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Did you summon for Medeus or anyone else on his banner?
Fallen Heroes should be the next main banner after this. Who do you expect? Do you think they'll top Fallen Edelgard at all?
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>>833675
>Did you summon for Medeus or anyone else on his banner?
Yep, got 7 Micaiah and 5 Medeus in 653 orbs. Zero Elimine.

>Do you think they'll top Fallen Edelgard at all?
I doubt they're going to try. I have a feeling this will be the first Fallen banner that is a bit of a letdown.
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>>833716
and that's a good thing!
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I'm not a huge fan of massive quote chains but thanks for the well-wishes from everyone last thread.
I was so unprepared for finishing Marianne that I don't have any of the things I want for her (floret, DFs) on-hand. I thought it would take me several more months before she was ready so I'd have time. Now I'm going to give her all those things when they become available. It's a surprise, but a welcome one.
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>>833799
Now do the same for Brave Marianne. Wish I had the same luck as you for the units I'm saving up for are either seasonal or locked to b8% banner. Hopefully I have enough orbs for their return. Good luck on your next project.
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>>833675
Just went for the free summon+2 colorless that were were on the circle. Got a free Thorr out of it. She's -attack but a free Lego is a free Lego.
I dunno what to expect for the Fallen Banner but topping Adel is my number 1 fear. That girl is already 2-3 units in an unholy trenchcoat.
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This was fun
I'd love more gimmicky abyssal maps like this one
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test and so fragile
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>>833675
Not yet. Planning on rolling colorless with green as a fallback if the next banner doesn't look appealing. Problem is:
>want to roll on CYL5 for fodder
>want to roll for regular Marianne to get her to +1
>need to be prepared for 3H banner if it has Leonie
>need to be prepared for fallen banner if it has FEdel-tier powercreep
>want to roll for Tine if I somehow have orbs left over
And I've only got ~300 orbs right now, plus 70 in the mail. Hope I get lucky somewhere.
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>>833675
I need 40~50 more orbs until I can spark for him
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>forgot about Mjolnir Strike
>forgot about Hall of Forms
>forgot about daily AR match

I really am losing interest and I don't trust IS at all in giving us a decent bridal banner either.
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>>834365
Literally the entire game and progression orbits around the gacha and the gacha is shit so you naturally stop giving a fuck
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>>834365
I used to clear stuff the moment they were available, but now I'm bothering less and less.
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Who is the darkest of mages?
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>>834436
Bram, probably
Can't get any more Dark than Impenetrable
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Quite an influx in low quality posts, I wonder why.
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>>834365
I just stopped caring about competitive modes and just use my favorite units in-game, it's more fun and less of a hassle.
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>>833799
I'm hoping it isn't a long time before she reruns again. Wasn't prepared for both Mariannes to rerun at the same time so only had enough orbs to finish one.
Congrats again tho
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>>834365
I already don't trust IS enough to give me at least one more set of alts of my favorites, so going forward with that expectations is easy for me to save up orbs knowing what we got so far.
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>>833675
I feel like they'll try to top F!Edelgard but end up making a side-grade at best (Kinda like Fallen M!Corrin)
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It's been a few months and I'm back to grinding Summoner Duels. Having troubles finding matches in Book 3 and Prior, so I think it's time I go unrestricted.
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>>834810
>First match is against Yuri, Ninjorrin, B!Alm, Ash, and Peony
Why do faggots do this
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>>834819
>why do fags do this
The game encourages them to win at all costs. The more bloated and obnoxious your units are the less you have to think thus more fun and less frustration for having units that need to significantly outplay with to win.
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>>834855
I know why, but it's so fucking annoying and soulless. I love SDS because at least you can strike the most cancerous teams.
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>>834810
>>834819
>trouble finding matches in Book III and prior
>terminal cancer on Unrestricted

You can't win.
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>>834896
The only winning move is not to play.
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>>834912
>About to have my 6th unit above 1000 Favor
>Highest favor is 1500
>Want to get all 7 Camilla to max
Send help
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>>834855
>The game encourages them to win at all costs.
>In the mode that gives rewards for completion instead of placement
Why are you lying to that anon?
>>834819
people taking esports seriously in a mode that doesn't give rewards based on ranking
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>>835168
Tryhards use favor battles to test their SDR and SDS teams.
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It's nice that my Linde can still be a part of these.
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>>835290
very ironic, abusing splash dmg before en garde even gets to be thrown up
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>>835290
Based, Lene scores the boss kill too.
loli Mia being able to galeforce unlike the original is fun.
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>>835290
Good shit
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>>835290
>Lene killing Medeus
That's insane
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How does young Ilyana compare to Julius?
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Fuck SP grinding Elimine is such a pain.
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>>835532
She's basically the same unit but green and not weak to dragonslaying units.
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>>835620
Julius has a lot more debuffing though
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>>833675
I skipped because the Legendary Micaiah and Thórr share is awful for me. However, I don't mind skipping because summoning on these 8% banner with three units share per color is unpleasant.
>>834819
SD rollout is still awful. No daily rewards associated with regular SD; no way to test SDS; no separate room to test "competitve" SDR; SDR and SDS rewards are basically AA rewards. If IS wants and is trying to cater to the underage Fortnite crowd who love sudden death competitions with only 30 seconds to think per turn while trying to appease Fire Emblem fans, then they're failing.
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>>835625
Yeah, but Ilyana has a lot more stats.
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>>835627
So even with DF's he doesn't catch up?
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>>835630
>thinking DF actually helps bridge the gap between newer and older units
lol, lmao even.
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>>835636
It's pretty telling when the CYL3 refines literally give them +10 to all stats (or +10 to the relevant stats in Camilla and Micaiah's case) just to keep up. DF alone isn't enough.
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>no-one linked in the old thread
fucks sake lads
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>>835532
>>835630
Looking at their stats at +10 with max DFs on both, Ilyana has
-1/+3/0/-1/+4
stats vs Julius. For their prfs, both inflict -6 atk/res and have res check DR. The difference is that Julius gets the Sabotage effect and an additional -5 atk/res, while Ilyana gets the follow-up prevention.

So technically, with their in-combat effects factored in, Julius actually has +2 atk and +1 res vs Ilyana and extra atk/res via the Sabotage. But Ilyana makes up for it in follow-up prevention, superboons in atk and res, and no niche dragon weakness.
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>>836192
>Julius actually has +2 atk and +1 res vs Ilyana and extra atk/res via the Sabotage
Should be +2 atk, +6 def, and +1 res vs Ilyana, for a total of +1/+2/0/+6/+1 vs her. And extra atk/def/res via the Sabotage.
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>>835965
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>>833676
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I love how the giga chad baker of these threads always fucks with the nerds by not telling them its time to migrate and just posts a link a leaves.
When the nerds do figure it out after a couple days and seethes in the new thread s/he justs links to the link in the old one and acts confused.
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>>836404
If this is attempt to be an attention seeking shitposter then you should go back to your shit general
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>>836416
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>>836404
>I love how
No you don't.
>It's a figure of speech.
Stop using hackneyed expressions.

>its time to migrate
This isn't a general you fucking idiot.
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Guys what do I do? I'm scared.
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>>836512
Removing the tactics room and panic manor would be a good start.
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Don't stir shit here please.
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I added Medeus to my AR-D team. Interestingly he doesn't move even when enemies are in his attack range, which works out for me, but why? I don't understand the AI.
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>>836512
This nigga is probably the only Hubertfag in existence
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>>836944
Did you put him in the seventh slot?
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>>836956
Oh, yeah I did, never knew it worked like that. But if he doesn't even attack enemies right next to him then maybe I should rethink my formation a bit.
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>>836967
His teammates will still aggro if anyone gets in his range, so you can use him to cover more range.
Also remember that dancers will prioritize him before someone dies.
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>always choose the same memento book in Heroes Journey
>only get three hearts, four times in a row
S-surely next time will be different
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>>836985
Well this is what I've got right now. Nifl has no weapons so she just sits there supporting the two save dragons. Positioning-wise it's all well and good, and having Medeus not move helps keep the formation from falling apart, but I wonder if I should swap his and Tiki's slots so Tiki keeps the formation in place while Medeus is free to attack. The problem is that that risks both of them losing their mutual support if Medeus gets pulled away.

I also need to come up with a formation for Astra/Anima season but that's a separate problem.
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>>836990
>always get the same memento too
this game mode is cursed
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When are they gonna add Oswin or Marcus?
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>>837275
When ascendant [Semi popular character] happens
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It took ages until it finally gave me Deadeye and Menace. I'm still farming for S/D Trace and maybe a Catch instead of Swift Sparrow.

Actually, should I keep Deadeye or stick with Ruptured Sky?
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>>837885
3 cd on deadeye is hella awkward especially with a brave weapon but hey. i personally like the true damage better but there's probably a better argument out there for deadeye
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>>837885
>I'm still farming for S/D Trace
Anon, I have some terrible news for you
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>>838033
Weird how S/R Far Trace was made first despite mages being stronger.
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>>837885
>I'm still farming for S/D Trace.
May Sothis, Yune or whatever FE God you subscribe to have mercy on you. Not even a time pulse can save you now since you're too far gone.
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>>838048
You've got it backwards. S/R far trace was made precisely because mages are stronger. Easier for IS to slap it on premium units.
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Heh.
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>first we get a Marth manual
>now we get a Rafiel manual
Well, these suck ass now.
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>only duma remix
why though
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>two tactical retreats on arena
>idunn refine
>free pulse smoke and shuriken cleaver
Not bad, but pretty meh aside pulse smoke and idunn's refine
>>838145
>fury 4
Why
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>>838135
>Marth
Only unit that comes with spd/def oath
Got nothing for Raf though. Even Ward Beasts is a seal now.

>>838153
Because he's going to get En Garde in his remix, obviously.
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You just know Rafiel will be on the RD HoF.
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>Kaden refine
Noice
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>have to wait until the 10th for Duma refine
Fuck
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I don't like this update, nothing worth my time unfortunately, but at least we're getting close to the bridal banner reveal.
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>>838184
Man, I already have him +10'd. Forma Bride Nailah though... I'd probably use a soul for that.
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>Wanted to make a catch build with Miriel
>Get spooked by a -attack Hapi
>This is how I learn non-mounted units can't learn catch skills
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Ok, S/D Far Trace doesn't exist yet so I'm going for this, I'd only be missing the A skill. Would Plegian Bow be better maybe? Or a different A skill?
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>>838512
anon why do you think she comes with ideal instead
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>>838512
>This is how I learn non-mounted units can't learn catch skills
Wait, what?
Fuckssake, this shit is all so arbitrary.
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>Ranged units can learn SS3 but not Surge Sparrow
Hate it here
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>>838512
Ideal is for armors and infantry, Catch is for cavs and fliers
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The only thing I hope for Thea to get is just the slaying and I'll walk away happy.
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>Duma
>Thea
>Gharnef
All in the same update. I guess I'm finally going to use some divine dew
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>>838726
Mounted units get Catch skills, foot units get Ideals.
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>>838560
Plegian Bow would be worse, because it's on a 4*. You'll need to wait a couple months for it, but if you really want it on him it's easier to get. The A-skill is good too.
Also I know the other anon advised otherwise, but I would've kept Deadeye purely because it's an effect unique to archers. Sure it's not as strong on a brave weapon, but you could easily use one of the Christmas bows instead.
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>>838868
I still have Deadeye in my current Python and indeed I gave it to him because is an exclusive to archers special, might as well have it.

