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Grind those caits

iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/octopath-traveler-cotc/id1597675715
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.android_googleplay.octopathw&hl=en_US&gl=US

Useful stuff
Jp wiki: https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp
character info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oAKR3NWK8vb7BDQd0Insjm2JJo_hfmx8I4rOl9-7sPI/edit#gid=1878827387
recruitable npcs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vwcnklKUmigyJzPcaClQatFQkiwVJz-ypbf2MVYrSHA/edit#gid=0
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>OP isn't Tressa
total failure on the OP a shame a shame
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Step up is back
I got my 3rd scarecrow from it
wow
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>news implies they're only looking to compensate people who did the 5th step
that's definitely a sour taste

>>939713
i really wish i didn't see whatever this is because going in blind for the big reveal during a boss fight is a big part of the experience
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>>939749
>news implies they're only looking to compensate people who did the 5th step
Fuck fuck fuck I will rage. That's a tremendous coup for f2p in such a stingy game. Why didn't I blow all my rubies on it?
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>>939749
Lame, had enough for the last step but the banner went into maint. Back to rerolling.
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>>939749
rip
they're technically correct compensation-wise but it's a really sour taste

>>939759
because the compensation may not be worth it? i'd just assume i'd get milliard or gilderoy and move on desu
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>>939713
>Game has crossed over with other SE games
>Game has crossed over with another 2DHD game
What are the odds my boy get is? If any devs are reading this know I would whale like crazy if he does.
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Copium, but I hope they do a general compensation for everyone plus some extra for those that actually went to step 5.
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>>939778
Would be absolutely amazing. They just got Triangle Strategy in JP, so it's definitely a possibility.
>>939789
That's pretty standard, I've seen it happen in other games. Not getting my hopes up though.
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I'd be a lot more invested in this game if it had a native PC port and didn't have to deal with a text-heavy JRPG and these long boss battles on a tiny-ass mobile screen.
I don't know why these devs still refuse to do it. I ended up playing a lot more of Mobius FF than I would because it had a steam client for both versions.
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>88 Rubies as a reward for 1,000,000 downloads
Suddenly I don’t feel too good about compensation…
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>>939817
You will eat your 3 Nuts (S) and like it (3 Nuts (M) if you pulled step 5) and like it.
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Post em. Had to bench Peredir(3.4*) since the fuck hit cap(Lv40)

Did 4-5 multis total & bought the guaranteed 5* bundle. $35 in so far and probably won't spend any more, gonna save for either 2B or Agnès
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>>939817
why are they so stingy i never understand this shit
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>>939821
I'm taking the long route here by waiting in hunts for the uncap. Luckily, I pulled a 4* Cedric from the 8th day seal so that's 1 less unit to wait for. Haven't pulled outside of the 300 launch celebration rubies and the seals since those don't count towards a spark anyways, also saving for Agnés.
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>>939817
god why are they so fucking stingy
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>>939821
Did the 5 steps but hadnt pulled before that. Now lets wait for that compenation.
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>>939817
it's so bad compared to every single other game out there you'd almost think they're doing it as a joke
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Why can't I watch the ads since reset
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>>939837
Makes me curious if as usual 4chan is the only sane place and reddit/social media are eating it up without complaint, or if everyone else is pissed at it too.
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>>939860
Twitter seems happy.
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oh I get it 88 rubies because 8 because its OCTOpath haha such a funny ittle joke they incorporated into the milestone reward and not at all shitty
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>>939875
i have no idea why anyone would use twitter other than to stalk artists
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>>939879
Should have given 88888888 rubies if they want to fit the theme so much
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>>939896
A more realistic thing they could've done is give 88 daily pulls. 1 pull per day for the first 8 days and 10 pulls per day for the rest. A lot of gachas do this, and they can simply dump the free pulls on a trash banner if they're so worried about profits.
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How much do I have to wait for Tressa?
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>>939905
You should be able to reroll for her right now; she's the launch banner.
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>>939905
she was the first banner and there's still a week left on it
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>>939821
probably will have to bench the 3.4*s as well even if I like them
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I would have preferred even just one travellers seal over 88 gems
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>>939934
You would rather have gotten 1 roll instead of 3?
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>>939936
how is 88 gems 3 rolls? its not even one, at least with a seal you get one roll
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>>939938
what are you on about
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>>939938
You move to the "guide" tab in the bottom menu bar and go to a banner that does not use paid gems and you do almost 3 rolls by pressing the 30 gem button.
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>>939938
Anon?
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power and greed done. just fame now
once I unlock hunts are there more story chapters or just fights? these unskippable cutscenes drag on a bit
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>>939981
It goes up until Master of All Chapter 8 and the prologue of the Bestower series.
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At what time does the game do the daily reset?
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>>939991
In 52 minutes.
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>>939992
Thanks bro.
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>>939882
because I'm one of those artists
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did someone get to work this shit on a emulator?
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>>940080
>Millard (0.2%), 4.5* Fiore (0.2%), 4.5* Sofia (0.2%) in the first tenroll
luckgod........
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>>939821
I just wanted fucking Shelby to round out the team.
Spent $90 but that was just to buy all the New Adventurer packs so technically only used $30 for now. Also gonna wait for Agnes (but not too surprised if Global SE's hate boner for anything Bravely related crops up again)
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Do you pull the current step up if you have Sofia 5 star already? Dunno how good it would be to get a dupe, which could obviously happen.
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>>940183
I did, then I greeded for a 4* or higher sword user and went all in
I regret everything, no rubies, no nothing Guarantee 5* was the spear user, but I already had tressa
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>>940183
Just save unless you plan on whaling hard. Even the first step is so so because of bad rates leaving you with a high chance of getting fuck all, despite the 50% off.
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Wait this is neither Sofia nor Fiore... fuck this game
>>940183
Don't do it
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finally got the feather
i was not ready for the boss
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>>940220
>>940191
>>940185
Okay. I save my pretty much exactly 1200 gems. Aside of my initial 10 pull and 3 seals I didn't pull yet.
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>>940267
If you're lacking on 4*s you can try your luck at the first and maybe even second step, but be prepared for the most likely outcome, getting nothing.
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>>940290
I'm not even far enough to care about that. I think I have 2 5, 2 4 and the rest is 3. One I think can be upgraded to 4, but that'd cost a fortune I doubt I will ever have. (like 21000 bronze thingies for the exchange shop)
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>>940037
The game has a shitty anti emulator check. If you disconnect your internet, launch game, then reconnect when an error pops up, you can bypass the check.
MumuX, Bluestacks N64, LDPlayer9 all work fine.
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wonder whats gonna happen with the step thing im on 5 but i cant roll again
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I'm angry. Not only do none of my devices have the ability to run CotC, but apparently the Global server cheaped out on an English dub.
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>>940377
it also checks for root even though none of my apps would normally be able to detect it this one does somehow unless I disable the internet like you said. I wonder what it's actually checking for it seems way too good just for this shitty game
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Any guides for nameless town?
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>>940711
kill the monsters and get their items everyday, give the quest items when asked for it
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>>939912
>>939913
Thank you for telling me. I'm changing my phone tomorrow so I will try to reroll for her when I have it.
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how do percentages work in this game? I tried recruiting some guy with fame and had 75% of success yet I failed 2 times in a row there's no way I'm that unlucky r-right?
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>>940884
>he hasn't failed 90% chance 5 times in a row
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>>940748
You're welcome, good luck!
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How do I grind efficently in (what I’m assuming based off my current levels and the cap) the midgame? I just pulled up into Sunshade and the gap in levels between my party and the generic enemies is getting noticeable.
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>>940892
yeah I ended up failing 75% chance 5 times in a row kek. let me guess I'm a retard and don't understand probabilities? Never had a problem like this with any other game
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>>940964
Either you play it comfy and get the daily XP Nuts from town + 3x Caits from ads (which scale to your team's levels) + Hunts + maybe some extra XP on the side if you're doing some light grinding
Or you no life grind like one of those autists who have lvl 60-70+ teams already and are seething about how their 4*/4.5* characters are level capped and don't have a full roster of 8x 5* characters
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>>940239
>quest chain is literal walk in the park
>boss have silence, sleep, sp drain, lifesteal, counterattacks, and changes weaknesses post-break
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9nIj1zUVkM
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>>941057
>tfw I have to actually try and can't spam max boost hired help with Tressa anymore
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>>941006
>3x Caits from ads (which scale to your team's levels)
I don't think so. I think it's entirely random what you get. I thought at first it's level based, but I got 3 small ones yesterday and my level isn't lower than the day before, where I got 2 mid and 1 small.

