NB is the only one for possibility of coom, Unending Dawn and Mugen might have fun gameplay.
>exploration
Lmao

>>1267589
>open world anime
Mid

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>>1267688
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTBln6u0gps
Jank
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1wg827wEcE
Wannabe seven deadly sins origin game
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUItXaoCwkc
Didn’t even try lmao, the re zero game sucks as much as the anime lmao at least the performance will be good looking at the graphics
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9DX1NsYpMU
True ue5 experience
> Infinity Nikki is coming to PC, PS5, PS4, Android, and iOS devices
Wait wuuuuuhhh, I thought it was a PlayStation only game the graphics will not look like that on mobile even on max lmao
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlaFVaqvcgg
Kino though the grass got downgraded
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_EKg8px80
I have no faith in Korean mmos
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPKkDQPLQ0
Gay mid grim
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAPIKxrSDw
Good enough, would pay £10 at most for it thouhh

Overall carx street solos

>>1267589
Unending Dawn is not a gacha tho?

Not a fag but the only game I'm waiting for from that list is infinity nikki

nb looks like they outright copied mondstadt, genshin star rail at home for you, guys
re:zero looks like a 90mb 3d adventure pokemon game i played on an old toaster
some are decent enough to play at least for 2 days, assuming if they're mobagacha.
project mugen seems like they have the cutest girls out of the bunch, prime for children correction. though i detest its kind of music style, vocal song is torturous just like those shitty anime during the golden of days of anime when they just try to imitate whatever from western culture (glad to not be there during that time). also can't you say anything other than how 'omoshiroi' it's gonna be (begin of trailer).

also does zenless zone zero count? though the combat doesn't look like anything really engaging or exciting

I like how everyone shits on the RE:Zero game

>>1267797
are you sure?

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I'm waiting for Project OS by Kong Studios, though it'll probably won't be gacha because it's being developed for PC and consoles, not mobile

>>1267860
UI feels more PC/Console, and I didn't see any info about it being gacha.

>>1267850
With such asset quality it could have chance like in 2012 at max

>>1267726
certified shit taste

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only excited for mugen
game looks the most different of all these open world waifu gachas
i think the urban setting makes it stand out, while most of the others are in some fantasy setting with non-existent modern touch
gameplay already looks fun
if what they showed plays exactly like that on release, it could be one of the best open world gacha games to date
the grapple swing looks addicting, the open world feels fun to explore with a car or a bike or something, activities/hangouts are confirmed, open world traversal wont feel like a slog due to no limits of running and stuff
i already love the visuals and aesthetics, feels like they are going for a similar style to zzz
not too sold out on character designs though, would like to see some more designs before i make a judgement
>>1267815
>also does zenless zone zero count?
nope
it is not an open world
i like that actually
not every game has to be open world
zzz's hub looks incredibly fleshed out
i like how much effort hoyo has put to make it polished and expressive

Chinks really love the word project

>>1268137
It's just gamedev things, but yeah it's usually asian studios that don't bother naming, sometimes until the very release, and just stay with "project smth"

>>1268115
>only excited for mugen
looks the best imo

>>1268115
>men with beach gear at the beach
>women wear full on clothes at the beach
wtf is this, a muslim game??

>>1268772
It's chink trying to mass appeal so might as well be. Expect genshin-tier faggotry in terms of character design.

>Taffy
>Bansy
I wonder who the free characters are
https://twitter.com/ProjectMugen_EN/status/1695103746575941861
https://twitter.com/ProjectMugen_EN/status/1695828517941043336

talk about over-exaggerated proportions
https://twitter.com/yongsadragon/status/1695244192115572974

RIP
https://twitter.com/WW_devteam/status/1698999422821236814

hope all these games get private servers when they inevitably flop.

ToF was just the first of many failures

why do homoverse™ faggies come to other generals and threads to shitpost and doompost other games instead of playing their homoverse™ slop?

>>1277479
>ToF was just the first of many failures
It's still alive though, no?

>>1277647
b-b-but it is not making 6 gorillion dorarridoo like heccin genshart poopact!

>>1277563
Need to take out their frustration from 1+ year of no new female banner somewhere.

The main issue with Project Mugen is Netease.

It's game developer and published simultaneously. The company usually create interesting games by design, something like Fortnite but with anime girls and mechas.

HOWEVER
All their games are dying due to lack of optimization, absurd ping and other stuff.

So if Mugen will be similar to their other game it literally will unplayable.

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>>1277889
>Netease.
>It's game developer and published simultaneously. The company usually create interesting games by design, something like Fortnite but with anime girls and mechas.
Their games are fine, their most popular game identity v is more popular than dead by daylight mobile by 10 to 1. And the optimisation in their games are ok.

Apart from identity v they don't have any other flagship titles. The other games don't have much downloads due to it not really diffreanciating too much from the competition. Identity v is a lot different though where they looked at the market and made a dead by dalyight game on mobile a lot more tolerable by makimg it look quite cartoony.

No one really wants another fortnite clone anime nonetheless, the battle royale space is already ran by tencent with pubg mobile.