My only concern is which boon to keep, I think I'll keep Atk since his base is pretty low and I already have good Spd stacking.
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Can anyone post the lineup for the double specials? Thanks
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I challenge one of you to Summoner Duel. If I win, you have to buy me the Duo Altina pack. If I lose, I will do nothing because I am currently broke.
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>>839471
No
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>>839493
>mfw fag chrom goes up on double special and I'm going to have to deal with even more of this stupid fucking faggot plaguing every single fucking game mode
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>>839493
>non-zero chance Dagr and Azura color share
>also non-zero chance Lucina color shares with one of them
I'm so tired of rolling green

>>839501
Give into the homo and roll your own. I've started using him for my daily arena clears instead of F!Edelgard
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>>839493
At least three months for loli Mia's return...
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>>839515
We get these every other month, so it's more like 6 months.
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>>839519
I must've misremembered about them becoming monthly.
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>1 5* apart from spark
I'm ready to drop some gamer words in the chat
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im going to make an alt just to roll. i dont want to was orbs on my main.
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>>839521
That's par for the course on the way to spark.
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>>839521
>>839530
for me, it's getting the one unit you was going to spark for as your sole 5* in the final ring of orbs before spark
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Is Medeus good?
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>>839659
I'll let you know after this month's fallen banner is revealed.
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>>839659
Medeus is as annoying to kill as Legendary Chicken IMO. Not broken or OP but can be annoying to handle especially when high invested or placed on save balls in AR-D.
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>>839659
He's pretty good, yeah.
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Hey lads, should I use Crafty or keep Slick for forma Rudolf?
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>>839828
What do you prefer, Guard on EP or negating any penalties? If you ask me, I'd go for the Crafty.
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>>839828
I'd keep Slick, being able to null foe buffs and null your debuffs at the same time is kinda neat
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>>839828
I'd take crafty because most debuffs you are hit by tend to be in-combat and guard is just that good especially on tanks so you don't get blown up by a def/res reducing special.
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>>839839
>>839973
Wouldn't his PRF only make foes hit him once? It's an omnibreaker as long as he has the bigger visibile Atk, and he won't need the Guard effect if he defeats the foe by doubling back.
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>>839659
If you care about AR he's great to shutdown Canto spammers
Tho wait for fallen powercreep trailer before rolling
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>>839828
I'd go with Crafty. Way I see it, the Stance 4 + Slick effect gives you guard + penalty negation. But the Crafty + Unity combo gives you guard + penalty reversal. So overall you're getting a better deal. On the other hand, if you're building him for AR, bright shrines won't target him because of his low spd, and all Unity skills involve atk.
Also you probably realize this but pick a better weapon that Courtly. You can get that from grails.

>>840018
Countpoint: B!Catria, NFU, and auto follow-ups. The later isn't that common on melee units, but I'd say the first two are real concerns.
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Why is IS so afraid of them?
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>>840292
Give Ophelia a bit more time before you stick her in the never-ever group.
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>>840292
I feel like Ophelia's due, especially since Ishtar got a refine.
Hector and Reinhardt absolutely never though, and I can't understand why.
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>>840292
>>840295
Hector got Berserk Armads so they never felt liking actually giving him a refine for Armads.

I feel like the reason Dire Thunder hasn't gotten a refine because Olwen and Reinhardt are so different. Olwen would want the -5 Spd removed and would want effects that let her quad a lot more easily. Stuff like built in Desperation or NFU + extra Atk and Spd or Spd/Res reduction on foe.

Reindhardt doesn't care about Spd. He just needs more Atk. Special Acceleration, Res debuffs on enemy. They could even make a Blue Tome version of Sword Reinhardt

Ophelia doesn't need to be there.
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>>840327
>Dire Thunder
I feel like that'd be all the more reason to give it a refine, just make it a refine suited for Olwen so that it's more focused on Spd while it doesn't really affect Reinhardt that much, if that's what they're worried about.
Maybe one good compromise is making the base effect dual phase but making the skill refine like, Desperation or Spd/Res reduction. Reinhardt can take advantage of the former, Olwen takes advantage of the latter.
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>>840292
ISIS is petrified of reinhardt because every time they allow cavalry to be good it warps the meta around them until they buff everything else to match.
He is also extremely accessible due to an early game fuckup of theirs allowing him to demote
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>>840333
i remember pulling a 5* and a 4* on his initial release. fun times
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>>840327
>>840332
They showed with Linus that they can easily give someone with a shared weapon their own unique Prf and refine in the same update. The only excuse for no Dire Thunder refine is they don't want to improve Reinhardt in any way at all, because updating Olwen would make people cry out if they didn't update Reinhardt at the same time.
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>>840332
A Dire Thunder Refine for Olwen would also need some true damage, considering how weak she is.

Unit attacks twice. If unit initiates combat or is not adjacent to an ally, grants Atk/Spd/Def/Res+5 to unit during combat.

Then a combination of enemy debuffs, NFU, Desperation, True Damage or more states.
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>>840340
You know what, true, they could always go the Linus route. Maybe call it Blessed Thunder or something.
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>>840341
>A Dire Thunder Refine for Olwen would also need some true damage, considering how weak she is.
At max investment on both she only has 5 less attack, she's honestly not THAT much weaker than Reinhardt. It's basically the Eliwood/BRoy problem where Reinhardt has an advantage statistically in one area, AND is much easier to merge, but because they're basically the same unit nobody is going to invest in the 5* version when they only have a minor advantage over the 3*-4* one. That being Olwen can more easily quad than Reinhardt, and it's not really that much of a meme for either of them anymore because the best stat buffing/debuffing skills hit two stats now, whereas Roy over Resplendent Eliwood has a whole two more Spd in exchange for 1 atk.

And all of them are basically powercrept anyway (Olwen/Reinhardt by Ninja Corrin and REliwood/BRoy by Reginn).
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>>840356
we also have spd/res menace now too
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>>840358
Yeah, but I wanted to give them the same build for comparison's sake. Spd/Res Menace is probably better on both of them because of how easy it is to get Atk buffs, but this is them both hitting as hard as they can.
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>>840356
To be fair in the context of a brave weapon that's 10 less damage. Obviously she makes up for it if she quads, but I'd say that -5 atk is pretty huge.

Also fun fact, no investment N!Igrene with an atk superbane reaches 48 atk and 42 spd with her weapon. Similar for N!Corrin with an atk bane. Gotta love 5 years worth of powercreep.
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Is it possible for Y!Innes to be on HoF or is it too early?
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>>840633
hard to say, either way, you won't find out for 6 months
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>>840635
It's a long wait, but I'm only interested in the FE8-10 HoFs for now.
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I keep this account, right?
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>>840694
I'd definitely say yeah. Two Ascendant florets, plus a Brave Marth and an Otr is pretty nice.
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>>840699
Worst one is Joshua because he's +Atk -Spd, but I guess I can just fix that and make his Spd neutral.
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>>840633
Personally I think it’s early but they can just skip over the colorless pick and just go for another color
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>>840633
Too early i think
Probably next rotation
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I'm at 290 orbs so far. Still have a lot of content to go through. Should I spark on the Ishtar banner? Should I try to roll for any units on the current banners?
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>>841598
My recommendation would be to use what you have now to clear out all of the story stuff, assuming you haven't spent much of what you have, you can probably amass the 1500~ orbs you need to (on average) get a +10 unit. In particular, we have the fallen units banner coming up soon, and that banner is always the herald of some new level of powercreep bullshit, so it would be a solid target.
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>>841637
I haven't spent anything. Got really lucky when I first started.
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>>841643
Seems like it, if that is the case you can probably afford to spark on the ishtar banner if you really want to and still have enough left over to have about 1500. By my math, assuming you clear out all of the current story mode and paralogues will net 1614 orbs, so that plus incidental orbs you get between now and then should get you more than enough. (and you can always dip into chain challenges if you need to, but that might be a bit more challenging.)
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>>841649
I'll spark. Who should I even get? Tine or a merge for Ishtar?

B!Edelgard and B!Eirika make Chain Challenge pretty easy.
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>>841650
If there isn't something you specifically want, I'd just save.
I'm sure your units can handle early chain challenge stuff easily enough, but you will find that later ones might be harder.
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>>841654
The only thing I want is Thorr, but I don't want to spend a lot of orbs to get her.
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>>841656
Yeah, legendary banners are a weird value proposition, and I'd recommend against going in on them with the goal of getting a copy of a specific unit. Best case scenario for legendary banners is if you want every unit on a color for multiple colors. Otherwise you can probably just avoid them. Sadly, those are going to be the only banners you can really get legendary units on, with some exceptions.
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>>841660
I'll just wait for the Thorr summer alt.
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is ingrid ever going to get multiplier, fucking hell
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>>841882
>will the popular pick get a multiplier
She'd be lucky to get one at all, I think. Usually it would've happened by now though.
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>>841882
Ingrid doesn't need multipliers.
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Has anyone here been using Ascendant Joshua in the voting gauntlet?
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>>842125
No
Is he good
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>>842202
I was hoping to find out
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>>842225
He's fine, not great. Generically good sweep effect dagger unit with weird positioning requirements.
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>>842233
>>842202
He's unique, since he really makes you consider your positioning, and both effects are helpful in some manner
You either do more damage or you deny counter attacks, although the former is probably more helpful overall
I don't think he's game breaking though, especially as long as Yuri exists, but he's still neat
Also, are we getting the new heroes trailer tonight?
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>>842125
Yeah, although it's a friend's. He's torn through everything so far, but it's hard to tell since gauntlet enemies aren't the most challenging or intelligently built. I've been using a +10 Titania, so the enemies have merges at least. It was neat seeing him tear through B!Edel's follow-up DR with Lethality.
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>>842125
No but I'll consider it if I end fighting for a unit I don't have.
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>>841882
She has one right now dumbass
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There's your Ingrid multiplier anon
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I FACTORY RESET MY PHONE WITHOUT BACKING UP MY ACCOUNT. IM A FUCKING RETARD. IM NEVER GETTING THAT LUCKY AGAIN. FUCK
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>Perceval lost
Welp, rip my man
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How do I build Fallen Dimitri without Ninja Yari? Slaying Lance?
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>>842313
God, looking at the difference between his weapon and F!Edel's, or even the Morgans, is fucking hilarious. Imagine having a three conditional effect.

Anyways, Ninja Naginata also works. You just want as many attacks as possible to make use of his high offenses and counterattack block. If they ever release a lance that gives him offensive NFU, that'd work too. Springy Lance and Piercing Tribute give atk/spd buffs, so those are options if you have them. Brave lance would be the low cost choice. Slaying lance works if you want Galeforce or moonbow procs.
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>>842328
Don't have any of those. I wasn't using my main when those came out.
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>>842333
Well, slaying or brave lance it is
Ninja Naginata is 4*, so it shouldn't be hard to get whenever that rerun is. Problem is a lot of inheritable lances buff atk and def, but he doesn't really want def.
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>>842296
what'd you do that for dude
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>>842249
>Yeah, although it's a friend's
atk/spd unity one?
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>>842385
Yes, Flashing Blade seal too
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>>842412
any changes to his kit that you'd like to see/something you see he has trouble punching through?
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>sniping red for FMMorgan
>this happens
This ain't gonna end well.
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516 orbs going all in for loli Mia
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>Had a pretty decent account years ago
>Lost it when my phone died and I never backed it up like a retarded
>Dropped the game
>Feeling the itch again now that I've got a night shift job where nothing happens.
How new player friendly is the game right now bros? Am I just shooting myself on the foot from the get go? Should I even bother?
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>>842585
It's both very new player friendly (you get tons of free 5*s without even needing to roll them) and not new player friendly (arena modes basically require getting the same unit 11 times to score optimally, but can be avoided if you don't care about PvP).

