Hellagur from Arknights.
>>522654Specter from Sharknights.
Blemishine from Defenderknights
Shaw from squirrelknights
Why skins don't come with new voicelines bros?
>>522696The only one that's carrying the game. All the rest are expendable whores and fujo faggotry.
>>522746Shaw is so very cute.
>>522964Is it time my fellow shawbro
>>523112I wish but I have a job now that I'm at so I can't post cute Shaws right now.
>>523120I wish i have a job now.
>>523120same man but the thought of shaw powers me through the day
Trying to do the permastun trick in this CC remembers me a lot of the old Lucifer strategies in PAD. Holy shit, it's almost a decade since I have been living this gacha life.
Can f2p clear out Dusk's event store?
>>523187I believe in you.>>523310Shaw, Scene and shitposting get me through the long days. I just don't have any arknights pictures on my phone.>>523324Now that's something I have played in a long ass time. Did you clear at least?>>523335They won't no. You will be short like 180~ sanity but you can always skip the t1 items.
Well today's max risk was actually fun to go for.
>>523357>Did you clear at least?I did, although it was not as high risk as it could have been, and I don't want to do it again.
>>523600Good job. I don't blame you there though. I did the Weedy strat for blade and holy shit it sucked ass even at only like risk 22.
The /vg/ general is full of horny SEA's, i guess i'll just have to post here instead
>>524226Welcome. you won't be free from horny here though. I dunno if we have many SEA's here but we do have multiple leafs.
>>524234why is it so hard to have actual threads where there's actual discussion
>>524235Well just look at past threads here and you will find discussion, it's usually just between me and another dude though.
>>524235we have discussions its just ya know /vmg/ is a slow board
tho i am not as active as some people in these threads i do like to visit occasionally for the past 7 months since i started and i wouldnt say its overly horny, especially relative to how sexual everyone seems in the average /vg/ thread from what im aware. theres a large amount of conversation just towards gameplay as far as ive noticed.
>>524321I'm a lurker too for past few months and I gotta say, most of the discussion is just wall of text of gameplay and planning which is a fun to read while completing dailies
Yostar must hate Eyjalet like me or something. Fuck them.
It finally fucking happened. A skin for best girl.
>>524631Makes me wonder if that guy who made a video about how she is never gonna get a skin because he thinks she will die is feeling now
Guys can you please help me out and tell where are arts like these get posted on social media and where can I see all of them?Found these randomly on twitter and wanted to find more since I just really like the overall design of the banners like these.Tried JP twitter account but they were not posted there.Where can I get them?
Another example.Again, I am not really search for the specific character art but banners like these as a whole
>>524798>>524800Maybe this is the account you're looking for https://twitter.com/arknights_info/status/1415568469009911809?s=19
>>524800Personally I find this skin ugly.
>>524800CN Arknights stuff is posted to their weibo. https://weibo.cn/u/6279793937
>>524798>ceobe coral coast is garbageJust fuck me.
is the half anniversary event tomorrow actually releasing things to do? or is it just a stream of things to come?
>>524819I hate the chibi so while I'm going to have to buy it, I'm not gonna use it.>>524928I don't think Eyja's is much better honestly.>>525055I'm assuming it's Dusk's event. I do realize they haven't actually previewed anything for it yet though.
>>525079yeah, thats why i was curious but my friend showed me a tweet about something for the half anniversary but i wasnt sure if its just an announcement or going to just release content
>>525088They did announce the half anni for tomorrow but the maintenance is only saying pre-loading standard headhunting which is kinda counter to that. They could be delaying the actual event till after CC but I kinda hope they don't, I'm getting tired of farming chips.
>>525094lol, ive just been farming chips too. im tired of having 0 of them when i want to elite somebody
>>525104It's less that and more what I need to finish my current batch is all stuff I can get from Dusk's event so I'd much rather wait for that.Also I'm not going to have any good reason to reply to anyone here with this so please just enjoy it. I'm debating if I want to work on actually typestetting his "operators that find the doctor disgusting" series or not.
>>525106im happy i was the one you chose to reply to it with anon. maybe i should finally attempt to do higher than risk 18 on a contingency contract, youre right.
>>525117I've done above 18 and it's honestly not super worth it unless you really like (you)'s. I think max risk dailies are infinitely more interesting to see what ops people used for them as there tends to be some variations.
>>525079Eyja's is definitely much better. Ceobe looks retarded on art, and the chibi barely looks any different.You are basically paying to look uglier and change the attack effects to water balls.
>>525127Yeah but Ceobe is retarded so it at least fits her. I agree on the chibi though.The S2 is just too boring for me, I do like how the S3 looks but I also hate the pink haze on the actual art.
They really fucked pyrite this CC. Made it so hopelessly easy both times, and it used to be a cool map.
>>524928>>ceobe coral coast is garbagetastelet
>>525271This is one of the worst skins in the entire game.>artIt's worse. The eyes are as far apart as they can be.>chibiIt looks the same.>effectsThe regular attack is changed. S1 looks the same, S2 and S3 are just palette swaps to blue.And since it "changed" the attack animations, it's an expensive 18 originum skin. The only redeeming feature is that her tail wags more, but it's almost impossible to notice, since she has even more shit in her back obstructing the view of her tail.
>>525318It's the best skin in the entire game.>Coeboe's tail wags moreGood dog
>>525322It's only good ironically, because it's so baffling bad, that there are people that are attracted to the contrarianism.
Really glad i E2'd my Robin for the pyrite gorge, no snipers no defenders no problem
>>525318I don care about that other shit but I do agree that her art is ugly.
>>523357I think f2p can actually clear the shop this time. Didn't they give out a lot of potion with that mail system during event?
How do you feel about this bear
>>524238Ah yeah by the way mate I spent 92,000 orundum getting Nian so yeah stash's fucked but eh, the whole reason I had been saving was to get her despite her mediocre unit quality.
>>525600I bet her friends were tasty.
>>525648I havent gotten her yeeeeeeeettttttttt!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAUGH
>>525677Don't worry if you don't, she's not that good. I just like her tummy.
>>525648Congrats dude. Even if she's meh I know how much you wanted her.
>>525679>100% thingma increase on craftingits true i already have pot 4 mudrock, saria and even a E2 blemishine but...
>>525680Thanks mateWould have been better to get her earlier than this much though, might just pick up some cert tickets with all the gold certs I got from that mess. Got to 276 tokens from the banner totals, guess I'll just let them convert.>>525681Just use Arene
>>525682Eh that's about right to get the 6* off a banner that you want I feel. For the medals I think it's slight more worth to buy dupes of the 5* I'd you have it at max pot?
>>525842Is the CEO going to kiss us?
>>525854Only if you play PS6 with her
>>525694Probably the worst it's been for me in one of these as far as it goes in terms of gacha. I'll have to check, but yeah I need the certs.
>>526230Lucky still then. Mudrock cost me about the same and I'm getting scared for Kelsey's banner.Do doubke check. I know ut was worth buying more Whisperains to sell for me.
>>526241Eh I gave up on that, if I get her I get her and it'll be fun but if I don't she's permanent and will show up again regardless, I'll definitely collect Ash though.I think my Hung is pot 3? Might be able to get some extras.
>>526243I'm still hoping I can get her easy. But I do get ya. Still have 120 rolls for Ash?Sounds like you should math it out to me. My 5* there was max pot so it was a easy pick.
>>526253Not even close, but eh. Tickets and such.I'll check on it later.
>>526254Ah shit eh? I belib in you man.Yeah I'm still at work so I can't do the math right now either.
>>526265Thanks mate, you tooSee you later then
>>526270So back home, clean and fed. I'm only sitting on 51 rolls and 304 yellow certs right now so I could be doing better but this is okay too.Looking buying the 5* seems only really worth if you were at at least pot 5 I think? Up to you there I feel.
this half anniversary event trailer made me really excited for it.
>>526477Quite literally the same as me now actually, I have about 60 total with the certs I just got and redeemed (as the only possible future shop 6* I could ever consider would be Bagpipe). Should be enough to get the rest next month in time for the collab unless I'm extraordinarily unlucky when it comes to getting 4*s for the cert exchanging.He was maxed and had several to spare I had forgotten to trade in. I got something like 60 gold certs from it.
>>526628Nice. I should exchange mine but I'm gonna hold off for now, I doubt there's going to be a 6* I want to buy but who knows. Good luck too man.Oh good shit then. Worthwhile trade.I gotta sleep though, have a cute Ceobe.
Why did they hold Eyja from shop? It should be her time by now right?
>>526639I felt that way too but I looked at the lineup and there really isn't anything there potentially, at least for a good year or so, maybe two. Thanks, you as well.Definitely, thanks for the suggestion, I didn't even think of it before and these would have gone to waste otherwise.I got her as one of the offbanners actually. Not going to upgrade her right away though, anyway 'night
>>526645Anon... I got her from the shop...
>>526512>no summer event since it's replaced by the collabI'm disappointed
Surtr Surtr SIurtr ohh ah ohhhhh give Surtrr Surtrrrrrrrrr pls ohhhh
>>526753Nothing can satisfy you lot anyway
Found this on twitterhttps://twitter.com/hachi_duchi/status/1418518175520419849Any idea where I can but it?I would have preferred other version but as long as there is a stand like this, I want to pick it up
>>526653Yeah that's a good point. The next one I would want to buy is Phantom and it's gonna be a while still till he's in the store.I only found out about it in passing last time anyway so it works out I'd say.Oh very nice. She's nice to have even if Eyja is generally a better pick.
>roll on new banner>I really want Surtr - but I also want to roll for Dusk, Saga and the collab in the upcoming weeks>first roll gets me Magallan, whom I didn't ownThe RNG gods have spoken. No more rolls until Dusk.
>>526956Maggie a cute. Congrats Anon.
>>526956How many rolls do you have now bro?
>>526965Not that many, I'm afraid.I do have close to 300 Distinction Certificates, so I can buy some tickets using them. I have enough Orundum for about 10 rolls at the moment.But that's life as a f2p player.
>>526836i said im excited!!!!!!!! i love popukar i dont need any other aoe guard i only need 3 star!!!!!
There is a alarming lack of squirrels in this thread
>>528245There sadly hasn't been any new decent artwork in a while. Also yknow busy with work.
>>528246I feel you shawbro I feel you
>>528268Things are hopefully going to get better soon.
Look at this cute Suzu.
So many information to be unpacked bros. Which one are you most excited for? Personally for me, it's buff Mosti.
>>529037Is there a tl;dw for that stream?
>>529039Well...>limited Sniper Chen>CN VA option>4 new operator include Ch'en>Non-gacha Equip system>New recruitment including Blaze>More skin>Buff for AOE caster>Chapter 9 in SeptemberSomething like that
>>529039STREAM SUMMARY>Summer event "Dossoles Holiday">New welfare operator: Tequila (dog boy)>New headhunting operators: Mizuki (6* Specialist), La Pluma (5* Guard)>New limited operator: Ch'en, the Holungday (6* Sniper)>Summer costumes: Mudrock, Projekt Red, Sideroca, Sussurro, Jaye>CC#6: Wild Scales>Episode 09: Stormwatch>New operators added to recruitment: Blaze, Broca, Reed, Greythroat, Ambriel>New equipment system? Shown for Summoners and Support Guards>Class buffs: AoE Casters, Duelist Guards, Wide Range Medics, Chain Casters>New Chinese voices: Amiya, Ch'en, SilverAsh, Texas>New recruitment including Broca, Blaze and 2 more.>New Anni>New operator record
>>529042>Mudrock, Red, Sussurroyes, YES, YES!!!
>>529042>New limited operator: Ch'en, the Holungday (6* Sniper)What the fuck?
>>529047It's another limited alt one. Why are you so surprised?
>>529048Didn't saw that coming
>>529050You better be ready for more of it from now on
>>529050It's looking to be the standard for new story chapter release banners and anniversary/half-anniversary ones.
>>529009>>529037I'm mostly excited to see what the module system actually is since it listed the summoners in there. Skins are nice but I'm kinda eh on Sniper Ch'en honestly, feels super off.
