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why the fuck does everything costs money
previous thread >>1247019
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first for fire affinity down
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>>1276347
Give up.
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>>1276340
Demeter! I love Demeter!
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>>1276347
fifth for fire affinity UP
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I HATE Batlle Tower
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>>1276347
7th for anti-bulwark pierce
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Wild instinct (+EoF+6th sense) or life surge for Maria?
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>>1276849
I missed the registration deadline this week, and I'd rather get my ass kicked in there but leave with my 150 consolation gems
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>>1276853
Life Surge. If you already have 6th sense survivor and EoF wild Instinct is a bit redundant, plus Life Surge helps with your HP just in case you fight someone that only uses magic demons.
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>>1276867
that's not how it works, if you didnt register you don't show up i believe (and you get no rewards)
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So close....
Those are 50 gems less.
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jesus christ my battle tower group is pure fucking cancer
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>>1276851
it'll happen and work like repel pierce for alilat and all the rest.
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>>1276900
you can still go down, a lot of player get their points right before it ends
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>>1276907
I love pixie
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>>1276910
I still have a few points just in case, but the two dudes below me failed to defeat my defense, so I'll probably be okay.
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I just realized that this aura gate event would have been an excellent idea to burn through some of my talk tomes...
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>>1277049
Haven't used the tomes in years
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>>1276340
Mermaid is my wife.
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>>1276899
you may be a dumdum or maybe I haven't expressed myself very well (I'm ESL)
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>>1277118
>once had first place
>now not even in top 10
It's forever over for me.
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>>1277267
You can do it man, nevah give up!
I think mine is around the top 5 or something like that. At first I did it as a joke, but nowadays I use her for stuff like kiwami or farming brands. She is very cute.
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Newfag here, is this game worth getting into? I really like smt and the demon designs, smt 4 is my favorite game.
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>>1277339
no
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>>1277339
Absolutely not, unless you're either willing to throw a ton of money into this or restart constantly so you can grab the new demons, because PvP is basically all this game is now.
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>>1277339
No, unless you really like the pvp mode.
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https://app.famitsu.com/20230906_2125663/
Deity Apsu!
>Passive Skill: Drop of Beginning
Ice Pierce. +100% Crit Rate. +50% Battle Speed.
At start of first turn, grants Lydia to all allies.
While alive, grants +1 MP recovery to all allies.
While in Lydia, all status ailments will be removed and -20% damage received.
When an ally including self defeats a demon, gain +1 press turn (only once per turn).

>Active Skill: Primordial Roaring. 6MP.
300 POW Ice damage to 1 foe. If successful, decreases enemy Atk/Def/Eva for 1 turn.
Ignores Endure skills.
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>>1277496
He looks very simple for a 2023 demon, but also interesting. A shame that it doesn't have Ice affinity decrease, bur he will be very good when that demon eventually drops. His good aura is really good (heh).
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>>1277496
good speedy demon, if you don’t have one already
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>>1277496
Putting Lydia synergy on a speedy demon is a weird design choice
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5* lineup got changed across the board i think? even for superior files? archangels+echidna+ladon
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>>1277645
They did the same for Anahita and Bulwark.

>>1277663
Scroll down, there's more but since there's no Tenma, it's actually not that good.
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they should bring back the immune to ailments handicap
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>>1277663
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096244.html
neat, i guess
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>you need 30 millions MAG for herokado
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>Apsu doesnt Pierce Bulwark
Why?
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>>1277663
From what I understand is only for the Gem summon, that shit one, and nothing else.
We will see tomorrow because if they changed it for everything that's really good. No more Thor, fafnir or hresvelger in the 6th step.
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>>1277916
Everything in the standard gem summon is in (almost) every other banner too. Apsu's banner has all of the newly added demons
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>>1278002
>Apsu's banner has all of the newly added demons
This is true - https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096238.html
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>>1278014
>Echidna
>Ladon
>Vairocana
>Atavaka
aside from Xi and Maya (for compendiumfags) I don't think this lineup is that impressive...they should have added everything up to Arioch imo and limit all the fodder to fusion only
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>>1278002
I see, that's very nice.
>>1278017
I'm surprised they didn't include the Hallel demons considering there is no easy way to get them now that their banner is never returning. At least the angels are here now, and the sisters are in the subjugation summon, but there is no way to get Ose and Flauros Hallel.
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>>1277496
>be better than Lugh in every way
>cost 100 tomes less
what did $EGA mean by this?
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>>1277496
>Lydia
countered by a shitty snake no one uses
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>>1278190
Apsu is just a "win more" demon.
Lugh is nigh-mandatory for brand farming unless you think your time isn't worth much.
And I will roll for neither.
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even with a talk tome these faggot ass mitama wont talk to me
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>>1278509
Ground them to dust, that will teach 'em
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>>1278509
Kind of surprised we still don't have Conversation skills, if just to help grab Mitamas.
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>finished chagrin's questline
bros...i kinda felt something...
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Apsu's out. I got jumpscared by Vairocana not once but twice in the new pool.
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>New event is about Apsu cucking Tiamat
Lol
Lmao even
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>>1278886
Calling it now, the ending will be Apsu dying and Tiamat planning to do the same thing he was, but with Kingu (one of their sons) as her husband like in the Enuma Elish.
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>new demons were not added to summon files
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Took me 2 hours to whittle 3500 brands down to 1200
God I hate inventory management
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>>1278919
I just sell anything below 6* that doesnt have atk/matk/HP %.
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>>1278946
i just sell anything that isn't a 6* brand
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Very funny. I'm not dealing with this bullshit for a genome
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>>1278997
>bulwark pierce fractional damage
I was just thinking about this being the official EOS skill the other week. Glad to see they have it ready.
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>>1278997
>demecucks
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>>1278997
It's easy bro
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>>1278997
>when enemy gains a Bulwark
>applies equally to Demeter as it does to fucking Anahita or some year 1 shitter's p4
hurr durr durrr almost like getting 25% of max hp as a bulwark every time anyone is hit was a retarded move
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>>1279040
How do you avoid your team getting charmed and nuked before Lakshmi's turn?
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>herokado's MP gain is party wide
Angra is even more useless now.
How the mighty have fallen...
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Goddayumn the new demons are dogshite
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>>1279090
Good, chance to save some gems for the next broken shit that singlehandedly dedines the meta
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>>1279092
They didn't make them this bad last year.
Even Sabaoth had some usage %