This is a pretty good time to start, actually. Golden week events are still up and you can very easily get 5 rolls on each of the 5 banners to get you started. Pick Edelgard and Eirika as your CYL freebies and along with Peony and Reginn (Book 4 and 5 freebies) you can basically clear all the PvE content with little effort.
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>>842554
I managed to pull 4 copies, totalling to a net +8. Definitely lucky according to the sim. Seems I'll have to wait for the double special to +10 since I'm broke, but at least I won't have to gamble on a 3% colorshare anymore after this. I've been lucky to only pull 3 duo Ikes up until now.
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>>842585
Kind of hard for me to judge, as not a new player, but I wish I had it as easy as new players do when I started.
Back in my day we rerolled until we got a hector or takumi and hoped that would carry us.
Nowadays, you start off with multiple really great units for free, and have enough orbs from story missions to +10 whatever the fuck you want.
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>>842286
>4:08 am
of course it happens then, fuck gmt
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>>842589
You can stay in tier 17 arena and go up to 18 every other week just on Intermediate difficulty and you dodge most of the horseshit, while collecting 3/4 orbs every week

Hell, all the Arena modes (and some events like Rokkr Siege and Mjolnir's Strike) can be kept up with on Intermediate if you don't care about getting max rewards

Aether Raids and Summoner Duels lack an Intermediate option and so it's worth just skipping if you don't want to put up with cancer
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Countdown 806 Divine Codes to go
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Got Distant Pressure on big dad Rudolf in Hall of Forms, not that it's the ideal skill, but it raises a question
If I use the Forma Soul and I had Distant Pressure, would Rudolf come with Distant Counter as well since that's a prereq? He should, right?
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>>842968
Yup, DC comes with Distant Pressure for formas
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>>842968
That's like asking if you would get Null Follow Up 1 and 2 if you got NFU 3 as a skill. It's not something you should have to question, anon.
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>>842585
I think it's friendly as long as you don't want to score well in anything competitive, like in arena or AR. You just can't compete with whales or tryhards that have years worth of specific units to score well, but you can still get decent rewards and do pretty much every event. If you're serious about it, I'd wait a couple days before committing to an account: On the 11th there should be a Fallen banner, and last year that brought enormous, game-changing powercreep. Like, the kind of stuff that affected even casual players. It might not this year, but I'd still wait for the trailer at least.

>>842968
The better question is why you're giving him DC in the age of save skills.
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>>843161
>The better question is why you're giving him DC in the age of save skills.
Is DC + Far Save no good? We have Distant Stance at least, and we're probably gonna get the non-recoil inducing Atk version, as well as the Def version at some point
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>>843168
It's possible, but you're giving up at least +5 to another stat and an extra effect for the DC. Since save skills let armors fight at a single range, it's better to have them fight at their base range so you can use a better skills than DC/CC ones. The only exceptions are Fjorm, who has DC in her prf and a special made to counter ranged, and B!Hector, who has a busted prf and prf DC.

If you're not using him for anything competitive it could work out okay, but I'd still try to pivot toward Near Save and a better A-skill if you can. Also, just to make sure, you know the non-recoil Atk verison of DC wouldn't help him since his prf is based on before-combat atk, right?
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>>843185
>Also, just to make sure, you know the non-recoil Atk verison of DC wouldn't help him since his prf is based on before-combat atk, right?
That checks visible Atk? Well shoot
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>>843187
Yep, the check is
>At start of combat, if unit's Atk > foe's Atk
No real way to boost that either. Fury and LnD would kill his bulk, and there's no Phantom Atk. Best solution is Atk/Def Menace, but then he doesn't have a save skill.
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>>843191
just give him fury and pair him with medeus
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>no ingrid multi again
I usually join the rarer unit as less people join on, shoulda known the waifu appeal was stronger than a 1.1x multiplier appeal
Bet it will turn up at 4am again, almost willing her to lose so I can join Jagen and use these flags
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>trying to do the VG quests
>keep getting the same 3 friend units
>all green
There is no fucking way that I only have 3 friends out of 149 that are on the same team as me. I refuse to believe this.
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Different guy than the other Python. I just pulled a Atk/Spd Menace, and I'm wondering if I should switch it with Atk/Def Menace or not. I'm thinking that with Python's low attack it will be easier to secure kills with Atk/Def menace, but Atk/Spd could help with getting quads.
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>>844424
My experience with brave weapons in the current meta is that the first two attacks matter disproportionately more than the latter two. Brave units are more often than not, going to score the kill in the first two attacks, or not at all.
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>>844424
The problem with Python is that his overall stats are very mediocre, he needs all the help he can get in Atk and Spd while also dealing as much damage as possible. If you choose Atk/Def, you're gimping your Speed but if you choose Atk/Spd, you might miss a one-round kill even with the Ninja Yumi bonus. The other problem is that both Spd/Def Catch and Menace still don't exist and he can't learn Spd/Def Ideal.
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>>844431
Why would he need Spd/Def Catch? Gaining more Def doesn't do anything for him. It's not like he's running Bonfire.
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>>844435
Oh, that was completely my bad, I was under the idea that it inflicted Spd/Def -7 on the opponent, not that it increases the unit's stats. Nevermind then, Atk/Spd Catch would be the most optimal choice.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WSd2YXfe2OU&t=30s
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>Muarim GHB
Tormod... eventually.
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>all dragons
Call me when ISIS stops being retarded
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>>844517
Bro, Gustav?
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>>844511
A mostly dragon banner and daddy Gustav. Anyone going to roll on this? I really like the smoke 4 skills. Speed = dodge and def= negate enemy follow-up and both give stats.
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>>844521
Whoops meant attack not def smoke.
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>>844521
Will just use tickets and free summon. Nothing else. Hopefully I'll get something. Don't really care about any of hte units.
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>>844526
Personally I might try to get atk smoke 4 for my Garon he needs the extra bulk. Sad I'll have to kill Alphonse's dad.
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>>844511
So the 60% damage reduction during first combat is going to be the new gimmick. And is obviously how hard they're trying to not repeat another F!Edelgard.

Also, weren't we supposed to get the seasonal first? How annoying.
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>>844521
I'd roll for the immaculate one if her kit didn't seem so wonky. Probably gonna throw the summons at Nini and dip.
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>>844529
If you meant bridal, I thought it always came after the fallen banner.
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>>844511
Don't know the context for Fallen Lilith but okay. The new smoke skills are very spicy.
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>>844511
Other than new wall skill and Ninian being cute as always. My stones are safe.
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>>844511
The only disappointment I have are still no fallen Wrys and was hoping for Aelfric instead of Rhea but IS needed to add a top tier waifu to sell the banner if not just for skills.
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>>844511
I'm laughing right now what if you give Yen'fay Vital Astra, PRF, B slot dodge, and spd smoke just to be a complete ass to your opponents (only for them to pull a young Innes/deadeye unit but we don't talk about that).
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>>844511
>really like Rhea
>have no interest in this one
>first time i've ever felt like this about an alt of a character that I liked
i think im finally tired of this game.
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>>844511
>True Dragon Wall
Great, my save build Fae has just been powercrept. Wish I could recoup the 15 flowers I used on her.
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>>844559
Feel the same for this Rhea alt. Still going to continue building Halloween Rhea instead. Still wondering when Rehea/Serios will get their Prf blade all iterations so far have been dragons.
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>>844511
Really hope the tier 4 smoke skills don't have any restrictions because these skills can really help out Cav/flier units gain abilities they'd typically be locked out of like {dodge}.
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>>844573
man i really really don't want to fight a bunch of tanky cav units that give themselves fucking wary fighter after the first combat
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>>844516
How is he fallen?
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>>844577
Pulled from the FE wiki. Never played PoR/RD so someone who has can give more clarification.
>Izuka uses him as an experiment subject for turning laguz into Feral Ones. Just as Muarim is about to reach breaking point of his sanity, Rafiel sings the Galdr of Rebirth to calm his enraged soul.
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>>844521
I'll roll for spd smoke 4 if ranged units can inherit it, otherwise it's a skip.
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>>844584
Thanks anon, that's kinda fucked up.
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>>844584
Basically he gets drugged in a cutscene and is about to turn into a Feral One, which I find odd since it's like Celica from the first Fallen Banner where she appears in like 10 seconds before disappearing in the actual game she appears in.
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>>844516
Next PoR/RD banner will probably have them, gonna be weird because he might be the first PoR beast unit (not counting backpack Ninian)
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Jagen sisters
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>>844608
On the one hand, we're at least getting another Beast unit, and for free, but on the other, because he's free, you already know he's just gonna be your typical high Atk and Def and low Spd and Res kinda unit
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>>844618
And you just know he's gonna be green, so basically NYKeaton. I don't know why, but god damn this is just shifting the minor burnout I was feeling into absolute overdrive.
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>>844610
Fuck, meant backpack Leanne.
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>>844620
Oh yeah, I forgot he's literally green so he's likely green here too
He's gonna also just come with like, Atk/Def Push or something
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Tomato
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Sugee! Rhea, you look strong!
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>>844626
>implying im not giving her Distant Stance and making her a far save
Shiggy diggy
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>>844511
Gonna roll for spd smoke fodder (assuming ranged units can inherit them) and Rhea
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>>844521
I don't know, still sounds niche. For me the first fight is still the most important one, which is why vital astra's secondary effect needs precharging otherwise it will not be active often. Someone like B!Ike might like them though.
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>>844649
Yeah, spd smoke 4 seems weak. Any unit with enough spd to benefit from dodge usually wants it during their first combat. And they're usually fragile enough that they don't want to tank more enemies with dodge unless they have to. Only exception I can think of is L!Marth, since he has the pseudo-firesweep effect. I'm assuming it's melee-only though, if it's not then ranged units can snipe a melee unit and then tank the ranged threats behind them.

On the other hand atk smoke 4 seems powerful. Plenty of slow units with guaranteed follow-ups but no way to prevent them, like Dussel or L!Sigurd.
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>>844511
>rhea is a save unit
>dragons can't learn stride
sadness
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>>842439
I don't know how good Atk/Spd Unity is on him. It forces him to stay within range of his allies, and his prf is best when he can choose where to initiate. On the other hand, it does give him a cute buff negation+penalty reversal combo with his prf's other effect.
Only thing he has trouble punching through is guard effects, since Flashing Blade is per unit's attack. Obviously you can't give him Tempo without losing NFU, so it's tough. I might give him Ruptured Sky so he can shit out 35% of foe's atk whenever, but I understand wanting Lethality's enormous power, especially since DR is only going to get more common. Tough choices.
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>>844692
There is a possibility they'll share availability with the base smoke skills, like how Menaces didn't suddenly become exclusive.
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>>844536
The dlc for Fates that is about Owain, Severa and Inigo going to Fateslandia on the good half of Anankos' request has Lillith as an enemy as she's following the evil/degraded side of Anankos before being converted
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>>844559
really doesn't help that most of these alts are just red eyes and purple smoke, there's no cool flair to them like Berkut or Edelgard
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I would've much preferred if spd smoke granted NFU instead, so I can run it alongside tempo.
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So Ninian's Call to Flame will be on an eventual Legendary Ninian right?
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I just realized that Medeus doesn't need allies near him to grant En Garde and the Atk and Res buff
Just fought one that was barreling towards me on his own in a Voting Gauntlet map, fully buffed and armed to the teeth
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>>844511
I'm surprised they held back on Fallen Rhea, not that she's bad but ultimately all she has is huge damage reduction, true damage, Wary Fighter, and healing. She's more enemy phase focused while Fallen Edelgard is a menace in both. Unless they super min max Rhea and give her like the highest Res in the game or something.
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>>844763
>>844559
>>844570
Honestly, what were you guys expecting.
IS to produce completely original concept for Fallen Heroes? The theme has been super stale for quite sometime but they seem to continue on with it because the player base eats that hog shit right up. At least this time Lilith and Ninian bring something new to the table along with the tier four smoke skills.
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I'm glad they got sober this time around. You could make the argument that while F!Edelgard was bad and centralizing, the reaction to her was worse and introduced a slew of hyper-offensive apex predators that accelerated power creep past the point of no return.
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>>845019
Nah, it'll just be a powerspike version of it.
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>>845047
Ninian feels like a cross between Triandra (refresh that inflicts Guard), Legendary Azura (granting +1 Mov to certain unit types), and granting the Special accel status is also kinda neat
I had a feeling we would get a super refresher Ninian at some point
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>>844259
Post your face when Ingrid literally didn't get a single multiplier in round 2.
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>>844266
Cri about it
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I really wish we had S/D Far Trace, but this looks pretty good.
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>>845047
I'd just like the designs to have a bit more flair to them. I know it's the case for a lot of these alts but there's absolutely nothing eyecatching this time. More orbs for the brides/summer banners I guess
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>>845282
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>>844511
Really boring. Went right for Elimine when I saw the trailer.
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>>845372
>Went right for Elimine when I saw the trailer.
Was your faith rewarded?
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Why does the heal effect of Sturdy Surge not seem to work with Blazing Wind?

