why the fuck does everything costs moneyprevious thread >>1247019
first for fire affinity down
>>1276347Give up.
>>1276340Demeter! I love Demeter!
>>1276347fifth for fire affinity UP
I HATE Batlle Tower
>>12763477th for anti-bulwark pierce
Wild instinct (+EoF+6th sense) or life surge for Maria?
>>1276849I missed the registration deadline this week, and I'd rather get my ass kicked in there but leave with my 150 consolation gems
>>1276853Life Surge. If you already have 6th sense survivor and EoF wild Instinct is a bit redundant, plus Life Surge helps with your HP just in case you fight someone that only uses magic demons.
>>1276867that's not how it works, if you didnt register you don't show up i believe (and you get no rewards)
So close....Those are 50 gems less.
jesus christ my battle tower group is pure fucking cancer
>>1276851it'll happen and work like repel pierce for alilat and all the rest.
>>1276900you can still go down, a lot of player get their points right before it ends
>>1276907I love pixie
>>1276910I still have a few points just in case, but the two dudes below me failed to defeat my defense, so I'll probably be okay.
I just realized that this aura gate event would have been an excellent idea to burn through some of my talk tomes...
>>1277049Haven't used the tomes in years
>>1276340Mermaid is my wife.
>>1276899you may be a dumdum or maybe I haven't expressed myself very well (I'm ESL)
>>1277118>once had first place>now not even in top 10It's forever over for me.
>>1277267You can do it man, nevah give up!I think mine is around the top 5 or something like that. At first I did it as a joke, but nowadays I use her for stuff like kiwami or farming brands. She is very cute.
Newfag here, is this game worth getting into? I really like smt and the demon designs, smt 4 is my favorite game.
>>1277339no
>>1277339Absolutely not, unless you're either willing to throw a ton of money into this or restart constantly so you can grab the new demons, because PvP is basically all this game is now.
>>1277339No, unless you really like the pvp mode.
https://app.famitsu.com/20230906_2125663/Deity Apsu!>Passive Skill: Drop of BeginningIce Pierce. +100% Crit Rate. +50% Battle Speed.At start of first turn, grants Lydia to all allies.While alive, grants +1 MP recovery to all allies.While in Lydia, all status ailments will be removed and -20% damage received.When an ally including self defeats a demon, gain +1 press turn (only once per turn).>Active Skill: Primordial Roaring. 6MP.300 POW Ice damage to 1 foe. If successful, decreases enemy Atk/Def/Eva for 1 turn.Ignores Endure skills.
>>1277496He looks very simple for a 2023 demon, but also interesting. A shame that it doesn't have Ice affinity decrease, bur he will be very good when that demon eventually drops. His good aura is really good (heh).
>>1277496good speedy demon, if you don’t have one already
>>1277496Putting Lydia synergy on a speedy demon is a weird design choice
5* lineup got changed across the board i think? even for superior files? archangels+echidna+ladon
>>1277645They did the same for Anahita and Bulwark.>>1277663Scroll down, there's more but since there's no Tenma, it's actually not that good.
they should bring back the immune to ailments handicap
>>1277663https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096244.htmlneat, i guess
>you need 30 millions MAG for herokado
>Apsu doesnt Pierce BulwarkWhy?
>>1277663From what I understand is only for the Gem summon, that shit one, and nothing else. We will see tomorrow because if they changed it for everything that's really good. No more Thor, fafnir or hresvelger in the 6th step.
>>1277916Everything in the standard gem summon is in (almost) every other banner too. Apsu's banner has all of the newly added demons
>>1278002>Apsu's banner has all of the newly added demonsThis is true - https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096238.html
>>1278014>Echidna>Ladon>Vairocana>Atavakaaside from Xi and Maya (for compendiumfags) I don't think this lineup is that impressive...they should have added everything up to Arioch imo and limit all the fodder to fusion only
>>1278002I see, that's very nice. >>1278017I'm surprised they didn't include the Hallel demons considering there is no easy way to get them now that their banner is never returning. At least the angels are here now, and the sisters are in the subjugation summon, but there is no way to get Ose and Flauros Hallel.
>>1277496>be better than Lugh in every way>cost 100 tomes lesswhat did $EGA mean by this?
>>1277496>Lydia countered by a shitty snake no one uses
>>1278190Apsu is just a "win more" demon.Lugh is nigh-mandatory for brand farming unless you think your time isn't worth much.And I will roll for neither.
even with a talk tome these faggot ass mitama wont talk to me
>>1278509Ground them to dust, that will teach 'em
>>1278509Kind of surprised we still don't have Conversation skills, if just to help grab Mitamas.
>finished chagrin's questlinebros...i kinda felt something...
Apsu's out. I got jumpscared by Vairocana not once but twice in the new pool.
>New event is about Apsu cucking TiamatLolLmao even
>>1278886Calling it now, the ending will be Apsu dying and Tiamat planning to do the same thing he was, but with Kingu (one of their sons) as her husband like in the Enuma Elish.
>new demons were not added to summon files
Took me 2 hours to whittle 3500 brands down to 1200God I hate inventory management
>>1278919I just sell anything below 6* that doesnt have atk/matk/HP %.
>>1278946i just sell anything that isn't a 6* brand
Very funny. I'm not dealing with this bullshit for a genome
>>1278997>bulwark pierce fractional damageI was just thinking about this being the official EOS skill the other week. Glad to see they have it ready.