Actually female tourist C is the 2 of 3 limiteds per year stated(popular meme made real) .Right now cn got an extra limited banner which was the r6 one(collaboration) between the end of the chinese new year(Dusk) and the advent of the current year(anniversary).After anniversary, they reset the count announcing first skadi alter as an important operator for the world build lore and now lowlight has gone full meme with Chen which was already considered one of the worst units in china(the blue colors).So either they will announce on fall a 2.5 anni with a special banner(3rd limited(?)) or the final limited of the year will be Nian/Dusk sister/brother during chinese festival.Now cn players seems angry about the banner it self, so they might avoid doing another ros/mud type of banner and instead release a normal banner with an unit we will see on ch9.You know better than me, that chinese players being mad is 100% not okay for the gameCool thing is they are buffing unused or niche operator like Passenger, at least HG is trying to fix these problems.
>>529079CN player seem like they are excited for the banner from what I read in the stream chat.
>>529079>unused or niche*garbagePassenger was immediately maligned before he even came out and once he did he was the signal that not all 6*s of neglected classes could be as strong as what brawlers got. They better remove the asinine damage reduction on subsequent chain activations at the very least. As for AoE casters, well as Mostima's Paradox Simulation shows, they were clearly designed for specific situations that don't often happen in the game. They are the true definition of niche, as when those situations DO happen they work ridiculously well, but are mediocre most of the time in other situations
>>529079>Now cn players seems angry about the banner it selfJust because global hate it, Doesn't mean that Chinese hate it too you know? The Chinese like it.
>already use Leizi, Mostima and Skadi on a regular basis>they are getting buffsNice, I guess?
>>529079>Characters are fucking garbage>Doesn't fix them>Releases new limited versions insteadThings will only get worse from here.
>>529083>>529088Not him, but the top comments are complaining about the amount of limited operators they have been getting.
>>529218Majority of the comment I've read actually like it.
I just started playing this thing, got any tips for me?
>>529255Build a solid "core" team of 2 vanguards, 2 snipers, 2 casters, 2 defenders, 2 healers, and 2 guards. Your basic 3* operators can fill all of these roles, and you can add in whatever else you have of higher rank (you'll at least have Amiya and the 2 free 6* operators). You may also want alternatives for AoE-heavy stages.Level up your team in tandem with each other. One super strong operator generally cannot clear a stage.Don't spend originum prime on sanity or orundum. Use it for the special packs every 5 levels and any costumes you may like.Use the practice tokens to get used to a stage so you don't spend sanity on failed runs.Deployment order is very important, because ranged enemies generally attack the most recently deployed operator within their range. You want them attacking your defenders, not your casters.
I don't mind alta but God I hate Chen's alt. Looks so fucking dumb.
>>529301It just feels left field to me. I can understand DO Lava and Skadi but gun Ch'en confuses me.
>>529255You'll gain Originium, the yellow crystal thingy. It's the hardest currency to gain.There are only two things you should be spending it on: The packs in the store that gives you some resources (more packs will unlock as you level up) and skins (skins never affect gameplay in any way).Every banner has a guaranteed 5 or 6 star roll within the first 10 rolls - might be your first, might be your 10th. It's usually a good idea to roll every banner until you get your guaranteed high star unit.You get to do headhunting for new units. To be more effective you should learn what traits will result in what units. Use this site:https://aceship.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akhr.htmlDon't dismiss 3 star units once you start getting higher ranked ones. I often tend to do that myself, using a very powerful, and expensive, unit, when a cheaper more modest unit would do just fine. Many of the earlier units stay relevant for a long while.
>>529301Yeah, I don't mind alt or limited because me as f2p got free rolls so why should I be angry? But that Ch'en choice is really poor. Ch'en with water gun...really now HG? At least let her use real gun or something since she is a police after all or should've choose someone else really. Her E2 art is ugly too and I said this as a coomer.
>>529323That site is not updated anymore bro at least not the recruitment. Use another one.
>>529388It added Myrtle, and others, in the last update. Has there been anything since then?
>>529391Magallan, Vermeil and one more. Executor? I forgot.
>>529395Ah, I've completely missed that.The gamepress wiki is updated.
The only bias against the new Ch'en (besides being limited which hurts my soul) is that her E2 looks way too similar to Blaze. Other than that, more Ch'en is always appreciated.
>ch'en watergun swimsuit alt.kek, at first glance I thought it was blaze too. I'd skip but the other 6* is cute.More limited banners is annoying, feels like you should save up for them and nothing else now. But I'll still roll for Pallas.
>>530326Save for who you want. Who cares if it's limited or not. Limited gave free rolls. Why the hate?
>>530326I'm really starting to get the people that only roll on limited banners now too. I am however really wondering if we are going to see another limited in two months.
>>530398I know I'm the minority here but I hope so. I love my free rolls.
>>530418I'm hoping they don't honestly. I thought they put a limit for how many limited banners they would have a year right?
>>530421They said 3 per year before but who knows now. I'm fine either way.
>>530422Yeah with R6S CN is already at four limited this year. I'm not really fond of how this is shaping up personally. Gun Co'om doesn't really feel right and depending on how the equipment works it might get pretty shitty fast.
>>530331Biggest thing I dislike is two 6* on one banner, also if it keeps going like this a lot of the 6* roster will just be available once per year.Free rolls are the only saving grace, true.
>>530426That alt Chen E2 art is really bad ngl. I don't really get why people don't like limited banner. As f2p it's great because you get free rolls. As a whale..i can see why but i get the impression whale doesn't really care about it either. They have the money after all.>>530430Well personally i just see it as a consequence for having free rolls. As f2p I'm not gonna get every operator anyway so limited or not make no difference to me.
>>530435I just dislike the concept as a whole, why is she using supersoakers? When has it ever been mentioned that she uses guns ever? At least DO Skadi makes sense even for what we know about normal Skadi. Free rolls are nice but you can only use them on that banner that has no pity built on it and the pity doesn't actually transfer anywhere either. At best you are likely just going to get a 5* unless you are intensely lucky.Even for whales you still hit that there's two new 6*s and if you want to get the limited max pot you basically have to do it when the banner releases regardless of anything else.
>>530437Well, like i said as f2p i don't get to roll on every banner so i don't get every operator anyway. Limited banner gave me a chance to roll and I did get W and Nian with the free rolls, didn't get Ros. It's just the same as normal banner. You still need 50 pity for normal banner if you're unlucky. It's not like normal banner have greater % for 6* either.
>>530437That's why you don't roll for her bro. Use your free rolls and save your roll for other. If you hate limited banner shouldn't you be glad it's shit Ch'en so you don't have to roll?
>>530442Wait, do we have free roll with Nian banner? I can't remember.
>>530447Don't try and reason with them. 48 useless loli 6* banners are fine but try and optionally expand an existing character and everyone loses their minds.
>>530451Yeah, I actually like alter Skadi a lot. I just hate that we can't deploy both character. Like why?
>>530442It just feels kinda shitty with how quickly they are pumping them out, but I get you. At least with the standards if there's a 5* you want you can roll and get them and build up a bit of pity for a 6* eventually.>>530447I know? I don't inherently hate limited banners, they are just going fast with them I feel.>>530451Because it doesn't feel like they are expanding on Ch'ens character? DO Skadi did from the outset because singing has a lot of importance with the abyssals and it's mentioned that she's seen signing fairly often in her normal version so it's not out of place. How does gun Ch'en make any sense with what we currently know about Ch'en? It just feels like they are trying to bait coomers into rolling with her in a more skimpy version of tourist C.
>>530455If they're pumping it out often..let's say 1/month. That's mean all the previous limited will be available as spook sooner too just like how Nian/W will be.. So it's not really limited anymore right? So what's the con? I hope you get what I mean.
>>530466Currently it's 1 every two months so it's still pretty fast. Sure they can spook you, but it's still only a offbanner spook so it's nowhere near the same rate as when they first came out which will mean if you didn't get that unit the first time they came around you will likely have to save enough rolls to actually spark them the next time they are available which will keep compounding "oh no, I can't roll on anything because I need to save 300 rolls".
>>530469You can always roll on everything thanks to the free rolls.
>>530469Yeah, that's like standard banner? you save 300 rolls for the one you want. And you actually can roll on everything as opposed to standard banner thanks to free gifts. F2P can't get everything limited/not. That's always the case.
>>530469You can at least 100% spook it with 300 rolls with limited banner. You can't guarantee anything on standard banner.
>>530471You can roll 24 times on every limited banner yes. But not on everything.>>530472Yes but standards at least let you gradually build up pity if there's 5*s you want from different banners unless you get "unlucky" and get the 6* quickly.>>530474That's not a spook though, that's just sparking it.
>>530487I thought we're talking about limited/month here? so you can always roll on it. You will always get a 5* for free too there. You can build pity on limited banner with ONLY 26 rolls too. Limited doesn't affect whenever you can roll on standard banner or not. You can save your pity for limited banner too. Just roll 26 on it as opposed to 50 on standard banner. It doesn't carry over pity? Yes, but with free 5* (even 6* if you're lucky) you get everytime and 24 free pity, what more do you want? . There are only benefits. You can even spark it with 300 rolls if you're that unlucky. Can you do it on standard banner? NO.
>>530495Okay there's nothing wrong with more limited banners. I concede.
>>530498Well, I just want a discussion. Seems like I have offended you somehow. I'm sorry anon. Have a nice day!
>>530495This anon actually makes a lot of sense with limited banner somehow LMAO.
>>530495To be honest, the limiteds increasing in selection in gacha has always been a sigil of decline if they primarily released nonlimited units beforehand. Games like FEH and even Dragalia (which has always been very friendly) had a big limited spike and it impacted them negatively. I don't really care if they cough up a few free rolls on Anniversary and Collab banners, I certainly didn't get any free rolls on the Nian rerun and had to go almost all the way to spark. With a standard banner, the unit is frequently rerun throughout the year, and eventually is purchaseable in the shop. With a limited banner, you have either to get all the way to spark or you get lucky early on, and because of how HG has structured it, they've outright banned rerunning limited units until an entire year has passed. This means you either save and never roll any other banner so you can get the operator during your single yearly chance, or you just cross your fingers/spend. I don't like this, even if there is a little roll bonus/spark on it. Collab banners are a different story, as they have a much, much more reasonable 120 roll spark for the unit to offset the possibility they will not return, making it easier to get the units they offer. Plus the guaranteed 2x focus limited 5* thing as well.In short, I just don't like the increase in 300 roll limiteds and the smattering of free rolls is nice but doesn't make up for the year long rerun ban (which is certainly not standard, but is present in others at times). You can present all the numbers you want but it boils down to either never rolling anything unless it's a limited, whaling, or simply being luckier than sin. I preferred when it was just the anniversary and CNY that would introduce them, half anniversaries and chapter releases doing it now doesn't make me happy about the potential future of their unit releases.
>>530852>You can present all the numbers you want but it boils down to either never rolling anything unless it's a limited, whaling, or simply being luckier than sinSo you're not willing to discuss anything and just want your reality. You are talking as if you absolutely need 300 rolls for 6* in limited which is absolute BS. What the hell is not rerolling for anything? That mean you want a certain unit in limited banner right? Save it for then just like standard banner. You can't just want every operator in this game if you're f2p. That's impossible to achieve from the beginning even without limited banner. Event banner also only re-run every year. Normal standard banner also got even shittier rate for feature 6*.
>>530865I'm not sure why you're so upset. The numbers of rolls you listed simply do not matter, it boils down to luck like every other and the key factor is just that you only get one shot per year compared to standard nonlimited units.I certainly almost did need it, I was less than 25 rolls short of the 300. I'm not sure why you'd bring in rerolling or wanting every operator, this is just talking about limiteds. And you just repeated exactly what I said after, literally never roll any standard if you want the limited, just for different reasons, as I said it's simply because you only get one chance at it, which is true, while standards rerun throughout the year.
>>530867I'm not upset. Your reasoning are just ridiculous. Why is number of roll don't matter. What are you talking about? 24 free rolls doesn't matter to you? It matter a lot to me. I got w and nian with it. I'm sure I'm not the only one. So why number doesn't matter unless you only accepted your reality. I bringing out every operator thing because limited only re-run every year maybe like you said. So you're afraid of waiting a long time for chance to toll again right? This is just the same as standard banner. You won't always get the operator you want even if it reruns continuously (which it's not). So you're missing on a lot of operator even non limited one. Why the limited one matter so much then? I'm little sleepy now so maybe I'm unable to type my thought correctly.
>>530865>Normal standard banner also got even shittier rate for feature 6*.Is that right if you only care about the limited 6*? I assumed it's 35% since there's another 6* featured vs 50% for a single banner.And god I wish I was luckchad enough to get W and Nian with free rolls.
