Next week, get ready for the main update and a new banner!>New Heroes Banner:Grunhind (Grenshiel) / Joa & ConnieWho would you like to pull this time? Also, a new collab is coming at the end of April.Heroes from the game "The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki" will be available to summon. >Exclusive Limited-Time Banner:Agnes / ElaineDuring the event you can get the shards for the game's protagonist, Van Arkride.Don't miss it!
I'm in this awkward position where I need moons for 3c, but not strong enough to tackle lv70 eternal temple.
>>115153765 is 50/50, so it's not the worst thing in the world. Sissi's shop also gives moons, and Forbidden Battlegrounds whenever that comes back. Should probably cheese Valk 70 too so you at least get around 5 moons a week. The covenants have made ET a lot easier too alongside extra stats from casting, so if not being strong enough is just an assumption, you might as well give it a try.
>>1151572There's a cheese strat? I tried covenant but I don't have too many units built.
>>1151522Grenshiel looks annoying to fight against, but I guess even for her being anti tank push it still hasn’t stopped CN from adopting 3-4 tank boxes.>>1151537Aren’t there moons given out for some events too? I remember the forbidden battleground had a lot of beginner friendly bond and 3C items.
>>1151585You can hit her with Heal Reversal while just letting Sky Archers spawn, then using aoes to let them kill Valk.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pREJtUntWEEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci7f_cjAF5whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GsHjFYOOyMOnly update is Wettham, who has undispellable Heal Reversal, so you can aoe across 2 turns which just makes it insanely easy, Could probably do it with just Varna+Ham since Ham has his own aoe too.
Holy shit
Hero build pics and guide but all in Chinese https://mp.weixin.qq.com/mp/appmsgalbum?action=getalbum&album_id=1325329769227190273Japanese farmville calc https://hisa-memo.com/lang-contract-calc/
>another pale staffcan anyone even use these without gimping themselves anymore
Langrisser? Sounds like motor oil.
>>1151794Any mage that will never aoe and any map you don’t need scepter.
>>1151607I'll keep this in mind, once I unlock sonya's 3c or roll Ham, whichever comes first.
Hold up, that chink apex tier dude put Freya above Christiane the last time? I don't usually care about his list but that sounds wild.
I've gotten more SSRs from map events than the join battle where you have to babysit angelica.
>have hilda and landius>want to build grenieraaaa fack this ranged tank to win gayme >_>
Bros, what happened to the build a banner?
>>1152660the free crystals bug
>Spend burgers to get all the passive buffs for the challenges>Still get my ass kickedI'll just do my dailies and pretend they don't exist.
Is there anywhere I can find a recap of the story? I reached several chapters into going to the new map continent of Yeless before dropping the game for a couple years.
>>1152972try it later, but finish your farming this week
>>1152503>not Thor+AoE rushing the first spawnyou will win the Event if you kill most of the Troops in the first turn simultaneously
>explicitly do aniki 70 so i don't have to do it twice for the sp mission>get to stage 2>have to do it all over againfuck this clunky chink garbage, bad enough you have to spend even more challenge points on this shit and they pull this
Not to sound like a perv or anything, but Grenshiel in the pic related looks like she's nopan, right?
>>1153799>Not to sound like a pervBro you're on 4chan. She could be but it isn't drawn in a way to make it anything more thatn schrodingers panties.
I lucked out and pulled Listell today. Now I can work on my valk cheese for those sweet moon drops.
>>1153799>nopanwhat the fuck is a nopan?>>1153862she really isn't used much but when you face self-healing enemies she's really the only one you can reliable count
>>1154048>what the fuck is a nopanNo panties.
>only 2 bonus units for the Redd(A) currency>no one's doing parties
Questions:Does this game have voiced story in English?Is the PVE in this game good enough to play around in? PVP turn based sounds like a nightmare in terms of real time commitment per match
>>1154154Yes but the voices (Japanese and English) are dropped in story mode, if I remember correctly from act 2 onwards and none of the new units are dubbed in English.For your other question, I recommend this recent reddit posthttps://www.reddit.com/r/langrisser/comments/121cxky/is_langrisser_getting_too_hardcore_for_commercial/
>>1154154>Does this game have voiced story in English?Text only, no english va. Hell the main story isn't voiced at all after a certain point, just gacha units.>Is the PVE in this game good enough to play around in?Yes but it is heavily timegated even considering just collecting at least the heavy majority of non collab units overtime is a small part of the expected experience. Even with PvP, it's not necessarily pay2win, it's pay4convenience where most of the cash spent it you whale is buying a bunch of shit to cut down the grind some, and the devs know this. Still even if f2p if you're willing to treat it like the long marathon it is, you'll have fun.>PVP turn based sounds like a nightmare in terms of real time commitment per matchYes but no. Auto "PvP" is easy and fast just tedious. Regular PvP is cancer but you get rewards without even playing it depending on your server (or not, I can't be sure of the exact numbers on world arena). And weekend PvP, which is what they actually balance around somewhat is relatively fast but is a cancer all on it's own even just to get 1 match a week for 50 crystals. There are better players here than I if you want more in-depth detail but timezones are a thing, so don't be afraid to check the thread later on.also meem pic
Lmao wtf, this guy is an actual god.https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=35174936&rand=444Full Rag clears in less than a year f2p. Although tbf, Rag gets easier the more stages and gods they release since you get the stat boosts clearing easier stages for the later ones plus we have casting now, and you can max out Freya/Thor/Odin/Baldr rather than being stuck with Heim. Pretty curious what he used for 2-4 also. Also have no doubt in my mind that he probably spent every single extra crystal grinding out Aniki.
Since >>1154309 brought up newbies, here's an English player with yt recordings of his milestones. Obviously not as impressive, but still interesting to observe.>@blazingwolf4288
>>1154309Genuinely impressive, are their enchants and resources just like perfectly utilized and economized? Hard to believe they have the stats for all the stat checks otherwise.
Licorice banner when? I need that dark loli bitch for so many bonds
>>1155357Not anytime soon, you'll probably have to resort to upcoming Wishscam banner if you need her asap
>>1155375Valentine's banner:>King of the Red Moon / Wandering Duelist>Shilinka / Rainforce>Vincent / Iluciaand...>Tiaris / DieharteAdorably based!
>>1155375btw after this is the collab banner and a Akaya/nuZerida banner
>>1155375If I just fuck with pve, which banner should I aim for? I mainly run glory and princess. For SSRs, I have ledin, elwin, tiaris, christianne, liana, Cherie(SP), Yulia, Liana, Luna, Clarett, Shelf and Angelina.
>>1155458I forgot to include LoG and YJess.
