Pre-Registration is openhttps://www.toweroffantasy-global.com/
Will probably be shit but I'm starved for anime games with character creation so going to try it out anyways. PC release isn't simultaneous with mobile?
>>899656>Official states release at Q3>Steam page shows H2 and Q4 releaseThey indicates different release but I hope it's simultaneous, it will be wierd if they aren't releasing it simultanetously
Is there any wiki out there for this game? I want to check out all the character skins.
>>899150What kind of game is this?
>>906254Anime gacha mmo
>>906268Like ni no kuni?
>>906269Closer to Genshin, except you see other players around you and there's pvp.
>>906437So like Closers and SoulWorkers.
>>906447Combat is closer to those than genshin but it's set in an open world with shit to collect.
>>906542That sounds great. Why this shit is not more popular?
>>906549It's almost got a million pre-regs. That is popular.
>>906549They've only just recently started their marketing campaign for global release. CN release being really rough doesn't help either, a couple of stolen asset controversies, really buggy 1.0 because of rushed release and generally being of lower production value than genshin got a lot of people to write the game off.From what people who actually play CN version are saying they've fixed up most of the major bugs and keep on improving the game though so I'm pretty hopeful.
Checked this out. It seems like they've just copy pasted Genshin and added a few things. It's almost identical. Basic China game dev, no surprises there. Still, I always wonder how that shit can be legal. Might give it a try when it's released.
>>899150will give this a try because I'm tired of mihoyo's shit but wished chinese devs would stop making the same futuristic scifi apocalyptic crap
>>907161Hey at least this one has colors
>>907153We are talking about Tower of Fantasy, not Wuthering Waves :^
How is the controller support for this? Anyone tried it on the CBT?
>>907153No copyright laws in West Taiwan, so there's nothing actually illegal. If asset flips actually get hit, it's generally the community itself, or players from the game the assets were stolen from, who go after those titles.
>>899150I registered the other day after I asked a friend to give me a few 3D gacha recomendations this would be the first 3D gacha I play so i've been wondering how unplayable are these things if you play on Ipad rather than a PC? I prefer to keep all my gachas on the same device
It has character creation so I pre-reg'd, but MMOs trigger my social anxiety
So yeah this looks like a Genshin clone, but how's the multiplayer aspect?The thing that really prevents me from enjoying Genshin as much is the fact that the hardest mode is in single player only and there's no competitive co-op multiplayer mode like raids etc., which is a big deal to me.
Looks like they got a big name singer just for the global release?
>>923486Worked for Dragalia... lmao
Does this copy the zero fanservice of Genshin as well?
>>907153>just copy pasted GenshinAnd Genshin is a copy and paste of Breath of The Wild. The chain continues
>>924544Chinese devs so they'll most likely be just as stingy and have to follow the rules as well.Hopefully they're not as lazy with content as Genshin.
>>923718I hope other Bronya is a F2P character if not I'll summon for her
>>924544What kind of fanservice are we talking? I know there's a swimsuit skin for (You) but dunno about the other playable characters.Got the screenshot from this vid https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MB4y1B7ga?
>>924740just like that, at minimum. I'll check out the english release.
>>924740>skins already>fanserviceAlready better than Genshit, will give it a try.
This game looks interesting but the lack of hype around it makes me think it's going to die quickly.
>>928266How much hoiiiiiiiiiip do you need when there are already 3 million preregs?
>>906437>and there's pvp.the pvp isn't part of the actual mmo though, you just click a button in a menu to queue then you zip off to a 1v1 arena mode where your gear/levels don't matter (although which weapons/characters you gacha'd for still does)
>>924601she is a standard banner character, you can probably reroll for heron CN launch they gave everyone a standard-banner SSR selector chest to apologize for one of their many fuckups (i think this one was due to a few players finding a way to dupe gacha currency and get infinite rolls)but I doubt they'll repeat that in NA
>>928278The hype on 4chan in general I guess. Most of the comments I've seen from /vg/ about this game are negative and this thread is pretty dead too. Nips seem slightly more excited for this game from what I've seen on 5ch.
a lot of that came from vids about IP theft and bugs it got a lot better after the first week right now i just need something to play that isnt locked behind a paywall or needs 2 wikis to understand
>>906549The name is retarded, just like GirlCafeGun it will turn off a lot of people who won't even try it because it sounds like generic slop of the mill shit. Who the fuck thought "tower of fantasy" was an interesting name after 1920?
https://www.toweroffantasy-global.com/campaign/twitter-account/>AUG1111AMUTCThey finally "officially" announced the release date.
Weird no one asked before, but how cancerous is the gacha and is rerolling mandatory?
>>908389It's ok but you can't remap keys yet (without 3rd party stuff), they're improving it atm>>9065803m global pre-regs, almost 1m for Korea and on its way to 3m in Taiwan>>916235iPad is actually probably the best handheld device you can play it on (if it's fresh ofc), but they will also release on Steam, so maybe Steam Deck is also on the way>>920398There are quite a lot of difficult contents if you're not whaling like high-level dungeons and raids (tho they are quite simple mechanically atm, but they're working on it)>>928266It was heavily shit on by chinese ppl on release, so strong that even after fixing everything and going the right way it's still 4.5 on Bilibili. That, and marketing before release is quite lacking still, it should change after the thing comes out.>>929597Rerolling is useless, you'll get most of standard weapons at least c0 after 1-2 months. And standard weapons you focus on will be c6 in 1-3 months as well. That's all because you can buy dupes for any rolled standard weapon for 120 cashback (1 roll=1 cashback). And you get a shit ton of standard pulls during map exploration (basically the analogue of genshin chest instead of giving 2 gems gives you the entire gold or purple standard pull).Event weapons are harder to obtain, since you mostly have to spend gems on red event pulls, but still easy, 110-120 pulls and you guarantee c0 and 50% for c1 (and c1 is almost always the most powerspike the weapon gets). You can have 110-120 pulls f2p just by skipping 1 banner mostly.There is also chip gacha for chips that you insert in weapons, but that's for whales like weapon banner in genshin, you don't do that. You get a lot of standard gacha pulls and chip just playing the game, and they are not that worse that event ones.
>>929868Thanks for the info. Can you change the MC's gender after the beginning or are you stuck with what you chose?
>>929893You can by special ticket for some gems
>>929906Good to know it's not locked in.
Compared to Genshin is this a game you can drop in do dailies in 15-30 minutes then fuck off until an event or does it keep you invested like some other MMOs
>>929918The playtime is quite flexible with new updates. The only mandatory daily stuff that you need to do every day takes like 10-15 minutes. And it doesn't even include vitality (resin) activities, since the cap now is 360 (full charge from 0 takes 2 days) and you can skip 1 day. And if you still don't have time, you have a way to spend energy by literally 2 clicks (but it's not profitable).Other contents are more weekly-based now, so it's handy if you don't have much time during the week but have quite a time on weekends.But if you really want to exhaust every possible contents every day, it might take several hours every day, so there won't ever be a feeling of having nothing to do.
>>929868Hi, you seem knowledgeable about the game. Will it be possible for you to elaborate more on the event weapons? The best way to progress through the game will be saving all your currencies for this then?
>>930066If you're full f2p, yes, you only spend gems on event weapon banners and one-time resource packs for completing some certain contents.Other progression stuff is either not worth it for f2p and is better to be replaced by f2p-stuff, or just grindable by default.
wormhole rewards needed crystal to buy after finishing 10 rounds with one being freeI was buying an energy pot a day at 50 for the first per day saving up to farm matrixes but thats 2/3 of another pull without discount.
Release date announcement in 4 hours according to JP Twitter
Damn, China has been making tons of games targeted at women lately
Excited to play this again soon, the beta was fun
What's the point of guilds? Are there any guild rankings or something? Someone will make a non-tryhard guild here right?
My biggest gripe with genshin is the lack of meaningful coop content like elaborate raids and dungeons. Hope this game can at least quench the thirst a little bit
How's the combat compared to something like NGS?
>>931399>2 whole weeks to play before everyone leaves for Sumeru
>>931885You see other players outside of your party?
>>932362>And then go back to shitting other threads because there's nothing to do after exploring new content in one day and burning through 15 mins worth of resin
I hope this game does well so Genshin finally has some competition, but I fear it's just going to flop
>>932522It definitely won't beat Genshin at its own game, and most companies are neither willing nor capable of competing with the likes of Mihoyo
>>932522>no console releaseThis is why it wont compete>>932554Wipe the semen off your mouth when you speak.
>>932559No, seriously. In an age of AAA addiction, you'd need, like, Raid:Shadow Legends levels of marketing to compete with Genshin. And the companies with that much money to spare would rather make simpler games like Horsepussy; they're practically afraid of risks these days.Mihoyo's only real advantage is being the only tryhard in a sea of lazy fucks.
>>932589People sang the same shill song when gbf or fgo were on top "muh game is invincible" 'nobody can challenge the king".
>>932589>And the companies with that much money to spare would rather make simpler games like Horsepussy; they're practically afraid of risks these days.Well Uma is betting genshin in Japan with far less investment. Open world is a meme once you reach the endgame anyways.
>>932522Lmao this shit tanked hard in china their home market, why would you think global would do any better
>>932364Yes, it is more like an MMO. That screenshot is from a world boss that they just killed, so many players had to team up together to do enough damage. (Although I believe high level whales can solo world bosses)
>>899150I'm looking forward to this in the hopes that it might be on Linux.. do you think preregistering is worth it or does it not give much?
>>932716It doesn't matter since it's one of those group pre-registers that counts for everyone.
>>932617I think this game will do better in global because the release won't be as fucked up. Chinks are the beta test for global.
How significant will co-op be? I want to make friends
>>932362Not going back to Genshit even if Mihoyo paid me to play it, played a whole year and their concept of new content is more pointless shit to explore with puzzles made for toddlers, the bosses are a fucking joke, no decent coop content, end game is still the same since day 1 and a fucking joke to anyone with 2 hands, unfunny and easy events, 0 balance (electro is still a fucking joke) and also don't forget about the number of released skins in almost 2 years and the crappy censorship.
>>899150Gonna try it out of curiosity but honestly I hate the world design. Looks as if it was made by westerners or pajeets.
>>933075>electro is still a fucking jokeHasn't been the case for a while and dendro is a big buff to electro but yeah the game is pointless if you don't enjoy the exploration.>>932211NGS is more fluid. Anything else I'd add would be too biased against NGS, fuck sega for killing og to push that turd out. Could've at least not dumbed down the combat fucking retarded nips.
Cute stickers https://store.line.me/stickershop/product/20007758/en
>>932617chinks arent exactly a reliable measure, they love genshit because it panders to china every other update and they single handely saved diablo immortal from being a flop
>>933561>Hasn't been the case for a whileThe only thing electro has going for it is a glorified battery thats only actually used in the most braindead of team comps. The two electro characters released since then are shit >and dendro is a big buff to electro>Oh you want a fix for entire element? Roll the brand new characters. Why fix whats broken when we can charge you for a bandaid solution instead?Dendros implementation reeks of powercreep
Are there guilds in this game?
>>934190That and the new characters look like ass.
>>929868will i be able to make friends in this game?
>>934476Whether you can or can't,I'll be your friend anon
>>934219Yes and they hold like 150 people but I don't think there's much guild content. Just gives you access to some guild shop.
>>934546please be my friend
>>934785Some cuties in this gameShame the PC version is delayed otherwise I'd definitely have given it a go
>>934804delayed how long?
>>934806I don't know, I just noticed it says that steam/epic will be later than mobile
>>934804PC from their client will launch same time as mobile, it's just Steam/Epic that's delayed
>>934812where do i find their pc client?
>>934812Oh didn't know there's a standalone client, cool
>>929868What about the story? I'm assuming its generic as shit correct? Does exploration have any legs, what about side content or stuff to do beyond checking off dailies/weeklies?
Does the game have any cute loli's on par with something like klee?
>>932554The only reason genshin succeeded was because it was first. It is so shit though that if anyone ever manages to do 3d gacha better I don't see why they wouldn't get overtaken.
Well this doesn't sound very promising, is this just a global cash grab?
>>934952>a year old postyou must be bored to be digging through some /gig/ shit
>>934952i played on CN launch, here is my evaluation>pve combat clunkyi found it pretty fun and a lot more impactful-feeling than genshin's since you can do stuff like launch enemies in the air and do air combos, etc. but some weapons feel a lot clunkier than others, like the bow feels pretty crap to play and the SR hammer has a super limited moveset. >pc versionran just fine for me, didn't feel like emulatornote that only the perfectworld version has a real pc client though, so anyone playing bilibili version on pc WAS using emu>pvp p2wI don't get this at all unless they changed it massively since I played. pvp was equalized so everyone got the maximum-whale-dupes versions of their weapons and gadgets. the only p2w thing is the typical gacha thing where you (obviously) can't use a weapon unless you have pulled it first. when I played the fire katana was the only limited-banner weapon so idk if they had massive powercreep later>permastaggernever saw this in week1 pvp, maybe people found new techniques or there were huge powercreep weapons or somethingthere IS a good amount of cc from gadgets and weapons but you have your own cc and superarmor crap to fight back and it's nowhere near permastagger>one swipe one big numbermakes sense, the "matrixes" / honkai stigmata are pretty p2w
>>934968>note that only the perfectworld version has a real pc client though, so anyone playing bilibili version on pc WAS using emuWhich version is global getting? Do you know how long steam client will be delayed?
