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Dead game
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First for Hook!
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>>1161003
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>>1161003
>>1161008
I don't like my lolis looking like a potato, I want proper 11 years old looking lolis
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no shota no play
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>>1162284
They're basically using the same design philosophy from Genshin but even worse this time.
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>>1161001
Why isn't it open world, what a waste of sci-fi aesthetic, you can't even jump
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>it's genshit but less tedious (?)
what are people looking forward to
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It's like Genshin but better
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This might sound petty but I don't want to play this game because it's too chinese. Genshin at least isnt all Liyue.
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>>1163402
HSR also isn't all Xianzhou. Jarilo-VI for example.
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i am only gonna play this until zzz releases
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>>1163612
Why even bother then? They're not even the same genre.
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>>1163402
Liyue is kinda funny as in, yeah it's very chinese, but it also feels very German in a weird way. Contracts, and extremely precise laws for every single shit, gigantic amounts of paper work to get anything approved. German bureaucracy is its own gigantic beast that can't be tamed easily.
Like if you wanna build somewhere something that benefits everyone (i.e. wind turbines), you can bet your ass that takes YEARS to get approved. Or denied for random reasons like "it's too close to this random house". And let's not talk about the insanity that is taxes.

I'd assume Mondstadt was supposed to be referencing the general western Europe (Germany, Sweden and whatnot), given names, the name Mondstadt in itself and all that, but I saw a lot more Germany in Liyue than in Mondstadt. It's actually really interesting, because this might, in a way, reflect the Chinese view on things. There is most definitely a lot of "freedom" here, but damn.. there also isn't.
On the other hand Inazuma feels more like it represents a more feudal Japan, so who knows where all these ideas come from. Definitely interesting to look at though.
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Does Gepard's shield stack?
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>>1163402
The first planet is literally Russia, what are you talking about?
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>>1163677
You did some work on the hands right?
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>>1163615
because i really wanna see the leaked fu hua character
i am assuming the leakers think this character from the second region (since its also influenced by china) is fu hua, but i hope i am wrong
i will see if i am able to do daily chores without burning up quickly
if not, i am definitely dropping because if i were to pick between hsr and zzz, i would definitely pick zzz
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Who are you hoping to pull?
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>>1164746
gepard
or welt
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>>1164746
probably nobody
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Updated tierlist for launch
>BEST rerolls:
Bronya: Buffs your party and advances someone's turn. Easily the best character in standard and top 3 best characters in the game right now. Downside is that she is standard and imagine rerolling for a standard character that has very high chances of spooking your rolls in the future.

Seele: Best damage dealer currently in the game. Not standard and is first limited banner. Jing Yuan gives her a run for her money in the damage department but Seele is Quantum which is much more valuable. Really good reroll target to aim for due to her status as limited since it'll save you summons in the long run.

Jing Yuan: Runs after the Seele banner so you can't reroll for him but he excels at AOE damage. Everything about him is dealing more damage so he's really good to pick up but since his banner is after Seele, you should have time to decide if you want him or not.

>Great characters:
Bailu: This cute and funny is currently the best healer in the game. She increases max HP, provides damage reductions to your characters and has the strongest heals by far right now.
Her burst skill "Invigorates" targets which makes them heal up to 2 times (3 after leveling her up) when hit as a reactionary heal.
Abyss and hard modes in the game are 2 team things and you WILL need a way to keep your 2nd team alive and Bailu is the easiest way to do so.

(Continued in next post)
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>Good characters:
Welt: Welt stocks have plummeted from his status as SS as players discuss game mechanics and theorycraft more. He'll either be extremely good or extremely bad depending on what fight you bring him to. He has the potential to trivialize certain encounters but some enemies are immune to his gimmick or his gimmick is pointless on those fights so he'll be really shitty for those fights meaning he'll be the best in slot for some fights and worthless for others which makes his value fluctuate and be uncertain.
Worth noting he's the only usable IMG character for a good while though so he still has value there.

Gepard: Gepard goes from dogshit to maybe he's okay. Some people claim he's a lot better than people believe since he can keep a team alive with his shields while some people swear he's garbage. You most likely won't be happy to see him in your rolls but if you do get him and don't mind males then maybe he'll be usable instead of the equivalent of getting Qiqi'd.

Clara: Polarizing character with highly divided opinions. Some will tell you she's dogshit and some will tell you she trivializes the game so it's really hard to tell what her true potential will be.
Things to note is that she's the slowest character from the 5* pool and her entire kit revolves around counters and being hit. Her taunt on burst has an around 80% chance of making enemies hit her for two turns and has the largest damage potential in the game by a mile if and only if the enemies hit her every turn.
She could turn out to be amazing but she could turn out to be dogshit, only time will tell because she sits as one of the biggest unknowns right now.

Yanqing: Much worse than people thought him to be. He's a fragile glass canon that requires heavy investment and to not get hit. If you get hit then you're fucked so people have opted for using other damage dealers instead of him. Probably not something you'll be happy to see in your rolls.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Himeko.

She's unfortunately pretty shitty. She's outclassed by 5* and 4*'s so she doesn't show up to any meta discussions but if the game turns out to be easy or if she's your wife then you can use her but yeah, tough luck.
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Notable 4*'s to keep in mind are Tingyun (Lightning), Sushang (Physical) and Natasha (Healer).

I haven't really researched the other 4*'sin depths but I can guarantee you those 3 are pretty good and you can't go wrong with them.

Also I didn't copy this from any reddit post or guide, I wrote all this from what I've been researching and reading over these past few weeks.
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>>1164793
>Gepard: Gepard goes from dogshit to maybe he's okay. Some people claim he's a lot better than people believe since he can keep a team alive with his shields while some people swear he's garbage. You most likely won't be happy to see him in your rolls but if you do get him and don't mind males then maybe he'll be usable instead of the equivalent of getting Qiqi'd.
I can't wait for people getting Bennett'd (or maybe Zhongli'd would be a better comparison) in a month or so. I will definitely be happy if I get him, even better if I get his light cone too.
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>>1164816
Gepard isn't THAT good. He's good because of shields but you need to use his skill which consumes skill points and is a really shitty skill so he's only on the map because his burst gives shields for 3 turns and that's it.

You're still better served using Natasha+Bailu to keep yourself alive or using other defensive characters such as March 7th (4*) and Traveler (Starter) so Gepard isn't really something you'd want to go out of your way to get and use but he's also not as awfully bad as everyone thought.
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>>1164819
Just to be clear I wasn't saying he's as broken as Bennett, just that I think the people saying he's garbage will be proven wrong with time. Some people seem to see he's a tank/shielder and not even bother checking anything else about him to the point I saw a retard saying he'd be good with Clara despite the fact they conflict with each other. Also I don't think you NEED to use his skill, but I'll see when I play the game.
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>>1164825
You want to generate energy for Gepard for his burst which means using his skill which kinda sucks.
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>>1162929
Auto artifact farming, I'd be playing genshin daily if it had that.
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>>1164831
You can generate energy with basic attacks too and getting hit. Yes, using a skill gives more energy but depending on how many times he gets hit in the 3 turns his shield lasts for it might not be needed all the time.
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>>1164791
>BEST rerolls
>Jing Yuan
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>>1164892
>Runs after the Seele banner so you can't reroll for him
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>>1164816
Gepard just isn't that good. He might see some use at the start since there aren't too many alternatives but his kit is a meme. He will become even more irrelevant once Fu Xuan releases. Not the worst standard character by any means, but a lot of people have been hyping him up too much lately in response to everyone calling him bad.
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>>1164836
But you are still artifact farming. Its the same dogshit system. But now instead of each artifact run taking about 100 seconds 4 times par day, you have to waste a few minutes for each run, even on auto. It would be fine if there was a sweep option but hell will freeze over before cuckhoyo adds QoL features
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>>1164900
>waste a few minutes for each run,
What are you talking about? You set it at max so you can do all your runs together, set it in auto, and leave the game to play itself. There are no multiple runs or few minutes wasted in each.
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>>1164916
Oh so it has autorepeat as well? Didn't know that
Fuck this really is just a copy of epic7 then
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>>1164920
>this really is just a copy of epic7 then
Minus the cuckshit, with better turn based combat, visuals, polish, and not on life support.
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>>1164922
>muh waifus
lmao, the game has male characters, only a matter of time before "cuckshit" invades it as well
>with better turn based combat
its the exact same thing
>visuals
about the only thing I can agree with, too bad its mihoyo so the visuals are wasted on generic autobattler
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>>1164923
zoomers eternally seething about turn based games
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>>1164925
Theres a difference between turn based games and mobile autobattlers. But my bad for expecting a ping pong to know the difference
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>>1164923
>only a matter of time before "cuckshit" invades it as well
Nah chinks are purityfags don't have an NTR fetish like gooks. And even disregarding that, Mihoyo actually knows better than doing any pairing shit that doesn't involve the main character (and even then they don't really do it). So no, it's not a matter of time because most gacha developers aren't that retarded and out of tune.
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>>1164926
Turn mobile games must be better since they can chain mentally ill schizos like you to the thread!

Thanks for supporting the game and letting it live rent free inside your head like a good little cuck. I hope it stays there forever!
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>>1164927
>Mihoyo actually knows better than doing any pairing shit that doesn't involve the main character
you forgot Jean already?
>>1164928
>loses argument
>starts spamming buzzwords
Was it the ping pong part that angered you?
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>>1164929
>forgot Jean
What happened with Jean? Please don't tell me some schizo headcanon shit.
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>>1164929
It's not a buzzword though, it's a truth. You hate the game and mihoyo but you can't unchain yourself from it so you'll forever be the little cuck dancing on dawei's palm.
Maybe a stronger person could free themselves from it and move on but definitely not you.
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>>1164931
>It's not a buzzword though, it's a truth
whatever makes you feel better, now take deep breaths before you pop a vein
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>>1164930
Genshin is all ages and has stayed that way so it's definitely schizo headcanon shit.

