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Discuss mobile games of the Tales of series.

Tales of the Rays
>https://tales-of-the-rays.fandom.com/wiki/Tales_of_the_Rays_Wiki
Tales of Asteria
>https://suyo.be/asteria/
Tales of Luminaria
>https://luminaria-en.tales-ch.jp/
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soon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwPkJ4ov5mk
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>>800044
Hope he gets the same treatment as Alphen and he comes with a SMA too.
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>>800044
Where did this come from?
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>>800825
https://youtu.be/6VgtCsi5Fc0?t=4687
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>>800861
I see thanks. Im expecting them to release in July, since that would be Cresty's anniversary month.
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>>800461
>They actually did replace all the loading screen comics with the polywiggle edits ingame
>but no playable one
c'mon, just make it a Turtlez shop character, they already spent the 10 minutes of dev time to animated an MA for it, and shop characters only get 4 artes
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Any recommended story quest for grinding? One that maybe has more than 4 enemies. I activated some reruns and i'v got a macro set to use MAs for the "use MAs x times".
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>>801213
Grinding what? Just play the daily quests since you are guaranteed to start with 100% MA gauge.
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>>801479
When you activate a rerun with a ticket (or when they rerun anything) theres always missions like "Use an MA a dozen times" "Do orders" and "Perform JUST in combos" to get the event currency. The place to grind would be the no stamina story missions where fights are grouped together in a room or ones that have alot of fights, dailies are fine but you can only do it 3 times a day and one 1 fight.

>>801213
I use Arc 1 chapter 8-28 has 5 fights. Chapter 14-8 has 4 fights in a straight line. Most final chapters are 1 room with all the spawns huddled together.
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>>799971
😭
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>>801213
For getting JUSTs, I use arc 1, chapter 1, quest 3. It's 3 piss-easy battles with no exploration, so I just take Natalia and have the macro spam Heal/Cavalry.
For using MAs, arc 2, chapter 8 or 10 (it's the one with a tower thumbnail, and when you open it Yuri's portrait pops up), quest 13. It's a green anima quest, just one battle where your entire party starts out with their MG gauge filled, so you can just spam MAs there.
I think there's an arc 3 one that serves the same purpose. I think quest 3 of Milla's chapter?
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>entire year later
>e*naschizo is still spamming dead tales of threads
You are a legitimate schizo. The sooner you end your life the better desu
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>>802337
I'll check out that arc 2 chapter. If you have the really cheap seasonal MAs (the ones that cost 60-70 mg, summer Ix/Milena/Sorey, music band Leon/Asbel), doing a chapter that has 4-5 fights lets me pop at least 8-9 MAs every repeat, more with spirit gears equipped.
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>>802379
Ill be gone in a flash (in seraphim years lmao) 😆
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>>801213
I normally try to get those done while doing my current event grind. Just-spam my way through normal mobs, then dump MAs on the boss.
But these boss events seem less ideal for that route, with just the single battle.

>>802550
There's also those gauge boost tower skills, if you aren't already using 'em.
Those and the cheap seasonals helped me a lot for some of those "MA x times" story missions.
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>>802550
Yeah, if you want to get super degenerate and have been playing for a while, run a team with Estelle/Sophie/Meredy/Reala and their seasonal MAs (Wedding, Halloween, Wedding, Halloween respectively). Can use a support version of one of them too if you want to go turbo; they keep refilling each other's MG and get you a ridiculous amount of MA usages in one quest.
Just make sure to equip their cheapest MA on their 1st slot, and their most expensive MA on the 2nd and auto slots. The MG refill works on a percentage basis, so you get more out of it the larger your MG bar is.
My bonus for the current event is pretty shitty so let me know if you want a support with any of these MAs, I can spare a friend slot
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>>802866
>have all 4 of those MAs
Sick, thanks for the team build.
Yeah feel free to add me, my bonus is low too, it usually is. Let me know what your username is so i can follow back later.
ID:607228582
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>>802337
>arc 2, chapter 8 or 10 (it's the one with a tower thumbnail, and when you open it Yuri's portrait pops up), quest 13
Did you remember the right one? The one with the tower and Yuri portrait is chapter 5, and doing fight 13 starts everyone off with 25% gauge.
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>>802980
I'm fucking brain damaged apparently, it's the 12th fight in the chapter you're talking about, I just checked it personally. It's a fight with a Behemoth.

>>802909
I tried to send it but it didn't work, says you're full. Since I always take a while to check 4chin, here's my ID, I can just follow you back now that I saw your username. I have a bridal Meredy up. (If the system takes a while to update, it might show a SG Lv5 Leon)
ID: 917743987
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>>803169
Ah didnt know that many people followed me, probably from the Rays anni event since my Ix was decent.
Added you, and if anyone else here feels like adding me, feel free.
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I did not know this game has a damage cap. Also new tower record for me, feels good
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2-5-12 for MA missions.
1-7-8 has lots of enemies and waves but nothing for rerun missions.
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Any tutorial how to install JP rays ??
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>>809051
Imagine
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>>808962
Android? Install QooApp and download through there. Download the APK for QooApp and install it on to your device.
Apple? Gonna need to make a JP itunes account on your computer.
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>>809051
These japanese mongs are fucking retarded.

It took Sophie 4 years to get the charge 5* and 5 years to get her 2nd. (Both being dogshit) Crappy Devs playing catch-up for somebody who should have had everything by the 3rd anniversary means nothing. Who did you really expect after Tear's? Not hard.
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April Dev Letter
>Feedback about the beta Best Heroes Tower season
>They saw all the Rita/Shirley/Grune spamming
>They are going to reflect on the large range artes spamming, they're not looking to nerf long ranged characters for the mode, but will do something to make people use different setups.
>Cheaters will be dealt with, they just couldnt do it as fast as they wanted.
>2 small version updates mainly for Best Heroes and misc fixes
>Update after May will be about responding to feedbacks and making improvements
>The changes to Spirit Gear don't have a release estimation anymore.
>New Developments.
They didn't talk about the Dhaos/Asbel raid or the Rays Anni Part 2 event for Nazar/Baldr/Mercuria/Kocis because the rest of the dev letter is answering questions about future updates, but its on the schedule (see pic related).

They decided to answer questions from fans about updates:
>Gintama and SAO rerun when?
Its not up to us, but we are trying. If a rerun happens, make sure to play it because it probably wont happen again.
>I want my friends with high point boosters to show up when selecting a friend!
Major changes to the friend system are hard to implement, but being able to sort them might not take that long. We're looking into it.
>When is the friend point banner getting overhauled, you mentioned it a long time ago?
Sorry. Still looking into it.
>Playable Elle when?
Not happening. We're looking into other ways to implement her, like making her an NPC to place in your lobby.
>If there is another voting for which event should get voice acting, can you include raid events? I want the Jade and Nebilim event with VO.
No plans on more voting polls, but if we see that people really like the Marcus Casino rerun with VO, we will consider it.
>Will we get new secret techniques that aren't Mirrage Artes mirrors?
No plans because we still have characters that only have 1 MA. We might add more 3* and 4* weapons at some point.
(continuing in next post)
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>>809706
>When are the Family Ties losers getting their xMAs?
After May. We are working on Liliths and Rimul right now.
>What are the qualifications for a character to become playable in Rays
Difficult questions, but as of now i can tell you that any character that has been in a battle/has battle capacity has a non-zero chance.
>How do you decide who shows up in the story and in events?
We really dont have a standard for this. It just depends on the characters personality.
>The frightful bond between Jade and Leon thats been mentioned in the story and skits, can we get a xMA for them?
I would like to see that, i might plan it.
>Playable Rollo please?
No. Maybe NPC for the lobby.
>Can Ix get a collab MA? He's the main character of Rays and doesnt have one.
I want this too, but i have no clue what collab character could partner with Ix. If you can think of someone, then tell us.
>Next few questions are just talking about story production, ideas behind MAs, and Ending MAs.
>Can you make the Oresoren trio playable?
No. Maybe. Kuppo is studying how to fight, so it might happen.
>Will you add the Crestoria characters? I saved 10000 diamonds for Vicious
They are on the way.
>I hope Rays continues for a long time.
Thank you. Like Asteria, i am doing my best so we can celebrate Rays' 6th and 7th anniversary.
>Playable Igtenos?
No plans right now, but it can happen. I would like to have a Swordians-only event
>What happened to being able to cancel Orders?
Cancelled. Figuring out a workaround.
>There are alot of characters that only have 1 MA, is there a bias?
Honestly, yes there is. If a character is not well-known, obscure, or isn't a main character, there chances of getting new gear is low. We know that there are people that enjoy even the smaller characters, and we do know that if we only focus on the popular characters, it doesn't mean the sales of the game will improve, so we are gradually working on everyone as best we can.
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>>809706
>Playable Elle when?
>Not happening. We're looking into other ways to implement her, like making her an NPC to place in your lobby.
Why do they say it's because she's not playable in her original game, when neither were Peony, Ion or Martel? What an odd reason.
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>>810193
The character has to have some kind of fighting background, they dont actually have to be seen fighting on screen. Peony was always a martial artist. Ion could fight since he is a clone of the Fon Master but couldnt because his health is incredibly fragile (which is why he is a glass cannon in Rays). And Martel is a spirit/element god.

