In which we bid farewell to our favorite little big clown girl after two long years of pranks and honking, goodbye Igohmal, thanks for the lollipops.On other news, the second anniversary GL celebrations go on and the new banners are fresh outta the oven.
Alright, got Ginny and Rich with just 5700 jewels, gotta stop here, I'd really pull more for Wil but it's not worth it when the Unlimited banner's next and I want everyone in there.Time to see how much will the other banner take, hopefully Emilia and Alkaiser don't run away too much.Best of luck to you bros.
what the fuck, conquest gives a GLEX Welfare Alkaiser?
Posted in ded thread>>882963Oof, my girl Emmie always makes me pay. She came on the 14th pull but I got the other three along the way. Alkaiser on the 5th pull, ZEKE and Mei-ling came together on the 6th. She REALLY made me pay. Only have a measly 11k jewels now, so I'll depend on the conquest jewels to get me back up to 45k for ITOKEN.>>882978Looks like this welfare Alkaiser adds nothing except Ki Meditation which I don't see myself using on him. Al-Phoenix can be amp'd to go from 10 to 8 BP, S to SS damage and gain the Fast tag. Am I right to assume it's not worth it 'cause he always wants to be using Punishing Fist anyway?
Since both banners will last 20 days, I'm going to wait a little to decide if I should pull
>>882992If you have Punishing Combo there's no point in having Al-Phoenix+, unless you need a sun nuke in an AGI spot of course, Ki Meditation is a decent skill though, might come in handy in the future.
>>882994That's the smart thing to do. My mind was made up last year 'cause faves, so I dove in deep like a crazy fella.>>882996Got it, thanks!
the main town looks sweet
>>883004Yeah, Prefecture collabs are so soulful. I love that they bothered to make the event stamina pots onsen milk instead of just changing the color of the liquid in the vial like normal. Makes me wanna rewatch Zombieland Saga, which I still think would be the best collab if this game ever had collab characters.
>>883006You're not the only one out there who wants Zombieland SaGa.
>>883008Fucking wonderful, saved
well at least i got some units to train by the fifth will have to wait for more gems and probably hit pity
>>882994I got Emelia and Alkaiser because they have a previous GLEX style. I'm waiting until the end of this month and then pulling on SF2 for the entire thing because I like all of those characters.Hope they release a bundle with ITOKEN because otherwise that style isn't coming into my hands. And I still have that sense of deja vu that they've got more shit in the works to induce a nightmare.
>spreadsheet maker got to max score in weapon team fights recently>still angry over the bullshit that is axesive mcfucking had it
>collect SF1 and SF2 characters>EIGHT characters to pull fori've got a bad feeling about this
>>883278>SF banner>two Zekes>one Alkaizer>one Emelia>one Mei ling >thirteen rolls>SF2 banner>two ginny>three wil>five rich>one cody>fourteen rolls>had 135k jewels now 57kow i hope there's not too many crucial pick ups coming out soon
>>883296Not for awhile. Hell none of these banners are crucial either. You're rolling exclusively out of love here.
>>883296Not really, unless heavy buffs happen the more notable characters from the next twin banners are Ruby, Iskandar, Nacht Zweiger and maybe Skya, none of them are must pull unless you're missing out on one of the niches these styles offer.Ruby's an excellent INT Heat ST Nuker, one of the very best in her field, Iskandar's Hector but better in every possible way, Nacht is the best AoE Blunt farming machine while Skya's one of the best BP batteries in the game and really nice for bow sims as a result.People make a big deal out of Itoken but he's not important either, he's a good buffer and has a really nice 5BP party heal, but only really needed for mace sims, he does ZERO damage and his party buffs aren't as comprehensive as Matriarch, and unless GL changes that his banner is also pretty garbage outside of him so it's a tough fishing session to swallow.
2 units across 2 banners I want.>Gems 13kRed or RichF
>>882978I'm blind, where do I find welfare gibs?
I totally forgot Ginny has access to Petra Delta+, I guess she's a bit more versatile than I've thought, no Earth SS hammer is gonna hurt her a bit though.>>883429It will be gold pieces drop from the raid boss
>>883368Nta, but I think I'm gonna try to skip until the SaGa fest, the most important set of banners in the game for me. Maybe I can grow my 11k to 90k by then.>>883483I believe the conquest notice mentioned an SS club and SS fist as rewards. Maybe the club is earth for Ginny? Could see it being fire for Wil too. Fire/earth like Macha's staff would be extremely based, but I doubt we're that lucky.
>>883596Who are you saving for? I'm in the gem mines now for Red.
>>883596The club is Fire attuned, it's for Wil, not Ginny.Doesn't matter much since Rensei is coming soon to GL anyway, it's a minor annoyance.And yeah, if you don't need anybody to cover something from the nest twin banner it would be wise to save up, the classic SaGa banners are also not too far away from now and Megami is a pretty good investment even without considering possible buffs or change.I'm personally gonna skip Itoken's banner since I'm at 51K and will probably go broke soon, I'd like to save for some of the later banners as I've got Kami, Megami and LDS on my sights as personal favorites.
>>883617The entirety of SaGa 1/2/3, the FFL trilogy are the only SaGa games I've beaten to completion and some of my favourite GB games. Last summer I somehow got the luckiest I've ever been and got everyone across the four (I think it was four) banners with only having to go to pity once. My goal in this game is to get all the styles from those three games.Gonna be buying one of the biggest jewel packs to help, debating on whether I should buy the one on sale during anniversary now or wait and see if there's a sale during SaGa Fest.Good luck getting Red! My goal would be a lot easier to save for if this game didn't make me love a lot more SaGa characters like him.>>883619>FireDamn, poor Ginnybros. I have all her other styles but had to skip this one, sadly.>if you don't need anybody to cover something from the nest twin banner it would be wise to save upWhat niches does that banner cover? Only weapon groups I need to shore up a bit are bow and s.sword, only element that needs improvement is pierce and for debuffers, I could use a second DEX or WIL one but aren't in too much of a hurry to get one.I wanted to pull for ITOKEN solely because I love his music, but I definitely don't need his style so that might be a skip too.
>>883630I already made a post about the next twin banner but only the more notable characters, to make a slightly more comprehensive qrd though:>RubyOne of the very best INT Heat ST DPS out there, although lacking top tier skills like Crimson Flare+ or the Polka family special Scattered Explosions, has a neat odd/even turn passive that buffs her AGI/INT, also has a Saruin tier coinflip for +2BP and max ATK boost for 1 turn>IskandarSTR frontliner tank with a strong T1 nuke, constant self buffing and a self heal lloop, think the recent UDX Hector but better at everything, probably the best meatshield in the game outside of Mask.>LauraBasically NY Golden Lion but with max provoke for 4 rounds and an AoE deflect pierce counter and a shitload of counter damage multipliers, very niche but easily the best at her job, can out DPS Fish Forneus with ease, her only issue is that her deflect skill is a stance, so it doesn't go off on AUTO.>Ventus25% coin flip spear DPS, can chase with a SSSS tier pierce nuke by using any skills other than his skill 3, highly unstable, has the same odd/even turn self buffs as Ruby at least>SelmaST rapier pierce nuker, her original kit is a mess though so I expect some reworks.Her strategy is to spam her skill 2 nuke for constant DEX buffing on long fights, but has two dead passives that prevent her from being good.>NebelsternVery simple, no gimmick spear ST DPS unless reworked, that's it>Nacht ZweigerDora style turn 1 bunt farmer, probably the best thing in this banner, hits really hard on T1 and maybe T3 for blunt, has recoil, does nothing other than this however, pure farm style.>SkyaBow user with a really nice 5BP skill that self heals AND gives 1BP to everyone, also has Meiling's Vivify for a 25% change of getting those 5BP back in a turn, also has a 35% deflect passive iirc
>>883667thanks for the qrd and damn, they both sound tempting in the sense that I could definitely skip but if I got them I'd see some nice improvements, especially to my weaker elements and weapons. But yeah, nothing mandatory so I guess I can relax a little.
>>882951>clown is sealed in the AbyssPerhaps we'll see her again some day. At the very least, she should be able to be summoned as an Otherworld Warrior like Byunei and the rest. Playable clown when?
>>883691Honestly none of these styles are particularly important.Ruby's real good, but if you got Clown dad stacked with his key styles you don't really need her right now, later on you can also invest in Onyx if you want a more russian roulette style of INT heat DPS, she's not as consistent as Ruby but is still one of the more competent people in the niche.Iskandar is pretty nice but honestly doesn't see a lot of use because other people are better at cycling damage even if they can't soak as much damage as he does.Laura doesn't see a lot of use either outside of her niche, in which she's admittedly god tier, but it's not like you need her to deal with certain tower stages, there's other people who can cover that niche, not as well as her but also not that worse than she is.Ventus is just too unreliable to be considered good, it's only worth it when we're considering Matriarch strats for buff stacking and even there you'd had better people for the job.Selma's plain mediocre to bad unless big buffs happen.Nebelstern just exists.Nacht is really nice but again, you can live without if you have other people like Coppelia or Alkaiser, they're not as efficient but fill the niche just fine.Skya is tempting and fairly unique at what she does but again, a niche support choice.>>883757A bit later down the line actually
Holy moly that fight against Macha on Floor 190. GLEX Asellus wasn't enough, I had to bring in Zozma too for double Mirage Step spam. Seemed like her minions were the worst part, I could breathe easy after they went down. If I have to fight her again on Floor 200, I'll be pushed to my limits.>>883779That's good news!
Oof, now I see what the guy in the last thread said about a DEX debuffer being mandatory to pass Floor 191. GLEX Undine can spam her DEX debuff every turn to keep the boss in check, the problem is the two adds. I can't aoe DEX debuff so I'm sort of stuck. I wonder if Baum-chan could make the squad tanky enough to survive.
I'm so fucking tilted. Fuck this worm. I will forever be buttmad I don't have Byunei's 3rd SS style. I must abandon my climb at 191.Desert Lance EX with Mariah/Mat/Undine/PWR/Schirach (Incense) got me halfway through, but it inevitably falls apart from rng.
>>883182Seriously? I guess it is fine if he was stuck one trash weapon type.Any Japanese server players who got max score here also? Is it that bad that it takes half a year to complete?
A pixel away from killing Romancing Ludwig, I know I can do this with enough resets. Has anyone beaten the 2 special Ludwig fights where you need to use characters from certain series? This fight is hard enough as it is, I can't imagine not being able to use Asellus and Barbara on the same team.
Yes, beat Romancing and beat the RS1/RS2/RS3 stage! Didn't expect it to be easier than the one that let me bring Asellus, but the three latest GLEXs worked out great. Really happy I could use my girl Ellen too.Back to the drawing board with this last SF1/SF2/SSG/SaGaRS stage. Asellus is a lock and Madeline too for damage, but I don't know who else to use. Probably Elysed too.
And boom, there we go. White Rose mostly doled out heals (primarily to Maddy but one to Elysed to revive her). Elysed spammed her s2 whenever she had 6 BP, Lighting+ for filler. Maddy spammed Luna Fulgar. I still don't have UDx Urpina (one of my top 3 regrets) so the best single target move I had for her was Doppelgangers+ which was all she used. Asellus started with a 0 BP kick so she could use her s3 on turn 2 (it's necessary for her to fish 1 counter on that turn to phase change). Then she used Rising Nova+ whenever she was able. OD ftw.
>three shy of perfectionree
>>883965based bootyman
What should I do with Emelia's skills? I have all her styles. I'm looking at the inherit suggestions on the reddit review and he's talking about amping Trick Shot and Random Shot as well as mentioning Total Shot and Bullet Dance. I figured I'd just inherit Bullet Dance vs single target and Bolt Thrower for aoe.
>>883990Random Shot would make for slightly more efficient AoE cycling I guess.Bullet Dance is the obvious choice because it leads to pretty great ST DPS on this Emilia.Wouldn't use Bolt Thrower on this Emilia at all if ask me, I'd just stick to GLEX Emilia because she has superior damage passives, coin flips for two bolt throwers in a row are simply better too, if she gets the coin flip the AoE damage is Saruin/Gerard tier which means Emilia just handles anything on the screen on her own, which is big, Pref Emilia just can't do that.
>>883996Thanks, so I'll use her latest style with Bullet Dance on single target fights and stick with good ol' GLEX for aoe.
hurry kill the crab soup
>>884026mmmmmm Crabmpell soup
Just like last year, the boss sprites and attacks are so great
>>884080Yeah it's terrific
Boy that All in Pierce skill on cody is terrible.Oh well, she'll make a great multithruster though.
Fuck off everyone who said that Bertrand is a meme style, this guy is so useful in both AoE and ST conquest farming
>>884556they didn't say he was a meme style. They said he has no future. And he doesn't. But they failed to mention the fact that he's by far the best farming style in the game with nobody else coming even remotely close.
>>884565Eh, he's good but not really the best farming character in the game at all, especially since you need two of his styles to actually make him work at all in the first place.Like everything in the game he's worthless if he can't hit weaknesses and also kill something to get the BP refund necessary for him to spam Frost Quake over and over, he's strong and with a virtually flawless rotation if you got both of his styles, but the actual content where you can use Bert to his fullest just isn't there in terms of frequency.Compared to characters who only need one style to have similar performance (Saruin, GLEX Emilia, GLEX Azami) and also have a future, it's understandable why Bert gets a bad rap, even in this conquest's context, Saruin with Destructive Blow is just as efficient and can carry four trainees on his shoulders.
>>884587>Saruin with Destructive Blow is just as efficientFor two waves sure. Bert covers 3 waves and has more elemental coverage. Nobody else can do 3 waves solo like he can in 3 actions.Needing additional styles, while indeed a demerit, is hardly big enough to take away what he has. Which is his status as an extremely efficient farmer.
The fact that Mei-ling hasn't learned her s3 by now almost feels like a glitch.
>>884556i didnt have any gems to roll his first style or else i woulda got him
>>884640I don't know, Frost Quake is cold/shadow, hardly more elemental coverage than people like Saruin since both are double attribute farming, not to mention Frost Quake is a B power spell (effectively an A with his passives but still) while more and more people are starting to rock A power wipes with comparable power passives.Bert's thing is, if you do get the content where he can enforce his 3 round rotation with Frost Quake and effectively do a one man show he's great, but said content is far too rare for him to really shine, the vast majority of the time you'll be doing two men carries for three stages.Don't get me wrong, he's one of the more efficient farmers in the game even without his best case scenario, just not what I'd call the best, and severely hampered in terms of worth due to the aforementioned issues, one of which is a literal death sentence.>>884688It's a tech, so if Meiling gets stuck casting Heat Wave+ over and over she won't roll the dice for tech learning as she's automatically put in a casting state.
>>884703>It's a tech, so if Meiling gets stuck casting Heat Wave+ over and over she won't roll the dice for tech learning as she's automatically put in a casting state.OMG I'M RETARDEDThank you Anon, I'm gonna go KAMIKAZE-Crush myself
>>884587I regret not pulling for Saruin, I stopped because I got Neidhart on my first multi and every time I get lucky early I have to go to pity for the other good style
>>884711>and every time I get lucky early I have to go to pity for the other good styleCan't blame ya there, I'm the exact same way. And usually I ignore that warning to my own detriment.
>>884703frost quake is cold shadow, abbadon (yeah I know but it's there) is fire shadow. He's got three elements. Abaddon (yeah I know) is 2 turns only. The main point is his loops, he's extremely effective at them and there are multiple characters that can assist regardless of type. >the vast majority of the time you'll be doing two men carries for three stages.That's never been a point of contention. He's the only one who has enough juice in his tank to be a major contributor for all 3 waves.Nobody else does that, they all simmer out by wave 3 or have to skip wave 2.This is the entire reason he's been 3/4 traineeing everything.I don't care about Bert though. Unless he gets a GLEX (and if he doesn't during the robin banner he won't ever period) I neither need nor care about any of his styles.
>>884711Saruin's a really good style but he's going to be heavily powercrept soon, even though when it comes to T2/3 for shadow/heat he'll still be very relevant as long as he get his coinfilp, the only people who can output that kind of massive raw AoE damage are are still uncommon, outside of Saruin only GLEX Emilia and Gerard can drop a full field 100K+ bomb, and the upcoming Kami 3 I guess but if he's kept as he was in JP he'll need to get TWO coinflips for that kind of damage.Gerard's also really good for grinding stages in this conquest as there's lots of undeads that will get melted on T2, don't have to worry about stray dullahans taking more time than needed.>>884721Ah yes, if we consider Abaddon Hands sure, he does have more coverage than the average styles, I wasn't considering that at all because it didn't factor in a 3 stage rotation.And in Bert's defense, Abaddon Hands will be amplifiable too eventually so it becomes an A power fast, which is pretty good.
>>883667>>883779Fug, I just remembered that Nacht is a mecha, and I always pull for mecha. Probably gonna have to be the first one that I skip, hopefully it gets a rerun before Super Mecha Festival hits global.
Anywhere to see a list of all JP banners that's up to date?I used to use this >https://romasaga.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B5%E3%82%ACRS%E3%82%AC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81%282021%EF%BD%9E2022%29But it seems to have stopped updating Nov 2021.I tried checking altema and gamerch but could only find info on current banners there.
>>884766https://nao-romasaga.github.io/stylecheck.html
How does the scaling in conquest work? I can barely do 3-4 nodes and get my shit pushed in the rest of the map.
>>884772Thank you! Time to plan out my pulls for the next year in vain, 'cause global gonna global.
>>884779The nodes scale according to your party's CP level iirc, the enemy batches are also randomly selected from a list instead of being fixed like event/main stages
Barrage Program's a lot of fun. Just pop pop pop, watchin' niggas drop.
>>884973Any way I can cheese it to complete the nodes? Like putting one or two low CP dorks in?Been playing for less than a week, sorry for the dumb question.
>>885167If you get all four shots it's pretty crazy, despite Zeke's low damage multipliers, one of the strongest nukes in the game easily>>885366No worries, it's pretty evident.Since the game readjusts enemy scaling to your CP you'll actually want to put the best people you've got, it's better to be at your best possible comp than trying to cheat, and you can always retry as many times as you like.This conquest has enemies that are mostly weak to slash, fire, blunt and sun, so working around that is a good idea, depending on your best team you might want to actually focus on either single enemy nodes or mobs, albeit unfortunately tricks that used to work in the past like IK abuse are not reliable anymore, especially in this conquest where a lot of mobs are undead too, but in single enemy nodes you might get away with at least one IK out of two.Worse comes to worst, grind Main a bit until you can grind a node comfortably, Conquest is goona last quite a few days so there's no hurry.The hardest part of the game is right when you start, but if you keep at it and grind enough to get to the plateau needed to create at least one stable farming team, you're set for life, don't give up anon.
Anyone else being a madman and potentially skipping all prefecture banners? I already have my favorites and most of the "meta" units so there's no point unless they'll somehow pull a surprise and insanely buff some of these styles or come out with a random GLEX prefecture unit out of the blue. It's weird since normally I'd immediately dive like I did with prefecture Asellus.
should I?
Recently started playing this game. What should I look for on my teams?
>>885387Thanks, anon, I'll try.It just feels like with my current roster I barely stay ahead of the difficulty curve even on single enemy nodes, all while decked out in upgraded S gear and some SS weapon pieces from free gibs. Was thinking about rolling on some of the banners that are still around to somewhat remedy the situation.
>>885415No point in pulling unless you've got favorites, outside of unexpected buffs and GLEX you won't see major increments in efficiency until the end of the year starting with the halloween banner at the earliest>>885416I can vouch for GLEX Azami but my AGI roster is still admittedly lacking as I've missed people like Boston, GLEX Red etc., if you're stacked you probably won't need her despite how good she is, only get her if you want to make sure future Azami gets more tool, all of the stuff on this one is top tier inheritance material.>>885464If you're familiar with the series you more or less know half of what you need to know already.If you don't it's kind of longer to explain, to keep it short>You need different comps for farming mooks and bossing>You need to farm good equipment to outfit multiple teams>You need to unlock and use different formations according to both the fight and what you have on your hands>Above all you need to create an efficient grinding engine asap because that's what matters mostBasically, you need competent healers, people who can cover AoE and single target on all possible attributes, tanks, counter fishers and buffers/debuffers.Grinding engines are mostly about clearing waves through AoE attackers, the more valuable being the ones with strong [Fast]techs, multiattributes and good rotations so you can use two people to carry other three trainees.Boss grind is twofold:One is about trying to blitz a boss in one or two rounds, you USUALLY need strong single target nukers for this but some rare bosses have adds, so strong t1 AoE is valuable too.The other is having a team that can survive for enough rounds to reach a certain damage score and then quickly die off, this is for conquest raid final bosses.Then there's a select couple of must have styles, namely Matriarch 1, ND and any Agi/Dex debuffer of your choice for the most challenging stuff, but this is all for optional content that is there purely for flexing.