>>1155458Helena is goodBerny, Leon isn't too bad either from the same bannerGrunhind sounds like definitive Strategic FB for pveBoserLucretiaWehttam and probably Awakener tooRozencielLight of Genesis but she's on a rate-up
>>1155458>ledin, elwin, tiaris, christianne, liana, Cherie(SP), Yulia, Liana, Luna, Clarett, Shelf and Angelina. I forgot to include LoG and YJess.I would say if you can spare the rolls, grab a unit off of each destiny, as the game is built around that. But you don't have any of Betty/Werner/Helena nor Renata/Listell/Gustav. So for banners I can suggest that seems most useful for you:>If you haven't rolled on Elwin/Bernhardt/Leon and can spare rolls, try to get one of the two. It's fine to skip for now since this banner actually consistently runs.>You are guaranteed a Bozel, get him. No excuses.>Guaranteed Rachel, since you listed Liana twice I assume you have both twins. If not roll anyway if possible. Lana is useful and Rachel locks bonds behind her otherwise worthless ass.>Also be certain to have rolls for Clotaire/Maiya/Lucretia. Even if you get the former two, they are useful bond units, especially Clotaire.>Consider trying for Oboro/King of Red Moon & Azusa/Krueger/Mu if you insure all of the above. Former is just for Oboro mainly, as he's one of the few ramp up units that actually can function in PvE especially if you're having trouble with challenges. Azusa is like Rachel with being a bond unit. Mu and Kreuger are less valuable pulls in comparison.>Wettham is actually useful for tricks and cheese in some PvE in my experience. Awakener I've not seen similar especially as she's ultimately just another modern mage The former's bonds are generally easier to get as well. That being said, they will actually come back for sure but it is a wait and they are still limited.>Definitely roll for Rozenciel, Kaguya is ok and is actually better in pve than pvp so she's not much of a loss>try to get Jugler or Landius>The only Valentine banner you should consider is Dieharte. He's a high amount bond unit, including for Tiaris.Everything after is mostly skippable. Gizarof can be considered as he's rare and is a bond unit.
>>1155553Soon.tfw i'm forced to get autokrato & nuaresfuck bonds
>>1155553Same thing that happened to literally every other banner
farm the event already
>no sign of rozalia for a monthfuck it, i'll give up and build lanford
>>1156156I already did. 30CB isn't fair with level 70s since you basically clear everything in like 4-5 days.
I wanted Grenshiel and got Joa & Connie in pity but honestly I don't give a damn about Gren, indeed J&C are fun to use, pity that most of the endgame are just boss fights...
Gotta say, the tower defense maps this time around are a lot harder and more fun. Larger and more creative maps, slightly different units you can use, and more difficult feats. I know it's only the second time around, but like every other game mode I don't get why these aren't just permanent pieces content that they can constantly add buildings to instead of making it an event.
>>1157990>I don't get why these aren't just permanent pieces content that they can constantly add buildings to instead of making it an event.refreshable rewards
>>1158002It's not like the they're giving out any more rewards since everyone is still completing it once, except now newer players or people who don't have time can complete it whenever they want. I guess technically making it an event does encourage people to not put it off forever like main story, but that's obviously only a problem for people who are way too bored of the game already.
>deathless FB1 is easier than 5 man princess without christianeHate that shill game and it's shill units.
>Connys' voicelines when she's selectedLiterally unplayableWho the fuck approves this violent earrape
>>1158066I don't know what unit you have but you could use Luna and Freya or not even use a tank. the main problems of that map are the Flier and the Tide master as the Priest tank is an imbecile that moves towards you and leaves the two catapults defenseless. So using Luna, two mages, SP Narm and SP Cherie you might have some chance. In the first round you activate the FB, SP Narm possibly oneshot the flier, the two mages defeat the lobster, Cherie 3c on the tide master and the second attack on the earth elf knight. Of course a lot depends on the stats, my SP Narm until the previous battleground was unable to oneshot the battleground fliers.
>Ashemar confession is literally just having sex with her
>>1157676is she even good for PvE?I don't have any Strategic Buffers and her's seems to be an automatic FB after every ally kill which seems fucking nice
>>1158779Her kit isn't bad but she's primarily a PVP unit. The 3c is useful for auto FB but the condition to activate the +15% damage dealt depends on the units you use and several strategic units don't have more than 3 moves. The other skills aren't bad but they're nothing special in PVE.Unfortunately, Strategy has all FB that require special conditions to activate the damage increase:Altemuller: "If terrain increases DEF, damage dealt +15% in battle"Lanford: "If this unit is mixed forces, damage dealt +15% in battle"Grenshiel: "When battling units with lower movement than self, damage dealt in battle +15%"Altemuller and Lanford have to sacrifice a slot and a turn to use FB and being old units they are weaker than Grenshiel.If you are interested try to summon Grenshiel but only if you have at least one of the two bonds (Adankelmo for DEF and Azusa for ATK) and remember that she needs at least 5* to make the most of her talent. Joa & Conny doesn't look like a bad unit but it's for PVP although from what I've tried it can be useful in PVE thanks to Joa's skills and since they are an archer for Empire which is a faction that only has archer collaborations if we exclude Varna which is mostly AoE.
>>1158779She has terrible cooldowns, so she suffers a decent bit but she can be used well. If you're going to bother with strategist pvp you're not getting out of building Altemueller however.
>>1158779Honestly I don't think she's even strictly better than Alte/Lanford for PvE. Alte pretty much always ends up having his 32% attack up for bosses unless you rush and stomp in which case it doesn't matter. 15% command is also nothing to sneeze at, especially with his casting which also gives 10% crit damage and 20% HP recovered of damage dealt. Of the three, Lanford's is also the easiest to consistently get the damage increase since it only depends on your comp, but he has to choose between 3c/FB/Chiv since he doesn't cheat cost. Alte's at least also gives terrain master, although most boss arenas are starting to just be flat.
>>1158992>10% crit damage and 20% HP recovered of damage dealtGiven the non specific wording, this should work on both phases, yes? His command obviously does, and this to be stapled on his talent.
Any advice for tower defense other than "watch youtube video"? I would like to understand more if possible since for level 70 maps you can only use your own units.
>>1159470watch youtube videojust so you understand the gimmicks, then apply what you learned with your own units, even with weaker shit it's still just mechanics at the end of the day
>>1159654I know that feel
>>1159654I spent 350M on enchants just today and still didn't get anything better than the middling enchant I already had (7%/11%/7%) on a piece of armor.
>>1159654>>1159711I mean, the rates are there at least.15% isn't that hard to get if you're just aiming for 1 stat and it's actually much better to use SR scrolls if you only need 1 stat. SR scrolls are like 50/50 on 2 vs 3 lines. So 0.2 and 0.3 respectively, 0.02 for it to hit t4, and 1/6 for it to be completely maxed. ~8/10000 SR scrolls will give you a 15% roll in your desired stat. SSR scrolls are ~25/10000, but SSR scrolls are more than 2x as expensive, and obviously harder to get. As for 350m, or 14k scrolls, that does seem unlikely. Getting get specific desired stats with a t3/t3/t4 roll is ~2/10000. You'll actually just hit a t4/t4 on two desired stats at the same rate, and something like 13%/12% on the more important stats is probably better than mdef. It's also easier to hit for dps since the atk/int rolls for t4 are only 3-5% instead of 10-15%.
>>1158854She’s not bad dingus…
>>1158992Nope she’s better he’s needs buildup bad info as expected…
>>1159810>>1159812Do you have an actual counter argument for what's said in those posts other than basically "no, waifu good no matter what".
Oh, there's actually a new tutorial for tower defense. The rewards aren't great though, it's like 100 crystals for a ton of maps to clear. Just have to click trials on the top left.
How often does Narm's heart of desire come around? I was thinking if to use points on it right away, or get other resources from the shop instead.
>>1160813If you're willing wait and to spend points from DE instead, then you can get Narm's heart that way. I'd have to look up if it is ran then but it's plausible it will be.
>finally got Frigg to 55Lol the non stop act again is great, Helena just solo'd everything until Listell. Had some problems with her since she reflects damage and I was shitting out so much of it, but it was just boring otherwise.