Someone should write to them and suggest that characters like Elle could show up in someone elses MA as a support cameo. Like having her show up in a Ludger or Victor MA where she says something encouraging before they do their thing on the enemy. They could have her hold Rollo just to hit 2 bird with 1 stone. Claire can show up for Vague, Mieu for Luke or Tear, Chesters sister or Leons maid crush.
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>>810281
Isn't it implied that when she grows up she ends up taking jobs posted in the board as Ludger used to? That'd have to account for something.

I kind of miss Crestoria now. Making Mieu playable was funny, and surely others would've follow.
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>>809725
>What are the qualifications for a character to become playable in Rays
I'm still waiting the last boss of Radiant Mythology 1 and 2 to be playable. Kinda weird they are still not added since the last boss of RM 3 is already added
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>>810324
Im pretty sure everyone asking for Elle is asking for kid Elle, mainly because of how much she shows up in story scenes, or at least thats probably what the dev thought when he answered this. And its probably hard to make anything since they only have a short postcredit scene to work off of, where she isn't carrying a weapon or doing any fighting, and whoever wrote Xillia 2 probably didn't think that far for her either.
I do wish they would add Cresty's Mieu and Mecha Asbel, and alot of the Mystic Artes that were designed, its a big waste. Im glad they didn't completely abandon Turtlez shop characters by adding Kruelle so thats a hopeful sign.
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>>809725
>The frightful bond between Jade and Leon thats been mentioned in the story and skits, can we get a xMA for them?
More specifically, they were asking about more xMAs that reference story moments in Rays. Which reminded me that the first batch of xMAs were a poll held to see what memorable Rays cutscene should get turned into an MA.
Which also reminded me that the Judith and Brave Vesperia reunion scene lost…
> https://torays.tales-ch.jp/03/vote5/
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Thinking on playin Rays how they are about old ass fucking events? Do they have a record/store and how does it function?
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>>809725
Is it really that hard to come up with a collab character for Ix? A lot of the time they seem to be drawn out of the hat, at least they could give him someone else from Hanae’s extensive resume for VA jokes?
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>>811117
I think you need to use an item to unlock them
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>>811117
What are you interested in old events for? 'Cuz for the most part you'll want to do them to get the character's skit + their event weapon, you can obtain the character themselves and the rest of their weapons on other banners.

Regardless, there's three types of reruns:
-Reruns for really fucking old shit, where you need to use a rerun ticket. You can do these whenever. Also unlocks the gacha for that event. You get rerun tickets whenever the pool for event reruns is updated, or by shelling out that $$$$. You get event currency by doing random shit like spamming JUSTs, doing orders, etc.
-Eventual reruns, they follow the original release schedule (with the exception of raid events). Doesn't need a rerun ticket, but only lasts two weeks or so. You can redo the story as if you were doing it for the first time for more currency. You get event currency by doing the same random shit as above, but also just from spending stamina, so you don't have to farm it or anything.
-Actual, full-fledged reruns. Usually reserved for raids and collabs, these tend to be pretty rare and don't really have a set schedule. Works like a normal event, so you gotta grind it for reals.

TL;DR if you just want old content you're fine as long as it's not from a collab, in which case you're fucked.
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>>811117
You get these rerun tickets occasionally, and they have a rerun events tab where you can select an old event. The tab doesnt have Raid events or collabs. Collabs are self-explanatory, Raid events usually give you a playable villain. The only real exclusive thing out of each event is a 4* weapon for whatever character debuted, so that would be the #1 thing to buy from a rerun exchange shop.

They gradual add newer ones to the rerun list, but the more recent ones get properly rerun as a normal event.

If you miss an event, you can still unlock a character through getting any of their MAs or 5*, if they are part of a new event (like a seasonal or something), then watching the event story scenes unlocks them for you, or they get added as a recruit from playing the main game story.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAV6asO2lk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS-ReTdBG5w

https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1513353644501987328?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1513353896206422018?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1513354147852025856?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1513354399355133953?s=20
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>>812012
>They gave FC Dhaos a totally not Tidal Wave
>but only as a mastered variation so you cant spam it
They did the same thing with Lailahs burst, i wonder if this is there counter measure for spamming while still being enticing enough to pull for it.
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>>812045
The post says the regular is tidal wave while the mastered is catastrophe wave. They just didn't show regular tidal wave in the video for some reason.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_qZ2FctPrM
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>>812129
lol it has something like 2700 power and the regular is 1600 odd.

It's too bad there's one absolute shit in this banner who'll block every summon. (I don't hate Sophie though, just her hateful implentation of artes)
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>already have a friend with a 150% bonus Dhaos
Man, Japanese people are crazy.
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I really hope ending MA events aren't as frequent as they are now. I get having 2 of them back to back for the Anni celebration, but if it turns out to be an eMA event every month, it is definitely not going to be f2p friendly.
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The winners of the Asteria contest
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>750 grade
>3/4 burst 5*s
>no EMA or OMA
It's nice to walk away with all the 5*s but getting none of the new MAs 2 banners in a row feels like dogshit.
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>>812529
>Dohalim with Hasta
What the
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Very first run. I do not regret unlocking burst on Rita. Even if they do something to nerf damage from spamming, it won’t stop crit stacking from ignoring it.
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>>812529
luv them
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I wish the art of luminaria wasn't so ugly
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Got my 10xMA from the login today. Good timing on getting Baldr before the next event. Loni was the only already maxed
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>>815395
>Loni was the only already maxed
I think most veteran players (or at least around ever since Raysfes started) had their Lonis maxed out because of him always appearing on free pulls
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Im debating what to do with the 5 gMA selectors they gave out at the start of anni, and 1 selector i redeemed with that dupe currency.