It's most likely just completely random. Maybe your level decides the best you can get, but I dunno.
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>>941102
Make sure to reroll your Ad caits for that daily 150k exp
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>>941105
how?
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>>941107
Close app if its the wrong cait.
Until you reach lvl 51 the highest cait you can get is the lvl 35 one.
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I have 0 rubies
Give it to me straight, what are my odds of getting all of the collab characters? Should I just reroll?
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>>941126
no matter how many times you reroll you are at the mercy of chance, just take things as they come at this point
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>>940990
>let me guess I'm a retard
Correct. There's also plenty of games with rigged probabilities in your favour and a hidden pity limit.
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Well, that theatre autist story was great. Also mikhail's play memoir was a bit sad
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>>941138
In terms of the story I rank them Fame>Wealth>Power
Power felt pretty bare compared to the other two
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>>941126
I have a feeling with how stingy with pulls they are, even someone like me who has only spent 300 rubies will be fucked out of getting the collab characters.
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>>941140
Only cleared ch1 of each, but power just looks like it has the weakest villain. Kinda boring guy to be honest.
My favorite is wealth, because the villain's voice acting carries it so damn hard. As someone who appreciates good voice acting, it's really nice.
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>>941144
Depends on how we'll get colab chars. If they are normal banner shit with 200 pulls to spark, yeah. Of course. If it's a 1200 gem step up banner? Maybe it's fine. I have 1200 now after a week, and while I'm sure it's gonna go down, there can't be that much you'd want, right?
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I don't know whether to cut my losses and give up the step up to save gems or to keep going since i've spent a bunch of gems already
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>unlocked hunts just after reset
fuck
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>>941138
>well, that theatre autist story was great
>great
MABERUS!
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What happens to the character specific memory fragments if you don't use them before time limit?
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>>941348
His animations are very detailed. Especially that fists he make everytime after "marvelous!"
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How's everyone enjoying the game now that its been out for a while? What would you like changed/improved?
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>>941402
Its good but I need more rubies
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>>941402
Like it but they need to fix the menu lag
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>>941402
It's a fun game, it just feels more like a game that should have been sould as full price with no microtransactions instead of what we got.

As for improvementes, an auto battle that you either program your team to do whatever or that just do normal attacks/boosts and maybe healing would be great for when you just want to mindlessly grind and their gem output is laughable, even more.
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I just hope that the stories will be clearable by latelets who show up a year later, with just any random team of 8.
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Compensation bros, we'll get a fortune box that randomly gives either Fiore or Sofia during the next maintenance.
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>>941402
I like it. Satisfies my itch for a jrpg on mobile.
They need to turn down the encounter rates and implement auto battles after you clear an area. Also need more rubies
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>>941413
Really? Fuck, I should have saved my gems instead of spending them all on tressa's banner uselessly
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is there any other way to get travelers than spending gems?
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>>941402
Basically Octopath Traveler but in a Another Eden skin, I like it so far. My only gripe is that the game is a test of patience if you want to get enough for a pity.
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>>941418
Beating hard quests where you need 5*s with good gear to have a chance, or whenever a miracle happens and Square decides to give out free summons.
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>>941413
where did they say that?
because i'll be livid if so, i specifically avoided doing that step up because i saw the rates didn't guarantee either, but would have wanted them otherwise
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>>941413
I did my rolls after, if I don't get the box I will fucking uninstall.
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>>941402
I love it.
I love that it doesn't have stamina system the most.
I hate how stingy the game is with rolls, awakening, limit breaking even leveling.
I miss some stuff from the original game, lots more interaction with NPCs, more exploration, 2nd jobs, less reliance on multi hits.
As for improvements, basically >>941409
I would also love an NPC list that shows who I haven't talked to, the influence requirements, what items they offer I haven't gotten, maybe timer if they restock, what ally skills they have, being able to click and auto walk to them, etc
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Just so you all know, compensation is only for those who rolled on step 5 before the banner was fixed
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Another pull. Another Scarecrow. I think my game only has him in the 5* pool. He would be at 4 awakening if it was in game.
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>>941440
>>941456
Check the news, only those who pulled before they changed banner infomation will get it.
It's not that fair for the people who were saving rubies for the final step, but that aint me.
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How do you sell nameless town items to get memory shards? I just see how to buy them.
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>>941543
oh they updated that same news post, there wasn't a notification so i didn't check it
yeah that's some fucking bullshit
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>>941543
It is fair for them, because now on the 5th step they're getting what they were supposed to get.
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I don't really care, but why? He was a guy in jp
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>>941570
Sort of, there's the people who started pulling with whatever rubies they had since it mentioned a guaranteed featured 5* and were saving to finish, it but it turns out the step up had a different reward so they might have not even done a single step.
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>>941552
other

second table
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>>941543
Nice. I did the final step specifically for Fiore/Sophia, so not getting either sucked.
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>>941575
In both cases no value was lost unless you were specifically trying to get the compensation
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>>941582
Maybe I have to progress more for that to unlock. Thanks.
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Endgamebro here, I finished the main story of the current version yesterday. Excited for the next chapters since it got pretty interesting at the end. The final boss was incredible, you're gonna love the music. Also AMA
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>>941700
How much did you grind and where
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>>941700
How much money did you spend.
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>>941700
How many hours on caits?
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>>941700
menno hard carry
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>>941402
I am loving the game itself, just like I did in the CBT. However, the gacha is possible the worst I've ever seen across dozens of these games. The devs are the stingiest ever, 200 pity rate in 2022 is insane and the rates are utter shit. The daily ten rubies that are accompanied with a "don't spend them all in one place" is the most blatant slap in the face I've ever seen from a gacha dev, made even worse by the Day 10 thirty ruby gift coming with a message saying that for a special occasion they're being "extra generous". It's hostile to f2p and whales alike.
But if I can still do everything with my shitty random team and not having to rely on having to pull the latest meta unit, then this will be one of my favourite mobage despite the terrible gacha.
>>939821
Here's my squad. I didn't reroll and I've only spent 300 rubies on one pull on Tressa's banner. My seals got me nothing but 3* garbage and 3* dupes. Saving for collabs or maybe some super duper character that dramatically changes what sort of content people can clear, if such a polarizing meta character even exits.
I am an incredible slowpoke and have only just reached the last chapter 2 of the starting story. Pretty sure everyone is moving way faster than me and it feels bad still not having access to hunts or those nuts you guys are talking about; maybe I'll finally get there next week.

Unrelated, but I didn't wanna make an extra post. This vid is pretty cool in that it explains the somewhat cryptic road map in great detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rypWbUoCwns&ab_channel=ShizukatzCotC
It looks like we're getting a ton of content at a good pace on top of the insane amount of content global already had at launch, nice.
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>>941702
Only real grinding I did was in the level 60 areas to farm Cait spawns, I liked being slightly underleveled
>>941703
30 bucks for the guaranteed 5 star banner
>>941735
Way too many to count I fucking hate those things
>>941772
Menno plus wind spam is fun af
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do you think there will be opportunity to get awakening mats for limited characters like Tressa in the future?
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>>941782
Tressa is technically not limited since she'll be added to the regular pool eventually and she will have normal reruns
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>>941781
Damn, you only bought one ten pull and have 11 of the 5* characters? I'm assuming you can only get those awakenings from dupes, yeah?
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>>941700
how is your rank so high? i finished the 3rd arc prologues, assuming that's where the story current ends
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How do you unolock higher level hunts?
I'm stuck on 25 for 3 or 4 days since unlocking them
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>>941828
progress main story
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>>941824
Yeah dupes only. I got SUPREMELY lucky and it was Allah's power who bestowed these pulls unto me
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>>941827
I level all my shitty 3 and 4 star guys to around level 23 so I can get the influence panels on their skill boards. It's free influence and great for hunts to get more rewards
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>>941831
Incredible! Must be nice to be lucky...
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>>941827
Get your 3*s to 45
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So what banners should I keep an eye out for? Heard something about nier collab but no clue when that will happen. Anything good prior?
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>>941860
The first big one I've heard of is Cyrus, but global banner order is different so who knows? I'mma keep holding and waiting to see something that JP bros are talking up.
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>>941860
I have no idea about banner orders, but try checking out the jp tier list to have a general idea of who's good and who's not.
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I beat one of the level 85 NPC superbosses. Got a really strong spear, an item that I think has some kind of quest value, 100 rubies(!) and 100 points in every influence.
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>>941942
Holy shit, where is this boss?
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Hey lads! No idea that /Vmg/ was an thing. I feel like I have been extremely fucking lucky with my pulls. This is my current comp as of now. I only bought 100 gems in order to do the last pull on the Step up banner before it goes away since I doubt that I would had made it in time otherwise. Also what is that about compensation?

I must admit I am really enjoying this game so far! Super refreshing not being gated at all for once. The only downside is the absolutely insane pricing of Square and how fucking stingy they are overall. I don't expect to spend any more on this game at all..
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>>941976
Wow, that really is a lucky account!
And as for compensation, you'll only get it if you pulled on step 5 yesterday before they did the maintenance on it. If you did, you'll get a free (random) Sophia or Fiore.
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Has there ever in history been a gacha that became more generous with its freebies after enough people complained?
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>>942080
Granblue gave a free ticket for any SSR limited after their fuck up last year.
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>>942080
a lot of them yeah, once they lose all of those players and revenue so they start giving more handouts to try and get them back
but this is square enix so
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>>942063
Ah fuck me. I did the Last pull about 6 hours ago. Central European time zone if that matters?