>>1278997>demecucks
>>1278997It's easy bro
>>1278997>when enemy gains a Bulwark>applies equally to Demeter as it does to fucking Anahita or some year 1 shitter's p4hurr durr durrr almost like getting 25% of max hp as a bulwark every time anyone is hit was a retarded move
>>1279040How do you avoid your team getting charmed and nuked before Lakshmi's turn?
>herokado's MP gain is party wideAngra is even more useless now. How the mighty have fallen...
Goddayumn the new demons are dogshite
>>1279090Good, chance to save some gems for the next broken shit that singlehandedly dedines the meta
>>1279092They didn't make them this bad last year.Even Sabaoth had some usage %Lugh and Apsu are yet another 0% usage demons
>>1279068I didn't even put barriers on everyone because they could tank it anyway
>>1279106Oh, that change a lot of things then.
any tips on the new kiwami for someone who don't have deme
goofy ass stage. they have around 40k speed.>Lanling activates Zenith for damage output>Apsu cockblocks Tiamat with Lydia's ailment invulnerability, +1 press turn>Zeus did most of the damage with Zenith elec weakness Keraunos, making the most of it was the difference between failed attempts and this one. +1 press turn was essential, enemy turn elec attack was insurance>Ladon just eats Lydia to get rid of the insane damage resistanceWish I had Longinus instead of Ladon.
>>1279121Show demons. If you have enough power you can cheese it with Zeus and Odin.
Why is the meta so fucking fast
>>1279315be thankful, slow meta is even more cancerous
>blue ball + demeter + D lakshmi>my 01 was hitting for 600 damage at best holy shit
>>1279319You're not wrong but I'm mad because if I make my team any faster I have no way of killing the cookie cutter slow team
>>1279439someone mentioned to me last thread, and i completely agree, that the kind of shit you have to do to beat that kind of slow team is so excruciating and expensive as fuck you just have to bite the bullet and accept you cant do shit against that kind of cancer
>>1279121I did it with my t1 team (Zuus,Pajeet,Asta) + uberpixie with silent prayer.
i think chi you is a nifty demon
huang long gaming deaddoes this mean i beat the game
>>1279525and my brute force teamgriffith had zero brands or panels and was only there to zenith chi you lol
>>1279447You can beat those teams if their brands are mid. If their brands are godly tho you are pretty much fucked
>>1279127how the fuck are you people beating this im barely getting a turn in and not doing any damage
>>1279764Use ladon
>>1279469He is really cool. It's nice that some people are using him in their offense party alongside hachiman and pol, really funny team.
>>1279800i aint got him
how do i make a demon good? what are good demons? why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?
>>1279891>how do i make a demon goodmax out their skill levels (if they increase damage) ((or do other things depending on the demon))get them good brandsgood skill transferspanels (this is the hardest)>what are good demons? depends on what you need, when you start, and what you already havewiki has a decent tier list if a bit out of date>why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?pvp is fucked so if you arent completely geared to tank hits you will be raped
>>1279893demons i currently use. everyone but astaroth feels so extremely weak, even if i load them up with big brands. how much of a difference does infusion make? i don't have much sin or the other essence so I've only done it on a few demons.
>>1279905you honestly have a pretty great set of demons all things considered, not perfect but certainly good10th+maria alone would be a great def team>how much of a difference does infusion make?infusions help a good amount, but less than brands and panels, you can get a fuck ton of sin RIGHT NOW doing tokyo abyss>everyone but astaroth feels so extremely weakat LEAST your odin should be strong too, what brands are you running on him?
>Herokado is using Kuyo Flash instead of Rending Fire for DemocalypseBravo SEGA
I been sick as a dog and just now realized Demo is going on, did I miss a day?
>>1280086nah still day 1
>>1279891>>1279905post brands
>>1279891>why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?Uh? Do you mean Phys Defense? Unsurprisingly that doesn't work that well just because the other fuckers are running 2000+ phys atk. The best way to deal with those eis high HP with high evasion, or using a demon that reduces crit damage.
>transfer fiery soul prison on seraph>he still spams trisagion
>>1280219Why would you do that
>>1280268because fiery soul prison hits for a minimum of 180 and a max of 240 instead of always 180 for trisagion
why are they giving away a free footslut on Herokado's login bonus? is there literally ANY connection between these two characters aside from "Japanese deity"
>>1280349Because the footslut is a fusion component for herokado
>>1280352ah, of course
I need colossal amounts of macca...
>>1280349>>1280352>footslutRude.
>>1280377for??
>>1280391brands
>>1280393wait for a brand discount week
kind of kino i wont lie
*looks at the scoreboard*>all those MithrasMust be nice
So is Clear Herokado the best version?I'm surprised they didn't rework purple into Almighty Survivor.
>>1280565Just from experience it's between Teal Hero Maskaado and Clear Hero Masakado. Most of the dudes on my faction say that Clear is the best for everything but mostly democalypse, but I personally tried Teal and, for now, it's nice against the usual Camael teams because you can just run hasty and speed brands on him and let him work as bait, while all the other demons attack.But if you don't even plan to use him on pvp I would say Clear is the better option.