That mermaid sounds annoying and will probably add to the cancer that is ai arena defense, spooky handjob also sounds annoying. Pretty amusing to see an aquatic healer though, that's something I didn't think they would do. Wonder if they'll add an aquatic soldier with 15% healing up next.
For tomorrow's banner, I plan to get lucretia and her bonds. As for the remaining 3 spots, should I just finish Helena's and Christiane's bonds? That would be recruiting Brenda, Virash and Florentia.
>>1163395Sounds good.Get Bozel & Shelfaniel's 3cs already.Shard priority?
>>1163437>Shard priority?Elwin, Yulia(almost done), Christiane and LoG. I've been using extra wheels to bump them up and now with the double entry event, I'll push shelf and helena as well.
Reading Lovina and LB's GoF and it makes me somewhat interested in actually reading through Act 3 instead of skipping everything. Man, I wish they had just gotten a native EN speaker to translate from the start or at least edit. I guess it's somewhat improved from the days of google translate getting pronouns wrong, but it's still so clearly stilted and bad, and we still get wrong pronouns or sometimes. Also whoever is doing the translation sometimes just doesn't bother finding equivalent idioms or expressions in English to CN proverbs so you get word salads that make no sense.
Bros, what stat do I want for Light of genesis? Weap and acc are INT, not sure what defensive stat I should go for armor and helm. I only have SR stuff btw
>>1163910>sr stuffthen don't waste enchants, dumbo. it's a huge endless gold sink and you want to mitigate it somewhat by only burning gold on the best stuff to usebut if you're going to anyway, hp and def are good
>>1163338>that mermaidthe what now?
>>1164085The mermaid.
i have a really competant princess team, a really good 'saints only' team but i can't find a good third team. hilda and sage just can't get strong enough for most pve content i'm at. neither can landius, apparently
>>1164154The problem with Hilda and Landius is that they both need to be 6*. Obviously having strong soldiers helps but due to how their atk>def conversion scales based on * anything below 6* will be a decent chunk weaker.
land is 6* but and decently kitted but i can't seem to get decent enchants to make him tank like christine or saintess. need a better healer for their factions too. could use IC i guess
>>1164162Yeah you need good atk/hp enchants, but Landius will never take hits as well as more recent tanks; he's simply too old. I would recommend using a healer that isn't Tiaris for your princess runs and throwing her with Landius, assuming this is for shit like covenant.
>>1164167He's got no innate damage reduction, plus royal cavs are a meme.
>>1164167whats the list of good healers look like right now, i have rosalina and tiaris for 2/3 teams but i don't have a good third, who has the heal after being attacked i need?
>>1164190maxed lanford:)
>>1164095Those are some nice assets.
>>1164190Pretty much every dedicated healer is worth bringing in pve for some reason or another, with Tiaris and Rozen being god tier. You could try to make do with Sophia, regen is kinda shit at 10% hp but iirc healing buffs increase that by a bit. Not by a lot but it's workable if you just need to take 2-3 hits. There's also Elma but I'm not sure if she's worth building for pve. I made decent use of her from time to time but I cba to keep swapping gear so she's been on the bench for a while. There's also the mermaid coming up but she doesn't look terribly good at keeping your tank alive.
>>1164154>>1164158>>1164162I used Hilda 5* with no DEF bond until a few months ago as main tank in act 2 and some act 3 maps, AB where possible, covenants, Battlegrounds and event challenges and I can assure that the girl does her job well if supported by the right units. Landius 5* I only used him in AB, Battleground lv 60 and a test ride with my team Yeless in the first three Thor maps and he too, even if with difficulty, works decently and it should be remembered that he doesn't have good tanks soldiers like other tanks.If the tanks do not survive in PVE it is because either they fail the stats check, or because the soldiers are not upgraded enough or because they are not supported in the right way.The only thing I can recommend is to use both Hilda and Landius in lancer class if possible, they have more HP and DEF and both should not tank magic attacks if possible. Depending on what content you're looking to do, Royal Cavalry are mandatory, especially if you're in the second half of Act 2.Without knowing what unit you have, what your current level of soldiers are, and what content you're trying to make, it's a bit difficult to give more precise advice.
>>1164190Tiaris & Rozenciel. The first for normal challenges, the second when there is too much AoE, debuffs and especially AoE debuffs.Elma. Light mirror is a crazy skill and candle decreases magic damage by 20% and has other useful skills. Elma's only flaw is that light mirror is only applicable on one unit, mainly the tank.Liana. High healing and especially useful when dealing with maps where you don't receive more than 2 maximum 3 enemy phase attacks plus it has AA, Summon, Gospel and the 3c.Florentia. Useful skills and in the absence of Elma is the only healer for Tensei.Sophia and Melania. The first can be especially useful for the EE and Rewind, the second is an interesting healer but requires some care to use and needs bonds units that you wouldn't normally summon.I don't have Lugner but I've heard good things about himAlmeda can be useful in some cases and might work in the absence of other healers.
>>1164326>I don't have Lugner but I've heard good things about himnta but he's just ssr sophia with debuffs and no rewind. he's a nice flex slot if you need a 2nd healer with the whole package but don't rush to get him.
>>1164326thank you for thisi have luger but idk if i wanna poor resources into him until i hear hes good
>>1164794if you don't have his bonds just wait
>tfw utterly fucking bankrupt>like 4000 gold poor with a ~10mil bill waiting to be coveredGold is the actual true wall in this game, there's no way to make it beyond what is dripfed daily
>>1165166>he fell into the enchant minesat least you have 80/80/80/80 training on all troop types ...right?
>Berserker: Critical hit rate +30%. ATK +15%.>Amazon Champion: When attacking and entering battle, ATK +30% and have a 75% chance to reduce the target's DEF by 20%. Lasts 1 turn.>Steel Wing Warrior: When attacking, soldier ATK +30%. When ranged attacked, soldier DEF and MDEF +30%.>Dragon Trooper: For every block moved before attacking, soldier ATK +6%, up to 30%, and damage taken -6%, up to 30%. After being attacked and taking damage, unit movement +2. Lasts 1 turn.So presuming on which effects persist after death or at worst whatever I can use for the time these soldiers are alive, the best one to use would be Berserker or Dragon Trooper?
>>1165367Troop effects generally only affect troops. When there's an exception, it's commonly written down or if it applies a buff/debuff then obviously it affects both. Dragon trooper's mobility on hit still applies even after he transforms, but usually in Apex whenever Oboro goes in it's usually not right at the start and you definitely don't want to purposefully place him into an aoe anyways. So the smaller arena means he usually has enough movement to get around already. It's usually steel wing because of their stats against ranged units, and if the opponent is high on cavs instead, you could possibly use dark/heavy centurions. Honestly SWW are pretty futile anyways, since he isn't immune to TStar and will pretty much get bopped by any mage at full, but if not it'll help him live which is better than +2 move.
>>1165208Haha, yeah i wish
Is this game even about langrisser anymore? Just seems a generic chink gacha now...
