Anniversary and Summer Events are coming! Save your rubies and don't fall for the SE's tricks. They'll also start bombarding us with Memory Travelers pretty soon, since the number of characters in the general pool has been greatly reduced.
List of characters (including JP): https://phrygian-tuesday-3c6.notion.site/2dd50eb0e188493fbecee1f55b8691c2?v=b41cb236e9bc4a7686380dd295153e9fAnother one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaE2sVQMbNgz384x4P0CovOwbpVBXSPK3gqWeniCpO0/edit#gid=80885484Database: https://meowdb.com/db/octopath-traveler-cotc/List of resources and materials: http://convento.net/otcotc/materials.php
Current roadmap.
Here’s who’s left n Chance Guidance:Aedelgard - Warrior/FireCecily - Merchant/LightSarisa - Thief/FirePrimrose EX - Apothecary/Thunder Ogen - Apothecary/IceTressa EX - Hunter/FireProme - Cleric/FireYukes - Cleric/FireNinalina - Scholar/DarkElenora - Dancer/IceLemaire - Dancer/AllH’aanit EX - Dancer/Fire
>>1195316Memoir Travelers:Richard - Warrior/Thunder Alaune - Scholar/Fire/LightKrauser - Merchant/WindRondo - Warrior/LightLevina - Scholar/Dagger/Thunder/WindRinyu - Cleric/Bow/Thunder Eltrix - Warrior/Axe/DarkBargello - Thief/WindSonia - Thief/WindElrica - Warrior/Light/DarkAlaune EX - Dancer/IceNephti - Apothecary/Staff/TomeSolon - Scholar/Spear/FireSazantos - Warrior/Fire/LightCygna - Dancer/Fire/Light
the wait for fiore butt is killing me
I've finally started the Bravely Default lv100 NPC grind and the Tikilen grind and both are very comfy. Been following these vids for each of 'em:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-RpjiJOAb8&ab_channel=cotc_grindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RrN5W4hDUo&ab_channel=BruniOne change I would make for the BD NPC clear is to use the Veteran Announcer from the Arena's lobby and the Destitute Gladiator from the center of the old/poor section of Victor's Hollow on the west side instead of the two NPC allies this guy uses. They do the same thing except you can entreat these guys instead of having to fight them every few days to recruit them.
>>1195407Know of any vids for Varkyn? I just cleared Tikilen and Glossom. I’m working on farming Varkyn next.
Do job towers comeback or are they really time limited? Because i'm still in Master of All and no way i can finish them in time.
>>1195467They reset once a month and only 2/8 have been released so far
>>1195467Job Towers are on for three weeks and off for one week. Towers reset on Mondays. This week will be the off week for the Warrior and Hunter Towers.The Scholar and Apothecary Towers will arrive in June.
>>1195455Sorry, haven't looked for a good Varkyn vid to copy yet, but you could try the channel of the guy whose Tikilen vid I posed.
>>1195455These are some good farming strats if you have A2 and cyrus and don't have odette - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdHNuhPF5wlJjwas8kTf4Jzdd69kXFSRS
>>1195257>>1195259BUTTS WHEN!?
>>1195586I jist realized something. I assume JP got these units after the update that gave seperate icons for ult buffs and debuffs, because sophia ex's passive depend on icon count. In that case we won't be getting them this summer. Probanly going to be next summer
>>1195590If that happened, they'd need some massive global exclusive buffs. Which isn't outside the realm of possibility, but still. Would probably be easier to just bring the buff icon update forward to release with her.
>>1195257>>1195385>>1195586How good is she? The summer babes for that matter
>>1195260>Master trainingD-D-Don’t t-t-tell me it is what I think it is!!!! I barely won against the first three.
>>1195616sofia's got a nice gimmick that buffs and adds additional effects to her skills based on the number of her status icons. Fiore has block skills that are basically olberic's defend but negates the damage and have a anti-magic version. So both are very good, but especially fiore butt
>>1195586Tressa butt on my face.
>>1195618It gets worse.>Every third floor you face TWO masters.>The floor periodically updates like the Ultimate Tower. So we might ONLY get three floors at first.>EX Floors restrict you to using 4-Stars (or 3-Stars).>But beating them gets you a SHITLOAD of rubies.