Do i get gMAs that im missing for units that are already awakened because i got some other MA of theirs, do i get 6 gMAs for new units i dont have at all, or do i use 3 of them to finish off both of Ix's gMAs because i literally use him for everything. Im racking my brain hard thinking about it.
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I would go for favorites and shit but didn't they gave us a Ix MA dupe on those anniversary boss rush ? and
>Ix needing that much CC
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>>818268
I still don’t have his first gMA maxed, and iv played for at least 3 years and have done previous boss rushes. His second gMA also isn’t done. Weird luck I guess. But I always use him for everything, RayFes fights and those 9999 challenge fights, so I don’t mind investing more for the overkill.
Can’t go for favs since I have them all. I’ll probably go for the first option, I have Meredy oMA and Vagues dMA but no gMA, then I’ll select new characters
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>>818295
jesus fuck your Ix its so loaded , you know you can also pick the act 2 gMA too
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>>818299
I know, I would need to use 3 selectors to finish both gMAs. I don’t personally love or hate Ix, I did hate his initial design, he looked terrible (thank god act 3 fixed that), but I can’t deny all the reasons that make him good and useful.
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>>818115
I used mine for characters I like but didn't have them for.
New awakenings are more exciting than dupes.
I do tend to use Ix for pretty much everything too, though.
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Why do the Tales of games keep failing in the west
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>>819458
Tales games barely get advertised. Look at how hard they went for Arise and it did well, now go back to other games and see how much push they got from Bandai before releasing. Hell, even Vesperia DE did well just from getting its own spotlight in E3 and some ads after. Most JRPGs completely fall under the radar because devs dont make it a big deal. Final Fantasy would be one of the few IPs that doesnt need, because even Dragon Quest games go unnoticed in the West without heavy advertising (the amount of times DQ11S showed up in a Nintendo direct was fucking insane).
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>>819458
What do you mean? There is no reason to whale in Luminaria even in Japan unless you really like specific character(s) and want to do co-op autism. The gacha isn't completely mandatory if you only want to do the main story since enemies difficulty supposedly scales with the characters power level and there is free daily single roll.
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>>819484
What about all the gacha games before Luminaria bro
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>>819507
Tales is obscure, games like Link and Rays lasted much longer in JP than GLB. Gacha games do bad most of the time unless it’s an extremely well known IP, and even then it’s still a gamble. DBZ and One Piece have long lasting gacha, but even One Piece had a game shutdown and Naruto also had some too. Even Pokémon has had games shut down within 1-2 years. And then there’s a mix of other reasons, like incompetent devs (Cresty), bad business practices, low rates, no incentive to spend, or expensive purchases with little compensation.
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>>819507
>Asteria
didn't get released outside jp
>link
ran for a few years and shutdown with jp
>rays
removed dias so every quest gave premium currency killing the need to spend
>cresty
a fucking mess
Crestoria would have lasted longer if it had a polished release but sadly the devs fucked up hard.
Also
>40 PvP matches per week
They deserved the EoS
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Im hating these eMA raids. Too many boss stages and the last one doest get finished until maybe 1 day left. Not alot of people want to use AP refills until the best point fight is unlocked, which is after the last boss hits 100%.
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What exactly was so terrible about Luminaria?
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>>819875
I dont think people think the game itself is bad, its just kinda there, its a game.
The art that looks like it came straight out of an otome game was not a good impression. Just why even change the artstyle in general, it just makes it look like its not even from the same IP.

I guess the main gripe is that it feels like they wanted to make a full game, but instead went with chopping it into episodes where everyone has to wait, and slapping a gacha because maybe that would make them more money than selling a full game.
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>>820256
Did they delete the tweet? I don’t see Baldrs either
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>>820256
>>820312
They deleted both tweets because the copyright at the bottom is the one used for Gintama.

I guess this means Gintama rerun next after this anniv event?
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>>820378
>revealing Alphens SG thru the new loading screen
>accidentally leak new MAs Grune and Rutee
>now this
Geez what is going on
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>>820707
Revealing things before the official announcement isn't anything new for Rays, they've done it a lot before.
Alphen's is definitely on purpose, they zoom in on him in his commercial.
Rutee and Grune's I would think was on purpose if they hadn't deleted Rutee's for a day. I don't know why they would do that since they announced it the next day anyway. Them leaving Grune's alone makes me think the deletion of Rutee's might have been the accident.
I don't know about this one though, it does seem weird to use a copyright to reveal something.
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can someone remind me what main story stages are to grind MA uses and just uses for the rerun events please
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>>820843
Might just be that they left the wrong photoshop layer turned on, and not an actual reveal of anything.
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They reposted Bardo's and Nazar's too with the copyright fixed.
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>>821067
Arc 2, chapter 5, mission 12.
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>>821109
>>820843
The discord archives found one or 2 Gintama images in a recent update.
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>>819638
I don't see how ikeno even has a job at this point. He's fucked up every single thing he's touched so far. Luminaria is an absolute failure and the longer its decaying corpse is dragged through the mud the worse it gets.
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>>822390
>an absolute failure
The story and character interactions so far are unironically better than most recent Tales console games
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>>822225
uooooh TToTT
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>>822390
Who is Ikeno and what else has he done?
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>>822635
Was the vice-producer for Link and Rays. Around the time Arise came out he became general manager for all Tales mobage.
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>>822225
cute daughter...
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>there are people who ironically likes Mercuria
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>>822944
I'm too EOP to hate her for her personality, but cute is cute.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jSwnie9POY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6por9rT3UE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDeUO-AFQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INRGNGzNnhU

https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1516977523002814464?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1516978026260492288?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1516978278090911744?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1516978529740668930?s=20
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>>822944
Have you never met a lolicon anon...

I also just think "fairly average tales villain... who has the intelligence and emotional maturity of a 12-year-old (being that she IS 12)" is hilarious, and her brocon vibes are cute. Her overall appeal is being cute even if dumb and ridiculous (desu you can argue that's part of what makes her cute).
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>>822966
I don’t really get why there’s a fruit theme connecting them all, but Kocis is cute and I want him as per usual.

That said, I’m still waiting for his bath costume, a letter said that we will know eventually know if he wears the eyepatch all the time even in baths etc but no luck yet.

Also waiting for him to get a DMA or OMA where those 2 buttons have come off, has the fight scene with Ix in the OP already happened?
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>>822991
openings can be deceiving
and besides, the theories that at least some of the fight scenes in the op are going to involve bodysnatching are seeming more and more likely
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>>822991
>has the fight scene with Ix in the OP already happened?
Yeah, the fight against Bifrost happened at the end of Fairy's Requiem. It's weird that they put that in the 4th op when it was already done and over in the 3rd arc but I guess they just wanted to have it animated.
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>>822998
I see, honestly I’m not a fan of them fighting each other in the first place so that would be better. Honestly I just want Kocis shirtless, his cleavage is a damn tease and I need more. It’s not fair for only the girls to have sexy fun.
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>>822998
>replicas and possession
sheesh
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>>823004
>a western fujo who doesn't act like lewding Kocis is akin to shotacon
a rarity...
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>>823025
Is that a thing? I know people had issues when his solo playable version was released because of how revealing his outfit was but this is the first time I’m hearing they think it’s shota.

He’s young for sure and a kid but he’s not that young. Not with those abs and that voice.
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>>823026
Not literally but there's a good chunk of western fans who talk about him more like he's elementary school aged instead of... very clearly being intended to be in his mid/late teens (like how he looks).
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>>823026
I think it depends on whether you consider it a physical or mental thing. Physically he's a teen, but he was born during the story so at most he's 5 years old and he does act like a kid.
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>>823029
Well I suppose in some way it’s fair since he does have a younger brother vibe and relationship especially with Ix and he was originally a shota fairy before he turned human.

Me? I just him to have more lewd costumes ever since I saw his GMA.
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>>823012
The story started with the clone stuff. Tales characters are copies made and teleported to this world by characters like Ix/Mileena. One of the early chapters was about 2 Velvets running around, the good one that got over her revenge boner and met her party mates, and the other one who was fresh out of prison from the star of ToB and ready to kill anything for revenge.
The possession was much later. The evil king guy in the OP is using their bodies like vessels for the spirits of his dead subjects.
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>>823234
>The evil king guy in the OP is using their bodies like vessels for the spirits of his dead subjects.
That's Mercuria, not Demetrius. Demetrius supported her though, since he sort of adopted her and the technology led to things that are properly useful to him. This is shit that started in early arc 2 though so it's not exactly "way later".