Lugh and Apsu are yet another 0% usage demons
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>>1279068
I didn't even put barriers on everyone because they could tank it anyway
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>>1279106
Oh, that change a lot of things then.
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any tips on the new kiwami for someone who don't have deme
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goofy ass stage. they have around 40k speed.
>Lanling activates Zenith for damage output
>Apsu cockblocks Tiamat with Lydia's ailment invulnerability, +1 press turn
>Zeus did most of the damage with Zenith elec weakness Keraunos, making the most of it was the difference between failed attempts and this one. +1 press turn was essential, enemy turn elec attack was insurance
>Ladon just eats Lydia to get rid of the insane damage resistance
Wish I had Longinus instead of Ladon.
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>>1279121
Show demons. If you have enough power you can cheese it with Zeus and Odin.
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Why is the meta so fucking fast
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>>1279315
be thankful, slow meta is even more cancerous
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>blue ball + demeter + D lakshmi
>my 01 was hitting for 600 damage at best
holy shit
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>>1279319
You're not wrong but I'm mad because if I make my team any faster I have no way of killing the cookie cutter slow team
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>>1279439
someone mentioned to me last thread, and i completely agree, that the kind of shit you have to do to beat that kind of slow team is so excruciating and expensive as fuck you just have to bite the bullet and accept you cant do shit against that kind of cancer
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>>1279121
I did it with my t1 team (Zuus,Pajeet,Asta) + uberpixie with silent prayer.
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i think chi you is a nifty demon
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huang long gaming dead
does this mean i beat the game
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>>1279525
and my brute force team
griffith had zero brands or panels and was only there to zenith chi you lol
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>>1279447
You can beat those teams if their brands are mid. If their brands are godly tho you are pretty much fucked
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>>1279127
how the fuck are you people beating this im barely getting a turn in and not doing any damage
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>>1279764
Use ladon
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>>1279469
He is really cool. It's nice that some people are using him in their offense party alongside hachiman and pol, really funny team.
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>>1279800
i aint got him
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how do i make a demon good? what are good demons? why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?
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>>1279891
>how do i make a demon good
max out their skill levels (if they increase damage) ((or do other things depending on the demon))
get them good brands
good skill transfers
panels (this is the hardest)
>what are good demons?
depends on what you need, when you start, and what you already have
wiki has a decent tier list if a bit out of date
>why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?
pvp is fucked so if you arent completely geared to tank hits you will be raped
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>>1279893
demons i currently use. everyone but astaroth feels so extremely weak, even if i load them up with big brands. how much of a difference does infusion make? i don't have much sin or the other essence so I've only done it on a few demons.
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>>1279905
you honestly have a pretty great set of demons all things considered, not perfect but certainly good
10th+maria alone would be a great def team
>how much of a difference does infusion make?
infusions help a good amount, but less than brands and panels, you can get a fuck ton of sin RIGHT NOW doing tokyo abyss
>everyone but astaroth feels so extremely weak
at LEAST your odin should be strong too, what brands are you running on him?
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>Herokado is using Kuyo Flash instead of Rending Fire for Democalypse
Bravo SEGA
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I been sick as a dog and just now realized Demo is going on, did I miss a day?
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>>1280086
nah still day 1
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>>1279891
>>1279905
post brands
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>>1279891
>why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?
Uh? Do you mean Phys Defense? Unsurprisingly that doesn't work that well just because the other fuckers are running 2000+ phys atk. The best way to deal with those eis high HP with high evasion, or using a demon that reduces crit damage.
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>transfer fiery soul prison on seraph
>he still spams trisagion
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>>1280219
Why would you do that
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>>1280268
because fiery soul prison hits for a minimum of 180 and a max of 240 instead of always 180 for trisagion
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why are they giving away a free footslut on Herokado's login bonus? is there literally ANY connection between these two characters aside from "Japanese deity"
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>>1280349
Because the footslut is a fusion component for herokado
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>>1280352
ah, of course
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I need colossal amounts of macca...
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>>1280349
>>1280352
>footslut
Rude.
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>>1280377
for??
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>>1280391
brands
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>>1280393
wait for a brand discount week
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kind of kino i wont lie
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*looks at the scoreboard*
>all those Mithras
Must be nice
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So is Clear Herokado the best version?
I'm surprised they didn't rework purple into Almighty Survivor.
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>>1280565
Just from experience it's between Teal Hero Maskaado and Clear Hero Masakado.
Most of the dudes on my faction say that Clear is the best for everything but mostly democalypse, but I personally tried Teal and, for now, it's nice against the usual Camael teams because you can just run hasty and speed brands on him and let him work as bait, while all the other demons attack.
But if you don't even plan to use him on pvp I would say Clear is the better option.
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>>1280565
can't buy tranny stones for clear afaik
you still need a colored 'kado
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>>1280657
You can buy them for any colour
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>>1280749
yeah I just forgot to evolve him
haven't played much since they introduced this shit so I was a little confused
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Bros is the server down? I can't start the game
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>>1280763
works on my machine
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>>1280565
>strength amp 3
Not really. Teal is the best and purple is good against T0 fuckery (zeus, tiamat, etc)
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>>1280839
>Herokado in PvP
>Herokado ever surviving against zeus/tia teams even past t0 auto loss
lol
he's a glorified democ drone now and Clear is his best color for that
his shield is kinda cool too
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>>1280846
>Herokado ever surviving against zeus/tia teams even past t0 auto loss
skill issue
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>>1280849
https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/PVP_Ranking/Season_300
>lower usage than poltergeist
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>>1280846
I am going to fuse one for the shield for sure
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>>1280865
>4 lucifer in offense
I wonder what the hell I'm doing wrong because aside of a shitty gimmick team I cannot make him work with my other demons.
Also didn't realize this was season 300, that may explain the amount of players this time.
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>2021
>being in G3/D1 meant you were around rank 9k-5k
>2023
>D1 is 2.5k-1.5k
>player count is still around 25k judging by the event's ranking
What happened?
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>>1279905
if you can't even finance infusions, don't bother with pvp for now
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>>1280922
Maria, Demeter
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>>1280997
he should bother to get gems, but shouldnt nolife it
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>>1280922
Master exists.
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>>1281031
Master is after Diamond 1 anon
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>>1281041
Oh I read that wrong, nevermind then.
I guess it's just because how the meta works now. I think Master 2 is around top 500 or 600 around the final hour.
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>Elohim has more usage than Zeus
What the fuck went wrong?
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>>1281241
163 agi
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>>1281243
>what is Botis with hasty/speed brands
I refuse to believe people are just running Camael/10th/Maria/Dem mirror match ups ad infinitum. Next offensive demon better be a literal auto win button to break this uber cancerous meta. Makes me wish we were back to Moirae sisters/Ahriman meta where 8k hp double IS + hp scaling move wasn't the standard, but EOS will probably come sooner.
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>>1281246
Naaaah. Sega doesn't make money when the whales have finished their teams.
With the Maria Demeter 10th Camael team being essentially perfect they can't release anyone else to fit in there, so they're going to release a demon that hardcounters demeter and then a couple of months later release someone who replaces demeter in the cookie cutter defense team
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>>1281249
It would have to be a fractional damage on bulwark gain demon that would also have to do something else that's crazy to keep it from being a one trick counter like Adramalech. Then there's Camael. PvP is well and truly fucked.
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>>1281241
Dodgetank teams
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are there any fuseable 4*s I should be working on fully paneling? I already did Wu Kong
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>>1281289
No
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>>1281289
Nope, most people will only panels their favorite 4* and even then, they hardly see any use because they are all bad.
It's even worse for 1-3*.
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I'm retarded, what do these numbers in purple (the 33s) mean?
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>>1281388
Trascend stones unlocked for each demons, in total you can unlock 50 for each demon you have. They give more HP, attack and defense depending of the demon's skills (MAtk, MDef for demons like Demeter or Zeus, PAtk, PDef for demons like Astaroth or Hagen), but the best thing they give is the ability to swap skills without discarding the ones you already have equipped and a bonus skill slot.
You obtain said stones by getting trascend motes via summoning with gems, some banners can give bonus motes to make the process faster. You exchange the motes for stones in the Exchange section.

