why the fuck does everything costs moneyprevious thread >>1247019
first for fire affinity down
>>1276347Give up.
>>1276340Demeter! I love Demeter!
>>1276347fifth for fire affinity UP
I HATE Batlle Tower
>>12763477th for anti-bulwark pierce
Wild instinct (+EoF+6th sense) or life surge for Maria?
>>1276849I missed the registration deadline this week, and I'd rather get my ass kicked in there but leave with my 150 consolation gems
>>1276853Life Surge. If you already have 6th sense survivor and EoF wild Instinct is a bit redundant, plus Life Surge helps with your HP just in case you fight someone that only uses magic demons.
>>1276867that's not how it works, if you didnt register you don't show up i believe (and you get no rewards)
So close....Those are 50 gems less.
jesus christ my battle tower group is pure fucking cancer
>>1276851it'll happen and work like repel pierce for alilat and all the rest.
>>1276900you can still go down, a lot of player get their points right before it ends
>>1276907I love pixie
>>1276910I still have a few points just in case, but the two dudes below me failed to defeat my defense, so I'll probably be okay.
I just realized that this aura gate event would have been an excellent idea to burn through some of my talk tomes...
>>1277049Haven't used the tomes in years
>>1276340Mermaid is my wife.
>>1276899you may be a dumdum or maybe I haven't expressed myself very well (I'm ESL)
>>1277118>once had first place>now not even in top 10It's forever over for me.
>>1277267You can do it man, nevah give up!I think mine is around the top 5 or something like that. At first I did it as a joke, but nowadays I use her for stuff like kiwami or farming brands. She is very cute.
Newfag here, is this game worth getting into? I really like smt and the demon designs, smt 4 is my favorite game.
>>1277339no
>>1277339Absolutely not, unless you're either willing to throw a ton of money into this or restart constantly so you can grab the new demons, because PvP is basically all this game is now.
>>1277339No, unless you really like the pvp mode.
https://app.famitsu.com/20230906_2125663/Deity Apsu!>Passive Skill: Drop of BeginningIce Pierce. +100% Crit Rate. +50% Battle Speed.At start of first turn, grants Lydia to all allies.While alive, grants +1 MP recovery to all allies.While in Lydia, all status ailments will be removed and -20% damage received.When an ally including self defeats a demon, gain +1 press turn (only once per turn).>Active Skill: Primordial Roaring. 6MP.300 POW Ice damage to 1 foe. If successful, decreases enemy Atk/Def/Eva for 1 turn.Ignores Endure skills.
>>1277496He looks very simple for a 2023 demon, but also interesting. A shame that it doesn't have Ice affinity decrease, bur he will be very good when that demon eventually drops. His good aura is really good (heh).
>>1277496good speedy demon, if you don’t have one already
>>1277496Putting Lydia synergy on a speedy demon is a weird design choice
5* lineup got changed across the board i think? even for superior files? archangels+echidna+ladon
>>1277645They did the same for Anahita and Bulwark.>>1277663Scroll down, there's more but since there's no Tenma, it's actually not that good.
they should bring back the immune to ailments handicap
>>1277663https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096244.htmlneat, i guess
>you need 30 millions MAG for herokado
>Apsu doesnt Pierce BulwarkWhy?
>>1277663From what I understand is only for the Gem summon, that shit one, and nothing else. We will see tomorrow because if they changed it for everything that's really good. No more Thor, fafnir or hresvelger in the 6th step.
>>1277916Everything in the standard gem summon is in (almost) every other banner too. Apsu's banner has all of the newly added demons
>>1278002>Apsu's banner has all of the newly added demonsThis is true - https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096238.html
>>1278014>Echidna>Ladon>Vairocana>Atavakaaside from Xi and Maya (for compendiumfags) I don't think this lineup is that impressive...they should have added everything up to Arioch imo and limit all the fodder to fusion only
>>1278002I see, that's very nice. >>1278017I'm surprised they didn't include the Hallel demons considering there is no easy way to get them now that their banner is never returning. At least the angels are here now, and the sisters are in the subjugation summon, but there is no way to get Ose and Flauros Hallel.
>>1277496>be better than Lugh in every way>cost 100 tomes lesswhat did $EGA mean by this?
>>1277496>Lydia countered by a shitty snake no one uses
>>1278190Apsu is just a "win more" demon.Lugh is nigh-mandatory for brand farming unless you think your time isn't worth much.And I will roll for neither.
even with a talk tome these faggot ass mitama wont talk to me
>>1278509Ground them to dust, that will teach 'em
>>1278509Kind of surprised we still don't have Conversation skills, if just to help grab Mitamas.
>finished chagrin's questlinebros...i kinda felt something...
Apsu's out. I got jumpscared by Vairocana not once but twice in the new pool.
>New event is about Apsu cucking TiamatLolLmao even
>>1278886Calling it now, the ending will be Apsu dying and Tiamat planning to do the same thing he was, but with Kingu (one of their sons) as her husband like in the Enuma Elish.
>new demons were not added to summon files
Took me 2 hours to whittle 3500 brands down to 1200God I hate inventory management
>>1278919I just sell anything below 6* that doesnt have atk/matk/HP %.
>>1278946i just sell anything that isn't a 6* brand
Very funny. I'm not dealing with this bullshit for a genome
>>1278997>bulwark pierce fractional damageI was just thinking about this being the official EOS skill the other week. Glad to see they have it ready.
>>1278997>demecucks
>>1278997It's easy bro
>>1278997>when enemy gains a Bulwark>applies equally to Demeter as it does to fucking Anahita or some year 1 shitter's p4hurr durr durrr almost like getting 25% of max hp as a bulwark every time anyone is hit was a retarded move
>>1279040How do you avoid your team getting charmed and nuked before Lakshmi's turn?
>herokado's MP gain is party wideAngra is even more useless now. How the mighty have fallen...
Goddayumn the new demons are dogshite
>>1279090Good, chance to save some gems for the next broken shit that singlehandedly dedines the meta
>>1279092They didn't make them this bad last year.Even Sabaoth had some usage %Lugh and Apsu are yet another 0% usage demons
>>1279068I didn't even put barriers on everyone because they could tank it anyway
>>1279106Oh, that change a lot of things then.
any tips on the new kiwami for someone who don't have deme
goofy ass stage. they have around 40k speed.>Lanling activates Zenith for damage output>Apsu cockblocks Tiamat with Lydia's ailment invulnerability, +1 press turn>Zeus did most of the damage with Zenith elec weakness Keraunos, making the most of it was the difference between failed attempts and this one. +1 press turn was essential, enemy turn elec attack was insurance>Ladon just eats Lydia to get rid of the insane damage resistanceWish I had Longinus instead of Ladon.
>>1279121Show demons. If you have enough power you can cheese it with Zeus and Odin.
Why is the meta so fucking fast
>>1279315be thankful, slow meta is even more cancerous
>blue ball + demeter + D lakshmi>my 01 was hitting for 600 damage at best holy shit
>>1279319You're not wrong but I'm mad because if I make my team any faster I have no way of killing the cookie cutter slow team
>>1279439someone mentioned to me last thread, and i completely agree, that the kind of shit you have to do to beat that kind of slow team is so excruciating and expensive as fuck you just have to bite the bullet and accept you cant do shit against that kind of cancer
>>1279121I did it with my t1 team (Zuus,Pajeet,Asta) + uberpixie with silent prayer.
i think chi you is a nifty demon
huang long gaming deaddoes this mean i beat the game
>>1279525and my brute force teamgriffith had zero brands or panels and was only there to zenith chi you lol
>>1279447You can beat those teams if their brands are mid. If their brands are godly tho you are pretty much fucked
>>1279127how the fuck are you people beating this im barely getting a turn in and not doing any damage
>>1279764Use ladon
>>1279469He is really cool. It's nice that some people are using him in their offense party alongside hachiman and pol, really funny team.
>>1279800i aint got him
how do i make a demon good? what are good demons? why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?
>>1279891>how do i make a demon goodmax out their skill levels (if they increase damage) ((or do other things depending on the demon))get them good brandsgood skill transferspanels (this is the hardest)>what are good demons? depends on what you need, when you start, and what you already havewiki has a decent tier list if a bit out of date>why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?pvp is fucked so if you arent completely geared to tank hits you will be raped
>>1279893demons i currently use. everyone but astaroth feels so extremely weak, even if i load them up with big brands. how much of a difference does infusion make? i don't have much sin or the other essence so I've only done it on a few demons.
>>1279905you honestly have a pretty great set of demons all things considered, not perfect but certainly good10th+maria alone would be a great def team>how much of a difference does infusion make?infusions help a good amount, but less than brands and panels, you can get a fuck ton of sin RIGHT NOW doing tokyo abyss>everyone but astaroth feels so extremely weakat LEAST your odin should be strong too, what brands are you running on him?
>Herokado is using Kuyo Flash instead of Rending Fire for DemocalypseBravo SEGA
I been sick as a dog and just now realized Demo is going on, did I miss a day?
>>1280086nah still day 1
>>1279891>>1279905post brands
>>1279891>why do i buff up a defense stat to almost 2000 on my tanky demon yet he still gets 1 shot in pvp?Uh? Do you mean Phys Defense? Unsurprisingly that doesn't work that well just because the other fuckers are running 2000+ phys atk. The best way to deal with those eis high HP with high evasion, or using a demon that reduces crit damage.
>transfer fiery soul prison on seraph>he still spams trisagion
>>1280219Why would you do that
>>1280268because fiery soul prison hits for a minimum of 180 and a max of 240 instead of always 180 for trisagion
why are they giving away a free footslut on Herokado's login bonus? is there literally ANY connection between these two characters aside from "Japanese deity"
>>1280349Because the footslut is a fusion component for herokado
>>1280352ah, of course
I need colossal amounts of macca...
>>1280349>>1280352>footslutRude.
>>1280377for??
>>1280391brands
>>1280393wait for a brand discount week
kind of kino i wont lie
*looks at the scoreboard*>all those MithrasMust be nice
So is Clear Herokado the best version?I'm surprised they didn't rework purple into Almighty Survivor.
>>1280565Just from experience it's between Teal Hero Maskaado and Clear Hero Masakado. Most of the dudes on my faction say that Clear is the best for everything but mostly democalypse, but I personally tried Teal and, for now, it's nice against the usual Camael teams because you can just run hasty and speed brands on him and let him work as bait, while all the other demons attack.But if you don't even plan to use him on pvp I would say Clear is the better option.
>>1280565can't buy tranny stones for clear afaikyou still need a colored 'kado
>>1280657You can buy them for any colour
>>1280749yeah I just forgot to evolve himhaven't played much since they introduced this shit so I was a little confused
Bros is the server down? I can't start the game
>>1280763works on my machine
>>1280565>strength amp 3Not really. Teal is the best and purple is good against T0 fuckery (zeus, tiamat, etc)
>>1280839>Herokado in PvP>Herokado ever surviving against zeus/tia teams even past t0 auto losslolhe's a glorified democ drone now and Clear is his best color for thathis shield is kinda cool too
>>1280846>Herokado ever surviving against zeus/tia teams even past t0 auto lossskill issue
>>1280849https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/PVP_Ranking/Season_300>lower usage than poltergeist
>>1280846I am going to fuse one for the shield for sure
>>1280865>4 lucifer in offenseI wonder what the hell I'm doing wrong because aside of a shitty gimmick team I cannot make him work with my other demons.Also didn't realize this was season 300, that may explain the amount of players this time.
>2021>being in G3/D1 meant you were around rank 9k-5k >2023>D1 is 2.5k-1.5k>player count is still around 25k judging by the event's ranking What happened?
>>1279905if you can't even finance infusions, don't bother with pvp for now
>>1280922Maria, Demeter
>>1280997he should bother to get gems, but shouldnt nolife it
>>1280922Master exists.