More recently there's also been a shitload of possession by the setting's gods, for some reason.
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Just a heads up that this anni event also has unlimited EXP orbs to exchange for in the event shop. Take advantage and get your favorites to level 70.
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>>823664
I had no clue, thanks
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>>822407
That's nice. Unfortunately the writing and characters have nothing to do with anything said. The objective was to make money. It didn't. It's a failure.
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>Mercuria's burst 5* acts like a charge 5*
Thats gay, dude. And it has such a good travelling hitbox.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdO7r3NC_Gc
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Gintama Collab rerun with a new Part 3
https://youtu.be/BdO7r3NC_Gc

>Yuri and Judith collab finally
>I’m already so fucking broke
Pain
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>Jade, Judith
Based, the latest gachas have been too unappealing
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>>826383
I don't even play Rays but i'm excited for this, seeing Yuri in Zura's clothes now i can die happily.
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>>826383
well fuck me
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Good way to end the anni, sucks that the collab outfit banners didnt get a free multi
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Here I thought Yuri was going to be next in line to get an eMA, but if he's a part of the Collab, he won't be getting his for awhile. Here's hoping Duke gets that attention soon
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>>822966
>Trying to get either Kocis or Nazar MA
>Got 2 Bardo MA instead so far
Painful
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>>827656
>Have Kocis and Merc well built
>Get Navar and Baldr sMAs, who are completely underbuilt
Brother
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>>828779
>Jade gets 2 collabs
>they're both based off villain characters
I really wonder how Abyss' plot would have turned out if Jade had been the traitor party member and also turned into an antagonist halfway in.
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>>829317
maybe Puke would have a better personality lol
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>>829317
Both of them are seiyuu joke though
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Is that Alvin collab MA supposed to be a DMC reference? Because thats pretty sick.
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>>829770
It's a reference to Alvin's dual MA with Ludger back in X2. Even the fireworks are the same.
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>>829932
Ah damn, even the swirling bullets is identical to what Dante and Vergil do in PxZ.
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>>822225
>those red things are her hair
What
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>>832611
Dont worry anon, i thought they were eyebrows at first. Doesnt help that her eyebrows actually are red, just really thin
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>>832611
Her brother also looked like that.
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>>833848
what the fuck
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>>834224
Wrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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The new series banners are bugged, the Vesperia ones doen't work while the Abyss ones gives Vesperia gear.
The "Abyss" and Rays banners also have 50% MA and 20% 5* rate so feel free to roll the half off before Bamco fixes it.
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>>834648
Thanks, got a 8 mirage pull wtf
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>>834648
>mfw its real
I got 5 MA kek
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>>834758
ALSO I FINALLY GET Judy seasonal on the girls version holy fuck
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>>834648
>didnt want to spend any diamond at all until the collab banner starts
>this shit happens
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>834648
Really regretting spending all my dia on the Gintama collab rn.
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>do the girls banner hoping to at least get one of the twins
>5 MAs
>literally all dupes for my already maxed out Judy/Est/Patty MAs
Im cursed.
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>>834935
Have you maxed out affection your rainbow anima characters? They take the least presents to max out and its easy dia
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why do you play these
rays eos
crestoria eos
luminaria hated and probably eos by fall
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>>799971
tales of mobages...?!?!?! can i make a party with granblue fantasy (the game not characters in it) and azur lane (boat slut) to beat up enemies?
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>>834943
I had a few of them at 8 instead of 10 and the trophies were enough to get to 100 for at least a pull, thanks anon.
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I doubt they're going to refund or roll back anything. We'll probably get some compensation since the banners arent giving GRADE points. They would have shut down this banner quick, but they'll probably leave it until tonight's maintenance.
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>>835009
To be fair, one of these banners literally LOOKS bugged, but they'll still have to compensate us because nip curtesy.
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>>834648
Holy shit you weren’t lying, got 5 mirrors in one ten roll. Imagine if the Gintama collab banners were bugged like this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vp-lteS1Oc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbuDWf3Xrug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgUH5mB409k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSiTdxt2wsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u09GE6uvu7A

https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1520239013919080450?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1520239266801979392?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1520239517457948678?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1520239768948424705?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1520240020518576128?s=20
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>>835254
Please let me get Yuri or Judith. Please.
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>>835254
The animation, camera and overall feel of Judith's is top notch. Especially compared to all the crap in the past 3-3 What the hell happened. Not even the anniversary people got this treatment.
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There's just a notice that they know about the banner bug, that its fixed now, and that they are thinking about what to do. Anyway, good luck on your pulls
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>>835277
Devs make their favoritism way too obvious sometimes
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Managed to get all the collab mirrors except Judith’s. I keep on getting her swimsuit one, can’t complain since I expected to get trolled ever since I got Jade twice in a row. Hope everyone manages to get good rolls.
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i am serious, stop playing these
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>>835744
Congrats, this has been my highlight so far 4 multis in. I got Jades collab 5 and a summer Judy dupe too. Hoping to get her MA too, good luck brother
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>>819638
>They deserved the EoS
I've been saying that since Day 1 after we saw how grindy as shit it was.
I hate all the fucking retards who kept cooming over "MUH 3D MODUHLS"
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>>836062
anyone with a working brain and actual japanese competency would know that cresty was fucking doomed from the get go after the half anniversary
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>>836095
Anyone with an actual brain would know it was doomed from the very start. Its just like when you see Pokemon fans post shots of all those pretty looking Korean mobile games that look infinitely better than any mainline game, only to install the game and get hit with at least 20 different in-game ads about buying bundles/VIP, and seeing that the game completely plays itself like an auto MMO.
Also, mobile game with PVP, enough said.
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Anyone whose played Rays long enough, do they usually have mirrogem bundles for Golden Week?
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>>836062
>Muh 3d models
Yeah im still mad. imagine the porn
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>>835963
I'm serious piss off retard
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This was my first pull, I freaked out because 2 of them were yellow > rainbows
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>>836415
You fucker
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>>836415
Wow that's a really good pull.
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New daily event just dropped. You get a token to exchange for a multi ticket from each Tales title. You’ll get a total of 5 tokens, so choose wisely.
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>>836738
>no Arise ticket
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>>837213
>pick Tempest ticket
>Lukius and Forest aren't included
Meh. I wish I can see the detail before I choose the ticket
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>>837249
>thought the Vesperia Girl ticket would have the twins since they were in the Vesperia Girl pick up banner
>lol no
Yeah seriously. That was a waste.
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>>837249
>>837419
Abyss not being split should have tipped you off that they were old banners.
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>>835277
She hasn't gotten anything new for years compared to the other two.
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>>838084
yeah the last shit Judith got was on that summer event in 2019
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>>838084
Pascal hasn't had anything since Halloween 2018. Longer than every other character. It's not going to suddenly make her quality skyrocket.
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>>838370
You don’t know that until it happens lol
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>you actually fight Shinpachi as a Polywiggle in the challenge fight
>Actually had an MA
I'm gonna assume it's the April fool's MA, I tried like 3 times to get him to use it on me. That's pretty based tho
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>>838370
>Karol crying in the corner since 2017
At least Pascal got her seasonal the same year she was added. Karol got his Christmas alt a year later. I just want that boy to get an overray or decisive, and they already used his shining moment as his base MA. The only other real moment is him getting over the Dons death.
Also playable Don when?
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>>838084
She's next on the list to get a duo with Harold. After they release the family bond runner ups, it's her batch. 6-8 months left.
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>>836505
>>836540
Thanks, this game's rates are so 50/50
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>playing some coop
>set every character for max bonus
>get stuck playing as Chester for 5 games in a row
Damn, poor guy, nobody wants to play as him.
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As a heads up, you can buy the collab costumes from the Turtlez shop. Only Yuri, Judy, and Jades aren’t available, but everyone else is, including the Gintama characters. So if you like a costume, get it now because they’ll be gone once the collab is over.
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>>838584
It’s not impossible for them to reuse that scene from other angle since Asbel has reused the Lambda scene twice. Less likely obviously since Karol doesn’t seem very popular, Rays is the first time he showed up in a crossover ever, compared to Repede and Patty who are just difficult to implement because of their body type and gameplay.
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>>841537
I mean if Ivar of all people got an overray, I’m sure Karol has a better shot.
If they ever add Nan or the Hunting Blades, or have a RayFes themed around the younger characters, it’d be a good opportunity. Would have been a good pair for Ruca, they’re both scaredy-cats, with love interests who are tougher, and the cross dressing joke. But Ruca was already used.
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May pv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnPN6SKoAvc
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>>845753
>Water
>Not dark, showing that she's conquered the Thorns and the Great Astral Spirit, the power lingering within her bloodline as the maiden
>But water, the element of the guy who braided her hair and put her in a cute black dress while her Alphen moped around on a beach
I am euphoric. Even the Rays team recognizes Arise as the NTR Tales.
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>>841618
Yeah, well we’ll see what happens in the future. Honestly now that I think about it, they both were forced into cross dressing, but both games also gave them slutty male outfits. But we’ll probably not see them interact in Rays or get those outfits.
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>1 min for destiny 2 shit on the PV
boy I'm glad I'm skipping all this month, a shame about that xMA with lilith and rimule
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>>841993
feet