>>934970>Which version is global getting?global is getting... the global versionPW and bili are just separate servers per publisher same as global vs CN in other games. idk why bilibili didn't publish PC version. it was technically illegal for ToF to make a PC version or they didn't have a license from the government or some bullshit though so even on the PW pc client you needed to install the game on your phone first, log in on the phone, and then scan a qr code on PC. I guess this was supposed to make it "technically" count as a pc emulator for the mobile version to get through a legal loophole, even though it was literally just a separate pc client, no emu.i guess bilibili didn't believe in the loophole or want to get around the law. also i have no fucking clue why chinese law prevents releasing PC version, their government is retarded
>>934976Isnt the dev for this tencent, the biggest ccp cocksuckers? How the fuck didnt they get approval?
>>934980>the biggest ccp cocksuckersThey aren't, they're one of the companies getting fucked hard because of ccp schizo policies on tech and gaming.
>>934980>How the fuck didnt they get approval?IIRC it was in the middle of the period where some influential government / Party boomer threw a tantrum and China just stopped approving games entirely for like 4 months
So I found out that basically there is transmog for characters and you aren't stuck looking like a fag if you don't want to. This alone sells it for me, I'm all in baby. Finally I can roll for whatever meta shit I want without being cursed to run around as a prissy gay lad.
>>935138yeah basically you can roll for a character, apply their passive to your character without having to look like them.another alternative is, you can roll for a character, use their look and then apply another character's passives to them.
>>935144Absolutely game changing. Why does every game not do this? The curse of being stuck with playing meta fags is gone. I really hope this game succeeds now.
>>935144They should be hyping that point up everywhere. I guarantee it would catch a ton of attention but no one knows about this if you haven't looked into it I had no idea until I dug in deep.
>>934855This is the only loli they have so far but she's not as cute as Klee. But to be fair, it's really hard to beat a Klee.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsFeC0mNd68The aiming on her weapon looks pretty janky. Just like Klee.
>>935189Pretty cute, good enough I guess.
>>935189this game has a proper lockon system unlike genshin so any janky aiming is not really an issue
>>935189>But to be fair, it's really hard to beat a Klee.what the fuck do people see in her
>>935375She used to be super kawaii during beta but they took away her walking animation and she lost a lot of her sparkle. I will never forgive mihoyo.
I am not expecting this to hit it big enough for it to be a threat to Mihoyo but I hope it's just successful enough to keep alive for at least 4 years or so as other gachashit. Playing the current GAA in Genshin and looking at the Sumeru leaks fills me with no excitement whatsoever because no matter how pretty that shit is it's just gonna be the same "watch unskippable cutscenes with a shitty story" then spend 7 hours climbing rocks for 3 gacha rolls and forget the new region event exists because there's nothing else to do in it and I want out but I haven't found another gacha that traps me in. Also is it me or do genshin models feel outdated already, looking at the new sumeru character models they looking kinda shit
>>935447why do you still play genshin? it's obvious that you hate the game so why not just quit lmao
>>935447We know Anon, we know. oyohiM does not deserve it's world designers, they're too content with how the art department carries their shallow game.It's a shame, really, the world itself is great, zones like Enkanomiya and the Chasm are kino, but that's about it.
>>935449It's just like any other addiction but gachatards don't like to admit it. You see it a lot in gacha threads on /vg/.
>>935449Sunk cost fallacy, also Genshin only takes your time less than 30 minutes a day.
>>935501>I'm going to spend 30 minutes of my day doing something I hate because of le sunk costThe only conclusion is that gachatards are mentally ill and need professional help.
>>935375She's cute and calls me Onii-chan. Klee is the only good thing about Genshin. I hope Kusanali redeems Genshin's story after the steaming pile of shit that Inazuma was.
>>935447The problem with Sumeru characters is that, because they only have 5 body types, the characters are barely different from what we already have, you have a silver haired zhongli, red haired ayaka, Diona 2 and a white haired Klee>>935511>gachatards are mentally ill and need professional help.Where do you think we are?
>>935447For whatever conceivable reason they dont want to invest in differnt body types for this game which honestly doesn't make any damned since looking at honkai and ZZZ.
>>936184They probably want to reuse as many animations as possible, since the body types share same running animations and such. They are just being fucking lazy and cutting corners where they shouldn't.
Is it true that global will get an SSR selector?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5eThVKK3D0
>>936209shitty clickbait video, it should just be 30 seconds instead of 10 minutes. but as expected all 'youtube content creators' for mobile games are complete dogshit from the video test server / cbt had a 21-day launch event that rewards a selector box for doing some missions, global will probably get the same event although it's not guaranteed. CN only got an apology ssr selector because of one of the dozen gamebreaking bugs around launch, obviously they won't do that in global since the controversies/bugs won't repeat but it seems like this event is there way of giving global the SSR anyways
Any reroll guide?
>>934855Most popular character creation data on CN seems to be AL's Lafite
all im hearing is that the powercreep in this game is terrible and all launch 5* weapons will be useless in a few months
>>936647How does character creator datas works?Can we change our character appearance later in the game?Otherwise if is only doable at creation only late starters will use it
Does the game story use your character/username or can you have a username and character name separate? I kind of hate that in other games where you either have to choose a name so it look natural in the story but you can't use a username you like to us because it would look of place. "Here, take this weapon John." vs "Here, take this weapon Fattynipple404."
>>936804There are servers, so you choose a name at char creation
>>936778There's pvp so yeah if you care about that then it'll probably be bad. A CN player I've been watching is still using dual guns from release or early release for pve and he seems to be doing fine.
>>936263It's not the youtubers fault, they don't get paid if they don't make the video at least 10 minutes. It wasn't like this before youtube changed the rules.
>>936291Nemesis gets me so hard, I must have her. How long until she comes out for global?
>>936801From what I hear "characters" you roll for are more just their weapons. Your appearance can be anyone you want from your own created character to any weapon characters you roll. So you only have to look like a fag if you want to. It sounds like an amazing system but this is only hearsay I have no idea how it actually works.
>>936801>Can we change our character appearance later in the game?yes, i believe it takes just about 1 roll worth of gacha currency
>>936890Nemesis came out 12 weeks after the CN release.
Is it too early to ask if global is just going to be one server, or split by region?
>>937806there will be like 20 servers per region and no crossplay/server transfersjust like CN
How long do we have to wait until we get the first Loli in the game?
Any tip starting this game? Is there a reroll or better save
>>938396Ruby, months. Meanwhile make your cunny. Small body, big head
Who is the cutest boy in the game?
i can't wait for you guys to create a vg thread and get raided by screeching /gig/er
>>938723Already happens on /v/
>>938723Don't forget the sales ranking autism that comes with mobile gachas.
>Releases on a weekdayWhy?
>>938928decent amount have done that recently and still get overloaded on launch
Everything I have seen about this game includes some genshit players seething, what's up with that? It reminds me of FGO players before their game crashed and burned.
>>935189>Not a potato with legs.Already better than any genshin loli.
>>935487what do people even see on the genshin world designs? their world designs are baby's first concept art and so generic i thought it was intentionally generic
can they just release the bloody thing already
>>938988Theres layers to it:Genshin fans are always insecure, even more so now that a potential competition is actually coming out globally, they arent tottaly wrong though, this is mmo+gacha and the chances of crashing and burning are very high, it all depends how the game is handledPeople who dislike genshin, some are desperately clinging ot the idea that something can dethrone it
>>938995I can only speak for myself, I was impressed how far phone games have come, that's it. Having grown up with NES, SNES & PS1, I always look forward to new leaps, this was one for me since all the phone games were some cheap ass shit some middleschooler could've made by himself in unity or such.>>938988The honest answer is that /gig/gers are seething because they see that ToF gets content that they always wanted for Genshin, but they ain't getting it. Couple that sith sunk cost and voila
>>935189needs more lolis, better if they are mahou shoujo
>>938274Shit I forgot I am stuck in EU so 90% of the players will be r*ssians, I should just give up on MMOs
>>939057I loved genshin but after 1 year i found myself bored as fuck, every new "content" was a choir to 100%. Sold both my f2p accounts for 400€ luckily. Now IF Tower of Waifus can entertain me for the same amount of time, i would be VERY happy. If not, nothing to loose since there are a shiton of jrpgs in my backlog and more to release soon.
>>939075Its sunk cost fallacy 101They spent time and probably money on genshin, the more they keep going, the more they suffer at the idea of "loosing it all". I partly felt the same, problem gone right after ive sold my accounts (as usual). Its one of the mental process that Gacha companies use to syphon money and keep shackled the userbase.I can bet money that if they had a way out (aka selling the account) they would immediately jump on another game and probably start shitting on genshin/jewhoyo.
>>938988i think its a double edged sword people posted bait vids comparing this game to genshin for views so its just a continuous cycle everyone wants to leech of it since it was so popular
>>939089I'd prefer Russians over SEAmonkeys.
How does the gacha system work? Does pity carry over between banners? Does it have spark and how many rolls to spark?
>>939163>How does the gacha system work? Worth noting all I'm about to say is based on information I got from youtube videos.There's 3 types of banners: Common banner (purple), Standard banner (yellow), and Limited banner (Red).Common banner has no pity at all and uses purple roll spheres, in exchange for no pity the game constantly showers you with rolls for this banner (Like 4 rolls off dailies alone).Standard banner has pity that isn't shared for any other banner but this one is up basically forever, uses yellow spheres, has a soft pity around 30 and hard SSR pity at 80 rolls and hard SR pity at 10 rolls.Worth noting pity doesn't reset if you get an SSR, if you get one the counter keeps ticking up to 80, you will ALWAYS get an SSR every 80 rolls.You will also get a spark token on each roll, then you can buy dupes with this currency, yes only dupes, you can't buy new stuff here.Limited banner has pity that isn't shared with any other banner or with other limited banners, once the banner swaps out the Limited spark tokens get converted to Standard spark tokens and your pity resets. It also uses red spheres, you want to use your black cube currency ONLY on these red spheres.The limited banner also has a 80 SSR hard pity like standard, only a 50% rate up, no guaranteed coin flip, but you can outright buy the banner character at 120 rolls (by using 120 limited banner spark tokens).>Does pity carry over between banners?TLDR: No.>Does it have spark and how many rolls to spark?Only limited banners have a true spark at 120 rolls, which according to some information I have seen is doable to save up for by skipping around 1.5 limited banners but I would not trust that.Just as a reminder, weapons and characters come as a package deal, you roll for only the weapons and if you get them you get the character with them.
>>938988Staff, shills, and gaming sites keep comparing it to Genshin. Then there was that shitstorm about them accidentally releasing a trailer with stolen Honkai assets that they had to apologize for. It can't be helped
>>9391862 corrections based on other videos I have seen>the pity at 30 is a one-time beginner deal>the 80 pity on limited banners carries over, 120 tokens pity dont
>>939217>the pity at 30 is a one-time beginner dealWell damn.
>>938988>It reminds me of FGO players before their game crashed and burned.Your shipper content bro?
>>938723/vg/ and big boards is where discussion goes to die, even if there's a general i will still post here, only getting links and promos from the general's OP
>>939614this, if shitposting was banned on /vg/ that place would be deader than /vmg/
Any tier list to consult before using the SSR selector? Also this game seems to adhere to the trinity system similar to your typical mmo. Are the game's content that hard that just a full dps team can't clear it? I like playing support roles in games but don't wanna pick a SSR tank/healer just for them to become irrelevant because no meaningful content needs them. Also I couldn't care less about the pvp.
>>939915>SSR selectorHas that been confirmed to be obtained by the devs?
>>935189Wait, is her head normal sized? As in, it's not enlarged compared to npc or other characters. If so, I'm sold and might try it.Genshin's loli characters are bobblehead goblinas for some fucking reason.
>>939915Almost every single tier list I have seen is contradictory with others, so there's nothing to really draw a conclusion from.If you really want a guideline, what I have seen to be consistent across some tier lists is "Meryl good, King good, Samir good, Shiro is okay, Zero fucking sucks" .>Are the game's content that hard that just a full dps team can't clear it?.From what I have seen whales can solo world bosses and raids, not even turbowhales either, just a good character and a good player, you may manage with no tanks but healers may be required if only to deal with chip damage.>I like playing support roles in games but don't wanna pick a SSR tank/healer just for them to become irrelevant because no meaningful content needs them.You can probably manage with Coco or the SR healer, given Coco is on standard you will eventually get her anyway so no need to use the selector if global does get it.