>>1281031Master is after Diamond 1 anon
>>1281041Oh I read that wrong, nevermind then.I guess it's just because how the meta works now. I think Master 2 is around top 500 or 600 around the final hour.
>Elohim has more usage than ZeusWhat the fuck went wrong?
>>1281241163 agi
>>1281243>what is Botis with hasty/speed brandsI refuse to believe people are just running Camael/10th/Maria/Dem mirror match ups ad infinitum. Next offensive demon better be a literal auto win button to break this uber cancerous meta. Makes me wish we were back to Moirae sisters/Ahriman meta where 8k hp double IS + hp scaling move wasn't the standard, but EOS will probably come sooner.
>>1281246Naaaah. Sega doesn't make money when the whales have finished their teams.With the Maria Demeter 10th Camael team being essentially perfect they can't release anyone else to fit in there, so they're going to release a demon that hardcounters demeter and then a couple of months later release someone who replaces demeter in the cookie cutter defense team
>>1281249It would have to be a fractional damage on bulwark gain demon that would also have to do something else that's crazy to keep it from being a one trick counter like Adramalech. Then there's Camael. PvP is well and truly fucked.
>>1281241Dodgetank teams
are there any fuseable 4*s I should be working on fully paneling? I already did Wu Kong
>>1281289No
>>1281289Nope, most people will only panels their favorite 4* and even then, they hardly see any use because they are all bad.It's even worse for 1-3*.
I'm retarded, what do these numbers in purple (the 33s) mean?
>>1281388Trascend stones unlocked for each demons, in total you can unlock 50 for each demon you have. They give more HP, attack and defense depending of the demon's skills (MAtk, MDef for demons like Demeter or Zeus, PAtk, PDef for demons like Astaroth or Hagen), but the best thing they give is the ability to swap skills without discarding the ones you already have equipped and a bonus skill slot.You obtain said stones by getting trascend motes via summoning with gems, some banners can give bonus motes to make the process faster. You exchange the motes for stones in the Exchange section.Tl;dr Trascend stones, make demons stronger giving them more atk, def, HP skill swap and a third skill slot too. You get them by exchanging trascend motes obtained via summons with gems.
>>1281289Unless you like them, no. The only ones that can be useful are Agni (Fire democalypse), Baldur (Light Democalypse), and Belzebuub (Dark Pierce if you need it for something)Everything else is just fine and you shouldn't bother unless you like those demons.
>>1281241>Elohim has more usage than ZeusPerfectly Balanced as It should be
>rolled for Zeus>got Apsu>dropped Zeus for Apsu after using him for like a weekterrible investment, anti-tiamat lydia + mp recovery is much more helpful
>it's a lose 50 points at the very last second and lose 200 gems episode
>win 2 defends within the last 3 minutes moving you up to the next rankfeels good
>Master 1>used 3 pots to get into Master 2 and top 500>still on Master 1Shiet. Gotta do something about my defense because it keeps getting fucked on the last day.
>>1281809What's your defence team?
>>1282052been meaning to change it to a gate/blue ball team for weeks but never gotten around to do it
>>1282059>55000Bro what are you doing, you should be able to reach close to 70k with this team
>>1282080Best i can do is 61
>>1282108bro your>kangaroo boxer>hasty + speed brands>speedster and/or epitome of swiftness?
>>1282080>>1282109I don't know, I think even ar 55k speed that team os still good. I don't think sacrificing power for speed in this meta is worth it.
>>1282120>no bulwark pierceYou're not killing anything besides other fast/midrange teams
>>1282151Yeah that's true. I guess that team teally needs at least one bulkwark Pierce demon. Odin + Hagen sounds really good, especially now that anyone can get hit by chains.
I just realised that the standard gem summon banner removed all fusible 5*s and it's gacha/multi-fusion demons only now. Same applies to Apsu's banner.
H O W
previous post reminds me that i forgot to update my team to have apsu and almost immediately i lost a match because of not having 1 mpgood thing i'm in the gulags where only one other player bothered registering and not the CBT chambers
>>1282520The secret is that war brands are shit. 20% atk set effect is a joke when compared to 50% speed in haste set or 50% HP in life set
>>1282520I think 33 transcend means that they have the extra skill slot
>>128257430 isn't even half way down to the extra slot
>>1282821I just checked Top 100 PVP and there's multiple demons with 33 transcend and the extra skill slotBased retard
>>1282821You unlock the third skill slot at 33
>>1282821You can rush the extra slot instead of unlocking everything before that.Also the 33 number is deceptive because the last steps are more expensive.
>33fucking freemasons
Why does every fucking team have guedehehe now?
>>1283005dodge nigger
>>1282962Truth is, SMT was a mason recruitment program disguised as a video game franchise.
>>1283005easy combo with camael to force someone to attack and miss, probably
>>1283005Mine is P0 and I don't know his I should put him in my team. Sounds funny.
>>1283088many of these new meta demons have a miss component so you really should
Are any of the shit sold for gems in the store worth buying?
>>1283622PVP pots, so that you can get more gems (if you're good)
I can't beat avarice 13 under 5 minutes...Fuck I wish I had zeus
>We have confirmed an issue where "Mada" takes unintended actions during "Kiwami Mada Battle" of "Demon Buster Kiwami" which is currently being held.We will notify you when the correction will be made.Time to kill Mada before they solve this shit.
>>1283886He attacks instead of using his skill, right?
>>1283889Yeah, I think people were using repel phys to deal with it or shit like that.
>>1283836FUCK OFF
>>1283836>Avarice>ZeusBased retard
>>1284026https://youtu.be/sj7osKLckLo
>>1284040https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHr4wsbU8NE
alright my post-anni fatigue has finally set ingenuinely cant be asked to do pvp or battle tower anymore
hey its finally free footslut day
RIP dx2
>>1284157Isn't Dx2 still extremely profitable for sega for some reason? I don't think this is going to be that much of a problem.
>>1284184you underestimate how many times per hour a f2per can reinstall a game
>>1284192Yeah that's true, I guess rerolling could be used as a way to fuck with the game if some guy happens to hate sega a lot.I guess time will tell.
>>1284192>each time their game is installed on a new devicei doubt they would have to pay for each individual installs, that's probably not even legal.
>>1284610/v/ has covered this quite extensively and the way that they track installs is via IP not via deviceevery time you install a unity game it connects with unity's servers (even when it's a pirated install)
>>1284749>piracy actually costs devs money>F2P shovelware are a loss>unity asset flips disincentivisedThis is the best thing unity has ever done
>>1284765Nigger
>added Guedhe to defense and offense>start winning defense and currently in the top 200Shoutouts to the anon that recommended using P0 French nigga.
cant decide if this triple mote banner is worth it or not. only demon that would actively help me would be tiAmat, but triple motes would be nice obviously
>>1285123There's way too much junk in that banner. I'm going to step 1 and dip
>>1285163basically my line of thought, my offense is good now so i can only improve my defense, and i feel like pulling for good def demons from that banner would be a fucking nightmare
>>1285123Do 1 step or a full cycle if you need motes for that extra skill slot. Even if you end up getting Gemori and Heimdall you are still getting a good amount of motes.
>>1285171I'm still convinced we're one demon away from seeing Gemori being good.
>>1285179Gemori is already decent enough for a support demon. Decent HP, nice evasion, and excellent buff control. Her biggest problem is that you really sont need to use her if you have other demons.Even if they add a demon that adds 5000 gorillion power to his attack with boost levels is not going to make gemori more relevant. I think they just need to give her better "good aura", like more evasion while she is alive or more ailment resistance.
>>1282541So what you are telling me is that i should removed all my war on my demons and put haste
>>1285671If your strategy is to outspeed other frail teams yes. War is only good if you don't care about speed and don't need divines
>>1285671No because you'll lack the firepower to deal with slow tanky teams.
>>1280121sorry for the extra late replystarting with odin
>>128689710th
>>1286900Maria
>>1286901Lastly, astaroth, these are the main demons I've invested anything into, and especially in pve they feel so extremely weak since anything hard seems to have pierce, and I have nothing barely any drain so my drain pierce demon is pretty useless
>>1286902>>1286901>>1286900>>128689710th is a slow demon so he won't go well with a speedster like asta.10th gimmick is insta win if he survives t1 so health is good but bulwark is retarded since he has a natural 3 round full hp bulwark, give him guard or shield brands insteadmaria is the one that should have bulwark since you don't seem to have demeodinA needs to be a glass cannonorcus has synergy with 10th so replace asta with him or use griffith with focus on dodge
>>1285117>>added Guedhe to defense and offenseTeam?
>>1286901>37% HPTerrible
https://www.youtube.com/live/l95ClfCg1Xoupcoming stream for something
>>1287118Maria, Demeter and Camael. >>1287240That's the autumn update, we had the same thing last year. That's when they revealed Amon.
>>1287240additional infohttps://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096270.html>The stream is scheduled to last approximately 1 hour and 30 minutes, but may change depending on the progression of the show.https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096272.html>The following items will be sent to your Gift Box upon initial login daily according to the amount of days you have logged in within the event period.>Day 1 Spirit Stamp 6 (Sub) × 50>Day 2 Arch-Shifter 5 × 1>Day 3 Gems (Free) × 200
>>1287240>>1287249I'm hoping for another good bait banner, I need cheap skills and panels
>>1287256>bait bannerIf it happens to be like last year this demon may be really good.
>finally got a Demeterok guys you can relax, now that i have one they'll release the unit to kill her once and for all
>reach diamond 2>lose 50 points within 20 minutesI hate defense>>1287296Thank you for your sacrifice
>>12872962 more weeks, next unit for sure!!
>>1287296TDD
>>1287296Damn, I can't believe a new demon is coming out that insta-kills any demon that puts up a Bulwark, and bypasses Null Mortal.
>>1287385Either "allies ignore bulwark" or "enemies with bulwark take 40% increased damage" is a matter of time. My bet is #1, after half a dozen more bulwark piecers have been released and it's not novel anymore
If opponent tries to apply bullwark when they already have one break all bullwarks then bind all enemies
>>1287411Skills aren't yugioh cards bro
>>1287416>Skills aren't yugioh cards broBro most demons released in the past couple of years have a passive with more text than most yugioh cards
>>1287249>1h30mThey better have some P4s to show
>>1287249>>1287522I hope they buff dimensional garuda
>>1283900>>1283886didn't know how to deal with him but knowing that i pulled together a bs team and won against him ez
>>1287522i hope they introduce frost five
>>1287551>>1287522>buffed Dimensional garuda alongside LughSounds like a fun team. But yeah, I want a few more P4 demons. I thinking have 3 Frost Ace, 4 Flauros and 5 Marishiten ready just in case they get announced.
>>1287405>>1287411Bulwark break sounds like pure cancer, but "+40% to damage dealt to enemies in bulwark" sounds about right.
>>1287385>With Saturnus, counter Bulwarks with "Saturn Devours His Children"!
>>1287944Has Saturn/Chronos ever appeared in a SMT game?
>>1287964Saturnus has, and his compendium entries say he's identified with Cronus.
>>1287993Nice fire affinity demon.
>>1287997Not happening
are there any good 4 stars?
>>1288120anubis is good in dark democ
>>1288273>>1288120Titania also has a huge mag stat and can be built for any element with transfers
>>1288120Most of them live in democ. >Titania: good generalist; high MAG stat>Anubis: Merciless Blow and Dark Boost>Agni:Good Aura for fire democ>Ame No Uzume:Useful for AG>Baldur:Good aura for light democ>Zhong Kui:High STR statAnd there is also all those 4* demons with unique skills that can be useful like Titan, Alraune, Nidhoggr and so on.