>>845753
majin rengokusatsu looking lame as always
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>>841537
>Rays is the first time he showed up in a crossover ever
This is pretty sad since he's been a pretty central character in Vesperia. Second to Estelle even
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>>845753
>Rita SG
Nice
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>>845999
>Be the character with the second most development after the main heroine
>The main reason why Brave Vesperia became a thing
>A lot of time went into his character over literally everyone else except Estelle
>Gets shafted in basically every crossover game because fans doesn't like his character
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Kerol isn't that important you dummies
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>>846101
You know there's something wrong that all the story focus given to Karol only for him to end up as the least popular Vesperia party member
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>>846120
>eMA for Kyle and oMA for Judas, Reala is just kinda there.
So not every eMA release will be "protag+villain from different games", thats good i guess.
>Rimul and Lilith duo will be paired with the Alphen, Shionne, Rita SG banner
What the.

Also the ending message of the PV is hinting towards another Asteria collaboration. I sure hope they learned their lesson after last time
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>>845825
>or get those outfits.
Luca's magical girl outfit was the first one implemented for him...
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>>846142
If I see that Japan thinks that Anise is a better child character than Karol, they’re logic and opinion is complete shit.
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>>846190
>Rimul and Lilith duo will be paired with the Alphen, Shionne, Rita SG banner
Where are you seeing this? Because Rimul and Lilith are with the other D2 characters
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>>846142
The fact that fucking Patty got a collab MA while Karol didn't really rings true that no one likes this boy

>>846212
Anise is more popular than Natalia. Try letting that sink in
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>>846383
>>846142
I still think Patty consistently remains as the least popular Vesperia party member but that's cheating since she's a re-release character so yeah, no one likes Karol
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>>846398
>>846142
I think the general consensus has been

Yuri>Flynn>Raven>Rita>Estelle>Judith>Repede>Patty>Karol
Which hurts Karol even more if the rest of the male party members are this well liked.
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>>846190
i'll have to laugh if it's Asbel a month after he got his last MA. Form Change for the best character in the game, literally no reason to use it. I can see them doing it too.
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>>846455
>Most FCs are literally just bonus weapon levels
We need more FCs like Dark Nono.
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>>845767
Kek. Isn't it just as a contrast to Alphen's fire?
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>>846210
That’s not a slutty male outfit. I was referring to Ruca’s swimsuit that’s shorter and smaller than the other guys not naked Ricardo. I hate the cross dressing crap.
As for Karol he was the only male who got shirtless costumes, Yuri and Flynn had cutscene models but it wasn’t made playable unless modded. Karol got a swimsuit, towel with underwear below and a shirtless black tight pants outfit.
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form change is still a very retarded concept on this weapon gacha
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>>846484
>tfw they modeled green briefs for Karol instead of just a white or black void under it
Very lewd, I must say.
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>>846526
They also gave Raven tighty whities of all things for his underwear under his onsen outfit
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>>846535
How are you able to even see that?
Makes me wonder what is below Yuri and Flynn’s towels even if they’re cutscene only. I heard Pc players can mod them on titles that don’t have costumes attached.
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>>846378
That’s weird, the tweet translated it into saying that the duo would be with the SGs. Must’ve been worded wrong
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>>846536
Just make Raven get knocked down at a certain angle where you can see his white briefs
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>>846535
>>846539
>Raven wears tighty whities
Damn, that's actually embarrassing
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>>846541
Probably just something easier to model than boxers and whatnot so might not be his canon choice. Karol’s is canon though since they bothered to make it even green.
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>>846482
The official reason is roughly "She had too many elements in the game to pick one that way. Despite having curse of thorns, she tries to help and heal people, so Undine is well attuned to her"
Suuuuure Shionne, just keep telling everyone that. That's totally the reason you're attuned to water.
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>>846555
I think your mind is too affected by porn. You retarded ntrfag
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>>846562
I think he's just a pathetic ntrfaggot considering he had to look up on fucking youtube just to prove his claims
Probably someone who doesn't even play the games.
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>>846564
>Probably someone who doesn't even play the games.
At least Ednafag isn't here
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So the next event will be eMA for Kyle, oMA Judas, Rimul and Lilith with their xMA, and then Reala is just in there with her new burst? That's a 5-man banner, that's alot for a new release banner. Adding Reala was just unnecessary
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>>846622
oh boy those rates for MA will be fucking dogshit lmao
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>>846630
Yeah this is a terrible banner. Because Rimul and Lilith will both have their gMA in the pool, since they have no seasonal. Kyle might also have either his gMA or dMA as he also has no sMA. They do that with alot of recent banners now that gMAs are so old (notice how you can't get Yuri or Judy gMA in the Collab banner, but Jades is still on there since he has no sMA).
Reala might only have her sMA, but she's not getting a new MA out of this so they might throw in her gMA or dMA.
Yeah these odds are real bad.
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So are we not getting the xmas for Hisui/Kohaku or Genus/Raine?
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>>846669
A brief skim of the new Dev Letter since I don't have time until later, but I think they're planning to release an xMA with every eMA event. At least for the Family Ties batch
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May Dev Letter
>Next version update 4.13 is for general bug fixes
>June thru September updates will consist of further tinkering with the Best Heroes tower seasons, updates to Unison mode and dealing with players that go AFK during rounds, changes to the Friend Point gacha, and changes to the Friend/Helper list. Release is subject to change.
>About Best Heroes, they're looking how to balance the way using an MA interrupts a Critical chain, since its more efficient to players to continue a Critical chain rather than use any MAs. They're going to keep reviewing the Critical mechanic and see what they can do if anything. No mention of measures towards spamming Tidal Wave/large AoE moves
>Feedback towards people that auto Unison mode, they're looking to make MAs activate automatically so those players aren't complete deadweight. They might also look into a blacklist feature if it doesn't hurt the matchmaking load times.
>Improvements to the FP gacha. It won't be a complete overhaul, but they're looking at the potential of adding items you can collect and trade in for tickets or other good.
>Improvement to the Friend/Helper list. They are looking at a way for you to choose whatever friend you have with the highest event bonus, as well as fixing the terrible Update refresh button.

May Events
Tales of Destiny 2 ending event.
>eMA for Kyle. oMA for Judas. xMA for Rimul and Lilith. Does not mention Reala at all.
>Regarding the unreleased runner ups from previous Ray Festivals, they plan to release them along other ending events. However, there will be exceptions to some.
Spirit Gears for Alphen, Shionne, and Rita.
>Alphen is obviously fire. Shionne uses a variety of elements, but they narrowed it to water because she's always healing people. Rita is the same, but they went with shadow because he thought it looked cool (yes, thats what he said).