>>940005>Genshin's loli characters are bobblehead goblinas for some fucking reason.there's a reason people use "potato" as a derogatory term for them
>>940005its funny because the npc lolis are normal but the playable ones were made to look like THAT, someone in the dev team really thought the potato was better looking than a normally proportioned loli
>>940005Yes, She looks like a proper loli.
>>939915>>939983https://toweroffantasy-global.com/news-detail.html?content_id=6f72d3f6ab997a4483abc50a6b1cb30deb0aIt's been confirmed.
>>940043Oh nice, that means I don't have to reroll for Shiro then.
>>940043U wot m8?
>>940043Nemesis will be the first event banner, not Claudia?.What.
>>940103Works on my machine. Looks like Nemesis is the first banner. I guess we can't use CN to predict banners anymore.
>>940116>>940117fuck me my plan was to not have to reroll then save everything until nemesis because she's the only one i really want
>>940117Oh fuck, in that case I will just save for the collab banner
>>940117Is it possible to have 120 red nucleuses before the Nemesis banner ends?
>>940122https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGmfN8DXbccApparently if you speedrun the entire fucking game content at launch, then maybe.Worth noting that's just from achievements alone, it doesn't include weeklies or event rewards.At some point you are better off rerolling.
>>940130Actually scratch that, I don't think you can easily reroll for red balls unless you want to reroll with a single red ball.Don't get me wrong, some people are insane enough to actually do that for Nemesis, but still.
>>940122new characters get added to standard around 6 months after release in CN so that's something at least
My wife, Meryl.
i checked on the future banners and ive only seen one new male being added, dare i say based?
>>940175Tone down the racism lol.
>>940009>whales can solo world bosses and raids, not even turbowhales either, just a good character and a good playerNiggers on reddit were saying most of the launch weapons will be useless once powercreep hits and that I'd need new shit even for pve. Are they just lying retards?
>>940224From my experience anyone trying to make a tier list at launch is a clueless retard that doesn't know anything they are talking about.From there tierlists revolve around popularity contests of what manages to trivialize content for retards.There's a high chance they are confusing normal account progression and easily being able to level something to endgame levels with powercreep.
>>940175Just from reading her weapon info here: https://toweroffantasy.info/simulacra/nemesisI'd sum her up as a healer based on ATK stats? No idea what she excels in and I'm not keen on watching niggers either.Don't think she's one of the OP characters but she doesn't seem bad to have either.
>>940234Niggers say that she is present in top tiers cn comp, but must be used with unreleased characters in Global. But again, niggers. There is a good chance that she is one of those worth invest in for the "future"
>>940234Reminder Advancements are dupes.If you only get one copy she remains a sustain bruiser that sometimes heals allies too.Extremely retard proof, basically.
>>940175yes, but from what I've seen, the supports and tanks does at least decent damage as well. we will have to see how the game actually plays in actual though.
>>940117>>940135>Can't reroll for Nemesis that easily.Oh fuck this shit, after the hell that was Genshin rerolling only to find out powercreep screwed me over anyway I will just grab Meryl with the selector and fucking dip.I hope I get Nemesis with f2p rolls if I can save the full 120 rolls or not, if not, drop all the reds for her and hope for the best on the last day.
>>940248someone said that these limited characters gets added to the standard banner pool afterwards, so you still get a chance to get her even after her banner is over.im personally going for King though because of the scythe.
>>940257apparently it goes like thisfirst run > a few months for a rerun > an extra banner worth of wait > they get added to standard (yellow banner)claudia (first cn limited) took around 6 months to get added to standard, everyone that isn't a collab character gets added too apparentlybut you still have to get lucky and actually get them, so good luck with that, yes you get way more yellows and purples than reds but it's still down to luck
>>940248Dropping less than full pity on the last day is a bad move, may as well just skip and save yourself the potential frustration of what will feel like a bricked account and likely cause you to quit.Or if you decide you really like the game a few days in buy whatever cheap monthly pack they offer and that'll probably cover it. Though personally I try not to spend anything for the first few weeks at least to make sure it's a game I'm not going to drop.
>>940263I looked at the upcoming CN characters and I want nobody aside from Nemesis, everyone I want is on standard.Even if I drop every red on her and still don't get her, saving for her rerun is a non-issue.If I get really lucky and get her, depending on the freebies we get I may even be able to roll enough to get extra dupes on the rerun and buy the rest to max her out using the standard spark tokens later.
>>940270Whats the idea team comp for nemesis?Waifu wise she is a 9/10 for me
>>940318I have no idea, I'm rolling exclusively because I like her, nothing else.
>>940033Cute. She's not in game on launch is she?
>>940351Nope, she is S tier in both pve and pvp.
>>940318Seems like a good addition for a Crow or Samir main just for her damage boost.
>>940398Full volt team yeah. I like both samir and nemesis but based on what various youtube niggers say, volt is inferior to fire and ice. Im a cunnisseur, so i was aiming for Ruby but she could come out 6 months from now..Fuck i need to plan a bit in the next couple of days.
Will we get proper trials to try out the weapons before pulling for them? I would hate to spend all my stash on one and then hate how it plays
Can I main support here, I'm tired of playing DPS
>>940445Main coco then
Holy shit I don't know if I should be excited or depressed. Nemesis was the character I wanted the most. I was planning on saving all my rolls for her. If she is the launch banner how possible is it to reroll for her? I have done arduous rerolls I don't mind tryharding but is it even possible? What is the most rolls you can get for her banner in a reasonable time? 30m-1h per reroll?
Which gun girl is the best?
>>940456As mentioned here: >>940130 you could on paper get the 120 rolls needed for a spark.Now look here: https://www.toweroffantasy-global.com/The 3 million reward should give you 500 dark crystals on making a new account.If you go and watch any video that explains the gacha and banner systems, you will see to buy a red (limited) roll you have to spend 150 dark crystals (cubes) to buy one red roll.If you look here >>940043You will see the nemesis banner starts pretty much on release day anyway.As for the rerolling act itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNQfcuFO3u4It seems to take around 40-60 minutes depending on how fast you are, if you are rerolling for reds you only have to play until unlocking the gacha rather than do the full 30 gold nucleus run.Also apparently the login bonus event on release gives you a single red on the first day?.Only 3-4 reds per reroll, but it should be possible to reroll for her, not even a full 10 pull of reds, but it's doable assuming they give all the rewards (they should) and you are willing to test your luck, so good luck, we are gonna need it.Just remember to download the game a day before release, make your character, save it, then load the preset on every reroll to speed it up.Worst case scenario, just save up all your rolls for her rerun and pretend it's her normal banner.
>>940494Wow that actually makes me feel a lot better. I spent 2 weeks rerolling for keking in genshin (and didn't even get her after 100 rerolls). Seems doable if I won't have to go through a mega long process to get to the rolling.
>>940494Do we know which characters will be available in the selector box?
>>940503Yes actually.>Crow, Meryl, Tsubasa, Coco, King, Shiro, Zero, Samir, Huma.
>>940509Is there a website that has tier lists or something to give me an idea of who is worth picking? I was interested in supporting but I don't know enough about the game to know if that is something viable to main. I thought it might be easier to keep up as a support and let the whales go for dps. Is that a viable strategy or should I focus on a dps character first?
>>940513There are tier lists, but all of them are contradictory.If you want to metafag pick King, Meryl/Shamir or Coco, in that order, they are basically universally usable and IIRC still see use on CN (in PvE).As for raids and co-op content, IIRC pretty much any random group of retards can clear content as long as they have a healer.From what I can see, normal exploration content isn't that hard so you don't have to metafag solo, it's only on join operations (raids) that you need to care about meta a little, but levels and matrices (artifacts/gear) is far more important than specific characters.I would say yes it's viable but don't base your rolls on what's meta, it's never worth it as a f2p, but if you REALLY want to metafag as a healer everyone recommends Coco.
>>940445You can main support but from the looks of it, they're not essential in clearing content but if group of players are not retarded. Really bummed by it. This game could follow the trinity system of actual mmo's but ig all dps is the way to go
>>940524that's a good thing, the trinity meme has to die, playing as pure-tank or pure-healer is always boring as shit but someone has to do iti play games to have fun not as a fucking job
>>940527If everyone plays a dps that would mean the content is not hard enough and the boss is just a standing still loot piñata. Ofc there are challenging multiplayers coop games with no trinity system and all dps (warframe, destiny) but I don't expect a chink company to get to that level in terms of making difficult content.
>>940536Honestly nowadays I vastly prefer big sandbags that occasionally make you dodge to the alternative.Given the alternative is the shitshow that is current genshin content, I agree the sandbags are better.
>>939186there are 5 bannerspurple mostly gives farmable items and xp fodder, it gives you infinite R/SRs so you will easily have max dupes of all of those within week 1 but only around 1/300 chance for an SSR.then there is standard character, limited character, standard matrix, and limited matrix bannersmatrixes are the gacha equipment, you can farm SR in game but SSR are gacha only and have the best set effects. including a signature set for each character.
>>940445This guy seems to be struggling but I can't trust most Youtubers and their skills really. https://youtu.be/amd32g6AsMg?t=185
>>939915according to this thread, SSR ice bow is the only standard weapon that isn't completely powercrept on CN (although it's still kinda powercrept, it is just the budget cheaper/worse option). so it is the longterm optionotherwise wait until you get your SSR pity from the gold orb banner and choose selector based on that depending on whether you want to go for tank, healer, or DPS set effect. e.g. if you get Coco Ritter (SSR heal staff) from standard banner then you might want to use your selector on the shield cube guy for the double support setup and healer set effect.If you get Meryl (SSR ice greatsword), then you might want to go for tank setup, so either use selector on King (SSR fire scythe) and pair with the SR hammer for tank resonance, or use selector on the SSR shield/switch-axe (i forget the character's name) to have two SSR tank weapons)
>>939186>>940630You can get SSR Matrices from Dungeons as well, not the Limited SSR Matrices, just the regular ones.
>>940523>if you REALLY want to metafag as a healer everyone recommends Coco.Anon, this is because coco is the only SSR healer in the game.The other SSR support character is Zero, but his weapon only gives shields so it is useless for solo healing. You use it alongside Coco's staff to get the 2-part healer set bonus. at least that goes for the launch lineup, idk who they added later since I only played for 1-3 weeks around CN launch
>>940523>>940648actually correcting myself, Nemesis the launch limited banner char is a healer as well, IDK how she compares to Coco.On CN launch the limited char was Claudia the physical katana instead.
>>940655Nemesis isn't a dedicated healer, she's a DPS with sustain.She has far more damage than healing.
So reading this anons post >>940630>it gives you infinite R/SRs so you will easily have max dupes of all of those within week 1Fellas, this gives me an idea, we know that we need 120 red tokens to pity the limtied character, and we get one token per roll, but a video I saw yesterday said that if you pull a dupe of a maxed SR on that banner, it counts as 2 tokens towards the 120 pity. So perhaps, if want to minmax things, we should ignore Nemesis banner until we got the SRs maxed. In a less than ideal scenario, since you are guaranteed a SR every 10 rolls, it means at least 11 SRs should drop before the 120 pity(not counting the SSR at 80), and if each SR counts as 2 tokens then pity technically goes down from 120 to 100But this is me theorizing based on what I heard so feel free to call me a retard
>>940657I see.She still counts for support/healer resonance though so you can use her plus one of Coco/Zero to get the healer bonus in party play.
Can mono element (fire/fire/fire) work or does this game force you to playing with 2-3 elements (fire/fire/ice or fire/ice/volt)?
>>940679element is much less important than genshin, but many enemies have specific elemental resistances, for example you might fight an enemy who has ice-resistant armor and then once you break the armor he has fire-resistant flesh underneath. so it's kind of important to have at least two damage types, but IIRC the damage resistance is not that severe and you can just power through itI broke ice resistant armor all the time with Meryl's weapon (the ice greatsword, which has great shatter/armor-break multipliers).
>>940659There's 3 character banners, purple, yellow and red.Purple is the common banner that he said gives you practically infinite R and SRs because the game vomits purple balls at you to roll on it.Yellow is the standard banner and the rolls are less common.Red is the limited banner, and Nemesis is a limited banner.Your rolls on yellow and purple don't do anything for your red token pity.You could save enough yellow spark tokens to get dupes for nemesis after her rerun at least.
>>940686that's nice to seesomething i hated about genshin long term is pretty much needing all 4 main elements and a claymore on you at all times unless you had the metafag dps to burst down everything before their shields were upwhat that meant was unless you had a favorite on each element (pyro, cryo, hydro, electro) the game locked you into using 3 characters you probably don't care about just to make the game playablefuck that
evens make an oppai loliodds make brown dfc tomboy
>>940648Has the same VA as picrel. He uses the same voice tone on anything. The gunner gal sounds like Fischl too.