>>885476thanks boss
>>885464Also in regards to the current banners:>2nd anniversaryAzami is very high value for both farming and bossing, I highly suggest you to fish for her because she'll be able to help out in farming tremendously.Barbara is one of the best offensive supporters in the game and will get better once you fish her platinum style with Flamenco Muse, can help out with both grinding and bossingVampy's a trap pull, she's merely average at best>Romancing CordeliaRich is MVP, one of the best farming engines to this day, will also get better later onCordelia is a competent pierce nuker for bosses but can be disregarded, not vital.Ginny is probably the best single target STR/INT/AGI debuffer you can get, she also has good inheritance options with styles you can fish in the plat pool, namely a very powerful st nuke for blunt and Petra Delta+ for petryfing thingsWil is a competent boss DEX debuffer that can also bring some Heat utility, good value and versatily but not the best you can get in the field>Romancing EmiliaMei Ling is the most efficient mass AGI debuffer you can find right now and overall a competent and versatile style for sun content and comps, she can also get a heal from her plat style on top of a decent sun nuke, good value.Alkaiser has a nice sun blunt skill for farming, an extremely valuable mass heal for emergency healing and overall decent performance for blunt/sun in an AGI spot once you'll get his plat styles so you can inherit Al Phoenix.Zeke is very niche, but has one of the very best blunt nukes in the game and can also fish for counters, wouldn't hunt it down but is a good style if you get him while looking for somebody elseEmilia's an alright style but is very, very reliant on her limited styles to work, so in your case it's probably not worth it until they repring her Gradius style.in short, Azami, Barbara, Rich, Ginny, Alkaiser and Meiling are probably the most valuable people you can get in limited banners right now.
>>885387>If you get all four shots it's pretty crazy, despite Zeke's low damage multipliers, one of the strongest nukes in the game easilyYeah, I'm really impressed by how high its damage is despite ZEKE not having much in the way of damage passives. Makes me happy that they can make a solid damage dealing style without having to spend all three passives on damage boosts and leave room for cool things like Scrum Guard. Of course, multi-hit means I gotta get lucky, but it's been satisfying seeing one party member soften three mobs with an aoe and then ZEKE follow up with a bang, bang, bang three-shot that kills them all. I should go check out what his Super Mecha Festival style gives him.And speaking of bigger numbers thanks to high grades instead of big stats/passives, holy shit that new Alkaiser heal is fucking mint! I only saw it once when he first learned it 'cause I've been auto-grinding instead of doing anything manual with him, but I saw 1770 pop in green numbers and my jaw dropped. So that's what people mean by an "S grade heal". Even with that low LOV stat, jeez.
>>885416>already at 10k might as well
Went into a stage named after a ninja village in Saga prefecture. Looked it up to see if it was real, turns out it's a ninja theme park. Seems like a pretty fun place for kids, they must've made mad bank when Naruto was airing.
>>885509All the prefecture events are basically giant ads for the Saga prefecture, the various bosses being all about Ureshino/Takeo onsen, or the various stages being references to key locations in the prefecture.https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e8380.htmlIt's a neat project all in all, especially since now Japan has a prefecture wide SaGa themed festival too.
>>885416GLEX Azami is pretty goodStrong for fast farming, terrific single target. Covers nuking in both Slash and blunt flavors. That said. Trick Pumpkin is no punishing combo so you're only truly bringing her along for Go for Broke.The recoil is 30%, it triggers on hits for each hit so the total recoil damage is ~13%.Paralyzes her but even without cleansing she mogs on most of the cast in a protracted fight against slash weak enemies due to how frequently she can use her nuke.
>SS asura announcedultra epik...
>>885865Asurabros...it's been ten thousand years...No lie, I remember talking about this here last year.
>>885487Thanks.Any info on how far into the future are must-pull banners, so I don't burn all my jewels on these?
>>885865>It's a full counter style>But it's stance based>Ellen's new style is also martial arts>She has insane BP cycling and a 9 BP SSS nuke with 73 powerOH NONO NO NONO!ASURABROS IT KEEPS HAPPENING>>886073Nobody knows when reprints will happen, right now your biggest priority is grinding the shit out of your teams and building up as many farming comps as you can, as fast as you can.The only other "must have" style that will come out is Liam, but we're talking about months from now.
Where do you get T3 hidden stat unlocks? I cannot find them in the shops. Also, a reminder that Vamp Lady is the best! So many good inherits and amps!
>>886267i too am giving her tornado blade+ or w/e its called
I want this new Rich so bad. Seems like a really good farmer unit. Gacha gave me two Ginny's lol
>windows is an asshole and made me spend my whole day fixing my computer>reinstalling bluestacks and RSRS nowGoddamn Microsoft making me miss a whole day of conquest grinding. We unlock the raid boss yet?
>>886267>Where do you get T3 hidden stat unlocks?The main renewable method will be from new floors of the Spiral Corridor that global hasn't added yet for some reason (I'm looking at JP banner list and we're already past the latest Spiral pool update).Right now you can get a few of them from the global exclusive Ludwig limited time event. You need to clear all 15 stages and then three bonus stages unlock (Romancing, use only SF1/SF2/SSG/RSRS characters and use only RS1/RS2/RS3 characters). Clearing the bonus stages gives you gold testaments for tier 3 hidden stats. Though you don't even get enough to fully unlock hidden stats for character, as seen by my pain captured here >>883965
>>886164My fave warrior girl just got even BETTER?! I don't care that Asura is getting mogged, fists are my second favourite weapon after axes so now best girl (next to Undine) just got besterer!
JP finally got the guild system?
bro, i just finished rerolling for JP yesterday but new units look nuts...guess I have to reroll again...
Raid boss is up. That damn eel was the only limited time event boss I couldn't beat, now I'll have my revenge.Do you guys take advantage of the raid boss' higher stat cap in conquests to grind stats, or do you focus on using the same 5 strong characters to do as much damage as possible for the rewards?
please piss off from my rolls asurafuck you
>rising nova+ the eels buff>Vampy quite literally can't die and will always break it's buffsBros my love is returning
Does the gae ever go beyond just mindless Auto? I haven't had to manually control the game once. I was hoping for a mobile Romancing SaGa with just the battle system attached, not AFK arena.
>>887058Generally there are a few manual only fights an event. With the exception of conquests which exist only for auto.And I guess the exception of world tower and the recently departed pandemonium where 150+ was almost exclusively manual.Ludwig that's up right now is manual (depending on your box) starting at Ludwig 10 and Mock Battle Evelyn is manual only starting that Evelyn 4)
>>887058Only the hardest content is manual focused, e.g. romancing bosses, some puzzle events, late Tower floors etc.Generally speaking the main meat of this game is cooking up Auto teams that are as effective as they can possibly be.Some styles are also specifically geared towards this, certain styles are kinda bad on auto but are really good on manual, certain styles are good on auto but with certain skills can get even better on manual.
is it just me or is the crafted S weapon on JP vastly superior than old ss weapons ?
>>887206That's the whole point, outside of dual element casters of course.
Why does my Gerard do so little damage? I hear Galactic Rift spoke about as if it's one of the most powerful aoes in the game, but it only seems to do around 45k vs dojo and Pandemonium mobs. I have the SS Light+ sword equipped on him, and recently got Galactic Rift to rank 99 thanks to Seeker's Path but I'm not noticing a difference after grinding it up. He's in a 50% INT slot on Anima Stream. Only thing that's not maxed is his level; he's level 39 but would hitting 50 double his damage or something? I think not.
>>887497Are you hitting weaknesses?My gerard's almost fully maxed out and can easily get 90K on things weak to Sun on T2
so I rerolled an acct with bunch of banner characters but Mei Lings doing so much less damage than everyone else...
>>887762Mei Ling's mainly an AGI debuffer/Sun comp supporter, she's not there for damage, she's there to make sure enemy casters have the worst day of their life.Also keep in mind Mei Ling is an odd DEX/INT hybrid, so her damage varies wildly depending on which slot you put her in and what you use, if you want her for the gun techs put her in a DEX slot, otherwise put her in an INT slot, although there's the Reverse Sigmoid formation that has 25% DEX/INT slots too.The plat style gives her a pretty decent Sun/Blunt nuke that buffs the party sun's damage as well, and with a bit of luck becomes pretty consistent in terms of use with her pref style thanks to the 25% chance to get 5BP back.
>>887575Mostly not, no. That would just trigger an additional "large" damage passive plus whatever the regular weakness multiplier is. That still doesn't sound like it would more than double my damage.>>887762She's a support/healer/debuffer bro.
When are they announcing the next banners? I'm kinda debating on whether to roll on Azami banner or hold.
>>888281Should be tonight. I had a feeling this was going to happen. With the next stream on the 24th the next banner is pushed from Thursday to Friday. And our 24th banner will be right before reset likely.I'm not confident enough to say it's not going to be ITOKEN. But I'd be surprised if it was based entirely on how things are lining up for us.
>>8882812 of the 3 characters are great and would be relevant for at least another year, why would you skip ?
>>888306PTSD from missing out on asellusGuess I'll roll on this one, since I'm drowning in starter gems anyway>>888295I gather that ITOKEN is not a must have, since he has no other styles to inherit from?
>>887981If you're not hitting weaknesses Gerard's not gonna do much, but if you really maxed him out in terms of stats, ranks and equipment, even at his lowest (no imperial assault, GLEX Barbara or matriarch/Mei Ling sun buffs) he should handily hit for at the very least 80K on weakness with Galaxy.>>888281Friday I guess? Azami's banner is still up for four days and they usually announce new banners two days before one of the current banners expires.>>888311ITOKEN is only a must for club simulations, by the time GL gets that content he will probably have a rerun.
>>888295*24th stream>>888311He never really did see long time play. But Matriarch still gets used forever.
Have anyone tried out the new Aisha on JP? She just spams the 3rd move in auto and it does so little damage...
>>888335That's to be expected because it's C power. its utility is used for hard situations because it's aoe agility down + stun chance. her T2 is also nice for bossing: 6BP/A power with morale down. Overall, pretty awesome unit for hard content + backup in farm teams.
>>888335Why are you expecting high damage from a Jammer, on a C power AoE?Put it to 12 if you don't need it so she can loop her Skill 2, and don't forget your earth rapier either since she's a hybrid caster.
Ludwig is filtering me on level 12?? WTF bros?
>>888384He tends to do that. I believe in you anon. Either DPS race him with your best slashers in Amazon EX or... still dps race him and use GLEX Fempress for hard times (assuming you have her)
>>888384Chadwig is pretty strong, don't be surprised, if you don't have good comps and can figure out his pattern it's pretty grueling.
>>888395Going to have to try this after a day or two in the conquest grind.
Ran out of onsen tickets, back to grinding normal/boss conquest nodes instead of the raid boss. Which node are you guys grinding lads?>>888315Is there a particular stage you and I could test our Gerards on? I'd like to try for a proper damage comparison.
>2 4 style banners released simultaneously againHow about some jewels for all these banners? I gotta skip both anyway. Hope the buffs don't flip the meta on its head.
>>888841im only rolling for emilia and still havent hit pity rip in peace
>managed to complete ludwig 15 with the new event richYeah you really need two buff removers to keep his damage manageable.
>>889012>also completed romancing on the first try with the same teamneat
>>8890121 buff remover can put it on their back but two removes the worse case scenario bad RNG situations from happening.
Can any whales here grind the conquest boss to death already so we can finally get the gems ?
>>889113I'm working on it.I've been burning through nearly 23k tickets and am finally down to like 4k left.
Sad news, Ruby got nerfed big time for GL, Laura got reworked a fair bit so it's hard to say whether she's better or worseAnyhow:>IskandarPlacebo STR and CHA buff, untouched otherwise>RubyPlacebo stat buffsPassive 1 has been changed into a large chance to get a large INT buff+2BP instead of a extra large ATK enhancement for one turn+2BPPassive 2 has been changed from extra large buffs to INT/AGI on odd/even turns to extra large probability to debuff WIL(Large) to one random enemySkill 2 now decreases INT(Medium) when it lands>VentusPlacebo stat buffSame treatment as Ruby so he lost his passive 2 for STR/AGI large buffs on Odd/Even turns for Weakness Advantage 4>Laura[Round begins] Taunt (extra large effect, 4 turns) and increases own STR (large effect)> [HP full] Increases attack damage (large effect), evade when being attacked (extra large probability) High battle tension>Increases attack damage (medium effect), BP+2 at the beginning of battleSkill 2 is now B damage instead of C damage and recovers HP(Very small effect)Skill 3 now recovers HP(Medium effect)So long story short, Ruby is no longer crazy heat DPS, she's now more of a WIL debuffer, but that means she needs to use Fire Rat from her S style instead of cycling her 0BP skill, big nerf for no reason, not sure why they're removing Unlimited's special passives, what are they thinking?Ventus is now a bit more stable in his damage output but since they didn't buff the chance to chase with Buster Lancer he's still unreliable, and can't even get faster in matriarch comps through buff stacking because again, no Unlimited passives anymore.Laura's a mixed bag, she now hits even harder than she did, and has better HP upkeep and defensive tools (Iguess the evasion chance is 37%, or maybe 50% since it's extra large?), but she's still stance based and needs full HP to be on top shape. still a beast of a style on manual but niche nonetheless.
These are the anniversary styles?This is really disappointing compared to Matriarch and Jo last year that are still useful to this day, I just hope they make a second round of GLEX to compensate
>>889119>maybe 50% since it's extra large?yeah it'd be 50%So if it's only like a single aoe a turn it's not bad but if she's in an aggro spot to exploit her counter and the boss or mobs hits 4-6 timesWe're at a 6% for her to keep her passive (as it only works on full hp) to a >2% chance to keep her passive.It's... not going to have a lot of mileage if she's trying to maintain the counter spot. >>889126We have a stream on the 24th and they adjusted our banner release schedule to match up with a 24 reset banner. I would be insanely surprised if it wasn't a second GLEX wave with how hard they repurposed Ruby into a worse Scorn
>>889126They're good styles, some of them are still really good styles, not sure why they hit Ruby with the nerf stick given how they buff everyone in GL, it's not like INT heat is a crowded niche either now that the first season OCs are dead.Also it's disingenuoyu to compare people to a super specialized character like matriarch, she only exists to buff every turn, as crucial as that might be for SOME hard content she's not that great of a character, and Jo has been long since surpassed by many other characters to the point she's not really seeing much use at all in GL outside of farming, where she's just ok.Maybe Robin Gal will change that, but since they also kept the charge on Pref Cody, it's hard to say whether they'll change her own charge nuke, if they don't she'll be very skippable.>>889128It's not that bad since as long as we're talking about direct AoE she'll counter and recover HP, for things like NPC stages/Dojo/Towers she's still great and she'll be the best at the job.All in all she has higher highs than JP Laura but lower lows, more survivability but slightly more unstable damage output, which I'm not really sure how worse it is compared to JP since Skill 2 is now B instead of C, we'd need to know the exact math to see if she's truly hitting that lower on GL if she's not at full HP.At this point I can only hope they buff Selma to not not be garbage and make Nebelstern something more than an outdated damage stick, and give us some good GLEX as an apology for kneecapping Ruby.
Welp, after the news decided to roll on azami banner and got her on the second 10-pull. Are Barbara and VL decent enough to continue or should I hold?
>>889140Barbara's good, VL isn't.You already got a big jackpot, save for the future, Barbara enables some fun and pretty effective comps but she's not vital, you can get her later through suptix or reprints.
>>889140Barbara is pretty dope and let's you do other crap but Vampy is of dubious value unless they make more fights which are buff resistant in which her ability to not die is actually leveraged. Azami is the star of the banner and that hasn't changed.>>889134>and recover HPIt's not exactly a whole lot. At most 140 HP is pretty puny. But you are right in that she's the best counter tank in the game bar none. If fights end before or on the third turn then she mogs all over like of global Forneus. As long as you get lucky on your indirect coinflips. Which was the only thing I was really talking about.>where she's just ok.Not entirely fair. Jo 3's Spectacle gate hits pretty damn hard and unless I'm mistaken there's neither cold nor heat that hits harder turn 1 by a fairly sizeable margin.Anyways this banner is still a pretty damn stout "wait and see" if you have characters that can fulfill these functions. Here's hoping the 24th spices things up.
so for passive buff,"small" is 10%, mid is 15%, large is 20% ?
>>889302Depends on the move.>we still haven't killed EelDie already.
>They nerfed people in Nacht Zweiger's banner tooWhy
Something weird happened while I was grinding conquest for stats - at around 1.2-1.3k all my characters ceased getting any stat-ups except HP, but all of them still have moderate glowing aura.I gather that I hit stat limit on them, but is it supposed to be that much lower than HP? Many mobs still hit me for truckloads and I was hoping that grinding out some stats will help with that, but if from this point onwards I only get HP then I'm at a loss as to how to lower incoming damage further.
>>890369>but is it supposed to be that much lower than HPIt is, if you're in the 150-5 range then you've hit the current stat ceiling.>Many mobs still hit me for truckloadsWorking as intended
>>890383How do I mitigate that, then? Didn't find many sources of SS armor or gear if that's what I need.
>>890595Just like in the mainlines games you kill them before they kill you, or abuse certain statuses like Stun/Petrify/Paralysis.I take you're the new guy who started recently, generally speaking mobs won't be a problem once you get your box more stacked so your comps just steamroll through them with the proper skill rotations, it will take some time before you get there though, outside of grinding you do need good equipment, amplifications, extra stats etc. before your farming teams can just blindly pulverize mobs.Even there in certain parts of the game like higher tower floors you'll still want to play on manual and have some general counterplay for nastier stuff.Having good armor+gear with abate all stones on both does help, especially since two abate all stones mean a global damage reduction of 20%, but in the harder content that's usually just the very basics you need, it will be more about playing on things like specific passives like styles with Scrum Guard or sources of passive healing.
Got ZEKE on my first multi, despite having both GLEX Red and Emelia I'm stopping
>>890680Probably smart, congrats on your mecha and saving tons of jewels.
>[Two Khamsins] Madeleine on free multiOkay, I take it
>Big man Iskandar just won't come homeCome on old man I got everyone but you, don't make me pity you
Sure took your time old fuck, at least you left me enough jewels so I can go broke on the bottomless banner and regret it in a week.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWcN5YxuYc
Whoa, so I could just buy GLEX PWR with this one time paid summon that gives 15k medals? Other styles I'm missing are>Brownie>Zenon >Polka >Evelyn>Boston >GLEX Minerva>GLEX Coppelia>GLEX Final Emperor>GLEX Tatyana>Thomas>Sarah>Julian
>that faceyikes
is the 10% banner a trap? I got several SS after 40 pulls but they all suck.
>>890897Jeez, it's 10%? I feel worse for not getting anything now. But if they do this again with a more recent batch, it'll be fantastic for ones I'm missing.This bottomless banner has styles from between 1st and 1.5 anniversary. It's 2nd anniversary now, so almost all of them are going to feel pretty outdated compared to the last month of banners. Current banners usually have decent reroll targets for new players, so these sorts of banners are mostly for dumping 45k in to pity a very specific style you really, really want and maybe get a couple old things you missed along the way.
>>890897Depends on why you're rolling into itThere's only 5 units I'm missing from this banner, one of which being Father who I need for mask.
>5000 paid jewel for a guaranteed pick>the only one i need is fempress and she's in thereawesome
>>890827GLEX Minerva can give her Skill 1/2 to Victoria in the future.GLEX Coppelia can give any of her skills to the future Plat Coppelia 2, which is kinda big since plat Coppelia 2 will be a really solid style.GLEX Final Emperor can give his Skill 3 to the future emperor styles and it's still a very good all purpose damage stick to this dayThe rest of your list is kinda middling, the OCs are dead for all intents and purposes, this Boston doesn't have a lot of sinergy with future Bostons in terms of inherit, and the RS3 people are...kinda dead right now but this particular Thomas has a strong Skill 3 which might be relevant later.I splurged most of my savings on it because I wanted Hat Kami and Glex Coppelia but I failed to get either, although I picked up a couple of strays along the way, I've got my pity right now but I still don't know who to choose, and there's also other personal favorites I'd like to get like standard Kami, Esper Girl, NY Mirza or Halloween White Rose.
so where do I find a good spear for the new Barbara ?
>new stream on the 24thI fell for the coomerbait GLEX banner (13 multis) but thankfully I didn't wasted any jewels on the double banners so I'm ready for the real anniversary GLEX styles>>891202Check the exchange shop, she got a new SS dark spear
>>891205To be fair, it could be nothing. It could just be ITOKEN. Which while a fun unit wouldn't really enthuse me for our anni banner
>>891205I wouldn't hold my breath for a second round of GLEX after the bottomless banner, it might happen but it's kind of hard to tell.Still, this time around they nerfed people instead of buffing them so who knows, GL is sure full of mysteries.Really not happy about Ruby being kneecapped, I was betting on her for a strong INT heat DPS slot, now I gotta wait for Onyx.
Is HW PWR worth the 33k jewels or is there any future style with a similar setup?
>>891295There's no style in the game so far with passive WIL party buffs after being "hit", let alone AGI debuffs and a heal.