>if unit deals damage to foe using a Special, restores HP = X% of unit's max H (X = unit's max Special cooldown count value × 20, + 10; max 100). (Triggers even if 0 damage is dealt.)

Doesn't say anything about not applying to area-of-effect specials, yet whenever my special activates, no HP is restored.

Should I just use Distant Stance as my A skill instead?
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>>845610
Anything that activates outside of combat doesn't work with surge skills
>area-of-effect specials
>galeforce
Also for DS im just gonna say yes
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>>845610
Forgot to add that I think non-damaging specials also don't work with surge skills either
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>>845610
AoEs work off visible attack so even if Surge worked it's a suboptimal skill to use in conjunction with Blazing Wind.
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Remember feud c skills?
lol
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Thank you Kiran, who wasn't a bot but did give me an easy win in SD-R. I hope those two kills at the end salvaged your score loss.
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>>845960
I only ever see them in SD, its really the only place they're really good in
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>>846135
>"if foe is non-magic, reduces damage from attacks during combat and form area of effect specials... 30% and foe cannot counter attack"
What the fuck, why? This effect is a total nonbo. If your opponent cannot counterattack, why would you need DR? So you can... put him in range of melee units and still watch him die because he is made of tissue paper?
>thea gets the jew effect and only gets a stat swing out of it
Fucking BORING
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>>846135
These are pretty boring.
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>everyone except staff units can inherit smoke 4 skills
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>>846173
>>everyone except staff units can inherit smoke 4 skills
Ah yes, as usual, staff units are second class citizens. At least everything else can have them.
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>>845416
Got her in about 150 orbs. And a Julia and Medeus too.
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>>846135
That's an absurdly long way to say unit gets stats for dragonflowers jesus christ
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>>846135
I'm just going to copypaste what I said about these to my friend.
"There isn't any clear winner in this batch. Everyone just got workable weapons. Ones that technically help but won't bridge the gap in powercreep."
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>Thea completely mogs her sister
Just like in my fe6 playthrough
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>>846135
Is Thea's atk/def +6 buff for 1 turn a visible one?
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>>846135
I think the might be the lamest refine batch yet, to be honest
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>>846135
>Kaden's base effect includes "if unit i within 3 spaces of an ally, +5 Atk/Spd during combat"
>Kaden's skill refine includes "if unit is within 3 spaces of an ally, +5 Atk/Spd during combat"
There's just so many ways to say "if unit = exists, grants effects", huh
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>>846519
yes
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>>846519
Yes
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>>846554
Seeing as her weapon is enemy phase she could probably make use of the new tier 4 smokes.
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How many orbs do I theoretically need for Christmas Manuela
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>>846578
For one copy? Maybe fifty to a hundred
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>>846578
I'm not so sure for demotes but 5* exclusives it is ~120- 130 orbs per merge. Demotes if I remember is depending on color ~20-40 orbs per merge on average.
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>>846135
Did you ever have to pay to recruit Thea? That explains Farina and Hugh at least and their Dragonflower effects but I don't remember having to do the same for Thea
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>>846578
Took me atleast 400 orbs to +10 my WHilda back when she released so maybe 500 or so?
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>>846601
Ok found breakdown by Eldervi. Sad he quit FEH content but here is is breakdown.
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>>846604
No
You need to recruit Klein and then talk with her with either Klein or Shanna
I think it has to do with her being a mercenary and shit but still pretty weird
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>>846578
Anywhere from 200-500? I actually finished my Ilyana in 201 orbs but I think ~400 is a more reasonable estimate.
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>>844618
>>844620
>>844623
Not much for fodder but Muarim actually looks kinda decent
His weapon is actually an omni Menace minus the self stat buff, but he gets +6 Atk/Spd during combat and he nulls foes bonuses
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>>846656
Scratch that, I knew there was some caveat, his transformation activation is different
>At start of turn 2, turn 4, and all later turns, unit transforms (otherwise, unit reverts).
>If unit transforms, grants Atk+2, deals +7 damage when Special triggers, and neutralizes effects that grant "Special cooldown charge +X" to foe
or inflict "Special cooldown charge -X" on unit during combat, but after combat, if unit attacked, deals 5 damage to unit.
This suggests that he can actually transform while next to non Dragon or Beast allies, but on the first and third turn he still gets the Menace and Dull effects but not the infantry Beast Tempo effect and true damage
Now I'm not so sure about this, but it's also hard to say no to a free all stat debuff, it's just his own combat capabilities that become slightly worse for two turns
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>>846135
Congrats to Thea then
I'm still building up Marcia, Karin's cute too
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I wonder why they kept the "if foe can counter" condition on Gustav rather than just make it "if unit initiates combat" or something
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>>846656
He's an interesting unit but his fodder is straight out of 2019, what the hell
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>>846712
Still waiting for solos and rouses to get demoted...
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>>846135
Kaden's is actually mistranslated, he grants the def/res+2 guard tannebatton effect to allies, not himself. Basically an upgraded support skill, unlike what Aversa got.

>>846537
If he makes full use of his cav movement, he can easily exceed the 3 spaces limit. Not really always-on.
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>>846554
I feel like spd/res rouse 4 will do wonders to her but who knows when we might get that
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>>847003
Fliers can't use Rouses anyway idt
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>>847402
Yikes
Good art but why him
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>>847402
Lmao. Looks good at least.
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>>847402
They remembered Gaius exists, so that's something
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>>847409
Because the last two were 5* exclusive. Need to throw a real shitter in there too.
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>free summon Ascended Ishtar
>+Spd -Def too
Neat
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>>847402
Very funny IS
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>summoned up to spark on the fallen banner
>don't actually know which thing to grab
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>>847455
spd smoke fodder
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>>847517
That is probably what I am going to go with, the meme power of dodge on a c skill is just too much fun.
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>free summon Lillith
>-att like my regular Lillith
this poor girl is doomed to be the butt of every joke isn't she
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>no focus units in 40 summons
>spark Lilith
>can't use her as fodder right away because I'll probably need her as a bonus unit
hate when this happens
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>>847649
Can't you just use Maurim instead?
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>>847402
Lmao
Good for those 2 Gaius fans out there
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Just realized spd smoke 4 would be great on NY!Lethe and Freyja
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What's the best build for Hilda? Freikugel is kinda shit honestly. Wanted to try Galeforce with Ninja Masakari or something really dumb like Shuriken Cleaver and Flashing Blade 4.
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>>847678
You're right, I forgot about him.
But she'd be slightly better than him for arena, and she also doesn't cost me any feathers.
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Eitri calling the entire FEH fanbase schizos.
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>>847787
Eitri is one of the few heroes OCs that's actually good. And not just because she's a cute loli. Though it does help.
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>>847787
Based gun loli
>>848008
She's also very strong too, and gets Canto to boot
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On the subject of loli I wanted to try out a new lead but Im pretty stumped on what to give her for an A skill and B skill. I was thinking some B skill that’ll let her attack twice would be ideal for her.
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>>833675
>current 8% banner has Medeus, Julia, Idunn
>Both Flows on the odd green only pity break
>don't particularity care for Miccy or Elimine.
but
>Medeus shares with Ashera in july
>Fallen Rhea happened despite being pigeonholed as save tank
I think I'm done for now but It irks me because Medeus is someone I was waiting for.
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>>848164
>It irks me because Medeus is someone I was waiting for.
So wait a little longer. Be satisfied with fact that he is in.
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>>848062
Are breaths universal for dragons (ie. could a green unit use an inheritable breath that belonged to a different colour)?
Lantern Breath from Halloween Kurth would be a nice weapon for her which means you wouldn't have to run Crafty Fighter and could run maybe Slick Fighter instead. Maybe something like
>Lantern Breath, Close Def 4, Slick Fighter
>any other breath, T3 stance (eg Sturdy Stance 3), Slick or Wily Fighter
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>>848215
Im not sure if lantern breath is tied only to Kurth but Fae can learn Ena’s pale breath despite being different colors. So thats a good idea I also just assumed all breath attacks were color/unit locked, thanks.
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>>848215
Yes breaths are inheritable across colors as long as they are not prf, much like bows and daggers
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Anyone else building a unit from this batch? I was NOT expecting Fallen Lilith anytime soon so I was completely unprepared and only got her to +4. and used a bit of money to get some of the orb packs. I'm very happy her art is so beautiful and she has a unique niche that won't get powercrept for a very long time. Any other Lilith fans out here?
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>>848341
Does it really count as building a unit if they can only do one thing?
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>>848341
Congrats anon, I'm pretty sure you're the only Lilith fan here, possibly anywhere. Who's gonna be her support partner?

>>848390
Yes, obviously. Better question is if it really counts as building if it's just their base skillset.
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>>848341
I guess I could build Lilith or Rhea. I have the orbs and a second +10 would be nice. My only one is Hilda
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>>848397
Thanks. OG Lilith is already supported with L!Corrin, so I'm probably gonna just put it on some tanky 3 move unit. Currently its Yuri because I'm grinding up favor for her. Also, by building I meant merging. I can't really do anything unique with her set because S/R Near Trace isn't out and there aren't many good PP flier B skills.
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>>848438
>and there aren't many good PP flier B skills
Nothing in her prf about PP besides teleporting, she gets a spectrum buff instead of just atk/spd, her defenses aren't bad, and she gets DR from spd smoke. DC+dragon's wrath or wall would work great on her. Just a thought.
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Gustav wanted his final rest so I did I had to do.
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>>848513
This hurt a little since I killed him for his smoke skill only.
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>>848540
This is why I'm waiting for when spd smoke 4 gets on a sparkable infantry with other infantry skills.
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>>848490
>SD-R nowhere in sight
Good
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How does this look?
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>>848702
Forgot to mention, should have Flashing Blade 3 later today.
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My Rhea looks kinda funny
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>>848817
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong route, Silver Snow is two blocks down
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I got a 4* special Minerva
Is she salvageable?
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>>848855
Just wait for the Flower Hauteclere refine. IS will be nice and will let Minerva and Michalis learn it.
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>>848862
Seems nice, being able to dream
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>>847711
>>848702
>>848704
You could bench her and wait for her refine?
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Almost had to spark Arthur for Summer Mercedes, only got 2 copies of Picnic Felicia after 300 orbs, I had to spark for Ninian then got a 5.50% rate just to get pity broken by Volke instead of the other fallen units. I'm done with cute girls wake me up when we get Alois, Dilf Askr, or alts for Gerik, Caineghis, or Keaton drawn by Okuma Yugo.
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I somehow managed to get soulful Idunn to +5 and I already got the regular one on +10 built with near save. Which one should I build as a far save armor, the regular or ascended one? Also I feel bad about how much I ignore the spring one
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>>849249
I don't blame you. The art for that version looks off.
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>>849249
make ascended the far save
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Are all the units that come with Far Save seasonal?
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>>849711
afjorm isn't seasonal
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>>849090
Everyone has bad luck every once in a while but hey at least your 5 star rate on the banner is 4.5 instead of 3 percent. Also what kind of build are you using for Mercedes that you'd pull for Arthur?
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>>849736
I'd need to pull 2 to be able to give someone Hardy Fighter and whatever Save skill she has.
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how do i make a +atk nifl useful
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>>849969
She's useful as a flash support unit and as a dr bot like Elimine. Give her like windsweep, canto, or hit and run just to apply flash.
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>>848702
Usable. Honestly if you want inspiration for builds then just look at the SD leaderboards for fast infantry axes without prfs, because that's basically all she is without her prf.
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I have Rhea at +1 and I have yet to pull a +Atk or +Res.
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>>850247
+9 not +1
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>>849902
>spooked by Flavia at 6.5% on Idunn's weekly revival
>"well at least I got some pity le-"
>Regular Mareeta on the next roll
Still seething at that useless update
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Is it good luck to have +10'd Hilda and Rhea only using Normal and Hard Story Mode/Paralouges and Blessed Gardens?
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>>850247
>am at +5
>only one of them wasn't +Atk
>but well over 1500 orbs
I feel like the only time I get good IVs is when I get royally screwed with how many orbs it costs. It's either +10'd in 800 orbs with no good IVs or +5 long after I should have +10'd with every single copy being the right IV.
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>>850291
how many orbs is that? It does sound kinda lucky, yeah.
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>>850291
That's sounds pretty good. You have orbs left in your Squad Assault and Chain Challenges too I take it?
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>>850346
Squad Assault, Chain Challenges and Lunatic Main Story/Paralogues.
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>>849902
I completely forgot about the rate change since I don’t summon too often I guess I will throw some orbs at the banner before it ends. And this is my Summer Mercedes build for context when she first released and the double hero banner I never got +Atk or Res so I made +spd work so I pulled for Arthur mainly for spd/res menace but I remembered Miriel has atk/spd Ideal so Mercedes will get both after arena changes.
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>>850385
Cavalry can't get Ideal skills....
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>>850389
It's an honest mistake people make.
>Ideal= infantry/armor
>Catch= cavalry/flier
Though catch is far superior than ideal.
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I have stopped playing AR almost completely, I'm so fucking done wasting time changing bonus units and assigning sets
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>>850389
>>850389