>>940727tower of tanchildhoodfriend?
>>940729>The gunner gal sounds like Fischl too.please tell me you mean nemesis
Reminder.500 Dark Crystals is what you use for the 3 red rolls in a reroll.The SSR Weapon Box is the SSR selector.
>>940734I got you confused. I meant Zero sounds exactly like Childe. While Samir sounds like Mein Fräulein.
Forgive me if this is in an FAQ somewhere, but how much multiplayer content is there in ToF?My biggest complaint with Genshin is that there's no reason to go out into the world and explore with a friend.
Saki Fuwa when?
>this game have three different currency to roll.God damn it stop copying worst part of Mihomo.
>>940689Thats not what I meant, having a "C6" SR apparently makes all of its future dupes transfer into 2 red tokens when you roll that SR on limited banner
Does this game force you to have unchangeable unique names?
Do I need to reroll if I only want Samir?
>>941080Sounds like bullshit but I will believe it.That means exploring is a must, because that's what gives the most purple balls, more purple balls means getting more SRs, maxed out SR dupes means more red token drops.
>>941104no, she's on the selector
>>934976>PW and bili are just separate servers per publisherWait, so the global playerbase will be split between two servers?Should I start on bilibili, since it probably has less chance to get a global-only EOS?
>>941164>Wait, so the global playerbase will be split between two servers?That post is about the CN playerbase anon.Global will not have the same retardation.It's quite common for MMOs or other games to have separate versions for different CN publishers with segregated servers locally but that never really happens with localized versions of games
I'm liking Linye and her rifle-fan weapon but she also seems to be a new element type in CN? probably won't see her for another year then
So... it costs gacha currency to customise your character?Is there at least a new player free period to customise after the initial creation?If there isn't, I might end up playing with the initial customisation more than the actual game during launch....
>>941174one video I saw said there are tickets for "free" customization, but it takes like 1 ticket per part that you change
>>941174I heard you get a decent amount of currency daily so it shouldn't be that much of a problem unless you like changing your character so much.
>>941166I see, thanks.>It's quite common for MMOs or other games to have separate versions for different CN publishers with segregated servers locallyI'm not familiar with CN mmo market. Is this usually justified? Like, they have so many players they need separate servers for a single game.
>>941204it has nothing to do with too many players and everything to do with companies like perfect world and bilibili being greedy
Some ecelebs are speculating they are outright skipping the first two banners including claudia and instead are going to add them to standard directly.Their "proof" seems to be how in promo videos the characters of those first 2 banners are already included as if they were launch characters, which feels credible given how much they were promoting nemesis only to turn out she's the first limited banner.
>>941349And that suck because is going to make reroll for specific characters harder
>>941357it makes it easier to get the mech guy though which seems to be the most broken character next to the aberration element type. it seems like those 2 character allows you to main any character with ease.
>>941363>the mech guywho
>>941363>aberration element typeIs it some sort of element that reacts with every other element and deals a lot of damage/debuffs when it does cause said reaction?
>>941384there's no reactions in this game like genshit, thank fuck
>>941385So they have specific functions for each element instead?Like how ice magic can inflict slow and fire magic inflict DoT, like in some jrpg's?
>>941384>reactionyou need to go back
>>941387yeselement only does 2 things:1 - the damage type you do, so you can equip %fire damage matrix set if you use fire weapon, but you shouldn't use it against fire-resistant enemy2 - the "charge" effect. once you get 100% super meter, in addition to getting a stocked super usage you also get an immediate effect based on your weapon, e.g. fire weapons apply a DoT for 2s and ice weapons freeze the target for 2s (very annoying in pvp). aberration does picrelated>>941366looks like Marc: https://toweroffantasy.info/simulacra/marche won't be on launch though, the first 2 banners are Claudia (phys katana) and Cobalt-B (fire gun)
>>941427>first 2 banners are Claudia (phys katana) and Cobalt-B (fire gun)Isn't Nemesis confirmed to first banner on global?
>>941445he's talking about CNthe collab ones were right after those two
>>941450There's a collab?
>>941507yes, with shit you never heard of so it doesn't matter
What does elements do specially paralyze?
>>940740How long does it take to get to where you can roll? I watched a video and seemed like a really long time.
Speaking of collabs, what are the chances they've got something cooked up for the JP release? I would rather save for a collab I know about than some literally who chinese comic I've never heard about
>>941004The entire game can be done multiplayer
>>941534About 30-40 minutes, closer to 60 for a full 30 gold nuclei run.It's about just as bad as genshin on release, but has more rolls.Apparently you only need the 35 minute run for red nuclei for nemesis.
>>941535Zero.You will enjoy your Chinese game as the devs rightfully chose for you.Have fun waiting on Blue Protocol.
>>941535Surprisingly non zero because the devs seem somewhat desperate, but they are literally whos, so don't expect much.Even the usual collab whores like kadokawa, persona 5 and nier may be too much to ask for.
Whats the best element?
>>941578fire because dot and needed on a lot of exploration puzzles, but everything is viableexcept physical, which is meh unless you have claudia, then it's good but not tier 0
>>941587>physical is meh unless you own the one(1)(uno) single physical SSRwow...
Eulers lose again
imagine going physical in a world in which everyone can just conjure fire out of their ass
>>941626Wasn't she OP in genshin?.
>>941641not really, she was only meta for the 1 or 2 spiral abyss cycles directly after her release where they specifically had massive buffs to physical damage to make the new character OP (which they always do for every release banner)
>>941644She's strong every time abyss buffs NAs too which does happen from time to time.
>>941587>fireit's already dethroned and weaker than physical now lmao. ice and volt is now the top tier thanks to Lin and the introduction of Aberration element.the game still feels a lot more balanced than genshin though. it's looking like these devs aren't going to add too much characters/weapons which could be both good or bad depending on your taste because the strongest selling point of genshin is the constant release of new 5* characters.
>>941654yes but that ain't on launch and lin isn't op for her element aloneyou could have lin be fire and she would still be bullshit
>>941654From my experience the more devs add features and mechanics with new character or weapons the worse the powercreep will be long term.Introducing new stuff with new things means only those new things benefit from the feature creep.>the strongest selling point of genshin is the constant release of new 5* characters.Wasn't it the exploration? Every genshitter I know wanks off the exploration/puzzles and the "lore", whatever that means with genshin's bland as fuck story.
>>941667The exploration is a fucking joke, I don't know who the fuck even like it. Empty trace of lands filled with shitty puzzles to waste your time.
>>941684Streamers need exploration to produce content. Who would take a 5 minute per day game seriously?
>>941540Sucks she was the one character I wanted the most. Guess I will have to go all out one more time master, please forgive me.
>>941709https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfwB5Iry0ysWelcome to reroll hell.Turns out of you REALLY speedrun it, nemesis rerolls take 15 minutes (plus loading times), which is the fastest possible time you can unlock the gacha and claim prereg rewards.I hope you have fun making 50-100 salted reroll accounts, if not more just to be safe, but hey at least it's something to do during these few days while we wait.
Any idea if Name Change Cards would be available at launch?Seem to recall that CN didn't implement them until a later update
>>941723Reminder to pre register anyway even if you aren't rerolling, getting a pre reg account means you can preload the game and create your character a day earlier before release.
Apparently we're getting our own balancing in terms of character and enemy stats so might wanna hold off on deciding your reroll characters if you're going for meta.
>>941856sounds like a recipe for either disaster or a more successful game than CNreally, only time will tell
Is there an actual "Tower of Fantasy" in the game?Or is it just a title they use since it sounds cool.
how much cunny is in this game?
its got its own mini zone in the middle of the mapmap bot for the area is southeast of the tower itself
>>942030aside from the mc, not much even in cnbut they are actual cunny and not potato trash
>>941856i dont know but since ive heard of elements wouldnt you just pick one a try to maximize it anyway
I remember hearing you get all the characters for free and only roll for weapons, is this true?
>>942091The characters are tied to the weapons. You roll for one and get both.
What do I get for 5$ and 10$ a month in this game?
>>94225615$ less in your account
>>941856We aren't. How are people on such high copium they can reinterpret PR spew into that.
>>941856i hope so.. every CN clip I've seen are using either Marc, Nemesis or Ling it's so stupid.
>>942339not exactly a good metric when ecelebs are always going to shill the newest character
Can we farm enough to pity Nemesis?
how big is the file size on android? Its not fuckhuge like genshit is it?
>>942349somewhere i read the install size is 4gb compared to genshin's 12 or so (and around 6 at launch) but fuck me if i remember where i saw it
Is the reroll in ToF similar to Genshin account creation wise on PC? i.e making multiple accounts and redoing the whole process.
>>942362From what I have seen, basically yes it should be like that.Make your accounts now just in case they only give the prereg rewards to pre-registered accounts.
>>942367its standard for everyone to get the prereg rewards and it wont be different for this one.never seen any gacha be so stupid to only limit it to registered accounts.
Will this game be popular?
>>942389It doesn't have anywhere close to the same marketing budget as genshin, and on top of that even if it did it would be shrugged off as "a genshin clone".So no, thankfully, meaning the worst normalfags will stay away from it.
>>942389Sadly it depends on how bad Sumeru will be
>>942392it will be yet another zone to explore for a day, then use a guide to speedrun the puzzles for a total of one roll worth of primos and never visiting it again unless it's for a story questyou just know that's how it will go, like any other zone they released so far
>>942398Not even those shitty daily/weekly quests?
>>942389I don't think so. But that's a blessing in itself since we won't get the trannies from Genshit and furries from ZZZ
>>942452>muh trannie obsessionyou're part of the problem
Not a e-celeb fag but I find it funny that a certain popular wow streamer will play Tower of fantasy first instead of Genshin despite the latter being constantly requested by the fanbase
>>942541Are they a generic "weebshit bad" guy? If so it's not rare at all.
Is this actually an MMO?
>>942549Basically yes, it's an MMO with gacha more than it is a gacha with mmo elements.
>>942550Wait so he to compete for boss or is it instance?
Can I run this if I can run genshin?
>>942555if you can still run the bloated unoptimized mess that is current genshin, you should be able to run this
>>942545Mostly yes they hate weebshit but its understandable since most warcraft boomers are like that
>>942558Looks like the playerbase will be like Arknights then, pretty much nothing but "anime bad, why is this so anime, sci-fi is supposed to be REALISTIK reeee" westoids and ironic weebs with pretty much the same opinion.
>>942560Im glad I never experienced that side of the fanbase
What's the stamina for this game?
>>942541Is it the bald one?
>>942597Hope he quits early, him and his legion of retards are a bad thing for any game.
Can I catfish in this game like good ol days
>>942038this isn't granblue fantasy lmaoyou don't "build an element"elements are barely relevant except that they use different budget 3-star/4-star equipment sets>>942541tof is actually an mmo with endgame grinding and actual multiplayer content while genshin is a single player botw clone with an irrelevant co-op side modeso it makes sense that an mmo player would choose the mmo
I was going to make a male character but I just found out FeMC will be voiced by Ayaneru and now I don't know anymore.
>>942734>actually an mmodoes this mean we will be competing for resources day 1 and all the rerollers have to wait for their nucleus spots to respawn?
>>942501>if I close my eyes and stick my head in the sand maybe I can pretend everything is like it used to be
>>942879>if I constantly talk about trannies with people who already hate them I will make all trannies kys themselvesGo talk with normalfags and enlighten them about john money instead of bringing that shit here.The other poster is just as retarded as you for getting triggered though.
>>942837nucleuses are instanced but for example world bosses are not
>>942892Tranny has basically become a slang term for anything leftist at this point. I doubt most people are using it with the original meaning in mind.
>genshitters try prove tof is a dead game>end up accidentally proving it's still thrivingif the doomposting is getting to you, remember it's still about as big as arknights despite the dev mistakes and mismanagementit's not dying anytime soon
>>943202What's funny is now there's a rumor about limited characters getting nerfed that is fully made up.Like 90% of the shit genshin players say about this game is unsourced and made up, and the other 10% is grossly exaggerated.Why are genshin players so afraid of this game?.
>>943212because we can actually play with friends and raids like a proper MMOkeep seething genshitniggers
Is it worth rerollingI'm watching a video and the guy make it seem like a real hassle and time consuming to get a reroll. Also once you make a name for a character you're stuck with it?
>>942736I usually go JP but the English voice acting doesn't seem so bad
>>943328It's because you'll eventually max out all the standard weapons with the amount of rolls you get. Doesn't seem worth the trouble for a head start that will be made obsolete.
>>943328If I want to reroll, I'll reroll for Katana girl. She look cool out of the bunch.
Tower bros are we winning?