Another Q&A in the next post.
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>>847040
Q&A part1
>Thank you for adding Alexei, are their any plans to have more villain focused events?
Yes. Like the Casino Midnight event with Mithos and Sync, villains interacting like that is something unique to Rays, and something we want to keep making.
>Please raise the cap on Unison badges, and review their effects, etc.
We're not thinking about this yet. We know people like playing Unison, and we'll be focusing on bigger changes to it first. I would add to like some kind of strategy to the mode.
>Please add badges for characters that dont have any. Also make some for the Turtlez shop only characters.
We'll be adding them in a timely manner. Since Turtelz only characters are harder to get, it might be hard to make a Unison season about them, but i'd like to add them too eventually.
>Some gacha games you have collabed with have ended their services. Is it still possible to rerun them?
It's entirely up to the IP owner, it doesn't matter if their game has ended service. I personally want to do it when the timing is good and when the other parties' IP is active. I will keep trying to talk with them!
>About xMAs, is there no chance that a character who already has one can show up in another one?
We know you want to see various character combinations, and i think about them too. But as of now, there are no plans. There is one issue, the combinations can get complicated, is confusing to know who has an xMA with who if there are multiples. Its a UI problem that we have to look into and solve.
>Possible collabs with Vtubers and Youtubers?
Its possible! But, we want to keep this game as "Tales of the Rays" and not just turn it into "The Rays," we need to focus on Tales of material connection if we were to collab. (Also theres a certain person that looks similar to a certain Asteria character that the dev is thinking about)
>Which characters were the hardest to make into 3D for Rays?
Rimul, Chatlier, Magnadeus. Pluto especially because there was barely any material.
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>>847070
Q&A part2
>Will Shaorune from Rebirth be added?
No plans, but Its a possibility, i'd like to defeat enemies with Aquarius Sphere
>Kyle has no seasonal or overray.
We're doing his ending MA first, but someday we'll do those.
>Can we have events for holidays like mothers day, childrens day, old people day, etc?
Thanks for the idea. (Something about Alvin throwing beans at Elize?) We do have alot of characters that can be applied to those holidays, i'd love to think it over.
>Option to sort Skits to see the unviewed skits at the top please?
Our dev is looking into the game's sorting feature. (Side note, the person asking this listed their favorite characters, Redau from X2, Chlorseraph and Fluora from Hearts) Also it seems all you're favorite characters haven't participated in Rays... I'll do my best.
>About adding/giving attention to lesser known characters, same question as last time
Now that we have every Tales party member, we would like to focus on the obscure picks little by little. We will still have events that focus on the more major characters and the like, but we're still striving to find a nice balance.

Thanks to every one for sticking with Rays as we finish our 2 month long 5th anniversary. The ending for The Last Cradle will be coming to a close in the game's 6th year, so look forward to more info on that as we approach our 6th anniversary.
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>>846489
+ they have ugly chuuni tier designs
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>>847070
What does this mean, a handful of the collabs had no prior connection to Tales.
Like Guilty Gear, Valkyria, TB, that gag anime from a few months ago etc
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>>847070
>>847088
Be honest, did you MTL this?
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>>847277
That translation is completely wrong. They said that if they collab with a youtuber/vtuber, they want that person to know the Tales material that Rays references. The question asker also said that Asteria already collabed with Bou New Young before so Rays should too and the dev replied that he thinks Young fits Asteria's image more than Rays.
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>>846870
So I guess Raysfes voting is now less about "does this xMA get in or not?," and more about "does this xMA get into the xMA-filled banner, or on its own with a bunch of other event stuff?"
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>>847300
yeah I'm thinking the same too
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>>847288
>Bou New Young
Who the fuck is Bou New Young?
某NEWでヤングな方々 just means "certain new and young individual(s)" but in Engrish to sound hip.
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>>847326
I thought it was a name because of the mixed english. I didn't bother looking it up or whatever.
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>>847326
>>847349
The letter is talking about New Young TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E_jenIrNHU
It's Zelos' VA's youtube channel.
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>on the third roll
nice, kind of want to roll again but i don't care for milla and ludger (and i already got cucked by the former twice)
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Shocking absolutely nobody, Tales of Luminaria is shutting down.
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>>847430
They should have released it as full paid game instead of a gacha one imo
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>>847433
It still wouldn't have worked because they would still have to juggle 21 main characters in one game. The whole thing a failure from the start, it was simply too bloated and with very little effort put into it. It was bound to crash and burn sooner or later.
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>>847430
I came here just to find a place where I could laugh at this
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>>847153
>they have ugly chuuni tier designs
>form change
there hasn't been a single rays-original form change. milla/lloyd/yuri were taken from asteria as a collab and everything else is from the original games
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>>847430
Will the characters even make it into Rays? If no one played the game, then no one is going to pay for their gacha. Maybe Luminaria should just fade away into Tales black history with all the other dead mobile games.
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OHNONONONONONO
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>>847430
English server only or both ?
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>>847430
speaking of flops, will they ever release the concept art for cresty's original costumes?
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>>847453
both kek
https://twitter.com/to_luminaria/status/1523936368027611136
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>>847458
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>847430
At least Crestoria last for a year and half lol
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>>847437
I thought it will work just fine since it's similar with Fire Emblem Three House since its main story is technically just 3 story routes
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>>847430
Serves them right for half-assing Arise
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At least Rays and Asteria is safe, right ??
Theres no new brand costumes lately so its kinda worrying
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>>847464
Crestoria failed for having shit management and a refusal to listen to user feedback (+ billing bug). it at the very least had "some" potential before release to be relatively sucessful. Looking at the numbers anyway.

They must have been able to tell this was doomed from the start. The reluctance to accept their own failures is really starting to affect them now.
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>>847464
Cresty also had most of its shit premade on release. Every one knew about Awakened Vicious, and just about almost every alt because all of it was already in the game files that early. Most events were just being drip fed at a slow pace too.
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>>847480
Only if every damn playable character is relegated as "supporting characters" instead. The games main downfall was treating everyone as the MAIN characters, and having to juggle each one for the spotlight. That was the selling point of the game and I'm not sure how anyone thought this would ever work.
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>>847430
How bad is the game?
I heard it has framerate issues and bad controls?
I never touched it.
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>>847430
>Push Arise out the door a few months too early
>Throw the early profits into an outsourced mobile game reskin
>Spend out the ass advertising it
>Resist all feedback about the mechanics, vertical view, and so on
>Launch it as is, Tales fans ambivalent; have to add "anime game" to the title to attract the actual target demographic
>Industry-wide earnings reports indicate that cashgrab mobile games aren't managing to grab cash anymore in a post-Genshin world, smart money is on in-house boutique quality games
>Shamefully announce that Luminaria is dead, having made it 1 out of 8 episodes for each character (having assumed that it would thrive for at least three years)

Truly amazing. Bamco managed to snatch one last financial loss by betting on the 'mobile games don't need to be good to be profitable' bubble, right as everyone else began moving their production in-house, something that they *already did* with Rays but never cared to cultivate or replicate.
The only way this could get more funny is if they turn around and do some kind of Tales NFT project with the other half of Arise's profits, since that would be just about as timely as Luminaria was to the mobile market.
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>>847638
>mobile games don't need to be good to be profitable
This is true though.
The problem is that mobage still has to be decent enough so people still want to play it.
And this time they went way below it.