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>>1277902
Like seriously how is this dying lmao? Their main flagship game has a really high userbase. More than double that genshin has. 300 million vs 130 million, due to the game being more optimised and a loooot lower in terms of storage. Genshin players pay a lot more in cash though.

https://www.pocketgamer.com/identity-v/300-million-downloads/
>Genshin Impact has been downloaded 139.5 million times since its release.
https://www.businessofapps.com/data/genshin-impact-statistics/#:~:text=Source%3A%20Statista-,Genshin%20Impact%20Downloads,million%20times%20since%20its%20release.

>>1277902
>>1277908
its just fearmongering from homoverse troons
this happens every fucking time a new open world anime waifu game is revealed or released
these faggies literally cannot help but shitpost and doompost every single game that may seem like a competitor to their glorious nu-homoverse slop gayshit fagpact
admittedly, tower of fantasy was crap, but they have been doomposting other games that havent even released yet as well, while their own slop is a total shitshow due to censorship of female characters and faggy male characters

>>1268098
Cope bro, most of those anime open world games suck and have a lot of red flags. And Koreans can’t make mmos to save their lives.

>>1267726
Dragon sword d does look like an upgrade from other games like dragon raja though, characters have better facial animations and actuality cry and the graphics look like a real nice upgrade. Still, Korean gatcha suck dick.

>>1278929
> gatcha
I meant mmos
I’ve tried playing them ever since I was a kid 7+ years ago, they just suck, especially bdo. That was a gay game and the first game I refunded on steam.

>>1278066
Lol but true

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wuthering waves is healing

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>>1280664
That's good I guess. I sent them feedback about the female designs and one of my main complaints was that it was hard to make what they were wearing as they all had like 6 different layers of different clothing. Also attached this edit.
Bailian is literally night and day. Hopefully they also fix Chixia.

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>>1280664
>>1281293

>>1280664
>>1281293
Do people still care about this game after the beta turned out to be a complete wet fart? They have a lot more to do than just unfuck the designs.

>>1282311
Who knows. Designs can literally sell a game so it's good that they at least listened to that. I'm still hoping they add vehicles.

>>1282317
I find the character models also look really weird so the designs are not the only thing they fucked up. It's just bizarre that they got everything wrong even with their experience with PGR.

>>1282311
i completely lost interest in every single open world waifu game after mugen was revealed
i guess i am just burnt out by the fantasy setting
urban setting feels more inviting for now

>>1282321
they look fine imo

>>1282335
nah not really
the designs just look as ugly as genshin, a game i genuinely dont like due to the overdesigned characters meme
if the npcs and the playable characters look like 2 separate art direction teams worked on them to the point they dont even seem like they belong in the same game, it's just bad character design

>all chink or gook shit
fuck that shit, how can we make japan great again?

>>1282338
we're talking about the quality of the models themselves
>>1282331
yeah I can see why, Mugrn's trailer was so hype

>>1282347
japan has been making mid games
even nintendo games are lacking in post launch support
i hate what they did to new horizons and how splat 3/totk feel like dlcs
china is simply being very competitive
even the pokemon x genshin game (roco kingdom) looks far more interesting and high effort compared to modern pokeshit games
switch 2 will shake things up if the rumors are true, guess we will have to wait and see

>>1282347
you will never be japanese

>>1282347
by telling them to export their stuff to foreigners.
and tell them to actually give a shit about gameplay already. that requires them to think of mobile games as something more than cash grabs or gambling substitutes.

>>1282347
That's what happens when you condition the higher levels of JP devs that realistic>anime, blame the west.

>>1282579
What the fuck are you on, /pol/ack? All japs ever do is shit out crappy PNG collectors and slot simulators for the mobile market. They make no effort to even try to move away from this model or experiment a little more with their mobile games.

Does project mugen have males?

>>1282628
nvm I probably shouldve watched the trailer./

>>1282621
Take a look at the JP companies making mobile games, most of them are small studios even when they try to make 3d games it always ends in failure most likely due to their inablitiy to market their games since they are again smaller studios, the only one I can think of that might be able to pull it off is Cygames but even then it would be a tall order for them looking at ReLink. The only ones with the capabilities to make open world games are the AAA studios but like I said they don't make games that are "too anime". CN and KR studios weren't grifted to hell like the JP old guard were and this is the result.

>>1282630
there are two, one seems to be the main character but its unconfirmed as of now
guess we will have to wait for them to show more footage at the tgs later this month

>>1282827
Just if it wasn't clear I am talking about the production of open world games as that is the topic of the thread and what I was assuming >>1282347 was referring to.

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>>1282388
> even nintendo games are lacking in post launch support
Mario kart
> china is simply being very competitive
No, only in the mobile market, in the pc space they are as good as dead
> even the pokemon x genshin game (roco kingdom) looks far more interesting and high effort compared to modern pokeshit games
Lol lmao lol lmao

https://youtu.be/j7nd2yaMn-s?si=meGqKQ1BYJHmrQey
>>1282558
> that requires them to think of mobile games as something more than cash grabs or gambling substitutes.
Even the Chinese can’t do that

>>1282839
>one game receiving post launch support is the equivalent of all first party ips receiving the same treatment!
>makes an ass of himself by not realizing the pc market for gachas like genshin are bigger than mobile markets, AND the mobile market for one region alone makes shittons of money
>butthurt
its okay anon, about time you realize japan is falling behind while china is putting out games with bigger scope

>>1282860
Genshin is receding.

>>1282878
True but that's by miHoYo's own decision for some weird reason. They already massacred the game anyway so it isn't like we should care.