>>1280565can't buy tranny stones for clear afaikyou still need a colored 'kado
>>1280657You can buy them for any colour
>>1280749yeah I just forgot to evolve himhaven't played much since they introduced this shit so I was a little confused
Bros is the server down? I can't start the game
>>1280763works on my machine
>>1280565>strength amp 3Not really. Teal is the best and purple is good against T0 fuckery (zeus, tiamat, etc)
>>1280839>Herokado in PvP>Herokado ever surviving against zeus/tia teams even past t0 auto losslolhe's a glorified democ drone now and Clear is his best color for thathis shield is kinda cool too
>>1280846>Herokado ever surviving against zeus/tia teams even past t0 auto lossskill issue
>>1280849https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/PVP_Ranking/Season_300>lower usage than poltergeist
>>1280846I am going to fuse one for the shield for sure
>>1280865>4 lucifer in offenseI wonder what the hell I'm doing wrong because aside of a shitty gimmick team I cannot make him work with my other demons.Also didn't realize this was season 300, that may explain the amount of players this time.
>2021>being in G3/D1 meant you were around rank 9k-5k >2023>D1 is 2.5k-1.5k>player count is still around 25k judging by the event's ranking What happened?
>>1279905if you can't even finance infusions, don't bother with pvp for now
>>1280922Maria, Demeter
>>1280997he should bother to get gems, but shouldnt nolife it
>>1280922Master exists.
>>1281031Master is after Diamond 1 anon
>>1281041Oh I read that wrong, nevermind then.I guess it's just because how the meta works now. I think Master 2 is around top 500 or 600 around the final hour.
>Elohim has more usage than ZeusWhat the fuck went wrong?
>>1281241163 agi
>>1281243>what is Botis with hasty/speed brandsI refuse to believe people are just running Camael/10th/Maria/Dem mirror match ups ad infinitum. Next offensive demon better be a literal auto win button to break this uber cancerous meta. Makes me wish we were back to Moirae sisters/Ahriman meta where 8k hp double IS + hp scaling move wasn't the standard, but EOS will probably come sooner.
>>1281246Naaaah. Sega doesn't make money when the whales have finished their teams.With the Maria Demeter 10th Camael team being essentially perfect they can't release anyone else to fit in there, so they're going to release a demon that hardcounters demeter and then a couple of months later release someone who replaces demeter in the cookie cutter defense team
>>1281249It would have to be a fractional damage on bulwark gain demon that would also have to do something else that's crazy to keep it from being a one trick counter like Adramalech. Then there's Camael. PvP is well and truly fucked.
>>1281241Dodgetank teams
are there any fuseable 4*s I should be working on fully paneling? I already did Wu Kong
>>1281289No
>>1281289Nope, most people will only panels their favorite 4* and even then, they hardly see any use because they are all bad.It's even worse for 1-3*.
I'm retarded, what do these numbers in purple (the 33s) mean?
>>1281388Trascend stones unlocked for each demons, in total you can unlock 50 for each demon you have. They give more HP, attack and defense depending of the demon's skills (MAtk, MDef for demons like Demeter or Zeus, PAtk, PDef for demons like Astaroth or Hagen), but the best thing they give is the ability to swap skills without discarding the ones you already have equipped and a bonus skill slot.You obtain said stones by getting trascend motes via summoning with gems, some banners can give bonus motes to make the process faster. You exchange the motes for stones in the Exchange section.Tl;dr Trascend stones, make demons stronger giving them more atk, def, HP skill swap and a third skill slot too. You get them by exchanging trascend motes obtained via summons with gems.
>>1281289Unless you like them, no. The only ones that can be useful are Agni (Fire democalypse), Baldur (Light Democalypse), and Belzebuub (Dark Pierce if you need it for something)Everything else is just fine and you shouldn't bother unless you like those demons.
>>1281241>Elohim has more usage than ZeusPerfectly Balanced as It should be
>rolled for Zeus>got Apsu>dropped Zeus for Apsu after using him for like a weekterrible investment, anti-tiamat lydia + mp recovery is much more helpful
>it's a lose 50 points at the very last second and lose 200 gems episode
>win 2 defends within the last 3 minutes moving you up to the next rankfeels good
>Master 1>used 3 pots to get into Master 2 and top 500>still on Master 1Shiet. Gotta do something about my defense because it keeps getting fucked on the last day.
>>1281809What's your defence team?
>>1282052been meaning to change it to a gate/blue ball team for weeks but never gotten around to do it
>>1282059>55000Bro what are you doing, you should be able to reach close to 70k with this team
>>1282080Best i can do is 61
>>1282108bro your>kangaroo boxer>hasty + speed brands>speedster and/or epitome of swiftness?
>>1282080>>1282109I don't know, I think even ar 55k speed that team os still good. I don't think sacrificing power for speed in this meta is worth it.
>>1282120>no bulwark pierceYou're not killing anything besides other fast/midrange teams
>>1282151Yeah that's true. I guess that team teally needs at least one bulkwark Pierce demon. Odin + Hagen sounds really good, especially now that anyone can get hit by chains.
I just realised that the standard gem summon banner removed all fusible 5*s and it's gacha/multi-fusion demons only now. Same applies to Apsu's banner.
H O W
previous post reminds me that i forgot to update my team to have apsu and almost immediately i lost a match because of not having 1 mpgood thing i'm in the gulags where only one other player bothered registering and not the CBT chambers
>>1282520The secret is that war brands are shit. 20% atk set effect is a joke when compared to 50% speed in haste set or 50% HP in life set
>>1282520I think 33 transcend means that they have the extra skill slot
>>128257430 isn't even half way down to the extra slot
>>1282821I just checked Top 100 PVP and there's multiple demons with 33 transcend and the extra skill slotBased retard
>>1282821You unlock the third skill slot at 33
>>1282821You can rush the extra slot instead of unlocking everything before that.Also the 33 number is deceptive because the last steps are more expensive.