>>1195777you sure? she ate a lot of beans for her lsst meal
Anyone try floor 100 of Ultimate Training yet? I've finally got all the missions done for all the floors below it (not including EX ofc). I'm gonna take it on for the first time this week but it'd be nice to know the weaknesses going in.
>>1195825Did i stutter?
>>1195918I said hot damn..
>>1195777Blessed trips tressa butt enjoyer.
Icirlo's lvl100 npc isn't as diffficult as I expected. She is completely negated by tressa's sidestep + Cardona's holy raiment.
>>1195790>EX Floors restrict you to using 4-Stars (or 3-Stars).Sigh…… I never touched any 3 nor 4 stars characters because I am balls deep with the 5 stars. With this EX faggotary it seems I need to level up 4 stars to the max. Who’s the top priority to feed silver stones and nuts I gathered?>there are unreleased 4 starsFuck off SE, just out with them already>>1195777Blissed trips
>>1195257>floor 100>thought it was one fight with that white cait bitch>WRONG, FOUR FIGHTS >seemingly each with different weaknesses >there’s an EX challenge of fighting them all with 4 stars in one goSeriously!! Fuck this
>>1196166I would start with the 4-Stars and work your way down. Awaken them and uncap all their levels. Grind nuts on Auguste and level them all up. Then do the same with the 3-Stars (which will be easier). The level feats and influence alone are worth it.>>1196171Yeah...I kinda dropped off after finishing Floor 100. I’m gonna wait to until I get better equipment before I tackle the EX floors.
What's the pity for Memory travelers?
>>1196598150 for the rateup character, 200 for others.
>>1196528>got 7000 silver stones>used up the character’s stones, now all 4 stars ranged between level 72 to 78>two already level 80Should i use the global stones to ramp up the rest to level 80? Or is there a future content that requires these items?
>>1196677Just use them. The only other use for them is the guidestone exchange and there's nothing there that you can't get elsewhere more economically
>>1196677The only other use for the si”ver Guidestones would be to upgrade your ultimates. Of course, you also need a ton of wisdom orbs to get that set up too.
>>1196657Do you know if the villains have a similar pity? I'm pretty sure their banners/pool is treated as separate from the non-villain story characters, but I'm not 100% on that.
>>1196834Not sure about pity, but the Villains are definitely separated from the heroes.
>>1195857Gonna answer my own question because I just cleared floor 100 of the Tower of Trials. Weaknesses are as follows:>1st wave: dagger, staff, tome, fire, dark>2nd wave: spear, bow, fan, wind, light>3rd wave: sword, axe, staff, ice, lightning>4th wave: dagger, bow, fan, ice, darkWas far easier than expected, only needed three teams going in blind and that was just because of the 10 turn limit. Trickiest part as usual was not killing her too fast so I could do that awful "last hit final wave with an ultimate" mission this tower loves so much.Now I still have all the EX floors from 50 up to do, but I'm gonna take it real slow with those. Those "use 4 stars or lower" missions sound like such bullshit, especially with global STILL missing 11 four stars. We better get them for anniversary, otherwise I'd say all hope of them releasing is lost. We should have been getting them as early as the first banner we got past launch, which had 4* Durand on JP iirc.
They better give at least 1k free rubies for anniversary these greedy fucks. Free ruby income is already dry as it is.
>>1197156New year's+half anniversary gave us 2k so I expect at least that much. And that's not enough either, even the most efficient pulling strategy I can think of needs like 2250 rubies per a MT character on average
>>1197003AmazingDo you think you can kick her tight ass with 4 stars?
>>1197295Someone rate this. Worth pulling or nah?
>>1197300Read this and decide for yourself - https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/425578She is mainly a physical and ice debuffer. I would have pulled for her if I have some leeway rubywise.
>>1197295That name sounds familiar… did she appear in the OG??
>>1197295>feather cap>isn't a merchant
No idea we’d be getting a leak this soon. Still gonna have to hold off.I kinda like that the Final Chapter of Part 3 is also the Prologue of Part 4.Major changes are coming on June 7th.
>>1197421>Major changes are coming on June 7th.The update? What changes exactly other than the soul weapons and the new chapter?That aside, I hope there's more variety in the next section's music instead of just having multiple variations of sazantos's theme throughout it
>>1197425Neh. Imposible. Hope you enjoy your 7 variations of his theme.