>>94332815 minutes for each reroll isn't that bad, I'll do it if I like the game since we get the Nemesis banner on day 1.However rerolling for a character on the standard banner isn't worth it since you get a free SRR selector.
>>943432So which characters are on the selector?
>>943444Thanks.King is the meta unit right wanted Shiro but heard she's ass if you're not whaling
So there is a pity system but it doesn't reset if you get lucky early?
So how much of an mmo is this game, kinda like spiral knight, Phantasy Star or wow?
Can I main tank?
>>899150So is this NPC looking shitter the most chad character the game could offer?>>943581I heard they took a lot of inspiration from PSO2>>943582Seems like the game has holy trinity so you can most likely main tank, dps or healer just by using two of the same kind of weapon for the passive effect.
>>943582Yes but healtank is preferred.
Is Saki Fuwa good?
>>943614>So is this NPC looking shitter the most chad character the game could offer? That's bootleg chris redfield with ironman suit. His 1st buff character hopefully they create more.
>>943631yes but needs the team to revolve around her
What's the equivalent of welkins in this game?
is there a site i can check with images of the skins for your character and the simulacra?
>>943202did some genshin tranny post this while trying to prove his point?
>>943630>>943614Who do I roll for if I want to main tank?
>>943664Huma (fire shield) or Meryl (Ice Greatsword).
>>943658Maybe, they sure do love sales chart over there.
>>943651Here you go, anon. https://project-mia.app/
Are Claudia and Cobalt-B gonna be in the standard pool on release? I was expecting they wouldn't since they weren't CN-wise but lots of online guides for global starting out seem to include them in team comps (and Frigg?) so I'm unsure, also wondering about rerolling, kinda seems like you can get a decent amount of SSR's early days in this game that rerolling might not be worth? (as well with, do pre-reg rewards persist across rerolls or would you need to pre-reg with multiple emails?)
>>943683It's gonna be Nemesis. It seems like Cobalt and Claudia are going to be in Standard banner but wont be able to be chosen from the free SSR selector but we will have to wait and see. Most people are saying that it's not worth to reroll unless you like Nemesis or want a great start.
>>943658It happened on the last /v/ thread, I saw it too.
>>943683some people suspect they will be on standard but no on the selector, because they have been in promo vids on the twitter, hell they may even update the selector to include thembut at the end of the day nobody knows
>>943664Huma or Meryl then switch to Saki Fuwa or Marc. Or just use whichever weapon you prefer out of those.
>Bored.>Just pre-registered 50 salted accounts to reroll.>Will probably go all the way to 200 to be safe.I wouldn't be surprised if the pre-registration counter is this high because of people doing this.Do you guys think they will give more rewards at 4 million? The counter is almost there, just 200k away.
>>943680thank you bro
>>941921The one tall af tower in the center of the map is basically it
how possible is it for this mmo to be overrun by bots? afaik it has no autorun and shit but bots always find a way, lost ark's playerbase being 80% bots was hilarious and sad in a way
>>943731Some ppl say that the actual number might be even more, like 6m, but they tone it down bc they didn't plan that many rewards kekw
>>943749Basically there is no need to bot in this game. There is no autistic gold farm from mobs, no market, no auction, nothing from your average open economy mmo. It's also no nft and other cancer stuff. So should be fine.
If somebody is still curious about if they can get Nemesis from the start, here's my maths:1) If you wait with pulling red orbs and instead pull a lot of gold ones beforehand, you'll have a lot of 6-starred SRs, and each SR after getting 6 stars gives you 1 extra cashback token. That way to get 120 cashback hard pity, you'll only need 110 pulls at max2) On CN we didn't get our first event banner from day 1, we got it after 1 week, so I spent gems worth of like 80 pulls to standard banner.AND AFTER THAT I still managed to pull like 30-40 more, smth like that. Yeah, the banner started later and thus ended also later, but it was shorter than what we are going to get (~18-19 days vs global full 3 weeks)
>>943759>I spent gems worth of like 80 pulls to standard banner.>AND AFTER THAT I still managed to pull like 30-40 morethat's the full 120 red balls isn't it?
>>943766+- around that number yeah
3 Days, 23 Hours, 59 Minutes.
>>943759Since we get Nemesis on day 1 it's better to just reroll and save those gems for future characters.
>>943759>>943781You mean I can reroll for Nemesis and guarantee at least one dupe?.
>>943759imagine the smell
How player work in this game? You choose class and character you pull become your companion or you play as character you pull?
>>943781If you don't get event weapons c0 before they get into standard, it will be difficult to get them. You won't get them in SSR selectors and stuff, and with each event weapon added, the chance of getting it from standard will be lower and lower. And she's needed for electro teams. You don't need to pull for her only if you aim for other element teams.
>>943789Once they get added to standard you can just eat all your yellow tokens for dupes, no?.
>>943782You have a 100% chance to get the character you want if you reroll.>>943789do you even know what rerolling is?
>>943787You create an MC, no classes, class is decided by resonance or in other words how many DPS/tank/support weapons you have equipped.You roll, you get weapons.If you get a weapon you can also use that character as active character instead of your MC, level them enough to unlocks passive skills.Character level is tied to the MC and his equipment, you don't have to level everyone individually.However, you do have to level weapons individually as well as their matrices/artifacts.
>>943791Given enough tries maybe.But that's the point, get the first copy on a reroll, then at least one dupe off red rolls.I know it's mathematically possible to get 3 copies of Nemesis with the 3 red rolls from dark crystals on the pre-reg rewards, and I really like her but I'm not insane enough for that.
>>943759Is Nemesis even good? I'm aiming for Saki Fuwa
>>943790Only if you get the base. But it's only for standards, event ones are bought fine
Why tf is this system so confusing holy shit. Why are there so many currencies and so many banners
>>943791Rerolling for event ones is dogshit here
>>943802If you don't aim for electro team skip her
>>943808It's pretty damn simple if you don't compare it to genshit.I have seen actual MMOs with 20 different currencies, 6 currencies is nothing (dark crystal, 3 types of balls and 2 types of matrix roll tickets).
>>943809I don't care, still rolling for Nemesis.
Why is there no reliable youtuber in this game?
>>943823Hopefully it stays that way
>>943823Not exactly a bad thing, ecelebs are always a raw demerit to any fanbase.But it's particularly bad with this game because genshitters both in CN and global keep trying to sabotage it.
>>943823There are quite some of them, but they're not that large. And for those who are, tof probably won't be their main game (unless gayshit screws up the 2nd anniversary so hard, people will finally have somewhere to go to protest).
>>9438313.1 is going to launch right on anniversary. Even if they give nothing the shills will be out in full force deflecting the criticism by talking about the new content. So there likely won't be a concentrated protest this year unless they somehow fuck up extremely badly.
>>943614>I heard they took a lot of inspiration from PSO2I hope they stayed away from the New Genesis shit. I was fun but SEGA were such stingy fucks and lazy the game was left to rot before they updated it and added new shit. Plus it's a grind fest with no end game or rewarding you for your time.
Well got my 200 prereg accounts, wasn't as bad as I expected, will probably push it to 500 tomorrow.Yeah I want nemesis too.I recommend you guys do the same, even if they give the rewards to all new accounts as well after launch it's a way to pass the time if nothing else.
>>943837even if the genshit anni utterly flops like their first anni, people will still play it and defend it anyway, it's way too big to fail at this pointit's many people's first gacha, and you can tell by how people keep trying to play it like a forever grind MMO like destiny or warframe, yes genshit lacks content badly but what these people are used to and are asking for is grinding 24/7, not a gacha stamina systemand because it's their first gacha, sunk cost hits hard
>>943839They took inspiration from the original PSO2 more than NGS, the gameplay feels like the middle point between successor classes and normal classes in the original PSO2.The open world while you could argue it takes a lot from genshin, it only does so because genshin mechanics are so basic anyone could have thought of them.From what I hear while there's content to do, it's not that grindy either.
I want this game to be successful
>>943915Me too but china...
So who are you all picking?
>>943946whoever compliments the one i get from the beginner pity
>>943946After rerolling for Nemesis, whatever she looks the coolest with, probably Samir or King.
>>943946I will main King but if I don't get him or the other two im planning to use with him (Cocoritter and Tsubasa), then I'll probably just play whoever I get until i get those three.
>>943928It was 9th place last month in revenue
Why is no one talking about SRs? Are there really only 5?
>>943946i dunno eye patch hat twintails not diluc
>>944011they are great red token fodder
>>943956Whats the SSR % on limited banner?
>>943848I hope they learned from content issue that Genshin has and same with NGS. Players NEED something to do that's worth doing. Farming event items for exchange (NGS) or doing mundane tasked for minuscule rewards (Genshin) does not cut it. If you have a world to build, then build it.
Is there any good reroll guide?
>>944029apparently about 0.75% scaling up to 2% due to soft pity on the gold and limited banner, flat 0.3% on purple
>>944048This seems quick and easy to follow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfwB5Iry0ys
>>9440503 rolls at 0.75%, 15 mins to do it?Cancer :D
>>944072They don't want you to reroll
>>944050>>944072i rerolled with genshit's 0.6% rates that took 50 minutes per attemptyou guys are babies, after that hell this looks like a walk in the park
The mention of powercreep in most of the videos has me convinced rerolling isn't that big of a deal especially for weapons Not sure how far ahead the CN server is compared to global
So you need to create a bunch of accounts to reroll with prereg rewards?
>>944087i have experienced enough communities both in competitive pvp and gacha to know the powercreep issue has a high chance of being bullshiti have seen playerbases whip themselves into a frenzy and cry powercreep over a new character they obviously don't know how to play against, only to turn out they are the new newbie killer and barely usable at higher level playi have seen shitstorms over "blatant powercreep" because the new character kills content that was already piss easy 5% faster than the meta build ...in incredibly specific circumstances and only on paperit doesn't help in this case genshin players both here and in china are intentionally spreading misinfo to scare people
>>944088No idea, some people say you don't have to, and the prereg reward page itself says they can be claimed by anyone up to february.But some people are making prereg accounts just in case.
>>944052Very useful. Thanks!
>>943432>However rerolling for a character on the standard banner isn't worth it since you get a free SRR selector.you can reroll AND use selector to get two characters you want though.... this is quite important if for example you want to play as healer or tank
>>943731>pre-registered 50 salted accounts to reroll.you don't actually need to prereg anonthe "pre-register" rewards are for making an account before week 3
>>944139>50200, with plans to up it to 500.And I don't care either way, it would make the rerolling process smoother regardless.
>>943759>and each SR after getting 6 stars gives you 1 extra cashback tokenit's not clear whether they give you limited or standard banner tokens though
>>944142if you get them on the red banner they do give you a red token though
>>944011yes this game uses the typical gacha game balance of "everything other than ssr is completely useless except in very earlygame" but for example the SR staff and hammer are needed if you want to use healer/tank resonance early on
>>944147At least they're honest
>>944052The second half seems like a pain in the ass. I'd rather just reset at 15.
>>944155that has been the gacha model for almost a decade, the higher the rarity, the objectively better it isif anything tof is weird in that regard because anything that isn't SSR may as well not exist, the SR pulls are literally spark token filler and resonance filler and those 2 are the only rarities of weapons/characters in the gamethe middle man of a scaling ladder of rarities is cut short, you have SSRs and that's it
>>944088no, """prereg""" rewards do not require prereghttps://toweroffantasy-global.com/events/glcarnival/
>>944181>More red balls as rewards.The rolls needed for at least one Nemesis dupe drops lower and lower.I WILL max her out if possible.
I really really hope this will work on Steam deck / Linux I'm going to be so sad if it isn't
Does changing outfits costs gacha currency to do?Or is only changing character physical appearance that's not free?
So how much red rolls daily will be get?at least 1 right?
I only play gacha with all girls as playable character but I'm willing to try this one. Will the meta ever try to force me to use male chara?
>>944235you can use any character with any weapon
>>944235the chara ters are just like transmog/skins you can wear, you make your own female character and just use their moves if you want, besides its like 3 guys and 20 girls
>>944230https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGmfN8DXbccApparently about 500 per week plus events.About 3 and half reds a week.
>>944243ouch, hope events give a lot more because that seems too low after you run out of permanent rewards.
>>944247It's not as bad as it looks considering the gacha pity scales differently, you need almost only half the genshin pity once you consider the double token trick for example.And they are somewhat generous when it comes to events at least.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9OCm72HyrEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhiwe3OKo7c
>>944249does it really guarantee you the next character after losing 50/50? i could swear it was always 50/50 and the only guarantee was at 120.