This is like Sakura Kakumei
>copy pasted FGO formula
>a formula that only succeeded because of the Fate name
>except let's not put in old characters for nostalgiabait
>also shitty visuals unlike FGO's pretty spritework
>events and shit keep getting delayed
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>>847430
GahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>847509
They’re still making consistent bank and getting collabs so they’re in no immediate danger
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>>847633
My only problem is mostly the camera although some characters do clunky to play
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>>847430
The story/characters were great, but that doesn't get people spending. And there was pretty much zero reason too spend. Raids that give nothing ultimately aren't incentive to spend and that is the only time you'll see your fancy gear, given the stories don't let you customize until you've beaten it once. And there is little reason to replay again unless you missed something.
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>>847503
I’m playing arise and some of these bosses are just unfun. Just got to the wind place and the first boss is a upscale mob that can just be invisible unless you use the earth dude plants. Plus doesn’t help you can’t really stagger bosses and they have hard tells.
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>>847643
I think only a few gacha games can get away with have shit game play. And that’s fgo/ nier one and that’s only because people like the characters. You have to try now seeing how genshin changed the playing field for new gachas.
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>>847509
What are you talking about, we just have anniv suits and dresses and raincoats in Rays and Asteria respectively.
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>>847430
good riddance
the money to make this could have been used on a simple port or collection, I am tired of bamco wasting time playing the gacha lotto
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They had almost no audience for that game. Why in the world would they get a completely different artist, and take the plot in a completely different route? They were just trying to copy and ride on the popularity of Fire Emblem 3H. Crestoria lasted longer because it looked like it belonged to the Tales universe, the art made it look like a Tales game, it was about a party going on an adventure; it attracted people that liked Tales games.
Lumin was the weirdest fucking take, the art looked like it was supposed to be for a gay dating VN, the plot was just straight out of FE3H but with 20+ characters doing their own thing at the same time. They could have kept it simple, a story with 3 different MCs that travel at different points, meet an ally or 2 and then they all come together.
The gameplay is something else, Crest lasted longer despite it being a cut and dry turn based RPG, but they went with 3D gameplay for Lumin and rather than at least make it similar to other 3D Tales games, its just barebones as fuck, like a musou with no enemies and only 2 attack buttons. Even the musou game that came out on the PSP did a better job of converting Tales gameplay into an action game.
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>>848033
Some of your criticisms are really weird, there is nothing inherently wrong in a different artist, the mainline games have had a couple at this point. Also the game was more focused on coombait than fujo, I can’t imagine the female fans having had much interest in this compared to the other games.
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>>848048
Its a brand recognition thing. If you were to take the portraits used in skits from games like Symphonia and put them next to the ones from Vesperia or Graces, you can see that the characters actually look like they belong together. No one looks completely out of places in the scene, outside of minor touches or looking cleaner. Now i would say do the same with Luminaria, but since they dont have skit portraits, you can just use the regular art renders, now suddenly theres a big contrast and it looks like a crossover with some other IP, some of them looking like they should be in a Trails game. Even the official art work used for things like boxart or profiles has stayed mostly consistent all the way to Berseria (Lumin didnt even bother making any).

Would you want to make a sequel that looks almost nothing like previous games? The public always plays things by eye, they see the visuals, the trailers, the gameplay. Nothing at all made this game look like Tales. You're scaring away all your committed fans that love qualities of previous games almost completely to try to attract a newer audience that you're not even sure of. Tales is still a rather obscure series still, why would you want to even do that? The gacha games worked out longer because they're using established characters as the selling point. Fans still bought and played Zesteria because it still kept some Tales roots, even if their expectations were sucker punched. AND they were even trying to push Lumin as part of the mainline entries, that was part of their advertising for god knows why.
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>>847430
Shame, I liked it. Of all the gacha game I was playing the one that has an actual plot dies. Now I'll never know why Hugo defected (tho this one I can guess) and what's killing the Primordials.
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>>848254
Welcome to gacha gaming, your favorite games will die and shit ones will continue for 3-4 more years.
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BRING BACK CRESTORIA OR RAYS YOU ASSFUCKS
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>>848270
.......Dragalia was shafted thanks to MTR's shit decision-making in the first year and Nintendo sabotaging it for the rest. OKD tried to salvage it.........
>posting trailers of the game only before launch, during P5S collab, and AFTER EoS news
I hate nu-Nintendo.
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>>847430
Aside from lack of jp dub, my problem with the game was that I heard you can't play with a character until you reach their story, which is bullshit. Every gacha I know lets you use whoever you want for battles even if it makes no sense for them to be there storywise, so having to go through the stories of characters I don't like/don't care about to be able to use the ones I like and possibly only for their story is a huge turn-off.
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>>848564
>you can't play with a character until you reach their story
Correct. Oh, yeah, you can get costumes and weapons and equipment for anyone in the gacha tab and mess around with their appearance and equipment settings and even see their profiles, but you still can't used them at all if they're not in the story yet.
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I tried Luminaria day one (?), but holy crap the UI was terrible and hard to navigate through I had to uninstall. sorry to hear about this, but my word what a waste of developmental resources. just make it into a mainline game if you have to. or an original animation video.
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>>848270
>>848254
about the hugo thing

https://twitter.com/to_luminaria_en/status/1523936746949738496/photo/1
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Once again I come here to laugh at you.
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>>848612
>https://twitter.com/to_luminaria_en/status/1523936746949738496/photo/1
well, that's something at least, the anime was okayish, too. Looking forward to archive
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>>848785
I dropped Rays ages ago so why are they making the default versions of characters rollable again? I've seen Rita, Estelle, Luke, etc in the past few months.
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>>848853
There are different kinds of MA. The gMA (gacha MA) is the standard one released when a character is added. Since then, they’ve made dMA (decisive), oMA (overray), and eMA (ending); these are stronger ones or have special effects. There’s also xMA (cross or duo). These all use their default appearance since they reference bigger moments from their games story, they’re not seasonals. Although they still get a costume out of it if you roll them.
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>>848890
Ah, I see.
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>D2 event starts friday
>2 raid events overlapping
>it's probably gonna be a short event period if they want both the sg and asteria events this month
Goddamn I hope the raid finishes before the last day.
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>>848610
>just make it into a mainline game if you have to
They actually count Luminaria as a mainline title despite being a mobile game+gacha
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>>849102
Way to go, Bamco.
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Hopefully this means an end for new Tales gacha. I mean sure I would like something nicer looking than Rays and Asteria, but what's the point if it won't make it because of terrible decisions
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>>849136
I don't mind too much as long as the characters are neat.
Let 'em start up, die, and eventually get adopted into Rays.
But I didn't much care about Lumi in that regard, from what little of it I played.
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>>849136
You're right, Bamco keeps trying to fit square pegs in round holes with Luminaria and Crestoria and always messing up. At least Crestoria is getting some kind of continuation, Luminaria is fucked.
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>>849152
I really wonder if they're going to bother adopting all the Lumin characters into Rays. I feel like they actually cared about Cresty's cast, and promoted its release like a part of the mobile family. I dont remember them at all acknowledging Lumin
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>>849552
>I dont remember them at all acknowledging Lumin
They actually retweeted most Luminaria tweets on Tales Channel Twitter but not the EoS news for some reason
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>>849606
I meant the Rays devs in live streams or the monthly dev letters. I guess we'll just have to wait for the next dev letter, and for someone to ask about Lumin in a Q&A if anyone cares enough.
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>>848928
Is the next event going to be a raid event?
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>>849650
The notice for it doesnt mention details at all, unlike looking at the Gintama collab raid notice where it talks about the points and rewards. I think this is like a quick story prologue event and the real event is after the Gintama collab ends?
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>>849219
they are sure ballsy to enough announce eos for crestoria even before luminaria release that's for sure
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>>848890
EMAs don’t get costumes though, which I still think is BS. They only get another cut-in to use.
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https://twitter.com/staroftherogue/status/1524044626931425280/photo/1
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when was the tales of phantasia blu ray being released?
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>>850083
The current Tales marketing and managing team should be wiped out completely. Nothing but mistakes since Gachas were first made
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>>850083
Don't know what surprises me more. The fact they even accepted the question, or the retarded answer that showed they had no faith in the game in the first place?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_xyvydLNe8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_-cHHcXN0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPKe6LZmSAU

https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1524950056276590592?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1524950307716751360?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1524950559916179465?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1524950811364585472?s=20
https://twitter.com/talesof_therays/status/1524951063060590593?s=20
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>the banner has everyone’s gMA
>but it also has dMAs
Oof, that’s still not a good trade off for a 5-man banner. But good luck to anyone pulling
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>>850083
Holy fucking shit.
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>random im@s banner rerun in Rays but not the event itself
What