>>1197425Let’s see...First off lemme just say this won’t be all in one update, but these will be featured in Bestower of All as a whole. Soul Weapons - You’ll get stronger weapons than the Battle-Tested weapons. But you can also collect souls and upgrade them further. Problem is the soul’s effect is random. You won’t know what it does until you equip it. You can remove it but then you’ll lose the soul. There’s an item that prevents you from losing the soul, but when you use it again the effect will again be random. Pets - Equipping Pets will raise your base stats. So you can get even STRONGER. They can also use support abilities. Their abilities have a cool down. You can lower the cool down turn by leveling it up. Seed Story - A story that updates alongside Master of All. It revolves around Sacred Beasts who you can capture and summon in battle. Even in the Arena. The Book of Nemesis - You’ll be able to refight old bosses in varying degrees of difficulty. These fights can be INSANE. If you thought facing Herminia at level 90 was bad, Try her out at EX 5. You’ll also be able to summon them as allies (even in the arena) Awakening Exchange Shop - Any extra Awakening Stones you get can be recycled for 1000 Awakening Fragments. Primarily you can use them to get Awakening Stones for other characters. (6 for 1). You can get them for other things such as rare pets. But you’ll probably be using them for Awakening Stones. Board Game - You’ll be able to play a board game and score Fortune Weapons which use Fortune Souls. These can min-max stats directly. There’s also the added Crossover with Triangle Strategy as well as the 3/5 Star Traveler, Serenoa. You’ll need to use a game board to power him up.
>>1197479 4-Star Awakening Stones - At long last you’ll be able to Get your 4-Stars to Awakening 4. You’ll have to gather materials to get the stones. Some require Memory Fragments. Some require Historic Fragments and some require Game Board Tokens. Memoir Travelers, EX Travelers and More! - The next set of Travelers are gonna be at a caliber higher than what we’ve been used to. The Memoir Travelers are insanely strong. The EX Travelers are characters you’ve seen but with a different class and move set. The ones based off the original Octopath protags will be in Chance Guidance. The rest will not. And you can get your ass they’ll all require paid rubies to do Step-Ups. Though we may get some Chance Guidance banners making a return for Free Step-Ups. Pray that our developers are merciful to us. And that’s about all I know so far.
>>1197479Man this game is getting bloated with all of that. The last thing i wanted for this game was to become another gacha that feels like a daily job instead of a simple game.
>>1197487They gotta give you things to do while you wait for the next update. Otherwise people will simply drop the game.And even without all this shit, the game expects you to play every day.
>>1197487Modern Japan can't make JRPGS without you having to micromanage everything alongside RNG and minigames.
It starts...Part 4: Bestower of All.....At long last.
Feels so good getting these rubies after the utter hell that little shit Largo put me through. I'm up to 4300, so I think if I do all my traveler stories (I have 90+ travelers and have only done the ones in Valore), I can hit 6000 in time for anniversary and the villains banner. But what the hell am I supposed to do about limited summer EX characters, OP MT travelers I like such as Richard and the all-important (to me) TS collab?That final chapter was great, I'm so stoked for BoA next month! I'm so glad I managed to not get spoiled on any aspect of it. I really liked the cool thing at the end with the title card.>>1197298Thanks!>Do you think you can kick her tight ass with 4 stars?Oh hell no. I've been getting a lot of my 4 stars to level 80 lately in preparation for the other towers (warrior's the only one I can make a full 5* team for), but I still feel like I'm miles away from a 4* only victory.>>1197300Nah. I remember seeing a pretty good Largo clear vid from JP back when I was going for my last minute Largo clear and I had to discard it immediately because it used Eleonora but other than that, she's permanent so I gotta pass on her. We're about to enter an era where a deluge of limited characters will be coming at us, most of them stronger than the majority of permanent characters and with incredibly limited rubies, the only sane pull strategy I see for f2p is to skip permanent characters to secure pities for the occasional limited gamebreaker and pick up those permanent chars as offbanners along the way.>CV Yumi HaraI sure hope she spooks me one day though.
I wonder how many paid Ruby Step-Ups it’ll take before the game receives some SERIOUS backlash, enough to give us some free Step-Ups with the Memoir Travelers.