I have never used Ideal or Catch outside of characters that naturally have it so I didn’t think about movement restrictions. I do have a Farina that I randomly showed up so Mercedes could have Atk/Spd Catch.
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>>850466
I honestly wish I had atk/spd catch 4 fodder, I have about 6 units that would want it. Ironically I'm drowning in atk/spd Ideal 4 fodder. The only unit that has gotten it so far is L!Marth beyond him I don't have ideal candidates for the skill in general. Maybe give it to Yuri? Who knows?
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>>850247
probably a good opportunity to use trait fruit at least
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I really want to get a Gustav to give my Ares A/D Near Trace, and Atk Smoke 4 too, I guess. Should I do it? Also Velouria rerun when? I was hoping I'd randomly pull one when getting my Rheas.
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>>850561
No, do a speed build instead :)
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>>850624
I'm going with Growing Wind for Summoner Duels.
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>>850446
I just do the bare minimun to stay in tier 21
If it wasn't literally the only way to get grails i would drop it completely
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>Gustav reappears in the story
>Alfonse doesn't even utter a word
They probably explore this in the Forging Bonds but still, you'd think he'd have some kinda reaction
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Forcing him to fight while he's on a feral state feels wrong, though it's not like he has a chance to get added normally anytime soon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM0RdjqaJaE
Have you been making effective use of Canto Control?
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>>850978
I don't even have Mikoto so no
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>>850957
I'm also surprised he's not green, since he is literally green
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>>850978
How would one even make "effective use" of Canto Control outside of a defense team?
>requires either foddering a mythic or deploying deadweight Mikoto
>depends entirely on your opponent having Canto to Control
>only mode with abundant canto is SD
>merely forces the enemy to trade kills with you
>some of the biggest threats don't even have canto (NY!Dagr, V!Chrom, save armors)
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Nothing like a string of bad luck to remind you how garbage summoning is

Wasn't even sniping, but still got up to 7.19% on the 5th brave banner. Had to spend over 350 orbs to get two focus units after two pity breaks. Fucking awful Also got LUKE'D for the first time but at least he's pseudo 5* now
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>>851251
Yeah, the gacha giveth, and the gacha taketh away
I remember spending 350+ orbs on a banner (the first brave units banner, back in the day) and didn't get a single focus unit, and sometimes you spend 900 orbs and get a +10 unit out of it.
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Thanks IS...
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>>851601
what was your damage?
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>>851620
it's a prf skill anon what were you expecting?
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>>851620
If it has a white border is a prf anon
you should know this by now...
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>>851648
>>851652
I dont even know what a prf skill is.
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>>851672
Unit exclusive skill
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Not gonna lie i'm enjoy using her
Wish i had guard bearing
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>>851685
Assuming you didn't claim it from Toilet paper Vol. 2 the Three Houses line has summer Ingrid with guard bearing. Also giving Thea speed smoke 4 with guard bearing will unlock oompa stupid bulk.
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>>851694
Unfortunately i did and i already used it i might go all out on the fallen banner for smoke 4
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>>851629
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>>851678
Must have missed where the game explains that.
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>>851800
it's a fan term
the game explains it by saying 'this skill is exclusive to its original unit' but 'prf skill' is quicker to type
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>>851806
That text does not appear on the check hero screen though. You see that first after summoning her unless im missing something.
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>>851810
It'll only appear on the screen for skill inheritance iirc or any other situation where restrictions would be present
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>>851815
Not that wierd to not know its not inheritable then imo.
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>>851818
I'm not the same person you were talking to tbf, I stuck my oar in at >>851806
Must admit, I hadn't clocked the white boundary on Prf Skills either, despite them being around since mid-book 1

I think you were being a bit optimistic with that skill though, there's way too much going on there for that not to be a Prf
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>>851828
Yeah, but its no big deal. I wanted her anyways and would have summoned another copy if it would have been inheritable.
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>>851725
Good to see someone drew that. Wanted to use this meme last year when I was rolling for my Daughter.
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>>852020
Yeah, I remember that one being pretty brutal. Rhea just fucking murdered me.

>took over 800 orbs to get to the second (non-spark) copy
>had pulled more Brave/Academy Claudes than Rheas at that point
It's always awful when you feel the need to wait a day or two just to maybe unfuck the RNG.
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>>852043
Hurt my soul reading that. I promised to +10 her in a day but yeah maybe 2 copies in 1000 orbs was just not acceptable. Had to stop and try again later, eventually worked out but Severa could still be shopping with the funds I spent on her. And I'd do it again for regular Severa.
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>>852043
>wait a day or two just to maybe unfuck the RNG.
Is this really a thing?
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>>852130
Probably not, but it feels like it when you go from 2 copies in 800 orbs to 5 copies in 400 after waiting a day.
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>>851476
Yeah, I left out the context that I somehow luckshit A!Idunn on the menace banner freeroll. Guess my luck balanced out, in some fucked up way. Or maybe the game was just encouraging me to keep rolling meta shitters instead of SI for my faves.

>>852043
Wish I could've done that. You really feel it when you get the same 4* twice in a row, multiple times.
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>>852217
the worst is pulling 3*s, you have the optimism ripped from you early
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Pulled fallen gustav and was reminded how much i hate cavalry units.
Worst type in the game by far.
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>>850561
>Velouria rerun when
Late August.
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>>852388
>put both Hector reruns on the same week so people can't save for DC
>put M!Byleth two months apart so you can easily save for Ruptured Sky+DC
Weird
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>>852433
The way in which ISIS treats DC is so bizarre. It has been strictly powercrept at this point, and basically everybody who wants it already comes with it in some fashion. It exists at this point only to make a handful of bad units slightly less bad, yet they still treat it as an ultra premium skill.
They could literally make a DC seal and it wouldn't even affect the meta much.
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>>852441
It's still an enormously helpful skill for PvE content. Not everything is about the meta. If IS can make a buck by making a favorite unit slightly less bad, they'll take it.
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>>852485
This, even if DC's seen better days it's always helpful in PvE where you have to fight as many enemy unit types as possible
And such units are pretty efficient for auto-ing like, Tempest Trials and stuff since they're not a sitting duck on either phase most of the time
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DC is good in SD too I find. Prevents ranged enemies from initiating or taking chip shots. Lets you move away more freely from your far save as well.
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Is there a good f2p friendly far save unit out there? Finally went in on building my close save arden, and now he needs a friend to protect him from scary mages.
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>>852649
BK lol
The ranged prflet grail armors would be serviceable but at max investment for high level purposes they're mediocre
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>>852433
Green is a better colour to pull on than red.
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>>852649
Ignatz or Felix
I just went with the cutest one of the bunch
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Mythic/Legendary remix banners are good excuse to put Ascended Heroes (and Duo Ephraim) huh
Not a bad thing necessarily, but they feel like good filler units to round out these banners
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>>852649
I +10'd Felix and gave him Far Save but I just end up using Fjorm or Valentine's Robin as my Far Save units since their capabilities, even without a single merge, greatly outweigh whatever Felix can do, who just has stats and a stat swing (from Spendthrift Bow+) at the end of the day
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>>852914
Speaking of cutest, next week should be fun. I knew those extra Yuris would come in handy eventually.
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Got a defense win on another FEHtuber.
Just wait until Fallen FCorrin gets her refine, then it's all over.
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>>853045
>FEHtuber
>scoring that low
Yikes, kids will watch anything these days.
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>>853045
Got one from the same dude a while ago. I hate his retarded showcases so it felt nice.
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>>853045
I think i got one from a twitch streamer once(He had TTV on his name or something), i wish i had found the vod to save it but it was probably off stream
>>853050
This is unironically one of those retards that does unit showcase of fully buffed units with supports like Blucina
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>>853045
I get defense wins out the ass seemingly randomly. My team isn't even that hard to crack or high scoring. I just assume anyone who loses is a bot.
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>>853045
>>853059
How many (you)s do you all tend to get? I dunno if I ever get wins over youtubers, but then, I don't really keep up with who they are, so I don't know if I have.
That said, this is a pretty light week for me so far, though from what I notice I tend to get a bunch of them on sunday/monday. My team isn't exactly high scoring, so I imagine I am mostly just filtering out lower tiers.
I really wish I could see replays of arena defense victories. No reason why we don't have them at this point, honestly.
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>>853055
Well I wouldn't watch any unit showcase in the first place. But I don't see the issue with fully buffing the showcase unit to show what they're capable of at full potential. I assume most players (especially the ones that would click on a showcase video) can't fathom playing FEH without 3 supports hyper buffing 1 unit. The FEHtuber in question has Dancer Inigo as his Arena lead; that tells me all I need to know immediately.
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>>853059
>proudly displaying lack of ability to get a platinum trophy
Embarrassing!
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>>853104
I usually get lots of defenses for whatever reason. I don't see the value in Arena replays. Maps are random, unit placement depends on the map, you can't really optimize anything and it would just lead to bullying players in an already overwhelmingly unfun game.
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>>853104
I just have one unit up and usually get a couple defenses every time AA runs. I can't remember the last time I had an actual defense team.
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>>853045
Speaking of defense wins
>defense team is +10 favs theme team
>but they're not exactly optimally built or high scoring, and it's three melee units and a non-offense staff
>get maybe one win per month
>V!Chrom gets released, swap one of the unit for him (+0, only SI is vantage)
>get a win every week
I feel kinda bad about it so I put him away as soon as I get the win. I don't even really need the feathers.