>>847430
at the end of the day the monetization strategy was… insane… and it killed the game on day one.
What do you get for spending money? Some power and cosmetics. The power is mostly worthless, seeing how a vast majority of the game scales to your power level and you never really feel overpowered no matter what you do.
But cosmetics are great, right? Good cosmetics alone can keep a game afloat? But what good are cosmetics if you can’t use them?! And what’s worse: most of the costumes are worse than the default costumes. No, I don’t want this woman to wear a potato sack thank you very much.
Why would anyone have spent money on the game?
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>Rita and Shirley have completely disappeared from teams in Best Heroes
Jesus, what did they do?
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>>852304
It got changed, can't just full degen tidal wave gotta play for crits and weakness more.
Also points needed was reduced and enemies to kill too, so you gotta wait a couple days for S rank
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>>852138
>>random im@s banner rerun in Rays but not the event itself
It's celebration for Bandai Namco festival, you uncultured swine
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>No new stuff, just reruns

I imagine somewhere in Bamco HQ, the entire Tales gacha crew is being yelled at right now
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>>852138
I know the Tales fanbase is pretty slow on uptakes but here's the reason why we're getting those Im@s banners. Asteria also got them too
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>>852368
Asbel remains the best character to use literally everywhere. How can one character have so many broken tools with a 5* + 3* + 4*.

Did this one with Cress (90% Light damage) Mithos, Asbel and I don't remember the last. Kokuusouhazan just killed everything as they came out.
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>>852368
>change Best heroes
>don't ship the crit change that makes it persist during MAs
Wow, instead of crit fishing with spells I have to do the same shit with melees.
GJ, Bamco.
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>>852404
>no new stuff
>the new event for D2 just started
???
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>>852942
It's about the im@s rerun. You can't get the collab characters LB crystals without wasting a selector or using Turtlez shop since the actual events aren't being rerun.
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Can’t stop me from using Rita. She’s still good for killing off weaker enemies or stagger locking with Tidal Wave. The mode still completely relies on crit though. It felt nice using different characters at least.

Asbel and Flynn will definitely be staples, both have 5*s that have no element, only do 1 hit so they have a better crit chance, and Flynn’s has a 6th enchant that boosts its crit rate on top.
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>got the free sMA ticket from the event
>dupe Karol
>the one single fucking sMA I have maxed out years prior only because it was Judiths debut
GOD
DAMMIT
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>>799971
So which is the best one?
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>>854388
Do you want to play a 3D Tales lite? Rays
Do you want to collect jpegs of your Tales wife? Asteria
Do you want to suffer? Luminaria
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>>854401
>download rays
>maintenance
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>>854401
>Do you want to collect jpegs of your Tales wife? Asteria
My wife gets more content in Rays, actually... Asteria is a dogshit game if you like any character that isn't Yuri, Alisha, Colette, or Mikleo
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>the idol banners were only up for like 3 days
We’ll alrighty then
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>>854705
The idol banners were only up because of the Banam Festival.

Are you guys this far behind on what's happening?
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>>854631
>My wife gets more content in Rays
Let me guess. Is it Symmone?
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>>854779
I knew about the whatever banana festival, but they could've kept it for a week at least. The half off multi for the Collab outfits was kinda nice, but no one has resources after the Gintama Collab.
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>>854802
>but no one has resources after the Gintama Collab.
I don't give a shit about Jade, Yuri, or Judith thogh
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>>854832
Well that’s nice, but did you skip every single anni banner as well? Not a majority of people because even the rerun step ups were a very good deal. Anni banners, 2 back to back eMA events and then a collab that a lot of people wanted to rerun finally right after, the majority of players are broke.
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and this is why I only go for favorites , because if you want everything in za rays it will crush your fucking soul
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>>855078
Thats generally how most play Rays, unless you're a new player, then you want to build up your roster. Or you have alot of favorites. They try to add pressure to it when they added d/o/x/eMAs since they're very rarely ever in the pool.
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I roll for everyone, but once they have at least 3 MAs it feels pointless to roll for them anymore even if I like the character.
The only anni banner I went deep on was the bifrost one since they rarely show up. I actually feel turned off by a banner when they have popular characters in them because I'm likely to have that character well equipped already.
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>start game
>MAJINKENMAJINKENMAJINKENMAJINKEN
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>>847643
And yet Sakurabros won in the end.
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>>854781
Incorrect.

I think Harold actually doesn't even have a 5*/6* gacha unit? Pretty sure everything 4*+ she's gotten has been an event reward or an awakening partner.
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>>855098
xmas are easier because they get a lot of free reruns. They just tend to be paired with other xmas instead of with content of the characters themselves.
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>>855912
Depends on who you want. There’s a lot of xMAs now, they only rerun a handful of them during festivals. Also I believe it’s like 8-10 characters on the rerun banner, definitely not good odds.
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>>855903
>Harold
Asteria only caters to Kyle, Judas, and Reala for Destiny 2 so you're out of luck
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>>855903
You say as if Rays didn't ignore her either.
Look at the rest of the D2 party members
>Kyle: gMA, dMA, xMA, cMA, sgMA and eMA
>Reala: gMA, sMA, dMA, oMA, and sgMA
>Judas: gMA, sMA, dMA, oMA, and xMA
>Loni: gMA, sMA, and xMA
>Nanaly: gMA and sMA
>Harold: gMA
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>>856145
>Kyle: gMA, dMA, xMA, cMA, sgMA and eMA
Jesus
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>>856147
Kyle is the protagonist of his game and has been in Rays ever since the first year. He's meant to be far ahead of everyone else
Also, he's actually one of the best red anima characters so he's definitely good that he has more content
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>>856137
That was my point though
>>856145
She has an sMA actually. But my point wasn't "Rays treats Harold well", it was "Asteria doesn't even give me waifu jpgs so it's worthless to me".

Also she's mechanically viable; I'm using her in BH. If I tried to use her in Asteria I'd be gimping myself because of her utter fucking lack of gacha units.
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>>856152
The amount hardly matters in rays anyway, it's the gameplay quality more than anything. His dMA and sgMA are amazing damage/range wise so anything that isn't as good as his dMA is only if you like the animation.

Like Mithos' Jigenzan, Shuneijin and gMA are better than 99% of everything any character has regardless of how many artes or mirrors they have. Even his own other mirrors and 5* are pointless outside of stats.
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>>856254
I don't like Mithos voice though. Never liked how they never change the VA despite sounding like a senile grandma now
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>>856274
At least no Tales character is voiced by Megumi Hayashibara. She sounds legitimately horrible nowadays
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A heads up that the Destiny 2 Event also has unlimited medium EXP orbs to trade in for in the shop. Different from the anni party events having unlimited small orbs.
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Harold is also set to have an xMA with Pascal
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I don't care lol
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I care. I don't know about what, but i do.
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400 dia + more, as compensation for the recent bugged, high-rate banner.
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>>857112
>double the refund back since I only did the 2 half off mulits
Based devs.
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>Crestoria dead
>But its corpse will be repurposed for a Rays banner
It died for fucking Lumineria and Lumineria didn't even last a year. I feel like this is all we'll see of them again.





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