Anyways I pulled two Sophias and one Theo/Millard on it so that's pretty neato. A shame I don't get to pick up an Free Fiore, that would have been the perfect situation. Hopefully I still get compensated at the very least I will be crossing my fingers
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>>942084
Yeah, sqex is pretty shite when it comes to being generous to people, even over time and under fire from complaints. Doesn't help that even if they fuck the playerbase up the ass blatantly, 99% of the people in all the social media places that they actually look at (ie not here) will be fine with it and even celebrate it.
>>942089
>I did the Last pull about 6 hours ago.
Yeah, you're fucked, sorry m8. At least you have a totally stacked account.
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I noticed that after completing Chapter 2 of Master of Wealth, I noticed that Taviani's 2 men disappear from his place in Valore. They're both NPCs that you can you can use path actions on to get stuff, and I'm glad I cleaned them out because I'm assuming they are gone forever.
Are there any other NPCs like this that I should get all items from before they vanish after the main story progresses? For example, do the Scarlet Wings all leave after I finish Master of Power (just beat Chapter 2)?
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>>941362
Anyone?
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really make me look forward to "octpath day" 8/8
we'll probably get 8 s experience nuts and 8 rubies
wow
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>>942179
>they give us guidestones for each of the octuplets, once a day
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>>942197
Billy is my thief and Telly is my cleric, so I'd actually take that over 88 rubies.
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>>942179
8 Travellers Crests
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>>941948
One of them is in Rippletide and another is in the Theatropolis library
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sometimes the game lags so bad
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>>942146
Some become unavailable for a while during master of all ch 7&8
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>>942205
Nah, that would actually be good
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>>942384
Can't have enogh 3 star units, eh.
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Welp, reached a roadblock in Master of All 5.
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Did fat caits get removed from the ad pool under lv60? I had three in under 10min yesterday and now ive been rolling for maybe 2hrs+ while watching shit and haven't had a single one show up... only cultured and coy cultured. 5% my ass
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>>941140
ending of Power makes me angry
Velnorte is more incompetent than even the most wimpy anime protagonist
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>>942429
Glad to hear that I am not the only one that really disliked him. The other paths had way more decent characters.
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>>939713
Is there any benefit to the 10x summon vs single summon in this game?
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>>942474
not normally but step banners exist so its cheaper there
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Does the auto hunt thing also get the items from the respawned chests?
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>>942505
Yes. It's as if you had actually cleared everything.
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>>942514
Oh, thanks
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>>942505
The only thing it doesn't do is count for achievements, so it might still be worth doing each stage manually a couple times
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Is there any benefit for saving for a tenfold instead of doing single pulls? I see there’s separate pull rates for single and tenfolds on the Fiore/Sofia banner but unless I misread something they’re identical to each other.
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do i need dupes in this game? my free 5 star was lynette and i did step one and two and got a 5 star of the sword and the 4 star version of the ice mage
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>>942671
you dont need them but the first two are nice 30% stats and another spell slot if i remember correctly
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>>942674
so i should continue the step up?
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>>942671
The only character that wants a dupe is Lynette and any dupe of hers should be kept for later when we get special skills. Other than that dupes are nice to have but I wouldn't pull for them.
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>>942687
nah 2 steps are fine to stop at
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>>942695
>any dupe of hers should be kept for later when we get special skills

You mean awakening mats can be used for something other than awakening later on?
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>>942713
Everyone gets a limit burst move later, leveling it from 9 to 10 needs one. for most characters you won't care to make that level, but lynette's is substantial.
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>>942356
I'm still a million miles away from that, just finished all the chapter 2s of the first three stories. Tonight I'll finally try and kill Herminia. Hopefully this means I'll be able to deal with all those NPCs before then.
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Fug, speaking of dupes. Just realized unless I can get 5 copies of a collab character I'll never get their super special piece of equipment. Guess I'll just resign myself to believing that's whale territory and effectively paywalled. I really hope one day they add a way to get awakening stones, even if it's grindy.
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It's amazing how Square can fuck up an otherwise great game just using one simple trick
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>>942904
They didn't fuck anything up though?
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Wow the power story is Garbaggio. Best Design for the villain and pants on head retarded story from start to finish. The other two were decent/good.
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>>942927
>garbaggio
GARBELLO
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>>942936
>have a typo on one of 7 pages with banner info
>fix the typo but still give out compensation to those who pulled anyway
>'THEY RUINED THE GAME"
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>>942941
Not him but what was the issue exactly? Something on the step up?
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>>942944
One of the pages said the guaranteed 5* was a featured traveler, every other page, and the visible % rates, said the guaranteed 5* was any traveler.
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>>942927
Somehow it just fucking reminds of nothing else but Lelocuh screaming Nunnally!!!?!

And him letting himself die at the end was so fucking stupid
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>>942725
Weird choice to make us use dupes for that when they're so scarce and you can't even replace dupes with something farmable.
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>>942941
I'm guessing he means the shitty monetization and shitty free gem distribution alongside low rates. Because these are pretty big flaws on an otherwise good game.
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>Lynette's tale
>artistic fucker in violet cape appears
>"MARVELLOUS!1"
>oh shit here we go again
Ngl, I'd be surprised if the next psychopathic performer turns out to be a nice person.
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Just started and rolled three times on the step up, this a decent start?
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>>943129
yea thats really good
lots want viola lynette also theo can heal and he generates bp so hes a bit underestimated
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>>942514
I'm pretty sure this isn't true, I believe the game acts like you went straight for the boss so you miss out on some rewards but you get the most important ones at least
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I got two question. Does the Yes/No options in the story make any difference at all? Like if they ask you to Help out and you say no does that affect anything at all? Pretty curious desu.

The second one would be if anyone know where to find all the people for your own town? I am in the Dessert currently and I only found the Artist the Nut girl and that one dude in the Low level snow area.
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>>943071
If I remember OT right the Impresario is nice, he's part of the Kit questline and gives him some tips about his dad. Many of these NPCs are like that, I swear Rinyuu or Phina is in a church or something and Bargello or someone from Wealth is encountered by Alfyn or Ophelia. I just can't be bothered to look them all up or replay the game.
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How important is weapon grade? Is there a way to increase it?
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>>943191
>Yes/No
It doesn't matter at all. I think it changes the dialogue a bit, but you ultimately go down the same path.
>Nameless town
The side quests will always lead you to the new people, if they don't, then that just means there aren't any for you to meet. Since you already found all those, the quests will lead you to upgrade the nut farm. Go do that.
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>finally roll two 5*s
>game has so many unskippable cutscenes I barely get to use them
Why would they do this...
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>>943312
I made it past like 11 chapters before I just couldn't take the cutscenes anymore. Shame
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>>942941
You know this actually fucked the game, and if I had paid money, I'd be mad. Even though I generally only pay money for what I already enjoyed. (which is also why I didn't pay yet mind you)

Why? Because compensation has to be given to all or nobody. Simple rule of gacha and mmo. People who pulled that step up get away with an additional free 5 star. People that didn't get nothing. In other words they are at -1 5 stars.
What they SHOULD do is give everyone else a box with a completely random 5 star.

But that's square enix. Took them 1 week to fuck up the balance of this game already. Not surprised mind you. Reminder to not spend money on this shit though.
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>>943475
>fuck up the balance of this game
>a single player rpg
Lol. But yeah they should be less miserly
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>>942904
Game is nearly flawless. So far they only fucked up on a handful of things but nothing too major like the banner which is being dealt with. I'm loving the game
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>>943475
Nice blog. Make a less retarded argument if you want people to take your bullshit seriously. You should know that no one believes the whole "I would pay, but" statement, but on the odd chance that you aren't just seething I would like to remind you not to do your ads because that is just giving Square free money.
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i don't understand hunts.
should I be doing this now or do I hog the order forms? should i try with 300 influence power team? it will be filled with shitters probably though.
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>>943475
>People who pulled that step up get away with an additional free 5 star. People that didn't get nothing.
I was neutral on the whole compensation thing, but this is one of the dumbest takes on the situation. You are actually mad that people who were genuinely mislead are getting what they spent for. I'll bite, name a couple of gacha games where the developers game out the max rarity SSR to the entire playerbase over a text error in a benner.
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>>943575
You may as well start now because it is free experience and nuts. The first time through a hunt you should go in with your main/best team since you actually have to do the encounters and pick up the chests. Afterwards just fill a team with max influence of the type and easy run the hunt to get the three drops.
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>>943579
thanks
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>>943576
>people who were genuinely mislead are getting what they spent for
lmao a bunch of people on discord knew about the text error and deliberately fished for compensation
a lot of people already mentioned this but they should just make the banner guarantee fiore/sofia or just give them to whoever rolled step 5 even after the "fix"
that completely eliminates ambiguous intents and what ifs/would haves and treat everyone fairly
plus, it's only fiore/sofia standard shit anyway
they're not top tier or anything
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>>943595
SE fucked up; sure, few were affected but would it kill them to give everyone the compensation for their mishandling? As you've said, they're not even that great. It would have shown good will and that's quite important in forming player trust. They could've used this issue to (slightly) improve their reputation, instead, they gave only those directly affected the compensation, ignoring those that could've been indirectly affected. It just isn't a good look. Watch as I somehow get called entitled.
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they really like theater at SE, both Primrose's story and Master of Fame seem to have the most effort put into them
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>>943576
It's fine to get what you are supposed to get. But they also got an additional random 5 star. That is what they shouldn't get if they get one of the two banner chars guaranteed.
And that's my point. If they get their banner promise or whatever, while keeping the wrong 5 star, this wrong 5 star should be distributed to the other people as well.