>33fucking freemasons
Why does every fucking team have guedehehe now?
>>1283005dodge nigger
>>1282962Truth is, SMT was a mason recruitment program disguised as a video game franchise.
>>1283005easy combo with camael to force someone to attack and miss, probably
>>1283005Mine is P0 and I don't know his I should put him in my team. Sounds funny.
>>1283088many of these new meta demons have a miss component so you really should
Are any of the shit sold for gems in the store worth buying?
>>1283622PVP pots, so that you can get more gems (if you're good)
I can't beat avarice 13 under 5 minutes...Fuck I wish I had zeus
>We have confirmed an issue where "Mada" takes unintended actions during "Kiwami Mada Battle" of "Demon Buster Kiwami" which is currently being held.We will notify you when the correction will be made.Time to kill Mada before they solve this shit.
>>1283886He attacks instead of using his skill, right?
>>1283889Yeah, I think people were using repel phys to deal with it or shit like that.
>>1283836FUCK OFF
>>1283836>Avarice>ZeusBased retard
>>1284026https://youtu.be/sj7osKLckLo
>>1284040https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHr4wsbU8NE
alright my post-anni fatigue has finally set ingenuinely cant be asked to do pvp or battle tower anymore
hey its finally free footslut day
RIP dx2
>>1284157Isn't Dx2 still extremely profitable for sega for some reason? I don't think this is going to be that much of a problem.
>>1284184you underestimate how many times per hour a f2per can reinstall a game
>>1284192Yeah that's true, I guess rerolling could be used as a way to fuck with the game if some guy happens to hate sega a lot.I guess time will tell.
>>1284192>each time their game is installed on a new devicei doubt they would have to pay for each individual installs, that's probably not even legal.
>>1284610/v/ has covered this quite extensively and the way that they track installs is via IP not via deviceevery time you install a unity game it connects with unity's servers (even when it's a pirated install)
>>1284749>piracy actually costs devs money>F2P shovelware are a loss>unity asset flips disincentivisedThis is the best thing unity has ever done
>>1284765Nigger
>added Guedhe to defense and offense>start winning defense and currently in the top 200Shoutouts to the anon that recommended using P0 French nigga.
cant decide if this triple mote banner is worth it or not. only demon that would actively help me would be tiAmat, but triple motes would be nice obviously
>>1285123There's way too much junk in that banner. I'm going to step 1 and dip
>>1285163basically my line of thought, my offense is good now so i can only improve my defense, and i feel like pulling for good def demons from that banner would be a fucking nightmare
>>1285123Do 1 step or a full cycle if you need motes for that extra skill slot. Even if you end up getting Gemori and Heimdall you are still getting a good amount of motes.
>>1285171I'm still convinced we're one demon away from seeing Gemori being good.
>>1285179Gemori is already decent enough for a support demon. Decent HP, nice evasion, and excellent buff control. Her biggest problem is that you really sont need to use her if you have other demons.Even if they add a demon that adds 5000 gorillion power to his attack with boost levels is not going to make gemori more relevant. I think they just need to give her better "good aura", like more evasion while she is alive or more ailment resistance.
>>1282541So what you are telling me is that i should removed all my war on my demons and put haste
>>1285671If your strategy is to outspeed other frail teams yes. War is only good if you don't care about speed and don't need divines
>>1285671No because you'll lack the firepower to deal with slow tanky teams.
>>1280121sorry for the extra late replystarting with odin
>>128689710th
>>1286900Maria
>>1286901Lastly, astaroth, these are the main demons I've invested anything into, and especially in pve they feel so extremely weak since anything hard seems to have pierce, and I have nothing barely any drain so my drain pierce demon is pretty useless
>>1286902>>1286901>>1286900>>128689710th is a slow demon so he won't go well with a speedster like asta.10th gimmick is insta win if he survives t1 so health is good but bulwark is retarded since he has a natural 3 round full hp bulwark, give him guard or shield brands insteadmaria is the one that should have bulwark since you don't seem to have demeodinA needs to be a glass cannonorcus has synergy with 10th so replace asta with him or use griffith with focus on dodge
>>1285117>>added Guedhe to defense and offenseTeam?
>>1286901>37% HPTerrible
https://www.youtube.com/live/l95ClfCg1Xoupcoming stream for something
>>1287118Maria, Demeter and Camael. >>1287240That's the autumn update, we had the same thing last year. That's when they revealed Amon.
>>1287240additional infohttps://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096270.html>The stream is scheduled to last approximately 1 hour and 30 minutes, but may change depending on the progression of the show.https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096272.html>The following items will be sent to your Gift Box upon initial login daily according to the amount of days you have logged in within the event period.>Day 1 Spirit Stamp 6 (Sub) × 50>Day 2 Arch-Shifter 5 × 1>Day 3 Gems (Free) × 200
>>1287240>>1287249I'm hoping for another good bait banner, I need cheap skills and panels
>>1287256>bait bannerIf it happens to be like last year this demon may be really good.
>finally got a Demeterok guys you can relax, now that i have one they'll release the unit to kill her once and for all
>reach diamond 2>lose 50 points within 20 minutesI hate defense>>1287296Thank you for your sacrifice
>>12872962 more weeks, next unit for sure!!