>>530871Ok good for you then, I didn't get Nian that way but I got Weedy with one. Ultimately it doesn't really change anything about it though, and it's only offered on the initial run of the banner so if you don't get it then oh well. I'm not disagreeing that free rolls are nice and can rarely get people the unit they want sometimes anon, you seem to be missing the point of my statements, which are>standards rerun frequently and are always in the pool>eventually standards also are offered in the shop>limiteds are one time a year and the 300 roll spark (while a very normal number for sparking) is only a last resort optionI'd also like to add that I didn't have any issue with limiteds the way they were before, as I said originally, which was CNY and Anniversary ones. What I was saying was that I dislike the direction it seems to be going in, which is adding more frequent limited banners, which has always been a sign of negative change in the various other gachas I've played for many years.And as well, I do not mind the style they use with the collab banners, it's actually the most reasonable I've ever seen a game handle them.
>>530874I'm talking about standard banner with 2 6* not event banner. Since event banner with single 6* also only rerun every year? I think some of them not even rerun yet. It's not that different from limited in that sense. Are your complaint about limited because it's 35% not 50%?
>>530880I don't know how other game handle limited so no comment on that. I just thought that AK is very fair with it. And yes it's because of free rolls again. As f2p it MATTERS A LOT to me. I can actually talk about this more but i feel like i can't correctly articulate my point right now because of my sleepyness. I just want you to know I'm not upset or anything so don't be offended anon.
>>530881Yeah, but new 6* usually get their own single banner when they're introduced unless they get added on a limited banner.So too many limited banners would get frustrating quickly for me, I'm fine with not getting all 6* but you just have to save up so much to get a good shot of getting the 6* you want off a limited banner.
>>530887Usually in a similar manner but with a sporadic monthly rerun or "special" rerun in non-matching months. They matter to me too, but I never simply count on those to get a unit, I have to plan for it. If I get one off the freebies or slightly after the freebies, then hooray, I'm having a great day, but it's usually not the case. For example, I planned for an entire year to get Nian after failing to get her. I got her, but only after 4 offbanners and over 100,000 saved orundum. That doesn't feel great, you know? And while I know every limited isn't going to be like this, and I don't care about all the future limiteds coming out (e.g. gun Ch'en and the soon-to-be-added Dusk are likely just skips for me), it still feels foreboding that more limited banners than before are coming out and potentially do have characters I want on them. It really comes down to the frequency of the banners/units, not purely just them being limited. This is also one of only two I've played with such a long restriction on banner/unit reruns for limited units. Perhaps it's good in a way as it lets you save up a lot, but it stings a great deal more when you fail as a consequence.
>>530893So let's say they changed limited to only 1 6* operator with 70% chance.. Would you still have problem with that if they run a limited banner frequently?>>530899I felt that if you only aiming for certain operator in limited banner( and bot every limited banner like you said) then save for it. You don't really need 300 pulls for most case but if you have shit luck then you can spark it. You can't do that on normal one. I run all my orundum+ticket+op(more than 300 rolls) back then on thorns's banner and i didn't get him at all. I can't even spark him. So i appreciate limited banner more on that sense. There is more reason for me beside that and free rolls but I'm going to sleep now. Thanks for the discussion anons
>>530914No, if they worked like that make every banner limited please.
>>530914Yes, that's mostly how it goes. The thing is that A) Thorns will (and has) rerun, and B) I simply roll for units I like. I skipped Thorns completely. The spark is a good last resort option, but in truth I wouldn't have gone as crazy with the rolls to begin with if I knew she was going to rerun and be in the pool normally. I would cut my losses after one pitybreaker and try next time. Eventually, most likely after many, many more reruns, she would have been purchaseable in the shop, which is what I did for Eyja and Saria instead of rolling for them at all. Anyway, have a good sleep anon.
>>530922Buying Eyja in the shop is how I got her too. Rolled on every banner she was a focus on with no luck every time. I'm expecting to get a bunch of the other standard banner 6*s through that or recruit eventually.
>>530936Yeah it seemed like a better option than rolling for her to me. They definitely will add more slowly to the shop, but they'll have a delay for a while. Recruitment is another one yeah.
>>530943I really really wanted her at the start so I kept trying to get her before the banners that had other units I wanted started appearing. Even Aak was in the store recently for CN so we know at least those units will eventually hit the store too. I'm honestly shifting towards team "only roll on limited banners" with how many keep happening, though I honestly way more on the fence about the equipment.
>>530945Yeah I feel you on that. I knew she would probably be coming in the shop so I refrained, but at the time I also just had a lot more certs anyway. I've been doing that for a while, with the occasional few tickets on certain others. Dunno about equipment, I haven't looked into the finer details of the announcements.
>>530989Yeah, she just took longer than expected really. I'm holding onto my yellow certs for now just because I'd rather be able to buy a 5/6* I really want rather than possibly missing them.I'm just very much hitting a point where it seems better to just save up for sparking just because I haven't had amazing luck for limited banners and just hope I get others I skipped along the way.For equipment all we know so far is it's only for summoners/support guards at the moment and Maggies lets her first drone in a map not consume a deploy slot. My main concern is they are going to either make it gacha for some godforsaken reason or consumable items you have to make in the base through factories.
>>530994Good idea, I've just pretty much got most of the ones I want from the potential shop candidates right now so I've put that aside at the moment. I would have been extra butthurt if I didn't get her and had less than I did after all that time so I do recommend saving your rolls, but that's just me and it might serve you better to get ones that look useful, idk.Ah. I hope they don't do that, but we'll see.
>>529345I just wish we got her OF skin. Also I wish Mudrock got a diving suit skin.
>>530997It's unlikely that any will come out between now and Kelsey but if I end up with enough yellow certs to buy the rolls and still have enough for a 5*+6* I will just nab the rolls a month before her I'm figuring.Well it's in part some of the new ones I would defiantly like as they look good but with how the seem to be doing more limiteds and kinda shitty pandering with Co'om I'm kinda concerned we are going to get a Surtr level meta defining character that's limited.The game is honestly kinda on a edge for me. I'm not fond of DO Ch'en as a concept. This gear could be really shit and if they toss another limited two months~ after this one I might just drop the game.
>>531004Ah that's a reasonable plan. I don't mind swimsuit outfits and regularly get them when they're offered in the shop (love Vigna's) but she didn't need to be a whole new unit just to cater to an old in-joke in the playerbase and the art feels kind of "off" somehow, her horns in particular. Feels unnecessary but to be honest I don't care that much about the unit itself and will likely skip, I'm more concerned like you said, it'll lead to worse stuff later on.Ah well. It'll be a shame, I enjoyed our talks. But yeah like I mentioned earlier, increases in limited unit banner releases is always something I've seen negatively affect gacha, and I'm not sure this would be different.
Apparently a lot of chinks (or most likely just a vocal minority) are angry about Ch'alt.
>>531022Yeah, just biding my time seems like the best move.I don't hate optional swimsuit outfits too, I like the looks of the new ones and the old ones were quite nice too. It does feel like we have gotten a few too many compared to other types of skins now, but they sell and it's optional so whatever. It doesn't even feel like they are trying to cater to a in joke as much as they know there's a lot of demand for "Swimsuit Ch'en" and it's possible DO Skadi did better than they expected so they think this is going to be a even bigger bump. That's really my concern too, if DO Ch'en sells even better than DO Skadi we might start only seeing DO's as the limited because money talks.That's pretty much why I'm going to wait to see how the gear looks, and if it's not bad then it will be on if they put out a new limited in two/three months I'm going to have to think about it then. This is kinda hitting along side PGR Global being a bit of a shitstorm and just being in a super meh place about games as a whole honestly.
>>531035Well it is a gacha, so it's to be expected. I thought it was because of Female Tourist C? Same as "Kevin" getting implemented as an NPC, she was an easy appeal target. But it probably will simply because summer is always just a hot period for gacha, everyone comes looking around for all the swimsuit alts and stuff, including a lot of people who quit and just come back to try rolling in summer.I don't like equipment in gacha. It's always a shitshow and needs to get fixed later or remains shit. We'll see and I'll give this the benefit of the doubt for now and assume it's not going to be as bad as the others until I see it though. What happened with PGR global? Haven't checked it out yet because I don't have any space for it. RIP though, perhaps for the best in the end if that's how you've been feeling. Got that feel with a certain other game recently.
I was reading in the general last night that this game is greedy and dying, is that true? I was thinking about getting into it.
>>531042Yerp.Well Kevin is a in joke but Tourist C is just normal demand for cute girls dressed skimpily? That's true for summer. I guess we will have to see? I sure hope it doesn't take them down a path of more coomy limiteds and skins over the really nice casual and tacticool we've had.I detest equipment in gacha too. I can put up with it for some but generally I hate it. Yeah with it dropping so soon there's no reason to do anything but sit and wait really.It's just more expensive overall with a really shitty launch "event" that resulted in them apologizing but not actually fixing any of the issues. I'm just giving them till the first major character and if they fuck that up or speed up too hard I'm just gonna drop it. It's just kinda been everything I've been looking forward to this year for games botches it in some way or ends up being really shitty to the player for varying reasons. I have like one more game I'm looking forward to this year that should be later this week and if it's shit too I dunno mang.>>531059It's just bad vibes from the limited. There's not enough to say it's turning greedy yet or dying. For playing it's up to you to decide where you draw the line for gachas.
>>531042I don't mind this equipment because according to some people on /akg/ who speak chink you get them for E2ing an operator.
>>531060C was memed about since the first run by both CN and int as far as I know. I don't mind sexy limiteds (hell, that's why I rolled Nian, although I love her personality too and characters like her) but rather lame as fuck seasonal alts, FEH made me sick to the gills of them even though some have nice art. There's a difference between Skadi's and Ch'en's and it's simply that one is some lore related parasite thing (cool) and the other is a traditional alt seasonal unit (meh).Well if>>531108 is right maybe it's not so bad. We'll see.Ah, pain. Reminds me of AK's TW launch. That sucks man, I know that feeling, it was how things went in 2019 for me. After that well, there's not a whole lot I'm interested in either really, just a few games that might not even be localized at all like Maglam Lord and some that may never exist, like Etrian Odyssey Next Stage. But hey, backlogs.
>>531165Sorry I went shopping.I guess I'm just viewing it more as people wanted the skin over just naming any falling jetpack guy kevin. I don't really consider Nian sexy honestly? Not the same as gun Ch'en at least. Sure she's dressed skimpy but her E2 gives more a badass vibe than anything I feel. I can agree with Ch'en feeling like a seasonal alt.I hope he's right but I haven't heard anything like that yet.Pain indeed. Speaking of localized at all, did you see super robot wars is actually being localized, and not one of the all original cast ones? Backlogs yeah, but haven't been feeling like playing anything there either honestly.
>>531231Nian has a nice timmy and a cool outfit so it works for me, but yeah not quite the same as Ch'en 2 (whose art, again, looks "off" somehow, I'm not sure why because I do like Ch'en but this doesn't look right. Idk). Ah, SRW is getting a localization? I'll have to check that. I've got some stuff I've been meaning to finish, including the other paths of Devil Survivor 2 RB.
>>531237>timmy*tummy. Who the fuck is timmyAnyway also forgot to mention that this is the first "silly weapon" unit, which is also a turning point I've seen in many games, but at least outfits already did that, like Vigna's speared fish.
>>531237Yeah it fits her character, we know she's likely not what she appears so armor is likely meaningless for her. I can agree her E2 looks off, she really looks like Blaze for some reason.It is yeah. Should be SRW 30? I have some stuff I should finish but no motivation to do it.>>531239That's true and a good point. Outfits are fine I feel for silly weapons and being fairly coomy since it's a choice to use them.
>>531242Well so is Dusk and she dresses properly, so Nian's just hot and picked that look herself, as she's corporeal enough to drag the doc on shopping trips to pick up stuff she wants. And well you know the whole metal smelting, spices, heat themed everything and seal, etc. means it's probably intentional but whatever, it fits her personality and she's pretty.And yeah, damn she does. Weird. I've not played them before although I've seen much of them in webms and such, they seem to vary a lot. Same here I've just been watching videos and dreading writing my honours thesis in a few months. Makes it hard to enjoy things while planning it out and I wish I could have picked something more immediately useful, etc. etc. etc but I digress. The water gun just reminds me of the first time I saw Winter Tharja in FEH lol. For reference her weapon a candelabra and she's wearing a bikini but is termed to be an Armored Tome unit. Same feel.