>anti-china poster is an esl
had a feeling it was a salty mutt

>>1281293
They already fixed chixia, she's doesn't need anymore redesigns. Although I wouldn't complain if her outfit was made less asymmetrical and stapled together.

>>1282388
>even the pokemon x genshin game (roco kingdom) looks far more interesting and high effort compared to modern pokeshit games
pokechink looks like such a shameless ripoff of pokemon that even gamefreak doesn't deserve the insult from playing it, as awful as they are
they literally had a wooloo in the trailer, i don't even know how that is legal since its blatant stealing of IP at this point

>>1283106
Really? In the image she looks the same and has the same weird torn asymmetrical clothes

>>1283109
you are talking about some completely different game, dumbass mutt
>waaaaaaaaah game has sheep in it that is literal stealing waaaah!
dumb fucking mutt

>>1282860
>>makes an ass of himself by not realizing the pc market for gachas like genshin are bigger than mobile markets
it isn't, really isn't
>AND the mobile market for one region alone makes shittons of money
never said mobile doesn't make money
my point is that the pokemon clone is pretty bad and chinese developers view it more as
> "cash grabs or gambling substitutes"
even the big ones, super unique concepts with high budgets aren't happening yet as it hasn't really matured a lot
Mayne hitori no shita will be one but idc how they are gonna monetise the game

>mutt is STILL seething
i remember when people enjoyed videogames without chimping out about what country made them and without comparing every game to another game of the same genre

>>1283865
brother I don't care about what country it was made from I'm not even the guy you were responding to arguing about the validity of chinese games or whatever.

News soon

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I thought they were gonna show a new trailer or something but it seems it'll be just a booth
https://twitter.com/WW_JP_Official/status/1702623294724383079

>>1287657
what game? wuthering waves?

>>1287662
yeah

I really need them to release WW right now. I don't mind if it's unfinished, keep making big changes after release. I have an itch to scatch. I can't with Genshin's garbage character designs and padded dialogue anymore.

>>1287713
Well they seem to be overhauling a lot of stuff so I doubt we'll see it before early 2024 and that's being optimistic.

>>1287713
>I don't mind if it's unfinished
They'd be extremely dumb if they released it unfinished after the reception ToF got.

>>1287793
tof didnt fall off because of being unfinished
it was legit handled extremely poorly during the launch window
i really loved so many of the features it had, but man, i could not keep playing such a messy game filled with game breaking bugs/glitches that let players steal items from other players (always online multiplayer game btw, so you CANNOT avoid it), or duplicate items (yes, even limited rolls, screw you payfags lol) or end banners early and cause fuckups with how the gacha system is handled
it was going pretty well in the global version until people found out that the developers literally didnt code out any of the serious issues from the chinese version of the game, they literally didnt care

>mugen
looks interesting; good choice of theme/setting and visual aesthetics; i wonder if the free roam will be as fun as gta; character designs are decent/good enough
>wuthering waves
genshin but dull; no idea how to feel about the combat gameplay; while it is good to see parry mechanics, you just know you are going to spam that parry button a thousand times if you are f2p and cant clear the enemy quickly; character designs are just as bad as genshin; immense chinawanking
>dragon sword
genshin but with a different shading style; character designs are refreshing to see however; mounts look interesting and a fun way to traverse the world
>unending dawn
genshin but dull and monotonous; again, no idea how to feel about the combat gameplay; character design is whatever (that signora mask lol)

personally excited for mugen

ngl, i feel like this open world gacha games genre already feels stagnated

too many developers trying their own take at genshin, which succeeded because of good marketing and quality of polish; too bad the game itself is pretty boring and the character designs dont appeal to me at all

i am quite interested in that pokemon x genshin game though; it is definitely an eye-catcher and also refreshing to see a non-waifu open world game like that, although i wonder if it will be gacha or have a different monetization module

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>>1287891
nta I don't care about ToF but I'd still check an offline version since it still has some elements that catch my attention (Lin). Not that I'd ever expect Tencent to go through the hassle, just getting out the thought.
My ideal scenario would be it getting absorbed into another game in better shape, kinda like it getting recycled inside Wuthering Waves. I'm too lazy to explain how that'd work so I'll leave it to your imagination.

>>1287941
>ngl, i feel like this open world gacha games genre already feels stagnated
Just like any other kind of open world game, we've been having this for over a decade already.

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Stream tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5MHCghZd8

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>>1291027
Honestly I'm getting mixed signals with the redesigns and Kuro keeping Sanhua and Aalto designs the same

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>>1291032
granted I don't care a lot about the male characters

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>>1291033
there's also the leaks confirming that basically all remaining characters look exactly the same

>>1282331
The treatment of future of Blue Protocol killed my hopes for any MMO. If Project Mugen comes out burning, it will kill my hope for open-world gacha as well.

>>1291032
>>1291035
Maybe Wuthering Waves isn't healing after all...

>>1291032
yeeeaaahhh im honestly more excited for project mugen at this point. WW dev has been kindof a shitshow

>>1291033
why is every single chinese company incompetent at making good male designs?