Pretty sure everyone would happily pull that step up if they'd get a guaranteed banner 5 star and a guaranteed random 5 star on top.
The solution they took actually gives a small amount of players an unnecessary advantage, while it says fuck you to the others.
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>see banner
>check the rates to make sure because I'm paranoid like that
>see features units aren't guaranteed on the final step
>don't pull
>get punished for not being an idiot
Super fair guys
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>>943700
The only reason I pulled on that Banner was for a chance at getting Fiore. Made it till step 4 and then I had to farm Rubies in order to get the last step. So I missed the compensation and it honestly leaves a really shitty taste in my mouth.

I really think that the everyone gets compensation or nobody does is the way to go. And it's not like it would cost square anything at all. Their prices are already way way above the average Gacha game
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>>943704
Fuck off already, you decided not to roll so you don't deserve compensation
For fucks sake, this is a company and they need to make money too
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>>943709
Are you fucking kidding me? You do realize we are talking about square right?
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>>943711
Stop begging for compensation poorfag
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>>943714
They should simply give compensation to everyone that did step 5 of the Banner. Building Goodwill is always a good thing.

And calling people Poorfags in order to defend Square-Enix has got to be the most pathetic cope. We are talking 30-dollars for a 10-pull if you buy rubies. That's fucking half the price on an Triple A title.
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>>943716
Did you roll on the step 5 that was falsely labeled? You will get your compensation
You didn't roll? Then you don't deserve compensation
>muh good will
Its a company, they need to make money somehow
So yeah, you are a beggar and a poorfag lmao
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>>943709
What if he wanted one of the rate-up characters that were mistakenly not on rate-up? Isn't this person indirectly affected by the error? I'd say that they are, which makes sense to compensate everyone as it's impossible to know who this snafu indirectly affected.
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...Is this thread being astroturfed?
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>>943717
Yo, hold up fucker, at least try. If you're gonna be consistent, you're gonna need to argue that no compensation should be given out because it's the player's fault for not reading banner details? Why should SE starve just because its retarded fanbase can't fucking read? SE shouldn't coddle players like this...
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>>943722
Don't think so. It just seems to be an Semen-slurper that would make even Nintendo shills jealous when marveling at his skills in slurping down gallon after gallon
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the difficulty jump from master of all chapter 7 to 8 is insane, a lot worse than chapter 4 to 5.
this is going to take a while.

also alternate job (swimsuit) is treated as a new character you need to pull.
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>>943739
Are you sure Sophia is an ice mage? Because looking at her right now makes me SO FUCKING SWEATY.
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>>943755
her alternate job is wind apothecary.
note that you can't use both sofia at the same time, so if you're planning to ever pull/use an alt version of a character you may not want to heavily invest on the normal one as it will be useless.
that said it's still a long way to go for the en version and depending on community reception about how they're handling this alt job thing (currently seems mixed to negative) they could change a thing or two.
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>>943739
We'll have her within a month.
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i already left my negative review on google play because i don't think they have any other place for feedback, but all this shilling on fucking 4chan of all places is only solidfying my anger

>>943739
i find it hilarious to see an otherwise nice swimsuit reduced to basically nothing in that sprite form, which is what you see the majority of the time
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>>943722
You're in a gacha general. There is always at least one sycophant for the company, whoever it is. Usually it's a coping whale trying to deal with putting money into the game.
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>>939713
>https://support.na.square-enix.com/contacttop.php?id=18710&la=1
found the place for official support/feedback
feedback doesn't get a response, so contacting support directly might be more influential, or do both
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>>943811
>>943772
>Someone disagrees with my opinion and I can't reasonably counter their points. They must be astroturfing or a company simp.
Some people just don't care about this faux outrage over such a small issue. There is a support menu for those that want to complain or you can see if you can get a direct answer on the stream tomorrow, but bitching about it here will do nothing but get you to fall for simple bait.
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>>943845
We're getting a stream?
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>>943845
Care to point me to some of the reasonable points? If you can't, care to create them? I'd be more than happy to address them, all of them. So far I've only seen ad hominem and extremely bad faith arguments from those defending SEs actions. Even yourself, you call this a "faux" outrage, as if you're the arbiter that gets to decide what is and isn't a "real" outrage. As far as I can tell, it's looking rather real.
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>>943845
You sound very angry. I didn't pull on the banner, but I think simping for SE - who run their gachas like shit - is fucking cringeworthy.
t. still playing Sinoalice
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>>943859
>t. still playing Sinoalice
my condolences
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>>943873
Thank you.
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>>943475
You don't pass go, you don't get $200.
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>>943575
You fight nothing but elites who are slightly easier than other elites at that level for exp and drops in that range. Once you clear it you can skip it with any team you want, so you should just bring in your main team the first time. If you meet influence thresholds then once you finish you get a bonus chest, those particular chests are where you get star up materials from, so being able to open more is more chances at one, you just have to take shitters you might not want shards for to meet the influence levels. So it's an exchange of getting shards for your main team to uncap or getting another chest to promote a unit. Additionally any elite in the map can be replaced with caits randomly when you run it manually, so if exp is your goal you might want to run it instead of skipping it. But overall it's the only source of shards and promotion items so its probably better to aim for those.
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what are some JP characters that are cool in terms of design
I usually roll for characters that look cool
so I wanna save up
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>>943739
I hope the negative feedback can force them to revert to the Another Eden style of alt units.
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man i got inot this game beta test, and got many 5* in the gacha, but the game was so shit i literally could not care kek
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>>942934
so wtf is Beowulf from FGO doing here
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Almost got enough for another 10 Pull and I sort of want to try my luck at Tressa. I did all pulls on the Step-up banner but didn't get fiore sadly. And I am not to keen of trying my luck on their joint banner
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>>943846
Tomorrow for 8/8 they announced a stream. It's a bit of a 50/50 on rather they will address the issue since SE has some games that are heavily involved with the community i.e. Romancing Saga, and Dissidia, or gachas they don't care about such as the Valkyrie and Kingdom Hearts ones.
>>943855
Here is a reasonable point. The players who reach step 5 and were actually effected are being compensated since those were the only people affected by the miswording. Yes, I believe this outrage is faux. The Playstore rating hasn't changed, there isn't any significant organized efforts to address this with Square, and one of the general opinions of this matter is that while it sucks many players are still enjoying and spending on the game. If this outrage was genuine where are the review bombs? Where are the dedicated post telling people how to contact Square? Why are there only two or three comments on the games official community pages about this? I've sent an email to Square asking that people who pulled before the banner maintenance should receive at least a partial refund but apart from that I'm not seeing anybody else actually doing this.
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Honestly I didn't expect to like this game this much. I pick up a gacha to pass some time and slog for an hour a day then drop it in a week, PGR was the latest one I did this on. That kusoge didn't even give me a single 5 star in a week of play, you have to play for like a month to get your first guaranteed 5 star.