>>891144Thanks for the second opinion on my options. I still think PWR is the best choice, as that WIL buffing seems unrivaled. Just bought the 10k jewel pack, which I was planning on adding to my SaGa Fest funds, but I think I will use half of it to grab PWR. But first, I'm gonna wait for someone to answer >>891295's question. Afaik no style in the game even in JP does what PWR does, but I wanna be sure.
>>891302>>891312Decided to go all in for her and also got theseAlso got a lot of dupes for NY Princess Rei, Final Emperor and Dorra
>>891328The picture didn't showed because I don't have any EXP for them but I also got Mesarthim and Sarah
>>891328>>891328Nice. Jealous of that S Ellen, it's the only style for my girl that I'm missing. Maybe I'll get it on a bottomless next year. Christmas Urpina's a nice get too, you can also get good use out of Apollo and that Thomas is the best petrifier iirc which is great for tower mob floors.
I can't remember the last time I had this much trouble with a farming event. Nacht 20 is killing me and Nacht 19's stat ceiling is too low to be worth it. What teams/formations are you guys using for the new event?
>>891337For 20? Glex: Minerva, Mikhail, Barbara, Claudia, and Jo 3 I think is what my team was.Barbara is just there to train her pierce skills which I never got around to doing elsehwere
>>891347Thanks. Don't have Minerva or Jo 3, and my pierce is fairly weak, but I should probably switch to a Deadly Pierce EX team and only try to train 2 or so featured characters instead of trying to muscle through and train Fempress, Azami, Gerard, Leon and Narwhal's Daughter all at once. I got too used to being able to grind with five "trainees" (quotes because they're all at or close to the previous highest level cap).
>>891337Mariah, GLEX Mikhail, Jo 3 and Wagnas while training AzamiI know Mariah and Wagnas are not the best damage dealers but I'm using them for the bonus stats
Did they change Dorra? I swear he was an "archer" type.
>>891337It's not really a hard event to farm if you're a veteran, by now you should have plenty of pierce/heat styles to put in multiple slots, but if you're really having troubles:>STRAny spear user with Multitrust, this means UDX Neidhart, GLEX Minerva etc.Pref Cody for obvious reasonsVentus is really good for this, give him his S style Skill 3 as an opener, if he rolls for his chase he's the single best T1 STR DPS you can have for this event, him and Jo are probably the best DPS for this boss periodGLEX Barbara is also good if you amplified AcupunctureMystic Asellus, Pref Rich or anyone with Rising Nova+ is also decent in a STR SlotWith a bit of luck Urpina can also do sizeable damage with Torrent fishing but it's not ideal>DEXGLEX Mikhail loops his skill 3 for a sizable amount of health on top of good damageUDX/GLEX Claudia can do considerable T1 damage too with Reverie TrishotUDX Darque has a strong T1 nuke but can also rotate Stinger for T1+T2, UDX Jamil is comparableZeke has also a very strong T1 if the RNG assists you, second only to Ventus RNG in this scenarioPref Selma is passable>AGIDora can either open with her S bomb or loop her other skillsUDX Valdor can loop Drill Crusher for good damage if the RNG assists you>INTJo, duhPolka or Barthelemy with Scattered ExplosionsWagnas/Ruby with Rising Flame, Ruby's better since she can eventually loop back to Rising Flame if you don't T1NY BluePref Wil to some degree, he does have a SS heat nuke and the passives to make it worthwhile, he also has really good survival in case the battle gets longer
>>891359>>891370Thanks guys. I settled on Mariah, Therese, Claudia, Azami and Gerard in Deadly Pierce EX. Nice that 4 of those get x3 stats. They clear on turn 3 when Azami wakes up pretty reliably. Turn 1 I can almost kill Nacht, but then turn 2 things slow way down as someone will probably get stunned and all the big nukes are spent.Reading that list of options really drives home once again that my spear damage dealer selection sucks; I have literally none of the ones you mentioned.
How idfficult is the series specific Ludwig fights vs Romancing? I managed to beat Romancing but with a few members alive with the cheese shield from GLEX Femps, but the series restrictions are going to give me serious trouble. I'll have to raise a few more styles near max. maybe try out Virgil in this fight in the SF1+ round. I have Myst Asellus and Pref Alkaiser, it's choosing which PWR and a final 5th style to use for team comps.
>>891451Probably around Romancing difficulty if not equal. I posted my clears last thread, checking the archive it looks like I used Fempress/Azami/Ellen/Vampire Lady/Barbara for one and Asellus/Madeline/Urpina/Elysed/White Rose for the other. Both in Amazon Strike EX formation.
https://imgur.com/a/DMo41qe A lot of images but can I do any team with what I got? I also have 100k diamonds and its a day 1 account so I want to play on it if I can... I dont like really dificult events, I only want to do the basic ones and not super hard bosses or something like that.
>>891465>I only want to do the basic ones and not super hard bosses or something like that.You have everything you need to do what you want and then some.
>>891465If you're looking to have an easy time with easy opponents then stick jo (flambe sorbet), summer empress, glex emelia and whatever aoe unit you like and run them on auto on current events to farm stats. grinding stats is pretty much all you do outside of doing hard content.
>>891465Yup, you're good. Emelia, Undine, Blue, Jo, Matriarch, Final Empress, Lyza, Monika, Wagnas, Ferdinand, Minstrel, Asellus, Barbara, Gustave, Barthelemy, Galahad, Albert, Zozma, Dorra, Gwayne, Aldora, Mesarthim, Princess Rei and Liz can all help you cover the majority of content out there.I think based on your box it would actually be very worth it for you to do a full (33k) pity on the bottomless banner right now. You're missing everything from it I believe, so there's a ton of styles that'll boost your roster's power significantly. If you don't pull her along the way, I would pity GLEX Princess White Rose (the halloween pumpkin one) as she fills the AGI debuffer role so you could use her with Matriarch to try harder stuff one day if you feel like it. Inherit a heal onto her and you're golden. For that, you can get Ray of Hope from her free S style in the Robin Cup exchange.
>>891482Thanks anon, I'll try to get her then.>>891469>>891480Thank you too anons, Jo really helps a lot and Emelia with doble echo too.
>>891509Good luck!
>>891512Had to reach pity but I got this along the way, not even mad about it.
>>891547Very nice. I'm biased in favour of SaGa 1&2 but I still use Human F and Human M today. Christmas Rei is a great upgrade to her older style and great dark damage. GLEX Mikhail is fantastic pierce damage. Christmas Urpina has some very nice aoe for farming. Halloween Cat has a guaranteed hit STR/INT debuff, pretty handy vs some bosses but you gotta rank it up manually which is a pain even during Seeker's Path. GLEX Sasha's a great healer and can debuff INT. If that's the Valdor with Drill Pierce he's very solid too. Oh shit, you even got GLEX Rocbouquet! Still a fantastic mage, holds up very well.You made out like a bandit, and seeing that I have all but two of those, you've reminded me again that it's not worth it for me to pity and I should just buy PWR.
Hell yeah. Did my paid pull to pity PWR and got Polka's third SS style! I skipped this and his recent 4th one. If I recall correctly, this is the style that does the most damage with Scattered Explosions, right? It's absolutely loaded with damage passives.
>>891557I really like how GLEX Roc and Sasha works from what I see in their abilities, and I have to say that HFem seems pretty nice? At least in my eyes but I'm an old player. Can you tell me a basic team? I'm using this party (you can laugh at my equipment, I know its bad lol) but I'd like to know what to change here.>>891566Congrats! I love that Polka art + he hits hard from what I have seen in JP vids.
>>891568Thanks!Okay, teambuilding. First of all, you're gonna wanna change that formation. Rainbow Rangers is the most common farming one, as it lets you effectively train a variety of characters simultaneously while letting you take advantage of all your various nukes and aoes. Amazon Strike EX is good too if the enemy's weak to slash or Deadly Pierce EX if they're weak to pierce. Anima Stream's probably still best if you're running a mage team targeting an elemental weakness. You can pick all of these up in the formation exchange and if you don't have enough formation medals, just go to the Attacks tab under Events and fight through the easier stages of them until you have enough.As for who to use, you've got a lot of options. A generic team for say, the quest, I'd probably go Rainbow Rangers with GLEX (Christmas) Urpina or Summer Final Empress in the STR slot, GLEX Emelia in the DEX slot, Dorra or Human F in the AGI slot, Jo's first style in the INT slot and whoever you want in the LOV slot. LOV characters with decent aoes include your GLEX PWR and GLEX Sasha but anyone works so this is your flex slot for training someone else up. That's an aoe team that uses Holy Shining Sword Elegant Sands, Bolt Thrower, Dorra's aoe or Human F's motorcycle move, Sorbet Flambe and whatever to clear waves quickly.For a single target farming team, such as a conquest boss node, which is ideally what you're running in the conquest for that higher stat cap, I'd go Rainbow Rangers again except this time Zozma in the STR slot with Blood Rage+, Mikhail in the DEX slot with Quadruple Pierce (bump up his s2 to cost the same so he cycles s1 and s3), Human F in the AGI slot but this time max out the bp cost of her s2 so she cycles between s1 and s3, Jo with Checkmate inherited from her second style or Aldora or Christmas Rei or GLEX Roc or even Blue in the INT slot, you have a lot of INT nukes and then whoever in the LOV slot.
Seeing this banner makes me realize how global exclusive styles dropped in quality when compared to Final Empress, Leon, Pumpkin White Rose and Rocbouquet, recent GLEX are all "something that another styles does but a little better" or straight up coomer baitMaybe they were getting backlash from JP players or they realized these styles completely changed how the game is played
>>891607GLEX Leon is just the recent UDX Gerard but with more support and worse damage around the board, GLEX Emps is quite literally just the future Plat Emps but with a greatsword instead of a spear, the vast majority of GLEX styles have always been just previews of future styles/balance adjustments, people like GLEX Femps or GLEX White Rose are outliers and have always been so (GL has also already adjusted to those, see the recent GL Ludwig bossfight for a recent example), you can say the same for the recent GLEX Azami too since there's nobody in JP that has such a kit either.
>>891588Thank you so much anon, I'll run this for the moment and farm to get Rainbow Rangers formation as you said as fast as I can. I really appreciate it.
>>891706You're welcome, good luck! All those styles should be fine in most content so long as you keep grindin' 'em up. Bear in mind, Rainbow Rangers lowers your END by half so physical attacks will hurt. Farming is usually a strike first and strike hard sort of thing, taking advantage of full hp+ holy weapon stones and such.
I have a lot of the these limited styles but am shocked there is an S Asellus w/Rising Nova I don't have. Also wtf it doesn't have that limited SS Ellen style. I don't think it ever had a repeat.IDK man. 6x on this banner for an S style.F
>>891739Ouch, ripperoni
Didn't they promised to give us 60k jewels during the month? Or it was supposed to be 60k jewels if you complete all the content like conquest, events and world tower?
>>89175460k jewels would be available in June, so that counts login, events, conquest, world tower, etc. I was wondering how they'd reach it until I saw World Tower come back last night.
Spiral Corridor will reset soon too, so that's more free jewels.
>>891773Speaking of which, don't forget to spend all your spiral tickets bros! The ones you have now are about to become useless in favour of the new ones.
Vroom!
GLEX White Rose already putting in work on my World Tower climb, this stacking WIL shit is bonkers. I made it to floor 254 last time, cleared it with ease then made Death my bitch on floor 255.
I hate attacks. I need 3 more medals but looks like I should grind a lot more of stats and ranks, I'm only at 550HP with skills at rank ~40.
>>891897what about that slime girl with stacking END ?
>>892025END stacking doesn't give you meaningful damage reduction on high end content where everything one shots you with 2K/3K damage, you want to avoid things entirely and shut down status effects from stray hits, which is why GLEX White Rose is so effective on certain comps
>>891991Yeah, they get very tough. I still haven't done the last stage for the previous five attacks; they're permanent so I just wait to powercreep them like Asura. I should probably go back and try a few since it's been a while, but I've got time-limited high difficulty content to focus on.>>892025The other guy explained why PWR is generally better for the toughest stuff; I lived in fear of status effects ending a very long turtling run until yesterday. But as far as Golden Baum-chan goes, she's pretty good in specific fights. If the boss is pure physical (rare), she'll help a lot. Most of the time when I use her, it's in counter strats so she can give the party a large guard up with Shrine Dance to weather storms during turns where Fempress doesn't have Imperial Shield up.
>>892180Evelyn will still kick your teeth in. Everything she does gives you the super flu.
>>891897>GLEX White RoseWhich one was that? Halloween theme?
>>892186Yep>>892185Well shit. At least PWR can cleanse, too.
Managed to be the series specific Ludwig fights. Genryu Snow was the more important buffer/support than PWR with his buffing hail, and Virgil was way more durable than I realized, he was tanking hits like a damn champ! That allowed Blue, Asselus and Alkaiser to keep attacking him. I used Amaon EX, but I should have tried Desert Lance EX before it shuts down. The RS crew gave me far less trouble thanks to the GLEX styles and matriarch of course, but Byunei 3 managed to save me from an untimely restart when she was able to get a couple of counter hits in. one hit pushed him into the 2nd phase, the 2nd counter hit was enough for even a simple attack to do him in. And that was with Matriarch and Azami down and everyone was out of BP!
Man, Saruin on Floor 260 was a real sonuvabitch. I mean a really big meanie. His debuff scrubbing had my brainlet ass at a loss, so I searched for a clear and had all the pieces to do it. GLEX PWR coming in clutch again, this time for her s3 inherited onto her latest style. Full credit to this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1-l3fe2zBQ&ab_channel=SilverWarrior%E6%88%98%E7%A5%9EThink I'll do one more floor then stop for the day.>>892328Yeah, I hear Virgil with Desert Lance EX is pretty sweet. Didn't manage to get him though. Missed out on Snowy too, who I also hear is an amazing support. Bune 3 is still my biggest regret of a skip. That sounds like a helluva run on that last one Anon, congrats and well done!
>>892332>Mirza comp against SaruinK I N OINO
>>892333Checked, and the crazy thing was, over 90% of the time during the fight when he used Sword of Saruin or Energy Bolt, it targeted for Mirsa (for no damage of course). It might have even been every time, but I'm assuming there must've been once or twice where it didn't happen. It's like it was coded that way on purpose.
>>892335>It's like it was coded that way on purpose.Destiny repeats itselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYnBy2mcJxE
Ya know it's funny. Earlier today I'm posting about Baum-chan, and we're comparing her with GLEX PWR. Somehow I get it into my head to take another kick at floor 191 of the Scarlet Grace Pandemonium tower, which I had previously abandoned after discovering I could not beat the Earth Serpent and his Soil Worm minions without an aoe DEX debuffer.I put Golden Baum and my new GLEX PWR on the team and boom, easy win on the first try. I don't understand how this worked but it worked out beautifully. Stacking END and WIL to the sky along with the usual AGI buffing is a helluva time, I tell ya what.10 days left on this tower, so maybe if I can make it past this hump, I can go all the way after all.
I'm starting to see the logic behind some of the changes in the recent banners.Ventus can now open the floodgates for STR buffing a lot more efficiently than in JP, if the coint toss for chase buster complies, if it does, even without Matriarch stacking STR buffs every turn his coin toss busters alone can start hitting for six digits on round 3 IF he gets consistent chases, which is honestly impressive as much as I do miss the AGI stacking, because that indirectly gave him a bit more survivability in matriarch comps, on the other hand if he inherits his S style Skill 3 AND chases, he's the roufas equivalent to Pierce damage for T1, which is what I hoped Pref Cody would have been about but whatever...I'd go as far as saying that I might have actually underrated him a fair bit, but coin toss characters have such a big caveat it's hard to evaluate them properly.Laura's still a mixed bag imo, in melee focused bosses/NPC fights she's crazy, arguably better than she was since the new full evasion passive now helps her a lot in evading stray spells, but if she doesn't proc that she loses both damage AND the passive evasion which is a bit too much of a handicap for somebody who can't reliably self top, unlike Iskandar, the lack of a ST nuke also hurts her bossing capabilities but a future style might change that, she's still very strong if you do build entirely around her niche by putting people like Mariah, Golden Baum or anyone with party wide heals, if you do Laura becomes a nearly impregnable fortress, which is pretty great for a lot of tower stages.Selma's meh, Silver Aegis is still a dead slot even with one more proc and her DEX stacking isn't nearly as impressive as Ventus' STR stacking despite not needing a coin toss to open the floodgates, she's surely more stable but Ventus has much, much crazier highs and a better toolkit for pushing damage in general, still decent for a DEX slot since Ventus is STR, will be pointless on that when Ciato drops though.
Nebelstern...I can see what the intention was, they wanted to make him a more offensive version of Iskandar but for STR Pierce, same exact 11>3 rotation was kept but now he can self buff for five rounds exactly like Iskandar, the issue is that1) Iskandar comes with pretty mighty STR buildups AND defensive buffs for each turn2) Iskandar rotates a 3BP dual attribute skill that also self heals for a considerable amount meaning he's tanky as hell3) If that wasn't enough Iskandar also self buffs WIL every turn which is big for the same reason GLEX White Rose is bigAnd despite the changes, Nebelstern doesn't have any of this, instead he can inherit a wind based heal spell, which puts him in a more supportive role...for somebody who's built as nothing but a ST damage stick so they didn't really solve any of the issues with him coming from JP.Nacht isn't really worth mentioning in the sense that nothing fundamentally changed about his kit, outside of having a slightly better ST capability now if you stack AGI high enough but still, nobody would ever bring Nacht to bossfights, it's a farming machine through and through.Skya and Ruby were both kneecapped hard and I still can't find any redeeming value in their changes, nor any logic behind them outside of giving Polka and Jo one last hurrah as fire casters, as if they needed it, they're still good styles but far from what they were in JP, Skya's loss of vivify hurts her tremendously and Ruby just can't push crazy heat DPS anymore even if she gets lucky with WIL debuff stacking, I'd say she's basically just Stage Wagnas in an INT slot but with better rotations and less attribute covering, which is not bad but not particularly good either, especially since when Stage Kujinshi will drop she'll get mogged in the ST WIL debuff department pretty hard, let's not talk about Red Mage either who will just eclipse her entirely.
>>892409How would you rank Laura against all the other counter characters we have? Urpina has been putting in work for me since I got her.
After a handful of tries, Desert Lance EX Virgil works. Virgil got the deathblow last man standing with an overdrifve sunspot, lol.
>>892422Based
>>892421Kind of a long topic so I'll try to be as exhaustive as possible because I hate QRDs.>UrpinaTorrent is a [Fast] Pierce+Slash B power deflect AoE counter and it costs 10BP, while it does go off on Auto you can't really make full use of it unless you play on manual and use Dual Wield Stance to recharge so eh, it's not THAT great since you'll want your tank to have their counters up ASAP, ProResu Urpina can theoretically work around that if she flips enough +2BP coins but the issue is that she'll lose on the damage side when it comes to that and she'll be highly unstable.Laura's rainbow deflect is a 7BP stance with B power AoE pierce, she loses one attribute compared to Urpina but she has better upkeep and no need for previous styles either, moreover her rainbow deflect self heals, which is big, and she just has far better damage than Urpina, Urpina just can't reach the damage Laura pulls on deflects, not even her GLEX can do it and her GLEX also has the same issue of losing damage output if her HP is not topped, but unlike Laura she can't self top at all.>Golden LionNY GL has a 7BP, B power Slash AoE counter stance, which also gives her back 1BP on every hit, and is further propped up by her passive 1 giving her back a very small amount of BP and a medium STR buff.The rest of her passive set is similar to Laura's and she can also inherit Lion Stance: Encase to give herself a medium Guard Up and 2BP at 0BP cost, so basically she can keep up Savage Lion ever odd turn, and in the long run, she can match Laura's firepower without needing external buffs, moreover she has a passive for large damage mitigation and a whopping 84% END multiplier.This might lead you to think "wtf she's basically just Laura but better", there's a big hole in her strategy however:Savage Lion doesn't deflect, this is a massive issue for mainly two reasons:One hit kills and Stuns (think attacks like Tackle) just shut down NY GL entirely, Laura just deflects and laughs.
>>892454>ForneusTidal Lure is a 7BP, S power [Fast] Pierce+Cold counter, that leads to Maelstrom, which is S power cold.Forneus is similar to the aforemention NY Golden Lion in that he has a large damage reduction and HP recovery on hit+very small heals, he has worse damage modifiers however so he can't quite leverage the full power of Maelstrom, doesn't help that his second style doesn't have any defensive passives, and his future style won't make this better either as he won't have any defensive bonus or self heals, so running counters on that is not really desireable since just like Savage Lion, Tidal Lure is not a deflect counter, and so just like Golden Lion, Forneus' role as a counter fisher crumbles the moment he gets hit by a nuke or by something that stuns on hit like again, Tackle, Knee Split and what have you, and unlike Laura he doesn't even a good chance to avoid indirect things like spells, he just eats them and croak whereas Laura can actually flip Solemn Judgment from her field and say that she doesn't get hit, on top of again, hitting harder than any current incarnation of Forneus.Other than these, there's the extremely recent Asura who has a SS power Aoe counter but it's kind of pointless to talk about it, and maybe the upcoming Boston but his counter is not a proper AoE, rather, three separate C power hits, so again, not really comparable to Laura.In conclusion, how would I rank Laura among the AoE counter fishers in the game?Probably Laura=ProResu Urpina>NY GL=Urpina>Forneus.