>>1291122
yeah, i feel like they are going for genshin but with a different palette and some modern shit, the character designs are just as bad if not worse
cant even be excited for games like these when they feel similar to games you played before and didnt like
mugen seems the most different for now, along with a certain other game (which i dont think is a gacha)

>>1291152
I just can't tell what the hell he is wearing, his clothes are so random

>>1291161
to be fair, that isnt just an issue with wuthering waves
i should have added to my point that most chinese games have really bad clothing design
you just cant tell wtf was going on in the designer's head

>>1291032
At least they undid the titty nerf.

>>1291035
Source?

>>1291210
https://twitter.com/Wuthering_Leaks/status/1703399151608742289

>>1291032
>>1291033
>>1291035
Man Kurogame cant design a single appealing character huh? Still not sure why anyone plays PGR

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>>1291236
PGR has some amazing designs

tgs soon
what are your hopes and expectations?
what news are we expecting?
what news will blow this thread up?
myself, very excited for mugen
i hope they show off open world gameplay, free roam activities, interactions with npcs and objects

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>>1291259
I'm hoping to be impressed by at least ONE game, if not then I definitely give up.
Project Mugen should appeal to the male demographic and make it clear, I don't want any fujo nor homo pandering whatsoever. I also wanna see more gameplay, hopefully an in-depth look. If it delivers on both fronts then it'll become my most anticipated game.
Wuthering Waves is kinda hard. They redesigned two of the initial characters but those changes don't see to be reflected in the on-going closed beta, so who knows how the game is going to end up. They're already chasing the fujo demographic which unfortunately has a lot of overlap with the twitter freak mob. That already puts it below Project Mugen. The combat looks very interesting but I don't think it can carry a live service game for more than 2 years, so I hope they're adding more sandbox elements like Mugen did.
No idea what else there is to look forward to.

>>1267589
I'm very interested in PM. WW, I don't really feel good about it looking at the world but I hope its fun.

>>1291252
oh look, an evangelion character, now wheres those amazing designs?

>>1291295
She's hot and looks great.

>>1291302
kurogame fans are retarded, cant say Im shocked though

>>1291308
Look at the mirror, you can't even articulate why she "looks bad"

>>1291272
Mugen has very impressive trailer, its enough to get a lot of peoples hopes up. But until I see actual gameplay and systems, Im not quite sold on it
WW is just gonna be shit, the company can do nothing but make bootleg hoyoshit products. Its like someones is shoveling shit in their mouth, then shitting that shit out and serving it to you

>>1291272
>They're already chasing the fujo demographic which unfortunately has a lot of overlap with the twitter freak mob.
And they'll most likely fail because those people already play Genshin and Star Rail; plus WW looks like a drearier Genshin, good luck selling that to females. Kuro needs to learn that this isn't going to be like PGR, which only got the fujos cuz Honkai didn't try at all (and AG not only came too late to make a difference, but also mostly caved in to waifufags anyway)

>>1291033
wtf zeke??

is there a single stream for tgc or just individual videos?

>>1291449
individual videos see >>1291027

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>>1291496
So she got a skirt instead of some ugly ass pants ?

>>1291513
yeah

>>1291252
>look, an ass
If only tits and ass was all it took to make a design good, right?

>>1291272
>I don't want any fujo nor homo pandering whatsoever
As long as there's male characters it will attract fujos, they can have delusions even if two characters are never seen together.

>>1291314
>But until I see actual gameplay
We did see actual gameplay though, just not the UI but for that you can expect the usual 2/3 skills + ultimate since it's on mobile.

>>1291272
>They're already chasing the fujo demographic which unfortunately has a lot of overlap with the twitter freak mob.
aka easy skip
i didnt enjoy genshit, i dont think i will enjoy this either
character designs are the most important part of any gacha, and wuwa characters already look pretty bad

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>>1291496
Looks like they fixed her tits.

WW just lacks that smoothness that Genshin has, idk what it is.

>>1291997
the only smooth thing about genshit is the brains of its players

>>1292003
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFqtLE62_gc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAX-F7EeYy4
>>1291573
Designs that highlight the female body are great, yeah.
>>1291835
They still can't seem to let go of the random pieces of clothing. Why did they have to add that brown segment? The game is rated +16 for fucks sake

less than 12 hours until tgs
lets gooooo
>>1292176
>They still can't seem to let go of the random pieces of clothing.
see here >>1291166

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>>1292204
what about it? just because it's a common chink practice doesn't make it ok

>>1292176
>They still can't seem to let go of the random pieces of clothing
>a mihoyo clone company copies mihoyo design mentality
They won't "let go" of it for a while

>>1292205
anon, that is exactly what i am telling you
the designs suck because it is a chinese company
they seriously dont know how to design clothes to make characters stand out and feel important without over designing them
the playable character designs in these types of games are always gonna look like they belong to a completely different game than the npcs
>>1292216
this
not only is it a chinese company, they are also foolishly copying design trends from hoyo, the company known for the most atrocious character designs in the gacha market

>>1292272
they could just hire gook/japanese artists

>>1292305
That changes absolutely nothing. do you think artists have the final say in this? If the higher up say the characters need to wear more bags and belts and few more layers of cloaks then the artists will have to do as they said.