This same cuck has shat up the last 3 threads or so and /vmg/ threads stay up for several weeks so you know he's one of the bigger schizos around.
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>>1164933
>everyone who dislikes the game is he same person
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>>1164936
you're in /vmg/, not /vg/
The amount of people willing to schizo out for weeks and seethe about the game is EXTREMELY low. You can't hide in the crowd or blend in with other shitposters because there are no shitposters, they're literally all at /vg/.
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>>1164937
Either you guys are running out of meds or have the mental fortitude of middle schooler. I saw the thread in the catalog, said what I wanted, and thats it. If this is such a common occurence, perhaps there is something wrong with the game
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>>1164942
Sure thing dude, I believe you. Can't wait to hear your excuse when you're still here doing the same days later.
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>>1164943
Seek psychiatrist help before you start seeing shitposters in your room
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>>1164746
Clara
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>gepard needs dupes to get slow and team wide res buff
>other than that all he does is apply a shitty shield and provoke chance
lol miss me with that shit, id rather wait for a cute girl tank that doesn't need dupes to do things like push your team or buff it while protecting it
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>>1164956
Gepard is a meme, although for some reason he has been getting pushed by fags lately. All he has is his shield, his kit is shit.
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Just save for whoever will give a character an instant turn + attack buff and the revive team bruiser lah
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i love gepard
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>>1164962
>>1165011
Gepard's taunt is actually quite effective. If you give him the Landau's Choice lightcone, he has roughly the same taunt chance as Clara during her ult. With that, plus his innately high defense, plus his autorez, plus his team-shield on his ult, he will likely be able to easily replace a healer like Natasha/Bailu.
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>>1164895
>He will become even more irrelevant once Fu Xuan releases.
We don't even know what her kit is yet, she may do something completely different than him and we don't know when she releases. That said, it's not my intention to hype him as a must have.
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>>1165017
Also, because all of his defensive utility is tied to his ult, he doesn't consume skill points like Natasha/Bailu do, so he can farm you more skill points than using a healer.
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>>1164900
>but hell will freeze over before cuckhoyo adds QoL features
They added a lot of QoL features https://youtu.be/LoAG6to3qaI
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>>1164956
The only good eidolon Gepard has is his first one, the others are just decent. If you want slow you'd be better off using someone who has that in their kit not in their eidolons, same for res. He's not a buffer or debuffer keep that in mind.
>>1165017
>If you give him the Landau's Choice lightcone, he has roughly the same taunt chance as Clara during her ult.
No he doesn't. Let's imagine a team with a Hunt character that has 75 base taunt, a Harmony/Nihility/Abundance character that has 100 base taunt, Clara that has125 base taunt and Gepard that has 150 base taunt. After doing the calculations these are the chances each of them has of getting hit during Clara's ult:
Hunt 3,79%
Ha/Ni/Ab 5,06%
Clara 37,97%
Gepard 53,16%
Gepard has about 15% more chance of getting hit than Clara. The only way for Clara to have a higher chance is during the first 2 turns if you start the battle with her technique:
Hunt 2,75%
Ha/Ni/Ab 3,66%
Clara 55,04%
Gepard 38,53%
Needless to say any turn Clara doesn't have her ult up there's no competition:
Hunt 5,55%
Ha/Ni/Ab 7,40%
Clara 9,25%
Gepard 77,77%
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>>1165030
Ah, you're right, I forgot about them having different base taunt stats. Thanks.
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>>1165037
No prob. I agree with what you said, people are underestimating him or rather shields too much in a turn based game where you can't avoid damage.
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>>1165021
Why can't they add those things to Genshin? There's no reason for the party loading screen to exist, holy shit.
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>>1165133
Engine differences
Genshin was made one way and Star Rail was made another. It's the same reason why Honkai looks and plays like a game from ten years ago.

It's way easier to add things to a game when it's new or in the development stage but it's much, much harder to rock the boat or change things after it's out.
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>>1164900
I'd rather have auto than faster manual farming
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>>1165141
>Engine differences
In the part they show the party setup having no loading screen they say they use the same engine which is why they hope this is retroactively added to Genshin.
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>>1165259
Maybe in the future, depending on how hard it is to implement. But I think the loading before party screen is to avoid players from hotswapping members during combat and breaking the game using funny strats.
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>>1165264
I haven't played Genshin in a while but I'm pretty sure you can't open the party setup while in combat.
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>>1165265
Sometimes the game bugs out and it can disengage you out of combat so that loading screen must have been there to prevent such scenarios.
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>>1165017
i didnt read
i just wanted to say i love gepard
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Which banners do you guys think will come after 1.0?
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>>1165551
The obvious answer would be the characters that have been tested in the beta, like Kafka, Blade, Silver Wolf, and Luocha, but the inverse may be the case and we end up with an Ayaka situation.
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>>1165551
>>1165558
At the very least I don't think Kafka and Silver Wolf will come in the same patch since they're both Nihility. Maybe they'll have one female and one male banner each patch, so probably Silver Wolf and Luocha followed by Kafka and Blade. Why Luocha first? Because it'd add another Imaginary and Abundance character, both desperately needed.
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>>1165562
If they follow the same logic they've been using for Genshin where the banner character is someone currently involved in the story, we're likely to get Kafka, Blade, and Luocha before Silver Wolf, considering the latter isn't really currently involved in the story, at least judging by what was in the beta.
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Who is the cutest underage character in Star Rail?
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>>1161001
DOA
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>>1165577
>Dead Lumine
EOS soon?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye4qk1SW9TE
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>>1165824
Long live Himeko
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>Male
>AI-generated character
>"Action RPG"
Another safe skip desu
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>>1166372
>Team China
Aren't they the ones who posted multiple discredited leaks of genshit
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>>1166372
god that design looks so ugly
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>>1164925
>>1164926
>>1164928
why does tihs matter
https://old.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/12fzmgb/mihoyo_apply_for_the_trademark_rproject_and_the/
look
LOOK
REVEL
at how MiHoGOD will deliver us to a golden age
they give us amazing experiences and deliver us from jap chibi low effort autobattler TRASH
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AHHHHHH I LOVE CUNNY
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Only a trillion more days until release, bros
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Is this going to be like other Mihoyo games where they are stingy as fuck and make the reroll process a living hell?
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>>1166530
According to leaks they're gonna announce a new game at the end of the year. Not sure what it could be considering Project X, Project SH and KF were all cancelled.
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>>1169632
R-Project, Hot Blooded. It's used for a genre for japanese manga.
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>>1164746

Himeko, and this time she better stay alive!
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>>1164791
Jing Yuan will be worthless because Serval is 2nd strongest cleaver that everyone will get for free and she has broken eidolons making her better investment for f2p/low spenders
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Jing Yuan is so dreamy...
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For me, it's Blade.
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>>1171110
Plus if you're going to pull for a male you're better off going for Luocha who has being Imaginary and a healer going for him.
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>>1169624
nyes
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>>1169624
Why do you think it will be different?
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Six days until this game comes out and I struggle to find any sort of civil discussion about it
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>>1172648
you'll be safe among shills at least
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>>1172674
And you'll be shitting your pants and eating the nutella that comes out with every other edgy kid on this site over at /vg/
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>>1172676
>Exhibit A on why hoyoverse fans don't deserve "civil discussion"
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is this game open world like genshin?
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>>1172648
Stay here, I promise I'm not mentally ill
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>>1172740
no
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Are you ready kids?
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>>1163677
Ten seconds at best but it would happen at least every 30 minutes.
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>>1164791
Wonder how long it'll take for people to say Bailu is shit because she just heals, much like how it happened to Qiqi after a while in Genshin.

Keep in mind Abyss is a DPS check just like Genshin, with a limited number turns to get your 3 stars.
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>>1172740
It's a generic JRPG, big cities/hubs with small subareas/dungeons where you fight.
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>>1175112
>Wonder how long it'll take for people to say Bailu is shit because she just heals
already happening in /vg/ but I suspect the trannies over there just want to find reasons to hate her because she's a loli instead of some big tiddy char
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Will this have weapon gacha?
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>>1175121
Yeah they're called light cones
It's infinitely better than the garbage in honkai and more like Genshin's
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>>1175123
How much will this fuck me up when rerolling for characters?
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>>1175126
It wont because the weapon gacha is separate?
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>>1175121
It's like Genshin, but only one weapon in the banner. So it behaves like the character banners.

>>1175126
Whether or not it'll be worse will depend on how necessary the cones are to make a character good, if it's like Honkai Impact it's going to be shit.
Focus on characters as expanding our team comps to handle more situations is the most important in gacha.
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>>1175127
>the weapon gacha is separate
Thanks, that's what I wanted to know
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>>1175129
>if it's like Honkai Impact it's going to be shit.
Yeah I've been hoping it's honkai only in name because Honkai 3rd was so fucking bad
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>>1175134
Genshin in recent times has been making C2 the impactful constellation.
I always thought this was to make you choose between getting C2 or the signature weapon, as the costs for both sides are the same (at most 3 5* pities).

That's why I'm getting a feeling that it'll be like Honkai 3rd since the cone banner is now like the character one
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Being a husbandofag is suffering but I already knew that when I decided to play this game.
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>>1175408
Huohuo and Hanabi look cute, maybe Topaz and Lynx too. The rest are meh.
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>>1175408
It's full of dudes and little girls
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>>1175599
>Filled with little girls
But there's only 6?
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The game isn’t even out yet and ppl are already arguing abt the meta. Pulling bc you’re a simp > pulling bc you’re a meta slave
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>>1175408
Dont forget Jing Yuan!

I’m also def going for Ren and gonna hope Kafka eventually becomes a permanently playable character
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>>1175408
Raiden is also The Hunt? Going to be rough getting AoE damage without rolling for males.

Guess Serval and Qingque will have to hold me for a good while.
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>>1175599
>It's full of dudes
There's 4 and one of them looks like a woman.
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>>1175727
But there's MALES and they will TALK to my girls
It's over it's fucking over shitty fujoshit game i'm going to play something else where the girls wont cuck me
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>>1175730
>fujoshit game
There's girls TALKING to my guys so not a fujo game.
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Any reroll targets or can I pick with my dick?
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>>1175794
Always reroll with your dick as that's what motivates one to play gacha.

That said, Seele is preferable as she'll be the limited time character on banner. Jing Yuan will replace her 3 weeks later.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/112sheg/in_the_sixth_eidolon_of_all_characters_an_image/
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>>1175794
Bronya and Bailu, but Bailu is just a healer so she'll fall off fast.
>>1175821
>That said, Seele is preferable
Only if you're crazy, yoy'll barely get any limited tickets to reroll for her. We'll likely get enough currency to hit pity at least once in her banner so just hope you win the 50/50.
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>>1176078
The entirety of the launch roster is going to fall off hardcore but what are you going to do? Not play for a year and start in the middle of the 3rd region?
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>>1176079
The problem is that Luocha will likely come soon and he's much better than Bailu scaling off atk and being Imaginary type, so she's not a high priority reroll target.
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>>1176130
>Much better than Bailu
Not really
>Scaling off ATK
Why the fuck would I ever want to build my healer with attack? Why would I want my healer to deal damage?

I swear you people literally only seethe about Bailu because she's a loli
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>>1176133
I don't like Luocha's design because long-haired male = trash and I like Bailu she's cute, I'm just talking about their gameplay.
>Why the fuck would I ever want to build my healer with attack? Why would I want my healer to deal damage?
It's not about wanting him to deal damage, it's just that his damage won't be as garbage when you do. What healers scale off of doesn't really matter though. Besides, he's a limited unit so of course he'll be better than a standard unit, that's how they sell them.
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>>1176139
>I'm just talking about their gameplay.
No, you're being retarded about their gameplay, it's completely different.