>>1165641Original Lang 4&5 already realised droning on and on about bad sword vs good sword will get stale soon and went places, so i wouldn't even mind that IF the niggers at least tried keeping the 90s\Urushihara style fantasy and not whatever the hell is goiing on right now
>>1165641Where else is there to go? I suppose they could have done a part 3 without all the OCs/Gelpias and instead kept it to Tensei+Moon Dwellers, but then they would hardly be able to release 2 characters a month without going into completely irrelevant side character status. And yes, Act 3 is just basically ripping off Genshin sprinkled in with the Ark and whatever Virash's new tower thing is called. Chaos/Lushiris were hardly relevant in Act 2 anyways and like the other poster pointed out, you can only do one dimensional villains like Bozel for so long. They also need to seriously think about what's going to happen after Act 3 because unless we start releasing alts galore, they've pretty much squeezed the original material dry. Just what happens when you make an ongoing game off a dead IP.
wandering duelist is pretty fun in apex, sacrifice a tank or off tank to bait in wetham or zerida then do 2 hits and kill them + 2 random enemies with her talent
Ok, fuck phoenix 70, I'm tired of it.
>>1165641Transcender should have won against Lushiris and Chaos
Does anyone post global DE laws and what not? Someone in my JP guild was looking for info from global.
>>1165921You can probably find pics or a video of the capital, which is the only one that matters really.
>>1165166>10milI had like 300m before Ragnarok 2 released from phoning it in since I didn't need to invest in anything else and boy did that gold disappear real fast.
>>1165990>ragnarok 2has there been 1 actually positive contribution that piece if "content" gabe to the game
>>1166047I would say motivation and a use case for up to 32 units is a positive contribution. Simply requiring more units is certainly closer to horizontal progression and better than just releasing harder maps. I think people discussed this on release, but the reinforcement mechanic is honest to god one of the best mechanics I've seen in an SRPG. It could have tweaks here and there such as pairing up 2 units instead of your entire team with backup, not forcing redeploys from a fixed position, and having skills+debuffs decrease in full turns might be sort of op if not for godfalls also being op to compensate, but being able to swap units and the layer of depth it adds is great.The way the upgrades were handled, were probably neutral or net negative if you discount the fact that any ongoing game needs progression. For one, the cap is far too low with the rate at which they release covenants. This makes the moonbreaker things effectively useless not even a year into it's release. On one hand, it's a positive for including newer players, especially since the balance for the first 2 is set for those players, and the large amount of maps with low cap means there's no need to clear everything. On the other hand, there's no motivation to try and clear the harder maps without cheese if you can clear the first two and max in a year anyways. Then the upgrade system itself is pretty garbo, because rng, and because it's bad rng unlike class enchants. Only 1 level of percentages, and it's near impossible to max or get close to max. Rolls from only 1 source dripfed on a weekly basis. Then with the 3rd level enchants, you specialize people even more into certain roles, such as having to choose between aoe or crit, ranged or magic, etc. with the difficulty of changing them means even less variety in Apex if you want to min max.
Should I shard florentia right away, even if I don't have an empire buffer yet?
>>1166320Florentia is still pretty useful in PvE with unlimited act agains as long as you can kill enough enemies per turn. If you want to run her in JB she'd have to be 5* so she can act again if you're player 1, but otherwise the star level doesn't matter much until you hit higher level challenge stuff where she needs to survive big AoEs. So if you have someone else you want to shard, there's not a big hurry.
>>1166320You have Lance.:)Post your characters.
>>1166328Right now I mainly run princess and glory.
>>1166329You have 7 GoF for launch units, you might as well use it for the speed it gives. Bozel/Elwin/Light of Genesis for that last 1 shard, assuming normal days. Of course given you mainly like Princess & it's still double GoF week try Shelfaniel/Yulia/Christiane/LoG/Lucretia/Florentia or any bonds needed. Yulia, Lucretia, and Light of Genesis are all useful in challenges at worst and the latter 2 are obviously busted. Christiane is still core for Princess, and Shelfaniel's usage while limited is extremely consistent and a relief for DE and events here or there, like the current tower defense event in fact. And she needs her maxed star level and 3C for that, even more than her unique or really even strong equipment.As for Florentia remember she's not just Empire (Bernhardt, Rosenciel, Leon), she's also Tensei (Ares, Hilda) and Strategist (Grensiel, Altemeuller, Lanford). And while there are a few characters outside of your image, you have at least 2 of that last faction I can see and you seem to want to use ice girl. So there's a use for Florentia even at low star level for you.
>>1166320She starts working at 4 stars with her 3C, so i'd say get her at least there and then sort your priorities
>Protagonist: Matthew, Loviner>Glory: Grenier, Ledin, Elwin (x2)>Origins: Freya (x2), Dieharte, Jugler>Princess: Luna, Shelfaniel, Christiane>Empire: Lance, Leon, Bernhardt (x2), Rozenciel>Strategist: Altemuller, Lanford, Grenshiel>Dark: Bozel, Licorice>Meteor: Zerida, Epsilon>Yeless: Landius, Sigma>Mythic: Gizarof, Tree Sage>Rebirth: Ares, Hilda>Time: Angelica, Joshua, Yusuke, AwakenerSo every faction but Glory, Origin, Princess, Empire, Strategy, and Time need another buffer. Especially Dark & Mythic.
Yyee
I really appreciate the auto burger use but got I wish you could convert salads to burgers, or just make burgers instead of the 25 stam salads. Can't keep them above 0.
>one squad leader didn't turn off auto naviWelp looks like my guild won't be fighting for third place this time.
They seem to be learning.
>Got Ares, Licorice and Florentia from wishlist bannerFinally I have some of these Tensei niggers that kept tons of my bonds locked
>>1168047>off bannered by luna shardsbiggest insult possible, if the spacetime essence shit wasn't maximum money grubbing shit it'd be ok but a 6 off banner is really the worst thing you can roll
>>1168047I've got myself Omega, Lambda (for Omega) and Azusa (for Grenshiel) from it. Very happy with it.
>>1168304>AzusaI have bad news for you.
>>1167818
>>1168314?
>>1168324She's on a destiny next month.
>>1168351Oh, that. June isn't the next month and i have no one from that banner anyway. Besides, i pulled her anyway, hardly a bad news. I made my third banner to be Azusa\Mu specifically to prepare for that banner if the Wish would cuck me but everything went better than expected.
>Virash/NuVirash/Mystery Knight moved up a week>when the collab is still either on time next month or moved to much laterWeird, what other banner will they move up if any?
>>1165641Was it ever? It's not like the original devs were working on it, it was always chink fanfiction.
How's our sister game doing? My guild leader says he plays it but Langrisser is the better game which I found amusing.
>>1169049Sister game? I can't tell if you're talking about feh, kalpa, legeclo, or archeland.
>>1169129feh and legeclo aren't from the same company , which i imagine is what he means
>start playing again>there was a forgotten realm event with an actually useful building i missedfuck
>>1169149If he means Archeland, it remains to be seen, as obviously it's KR only, but it certainly isn't the hit they really hoped it was going to be. The dev costs were almost certainly higher than Lang. Gameplay wise, Lang undoubtably has more depth which imo makes it better. Graphics depends on preferences, but Archeland has more mass appeal. Story wise I'm biased towards Lang, but it's not like I've read the Archeland story. Translation seems to be not great, and I don't expect it to be good for global either. They imported the gacha from Genshin, but kept the release schedule of Lang/Kalpa, and the game was very stingy on launch, compared to Lang which is desu one of the more f2p friendly games if you've been playing a while.In revenue, Archeland did $5m on launch month for KR, compared to Lang which did $12m. Lang did like $45m the first half year in KR, even more than JP at $23m, which had a similar launch to Archeland at $5-$6m, but a lot more staying power which was unexpected and might have influenced them releasing KR first, and it seems like Archeland is going to do $15-$16m. CN isn't even going to be a contest since Lang was a huge hit on release. JP/GL, Archeland might do better than Lang but it's really going to depend on the localization polish and whether or not they don't try to greed it out from the start. The same release state as KR would probably sink the game in Global right from the start.