>>1292326
you can see an example of this with the recent Asanagi ship in Azur Lane, where Asanagi was clearly told to tone things down

>>1292326
yeah, ultimately the lead designer decides what final touch ips the characters need
tiffany (if you know who she is lol) is notorious for ruining several designs

>>1292408
ups*

>>1292326
Bombinata looks the same as her original art

so, looks like wuthering waves is confirmed for 21/9 and hoyo will have their segment on 22/9

>>1292456
netease will be announcing a new title on the first day of tgs, but we dont know if they will also have any presentation for their other games (mugen specifically)

>>1292456
the wuthering waves already happened, did you forget japan is 1 day in the future?

>>1292500
>a video showing locations they copied from genshin
I'm baffled at their audacity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsmpEwyN1M8

Project Mugen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmTgg2Tg7GQ

>>1292613
That looks good though. A lot of people complained about how dull and desaturated the previous betas looked. Now there's some actual juxtaposition between the dead areas and the ones that stuff have flora.

>>1292613
I feel like I haven seen everything in this video in Genshin before, it looks like they just kitbashed Liyue and Inazuma together.

>>1292796
that looks pretty neat
at least there's confirmation it has things and activities to do in overworld

>>1292613
Man that really is just genshin but without the color
>>1292796
Worried about the procedural generation part, even though I get what they mean
>actual indoor areas
>can pick up cats
Genshin is finished

>>1292983
i think procedural was only for creating the world
many game studios do that
that doesnt mean the world will be procedurally generated everytime players boot the game
i love how they casually show off that there are no loading screens between overworld and interiors

>>1292983
retard

>>1291236
The only good design PGR has was Bianca and her variance.

>>1292983
>Genshin is finished
The actual game that may get finished is Wuthering with it being a mediocre Genshin clone, they missed their chance to release it and now they have to compete with a much more promising new comer. Meanwhile Genshin can keep its playerbase, I actually don't want them to spill out to other games.

y'all niggers sure do talk about genshin a whole heck of a lot in here.

>>1293050
>I actually don't want them to spill out to other games
fucking this
genshit is a containment game

>>1293080
yep
it acts as a solid containment for the most mentally ill twitter troons
as long as they keep playing genshit, other gachas are safe

>>1293073
>you sure talk a lot about the market leader in terms of open world gacha in this thread about open world gacha
Big fucking surprise isn't it you dumb fuck? Its almost like people hope those upcoming games improve on the ass formula of genshit

>>1293073
maybe because genshit fans cant stop wanking their game off in every single space meant for discussing videogames

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FeMC now has huge thighs

>>1292810
You did. The first area is Inazuma city, the second is the Chasm, the third is a mix of Liyue and Inazumi architecture, the fourth is Wangshu Inn and the last and most obvious one is the path to Liyue city, with the same elevation change going into a big arch that leads to a bridge that leads to the city that has similar elevation, the two mountains behind are also something you saw in Liyue.

>>1292983
>Worried about the procedural generation part, even though I get what they mean
It was likely just to create the general shape of the buildings and all that, then they customized most of it to give the city life.

>>1293050
>I actually don't want them to spill out to other games.
>>1293080
>>1293087
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, the kind that needs to be contained doesn't really care about genshin because it's genshin, it's because it's popular, they're like locusts that move to the next new thing to devour it's soul, leave only it's rotting corpse and then move on to the next new thing.

>>1293353
>they haven't removed the split hair that makes no sense since they don't have wind gliders like genshin
They really want to be known as a genshin copy.

>>1293499
Yeah looking at the latest posts in this thread it's obvious the retards won't stay away

>>1293501
I think they are trying to double down on the Genshin copy aspect since it would serve as free promotion material for them.

>>1293486
>>1293501
another reason to not be hyped for it
they literally just want to create another genshit
i didnt like genshit, wont like this either
i can excuse the world building, it doesnt matter much to me, but character designs are the most important part of any gacha, and it looks like they are taking notes from genshit's horrid character designs
>>1293499
>>1293505
yep
the dickriders of a certain gacha company are going to infiltrate just like they did with tof, and ruin the fun for everyone else by constant shitposting and demoralizing players from playing it

>>1293518
and you're literally one of them so stfu

>>1293519
lol no
i dont even play any hoyo slop

>>1293522
yet you can't stop yourself from mentioning their games in every post

All I want is a Genshin clone but with
>better character designs
>less content locked behind padded u skippable dialogue and cutscenes
the devs just don't get it. Idk why every gacha game nowadays design characters that wear literally 10+ belts and pointless accessories.

>>1293616
>Genshin clone
Honestly I doubt this will cut it at this point, the game doesn't even have a release date on sight which means they probably know this.
>characters that wear literally 10+ belts and pointless accessories.
Yeah I hate this too. All we can do is keep sending feedback.

>>1293616
Meanwhile I just want a Honkai clone but hornier-sadly that will never happen

>>1293518
Doesn’t matter if it’s actually good. Problem is nobody has made one that you’d say is good. I don’t think gachas really need to be that good, but TOF ain’t it.

another challenger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAZID1_3_UE

>>1293155
>the market leader
lol

>>1294013
looks like shit
we didnt really need another genshit, which is already a mediocre, overrated game

>>1294024
"we" who?

>Flashy gameplay and combos
Why not make the games have RPG elements in them? That would increase player investment time in it?

>>1294025
me and him

>>1293680
>Honker Clone but hornier
Aren't that just Aether Gazer and PGR?

>>1294177
is it me or is AG picking up some steam recently? People seem happy with it?