This one has one charm, played it for several hours a day already.
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>>943947
Oh hello Nier-Collab tourist
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>>943939
Not the guys you're quoting but I'm still a little bit butthurt avout it. Not enough to rage quit or anything but here's why
I had 5star Fiore and 4star Sofia. I started pulling with the hopes of getting Sofia to 5star and if I got Fiore instead then that's cool she gets stronger from the awakening. Problem is I was only at step 4 when the issue came up in game since I'm taking it slow (which is almost encouraged by the devs) so no compensation for me. The guaranteed 5 star I got was Viola. So yeah I feel like I got fucked. And when I see how the currency is already drying up (10 rubies from influence level up instead of the 30 we got at the lower levels) it feels kind of bad
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>>943939
>I've sent an email to Square asking that people who pulled before the banner maintenance should receive at least a partial refund

Do you mean those who didn't finish step 5? I think at that point they're considering the reduced cost pulls to have already been the incentive if they weren't gonna finish.
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is there an issue with the step up?, I just managed to finish it off and didn't get any of the rate up girls unless I am mistaken on how they work
I got scarecrow on the last step so its not a complete loss
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>>943947
PGR literally gives you a ticket to pick a S unit just starting the game, you must be retarded
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>>943898
anyone?
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>>943932
It’s your choice of course, but unless your team is really lacking 5* units or you’re pulling for waifufag reasons, you should probably wait for Cyrus and Ophelia. Tressa isn’t all that great.
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>>943763
Considering Granblue has been happily getting away with it for like seven years now and is making unholy amounts of money selling swimsuit units, I would be incredibly surprised if SE changed anything.
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>>944000
I meant actually rolling one from the banners, not the starter shitters.
You can't even reroll in that game.
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I got two Fiora awakenings, just use them to upgrade her right?
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>>944085
Kinda banal question, looked it up myself. No reason to save them unless Lynette apparently.
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>>943898
Eventually the villains become summonable, they all have pretty good designs, everyone here probably wants Auguste
Also Cyrus and Olberics friend have good designs in my opinion
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>>943939
>The players ... effected are being compensated
That's the path SE went, yes. They don't care for those in-directly affected by their mistake; why? To show how stingy they really are? It's a terrible look.
>I believe this outrage is faux
I'll start by accepting everything you said as fact, given that I'm unaware of the ratings or any deals on social media. With that said, what does it take for an outrage to become greater than "faux"? Can a gacha game with a small active user-base even muster the numbers to meet your criteria? It's true that it would take fewer people to affect the Playstore score but I don't think an outrage needs to manifest in a negative comment and review bomb shitstorm for it to be real. Players are mad because of some perceived wrong-doing on the developer's part.
I realise that this isn't really an argument I can win given that the "small vocal minority" card can be played at anytime. You can never have a vocal majority in these things so it's always a Sisyphean task to try and argue for it.
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a massive deal, but it is something that negatively impacts my (and others') impression of the game. I don't need many (even small) incidents to get me to quit a stingy gacha game, especially not an SE one.
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Found the first fight I had to retreat from, a level 35 elite monster in Herminia's manse during Ch3 of Master of Fame. Just fed all the nuts I've saved since launch to bring a couple other weakness-hitting three stars to level 30, here's hoping I can kill the bugger. I know I should just come back later, but I like doing things as I reach them.
>>943939
Do you know what time that stream is? I don't see any mention of it on their official twitter or in the ingame news.
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>>944151
Protip, don't bother with the lv 35 bosses at that point, they don't guard any chests
Once you reach chapter 1 of Master of all you should've good enough gear to go back and try again
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so is there ANY connection to the original game?
would be cool if they expanded on stuff from the true route
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>>944184
it's a prequel, there's tons of recurring characters including NPCs, and lore/worldbuilding that was only alluded to in the original but is expanded upon here
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>>944173
Yeah, I'm starting to think it's hopeless right now. Got through a third of his health, then he killed Menno out of nowhere. At least I learned that Menno is awesome with an aoe heal/regen unlockable if I can raise them 2 more levels. No wonder they're on Endgamebro's team as the only non-five star. Might bench Telly, though the lil octuplet is my only source of ice damage on the squad.
Unrelated but
>finally hit Fame rank 8 so I can entreat the woman in the Nameless Town.
>fail the five 30% tries for her sturdy hide or whatever
>reputation in Nameless Town gone
>no tavern
I think I just fucked myself.
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>>944151
8pm
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>>944204
Jeez, I guess I'm not catching it then. Thanks for the info though.
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What should I exchange for the daily?
Also hitting max level for 3 stars feels bad
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>>944271
I just trade in some bronze shards for a bronze stone because dailies give bronze shards.

Just finished Master of Wealth and good God, this game is awesome. Why must it be chained to one of the worst gachas out there? I'd buy this as a Switch game, easy. One of my favourite things about rpgs is when you get to see your actions actually affect the world and it was awesome seeing Valore actually brighten after bringing peace to it. Guess I'll go face Tytos tomorrow. Some day, I shall unlock hunts.
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>>944271
You'll need to trade in sturdy shit for memory shards for nameless town stuff a lot, so you may as well do them after you've built the first few buildings. Once you're on the nut farm you need 450 shards worth of soil, and 90 shards for the nut garden manual. You only get 20 a day if you don't trade in sturdy materials, but can get 50 a day if you do.
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>>943947
>you have to play for like a month to get your first guaranteed 5 star.
I enjoyed this alot more than PGR but nigga just do the math how long until you can hit pity in octopath as f2p/small spender.
Sure some superbosses later gives nice ammount of gems but those are one time rewards after that you are looking at 5 months to pity one 5 star.
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>just finished Chapter 2 of Power
That was fucking dumb. I want to go back to Wealth, these characters suck.
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>>944321
i've got bad news about power 3
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>>944321
Part 1 power fumbled so that part 3 power can flourish
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>>944333
I just hope it doesn't get more dumb. Dumberer, if you will.
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>>944339
By part 1 I mean all of tytos, by part 3 I mean the parts that aren't in global yet.
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>>944343
Noted. I'll just grit my teeth and get through it. I've read Fame is fairly great so I'll look forward to that. Wealth was also pretty good (trying to do them in order).
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How does global's generosity (or lack thereof) compare to JP's?
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what is the fastest way of leveling up anyway?
besides the 3 ad cats
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>>944447
standard ruby income outside of events should be similar.
jp gave away not only agnes but her whole step up banner (5 x10 pulls) for free, but that's due to a relatively major mess up including rollbacks and a 20hr maintenance.

>>944453
hunts should be the second best.
other than that you'll need to farm random encounter caits.
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>>944458
correction, that was 2 step up rounds, so 10 x10 pulls.
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>>944458
god I cant wait for the bravely default Collab
how are the characters anyway? and when do you think it will take till GL gets it
all I know is Anges is the only unit in the game with revive(unless that changed)
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>>944286
Will we need other sturdy stuff? I haven't seen an option to trade for more shards where's that at?
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>>944514
All of the nameless town objects that you can farm never get used again for the quests. Any material that you get from the elite enemies to the right of the town and items the npcs restock are only useful to trade for more shards.
The trade option is under exchange - other
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how do you play on emu
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>>944607
see
>>940377
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>>944623
>>940377
has anyone gotten banned?
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>>943947
bro please give PGR another try
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which banner should i be reroolling on gros
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>>943739
>fights the first boss
>haha chapter 8 looks like a breeze
>final dungeon opens
>picrel
So i need to fight 3 elites then the final boss in one go what the fuck
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>>944690
None for now, just save brah. If you're rerolling, try the Fiore/Sophia step up 'cause you might be able to get 2 rolls instead of one as the first few steps are discounted.
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>>944798
You don't have to kill the elites before you fight the boss If you hate yourself. It is just strongly recommended that you do. You also want to kill all the non soldier elites since they dont respawn, and kill 100 regular soldiers because once you beat the chapter you won't have access to the dungeon for a long ass time.
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Newshitter please help with some questions. I just want a complimentary game to play since I already have some other things. Mostly it will be casual play and a waifu collector and aim to do as much pve content as I can. Don't care about meta or pvp, just want to use waifus I like. Octopath sprite art and music is kino so naturally I am interested in it.

1. How necessary is doing a reroll and getting a good account to start, and how much of an endeavor is it? (I'd mostly want at least 2-3 top tier waifus, but the more the better)
2. How generous or shit is the gacha? Is there a pity? Is there a fair amount of f2p pull resources that I can realistically get any waifu I want down the line as long as I'm not trying to pull for everything?
3. How much of a time investment is it once I get into 'maintenance mode'? How much would I be expected to have to play each day to keep up with rewards and not miss anything important?
4. Is it fun?

Thanks and here is a cute Ophelia.
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>>944558
Holy shit thank you! I got 238 shards off it!
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>>944871
1. You want at least a full team of 4*s so you don't get stuck later on due to level caps. 3.5* won't cut it, unless you're willing to wait around for a RNG + time gated resource. (Sacred Seals from Hunts). Rerolling itself is easy because you can delete your save data from the title screen, removing the need to redownload everything.
2. Game is kinda stingy. The game decreases the amount of rubies you get from leveling up your influences later on (from 30 per level to 10). There is pity, 200 pulls (have fun saving up for that though). You definitely "can" get anything you want if you win the 50/50 in step up banners.
3. Pretty short. I can do all my dailies in 20 minutes tops now. Your daily routine consists of auto sweeping hunts, killing elites, watching ads.
4. Very much so. I like the break system, it's very satisfying to set up all buffs/debuffs, break the boss and watch big numbers fly around.
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>>944880
>if you win the 50/50 step up banner
only if SE remembers to actually code it in
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>>944871
1. Not necessary but recommended. Takes about 4 minutes per reroll depending on the setup.
2. The gacha is shit. In total max rarity characters have a 4% rate separated by a 5* version and a 4.5* version. Pity is at 200 pulls for normal banners and 100 pulls for collabs, and limited banners get a increased of 6%. Pull recourses dies down after a while but if you save you should be able to pull for what you want.
3. At endgame maybe like 5-6 minutes a day for the dailies. You can't miss content because all the content added to the game is permanent with the exception of collabs.
4. Thats up to you. I'm 100+ hours in and still having a blast.
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>>944891
>>944880
Cheers I'll check it out.
Is the reroll process pretty comfy on phone or is it really the kinda thing I should set up on an emulator and macro and then transfer acct to phone after?
I'm too brainlet to into macroing on phone
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>>944871
Question. Are you fine with Visual Novel tier gameplay?
Early on you spend more time reading than actually playing. It's all fully voiced and the plots vary from actually decent to just boring and slow
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>>944901
You can reroll just fine on a phone, I did it on my phone myself.
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>>944901
The reroll itself is fast and simple. Launch game, go through a cutscene, roll. If it's shit you return to title, press options, delete data. Try again.
Emulators only help if you run two or three at once otherwise just stick to mobile.
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>>944901
the very first intro summon is randomized from one of eight 5*s, you can immediately back out and go to the options on the title screen and delete your account and restart within 4 minutes
if you want to reroll on actual banners, it'll take you maybe 10 minutes, or more if you try to get a specific first character too
tressa and heathcote are currently on rateup, the rest are OCs that are also in the first guarantee, ophelia is some time away
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>>944908
>>944909
Thanks. I'mma try and get Tressa if she's rate up then and then as many other OC qts as I can.