There are three healers currently in the game. Three. And one of them isn't going to be here until 1.1.
Plus, why do I need to roll for gay pretty boy when my healing needs are covered by Bailu + Natasha? You're rolling for healers so your team stays alive and you have a way to keep both of your teams alive in Abyss and having bailu in one side with natasha in the other side will help a lot with that then I can use the currency to save up for another character or roll another character instead of being forced to get him because I don't have a 2nd healer.

>But she'll be powercreeped!!!!
So what? Again, literally everyone in launch will be powercreeped.
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>>1176141
>why do I need to roll for gay pretty boy
I never said you need to, that anon asked what are the reroll targets and I answered him while mentioning that one of them will fall off so it may not be a good idea to reroll for her, it's up to him though.
>instead of being forced to get him because I don't have a 2nd healer.
That implies you'll need a second healer, it also implies you won't be spooked by Bailu without rerolling for her. Also, this argument of being forced to get him would make more sense if it was because he's Imaginary not a healer since he'll be the only one other than Welt for who knows how long.
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>>1176154
>that anon asked what are the reroll targets and I answered him while mentioning that one of them will fall off so it may not be a good idea to reroll for her
Yeah, and I answered calling you a giant retard because literally everyone in the launch pool will be powercreeped eventually.
>Ackshully you don't know if you need healers
>You don't even know if she'll spook you later
>You should waste precious gacha currency on him instead of the girl because he's imaginary and healers are known for dealing amazing amounts of damage!

If you have no idea how the game works then simply don't bother giving "advice".
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So what do i wanna take from the web event thing other than "make the world clamor"? I don't even know what that is or what it does, but it's clearly set as the big prize.
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Am I wrong in thinking this is Genshin-lite?
I was hoping for more of an Epic7 successor
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>>1176141
>and you have a way to keep both of your teams alive in Abyss and having bailu in one side with natasha in the other side
Wait abyss is here is 2 teams again? Is there a single original tought in this game or is this seriously just genshin with new assets?
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>>1176369
>I was hoping for more of an Epic7 successor
I think that was out of the question when they shat out the genshin gacha and put a new coat of paint in it
>90 roll coinflip vs 120 guarantee
>0.6%(correct me, I legitimately dont remember the exact number) vs 1%
>entirely separate banner/pity for artifact vs artifact on the same banner, with its own drop rate+can be bought in shop for easily obtainable currency
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bets on this game's anni being better or worse than genshin's?
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>>1176459
gonna be worse.

no co op.

turn based will get old real fast

gacha chances is worse according to the comment above you
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>>1176133
Star Rail's endgame is the same as Genshin's. The Spiral Abyss / Forbidden Hall has a mechanic where you have to beat the battles in the least number of turns possible.

So late game having pure healers will (like Genshin) likely be a detriment to your team as you need to pass those DPS checks.
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>>1176369
It doesn't have PvP so it'll never be an Epic7 successor. You're probably looking for Outerplane.

>>1176375
Yes it's two teams past a certain floor like Genshin. No there's nothing new.
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>>1164795
>Oh yeah, I forgot about Himeko.
>She's unfortunately pretty shitty. She's outclassed by 5* and 4*'s so she doesn't show up to any meta discussions but if the game turns out to be easy or if she's your wife then you can use her but yeah, tough luck.

you could've stopped at Himeko
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>>1176164
>because literally everyone in the launch pool will be powercreeped eventually.
True, but not everyone in the launch pool is a reroll target, only Bronya and Bailu which is why I didn't mention the rest.
>You should waste precious gacha currency on him
Again, I didn't tell anyone to pull for him, I didn't even mention him in my initial post, I merely mentioned him as one of the reasons Bailu will fall off.
>and healers are known for dealing amazing amounts of damage!
Healers are known for healing which he does, him also having decent damage is a nice extra that Bailu doesn't have, but again I'm not telling anyone to pull for him, this is simply a comment on how he works.
>If you have no idea how the game works then simply don't bother giving "advice".
Good thing I didn't give anyone advice, I only answered questions, if I were to give advice I'd tell that anon to go for Bronya, Bailu wouldn't even have been mentioned. Now, are you done getting uppity just because I mentioned Bailu will fall off?
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>>1176297
>I don't even know what that is or what it does
If you can't be bothered to look that up then I dunno why you care about what you get from it.
>>1176369
>I was hoping for more of an Epic7 successor
Why would you want any game to copy that garbage?
>>1176375
>Is there a single original tought
It's a turn-based game so not original, it has gacha so not original, it has anime characters so not original, it comes from China so not original, etc. Originality is a meme, you won't find anything that's 100% original nowadays.
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>>1176626
>you won't find anything that's 100% original nowadays.
Oh Im well aware, but I'd at least expect 10% to not be copy pasted from another game
>Why would you want any game to copy that garbage?
They use the same combat system, the same equipment system, and lightcones are artifacts under a different name, they already copied it
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>>1176628
>They use the same combat system
E7 didn't invent turn-based combat, even if you only consider gachas.
>the same equipment system, and lightcones are artifacts under a different name
Light cones are the weapon equivalent from Genshin and the equipment aka relics are artifacts from Genshin.
That said, even if they had copied those things from E7 at least they didn't copy the bad things which is most of it.
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>>1176652
>E7 didn't invent turn-based combat
Yes I'm well aware, but E7 is arguably the biggest/most popular example of this specific system with basic attack+2 skills
>Light cones are the weapon equivalent from Genshin
And yet they are class-specific glorified postcards with additional effects...like artifacts
>are artifacts from Genshin.
The artifact system in genshin already had all of the bad hallmarks of E7 equipment system, down to having nearly the exact same stats, but because the rest of the game was nothing like E7, this could have been dismissed.
On the topic of stats, iirc, Star Rail added their own equivalent of Effect Resistance stat so hey, thats another thing taken from E7
>at least they didn't copy the bad things which is most of it.
Because the other thigngs are copied form genshin. And they could have at least added the good things from E7, like having massive stamina pools so you can just set 30 runs on autorepeat, but nah, we have resin again instead. Or the ability to reroll stats on equipment
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>>1176663
>E7 is arguably the biggest/most popular
NTA but E7 is an evolution off of Summoner's War model of skills with cooldowns and such. A lot of gameplay models including utilizing RNG gear for a gameplay loop originated a lot from even before mobile games in form of Maplestory Dark Scrolls and Dungeon Fighters Online gear enhancement systems.
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>>1176666
>NTA but E7 is an evolution off of Summoner's War model of skills with cooldowns and such
Oh thanks, I knew I recognized an older game like that but I forgot which one it was
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>rerolling in a game with 40+ mins of unskippable dialogue and 0.3% rates
No one is actually doing this...right?
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>>1176671
>40+ mins of unskippable dialogue and 0.3% rates
which retarded company actually does this
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>>1176743
shithoyo
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So /vmg/, are you rerolling or just starting with whatever you get?
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>>1176834
I've made one account and I will be sticking with that one account. That said, I'm getting Seele no matter what. I'll buy whatever's equivalent to Welkin, and I'm rushing through the game's content for the first three weeks. If I don't have Seele by the last day, I'm doing a little bit of whaling.
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>>1176843
but why dude? why plan on whaling?
im not being ironic or anything, i am genuinely curious.
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>>1175408
Is that a robo guy with a monocle? Neat
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>>1176671
>40+ mins
Only if you're slow and yes, I'll do it because playing with whatever the game gives me even if I don't like the characters isn't fun.
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>>1176888
>playing with whatever the game gives me
why are you playing gacha?
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I have never rerolled in a gacha. Half the fun is building a team out of what you are given. Like trading cards.
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>>1176890
Exactly, that's why I'll be rerolling.
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3 more hours... just 3 more...
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>>1176964
Isn't it two more?
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>>1176964
I'm not gonna be able to handle staying up to 3am fuck
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Game's up
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https://discord.gg/uKAR2Zcuet
https://discord.gg/uKAR2Zcuet
https://discord.gg/uKAR2Zcuet
https://discord.gg/uKAR2Zcuet

star rail cord
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so why is the chick named march 7th named that
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>>1177003

The site said it should be up in like 6 hours. Is that a preorder thing?
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How do I link my android/google account to PC? I try with email and says email already exists
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>>1177117
I have this same issue. Just ended up restarting using a miyoverse account seperate from the Google login
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>>1177056
because she awake naked on march 7th
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Recommended server? Im from europe but thinking of using american server
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It's a literal 1:1 genshin asset flip. Reminds me of ubishit.
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>>1161001
>10 fucking GB
Jesus.
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>>1161001
dead game unironically
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>2023
>AAA game without INVERT CAMERA OPTIONS
Big N moment
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>>1176834
no this type are anti reroll id just quit if i got a dude but luckily i got clara and that dog girl
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First impression:
The little lore and notes lying around are definitely better than in genshin.

The battle system is in theory interesting, but it can definitely become cumbersome to swap around chars so much. You more or less should handcraft a party for each battle.

The hard battles are fun and require you actually performing. Nicely showing that this battle system has potential, provided you can't just vastly overpowering everything eventually.


As someone who played a whole bunch of rpgs, I gotta say this makes a good first impression. Less impressed by some RNG skills, but we'll see how much that will matter.
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>>1177264
ALWAYS choose NA unless you want to play with subhuman ziggers
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Trying to play this on a galaxy fold 4 and the resolution is terrible. Anyone know if there's a solution/any plan to fix this or will the game just look like shit on large mobile devices?
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>>1177264
Im in the eu and picked the america server, thats where my friend plays and since its turnbased anyway its not like you need perfect ping.
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Got the loli I wanted as my guranteed 50th pull 5 star from that beginner banner. Lucky since I had no intention of rerolling this game, too much effort. And I got Sushang in the process, I hear shes pretty good?

My first impressions are pretty decent but we'll have to see if it can keep my attention once Im out of this main early stuff and run out of content.
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>>1177937
>As someone who played a whole bunch of rpgs, I gotta say this makes a good first impression
I dont believe you. Because I too played a bunch of them for most of my life and this combat is actual garbage. I have been making it a point to autobattle everything besides the story battles where they disable it for some reason. Theres nothing difficult, the system has no potential, its literally just "bring the super effective character into the fight", like every turn based gacha
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>>1163612
What's zzz
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>>1164746
Men. Big sexy men
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>>1164746
I got welt. I wanted bronya but desu idk who's good
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>>1164922
Epic 7 never added X2 speed did they? That's why I quit
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Why is March so sexo?? No one else just me?
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Fuck why did i pick the male trailblazer over the female
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I'm guessing the stupid anti cheat is still in the PC version?
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>>1178172
Bricked account
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>>1178172
Fewer male characters, better for balance
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I got the little thunder bitch as my first 5 star. Did i fuck up?
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Not-Tsaritsa and not-Fatui are a bunch of no-goodniks, can’t wait to leave this planet
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how do you consistently skip the opening cutscene? i managed to do it twice with a controller but i cant get it anymore
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The hebes in this game man I swear to god
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Herta or Serval for my team?
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>>1178022
I'm sure you also rushed through the entire opening part skipping all content you possibly could, right?