Tl;dr Trascend stones, make demons stronger giving them more atk, def, HP skill swap and a third skill slot too. You get them by exchanging trascend motes obtained via summons with gems.
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>>1281289
Unless you like them, no. The only ones that can be useful are Agni (Fire democalypse), Baldur (Light Democalypse), and Belzebuub (Dark Pierce if you need it for something)
Everything else is just fine and you shouldn't bother unless you like those demons.
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>>1281241
>Elohim has more usage than Zeus
Perfectly Balanced as It should be
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>rolled for Zeus
>got Apsu
>dropped Zeus for Apsu after using him for like a week
terrible investment, anti-tiamat lydia + mp recovery is much more helpful
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>it's a lose 50 points at the very last second and lose 200 gems episode
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>win 2 defends within the last 3 minutes moving you up to the next rank
feels good
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>Master 1
>used 3 pots to get into Master 2 and top 500
>still on Master 1
Shiet. Gotta do something about my defense because it keeps getting fucked on the last day.
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>>1281809
What's your defence team?
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>>1282052
been meaning to change it to a gate/blue ball team for weeks but never gotten around to do it
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>>1282059
>55000
Bro what are you doing, you should be able to reach close to 70k with this team
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>>1282080
Best i can do is 61
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>>1282108
bro your
>kangaroo boxer
>hasty + speed brands
>speedster and/or epitome of swiftness
?
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>>1282080
>>1282109
I don't know, I think even ar 55k speed that team os still good. I don't think sacrificing power for speed in this meta is worth it.
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>>1282120
>no bulwark pierce
You're not killing anything besides other fast/midrange teams
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>>1282151
Yeah that's true. I guess that team teally needs at least one bulkwark Pierce demon. Odin + Hagen sounds really good, especially now that anyone can get hit by chains.
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I just realised that the standard gem summon banner removed all fusible 5*s and it's gacha/multi-fusion demons only now. Same applies to Apsu's banner.
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H O W
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previous post reminds me that i forgot to update my team to have apsu and almost immediately i lost a match because of not having 1 mp