How does your server look? First and second place here literally haven't changed since the beginning.
>>1168299Fuck that is awful man, especially on a wishlist banner. I was pissed about getting a Kertesz off-banner but at least I didn't have him
>>1169582Judging by her expression, she needs help aborting it
Why does no one use mage Light of Genesis/Lucretia, especially the former that has 30 more base INT. Lightbringer isn't -that- prevalent in my experience, in either apex or PvE.
>>1170937Lightbringer, plus you can use GoEL in some situations. She's the most used tank in Apex currently, at least at higher levels. Also the very small bonus of -10% damage recieved when 100% HP on their heart bonds, but it's nothing compared to the other 2 reasons.
I finally have a maxed copy of this damn thing. Neat enough for some content.7th copy of th
>>1171715stop eating my image
Is it safe to buy some packs or not? I don't want the game to close tomorrow.
>>1171975It should last another year or 2 at least easily. After that who the fuck knows since a lot of changes desired for a long time still aren't in-game and they're being lazier with character kits (oh look another anti guard assassin! oh look she's Dark/Mythic, an underrepresented pair! with a third faction, fuck you Bozel! and it's Meteor, fuck you Omega! oh right that's straight up cloning the factions of Zerida while just being her but better in every way except for conditional mov boost, so fuck her too!).
I've got about 600+ joysticks from finishing current battleground achievements and having some on me before that and looking at my options on how to waste them.I'm definitely buying Oboros' exclusive and then i'm looking at either:>buy 3 more for whoever i like>SP someoneI've already SP'd Cherie, Freya, Grenier and Elwin, so>LedinLooks worthless, i have pretty much every non-collab tank outside Landius and Alpha and he's lower than Alpha in my book because at least she covers Dark>HeinHe looks fun and quirky but not practical>LewinProbably strongest contender, the only problem is Origins feel fairly saturated with strong units already and Glory are "fuck off we're full" tier>LanaSeems outdated and useless, and her SP skin is an abomination. How do you go from top tier Dark Princess to... that?>SabraHer JP name just completely escaped my disfunctional brain, but anyway, runner-up to Lewin>wait for LeonLooks whateverI don't PvP. What would you do?
>>1172052I will hoard very hard for Kuro and Shining collab
>>1172245If you're not looking to get SP Lana, then Lewin is your 2nd best bet. Of course, you don't need it just to use his 3c when needed, he's just weaker overall without.You can always just buy Oboro and save the rest; waiting to see the next SP, or casting skills for a favorite is something to think on too.
>>1172245Save it up. I’m sitting on 5k controllers because I have no clue who to build, but one say when they release SSP 7* for the cost of 5k controllers I’ll be ready.
>>1170937It is fun catching people by surprise with Scepter Lucrecia and her 5 range desu
>>1172245SP Lana is still pretty damn good really, you don't get the ST range of Luc/LoG/Beck etc but she's probably the best AOE mage, or close. Solid though not exceptional improvement for PvE. Aside from that then yeah SP Lewin is a great PvE unit and does fill that lancer Glory/Origins niche which is often empty and can solo infinite non-magic mooks. I have actually found SP Ledin pretty nice for some stages and bosses, but as you say he's not the best nowadays, little point if you have a trained Hilda. As the other anon says probably save them or maybe consult the PvE equipment guide for how useful certain unique gear is.
You can only post this once a year.I'll get it right next year, it was busy today.
>>1172245I have SP'd Lana, Narm and Hein and can say that they all perform quite well in PVE (Hein slightly less so) and I don't regret spending the controllers on any of them. But unless you're drowning in controllers, the question you should be asking you is which factions benefit the most from having a previously meh or shit character be turned into something good or at least usable. In that sense, Ledin, Hein and Leon are pretty irrelevant since their faction already have access to many good PVE character which fill their roles. Lewin can work as a self-sufficient Elwin-type character for Origins which can be a helpful niche, but if you feel your Origins team is already saturated, you can certainly work without one. Hein is part of Empire, Glory and Princess which are all pretty much drowning in godly PVE units already.Lana is a good single target unit for Dark Reincarnation and has the fairly rare trait of being a holy unit in that faction (the few others that are generally aren't too stellar offensively or PVE wise in general). but provides little unique value to Princess Alliance.Lastly, Narm is a good PVE unit in Meteor Strike which is probably the faction with the single worst PVE performance, so having her available definitely helps. She is also somewhat unique as an Archer in Princess Alliance, but that's a fairly niche role, and both Princess and Glory are already saturated with good PVE units. All in all, I'd say Narm/Sabra and Lana provide the most unique value to at least some their factions in PVE when SP'd.
They really should drop the crystal cost to hearts and skins to 2k if that much, and that's accounting for sunk costers. Never sat right what should be entirely free things being locked behind resources tied to the gacha.
Do you guys play Legend of Clover? It's very similar in everything to Larngrisser, but also a way easier to grind.
>>1173389Very good analysis, thank you.Yes, Meteor was the faction i struggled most with, followed by Dark.>>1172306>>1172874>>1173389A bit surprised by this much Lana support.She would probably use the 1 Law of Creation i lucked out on the best (LoG currently uses it) but the biggest problem with specifically my Lana is that she's 3* unbuilt untouched and naked and i have my hands full with sharding for what feels like probably up until fucking EoSGuess i'll sit on my joysticks some more, it's not like they're asking for food anyway>>1172616>zlong fools everyone with another "it's totally gonna fix old\bad characters this time" mechanic only to buff strong characters and piss all over weak\bad\old ones for fifth time
>>1173791>She would probably use the 1 Law of Creation i lucked out on the best (LoG currently uses it) but the biggest problem with specifically my Lana is that she's 3* unbuilt untouched and naked and i have my hands full with sharding for what feels like probably up until fucking EoSHer and LoG are the only ones that really make use of it at all currently, since basically every other ST mage only targets 1 weakness, maybe 2 if class strength counts for holy characters. LoG obviously targets everything, and Lana has 4 weaknesses in her 3c. As for shards, she's a launch unit with 7 GoF so you should take advantage if you were going to build her. Although what are you currently sharding, Lana is good but I wouldn't push her over other important launch units or more recent OP shit.>>zlong fools everyone with another "it's totally gonna fix old\bad characters this time" mechanic only to buff strong characters and piss all over weak\bad\old ones for fifth timeThis is me with casting skills, especially with how they pissed on Lanford's grave twice.
>>1173431There was a time I would probably agree when they were giving out free skins pretty often, but seeing as that rate dropped down to zero, most likely due to us getting free skin tickets starting 2nd anniversary, they most likely want to keep lotto as the alternative pay for skins mechanic now. As for SP, Matthew probably should've been free, but 4k crystals for what's almost an entire revamp on a character is a huge bargain considering you probably already had them at 6*. When the mechanic was first released, people were honestly surprised that it only cost 4k. >>1173513I played JP for about a month to try it out since I was getting burned out. I think I wrote about my first impressions already too if you want to search the archive. If not the tl;dr was, most maps too simple and no depth, powercreep normal for a gacha but still way faster than lang and started to ramp up when they introduced the guild ab mode, rolling for troops is bad, slight differences in troop mechanics and balance between aoe and st, ui is much worse and clunkier (partially because it's a browser game), needing to star up both troops and units makes it even less f2p friendly. Positives are basically that it started off with secret realm and sweeps, you have basically infinite stamina, events are actually good and generous, and there's a refreshable equipment select without premium currency.