>>892458>Probably Laura=ProResu Urpina>NY GL=Urpina>Forneus.>tfw used Forneus for all the NPC battlesNot the guy asking you questions, but even if he's the worst, fish guy's been doing pretty good by me. It's nice to know that if that's the case, you're pretty much set with any of these.
>>892478I'm personally ranking Forneus as the lowest because he suffers from all the issues NY GL has while also not having something like Lion Stance: Encase for better defense and cycling, and a slightly worse off toolkit in terms of passives.That doesn't mean that particular Forneus style is bad, far from it, if I had to deal with enemy batches that were weak to cold I'd bring him over NY GL or Urpina without question, and he still pulls his own in below 180 floors of the world tower, so this ranking is fairly relative and also puts each style in an ideal environment where we consider the best and worst case scenarios for a specific niche which is not really crowded to begin with.Forneus still does a lot of heavy duty work to this day, he's my personal Dojo 5 clearer and I do not intended to change that any time soon, Laura would surely clear Dojo 5 much faster in 90% of the cases but I'd uninstall the game if I had to do manual Dojo every single day.
>>892458>>892454I really appreciate this. I cannot tell which Urpina ProResu is. Is that [I'm Ready]? I didn't know GL had to take damage first.What do you think about Annie? She can inherit a taunt and has a decent AoE counter but it is not guaranteed.I'm going to wait to see what the next banner is before I pull the trigger on Laura. She would be a nice to have but gems are kinda light right now. 42k
>>892487She'll come later on this year, if you look at the english Google docs spreadsheet she's in the fighter section after Pink Tiger.>What do you think about Annie?Ehhh, as somebody who has Annie in his top 20 most used units and pulled her GLEX out of sheer favoritism, GLEX Annie's a real mixed bag, honestly clunky to actively use for her counter since her only real way to use it outside of matriarch comps is to inherit Parry and hoping she activates her counter to pull of her Skill 3, which is pretty damn bad since it will activate at Rank 1, and GLEX Annie just doesn't have the passives to make it good no matter how hard she tries.You CAN get lucky and get it to proc a couple of times per round, it did happen, but even considering her self buffing AND healing I'd never use her over Laura, or even over NY GL or Forneus, there's fishing for RNG and there's Russian Roulette, I like betting on tough odds but I'm no Kyousuke Nanbu if you catch my drift.
>>892487Also consider another important thing when looking at AoE counter styles:You want to finish the fight ASAP since you're using them for stages with lots of enemies like the Seven Heroes floors or the various SaGa NPC stages, the point of these styles is not to weather a storm but to kill the fucking storm before it kills you.What sets Laura apart from EVERYONE ELSE in the game up to this very day in JP is that she can pull off TWO deflects back to back, the only other style that can do something vaguely similar will be the second new year Golden Lion IF you have the first NY golden lion so she can inherit her Savage Lion skill, since NY GL 2 has Power Charge 3, but again, Savage Lion isn't a Deflect so she can still be shut down before getting anything done and doesn't have a passive toolkit for counter styles either.This is arguably the biggest reason why Laura's on top of her niche, because nobody else is as fast and efficient at it as she is, if for whatever reason she didn't kill things in the first round she WILL kill them on the second round, nobody else can do this.
>>892376both baum and pwr? Doesn't that mean your dps is very low ?
>>892514It didn't actually take longer than a normal turtling strat at this point. Hell, it was faster than Antonius right after. Undine's Chill was hitting for pretty nice little chunks every round, and Golden Baum hit weakness too with her s2.
Going like this right now and its working perfectly, thanks anon. My goals right now are getting to 150k so I can safely pitty Silver(was that her name?) Halloween and Undine GW (I don't know why she's called GW if she's literally a summer unit, but eh).
is there someone with stacking WIL on JP ?
>>892943teamwide buff i mean.
>>892944https://nao-romasaga.github.io/style.html
>Rising stab into Lance Buster for 140K T1 on Nacht 20>Rising Stab isn't even mid rank
>>892909Nice. Now you just gotta get more equipment medals to get SS armor and gear from the equipment exchange and wait for pickaxes to drop in the story again for some full hp+ weapon stones for farming and abate all armor and gear stones for lowering the damage you take.You'll only need 90k to pity those two, but hopefully you won't need even that! Undine's my #1 girl and Silver's my #3, so my good luck come to both of us.
Goddamn that Sigfrei. I seem to have hit another wall at floor 196. Somebody tell me the SSG tower only has 200 floors.
So I was trying out a new emulator(mumu) but when I tried to link my facebook account on the starting main screen, it doesn't work.
>get Sigfrei to 15%>somehow kills SaruinSigfrei is a fucking nigger. If I can pull that off, then victory should be possible with RNG and healing Saruin a lil earlier. This better be the final fight against him. Everyone else who beat him either had paralyze resistance reducing weapon stones and Wicked Witch or had Snowy.
I didn't get Iskandar. Used pity on Laura. Oh well... I have Hector at home.
I'm so fucking tilted. Trying out Sasha instead of Shen Du for WIL buffs over AGI and an extra healer 'cause heals are a huge issue. No dice, coming up on four hours total.>>893495Sorry to hear, at least you have the best counter tank.
>>892215>Well shit. At least PWR can cleanse, too.Not if she's dead. We haven't outstatted Evelyn's damage yet. You can evade her pretty easily because her AGI is low. The only real problem is romancing. You need some good strategies to hold that because reaper WILL hit you without dex debuffs and it's usually all she needs to start snowballing her Super Flu on you. Romancing still a menace. But not that bad depending on your box.>>892409 AFAIK Ruby is potentially THE best ST WIL debuffer in the game thus far. Better even than Scorn with average RNG. Her skill 2 should be a 50% for a large wil debuff and she has access to fire rat. Fuck all useless for AoE though. But Evelyn still holds that on her back so it's not like it matters right now.As for counter weenie strats. Pic related. The real reason I want and now use Laura is because she comes baked in with taunt. Urpina may have access to her counter two turns in a row for this fight but she needs a substantial amount of luck even in Tiger Shark to actually get fucking hit with every single attack.God damn.I should try Annie again. I feel like I'm not sufficiently unhappy enough.
Finally bros, I fucking did it. Took all night but floor 196 is clear. Ended up fully evolving a bunch of Moonbeam+ Robes I had laying in my closet and some paralysis resistance stones, credit once again to this fantastic dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P20PUTG_MzI&ab_channel=SilverWarrior%E6%88%98%E7%A5%9ECouldn't have done it without GLEX PWR, this is one of the greatest investments I've ever made. Please tell me this ends on Floor 200.
>>893572NiceAlso yes it does. Oh before I forget the community stream is 12PT 3ETSo just ahead of reset. I've got a good (bad) feeling about this
>>893573Thanks!>pickaxes dropping from NachtFuck yeah, they finally learned their lesson and put them in currently running events rather than making us choose between higher stat caps and running story. I was just talking to Anon earlier today saying he should hit those mines next time pickaxes start dropping.
went from 19k gems to 75k since i had to triple pity jo/bert/asellus banners and i have even used like 9 multi on random banners shit is comfy. I'm on that chill till liam and the change to offbanner pool shit right now unless its a giga core glex or they make me coom2 years and this game just keeps me super happy in general.
Man, are they ever gonna update the prizes for the Robin Cup? I've pretty much maxed out the styles that are there and i have no use anymore for the books, the emblems or the weapon gemstones.
>>893569It's not as simple as that, Scorn has two guaranteed small WIL debuffs per round and rolls with a 37% chance for a third, on top of that he can mass debuff WIL (small) too for a single attack just in case you need it.Ruby has only one guaranteed small WIL debuff if you use Fire Rat instead of Fire Arrows, then she rolls for a Large one with what should be a 50% chance, meaning if Ruby doesn't roll consistently Scorn leaves her in the dust, Scorn also has a major advantage over Ruby, he rolls for Energy Steal+ chase on any skill he uses, which means he's a lot harder to kill, which means he's also a lot more consistent in terms of debuffing even though in theory Ruby has the chance of doing more damage in the long run, if her other coin toss collaborates.Stage Kujinshi is a similar deal, he has a 37% chance to apply the same Large WIL debuff as Ruby BUT whenever he lands an attack, Since he has Victim Sword which cases with Shadow Bolt+(which is AoE too) he can, in theory, tank WIL harder than anyone if he passes the checks for both rolls, and regen 4BP too, and similarly to Spite he also has plenty of strong self healing options.Due to how decay works in this game it's better to have consistent debuffers rather than people who roll for large ones, same reason why Pref Ginny's large INT/STR debuffs aren't so hot because she has a turn cooldown on those skills, as a result GL Ruby's currently inbetween Stage Kujinshi and Spite in that she has theoretically higher highs than Spite if she passes the rolls consistently, but also lower highs than Kujinshi if he passes the rolls consistently.Performance wise we're seeing the same issue of any coin toss style such as Stage Wagnas, Kami or even the recent Ventus, it's the archetype's greatest strength and greatest weakness, if you get heads then you're doing record breaking performance, if you get tails then you're barely above mediocre.
In Ruby's defense, she and Ventus have been turned into the same slow and steady kind of character Iskandar is, all three of them are about building up buffs/debuffs in the long run, they're all meant for high difficulty content where you'll spend a lot of rounds before killing things, the more the fight goes on the more chances you get to roll for INT buffs and WIL debuffs, if you're lucky Ruby is pretty terrific.She's worse off than either Iskandar and Ventus at her job though because she's a lot more unreliable.Iskandar doesn't roll anything, he just passively stacks STR/WIL every turn, on the other hand he's stuck on a 11>3>3>3BP rotation on auto, but that 3BP skill gives him back a massive chunk of HP even if he doesn't hit anything, which is busted, and on manual he still has good options outside of that, but that STR/WIL stacking is obscene in the long run and turns him into a beast.Ventus now stacks a large STR Buff for every hit he lands AND can chase with a SSSS nuke (meaning he potentially gets two large STR buff in a single round), which means that in just three rounds he's already the virtually strongest pierce DPS in the entire game WITHOUT considering Matriarch+ND buffs to further make him snowball, on manual he gets even better because you can choose to cycle a 9BP SSS column nuke too which can chase with the SSSS Nuke, this leads to insane damage in long fights.Ruby's issue is that she doubles down on Ventus' package, she has to roll for both INT buffs and WIL debuffs, even if both rolls have actually pretty good rates for the average coin toss there's still two of them, she has the same exact issue as the upcoming Kami where he has to roll for two chases, her overall performance is great on paper but a different thing in practice, she's just too unstable without offering any other gimmick, unlike Stage Kujinshi who also rolls a lot but has a passive counter SSS nuke.
>>893868>It's not as simple as that, Scorn has two guaranteed small WIL debuffs per round and rolls with a 37% chance for a thirdTwo? From what? Scorn only has enervate and that's a 25% chance. Where does the second one come from? The AoE also depends on enervate. Even owing to decay, on the assumption she's working with 15% and not higher for her now unique ability (15% turn 1%, fail turn 2 11.25% etc)Now Red Mage I'll give you is different. He coinflips for energy drain and is magnitudes more tanky as a result. His debuff, while only 5%, stacks consistently. On average, it fluctuates from being marginally better to slightly worse. Off the passives alone and owing that he and Ruby roll the exact same thing on average they would break even at T4. Ruby with average luck fluctuates between -15% and -22.5%. Red Mage peaking at -20%Ruby's online way faster though. But naturally you're going to take the longer lasting unit... in the future.Stage Kujinshi is also a misnomer. It's a 37% * 2. The odds of that happening at all is 13%. If you were running some ailment strat you wouldn't be frustrating yourself with resets for that. You'd take Wicked Witch like a sane person.>>893870>there's still two of themTo be fair, rarely are you going to be taking her for both functions. You'd either use her as a ramping fire mage OR a wil debuffer. There's only really two flavors of element for wil debuff right now and there were and will be more bosses that are not weak or down right resistant to both flavors.
>>893569>I should try Annie again. I feel like I'm not sufficiently unhappy enough.Alright. This was significantly easier than I could have possibly imagined.Glex Urpina took like 11 resets. Annie did it in one go and smiled on her way to the finish line. I forget sometimes that she has prism soul and as a result is functionally unhittable once the snowball starts. Which wouldn't matter even if she did get clipped as her passive colorful slash heals for 1kVampy was taken over Asellus because no amount of bad RNG will kill Vampy. Ever. She WILL use Rising Nova+
>>893844Well, they finally updated egg shell exchange and are making me use it again, so there's hope.
bruh, the new PWR on JP is broken af...The previous banner is indeed a trap.
>>894078As someone who only recently has been able to experience the joy and brokenness of GLEX PWR, tell me more about this new style for my favourite healer.
>>893941>Two? From what?Strife has Fire Rat, which you inherit on Red Mage for double the WIL debuffing.I'm sorry, now that I reread my post I realized I mixed up the minions' names, my mistake.>>894078Yeah, looking at the new banner right now>Another fucking Asellus stylesGuess she doesn't really have a lot of overlap with her previous styles on this one though, rapiers and just 74%+R STR, guess anything from the previous styles outside of Kiai is worthless on this oneConstance looks pretty decent though, all that passive healing is nice in theory, not sure how Promise Bouquet would work out though, I guess it's mostly to enable her passives but I need to take a better look at her whole skillset after I have my dinner.That White Rose though, wew...
>>894123a better matriach/ND with status cure.
>>894253No way. Well, time to update my list of planned pulls.
>>894279yes way
>>894301>Presumably 37% chance to buff str, dex, int, wil, lov, charm and cure all ailments>1 Bp hp recover (small)>4BP buff for STR, DEX, AGI>9 BP SSS attack which raises STR and WILFantastic. The styles pretty good, decently tanky, and has a great buff. Not that hot of a stat line though.
>>89431094%+14 AGI is all you need for a buff/heal bot, they even gave her Bloodslay for self healing, that's pretty damn strong regardless of sub 100% statlines you're never gonna use
And Jesus Yamato himselfNot pictured: His S welfare gives him Still Blade Light
>>894320Actually wait, my mistake on that it's not Still Blade Light, it's just Still Blade +
>>894318I'm sorry excuse me? Is that 0 BP skill 1 an on demand cover for 1 turn?Oh wait>extra(?) largeSo it's 50%What other cover tanks are even up right now in JP. I thought that niche was mogged all over by mask or whatever. Oh and it reduces damage taken as wellThat's pretty neat.>>894321Damn, I was rubbing my hands in anticipation
>>894301Time to update my pity goals: Silver HW, Undine GW and PWR Bride/Wedding/whatever is this.
Floor 200 baby! Time to see if I've got what it takes to beat Macha once and for all.
Only magic can defeat magic!This was so much easier than floors 191 and 196; those were the two really big walls for me. Couldn't have done it without GLEX White Rose, what a gal. Credit to this guy again for posting good clear videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8OWUh3vXYo&ab_channel=YappiYapEven without some of his characters, I still had the core needed to do this.Now I'm going back to the big one, World Tower. I'm on floor 266 of 300 over there and I'm getting worried that it might be all boss floors from here, which would be ridiculous. Floor 260 was a boss of course, Saruin, and floor 261 was a mob floor as expected. But then Floor 262 was a boss floor instead of a mob floor, and it's been bosses ever since. Maybe things'll ease up after I kill all four Sinistrals and their true forms.
>>894365I've held off on world tower. If there's a 4th banner and by proxy a 4th GLEX to mark our anniversary I'm going to roll, first on it, than on every single banner available until I get what I want out of them all or run out of store bundles
>>894367Jesus, I wish I had that kinda money. Good luck!
>LNY macha getting a reprint
>Megami/Apollo/Kami banner in two days>Barely at 18k jewelskill me
>>894463naisu im rollan and also at about the same amount
>>894464I thought it would have been Itoken goddamn, I was betting on that one to get some stash for Megami, now I have to choose between her and saving for LDS, this is bad, doubly bad if they buff the other two.Hopefully they push Itoken and the OC banners after this so I can save some jewels, even with the new Spiral and the other rewards for the 3rd round I'll barely hit 25k.
>>894463WHAT? No. No no no. I'm not ready for those four banners. I only have 55k. I needed like another month, or at least for the rest of the anniversary jewels to roll in. Fuck. Well, at least this bottomless banner shows that I'll get another shot at the second SaGa Fest styles in 6-12 months from now to grab what I miss.
>got Apollo and Creator 1 while pulling for PWR>this banner in two daysFugg
If that banner is coming out then are we getting that SAGA II conquest that soon? Too think I managed to get Hat Creator from that infinite loop banner...
>in 2 multisShe responded to my wishes
>>894599Oh baby that Macha10/10Would happily get dropped into the sun again
>>894463Hopefuly there aren't buffs. Because goodness do I want to skipI thought at worst we'd be getting Kami but it looks like we're going into the the 31st SaGa banners now. Wait... Are we? Where's the polka family?
>>894835How good is Goddess? She has nice art but I don't know where can I see JP styles with translated skills.
>>89484025% chance to recover her health and cancel all status effects and attribute downsGives herself moral up and guard up every single turn. (25% for both effects) and recovers 1BP every turn as wellHas Tension up VISkill 1 is a 1-3BP 4 LP Fast full party heal that cures all status effects.Skill 2 4-6BP Slash/Heat Single target nukeSkill 3 is a 10-13BP SSS power light/heat nukeI can't remember if she had any longevity
>>8948504LP usage? wow, thats... a lot, isnt it? Also I know this website >>892967 , but is there any web to get the styles in HD? I can get the arts with devtools but they are in very low resolution.
>>894835You're kind of lucky, outside of some placebo stat buffs Apollo and Megami are the same as JP.Kami however got some interesting changes.Power Charge 3 has been powered up, so he now starts with 3BP and also gets back 1 BP when an attack lands, if this applies to his coin toss for chase that means he can get up to 3BP back which is big.Skill 1 now debuffs LOV (Small)Skill 2 now confuses.So it's still more or less like JP, if you got Alkaiser then Megami's not super important as much as she's still a solid unit (and very important for her later style), Kami's a bit more interesting than JP if the new passive changes apply to any attack and not just the first one, but he's still kinda niche, Apollo's basically Iskandar for INT slash/heat but if you don't have his previous style for amplifying Masamune he's really crappy.Pull or skip is up to you, guess the next banner will be LDS at this point.
>>894956And here I am hoping for buffs because the FFL styles are the most important ones that will be in 2022 for me.That confuse buff on S2 is lovely to see; I've been using Saruin and Orlouge for confusion and while I like them, it's gonna be even better getting to use a fave like Creator (and at a lower BP cost and higher INT too!). The LOV debuff confuses and scares me a little. In what content would we ever need a LOV buff, let alone one that can be spammed every turn? I hope this doesn't mean a GLEX event battle is coming up that requires this.God I'm gonna be sweating for weeks over these banners.
>>895107afaik Orlouge "should" still have the higher chance to confuse. Though obviously if it came to single target confusion, nobody is as good at that job as Wicked Witch
>suptix in JP>Not sure what to use them on because there are a few characters I want but I'm also missing matriarch 1 and 4Fuck
>>894599Macha has bigger boobs gere compared to any of her art (even official art from og game).
>>895243The brand new White Rose competes with Matriarch 1, and Matriarch 4 is pointless, I'd say if you get her you can kind of disregard Matriarch 1 and stick with somebody like ND if you have her.>>895331By now I'm convinced Kawazu rolls dices for bust sizes every time a female character gets a style, they're wildly inconsistent not just with the canon but between different styles as well.Halloween Cat having a J+ cup when she's canonically a C at best AND all of her other styles have smaller sizes than her halloween style was the most mindblowing shit ever.Luckily So-Taro's an orthodox lolicon so Rei's safe from noncanon oppai lolification at least.
Aaaahhhhh where’s spiral? So close to pity
God, Byunei's a bitch. She was so damn resistant to debuffs on floor 269, maybe more than any boss I've fought. Now I'm fighting her true form on 270 and I can't get into "the zone" where I dodge all her moves; part of that is she can debuff cleanse now so idk if I can get my buffs high enough or not. Anyone else climbing world tower?
>>895445I paused my world tower Climb to see what they pull out of the 24th stream
A STONECOLDBITCHThis was a half hour run, for nuttin'
>People doing World Tower>mfw still grinding conquestGetting people over the 1700 HP threshold is kind of a bitch>>895387gonna drop with the new banner on the 24th
>>895456Oh. Scratch that. The banner is supposedly tomorrow night. No last GLEX there. Cope is over. I'll still give it a bit just in caseNo reason not to wait until the stream.