good thing i'm in the gulags where only one other player bothered registering and not the CBT chambers
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>>1282520
The secret is that war brands are shit. 20% atk set effect is a joke when compared to 50% speed in haste set or 50% HP in life set
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>>1282520
I think 33 transcend means that they have the extra skill slot
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>>1282574
30 isn't even half way down to the extra slot
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>>1282821
I just checked Top 100 PVP and there's multiple demons with 33 transcend and the extra skill slot
Based retard
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>>1282821
You unlock the third skill slot at 33
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>>1282821
You can rush the extra slot instead of unlocking everything before that.
Also the 33 number is deceptive because the last steps are more expensive.
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>33
fucking freemasons
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Why does every fucking team have guedehehe now?
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>>1283005
dodge nigger
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>>1282962
Truth is, SMT was a mason recruitment program disguised as a video game franchise.
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>>1283005
easy combo with camael to force someone to attack and miss, probably
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>>1283005
Mine is P0 and I don't know his I should put him in my team. Sounds funny.
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>>1283088
many of these new meta demons have a miss component so you really should
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Are any of the shit sold for gems in the store worth buying?
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>>1283622
PVP pots, so that you can get more gems (if you're good)
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I can't beat avarice 13 under 5 minutes...
Fuck I wish I had zeus
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>We have confirmed an issue where "Mada" takes unintended actions during "Kiwami Mada Battle" of "Demon Buster Kiwami" which is currently being held.
We will notify you when the correction will be made.
Time to kill Mada before they solve this shit.
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>>1283886
He attacks instead of using his skill, right?
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>>1283889
Yeah, I think people were using repel phys to deal with it or shit like that.
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>>1283836
FUCK OFF
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>>1283836
>Avarice
>Zeus
Based retard
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>>1284026
https://youtu.be/sj7osKLckLo
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>>1284040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHr4wsbU8NE
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alright my post-anni fatigue has finally set in
genuinely cant be asked to do pvp or battle tower anymore
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hey its finally free footslut day
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RIP dx2
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>>1284157
Isn't Dx2 still extremely profitable for sega for some reason? I don't think this is going to be that much of a problem.
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>>1284184
you underestimate how many times per hour a f2per can reinstall a game
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>>1284192
Yeah that's true, I guess rerolling could be used as a way to fuck with the game if some guy happens to hate sega a lot.
I guess time will tell.
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>>1284192
>each time their game is installed on a new device
i doubt they would have to pay for each individual installs, that's probably not even legal.
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>>1284610
/v/ has covered this quite extensively and the way that they track installs is via IP not via device
every time you install a unity game it connects with unity's servers (even when it's a pirated install)
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>>1284749
>piracy actually costs devs money
>F2P shovelware are a loss
>unity asset flips disincentivised
This is the best thing unity has ever done
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>>1284765
Nigger
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>added Guedhe to defense and offense
>start winning defense and currently in the top 200
Shoutouts to the anon that recommended using P0 French nigga.
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cant decide if this triple mote banner is worth it or not. only demon that would actively help me would be tiAmat, but triple motes would be nice obviously
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>>1285123
There's way too much junk in that banner. I'm going to step 1 and dip
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>>1285163
basically my line of thought, my offense is good now so i can only improve my defense, and i feel like pulling for good def demons from that banner would be a fucking nightmare
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>>1285123
Do 1 step or a full cycle if you need motes for that extra skill slot. Even if you end up getting Gemori and Heimdall you are still getting a good amount of motes.
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>>1285171
I'm still convinced we're one demon away from seeing Gemori being good.
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>>1285179
Gemori is already decent enough for a support demon. Decent HP, nice evasion, and excellent buff control. Her biggest problem is that you really sont need to use her if you have other demons.
Even if they add a demon that adds 5000 gorillion power to his attack with boost levels is not going to make gemori more relevant.
I think they just need to give her better "good aura", like more evasion while she is alive or more ailment resistance.
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>>1282541
So what you are telling me is that i should removed all my war on my demons and put haste
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>>1285671
If your strategy is to outspeed other frail teams yes. War is only good if you don't care about speed and don't need divines
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>>1285671
No because you'll lack the firepower to deal with slow tanky teams.
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>>1280121
sorry for the extra late reply
starting with odin
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>>1286897
10th
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>>1286900
Maria
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>>1286901
Lastly, astaroth, these are the main demons I've invested anything into, and especially in pve they feel so extremely weak since anything hard seems to have pierce, and I have nothing barely any drain so my drain pierce demon is pretty useless
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>>1286902
>>1286901
>>1286900
>>1286897
10th is a slow demon so he won't go well with a speedster like asta.
10th gimmick is insta win if he survives t1 so health is good but bulwark is retarded since he has a natural 3 round full hp bulwark, give him guard or shield brands instead
maria is the one that should have bulwark since you don't seem to have deme
odinA needs to be a glass cannon
orcus has synergy with 10th so replace asta with him or use griffith with focus on dodge
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>>1285117
>>added Guedhe to defense and offense
Team?
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>>1286901
>37% HP
Terrible
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https://www.youtube.com/live/l95ClfCg1Xo
upcoming stream for something
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>>1287118
Maria, Demeter and Camael.
>>1287240
That's the autumn update, we had the same thing last year. That's when they revealed Amon.
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>>1287240
additional info
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096270.html
>The stream is scheduled to last approximately 1 hour and 30 minutes, but may change depending on the progression of the show.
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096272.html
>The following items will be sent to your Gift Box upon initial login daily according to the amount of days you have logged in within the event period.
>Day 1 Spirit Stamp 6 (Sub) × 50
>Day 2 Arch-Shifter 5 × 1
>Day 3 Gems (Free) × 200
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>>1287240
>>1287249
I'm hoping for another good bait banner, I need cheap skills and panels
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>>1287256
>bait banner
If it happens to be like last year this demon may be really good.
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>finally got a Demeter
ok guys you can relax, now that i have one they'll release the unit to kill her once and for all
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>reach diamond 2
>lose 50 points within 20 minutes
I hate defense