You skipped the metal slimes that drop gacha currency if you kill them before they run away.
You skipped the much higher level encounters guarding big chests.
You skipped collecting the key cards to get the two wave encounter guarding a 4 star weapon including chest.
You skipped playing the game.

There's plenty of resource management going in a fight, provided the fight is difficult. All of them were optional in the beginner area though. And I know people just rush past everything to get to dailies or whatever. Completely missing the charm of the game in the process of doing so.


>>1178380
>my team
Both. This isn't genshin, you need a much wider array of chars. A char not hitting a weakness will never perform very well.
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>>1178537
are they missable? I think we can go back there at some point right?


also the game is painfully below average coming from a multi bllioninare studio.
It seems like the management tries their best to get the lowest effort for the highest profit possible without giving two shits about creativity. Extremely disappointed about the overhyped studio
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>>1178537
>if you don't like it, it means you didnt play the game
What a fucking surprise, hoyodrone uses the genshin excuse again. Another retarded child that can't take criticism without having a mental breakdown
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>>1178537
>Both. This isn't genshin, you need a much wider array of chars. A char not hitting a weakness will never perform very well.
Gotcha. Should I be less worried about only using my level up resources on a select few then? That was a big deal with Genshin I remember
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>>1177937
>You more or less should handcraft a party for each battle
in a game that still has genshit 0.6% rates?
that's bad news...
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>>1179009
someone fucking gets it
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How's this team? Idk much about team building yet but these are my favorite units so far.

March and Clara seem to work well together though
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Wish they either committed to giving the player character a speaking role, or didn't. It's jaring any time he speaks because it's only like, once every hour of gameplay
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Pela, is she a must for fighting bosses? Bosses are abitch unless I can remove their buffs and lower their Def.
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>>1179026
Replace welt with Natasha and that's my team
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Wish this game was more reroll friendly. I don't see myself sticking with it without a team I like, but I also don't think I'll be willing to reroll more than a couple of times, and I'm definitely not going to buy an account. Hope everyone else has fun though!
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>>1179825
That eminence in shadow game was much more friendly to rerolls than this game they're kinda the same setup with specific teams for weaknesses.
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shipfags ruined honkai
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>>1178919
>Should I be less worried about only using my level up resources on a select few then? That was a big deal with Genshin I remember
Bumping this question
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>>1164074
No. I have him.
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>>1178170

March or Herta, which is better? They both counter attack but March at least buffs.
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>>1180027
Low levels use up so little resources compared to max, should be fine to get a bunch of extras to 20+.
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>>1179938
I don't go on twitter so that doesn't apply to me.
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>>1164922
>cuckshit
I never touch Epic 7 what happened?
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Who would be good teammates for Bronya + Bailu? Im guessing just 2 DPS?
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>>1161001
just started playing and got 2 yanqing fuuuuuuuuck meeeeee
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>>1181066
I got that fag as my starter 5* (benched) and got Welt after losing the Seele banner coinflip (also benched), my account seed's cursed.
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>>1180835
>seele (or any other dps)
>bronya
>sexfox
>bailu
sexfox will most likely be replaced by silver wolf in 1.1, especially in seele teams
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What's the best team I can build out of this?
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>>1181238
>spoonfeed me a team in a game and better yet a gacha game
>play a game you say? nonsense
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I pulled on the cone banner by mistake then deleted the game LMAOPAOAOAOAOAOJSJENDJJRJDJ
FUCK MY LIFE, just as I started to enjoy the game
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>>1181238
The game is easy. Just continue leveling your waifus as you've been doing and you should be good. If you want an optimal team go March, Asta, Welt and Dan Heng.
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You know what time it is
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Did daily check ins reset for the month? I don't think I missed any, but I'm back to day 1.
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>>1181496
Yes, it's May 1 in Shanghai (UTC+8)
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>>1181238
swap march for natasha when you get her
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>>1179938
Ship fags ruin everything. Also get off Twitter zoomie it rots your mind
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boggles my mind that people like this shit. Must be the zoomers who can't handle more then two buttons at a time.
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>>1181541
look at what board you're in
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I'm doing my best to like this game, but the dialogue is just meme and shitty gag infected stuff most of the time. There's no skip button for the side missions and the combat system is slow and dull.
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>>1176663
Light cones are basically the craft essences from fgo
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My first 5* is Bailu. I won!
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>>1181541
What, you don't like having the privilege of playing the newest prestigious Hoyoverse title?
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brehs i cant choose, its not easy like in genshin where the male option looks like a massive flaming faggot
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>>1181899
If you want little girls calling you onii chan pick male
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>>1181899
You sure about that?
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>>1163651
>. Contracts, and extremely precise laws for every single shit, gigantic amounts of paper work to get anything approved.
That pretty much describes China too. Or at least the Imperial Chinese period.
They had a completely obfuscating and maddeningly vast bureaucracy that was so prevelavent that even their afterlife beliefs involved lots of paperwork and red tape.
The Chinese are really one of the first true bureaucracies so it makes sense they'd represent themselves that way in an old fashioned setting.
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Can my pc run this too if I play honkai 3rd on it just fine?
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>>1181899
I picked the girl in the end :3
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>reroll takes 35 mins at best thanks to the cutscenes
I give up.
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How am I looking? Not really sure how to utilize Welt and Dan Heng but it's what was recommended to me
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500+ rerolls, 13 Seele accounts, every single 5 star... yet still no Clara. How is it possible to be so unlucky?
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>>1182395
Can I have the Seele or Bronya accounts?
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>>1182395
>Seele accounts
I have to agree with the anon above me and ask you to share some of them for the betterment of this thread.
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>>1182395
I’ve been rerolling for almost a day now, I’d like to at least own a seele account if you’re fine giving one for me.
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i might wait for zzz
I just cant into turn based gameplay
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>>1182389

Give Dan a cone and a set that will increase his crit. He becomes a monster as you unlock more for him.
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>>1181238
Whatever you do keep March in the lineup until you get other support types.
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>>1182395
>wasting this much time
How I miss the good old neet days
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>>1182397
>>1182554
>>1182577
If you trade me a Clara account
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Will this game have a big guy? No genshins seem to have big guys, it's all twinks
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Difference between companion and adventure missions?
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>finally take the gachapill on a cute jrpg
>find out people are spending hours rerolling for minmaxxed characters to make the game slightly easier
>meanwhile my team of MC + march + himeko (worse than serval) + asta cleared the whole game with minimal roadbumps
are all gachas this stupid when it comes to the minor benefit you get from being a squealing paypig? i heard in genshin the buffs you get from dupes actual changes how you play the character. in this it all just seems like minmax shit. i even swapped out natascha when i saw how retardedly good march's shield was.
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How long does it take to secure a spark? Genshin takes at least 6 months
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>>1183355
Funniest thing is that 90% of the characters out are gonna be shit tier in a year.
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>>1183355
even in star rail. infact 99% of games dubes are really over powered and changes play style a lot.

also main story is not the reason people max out their characters, its usually the side gameplays like simulated universe and other stuff which are way harder to clear %100 especially at early game
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still no clara or bailu...
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>>1182395
I was going to try this game and maybe reroll few times, and if I get something good I might keep playing it but
>30 mins to reroll
>no guest account no salt mail
>low ass rate
it was just as bad as in genshin to reroll
did you bot or hired illegal third worlders to do it for you or something?
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>Want to reroll for Clara+Bailu
>Stick to a Clara account and run it
>Get every single meta unit except Bailu

FUCK META
GIVE ME CUNNY
NOW IM STUCK ON THIS ACCOUNT FOREVER
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>>1183455
>99%
Nah. Star Rails's dupes are very obviously much lower impact.

>>1183399
Debatable. Obviously, a lot of early game is coping, as you simply have a limited amount of chars, so you'll use a lot of less than ideal chars. But in these kind of games team building is important, even more so than it is in Genshin. The more options you have, the better.
Also while meta is nice and all, a lot of people simply want to play with chars they like. And not some random shota or whatever else is in the standard banner.
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>>1183556
You can salt though, I multiboxed the mobile version. It was extremely tedious and not worth it, I should've bought a Clara account for like 2 dollars instead but my main account is too stacked for me to want to swap... I guess it's time to whale
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>>1183579
there are probably some service in third world who would just reroll for you
or simply sell you god tier reroll account
maybe check those first
just like how venezulian fags manage to fed his family for months selling genshin reroll account back then
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>>1183584
Yea prolly best option if you care about rerolling the chars you want. I don't really care since I have God mode when I play so meh.
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>>1183030
Svarog is a pretty big guy
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>>1183584
>or simply sell you god tier reroll account
There are no god tier reroll accounts, all of the retards selling the reroll accounts are pulling on the beginner banner. The only way to get god tier reroll is to reroll on the standard banner for the 5* you want and leave the departure banner alone
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I don't wanna kill the scared pigs but they drop stellar jades ;_;
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>download this game
>play through it for 2 hours
>comfy af
>get my 50 rolls in on the starter banner for the guaranteed 5 star
>It's Welt
Noooooo my Bailu dragon cunny ToT
Welt is still cool in a way, he reminds me of Will from Maplestory.
Pom-Pom is definitely the best character though even if you can't use him on a team
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Thith ith our chanth
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Just started this. I'm on the spess station and the music is groovy.
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the more I play the more I realize Im being a slave to the game rather than someone who enjoys it. mobile games are truly the scummiest genre of gaming and I wish whale suckers waje the fuck up and make the studios making these games go bankrupt
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>create a mix of Scathach and Makima
>she becomes one of the sexiest women in all of mobage
Whoever designed her deserves a promotion
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>>1184675
Her and the bare feet are like the 2 good designs in the game, maybe the smelly fujo with glasses too. The rest of the characters have like 17 colors in their design, no stand out silhouette or anything noteworthy, no wonder no one is doing fanart.
They really should take a note from design philosophy of stuff like overwatch 1, or even genshin, with simpler design with strong personalities, like Hu Tao or something.
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I have wildfire stuck in my head now. I can't stop singing it in my head.
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>>1184925
WAKE UP
IT'S TIME TO GATHER NOW

that song is a fucking banger. I haven't even gotten to the boss battle yet but I can't wait.
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>>1184650
Tell the other companies to make good non gacha jrpgs then.