>>531249Yeah exactly, It fits her character.It's been kinda memed around.Yeah I'm gonna wait to see if SRW 30 is good and likely catch it on sale. I don't really have anything past the 12 hr days going on. Just not motivated at all so sadness. Good luck on your thesis though man.I looked her up and yeah I can agree. It's the same sorta issue as Schwarz where she just sticks out amongst the base skins where they all wear relatively normal clothing.
>>531257I'll have to go look some of that up.I'll keep an eye on that as well. Good luck man, hopefully things get better, also thanks. Schwarz is a sniper at least though, wielding a massive heavy duty piercing crossbow. Her outfit is sexy but in-line with the place she was introduced (Siesta, a temperate resort area) and her profession (a bodyguard who isn't meant to take hits or technically be seen when she's not attacking), so I never really batted an eye there even though it's sort of the same. Winter Tharja wasn't the first unit with a silly weapon, but she was the first to have a huge disconnect with her class role (i.e. she's considered armored but is in as little covering as possible in a game where every armored before her looked pretty normal for a heavily armored knight class, which is what she's supposed to be gameplay-wise and her stats reflect this, as she is a slow unit with high defenses and a skill based around being attacked and retaliating for big damage).
>>531262Cheers.It's bothered me lightly but as you say there's enough overall justification for it that I'm generally okay with it.Yeah I can see that disconnect being a major issue. I guess this is just another annoyance with the character. I really am hoping that I'm wrong.
>>531278Well yeah, it's that she makes sense in-universe. Not that Ch'en wearing a swimsuit wouldn't considering she has been seen on vacation, but it'd make more sense as an outfit instead. Idk, it's hard to articulate what I wish to say about her overall in the end.About that disconnect, it's not really thought about much nowadays because there's hundreds of seasonal alts now and they've done everything from just making characters randomly float to be "fliers" to making rabbit-morphers into "cavalry" because they can move faster. It's mostly about the context of when she was released that's similar here, as they were among the first to provoke this kind of reaction among the players. People didn't care much about the guy wielding a big carrot because he was still on a horse and his atk was horrible to reflect his shit appearance, people never really made a fuss about "magic eggs" replacing tomes on certain easter units, but WTharja was at the time, the most humorous "armored" and set the tone for many future seasonal armors.
>>531286Maybe it's because for Ch'en going from E0 to E2 removes clothes and puts her in a more "sexy" pose while Schwarz doesn't lose any clothes on promotion and while you could argue her pose is maybe "sexy" as well as a whole it's more of a action pose?Ah makes sense then. I can understand the comparison and the concern stemming from that then,
>>531291Eh I wouldn't really care about that part, it is a swimsuit after all, which Schwarz isn't wearing. It's more about it feeling out of place in a way, not because of the pose though. Perhaps the weapon? Boomstick water gun? Idk. Yeah that's an example of what I was meaning earlier. Alternatively games often just have "fest" banners, or whatever variant thereof, and when alts get out of hand these become the only things worth bothering with or at least a way better deal overall for rolls, such as Fever Festivals in Crash Fever or Gala Banners in Dragalia, or whatever the hell those banners were called in Dx2 with the alt art units that just slapped Kaneko's version in instead of the Doi ones, or vice versa (although those are not seasonal alts and perform differently).
>>531298Just trying to spitball ideas I guess. Maybe it's that Ch'en has always come off too serious for something as "playful" as this? I still have issues with the whole.. using a gun thing since it's so out of left field.Yeah I'm sorta worried we are somehow gonna see something in the fall that fits the seasonal theme and is suddenly another limited or a collab. We really do just have to wait but man I do not have high hopes right now.Also here's a thing I was thinking of when talking about people kinda memeing about it, trying to continue the usual "give a picture before I go pass out thing"
>>531302The horns definitely did immediately make me think they look decidedly different than normal, that's a good pic. Ch'en being a severe, humorless woman in the story has been joked about in-game by Hoshiguma being surprised about her doing normal girl things like clothes shopping, but dressing attractively isn't that big a deal considering her CNY outfit. Gun's weird though for a close combat specialist, I guess not for a policewoman though, so more about the context.Well we are going to Victoria so there's going to be less burned out husks of Russian buildings and terror attack survivors recounting their trauma as a natural consequence of the setting change, but the trailer for the next story arc makes me feel confident that the main story will still be cool stuff and silly side events will remain as they are as well. The only real thing to watch for is like you said, the limited units. Collabs are collabs, they never really need to match a game's aesthetic. Things like Battle Cats (a humor-oriented, very kid-friendly TD game) collabing with Evangelion will always exist.'night
How to be efficient at chip farming bros? Should I convert them? Also about T2 of green shop, Should I buy permit or material?
The problem with CN now is that they had 4 limited banners in a row, 5 if you count now summer.Before the end of the new year for China :- Ancient Forge Retrospection (rerun because of the backslash with the original nian banner run) - Hidden Moon (Dusk 70% Nian 30%)- Rainbow Six (which was already being teased months prior, so chinese were aware and ready)New Year(Anniversary) ~ Deep Drown Lament (Skadi TCH + W) 1° limited of 2021~ Summer event (Ch'en forma de tirador) 2° limited of the yearSince HG said before that they are trying to keep new limiteds around three per year, last year they "kept" their promise with two exceptions being the rerun of AF and R6. I can see why CN is not happy, because they got those banners in a row, with little time between them to save enough. About Ch'en is an argument that is being still debated both here and on reddit, where doomposters are still bringin in the case of FGO. The case of Lava and Skadi, didn't make that much of a "noise",from the words of Lowlight both Purgatory and Skadi TCH were important to the whole wolrd building, especially Skadi and her connection with the event it self. Now its not really the case for Ch'en, but they did the same trick as a Lava, future Lava was something cn fans were asking because she became famous the first time on AF. Same thing for Ch'en, which was being memed on over and over, since Lowlight is a memelord himself, this was something some players could "expect". Since DO are a different archetype from their original counterpart, one of the rules of their existence when Skadi was announced on Anni, was "ok we see why people are not using skadi with a different archetype you can try new and different tactics". If you follow the CN forums, both Skadi and Chen are memed as the moody blues, because their pick rate is low and they are considered by CN metaslaves out of meta and bad.
>>531353Now this does not fix the fact that DOs should be something people will strive for, lets be real.But since this game is a gacha, if you know the rules(and so do i) there will be almost always a business perspective under it. Also events are planned months prior(both skadi and chen were planned before being teased). As some anons said, there are few periods of time where, gacha can pump up monetization, summer on of it. But if you take in account how this game makes limited balanced instead of being broken (if you did play GBF you understand), there will be no issue with them, 2020 was a year for CN players where HG fucked up the "balance" releasing powerhouse operators such as Thorns/Mudrock/Surtr.Which were regular units and not limited.
>>531345I don't bother converting them usually because I tend to use them later, but sometimes I do just because I'm impatient. Ultimately it comes down to if you want to repeat the process later when you need the chips for the class you didn't want back then or you just need to prioritize units now and it'll be more worth it to convert chips so you can clear stuff now rather than later.I collect the headhunting permits and recruitment permits if I can but it's not always possible every month to get them from T2.
>>531355I don't see much complaints about the limiteds being powercreep titans but rather just that they're really popular/desirable characters people want and can't really save up for despite only being able to try for them on their debut.
Please say something nice about my wife.
Anyway it seems Chapter 9 will be released soon as summer event is done, so there are some speculation that there will be non special banner and the next limited will likely be on CNY as usual.
>>531308Actually yeah her horns are weirdly straight up there. I know but we still haven't story wise haven a mostly playful Ch'en so I dunno there. It's weird even for police considering the setting. We know it's hard as fuck to use guns in general and that the most non angels can handle is single shot pistols, almost everyone else uses crossbows or other forms of slow single shot weaponry.Yeah that's fine it's more a concern of a "fall" themed limited unit somehow. Collabs are collabs but they are still likely to be limited as well so.
>>531237SRW for the past couple of years had been getting English versions. 30 is just the first one to actually come to the western market (via Steam) instead of just getting released in the SEA region.
CEO carrying case
>>531694Does SRW play like FE or some other grid based game? I always feel like people talk about SRW as it's own genre. What game it resemble as?
>>531831Pretty much. SRW isn't terribly complex unless you're trying to get all SR points on your first playthrough. Most of the fun i just seeing all the series interact with each other.
Can you play Arknights with one hand? Asking for a friend.
>>529255Don't fall for shitty cash grabThis game peaked 2 years ago and has been in decline since then
>>531944It's tower defense with waifus, so far I like it, but I'll drop it the moment they try to force me to buy shit.
God look at how flat she is.
>>531921I play it with a mouse so yeah
Are these units you can only get during that banner? Is that why people are so upset?Sounds like I missed alot if so. But it also sounds like they are "powercreeping" so this doesn't matter?Really confusing desu I'm brainlet.
>>531574Yeah, just looks wrong. She's able to relax a lot more now that Koshchey is dealt with and her sister's not trying to burn down the city, so maybe, but I feel like it's just part of one of those summer event stories where other characters goad her into it. Guns are also usable by Sarkaz such as W or Meteorite (who alternatively wields one in her hazard set outfit) and Ch'en is a Lung (rare and powerful race) who wields a legendary sword paired with an equally famed Sarkaz arts blade, so it's not a huge stretch. Sankta wield the big automatic ones and the shotguns, but even Catapult has a gun technically (it's a grenade attachment for one she's wielding as a standalone weapon, but I digress). Eh yeah that might be bad, we'll see. And yeah but I consider them different just because of how they handle units, which is less annoying than regular limiteds.>>531694Ah I see, thanks. I'll just look up ROMS or something then.
>>532292The Ch'en alt is only available during that banner yeah. The limited units are never really gamebreaking or powercreeping really, they're just hard to get and are often of popular and story-important characters like W or Rosmontis, or as of late in CN, alts of existing 6*s with full live2D animation on their art. Chinese New Year limiteds are effectively the same as Zodiac units in other gacha, barring the powerlevel.In short you're not going to be hurting if you miss the limited but they're desired for reasons other than power. The most powerful units are all permanent ones like Surtr, Thorns, Mudrock, Eyjafjalla, etc.
>>532302Maybe but story wise that hasn't actually happened yet. If this was after ch 9 that featured Ch'en relaxing and saying she was going to take a long deserved vacation or something then maybe.Everyone can use basic single shot guns but it's incredibly expensive for the ammo so I'm pretty sure we still see most characters, even police just use things like crossbows or grenade launchers. Even Meteorite's weapon is technically a crossbow. The thing is her using such amazing blades is part of why the gun seems so weird to me. She's trained so much just to barely use these swords at the end of this chapter, why would she not keep using them?We will have to see yeah. event limiteds are easier to get but are even more "hord till limited" since there's even less of a chance for them to come by again.
>>532323I mean, she's already a visitor to Siesta with a normal girl's beach gear, so she does evidently take vacations even if it was originally just a cameo. It's not about the ammo (and even if it was, Jessica's engraved rounds are probably the only ultra expensive rounds considering grenade launchers and pistols are everywhere. It's the Laterano legal restrictions that prevent people from buying or learning to use them, all of W's guns were illegal and assumedly so is her ammunition, and there's a Sarkaz black market for guns which indicates that they're regular users of it. Meteorite I'm talking about her costume that came out alongside the hazardous waste ones, she's wielding a scrapped real life grenade launcher called an XM25 CDTE instead of her crossbow. Catapult's weapon is a rifle attachment, and W carries an assault rifle on her hip.She's using the gun because it's a goofy seasonal alt.
>>532334True. Unno.Combo yeah. Hard to get guns, hard to train in them and the ammo is incredibly expensive on top of all of that. I wasn't aware of the Sarkaz black market but that does make sense.True on Cataplut but it's still a single shot weapon. I'm pretty sure it was stated in DM that W can't actually use that gun and just carries it because she likes it?That's honestly the most likely reason.
>>532342It is mentioned somewhere in a story involving W, maybe it was Darknights? I'm not sure. Or maybe it was actually the furniture descriptions for her hideout set. I have no idea, Darknights is a bit of a blur for me except the parts involving Theresa.Pretty much, just like the stuff we were talking about yesterday. And yeah I feel you on the hoard till limited thing for event limiteds, which is coincidentally exactly what I do usually. It's a bummer to miss them unless the game's like Dragalia and they cement in that they'll definitely have reruns of certain banners like the FE collab (which is rare in other games so I won't hold my breath, especially for a collab with a prissy company like ubishit).