>>853104
Anon, who hurt you to make your arena defense two ranged fliers and a flying dancer?
>No reason why we don't have them at this point
Arena doesn't have set turn counts like AR or SD. They can take thousands of turns if the players wants to. There can also be "infinite" arena battles per week, since it doesn't have stamina like AR or a fixed endpoint like SD, and long time players have thousands of dueling crests.
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>>853126
Exactly. Giving people something to look at leads to them intentionally making more cancerous teams just to get replays and makes arena even more ass cancer than it already is.
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>>853144
>Anon, who hurt you to make your arena defense two ranged fliers and a flying dancer?
I'd understand if you don't believe me, but mostly it is just a team of characters I like. Except reyson, who I admit is mostly just my only +10 dancer so I figured I should toss them in.
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>>853104
I get one 450+ win a week which is enough to get my Arena defense rewards and then I never check them again.
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>>853126
Forgot to include my image, not that it really matters.
>>853145
Hyper whales at the very top are pretty much the only players with a lot of choice as to what units they use for Arena. Most opponents at that level abuse the obviously broken shit even without an incentive but yeah I don't think it's a wise idea to encourage more players to take arena defense ego boosting seriously. Just like AR in it of itself was a bad idea.
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>>853145
>Exactly. Giving people something to look at leads to them intentionally making more cancerous teams just to get replays and makes arena even more ass cancer than it already is.
As the person who first posed the question, that is a pretty reasonable argument that I did not consider.
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>>853145
I want Arena replays for the opposite reason, I want to see what absolute retards are losing against my free win teams. I get them every single week and I have no idea how.
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>>853373
Post your "free win" teams
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>>853384
if these aren't "free win" enough then you shouldn't be taking 766s in the first place.
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>>853373
>Fuck off and missclick
>Lose 1 unit
>Surrender instantly
Honestly i don't think arena defenses are that interesting to watch
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>>853395
*Fuck up
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>>853390
You're trying. I'll give you that. But they're still not free win teams. Nanna specifically is still a huge threat and you made her so tanky you're unlikely to 1 shot her like you can her base kit. When they think it's a free win people let their guard down. I can easily see that Nanna being an issue because she's a free kill in normal gameplay. The water team is definitely weaker but Caeda is still a threat and Rhea is still fat as fuck. Someone running a team that's mostly blue could have trouble.
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>>853395
>Arena
>Fuck off
You say it's a typo yet this doesn't sound too far off from the typical Arena experience.
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>>853390
Yeah like anon have said depending on team set-up these can be non-free wins. Rhea tanky (against blues), Corrin a Cav unit that can snipe a weak unit, Hinoka rapes blue units, Caeda (pic related), and etc.
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>>853476
>that image
Suddenly I'm glad I was on hiatus when baby Caeda debuted.
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>>853481
Truthfully I never once had an issue fighting Young Caeda because I always had a mage( with Hardy bearing) or dragon on my team who had defenses to easily tank a hit even if she was in vantage range.
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>>853482
It's less about how young Caeda is the prototype for legendary Caeda and more about how I was glad I never had to see that image up until today.
But now I can never forget it. What has been seen cannot be unseen.
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>>853456
Sothis:Yes indeed. You keep giving me quite the stare and my "father" doesn't approve. Your gaze gives me the heebee jeebees.
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>>853485
Damn, sorry Anon for potentially traumatizing you with the crude art.
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>>853488
It's not the art either, I'll just never be able to look at any child units without thinking of them using owo/uwu 'cutesy' speak.
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>>853490
Good thing I cropped it, the full comic strip had more of that kind of speech and would probably would of made the situation worse.
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Would Windsweep be good on Ascended Ishtar? You'd get safe engagement against physical units in the event that her two strikes aren't enough
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>>853551
Some people run it on Ninja FCorrin and Ninja Lyn, so I guess she can do it too.
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>>853476
>Caeda (pic related)
Caeda doesn't have DC.
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>>853496
Now I'm morbidly curious, post the rest. I'll take responsibility for wanting to gouge my own eyes out afterwards.
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>>853390
Jesus fuck that Nanna is beefy
I can see people losing a unit to her and just surrendering because thats how Arena works
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>>853487
Fallen Sothis when?!
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>>853695
Sorry fell asleep here is the rest.
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>>853476
This made me think about how characters with counter skills would counter attack somewhat realistically. Like ranged units would aim closer dragons would expel more breath I guess but melee units would throw their weapons but that's not too practical in most cases but what about beast units they use their claws and fangs so how would they counter attack immediately if they were attacked by someone far away?
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>>853667
The point was getting retaliated back by vantage not having DC. So pic not entirely true but still related.
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>>853857
based oliver
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>>853859
Always assumed DC acted similar to how they showed savage blow worked in this comic. Special are the weapons with innate DC on them or known to have DC in their base game such as creator sword, bolt weapons, light brand, and etc. In which they have a magical reason to extend their range.
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>>853857
Kinda funny actually kek
>>853859
Some DC weapons are magical in nature as another anon pointed out, like Xander's Siegfried can shoot a laser, Ryoma's Raijinto summons lightning, and the holy swords of Tellius can fire off magical shockwaves
The spears and axes, I assume they throw
For Beasts, that's a good question, I would say that having DC just gives them the urge to immediately run up and smack/slash/claw/whatever just attacked them, but that might not work if say, it was a flier attacking the unit from across a mountain or something
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>>853895
edelgard can canonically throw rocks at you from across the map i guess. idk about caeneghis
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>>853913
Maybe Caineghis just roars at his foes really, really loudly
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>>853859
My dumb head canon with my Distant Counter Vantage Keaton is that he's in vantage range pulls a Mario 64 speed run Backwards Long Jump and launches himself backwards hitting people with his butt. I know it's not realistic but I find humor in it.
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>>853960
I assumed Keaton just rushed down the enemies in a battle rage before they are able to pull off their ranged attack when he has DC + vantage. Wish beasts got Christmas alts so this can occur (pic).
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>>853960
I'm gonna be thinking about that too now lol
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>>853965
oh man, i'd love a selkie + velouria duo too
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>>853972
That'd be my second choice if not Keaton + Velouria
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>>853965
That would be the reasonable assumption but when Keaton's damaged art is this I can't help but think that. Also that art is adorable!
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>>853928
That's a skill in RD iirc
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Is it better to wait or should I dump all my axes now?
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>>854056
if you want to maximize rewards across all three rounds you can dump a certain amount but not all
the rewards for rokkr aren't that great though so you don't need to autism it in which case you can dump them all just so you don't have to worry about the mode
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>>854056
I usually start off each round by doing 4 200k runs so 3 axes. Then play around stamina until the last few hours and decide there if I want to spend more for a better rank.
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>>854056
If you're awake around reset and can do battles quickly, it's better to wait and spend just enough to snipe 3rd place.
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I am PRAYING to a god she doesn't habeeb in that her refine is Bector tier.
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>>854729
Why far save? She doesn't have enough effects and she dies to Duo Chrom
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>>854737
VChrom isn't that big of a concern for me on Fire season, I'm used to kiting LChrom on Water. I mainly need her to cover Ninja Corrins.
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>>854737
what doesn't die to fag chrom? Is it literally just Bector?
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I always just auto rokkr whenever it appears but this time i kinda want to do it for real. Real meaning doing 150k dmg and getting the accessories.
But what type of team should i use? Im thinking a dps who can quad supported by 3 dancers. Anything else i should bring?
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>>854749
Bector, Idunn, some other ones like L!Tiki if they run Svalin
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>>854757
My strat is just Ninja lyn with guard, sol, and breath of life, and three dancers who aren't made of tissue paper.
My ninja lyn is merged, but it should still be doable with a one-of, given that I generally hit max score by turn 6. If you are relatively newer and don't have ninja lyn, you should be able to do the same thing with ninja corrin.
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>>854770
Thanks. I was thinking ninja lyn too. Mine is a +1 with +spd. Good tip with the guard skill.
Im not new, i think ive been playing since pretty much the start. Im just very casual. Im one of the nowi bros. ;) i pretty much just do pve and summon.
Im thinking ill use the team in my pic and maybe leanne for the healing passive?
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>>854780
Fair enough.
In any case, the extra healing from leanne isn't super necessary between having sol or noontime, and the breath of life, but if you don't have any other healers who bring in some kind of utility, I suppose you may as well.
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>>854782
I have loads of healers. But i cant bring a healer if i want 3 dancers. Leanne is my only dancer with passive healing.
If leannes healing isnt necessary i think my last spot could be bow plumeria instead.
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>>854788
Sorry, I meant dancer not healer. Mostly I'm saying you should be fine either way.
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Would a +2 brave hector be a reasonable thing to invest a far save in, over simply using an unmerged Afjorm? She is really good for dealing with magical threats, but completely eats shit to duo chrom, which is one of the most common ranged threats at the moment, meanwhile brave hector has a really good matchup against duo chrom.
Sadly, far save is still at a premium, so it is hard to pull the trigger until I know it is really worth it, especially on a unit who I will probably never +10.
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>>854807
I'd say yes, if you have far save from something other than that AFjorm. Bector is great, but he basically counters a completely different set of threats than AFjorm.
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>>854748
why not just run warding breath
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>>854876
It's on another unit on the same team but now that you mention it, it would probably be better swapping them.
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I pulled 2 Fjorm so I'm going to go FULL RETARD.
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>>854976
I pulled a third one. Witness my power.
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>>854807
Even at low merges Brave Hector is still pretty damn good. It's hard to beat
>follow up denial and a guaranteed follow up
>removing his fucking armour weakness for some reason
>debuff neutralization
That second part is especially key since that's what allows him to stand up to Duo Chrom I'm pretty sure, as well as anyone else trying to use armour effectiveness to their advantage
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>>855057
Armor weakness negation is 90% of what makes Bector (and AIdunn) a pain in the ass. It also makes it impossible to "counter" him effectively, since you can't just throw an armor slaying unit at him.
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>>855054
I'm not seeing a floret on her. I thought you loved her.
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>>855167
Idunn still has the dragon effectiveness. Would Deirdre work as a safe counter for her? I could give her mirror impact and nfu for that.
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>>855267
I'd assume so, don't have a Hardy Fighter Far Save AIdunn to test it.
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>>854976
give me greens to pull on aaaaaa
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>>855200
I did it after posting.
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is this game worth starting
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>>855587
Only if you don't invest in it too much. High level arena and AR is unfun cancer even if you whale.
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>>855587
No. If you love FE enough to want to play it, you wouldn't need to ask.
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>>855609
Looks like FE6 but they got bride alts last year so I'm not sure.
On the hand, the freebies have been lame grooms for 2 years now so we should get a cute bride for once, though I doubt they'll top Louise.
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>>855609
Sophia bros eating good tonight. Congrats.
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>>855609
>Palla& Green haired Silesse: the banner
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>>855587
no
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>>855587
Honestly, I don't see why not, but you gotta have at least a passive interest in Fire Emblem.
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>>855609
I feel like they're gonna put all of Roy's A support wifes into this one.
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I usually completely skip the wedding banner. They just feel extra boring. Anyone else?
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>>855694
I always hated bridal banners, except for the very first one, everything afterwards was worse than the last, the free units even more so (Fucking Zelot)
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please no cunny bride. i want to save orbs.
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>>855609
Larum?
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>>855587
Only if you like FE
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>>855587
no
like another anon said if you liked FE you wouldn't be asking, and this game is only worth it if you like FE
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>>855758
I wish we got cunny brides.
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do i do it?
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>>855609
congrats to all 12 larum fans
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>>855798
Do it. Join the club N O W!
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>>855813
Done.
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Crazy stats
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>>855840
Based
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>>855609
>more elibe brides
for fucks sake can they try to be original with the alts for once
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>>855875
They can't
Palla will be in
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>>855875
not until you get more original with your complaints
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>>855877
paired with Fiora, no doubt
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>>855886
Need to be with someone with green hair
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>>855840
Welcome to the club friend!
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>>855886
sounds so predictable that it might be possible
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>>855890
Syrene then
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Is trailer tomorrow or thursday?
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>>855924
It's always the day after the silhouettes
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>>855609
This is going to be as much of a disappointment as last year, isn't it?
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>>855936
Yeah
Est's turn will be worse
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>>855936
bridal banners have been a disappointment ever since normies got triggered over bridal sanaki
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>>855980
Aversa never reappear in a forging bond
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>>855994
What happend with Aversa?
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>>856075
Some people was trigerred because Aversa and Loki compete for (you) in their forging bond.
The last time someone speak to (you) in a fb after this one was for the Flayn one.
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>>856092
Absolutely retarded. That kind of behavior is expected from sluts like those two. Though if there is one thing you can count on it's that the kind of people that got triggered over Nowi and Sanaki will complain over the stupidest most trivial shit.
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Took a year but she's finally done. The family is complete once more.
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>>854788
I got 240k something with this team btw.
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How many skills does I$I$ put in every new weapon? 4? 5?
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Really loving W!Ephraim for my Rokkr team. I usually use Galeforce B!Ephraim but I was having trouble with Rokkr B!Ephraim's A skill, I underestimated the power of quading
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>>856199
Congrats anon
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>>856428
depends on the weapon but for modern phys weapons around that number
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>>856199
Congrats bro, it's always a great feeling when you finish a project.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLkfbmK7U-Q
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>>856797
Holy shit, how boring but at least Lilinanon will be happy. Also, Larum will be the TT reward.
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>>856797
>Harmonized Roy and Eliwood, father and son
>is a super axe cav with all the effectiveness
>also a new C skill
That C skill will probably be on Legendary Roy's remix huh
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>>856797
Bleh. At least Larum is the TT. Hopefully she'll be at least somewhat good.
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>>856812
Pretty sure she's literally the second Binding Blade dancer (assuming she can still Dance, I don't see why she wouldn't) so I will welcome her, especially considering her regular self is just DT food
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>>856797
>eliweed is the backpack
laaaaaaaaaaaame
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>>856797
Really boring banner. An easy skip. The harmonic skill name seems oddly named though.
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>>856797
that's some very nice cecilia art
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>>856797
Come to think of it, we do have Bridal Ninian from way long ago, figures Groom Wood would make an appearance at some point, albeit as Roy's support
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>>856821
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>>856825
that wasn't where i was focusing but you do you
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>>856797
>Cecilia
My dick.
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>>856826
Lick
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>>856797
Thank god its an ezskip
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>>856797
>Roy's entire harem
LMFAO
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>>856797
>>856834
Poor Sue
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>>856797
>Larum isn't in the list
>that means she's the freebie
Holy based, Batman.
Also it seems 4* seasonals have started to go up in quality. First we had Lull on Ilyana, now Rally+ and Ruse on Cecilia.
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>>856811
So running Y!/summer Caeda, Guinivere, any Micaiah, and Brave Eliwood/bridal Roy will give you virtually effectiveness against all units in the game but dagger units and colored bows.
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>>856849
And staves.
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>>856819
>Treachery
SUGEE
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>>856865
Sadly can't happen since it is a harmonic skill working with The Binding/Blazing Blade games.
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>>856870
Fug
Oh well, Hugh could use it pretty well
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>>856797
>All Elibe, AGAIN
At the very least, they put in the characters people actually give a fuck about.
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>>856873
Just throw chicken on your team and she'll help with the buffs +5 all stats.
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>>856797
As much as I like Cecilia, her statline is gonna be the same usual garbage as Summer Mercedes, which means I'll have to skip. At least she's the demote though
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>>856797
Cute Roy and Eliwood harmonic. Definitely rolling for a copy
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>>856885
>red tome cav
Yeah, I'm sorry anon, but there is very little chance of her being usable. Generic red tomes are absolute garbage. The best generic red tome is still probably the blade tome. And blade tomes are trash these days.
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>>856894
don't we have vulture tomes now
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>>856896
oh fuck, I totally forgot that redvulture just entered the fucking grail pool
alright, that is probably fine
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>>856797
I'm so happy bros, Lilina is so beautiful. I don't even have the words.
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>>856797
Another ez skip
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>>856797
>Still Water 4
I was hoping a skill like this would show up. The def version will be even better.
>bridal Cecilia
Holy shit. And she's red too. Gotta get a few merges at least.
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>>856920
>Holy shit. And she's red too
Color sharing is rough though, good luck anon.
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>>856923
to be fair she's sharing with Sophia while also being a demote, for anyone rolling for Cecilia it's all gravy.
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>>856924
True enough
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>>856923
It'll be alright, being the 4* focus should help. Only downside is I have no units that want Atk/Res Hold if I get flooded with Sophias. Wish she came with a Flow skill instead.
Good luck with Lilina. Finally gets to cover the weapon triangle.
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>>856938
>Good luck with Lilina
Thanks bro!
>Finally gets to cover the weapon triangle
You have no idea how happy I am for this. Finally I'll be able to bully sword users more efficiently!
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>>856923
But color share is good.
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>>856966
No it's not!
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>>856979
Why do you think color sharing is bad?
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>>856984
Because I wanted Ayra when she first came out and got 3 Eldigans instead.
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>>856984
Because I wanted to +10 Mia's budding breasts and instead got 11 Ike and his retarded sister.
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>>856986
Look, I understand that was an awful gambling session for you way back in 2017... But, you summoned three copies of a five star focus instead of three red 3/4 star units because of shared red focus. Units are generated at the start of a circle, not when you click the red orb, so at worst, all Eldigan did was reset the 5 star focus rate. Hell, Eldigan aged well, in both prf weapon and art. And at the end of the day, it's gambling. If Ayra was the only red focus instead of sharing with Eldigan and you summoned three 3/4 star units instead of three copies of Eldigan... Would you still say color sharing is awful or will you come to the conclusion that gambling is awful and nothing is guaranteed when gambli-, I mean, "summoning?"
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>>857008
tl;dr
Colorsharing SUCKS
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>>856986
You don't seem to understand how the summoning system works.
Simply put, in that exact same situation where they weren't color sharing, you simply would have received no ayras just the same.
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>>857016
Color sharing is good and I'm sorry you have zero reading comprehension, lad.
>>857019
Exactly.
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Larum has the Atk/Def Bonus Doubler lance, Atk Cantrip, and Guidance, and is a lance flier
Seals are Chill Atk/Def and Def/Res Form
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>free FE6 dancer
That's actually pretty nice
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>>857031
>>857035
Free flying dancer is good, I will happily take it.
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>>857031
>>857035
Ma gud damn eyes. Couldn't you have dark mode enabled? Like so.
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>>856797
fucking knew it, all elibe
at least it's a nice theming idea, I'll probs roll for Cecilia
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>>857031
Larum is kind of a cutie
Too bas my grails are being used on someone else for the moment
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>>857035
>Def/Res Form seal
I would prefer Spd/Def Form, but Def/Res is useful for save armours so I'll take it.
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Ngl, the s skills this tt are kinda disappointing.
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>>857039
>FE6 dancer
Hadn't considered that. I mean, I have OG Lalum, but it's good to have options.