I'd love if the normal 60 bucks releases would have the quality of Star Rail. They just don't. Star Rail isn't even THAT great, but like what is the competition?

-Bravely Default 2: Piss easy, untested hard mode where you get swarmed by encounters and it's just annoying, because the entire design is based around that enemies don't do that because you are overleveled. Hard mode only cuts exp in half, but you end up still needing to overlevel if you actually want to explore.

-Soul Hackers 2: It released in such a shit state you had to wait MONTHS before it worked okay. By that point I lost interest. But even aside of that, the first hours I played were very unimpressive with area design and combat as well. The space station in Star Rail was better. Devs need to learn that it's not fun to start with a fucking healing spell, standard attack and basic single target elemental attack. What is this, Dragon Quest?

-DQ 11: Too linear/boring areas, too long for its own good, with terrible pacing. Takes forever to get a full party, and even then. And I'm not against the series. I like 4-6 for example. But what works in a 20 hour game can't just be copied to 80+ without getting boring.

-Monster Hunter Stories 2: Coinflip simulator with AI friends that will piss you off, and bad game design galore everywhere.


It's not the greatest Jrpg I've ever played, but what can you do when companies either call turn based dead, or have no idea to make it interesting, resulting into pure RNG, piss easy or just so linear in progression that you have no influence on anything.
And yes, I know it's from China. That makes it even more sad, that they apparently still know the ps2 formula that made JRpgs big.
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>>1184936
>DQ 11: Too linear/boring areas, too long for its own good, with terrible pacing. Takes forever to get a full party, and even then. And I'm not against the series. I like 4-6 for example. But what works in a 20 hour game can't just be copied to 80+ without getting boring.
I find it hard to think you can enjoy Star Rail but you couldn't enjoy DQ11. I feel like it was a great entry in the series. It had tons of content postgame, one of the best cast in JRPGs ever and the story also was pretty nice.
>Monster Hunter Stories 2: Coinflip simulator with AI friends that will piss you off, and bad game design galore everywhere.
Still extremely fun, really loved it, even though the combat gets boring after a short while.

However, in terms of quality, both games are on the level of Star Rail or even below that, so your initial point is still correct.
Mihoyo games have an insane level of polish, and I think that's also why people like them.
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>>1184946
Yeah they have a lot of effort into it so you don't feel as bad dropping $500 in pulls until you realize the rates are dogshit. Western games don't even make an effort to hide their greed.
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>>1184740
>or even genshin, with simpler design with strong personalities, like Hu Tao or something.
thats a joke right?
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>>1184946
>Mihoyo games have an insane level of polish
mihoyo games are quite literally a polished turd. but hey, it looks nice so thats all that matters to people with single digit-iq
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>>1184675
Her ult is so fucking cool
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>>1184936
you have such a bad taste I got offended. Take a (You) for effort
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The epic of trash cans
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>>1185216
and I forget image
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>>1184963
No, no at all. Look at M7 and explain her design to me in 10 words or less. I'll do the same with Hu Tao. Modern take on Taoist clothing, with flaming butterfly motif.
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>>1185264
>explain her design to me in 10 words or less
casual, bright, genki girl
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>>1184740
Hu Tao is an outlier. Genshin also loves extreme ornamentation and asymmetry. Copying the worst JRPG trends is the Mihoyo way
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>>1184965
Bro, you haven't played many games on day 1, trust me.
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>>1185516
>it's functional bro, that means it's good!
Who cares
You're still playing a shit game with shit characters and shit story
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>>1185519
>new IP
Nobody asked you retard
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>>1185516
What, you mean the general sorry state of modern game releases? Im well aware of that, but that doesn't change that mihoyo games, even if "polished", pretty and functional, are shallow and shit. You just repeat the same daily tasks for 6 weeks while your neurons react to "omg so pretty" animations or whatever
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>>1185521
That's not what "polish" is. Polish is bugs, server exploding, some parts of the game feeling unfinished, parts of the game that show no effort put into it.
The only thing unfinished in this game is the story, for obvious reasons
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>>1185523
Im starting to think you took the term "polished turd" too literally
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>>1185526
Never mind, I didn't read your OG post properly lol
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>>1185527
oh well, have this bronya
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The game is better than I originally thought. It's definitely more F2P-friendly than Genshin, as I was able to beat World 5 with a team ranging from level 40 to 50 (Using the free units) and with Light Cones at levels 30 to 40. Might spend a little money on this game but no more than 60$. Another thing is the side story is actually fun and interesting especially Hook's story quest, however, the main quest is not that interesting.
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>>1185555
>however, the main quest is not that interesting.

I feel you anon. I'm reading the story since I'm a big fan of HI3 one since Final Lesson happened, but this is going too slow (HI3 was slow as fuck at the start too, though). I hope it gets better in the future or at least the side quests AND events have the same fun replies and things since they at least make me a bit happy.
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hmmm my comment was deleted?
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Is Himeko that bad? Having her and Herta is like instant auto-play
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>>1185916
>Herta
Literally the worst character in the game both personality wise and playable wise lmao just use March 7th
>Himeko
She's a budget tier 5 star lmao her dps is mediocore compared to literally any other 5 star aoe. Even the Trailblazer Fire Mode does deal more damage and they're a fucking free unit you don't have to roll for.
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>>1184675
MOMMY AF

IM DUMPING ALL MY GEMS FOR HER
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>>1182389
dan heng is like a budget seele.
afaik you slow with welt then skill/buff with dan heng
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>>1185705
>Frotting against Herta's doll parts!
>Installing a self warming fleshlight into Herta's crotch
>Brushing and groom Herta's hair
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>>1185920
herta literally on bar with bronya as one of the best buffers for seele if your seele has her light con. it would be even more insane if your seele is E2
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>>1182389
Welt + Dan Heng = Infinite turns.
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Will your team be ready when they arrive?
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>>1162943
it literally has no gameplay whatsoever, it's borderline a walking simulator
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>Get to one of those progression stage bosses before the final boss of the world
>lose fight bringing boss down to 5%
>"Fuck is it time to focus on 4 star relic farming?"
>do some farming
>terrible results
>desperation ascension for 10 pull for a fire character
>nada here's light cones for you lol
>"god if only I could access the next level of Traces for a power boost... WAIT WHAT THEY WERE UNLOCKED ALREADY AND THE GAME DIDN'T TELL ME"
I feel so stupid but at the same time why the fuck does the game not tell you about traces when you die to a boss, my team is all level 40 and it says I didn't meet the level 38 minimum, so unhelpful

Should have said "New Character Traces are now available" as soon as the red calyxes were unlocked
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>>1186101
one day one day... I maybe need to spend 50 bux to help me get started
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Hey, this shit is infecting all my friend groups. This is maybe naive hope considering it's Mihoyo/ Chinese, but is there any fan service? Or is it just overdesigned/ very frilly outfits to be beautiful/ classy? Middling breast sizes, buncha dudes in the same pools as the women, weird localization, etc?
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>>1186317
>just overdesigned/ very frilly outfits to be beautiful/ classy? Middling breast sizes, buncha dudes in the same pools as the women
Mostly yes.
>weird localization
CNfags say it's natively memey.
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God fuck that deer
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>>1186708
the deer wasnt so bad. or maybe i was overleveled
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>>1186741
I can get to the second phase without too much trouble and then the second phase just overwhelms me. I probably need an alternative dps to dan
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>>1186793
Cute and Breedable Male
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>>1186060
why does seeles e2 matter for herta?
How does the turn mechanic even work?
If herta debuffs and it says one turn but seele is 2x speed of herta does 2x seele count as one turn?
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>>1186354
Thanks, anon. I'll pass again ;_;
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>>1186164
Traces are literally the last thing you need to care about.

Upgrade importance:
-Ascensions (this includes the light cone)
-Levels (this includes the light cone)
-relic upgrades to +3/+6/+9 for char mattering stats
-Traces: Heal and shield traces have priority.

Just like in genshin, your char + weapon (here light cone) is your base stats. Unlike genshin that means, HP, ATK and DEF of the cone are all part of your base stats, and it's not just for offense. Aka this is very important for everyone.
Relics or trace bonus stats won't do much if your base stats are shit. Don't get baited by linear stats on relics either, like in Genshin those are NOT base stats. % is where it's at. Upgrade them in +3s. That generally adds or increases the power of a substat.

Your base stats are your everything. They determine how powerful buffs are that apply to you (i.e. atk increase in battle), your relic strength and so on. Chances are, if you ever struggle it's because of elements or your base stats. Provided you don't have absolute dogshit relic stats for your chars. Set doesn't even matter outside of for a few chars. So far they are pretty shitty.
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>>1186857
char lvl >>> traces> gear / cone lvl

Why?
char vs monster lvl is biggest modifer
traces are reliable ~10% buffs at low cost
cone lvl is a pure stat boost which is mainly helpful for hp to survive
gear has biggest dps potential but also biggest rng. You cant afford to farm enough gear to reliable get upgrades so gear will be an endgame thing to grind out.
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>>1186759
Turns out switching Dan for Nat made a huge difference. That girl is way strong.
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>>1186857
Thanks, not the guy you’re replying too but stuck waiting for dailies to hit 40, so farming mats in meantime.
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>>1186827
nvm I confused her with asta
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should i be using regular warp tickets to hit the choose a character or hoarding them
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>>1187357
I don't know if "every 10 warps guarantees a 4-star" refers to making a 10 roll or just rolling 10 times, but regular warp tickets only apply to the regular warp so there is no harm in blowing all of them as soon as you get them. You might get lucky and pull Bailu's cone
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>>1187370
It's just pity. If you pull 9 times in a row and get no 4 star, you'll get at least a four star in pull 10. It always starts counting after getting a 4 star.

Same for 5 star, which resets upon obtaining any 5star, though there is soft pity here as well. Officially that doesn't exist though, so you just get your guarantee at pull nr. 90 after your last 5 star, while all others are the regular chance. It's hard to get that far though.
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Hitting the end of the story is kinda disappointing. Dailies taking ~10 minutes is nice but also kind of boring. At least I have some time to build extra characters instead of flexing my main four for absolutely everything. I wonder what their event / update schedule will look like.
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>>1187444
Is this for all three banners? Counted separately or together?
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>>1187520
Char, Weapon, Standard are separate. Beginner is also separate, which is why it makes little sense to pull on it if you got a 5 star.