>>532349I want to say it was darknights but I'm not 100% there either.Ah, it's all good really. It's a blur for me too now.Yeah it just doesn't feel super great. Not that we can really do much at this point I guess?
>>532359Someday I'll probably find it. I forgot a lot of stuff from the events, except Students of Ursus, which is probably my favorite story-wise.Pretty much, just hope it doesn't go down the cycle others have done.
>>532373I find I generally remember the general beats of a story, enough that re-reading isn't that fun but not well enough to be able to confidently talk about some of them without re-reading. A lot of stuff just generally blends together too.Yerp. That's my hope too. All we can do is wait really since it's like a week away.
I want Skalter so badly bros. Is it true it's coming in 2 months time instead of Dec/Jan?
>>532897Very unlikely I feel.
Some changes to Summer Ch'en face are coming it seems. I think it's way better than the original, but the overall hair positioning still feels a lot like Blaze.
>>532897Ia assume global gets a limited banner per month now.
>>532897The schedule indeed got a boost and right now we are facing the same "drama" CN is having with the limited banners in a row.Is it possible that we will get A Walk in The Dust and Under the Tides before anni? Possible.Real talk? Yes and No, what is happening right now is the same thing we faced last year when they released Ancient Forge.It is possible, but at the same time, they can shuffle the events like they did one year ago, meaning we might get either cc5 early/Pallas/Carnelian early, same reasons we got ToW/ChildrenOfUrsus/CC.It will sound strange to have an anniversary event before anniversary after all
>>532308Man I hate this "one time only and then you are screwed" shit. Any games that DONT do this?
>>533281Eh I don't think you're really that screwed. Sure they are overpowered but it's not like you can't do a stage without them.
Should I continue paying attention to the story and the whole setting if I started recently?
>>533331Up to you, really. I really enjoy the main story, but I've been skipping some of the side story plots and just did the levels. It wouldn't be so bad if some of the cutscenes didn't last for over 15 minutes.
>>533414Is it really that long bro or you're exaggerating it?
>>534085Not him, but earlier chapters and events have a reasonable amount of story. Newer ones are really fucking long and has sitcom-tier writing.I just skip and read the resume.
>>534085AK may have an interesting setting but the story writing can be extremely atrocious at times, a lot of character interactions are basically just them throwing a long ass monologues after calling each other names.
>>534402>>534450And who is fucking responsible for that? Fucking Lowlight? If it was him then my gut instinct is right after all. He is no good.
>>534499For the writing? I'm not sure. But the game is definitely suffering from his lack of management. Instead of investing the money the game is getting into the game, he is investing in stupid shit like his own clothing brand and factories, and other garbage that is not the game itself.This last event was a turning point for a lot of players, and I hope the backlash will make him remember that if his game isn't excellent, people will just play another game.
>>534499I wonder what the chinks think of the writing or is this translation thing?
>>533281>any gacha/mobile games that don't run limited bannersNo.At best there's games like Battle Cats but those still have collabs.
>>534596Afaik, the CN isn't much better, but it's definitely better, since it doesn't have shitty translators running the shit through google translate and then proofreading once.And I really mean it. During Wolumonde event, there was untranslated stuff left in it.
God she's so flat.
God she's so nutty
>>535620I'm sure Shaw is flat as fuck too, but I'm okay with pretty much any Shaw because she's so cute!
>>535639I seen some art where she has a decent sized chest but we may never know her actual size
>>535653Unless she gets another skin or she's in a story event with non-work clothes. That's really the thing her outfits ought to be decently baggy and thick so who knows if she has anything there at all.
>>535659its the current mystery like who we didnt know if gravel was flat or not
>>535666I honestly never actually thought that Gravel was flat, but I did think it was funny to promote. Would be nice if we could find out eh?
>>535668we will one day my bro one day
>>535677I sure hope so.Though my current main hope is a Scene skin.
>save up a lot on JP account for dusk (EN one I abandoned after I didn't get nian on that one)>fuck up and have to deinstall app>don't have any login details only screenshots of 6* I gotI'm such a fucking retard.
Wtf the server is down, my sanity is capped. Why would they do this right on reset? Why can't they keep the same standard maintenance time?
>>536136So I'm not the only person that got blindsided by this fucking maintenance they didn't announce in-game. All I got was the game telling me Nian's banner was available despite it having closed already. Fucking translation team does less translating than it does breaking shit.
>>536012You're too smol brain for this game to begin with.
>Saga from free rollsthanks.
got dusk off the free 10 ticket as a birthday present... happy birthday asbestos
>>536407>>536428Grats.I got Nothing. geddit?
>>536431ooo i do get it. congrats anon!! i hope you enjoy
>Only Dusk after 130 rolls.I fucking hate dual banners.
who is lavas nemesis she talks about in her recruitment quote?
>>536407>>536428Grats. 11 free rolls got me Nothing, four star dupes and the usual 55+% of 3 stars.>>536446Read her operator files. It's her sister.
>>536460oh wtf, i didnt expect that. well thank you very much
does anyone know the bgm that plays while talking to the storyteller in the village with Nothing?
270 rolls for Saga,4 off banner dupes and 2 DuskAbsolutely garbage gacha system. Why is the off banner chance so high in the first place?
So is Nothing nothing more than a 4 second stun for >10DP that requires you to deploy him 4 seconds early somewhere that prevents him from attacking things? Can we get a rarity shuffle? He is worse than Yato. Take 3 stars from him and give them to Jaye and Myrtle or so.
>almost guaranteed clusters on boss missiongood shit.
>Want to take a break from Arknights>Anniversary events yield a bunch of useful shit.fuuuuck.
>20 rolls no 6*well I already expected that much.
I can't get a 6 star but I can have new lava
>>536591>>536655Plenty of days left with free rolls each day.
>>536711more Nothing, yay!
dusk in 60 pullsn i c enow to wait till R6S collab comes because i want ash and her operator friends
>>536655are you going to elite 2 her? i cant decide if i want to or not
>131 rolls to get bothNot bad. It could have been worse.
>>536711I don't expect anything honestly, my gacha luck has been horrible as of late and I had to use a ridiculous amount of rolls for Nian.
>>536790Ah, my people. Let us see what the free rolls will give us. Maybe we'll hit 60% three stars!>>536762I loved Ancient Forge Lava, and instantly wanted her as skin or something. Behold, a year later, insta-E2, even though aoe casters are almost universally shit.
>>536803i just elite 2'd dusk so i cant elite 2 lava yet but do you think lava has a fun skill set? for me its just more about the enjoyment of using the unit rather than them being super strong so im curious if the fire ring is cool
>>536803I'm sorry my friendApparently she either sensed her friend or I reverse-jinxed myself, which is nice. Regardless, hooray, and good luck
>>536812The skill set is so-so. It mostly looks nice. It does what it needs to do to make a wellfare aoe caster not feel awful. But it needs its overlapping aoes and its massive duration, which is really map dependent whether you can set that up or not, to be good damage. It's like Mostima's operator record stage, it will shine on a map specifically designed to maximize the exploitation of that 3 tile-of-death corridor. I just E2'd her because, I've not actually E2'd any basic aoe caster. I left Mostima at E1 max level and regular Lava has always met my needs in that rare case where Beeswax wasn't the right choice. Dusk will get you much, much, much more than Lava the Purgatory will ever be able to do for you.>>536822Grats man, I hope you enjoy painting enemies to death with a greatsword. Nian showed up in my only 10 roll last year, so pretty much any other operator is batting against that. If she shows up, I'll raise her to be with her sister. But I mostly sniperknights lite anyway.
Not even rolling on this banner. The operators are eh upgrades and we have good banners coming.
131 rolls for her, in the inbetween, Dusk + 3 dupes and Shining. I don't even know what I'm going to do with Shining, since I have been since the beginning of the game with Silence + Ptilosis.But hungry doggo came home, so everything is ok
>>536933Shining? She gives a nice passive defense boost regardless of which skill she uses, and the S3 has bulk application for surviving a boss wave.
>>536991Yeah, I guess it's a little more of survivability? In comparison to Ptilopsis at least. I guess it's just I would have preferred something like Nightingale which has the decoy mechanic. I unfortunately don't see myself E2ing her until end of month at least, while I finish Dusk. I have to see if I want to E2 Eunectes or her, since I think neither of them actually give me anything new, and Eunectes has been waiting for a while.
>>536997If you haven't been hurting in CC I'd say to just go with whoever you like the most really. I know I'm working on Scwarz just because I've had her for over a year now and still haven't invested in her.
>>537021That's what I have been doing mostly. E2'ed last week since she was the one I liked the most from what I had. It's always fun to use this type of units when doing the easy parts of the events.
>>537023Yeah that is honestly part of why I'm upgrading her too. It never hurts to have more options for how to deal with something.
>>536711I'm not that hopeful..
3 Mr. Nothings and a Dusk in 31 rolls, hot damn.
>>536997Shining is still an upgrade over Silence (she just heals), but Eunectes definitely brings a niche to the table, she's very gimmicky. I personally got spooked by her during the Surtr banner and have been using her ever since, she's really fun to use on bosses or to relieve pressure on lanes with minibosses
I just got Dusk but what's wrong with her personality? All of her voice lines sound so bitchy.
>>537182She is a class A whiny little bitchIts why I was mad I got her instead of Sagafucking useless trash piece of shit AoE caster whose worth is worth then the goddamn dirt
>>537187Such a shame. I like her skill set and design but she has horrible personality. I like Nian but she just isn't good at tanking and is much harder to use than Dusk
>>53710711 free rolls and 3 Nothing. So I'm bound for Dusk soon?
Two Dusks in 60 rolls, kind of want to roll more just to roll after saving up so long and for Saga but since limited banners might keep coming so often it feels like I should stop here.
>>537182She's one of the defeated gods, and as far as I understood, most likely one of the gods that were actually killed, but she managed to paint herself before dying, so she's alive as long as she doesn't wake up.She doesn't really understands what causes people to wake up from the painting world, and because of that, she is afraid of simply ceasing to exist if she accidentally wakes up. This made her become even more bratty and resisting than she was before. Saga being able to wake up twice in such a short time made her realize that the status quo might not be for the best, and gives in to Nian's plan of joining RI.
>>537202>I like Nian but she just isn't good at tankingWhat makes you say she's not good at tanking? She's not self-sufficient like the more recent broken stuff like Mudrock, but she's a very consistent tank. S2 lets her comfortably tank the Nearl event hammer knight even at skill level 7. I'd kill for her talent to get a buff so she can regain up to 1 shield if she doesn't take damage for 6 seconds though.>>537177>Silence (she just heals),Her drone makes her much more universal on top of being cheaper to raise. I'll stick to Perfumer over that stupid four-eyed criminal though.>>537241May you be blessed, anon.
>>537177>>537400 Flexibility with her drone and being able to in a pinch heal a really far unit was one of the reasons I have been using her so much. I have been lately swapping her with Warfarin, but I still love very much her drone.
>>537380i have such a hard time understanding what the story is trying to tell me sometimes im glad to see you write that up here
Both dusk and nian are implied to be part of the Traitor God.The story goes like that:>True Lung(The First Dragon) is both an eternal(same race as Kauschey) and the first emperor of Lung>He loved his kin and tried to help them going into a journey finding the gods of Yen.>He found a god hiding into a mountain, he then asked for his help to convince the gods that the humans need their help.>This god being a messenger and a god at the same time, said "nah the gods dont give a shit about your kin">The First Emperor then, decided to wage war against the gods themselves with the help of the god that acted as messenger, for the love of his country. >The god that helped the first emperor was labeled as the traitor god.>They win the war and most of the gods of Yen either got killed or go into hiding using their seed to keep the bloodline alive.>After few years the First Emperor meets again with the Traitor God.>He decided that the TD needs to bow to him>Broke the TD in 12 pieces, The Nians that would work for Yen.It is implied that Nian and Dusk are part of the Traitor God because if they awake their inner hatred they would become whole again as the TD, which would later wage war against Yen.>Nian feels the anger of god trought her veins>Dusk choosed to become a neet so that she can avoid awaking>their brothers and sisters are divided>Some of them are loyal to Nian(and Yen)>Some of them does not care about Yen at all>Some others are litteraly crazy fucks that will likely create chaos in the futureThats the main huge lore dump we got from the event, every each of the Nians power comes from china folklore itself. https://gamepress.gg/arknights/lore/arknights-lore-new-year-beasts-nian
>>537508Honestly it would be nice if the story could have said all of this without all the obtuse faggotry. This event was kind of awful.