>>1287296
Thank you for your sacrifice
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>>1287296
2 more weeks, next unit for sure!!
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>>1287296
TDD
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>>1287296
Damn, I can't believe a new demon is coming out that insta-kills any demon that puts up a Bulwark, and bypasses Null Mortal.
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>>1287385
Either "allies ignore bulwark" or "enemies with bulwark take 40% increased damage" is a matter of time. My bet is #1, after half a dozen more bulwark piecers have been released and it's not novel anymore
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If opponent tries to apply bullwark when they already have one break all bullwarks then bind all enemies
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>>1287411
Skills aren't yugioh cards bro
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>>1287416
>Skills aren't yugioh cards bro
Bro most demons released in the past couple of years have a passive with more text than most yugioh cards
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>>1287249
>1h30m
They better have some P4s to show
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>>1287249
>>1287522
I hope they buff dimensional garuda
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>>1283900
>>1283886
didn't know how to deal with him but knowing that i pulled together a bs team and won against him ez
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>>1287522
i hope they introduce frost five
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>>1287551
>>1287522
>buffed Dimensional garuda alongside Lugh
Sounds like a fun team. But yeah, I want a few more P4 demons. I thinking have 3 Frost Ace, 4 Flauros and 5 Marishiten ready just in case they get announced.
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>>1287405
>>1287411
Bulwark break sounds like pure cancer, but "+40% to damage dealt to enemies in bulwark" sounds about right.
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>>1287385
>With Saturnus, counter Bulwarks with "Saturn Devours His Children"!
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>>1287944
Has Saturn/Chronos ever appeared in a SMT game?
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>>1287964
Saturnus has, and his compendium entries say he's identified with Cronus.
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>>1287993
Nice fire affinity demon.
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>>1287997
Not happening
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are there any good 4 stars?
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>>1288120
anubis is good in dark democ
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>>1288273
>>1288120
Titania also has a huge mag stat and can be built for any element with transfers
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>>1288120
Most of them live in democ.
>Titania: good generalist; high MAG stat
>Anubis: Merciless Blow and Dark Boost
>Agni:Good Aura for fire democ
>Ame No Uzume:Useful for AG
>Baldur:Good aura for light democ
>Zhong Kui:High STR stat
And there is also all those 4* demons with unique skills that can be useful like Titan, Alraune, Nidhoggr and so on.
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>>1288120
For PvP, the only "useful" 4* I can think of is D.nekomata.
Alraune can be a """good""" alternative for D.Tiamat, Ganesha and Pavarti are "alright" against double IS and D.Abaddon is "" good"" if you need repel phys and fire.
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>dreamed I had zeus
>again
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Do I have a chance to get to finally get to legend?
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>>1288517
lol
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>>1288517
Alright, I'm in the top 100 now, just have to survive the night and get into legends. It shouldn't be hard...right?
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>>1288731
oh no no no
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>>1288731
I'm sorry for you, bruva
but I wish you luck
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i never realized just how fucking commen Demeter-10th-Maria-Camael defense teams are until i started randoming against them with my own, Maria-less Camael-less defense team

this shit blows
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>>1288780
As an Elohim-Eva-Zeus-Tiamat A team user, Demeter-10th-Maria-Camael teams feel like fodder.
Seeing Elohim deliver 4000 damage to them without me pressing anything is a pleasure
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>>1288990
Yeah the trick is to turn0 them. If you can kill 10th and Maria before the bulwarks go up you've won
I regret not rolling Lugh
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>>1288998
Lugh attacks after their bulwarks so he wouldn't work anyway
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>>1288768
>>1288771
30 minutes left.
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>no change in meta since Camael, new demons have barely any usage
>still slowly dropping in tiers every week
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>>1289100
The last few banners were pretty good and a lot of people got meta demons from them.
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>>1289100
>new demons have barely any usage
Have you not seen the Vivian, Apsu, and Dagon teams? The only one that is a bit useless is Lugh but the other three are still common even in Master
>Vivian with Hachiman,Eva and Ardha
>Apsu with T1 demons to stop Tiamat A
>Dagon and Vivian in 10th angel teams
Shit is fucked.
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>>1289121
>Have you not seen the Vivian, Apsu, and Dagon teams?
I haven't, they're too slow and do nothing on turn 0 so they might as well not exist
Apsu is a good demeter replacement for speedy teams until you meet Camael or Ulice and really feel the loss of that one extra point of mana Demeter gives
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Finally, and I'm never doing this shit again, japs can suck my ass.
Shoutouts the Guedhe anon once again and >>1277118 too because I think he is the same anon with mermaid and Alice in devicon.
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>>1289142
You're welcome Anon.
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>>1289142
gz anon
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Kinda surprised by how much these red beans add up when you're a luckshitter most of the year.
Are t0 teams viable without 8man or the big ball of fire?
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>>1290271
yes
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>>1290271
holy shit fucking how?
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>rank up
>battle tower opponents are literally 10x shittier than last rank
what the fuck man. last rank it was endless 10th+deme+maria, nobody had that shit this time
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>>1290290
How?
Pic rel is my setup that works way better on randoming then anything I tried with Tiamat.
Doesn't help that I don't have camel either.
>>1290315
About a year of saving + 15-20 from 1 time login rewards.
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>>1290362
your gonna neeed to go a lot fucking faster with that team
1000% indrajit should be speed+hasty brands, his damage doesnt mean shit
maybe even astaroth too but i’m not sure that
transfer speedster to demeter if you havent
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>>1290333
Lmao, it's really weird. Sometimes you are blessed by the rng and get the shitties teams ever.
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>>1290362
with tiamatA any team can be t0 if you're fast enough
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Stream in 2-3 hours.
Wont be able to watch it sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l95ClfCg1Xo
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Is this worth picking up if I'm a big fan of SMT?
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>>1290658
No, unless you're a whale.
The game is extremely unfriendly to new F2P players.
Your favorite demons are also probably unusable because of the powercreep.
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>>1290674
>>1290658
it's actually pretty friendly to newcomers, you get tons of gems and you gain access to current pvp meta
as long as you reroll
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>>1290658
no
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>>1290658
If you're looking for your daily SMT fix with PvP it's fun. If you suffer from FOMO and dreams of reaching the top do not bother.
The game's fun and does try to feel like a real SMT game, but it's extremely greedy
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>>1290674
>The game is extremely unfriendly to new F2P players.
Uh?
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stream just started
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>>1290731
cool, expect new demon news in approximately 8 hours
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lol, the MC is a fucking manlet
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>>1290749
>>1290748
who the fuck are those 3 characters on the right?
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>>1290752
they appeared in the latest story chapters
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>>1290752
Did you not play the story? They are the main antagonists of the second season
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100 free summons
free selector and other stuff
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P4s
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Bullwark pierce lol
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Icefags are eating good
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They're giving gloom and bulwark pierce to everyone
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unleashing brands are gonna get less of a pain now
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new birdfu
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Coombait demon! Finally
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>291 agi
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>spirit chain
fuck
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The new demon is Kalki+Camael combined.
Bulky high support speedster and does spirit chain instead of reflect/drain.