But within a type of banner it never disappears. So what you did on Seele's banner is still valid when it changes to the next char. Should there be two different char banners at once (in the future), it also counts for both.
In other words, this game isn't like many other games where you only pull with pity. Though keep in mind that a lucky early 5 star obviously resets the pity count, should you pull on a banner you don't really want, but would like the 4 stars of.
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>virtually zero fan art
It's overq
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>>1187525
Sweet. I was worried I was wasting my pitty by pulling on a wrong banner
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wao
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Now that the honeymoon period has passed. What's the honest review for SR? Mid or banger?
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>>1187979
Not enough feet
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>>1187979
I was having lots of fun while there was content.
Logging in to sweep some shit so I can lvl my cones and traces is a lot less fun.
Hoping I won't burn out before they decide to do anything with the game other than "posting a comment here gives you a chance to win 66% of 1 roll"
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>>1187979
I'm just about done with the frozen planet, and since it's my first mihoyo game idk how often they do events or something, I play it like a jrpg with gacha elements and it's fun so far.
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>>1187996
>I was having lots of fun while there was content.
same, probably gonna only play when a major update patch drops
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>>1187979
I've only just finished ice planet, was pretty good. Going to keep doing dailies until and story until I can build my characters then fuck off and come back when they release a full planet again.
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>>1187982
Not enough tits;_;
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>>1187996
If genshin is any indication, well... You get like 20 minutes daily for a week every six weeks, and every 3 months a new area that'll keep you busy for 2-3 hours.
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>>1188333
How on earth did GI make that much money then? That sounds awful.
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>>1188554
Managed to rope a lot of casualfags into playing and spending money with their marketing and what not, now that the initial push is over they only need to drip feed them new content once every few months while trying to drain them dry with new characters every patch.
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>>1188562
Thats a special kind of impressive, I guess. Hopefully Star Rail breaks that trend. It has a lot of potential.
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>>1188575
prepare to be disappointed they are not going to stop doing the thing that makes them shit tons of money
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>>1188554
>90 pulls for a 5 star
>50/50 chance of getting a 5 star on the rate up or not
>if you lose the 50/50 you need to buy another 90 pulls
>undisciplined people who spend hundreds for every single character and to max out their constellations
>doesn't even BEGIN to count their character specific weapons
>COVID period had tons of people at home with excess money they would usually spend out with friends doing social activities now letting them spend on gacha pulls instead and getting addicted
I mean I'm lucky I only like 2 characters between both Star Rail and Genshin that I absolutely NEED: Gorou and Silver Wolf. Other than that I don't chase meta units.
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>>1188597
My experience with Third Impact was that I could use a non-max rarity unit and clear every content in the game with it. Was that the case with GI?
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>>1188554
Normalfag gacha gateway drug, because it was the first gacha that looked and played like an actual videogame (BOTW, specifically) instead of some shitty 2D sprite mobile game like FGO.
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>>1188632
Genshin Impact is entirely PvE so "meta" just means "whatever helps you clear the content the fastest"
So yes, you can, you just might not have as much fun doing it
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>>1188632
You won't have fun clearing spiral abyss for gems, and your weekly boss runs can take 10 more minutes longer, but yeah it's totally doable to play Genshin with non meta characters, unless you use the few absolute bottom tier chars as some kind of self torture.
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>>1188666
lmao if you are bad, go watch any of the competent people who went in blind and clear SA in 2 months with bottom tier characters half assed builds and even some 0+ artifacts, talking about people who didnt know shit about the game and just went in because chat ask them too, they fall for the meme about beign super difficult and didnt even try it, necrit is one of them, he clear it not even thinking he could even clear at all with a candace and diluc leading th teams.
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>>1188632
you can clear easily if you do good team comps, theres many busted 4* and realistically if you dont suck at saving currency you can get whatever 5* you are targeting as long as is not consecutive banners, i target nahida raiden miko ayaka and shenhe with free primos and even by losing 50/50 on 4 of them i still got them, i got enough f2p primos to target something else again and get it even by losing 50/50, that is not counting my other 5*s that are the lost 50/50s that fill the teams too, dont fall for the f2p meme, you get enough to get 5* just not constelation 6 thats it but is irrelevant unless you want lower time clears that are already under 40 seconds kek.
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>>1188729
I see. Well hopefully star rail opperates similarly. Currently my favorite character is 4*, which is cool. I dont mind mostly using 4* if it doesnt feel like pulling teeth.
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I'm going to regret falling for the Seele light cone meme if Silver Wolf is the next banner.
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>>1188737
Silver Wolf is supposed to come in 1 month on June 7 along with Luocha (5 star) and Yukong (4 star)
Just play everyday and build up your stash
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>>1188712
bullshit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-MFg_0wY4U
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>>1188554
marketing, lots of shills, being piss easy that even children can clear things, appealing to fujos
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>>1188823
>piss easy
Genshin has a lot of things you can do to make life easier for you, but just as many to make life hard to impossible. Raising your world level too fast is an easy brick nowadays.

Likewise some weekly bosses are downright absurd.
Childe is "get hit once and he's gonna do instant kill moves without caring", and yes even if you cleanse ASAP this can happen.
Then you have the Raiden fight with is just damage sponge BS that is cancer for any melee, and range sucks ass in the game. The absolute bullshit that is the other Inazuma weekly boss with sheer cold/heat. In general the shitshow that is Inazuma gameplay-wise, like perma radiation protect your thingy sidequest and the glorious fatui bad game design barriers on top of it.

Really, if you ever get to the point you have meta teams with good meta artifacts.. yeah. Piss easy might be true. But that's that. There's more than enough difficult shit.. though mostly difficult for all the wrong reasons, and coop usually solves this if you wanna let yourself get carried.


It's gonna be interesting to see how Star Rail is going to develop. Genshin most definitely fell victim to the "more gimmicks" problem that some games have. Inazumi peaked there, luckily Sumeru added an element so they could dial back a little in this regard. Turn based games can definitely do really gimmicky cancerous shit as well. And while for a one time boss in a game that can be alright, the nature of gacha implies: There's nothing one time.
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>>1188835
>Childe is "get hit once and he's gonna do instant kill moves without caring", and yes even if you cleanse ASAP this can happen.
you sound like the kind of guy that got story childe nerfed in the first place, isn't it enough to run to the edge of the arena to avoid his whale thing? even then, 9 people ouf of 10 can nuke him before he starts casting the move
>Then you have the Raiden fight with is just damage sponge BS
That is literally every boss after Childe, they dont know how to balance things at all or make good fights, so they just bloat HP pools and give each boss 20 seconds long periods where they are invincible, so all the bursts you used expire and have to regain energy
>There's more than enough difficult shit
You are confusing tedium and difficulty
>It's gonna be interesting to see how Star Rail is going to develop
Oh its gonna be a shitshow for sure, againg, mihoyo can't balance anything, and we already have a lot of cases where enemies will use big "fuck you" moves if you don't immediatly resolve their gimmicks. Add gacha to that, constellations, and that by the looks of it, all upcoming characters have retarded gimmicks and conditions to fulfill before they can start dishing out damage for a limited time, and its gonna be an actual nightmare
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>>1187979
Can't judge until I see the endgame properly (yes I know what it looks like but I want to see how full built teams play in hard content) and the patch cycle and the content we get

But it's been fun, I had more fun than Genshin during 1.0
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>>1188882
Again, you are speaking from the view of someone who is in endgame, has artifacts and all that shit. The game is very different now. Due to the massive amount of shit in it, you simply don't get to endgame that fast, making stuff like "just burst childe, lul" not a thing.
Fuck, Raiden lvl 70 even lives past her stunned phase, so fucking bloated is her HP pool, and my major chars are lvl 80 asc5, while she dishes out ungodly amounts of damage all the time to the point melee gets ultra wrecked.

I don't doubt that once you go full on meta yadayada it's all easy. But a lot of these fights are not just tedious, but downright hard to do until then. Hard implying you have several chars die to two-shot or one-shot damage.
There's definitely a lot of design that happened in Genshin that does not assume new players leave the first two areas before they aren't max AR with well equipped chars and artifacts. And yeah, that probably didn't happen (after all an entire year was just that). Add to that so many shitty bosses added that newer players can't reach to the point they can't even USE many different chars they can very well pull, as their materials aren't available to them yet, and it's a shitshow.