>>1287296TDD
>>1287296Damn, I can't believe a new demon is coming out that insta-kills any demon that puts up a Bulwark, and bypasses Null Mortal.
>>1287385Either "allies ignore bulwark" or "enemies with bulwark take 40% increased damage" is a matter of time. My bet is #1, after half a dozen more bulwark piecers have been released and it's not novel anymore
If opponent tries to apply bullwark when they already have one break all bullwarks then bind all enemies
>>1287411Skills aren't yugioh cards bro
>>1287416>Skills aren't yugioh cards broBro most demons released in the past couple of years have a passive with more text than most yugioh cards
>>1287249>1h30mThey better have some P4s to show
>>1287249>>1287522I hope they buff dimensional garuda
>>1283900>>1283886didn't know how to deal with him but knowing that i pulled together a bs team and won against him ez
>>1287522i hope they introduce frost five
>>1287551>>1287522>buffed Dimensional garuda alongside LughSounds like a fun team. But yeah, I want a few more P4 demons. I thinking have 3 Frost Ace, 4 Flauros and 5 Marishiten ready just in case they get announced.
>>1287405>>1287411Bulwark break sounds like pure cancer, but "+40% to damage dealt to enemies in bulwark" sounds about right.
>>1287385>With Saturnus, counter Bulwarks with "Saturn Devours His Children"!
>>1287944Has Saturn/Chronos ever appeared in a SMT game?
>>1287964Saturnus has, and his compendium entries say he's identified with Cronus.
>>1287993Nice fire affinity demon.
>>1287997Not happening
are there any good 4 stars?
>>1288120anubis is good in dark democ
>>1288273>>1288120Titania also has a huge mag stat and can be built for any element with transfers
>>1288120Most of them live in democ. >Titania: good generalist; high MAG stat>Anubis: Merciless Blow and Dark Boost>Agni:Good Aura for fire democ>Ame No Uzume:Useful for AG>Baldur:Good aura for light democ>Zhong Kui:High STR statAnd there is also all those 4* demons with unique skills that can be useful like Titan, Alraune, Nidhoggr and so on.
>>1288120For PvP, the only "useful" 4* I can think of is D.nekomata.Alraune can be a """good""" alternative for D.Tiamat, Ganesha and Pavarti are "alright" against double IS and D.Abaddon is "" good"" if you need repel phys and fire.
>dreamed I had zeus>again
Do I have a chance to get to finally get to legend?
>>1288517lol
>>1288517Alright, I'm in the top 100 now, just have to survive the night and get into legends. It shouldn't be hard...right?
>>1288731oh no no no
>>1288731I'm sorry for you, bruvabut I wish you luck
i never realized just how fucking commen Demeter-10th-Maria-Camael defense teams are until i started randoming against them with my own, Maria-less Camael-less defense teamthis shit blows
>>1288780As an Elohim-Eva-Zeus-Tiamat A team user, Demeter-10th-Maria-Camael teams feel like fodder.Seeing Elohim deliver 4000 damage to them without me pressing anything is a pleasure
>>1288990Yeah the trick is to turn0 them. If you can kill 10th and Maria before the bulwarks go up you've wonI regret not rolling Lugh
>>1288998Lugh attacks after their bulwarks so he wouldn't work anyway
>>1288768>>128877130 minutes left.
>no change in meta since Camael, new demons have barely any usage>still slowly dropping in tiers every week
>>1289100The last few banners were pretty good and a lot of people got meta demons from them.
>>1289100>new demons have barely any usageHave you not seen the Vivian, Apsu, and Dagon teams? The only one that is a bit useless is Lugh but the other three are still common even in Master>Vivian with Hachiman,Eva and Ardha>Apsu with T1 demons to stop Tiamat A >Dagon and Vivian in 10th angel teamsShit is fucked.
>>1289121>Have you not seen the Vivian, Apsu, and Dagon teams?I haven't, they're too slow and do nothing on turn 0 so they might as well not existApsu is a good demeter replacement for speedy teams until you meet Camael or Ulice and really feel the loss of that one extra point of mana Demeter gives
Finally, and I'm never doing this shit again, japs can suck my ass.Shoutouts the Guedhe anon once again and >>1277118 too because I think he is the same anon with mermaid and Alice in devicon.
>>1289142You're welcome Anon.
>>1289142gz anon
Kinda surprised by how much these red beans add up when you're a luckshitter most of the year.Are t0 teams viable without 8man or the big ball of fire?
>>1290271yes
>>1290271holy shit fucking how?
>rank up>battle tower opponents are literally 10x shittier than last rankwhat the fuck man. last rank it was endless 10th+deme+maria, nobody had that shit this time
>>1290290How?Pic rel is my setup that works way better on randoming then anything I tried with Tiamat.Doesn't help that I don't have camel either.>>1290315About a year of saving + 15-20 from 1 time login rewards.
>>1290362your gonna neeed to go a lot fucking faster with that team1000% indrajit should be speed+hasty brands, his damage doesnt mean shitmaybe even astaroth too but i’m not sure thattransfer speedster to demeter if you havent
>>1290333Lmao, it's really weird. Sometimes you are blessed by the rng and get the shitties teams ever.
>>1290362with tiamatA any team can be t0 if you're fast enough
Stream in 2-3 hours.Wont be able to watch it sadly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l95ClfCg1Xo
Is this worth picking up if I'm a big fan of SMT?