Get her if you missed Camael
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>bulwark pierce phys based elec speedster
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>>1290798
There is nothing based about mag
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>>1290782
Unique Skills

War Witch Passive

Gains shock physics penetration. Damage dealt by the Shock attribute is increased by 25%.
Increases the effect on his battle speed by 50%. Maximum HP is increased by 50%.
When you are the first to attack and battle begins, the interlocking effect "For one turn, all allies are made to reflect magic-type damage, including all-purpose damage, once."
When an ally, including yourself, defeats a demon, the interlocking effect "Inflicts one count of corrosive spirit chains on each enemy with the highest physical attack and one count of corrosive spirit chains on each enemy with the highest magical attack." While you are alive, all allies gain the following effect: "Physical evasion rate and physical hit rate are increased by 25%. In addition, all enemies have the following effect: "When in the spirit of corrosion, your physical evasion and physical hit rate are reduced by 25%, and all damage you take is increased by 20%.

Ruthless Storm of Death Active MP: 6 (5 with SkillLvMax) Circumstance Limit: No
Deals 90 impact damage to a single enemy 3 times, with piercing and residual damage, and reduces impact affinity by 1 level for 1 turn.
The damage is dealt to the enemy hit by a count of corrosive spirit. (Total 3 levels/maximum 3 counts)

If the attack succeeds, the linked effect is: "For one turn, the attack power, defense, evasion, and hit damage of all all allies are increased by 20%."

Damage from this skill is dependent on physical attack power.

Spiritual Chain of Corrosion: Physical and magical defenses are reduced by 80% each. At the end of the action, the amount of spirit (up to 5) is reduced by a count of 1,

When the count reaches 0, it is removed. The details of "spirit" are described in the "How to play" section.
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>>1290768
Does that say "phys damage ignores bulwark against enemies under gloom"? Because that huge
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>>1290805
seems like it
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Looks like her spirit chain isn't the same as camaels
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Not strong enough, even the stream guys are having an hard time.
She's a skip sadly.
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obv made with lugh in mind, doubt she'll be of any use without him
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>>1290811
>50000 word long skillset
>barely relevant
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>>1290755
Made for violent rape
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>>1290813
She is strong but not "go all in" tier like Camael.
She's top 10 material and slightly better than Kalki in the current meta
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event schedule
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>>1290810
"Spirit Chain" is a generic name for the special debuff. Camael's SC is called "Indignation" while her SC is called "Corrosion".
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>>1290813
She's a win more demon, she's not meta changing.
Will still roll the first step because she's hot.
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fucker better win, i want my free summon
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>>1290818
>official X (former Twitter)
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>amon was the demon for this timeslot last year
She's very similar to him in meta role, aka she's anti meta.

Giga speedster with Almighty reflect on T1 to cuck Angel 10, and she improves damage output of everyone with her corrosion chains letting t1 sweeps happen.

The only thing holding her back from being anni or half anni demon tier is just press turn generation
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>>1288731
>>1290782
Posting that image early was a sign I guess. She is very cute but she looks a bit underwhelming if you don't have lugh.
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>>1290820
I think her spirit chain might help break defensive teams, and her repel makes her a 10th counter. She has potential
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>>1290824
you posting that made me think you were the leaker
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>>1290824
Lugh has 0% usage rate in top 500, let alone top 100. He will never be used.

Morrigan applies wind res down with every attack so she will always hit weakness. (She hits thrice)
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>>1290827
I honestly didn't want her to be included yet becasue I have no gems after the bait banner, and I'm not a whale so I'm not giving those jews any money.
But I'm happy that she is finally included. I hope they add the other girls soon.
>>1290828
Oh I didn't notice ahe had Force down, that's quite useful.
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note that Morrigan is Flight, which wasn't in the game before
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>>1290835
We didn't have a new race this year too, so maybe they are going to start adding other demons from the flight race.
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>>1290835
thought she'd be raptor
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>>1290804
Her attack isn't elec?
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>>1290849
probably were confused by the machine translation but she's a force demon
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>>1290853
Makes sense I guess, they wouldn't put out another elec demon of that caliber
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>>1290842
they should add all 5 harpies from nine at once, it'd be funny
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Step 1 Lugh anon here. Is we eatin' good now? I have 32k gems and I'm thinking of building a Morrigan/Lugh/Zeus + support comp.
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>evasion cancer meta again
New Elohim when?
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>>1290804
does she even have bulwark pierce? im illiterate
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>>1290804
>>1291018
Here's a proper translation:

5 Flight Morrigan G91

HP 1028
STR 218
MAG 50
VIT 140
AGI 291
LUK 140

(Transferable) Force Accele

Witch of War (Passive)
Adds Force/Phys Pierce. +25% to Force damage. +50% of own effect on battle speed.
+50% to Max HP.
Activate the following Chain Effect when attacking first at the start of battle: 5 Elements for 1 turn.
Activate the following Chain Effect when an ally (including self) defeats a demon: +1 to the count of Spirit Chains (Corrosion) to the enemies with the highest Phys ATK and Mag ATK.
While the one with this skill is alive, all allies will receive the following effect: +25% to AC and EV.
In addition, all enemies will receive the following effect: When in the state of Spirit Chains (Corrosion), -25% to AC and EV, and +20% to damage taken.

Cold Storm of Death (Active, 6 MP)
Inflict Force (Magic) damage thrice (Power: 90, Total: 270) to a single enemy with remnants, and lowers Force attribute affinity level by 1 and adds 1 count to Spirit Chains (Corrosion).
Activate the following Chain Effect if the attack is successful: Increase ATK, DEF and EV/AC of all allies by 20%. (1 turn)
*This skill pierces Bulwarks.
*Damage inflicted by this skill depends on Phys ATK.

Aragami: Cleaving Aura / Force Amp
Protector: Suk Flexi / Epitome of Wisdom (M)
Psychic: Force Avoid / Epitome of Swiftness
Elementalist: Elec Null / Force Survivor

P1 +250HP
+20% to Speed. -1 MP to cost of Cold Storm of Death.

P2 +100 Phys ATK
Activate the following Chain Effect when Cold Storm of Death is activated: Decreases ATK, DEF and EV/AC of all enemies by 20%. (1 turn)

P3 +250HP
+20% to Force damage. +20% to Max HP.
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You now remember Ubeelz
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>>1291023
Easily going to replace jeet in non-zeus teams
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>>1291023
honestly seems really fucking good if you've been unlucky lately. 270 power aff down that hits thrice for guaranteed weakness is really good for popping demeter
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>>1290921
Evasion is funny now. I love seeing retards not being able to hit my demons.
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>evasion a problem
you guys have phys demons?
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>>1291023
>AGI 291
What the fuck
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>>1290821
Who?
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>>1291023
>Epitome of Wisdom
>does not inflict ailments
>does not use magic
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>>1291049
Never mind I'm retarded
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does this bitch + camael mean you can have an entire team locked down??? they couldn't even wait till 6th anni to do this shit
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>>1291054
Her spirit chains are different, dummy
Besides with enough extra turns Camael can lock down an entire team alone
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>>1291054
Spirit Chains (Corrosion): -80% to Phys/Mag DEF. At the end of each action, Spirit Chains count is reduced by 1. (Max 5)
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>>1291058
how is this going to work? if you have both on one team are they going to color code the status symbol? I was genuinely asking, I'm not even going to pretend to understand this spirit chain shit show
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>>1291061
The only similarly is that they both stack up to 5 and go down by 1 each time the affected demon takes their turn
Otherwise it's a separate effect
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spirits chains not being cleansable is such a fucking gay ass design choice, obviously i understand why its like this but its still so fucking lame and arbitrary
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>>1291066
I like it, they're a non-standardised type of ailment. Expands design space so that they can release new demons that to brand new things instead of just rehashing the old things. Hopefully it will not evolve to generic cleanse-immunity-mass application and stay as a unique ailment caused only by one demon
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Is mikaboshi from raidou 2 in the Game?
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>>1291085
Nope
>>1291066
It's a bit lame considering even Gloom had Zenith at the time to counter it, but I dont think is that much of a problem. But I wish it could be removed the moment you kill camael, or at least reduce a point.
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>>1291023
is She anti bullwark?
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>>1291174
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>>1290658
Yes, don't listen to the doomposters and the seethers. All gacha games have FOMO issues and whales at the top of the pvp ladder. >>1290703 is correct, and this game is very generous even if you spend zero dollars.

I'm a freechad playing since beta and I've enjoyed it. As a new player you'll have it harder than someone like me who has played for years, but I'd advise you to start now and learn the ropes, then reroll once a new player campaign is up so you get all the good meta demons... because as a new player your biggest burden is the lack of knowledge, so you might make mistakes that will set you back a lot (like selling 5*s, not using Kanbari, proper brand management, etc.), so you're better off making a "test" account for now.
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>>1291229
>proper brand management
Share your secrets with us, whenever I sort through my brands it takes me hours
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>>1291232
>it takes me hours
It does, there's no way around it. I'd gladly share tips, but the issue is that brand management for someone just starting (who can still make use of 4* brands in some cases) is MUCH different for someone like me, who can just sell all 1-5* brands for everything that drops in Brands of Sin minus speed, hasty, and dodge. On top of that now that you have main/sub stat rerollers, brands that used to be instantly sold can have uses. If you have specific questions, I'll answer them.