>>944282it is always 50/50 but the guarantee is at 120 anyway
>>944288fuck, guess the waiting for rolling limited characters will be way longer than genshin assuming we get the same amount of rolls :(unless we get lucky by not loosing 50/50 forever
>>944296where the fuck are you getting that?from passive income alone you already get more red/limited rolls than genshit gives purple fates even if you exclude pvp rewardsit doesn't even consider tof giving way more event rewards than genshit, have you seen the latest primo rewards for events even if you scrap every single primo off the ground? it's fucking miserableand this is before considering tof vomits standard rolls at you, which results on more dupe tokens in the long run once you get max dupe SRs/4*s, meanwhile genshit is extremely stingy with standard rolls for literally no good reason given their standard is garbageand this is BEFORE considering the guarantee is at 120, not 190
>>944301well, when every resource runs out the only way to get limited rolls if by dailies, weeklies, etc, same as genshin.thats why i stated "Limited" rolls, standards characters, while good early on, they are just not the same as limited characters, which tend to play better or look better.As for everything else, i don't think is as easy as saying more dupes = better because we don't know how important they are, genshin constellations (and 5* weapons) are overkill but they may be a neccesity on ToF.
>>944308>i don't think is as easy as saying more dupes = better because we don't know how important they arei will put it this way because you clearly didn't get itlet's say you get the 4*s to max pot in tof, which is piss easy with the purple and gold banners, once you do that, if you roll on the red/limited banner and get a 4* which you already had at c6, you get extra red/limited glitter, so the guarantee drops from 120 further and further the more 4* max dupes you get, cn players say with max const 4*s the guarantee is around 100-110 even with shit luck
>>944308don't forget about your limited matrix bro.i get what you mean. this game is not genshin and it's likely that star advancements and limited matrices may be way more important than in genshin where the difficulty cap is abyss and the competition is 0.even when you have a lower character hard pity cap at 120, you may need to spend the difference or even more to make a working character that you can be satisfied with. i am still looking forward to see what it will be like on release.
>>943946Whichever one has the biggest tiddies
>>944313Let me repeat my point again. Im not saying ToF doesn't have better odds, because it does, my point is that if we receive the same amount of LIMITED rolls, it may take longer to roll on the limited banner because you roll 120 times, everytime, rolling less than 120 times every limited banner is a waste unless you are near pity and you are willing to risk losing the 50/50 and the limited currency you get.In genshin, even if you don't have enough for 160 rolls, you can still roll and try your luck which happens a lot of times, specially for f2p.There's also the point of "character value" which is harder to determine between games, in genshin as soon as you get your abbys teams, you just roll for who you like and thats pretty much it, don't know how well that applies in ToF.>>944345> i am still looking forward to see what it will be like on release.same, hope at least some whales can carry our asses in a guild so it becomes a little bit easier for F2P.
I will not be rerolling
>>944611bro but your good account seed...
>>944629Sometimes your good starting account seed leads to a bad account seed through karmic balance
>>944359I haven't been playing Genshin for a while now but did they changed anything that even say like electro comp abyss teams can destroy electro resistant enemies fast now?
10 more rolls confirmed for launch and 10 limited rolls a week after launch.https://twitter.com/ToF_EN_Official/status/1556437536322600960 some good shit now you can just do 15 min reroll and get who you want fast
>>944188You can change outfits for free, there are even a decent number of free outfits you get as exploration rewardscosts black crystals to adjust the custom colors on an outfit though iirc
>>944782>Gold nucleus Available Time: 2022/08/10 20:00~2022/08/17 17:00.>Red nucleus Available Time: 2022/08/17 17:00~2022/08/24 17:00.lol
>>944814they really do not want people rerolling for nemesis jesus
>>944774element doesn't matter that much unless its for shieldsat worst if you do little damage with electro teams, you just bring an anemo user.is not like you have to go all electro, so a sub dps can help you, you get the best pyro sun dps and her best weapon is free, so there's that.
>>944821just play every reroll account for 2 weeks, is that easy.
>>944814>>944821Asked around in the official discord and someone said that the nemesis banner will last the whole month.
>>944877>Nemesis Limited Cache>Event Time: 2022/08/11 02:00~2022/08/31 23:00.You could just read the event page.
>Global getting treated betterWill chinks get angry?
>>944957a little but only mihoyo customers turn up at HQ with knives to kill staff
>>944805>costs black crystals to adjust the custom colors on an outfitThat sounds kinda shitty. Well most people will end up using character skins anyways.
Main support or tank?
it's a modern mmo, everyone is dps
So what are the chances of this not flopping?Are the "it flopped in China" memes true?
>>944988Well judging by what anon earlier said, its revenue is on the level of arknights
>>944988Its doing in great in China on the same level as arknights, its just that Genshitters hates this game for some reason
>>944999>for some reasonOne of the reason of Genshin's success is also Mihoyo's marketing and social manipulation ability. I bet at least 20% of the people who play Genshin do it simply because it's extremely popular.Hence why it gives breed to incredibly obnoxious fans like this.
>>944988>>944999>>945002Chinese gamers tribalism is on another level.Fanboys in the global community can't compete, not even the ones from this website.
How time consuming is it?
>>945014All you get here is SEAnigger tribalism which begins and ends with 'everyone who doesn't like my game is <enemy game> shill'It's barely above console wars
so, it's possible to just use the character i create and swap between the weapons i pull, right?
>>944692skill issue, just get luckierget a good reroll but not one that is too good
>>945014ye the chink shit is insane. the fucking mass reporting of games to get them censored and shit and to get the govt to fuck with them. they go fucking hard especially the AK chinks.
Name of EU and American servers leaked.https://twitter.com/Sova_ToF/status/1556557348898045952>PauBrazil
>>945040>VascoEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! COME STAIIIIITI DISTINGUI DALLA WHALE COMUNE
>>944821It's not like that's stopping me from rerolling for her.I knew what I was getting into when rerolls were 3 reds each try.
>>945040we should play on nightfall cause its a based song
>>945040Are accounts locked to a region for global?Also, do we know where exactly the servers are located?
>>944957global already skipped 2 banners at minimumyou will need way more than this to compensate for the total red crystal loss from skipped time
>>945057>Muh saving timeFk off poorfag
My plan is to get 2 of King, Tsubasa and Samir in the 15 min reroll path and then just use selector on the other one. Could also take meryl in some sortt of combo with them too. Not even going to give a shit about nemesis just going to save all premium currency and rolls for future OP shit.
>>945040God no why are you splitting up the playerbase so much
How long till Saki Fuwa
>>945097with the changed schedule, nobody knows
>>945040How do these servers work?
>>945100>>945085>>945049Matchmaking is for the whole region. But yeah after a month or two I wouldn't be surprised if I dont see much players at all in the overworld.
>>945128What about guild
>>945100just like genshit, pick a server, no server transfers, picking a different server on the same account means starting from scratch like if it was a different save fileinside each server there's "lines" which are instances and you can freely hotswap those
>>945131What about it? If you're asking if you can join a guild on another server then it's a no.
>discordnigger posting before the game is even outi sleep
>>945138>Believing misinformation redditors are spreading while having a possibly faked screencap from a BR stream as "proof" with no other sources, not even the VOD.Wait for release, then complain about it if it's true.
>>945135>can join a guild on another server then it's a no.death sentence right there
>>945142Is this your first MMO
>>945142literally how og pso2 worked but with world instances
>>945128>Matchmaking is for the whole regionBut not for the overworld?Heh... Well I imagine matchmaking is more important
>>945040Do nips get their own servers in a different client altogether?
>>945192own server yes, different client no
>>945140The nerf thing seems true from what I've seen in other streams. They're going to try rebalance everything in global. I hope that doesn't mean everything is piss easy like g*****n.
Taking chinese games and gutting them for global is the meta the last year or so, so it would fit right in
Pvp is boring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUbTGvDqwJs
>>945224That's normal for PvP though.
Censorship fucking CN games would rule the world if they weren't CN
>>945229I wish they'd just do what Azurlane is doing and uncensor global.
>>945226the first one barely looks any differentthe second one looks like a design change given swimsuit bikini skins for the MC are already out in CN, they wouldn't exist if it was censorship
>>945235Can't uncensor what doesn't exist, most of it went in the bin as part of the model overhauls.
How hard will it be to reach the rank to get dust wheeler? Also, what are the blue crystals used to buy future chariot?
Is this game going to be censored to hell to CCP's approval like Genshin. Don't want to play a game just to have it changed and censored for not meeting cultural guidelines.
>>945239All the characters wearing skirts have shorts underneath except for Lin's second outfit.
What will actually kill the game is the Global Exclusive™ balance changes and currency nerfs
>/v/ thread gets posted>genshitters instantly start doompostinglol
>>945258Yeah I want to play Marc and Lin with all my main weapon like everyone else.
you can clearly see there's no new IPs schizo-kun
>>945247Customizable characters are harder to track down apparently.
>>945247I never understood this meme when shit like azur lane exists.It's only genshit that's the problem and only because of their mainstream appeal, they shot themselves in the foot with the normalfag pandering for money.
>>945262As long as you don't want to play Nemesis I guess
is sally nemesis?
I get buffing Claudia because physical is kinda meh but what kind of dog act is moving Nemesis forward to launch and yet nerfing her?
>>945289What's actually funny is not only there's hardly any proof of this actually happening, but also nobody seems to know what these nerfs even are.
>>945302https://twitter.com/Sova_ToFGo ask the russians on discord for more details but it's resonance nerfs across the board but some characters being given resonance who didn't have it, plus specific nerfs for characters like nemesis and huma. Saw mention of chip nerfs too but no info.
>>945320>russians>discordwas that supposed to prove your point? because that just makes it more sus
>>945326If you don't want to believe it that's fine, release is so close anyway. Russians are the biggest presence in MMOs outside of Asia though so you shouldn't be surprised.
>nemesis nerfed>samir nerfed>tsubasa nerfedshiro chads our time is now
>>945302>>945320This guy talks about all the matrices/chip nerfs and some buffs too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NellSDNrnM#t=3h59m15sI wonder if what used to be Attack/Crit getting changed to HP/Crit will make a huge difference.
>>945347isn't this the guy that's so shit at the game he could barely clear content despite having a whale account until lin released?
>>945352I wouldn't know but are you that desperate to shit on someone that proves you wrong?
Nemesis chips were nerfed so hard that 0* on CN is now 3* on global Not sure what the point of limited banners are if everything on them got gutted but whatever
I will main healer so I can just do co-op shit, press a couple of buttons from time to time and collect rewards lmao.
>>945382525% damage every 10 seconds that works in the background is stronger than any other DPS chips save for Yuekui. it's literally broken lol.
>>945320Why Huma nerf? Noone seems to care about her
>>945382At least post a picture or something.From the >>945347 video some of the nerfs he calls significant are like 10% less dmg from the matrices, then moments later he's saying Chinese players are one shotting bosses. I will just roll for who I like.
>>945394Yeah they're probably trying to avoid the retarded powercreep on CN that's why they mentioned toning down pve content numbers as well since they scaled those with broken limiteds in mind. Still don't know how it'll turn out, they fucked balance once they can fuck it again lol
>>945401called it >>944096
>>945406You didn't call anything, most old characters and chips are obsolete in China because they're objectively powercrept.
post nerf nemesis
>>945409the point is that new characters can do as much as they want, but if a maxed out king team can still make content piss easy, then all this crying is a non-issue
>>944988It's similar to Blue Archive with initial release being a complete mess but game climbing since then. The main problem is competition. You have a bunch of big Mihoyo games like Star Rail and ZZZ coming soon. New 3d Arknights too. So if ToF fails to grab a fanbase fast it's probably going to get fucked.
Wasn't Nemesis absolutely batshit broken before the today's nerf? If we can still comfortably clear content with her what's the issue?
>>945424Nobody knows, there's so much misinformation flying around thanks to genshin players that the best move is just to wait until release.
>>945420Star Rail is a epic7 copy paste and ZZZ is just honkai2 and honkai was never really popular
>>945424Completely depends on what changes they make to enemies. Enemies got crept to match powercreep in China so as long as they nerf enemies to match it'll be fine.
>>945429Mihoyo's brand guarantees they will have shitloads of players. Honkai was popular enough to fund Genshin and the main reason why it wasn't massive was the fact it needed a powerful phone and didn't have a PC client until recently. Not many people want to start games that are out for 2 years since they will be forever behind.
>>945416>Resonance in CNVolt ATK by 20% and Volt Resistance by 40%>3* in CN389% of ATK>5* in CN( 10 + Your Electrode Count × 10 ) % for 25 seconds.
>>945444the resonance is a literal nothing token nerfthe 5* will depend on how bonus atk stacks, if it's additive like genshit (and most stat heavy games for that matter) then it's also a nothingburger from 10 + (3 * 10) or 40% to 5 + (3 * 5) or 20% both at max electrodes, if equipment pieces give stats on the range of 50% or higher on top of other kinds of buff stacking the stat loss is peanutsthe only one that matters is the 3* one because it's an attack multiplier that got reduced by nearly half
>>945420>You have a bunch of big Mihoyo games like Star Rail and ZZZ coming soon. New 3d Arknights too.None of these is coming anytime soon
>>945436>Mihoyo's brand guarantees they will have shitloads of playersDoes it? Barely anyone cares for star rail and honkai is still niche as fuck, the mihoyo name did not bring in more players after the release of genshin. You misunderstand anon, people only care about genshin, not mihoyo as a whole
>volt nerfed>ice nerfed>fire and physical buffedi can't believe devs mained fire and phys all along
>>945464I recall a video on the "tierlists" in CN saying that fire is down in the dumpster, physical is above it and ice/volt are the meta, so those changes line up
>>945065kek good luck with that, enjoy the game in 6 months when you have your perfect reroll.