>>944903
I played Octopath on switch and I love JRPGs.
I'm fine with reading and not playing as long as its something I can do on my own terms when I feel like and doesn't fuck me over or force me into doing it when I don't want to.
In other words as long as its
>I'm bored and feel sitting down for an hour or two and sitting through some story
and not
>I really gotta get this limited time event done before it goes away tomorrow, but I have to rush through 10 hours of story before the game will let me do it
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anyone else having server issues?
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>>944919
Last question as I'm now in the process of rerolling: how problematic is it to get someone from 4.5>5* down the line? if I get a character I'm happy with but only as 4.5* does it stand to reason I'll be able to 5* them at some point?
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>>945017
At least a month of weeklies per character.
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When do you get more hunt permits? I just unlocked them like five hours ago but I'm still at 1/7 after the daily reset.
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I still don't understand how this game has such bloated specs that it won't even download onto my year-old desktop with Bluestacks.
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>>945112
One per reset. Eventually they'll release Expert hunts with use another different kind of permit, basically letting you go on hunts twice a day.
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Holy kek.
Has the stream happened yet btw?
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>>945130
>bloated
It's actually one of the lighter gachas if you were talking about the data size
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>>945167
No idea. But I hope they Decide to compensate everyone that rolled on the Step-up Banner. It's not like they would loose anything doing it. But Square being Square I somehow doubt it. When it comes to being anti-consumer I would put them right next to EA/Ubisoft

The price of rolling if you are looking to buy gems is something quite special desu. Don't think I have ever seen the paid currency being that expensive. And the launch packages where quite a joke too.

The game itself is really nice tough.
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>>945236
nah they'll just close the case lol
the discord simp army is satisfied enough and they will defend their position as long as no one else gets what they've gotten
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>>945243
I honestly think it's pretty fucked. It's not like the poeple who didn't reach stage 5 was going to just stop at step 4. The only reason I rolled to begin with was that I thought one of them would be Guaranteed in the end. But I didn't make step 5 in time since I had to farm some more gems.

Still I got some really lucky pulls from the banner so that's great and all. But I still think it's fucked. And It honestly leaves a shitty taste in my mouth knowing that if I had enough gems to pull all the way I would be getting another free Unit
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>>945167
So are they going to give out 88 rubies everyday until the 15th? Or did I misinterpret the mail
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>>945255
8-18-28
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>You cannot impress Rosso.
>You cannot impress Rosso.
But I want to!
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>>945181
Data size isn't the problem. It's the performance specs that is the issue.
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>>943265
Where can you get the guides the nut farm girl asked for? I got the one from the exchange she needs to move in, got one with cont. in the name that's probably for later on, but I can't find the one she asks right after setting up the place.
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>>945281
It's working fine on standard quality on my shitty phone. Except for the infuriating lag in the out of game menus
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>>945291
Clearbrook.
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>>945297
Oh, so that's why I couldn't find it. I haven't unlocked this town yet, thanks.
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do character like tressa get added to permanent pool after the feature is gone or if you miss them you miss them?
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>>945338
https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/263474

Everyone with no notes under their score gets in the permanent pool, everyone else is limited.
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Will there be some spicy banner shuffling?
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Daily reset happened but my nameless monsters didnt.
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>>945571
Elites respawn after every 20h, they aren't tied to daily reset. Just wait all of them to respawn then kill them a bit after reset so they'll all be there by the time you're back to do the following day's daily.
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Should I awaken or limit break the 4* characters I like?
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>>945584
Thanks bro.
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String bikini Summer Viola when??
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The suffering from farming the caits for hours just for that final fight was worth it
Found out that ads cait also works as inn/torch full heals anywhere which makes the elites marathon very easy
>>942413
Rolling ads for caits is waste of time, you get lv 50/55 one much faster in the wilds since alluring charm exist
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>>945588
Yes. Atleast do the level 1 awakening
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>download on bluestacks
>gets to title screen
>sits on loading forever
>restart same thing
>just leave it maybe it is just loading
>make breakfast and eat it for 25 mins and its still on loading
wat do?
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>>945852
try ldplayer, it seems to work fine as long as you turn off the connection then turn it on again
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>octuplet story was cute
>got viola with the rubies
post em
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>>945294
Are you using a Galaxy A-series?
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>>945236
>Don't think I have ever seen the paid currency being that expensive. And the launch packages where quite a joke too.

Have you never looked at the cash shop in any game before? The 10 pull = $30 thing started with cygames
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>dream reroll
Viola, Lynette, Tressa, Sofia
>not perfect but I'd stop rerolling
Viola, Lynette, one of Tressa/Sofia

Is this setting the bar too high or is it bound to show up sooner or later? On about 30 reroll attempts (closer to 100 if you count the ones that died not getting viola/lynette during the intro)
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>>946016
It can happen, but as always, it's up to rng so just try until you're satifistied or too tired to go on. Do the first 2 step ups and if you get something close enough to what you want, save it to some account in case you give up on perfection later on.
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>>946016
i'd settle for two for the sake of sanity, but some people go for three
the step up might be easier to get lucky on with rerolls but no chance at tressa unfortunately
it is not uncommon to get other 4.5* as you play eventually but tressa isn't in the standard pool yet either
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>>946023
>>946032
Oh, right, forgot you want Tressa. Disregard what I said about the step ups, and it's gonna be way more unlikely to get all those.
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>>945846
My bad, should I first awaken them or use the stones to limit break them?
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Do we have any idea what the next banner will be or are they going random?
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>>946084
h'aanit came before tressa in JP iirc, so maybe we'll get her after tressa
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>tried rerolling all weekend since the step up + 88 rubies make for a more economical start than day 1 did
>a single run with 5* Viola + Lynette
>Rolled one account with Viola and 4 fucking Scarecrows
>Rolled another with 2 Lynettes and 5* Sophia, Fiore, Scarecrow and 4.5* Theo
>still have my day 1 account which is just 5* Viola and 4.5* Lynette cope; wasted everything on the step-up banner and got scarecrow again

I feel like I can reroll and get a god start to save rubies for a character I actually like since my main account got fucked by my greed/curiosity/bad luck. Do I just grind hunts and continue coping?
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Finally got a god reroll and can start playing this game for real. Have no clue how to party build, I just stuck all my 5 stars in a party and picked a random 4 star. Any tips?
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>>943739
>>945631
>try to hop on the waifu gachaslut train
>pixels
How do we compete?
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>>946119
jesus, how many rolls on this account?
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>>946127
Only did the 5 step ups so 50. Lynette has a dupe too that I'm saving.
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>>945631
Damn Fiore is fuckin' stacked
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>>946119
Please give me your luck so I can be free from reroll hell
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>>942179
We got 88 rubies
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Do we get stuff on the 8th 18th and 28th of every month or only this month?
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>>946214
Only this month to celebrate Octopath day.
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>>946023
>>946032
Praise the sun
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>>946247
fucking nice, congrats!
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>>945346
Good God that is a lot of limited characters for a game so stingy with its pulls. I heard a rumor someone calculated it would take 10 months of saving to pity a single 5* character. I doubt it'd take that much, they were probably basing their calculations on daily rubies alone, but it still feels like I won't be able to pity every other month like all the other games I play. Guess I should pick one favorite character off that list and just go all in on them. Maybe A2, I'm happy to see her still at the top of the list despite the NieR collab being a year+ ago.