>>1288120For PvP, the only "useful" 4* I can think of is D.nekomata.Alraune can be a """good""" alternative for D.Tiamat, Ganesha and Pavarti are "alright" against double IS and D.Abaddon is "" good"" if you need repel phys and fire.
>dreamed I had zeus>again
Do I have a chance to get to finally get to legend?
>>1288517lol
>>1288517Alright, I'm in the top 100 now, just have to survive the night and get into legends. It shouldn't be hard...right?
>>1288731oh no no no
>>1288731I'm sorry for you, bruvabut I wish you luck
i never realized just how fucking commen Demeter-10th-Maria-Camael defense teams are until i started randoming against them with my own, Maria-less Camael-less defense teamthis shit blows
>>1288780As an Elohim-Eva-Zeus-Tiamat A team user, Demeter-10th-Maria-Camael teams feel like fodder.Seeing Elohim deliver 4000 damage to them without me pressing anything is a pleasure
>>1288990Yeah the trick is to turn0 them. If you can kill 10th and Maria before the bulwarks go up you've wonI regret not rolling Lugh
>>1288998Lugh attacks after their bulwarks so he wouldn't work anyway
>>1288768>>128877130 minutes left.
>no change in meta since Camael, new demons have barely any usage>still slowly dropping in tiers every week
>>1289100The last few banners were pretty good and a lot of people got meta demons from them.
>>1289100>new demons have barely any usageHave you not seen the Vivian, Apsu, and Dagon teams? The only one that is a bit useless is Lugh but the other three are still common even in Master>Vivian with Hachiman,Eva and Ardha>Apsu with T1 demons to stop Tiamat A >Dagon and Vivian in 10th angel teamsShit is fucked.
>>1289121>Have you not seen the Vivian, Apsu, and Dagon teams?I haven't, they're too slow and do nothing on turn 0 so they might as well not existApsu is a good demeter replacement for speedy teams until you meet Camael or Ulice and really feel the loss of that one extra point of mana Demeter gives
Finally, and I'm never doing this shit again, japs can suck my ass.Shoutouts the Guedhe anon once again and >>1277118 too because I think he is the same anon with mermaid and Alice in devicon.
>>1289142You're welcome Anon.
>>1289142gz anon
Kinda surprised by how much these red beans add up when you're a luckshitter most of the year.Are t0 teams viable without 8man or the big ball of fire?
>>1290271yes
>>1290271holy shit fucking how?
>rank up>battle tower opponents are literally 10x shittier than last rankwhat the fuck man. last rank it was endless 10th+deme+maria, nobody had that shit this time
>>1290290How?Pic rel is my setup that works way better on randoming then anything I tried with Tiamat.Doesn't help that I don't have camel either.>>1290315About a year of saving + 15-20 from 1 time login rewards.
>>1290362your gonna neeed to go a lot fucking faster with that team1000% indrajit should be speed+hasty brands, his damage doesnt mean shitmaybe even astaroth too but i’m not sure thattransfer speedster to demeter if you havent
>>1290333Lmao, it's really weird. Sometimes you are blessed by the rng and get the shitties teams ever.
>>1290362with tiamatA any team can be t0 if you're fast enough
Stream in 2-3 hours.Wont be able to watch it sadly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l95ClfCg1Xo
Is this worth picking up if I'm a big fan of SMT?
>>1290658No, unless you're a whale.The game is extremely unfriendly to new F2P players.Your favorite demons are also probably unusable because of the powercreep.
>>1290674>>1290658it's actually pretty friendly to newcomers, you get tons of gems and you gain access to current pvp metaas long as you reroll
>>1290658no
>>1290658If you're looking for your daily SMT fix with PvP it's fun. If you suffer from FOMO and dreams of reaching the top do not bother.The game's fun and does try to feel like a real SMT game, but it's extremely greedy
>>1290674>The game is extremely unfriendly to new F2P players.Uh?
stream just started
>>1290731cool, expect new demon news in approximately 8 hours
lol, the MC is a fucking manlet
Heights
>>1290749>>1290748who the fuck are those 3 characters on the right?
>>1290752they appeared in the latest story chapters
>>1290752Did you not play the story? They are the main antagonists of the second season
100 free summonsfree selector and other stuff
P4s
Bullwark pierce lol
Icefags are eating good
They're giving gloom and bulwark pierce to everyone
unleashing brands are gonna get less of a pain now
new birdfu
Coombait demon! Finally
>291 agi
>spirit chainfuck
The new demon is Kalki+Camael combined.Bulky high support speedster and does spirit chain instead of reflect/drain.Get her if you missed Camael
>bulwark pierce phys based elec speedster
>>1290798There is nothing based about mag
>>1290782Unique SkillsWar Witch PassiveGains shock physics penetration. Damage dealt by the Shock attribute is increased by 25%.Increases the effect on his battle speed by 50%. Maximum HP is increased by 50%.When you are the first to attack and battle begins, the interlocking effect "For one turn, all allies are made to reflect magic-type damage, including all-purpose damage, once."When an ally, including yourself, defeats a demon, the interlocking effect "Inflicts one count of corrosive spirit chains on each enemy with the highest physical attack and one count of corrosive spirit chains on each enemy with the highest magical attack." While you are alive, all allies gain the following effect: "Physical evasion rate and physical hit rate are increased by 25%. In addition, all enemies have the following effect: "When in the spirit of corrosion, your physical evasion and physical hit rate are reduced by 25%, and all damage you take is increased by 20%.Ruthless Storm of Death Active MP: 6 (5 with SkillLvMax) Circumstance Limit: NoDeals 90 impact damage to a single enemy 3 times, with piercing and residual damage, and reduces impact affinity by 1 level for 1 turn.The damage is dealt to the enemy hit by a count of corrosive spirit. (Total 3 levels/maximum 3 counts)If the attack succeeds, the linked effect is: "For one turn, the attack power, defense, evasion, and hit damage of all all allies are increased by 20%."Damage from this skill is dependent on physical attack power.Spiritual Chain of Corrosion: Physical and magical defenses are reduced by 80% each. At the end of the action, the amount of spirit (up to 5) is reduced by a count of 1,When the count reaches 0, it is removed. The details of "spirit" are described in the "How to play" section.
>>1290768Does that say "phys damage ignores bulwark against enemies under gloom"? Because that huge
>>1290805seems like it
Looks like her spirit chain isn't the same as camaels
Not strong enough, even the stream guys are having an hard time.She's a skip sadly.
obv made with lugh in mind, doubt she'll be of any use without him
>>1290811>50000 word long skillset>barely relevant
>>1290755Made for violent rape
>>1290813She is strong but not "go all in" tier like Camael.She's top 10 material and slightly better than Kalki in the current meta
event schedule
>>1290810"Spirit Chain" is a generic name for the special debuff. Camael's SC is called "Indignation" while her SC is called "Corrosion".
>>1290813She's a win more demon, she's not meta changing.Will still roll the first step because she's hot.
fucker better win, i want my free summon
>>1290818>official X (former Twitter)
>amon was the demon for this timeslot last yearShe's very similar to him in meta role, aka she's anti meta.Giga speedster with Almighty reflect on T1 to cuck Angel 10, and she improves damage output of everyone with her corrosion chains letting t1 sweeps happen.The only thing holding her back from being anni or half anni demon tier is just press turn generation
>>1288731>>1290782Posting that image early was a sign I guess. She is very cute but she looks a bit underwhelming if you don't have lugh.
>>1290820I think her spirit chain might help break defensive teams, and her repel makes her a 10th counter. She has potential
>>1290824you posting that made me think you were the leaker
>>1290824Lugh has 0% usage rate in top 500, let alone top 100. He will never be used.Morrigan applies wind res down with every attack so she will always hit weakness. (She hits thrice)
>>1290827I honestly didn't want her to be included yet becasue I have no gems after the bait banner, and I'm not a whale so I'm not giving those jews any money.But I'm happy that she is finally included. I hope they add the other girls soon.>>1290828Oh I didn't notice ahe had Force down, that's quite useful.
note that Morrigan is Flight, which wasn't in the game before
>>1290835We didn't have a new race this year too, so maybe they are going to start adding other demons from the flight race.
>>1290835thought she'd be raptor
>>1290804Her attack isn't elec?
>>1290849probably were confused by the machine translation but she's a force demon
>>1290853Makes sense I guess, they wouldn't put out another elec demon of that caliber
>>1290842they should add all 5 harpies from nine at once, it'd be funny
Step 1 Lugh anon here. Is we eatin' good now? I have 32k gems and I'm thinking of building a Morrigan/Lugh/Zeus + support comp.
>evasion cancer meta againNew Elohim when?
>>1290804does she even have bulwark pierce? im illiterate
>>1290804>>1291018Here's a proper translation:5 Flight Morrigan G91HP 1028STR 218MAG 50VIT 140AGI 291LUK 140(Transferable) Force AcceleWitch of War (Passive)Adds Force/Phys Pierce. +25% to Force damage. +50% of own effect on battle speed. +50% to Max HP.Activate the following Chain Effect when attacking first at the start of battle: 5 Elements for 1 turn.Activate the following Chain Effect when an ally (including self) defeats a demon: +1 to the count of Spirit Chains (Corrosion) to the enemies with the highest Phys ATK and Mag ATK.While the one with this skill is alive, all allies will receive the following effect: +25% to AC and EV.In addition, all enemies will receive the following effect: When in the state of Spirit Chains (Corrosion), -25% to AC and EV, and +20% to damage taken.Cold Storm of Death (Active, 6 MP)Inflict Force (Magic) damage thrice (Power: 90, Total: 270) to a single enemy with remnants, and lowers Force attribute affinity level by 1 and adds 1 count to Spirit Chains (Corrosion).Activate the following Chain Effect if the attack is successful: Increase ATK, DEF and EV/AC of all allies by 20%. (1 turn)*This skill pierces Bulwarks.*Damage inflicted by this skill depends on Phys ATK.Aragami: Cleaving Aura / Force AmpProtector: Suk Flexi / Epitome of Wisdom (M)Psychic: Force Avoid / Epitome of SwiftnessElementalist: Elec Null / Force SurvivorP1 +250HP+20% to Speed. -1 MP to cost of Cold Storm of Death.P2 +100 Phys ATKActivate the following Chain Effect when Cold Storm of Death is activated: Decreases ATK, DEF and EV/AC of all enemies by 20%. (1 turn)P3 +250HP+20% to Force damage. +20% to Max HP.
You now remember Ubeelz
>>1291023Easily going to replace jeet in non-zeus teams
>>1291023honestly seems really fucking good if you've been unlucky lately. 270 power aff down that hits thrice for guaranteed weakness is really good for popping demeter
>>1290921Evasion is funny now. I love seeing retards not being able to hit my demons.
>evasion a problemyou guys have phys demons?
>>1291023>AGI 291What the fuck
>>1290821Who?
>>1291023>Epitome of Wisdom>does not inflict ailments>does not use magic
>>1291049Never mind I'm retarded
does this bitch + camael mean you can have an entire team locked down??? they couldn't even wait till 6th anni to do this shit
>>1291054Her spirit chains are different, dummyBesides with enough extra turns Camael can lock down an entire team alone
>>1291054Spirit Chains (Corrosion): -80% to Phys/Mag DEF. At the end of each action, Spirit Chains count is reduced by 1. (Max 5)
>>1291058how is this going to work? if you have both on one team are they going to color code the status symbol? I was genuinely asking, I'm not even going to pretend to understand this spirit chain shit show
>>1291061The only similarly is that they both stack up to 5 and go down by 1 each time the affected demon takes their turnOtherwise it's a separate effect
spirits chains not being cleansable is such a fucking gay ass design choice, obviously i understand why its like this but its still so fucking lame and arbitrary
>>1291066I like it, they're a non-standardised type of ailment. Expands design space so that they can release new demons that to brand new things instead of just rehashing the old things. Hopefully it will not evolve to generic cleanse-immunity-mass application and stay as a unique ailment caused only by one demon
Is mikaboshi from raidou 2 in the Game?