>>537400I have Hoshi and Nian is terrible compared to her. Nothin can beat Hoshi 20% avoidance, not to mention godly def stat. I always try to use my favorite operators despite them not being meta like Archetto and Rosa, but Nian just needs to much support to work
>>537508That article is reaching too far. Tao Tie is rarely considered part a kin of dragon. The 9 kins of dragon are very famous and I have never heard of the other 3 being included in. HG will need some hard asspull to group them together
>>537514This event was known to be one of the most problematic events to translate up to date, it was hell even for chinese themselves and translators for cn gaijins
>>537520I guess they are using them more as reference.Nian has the attribute of earth and can create things out of her "throat" , mostly metals and things that people never have seen before(mostly things from the past) Dusk seems to have the attribute of water(the moon) and has the power to bend reality itself thanks to her sword being a brush.All this references to folklore or old stories is a reason why i think the game is good, i can understand people getting filtered by this event story, yet i found it less painful to understand as many others claimed.Maybe the last part about the True Lung and the Traitor God made me mistake that the nians were part of the first and not the latter.
>>537508Only Dusk is in risk of "awaking", since she is herself, painted. That was explicitly said during one of the last story pieces, and she is afraid of waking up.iirc, the last theory in the CN was that Kal'tsit was an eternal too, and used the coffin thingy to ressurrect Doctor (You) that is presumed to be the traitor god.And as far as we know, the abyssals are dealing with shit in much greater proportions than a simple squabble among deities. So another theory is that Kal'tsit wants to wrap up this drama quickly so that we can join forces to fight against the abyssal shit that is going to surface soon(TM).A lot of the story is based on chinese folklore and myths, but I wouldn't go as far as canonizing stuff that wasn't mentioned. That gamepress article really wants to sell its own theory.
>>522654Hellagur? more like Hellagay!
We all know the best defender is gummy
>>529255what is your tag? I started playing not too long ago as well
>>537508>impliedStory implies too much, I know lowlight loves his foreshadowing but this kind of stuff goes too heavy handed on it and is one of the reasons people say Arknights is poorly written despite the cool world it's set in. I appreciate the summary but I will likely forget this because I'd rather just think of Nian as the bratty spicy food girl and Dusk as someone who isn't constantly at risk of fading away.
>>537540Got spooked by that faggot. Thakfully I had a lot saved for Saga.
>>537644Just think of Nian as the bratty spicy food girl that is trying to assemble the avengers.And this is all part of a bigger Kal'tits plan to assemble a bigger group of avengers.
>>537649Yeah but doesn't it amount more to summoning galactus or some shit like that? I'm not really super knowledgeable about capeshit but that's more what it seemed like
>>537661That is just theorycrafting. We don't know why she is assembling the avengers yet.
>>537516I disagree that Nian is terrible compared to Hoshi. Yes, completely ignoring damage cannot be beat, but Hoshi does so unreliably, great while it works until it doesn't. While Nian guarantees the first 3 damage instances do absolutely nothing before needing to rely on her bulk. Before skills, Hoshi only has 34 DEF over Nian, while having 900 less health. Nian and Hoshi will need about the same (healing) support in a given situation.>>537553No cap, if I can avoid using Saria while needing a melee healer, E1 max Gummy is my jam. Girl carries a freaking vault door.
>>537516>Nothin can beat Hoshi 20% avoidanceCroissant can get up to 46% avoidance with her S1. And she will also grant half of that to adjacent allies. Without to mention S2 working as both as push with huge force and a 4sec stun.
>>537514>>537527i still really enjoyed the event just some ways of them talking made me confused. a lot of people praise the music in the game as a whole but i had yet to find tracks that i really enjoyed until this event. i guess its all just subjective reasons that i like it but regardless i wouldnt say i think its a terrible event. dusks skills look really awesome as well and i like the aak skin
>>537703benefactor benefactor ablee blee bloo bloo water reflection sun moon unfinished painting pee pee poo poo
>>537720really hated it that much huh that sucks
>>537703I skipped the event story, not because I dislike them but because I wanted to use these sanity potions that are going to expire soon. Can always read it from the event archive.
>>537827Which is pretty great since a lot of the stories are lengthy with cutscenes I had to skip the jail break ones and watch them all after I was done with the stages
>>537834Yeah I like the event archive. I skipped the jail break ones too even though I adore Robin, because I really would rather read them all in one go anyway.
>>537703Event is fine, I play this for the gameplay and the music was good as well, didn't even read the plot far as it didn't have the fun angle that Nian's did despite having Lavadult.I don't like the Aak skin though, it looks creepy. Hung's looks much more visually appealing and is unexpectedly high quality, although I only bought Nian's.
Tuye is cool as fuck, I don't have much of a reason to use her but the effects are really neat and her art is great.
>>537861I got all of them, Aak being a creep is fine in the full art but the portrait shots are a bit much yeah.
Stupidly useful unit, the crab being completely free to deploy is what sold her on me the most.
>>537827can relate. seeing this red 13 hours remain warning at the bottom of my home screen gives me a little bit of anxiety. ill grind out my potions for you anon. >>537861i play for the gameplay too. i didn't pay much attention to the world stuff until i was reading posts from anons here scattered over the past few months that made it seem more interesting and while i still wouldnt say i am really knowledgeable about it, i like to read trust archives about operators i enjoy using at the very least. or reading events i like the aesthetic of like this one. how does the lava change work? is this event a time skip into the future? or has lava just canonically grown into that form where they are in the story now? >skins i think he looks creepy as well, but i like it because i think its fitting for him personally. also the effects when himself and another are buffed is really pretty to me. and i like the way his gun and darts look. i wish i liked hung, his skin is probably my favourite one of them all but i just cant justify spending on it since i know ill never use him>>537912i love her too. i love her design with the yellow rain coat and umbrella and the audio for her abilities and auto healing is just so perfect, shes one of my favourite medics for sure. even if she doesnt do anything that crazy
>>537997thanks bro, make sure to pick up all the stuff from the first tier of the shop
>>537997> is this event a time skip into the future? Yeah, we don't know how far, but it's mentioned that Lava has gotten more experience on RI and it's implied that something happened to Beagle and Fang beforehand.
>>538033Basically every event unless it's explicitly stated is some time in the future.
>>537981It looks like that's gonna be common for other summoners later on.Magallan gets to summon a unit for free, and it seems like other units gets something similar.
>>538047It's only the first unit of the map though, so while it's going to change some initial deployment use for her it's not actually gonna be that big of a impact I feel.
>>538047Yeah but this is specifically for a vanguard that wants to get other stuff out fast
>>538033>>538034huh, i didnt know that. thats scary i hope beagle and fang are okay. i just assumed all of this was happening in a normal timeline i didnt realise it has these kind of time skips. glad to learn that
>>538047what does this mean?
>>538054There's a new gear system. It's starting with all the summoners and support guards. There's info up on weibo and the gist I got from it is it's mostly from E2ing the op but they are also adding in a item to the weekly/maybe daily? missions for unlocking the modules too. You do need to actually own them to unlock the module so I'm unsure if you can borrow a unit with a particular module or not.
>>538051Chapter 0-8 take place over about 2 weeks. Darknight's Memoir is basically the first thing that happened as far as events on global are concerned. Then a chunk of time passes with Babel being a thing, which changes into Rhodes Island when some major shit begins, then chapter 0-8, eventually Twilight of Wolumonde -> Grani and the Knight's Treasure -> Heart of Surging Flame -> Gavial Returns with the other events strewn about around the place as Rhodes Island travels across the world.
God, it's not fair. Just gives us the future versions of the opteam 1.
>>538111Do note that's what I could understand through google translate. It's not gonna be perfectly accurate and I haven't see a translation of it yet.My two main concerns is they put out a ton or ones that take multiple of the items to unlock and that you won't be able to borrow a unit with a particular module.
>>538066That's pretty much the same from what I gathered. Modules unlock at E2, costs a new item you get from weekly missions/red vouchers shop plus some other mats. It's basically a minor form of buffing operators that also allows for customization in the future.>>538114Beagle's skin...>>538120>My two main concerns is they put out a tonI think they first want to give most or all operators at least 1 module before moving on to even more options. That way people will waste resources on the first batch of modules and then on the second batch etc>you won't be able to borrow a unit with a particular module.This would piss off CN again.
>>538138Ah good to know others got about the same gist that I did from it.Oh I'm sure they are going to do that too, but when they start out with two whole subclasses first for modules I can see them clearing that pretty quick.Honestly seems like game companies are on a run for pissing people off right now.
>>538142>Honestly seems like game companies are on a run for pissing people off right now.Not really hard to do. Just go a tiny bit too far with doing the capitalistic thing of maximizing profit, and you'll end up with people getting pissed off about every (minor) annoyance and seeming transgression. It's the same reason why people tend to hate DRM, it too often impacts legal customers significantly.
>>538148True true. I guess it just feels like we are in the section where these companies think you can cash goodwill in for money and not have a issue.
>>538114whens future popukar
Put Mostima in shop reee
>>538410She's literally next
>>538414I'm bad at being patient.
Welp, shop reset and I could buy some new tickets.30 pulls and I got another Nothing and Saga - still no Dusk though.
So the next banner is finally Mostima? Is it true?
>>538772Yeah. I hope the buffs for her and dusk turn out good.
Kelsey is cute! Cute!!
>>538772Mostima was like 3 banners ago and is like 18 months old.
>>538843I wish ""new"" stuff hit the shop earlier. Always seeing the same stuff from the normal banners is boring.
i heard from a friend that they are making a lot more limited units now a days compared to how they used to is that true? i enjoy the not do limited time focus of arknights so thats disappointing to hear
>>538890Anon limited units are like a year old and there's only been 4 of them how could there possibly be a trend?
>>538890People are worried about the future because of bikini chen.
>>538787I highly doubt the buffs will be anything other than +ATK and increased splash area or things in that vein. With just that tier of buffs, they would need to change a lot of the attributes to solve the problems.>>538890They made the mistake of doing a collaboration and saying they will only do 3 limited operators per year. CN is throwing a fit due to the new alt operator being little more than fanservice gacha in a game that they pride as not being "fanservice gacha". So every possible thing gets brought up to complain about to try to overwhelm the devs.
>>538890They introduced alter versions of normal characters, which now gives them excuse to release nonsensical limited like bikini Chen. People are worrying if this will become a new trend later.
>>538890CN is complaining about the amount of limited operators being released in such a short amount of time. But there is more to that, since many of smaller complaints are surfacing too, like the wait between chapters, the missing pink hairdresser, putting mini events and reruns back to back, reducing of the amount of rolls to spark, and their lack of positioning regarding gacha practices.>>538903>CN is throwing a fit due to the new alt operator being little more than fanservice gacha in a game that they pride as not being "fanservice gacha".What are you talking about? Arknights has blatant fanservice, it even has the "Mild Sexual Content and Nudity" tag.>>538906>forgetting lavalterThey even made new UI elements for alter operators together with lavalter. And that was further confirmed with Skalter. We all knew that alters were coming a long ass time ago. Their biggest complain about bikini chen was that it didn't look like chen, it looked like blaze, they complained so much about it that they had to make some changes on her face.
Which stage should I farm bros?
>2 5*>ayerscape>mayerNot even Nothing. Holy fuck
>>539178Nothing is kind of shit to be honest (and completely superceded by Jaye), you got a better deal with those two.
>>539188Nah I was just commenting on how lucklet I am
>>539190ah I seehow many rolls for that?
>>53919930ish I think?
>>539079R6 collab has a pretty good pity system that should have been the norm, fuck HG for going back to the crappy 300 rolls spark afterward.
>>539293idk why but i kinda agreemakes the gacha WAY more forgiving with that
Assume I have every 6* Guard in the game but only at 1-2 potential. Who do I spend my Royal Guard tokens on?