>>857286
Them introducing spd/res Chill was a terrible sign. We'll have to run through all the dual chills now.
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>>856819
I think it's supposed to be a counterpart to Dominance, at least functionally, since that deals true damage based on foe debuffs, this seems to be true damage based on your own buffs
Although Dominance at least kinda makes sense, you're dominating the foe by turning their buffs against them
I'm not sure what's so treacherous about powering up with your own buffs
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Gay
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>>857376
Honestly the skill effects names should be swapped. Dominance makes more since if you are overwhelming the opponent (with unit's own stats) and treacherous would make more since if you are turning the opponents stats against them (it'd make more since if it had Cleaner's effect though).
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>>857385
christ
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>>857398
>since
You're looking for "sense". They sound the same, but are spelled different.

And yeah, "Treachery" would be perfect for the Cleaner-type effect. I find it weird they didn't name it "Blade" or something like that. It's on units from Binding Blade and Blazing Blade, and we've had the Blade tomes for years. They're even "ブレード" (Blade) tomes in JP.
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>>857462
>You're looking for "sense".
Whoops, I know the difference just didn't proofread and catch it.

>I find it weird they didn't name it "Blade" or something like that.
I'd name the skill "Hone/Hone Blade" like to sharpen a blade and I think it would make sense since a sharpened blade should do more damage hence the extra attack buff from blue buffs.
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>>857481
>Hone Blade
Yeah, it'd even work since "Hone" is used for the atk and spd blue buffs. Maybe the skill name makes more sense in Japanese.
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>>857462
Blame treehouse, they're ruining skill and weapon name with their bullshit.
Titania weapon in jp is Mercenary Battle's Axe but we got Draconix poleax
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>>857821
Huh, they actually are. The JP name is 強化ダメージ, which is "strengthening" (強化 means something like that, and it's the term they use for blue buffs) and "damage" (ダメージ). So "Bonus Damage" or "Bonus-boosted Damage" would be both more clear to English players and more accurate to the Japanese. Fucking hell.
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>>857821
They also messed up when they decided to name Shigure's weapon Harmonic Lance when it's part of the Wo Dao family.
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>>857821
Further proof that localisation is a cancer that needs to be excised from the industry.
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Dont think ive ever even read the name of a weapon.
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Garon has come a long way since his refine.
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>>858516
What was his refine again?
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>>858552
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>>858552
>>858556
In summary
>Guard
>Spendthrift effect +10 atk for unit and -10 atk enemy
>Turn 3 and 4 life sap/bolt 13 damage against enemies within 4 spaces.
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>>858556
So a +10 Atk -10 Atk swing, Guard, and a healing Menace effect on turns 3 and 4, and dragon weakness neutralization on top of that. Pretty neat effects
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Laevatein a cute.
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>>858560
The spendthrift effect really hides how bulky Garon can be and also the life steal allows him to make riskier plays.
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Now that we have Smoke 4 skills, what do you guys think Ploy 4 skills could do? Maybe just double up on stats and extend the range (kind of like Arvis)? Remove the stat check? Inflict another status effect?
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>>858570
make the stat check be more bearable for one
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>>858570
Increase debuff to -7, extend range to 3 columns and rows centered on unit, and inflict a debuff depending on ploy type (atk=guard, spd=prevent enemy follow-up, and etc.).
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Keep neutral Gustav or +Res -HP Gustav? I plan to fodder one off.
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>>857028
>Atk/Def Bonus Doubler lance
Better than Moon Gradivus at this point
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>Got another copy out of today's free roll
Oh shit
So close yet so far
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>>858619
+res -HP is apparently effective neutral magical bulk but it also impedes your physical bulk due to having less HP. Go for neutral.
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Don't forget to fire your arrows.
Only about 25 minutes left!
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go back to your shit general schizo
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>>858928
It was actually 1 and a half hours from the time you posted, not half an hour.
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>>858928
Loki please
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>>858997
>three dancers
>one kinda strong red mage
What is the point
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>>859005
>one nuke 3 dancers
Easy HoF clear
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>>859006
Okay that's a good way of looking at it actually
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>>859016
>Lilina: 39-/44/22/16-/42+
>Sophia: 38-/40+/19/36+/34-
>Cecilia: 40-/41+/25+/18/38+, Ruse at 4*
>Roy: 39-/38/42-/30-/25+
>Larum: 38+/32/40+/26-/31, Cantrip at 4*
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>>859006
I think you mean
>1 nuke
>3 mediocre units because the game fucking refuses to give dancers the dance skill
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>>859016
>prfless red tome cav with 25 speed
this cake is rotten
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>>858997
The HoF is fucking stacked.
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>no one talking about the new p2w castle skin
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>>859019
>Roy: 39-/38/42-/30-/25+
And there it is. He looked like he was going to be great, so they had to fuck him up somehow. Roy just can't catch a break.
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>>859054
>three (3) fucking superbanes
>only superboon is in res
lol
lmao even
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>>859054
>Roy just can't catch a break.
Somebody on the DEV team really hates Roy, huh.
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>>859051
because 2 formas and less grinding for 3 months is unironically nothing to cry about. at the end of the day you're paying for the skin and thats it
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I hate Roy so much, he has all the best girls as options, remake where the self insert cucks him when
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>>859096
cry about it
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>>859016
>make a hot bridal alt for a cake
>give her the same spd as her base version
>take away 4 def so she has no chance of ranged tanking
T-Thanks IS. I wasn't expecting her to be great but damn they could've made her better.
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>>859093
this is exactly how slippery slopes function, people see the extremely tame version and keep going "it's literally nothing" as they slowly vamp up the level of p2w
it happened with feh pass as they kept adding more and more perks and it's going to happen again
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>>859093
>2 formas
???
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>>859122
You get 2 chances to buy formas instead of 1 each month. Still pretty useless but its good for the people who like formas i guess
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>>859116
No them, but that castle skin isn't p2w. No difference in battle between a unit with 0 SP and one with 9999 SP, and it doesn't help with summoning either. It's just another instance of IS selling QoL features instead of improving the game for everyone.
>this is exactly how slippery slopes function
That's not what the slippery slope fallacy is. It's closer to what you're doing, seeing a minor change and asserting it'll spiral out of control. FEH pass doesn't even work as a parallel, since it started as both p2w (stat boosts come with the resplendent, special FEH pass quests) and QoL stuff (Mila's turnwheel, auto-start). The castle is just QoL.
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>>859129
Man, I've been buying formas with celestial stones when I can and at this rate I'm never going to run out of formas. Why the fuck would somebody buy them for $40.
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>>859132
This. FEH is already extremely p2w enough in other ways, but fucking >>>SP is as inconsequential as it gets
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>>859139
You get the orbs at a discounted rate, brainletbro. The pack would be worth buying even if it was just 60 orbs for $30 without any soul at all
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>>859146
>buying orbs
Thanks for paying for the game for everybody, retardbro.
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>>859153
>he didn't even know that the forma packs came with orbs
holy retard oh no no no lmao
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>>859139
I personally just buy them for the orbs when theres a banner i want to roll on so its not a bad deal i guess
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Nice
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>>859195
Congrats, anon
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>>859195
>merging into the +spd copy
Congrats, tell me how it works out
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>rolling for the marquess of racism and his harem because most of them look cool to have as a one-of
>Get everything I want pretty quickly
>pretty close to sparking though, may as well see what is on offer on feh pass at the moment
>>>>>cuck girl
>check out what's available next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gaius
You just lost an easy $10, ISIS.
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>>859206
Not him, but honestly I don't think it is a bad choice
We have gotten to the point in powercreep where even minmaxed units with low speed are starting to have high 20s, low 30s in speed. It may actually win her some more matchups than other things would.
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>>859206
Spd is a very malleable stat, really.
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>>858997
Damn
I was hoping for Julius or Arden, I have so many grails but so little fodder...
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>>859212
You could always just activate it near the banners end at the beginning of next month to dodge Gaius.
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>>859225
true, maybe they will have something better by then.
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>>859224
They're never going to put the actually good f2p units on HoF now that you can get plugplugs for free.
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>>859215
I guess, but those same min-maxed, low speed units usually have DR or follow-up prevention, and ranged cavs can't inherit Flow skills. Not like +atk or +res would salvage her though.