>>1291085Nope>>1291066It's a bit lame considering even Gloom had Zenith at the time to counter it, but I dont think is that much of a problem. But I wish it could be removed the moment you kill camael, or at least reduce a point.
>>1291023is She anti bullwark?
>>1291174
>>1290658Yes, don't listen to the doomposters and the seethers. All gacha games have FOMO issues and whales at the top of the pvp ladder. >>1290703 is correct, and this game is very generous even if you spend zero dollars.I'm a freechad playing since beta and I've enjoyed it. As a new player you'll have it harder than someone like me who has played for years, but I'd advise you to start now and learn the ropes, then reroll once a new player campaign is up so you get all the good meta demons... because as a new player your biggest burden is the lack of knowledge, so you might make mistakes that will set you back a lot (like selling 5*s, not using Kanbari, proper brand management, etc.), so you're better off making a "test" account for now.
>>1291229>proper brand managementShare your secrets with us, whenever I sort through my brands it takes me hours
>>1291232>it takes me hoursIt does, there's no way around it. I'd gladly share tips, but the issue is that brand management for someone just starting (who can still make use of 4* brands in some cases) is MUCH different for someone like me, who can just sell all 1-5* brands for everything that drops in Brands of Sin minus speed, hasty, and dodge. On top of that now that you have main/sub stat rerollers, brands that used to be instantly sold can have uses. If you have specific questions, I'll answer them.The wiki beginner's guide is serviceable: https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Beginner%27s_GuideAnd the brands page is very, very decent: https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/BrandsMy primary advice to anyone finding it hard to learn the systems is "READ READ READ". And after you have read until there's nothing else to read, then ask... because a lot of times for newbies (in any game really), giving tips about systems they don't understand doesn't help much.
>>1291097There were three months between the introductions of Gloom and Zenith, I think.
>>1291023>Activate the following Chain Effect when attacking first at the start of battle: 5 Elements for 1 turnOh no nono, 10 angel fucked>This skill pierces BulwarksOH NONO
completely hilarious how fucking hard they nerfed 10th, with indrajit conveniently anni selectors and then having his spirits up for grabs later, and now this
So now that Ladon has bullwark what do you think will happen
>>1291387He'll be a niche inclusion on SMT2 Tiamat teams to cuck Apsu at best. No way a demon I already have merged up will turn out to be super useful.
>>1291391Part of me wants to use him for my speed team and just make a anti bull team. Too slow, but I desperately need anti-bul
Kneel.
>>1291396hold for the new bitch
>>1291391Isn't he good against the new fire/light T0 team? Lots of healing chains
>>1291567That's exactly what I thought when I read his upgrades - a bit of a counter to those nasty Kangiten + D.Lakshmi + Mithras + Camael teams, specially when paneled and transcended.
News updates:https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096301.html>Morrighan summon includes the updated 5* Lineup with Archangels, Echidna + Ladon etc>English translation of Morrighan's skillset>https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096248.htmlMorrighan event is "Demon Alliance Invasion" aka the boss fight one>Bosses are Suparna, Yatagarasu and Morrighanhttps://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096295.html>"Hustle Support Pack": "This pack increases the maximum natural recovery of duel stamina by +5."https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/096289.html>30% fusion discount for Megami, Vile and Night>Vasuki/Ladon/Echidna P4 update releases on the 27th
>>1291616>whales get double duel stamina making it impossible for f2p to catch upBravo Sega, bravo
>>1291854Pay up goy. Or you can set an alarm to wake up every 2 hours at night to spend your fuel points, Sega is benevolent like that
>>1291409H-hoy...
>triple motes banner have multiple cyclesoh no....
>>1291940You didn't know? They have 10 cycles.
>maintenance is supposed to be over>Still in maintenanceEh?
>>1293045EoS
>>1291854I mean, you're not wrong... but it's not like there was a ever a chance for (you) to stand up to whale and other cetaceans without paypigging.>>1291868>he doesn't careful calculate and arrange sleep cycles around pvp stamina refillngmi>>1293045New time is TBD according to the site and the twitter. There must be some issue with the game. Apologems incoming.
>>1293045there's always overtime on maintenance
>Maintenance is scheduled to end at: undecidedIt's over. Dx3 soon
>>1293102It's utter shitshow, that's for sure
>>1293102>Dx3Anon... don't tell me you don't know what dx2 stands for...
>>1293102I'm going back to dx1. Thankfully the servers are still working.
>>1293124Devil Downloader ?
insider herethey forgot the password to the Dx2 mainframe it's over
>>1293129Yes.
IT'S UPGOGOGOGO>400+ MB updateThe fuck?
maint ended400 apologems
Let's gooooo
>cozy 20sec clear 9 stamina stages are over>back to 5 minute clear 4 stamina brandsPain.
>>1293164I really hate this boss event. It's way too hands on, but without anything entertaining about the engagement.
>melchom comments are still upwhat was it?
>>1293180Black Maria using the N word (soft R)
I got 4 bitches from the 3 steps banner but not the one that I wanted
>>1293164>5 minute clear on BoS 12Weak
>click skip>rainbow>its a demon I already had but in a different colorI HATE ITI FUCKING HATE IT
Hasty brands or War brands for Morrighan?
>>1293332Depends entirely on how fast the team you're using her in is. If it's fast enough, then War + Destruct, otherwise War + Speed, and if you need even more then Hasty + Speed.
HOW do I stop getting encountersI'm trying to level
>>1293337Literally ignore them.
>>1293339They're stopping autoplay after every battle
>>1293332everyone else is going to go with speed hasty brands so there's no point in doing war brands for her since you'll be too slow to utilize her
>>1293337>>1293341There's an option to disable the interruption, dumbass.
>>1293335>blocks your path
>>1293387Unless..
threw did the three step and first step of the other banner cause of apologems and battle tower going on cause she would have been pretty nice for mefucking mot and tzimitiback to holding for me, i STILL dont have a single aff down demon
So hows Morrigan.
>>1293480pretty nice demon if everything you have is shit/mediocrewont break the meta probably, but will help a lot of peopledefinitely more useful than dagon, vivian, lugh and apsis just because she’s fast as fuck
>>1293387>blocks your path
very hilarious the corner theyve backed themselves into where if a new demon doesnt have bulwark pierce its unusable, ergo every new demon forever will have bulwark pierce
>>1293506Yea. i'm a semi new player who didn't get the new units 01 or angels and have to use zues, Hagen,Kalki,Okuninushi because thats all i have that is good in my account . Now i was lucky to get Morrighan and will 100% use her because of her bulwark counter.I have so much problems breaking Bulwark with my team and don't understand why people say zues is counter. I feel like its my brands but i don't know
>>1293520zeus "counters" was basically only true when bulwark pierce didnt existthe counter is you would hope your damage is high enough you could either1. kill squishy demons through their bulwarks2. kill deme first with zeus+other demonsbut yes now with bulwark pierce zeus is still good dont get me wrong, but not as a bulwark destroyer anymore
>Morrigan mentions Dagda in her plan to revive celtic heroes to save the world from VanitasUh oh.
>>1293582i would actually spend all my gems for dagda. i dont care if he'd be bad for my team, i just love that retard
enormous fan of how this event keeps crashing my app
>>1293607works on my machine
I don't like this event because it can't be auto farmed
did they fix this event somewhat? i remember the first time with gozu tennoh it was completely garbage
>>1293480Very good, she lets you easily go first and gives AIDS to two enemy units which the rest of your team will then melt easilyNot a complete meta upset but you will be happy to have her
>>1293643They were updating it each time. I think for Rahab they reduced the amount of points you have to use when you accept an SOS, and for Tiamat they added other shit too. It's better, but personally I still think is the worst type of event, even if the rewards are somewhat good.>>1293582I can see them adding Danu for the SMtv event and then Dagda for full anniversary. I'm not a fan of dagda's design, but I would like too see it in 3d.
Chalk Eater is one hell of a drug
Just fought 4 Morriganh teams in a row which is a lot more than I can say for anything else since Camael
>>1293781>Just fought 4 Morriganh teamshow she dogood demonWorth
>>1293826she fits into literally any team if you don’t have anything better
so help me god sega fix this fucking freezing and give apologems by tomorrow
>>1293826right now she's nothing, just like camael was when he got releasedcamael quickly turned to cancer a couple weeks after, so time will tell how bad morrighan will be
>>1294117i mean she doesnt HAVE any cancer features outside of her aids, and that only matters if you have a phys team in which case lmaoshe's VERY good because she's fast as fuck and has a useful kits, but that's "all" there is to it, but she has nothing as fucking retarded as "you literally cant use your skills or skip lmao"
>>1294121I feel like -80% defs will have a big impact on the cookie cutter wall team, might shake up the meta
>>1294164It doesn't make much difference, bulky demons rely on HP and damage reduction, not on their defence stats
>>1294164What that other Anon said, you need 2k+ def to really effective and it's just better to stack HP.It really only fuck over Gog and Amon and both are irrelevant in the current meta.
>crashed during democ>outcome wasn't recorded>democ ticket got used up>can't use the team againwell that just kinda sucked
OTOH Morriganh also gives a +20% damage received to any demon inflicted with it which does actually matter
this is the best new addition to the game
>>1293727>gives AIDS to two enemy units which the rest of your team will then melt easilybut can it melt thru bulwark with a hagen who drops the affinity.
Guys, I think she might be good
I didnt expect someone to challenge me with his own harem.Too bad, his whores couldnt withstand the power of pure cunny.Also I need to update my team to include Demecunny
>>1294696Pretty easily
marici p4 please...
>>1293506This isn't the first time this has happened.Huang Di was the first and biggest instance of powercreep (trumping OG Masakado) because he introduced inheritable null phys when the only demons with phys pierce were Mara and maybe Yoshitsune (he didn't originally have phys pierce but they buffed him. I don't recall if this happened before or after Di released). Inheritable 'null <element>' I think wasn't a thing until DMC collab.I think that it would be nice if Sega started releasing demons that were absurdly strong but did not have an inherent pierce effect to their element. That way team resistences actually matter and you can make absurdly busted skills because there are a lot of inherent counters just from DRN defenses. It would also finally provide utility to "[element] Pierce: Weak" skills which are completely useless on everyone.
The next anni demon will have at least one of these:>affinity UP>spirit chain removal >anti T0>anti bulwark pierce>null pierce
>>1294954>Next anni is Spirit chain >new ability blocks you're agility to use passives>next demon chain blocks the agility of the enemy to one-hit tap you first turn till you're turn. making it so the enemy always leaves you with 1 hp and you with a full team that can kill them now.>next next anni adds Decoy>need to attack demon to get rid of decoy and attack the demon directly >new meta is AOE Pierce>Vishnu a comes back for a week before He drops because of the Decoy and demeter teams> is Spirt chainOH GOD i hope this happens
>cu chulain rejected thiskwaf
>>1294954next anni is fire aff down though
>>1294757I think I recognize that mermaid. Good shit dude, is nice to see to see some of the older demons get some use.>>1294881Someday brudah, I have mine ready.
Returning player here. I currently have Demeter and Morrighan in my roster. I was considering summoning on the Odin banner, but it seems unnecessary with Demeter already in my lineup. Instead, I'm thinking of focusing on the Demeter, Zeus, and Elohim banner to round out my team.Regarding countering Bullwark, I've been struggling. I keep attacking, but she keeps putting up the shield in PvP. Do you have any advice on how to deal with this?