>>945040Why are there so many servers are they insane? They must really think there were 3m+ legit pre registers. Holy shit it's going to be a ghost land for 90% of servers in a month.
>>945472He'll chase something else now since Tsubasa has been dumpstered and Samir is nerfed.
>>945463>Barely anyone cares for star railTrailers get millions of views.
>>945479>Trailers get millions of views.Click army. now go back, here's a (you)
>>945490See you on the release. Marketing for this game is not even working yet.
>>945493by supporting star rail all you're doing is telling mhy they can keep pump and dumping games to reap millions with no effort whatsoeverthey threw honkai under the bus for genshit and now genshit is getting thrown under the bus for these new gamessee you in 2 years where these 2 new games are down the shitter and thrown under the bus for the hot new game they release, i hope you shill me that when it happens
The /vg/ threads are going to be a complete shitshow.
>>945502If you are dumb enough to go to /vg/ generals for mobage you deserve what you get.
>>945499Virtual world with one billion players in 2030.Trust the plan.
>>945493Marketing makes the game look better than it is. Seeing this, do you expect a proper turn based rpg, or an autobattler with overused formula? Do you think people will really care for the latter? Autobattlers are fine...on phones, short game sessions, do your dailies etc. This will have trouble running on most phones, so its PC only for something you alt-tab out of while the auto runs in the background
>>945474Mobile game prease understan. We must dilute the players as much as possible.
>>945510Big strong Honor of Kings plays itself and only Genshit can outearn it, we live in a post-gameplay world
>>945517Isn't honor of kings a moba?
>>945250I miss panties so much, feels like almost ever medium is starting to hide them. It's such a simple and not even very lewd thing but it adds so much character and a little bit of titillation. But we aren't even allowed that anymore. The world favors women more and more and men aren't even allowed the little pleasures.
>>945532Get lost on your way to /r9k/ buddy?
>>945533Based head in the sand poster.
>>945479Literally botted, the summer games fest trailer got 200k views in the first 2 days then on day 3 it boosted straight up to 2.1 million. What's the excuse for that one? 90% of people didn't care until day 3? Then day 4 viewership completely fell off a cliff again.ZZZs trailer was the same except it almost got a natural one million views so they only had to bot an extra million for that one on day 3.
>>945536Maybe a bit less MGTOW and a bit more global awareness and you might realize that being a Chinese woman isn't too flash either
>>945269Shut the fuck up retard, tons of games get censored it's not just genshin. Honkai was gutted as well.
>>945541MGTOW? Jesus touch grass we are talking about video games you hyper incel.
>>945532>>945536>>945546Blame normalfaggotry infecting "otaku" stuff.We warned you about this since the early 00s.
>>945546>/r9k/tard immediately has a breakdown when he has no comebackgrim
>>945532Between CCP retards and globohomos it'll just get worse, you're either going to get censored shit or censored and trannified shit.
>>945548>can't stop bringing up social media places and real life incel ideas There isn't enough grass in the world to fix you. This is a board for video games anon, if you want to talk about how hard it is being a manlet with a small penis maybe you should go back to the place you can't stop talking about.
>>945532I've been watching a lot of older romcom anime lately and I completely agree, how has this space gotten so much worse in less than 5 years that people can't even appreciate the basics anymore.
>>945302i thought there were supposed to be screenshots from the CBT showing different stats/multipliers on abilities but nobody has posted any of them so I'm convinced this shit is all made up>>945386you can do that as dps too your teammates will just hate you more
>>945550i'm sure blaming women for everything you don't like and projecting away your insecurities will get you somewhere in life
>>945560wait shit i missed this>>945416, nvmwhy the fuck were people posting about russian discords instead of just posting the screenshot
What are the chances of this game being worse than PGR?
>>945562No one said anything about blaming women, stop projecting and stop talking about real life shit. We are talking about video games and how female fanservice is still allowed while male fanservice is being taken away at every opportunity. Jesus christ some people just can't help but bring politics into every god damn space, can't you fucking leave that shit in /pol/ for once.
>>945566the guy hadn't posted them at the time
>>945568Don't see how anything could be worse than PGR. Either way the two games are nothing alike why even compare them?
>>944988It'll release two weeks before the sumeru update, it may not flop, but that will definitely affect it.
>>945570so little self awareness you couldn't even see yourself in a mirror or are you just throwing a tantrum?
>>945568100% chance PGR combat will be better, this is literally an mmo with tanks and healers.but of course PGR has absolutely 0 non combat gameplay
>>945574I play Genshin myself and I have 0 hype for Sumeru, it's going to be the same identical shit another time and with the usual subpar plotGenshin is kept alive by marketing and sunk fallacy costs.
>>945566Because some people on genshin discords have been falsifying screenshots and official page text.Like last week an image was floating around claiming they upped the cost of red balls on global.
I just hope that this game doesn't run like shit on my toaster...
>>945578I'm only hyped for the exploration which I'll be done with quickly and go back to not caring much about the game, but if genshin can steal tof's players back for a week or two it may have an impact on it.
>>945591Isn't it basically same shit as Genshin?
>>945597Not him, but while the specs are the same, I'm worried about having other players in the world with me.
>>945597One is running on Unreal 4 and the other is on Unity.God fucking knows if they did any optimization, because Unreal is shit without any.
>>945499>they threw honkai under the busThey didn't. Honkai gets more high effort stuff than Genshin. Genshin still has none of the extras Honkai is getting like anime or high budget shorts.
after watching someone stream the game i think ill go dps support healer because pubs are going to be full dps shitters who jump in and get one shot for the whole fight
>>945610You can't heal them if they get one shotted
>>945475>Samir is nerfed>Nemesis nerfedWhy am I even playing every character I liked is shit now?
>>945614Shit or non-broken?
I have never seen an ad for this game, the only reason I know about it is because of 4chan.
>>945613yeah but i can heal myself
>>945618I saw some vtubers play it.
This is your collabhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Ge4hvI13w
>>945614>Literally 5% less damage when their damage output is already on the 7 digits.>OMG THEY ARE LITERALLY SHIT NOW.Do westoids really? The nerfs are not even actually confirmed.
>>945639>incapable of reading the thread
>>945639But what if I want a character I like to be top of the meta?>nerfs are not even actually confirmed.And now you're just being retarded. They've even been datamined.
>>945604Don't open, it's dolphin porn.
>>945604I just opened it because of dolphin porn
Pre load is up. Change browsers if download link is not workinghttps://pre-release.toweroffantasy-global.com/
>>945505As opposed to reddit/discord? Yeah ok.
>>945662Did I say that?
>>945646how new are you to trust dataminers?
>>945662Probably better unless you only use /vg/ for the links in thread op
The only game with shit dataminers/leakers is genshin so yes I trust them as long as they are not from that game
>>945667Do you have another alternative? >>945673Go back then.
>>945673Lmao no, /vg/ generals are basically twitch chat, and discord servers are faster /vg/ generals.Do the math.
>>945679Yes, play the game.
>Shiro>Meryl>Claudia>LinThe girls in this game are top tier.
>>945690>no rubyshit list
Lack of porn kills my interest in the characters.
>>945695You fucking retard, the game isn't even out yet in Japan.
>>945700and even then there's some porn in pixiv already
download speed plummeting as more people pile onrip servers when the game actually launches
Bros the game isn't even out yet, why are you people already this angry?
I HATE GENSHIN
>>945717if you haven't noticed, it's the usual genshitters shitposting after waking up, it happens daily at this pointburger hours started 3 hours ago after all
never a bad time to be angry
>>945718This but unironically, the game had a lot of potential only to shit the bed and rack in millions regardless.Glad I saw the writing on the wall by like 1.2 and quit before wasting too much time into it.
the moment the link got posted in the official discord you could watch the download speed tick down in real time
>>945736>plebbitors and discorders ruin everything againunsurprising
Will we be able to do the character creation immediately once this client downloads?
>>945620Nice, I'll follow your example.
Do we have a specific server we're landing on or is everyone just going solo?
Why does their website not have a predownload link? I don't trust the ones being posted here.
>>945736How long will it take for discordtrannies to finish downloading?
>>945657looks like bait, why is the url different?
>>945717The moment you stop being angry is the moment you get taken advantage of. Always be angry, from the second you wake up to the second you fall asleep.
>I don't trust the official websitesounds like the official discord is the place for you pal
>>945754I hope we at least get a /vmg/ guild going on EU
official discord has progressed to fear mongering to try and stop people downloading
>>945769>spoilerthere's probably just like 3 of us bro
>>945759Because it's just another page for testing purposes that is meant to replace the original one when the preload was supposed to become available. It's on the same host as the official site after all.
Why say 10th launch if it's actually the 11th? What global country is 3 days from now still the 10th?
>>945770Basically they got the client from their official domain so its safe but it's not official and we don't know if that can get you banned or anything
>>945269Azur lane is a shadow of it's former self.
>>945604>download and run it>it creates two empty foldersIs my computer going to explode now?
Let me guess. Once you pick a server you're there forever.
and this is why you don't trust leakerswhat a fucking shitshow
>>945776That's more than enough.
>>945436That's what people said about nintendo annd cygame's dragalia's flop.
>>945787No it's just chinese mobage developer programmingTry running it again, installing it on a different drive, or giving up
>>945792>it's the leakers fault the download is slowinteresting take
Damn I am cheesed that I fell for the "comes out on the 10th" scam. I should have known it wouldn't be the 10th for burgers.
>>9458082 days 20 hours awaythat's 3 days anon
>>945811Yeah before I noticed the timer everyone was saying it was coming out on the 10th.
>>945657is this real or am I wasting bandwidth until the official preload client comes out forcing another 20GB download?
>>945815Fake. It's an outdated version of the beta. Don't bother
>>945815It's dolphin porn, don't download
>>945814https://toweroffantasy-global.com/news-detail.html?content_id=3c674757a9469a4dc8ab961a0155f1264753learn your fucking timezones>August 10th , 2022(PDT)>PDT>Pacific Daylight Time, UTC -7
I can't handle this anymore, I want Nemesis already.I see her sad on the page with the timer and just want to make her happy.
>>945830Cool beans, burger time is the only time that matters though since euros never spend any money or play games so they should have just said the 11th.
>>945836This, but with Meryl.
>>945727Literally same. I quit at the snowy mountain update lol. It's funny coz I used to play 10 - 15 hours a day for two months straight. All of that for nothing
Nice, looks like you can create guest accounts. No need to salt emails when you can bind it to a google account after you're done rerolling.
>>945862That was what burned me out too.I didn't play it as religiously, but I did reroll for Keqing it took over 120 rerolls IIRC so that still stings.
>>945869Where did you find this out? RIP anon with 200 accounts if real.
>>945875>RIP anon with 200 accountsH-heh, at least I only made 30
>>945869At this point I don't trust any information not on the official website or official twitter.>>945875Don't care, still making 500 prereg accounts to reroll for Nemesis.Currently at 320 by the way.
>>945879based king of schizos
Considering I'm going to save until Ruby, should I pick King for the flame resonance?
>>945892if you're going to save that hard, don't spend your selector ticket until you roll a lot, you may get him with those free rolls
>>945875download and run the launcher.registering new accounts is fast as fuck, can even use temp emails and there's an account center for binding to google/facebook/apple etc on the top right after you've created an account.
>>945892cobalt b might be a better fit.
>>945898Is she even out?
>>945604why not link to the actual page insteadhttps://pre-release.toweroffantasy-global.com/
>>945639>>Literally 5% less damagenemesis total damage buff was nerfed from 50% to 30%nemesis is not used for her personal damage she is used to buff other meta volt weapon
>>945908Thats the old beta retard
>>945837So? Burgers don't spend the same amount of money on gacha as seaniggers, your opinion doesn't matter either.
>>945904button wasn't working properly when i posted it
>>945791correct, no server transferssome party content can work cross-server apparently? but guilds do not
>>945862>>945872You only have yourselves to blame for treating the game like a job.
>>945893The gold nuclei we get, are they like the standard banner blue balls in Genshin? So I can't use them for Ruby's banner?>>945898I don't think she's in the selector? Will she get on the standard banner?