>>859219
I agree, but that's a unit with 36 base spd. That's very easy to work with. Cecilia only has 25 base spd, and anon's Cecilia is only getting 34 after max merges, max flowers, and a spd boon. Can't even reach S!Camilla's base spd. Rough.
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>>859228
I hope this means we can get Galle on the next FE6 HoF at least. I've wanted to build him for the longest time but I just can't justify giving good skills to such a subpar unit.
He'd also look so cool with the blue border and stars.
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Do you guys really not have a use for formas? It's pretty fun to use them to mess with units you wouldn't normally build, and most modes don't require an extremely high merge unit. I've actually started playing guessing games with formas, choosing to pick up ones who haven't been refined yet and seeing if they'll end up doing well later on.
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>>859252
Well at the very least I plan on getting Julia this time around. Her angry version is the only one I'm missing.
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>lalum tummy in a brides dress
banner redeemed, doubly as she's free

>got 2 Cecilia, both +def
t-thanks
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>>859252
They're rare resources, I'd rather save them in the unlikely event IS releases a HoF full of units I like.
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>>859019
Kek what the fuck are those superbanes on Roy
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>>859108
Fuck IS
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>>859303
>f units I like.
What are the chances they release four units you like from the same game?
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>>859309
Almost nonexistent, but I only have three buttplugs anyway. I feel like it could only happen for a Binding Blade or Fates HoF.
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>can't auto-TT because Roy is built to counter F!Edel
Great, what now
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>>859016
>Slow
>Prfless
>Red mage
Just lacked the infantry part, atleast she's cute
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Thank you, Catria from Binding Blade.
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>>857002
>got only 4 Ikes
I was lucky, at least loli Mist is cute
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>>859252
it is one of those weird cases where it is rare enough for me to not want to use them on anything that feels suboptimal, so things that I wouldn't be +10ing for example.
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>>859309
Elise, please stop bullying your older sister.
It isn't proper to bully retards.
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>>859338
Looks like it is time to git gud, scrub.
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>>859371
Catria is my favourite Binding Blade character, just like how Dorothea is my favourite Genealogy character.
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Fun
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>>859309
don't know what surprised me more, being reminded of that one artist who drew nearly all the girls being put in submission holds, or the fact that there's multiple artists drawing this
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Oh man I'm so fucking tempted to paypig to finish her
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>>859461
Do you actually love Fjorm to do such a thing?
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>>859252
I used one for Halloween Myrrh as one of my Near Save tanks, and now I have one that I'm not sure what to use on.
I'll probably use it if there's a unit that I can get a bunch of fun skills that I never get to try out normally, exactly like the Save skills.
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>>859534
She's grown on me that's for sure, also, does anybody have the page to calculate orb averages
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Isn't Bride Lilina just a sidegrade from Legendary Lilina? Bride can hit a bit harder but Legendary has Hardy Bearing in her weapon.
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>>859556
Sidegrade, also not season locked. They basically both do the same job of AoE nuking
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Finally get Laegjarn! I officially have all Camilla Ascended! Last thing I need is S/D Near Trace to finish Vanilla Camilla. I'm a very happy boy.
>>859548
This is the one I use:
https://fullyconcentrated.net/fehstatsim/
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>>858570
I'm still waiting for them to make Boost skills actually worth using. They set a precedent for them already with Virion's refine at least:
>Boost 4
>Grants two stats +7 if unit's max HP > opponent's current HP
Dual phase big stats with the only downside being that you need a high max HP.
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>>859252
>t's pretty fun to use them to mess with units you wouldn't normally build
Same here but in reality most of the formas I get go unused and end up just sitting in my barracks looking pretty. The only forma that i've actually used is Finn and maybe naesala and adrift m!corrin when I really need it. This HoF Julia will probably end up the same since I'm only really getting her because I'm 2 merges away from finishing her and giving her a somewhat useful build would be nice
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>>859702
If anything that's a decent equalizer for early units, a lot of them have a lot of HP for no real reason
Arden will love Boost 4 for Att/Def
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>>859702
>max HP +5
>+5~7 to two stats in combat if unit's max HP > foe's current HP
>inheritable to all units
There's your BiS PoL A slot.
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Who's gonna be the new summer units?
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>>860218
Annette, Felix, Flayn&Seteth, Petra
TT Mercedes's brother
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why would they repeat a game
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>>860238
because 3H deserve it, IS will not stop at 2.
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>>860238
They did that yesterday
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>>860238
Repeat a game how?
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>can't auto tt with fdel because eliroy kills her and is a cav
I don't have pass anymore either so unlike with Chrobin's TT this is gonna be a huge pain
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>Lv1 to Lv12 now gives me enough SP to max out all of dead Gustav's skills except Catch 4 and Smoke 4
I'm going to keep buying these 5 month skins in order to retain 5x SP forever.
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>>860263
can't you use like... mystic boost chrobin
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>>860265
Don't fall for IS's tricks.
Use your stamina potions, bro
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>Fallen Julia forma
Is it worth it? Her base kit seems fine as is. I have a manual and I don't know if I should just merge or fodder. Anyone want panic smoke?
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Summoner Duels S worth participating in if I lack a bonus unit or should I play one game and skip this season?
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>>860278
I just surrender and fight cpus. May as well.
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>>860297
Just do the kiran bots. It's what I do all the time.
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Old banners should be sparkable come on ISIS
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>>860311
I haven't fought bots beyond the first matches, do I have to lower my tier or something
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>>860629
Bots stop appearing once you hit I think Gold, penismaster covered it in a SD video iirc
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>>860634
Guess I'm just unlucky since I'm a beginner and get matched with turbo whales
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>>860635
Even in tiers when you can face bots, they don't appear in normal matches unless matchmaking takes too long. What anon was referring to was the fact that if you lose a match below Gold, you face a Kiran bot in the match immediately following that. The idea is to forfeit the real matches and win the bot matches for a slow and gradual but guaranteed increase in tier.
As mentioned before though, that strat stops working once you hit around Gold tier.
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>>860289
Her C skill could be better (ideally Atk/Res Menace) but Panic Smoke is also a key part of how I use her in Summoner Duels, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Get her if you want her, like any forma.
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>>860620
they probably see it as keeping Sacred Stones or whatever they're called as more scarce
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>>860939
Then don't hamd those out on revivals
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Should i finish my 5* on the fallen banner or stop
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>>861243
Stop unless you need fodder
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I forgot but do they rerun the fallen banners? I'm at +7 Edelgard might as well try to finish her and join the cancer
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>>861308
The rerun for that is over and FEdel has been on banners mutiple times already.
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>>861308
Her rerun already happened
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>>861243
Which unit are you merging?
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>>861243
What are you rolling for, how many orbs you got, why do you want to finish them, and is there anything else you are looking forward to?
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Last day. Get or no?
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>>861439
How many buttplugs do you have?
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>>861440
dos (soon to be tres)
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>>861443
If you have that many stored up and you want they unit, you should probably just go for it. If you never use them at all it is just a waste of the effort required to get them.
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>>861445
Ok if I regret this later I'm blaming you anonymous
jk
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>>861383
None but i want the smoke fodder
>>861388
27 right now
Haven't done the new paralogue and just started TT
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I just forma units I like
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>>861671
I wish I got Micaiah, she's quite good now
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>>861678
Same, I had held out thinking the HoF would have better units after Micaiah appeared only for us to hit a dry spell of good units. I still hate myself especially since my Micaiah is a +5 merge too and now I'm holding onto 3 butt plugs.
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Can you guys think of any instance where a unit has gained a slaying effect post refine? I'm wondering if a precedent exists for that kind of thing.
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>>861863
Only one that comes to mind is Ayra, but there might be more.
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>>861863
Leif, Ike and BK/Zelgius did.
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>>861863
Alondite and Ragnell refines gave them slaying effect
I can't remember any others though
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>>861863
Ayra, Leif, Ike, Black Knight/Zelgius
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Still mad that Mia didn't get a slaying refine
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>>861943
At least she has alts
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>>861946
yeah but her base art is perfect
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>>861863
so swords only, looks like
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>>861863
>>862070
There's also Merric.
Thought Ishtar and Mjolnir too, but apparently that was in its base form.
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>>861883
>>861885
>>861889
>>861890
>>862096
So there is some precedent, but it's rare. Not only that but only one unit really got a -good- refine in addition to their slaying weapon.
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>>862399
All of them are not literal who too
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I hate Summoner Duels so fucking much.
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>>862401
To be fair, literal whos just didn't get prfs early on. But quite a few got slaying prfs afterwards, like Shanna, Nina, or Nephenee.
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>>862424
Nina has slaying?
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>>862427
Yep. Her prf is Slaying and Shining bow combined.
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>>862423
Take the kiranpill bro
Just surrender immediately and fight kirans.
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>doing SD-S matches at the last second
>lose to a beefed up F!Edelgard
>+10, L!Eliwood buffs, Medeus En Garde, F!Lilith smiting, all that fun stuff
>Svalinn Shield so V!Chrom couldn't scratch her
>lose hard but I just want the bots so whatever
>next match
>F!Edelgard, L!Eliwood, Lilith
>but a ton of other cancer on the other teams
>don't veto her
>lose in the same way, with the same team
Okay the first one was horseshit but the second one was my own fault. I admit I'm a filthy fucking casual
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Galeforce Larum sounds like a fun project
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Where waiting till the end of the month Legendary banner before making a new thread, right?
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>>862725
No
We need to stop with "Did you summon on x banner?" OP
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>>862726
>>862726
>Did you summon on x banner?
Summoning for new shiny units is what Fire Emblem Heroes is all about.
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>>862729
I stick to my favorites who are not allowed to get alt or be good.
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>>862731
>my favorites who are not allowed to get alts or be good.
Which unit(s) might that be anon?
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>>862733
Athena
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>>862736
Oh my...
That is a very obscure favorite you have there. I really hope Intelligent Systems graces her with a bomb ass Resplendent outfit just for you this year.
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>>862744
I doubt it.
Some heroes are better treated than others because of popularity.
Latter=better but it doesn't apply to who.
I don't know what is Neimi's weapon but she is inferior to Igrene and has shit SI.
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>>862767
>what is Neimi's weapon but she is inferior to Igrene and has shit SI.

Igrene was a pretty strong unit for her time with an excellent niche and color but Far Save units and Duo Chrom certainly knocked her down a peg. Neimi on the other hand has a pseudo supportive weapon (ATK SPD Gap 3.5). Which in my opinion should make her age much better in the grand scheme of things.
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>>862782
She has no fodder though.
The last Sacred Stone banner was garbage for SI.
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>>862957



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