>>1295203Whenever you attack someone -other- than Demeter, she'll put up a bulwark. If you target her exclusively, she won't put it up. That said, Demeters tend to stack crit resist and phys avoid to make it as difficult as possible to kill them.Bulwark piece abilities will let you ignore her as you pick off her team, strong magic attacks with remnant can be a reliable way to deal damage, otherwise just big dick crits on her alone. Full discretion, Demeter are a huge pain to kill without certain units (and some of those units are super limited - the Evangelion crossover units have high crit/remnant with bulwark pierce which work great). She's meta-defining for a reason.
>>1295203>but she keeps putting up the shield in PvP. Do you have any advice on how to deal with this?if you have morrigan murder demeter first, she wont make bulwarks if she takes damagealso with your demons yes, right now it would seem demeter+morrighan is a perfect base team, zeus and elohim would certainly help round out your team
Somehow I managed to get all 3 sisters with the free summons. Too bad they're dogshit now.
>>1295587keep around for ailment pierce
WTF is this new chick doing to bring old demons back. Is the def down really that big
>>1295675Is -80% DEF on 2 demons really that big?
>>1295675All three of those were popular before her
>>1295675>old demons back???
>>1295675What old demons? Tiamat, Kalki and Okuninushi are still relevant.>>1295690From what I understand, yes. It mostly helps other demons so paiting her with Tiamat or Lugh for example should be really good against tanky demons.
>>1295692>>1295697Not like the other demons. You will always see the same demons over and over Eve,01, 10 or something else.Oki isn't good. Kalki is not that useful especially in that team and tiamet is the only one i see with usefulness but only if you are fast enough
>>1295706Kalki is in almost every top100 teamOku, morri and kalki there are mostly speed batteries for TiA
>>1295706oki is the definition of "good"he is a nice demon that fills his niche and does his job well, nothing more nothing less
>>1295712>>1295713How about explaining more then with "good" Kalki only blocks pierce but every fight i have with him i kill his team 100% of the timeOku morri and kalki being called speed batteries is proving my point. what value does speed bring when you can't kill anything.>he is a nice demon that fills his niche and does his job well, nothing more nothing lessYou know who else does that. DemeterMay as well make her speedish and sin her for it cause oki is a glass cannon that has a shit cannon
>>1295706>Oki isn't good. Okuninushi is still really good because his main thing is still relevant, to be fucking fast. He works great as a speed fodder.>Kalki is not that useful especially in that teamKalki helps with MP and his main skill activates luster candy and healing. Plus he can be used as bait for camael because he has innate phys Pierce.That team has some really good demons, but I'm not going to deny that Morrigna has the power to bring some old demons back because you could, in theory, use her alongside dudes like Garuda, or even new demons that don't get too much use like Lugh.
>>1295721>great speed>mana source>revive with remnants to punish failed sweeps>anti pierceKalki just does a ton. He won't win the game for you but he rounds out a team very well>why not Demeter? She's too slowTiA lives and dies by speed. If she goes first she can apply ailments against demeter which is practically instawin. If Morrighan ensures she can break through the cookie cutter def team then all you really need to do is make sure she always goes first.
>>1295721>oki is a glass cannon that has a shit cannonNo one uses him for the damage. His job is to be fast as fuck and cure ailments.
>>1295706oki isn't good? figured they'd be good against tiamatA with their high speed and ailment cure
>>1295821If TiA has laid ailments on you you're already dead from the chain attackDefensive teams have Maria for ailment curing
>>1295821Every Okuninushi I've seen has had like 1000 HP, they are literally prime Tiamat food
>>1295821if tiAmat gets her ailment off you fucking die. nobody wastes their time trying to get a team bulky enough to survive it just so oki can cleanse and get a charge for his shitty spell
i have 9k gems and honestly im getting more and more tempted to roll for morrighan. my demons are fine but going fast as fuck is always very appealing to me
>>1295848I got her with 6000 gems bro you'll be fine just trust me
>>1295845>>1295834oh well, guess his only use is to get that "clear sloth 11 under 60 seconds" title
>>1295855>282 AGI + innate +95% battle speedHe's amazing if you need speed.
>SOS received>SOS received>SOS received>SOS received>SOS receivedThis event just plays itself... I keep getting stamina capped
>>1295855his use is to go fucking fast you retard which at least five different anons have told you
a very very very underrated part of okinushi, its not as important as his speed, but is the fact that he buffs and debuffs USUALLY after every other start of round buff/debuffmore often than not he can swing the atk buffs back to neutral or in your favor, which is crazy helpful if you're running t1
>>1295865i guess he really has no real usesigh
>>1295865He have brain damage, have some patience.
>>1295865Again, you brain-damaged monkey. Going fast doesn't mean shit if1. Tiamet a gets you first2. you can't hurt them3.bulwark is in play>>1295733So go fast as fuck and not cure ailment cause tiamet a isn't going to let cleanse>>1295724>great speedagree>mana source1 mp >revive with remnants to punish failed sweepsSpeed teams are a hit hard or die team not "i'm coming to get you" team>anti pierceanti do its fucking job you mean. Never have i seen that work.>She's too slowmake her fast and you got 2 mp and bullwark.>>1295723>He works great as a speed fodderpic relatedSo fast he dies
>>1295944>what is T1 tiamat>what is ward>what is enduring soul
>>1295956
>A hundred seasons ago in PvP the meta team was Herokado, Angry Mayo, Koga Saburo and Uber Beelzebub.
>>1295980cant believe how quickly ubeelz became shit as a fusable via gacha demon exclusive
>>1295964>okuni is bad because he can't melt demeter in 1 hit and stop tiamat from giving your party aidsIf you genuinely cannot comprehend why (his) speed is so useful then you're a legit fucking retard.
>>1295944Why are jack frost niggers always wrong? That spacing doesn't help either. (You), hopefully is the last one you'll get.
>>1296082>okuni is bad because he can't melt anything def including anything def with Demeter in 1 hit and stop tiamat from giving your party aidsFixed. The fact you keep talking about speed proves my point. Speed is all he has, but who cares when defense always has demeter and 10th. >>1296183Stay mad Okuni boy. Lets see how good a 900 hp demon is in def when all he has is a little speed. Even you fuckhead admitted it
>>1295985It's shocking really, he went from being one of the most desired demons to utter trash. Guess that's the fate of almost all the fusable demons.
>>1296330what even exactly changed? was it the meta becoming too fast or everybody and their mother having null mortal?
>>1296482The latter
Yep...
>>1296545h-h-he's fast!
>>1296545100k+ is going to be normal from now on...
i wonder if any whales are putting accel skills that dont benefit the demon on their speed batteries yet
>>1296545This teams are Abita funny to me because Okuninushi and Eva die to Camael's Chain effect and yhe other two miss everytime. Sadly this week I'm only on Master1 so I haven't seen a single good morrigan team.
>>1296560You're late to the party
>>1296560
>>1296573feels like this is a meme team
>>1296574Is it?
>>1296575yeah because the speed is just to ensure poltergeist kills itself so they can chain elo and 10th
>>1296575>repels your shitI hate the little gremlin but that's a very funny team.
>>1296570>>1296573oops
>>1296578Its not a meme if it works.
>>1296583it's a meme when you can easily counter it, that team has 0 defense capability beyond 10th
>>1296588huh wow anon you're right why dont you get to rank 1 and go beat him?
>>1296588He got 1st place so it worked well for him. Hell, the guy below him had a similar team too but I didn't take a screenshot of it.
>>1296594it's not about easily countering one single meme team, i'm sure the guy has different attack teams for countering people who counter his defense
i made it bros…im number one…
>Bricked my account gambling on the triple mote banner.I'll be free once they announce the next cancer worse then the deme/Zeus one.
>>1296545how would this even work on a def team?>Camaeldies>camael and 10thdies>anything with gog camael and 10thdies.It seems like its full speed and nothing more since oku is low health and asta can't push pass bul
>>129671901 wipes your team by itself
>>1296722not before Any of the demons attack you. Worse if they have demeter or Tiamat a
>>1296723Any of what demons? Camael isn't gonna kill 01 through bulwark, Tiamat might potentially be a problem but you can slap a survivor skill on Okuninushi and THEN wipe them
>>1296724>Camael isn't gonna kill 01 through bulwarkAnon Camael is anti bulwark. Tiamat would kill everyone around you and Camael would block okuni and slap him
>>1296727The whole idea is that you don't get a turn, I assume they have a plan for Tiamat, I don't know brother
whats with this fucking mouthbreather who cant grasp the idea of a t1 team? not claiming t1 is some amazingly powerful team, but just going fast as fuck is more than enough to beat a lot of teams
>>1296730>but just going fast as fuck is more than enough to beat a lot of teamsRank Gold 1
>>1296719>>1296724Bros it's just a anti-speed team. Most players run a fast attack team and would simply not bother trying to fight this than have to wait for their slow team to counter-sweepAppealing to people's laziness and lack of key defensive demons is not the strongest strategy but it's a valid one
>>1296734>Bros it's just a anti-speed team. Most players run a fast attack team and would simply not bother trying to fight this than have to wait for their slow team to counter-sweep>>1296730 is going to stab you
>>1296735but that post agrees with me, if you built your team around speed you're sniping teams you outspeed, not impenetrable def walls
>>1296752>but that post agrees with me>Bros it's just a anti-speed team>Most players run a fast attack team and would simply not bother trying to fight this>going fast as fuck is more than enough to beat a lot of teams>but that post agrees with me, if you built your team around speed you're sniping teams you outspeedHave any of you spent much time in DX2 PVP, beyond Gold 1? Speed doesn't seem to be a big deal there, since most teams are pretty resilient. It's not often you face another quick team. Out of, say, ten battles, eight are usually against high-defense setups, leaving just a couple where speed comes into play. You know how some folks always say, 'Focusing on speed means sacrificing damage,' or 'Speed won't help if you can't break through heavy defenses,' right?"Seriously, it's getting old seeing folks hyping up Oku and other demons like they're still top-tier. Demeter, 10th, Cemeal, Tiamat A, the list goes on. These new meta demons have completely overshadowed them. Let's face it, the old ones just can't keep up anymore
>>1296766not replying to you anymore after this, you're such a retarded faggot im angry at myself for even letting you bait me this hard>Speed doesn't seem to be a big deal there, you're a fucking liar because we literally see morrighan getting massive use in top 100 atk teams, anons have even posted atk teams that are based entirely around going fast as fucknobody here is claiming speedy teams are the best, that's purely your super fucking retarded brain making up posts in your headlike i said, last post out of me, cannot believe you dragged me down to your level
>>1296766Look at your defense battles. Look at how many attackers used a demeter/maria/10th/Camael team or its worse versionsLots of people use bulky def teams, most don't use bulky attack teams. It's too slow to slog throughA speedy def team discourages attackers. The point isn't too win def battles, it's to avoid being chosen in the first place, and maybe beat a few randomers who are specced to beat the cookie cutter def team
>>1296783>you're a fucking liar because we literally see morrighan getting massive use in top 100proved my point.>nobody here is claiming speedy teams are the best excluding all my stupid fucking post i made contradicting what i just said right now.fixedYou are the pinnacle of subhuman Gold 1 tier trash who thinks that speed is everything. It appears you firmly believe that anything past Gold 1 lacks in defense to withstand your demon's 2 million speed + 900 attack. Perhaps consider indulging in Genshin Impact or FGO.>>1296801While a speedy defense team may discourage some attackers, it's important to consider that a well-balanced team with strong attackers can still break through. Opting for a bulky defense strategy provides a solid foundation against a wider range of opponents, making it more reliable in the long run. Additionally, relying solely on speed might leave vulnerabilities in other aspects of your defense, such as resilience against status effects or versatility in handling different team compositions. Therefore, it's crucial to strike a balance between speed and defense to create a robust defense strategy that can effectively handle various types of attackers.
>>1296809Actual ChatGPT response. What is wrong with you.