The wiki beginner's guide is serviceable: https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Beginner%27s_Guide
And the brands page is very, very decent: https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Brands

My primary advice to anyone finding it hard to learn the systems is "READ READ READ". And after you have read until there's nothing else to read, then ask... because a lot of times for newbies (in any game really), giving tips about systems they don't understand doesn't help much.
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>>1291097
There were three months between the introductions of Gloom and Zenith, I think.
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>>1291023
>Activate the following Chain Effect when attacking first at the start of battle: 5 Elements for 1 turn
Oh no nono, 10 angel fucked

>This skill pierces Bulwarks
OH NONO
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completely hilarious how fucking hard they nerfed 10th, with indrajit conveniently anni selectors and then having his spirits up for grabs later, and now this
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So now that Ladon has bullwark what do you think will happen
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>>1291387
He'll be a niche inclusion on SMT2 Tiamat teams to cuck Apsu at best. No way a demon I already have merged up will turn out to be super useful.
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>>1291391
Part of me wants to use him for my speed team and just make a anti bull team. Too slow, but I desperately need anti-bul
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>>1291396
hold for the new bitch
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>>1291391
Isn't he good against the new fire/light T0 team? Lots of healing chains
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>>1291567
That's exactly what I thought when I read his upgrades - a bit of a counter to those nasty Kangiten + D.Lakshmi + Mithras + Camael teams, specially when paneled and transcended.
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News updates:
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096301.html
>Morrighan summon includes the updated 5* Lineup with Archangels, Echidna + Ladon etc
>English translation of Morrighan's skillset

>https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096248.html
Morrighan event is "Demon Alliance Invasion" aka the boss fight one
>Bosses are Suparna, Yatagarasu and Morrighan

https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096295.html
>"Hustle Support Pack": "This pack increases the maximum natural recovery of duel stamina by +5."

https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096289.html
>30% fusion discount for Megami, Vile and Night

>Vasuki/Ladon/Echidna P4 update releases on the 27th
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>>1291616
>whales get double duel stamina making it impossible for f2p to catch up
Bravo Sega, bravo
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>>1291854
Pay up goy. Or you can set an alarm to wake up every 2 hours at night to spend your fuel points, Sega is benevolent like that
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>>1291409
H-hoy...
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>triple motes banner have multiple cycles
oh no....
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>>1291940
You didn't know? They have 10 cycles.
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>maintenance is supposed to be over
>Still in maintenance
Eh?
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>>1293045
EoS
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>>1291854
I mean, you're not wrong... but it's not like there was a ever a chance for (you) to stand up to whale and other cetaceans without paypigging.
>>1291868
>he doesn't careful calculate and arrange sleep cycles around pvp stamina refill
ngmi
>>1293045
New time is TBD according to the site and the twitter. There must be some issue with the game. Apologems incoming.
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>>1293045
there's always overtime on maintenance
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>Maintenance is scheduled to end at: undecided
It's over. Dx3 soon
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>>1293102
It's utter shitshow, that's for sure
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>>1293102
>Dx3
Anon... don't tell me you don't know what dx2 stands for...
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>>1293102
I'm going back to dx1. Thankfully the servers are still working.
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>>1293124
Devil Downloader ?
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insider here
they forgot the password to the Dx2 mainframe it's over
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>>1293129
Yes.
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IT'S UP
GOGOGOGO

>400+ MB update
The fuck?
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maint ended
400 apologems
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Let's gooooo
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>cozy 20sec clear 9 stamina stages are over
>back to 5 minute clear 4 stamina brands
Pain.
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>>1293164
I really hate this boss event. It's way too hands on, but without anything entertaining about the engagement.
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>melchom comments are still up
what was it?
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>>1293180
Black Maria using the N word (soft R)
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I got 4 bitches from the 3 steps banner but not the one that I wanted
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>>1293164
>5 minute clear on BoS 12
Weak
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>click skip
>rainbow
>its a demon I already had but in a different color
I HATE IT
I FUCKING HATE IT
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Hasty brands or War brands for Morrighan?
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>>1293332
Depends entirely on how fast the team you're using her in is. If it's fast enough, then War + Destruct, otherwise War + Speed, and if you need even more then Hasty + Speed.
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HOW do I stop getting encounters
I'm trying to level
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>>1293337
Literally ignore them.
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>>1293339
They're stopping autoplay after every battle
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>>1293332
everyone else is going to go with speed hasty brands so there's no point in doing war brands for her since you'll be too slow to utilize her
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>>1293337
>>1293341
There's an option to disable the interruption, dumbass.
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>>1293335
>blocks your path
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>>1293387
Unless..
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threw did the three step and first step of the other banner cause of apologems and battle tower going on cause she would have been pretty nice for me
fucking mot and tzimiti
back to holding for me, i STILL dont have a single aff down demon
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So hows Morrigan.
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>>1293480
pretty nice demon if everything you have is shit/mediocre
wont break the meta probably, but will help a lot of people
definitely more useful than dagon, vivian, lugh and apsis just because she’s fast as fuck
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>>1293387
>blocks your path
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very hilarious the corner theyve backed themselves into where if a new demon doesnt have bulwark pierce its unusable, ergo every new demon forever will have bulwark pierce
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>>1293506
Yea. i'm a semi new player who didn't get the new units 01 or angels and have to use zues, Hagen,Kalki,Okuninushi because thats all i have that is good in my account . Now i was lucky to get Morrighan and will 100% use her because of her bulwark counter.

I have so much problems breaking Bulwark with my team and don't understand why people say zues is counter. I feel like its my brands but i don't know
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>>1293520
zeus "counters" was basically only true when bulwark pierce didnt exist
the counter is you would hope your damage is high enough you could either
1. kill squishy demons through their bulwarks
2. kill deme first with zeus+other demons
but yes now with bulwark pierce zeus is still good dont get me wrong, but not as a bulwark destroyer anymore
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>Morrigan mentions Dagda in her plan to revive celtic heroes to save the world from Vanitas
Uh oh.
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>>1293582
i would actually spend all my gems for dagda. i dont care if he'd be bad for my team, i just love that retard



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