>>1290658No, unless you're a whale.The game is extremely unfriendly to new F2P players.Your favorite demons are also probably unusable because of the powercreep.
>>1290674>>1290658it's actually pretty friendly to newcomers, you get tons of gems and you gain access to current pvp metaas long as you reroll
>>1290658no
>>1290658If you're looking for your daily SMT fix with PvP it's fun. If you suffer from FOMO and dreams of reaching the top do not bother.The game's fun and does try to feel like a real SMT game, but it's extremely greedy
>>1290674>The game is extremely unfriendly to new F2P players.Uh?
stream just started
>>1290731cool, expect new demon news in approximately 8 hours
lol, the MC is a fucking manlet
Heights
>>1290749>>1290748who the fuck are those 3 characters on the right?
>>1290752they appeared in the latest story chapters
>>1290752Did you not play the story? They are the main antagonists of the second season
100 free summonsfree selector and other stuff
P4s
Bullwark pierce lol
Icefags are eating good
They're giving gloom and bulwark pierce to everyone
unleashing brands are gonna get less of a pain now
new birdfu
Coombait demon! Finally
>291 agi
>spirit chainfuck
The new demon is Kalki+Camael combined.Bulky high support speedster and does spirit chain instead of reflect/drain.Get her if you missed Camael
>bulwark pierce phys based elec speedster
>>1290798There is nothing based about mag
>>1290782Unique SkillsWar Witch PassiveGains shock physics penetration. Damage dealt by the Shock attribute is increased by 25%.Increases the effect on his battle speed by 50%. Maximum HP is increased by 50%.When you are the first to attack and battle begins, the interlocking effect "For one turn, all allies are made to reflect magic-type damage, including all-purpose damage, once."When an ally, including yourself, defeats a demon, the interlocking effect "Inflicts one count of corrosive spirit chains on each enemy with the highest physical attack and one count of corrosive spirit chains on each enemy with the highest magical attack." While you are alive, all allies gain the following effect: "Physical evasion rate and physical hit rate are increased by 25%. In addition, all enemies have the following effect: "When in the spirit of corrosion, your physical evasion and physical hit rate are reduced by 25%, and all damage you take is increased by 20%.Ruthless Storm of Death Active MP: 6 (5 with SkillLvMax) Circumstance Limit: NoDeals 90 impact damage to a single enemy 3 times, with piercing and residual damage, and reduces impact affinity by 1 level for 1 turn.The damage is dealt to the enemy hit by a count of corrosive spirit. (Total 3 levels/maximum 3 counts)If the attack succeeds, the linked effect is: "For one turn, the attack power, defense, evasion, and hit damage of all all allies are increased by 20%."Damage from this skill is dependent on physical attack power.Spiritual Chain of Corrosion: Physical and magical defenses are reduced by 80% each. At the end of the action, the amount of spirit (up to 5) is reduced by a count of 1,When the count reaches 0, it is removed. The details of "spirit" are described in the "How to play" section.
>>1290768Does that say "phys damage ignores bulwark against enemies under gloom"? Because that huge
>>1290805seems like it
Looks like her spirit chain isn't the same as camaels
Not strong enough, even the stream guys are having an hard time.She's a skip sadly.
obv made with lugh in mind, doubt she'll be of any use without him
>>1290811>50000 word long skillset>barely relevant
>>1290755Made for violent rape
>>1290813She is strong but not "go all in" tier like Camael.She's top 10 material and slightly better than Kalki in the current meta
event schedule
>>1290810"Spirit Chain" is a generic name for the special debuff. Camael's SC is called "Indignation" while her SC is called "Corrosion".
>>1290813She's a win more demon, she's not meta changing.Will still roll the first step because she's hot.
fucker better win, i want my free summon
>>1290818>official X (former Twitter)
>amon was the demon for this timeslot last yearShe's very similar to him in meta role, aka she's anti meta.Giga speedster with Almighty reflect on T1 to cuck Angel 10, and she improves damage output of everyone with her corrosion chains letting t1 sweeps happen.The only thing holding her back from being anni or half anni demon tier is just press turn generation
>>1288731>>1290782Posting that image early was a sign I guess. She is very cute but she looks a bit underwhelming if you don't have lugh.
>>1290820I think her spirit chain might help break defensive teams, and her repel makes her a 10th counter. She has potential
>>1290824you posting that made me think you were the leaker
>>1290824Lugh has 0% usage rate in top 500, let alone top 100. He will never be used.Morrigan applies wind res down with every attack so she will always hit weakness. (She hits thrice)
>>1290827I honestly didn't want her to be included yet becasue I have no gems after the bait banner, and I'm not a whale so I'm not giving those jews any money.But I'm happy that she is finally included. I hope they add the other girls soon.>>1290828Oh I didn't notice ahe had Force down, that's quite useful.
note that Morrigan is Flight, which wasn't in the game before
>>1290835We didn't have a new race this year too, so maybe they are going to start adding other demons from the flight race.
>>1290835thought she'd be raptor
>>1290804Her attack isn't elec?
>>1290849probably were confused by the machine translation but she's a force demon
>>1290853Makes sense I guess, they wouldn't put out another elec demon of that caliber
>>1290842they should add all 5 harpies from nine at once, it'd be funny
Step 1 Lugh anon here. Is we eatin' good now? I have 32k gems and I'm thinking of building a Morrigan/Lugh/Zeus + support comp.