>>1296822You're to fucking stupid for any other response that i posted something that even a braindead fucktard can understand. the fact this was you're only reply proves it worked.
>>1296809Post your def team.
>>1296839>losing argument>wants to see the team, so he has another reason to bitch.want me to post my sin and brands next. How about you take the L
>>1296844I'm not the same anon you're replying to. I'm just curious.
>>1296848Sure and i am Hideo Kojima.Maria, Demeter, 10 angel, Camael with a swap from time to time of Poltergeist and XI revive bitch. Pic related is my camael right now
>>1296859>invisible brands>this only happens with enemy demons
>>1296862Nice you just found out it works when you fight you're own demons too. slow clap for you
>>1296870factually untrue
>>1296870>>1296859no one's gonna steal your build you schizo, if that even is your demon
>>1296880its not his, go to def test and you can see brands, cant even think of where else you "fight your own demons" but if they show up in def test they'll show up anywhere else guaranteed
>>1296889i was insinuating it wasn't him because those stats are on par with the top 10 pvp camaels
>>1296875>>1296880here >>1295964 gif for you nowThe fact you both couldn't even admit when your wrong, even about basic game facts, means you can't be trusted with shit. Look at my picture. i am taking a basic Demon i have with shit stats and showing you that nothing comes up when you fight it as a enemy in def test. the thing i said was true but somehow you both dont think is real.
>>1296893well show the camael then. surely threre couldnt be any strange reason you'd crop out the background for him
>>1296899you keep avoiding doing the one single thing that would prove you arent lying though, so it's become abundantly clear you are lying about a gacha game on a sino-tibetan sneakerhead forum
>>1296902>says i am lying>make me post show my team as enemy>too stupid to see what i did after last post was me showing them how def worksi deleted the post cause of how fucking stupid you are. Not only did i post it with def test you still had been to fucking stupid to see it
>>1296905but you never posted a camael with proof it was yours
>>1296907just say you want to see my brands so you can snatch it you gold tier brainlet. You're never gonna see my brands now. Take Another picture of me in def
>>1296917but thats still not proof
>>1296917there's nothing super advanced about using atk focused life brands
>>1296917I don’t believe you. Not a gold anon either. Hopefully on my home page with Elohim visible is proof enough.
>>1296919>post my def test with my demons>ItS NoT PrOoF yOu DoN'T HaVe ThEmBrainlet kek>>1296920for them and you it really is tho.
I'm going to call this guy "speedschizo" from now on
>>1296925I'ma call you Goldchan
>>1296924But those weren't your demons.
>>1296930if i post my angel with his brands or better yet with better brands then he has right now. will you Give me a kiss on the cheek.I'ma remove all my angeldude brands and place better ones just to make you salty but i need you to agree you will kiss emoji if you do
>>1296932No, I won't do anything. No aspect of this relies on me. It's all on you for taking this meme game so seriously then backing yourself into a corner.
>>1296934Na you talked shit about posting demons. i post demons in def. you say def test isn't real, i post def test, you say i don't have demons, i post def test of all my demons. Now i am giving you what you wanted and you wont even accept it because you know you will get assblasted. I'm doing it right now and giving him better brands. just give me a kiss emoji and i will do it no joke. You asked for so much when i didn't ask for shit but when i ask something from you, you lose your shit and say nothing relies on you, as if you didn't start this shit. Be a man. you want my brands then give me a kiss
>>1296937Nobody cared about any of this, you side stepped posting a Camael that was definitively yours thats why people are making fun of you.
>>1296938The fact you genuinely believe this is fucking funny. Just to remind you this started cause you said 2000000 Speed can beat any high max wall def demon then deflected to other shit.The joke is you. Hows that not replying to me working out for you
>>1296942Nobody said anything about speed beating any def team what are you talking about. Are you confusing me with someone else?
>>1296946Do you have alzheimer's
>>1296925>SpeedschizoI'm not into drama and all that shit but so far this is very funny, especially when every other anon here seems to be normal, well, as normal as you can be being here of course.
>>1296966Nobody here is normal, especially people defending and arguing against a mid demon
Speedschizo here. How are you Goldchans, doing? I just finished maxing my angeldude and he seems better than before. Enjoy the shitpost.
>10th Angel teams with >100k speed
>high pixie 3>every def team is dogshit AGAINfucking loving my luck bros
>>1296724>you can slap a survivor skill on OkuninushiAnd then Zeus will kill you...
>>1297252The attack he does during your turn doesnt ignore endure.Neither does the attack he does when someone on his team strike a weak point.
>>1297263>doesnt ignore endure.read, anon. you already endure
>>1297290I'm not reading those walls of autism.
I wish BT had a side deck or something similar.
>>1276340recently download it and I'm blown away with all the AR shit they have going on, is it a pay to win gacha? My first 5* summons included Red Rider, White Rider, Baal, a viking blonde woman that carries a sword and Black Jack Frost, how long would this team carry me? i'm at chapter 2
>>1297329You get 3 different teams to use... >>1297354All terrible, reroll for MorrighanWell, you could go through most of the old PVE content but have no chance for new PVE or PVP
>>1297357I'll do the "old" content (it's all new to me) with those then adapt and overcome until the wall becomes so high I uninstall. thanks for the reply
>>1297354>is it a pay to win gacha?Yes and no. If you save you can get the latest "I win" button. >Red Rider, White Rider, Baal, a viking blonde woman that carries a sword and Black Jack FrostThey're complete dogshit outside of early PvE. Reroll the beginner banner for Demeter or Zeus (or both).
>>1297360Yeah, the game is fun if you don't take it to seriously. Just uninstall when it starts to suck and you'll have won out
>>1297362exactly my plan, just going to enjoy the ride
>>1297357>You get 3 different teams to use... I know but It still feels too limiting sometimes. For some reason, the game decided to completely fuck me up this round.
>>1297361I got 1200 gems, going to do the Step 1 for Zeus roll and I'll focus on that banner for the next 14 days
>>1297369well I got Kudlak and the penis looking guy both 4* yay
>>1297354Unironically wait for december for the new meta breaking demon and reroll for them.
why the fuck is there an evangelion mech in the game ? and it's even top 6?
>>1297372collab event, got two angels as wellhappens from time to time, even have gits and sonic characters
>>1297374well that's fun, any site where I can see all the collabs?
>>1297373is 4 or 1 good?the way they rank shit on that site is dogshit
>>12973765 = really good, amazing1 = awful
>>1297375there's the wikihttps://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Demon_Listhttps://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Shin_Megami_Tensei:_Liberation_Dx2_Demonsthe fandom page is easier, the collabs are ??, powers, witch, and machine. but some are sprinkled throughout the regular races like the berserk and DMC characters in the fiend race
>>1297354>is it a pay to win gacha?No. I'm F2P and I managed to get Legend last week, but you need to save gems and get lucky, but I think that's most gacha games idk.>viking blonde womanWhy does everyone gets morrigan but me. Fuck my shit up.
>>1297373This tier list sucks massive ass. The only good tier list in that site is the one for democalypse.
It's kind of insane how loaded Demeter's kit still is, to the point that she's still in every team after they released multiple "counters"
>>1297405I thought he meant Arianrhod. If it's actually Morrighan then he could probably get to gold in PVP without much effort
>>1297296go read his skill dude. Keraunos
>>1297408yesterday it dawned on me how neatly unnecessary giving her luster candy every time an ally takes damage really was. they could remove that and she would still be elder god tier
>>1297514I think the worst part is how she punishes something you can't really control. AoE chains? Random attacks? Passive counterattack chains? Start/end of turn attacks? Bulwark!Having to actively avoid otherwise strong demons because their bonus damage actually becomes healing is ridiculous design
Fast AOE bulwark pierce attacker when?
>>1297559This Anni unless you switch Unit 01 to his other color
>>1297562
>>1297564>weaker than Rending Black
>>1297559Garuda A buffs next month, trust the plan.
why the fuck dont we get leaks anymore? did sega change the code or some shit?
>>1297408also a good example of the differences between things like "when an ally is attacked" and "when an ally is hit">attack demeter's team>miss>they STILL get bulwarka similar example is the difference between "when an ally dies" (10th angel), "when an enemy is killed" (Indrajit/Sraosha) and "when an enemy dies". it's subtle but makes a huge difference (in being a huge fucking pain)
>>1297794It's always like that, even Counter works when the attack misses or gets N/D/ROnly funny quirk with the second example is that you can activate Sraosha/Elohim/etc. if you kill your own allies while charmed
don't forget your dailies to get that demeter
>>1297777Quads checked. Also, idk, people probably don't care enough to datamine the game anymore.The most recent leak was Demeter and Zeus but that was just Sega being incompetent.
As expected, she is the Amon of this year. Anti-meta but not broken, slightly worse than the half anni demons.Its nice that we got a meta speedster after a long time, Okunishi and Hagen had failed.
There's so many Morrighans around my 70k speed team isn't cutting it anymore...
I want to transcend my tiamat but it feels like she's 2-3 new demons away from becoming useless.
>>1298334That's the fate of every demon sadly because of powercreep.Just transcend your favorites.
I wonder if Vasuki, Ladon and Echidna will be used a bit more now because of the buffs. I'll try Vasuki for a day and that's it.
>>1298388>vasukilol, lmao even>ladon and echidnawill see some niche use for sure, i saw echidna pre-buff a not insignificant amount of times
>>1298395>ladonhope he gets used in every team with speed demons. Would be mega funny to have a full team of anti bulwark killling demeter
How far would a speed ladon take me. I wanna put him in my unit 01, 6th angel and astra for anti bulwark .speed brand + speedster + sin.
>>1298445>speed ladonUnless you have Morrigan or Okuninushi for extra speed I think you may be fucked.
>>1298445>speed team>6th and ladongood luck, i guess01 and astra are certainly fast but to make up for 6th and ladon you'll absolutely need to panel themprobably need phys and light accel on ladon and 6th tooalso mitami obviously
>>1298432>>1298445>102 AGIJust use lucifer if you want AoE bulwark pierce that much
>>1298445if you already fucking have 01 and 6th how the fuck are you struggling with bulwark?
>>1298388>P4: If the enemy becomes poisoned, deals 50 Ice (Magic) damage to all enemies with Bulwark Pierce.>50What the fuck sega
>>1298479>Just use lucifer if you want AoE bulwark pierce that muchsadly only have him at 1 >>1298481because def units are tanky as shit even with a 2400 attack.>>1298447 damn
>>1298508no clue what the fuck you're doing if your 01 and 6th aren't able to deal with that stuff, what brands are you running?
>play pvp random>it's the literal same exact team every single time>for only 2 monthsthis is the freshest the pvp scene has been in a long time
>>12763406 spots open in /smtg/. Unfortunately, most newbies I've recruited here didn't stick around, now we're close to not getting full participation, so it's time to recruit again. We always get max rewards and top ranking (e.g. we ranked in the 0.8% percentile in the Phys Demo, which is the most contested of all). Apply in-game and then reply to this post with your nickname so we know it's (you) and not some random fag. Just participate in demo regardless of damage, we don't kick before 15 days offline.
>>1298721toileti can feel burnout coming on but i'll try to stick around for awhile, depends how much effort democ takes
>>1298723I notified the Faction leader, acceptance can take a bit depending on his login hours (USA time).>depends how much effort democ takesEnter faction menu > go to Demo > click on enemy > fight > auto team > done. You get 20 gems per fight (120 total) for doing practically no effort + 450 gems at the end plus a red bean and magnetite.
>>1298740sounds good
>>1298740>a red beanI think you only get a red bean if you actually put effort you have to be on the 10% or some shit.