At last, she's dead>271 is a mob floorThank Christ
I'm new. Is she it? good?
>>895533yes but not if u are new
>>895536Ok
>>895533Gale Darts hits pretty nice for an INT slash attack. Plus, Power Charge III is nice if you get Byunei 1 later and inherit Rising Earth for a fast slash attack. Those are the nice features, she's decent if you just started.
Trying to get Zeke but got 3 Alkai instead...
>>895552>pitied emelia >no zekeit wasnt meant to be...
>>895571my heart goes out for you
>>894956>Apollo's basically Iskandar for INT slash/heatMaybe I can have a redemption arc since Iskandar dodged me.Soon I'll have a Rainbow Rangers of Slashers!STR > Gustave!DEX > PizzamanAGI > AzamiINT > Apollo LOV > Leon
>>895579I wouldn't use Apollo like Iskandar, he's kind of the same role more or less, similar passives, similar rotations, but he lacks a big thing that Iskandar has, which is a Camphor Strike equivalent for self topping.He does have a pretty decent self heal that also gives him Guard Up for a couple of turns, but>1LP costThat means Apollo is actually fucked if you try to use him like Iskandar, who can sit in the frontlines just fine because Camphor Strike gives him back some 800HP every turn and stays on indefinitely without any dead turn.As an INT slasher he's not so hot either, Masamune+ is bangers but it's not a perfect rotation and he doesn't have a strong opening nuke like Golden Dragon+ either, when we look at INT slashers, nobody beats Oneesama.
>>895346>NDthe first one? Because thats the only one i have, as far as people i had in my for suptix targets is basically>megami>halloween(?) ND>toss up between ITOKEN or someone else that catches my eyeAs far as current banners i was considering actually getting WR since she looks like a porcelain doll in this alt but then im somewhat partial to sumire since shes cute
>>895979Yeah, the first ND.Good choice on those styles for suptix, between all those I'd say go for Megami if you have her concert style
Redpill me on the Goddess banner
>>896329tl:dr;Megami is a tanky ST INT attacker with an emergency heal like Alkaiser, except hers is Fast and can only be used once per fight.Will get another style later on that is considered one of the very best support styles in the game, and will benefit from the aforementioned heal.Apollo just doubles down on what the first Apollo does, except he's less tanky as the first style and is basically dead in the water if you don't have the first style to inherit Masamune+, if you do, he's basically a rough equivalent of Iskandar for INT slots, but Slash/Heat rather than Slash/Blunt, and with its own perks too since all those skills are indirect, meaning Apollo doesn't care about counter skills.Last Apollo style to this day though.Kami is again, doubling down on what Kami does best, that is INT based Sun+Random attribute AoE farming with coin tosses for chases, except this one Kami has TWO coin tosses for TWO chases, which leads to really fucking high T1 damage.Since this Kami received pretty nice buffs he's better off than JP, where he was considered one of the better sun farmers, but GL has LOTS of Sun farmers by now, so chances are you don't really need him, especially since his coin tosses are highly unstable.It's also the last Kami style to this day so just like Apollo, consider how much you'd need him.
Why'd they change Isis' English name to Goddess anyway? Green guy was always Kami in Japanese and Creator in English, but this lady was Megami in Japanese and Isis in English except in this mobile game.
>>896406Localization is kinda inconsistent, sometimes they keep the original names even though they're wrong (Emelia, notice how even the Frontier remaster uses Emilia), sometimes they retranslate them.Apollo was also kept like that instead of using the correct version, which is Apollon, Sensei was now kept as Sensei instead of the original Mr.S from the old localized version, Esper Girl was also kept as it was in the original script instead of being called Mutant F.
>>896418Yeah, it's kind of a mess
Dammit, Black X on floor 280 could be my stopping point for now. I look up a clear and the guy has all three meta DEX debuffers on the same team: Bune 3, Witch's Daughter and GLEX Undine. I only have Undine. Though the main issue seems to be, unlike every other boss that debuff cleanses, he starts his attack routine with his debuff cleanse instead of doing it after, so he's fresh as a daisy to nail me with all those 4 digit damage aoes. He can't dispel my buffs like his minions the four emperors did though, so maybe I can stack END with Golden Baum or something. That's how I beat Metal Black with only one source of DEX debuffing.
Gentlemen, I love this blob. Does she get any more styles? Not that she needs any.
>>896610She gets a valentines style later, not sure what GL will adjust thoguh.
How does the difficulty on the hidden dojo work?
>>896645Each tier has statistically stronger enemies, from tier IV onwards you'll also see different enemy batches.There's also the occasional special Dojo battles like Haniwa stages during classic SaGa banners/festival.
>>896631Nice, added to my list. Our old friend Creator comes back for floor 285 and he keeps his raid style damage race mechanic. I almost had him with Fempress/Barbara/Azami/Roc/Matriarch pain train but this comp is horribly weak to Repent. Time to enter RNG hell, which is his domain so it's fitting.
I think I'm the only one here who never do hard manual content like Romancing or higher floors in towers, I prefer to just do comfy auto-farming
>>896647tyDo the enemies scale?
>>896677With your party?No they don't
And the heavens are once again quiet. 15 floors to go but I'm stopping here for today; here's hoping I can pull this guy tonight.>>896672Nah, I think you're the majority and I'm the minority. Hell, I'm pretty sure I'm the only guy here crazy enough to be wasting hours of the day climbing towers. One of the great things about this game is that it can reach a huge variety of players. It can be as comfy or as ball-busting as you want it to be, and I think that's really nice.
>>896693>No new spiral floors
when's the spiral corridor gonna open ?
I'm fucking seething. Had to pity Goddess. Along the way I got Creator twice, Apollo three or four times and almost every plat style. Wil, TWO Azami, Albert, Thomas, Barbara, Aisha. This crazy pull in pic related was the ultimate fuck you. Two Apollo, Creator dupe and Aisha, all back to back to back. I have 23k so there is a chance that I claw back to 45k for Final Defense System and Haniwa, but the FFL3 dream is dead.
100K down to 44k. got goddess and pitied apollo. soon after the pity did one more pull and got apollo fuck my life. guess no kami for me
Went fully bankrupt, got Hector'd and only managed to snag Megami.Time to skip everything until the RS3 the Stage banners since Byunei 4>>>everything else
>8 multis >2 off bannerwelp
>pulling one day before the livestream
>>896787I see Kami I pullSimple as
We are getting fucking massacred, bros. Though idk why anyone other than an FFL nut like me is pulling; they seem pretty skippable.>>896787There's nothing they could announce that would make a difference; I've been waiting a year for this. I'll skip the Robin family banner and any GLEXes; I'm only here for FFL.
>>896787rollan for the intchads
>>896768seriously though, is it closed or is my acct bugged? I already beat 2-2-10.
>>896793Guess they'll add it tomorrow?Or maybe there will be some extra maintenance.
>>896793Bruh, it's coming back on Sunday reset.
where do I find a good weapon for Goddess ?
These new loading screens are pretty great. The Roc one is super lewd, I hope I can remember to get a cap.
>>896825Weapon exchange, get Apollo or Sherah's SS gloves>>896826That's actually pretty nostalgic since it's Pump's updated waifu trio, he's done that exact trio illustration for Emperors' SaGa, many years ago.
>>896825Equipment exchange. There's some equipment medals in the Goddess event shop you can grab to buy her an SS weapon. Specifically you are looking for the Demonbird Claw. Gloves of Sorrow is the only other SS weapon for an INT martial arts user like Goddess/Creator/Apollo but that one gives a tiny penalty to healing so it's better for someone like Creator instead.
Is this event a global event? Because the SAGA II banner had a Saga II conquest going on.
Did a morbius sweep and got everyone in 11 pulls. 75k now so I think I'm cool for a while (if nothing appears)
>>896901I'm pretty sure it is. I'm hoping since this is Round 4 of anniversary and we've never seen a festival have more than 4 rounds, they'll delay the other FFL banners.>>896906Damn, congrats. I wish I had your jewels so bad.
>>896418>localizationKawazaa...
>>896901It's not.
>>896901Looks like it, they changed the GL timeline for these banners quite a bit, Spiral is coming later than it did in JP and Itoken's banner was also before these classic SaGa banners iirc.Maybe next week they'll also pull the SaGa 2 raid since it does look like they'll also pull the LDS banner after this one, sure wouldn't mind since I'm completely and utterly broke
feels great finally getting the unit at 14000 into the pity.
>>897341That was me on the prefecture banner. Been rough lately.
>>897386Yeah, that's the one I was talkin' about last night!Also saved this gem, I've only seen it once.
Stream is live
TW stream later this month confirmed to be the next big preview of content, not much coming out of today's stream.
The mobs on floor 291 are fucking insane. I might have to put Fempress on the team just to Imperial Shield turn 1. They outspeed and quad digit aoe on turn 1, shit's crazy.
>>897509when's later this month? There's only 6 days left in it. And I'm not sure if I want to go through WT now or not. Since there's no new fun stuff today. I was expecting either ITOKEN, GLEX, or Robin and got none of the above
>>897570No idea, that's just what they said. That there would be a TW stream later this month and that would have the bulk of RSRS upcoming content, the next preview "batch" so to speak.I hope we get those three banners you were hoping for next, as I gotta save up something desperate.Imperial Shield got me past 291, now I'm trying my luck vs Ludwig, Maximus and their minions on 295.
>>897573Guess I'll start pushing towerThink I stopped at 213Been pushing mob floors with this groupAt the point that I'm getting outspeed consistently I'm taking out TL and putting in Fempress Normally I wouldn't bother but AFAIK those accessories are GLEXAnd I aims to have them
>>897583Best of luck dude. If I can do it without either of those witches, you got this.
This clear of 295 was one of the closest fights ever. Mariah got pure barrier off before dying on Princess Lion, who started the round with 160 hp. She somehow ate two hits (must've been at single digit hp) and that was exactly enough to kill. If this didn't kill, I'd have lost. I really need to go grind this girl, she's amazing even at 1600 hp.
They just dropped a hint at the very end of the stream: "Who else likes Katarina?" Could she be the first one to get a second GLEX?
>>897618You misunderstand, the answer is Jackal GLEX because he sure did love Katarina
>>897586It's significantly easier than can be expected at this moment tbf. If a wave can be paralyzed. Soul Freeze WILL work.I might go fetch creator though just so I have a more reliable AOE confusion specialistActually I might just go in on that banner period because AoE sun attackers are welcome.Though I'm obviously not going to splurge just this moment..My cope has been moved to the TW stream whenever that happens this month.
I should mention the stream was a RS3 stream and by popular vote Glacie was playiing Ellen's route, but she stopped near the end of the stream specifically so she could go show off the opening section of Katarina's route. Something's up.>>897628Nice. I should've used paralyze more, mostly relied on confusion and stun. Ludwig on 299 is a real jerk, I might have to go maximum turtle on this.
>>897639>didn't get Scattered Petals Katarina out of the last SuptixBoy I hope I don't end up regretting this.
>>897639>I should've used paralyze moreI wouldn't even consider the strat if it wasn't for evelyn tbqh
This is insane. The only clears of Ludwig on 299 I could find that I can replicate take 40+ minutes per successful attempt. Without Snowy, maximum turtling seems to be the only way, but it's so rng. Best I've done in the last hour is get him to 75%. I might not have the time in the day to dedicate this, but there's no way I wanna give up on the Proof just one floor above me!
>>897670I'll let you know what my strategy is when I get up there as I also don't have snowy
>>897707I did it. But by God that was a looooong battle. My last tango with the clown will have to wait until tomorrow, I'm spent for the day.Here's the strat btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacUTE_t_y8&ab_channel=YappiYap
Got Kami and Goddess, extremely tempted to go for the hat version of Kami on that unlimited banner. Don't want to imagine what will happen when ITOKEN arrives or if we get another GLEX Katerina
>>897839A potential GLEX Kat has me sweating bullets. I hope IF and that's a big IF. IF they do her they run another suptix and/or rerun for the sacred petals styleIF and only IF it's required for that new style. Otherwise I'm gonna be a real sad fella.
>>897841If another GLEX Kat happens and it turns out to be a bridal Kat, then I will know without a doubt that there are Square Enix devs lurking in here since I posted a few threads back about willing to spend money for a GLEX bride Undine or Kat.
>>897847I'll spend money on anything as long as it's GLEX. They gave me GLEX Vampy and GLEX Azami and that was basically everything I wanted. That Barbara is as good as she is, is a nice bonus. I don't actually have any other wants to be honest. HmmGLEX SophiaGLEX PrimieraThough to be fair the changes to anni Sophia basically made her a GLEX. Albeit a rather bad one that I still used because I'm not turning my back on damage reduction.
Any idea when we'll get an SS Fire element Club?Having to use an S club on Ninja Wil really sucks
>another GLEX slasherI sleepWhat we need is more GLEX bow users that are not just coomerbait for feetfags
>>898017>Bow usersSo more Claudias?Because Akatsuki still refuses to acknowledge anyone but Claudia, which means the entire bow category will remain a joke as you can't fill your comps with Claudias
>>897993There's one in Wil's event. It's in the Prefecture conquest shop iirc
>>897993Aren't we getting the crafting system that will turn all non-dual element SS weapons useless pretty soon?
Wew, looks like Igomahl on floor 300 is gonna require another extreme turtling strat with Tiger's Den (or Turtle's Den as I've started to call it). Gonna have to set aside a couple hours later today to give it a shot.Here's what the special accessory does. I don't have it yet, but I can look at it on the floor 300 rewards menu.
I'm looking at the JP banner list and I'm seeing a new Katarina banner just before the first Liam banner...maybe instead of a GLEX, we're getting another time-traveling banner? I'd welcome that, gives me time to save for more FFL.
>>898143Probably next month or august, it's hard to say considering GL's erratic pace and changes to schedule.>>898176I seriously hope that's not the case, if they move the Stage banners now when I'm completely broke I'm fucking done for, I can't afford skipping Byunei 4
>>898177I'm still kicking myself in the ass for skipping Byunei 3. Diving into the eventual rerun is going to ruin me
>>898167I took a break from climbing for most of today to farm ND up past 1500 hp. Just in case. I also dragged Ruby with me. Also just in case.>20 to everythingYep that's terrific. I can't remember the match to how far that goes but at the very least two characters I have would benefit greatly.
>Floor 300 strats always have Matriarch 3>I don't have that.>At floor 210I have the other four units at least, question is who can fill in the gap for M3? I still have one hell of a climb to make and I still have to work on Scarlet...
>>898167The tower is going to become permanent at one point right? Or should I just start coping with the fact I'm not going to get this accessory.
For the floor bosses past 210 I notice some players debuff DEX, apparently the bosses start using DEX-based moves now or is there something else going on?
>>898199Same, Bune 3 is my biggest regret. If they do another paid pull for 15k medals with the next bottomless, I will straight up buy her if I don't have the 33k jewels to spare for that bottomless. The current one has everything from 1st anni to 1.5 anni, which means the next one should have styles from just after 1.5 anni (which would be Bune 3's banner) to the 2nd anniversary we're having now. It's gonna be an incredibly good banner for me to pull on as I did a lot of skips these past six months (and yet am still poor because holy shit I have to pity so often).>>898201>Just in caseNarwhal is practically my MVP. Outside of probably a single digit number of mob floors, she was on my team for every fight from 250 to 300. It's easy to grind her now as she has triple gains on Nacht's event; I think she has the highest stats of all my staff characters atm.Really looking forward to this Halloween.>>898224Always pull for Mama. More seriously, I pulled her on release and never used her until this most recent World Tower to help on some boss floors past 250. This is pretty much all she seems good for. If you have Snowy, he might cover the WIL buffing you need. GLEX PWR can buff WIL as well. I don't think END buffing is as important as Igomahl seems to mostly use magic, but Golden Baum's a great END buffer and overall damage mitigator with Shrine Dance (which I keep forgetting lasts for 2 turns so I don't need to spam it).>>898229I don't know. This is the 4th time we've had it on global. I thought we were only gonna get it 3 times. Last time added floors 250 to 300. This time added an actual reward to clearing it instead of just jewels. It no longer has a place in the story so if they rerun it, it'd be like any other rerun event I suppose. An anon here once told me about all the future towers coming up, I really should've saved that post. You should start coping and if it helps, it's not gonna make or break your account.
>>898241Check the enemy skills. If they have a weapon icon that's not a fist, you're gonna want a DEX debuffer. Luckily, just one single target DEX debuffer should do (that's all I have). It's not like the damn SSG tower that wants aoe DEX debuffing. Though I managed to beat that without it just by putting both Golden Baum and GLEX PWR on the same team and it somehow worked.
>>898241You debuff DEX when it comes to non MA physical skills since that's what regulates their accuracy, AGI is for casters/martial arts as that's what regulates spell accuracy, AGI isn't a catchall debuff, you have to choose your debuffers accordingly which is why Byunei 4 is insanely valuable since she debuffs both AGI and DEX at the same time.
>>898199This banner was by far my peak luck, I got her, Forneus and Ferdinand with just 6000 jewels, after that it was all downhillSadly I don't her previous 2 styles
>>898253That's the thing, I have every other buffing unit and M1+2 so I hope the other units can cover her slot. I seem to miss some key units like M3 and Time Lord, and I missed out probably because I left the game in a small bout of frustration and returned during the beginning of the 2nd part of Ancient War.I have plenty of debuffers at least, I need another Seeker's Cave and just start skill grinding like mad. Maybe the new prefecture units can work too, Skya looks like a nice support unit.
Welp, time to grind Evelyn more.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0atUegsjxo
>>898269Wicked Witch strategies have been how I've been climbing world tower. If it can get paralyzed all I have to do is last long enough for it to be paralyzed.
>>898269Oh THAT. That fucking fight. Five hours it took of various teams and attempts to win. Fuck, how did I do it again? I don't have Evelyn.Oh right, it was this >>893572 I didn't grind out Hero's Amulet+, I think I just used whatever SS accessory gives resistance to all ailments, Gold Feather Charm iirc. Hero's Amulet is better, you can grind them from the final stage of Mirsa's tower. Surviving that first round's paralyze is the big deal.
>>898269even my normal team auto team stopped working until i slapped her in for the between boss stages shes just helpful everywhere
>>898017Bow? So we just need something that shoots arrows right?GLEX Clyde
I beat World Tower! Take that, clown! She was much easier than Ludwig, she didn't have any scary attacks like he did. I'm very happy I got to use my bro Mirsa, my favourite male character in the game, to take down the toughest bosses.>no "clear" on the event like there is on the SSG towerMaybe they'll add even more floors in the future? To everyone else attempting the climb: good luck!
>>898473>Good luckI'm gonna need itI ended up having to stop my climb to go raise TariaI'm on 258 right nowI much prefer boss floors to be honest. They may take longer but I don't have to think nearly as muchAnyways ideally Taria will be finished by tomorrow and I'll be back climbing soon. She was missing with her petrify and there's two ways to really deal with that but I don't want to do either of them.
>>898448>Vampire wizards>With guns
>>898479The good news is, mob floors disappear for a awhile once you get past floor 261. They don't become a regular thing again until 281 forward. Though the mobs got so bad in the 290s, I ended up using what looked more like a boss team for them: Mama/ND/PWR/Macha/Final Empress. Goal being to buff Macha's INT and AGI for Rock Sting spam and rely on the other buffs plus Imperial Shield to last long enough until I had the mobs in a corner.
>>898129Shit you're right I even bought it. It's the balloon club.It's not really Firey looking so I just over looked it.
>>892185Wew, you were not kidding about Evelyn. I'm sooo glad she's not a tower boss.Emboldened by my World Tower victory, I decided to go back and try the five most recent attacks, hoping I'd powercreep them. I did, but damn Evelyn was giving me trouble on Challenge 3, not even Romancing. That is, until I put my gal Monika on the team and then she was easy and didn't give me aids even once. Very glad to get to put Monika to work on some hard content. Just have Tu Kwai left, shouldn't be too bad. I might even be able to beat Wasteland War for another thousand jewels.
>>898868I wonder how good Ginny will be at debuffing when I max out her two skills, I know enemies lover to counter direct attacks, at least her debuffs are large, and she can fire them off every other turn with her support skill. Apparently Dahao SS had a double debuff of AGI and CEX, have you guys been able to clear out the content without Dahao/Witch's Daughter?
>>898903I thought about raising Ginny real quick but I haven't gotten around to it. I have all of her styles but somehow I never got around to it.
>>898903>have you guys been able to clear out the content without Dahao/Witch's Daughter?I've been able to do all 200 floors of the SSG tower and all 300 floors of World Tower along with, just now, all the Attacks, and the main meta styles I seem to be missing when I look at other clear videos are >Dahao/Witch's Daughter>Bune 3>Evelyn/Wicked Witch>SnowyIt's possible to beat all that without any of those, so long as you have other things.But man, I really, really wish I had those styles. I'm trying Wastelands War (Bertrand) 5 and I die to the mobs on wave 2 of 10. I don't think I can beat this without a source of aoe DEX debuffing. The only source of DEX debuffs I have is my #1 girl Undine's Chill; man she has been putting in a lot of work lately.