>>945921gold balls are standard banner, purple balls are the cheap standard banner full of upgrade mats and SRs, red balls are limited bannercobalt-b and claudia will probably not be in the game at launch. they were the first two limiteds in CN and added to standard later on
>>945921>The gold nuclei we get, are they like the standard banner blue balls in Genshin? So I can't use them for Ruby's banner?gold balls are standard rolls, can't use them on ruby's banner, but you get dark crystals to buy red rolls like primosyou can however, save standard roll token/glitter and buy ruby dupes when she hits standard
Are all matrices farmable, or are some gacha exclusive only?
>>945933Some are gacha only.
>>945925>>945927I see, thanks anons.
>>945917I hate that. Nothing worse than staring a game choosing a server then learning it's either dead or full of shitters and weirdos. Being stuck there unable to jump ship unless you pay.
>>945950Wait a few hours before starting then, that'll at least solve the dead server problem.
Nemesis chip difference>CN2 piece heal gives atk buff 15%/18%/21%/25% for 20 seconds4 piece deal 300%/375%/450%/525% of volt ATK once every 10 sec>Global2 piece heal gives atk buff 8%/10%/12%/15% for 20 seconds4 piece deal 240%/300%/360%/420% of volt ATK once every 10 sec
>>945959I mean down the line. servers can drop in user activity or god forbid turn into erp servers
Higher than expected, that's nice I guess
>>945960>2 piece>4 pieceIs this literally Genshin? kek
>>945961How do you even erp in this game, is the chat not censored to shit?
>>945961I wonder if they'll merge servers after a while if there's some who became ghost towns, surely that would be more cost effective than keeping them separate, right?
genshin invented gear sets
>>945982That's pretty much given.
genshin invented MMOs
genshin invented anime
>>945982I just hope they are quick at merging servers
>>945981If you have chats, lobbies, common areas, private messaging, etc you will have ERP. >>945982Some MMOs will do this but some won't because they're run by shitters or don't care since they're making money anyway. Example PSO2:NGS. Has servers that are pretty much dead and others that are full and active. They won't merge dying or dead servers. EU servers literally have one server and is pretty much considered abandoned.
What will be the 4chan server
>>945532same bro, i dont even know when it stopped being a thing but i still remember how people freaked out because one of the devs for ff agito documented all the process that went into each girl's panties and that dev was a woman
>>945995Maybe the first server in the list will be the most active?
>>946052Do we even know the capacity for each one?Even if has the most registrations, it could be full at all times
tofsisters i am in trouble...
>>945980>genshinthose chips only come from equipment gacha, they aren't farmablethis is honkai stigmatabut much worse as you need 4 dupes for each slot to actually max out the chip's passive.
I just watched some pvp and who has that bs shield that's up all the time?
>>946091I don't know since they seemed to be using their OCs and I'm not familiar with the weapons, I just saw a white bar and the other guy having a hard time, though it was apparently because of lag and being an old video, maybe they balanced pvp later.
>>946073we told you it was an outdated beta client, retard
>>945914Burgers spend more money than all other global regions combined. We are the only reason global servers exist.
>>946149yes anon, when cn gacha release globally jp tends to be bundled in with global
>>946152japan is never considered part global in any gacha I have played before they almost always have their own servers.
Since this is basically an mmo that means you will be walking forward quite a lot. In any real mmo they have an auto walk key you can toggle to make your character continuously walk until you toggle it or do something else. Saves a lot of pain holding down a key for hours on end especially for ojisans like me. I have heard that this game won't have it unfortunately because gacha devs never think of this issue. So I put together a script in autohotkey to serve the same function. You can change the "f" key to whatever key you would like and it will hold down "w" until you press it again. I also added a toggle to pause the script "f1" if you need to type or something or just want to turn it off for a while. Hope this helps anyone suffering from life long gameritis. toggle := truereturnf1::toggle := !toggle ;inverts toggle 0>1>0>1 etc.#If togglef::RepeatKey := !RepeatKeyIf RepeatKey SetTimer, SendTheKey, 100 ; The "100" here is the number of milliseconds between repeats.Else SetTimer, SendTheKey, OffReturnSendTheKey:SendInput wReturn
>funserver buffs/nerfsshits cap bruh, deadass skip for me fe
Hit 400 prereg accounts.I just realized I could have done this with macros.
>>946208Or you could just not do it at all and channel your autism into something useful.
i would rather fap all day to futa on male than do thirld world slavery account botting
>>946228Indeed I could have, but I don't care.I want Nemesis.
And there it is, 500 prereg accounts.I feel no sense of accomplishment, I'm just sad the timer is still at 2 days and 13 hours, it feels like forever.
>the genshitter spread of misinformation with the preload leak got so bad the devs had to post a notice clarifying multiple thingsthe absolute fucking state of the global fanbasehttps://www.toweroffantasy-global.com/news-detail.html?content_id=fd10b1f3acfb6a4645a9adaa37764a9a704d
Interested in playing this game. But the only mmo like game I've played is Genshin. Any place where I can find an objective review or summary of this game?
>>946400>Any place where I can find an objective review or summary of this game?Lol.Lmao even.I'm not joking, you basically can't, genshin players have muddled the waters so much it's impossible to find accurate information about the game at this point.Just wait until launch and give it a try if you're interested, it's in 3 days and it's free anyway, just drop it if you don't like it.
>>946400>mmo like>GenshinIs this bait?
>>946365Can you shut up the fuck up about these "genshitters"?
>>943848I much prefer PSO2's gameplay over designed for retards NGS gameplay. I will check out ToF.
>>945499>threw honkai under the bus>honkai still gets more players in CN than ToF
>>945568this made less than PGR in CN last month and costs 10x more to make and is 2 years newer
Are there more player outfits and hair styles in CN? Messing around in character creator in preload and I'm not big on most of the clothes.
>>946551Hairstyles should be the same but there are more clothes unlocked with exploration, events or gacha later.
>>946551Here's two videos I found showing the outfits and accessories:https://youtu.be/qMBdGJbxkjghttps://youtu.be/xlMyPYhYcd4
What's the equivalent of welkins and battle pass for this game?
Practically all chinese games have the exact same approach to monthly and battle passes
>>946775>all the generic and ugly cosmetics are free>chunk of nicer cosmetics come in the higher tier battle pass>good looking cosmetics are gacha or spending event onlyf2pbros...
Is there a ping/latency overlay in-game?Also where exactly are the servers located? i.e. is NA Canada or US, west or east?Wtf is Asia Pacific? Japan? Australia?
>>946822Japan and Korea you stupid nigger
>>946789>spending eventOh its not an actual event reward? thats gay. Liked some of the regular costumes more anyway but some variation wouldve been nice.
>>946834Then which one is it? Japan or Korea? If you're just guessing don't reply, you retarded nigger.
>>946548not according to the chart from before
Who do I reroll for to be a support main?
>>946890Coco, you'd wanna slot the SR healer in as well for reso.
>>946551>Messing around in character creator in preloadHow?
Why do we not have a /vg/ general? Majority of the player base will be on PC like Genshin no?
>>946916The game isn't out yet retard
>>946916Why? are you excited to see the shitshow. /gig/er will raid that shit round the clock.
>>946924/gig/ is basically the new /alter/, you can't escape them so fuck it
>>946867Both you stupid fuck
rerolling is going to suck. genshin accounts didn't need an email so you could spam them really fast. i'm too fucking lazy to email spam.
>>946916The first /vg/ thread got created 3 hours ago and it's mostly rabi or genshin spam.
I don't have any tof images, so i only use what's available, prease understandu
>>946911Sorry, I forgot to reply, but all you do is download the preload, open the game and click presets in the corner.
Someone upload the launcher please...
1st thread in vg, raided by /gig/er arguing about tranny and hrt. Nice start
keep /vg/ in /vg/ please
I hope we keep having /vmg/ threads for proper discussion about the game. All civil discussion goes to die in /vg/ threads
as long as people don't just come here and raid it with /vg/ bullshit just like /gig/ is doing to them, of course a thread can exist here. everyone just has to ignore mentally ill posters trying to start shit here because unlike /vg/ they'll be the minority and will only derail the thread if you let them
is there a place i can check to see which server will have the most english speakers in eu? i might just go to a na server if people haven't made any plans for it, i refuse to play with frenchs and turks
>Tsubasa recommended for her EnhanceNot sure if I'm understanding this correctlyYou're supposed to roll 3/6 dupes, move into melee range with a long-range weapon, Dodge Attack for a 15s 15%/25% Enhance, then switch to your main weapon?
>spend 2 hours making my character>click on default button>resets all my changesAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>947040should've just clicked undo
>>947037Ignore any guides made more than 24 hours ago, global is getting it's own balance changes and Tsubasa for example was nerfed
>>946778from what i understand from some ecelebs, there's only one pass but has everything you normally get in multiple passes
>>947046fuck im a retard, well whatever i made something that looks better this time anyways
>>947037>>947049More like ignore any guides, period.Genshit is an extremely simple game yet guides managed to give out hilariously misleading an awful advice and still do it to this day, proving EOPs are really fucking bad at video games.
phys XL is soul along with free ayaka at lvl 40
>>946778>>947050standard chinese approach
Can't wait to fail dungeons with xXx666Bl00dyItachixXx
>>947066>tummyslut outfit on pass+Please tell me there's a tummyslut outfit for f2p somewhere, really don't want to pay gachajews
>>947071have a look through >>946775
>>946775>that swimsuitbros I
>>947049Mind telling me how she was nerfed?Looking at the cons all I'm seeing is that global got 5%x3 dmg increase instead of 8%x3 and her chips is irrelevant since they're not even her recommended chips.
>>947081Nice, there's one as a reward for completing the first map. Surprised that there's several outfits as rewards for various stuff, thought they'd paywall fun stuff harder.
>>947092Nobody will really explain you how the nerfs affect anything, because doing so will mean admitting said nerfs don't affect the average player at all, ruining the fearmongering.It's all tweaked numbers on chips and the dupes/constellations, which you are not going to get unless you REALLY like Nemesis and are a gigawhale.
>>947092Nerfing a 40% buff to 25% is pretty damn significant considering buffs are multiplicative
>>947107>considering buffs are multiplicativeproof?
>>947096Telling people to ignore dumbfuck tierlists based on a different server is not fearmongering.
>>947110you should be ignoring tierlists regardless because if you played any gacha before you would know those tierlists are made for utter retards by utter retards that can't do math
>>947109Seems to be the standard understanding on CN>https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=30351203>3.4 伤害计算>游戏中所有伤害是乘法关系,之前说得武器得增伤BUFF,源器得增伤效果,食物得增伤都是乘法计算,所以累得越多伤害越爆炸
>>947117>NGA.Ah shit it's going to be the Arknights meta all over again.
>>947117how new are you to trust nga?
Is there a character based around counterattack mechanics? No parry no play.
Everyone should just move to the /vg/ thread
They're dumb to only allow pre-load a day before release, people will spend half a day just downloading, they should've allowed it two days before release minimum.
>>947182>Half a dayNigger just say you have a shit internet. Everyone can download a 20gb file size in 2hours
>>947187>telling anyone they got shit internet when you need 2 whole hours to download 20gbslmao
>>947187Did you miss people complaining yesterday about the download slowing down as more people started doing it? Sure, I can download 20gb fast if the speed is stable, but if it's getting slower because a lot of people are downloading it at the same time, then it's not my internet's fault.
>>947194They already fixed the bandwidth issue capping you at 1mb/s, retard.>>947192It's not an exact estimation, my bad, but I have a 400mbps download speed
>>947194>>947195people were also overloading a server not even fully setup yet for the preloadspeople are retards
>>947195>They already fixed the bandwidth issue capping you at 1mb/s, retard.Now, but who knows if that will be the case when they open pre-load officially.
>>947182Who cares, anyone who actually wants to play the game already has it downloaded by now
>>947198The first 3 or so days will be a shitshow regardless when it comes to connection issues and download speeds.Keep your expectations low and beeline for your daily rewards if you dc too much.
I plan to rerolling, does this game use Player ID or not and can I rename my character later for free? thank you bros.
>>947203>does this game use Player IDyes, but it displays that as character name anyway like genshit, it's retarded>can I rename my character later for free?yes but costs dark crystals according to ecelebsprepare for the worst with so much eceleb misinfo floating around though
>>947203renaming costs a small amount of currency, if you want to be meta you can use your intended name every time and if the reroll is shit, use currency to rename to garbage
Storage size for android version? same 20GB as PC client?
Does it run on Win7?
>>947372It's an asian MMO so probably
>>947372min specs says yes.
OC donut steel
>>947516How are you already in?
>>947523it's been up on jp for almost 12 hours
>>947523no game yet, but you can create character so you could start right away when it launches.
>>947516for me its undead
reminder that there are twitch drops for this game
>Middle hair doesn't work with 2/3rds of the costumes>Constantly clips through chest for the 1/3 that does work
With I could make legs little shorter otherwise not too bad of a character creator.
>>947685the male icon is kinda throwing me off