>>1298745You're right, it's 450 gems + 375 coins + 750k Mag.Personal Top 3%: 1x Red Bean, 10x Green Bean, 10x Prize CubePersonal Top 10%: 1x Red Bean, 8x Green Bean, 5x Prize CubeBelow that, no red bean.
>win every Battle Tower fight with max handicap and all side goals complete>4th
>>1298807happens every fucking time. no clue what the homos above me are doing to get their 2-5k extra points
>>1298807>>1298819Overdamaging adds to the score. So if you hit an over 9000 attack with e.g. EVA-01, you will get slightly better score if you attack an enemy with 100 hp left than one with 8999 hp left.
PENDRAGONUnique skill: Dragonshead (?)Ice/Elec Pierce. Ability level increases by 1 at start of turn.For each level, increase damage dealt when hitting weak point by 20%, up to 100.Level 1: When an ally other than this unit hits a weak point, activates "deal ice or elec magic damage (60POW) to all enemies.).Level 5: the power of the above effect is 80Unique skill: Garyu Tensei MP: 7 Number of times limit: NoneDeals Ice or Elec magic damage to all enemies (180POW) and increases the reinforcement level of "Dragonshead" by 1.Attributes are automatically selected depending on the situation.
>>1299000My boy Frost Based is starting to get heavily relegated after all these ice bastards joining the fray. He better get some hefty buffs when his P4 comes along or I'll protest.
In pvp, should I be prioritising revenge battles over normal ones? Assuming I am going to win and that I have a decent streak bonus active.
>>1299019If you're sure you'll get the revenge, then definitely yes.
>>1299000News in english:https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/096334.htmlHe's shit and will only see use in democ
>>1299044>Skill name is ruler of the skies>Doesnt have wings
>>1299044This I like
>>1299019revenge battles give more points than regular ones but won't add to your bonusIf your bonus is high you should prioritize normal/randoms because you get more points there
>>1299052It's bait.
>>1299044>doesn't even get their own bannerlmao
>>1299058Was about to post wondering the same thing. How odd.
>>1299058>>1299061Literally read his skills, he literally has no place in the current meta and only exist for democ.
>>1299000>>1299044So,he is getting the David treatment? No event, just drop him, very funny.I'll probably try to get hi. When he comes back at the end of the year because he looks really dumb.
>>1299000Looks like they're trying to make actually using the correct democ element viable again
>>1299112Nah, he's going to be in team 2
>>1299114180 BP with 80 BP follow up and +100% weakness damage is a lot...
>>1299117Not enough to outdo Hachiman + A.Lord + Herokado/Zeus for the first fight. We'll see though.
>Activates the following Chain Effect at the start of the 1st turn: Removes Barrier from all enemies, and then inflicts Gloom on them. (1 turn)P1 vasuki is better than fafnir
>>1299125Huh, why didn't they add P4 for Fafnir too?
>>1299127https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/096340.html
>>1299127Meant for >>1299125
>>1299130wow talk about gloom and doom hahaha
>>1299130Full gloom teams looking really juicy, though absurdly expensive
Lel they messed up and put Vasuki's P4 on Ladon
>>1299157I meant on the site of course
>>1298721how do I apply? I just unlocked the option to join factions and joined a random japanese one sad face
>>1299162Leave that faction, wait (iirc) 6 hours, then apply to (without quotes) "/smtg/". Reply once you've done that with your in-game name so we know it's you.
>>1299167alright I'll leave and join later today and drop my name here
just did floor 4-11 from aura gate, that was quite fun, I wasn't expecting this from a gacha game , tried abyss but that seemed like it required more knowledge on fusion and whatnot
>>1299175It's more that you need a good sword and shield for MCThe fusion strat in Abyss is to use conjunction accidents until you get something good
>>1299175you just need heals
>>1299221lol my strongest demon is a lvl 49 red rider , blade of terror for the eternal win
>>1299175Abyss is indeed a little bit more complex in that ideal builds require some luck, but it can be easily beaten with some cheese, but to ever reach that far you need a few sets of 5* swords and shields.>>1299219Not really, you just need Erlkonig and Fafnir. Whatever 3rd is optional, but ideally it would be Vasuki for extra poison chance, or another support that you can stack certain skills on (e.g. Huang Long with Mother Creation).
Somehow made it, but maybe i got lucky and got shitty opponents. I'm going to waste my gems on morrigan now.
>>1299345>rank 1 every timeeither your team is secretly crazy good or you are the luckiest motherfucker on the planet
>>1299345>oberonYeah, you got very lucky unless you're a payfag. I barely manage to stay on Titania 2 and I have most 5*s.
>>1299345Same. Almost everyone forgot or did only 3 or 4 battles. I was pretty lucky because everyone had turbo cancer 10th angel teams.
>>1299352>>1299351>payfagNope, F2P. I just got lucky and got camael early on. But I also think I got lucky because most of the times two or three guys didn't even play.
honestly sega managed to hit me with regret for the first time. camael is so retardedly strong and i didnt even bother rolling for him at all, i really didnt anticipate the kind of ass cancer he would cause
>>1299365>i really didnt anticipateWay before his banner ended anons here were in suicide watch because of chains. No excuses.
>>1299374yeah no i fully accept i'm retarded for this, i kept cope posting about how they really didnt seem that bad, but no, after dealing with them for a good month now they're fucking awful. cannot believe not being allowed to skip ever made it to the live server what the fuck man
>>1299365That was me when Elohim released. I completely skipped him because I wanted anahita, and didn't even get her at the time.
>>1299375>they>them?
>>1299386Camael and the evangelion units.
>>1299000>>1299044I hope they add more democa bots
>>1299365Just wait for the Camaelblaster 9000 bro
Why are you still playing this?
>>1299386>spirit chainSfuck off you dumbfuck esl retard
just got White Rider, God's Bow is so good hnnnng just missing black rider and the whore of babylon now
>>1299439EOL humor
>>1299438I pulled Morrighan
>>1299439Anon already explained what the plural referred too, dumbass-kun.>>1299453Based enjoyer.
>>1299614dominating early game, and that's fun enough for me , also 4 horsesman and babylon whore are my favs from Strange Journey
>>1299167Applied right now, game name is Gaebreal
>>1299438I thinks it's fun and very soulful. I think the only time I hated PVP was around the Uber Beelzebub era and partially the sisters era, but everything else was fine for me for some reason.
>>1299438because it's the only SMT game that lets me summon a Lilim in real life , go behind her, and watch her ass crack in AR. What, you need more? There's Tiamat too , oh GOD YES
Just save for anni demon if you missed Camael.The only time an anni demon turned out to be mid was Demiurge (worse than Atavaka at that time)
>>1299709really always bums me out how awful demiurge is. one of my favorite designs and i think the system he has set up could have been really cool.he's kind of vaguely good for alter world, i guess
>>1299709Demiurge will be busted once they release affinity up demons
>>1299717>affinity uphow the fuck did i never see this coming oh god
I just rolled a Vile Seth, what am I in for?
>>1299759uh...you can use him in the story mode, i guess?
>>1299760nice
just got tempestuous malice for a demon in tokyo abyss, what am i in for?
>do hellpark>10 merrigan appears in less than 5 minutesok
>>1299717>>1299743>Anniv demon nullifies affinity down>Gives affinity up each time own's affinity or any ally's goes down by an enemy attack
>>1299717i hope we get fire affinity up before we get fire affinity down, that'd be funnybonus points if the demon who gets it is Minotaur and he counters if his team repels an attack
LADON'S ACTUAL PANEL 4:>Activates the following Chain Effect when an enemy is inflicted with Gloom: Make all party members able to repel one Magic attack, including of the Almighty attribute. Activates once per turn.Seems like an Indrajit alternative for Gloom teams?
>>1299963less good than indrajit since it only procs oncealso slow lmao
none of these new banners are even remotely good right? they all look like shit
>>1299998If I had the gems, I'd take the Pendragon bait; it has a good lineup.
>Pendragon didn't even get two bannerslol
The Pendragon fanbase is in utter shambles
oh sweet, got a maria and on first try to boot
>>1300053They exist ? He literally looks like a generic giant lizard.
>>1300059Back when it actually appeared it wasn't generic, zoomer-kun.
>>1300064I'm pretty sure D&D predate SMT by a marge margin.
>>1300066Find me a picture of a "generic giant lizard" that appeared in a D&D (or Wizardry) game that looks like the Pendragon sprite (1992), I'll wait.
>>1300085I wont because I dont care enough for that.Wont change the fact that he's a generic giant lizard and not a dragon and that not even Sega care for him considering that he got dropped like a rock with a shitty kit.
>>1300141Generic things aren't generic if they are the ones that became the standard to be copied, retard.>he got dropped like a rock with a shitty kitPendragon is the unit with the highest AoE damage ever released.
>>1300054Good stuff dude.
>arguing on behalf of a pendragon fanbase who may or may not existthis is stupid
>>1300172I think pendragons are cool
>>1300172There dozens of us! Dozens!!!
>>1300150>Pendragon is the unit with the highest AoE damage ever released.He still wont see any play in PvP unless release a demon with ice/force affinity down for the entire enemy team.>>1300172Does he even have fanart ? I honestly forgot about him until he was announced in Dx2
>>1300191> unless release a demon with ice/force affinity down for the entire enemy teamWhich will surely happen. The entire meta now is affinity down + bulwark pierce. They're even adding the latter retroactively to units now.
>>1300191Lughbros...
>>1300223I think that dude meant Ice and Force affinity down on the same demon.
>old banners hachiman/hinokagutsuchi and moloch>gets two banners>the entirely new pendragon>gets a single bannerwhy was he added?
>>1300250to make you seethe
>>1300250To make you seethe.t. Daniel David Sega
>>1300223I have yet to meet him in PvP and unironically forgot his existence despite being a recent release...
>>1300274He is weird. He is decent for offense, but only if you have Camael, Morrigan or Apsu, and he sucks for defense.
Every time I get an ixtab it feels like the game is telling me to kill myself
got a kangiten from step 1 of pendragon’s banner. sure wish i had a team i could use him since he seems neat.
>Fight Orcus at AG2 floor 40>He gets curbstomped by the new demons in less than 2 turns.Guys I think the AG2 is no longer a strat PVE mode.
>>1300545i beat michael with a single 6th
>>1300545Just wait for AG3. Judging from sloth and deceit 14 it will be an absolute ball buster
>70% damage reduction
>>1300545>is no longerOutside of the celestials, AG2 stopped being challenging years ago.>>1300574Damage gain / reduction are additive / subtractive.
>>1300616only the last two celestials are even remotely challenging, and thats only if you dont have THE MOST broken demons
>accidentally missclick and use 20 gems to replenish stamina
>>1300617How are you in any way disagreeing with me?>>1300632Been there several times, specially with pvp where my fat thumb presses the wrong button.
>>1300635im not even trying to disagree you faggot, stop being so needlessly hostile and retarded
>>1300638>faggot>stop being so needlessly hostile >the histrionic deranged cries in pain while he strikes youTake your meds.
>>1300658my original post was completely agreeing with you, that only the celestials are challenge, yet even still most of them have been so thoroughly powercrept, because as you said, ag2 has not been challenging for yearsyou're the freak who somehow took that as an attack on you
>>1300664>keeps seethingI guess the meds didn't work.
>>1300671>>1300658Mental illness.
How do I cope?
>>1300873gotta go fast
>>1300873Anti-speed T-1 team
so this is the power of cunny
>enemy teams starting to put Makara Break or Silent Prayer on units, fucking over the Repel Almighty shit I need to stand a chance in this dogshit 10th-Maria-Demeter meta>there's an easily inheritable solution to everything except fucking Bulwarks and Chainsi hate this fucking game i can't have fucking anything. stupid fucking slanteyes
Finally beat this bloody Kiwami. Had to finally build my Erlkonig and transfer makara break onto Daisoujou to make it work, plus 18 min of slowly grinding them downEvery time I have to use Daisoujou I hate the fact that I don't have Oku or Lugh
>>1301059
>>1301059Open your wallet goy :^)
>>1301139they patched mada?