I just pray that Star Rail is more aware of this. Nothing worse than if you pull for a 5 star as a new player and then realize that you can't fucking ascent them.
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>>1188999
>once you go full on meta yadayada it's all easy
Prior to actually dropping it, I played hilariously unoptimized teams because the tought of spending another month farming artifacts actively made me want to uninstall the game. Besides subpar artifacts, I used hutao, who arguably gets fucker over the most thanks to their boss design mentality since half of her buffed up state is wasted on bosses having their silly drawn out animations.
What Im getting at, is that my approach was far from meta, and I had no problems. The closest genshin gets to this problem is doing azdaha without a shield character since you can't avoid his quakes
>I just pray that Star Rail is more aware of this
they arent if the ice shota is anything to go by
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>>1188820
giv Yanqing bf
giv Jing Yuan dad
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Anyone else getting friend requests from absolute strangers, what do they want from me? I don't even have a support char set up.
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>>1189218
I get friend requests from random russians all the time. I decline them all cause I don't spean russian
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>After I clear all available planets I'll have to wait a year for each new one
Wait...nyo...
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>>1189218
>I don't even have a support char set up.
same. i accept them because i a lonely friendless loser
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>>1189315
welcome to mihoyo update circle, you get 5 hours of content a year and 50 hours of dialogue
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>>1189218
>not maxing out your friends list to 50 and changing your bio to something gay like "Let's be friends (づ ◕‿◕ )づ" instead of the default no bio
just accept those requests. you'll get the max extra credit from your support character everyday, assuming you have a decent one like Seele or Welt
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Building characters take so long, and I'm not even talking about minmaxing relics. Just traces+ascending+char and cone levels are already such a pain in the ass.
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>>1189882
You just dont get enough resources from stamina based content. The drops you can get from farming random enemies in the field are already easy to get because you can get them from missions. I am putting gear on the back burner, the game throws so many purple gear at you from chests that Ill just make that work.
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What are you guys doing for a second team in the hall?
My first I have a hypercarry Selee team so I'm not really concerned there but no dragonloli for the second and only 4*s + mc to pick from for it there too.
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>>1190874
I have Gepard so I just ran him solo and other team got Nat.
With no Bailu or Gepard, can probably run one team with just Natasha and the other with fireMC and March.
If you have Clara, using her with march instead of firemc is probably going to be better unless you need fire to break.
Hall is kind of a pain in the ass if you don't have both Bailu and Gepard.
MoC that you unlock after 15 is even worse and I don't think I am getting any rewards out of there before Equilibrium 4. Character pool is kinda bad to force it at low level unless you whale, need majority of the 5*s
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>>1190883
Yeah "unfortunately" the only gacha 5*s I have is Selee and Bronya. It does make for a solid first team that's going to be hard to replace but not much for a second.
Guess something like Fire MC/March/Several/Qingque might be my best bet for a second team currently.
I'd still like to try and have a okay second team to try and get a bit of MoC even if it's only the first couple of stages at best.
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I've only started the game yesterday and reached the first planet. When does the game open up and let me fight, grind and shit? It's just been dialogue after dialogue.
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>>1191405
Story mode is mostly dialogue with some fights in between scenes.
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>>1191405
level up your trailblazer level to 20, 25, and 30
you'll unlock more of the calyxes and daily dungeons to auto ascension materials and relics
fastest way to do that is just keep playing the story
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is the fox girl any good?
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>>1191463
for now she goes on your clara team since bronya is with seele
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Do you think they will ever release a generic dupe item for characters?
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>>1191475
no.
they will keep monthly rotation of the 4* characters available for glitter in shop, but you are not getting anything else
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>>1191471
I've been using both for most content
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>>1191425
>>1191462
Okay got it, I'll just uninstall.
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>>1191485
Yeah you get more characters later which opens up team building but it's still largely the same thing so if you're not already having fun it probably won't matter.
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which light cone would be better on natasha? have cornucopia, quid pro quo, and perfect timing
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>>1191518
Best one of those 3 is cornucopia lol. If you can pull Shared Feeling or Warmth Shortens Cold Nights those are good too but Bailu's cone or Post-OP Conversation are the ideal ones
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How much EHR% should I build for Himeko?
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>>1164819
>Gepard isn't THAT good.
>>1164895
>Gepard just isn't that good.
This aged like milk.
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Man memory stage 14 is being pain.
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is this game good
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>>1193340
I like it but thinking of dropping it after building up my characters until they release more worlds.
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-40 minutes until the entirety of /hsr/ bricks their account
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>>1188712
Are you fucking retarded the first spiral abyss was literally slimes and mitachurls. It was so unbelievably piss-easy of course you could do it as any character.
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I have some google play money. if I spent it on the monthly log in gems, will I have any issue accessing it when I am on the PC client? I know android and apple clients sometimes dont share paid gems.
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>>1193423
I have no issue. Bought the pass on android, I can see the jades on both my phone and pc client.
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>>1193425
Thanks brother
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>>1193390
>rolling for m*les
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>E6 sushang
>not a single tingyun
Just give me this fucking fox already
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>>1193521
Honestly surprised they don't let you buy the 4 stars off the banner with pity
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I saved up 90 star jellies and just found out the pity is a 50% chance at the new thunderlord guy
;/ fml
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>>1193340
It was very good when there was content. Now its kinda ok. Id be happier if there was a daily content a bit more engaging than the daily side mission quest. Weekly dungeon is fine, weekly boss fights are fine. Just need a daily challenge to smooth over the wait for more main story.
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>>1193536
just don't lose the 50/50 and pull him before 90 pulls??? lmao ez
but this is why people save 180 pulls instead of 90 for the worst case scenarios
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>>1193562
I ended up with Bronya after 20 and 70 later had an E3 Yanq. Grinded another 10 and got Jin.
I have a decent team to finish the story withh now.

Is there a reason to pull after getting the featured for more dupes before it changes or do I wait til Jin is featured again?
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>>1193574
unless he's your absolute favorite character 1 copy is all you need of him
dupes are just for eidolon boosting and while yes it boosts his damage you have to remember he only takes you so far, you need to mix and match elements for simulated universe/memory of chaos for endgame content
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WT6ARKZQT5D3
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>>1193589
nah, gepards my favorite nigger. I'm going to just roll the regular event for him
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Got half way through gepard phase 3 in simulated universe stage 3 difficulty 2. gepard is a CUNT.
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>>1194283
Use Sushang Serval Physical MC and a healer (Natasha/Bailu) and choose the Blessing path at the start
It was so easy after that

Of course max out your traces and have them all at level 50 to guarantee them winning
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>>1194341
which blessing path?
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>>1194372
nta but if you have Seele, hunt is incredible. You could try preservation with shields, I assume it would work really well with Clara and/or FireMC. Destruction path/blessings are also fun ones but for higher difficulty I prefer hunt.
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>>1194486
I tend to preservation + hunt or erudition depending on what comes up. Its pretty neat to turn shields into a 20k+ damage aoe. Makes me want to drop March and build Gepard to go wild with it.
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>>1194372
Hunt Blessing sorry it cut off
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>>1194283
Abundance. I posted it in the other thread as well, but pic related actually ended up autoing it, because you have literally 0 damage. But they can't kill you either.

Not I don't know what dif 2 Gepard does. Didn't watch my auto.
It's really all about blessings though.
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>>1194283
You should make a call on what you are missing more, if you can deal damage just fine, then try using Preservation/Abundance and just grind it out.
If you are surviving just fine, stack speed stat with Hunt and roll him over.
His shield in p2 and p3 is really annoying and will take forever to break no matter what. You should save your defensive skills like Natasha ult for the phase transitions. He always opens with pointing a finger which makes the whole squad gang up on your character. If he picks a soft target it's good to have something to use out of turn to save them.
Also, if something goes really bad, you can close the game and then try again. It wont restore your Technique points, but sometimes it's better to try again with a build that can win, than start the whole thing over.
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>>1161001
What about PUBG-mobile, Fortnight Mobile and even COD multiplayer?
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>>1193340
>mihoyo
no
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I like this game. Should I get the monthly pass?
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>>1194708
It's pretty good value at $5. I'd say it depends on how you feel about spending on gacha games.
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>>1194708
no
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>>1194518
Oh wow. Are there any blessings I should specifically look out for?
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>>1194708
Maybe
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>>1195154
This is pretty hard to explain, as it's largely just logical stuff. Everything keeping you save, helping your healing in some kind of way. Destruction blessings can also work like that, as they buff you when you get low HP, which automatically means you are less likely dying.

That said, my by far easiest time I've had in any SU was a hunt build in world 6. Fast, and the enemy could basically not fight back. The problem with the different worlds is just that you need the right weakness. World 6 is prime hunting day, because fire and quantum means Hook and Seele absolutely destroy. But for me that's the only two high damage chars I have, that work with Hunt. World 3 is more of a Clara/M7 and whatnot thing for me, so follow up, destruction and abundance are my choices. I've heard the boss is really bad for Hunt as well, so even if you have raised Sushang, it could be hard to make Hunt work.

Abundance: Just outheal everything. Bailu is obviously really good for that. I chose the "prevents ko once" upgrade at 6, but others may work.. I don't know if it ever triggered either. Destruction blessings can work well here, to buff you up when low.

Destruction: Same idea, but you deal damage via destruction path action. You should take the 6 blessing upgrade that trades HP for a shield. Works well with preservation and abundance on top. Probably the easiest to play, but you need to rush 6 destruction blessings. Hard requires a good and invested healer, nothing different to Abundance though.

Follow up: I can't recommend this one, as you need so many high rarity blessings for this to work. If it works, it works, but you basically hard require the blessing turning ultimates into follow ups, AND upgrade it, as well as follow ups getting their own follow ups on top, together with a bunch of other follow up increasing things. It's cool when it works though.

Preservation: Never tried it, but so far all paths I tried worked out, so I doubt this wouldn't.
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Epic seven reference? Hoyo confirmed for bros
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>>1195336
>reference
the game literally copies E7 design decisions for things like combat and equipment, your "bros" are just another case of chinks plagiarizing shit until they are caught
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>>1195348
I like how people always claim shit like that, even though it tends to up like "there are sets, also substats, also levels, also speed is a stat that can give you more turns!".

Honestly, every fucking turn based rpg is extremely similar for good reasons. There's only so much you can do, without it getting retarded. You will NOT make anything new, period. The best you can hope to do is giving it a twist.

Like if you play Atelier Sophie 2, you'll realize that it's basically Star Rail. Speed is broken, enemies have to be broken before you can unleash serious damage and so on. Does Star Rail copy it, or did Sophie 2 copy Star Rail? No. Break mechanics exist since forever (even in Atelier), and speed not just being turn order has been done since the atb days.
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>>1195363
downplaying things doesnt help your case
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>>1195363
Are you on a 640x480 screen?
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>epic shitter seeting again
lmao lol kek
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Can't even fathom the thought process that goes into thinking some random gook game invented turn based combat conventions.
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>3 samefag replies because I dared to insult cuckhoyo
Cry more
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>>1195380
It's more like you insulted yourself by posting something so stupid.
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>>1195381
yet you are the one having a meltdown over it, funny how that works
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>>1195383
you melted down over this >>1195336 joke post bwo...
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A friend of mine said it's not worth seriously farming relics before EQ6, is it true? Or am I being baited? EQ3 btw.
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>>1195386
mate you started spamming the thread, me pointing out the obvious doesn't even compare to your autism
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>>1195391
you're the one who launched into an autistic fit of rage over a single post poking fun at it bwo...
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>>1195389
It's not worth to farm relics before EQ4. The random shit you get will be good enough.
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Barely unlocked MoC and good god shit hits hard.
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>>1195412
no duh memory of chaos is end game content
you're supposed to be max equilibrium max trace level and have 5 star artifacts with perfect stats along with competent teambuilding. eidolons are helpful here too. but it's supposed to be hard because this is where you farm stellar jades biweekly for future rolls.
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>>1195415
I dunno how quickly I'm going to hit max equilibrium but I do like investing in characters at least.
Wouldn't mind seeing what you call competent teambuilding tho, cuz so far I've really been hiding behind "Selee goes brr"
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>>1161001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3iKdeQaw3g
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bros... i got nothing left to do.....
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Ended up beating SU level 3 difficulty 2 with hunt focus, fire mc, march, serval, and natasha. serval died in the final 20%, but got a hunt nuke off and finished it up.
I also got the curio that gives you 16% damage for every 100 currency you have, and didn't spend any all run. It was surprisingly effective but I dont know if I would do that again.
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>>1164627
Same. Well i'm more in for the lovecraftian story telling, which may or may not happen. Missing the outerworlds from Honkai Gauken. Generally a bit more spicy is needed. The location themeing goes as any other Honkaiverse/Hoyoverse game so far. So there probably is a Fu Hua mirror on it's way.

>>1164933
Genshin is a good game in its own way, it's just a based on local story telling over character narrative focused on growth. While HSR is a brige between both, having a main cast and travelling between locations. If they can wing it needs to be seen, too early to say.
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>>1197374
>lovecraftian story telling
What the fuck does that mean in this context.
>Genshin is a good game in its own way
It really isn't, it tries to do what a narrative based game does and it fails at them, and then fails at having good gameplay.
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>>1197427
Lovecraftian as in H. P. Lovecraft, book author. Honkai is hard inspired by it. I guess you could call it "cosmic horror". Sure you heard about Cthulhu and stuff. That's pretty much how Honkai started from Gauken to Impact. Some of the outer observers in the old games basically were 1 to 1 copies of the cosmic entities, down to the name. It evolved far from back then.