>>1195455I can provide some screenshots of my strategy for Varkyn, anon. I’ve gotten him down to about seven turns.
>>1197479fuck, I was about to make a macro to do all my dailies and now you tell me they are going to add a gorillion other things
>>1197536Thanks for the offer. But I just managed to blow Varkyn’s level cap off it’s hinges.Now I need to work on Ri’tu next.
>>1197549See, this is why I define Bestower of Wealth/Power/Fame as Part 3 and Bestower of All as Part 4. The differences are tangible.
>think to myself the little finger ringmaiden is cute and deserves headpats>she turns out to be hyper evil and slaughters her sisters and the co-creator of the universe (and Sazantos is turboevil now for some reason, which doesn’t make sense when he just helped us beat Lyblanc to death in BoF3)>also Sazantos actually remembered that I pinned him down as the traitor back in BoF’s prologue, which I had forgotten about after the whole Phina being the mastermind thing>that end of chapter notification burning away>come back later to do dailies>the title screen is dark nowI can’t believe that the true main villain was a super minor side character. Again.
>>1197576Kinda makes you wonder what they’ve got in store once Part 5 (Side of Solistia) rolls around next month.
>>1197581And they just made her playable in JP recently!Like playable Sazantos, it's her good girl form and not the dark side version.
Rumor has it we’re getting a new Sacred Blaze character and in June. Would you like it to be a Hunter or a Warrior?
>>1197479>>1197486All this shit PLUS the memory banner powercreep and looking at JP's endgame fights makes me wanna drop the game.
>>1197525> the only sane pull strategy I see for f2p is to skip permanent characters to secure pities for the occasional limited gamebreakerA question for all, who are the “game changers” coming up down the line? So far the whale worthy characters were>Cyrse>Alyfn>Lars>A2>Ophillia
>>1197810Not a JP player but from my research>rinyuu>bargello>tatloch>elrics>alaune ex>richard
>>1197810No more permanent characters, that's for sure. Gone are the days of getting someone like Cyrus in every single gacha pool who's still one of the top damage dealers in multiple elements in JP. I'd say pretty much what the other guy said. Elrica being the #1 out of those.
>>1197943Funny thing is, we ARE still getting permanent characters. Ogen is our latest one, but we still have:H’aanit EXLemaireAedelgardSarisaTressa EXPrimrose EXWhile probably not as strong as the Memoir Travelers, each of them can hold their own.
>>1198094By "no more permanent character", I was referring to no more permanent ones that are top tier meta. It's all about the MTs from here on out.
Help me bros, how do I make my phone play the audio for this game? For some reason it doesn't play unless its connected to a pair of earbuds..
tressaaaaaatressaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>1198121Yep, all hope is for the EX versions of the playable characters from OT1 and the remaining side characters like Graham, Kit and Cordelia. In the future, playable\side characters from OT2 should also appear. It's even a little curious whether SE will make Hikari a Light warrior.Apart from these, I can't think of anyone who would fit in the general pool. Perhaps even the few remaining side characters will be stuffed into various Limited™ banners.
>>1198136playable graham but he's partially redeyeactually, how far apart are 1 and cotc exactly
I hope jp gets a slutty summer Viola and Lynette this year.
>>1198161>actually, how far apart are 1 and cotc exactlyCotC is 3 years before OT1 for Master, 2 years for Bestower.
By my calculations, the least number of rubies required per MT character on average is 2123 (without spooking off banner MTs). I can't be bothered to explain the calculations, but the strat I am using for this is >stop pulling if you get the char under 76 pulls>if you get the char after 76 but under 150 pulls, pull until 200 to get another character>if you don't get the character in 150 pulls, pity them and stop
>>1198132Sitting on my face.
Yan Long hits really hard. How are you supposed to not die to this guy?
>>1198569Gonna try to find the post of my clear in the archive...ah, I think it's this:https://arch.b4k.co/vmg/thread/1162219/#q1173212And that post replies to the post where someone gave me my winning strategy/team, which washttps://arch.b4k.co/vmg/thread/1162219/#q1172432
>>1198569Ophilia’s healing boosts defense.
>>1197479>Awakening Exchange Shopwait does this mean we can exchange the tower awakening stones every month?