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>>1294203
it's exactly what they're advertising it as and has some great character designs

I looked up the leaked characters (unknown which are playable or NPCs) for wuthing waves and it got me thinking, it's really going to be this way, huh? They're really going to have to give every character several redesigns before they bumble their way to a halfway decent design.
I don't know what kuro's artists are doing, I really don't.

>>1294312
they are copying all the bad trends from genshit
i dont think it is going to last long after release since genshit already has that market covered

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>>1293680
Wait for Nornium.

>>1294177
>Aether Gazer
Compare it to Azur Lane, which has the same devs(I think) and publisher, and you'll find it quite disappointing
>PGR
You can TELL the art team is comprised of fujos. While Bianca Alter and Ayla show they are capable of making sexy characters, they clearly choose not to 99% of the time
>>1294499
I'm pretty sure that's going for a different kind of combat, like Alice gear aegis or something...and to be frank, I liked Aozora no Xipuria's art direction more.

>>1294690
>same devs
Not exactly, this is Yongshi solo project, Manjuu is the one behind AL art direction, while Yongshi only handles the technical side. They also went with the lower age rating for Aether Gazer and frankly it didn't work out so well for them for the first year. They only rolled out more coomer designs and skins recently.

>>1294358
Can you stop thinking about genshin for one post? Holy shit.

>>1294743
>game blatantly copying all the game design trends from genshit
>simply make an observation
>"please stop talking about this!"
are you mentally challenged anon?

>>1294774
Probably mad someone called a part of genshin shit. They do this all the time in other gacha threads on /vg/.

>>1294774
>>1294805
The game is nowhere near release so calm your fat tits retard

>>1294805
yeah
discussion of games is impossible because these hoyodrone dickriders get easily offended over someone criticizing their slop
>>1294818
anon, you are using the same idiotic defensive arguments as pokemon fans
these trailers are meant to give players an idea of what they can expect the game to be like when it releases
dont get mad when people make simple observations such as "why does this look similar to other game"

>>1294845
These betas have a purpose anon, it isn't like with western games that betas are a glorified early access.

>>1293616
Just give me Genshin, but it’s not made only for 10 years old and women. Also no troonbian homofujo agendas everywhere.

>>1294966
>Also no troonbian homofujo agendas everywhere.
I'm sorry anon but there are already several playable fujobaits

>>1294845
>these trailers are meant to give players an idea of what they can expect the game to be like when it releases
nta but the recent trailers are to show what they've changed. I had already written the game off because of how bland the world looked and the censorship. Now I see them undoing the censorship and adding a little vibrancy to the world while still keeping the corrupted areas looking desolate. Now that leaves the gameplay structure and boring character designs that seemingly need at least 3 revisions before turning decent.

>>1294854
>These betas have a purpose
WW still looks like bleak genshin after the beta and it's characters still don't appeal to me, so if nothing was drastically changed what purpose did the beta serve?

>>1295237
That unironically sounds like a (You) issue

>>1295237
>what purpose did the beta serve?
Apparently people told them the world looked too dull, certain characters looked too bland, and the censorship was unwanted.

>>1295244
You're the one who said it isn't like western betas that are a glorified early access, if they don't make any drastic changes then that's exactly what it is.
>>1295273
And the censorship is the only thing they're changing.

>>1295284
>And the censorship is the only thing they're changing.
Nah they've also updated the visuals since people complained about the world looking dull.

i honestly dont expect wuwa to go big unless they have likeable designs and a really interesting, well-written story that isnt wanking off china
they are clearly marketing this to the genshin audience but i doubt the genshin audience will hold on to this
they will most likely pick it up, shit all over the game and then leave when enough damage is done

>>1295370
CN beta testers were bashing the story, said it was dog shit and the NPCs were unlikable backstabbers. So they literally didn't get a single thing right.

>>1295370
In the scenario that the game doesn't take off I expect them to go full coom with the female designs. What I want the most atm is for them to reverse the blonde loli to her grey bodysuit and to give Encore actual panties instead of those bloomers. They should know by now that lolis make a ton of money in asia.

>>1295510
yeah
i guess they will learn it the hard way when it doesnt go as big as they planned and will have to put out content purely targeted to the main funders of the game

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>>1295525
what a huge downgrade, I really hope chinks are voicing their complaints

>>1295534
Both look like shit though, left has awful proportion and right is just plain ugly.

>>1295534
lol
seriously, why do they do this despite knowing rich japs, koreans and chinese are the main target audience?

>>1295550
bodysuit + midriff looks better, they just had to iterate from that concept

>>1295550
i think the right is just plain awful
left at least had some fan service and only had some weird proportions
right on the other hand is literal genshit levels of bad

>>1295560
Right looks like they tried to copy Arknights Suzuran but decided to make it looks much uglier to hide it.

>>1295389
The cope during CBT2 was that this is normal for kuro and they'll totally turn it around like they did with PGR. It seems like they're on that track, and it's nice they're actually willing to go back to the drawing board several times, but they can't be doing that when they're actually supporting a live game.
>>1295510
>reverse the blonde loli to her grey bodysuit
>>1295534
lol fuck no. I don't care what you think of the redesign, the jumpsuit was fucking garbage. You want to talk about bland character designs, she's literally wearing a fucking gray jumpsuit.