>>539079>What are you talking about? Arknights has blatant fanservice, it even has the "Mild Sexual Content and Nudity" tag.I'm talking about the idiotic rivalry CN has with other games. Ch'alter is the first unit to come out of the bag in a swimsuit. >>forgetting lavalterI don't think they did, anon.>Their biggest complain about bikini chen was that it didn't look like chen, it looked like blazeWow, two female anime characters both with long, black hair look alike? Say it ain't so. There were some perceived issues with anatomy as well. At first glance Ch'alter is nothing alike Skalter and Lavalter.>>539293They shouldn't ever have done a collab. Collabs almost never work in games, they are either hamfisted in there, and/or cause issues down the line.>>539174WR-8, don't forget this week's Annihilation.>>539363The one you use that would benefit from -1DP. Or hang onto them for a future operator. Pallas.
Mostima brosPassenger bros..
>>539437Well that's in line with what I expected them to do.
>>539414The anon was saying that CN were revolted about alters becoming a trend, when it was already a trend, and no one (including CN) really had a problem with it, since it's very commons for gachas to do that. I remember some initial backlash from lavalter, but it died down pretty quickly, and people were actually hyped with skalter.And there are several ways to make Chen not look like Blaze, every other instance where she appeared(including the 3D model) it was instantly recognizable as Chen, and no one confused it with Blaze.There were some CN theories saying that Bikini Chen was a reused Portrait for the Bikini Blaze skin that was supposed to launch with Gavial Returns. This would explain why Blaze was missing her skin during the event, even though all the others who appeared in new clothing all got their skins.
>>539437This is in line with what I was expecting. Making bigger changes would give space for more problems to appear. What I want to know is how much they changed those stats.
They cant really push those things further, because unless we talk about CC everything is being balanced out for 3/4/5/*.Im curious about the removed damage penalty for leizi and passenger
>>539453There's no way they outright removed it as they would have to change Leizi's S2.
>>539455Oh yeah, my bad i meant the lowered damage reduction from trait
>>539466I'm going to put my bet down now: It's going to go to 15%
>>539440>The anon was saying that CN were revolted about alters becoming a trend>nonsensical limited like bikini ChenAnon, please, they're not bitching about alters being a thing, even though there are enough people who from the start were against alters in any form other than Lavalter. They're kneejerk bitching about the newest alter not being cool and mysterious like Skalter with how she ties into the Abyssal lore, and not a welfare operator upgrade like Lavalter who showed up a year prior. On top of all the other excuses gathered to be louder.>there are several ways to make Chen not look like BlazeI'm still doubtful anyone ever honestly mistook Ch'alter for Blaze.>some CN theories saying that Bikini Chen was a reused Portrait for the Bikini Blaze skin pic related, Blaze wasn't going to get a bikini skin. It's the same argument they used when Tourist C wasn't released as a skin.>>539437>increased arts resistanceAh yes, people who used wide range medics for their 5% magic resistance are ecstatic. It was expected, but I'm still sad that they didn't just swap the chain caster trait to increase damage per bounce instead of reduce. Just add Absinthe's lowest HP% targetting and done, they have a niche.
>>539437How salty will CN be when Passenger is still bottom tier?
>>539478>They're kneejerk bitching about the newest alter not being cool and mysteriousI have yet to read this as a bigger voice on a CN forum. This sounds more like a personal opinion to me, I think even the CN players have grown from this "crawling in my skin" edgy operators.>pic relatedWhat does it disproves? Both Tourist C and biker C has Chen head copy and pasted, it doesn't have new art. Bikini Blaze appeared on the PV together with a bunch of others, and Blaze was the only one to not get the skin. And Silverash, who did not appear on the PV got a skin instead. It's perfectly reasonable that they forgot to add something for the fujos and decided to do the swap last minute. Think about it, Gavial, Tomimi, Eunectes, Aciddrop, Croissant, Ceobe, Utage, on top of the coral coast skins for Sora, Ifrit, Vigna, Skadi, Provence and Platinum. Thorns was about to be released, but he wasn't part of the main event, so if they rerun the event, they would have to time it with a new male operator every time, otherwise fujos would get nothing.Etiher way, people were disappointed, and I imagine that's why the Blaze ambience skin is similar to her summer one.
>>539478>I'm still doubtful anyone ever honestly mistook Ch'alter for Blaze.While I didn't mistake her for Blaze, a bit hard when there's Ch'en plastered all over the character, her original art sure as hell did make her look like Blaze.
>>539491I don't think anyone was expeting major changes, even to Passenger.
>>539363The one with the lowest cost that you regularly use or deploy early in a fight. For example, Mountain would benefit a lot from extra tokens, but SilverAsh would benefit slightly less. Blaze would gain a larger benefit than say, Ch'en as she's deployed early to activate her S2 sooner. Hellagur is contextual. If you use him a lot for CC, he will benefit more, but otherwise he benefits less thanks to rarely being needed for early lane holding or redeployment on average maps.Same for Ch'en. If you use her for a quick S2 blast then retreat her immediately for later redeployment, she will benefit more from the tokens than if you're keeping her on the field for her passive SP boosting talent (which is arguably more useful in many scenarios).
>>539505Anon up here >>531353 mentioned it as well. It's one of the arguments I've seen being used despite the event's story not being released yet.>Bikini Blaze appeared on the PV Got a link? I don't remember Blaze having a bikini skin announced.>Gavial, TomimiGavial doesn't have a bikini skin either though? Tomimi only got hers announced recently. I think I misunderstand the point you're trying to make here.>>539506I'll grant you that. But then I wonder why there wasn't as much noise about Blaze's skin giving her Ch'en's ponytail. Must be it being messier.
>>539532Being messy for sure. I also think for gun ch'en the position of the face is too close to how Blaze's is and they both share a lot of the same features like how their eyelashes are.
>>539453It's time to balance everything around 5-6*. Fuck 3-4*. Fuck newfags.
>>539437>increased HP/AtkGreat for duelist guards, that's literally their entire purpose (especially Matoimaru, who has ridiculously high HP, and Melantha, who has enormous atk). Not going to do a ton for the AoE casters. They already have huge atk stats for arts, they needed an ASPD buff, not HP/Atk. It'll help for some, like Gitano, but less for ones like Skyfire.>increased wide range heal, atk/res buffedFine, really Ceylon was the only shit one that made people malign wide range healers. They're always there to grant status resistance as a sub in for normal ST healers and Whisperain is already pretty good so she will enjoy the better healing on her fringe ranges.>lower damage reduction jumping, extended bind, atk buffEr, well the first one is by far the most important. Hopefully it's reduced by a LOT less because as it is sequential jumps rarely connect properly and when they do they do fuck all for damage or hindering the crowds. Atk buff will be nice for Passenger considering he hits like a wet noodle and can't even kill a Possessed Junkman without his lightning strikes on them. Bind effect on chain casters is barely noticeable as is, perhaps they'll make it useful this time. The slow ASPD won't do them any favors though.Overall, duelist guards benefited the most from this. They got more of what they already are useful for, although it most likely won't be a huge buff number-wise. Flamebringer will still be shit.Wide range healers got much of the same, and Ceylon will still be useless in all likelihood, while Whisperain will still be good and Purestream will still be "ok" overall.Chain casters will need to have the numbers on their buffs revealed before they can be properly judged. AoE casters got a very minor buff unless that atk buff is astronomical, which is will not be.
>>539534Yeah, looking at Blaze E0 the pose is similar, being mirrored. It's quite a generic action pose, guns akimbo (literally), camera looking up, Ch'en just has her trademark frown where Blaze is all smiles.>>539537They would need to make 5*s actually stronger than 4*s then. Shirayuki can do 800DPS aoe magic damage, on top of her physical damage, and slow, with a 50% uptime. Meanwhile Leizi...
Which is the most efficient stage for grindan?I assume the orirock one is worse than 1-7 as usual.
I like how he's now now expanded into making mini-maggies.
>>539699Oh I love this guy's art.
>>539716It's really great.
>>539721I have so many of his pictures in my favorites section. There's also a bunch that I can only find on image aggregator sites that are nice too.
>>539638Yes. WR-8 is god's gift of alloys. WR-9 is good polyester, but it's polyester, you could very easily argue to use all your sanity on alloy instead.>>539699Oh my, Magaloli's a cute.
>>539722If it's NSFW stuff check his other twitter where he posts that stuff. I didn't realize he had a separate one till recently too.>>539723Maggie is very cute no matter how big or small she is.
>>539723I guess I'll spend on alloys for the rest of the event then, I was super low on polypacks so I picked up enough to get to 70, I've got about 60 alloys so I think I can get a sizeable amount by the end of the event and pick up a few more polypacks.>>539724A separate one? I don't use twitter so I'll go have a look, I was just looking at pixiv and other sites. Very cute skateboarder.
>>539725I really don't use twitter much either but it's handy because a lot of artist only post stuff on twitter and maybe once a month gather that stuff up and post it elsewhere.It's a total pain in the ass to find anything of a particular character though.This is his other twitter: https://twitter.com/El0SSQbVGkE6xBO
>>539727Ah, thank you
>>539730If you read the chain you can see I linked one of their twitters already.
>>539731I didn't notice until after, and I couldn't delete the post because lol time limit.
>>539732That's okay, have more flat Sussurro.
>>539747She's very cute isn't she?
>>539724Yes. She cute.>>539725A thing you could do is look up what you need for (upcoming) operators you're trying to get and farm based on that. Alloy being the newer materials means it'll show up more in the recipes for the latest materials.>>539733>>539749yesyesyesyesyyesyesyesyesyesyesyes
>>539751I'm pretty much out of more Sussurros sadly.
>>539752It's a new skin, we'll get more art with time.
>>539756Oh I know.
I can't break Snake's shield for medal? How do i kill it then?
>>539772Which medal, the one for the final stage?
>>539779The one that say can't break Free's (snake) shield. Forgot the name.
>>539751I only have one operator who needs alloys as far as I know, and I think 60 is enough for any one future one I'm looking forward to, but it's always good to have more.
>>539780We don't even have that stage yet.
>>539782Yeah but how do i kill it without breaking it's shield?
>>539783It only puts up its shield for the massive attack. Kill it in the downtime.
>>539772Let the shield expire and kill it after it triggers the big explosion and nukes your field? Specter may help.
>>539784>>539786Huh? I don't even know the shield will disappear on it's own? Fuck me.
>>539790I personally had the opposite. The first time I saw the mob the infobox talked about a shield, but I saw no shield when it spawned. So while dealing with other stuff on the map suddenly shit blew up.
>>539790Yeah what it's basically asking you to do is to either>kill it VERY fast (under 30 seconds), before it activates the shield>survive getting your field wiped and kill it after it removes the shield to perform said wipe>kill it from far enough away that it does not use the shield to begin with (3 tile range for the shield attack, so it's nearly impossible to do this)That's the reason it's a challenge medal.
>>539795Does the second form reset the shield cool down time if i managed to kill the first form under 30 sec?
>>539795>40000 health>800 def>55 res>10 weight>3 tile rangeRosa and Suzuran say hi.>>539798No shield in second phase. Unless my killteam destroyed that too fast and I forgot.
>>539798I'm not sure if it's using the level 0 or level 1 stats for the EX stage outside of CM, but yeah it should basically treat it as refreshing the unit and it'll use it 40 seconds after reviving (60 at L0).The shield also reactivates after 70 seconds, with the first use of it beginning 30 seconds (50 at L0) upon spawning.
>>539799It's less that and more that you have a defensive line to keep going and if it wanders too close it'll trigger it regardless of how far away Rosa is or how slow it's moving. It's basically a kill aura.
>>539532>Got a link? I don't remember Blaze having a bikini skin announced.It wasn't announced, it's just a theory that says that Blaze's skin got swapped last minute by Silverash summer skin.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFFDMbF53IsNotice that both Croissant and Ceobe's skin that was featured in the banner together with Silverash are there in the pv, but silverash is nowhere on the video, why? Is silverash not important enough to be in the pv? And if Blaze is important to the story and was shown with new clothes, why was it not a skin?That isn't a new theory, it was made when Gavial Returns first appeared, and at the time, they thought that it was because that there was absolutely nothing in it for the fujo players.The theory just surfaced again because Bikini Chen looks a lot like Blaze, and the new theory is that the artist is reusing a sketch/art that was meant for Blaze. Tbh, I think that if he reused something, it was a very early sketch version, since there was a lot he would have to change, and be retarded enough to not change things like the hair.