Looks like /vmg/ was right about Octopath Day being 88 rubies and something related to the octuplets. Jeez, even Dragon Quest Tact, another similarly stingy SE gacha with horrible monitization, gave out a free 10 pull with a guaranteed limited 5* on Dragon Quest Day not too long after launch. Though if you add up the 88 rubies we're getting on the 18th and 28th along with the rubies from the octuplet memoirs, that's 298 rubies for a month long, once a year celebration. Almost a ten pull, that's very generous by this game's miserly standards.
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>>946119
>>946247
I am starting to think I made a horrible mistake keeping my initial 10 roll of Lynette+Tressa with tutorial Fiore. I don't feel I'm walled or anything, but these rerolls already have more than I will acquire with months of play.
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>>946278
Limited characters will usually get a step up, especially on reruns with some sort of big bonus on the 5th pull. Either a guarantee, an extra 150 of the gacha shop stones to pity one, or a buttload of gold shards for level uncapping.
You don't need every character, you just need a solid team.
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Heard there's a encounter rate reducing item, where is it found?
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>>946283
The guarantee or pity on step 5 sounds good, do step ups usually cost the same or do they vary?
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>>946281
ultimately luck can completely sway your account's standing regardless of starting roll, just enjoy what you have
i started with fiore+tressa only and have spent everything so far because i wanted more tressa, didn't get another but i have scarecrow, gilderoy, 4* theo and viola, and +1 fiore
i only use fiore/tressa/viola out of those anyways and most of my team/favorites are 3.5* otherwise. woulda been nice to have sofia but square enix said fuck you
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>>946288
Guy in the Emberglow tavern.
>>946278
Limited tend to have a higher rate up on reruns with the addition that all limited characters are in the pool on limited banners just without rate up.
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>>946281
I had to reroll for about 8 hours last night and another 6-7 today to get mine >>946247
I was actually kicking myself at a point today because early on I didn't keep a reroll that had (only) viola+lynette, since I hadn't seen the two of them together in 10+ hours of further rerolling. But it ultimately worked out.

I've played enough gacha games to know that you can more or less count on on all of these characters showing up in your pulls at some point in the future.
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>>946300
>all limited characters are in the pool on limited banners just without rate up.
Oh that's cool! Makes me feel better about the high number of limiteds they roll out for this game. I initially thought only collab characters would be limited and the others would get dumped into the general pool, but if limited banners also include all the other limiteds as offbanners, that's fine.
>>946306
>I've played enough gacha games to know that you can more or less count on on all of these characters showing up in your pulls at some point in the future.
Yeah, that's my cope. That and I didn't want to spend a week or more rerolling only to get a shitty start anyway, like I have in other games. Figured I was blessed with that pull and wanted to get right into playing the game. Speaking of playing, time to see what makes Master of Power Ch3 so bad that people keep complaining about it.
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>>944870
>You also want to kill all the non soldier elites since they dont respawn, and kill 100 regular soldiers because once you beat the chapter you won't have access to the dungeon for a long ass time.
This has got me thinking...are there any permanently missable enemies that have feats related to killing a bunch of them? As I just mentioned in the post above this one, I'm going through Chapter 3 of Master of Power and I just noticed I got a feat for killing Scarlet Wing Believers. I don't know if they will still be around after I kill Tytos though.
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Thinking about downloading this game tonight, where's the definitive noob guide?
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How bad are the rates in this game?
Is it possible to roll Tressa?
is this gacha at fault for killing FFRK global, and if so does this mean I can blame Tressa for it
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>>946330
Power is not that bad, Tytos is just disppointing compared to the other 2
Also the 2 main characters act like complete retards
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>>946349
Reroll for extra 5* or two on the step up. Rush to chapter 3 of fame, wealth, and power to unlock hunts, these boost your level cap. Always keep up with gear by farming pieces and bringing them to the smithy.
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>>946349
Not sure about definitive, but this jpbro makes good video guides: https://www.youtube.com/c/ShizukatzCotC/videos
And this seems to be the best English resource, has various guides and such in it: https://meowdb.com/db/octopath-traveler-cotc/
>>946350
Heh, I saw that post in /ffg/ too. Yes you can reroll for Tressa right now but her banner ends in 24 hours so you better hurry. After it ends, she will be moved to the general/permanent pool, but we don't know if that'll happen immediately, just that it will happen. Rates are pretty shite, Tressa's rate up gives her an 0.8% pull rate (additional 0.4% of getting her in a 4* version, remember early FFBE?). As for the spoiler, that guy was totally shitposting; this game isn't killing anything. I don't think it did nearly as well in JP as RK did and global doesn't stand much of a chance as it's not very good for f2p or for whales. F2p don't get very many pulls so anyone who's attracted to gacha for collecting characters is shit outta luck and because of the low rates and high pity, whales have to spend more to get less than they would in other games. However, if you do wanna play a really good single player HD-2D jrpg on mobile and don't give a fuck about gacha, this is the game for you.
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>>946358
Wow, that was a downer ending. I see what people were saying about Velnorte now, there was no reason for him to die like that after the fight even though it's what he wanted on some level.
And Tytos did fall flat compared to Herminia. He wasn't exactly bad, but not as devilishly evil as the other two have been so far. Though in phase 2 of the battle the scarlet wings of his true form were kino.
Gonna have a MARVELOUS time tomorrow finishing Master of Fame. I really, really love that Auguste's VA finds a different way to say his trademark phrase every single time.
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>burn starting gems
>literally nothing above 3*
What the actual shit is this gacha
I played fucking FFBE at launch and that game still was more generous than this
Is there an easy way to reroll or should I just stay away
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>>945939
Happy Octopath Day!
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>>946289
It can vary, some are more about the discount and some are more about the good shit at the end. For example the swimsuits in Japan are 200, 250, 300, 300, 300 for the 5 steps.
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>>946410
>I played fucking FFBE at launch and that game still was more generous than this

FFBE had 10 tickets you had to pull one at a time and 1500 gems, which is 3 more pulls. And a 1% rate. You also had to have a dummy account to reset the account. You weren't there
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>>946410
very easy, title screen -> options -> delete account
4 minutes if you reroll only the starter, 10 minutes if you reroll with banners
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>>946041
Awaken them
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>>945948
Yeah, 2017's A8
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>>946416
Keep in mind I am talking about the literal initial launch here, and not the whalebait it turned into down the line

That game had no actual 5* bases at launch. Hell, there wasn't even any 4* bases at launch. I had three units capable of hitting 5* rarity right off the bat, and prior knowledge that all three of those would get good 6* awakenings down the line to remain relevant (CoD, Exdeath, Bartz). Actually rolling a rainbow crystal for the first few months was nothing but saving on leveling and evolution materials.

This game is 18 pulls, 10 of which you can do multi and the other 8 of which are single pulls. There are 5* bases to chase, the rates are somehow worse than FFBE's launch, and it doesn't even have the core hook of "has characters from the biggest JRPG franchise in the world"

Now excuse me while I try to get Tressa out of nostalgia for Octopath Traveler the game
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>work my way up to the first dungeon
>all the random encounters are level 1s
>there's some level 15 elites
>looks like I might be able to kill them through attrition but it'd take around half an hour based on one break/boost cycle
>couple other level 11 elites
>they take a little while but are much more reasonable and I beat both I found
>get to the end boss, he's level 6 and a pushover
The tuning here seems a little strange. I assume I can go back and kill the other elites when its more convenient and they really are just optional bosses?
I only got my squad to about level 10-12 since I don't wanna overlevel and trivialize stuff but I also don't wanna get cockblocked by weird-level minibosses in the middle of dungeons.
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>>946458
And in FFBE the powercreep comes in so hard you can abandon your account entirely every 3 months and come out ahead. In Octopath some of the launch units are still among the best in the game and no, the rates aren't worse than FFBE did. It's 1% vs 4% and FFBE barely had any FF characters at launch donut steel was a huge meme in the mobage general and later ffbe one for years. You'll be ok bro, there's no neo vision traps in the future here
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>>946470
The lower level elites block chests that usually have decent gear upgrades for the level of dungeon they're in. The higher level "menacing" ones give feat achievements and drop stuff to sell on first kills.
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>>946471
Maybe I'm just getting stupendously unlucky then
I've done rerolls for about an hour now and I've seen two 4/4* units
I don't even want to think about trying to reroll after the initial launch bonuses go poof
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>>946470
Overleveling is not an issue here, you will be handicapped by access to gear. In fact always try to be higher by 5 or more levels than your enemy at the least.
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>>946479
This is the gacha Tressa deserves
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>>946474
Can I always come back to fight them whenever I get better level/gear and stuff?