>>1198617Unfortunately no. Even the greediest gacha would allow you to slowly farm character's upgrades (Elvis and the champions could give about 1.5 Awakening Stones in month), but this "QoL" can only offer a dishonest six-to-one exchange.
>>1198617Yeah, no. That would make things simpler wouldn’t it?But I do hear you can exchange their stones for Arena Fragments. I’ll need to verify this next week.On another note, anything I need to prepare for for the Scholar and Apothecary Towers?
>>1198704>But I do hear you can exchange their stones for Arena Fragments. I’ll need to verify this next week.This would be great, as it would eliminate the need to rematch Largo and Yan Long to get their accessories.
>>1198617No HOWEVER you can used thier extra stones for arena exchange. One stone = 8 single champion fights worth of shards
>>1195257Me after catching up with the main story:https://youtu.be/JtajCVgHEgUThat came out of nowhere. Did he die when he charged my team up in the BoF boss?
>>1199055Keep reading, skipbro
>>1199057Read what? There’s nothing leftDo you mean the memoirs? What left are the ones asking to kill the legendaries in the bonefire 2 who raped my team raw.
I wish that Rondo got to be one of the Light Guardians or whatever the Totally Not Warriors of Light™ are called. He was the only main story NPC missing from The Final Chapter/Prologue and he would've had the best reaction to what happened with Sazantos.Really looking forward to seeing him in BoA.
>>1199137Believe me.You won't.
>>1199139Damn...
>>1197848> rinyuuShe’s a strong unit? Really? She really didn’t give me that impression because the first half she was blind and the second half she was all “Who are you owo? I don’t understand owo”.>>1195257Finished Bestowed of Fame…. Whatever happened to that little shit? Miza or whatever her name was. Last i saw was her walking in the snow then stepped on a flower because grrr I’m angry. or is there more to come?
>>1199284>rinyuuhttps://phrygian-tuesday-3c6.notion.site/Rinyuu-94482574b6ba428f9ce260d49944723aShe is the best cleric currently in JP
>>1197581> also Sazantos actually remembered that I pinned him down as the traitor back in BoF’s prologue, which I had forgotten about after the whole Phina being the mastermind thingWait a minute! Really?I just chose that mumbling preist because I didn’t like his attitude, which obviously was the wrong choice.Are there special dialogues is you pinned the specific dickheads characters?
>>1199429Hard to say. I honestly don’t know. I can tell you that it doesn’t matter either way. A number of those candidates are in on it on one form or another.
>>1195257Live A Live when?Don't care if trash, i love that game.
>>1199284Since you've finished Bestower of Fame, you should know that Rinyuu is quite special.>spoilerYeah, I was wondering the exact same thing! I don't think we ever found out what happened to her, she's the main loose end for Bestower of Fame. The last time she appears and is mentioned is in the memoir that unlocks after you clear Ch1 of BoF, which you mentioned in your post. I can only assume she's going to come back in Bestower of All.>>1199566We need to get Triangle Strategy first, then Live A Live will be the next collab after that. I'd expect TS to be in a few months, probably just after summer has passed and we've entered fall. So maybe Live A Live in January? Seems like there's at least three months between collabs if not more.And don't worry Live A Live bro, they're not trash at all. Odio-O is the second best sword damage dealer after the almighty Elrica, which is REALLY saying something when warriors are far and away the most busted job on JP. Odio-S is the best fire damage dealer and both of the Odios I just mentioned are in the top 3 for dark damage (once again, Elrica takes the #1 slot).
>>1199566Later. Much later. The Triangle Strategy crossover will arrive roughly sometime this n August to introduce the Game Board mechanic.Live a Live is gonna be more of a late Bestower of All arrival. You get Oersted and Streibough, and you get their dark counterparts, Odio-O and Odio-S respectively.Love the crossover, but this is the first one to disappoint me.
>>1199607> Since you've finished Bestower of Fame, you should know that Rinyuu is quite special.I mean.. yeah. I saw her moves in the link here >>1199356 and she’s busted.The only thing I find special about her was Graham really fucked up. Like i get you oughta be horny when you travel throughout 100 regions.. but jesus christ man you have a son. And then he had the ball to see his wife in Finis Gate afterwards? Like come on!