>>898690I regret my bemoaning. I've been slowly beating every single boss to death via evasion memes
Got to F180 on the SSG tower, need to build up daughter so I can have a 3rd AGI debuffer unit because the bug is starting to filter me. I have over 2 days to get her and some other unites almost ready, hopefully the HP ticks are generous as I grind in the sauna.
the worm in ssg 191 is wrecking me , what does this guy needs, dex debuff?i cannot seem able to resist him for longer than 3 or 4 turns, shits tough
>>899053Yeah...that's why I said "the good news" but didn't mention the bad. I did the same thing.>>899071That's the big hurdle, you need DEX debuff for that floor. Somehow I won without aoe DEX debuffing, just Undine focusing her debuff on the boss while Golden Baum and GLEX PWR buffed my END and WIL to the sky.
so should I use "balanced" formation when farming conquest ? Because when I used a focus-on-one-person formation the enemy hit much harder.
oh got 450 days
>>899089i just use rainbow rangers while letting everyone die
lady luck finally came
>>899121Very nice! I'm still recharging my luck batteries after last banner.
>>899129ya gotta start saving soon incase theres some summer c00m banner
>>899138That's an interesting point. The recent "summer" banner in JP didn't actually arrive in summer and I'm not sure if there are any other swimsuit banners between where we are now and that one.
>>899121I really wanted faerie but I got bow bird so that'll have to do
Got nothing, not even old SS styles, until the last pull and this happened. Hell yeah, great way to end the day.
Been on 269 for hoursThis shits giving me an existential crisisI wanna put hands around the numbskull who decided to put the GLEX accessories up there at 300
>>899333Which one was that again? Bune's first form? Pretty sure that was a rough one I bitched about here and then posted my eventual clear.
>>892909I'm this anon, finally reached 40k+ party after a busy week, now I'll be able to play more (only at 7-2-1 in the story at the moment, have to keep playing and reached 80k jewels right now). This team is really fun, but I need a better weapon for my Final Empress and Human Female. Then, I'll start farming for both armor/head... Thanks for helping me, anon(s). You made me discover this gacha again and why I loved it.
>>899880If you have equipment medals you can get one SS G. Sword with sun element in the exchange shop but from what I heard the crafting system they will implement soon turns most SS weapons pointless
>>899584Yeah it was Bune's first form. Everything else is just getting fucked up now with little to no effortThe strength of some of these things is so lopsided
>>899883Ouch, then I should just keep farming stats and then go for armor while I wait for that crafting system? Because if the SS weapons wont be that good I can save the medals just in case.
>>899333At least the tower is open for another month. I have about 2 days left until SSG tower closes up and I'm at floor 180. I'll try RF with Virgil and reduce AGI this time.
>>899880You're very welcome, glad you're having fun!>>899889So I take it you made it past her? Her first form's main issues iirc are being weirdly hard to debuff for the first few rounds compared to other bosses and her constant counter stance.
>>899911Virgil does it again, saved me a lot of grief and managed to send out a lout of fireworks to boot too! Going through floors 181~190 was an easy coast, and now I am left with the boss rush. I'll have to train Mariah's Acupuncture since I need another STR debuffer for one of the fights. Mama's S-rank style Maiden was an event only deal, right? I don't have that.
>>899999Holy fucking get Anon, DAMN!And yeah, it was event only but they've found various ways to make past limited welfare styles available, so you should get another shot one day. Make sure to bring a DEX debuffer for 191! Preferably aoe.
>[Critical: God]>ChainsawMaybe I should play the mainline games after all
>>900060The first three SaGa games are my favourite GameBoy games, they're pretty fun. There's a great story behind your pic, but it's kind of a spoiler.
>>899962the constant counter stance and surviving the first rounds were easy. What was fucking me is her attacking one person 4 turns in a row forcing a restart at 20% hp left.
Love me vampyJust need one more GLEX that plays nice with her and she'll be in my clear teams until I turn gray and crumble to dustAlso good lord that anon wasn't kidding about floor 191. These jackasses chunk the shit out of me even in tigers den..
Gonna pull for her later, I don't mind if I have to reach pity. Pray for me anons...
>>900060>He doesn't knowI somewhat envy you because your first time playing through these games is always magical, but yeah go play them because you'll miss all the jokes and references like the one in your pic
>>900366nocurse youwe will suffer together
>>897594Much like car, this took far longer than it should have or would have had I decided to not be stubborn.
So how does the Data Transfer feature work?My old phone is dying and I got a new one today, do I have to reselect the server and link the data after that? Kinda worried about fucking something up as the procedure isn't explained all that well.
>>900569If your account is linked to one of the options then you can login via that account from any devicet. went through the same thing as you
>>900609So after setting up the server I just start the game as usual from the main screen and I get automatically linked to my account?
>>900366Good luck!>>900440Nice, you're almost there!>>900569Yeah, I worry about this every time I have to do it. First, make sure you went into the options on your old phone and linked with a service (I think the options are Google Play Games and Facebook iirc, I went with the former).Then, install the game on your device. Tap the title screen when it pops up, it'll ask you to select a server. Go with whatever server your old account was on (not sure how important this part is desu, I've never tried switching servers). The title screen will refresh, there should be a data link button at the bottom. Tap that and you should be able to data transfer so long as your new device has whatever account your game is linked to set as the account you're using on it too (so same Google Play Games or Facebook account is active on the new device). Then you should have to download a bunch of data and once that's done, it'll load into your game.
>>900614So I have to press the Data Link button on the new phone too?I thought that would override the data from the old phone by reading what the message says, does the download go automatically on game startup? I don't see any option about it on the main screen.Sorry about that but after two years I'm kinda worried about losing everything.
>>900620Yes, it's very misleading and scary, but that how it goes. Well wait, the Data Link button is what you press on your new phone. First, on your old phone, get into your actual game where you're looking at people walk around in Vanguard.Then hit Menu on the upper right. Then hit the Data Link button on that Menu screen. This is all on your old phone, which I hope works enough to do this or you've already done it in the past. It'll ask you to link a service. Pick one, then the link will be established (you've probably already done this).Then on the new phone, with a fresh install and having already logged into the service you linked with on this new device using the same account for that service, you tap Data Link at the bottom of the title screen as soon as it pops up. It'll ask you once again to link a service, this is the poorly-worded part. Tap the same service and what it actually means is that it will transfer over data if it finds any game data already linked to that service via the same account you're logged into on that device.If you don't see the Data Link button on the title screen, tap the title screen and it should give the server select screen, then take you back to the title screen but with the Data Link button on it now.
>>900620Oh, and if you can, take a screenshot of your player information screen on your old phone before you data transfer in case something fucks up. That'll help support get your account back if something goes truly wrong.And also note that once you transfer, you won't be able to play the game on your old device unless you first uninstall it then reinstall and transfer back to it. This game only lets you play on one device at a time.
>>900626Okay, many thanks for the help anon, new phone says it linked my data, so it should be fine, I hope.Is it normal to not see my player ID on the starting screen? Does it update when I actually log into the game?
>>900630You're welcome and yeah, it's normal not to see your ID on the title screen. Yet another misleading part of this process that makes it seem scary. If the fresh install on the new phone said it linked your data after you tapped Data Link, then hit the title screen and wait for a big data download prompt. Then sit back, nervously relax and wait for that data to download and it should bring up your familiar home screen automatically after the download completes. Prepare to be annoyed as you will have to sit through various features like Hidden Dojo and Robin Cup unlocking again, and grinding will sometimes be halted as the first instance tutorial messages will pop up again the first time you spark a skill or rank up a skill or combo during combat, etc. Also, any paid jewels will only transfer if you're going from an Android device to another Android device or Apple to Apple. If it's Android to Apple or vice versa, they'll stay on your old device. Free jewels will carry over though.
>>900613Kinda. After you pick server a button'll show up in the bottom right.>>900614>Nice, you're almost there!Ludwig might be my limitNone of my SBL users are even remotely leveled or uncapped for the fight besides Leon (who doesn't seem good enough) and I can't outspeed his big deeps using the other method. I was hoping matriarch alone could handle soul freeze but she's not good enough by herself and neither is pumpkin PWR if by herself. Gotta use a combination of two of either mat/pwr/ND. I'm currently spending a tiny amount of time weighing a hell of a lot of strategiesin order to figure out one that'll let me weasel my way to victory with what I've got leveledI could try out Shen Du but he's not trained and I only have enough uncap materials for the 3 (potential) Glex we'll probably (not) get for the stream on the 30th. I saw a cheeky Mystic Asellus strat that I think I can appreciate but my Ginny (which is the cornerstone of that strat) is the furthest thing away from being a developed character. Also my Mat is taking like 1k in Den from mortal darkweb despite being a developed character despite having like 46 dark resist and I don't know what to do to fix that mess. I thought it was directly related to "Will" but Vampy takes like 1400 and she's got like 96 dark resist. Meanwhile Emelia doesn't feel a thing.
>>900646Well, at least you have over a month to grind with some new stat caps on the way too. Dark resist is good for Ludwig but you'll also want a lot of slash resist. When the last 50 floors got added, a lot of people got stuck on 299. Do yo have the styles I used here >>897715? Leon might be able to sub for Mirsa, though it'll make the fight even longer as he does less damage. Being immune to dark damage really helped too, though if the other four managed to survive, whoever you use in place of Mirsa should be able to live too. Sounds like grinding is the way to go.
>>900636>>900646All went well, many thanks again anons, may you be blessed with many years of good pulls
>>900429>>900614Got her at 10 multis, maybe I go for 5 more multis? I don't know, I'm only missing 1 of them 3 but I don't feel like doing it.
>>900665Glad to hear it and thanks, same to you!>>900671I'd stop if I were you, congrats. Only go to pity if you absolutely need that last one.
The bastards finally did it. Round boy is here! His SS can't come soon enough. Also new Lyza gets DSC!
>>900682>Professor FINALLY gets a new style>Liza gets DSC>S RockyNow give me SS Rainbow Gucky, Akatsuki
>>900646Oh, one more thing about Ludwig that you've probably already figured out: he follows a script. Those big aoe fuck you turns with Crescent Slash/Rolling Slash + Demise happen at set intervals and at certain intervals he will tack a Mortal Darkweb onto the end of the turn (after removing debuffs for an extra fuck you) he does those aoes. I never figured out the exact pattern, which is why it could be useful to have a clear video open while you do it so you can "preview" what the next turn will be.>>900682Nice, Rocky dabbin'>Also new Lyza gets DSC!Holy shit yes!
>was expecting summer roc or something>Get summer byunei insteadThis is nice. Also is sumire worth getting? She's cute but idk if I'm gonna use her much though
I give up, that fucking worm is too cheap.Made a team with glex empress, glex undine, Baum chan, matriarch and byunei, tried to stuff him with dex debuffs but he never misses
>>900694Do you have GLEX White Rose? If you do, you can try >>892376. Rapid Stream sounds unintuitive for a defensive team, but stacking buffs made me eventually does everything. I think the only debuffing I did was casting Chill on the big worm every turn. Matriarch spammed PoV, White Rose normal attacked and used her s3 (PPP) whenever it was up, Narwhal did the same with Water Festival and Baum used Shrine Dance and then once I started dodging she used Have Some More to top off my hp plus it hits weakness for more damage.
>>900703*eventually dodge everything
>>900703I cannot believe how easy it was with your suggestion, they started dodging everything since turn 3.Undine died but her work was done, thank you SaGa bro
>>900784No problem, glad my experience could help others. I still don't understand how it works but fuck it, it works.
>>900688>he follows a script.Yeah that part I'm intimate with. I wrote down them going on to turn 11. Because I've made it that far I'm pretty confident I could create some alternative strategies that brute forced my ass right through
>>900646>I saw a cheeky Mystic Asellus strat that I think I can appreciate but my Ginny (which is the cornerstone of that strat) is the furthest thing away from being a developed character. I just saw that Scher fella made a video on a Mystic Asellus strat for Ludwig and it doesn't use Ginny! I hope this can help you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6zuHZxiw8&ab_channel=ScherBR
>>900960Oh, that's actually a way better strat than the cheeky one I saw. Probably going to cause a gazillion resetsI'm halfway tempted to wait and see what the banner after reset is as depending on what it is, I'll probably be walking into 300 with a more... themed team. Still a bit sad we didn't get a GLEX Ludwig
>>901361>>900960I'll admit, this is mighty fucking cheekyThis is cheekier then the cheekiest romancing I've done. I went a bit different and used Imperial shield 2 times back to back for turns 3 and 4 to improve stability and inherited Moon Flash (or V-impact if you're feeling lucky for your NDs +1 BP improved loops)All you have to do is get moderately lucky with the counters and the fight plays itself.What a silly thing.Also there's only one accessory? For some reason I thought there were two. Whatever. I'm 100% going to hold off on 300 though so I can run a themed attrition team dependent on what the next banner is.
>>900960That's more or less the same approach I used for Romancing GLEX Ludwig, not surprised.To be fair Asura's Wrath being a critical against humans makes Mystic Asellus really valuable in a lot of boss content, she's really good in the Tu Kwai/Bertrand attacks for that reason because she can do a lot of critical damage while being relatively safe.
>>901508I did end up using her for Tu Kwai Challenge 3 but benched her for Forneus for Romancing 'cause she resists Asellus' counter, making it only do 20k damage while she's weak to Forneus'.>>901371Nice! Congrats on making it to 300, it's not as bad as 299. Whatever theme you go with, you'll want to focus on WIL buffing and dark resist. Igomahl doesn't have any big fuck you attacks, unlike Ludwig who had three or four.
I wonder how much paralyze resist he gave his units for this strat. Surprised he used Jo but it worked out, maybe the constant INT debuff works as he cleanses debuffs every turn. I'll have to set the stones on the amulets and I can try to finish it before it closes when I get back from work. Maybe mix it up with Christmas Rei or Saruin if he manages to get the stats from the auto-farm I setup.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX3b3UsOJUc
>>901699Good luck bro. 195 and 196 were the final walls for me, the rest is easy. 196 was especially awful.
when can we expect any news about upcoming banner?
>>901753Tomorrow since there will be a community stream, chances are they'll drop it right after that too.It's most probably going to be the other GB SaGa banner too since they pushed Megami's banner earlier than JP
>>901777>still 6k shy of 45kI'm not ready for my boy Hanichad for FDS. Tomorrow either my worst fears will be confirmed, or I'll breathe a huge sigh of relief.
>>901777I'm not sure what we've got going on because AFAIK Polka family should be going on right here. I wonder if they're going to do another summer banner.
>not a single new SS style from new spiral corridor tickets>even got past spiral Gerard styleBetter luck next month I guess...
>>901896Honestly at this point it could be either the LDS banner, Robin family banner or even Itoken's banner, it's hard to say because they're not following the JP release order, there's also the possibility of a surprise GLEX banner.Even the spiral update came later than it did in JP this time around so whatever they will pull tomorrow is anyone's guess
>couldnt pass 190
Fucking Sigfrei blueballed my progress until the paralysis and poison hit. Even then he stalled me to prevent full completion, got up to 198 and didn't have enough time. Hopefully there wasn't anything special at floor 200 because World Tower is next. I'll say this: most of the boss fights in SSG were too debuff dependent. Sigfrei would be a fun fight if it weren't for the extreme damage and limited ways to heal.
>>902011Don't worry, I beat the SSG tower and there wasn't anything special at the top. You missed out on like 90 jewels, s'all good senpai
so is FFA1 the best formation to buy since AGI is best stats ?
>>902013That's good to hear, thanks for that. I have more units to raise; the Nacht event needs catching up and the 4 units representing that event need their stats raised..
>>902014The most useful formations are >Rainbow Rangers (best overall, good for farming)>Rapid Stream (AGI strats in high difficulty content)>Tiger's Den (turtling strats in rare high difficulty content where Rapid Stream doesn't work)>Anima Stream (good for mage teams) >Amazon Raid EX (good for STR teams)>Deadly Pierce EX (good for DEX teams)>Desert Lance EX (good for counter strats)I don't see myself using any other formations.>>902022Good luck with the grind! I'm about to blow exactly 2600 2nd anniversary plat tickets and see if Evelyn finally comes home.
>the very first 10 pull, 2525 tickets leftI spit in the face of plat hell! I am so fucked on the next actual banner I try to get lucky on.
>>902031Thanks!Is Asellus' first SS style in plat hell? I'm still missing Mirage Step even to this day.
>>902038Sadly no, all of her styles are limited except the S style from the Asellus tower. Mirage Step was on her second limited SS style.
Well. A deals a deal. I'm going to get all 3 GLEX. Sweep Kami's banner. And clean house of ITOKENAnd if I get lucky on any of them I'm going to get Skya.
Now the question is: Worth pulling for them three GLEX or they aren't that good? Though I love Katarina and having 90k is tempting... But I'm saving for the future too..
>GLEX Emerald when I'm completely fucking brokeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>902028>>Desert Lance EX (good for counter strats)I hate that they made a counter formation but it is still inferior to this. We need a better counter boost formation.
>>902484Honest opinions>ThereseTherese is outrageously tanky for a bow slot unit and both rapid fire and double phoenix arrow dip twice on her breath of invigoration IOn top of the fact that she gets Very Large defense boost per turn (Should be 30% less damage) and a big dex buff.Means her Rapid fire is actually 6 BP and Double Phoenix Arrow is actually 7 BP. In a Paen of Peace strat she's damn close to invulnerable.Double Phoenix Arrow dunks on her Dex though but I'm fairly certain nobody else is getting fire damage that high on a loop like that. Phoenix Arrow is a 38 so presumably double is 76. Goes off on turn 1 and 3. Debuffs dex each use. >KatKatarina has what looks to be a 50% chance to chase any skill with watermeon cut, great END and Wil values, and our first Defense Down (should be 10-15% defense down).Aside from her stupidly high defensive sturdiness, she has access to every single inherit from previous styles of which there are a lot.Welfare SS gives her a 6 BP C power aoe she can loop 3 turns in a row (gleaming way it is not, but it's there)Moulin Rouge probably triggers on both hits making the highest theoretical damage 74 or SSSS power. not bad all things considered.Basically she's 'not dying' harder than Therese either. Takes 50% less damage.>EmeraldEmerald, is a bit easier to understand. Starts agi dodging earlier against single target thanks to skill 3 -> 30%-22.5 -> -45% where it then plateaus. Single target better left to other people.Where she shines is groups or aoe direct attacks. Guarantee counters with firestorm + which nukes AGI. Can't be understated how stupidly good that can be.Takes 25% less damage.They're not game changers outside of maybe Emerald who absolutely stomps on m.arts monsters and mixed parties with casters. Kat's defense down can potentially let you do some cheeky bullshit when combined with GLEX Barbara. Should also add that ITOKEN getting Ironwall VI (50% less damage) long term expands his use.
>>902524Have the styles from the ITOKEN banner changed as well? I managed to get all but him in 8 rolls. I pray to the gods I don't have tp pity.
>>902524Tried 2 multis and got both Kat and Emerald, so it seems I got what is powerful. Thanks for the explanation anon.
>>902467good luck anon >>902484gotta get those emeralds
>>902529think they added a str down to lobsters skill 2. You wouldn't be landing that shit on anything that matters but it's not all that bad after a few buffs with his 80% int mod. Valdor skill 2 heals himself. Real prize is still taking Vortex Breaker from his last style and slapping it onto this one for a turn 2 SS power Aoe. Anyways, net wise we're almost there. Status effects aside, we only need one really good character that inflicts defense down and the GLEX units we've gotten, a good chunk of which are all survival specialists, will enable more types of cheeky attrition strats.
>>902484The GLEX are all good to greatLet's do the usual breakdown one by one>EmeraldProbably the most interesting style in this banner, GLEX Emerald is a mixed defensive support style that is kind of unique as it has lots of different tools, it's a deceivingly complex toolkit.Let's start off with her first passive, it's an automatic counter that makes her fire off Firestorm+, this is amazing for three different reasons.1) Firestorm + is a C power Heat AoE, nobody in the game has anything like this, the closest will be Plat Human M which uses UDX Human M Skill 2, but that's a Blunt+Slash attack2) Much like Human M, this is an invaluable tool for stopping any boss who loves to chain multiple direct attack together, this will stop any chain dead on, for free, even if the attack doesn't connect with Emerald and she dodges3) Firestorm+ debuffs AGI, shouldn't need to explain why this is extremely valuableHer second passive is Apollo's passive more or less, coupled with 70%END means Emerald can actually be kinda tanky, especially for a caster, again, very valuable.Skill wise you have Beach Cocktail+, Summer Ellen's skill, except this one lasts for 2 rounds, which is really great on manual as Emerald can give steroids to other people in the party at zero BP and build up for her Skill 3.Skill 3 is basically a Heat+Sun, INT based Double Crash, which while not being super up to date as a nuke it still hits really thanks to Emerald's stats and passives AND keeps debuffing AGI, not to mention it only costs 8BP.Inheritance wise you have other options to add versatility, such as Scorch for ST Instakill, Fireball+ or Fire Whip+ for ST heat and paralysis.This Emerald's only weakness is lack of options for Auto patterns her rotations just aren't great on auto even if she buffs her INT with melee attacks, still it's a 9/10 easily, much better style than the Sapphire summer JP welfare.