>>1301183The bug was him not using his skill right? He's using it just fine now
>>1301191lol
>>1301156Based fellow aceposter.
>the selector they gave today doesn't even have tenmaHow stingy...
>>1301324Is there anyone worthwhile on that shit? As far as I can tell only Orcus has some use
>>1301325Mot for democalypse, General Masakado for panels and his sword or shield, and Guan Yu for his transfers. Everything else is just there for completion sake.
>>1301382>his sword or shieldYou should fuse him instead if you have the mag
Why is Xana such a stinky gamer
>>1301395You can't anymore.
>>1301397>literally living out the isekai fantasy>end up surrounded by a fat guy, a homo, a nerd, an autist, a depressed 40 year old, and 4 ditzy staciesYou'd become a shutin gamer too
haha this guy's defense team is a big dick and pussy haha
>>1301480Based
Gog still workable with xi and no maria or demeter?
For the Demeter banner, which one should take priority if I want to do all the single player content? Zeus, Elohim or Demeter? And for PVP?
>>1301514ALSO, is the begginer 4$ demon worth it after reaching player level 30?
>>1301514demeter for both
>>1301521beginner**>>1301522got it, I rolled Elohim and just been fusing it with the 150 spare shit I got
>>1301521no
>>1301524thank you based anon
>>1301524ONE LAST QUESTION, monthly pack for 15$, is it worth for the gems? in my experience monthly pass is always good but this specific game seems to have a lot of traps and I don't want to be retarded without asking shit first
>>1301526If you are just starting don't bother with the monthly pass, because the main thing is that it allows you to use 4x speed from what I remember, which is something you already have until you get to level 100 or something like that. And at that point you may as well not bother and just become a f2p player like most of us.That said, from what I've seen the monthly pass is probably the only good offer you can get in this game because everything else is too expensive or just sucks.
>>1301535alright thank you very much for the information
>>1301511No
as someone who has no idea wtf am I'm doing , is this a good team for the current season?Red RiderElohimSraoshaErlkonig ? thank you in advance
>>1301541NoUse Elohim and Sraosha, and then 2 other demons that make your team as fast as possible. Everyone is using fast teams so your best chance is outspeeding them since you don't have the meta defensive demons
>>1301545alright and how about for pve? is this good enough to farm morrigan points for the raid?
>>1301541I assume by current season you are talking about pvp right? This may be an oversimplification but your team needs some kind of synergy.Red Rider is a phys demon with middling speed, Elohim is a fast magic nuker, Sraosha is a fast gimmicky phys demon and erlkonig is a slow healer, so they don't fit together that well, only Sraosha and Elohim do. That kind of team only works for story content and other pve stuff.I'd recommend that you use demons with slower Agility and high HP alongside each other, same with demons with high agility and high strength/magic.For example, for early bronze you could use Elohim, Sraosha and fuse two other fast demons like Garuda and Hresvelgr for the time being so you can kill everyone in a single turn. Always try to read the skill descriptions and see the demons stats when you are making a team.I have problems explaining this after being used to making teams for at least a year, but I hope this somewhat helps.
>>1301547I meant it more as the current single player content like raid points and whatever other pve content is
>>1301549In that case you can use anything you want for pve. Elohim is nice for everything because he destroys most demons.For this event I would recommend using demon that have extra SP effects to earn more rewards. You can check the demons here https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/096248.html
>>1301551excellent thank you
>>1301549- Demeter is so meta, most of the future units will have bulwark pierce in some capacity because of her.- Zeus is extremely good in PvE, and an unmovable part of democalypse.- Elohim is still a great nuker, but has gone down in value due to bulwark-piercers.If you're doing re-rolls, prioritize Demeter first, Zeus second, Elohim third. All three make PvE much easier, but Demeter takes the cake there.
>>1301651>If you're doing re-rolls, prioritize Demeter first, Zeus second, Elohim third. All three make PvE much easier, but Demeter takes the cake there.why not demeter and the new angel
>>1301652What new angel? Do you mean Morrigan? If so, yes.
>tfw no art of Morrigan and Gabriel teaming up on IndrajitWhy even live
I wonder if the next event is going to be a collab rerun considering they just shadowdropped pendragon the same way the did with David 2 years ago.
>>1301811Please if it is be DMC so we get buffs for those units
Is P4 nergal good if I have tiamat? Idk what to do with the choice files
>>1301838no it needs to be bayo, i have a bunch of beloved that never received panels
>>1301851Get Masakado for the sword / shield.
>>1301851Just save your choice files
>>1301838Considering that DMC is getting a Netflix series it's entirely possible.
>>1301854I already have both
Oh shit i didn't know lucifer Morning Star had Bulwark Pierce. Now i gotta find out the easiest way to make one
How do I make a good Michael?
>>1301956Unfortunately Michael is too based for the world of mobage, so he's no used besides for Light Democalypse.
>>1301956build a time machine first
>>1301959I'm gonna use him either way, should I just copy the first place then?
>>1301978His "optimal" build once fully paneled and transcended is teal with Light Amp + Light Accele + Light Survivor, or Great Idea instead of the latter if you have it (it's a very rare transferable skill). For democalypse it would be Light Amp + Light Enhancement + Merciless Blow.
>>1301978you shouldn't copy any of the ones at first place, their entire build is purely to be #1 not number one in pvp or pve just #1
>>1301993How does that work?
>>1301993Not always. A lot of demons benefit from having Great Idea, which also boost the rating.>>1301997Every unit can have a Devicon rating that is based on its stat allocation and its respective "weights". A lot of demons will have Great Idea (+20 to all stats) exclusively to boost the rating to they can be at the top, and will even add Str/Mag Amp II and III also to boost it higher, and sometimes use wrong brands just because the stat weight favours stats that aren't meta.For example, I have the No.1 Frost Ace. His main stat weight is Phys Ac%, so my brands maximize that, despite Mag Atk% being better for his damage.
>>1302003how do you find out what a demons main stat weight is?
>>1302016For me at least, it was trial and error and comparing stats with the scores. e.g. comparing brands with the same stats except for one and then cross-referencing and writing down how much the score would increased when I leveled the brand, and then repeat over hundreds of brands. I imagine discordfaggots must have data-mined the actual values, but I refuse to use discord.
>>1302026i don't partake with the discord, i only go there to look for tips and tricks on challenges and stuffbut i can't see anyone mention what it is you're talking about so you're either the first one to discover this or everyone else is keeping it to themselfgonna disappear for a few days tryna find the stat weight of my princesswant to obliterate any hope of anyone trying to take my #1 position
>>1302092Godspeed mermaidbro
is there a site where I can see tiers of current demons?
>>1302095https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Tier_List
>>1302102thank you
>>1302003>For example, I have the No.1 Frost Ace. His main stat weight is Phys Ac%,What the fuck, I didn't know this was a thing. I guess I'll try to see what's Mermaid and Demeter's main stat then.
If I see another 100k speed team with Demeter and 10th Angel I'm gonna uninstall
>>1302138How far can I progress in PvP with this account? I feel like i messed up and ended up making a alt with demeter,ardha,Morrighan,indrajit,anahita. I don't know what i am doing right now but pic is gem drained while new one is in story 7 only.
>>1302168First 5 demons there are insanely good and fast teams are all the rage right nowKeep it
>>1302177How do i fight Demeter teams? I keep seeing Demeter with 10 and the other angel guy and i don't know what would be best to counter them. any advice for pvp
>>1302168Morrigan, Hagen, Kalki and Zeus. Great speedy team. You'll probably reach gold 1 with it. Replace Zeus, Kalki or Hagen with Okuni if you need to outspeed someone. >>1302179Unfortunately you started playing after the 5.5 anni event so you missed the free Indrajit (10th angel's counter) IMO you should ignore those teams for now if you can't deal with them and focus on outspeeding other fast teams. Keep refreshing if you have to. If you still want to try then try getting rid of 10th angel first, then Maria and Camael. Leave demeter for last since she can't do much on her own unless they gave her recarmdra. Easier said than done.
>>1302168>Morrigan>Hagen>Kalki>Zeus>OkuninushiThose are great for a fast team, you just need some good brands.>>1302179Morrigan helps with that a lot because she has both bulwark pierce and activates repel Almighty.
>>1302092>you're either the first one to discover this or everyone else is keeping it to themselfMight be the case. I don't think anyone here is coming for my Frost Ace spot, since No.1 place ultimately comes down to having perfectly-weighted brands (which takes a LOT of luck and time)... but I also wouldn't share my notepad showing what is Frost Ace's rating for each point of every single stat found in the game. Good luck.
what demon do I need to be able to transfer fire boost/ the equivalent of boosting fire power ?
>>1302366You can use the wiki for thathttps://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Fire_BoostAgni and Prometheus have fire boost as their main transfer skill, the others get it as their archetype bonus transferable skill in those colors
>>1302134>I'll try to see what's Mermaid and Demeter's main stat then.Keep us informed, I'm curious too.
>>1302366Fuse a clear-archeype prometheus:>https://oceanxdds.github.io/dx2_fusion/#en
>>1302179Attack 10th with Morrighan and then Zeus
what does a Premium Start and Restart Summon File 2 does? and what's the difference between a 1 or 2 ? does it gives me a choice to summon a specific demon or is it from random pool ? how do I see the pool?
>>1302590after doing a bit of research, both summon files are to roll for Zeus. Demeter or Elohim? as in, you get two tickets to get a chance to summon those, but randomly? someone correct me, one costs $25 the other $75
>>1302590>>1302592Choice Files look like a magnifying glass and let you choose which demon you want, summon files look like a document and give you a random one
>>1302598went all in, got one Zeus and one Makado A, Elohim from the free banner, no Demeter but I'm not aiming for that FUCK feels good
2 points away from rank up
Random tip: Login only after the weekly mission resets so you can get the "Obtain a Login Bonus" mission a day earlier.
old shitpost i found in my downloads folder, made a few weeks after BT was released and before we got kicked out of /smtg/
>>1302765Nice
genuinely annoyed ive played for like two years and some change and somehow never once pulled ulice
>event only has a few days left>still only 80 SOS doneGetting 200 SOS is impossible holy shit.
>>1302809i just broke 100, i did like 50 in the first day and i just cant stomach this shit any longer, the fucking freezing doesnt help
>>1302804I got two of them from the free summons
>>1302765>before we got kicked out of /smtg/should have never bent the knee to those queers
pretty lucky getting erl this early
ive accepted just being hardstuck d1my def team is so fucking shit and i cant be asked to keep up with nips on saturdays to stop bleeding 300+ points over night while drunk
stop making me feel retarded for being a no-re-roll f2pI got bounced from Silver because I slept late
It feels good being a f2p player and be in legend or master regularly. I just wish I had Hachiman and Morrigan because I would love to use a T1 team.
>>1302962should i actually fucking roll for hachiman? im ALMOST T0 right now, oku/elo/6th/demehe wouldn't help for shit with this, right?also should i just fucking roll for morrigan? i cant stop thinking about swapping 6th out for her but i have shitty luck
>>1302977Hachiman is for auto-attack meme teams, he doesn't mesh with regular phys attackers and definitely not 3 magic users
>>1302981that's right, i always forget he's only there for phys
How good is my team? Currently got Zeus, Elohim , Morrighan and Sraosha . None of them at 50 yet
>>1303010pretty damn good. no deme but thats enough to not reroll in my eyes
>>1303024just leveling them up and doing raid , yeah I'm sticking with them
>do the night festival banner>get ladon and sraosha as my guaranteeds>only non-guaranteed was pendragonmy defense team is never improving at this rate