>>946482
Good to know. I ran out of nuts anyways for now though
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First rolls using step up banner. Lynette was my free 5*, the other 3.5/4* travelers I got were:
4*: Trish, Rodion, Heinz, Bertrand, Mabel, Iris
3.5*: Sigrid, Merrit, Wingate, Peredir, Ramona, Ashlan
Should I reroll or is this pretty strong for my first rolls?
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>>946504
if youre rerolling you want multiple five stars
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>>945771
How do we get that?
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When's the damn stream? It's so damn late in NA
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>>946511
Well shit, guess I better get my ass rerolling then. How many 5*s should I aim for when rerolling? Two at least?
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>>946499
>Can I always come back to fight them whenever I get better level/gear and stuff?
Yes
>Good to know. I ran out of nuts anyways for now though
Why does it feel like you are not doing those ad reward cait fights?
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>>946519
With the step up banner you get more rolls because of the reduced cost to pull, so I'd say at least 3 while it's still up.
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>>946519
Two is the safe minimum. Not too hard to get and it'll put you in decent enough shape to get started.
3 Shouldn't take terribly long unless you're unlucky af and its just that much nicer to have an extra 5* in the mix
Anything beyond that you're pushing into "this could take a while" territory so you'd need to weigh the reward against your sanity.

I think 3 is a pretty solid number to shoot if you have a bit of time. But if you just want to get started, at least 2 should be very accessible.
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>>946522
>Why does it feel like you are not doing those ad reward cait fights?
idk what that even means desu
only been playing for about an hour after I got a reroll I liked
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I thought this was gonna be like the original on switch seriously explain to me:

what's the point of a gacha game if there's no way to showoff your characters to anyone because its single player and also you can't jack off to the characters because they are ugly pixel art blobs? and waiting days for bosses to respawn lmao? also it will eventually shut down just like all the other games and you can say good bye to your money and time forever.

Explain your reasoning to a normal person please.
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>>946533
You can battle caits by watching ads 3 times a day and they give a ton of exp and gold. That's in the find button thing
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>game sits on "loading data" for like 1 full minute when I start it up
this happen to everyone or is it just me?
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>>946545
More Octopath for me since I've beaten the game. There's some love put into it despite the stingy gacha.
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>>946524
>>946525
Got it, thanks. I'm only rolling up to the second step since there isn't enough for the third step. Should I play a bit to finish the third step or is it not worth it efficiency-wise?
Also, should I count 4.5*s to save my sanity or does the difference between the 4.5* and 5* make a difference?
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Who is the qt grill on stream rn?
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>>946545
it's a game that's free and high quality foremost imo
then they decided to wring the most money possible out of it that they could
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>>946561
Sayu, the Square Enix community manager for Octopath and Romancing SaGa Re;UniverSe. Her heart's in the right place and she is cute as far as SE community managers go, but her game knowledge and general competence is pretty lacking compared to others.
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I just opened the stream and saw chat losing their mind over Primrose. I'm assuming they were showing her off as the next global banner?
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>>946570
Yep after maint on Wednesday.
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>>946572
Fug, I'll have to skip unless there's a step up.
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>>946570
Fuck I might have to reroll again, thought she would be months away.
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Why is this game so dark...
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Pretty sure Sayu just said the 88 rubies will be on the 8th, 18th, and 28th of every month, not just August.
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>>946560
You can get the extra roll by doing a few feats (putting someone in your backline, doing a path action with an NPC, leveling up your characters and collecting Rubies from the influence tab). The way I did it was if I got two 5 stars I liked in the first two 10 rolls, then I'd do the extra steps for the third pull. Otherwise, reroll again.
>Also, should I count 4.5*s to save my sanity or does the difference between the 4.5* and 5* make a difference?
Depends on the character. Lynette is definitely the one you want as a 5 star. Most of the others are serviceable at 4.5 even if they don't have their strongest skills. It's just more work to star them up the more you have.
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>>946560
Up to you with the steps, but at 3rd step you ain't even getting a discount so I wouldn't bother.

4.5* are fine, some end game stuff might need the extra levels and some units won't get their best stuff until 5*, but it's not a deal breaker most of the time. Just go in knowing that it's a pain in the ass to get them to 5* unless you get it through the gacha (which admitedly is pretty likely down the line as the units up right now are from the general pool).
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>>946586
yeah i heard that too
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Primrose next huh. Put that in the OP too.
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is primrose better than lynette? feels like putting them both in a party is a bit overkill
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i liked primrose until her story got super fucked like goddamn
so i hope viola's story will turn out not so bad, she's really fun in gameplay too
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This stream is ass i thought they were gonna discuss everything coming up and maybe even a code. I don't want to see a shitty let's play with a dice giveaway. What a letdown
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>>946625
nips consider lynette slightly better and more versatile
primrose can hit 4 times with fan and 3 times with dark but they are both random targets
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>>946631
SE global streams are always shit
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>>946578
I remember in the first stream (before the CBT) they did make a point of saying this one's story is much darker/more "mature" than the first Octopath.
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>>946631
For SaGa global, the Taiwan streams are where upcoming characters get shown with full breakdowns of their kits and changes from JP alongside all the upcoming events and what rewards will be given. The American streams show a few slides of content (mostly ongoing stuff with a bit of new stuff everyone already knew about) and then they have to fill an hour just fucking about.
Octopath doesn't have that excuse so idk why they don't put more effort into going over the knitty gritty of the game and upcoming content. I guess it really is just as >>946634 says. OO streams are decent though; global exclusive characters get full breakdowns on stream by a dude who actually knows the mechanics and what he's talking about.
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>like primrose because of OG octopath
>like lynette because of nu octopath
>pulling for primrose feels weird because I don't really feel like I need her with lynette
>not pulling for primrose feels weird because I like her and skipping someone I like is cringe
bit of an unfortunate situation
I'll probably have to just hope I luckshit her on some other banner months from now...
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>>946647
>OO streams are decent though
They used to be great.
Nowadays it feels like they just wanna get that shit over with an get out of there asap. If they didn't do the coop in between slides those streams would be 15 minutes tops.
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Okay I give up on this gacha
It just hates me
Someone post cute Tressa to cheer me up
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>>946653
I do aim to get the 8 original Octos in order to put them on the same team and for pictures especially after looking at the Summer Vacation photo op, that way I can pretend there was proper interaction between the 8
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>>946663
it took me like a full day to get tressa too
sending good tressa vibes your way
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>>946674
>>946670
I literally have no time to try and reroll for her anymore, and even if I did that would just mean I'd be suckered into playing another gacha
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>>946681
don't give up!
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>>946685
Too late
I'm replaying Octopath Traveler instead
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>>946699
anon this gacha is slow paced youd be better off just playing it instead
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>>946719
>500 leaves for her hat
Give me that hat
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>>946719
ravioli ravioli do not lewd the colzione
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>>946699
You could also pull for hotter Tressa in a few days
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>>946721
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>>946552
Same here. It’s completely lag-free otherwise, which makes this extra weird.
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>>946724
>better Tressa
Blatant lies
>>946770
Great, I made her nervous
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>>946830
others chipped in
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Tressa is for Ali
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>>946830
>better tressa
you know, i went into cotc wondering if anyone could leave an impression on me like tressa
unfortunately the characters are hands-off of the main story and all they get is a snippet of their own character story, but fiore's super grown on me
and she's neighbors with tressa! what a fun coincidence, now i imagine that i'm having them journey everywhere together and it's great
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>>946837
Yea, most of the traveler sidestories are duds but I really liked Fiore's for some reason. Haven't done too many yet but she was the only one I wouldn't have skipped if there was an option to.
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>>946398
Tressa and Fiore chatting
Lynette being a whore
Rodion being a kid
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What do I trade with guide fragments. Do you keep them for their next banner or they don't carry over. Guidestones and boost berries don't seem very worth.
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>>945939
I want the cute octopus as a party member tbqh.
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I have no idea what I'm doing
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>>947041
Welcome to life anon
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>>947029
He takes up all 8 slots
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>>947125
Reminds me of the unicorn in Suikoden 2.
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>>947029
This looks like Waluigi's face with long ears and wearing a wig.
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the game showing play time is making me anxious
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>>947143
>I'll play this for a bit and then bin it
>suddenly 14 hours
Guess I'm getting sucked in.
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What does this mean? I thought it was for people you have taken all possessions from/total people but that's not it. I had a blue guy I'm still working on.
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>>947219
People you've talked to.
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i really wish all dailies followed reset instead of a dumb 20h timer
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>>947377
Do them to reset and you're good to go?
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If I'm rerolling should I be pulling on the step up banner even though the featured units aren't s tier? Since it's cheaper it seems like a better deal than the generic banner right?
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>>946830
I didn't say better though, I said hotter.
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Why is this game so dark?
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>>947463
yeah, unless you want heathcote or tressa
primrose will come around when tressa ends within the next day or so too

>>947483
so tressa'a smile can brighten your day even further
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I feel really late, what wont I get?
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>>947496
3 small nuts and 3,5 rubbies
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What's the math on how many rubies you typically need to pull a character?
If the hard pity is 200 and its 300 a pull that'd be 6000, minus whatever you save from the step up? Seems bad on paper, but it doesn't account for the possibility you pull them on the way to that pity.

Is there some magic number where you mathematically have a good chance to pull them by X rubies?
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>>947493
how good is primrose? since the stepup goes away tomorrow, I'd have to pick between those options.
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>>947551
I'd like to know as well.
Particularly if I already have Lynette
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>>945939
2 died of heat exhaustion



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