>>902561>KatarinaAs usual with GLEX styles, this is a style geared for future content of turtling battles of attrition.Passive one is a large chance to chase with Watermelon Cut, which regens a good portion of HP even if it misses, considering this GLEX Kat can stack TWO HP regen effects with her skill 1 it is ridiculously strong as an option even if it's a dice roll, this means that Kat can potentially top herself off whenever she wants.To this you add Ironwall Defense VI and the result is an extremely tanky style.Crashing Wave Flash is a Row skill that inflicts Defense Down, but it's honestly not the most important part of this style, the best part of this style is being able to inherit the Alarm! skill from her old style in the Hilda banner so you can chase twice with Moulin Rouge AND watermelon cut for pretty massive damage on a 7>0>7 rotation, she's basically a less tanky but more offensive version of the recent Iskandar style, which is really, really good as Iskandar himself can currently fucking shred a lot of content on his own really easily, but lacks the DPS peaks of this GLEX Kat in exchange for being a bit more stable in performance and having better WIL capacity thanks to the stacking self buffs.Overall another easy 9/10 with a bright future ahead, maybe 8/10 if you want to bitch about the inconsistent nature of dice rolls for Watermelon Cut but rest assured this is a very strong style for bossing even if it kinda sucks for farming.
>>902570>ThereseTherese keeps being the only bow user who boldly dares to put up some resistence against Claudia supremacists.Unlike the other two styles Therese is refreshingly straightforward, all she wants is damage and self sustain+buffing.She has an effective 4BP rotation with a very small HP regen thanks to her passive 1, this alone puts her above the vast majority of bow users.She has an Apollo equivalent for DEX stacking but with a VERY large defense boost, this is fantastic because again, it's geared for future content when you need people to have defensive capabilities.Skill wise Solar Arrow+ helps DEX stacking on rotations and also covers Sun if you need it, with it Therese recovers 2BP every round she uses that.Rapid Fire is a decent Row skill with dual coverage, and again, stacks DEX buffs even furthere.Even more ridiculous is skill 3 which is Double Dark Blade for Pierce+Heat, but at 9BP, AND with more DEX stacking and a free heal, this is pretty much the best DPS skill any bow user can have right now, forget about Claudia entirely because Therese isn't taking it Thereasy anymore and she means business.So yeah, pretty simple kit but tremendously effective for Pierce+Heat DPS on a DEX spot, considering bow users have the innate advantage of not caring about counters either, this means Therese is also pretty damn good.
had to pity him felt pretty risky since i was at 11 multi with nothing but got all 3 by the end
I probably won't be rolling on these banners but man oh man is Therese's art fucking awesome.The best part is that her bikini top looks more like a bra.
I dont see the hype for Itoken. He's like Matriarch but a man.
>>902576I'm going into that banner soon(ish)Scratch that, I went into it just now. >>902543>good luck anonIt was almost a blood bath. Didn't get any featured until apollo on #11 and didn't get Goddess until #15. Letting me safely pity Creator.I safely picked up Will and Claudia in low rollsCleaned out Emelia's banner and got MeiLingSwung up and got Ventus, Laura, and Ruby (but Iskandar didn't come home and I'm not going 90 more pulls for him)Skipping Nacht bannerSwung by and got ItokenI have... A very foreboding feeling about the rest of this month. Which is why I'm skipping the Nacht banner. I'll get them all in a suptix at some point in the far future.I'm probably not done with ITOKEN's banner. I have a feeling that Minstrel is going to be important at some point. Call it a hunch.>>902600ITOKEN is alright. Not exactly mat though. No AGI buff on his 5 BP STR suite. No WIL buff for attrition teams. I can see many places I'd use him though.
>>902600He's a super party support with free party heals, party BP regen and comprehensive buffs, that alone makes him a valuable unit, especially now that he's tankier in GL.He makes or breaks Club Simulations due to all the aforementioned stuff, once you'll get to that you'll see why he's so valuable.
>>902633lots of new toys to play with
Got only 60k gems lads. do I HOLD or do I try to go for ITOKEN. is he meta enough for the risk?
Aw fuck, I triggered the monkey's paw. I'm the FFLfag who's nervous about Haniwa/Final Defense System and the other two FFL banners coming up nextish. My prayers were answered and we got ITOKEN instead, so I can flush my chance at hammer simulation down the drain and skip to recover my jewels...but then they drop a triple GLEX summer swimsuit banner on us at the same time, just like last year. Last year's summer GLEX banner was my 2nd biggest disaster, having to go to a double pity dumping 90k on a banner only to get GLEX Elisabeth a zillion times with no Asellus or Roc. I'm nervous about testing my luck again, especially with only 40k.The new GLEX styles seemed tuned for future content, but I'm hesitant because I already have what I need for all current content. They don't seem to shake things up or add much that's new other than being tankier. And perhaps worst of all, I had to skip the Katarina/Hilda banner so I don't have access to Alarm. It's Final Emperor all over again. I skipped GLEX Final Emperor because I skipped Termite Emperor. I never ended up needing Final Emperor for anything, but it still kinda stings.I don't know what to do. My brain says skip both banners to ensure I have enough for my FFL stuff, the most important thing in the game for me, but my heart says I can try to pull on the GLEX banner and the Taiwan stream said nothing about FFL at all; it even mentioned a summer event going from July 6th to 20th, so there's no sign of FFL until end of July/start of August.Fuck, but I do like Therese and have always kept her stat capped.>>902488Shit, are you the big fan of Female Court Mage? I'm so sorry bro. I hope the jewels we get this month will be enough for you to get her.>>902498Yeah, they fucked up, I agree.>>902524>>902561>>902570>>902571Thanks for the breakdowns bros. Katarina was an early fave of mine, I used to keep her stat capped but she fell by the wayside when I couldn't keep up with all her styles. Feels bad.
>>902778Do you have Matriarch? Do you care about hammer simulation? If you answered no to the first question and yes to the second, pull. If not, skip.
>>902790The hell is hammer simulation? And also debating due to having previous minstrel styles so I have inheritance options.
Does the Destiny 8 collab get special treatment like other collabs in other gacha games due to legal reasons and won't rerun? What I'm asking is, was ITOKEN in JP's bottomless banners after his event ended or was this the only shot to get him ever?
>>902796>The hell is hammer simulation?That is a small question with a large answer that can't be fit in 4chan's word limit but I'll try to tl;dr.Coming soon to global (who knows when), the next big mode will be added. In it, you must fight a boss that's weak to every damage type using teams made up only of styles using the same weapon (so there's sword simulation battles, greatsword simulation battles, hammer, etc). Future pulls and banners will be built around rounding out your roster based on weapon type and roles within that weapon type rather than elements or general roles like a tank, because now you can only bring your main tank to one of 10 versions of the boss fight. Why do people care about simulation battles? They're the only way to get the materials to upgrade the new weapons, which will be the strongest weapons in the game. So the goal is to beat the boss with as many weapon themed teams as possible and then it'll reset monthly so you can get those upgrade mats all over again.I've recently learned by studying the upcoming simulation bosses that having a solid team of a certain weapon type won't be enough; you need to cover a specific role with each boss. Termite Queen requires you to have someone who can paralyze. It doesn't matter who or if they're good at paralyzing; on the turn you need to do it, she debuffs her own WIL and paralyze resistance so much it's guaranteed. For Kzinssie you need a stun. And for Death Master you will need row/column nukes (like what the new GLEX Katarina is showing off hint hint).Anyway, ITOKEN is *the* god tier support for a hammer team so if you have him you should be okay for hammer simulation battles. If you don't, like me, well, idk if you're fucked but it's gonna be a lot harder. Other than simulation battles, he doesn't seem worth it if you already have Matriarch plus GLEX PWR.
>>902814Thanks for the response. Honestly makes it harder to decide but oh well got like 2 weeks to decide. Also I do not own GLEX PWR.
Whew new summer time event vs groups!Time to for my new Laura to shine!>Everyone resists pierce>Attacks going through counter>Being destroyed on VH stages.MAN I AM FEELING NOTHING BUT REGRET ON THAT PITY.On a positive note. The new loading screens are great.
>>902870>The new loading screens are great.I've only seen the Blue/Rouge one so far, but my bros are looking fine as fuck no homo
>>902576He's pretty good at farming if you have Speedwagon Kami for his skill 3.>>902870The VH stages are no joke, counter turtles are not going to cut it this time around for most stages since they mixed up all resistances, guess they want people to understand how important Tiger Den turtling will be in the future.
Fuck, even when I'm lucky, I'm unlucky.I broke down and tried to pull for my girl Therese.Got two Katarina on the first pull.Got Emerald on the second pull.I am going to learn my lesson for once in my life and stop here. I am going to give up on the only style I wanted on the banner even though I got everything else, because I am remembering multiple other banners like Matriarch 3, where I got Mama on the first pull but wanted to go back in for Rukh and had to pity him.Therese, you are finally stronger than Claudia but I gotta skip. I am so, so, sorry.Fuckin' hell, I don't have the most important inheritance for Katarina either. I got so lucky though, I should be thankful. I hope Emerald can find some good use.
>>902887What was the key inherit for Katarina? The one with the Alarm skill?
Aw shit, I think Beach Cocktail is one of those buffs that get a benefit from rank like Kiai. Stream said Seeker's Path is coming back, I gotta make a list of my manual rank up skills.>>902897Yeah, so she can cycle 7/0/7 like >>902570 pointed out for double follow-ups and massive damage.
why are the summer event battles hitting so hard even at lower difficulty, is this a bug ?
>>902907Wait until you get to the VH stages
>>902907GLEX events are fucking wild.
>third summer skin for RocNice, I assumed it was gonna be them giving out last year's again for those who missed it.Also, unless you read the notice there's a subtle way they could fuck you over with the Destiny 8 expedition event. Don't spend any tickets until 2 days from now. Even though the limited time expedition is available now, it's not until 2 days from now that the expedition will actually drop Concert Programs and at the same time an exchange will open where you can grab a new SS weapon and some other things.
Uhhhh and here I thought the VH summer trial 2 was cancer, 3 isn't looking any better.I don't want to imagine the horror that is 5 with constant AGI debuffing and no hope for counter strategies either
>Valdor and 2 ITOKEN on multi 2>Katarina and Emerald also on multi 2I noticed a pattern that when I pull on bluestacks my luck is shit while when pulling on phone my luck goes to insane levelsTherese will have to wait for a reprint
I encourage all my global sagabros to take a minute to scroll around the home screen, check all the corners. There's some cute, soulful stuff there.
Now I see why they gave Kami a LOV debuff.Final Empress giving 50K HP back to anyone on her side for free on potentially any round on top of a buff to their ATK is genuine fucking cancer
>pitied macha>pitied azami>pitied rich>pitied skya>now i pitied emeraldreuniverse is so much fun bros... global eos cant come soon enough...
Kat's in the 1600s for hp, I really did neglect her for a while. 1100s for Emerald, it's gonna take all week to get her up to snuff even with 4x gains. I think the last time I used Emerald was for clearing the very first Spiral Corridor back at launch. Had to deal with those annoying green-hair whirlwind fairies that were only weak to heat. Really happy to see her come so far.
>>902741>lots of new toys>593 fragments after getting all 3 GLEX to 46>plan to 50 them ASAP Not for me...
>>903070I'm using them at level 30, just dojo 'em up bro. Also, you'll be able to get another 1000 gold pieces in a few hours when the month rolls over.
>>903071Maybe. But I've got a bad feeling about this month.
>>903043get better luck bro
I have no idea how to beat Summer Showdown 3 on VH.There's no counter tactic that works, Golden Lion saved me on the previous stage but in this one it's a challenge to get Hannibal and Claudia down inbetween the absurd DPS, paralysis rolls and Final Empress healing any them, not to mention most of the stuff they use is indirect so it doesn't really trigger anything, Laura is useless because all of them are resistant to Pierce so her OP counter deflect is pointless, Forneus is the worst of the bunch.Debuffs don't stick, it's a miracle if I can even get Byunei to hit them at all, besides they almost always kill me before I can even start buffing and debuffing.Turtling in Tiger Den lets me kill Hannibal or Final Empress but then Silver goes apeshit with her AoE, Claudia inevitably paralyzes one or two people and I can't do anything about it.Plat Human M would be great to have here but of course, he's not around for this, I'm really at a loss here, even Iskandar can't survive the onslaught and if Hannibal gets buffed by Final Empress he's somehow able to kill him too, or put him in the red.
Feels like these enemies on stage 20 of ITOKEN's event are kinda tanky; I'm doing less damage than I expected.>>903127Damn, this stuff sounds scary. And isn't there an Ultra Hard beyond that? I don't think I'll try this until next week. Does it seem to be built around using Emerald as the counter tank? I usually rely on Forneus but you're saying he's shit here, but I did pull Emerald.
>>903135Yeah sorry, I meant Ultra Hard, I'm a bit mind broken>Does it seem to be built around using Emerald as the counter tank?Don't think so, no, she doesn't really make sense in this scenario, a nearly capped Forneus can't hit for more than 19K on Maelstrom counters, Emerald will struggle to reach 10K on a C power counter.Shit's wild.
>>902907GLEX events are always much harder maybe because they are compensating all the buffs or maybe because Akatsuki designs them with the current JP meta in mind
>>903145It's both really, but they might have gone a bit overboard for UH this time around, unless there's some secret puzzle piece I'm missing or it's meant to be a World Tower 290-300 RNG shitfest deal
>>903150That's what it feels like. I managed to beat UH 1 but even with Fempress, Lolislime and Tiger's Den I can barely reduce the amount of damage they shit out.
>>903153in UH2*.
>>903153Speaking ofIs there ever going to be another unit with good defense, hp recovery, and a team wide damage reduction?I like Lolislime but she's not exactly sustaining herself for 0 LP cost.
>>903157No.Her next style also loses the passive END buildup in favor of a skill based one.Generally speaking the future defensive meta will be less about stacking buffs and more about abusing party wide heals, dedicated cover styles like Mask and LP-less sources of party healing between skills and passives.
>>903174Nta but are we going to get passives that heal more than the itty bitty amounts they do now? I'm looking at Macha's for example, and how it has a chance to heal a bit over 100 hp every turn.
>>903197Yes and no, Very Small heals are still your mainstay and the trick will be stacking as many layers of them as possible, but there's also some more powerful heals available in the form of certain passives like OD heal passives, though GL already has something similar in the form of the Still Blade: Light buffs.Another reason why people considering styles like Itoken or Macha top tier is precisely because they can stack those Very Small heals on top of other people's and do it consistently too, which will be very, very important later on.
>>903174I can dig lp less sources of healing but I was more talking about her shrine dance for guard up 50%. Having one more unit to stack a sick guard up who also doesn't have to worry about dying would be neat. I know Xmas Fempress eventually gets that cut that'll let her heal the party every turn which'll be a nice steady stream of 370s/ish. And even without it will still be 180ish HP a turn. Which I could potentially use later.Anyways ITOKENs s3 change make him more valuable in attrition strats than potentially Mat 2 and 3. Where as they heal 360/ish each turn when Paen of peace gets going and has 2 on demand heals, Itoken raw takes 40% less damage now. The only problem is ailments. An 84% Wil Mod isn't stopping him from eating shit to clowns soul freeze, for example so his S2 literally doesn't matter.Status ailments be the big mind killer right now when it comes to me thinking of weenie strats to run. Fempress alone even with 4 stacks of peace can't 100% negate ailments on some fights. Needs either ND (who has no sustain) or PWR (who has slow sustain)Still feels like there's a peace of the puzzle missing. Fempress with watermelon cut, GLEX Kat #2, GLEX Therese. All pretty damn stout survival specialist. But to get serious about the kind of formation that I want, need one more source of team damage reduction on a character who won't slowly die over a long fight. Else the later two of that list get replaced with the more generally useful very small healers who when put together will be able to sustain themselves.
>>903205>stackingAh, that's a very good point. I usually only have 1 of those on a team if that, but if I had 3 or 4 that'd be bretty gud.
>>903224Of one of the few videos on youtube for the UH2 quest, they run FOUR buffers. Narwhal, Matriach, White Genryu, Shen du, and Dahao for her initial DEX/AGI debuff in Rapid Stream. It's pretty ridiculous.
>>903240Damn, not having Snowy and Dahao coming back to mock me once again.
>>903240I beat UH2 with NY Princess Lion, Mariah, GLEX Fempress, Christmas White Rose and Megami, but it took me a few retries.Still no idea what to do on UH3 though, don't even wanna think about UH5.
>>903252Who's Megami? I've got all of those other ones.
>>903262Not him, but that's Goddess.
>>903265Ah yeah.>>903252I'm guessing you used Tiger Den or Rapid Stream. It's not like there's much else to use for this shit.
>>903273Nope, good ole Desert Lance EX
What does these symbols mean? I think I skipped the tutorial when I started because I was rerolling
>>903312Either buffs or debuffs, pretty sure those are buffs. You can long press on a character to see what effects they're currently under. It's useful for keeping track of buffs that last multiple turns, like Golden Baum's 2 turn large guard up from Shrine Dance that won't overlap/stack with her 2 turn mediium guard up from Kiai.
Anybody here able to answer this >>902797?Can ITOKEN ever return?
>>903318You'll be able to fish for him in bottomless pools, reprints or with Suptix just fine.
>>903321Excellent, thank you!
>>902991ill try to put him to good use
>>903252>Still no idea what to do on UH3 thoughI used thisBut like I explained earlier I'm pretty sure there's still a piece of this puzzle missing. Just one more tanky unit that also comes with damage reduction for the team and some self sustain and we've have a real party of self sufficient badasses.No clue what I'm doing for #5 though. Most of it's going to depend on how fast I can brute force through Emerald. I could also just go maximum cheek and see if GLEX Claudia is even capable of lasting long enough to overdrive once.
Well this was a disaster. But it's over
>>903598I only have the blob and GLES Femps, guess I'm kinda fucked
Perfection
>>903871People have been running these fights with weird ass teams, anon. So I'm pretty sure if you really stretch the imagination you'll figure it out.
New player here. I probably did a dumb thing and rolled on reprint banner a bit too much, and now I have 30k coins.First half went to FEmpress and rolling on the banner gave me mirsa, both kinds of pwr and apollo.What do I get with other 15k coins? From reading this and previous threads I gather that Roc and xmas slime are rather good, but while I get the point of slime I'm a bit lost about Roc.
>>904109GLEX Roc is good because she has crazy passives and a crazy skill set.Skill 1 can stun and costs 0BPSkill 2 adds heat to her repertoire and also gives 1BP to the whole part.Skill 3 is one of the craziest nukes in the game and completely tanks enemy INT too.She's just insanely good and high value for future styles too.But if you want a qrd on the other worthwhile styles from that banner:>Summer AsellusStill the best INT debuffer in the game if you have Mirage Step from the previous limited style.>ThomasHas a Skill 3 that is potentially very strong but there's still no new Thomas that can use it, this is the last Thomas style to date too.>SarahGood for inheriting Healing Arrow to her later styles>Human MCan inherit Pulse Cannon to his future Plat style>Human FStill a very reliable martial art style to this day, but she's gonna be surpassed by her future UDX and has no relevant inheritance material>SpeedwagonGives Repent!! to the current on banner Kami so he can reach his max farming potential, the other Kami style is pointless though>DadVital for Mask in the future so he can pass Grand Adventure>Glex LeonKind of lost his relevance with the coming of UDX Gerard, but still solid and a very good support/farming style>Glex EmpsStill the best all around STR slasher for both farming and bossing, can give lots of good stuff to his future styles>Halloween CatAll of her skills are good for inheritance>ForneusGood mass counter tank though his days are numbered>Glex MikhailExtremely good DEX piercer for bossing, can give good stuff to the future mikhail as well>Glex CoppeliaPunishing Combo and Mirage Kick are good inheritance options for future styles>Glex Minervaextremely good inheritance option for her future style>DoraStill great T1 farmer for AGI slots, but still no future styles so far>Christmas MesarthimCan give her skill 2 to her future style>Christmas ReiExtremely competent status inflictor with good inheritance options
>>904120>Glex UrpinaReally strong farming style for T1, her skill 3 is good inheritance material>Glex SashaVery strong healer, one of the best in business, but no future styles hurt her>NY MinstrelWill be useful for early club simulation, or you can just forget that and wait for SaGa concert Minstrel to come around>NY AldoraWeird but surprisingly still competent heat/slash caster that can make good use of Polka's sword, also has zombie heals>Sherahamazing Dark caster with plenty of debuff options, a Fast with Stun and great firepower all in all, vital for her future styleThe other OCs are mostly not worth it since their lifetime is over by now and won't get future styles, Madeleine is a very strong, but very risky STR slash/lightning DPS, she's probably the best of the bunch, the current on banner Valdor is better than this other Valdor even though he could benefit from Ki Meditation if you need a heal right there, right now, and [A mother's flowing love] Liz is a competent Cold nuker in a niche that has very little competiton, the rest you can completely disregard as they have either no value at all by now or very dubious value (I'd make a case for Glex Leonard for instance but it's a really weak one)
>>904120>>904122Thanks for the long answer, anon.I have some of those, but as I guessed it pretty much comes down to choice between Roc and Baum. Don't have the last Asellus, sadly, so no inherits for the summer one. How important are her inherits down the line, anyways?