>evasion cancer meta againNew Elohim when?
>>1290804does she even have bulwark pierce? im illiterate
>>1290804>>1291018Here's a proper translation:5 Flight Morrigan G91HP 1028STR 218MAG 50VIT 140AGI 291LUK 140(Transferable) Force AcceleWitch of War (Passive)Adds Force/Phys Pierce. +25% to Force damage. +50% of own effect on battle speed. +50% to Max HP.Activate the following Chain Effect when attacking first at the start of battle: 5 Elements for 1 turn.Activate the following Chain Effect when an ally (including self) defeats a demon: +1 to the count of Spirit Chains (Corrosion) to the enemies with the highest Phys ATK and Mag ATK.While the one with this skill is alive, all allies will receive the following effect: +25% to AC and EV.In addition, all enemies will receive the following effect: When in the state of Spirit Chains (Corrosion), -25% to AC and EV, and +20% to damage taken.Cold Storm of Death (Active, 6 MP)Inflict Force (Magic) damage thrice (Power: 90, Total: 270) to a single enemy with remnants, and lowers Force attribute affinity level by 1 and adds 1 count to Spirit Chains (Corrosion).Activate the following Chain Effect if the attack is successful: Increase ATK, DEF and EV/AC of all allies by 20%. (1 turn)*This skill pierces Bulwarks.*Damage inflicted by this skill depends on Phys ATK.Aragami: Cleaving Aura / Force AmpProtector: Suk Flexi / Epitome of Wisdom (M)Psychic: Force Avoid / Epitome of SwiftnessElementalist: Elec Null / Force SurvivorP1 +250HP+20% to Speed. -1 MP to cost of Cold Storm of Death.P2 +100 Phys ATKActivate the following Chain Effect when Cold Storm of Death is activated: Decreases ATK, DEF and EV/AC of all enemies by 20%. (1 turn)P3 +250HP+20% to Force damage. +20% to Max HP.
You now remember Ubeelz
>>1291023Easily going to replace jeet in non-zeus teams
>>1291023honestly seems really fucking good if you've been unlucky lately. 270 power aff down that hits thrice for guaranteed weakness is really good for popping demeter
>>1290921Evasion is funny now. I love seeing retards not being able to hit my demons.
>evasion a problemyou guys have phys demons?
>>1291023>AGI 291What the fuck
>>1290821Who?
>>1291023>Epitome of Wisdom>does not inflict ailments>does not use magic
>>1291049Never mind I'm retarded
does this bitch + camael mean you can have an entire team locked down??? they couldn't even wait till 6th anni to do this shit
>>1291054Her spirit chains are different, dummyBesides with enough extra turns Camael can lock down an entire team alone
>>1291054Spirit Chains (Corrosion): -80% to Phys/Mag DEF. At the end of each action, Spirit Chains count is reduced by 1. (Max 5)
>>1291058how is this going to work? if you have both on one team are they going to color code the status symbol? I was genuinely asking, I'm not even going to pretend to understand this spirit chain shit show
>>1291061The only similarly is that they both stack up to 5 and go down by 1 each time the affected demon takes their turnOtherwise it's a separate effect
spirits chains not being cleansable is such a fucking gay ass design choice, obviously i understand why its like this but its still so fucking lame and arbitrary
>>1291066I like it, they're a non-standardised type of ailment. Expands design space so that they can release new demons that to brand new things instead of just rehashing the old things. Hopefully it will not evolve to generic cleanse-immunity-mass application and stay as a unique ailment caused only by one demon
Is mikaboshi from raidou 2 in the Game?
>>1291085Nope>>1291066It's a bit lame considering even Gloom had Zenith at the time to counter it, but I dont think is that much of a problem. But I wish it could be removed the moment you kill camael, or at least reduce a point.
>>1291023is She anti bullwark?
>>1291174
>>1290658Yes, don't listen to the doomposters and the seethers. All gacha games have FOMO issues and whales at the top of the pvp ladder. >>1290703 is correct, and this game is very generous even if you spend zero dollars.I'm a freechad playing since beta and I've enjoyed it. As a new player you'll have it harder than someone like me who has played for years, but I'd advise you to start now and learn the ropes, then reroll once a new player campaign is up so you get all the good meta demons... because as a new player your biggest burden is the lack of knowledge, so you might make mistakes that will set you back a lot (like selling 5*s, not using Kanbari, proper brand management, etc.), so you're better off making a "test" account for now.
>>1291229>proper brand managementShare your secrets with us, whenever I sort through my brands it takes me hours
>>1291232>it takes me hoursIt does, there's no way around it. I'd gladly share tips, but the issue is that brand management for someone just starting (who can still make use of 4* brands in some cases) is MUCH different for someone like me, who can just sell all 1-5* brands for everything that drops in Brands of Sin minus speed, hasty, and dodge. On top of that now that you have main/sub stat rerollers, brands that used to be instantly sold can have uses. If you have specific questions, I'll answer them.The wiki beginner's guide is serviceable: https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Beginner%27s_GuideAnd the brands page is very, very decent: https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/BrandsMy primary advice to anyone finding it hard to learn the systems is "READ READ READ". And after you have read until there's nothing else to read, then ask... because a lot of times for newbies (in any game really), giving tips about systems they don't understand doesn't help much.
>>1291097There were three months between the introductions of Gloom and Zenith, I think.