>>1295640
that's not a bland design
the colors on the left can be improved, but the one on the right is just overdesigned mess

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>>1295640
>the jumpsuit was fucking garbage
No it wasn't. The way that you shit on the bodysuit but not on the Genshin-tier redesign speaks volumes about your taste.

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>>1295661
>>1295668
Nah, this is bland as hell in both color and design. Like, what is she supposed to be, an astronaut? The worst part of it is those big rigid short sleeves over long sleeves that hack designers love to do for sci-fi armor in mmos and such. The only thing that looks better is the hair. It's fluffy and makes her look playful.
>well I bet you just like the right because GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN
It's not good either but it's sure as shit better than the faggot ass jumpsuit. It almost looks like they wanted to give her a summer dress but couldn't do something so simple because gacha brain. Specifically, the artists seem to be clinging to their design motif of layered shapes like how you can see on her torso. Shit just looks like she stapled letter envelopes together or something.

>>1295683
Well thanks for proving my point I guess.
>faggot ass jumpsuit
Holy shit the crap I read here sometimes lol

>>1295702
Why do you think it's a good design?

>>1294265
I dunno either it is too late or not enough but I really have no interest in playing AG anymore despite getting all the waifu (Hades, Hera, Tsukuyomi).

>>1295709
For starters it's easier on the eyes. The design itself has better hair, the visor is better, her bodysuit is more symmetrical looking and also sexier. Like previously mentioned designs that highlight the female body are better.
Yeah there's room for improvement but it's a much better base than the redesign.

>>1295718
>it's easier on the eyes
i.e. bland
>her bodysuit is more symmetrical looking
Again, bland.
>sexier
Yeah, those faggot ass sleeves and faggot ass bell bottoms just scream sex appeal.
The only thing the old design had going for it was the chest/tummy window.

None of this fucking matters anyway since they'll just redesign it again.

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>>1295722
>bland
are you really THAT much of a fan for this sort of shit? wtf is wrong with you?
just fuck off to Homoverse games you'll feel right at home there

>>1295683
>what is she supposed to be?
holy shit confirmed genshitter
you need clothes to tell you what occupation a character has? what are you? an 8 year old? lmao
and that doesnt look bland at all, there are details on that piece of clothing, it's only the color scheme that feels washed out

>>1295728
it is a genshitter anon
they are the only people in the gacha market used to eating the mid ass designs they are served
other hoyoshit games are taking notes from genshit too, so now we also have other hoyodrones who will praise these overdesigned, messy character designs and shit on the simple designs that feel "bland" to them

>>1295728
I think this design still needs 3 more pair of belts plus a few more accessories hanging around the waist.

>>1295728
what is this style called? does every design school in china teach this and only this?

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>>1295741
I don't know wtf happened, it wasn't this bad before.

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>>1295728
I am surprised by the brown hair
Usually they go crazy with the hair colors too, but I just remembered they have another character that looks fucking ugly thanks to the hair colors

>>1295745
I mean, it was still tolerable before they introduced the flame chasers then everything took a fucking nose dive.

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>>1295745
it really wasnt this bad
the difference is simply shocking

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this shit is considered the best of character design in the gacha market, according to hoyodrones

>>1295640
>and they'll totally turn it around like they did with PGR
If that were the case they wouldn't fuck up in the first place since they have prior experience.

>>1295768
nothing wrong with experimenting

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>>1295817
btw Bailian looks so much better it's not even funny. God I hope they also redesign the rest of the girls.

>>1295829
>parted hair
>buttflaps
oh they really are taking notes

>>1295833
that's not official art if you didn't notice

>>1295741
Tetsuya Nomura style.
>Extra useless belt? Check
>Tons of random accessories? Check
>Unven sleves? miss matching shoes or socks? Check
>Horid hair style that looks straight out of a Host bar from Japan? Check

>>1295851
dont mind some assymetry but everything else in this list irks me
especially the hair
also adding another point: hair colors and eye colors
god i hate when they so badly want the 7 year old retards who play their games to know this character is totally an ice type character with the pale blue/grey/white colors in their designs, or have red/orange colors in their design if it is a fire type character and so on

>>1295860
asymmetry*

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>>1295851
This is one of the latest Tetsuya Nomura characters and she doesn't look this bad. You're talking about Kingdom Hearts right? Damn I wonder how and why chinks adopted the worst aspects of his characters

>>1295728
>>1295737
Why do you keep bringing up genshin?
>I bet you like THIS then!
I told you I don't like the loli's redesign either, you dummy

>>1295745
>>1295748
Making the protagonists Herscherrs(and abyss mode imo) was the biggest mistake the game could have made. Also, White Comet still best design

>>1295903
Way back, I am talking about the FFVIII era when he became the lead Character designer and cumulated to his peak (and worst) at Final Fantasy X

>>1296010
>White Comet still best design
Indeed. We fucking need more bodysuits in these games.

>>1294013
Well looks like this isn't open-world after all. Maps seem to be instanced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klMQhMb6BIc

mugen is the only open world gacha that looks exciting
sadly the rest just feel inspired by *THAT* game, and i didnt like it even a bit
i want to see new ideas in these games and mugen is the only one so far that feels the most different

>>1295718
>her bodysuit is more symmetrical looking and also sexier
her bodysuit has ton of useless shit hanging ogg it and all consists of one color, you call this shit sexier but the design has no curves that could be put on display with that bodysuit and theres a single tiny triangle cutout for the skin that doesnt even reach to her bellybutton. If this is your definition of sexy, you might be a muslim

>>1298382
Any fantasy game will be compared to Genshin, the only reason Mugen isn't is because it's urban themed instead.
>>1297946
This actually looks good and while I get how people may compare it to Genshin, I like the color palette they used for the environment. Not sold on the character designs though.