>>904190>How important are her inherits down the line, anyways?Depends entirely on who we're talking about.Forneus or Aunus?Neither really gets much from their previous styles, if anything at all.Byunei or Alloces?They almost always come with self sufficient packages but can get more versatility through inherits.Final Empress?Most of her value is in mixing and matching tools from her previous styles.Apollo?His current style is mediocre at best without his previous UDX so he gets to loop Masamune+ or switch to full AoE duty with Meteor Shower through inheritance.The current Valdor or Boston in ITOKEN's banner?Neither gets better by inheriting anything from their previous styles, they're complete and self sufficient packages.Some characters in particular, like again Final Empress, are typed as "collectible" types that are more reliant on inheritance from the previous styles to work at peak performance, other characters like Apollo or Kami are fully reliant on their previous styles, while some other characters like Neidhart or Jamil on the other hand often come with self sufficient kits, there's also the case of characters who don't get new styles for a long while so when they get updated they're 99% not reliant on their previous styles at all, see the recent Summer Professor in JP for instance.So in short, inheritance is, GENERALLY SPEAKING, very good value, but it's something that doesn't really follow strict rules and you can live without in most cases.
Enough is enough
>>904243How DARE you compare Kats to Toriyama's skank?Lightning is a Laura ripoff
Alright, made it to the Ultra Hard stages. Only thing that gave me a bit of trouble on the way was VH5, which was only a speed bump. Time to see if I can do UH1 today. How far did counter memes get you guys?
what's Itoken's rotations in Auto ?
>>904358whathe only has one attack
man, I'm dumb. I brought Creator to stop Fempress' crazy healing, but forgot to bring an INT buffer so he never landed a debuff and missed most of his spells. Basically did this with 4 party members but whatevs, wasn't nearly as bad as I expected. UH1 went down on the first try to Forneus, UH2 went down on the first try to my Ludwig team and UH3 went down on the first try with this Creator team (my "better" team ideas failed, hilariously enough).I think I'll keep UH4 and UH5 for another day.
>>904387I was praying for some miracle that the dev would change the auto mechanism for him.
>>904400Kind of copied your Kami strat with a slightly different team and I must say, he was pretty damn effective, when he started actually getting those damn coin flip that is, and that took quite a few reloads, thanks to the GL buffs he's hell of a lot more reliable than he's in JP for bossing, getting 1BP back for each attack is really noteworthy.UH4 was pretty similar except I put GLEX Annie as bait, took a couple of retries for the usual dice rolls but seems like counterfishing with GLEX Annie+Parry inherit is a really good strategy if you're lucky with RNG.Tomorrow I'll try UH5.>>904407There's nothing to change, he has a single attack skill, support skills and stances never go off on auto, ITOKEN's a fully manual support bot
>>904474Glad I could help, good job! I think I'm going to try using my Prefecture Emelia for the first time on UH4 (I don't have Annie) as I want someone who can heal and do blunt.For UH5, I'm kinda stumped. Emerald's counters are a real pain in the ass, I need to find some sort of turtling team that doesn't use direct attacks. Might sticke with Emmie.
omg Volcano and his fucking TWO SCOOPS of ice cream can fuck right the hell off
It always sucks when you end up having to pity, I can only hope that I ca get ITOKEN without this happening.
>>904400>Have Light Quadruple Lightnow that's a combo
>mention using torrent with GLEX Urpina on release>nobody works with me>Months later everybody and their mother is using GLEX Urpina with torrentWell then.
>>904555>Vampy has vampire link and can randomly heal herself and some other guy unless a Deflect happens>Volcano starts going TWO SCOOPS every time somebody is in the redDon't want to think how annoying that stage is without GLEX Annie
>>904844I used GLEX Barbara, Alkaiser (with punishing fist inherited), GLEX Coppelia, GLEX Fempress, and MachaTurn 1, Fempress walls, Punishing fist for top and bottom, Macha uses 3 BPTurn 2, Macha uses fast, Coppelia ODs, top (or bottom if you'd like) are now deadCan't remember if final crusade is turn 4 or 5. Anyways you give Coppelia ki blast so she can kill Vampy earlier and OD Baum out of existence.
>>904606Thanks, I didn't notice it til later. Maybe adding more light to my UH4 team is what I need.>>904844Thanks for the pic, I meant to post it with my post but realized I never saved any of those two scoops meme pics 'cause I thought it was a shit meme.>Vampy has vampire link and can randomly heal herself and some other guy unless a Deflect happensSo THAT'S why she's been healing! I thought it was her Marine Bat move but then it didn't always heal. And I didn't get why other people occasionally healed. It all makes sense now.I almost had it with an Asellus Desert Lance team; killed Baum, killed Vampy and if I had killed one of the axe girls I would've probably won but they focused down a character and it all fell apart. Asellus' s3 hits like a truck after a few buffs.>>904864I don't have Coppelia but I have the rest of that squad. Seeing Asellus' damage on my last attempt, maybe it's possible for me to burst this down after all.
>>904864Which formation did you use?
>>904929Can't rememberLemme check and see if I still have the formation saved. I have gone through a shit ton of my last 10 slots doing cheeky summer GLEX in new types of content.No yeah there it is. I don't recall that taking a lot of resets. But I think I OD'd Final Crusade turn 4 (or maybe 5, can't remember) and used a second Imperial Shield somewhere in there.Both Alkaiser and Coppelia were using Full HP+ for that little bit of boost at the start since those axe chicks have to die immediately in a strategy like this or they reset you.
Nevermind my question about formation, hot damn it worked! Practically on the first try too, just had to reset once after an unlucky turn 1 charm from Vampy.Big thanks to >>904864!
>>904955Outstanding. Congratulations, anon
>>904957Thanks! Air Support on turn 2 was the most glorious use of it I've witnessed in a while. Killed both axe girls and left the rest crippled. Can't stop Crazy Fuse!
>>904959I've been seeing tons of cheeky strategies for the beach as people have been cobbling together anything they've got lying around in their box and letting it rockI certainly have had a good time going back through with different unit compositions and puzzling my way across.
>>904965Yeah, GLEX events are pretty cool in how they stretch your brain and your roster. Must be rough for newfriends though. And I really hope we're able to get gold testaments from spiral corridor like JP soon; walling them behind the highest difficulties of GLEX events, the hardest events, is kinda brutal.
>>904966>walling them behind the highest difficulties of GLEX events, the hardest events, is kinda brutal.that's about the only thing I really don't appreciate. Part of the game's charm is the rewards being inverse. So a person just starting out can get full marks from events and get all rewards.While I didn't particularly have issues with this or Ludwig, they should really ease up on that. The current suptix that's going on right now makes the game significantly easier to sell to people right now, but full rewards on this event isn't newbie possible at all.Anyhow I just realized we've never got a GLEX Axe user.We've got multiple of every other weapon type but exactly 0 axe.Given how stacked slashing is. It's for the best I'd wager. Unless said axe user is an uber support they'd get creeped out of control.
>>904968>We've got multiple of every other weapon type but exactly 0 axe.Aw jeez, you're right! It's my favourite weapon, so I just know they'd rope me into pulling. Hopefully it doesn't come this month; I'm so close to 45k for the SaGa 2 banner, which means I'm close to reviving my dream of being able to pull on the SaGa 3 banner.
>>904974I don't have that foreboding feeling in my gut anymore. Is what I want to say. There's at least one more curve ball in the near future but I expect the rest of this month to play out normally.With Robin Family, Arsenal, and SaGa and SaGa for each week next week.Unless some weird shit happens and they add more double banners which I don't see. Unless there's some substantial buffs on the robin family banner (and I mean, I could possibly use any of these units for another year levels of buffs) or another GLEX (which is way unlikely) this is mostly a skip month for me.I only have the gold pieces for maybe a single other unit.
Fuck, I can't get around the wall that is Emerald. A turtle team has to poke her and will get fucked by counters. A pierce team that nukes large chunks of her health can't survive the onslaught of damage. I just tried a variant turtle team with Roc to debuff INT (and a zero bp spell to poke) but she missed everyone, all the time. Ditto for trying to Chocoball with PWR on the same team, nothing but misses. That wasn't even with AGI debuffs from Emerald counters, I just flat can't hit them. Rapid Stream memes are out of the question as I don't have an aoe DEX debuffer.
I'm playing grind catch up for these events, managed to beat romancing Nacht first try before closing, and now grinding out characters in the goddess event. Big thing I want right now is raising fire-attacker stats, skill ranks, and more importantly, the max health since I noticed my characters having high stats but the max health is always lacking. Plus, I get to raise skill ranks for the new Emerald and Saruin since their stronger AOE attacks are lacking in them. (Seekers Cave came in a bad time for me, damn IRL.)I have an odd question, was Kawazu involved with the game Rudra no Hihou? Considering this game has a massive following, I thought they would try to get their other IPs involved.
>>904983Have you tried accuracy holy stones?Anyways I'm>>903667As you can probably imagine from the image, half of this party wasn't good for me.Mat got off two heals and then swiftly died. Baum was ironically the only really important part of the strategy.Basically, Fempress and mat took turns healing the party. Baum kept her Guard Up on everybody. And fempress, Mat, Baum, and Kat attacked turn 1 so that Emerald super charged our overdrive.
>>904983My wife is beautiful and very strong but is also weak to a good, single thrust, if you have people like Neidhart or Cody you can use indirect nukes like Arm of Light+ to hit her without triggering her Firestorm counter.>>904984He was the supervisor for RnH, though honestly it's not a good game, easily one of the weakest games he was involved with.Ichi-P already said he's not even considering other IPs for this game until the series receives "proper representation", there's Imperial SaGa: Eclipse for crossovers.Besides nobody really cares about Rudra and I don't think Kawazu cares either, though he recently said he would like to go back to Racing Lagoon in some measure
>>904987>Have you tried accuracy holy stones?Not sure if the investment would be worth it, I'll try some other things first.I can copy that team of yours except for Therese, who I'm still depressed about having to skip.>Basically, Fempress and mat took turns healing the party.idk how they can do that with a limited single heal that dips into LP from Imp Shield too and Mat only having 2 heals; I need SBL for my sustain comps. Oh wait, you probably have that one style of Femps that I'm missing that can heal or something iirc.>And fempress, Mat, Baum, and Kat attacked turn 1 so that Emerald super charged our overdrive.Now that's a cool idea I can use, thanks!>>904988My pierce is and will always be fucked. I don't have either of those. Matter of fact, been playing since launch and I still don't have anyone that can hit hard with a spear.I managed to kill Emerald at last, but it cost me everything. Back to the drawing board.
Aw fuck, the AGI debuff onslaught. I don't think accuracy stones can counter 7 AGI debuffs in a couple turns. Strangely, I was hitting her just fine in that previous attempt.
>>904987I have a really hard time eye-balling formations from screenshots, which one where you using? I'm gonna try Claudia in place of Therese and see if it works.
>>904998It's Tiger Den
>>904988 (Hitler checked)Bit of a shame since I happen to like that game a lot. Not as open as saga but I happen to like the world and how 4 main characters progressed , seeing how they appear in each others stories several times. The game was another experiment that definitely needed more fine tuning but there were little nuggets that were cool to find if you explored thoroughly. Balance was broken when you figured out how Mantras work since you could get absurdly powerful early in each quest if you had access to powerful dungeons early (Surlent path was extremely exploitable for this.)
>>905005Thanks, I was wondering how you survived turn 1 with no mitigation from Fempress or Baum; hopefully that'll do the trick. My OD doesn't seem to be charging nearly as fast as I'd like it despite eating nearly a dozen aoes on the first two turns.
>>904993Emila can get Wedding Emilia's Skill 3 for a pierce nuke on guns, Claudia has Heartseeker+ and so do a couple of other people like Windy, the key is indirect pierce to avoid getting roasted, even without STR piercers there's other options, Valdor also has many indirect Pierce skills.
>>905007The team in that image is aggressively tanky. Fempress comes packaged with IIRC 25% from indomitable, and gives the entire team 20% from scrum guardTherese reduces it damage by 35%Baum's guard up is 50% for the entire team including herselfMatriarch... Admittedly is just there to heal twice, raise dex a little bit, and then die.It was still pretty dicey, mind you. It was just the strategy I wanted to use at the time. You can kill Emerald in two turns with morale up strats, but you're going to need some mighty accurate indirect slashers to deal with Therese. Who is significantly more dangerous than Kat
>>905008I'm trying Deadly Pierce with Emelia's Sweet Trap, Claudia and Therese (not summer)'s Heartseeker+ and Valdor's Drill Crusher with Baum in the back Shrine Dancing and it's just not enough deeps. Emerald lives with 40% hp turn 1, then everything crumbles turn 2. The issue is I need to commit so much of my team to kill the damn mage, there's nothing left for the other two massive threats.>>905014>It was just the strategy I wanted to use at the time. You can kill Emerald in two turns with morale up strats, but you're going to need some mighty accurate indirect slashers to deal with Therese. Who is significantly more dangerous than KatYeah, idk if I can pull that off. Tanking won't work, nuking won't work. I can beat World Tower but idk if I have the roster for this. Everyone who wins seems to have something I don't.
how to u auto-refill stamina during Auto-session ?
>>905214u dont
>>905214You can very easily setup a macro to press repeat and refill stamina when you run out
>>905245That's what I pretty much use when I want to grind during work and when I sleep.
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>>905351cursed
>destiny 8 version of ThemaNot bad at all
>>905351hey at least you got both of the lobsters.
>>905552For me, it's Last Battle T260Ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ0a2dDHTuY
Is there any reason to upgrade ITOKEN S1 and S2 to rank 99?
does Creator's attack power scale with AGI ?
>>905623INT
>>905609It scales20% to 30% for S115% to 25% for S2
>>905685Poor Asura will spend a few hours watching buffs stacking
>>905709Man that is dedication.
>>905742what he's doing is actually the path of least resistanceI'm doing it the long slow way and it sucks. But it's what I know.
Jesus, GLEX Therese is some crazy shit.When are the other two Avalon bros going to get their time in the sun, Akatsuki?I know you're stealth opening the floodgates for Bear supremacy with the latest Asellus, but throw a bone to my man James as well.
>>906427Still need the final piece of the puzzle We're almost there.
>>905351>tfw 2 itoken, but no red lobster
>>906562Since I have been building up my lobster, getting this newest style was the best choice for another AoE STR debuffer siince I didn't get GLEX Coppelia, and I didn't raise the rank of Sherah's Incense. Plus getting his INT buffed to 80% really helps too.
Grinding Laura's deflect counters is taking a serious toll on my sanity
well after 3 multis i can consider myself a luckman
>>906767Can you get more than one skill up a battle?
>>906858skill up, yes. spell up, no.
Been speeding through the story...so how did Liz get pregnant ?
>>906925I missed this as well.
Fucking FINALLY, holy shit>>906925Archdemon Christ immaculate conception christmas miracleNo I will not elaborate
Swept again another banner, now at 52k. I'm scared of the future but at least Itoken will save me, r-right?
>>907532>smol last one standingno one can stop her
>>907579The strongest
>>906925>>907132It's a secret until a good part of the way through Jo's story.
>>907532Hot damn, congrats! This is the team I've settled on trying to win with except I didn't get Summer Therese (still bummed about that) so I will be trying with GLEX Claudia. She can heal herself with Healing Arrow every turn so maybe she can survive despite not having Therese's tankiness?>>906427Bro you are killlin' me with my Therese skip regrets. A great Bear style would be awesome.
>>906925Magic purple smoke of the archfiend/demon kingIgnore that jo and bert have water and fire dual affinity for some reason. We don't talk about that
>>907748Polka's just the cool uncle mister IRPO officer, I swear!
Is there a complete list of buffs that benefit from being rank 99?
Aw shit. I've finally figured out how to beat Emerald with relative ease, but Katarina is fucking invincible. Watermelon Cut keeps bringing her to full, my turtle team doesn't have the damage to hurt her.
>>907949After you kill Emerald you can switch Matriarch buffing to Paean of Victory to stack END, no need to stack Paean of Peace to outheal the firestorm spam, it's best to stack END instead.If you have swimsuit Claudia you can also alternate Lacerate with Healing Arrow as that will damage both Emerald and Therese pretty heavily.The battle is something of a domino effect, first you need to take care of Emerald, then it's either Katarina or Therese, as soon as either goes down then you got this, but it will take a couple of retries.
>>907957Thanks, those are pretty cool tips! Gonna give it some more tries then.
Fuck! For some reason the enemy damage spiked after Emerald died even thought I was now END buffing with both Mama and Blob. And this was a run with no Watermelon Cuts, I thought I might actually do it. Confound it all, this is the first time in who knows how many months I feel I need six or seven party slots instead of five. I need more healing, Mariah's extremely unreliable passive is not nearly enough. But there just isn't room in the party. I take out anyone at all, it's a fail.
I don't understand. Somehow, with this very unusual gun team, I managed to kill Katarina. And then 2 or 3 turns later, Therese's Barrage Shot hit for thousands of damage when it was only doing a few hundred before. This should not be impossible, it defies the way this game works. No LP to left to revive people so that's GG (but really BG).
>>908002Mariah can outtank Therese by soaking hits, restoring back to full with Skill 3 and then get a guaranteed hit with OD, don't give up, that's how I won.
>>908002*should not be possibleIt's like the game glitched and rewrote itself when it thought I was gonna win. Buff stacking simply can't work that way.
>>908003She slaughtered me next turn with a Searing Rapid Volley did double damage because Scrum Guard was gone (again, that's not how math works when I was only losing 20% mitigation, wtf).
Is accuracy for guns and bows calculated with DEX or AGI for your party?
Remember when they called Mariah as lackluster as award sophiaI remember>>908027Dex>>908002You overdrived which meant you lost the damage reduction bonus from that formation. Shits rough.
>>908034>DexThanks, so that explains some of my misses.>You overdrived which meant you lost the damage reduction bonus from that formation. Shits rough.I don't think I OD'd at all that run. Weird stuff.END buffing from PoV seems to do nothing, so I went back to Shining Glory for that emergency heal. Trying again with my gun team 'cause it's the only one that covers the insane laundry list of things I need to fulfill just to function in this satan's asshole of a fight. Now I can't get past Emerald though, I'm tilted hard. The more I play, the less passives seem to activate.
>>908038Taking blunt for katarina is a trap in my opinion. Emerald dying and then killing therese as fast as humanly possible with as many indirect slashes as humanly possible is safer.
>>908044Well, somehow I made it work! I killed them in order, leaving Therese for last, and somehow it all came together. Thank you to all the anons who tried helping me with advice. I'm glad to win using ZEKE and my girl Em, I couldn't have done it without either of them. Barrage Program really shone here, doing tons of damage to Kat and bypassing Therese's heavy resistance to all of my physical (pierce/blunt) damage. It was my first time using these prefecture styles to clear hard content.I also gotta voice my appreciation for Matriarch 3.0. A lot of people, including me, slept on her 'cause the stats she buffs with Peace aren't as good as the ones she buffs with Victory. But with this new meta, I'm finding Peace to be far more valuable. It especially stood out here because my two sources of damage were DEX-based, meaning it kept up my accuracy and ramped up my damage while also slightly increasing my heals across the board. I ignored this style from its release until near the end of World Tower, but I've been using it ever since.
>>908060Congrats anon!
>Pull again for Emerald after getting Therese>Get Katarina instead>No jewels and just 5000 tokens so can't justify chasing after her when I got two GLEX out of three>Wipe Away Your Tears arrange in the background>>908060Good job
>>908287>>908425Thanks! And with that, my Undine is complete. Gonna sit on the rest of the gold testaments til I have enough to do Human F all in one go.And sorry to hear about your Emerald pulls bro. A very similar thing happened to me with Therese, I couldn't justify chasing her either after getting the two styles I didn't care about.At least the new grinding event is comfy and covers almost the entire roster; it's practically a conquest without the tons of extra jewels.
Neat, that new Mesarthim skin is one of those art contest winners they showed off a few streams ago for anniversary. Makes me wonder if the Bert art will get in as a skin too. Can't remember who the third one was.
>>908713>Makes me wonder if the Bert art will get in as a skin too."It will"
The exclamation mark in "Repent!" is letting me create combo names that sound like old school anime episode titles.