>>1173829>guild ancient beckoningchrist's brown balls
Why don't more people play Langrisser? It absolutely btfo of any other mobile strategy game I've tried. Is it due to the initial shitty advertising and going after FEH?
>>1174259Langrisser is a niche series, the game is probably not advertised well, it's hard, it's not newbie friendly, a lot of content is not suitable for all players, Zlong prefers to keep old players rather than attract new ones.
>>1174259I'm not sure too many new people would actually want to play when you tell them they need to grind for 1-2 years and ignore the urge to waifu roll for possibly even longer than that.
>>1174259-Obscure IP-Botched global launch-Insane grind-Heavy CompetitionThe gameplay/art/animation is great, thoughShame it's daily job
>>1174259SRPGs are extremely niche in general. FEH is less an SRPG and more a puzzle/collector game for people already invested into FE. Also, people did give it a try. The global launch being a mess and giving the game a reputation of being grindy and a time sink, which was fairly justified before sweeps, plus the comparative shitty quality of the translation even compared to the JP and KR ones, shouldn't be a slight on how successful the game was on launch in CN/JP/KR, and to this day in CN/KR.Another reality is that the game has been going on for 4.5 years now. There are so few games that maintain it's popularity and income that far into it's lifespan, and the games that do generally are far less f2p friendly than Lang or frankly, relics from the extremely early days of gacha who currently maintain popularity by virtue of having hit it huge and constantly collabing with popular anime/franchises or are a popular franchise themselves. Also mentioned already is the lack of new players, and more importantly lack of incentives for new players. You really, really, need an event to scream at people "this is the best time to start this game" because fomo and limited time events work, or else people marginally interested won't bother. Usually this would be an anniversary, but holy shit what are you doing when your anniversary probably had comparatively less goodies than Genshin of all games. Lang's event rewards are cheap compared to simple daily progression and it's freebie currency is given out over time rather than in short bursts. I guess another personal complaint is that Zlong is so, so cheap and haven't kept up with current trends in regards to live streaming. FGO, Genshin, Uma Musume, HBR, Blue Archive, hell even PAD and Monster Strike, have fun live streams for updates and content/mechanics to look forward to and build up hype. Instead our end game content and limited units are dropped as a text-post on discord and wechat except for anniversaries.
Speaking of "new" players, I haven't touched the game in years. How's the current state of it? Worth coming back at this point?
>>1174488What ruined the global launch?
>>1174972Better to use your old account than a new one but yes, it's still playable at this point unless you mean apex then get fucked.If you don't have Lucretia, save everything for her, especially if you have Maiya & Clotaire as she'll be back next month.You can post what you do have for other advice.
>>1174972Honestly, I don't recommend starting over or returning, the game has become even more of a job than it was at the beginning despite the sweep function.In detail:Aniki materials. Soldiers are an important part of the unit and cannot be neglected.Potions of experience. Given the amount of units needed in the endgame, potions are never enough.Equipments. Some gears make a difference, a lot of difference, even in PVE.SSR Keys. At some point units without ATK and/or DEF bonds are useless.Eternal temple materials. They are used both to upgrade the heart bond and to unlock the 3c.Way of the law. New upgrade system, more friendly than aniki, but requires a lot of resources.Covenants. This is more a matter of time than anything, the sooner you unlock them and the sooner you start upgrading them.Gold. Not enough, too much stuff to upgrade and too high costs.
>>1174972It's the same as always except more content to do/grind. Unfortunately unlike other games, leaving for some time doesn't mean you get a stack of free stuff in your gift box, so it'll effectively be right where you left off except with more heroes. The largest pieces of content added that would be relevant for newer players is the farmville simulator, castings and covenants. For overall, it's SP classes and Ragnarok. Clearing Dragons, ET, Story, Time Rifts, and challenges is still the main bulk of the game. If you hit endgame back then, I would give the Covenants and Ragnarok stages a try. Then we have a few rotating events like Battlegrounds/Voyage/Fair Arena/Autochess/Dawnlight Bastion. Or basically challenges/roguelike/non p2w arena/meme mode/tower defense.
>>1175255>Potions of experience. Given the amount of units needed in the endgame, potions are never enough.Come on, everything else is an actual bottleneck, but this is ridiculous. By the time you even start doing 70 exp pots you have more than enough to level whoever you want.
>>1175257>Unfortunately unlike other games, leaving for some time doesn't mean you get a stack of free stuff in your gift box,Indeed, you can pay for those packs! :)
People here really forget that a level 65 Thor (the fastest possible one) is heavily timegated and that assumes the best units built (so imagine being a Rozalia/Lucretia/NeoFlorentia-let)
They should just add growlanser characters at this point
>>1175570Wouldn't they have to work out a deal with Atlus for that
>>1175570No, please don't let them touch Growlanser, if they really need new units, they can use Elthlead trilogy or Langrisser Millennium
>>1175538Been doing mine every week trying to get one.
>>1175634Maybe that MMO that never came to be as well.
>>1175634Somebody should, I loved Growlanser.
>>1175570Still plenty of actual Langrisser units to add, but they're allergic to the older games now for some reason. Could just release Taylor and Hawking as SSR
>>1175775Everyone knows why they're allergic. Ricky and Mcclaine were the worst performing banner and the only reason they got added was because of Mcclaine's story relevance. Taylor and Hawking might as well be throwing money into the wind. They could release them as SRs since the art and sprites are already there anyways but any useless SR is just going to be pointless and any useful one they could just toss the kit onto an SSR OC instead.
>>1175667I like Growlanser too and that's why I say Zlong better not touch it. Growlanser is a series aimed at both male and female audiences and as demonstrated with LM, Zlong is unable to satisfy both types since we still don't even have confessions (perhaps only of friendship if nothing else) for male units. I honestly prefer Growlanser to remain a forgotten series, the gameplay is particular and I don't know if it would work nowadays and if I'm nostalgic I replay the five games available in the west in the hope that someone will translate the first one too.
>>1175255>potions are never enoughthey really aren't you max out most heroes by your first year and then just build up a mass of potions
>>1175775>Taylor and Hawking as SSRI can already hear all the chinksect shrieking and bitching about "ugly men" all the way from space and time here.>no Baldarov>still no Borz even though he was in the trailer
>>1175779Growlanser IV was pure kino and the fact that nothing like it has been made since pains me every day
>>1175778>Ricky and Mcclaine were the worst performing bannerNumbers, especially with garbage like Rainforce/Betty? I don't think it's unlikely, especially with chink not-otaku insect behavior, but McClaine is still pretty good.
>>1175538>>1175636I got one every week for the past three weeks. Who even uses it? Aside from if you want to bring Luna to apex for some reason she's basically the only one that doesn't use Last Rites.
Is there any hope for this game?
>>1175778I think you have this backwards, least last I remember looking at that one site everyone uses for gacha. They had a decent bump, probably thanks to everyone being able to tell McClaine was broken.