>>539842Okay, so you are talking about what I expected. The ol' crackpottery. That's the animation PV for the story of the event, it's scenes of the story animated, not the everything that gets added with that update. The image you posted is promotional material for the new skins available for a limited time, no Utage skin, no Gavial or Blaze story appearance.>but silverash is nowhere on the video, why? Is silverash not important enough to be in the pv? SilverAsh doesn't appear in that story, so he does not appear in the PV.>if Blaze is important to the story and was shown with new clothes, why was it not a skin?Blaze was only there to introduce a reason for Flint to join Rhodes Island, that's all her purpose was. Gavial was more important, the literal person the entire story is about, what happened to who and what she left behind. She also appears in a swimsuit during the PV, and on the promotional work for the story, but did not get an in-game swimsuit skin. But that seems to be left out of the crackpot theory. Even Lancet-2 is more important than Blaze in the story.>The theory just surfaced again because Bikini Chen looks a lot like Blaze, and the new theory is that the artist is reusing a sketch/art that was meant for Blaze.That's farfetched nonsense. The art "looks a lot [alike]" since the two characters are both anime waifus with long black hair drawn by the same artist. That, and the fact that a lot of things are left on the cutting floor, there's no reason to dig up sketches for one character when making a sketch for another character. You just have generic study sketches for that.Doesn't Spot have like 4 different appearances shown to the public already? One's just a T-shirt texture, but one was an announced skin that disappeared. There is abundant material on the cutting floor.
>>539860>SilverAsh doesn't appear in that story, so he does not appear in the PV.That was never the point. The point is why would he get a skin with promotional material showing off skin from the story and pv when there are characters from that same event and pv that appeared with a different skin? You say as if the banner and the pv have nothing in common, when the only thing it doesn't have in common is silverash.>Blaze was only there to introduce a reason for Flint to join Rhodes Island, that's all her purpose was.More important than Silverash, who didn't even appear.>GavialIt could have also been Gavial skin instead of silverash. It would make a lot more sense, but I mentioned Blaze because of the bikini chen thing.>Lancet-2Did not appear with a different skin.>since the two characters are both anime waifus with long black hair drawn by the same artistDo you have problems telling Chen and Blaze apart normally? If not, then it shows that two characters with that description can look different enough for one to not look a lot like the other.
>>539860>That's farfetched nonsense.You gotta explain why do you think that reusing old unused sketches is "farfatched nonsense". Reusing/copying stuff happens all the time in the art industry.I never took this theory seriously, because it literally doesn't matter, but the more you say, the more I'm inclined to think it may be true, since there aren't arguments that proves that it isn't.
>>539870>You say as if the banner and the pv have nothing in common, when the only thing it doesn't have in common is silverash....Compare it to our current event's PV. No Aak, Hung or Whisperain to be seen, but they got a skin anyway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8LdfZ6A_IOr the one that originated the Tourist C and swimsuit Amiya memes, they didn't get those as skins.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCF6rMee-iQOr Code of Brawl, ever see Firewatch or Jessica in the animation PV? They got skins released during this event.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfBBEoJ_e4A>More important than Silverash, who didn't even appear.>It could have also been Gavial skin instead of silverash. It would make a lot more sense, but I mentioned Blaze because of the bikini chen thing.>Did not appear with a different skin.It's almost as if story importance does not guarantee who gets a skin and who does not.Please understand that the theories you're passing along are grasping at straws just to have more things to complain about and pressure the dev team.>>539878>You gotta explain why do you think that reusing old unused sketches is "farfatched nonsense". Reusing/copying stuff happens all the time in the art industry.I mentioned some of that at the end, generic study sketches. The farfetched part is the claim that it was based on a sketch specifically made for Blaze in a swimsuit. Ch'en has been put in a swimsuit before, the sketches for that probably included her with a variety of hairstyles like loose as in Ch'alter, or pinned up as in Tourist C. It wouldn't surprise me if Blaze is based on concept art of Ch'en, or even the other way around depending on which character was concepted earlier. Or not at all. The crackpottery however operates on zero-sum game "we don't get X because they used it for Y" logic. There's a whole list of demands that 'community' put out in response to Ch'alter's announcement.
>>539945Jesus christ. The theory is dumb, but your attempts are refusing it are even dumber.Look at the heart of surging flame, the only event from the ones you listed that actually have a banner of skins that are from the event. Do you notice anything here? All of them appear on the PV.
>>539958Yeah, not doing much effort on it besides grabbing other animation PVs for comparison. That's mostly the point, the animation PVs are just animated scenes from whatever the event's story is. If said story happens to involve the characters that get new skins, great they show up, if not, they just don't show up. The regular event PVs do show all these separate things.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ1qvqEmkVQI'll go fuck off now and crash into a bed. Anon be well.
>>539842If only Ceobe's skin actually looked that decent.
are you able to log in with your global account on japanese servers? or are they separate?
>>540020Separate. Daily reset time on japanese server is a few hours earlier than global server.
Gun Ch'en's L2D from the files.
>>540093Looks fine, the angle on the gun is cool. Very stiff chest jiggle though, stingy.I like that the parrots move.
>>540101It just feels cheap with how short it is compared to how dynamic her pose is especially when they were designing the art for l2d. Compare to Nian's for her E2 art that wasn't designed for l2d to begin with.
>>540105Hot damn that looks cool, I didn't remember that old limiteds were getting L2D updates. Dragon tears a little though. Much more personality in the action.
>>540093We're getting L2D? About fucking time.
>>540120We got it with the first limited alt character. Every limited since is getting l2d and all limited before will retroactively get l2d as well.
>>539469Hello I am here to collect my bet winnings.
Everytime a game gets a update this big, people from other generals comes to that thread, doomposting, shitposting etc.Same shit happened when skadi alter/Kal'tsit got revealed, people flooding with how Kal'tsit was Lowlight OC so it must be broken as hell. Now look ch'en s3 does a lot of damage, ayeeee unbalanced game reee must doompost.Who the hell cares if CN are angry, you know that their community is a jungle were the weak should fear the strong.Even that poor soul of 25th night is forcing himself to read the most shitty comments on the event or absurd request.
>>540132These buffs seem as inconsequential as the brawler buffs. The medic boost is ok though.
>>540105Oh fuck, Nian keeps getting better and better.
>>540132>not even 10% increase in most casesWow, it's nothing. Only chain-casters got an actual buff. Their slows were so weak that it not even existing wouldn't make a difference(since they have 2.3s attack time), but 0.5s is more noticeable, it's closer to the 0.8s sluggish from supporters like suzuran.I guess it's better buffing bit by bit, instead of doing a lot all at once, since they can't nerf them later.
>>540152>The medic boost is ok though.I don't think it even made a difference. If you weren't using it before, you aren't going to use them now.
>>540132Weren't they supposed to get unique equipment?
>>540313The 10% increase to wide range healing helps them not be completely neutered at the edge of their range, might be ok for some maps with limited deployment tiles.
>>540316If 70% of the healing wasn't enough before to keep an operator alive, 80% is hardly going to be enough. I don't think this buff opens any significant amount of new possibilities, nor will make people who didn't use them before, consider them now.Same with AoE and Brawler buffs. People aren't going to use them now because they got a 60 damage increase, especially AoE casters, since that damage increase is spread thinner because of their 2.9s attack speed.
>>540323You'd be surprised, it helps against persistent damage sources like in Annihilation 3 a little more than you'd expect for helping squishy units like BP. Super niche, but still more than the others. It's just a better overall bonus than the tiny ass 70 hp buff that some units received.
>>540132I wasn't expecting much, but this is nothing. I at least hoped that they would reduce the attack speed for AoE casters, since they are some of the most expensive operators in the entire game, yet, they are so slow to attack, that single casters can attack twice in that same amount of time.
>>540326This is how the previous operator class buffs went too, you should have expected nothing.They have this weird vision for AoE casters that they'll be worth the DP for stages that don't really exist. See Mostima's Paradox Simulation if you want an amusing display of what she's supposed to do.
>>540325>it helps against persistent damage sourcesYou are talking about Whiperain passive ability and S2, not the meager 49 extra hp she will heal once every blue moon, considering she has so many targets to heal, and her attack speed is 2.85s.
>>540331That's why I used BP as an example due to her HP being terrible. She barely survives two hits from the ballistae. I'm not trying to paint this as some sort of insane buff for the class but rather that their inherent drawback will be less noticeable than it was before. Whisperain's good anyways, people just maligned the class archetype thanks to the sole member (Ceylon, one of the first welfares from back in the era of units like Flamebringer being given out) being dogshit before it got a second member, and Purestream was out of the running for a long time thanks to not being possible for F2P to get until recruitment updated.
>>540337>BP as an exampleIt doesn't matter. The problem of your example is that you are talking about something that wasn't changed. If you swap Whisperain for Ceylon or Purestream, BP is going to die the same, before or after the buffs.The medic boost will be unnoticeable, just like the AoE and Brawler buffs.
>>540341It's because she will only heal them once, making it so she can heal a second unit without needing to heal BP twice. Swap in any sniper with dogshit HP.I don't think it'll be as bad as the AoE and Brawler raw stat buffs. Overall it makes them slightly more comparable to a regular ST healer.
>>540346>It's because she will only heal them once, making it so she can heal a second unit without needing to heal BP twiceBullshit, you didn't even do the math. The crossbow deals 600 damage, so before they needed to heal twice (301/309/326), and now she still needs to heal twice(363/374/393). It literally didn't make a difference in this case scenario.For them to actually only need to heal once instead of twice in this case, they would need an actual 100% buff for purestream, and a 90% buff for Whisperain(if you don't count in her passive heal, if you count that in, she only needs a 40% buff).
>>540359>needNever said anything about that. It's so she only heals BP once then heals a different unit due to healing priority. Might only work with my setup because I stick her near Gummy, and they alternate.
>>540362>if I use Gummy to heal, then Whisperain only heals onceHow this has anything to do with the buffs? Did you actually forgot that we were talking about the buffs?
>>540365Right now she heals BP twice, meaning I need to retreat and redeploy another unit getting neglected by her as Gummy basically wastes her heal. Changing Whisperain's heal priority with a slight buff would avoid this. I guess this is more of a personal niche problem but it's the part of my auto that irritates me right now even though I could probably redo it with my new Ptilopsis and be smoother.
>>540372This is a very contrived way of saying that the buffs won't make a difference. There are so many variables that makes a healer change targets that it is wrong to say that it works for "any sniper with dogshit HP". It literally only works in your very specific situation(specific healer, specific healer defender, specific sniper, specific anything else within the healer range with specific levels on each of them, and in very specific moments in very specific stages), and even then, I believe that you are making this shit up, since it would take an absurd coincidence for someone to notice that.You are giving such extreme specific situations that happens never ever that you could use the same argument to excuse a single hp buff on skadi.
>>540093Pretty nice. The purple watertank on the gun is odd, but that's going to happen when pointing that thing at the camera. Rubber ducky is glorious.>>540105My girl. You're as beautiful as ever.>>540315Eventually. The first modules are for the summoners and the support guards.
>>540407I mean we can agree to disagree here I guess, don't believe me if you don't want to but I'm not wasting more sanity going to 300 kills or so when I've filled this week's meter already. I like the buff for the medics and find the smaller reduction useful because I use Whisperain a lot. The Res is also good.
CEO gliding your way
>>540408why do you continue to evade me nian
>>540574She decides when she wants to.>>540132>Matoi gets 200 HP>Conviction memecritting for 500 more damage>Melantha gets 700 ATK without trust>Castle-3 hit the gym and has more ATK than TequilaYeaaah boi, that's what I've been waiting for!>Ceylon got buffed for 1 ATK more than WhisperainPoor girl, the penalty for being welfare is strong with her.>Chain-casters still don't have an attack time leaning more towards single target castersGiving them +Atk does nothing, they should cause the head of the last unit in the chain to explode with their skills, not the first. We have Eyja and Amiya for that.
>>540703i wish youd open your heart to me nian!!
>>540703If they gave chain caster's Archetto's bounce targeting they would become a hell of a lot better as it stands one of their major issues is how garbage their targeting works.
>>540715i just did the gamepress gacha simulator and it took me 6000 dollars worth of rolls to get nian, maybe it just wasnt meant to be
>>540822>gamepressUse the better simulator. http://prts.wiki/w/%E5%AF%BB%E8%AE%BF%E6%A8%A1%E6%8B%9F/%E5%9C%B0%E7%94%9F%E4%BA%94%E9%87%91_%E5%A4%8D%E5%88%BB
>>540829whats differeent about the simulators?
I forgot about my free rolls the past several days.
>>541080anon... there there...
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