>8281 rubiespleasegive me the butt
>>1199778Whaaaat? Have you been collecting since day one? Were you aware of butt from the JP and planned to get her ass from the start? That’s an impressive dedication you got there
Warrior Tower is open. Don’t forget your Tikilen Awakening Stone.
>>1200036The Hunter Tower is open too.Yunnie’s Awakening Stone awaits.
>>1200037>pulled Chole>EX4 challenge>she helped immensely… but that faggot nuked everyone at red healthSuggest me a strategy.. the team is picrel. This all my 5 stars hunters.I’m 100% certain fucked something upWhich 4stars should I maximize?
Started this game last weekend and i'm absolutely loving the gameplay and story. From what i've read this gacha is a bitch when it comes to rates so most people just go for pity. But i'm not that desperate so i'll take it easy.My biggest complains so far are the retarded ruby prices and fucking paid banners.A paid banner with four 5* characters is just ridiculous.
>>1200187treat it more like a game and less like a gacha and you'll be infinitely happier, it really is among the greediest pieces of shit out thereyou should be set for a long while and you can earn some 4* base characters from a later gameplay unlock, so keep questing and let those rubies pile up in the meantime
>>1200187Your team is solid, i see it can push you until the first chapters of Bestow of shit. By then you should have ~3k rubies. If that’s the case: hold on a little bit for the upcoming Memory Travel banner or EX summer traveler banner aka BUTTs for insane travelers to add to you squad.
Tempted to pick this up Becuase I'm looking for a "pve gacha" and I'm wondering how aggressively it wants my money later on.
>>1200653Either in June or July, they’ll start introducing Memoir Travelers. They’re EXTREMELY powerful. But all the banners (in JP) are paid.We’re both anticipating and dreading their arrival. That’s when the greed will REALLY start to hit.
>>1200653You need a team of 8 specific characters to win some fights. It'll take either 8 months of daily chores to pity one of the 8 you need or hundreds of dollars to buy one of them. If you haven't started already no reason to start now.
>>1200856>You need a team of 8 specific characters to win some fightsWhich fights anon?
>>1200653The gacha part is dogshit but you can comfortably clear all the content without spending a dime.
>>1200858I think he meant the arena champions.Eight free 5 star characters will join IF you managed to defeat them. They are tough and each has a fucked up gimmick.The upcoming new characters - memory travelers - can help you greatly.
>>1200883How is "You need a team of 8 specific characters to win some fights" anywhere near the same thing as "Eight free 5 star characters will join IF you managed to defeat them" except having the number 8 in common, lol
Free rubies from tikilen cup!
After a dozen attempts I managed to get Tiki 9 turns. Thought I might've needed to spend the week leveling up Varkyn to get more damage.
New Sacred Blaze character.Ditraina, the witch from the upcoming Seed Story.She’s a Light/Dark Scholar with a special gimmick. Use a light spell, get infused with light. Use a dark spell get infused with dark. And yes you can be infused with both. Getting infused with light/dark changes the effect of Ditraina’s spells (such as increased magic or double cast).By the way, JP’s Sacred Blazes are BRUTAL. You only get like...TWO FUCKING DAYS to pull these banners.
>>1201028P.S.: if she’s infused with both light and dark, you break the Damage Cap by 30,000.
>>1200978>>1201017Holy shit this is brilliant. I was already planning on farming Tikilen some more today and I have a stable 7/8 turn clear of her ready to go (see this post >>1195407 for the video I like to follow for it).I see their twitter account has no less four identical tweets that all show the cup race and say to reply to "this post". Does it matter which one I reply to?
Holy shit. I SUPER lucked out today. I wasn’t planning on pulling Eleanor, but I felt that tug and went for her.This is my first...and ONLY step for her!
>>1201135Damn, congrats. I've sworn off doing those first discounted steps after getting nothing from the past three or four, so I have to stay away from her, sadly.
Submitted my Tikilen race and decided to roll on Eleanora's step up.Snowballed into doing the full step up but managed to strike the jackpot and roll Eleonora, W'ludai, Nicola and a Heathcote dupe.
>>1201250Nice. Shieeet, if Tikilen's giving us 300 more rubies, maybe I should do the first step for Eleonora...butt no! Those rubies could be used on the summer girls! I like Fiore and Sophia very much.
>>1201250Lucky! Still missing W’ludai. Gonna have to wait until a better banner comes up to try for her.