>>1176199McClaine can use it, idk if it’s optimal though when he has access to Last Rites too.
>>1176239
>>1176298I was talking about the other one where for some reason the arrows going down are in green which is bad while the arrows going up are red which is supposed to mean good.
>>1175909>still no Borz even though he was in the trailerWait he was? In this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkmBBnwUl9EI didn't see him
>>1176478https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3DSlR2XnBs0:47 Amadeus, Bortz, maybe Queen Caconsis or someone related to the Caconsis royal family, Joa and Conny
>>1176349That's the monthly one. The only reason you saw an up arrow on Ricky/Mcclaine which was in June, was because Gintama was released on the last day.
How are Elaine, Agnes and Van?
How are we feeling about the epic collab bros?
>>1176662Easy skip to save up for The Awakened next month. I guess if you're heavy into PVP, it might be worth pulling for if you're a whale or drowning in tickets for some reason.
>>1176662I'm going to enjoy using Agnes to cheese any PvE boss that can't act again or deal damage after battle. Looking forward to building my 4th self act-again dps too I guess.
>>1176662This is the only thing that slightly interests me, and I might still skip.
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=nOHQI8g-xC0I never see vids of PvE content, maybe that'll change with the global release.
Well it only took them 4 years to add in a tutorial for faction buffs and a faction buffer select. Nice touch but did it really need to wait this long?
>>1178655It's zlong, it's amazing it happened at all.
>>1178655Maybe Zlong is run by turtles.
Meet the new hero, /lang/!Her name is Iris and she's an unicorn girl.
>>1178997
>>1178997A FUCKING HORSE
>>1178997>>1179002
>>1178997uhhwhat game is that?
>>1179028You don't know anon!? Langrisser Mobile focuses on monster girls now. This EoL skin belongs to Nymph, the mermaid btw.
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=jH0j8SGVdOEOathsworn(up to LeoBeck/Theon), L4/L5 wish banner, & Alustriel/Towa/Ashemar destiny.
>>1178997Is this even Langrisser anymore?
>>1178997>>1179039Finally. I was getting tired of these boring human knights and their dumb mages.
>>1176662I played Kuro no Kiseki so I want to get Elaine so bad but only got Agnes. Wish they could have added Shizuka and adult Renne
>>1179512I'll take teen Renne
>>1178997Are we getting Shining Force OCs now? I'll take a Kokichi expy if so. Maybe a Domingo just to see how they'll handle that instead.
>>1179798dark/mythic/princess
>>1180028>dark/mythic>princess
>>1179798I really wonder just how they're going to make this bitch worth rolling with 8 range Nu-Lucretia, Awakener's pseudo-ST AoE, or even the new bitch that's an aquatic healer with short cds.
>>1179532Ok
>>1178997>>1179002>>1179016yes, YES!>>1179039hmoafbros, we're eating good this year
>>1180260Are you stupid troll?
Looks nice, shame I'm never getting it.
>>1180028>>1180038Actually it's Origin/Legends/Mythical.>>1178997Meteor/Legends/Mythical.Find previews here, you'll obviously need a translator if you don't speak chink:https://mp.weixin.qq.com/mp/appmsgalbum?__biz=MjM5NzYwNTM5Mw==&action=getalbum&album_id=1503066335596068865&scene=173&from_msgid=2247626773&from_itemidx=1&count=3&nolastread=1#wechat_redirect
>am a team leader this de>have no idea what i'm doing and we've not even started battle yet
>buy accessory from DE shop with leftovers before DE starts>it's useless shitThis concludes yet another one as pointless fucking timewasting garbage, thanks for nothing
If I start right now can I gather enough rolls to pity the trails characters?
>>1180730The banner will last for a month and the game is pretty generous, you'll absolutely get enough for a pity within a month as a newcomer i think.Plus you get Van for free, you just have to participate in the event.
>>1180610If you're ranking turn off the auto navigate thing and plan which team is going to move where, then move when necessary. If not I imagine you just don't do anything.
>>1180610Go to DE - Strategic Planning then tap on your card then tap on formation boost - make sure you squad is betting boosted by factions you guys have - if not sure just making sure that one of your boosted factions isn't time would probably be safe if squad communication isn't a thing.
>>1180730If you have time to play everyday and drop 40 crystals on stamina, you'll hit pity around 2-3 times. Remember that here pity only guarantees you an SSR though, not a certain unit. Also hitting pity here is more like a ~30% of the time sort of thing unlike Genshin where it's more likely than not you'll hit soft pity. It's also a lot of playing, not just autobattling. You have to do the map events, time rifts, and try to go through the game optimally.
Let's be honest here, there's also "rerolling" on different servers. If he's counting on getting these 2 characters to get a good start, he might as well consider that option, especially as servers don't mean much of anything to newbies nowadays. Although I feel he should really just build up resources and do his rolling in a week for obvious reasons.
>>1180527Looks absolutely broken on assassins, especially Lostam, when he wanted to go for double assassination attempts before he had to give up 3C. Now he can just get it for free potentially.
>>1180926The downside is losing out on twilight star which means no more sniping last rites and shrine maidens. I doubt this is going to be run over that, which means it's relegated to PvE.
>>1180731>>1180844Yeah I don't mind playing a lot, I was just worried it was something like 1 week banner and you need 1 month's worth of currency to hit pity.
>>1181045A collab basically takes the place of what would be the normal banner for the entire month (well 27~ days). You just don't have what is the most common "safety net" for collab units in this game unlike normal units. That being destinies, which are basically guarantees for a rate up SSR on that banner as long as you roll one. That's separate from, or technically in combination with the max 100 roll pity in that case.If you're playing daily, you should manage a fair few amount of rolls in that time, and the collab is only 3 days old. Don't be afraid to ask for any other advice, this thread is slow but you'll get an answer sooner or later.
>>1180942Everyone doing tank push in any serious capacity we’re running full holy units or at the very least Glory of the World on their characters with Shrine Maidens, so twilight star is really just for Last Rites. Against Shrine Maidens assassins just try to two tap them, which this accessory makes stupidly easy.
>>1181045If you're still here, pick Tiaris and 1 of Elwin or Bozel for your beginner banner summon (the one with 9 characters on it) when starting. You can roll it after spending on the collab if/when you get what you want but it's good to note for the future. Between Elwin and Bozel, Elwin is generally more helpful for newbies, but since you're specifically trying to get Elaine she can contribute his main job of a self healing bruiser and doesn't need an SSR for her bonds (Liana for him, another character you should be getting but don't worry about that for a while). Thus Bozel would be a better pick but either is still fine.
>Ledin>Bernhardt>Shelfaniel>Landius>Dieharte>Altemueller>the last 2 are the only ones not 6*Guess I'll coinflip. Also fuck you for pic related I'm still missing Insidious Pendant.
Shit damn boys, looks like Wikigrisser just got updated and is now almost up to date with the CN stuff. Some stuff from the Nymph/Tatalia patch is missing, but other than that, everything seems to be there. Never thought I'd see the day.
>Arc Breaker>107 ATK/43 SKL>ATK +10%, +10% AoE damageDefinitely prepping for a future release since none of the existing characters use it well, sans Suzette who is both trash and only wants her unique.
>Florentia got a new casting skill>It's just below broken tierWow, shill unit from shill game gets a great upgrade she didn't even need, who could have seen this coming...