>>1291023>Activate the following Chain Effect when attacking first at the start of battle: 5 Elements for 1 turnOh no nono, 10 angel fucked>This skill pierces BulwarksOH NONO
completely hilarious how fucking hard they nerfed 10th, with indrajit conveniently anni selectors and then having his spirits up for grabs later, and now this
So now that Ladon has bullwark what do you think will happen
>>1291387He'll be a niche inclusion on SMT2 Tiamat teams to cuck Apsu at best. No way a demon I already have merged up will turn out to be super useful.
>>1291391Part of me wants to use him for my speed team and just make a anti bull team. Too slow, but I desperately need anti-bul
Kneel.
>>1291396hold for the new bitch
>>1291391Isn't he good against the new fire/light T0 team? Lots of healing chains
>>1291567That's exactly what I thought when I read his upgrades - a bit of a counter to those nasty Kangiten + D.Lakshmi + Mithras + Camael teams, specially when paneled and transcended.
News updates:https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096301.html>Morrighan summon includes the updated 5* Lineup with Archangels, Echidna + Ladon etc>English translation of Morrighan's skillset>https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096248.htmlMorrighan event is "Demon Alliance Invasion" aka the boss fight one>Bosses are Suparna, Yatagarasu and Morrighanhttps://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096295.html>"Hustle Support Pack": "This pack increases the maximum natural recovery of duel stamina by +5."https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096289.html>30% fusion discount for Megami, Vile and Night>Vasuki/Ladon/Echidna P4 update releases on the 27th
>>1291616>whales get double duel stamina making it impossible for f2p to catch upBravo Sega, bravo
>>1291854Pay up goy. Or you can set an alarm to wake up every 2 hours at night to spend your fuel points, Sega is benevolent like that
>>1291409H-hoy...
>triple motes banner have multiple cyclesoh no....
>>1291940You didn't know? They have 10 cycles.
>maintenance is supposed to be over>Still in maintenanceEh?
>>1293045EoS
>>1291854I mean, you're not wrong... but it's not like there was a ever a chance for (you) to stand up to whale and other cetaceans without paypigging.>>1291868>he doesn't careful calculate and arrange sleep cycles around pvp stamina refillngmi>>1293045New time is TBD according to the site and the twitter. There must be some issue with the game. Apologems incoming.
>>1293045there's always overtime on maintenance
>Maintenance is scheduled to end at: undecidedIt's over. Dx3 soon
>>1293102It's utter shitshow, that's for sure
>>1293102>Dx3Anon... don't tell me you don't know what dx2 stands for...
>>1293102I'm going back to dx1. Thankfully the servers are still working.
>>1293124Devil Downloader ?
insider herethey forgot the password to the Dx2 mainframe it's over
>>1293129Yes.
IT'S UPGOGOGOGO>400+ MB updateThe fuck?
maint ended400 apologems
Let's gooooo
>cozy 20sec clear 9 stamina stages are over>back to 5 minute clear 4 stamina brandsPain.
>>1293164I really hate this boss event. It's way too hands on, but without anything entertaining about the engagement.
>melchom comments are still upwhat was it?
>>1293180Black Maria using the N word (soft R)
I got 4 bitches from the 3 steps banner but not the one that I wanted
>>1293164>5 minute clear on BoS 12Weak
>click skip>rainbow>its a demon I already had but in a different colorI HATE ITI FUCKING HATE IT
Hasty brands or War brands for Morrighan?
>>1293332Depends entirely on how fast the team you're using her in is. If it's fast enough, then War + Destruct, otherwise War + Speed, and if you need even more then Hasty + Speed.
HOW do I stop getting encountersI'm trying to level
>>1293337Literally ignore them.
>>1293339They're stopping autoplay after every battle
>>1293332everyone else is going to go with speed hasty brands so there's no point in doing war brands for her since you'll be too slow to utilize her
>>1293337>>1293341There's an option to disable the interruption, dumbass.
>>1293335>blocks your path
>>1293387Unless..
threw did the three step and first step of the other banner cause of apologems and battle tower going on cause she would have been pretty nice for mefucking mot and tzimitiback to holding for me, i STILL dont have a single aff down demon
So hows Morrigan.
>>1293480pretty nice demon if everything you have is shit/mediocrewont break the meta probably, but will help a lot of peopledefinitely more useful than dagon, vivian, lugh and apsis just because she’s fast as fuck
>>1293387>blocks your path
very hilarious the corner theyve backed themselves into where if a new demon doesnt have bulwark pierce its unusable, ergo every new demon forever will have bulwark pierce
>>1293506Yea. i'm a semi new player who didn't get the new units 01 or angels and have to use zues, Hagen,Kalki,Okuninushi because thats all i have that is good in my account . Now i was lucky to get Morrighan and will 100% use her because of her bulwark counter.I have so much problems breaking Bulwark with my team and don't understand why people say zues is counter. I feel like its my brands but i don't know
>>1293520zeus "counters" was basically only true when bulwark pierce didnt existthe counter is you would hope your damage is high enough you could either1. kill squishy demons through their bulwarks2. kill deme first with zeus+other demonsbut yes now with bulwark pierce zeus is still good dont get me wrong, but not as a bulwark destroyer anymore
>Morrigan mentions Dagda in her plan to revive celtic heroes to save the world from VanitasUh oh.
>>1293582i would actually spend all my gems for dagda. i dont care if he'd be bad for my team, i just love that retard