>>1298410
Still way better than the redesign
>single tiny triangle cutout for the skin that doesnt even reach to her bellybutton. If this is your definition of sexy, you might be a muslim
>loli showing skin isn't sexy
And you are a raging homo

>>1298499
What skin? There's barely anything there you fucking chink

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>>1298504
The one you described in your post you fucking subhuman

>kuroshills being this desperate

go away hoyokeks

>>1298534
>if you think a design is shit you must be a hoyocuck
kuroshitters and hoyocucks need to hang themselves, just think how much good it will do for china's overpopulation issue

>>1298542
go away sperg

>>1298581
>goes on autistic rant trying to defend shit character designs
>calls others spergs

Anyway
Project mugen is the only upcoming gachashit that looks like it has the potential to be a big deal. Wuwa could carve out a niche as being the genshin clone but with good combat, assuming they can keep unfucking their shit.

>>1297946
the character designs are so dogshit

>>1298655
same honestly
genuinely do not care about any other open world gacha game for now since they all feel so similar to the game i didnt even like, while mugen feels refreshing to look at and will be quite fun to explore with those traversal options and side activities
the only other open world game i might be interested in is roco kingdom, but i dont know if it's a gacha; it would be weird to monetize monsters/creatures in a monster collection game

>>1298687
This may be what dooms the game, how do they plan to keep whales with those?

>>1299054
they are obviously taking notes from the g game, thinking what worked for that game will work for theirs as well

>>1297946
I'm so sick of this quickswap combat style.

>>1299083
>they are obviously taking notes from the g game
Yeah no, it's nowhere as bad as genshin, most of the clothes actually make sense instead of being the way they are because of a game mechanic (wind glider), also not overdesigned enough to be genshin's level of bad. To me the problem is just that the characters aren't interesting enough, if I were a whale I can't see myself spending for any of the ones shown.
>>1299472
Welcome to modern mobile gachas.

>>1299472
With time I've realized I like more playing as a single complex character

>>1299541
tof has that feature
just choose to use one character and equip the weapons on that character
the characters in tof act more like skins
too bad that game is hard p2w and a nightmare for f2p

>>1299472
I'm not. But only when tagging in is part of the combat. I didn't play it for long but I liked how honkai had different conditions for each character that would trigger unique tag in attacks.

>>1299578
that is a good idea, but it also heavily restricts team building
i think zzz is doing it better by having something universal act as tag-in, like getting hit
there should be something like that instead of very specific conditions that dont exist in many characters' kits, for example, performing a dogde, or dealing a charged attack on an enemy, or using a skill/ultimate

>>1299579
>it also heavily restricts team building
Unless the dev absolutely fucks it up by having a very skewed meta, it just makes it fun to try and find different comps.

>>1299579
>i think zzz is doing it better by having something universal act as tag-in, like getting hit
its literally even worse because your character spends 0.4 seconds on the field before you get assaulted with screenwide popups to switch for big damage

We need more fan service in these games. I'm getting tired of the family friendly character designs, same with the chink asymmetrical designs.

>>1299996
>chink
There's your reason why we won't get more fan service.

>>1300003
Ironically, Tencent did publish Nikke via Level Infinite, but that was probably because ToF flopped (at least compared to Blue Archive and Genshin) and they really needed a hit

>>1300019
Nah Nikke is coom because dev is gook, also they still censor something like CRupee or OBT Anis/Emma
Only chink game that can count as coomer game is Azur lane

>>1300003
you mean the CCP? are you aware gooks are the ones making Project Mugen?

>>1300167
Are you aware that mugen isn't the only game being discussed here?

>>1300431
What did you mean by this post >>1300003 then??

>>1299996
for me, the major issue in games like these are really bad character designs
i dont care much about censorship, but the character designs should be visually appealing at least
chinese games usually have character designs that look like they were generated using ai, and they are also very over-designed
>>1300167
really? is naked rain a korean studio?

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>>1291053
>Blue Protocol
Don't remind me
>not only confirm there will be a year-long wait
>but confirm that the non-JP regions will be censored for 'muh family friendliness'
>implying anyone would be playing their MMO game on the living room TV for the family to see
And to top all of this off, if you try to VPN and play the uncensored server you'll be sniped out by bored Japs that are happy to abuse the fact they can report people and hand out insta-bans for foreigners.

>>1300504
>i dont care much about censorship, but the character designs should be visually appealing at least
The two usually go hand in hand. Just look at wuthering waves. The designs already weren't very good, but you have yangyang. Her outfit was alright but they ruin it with those dumb bandages that look out of place because they don't want to have a character showing too much cleavage or side boob. Same thing with the female player character. Her outfit is one of the more decent ones and they ruin it with a white under shirt that looks like an afterthought because someone decided they couldn't have visible sideboob.
Fortunately it seems like someone smacked some sense into kuro because that shit is gone as of tgs. Now it's just a matter of how many times are they willing to redesign characters before they stumble on something decent.