But yes, it failed to make a good opening act and the story so not really creating a good setting. Like in the past, they may fix things like this down the line, but who knows what pep is directing this or if they just wanna go the generic route. Publishing generic stuff seems to be hot rn.
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>>1197470
If you are calling the background lore of either of those games "Lovecraftian", I'm afraid you have never read a Lovecraft novel. I would suggest starting with his paper "Supernatural Horror in Literature", you can get most of his library of work here https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/ (unfortunately it doesn't has his letters).
If you want dive deeper, I found this course really good, though I would also suggest taking the Gothic Literature one too:
https://signumuniversity.org/course/litb-5306/

Now, do all of that, and then try calling fucking Honkai backstory "Lovecraftian" again just because it borrows some names. Holy shit.
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>>1182389
I’d replace march with almost anyone else. You dont need her if you have a healer because her shield is so weak
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>>1197470
>Like in the past, they may fix things like this down the line
Mihoyo's staple is to:
A) leave things as is and hope people stop asking about it
B) run things into the ground
A is genshit, B is honkshit
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Fluffy mechanics have improved with Star Rail. Tingyun is the fluffiest
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cn stream summary
>Silver Wolf banner (Asta/Danheng/Serval)
>Otto banner (Yukong/Qingque/Pela)
>Free 4* Yukong in 1.2 - NOT IN 1.1
>Free 4* Nihility Light Cone from event, supposedly s5
>Added Belobog Museum Area
>Chat system with friends
>Total of 5 Events
>4 Story Quests: Silver Wolf, Luocha, Yanqing, Bailu
>New Daily Log-In for 10 rolls
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>ran out of money
>ran out of XP books
>still have so many guys to level
b-bros...
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>>1198714
Same. I spent all my fucking fuel and ended up being able to asc5 all chars, but only average lvl 66 or so. My fault for trying to get 10 chars through, but still. Where's the fun when I can't raise all my 5 stars and at least the bare minimum of elements for 4 stars + the ones I like.

In comparison, I spent my fuel for asc4 as well, but there I could get all asc4, all asc4 for the cones as well, AND level all chars to max as well, and ended up with leftover fuel.
Pain. Might ignore the next world level for a bit.
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I just downloaded this game, I'm already at level 7 and holy fuck this shit is boring. The first two difficult boss fights aren't even that difficult, just tedious.

Will this game get better soon enough or is this all it has to offer?
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>>1198935
If you didn't like it now you won't like it later. RPGs are like that for most people.
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I managed to get tingyun which was pretty cool. Strangely I have pulled zero males from summons, only female characters. And they all smile in the character screen, while the male ones I have (dan heng and mc) are frowning. What did mihoyo mean by this?
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>>1198936
The problem is that I don't feel any challenge while playing it and I don't have the ability to skip dialogues. It's not that I hate the gameplay itself.
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>>1198937
Women have it easy because all they need to do is act cute and people will spend money for them while male had to go through endless sufferings in order for someone to want them
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I luke how quickly you can complete the daillies in this game compared to genshin. The fact that there's multiple stuff to pick from that can add up to the 500 is much better than being forced to do the 4 quests.
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>>1198919
I forgot what it was like to be resource starved after almost 3 years of Genshin. Having to actually run calx to get money or XP is something I didn't think about having to do since I have tens of millions of mora and over a thousand xp books in Genshin
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How are there as many prime numbers as natural numbers?? AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Space china has some real qts like foxslut, mahjong slut and cock slut
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>>1199031
And they are all 4 star. Missed opportunity.
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>>1199031
they are all just rejected genshin designs
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>>1199033
Better for me since they're (ususlly) easier to get
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>>1199034
genshit obviously prefers superior designs like yae (lol) and kirara (lmao)
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>>1199037
Have you seen the leaks though? the upcoming hsr designs look no better than shit in genshin. One of those was basically hutao with yoimiyas clothes
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>>1199031
>cock slut
Who's that?
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>>1199039
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>>1199038
>One of those was basically hutao with yoimiyas clothes
instant roll
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Bitchin'.
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I just started this game, I thought it wouldn't be my thing because I wasn't into Genshin Impact, but when I learnt it's turn-based I gave it a go. I think I am just done with tutorial and game is already shilling me it's gacha, what should I roll, any advice?

Kind of want to get Bronya, because it means armor in Russian, and I am assuming she'd be a top tier tank.
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>>1199178
>m*le trailblazer
cringe
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>>1199210
Bronya is a top tier support, not much of a tank. Also good luck getting her because she's only on the standard banner so there's never a guarantee that you'll get her.
Also never, ever, ever spend your stellar jade on the Standard Warp
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>>1199223
Thanks for the advice, the currencies and whatnot are still confusing to me, but I figured it's best to really go for limited stuff.
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Discussion over at /vg/ feels like being stuck in an eternal time loop with people making the exact same posts and asking the exact same things but discussion here is too slow and dead.
Feels bad man
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>>1199363
Every gacha game is like that dude
90% of the content is "Did you pull the new character?" the other 10% is "how bad this game sucks because I couldn't pull the new character"
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>>1199385
>Every gacha game is like that dude
No this is a mihoyo exclusive thing.
I can pick up a gacha and talk about it with people. Like there's shitposters but usually the retards are a minority and the threads are good most of the time.

The retards obsessed with stirring shit and getting a rise out of others outnumber the people wanting to discuss shit ten to one and it's actually impossible to discuss anything without feeling like you're in a mental asylum.
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>>1199387
You must be new to /vg/ then. Lurk in more gachashit generals, it's always the same shit.
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>>1199388
>No it's always like that
>Explain why its not
>Heh, you must be new here

I liked and was playing gachashit before you even knew this site existed. I wish every discussion on this shitty site didn't always end up like this where some idiot thinks they have all the answers and everyone else is wrong. You're most definitely the problem if you take that attitude to every thread you post in.
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>>1199391
Sure bro.
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Bros I hit the exp/credits wall...
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Is Himeko a decent roll? I just got her and I felt that Asta is better despite being 4 star
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>>1199400
I think the Prydwen tierlist is decent personally.

Things I would change is move Welt down to where Asta is because he's situational as fuck right now. Drop Bronya one tier too because she's great but she's not as impactful to your account as Seele, Bailu or Gepard.
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>>1199403
I cropped out the top part accidentally but the tierlist is organized into Damage dealer / Offensive support / Defensive support
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>>1199400
Meta-wise by far the worst 5* currently in game
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Is the premium pass worth it?
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>>1199407
The premium pass? You mean the monthy $5? If you can afford it then it definitely is.
The BP is pretty great for resources early on too since it gives you the resources you need but again, only if you need it and see yourself still playing the game in a few months.
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>>1199398
Get your wallet out laowai
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>>1199408
I meant the Nameless Honor
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>>1199412
I bought it for the materials desu. But honestly think it's not worth it.
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>>1199415
There's not much to upgrade in the game though except level ups and light cores. Am I wrong?
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>>1199416
You're not wrong but as you approach higher levels you need more and more and I wanted to raise two teams.
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Huohuo coming soon
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>>1199436
don't care
when's kafka
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>>1199453
1.2
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>>1199457
so far
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So, I have Bronya, Yanqing, Bailu, Clara and I need a composition for them.

Atm I'm using Yanqing, Bronya, Bailu and Fire Trailblazer.
For team 2 I'm using Clara, Tingynum, Natasha and March 7th. It is a good comp or can be better?
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>>1199471
bro ur seele?
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>>1199472
didnt get her unfortunately
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I got the Nameless Honor pass and I only have 7 days left to boost up to level 50. I shouldn't have bought the pass
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>>1199471
it looks solid, the only thing I'd think about is if it's worth it to tank 5* costs for building Yanqing when you don't really have shields big enough to stop him from losing his passive
with Bronya support and no shields, Dan, Hook and Sushang will probably perform similarly in fights that have frequent AOE (all of them lol)
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>>1199363
>/vg/
Don't do it
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Is Sampo good? I just got him from my standard wishes
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Tried the "refreshing" abyss in Star Rail, and gotta say that's just bad game design for 1.0. Absolutely requires 2 healer (or at least Gepard +1 healer) if you wanna do anything normally there, which, for 1.0, is just retarded.

This dual fight per team shouldn't have been in the game yet. In Genshin when you manage to 3 star the normal Abyss fully, you can still nab a bunch of extra stars past that pretty easily, not so much in Star Rail, where the difficulty is amped due to the sudden dual fight. Shame they fucked that one up so hard. It's very disappointing that the only "hard" part is that the accumulating damage is too much for your max HP pool. It'd have been easy otherwise. I'll still not raise Nat though.

For 1.0 where people only have access to 1 easy healer, this just feels really retarded. Sure, with enough crit and RNG fishing, you might be fine, but that's retarded when a second healer would make it free instantly. I hope another easily available char with an ultimate that heals (or at least shields) comes soon. Quite a dumb move by them.
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>>1199495
yeah, i dont know too desu. I wish i had gepard so i could use him instead traiblazer tho.
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>them
What? Should it be "it" since it's some kind of creature that doesn't seem to have offspring
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>>1199602
I will give Pom-Pom offspring.
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>>1199539
just roll for the healer in 1.1 bro
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>>1199613
Luocha is hard to treat like a healer. He's more of a debuffeer that happens to have healing and it's a gamble on whether he will contribute anything to MoC compared to pulling Gep or Bailu
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I wish I rolled for Seele
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>>1199602
Probably related to Akivili since the aeons are all referred the same way
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Why do they put the third member so far back? Dan Heng looks so small now
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Bronya is so cute. I want to bully her, comfort and headpat her, and then bully her again.
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>>1199891
it bothers me that the second party member is closest to the screen
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>>1199363
its either waifu posting, ritual posting, or brick posting. 99% of posters on /vg/ are sub-human hylics.
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>>1199391
sounds more like you're the asshole trying to stir shit with comments like that. /vg/ generals for gachas are always cancer especially the more popular they are.
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Who do you like to set as your support character? I'm just using Bailu
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>>1200548
fox slut and carpet muncher
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>get the same artifact 3 times in a row from SU
what the fuck
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Phew, the ult came back in the nick of time...
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just logged in for my CCP mandated 5 minutes of gameplay. feels just like how genshin was when it first released.
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>>1199412
Today is a Peaceful Day is the most broken light cone you can get off of it, actually a pretty good backup light cone if you can't pull Jing Yuan's light cone on his banner.
But like the other dude said don't buy it unless you plan on keeping up with the game it's a waste of money otherwise



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