>>1182769It's nothing special, in PVP there are people who use her with clock and in PVE it doesn't make all this difference, there are always three rounds of CD left. In DE the only way to take advantage of the new passive is to use Grenshiel but usually Flo is used with other units in this mode. If we really want to talk about a strong unity that becomes even stronger, let's talk about Rozenciel and her EE.
Giz is pretty darn good, but then you remember buffing his strengths does jack shit since those are useless in basically every scenario.
>>1183230I disagree, in a vaccuum absolutely. +10 to everything is no slouch. But for Giz specifically isn't that big as much as help he needed a minimum of. On top of the fact that ultimate construct on death is nothing in PvE, and in PvP you don't want deaths to begin with. Still, I can actually see a good regular PvE meme with him, so I might build him up.
It's pointless to leave a guild in the middle of DE isn't it.
>>1183230Gizarof's inscription is fucking shit. Everything but INT and maybe DEF for the occassional physical AOE/Assassin is irrelevant for himself, the construct isn't going to be saved by 10% more stats because it still takes several turns of buffing and using his 3C to become even usable for anything but baiting the AI in PVE, and getting a slightly better effect on death is complete garbage for PVE and isn't going to make him relevant for PVP (any more than he already is as a desperation FB provider for Mythical).Honestly, everyone except for Florentia got absolutely fucked with these inscriptions. Giz's is just improved death 2.0, Feraquea gets a pathetically weak conditional effect on her 3C and Listell just got a fig leaf of an inscription to cover the fact that they are content with leavin her in her role as a shutdown button for mid-tier obnoxious AI arena defense teams.
>>1183390You're just going to be locked out of the current DE iteration, I think. Better to stick with your guild and grab what you can, even if it's shit.
>>1183390Yes. You can't join a guild for some time after leaving, and you're probably cucked out of DE if joining in the middle of it
Opinions about Van? He needs 6* or you can leave him at 5*
>>11841976* is only needed on units who have utility locked behind 6* or % activation talents to lessen rng. If it's just a numbers boost, then it's literally just whatever star you want to leave them at. Van just loses 6% all stats and 6% damage restoration on max stacks, plus the base stats from 6* which is about ~10% attack give or take, and you're rarely going to be max stacks on a non-boss enemy anyways since the stacks are after battle. The 40% damage and cd reset is already built into his 3c instead.
>>1184197You'll likely eventually want to do it but it is fairly expensive in comparison to old units that would go from SR to SSR ( Parn for example) since you only need to do their GoFs once for the freebies then just use the otherwise useless floating realm shards. But you can put it off as much as you want. Hell, the actual limiteds (Elaine and next month Awakener) don't want the 6* that much.
>>1184221>>1184227Good to know, thanks.
Guys I need tips for making a stronger AI arena offensive team. Atm I have Bernhardt (BB aoe), Bozel, Lucrecia, Hilda and Imelda. All are 8k or 9k+ except Imelda who I would replace but her aoe atk buff for avoiding silence + fixed dmg immunity is pretty helpful. Still, I only win like 70% of the time, and have trouble with teams feat. Jugler and Rozenciel. Is Listell a good pick?
>>1185097Do you have only those units or others? Do you play the arena in manual or in auto?When you're against Jugler, you block his healing ability (for example with Bernie's sword dance), or you defeat Jugler first (I don't recommend it since it's not always easy to oneshot him), or you use Listell in the hope that the enemy defense doesn't use Heart of Gaia.I would replace Imelda with Leticia (she doesn't need to be built that much) who has sprint and her talent increases movement by 1.If there's one important thing in the arena it's silence, if you can't silence the healers and the DPS the chances of winning unfortunately decrease.
>>1185097I swapped to st rush instead of aoe mainly because of Gaia Jugler stopping Sakura's heal reverse, the addition of Gintoki often means he can solo an entire team if they have Sage+WIler meaning I would have to field either a tile remover like Helena to get follow-up or use another slot for a non-flying/cav aoe unit when Leticia already needs to take 1 slot, and the increase in the amount of Betty's sometimes. With st rush instead, you don't need a slot for Leticia, and you run Ares instead who guarantees at least 2 kills. The only outlier situation is if your Ares dies to a counter hit/Betty before teleporting the enemies. Other than that, even if they run L shape with Sage+Wiler, I swap in Helena to go second to tile remove, and the rest is a combination of Elwin/Cherie/Gintoki, with Rozalia replacing Helena if they don't have sage, but instead have 2 tanks + Rozel/Gin/Bozel/Elwin.
>>1185097I highly doubt this will be of much help since my server has a lot of easy auto wins, but I run Leticia/Sakura/Bozel/Mystery Knight/Ares sometimes replaced with Wehttam if their formation will fuck with Ares AI. If the map is the boat and Jugler is there then Listell comes out instead of Sakura, Rachel if no Jugler.
>>1185307Good tips from you guys! Sadly I wasn't able to summon Rozalia, Helena and Ares until pretty recently but I do have a lot of PvE powerhouses. Forgot to mention but this is for auto arena too. Sage is definitely a big problem too, and I lack strong tile changers. I think I'll try Leticia and leave off the dark faction buff for early aoe.
>>1185715what, another torturous and insufferable gamemode like that tower defense trash?please no
>>1185736But I actually like the tower defense mode...
>>1185736Better than Ragnarok.
>wasted 3 Dragon sweeps because I thought I was hitting the Nightmare sweep but instead it was the Lvl. 45 oneAaaaaaaaaaah
>>1186292>sweeping dragons instead of getting friend parties bfor the highest drop rateyour loss buddy
>>1186547Kinda nice for buffing Omega or Elaine desu
Speaking of Omega, did anyone ever test if Crystal Stinger and his Inscription passive stack?Also a question for those with Light of Genesis, does her range increase affect Teleport's "final" range, aka where you send someone or just the initial selection?
>>1187402Only initial targeting, teleport itself always has the same 7(?) blocks around the targetStill sharding my Omega i got recently but i imagine it's a MASSIVE powerboost if he can drop Ullr (-10%) and and use 1.3 skill with 40% def ignore. He can't mill and turns to regular assassin setup-unload 2-turn routine as a tradeoff but damn. Sounds scary
>>1185715>>1185736Just looks like Time Rift.>>1185780I don't
>>1187253oh nicewhat does it do?
>>118758410% INT and 50% chance to silence passives after in battle ST. Would be fine in PvE if passive immunity wasn't a thing they enjoyed slapping on bosses, on top of it being chance based. And the same chance as Pale Staff actually, which might have that debuff in its pool but don't count me on that.
>done with farming all the shop currency, even for challenge bonuses>not sure if i can do the challenges anywaysa-at least i'll stop being a lucretia-let soon!
>>1188939The first two are always free. Third has enemies pretty spread out so it should be alright if you have fliers/terrain masters. Fourth is definitely a jump up, but you can also always hold the next wave and the time limit is generous. Fifth is for people who already know whether they can clear or not, although with the change to larger maps and more enemies instead of a big boss arena, alongside the unique mechanics like the tile changing and the machine thing this time around, it's getting easier stat wise.Also the largest buff you can give to yourself for these challenges is leveling your covenants. A maxed out Odin can practically one shot Betty's second stage, and even a decently leveled one shaving off 200-300k, is a huge boon when you can wait out the recharge.
>>1189024>odini'll get there by the end of the year maybe. my highest is thor in the mid 60s and i've unlocked the 3rd one last week so that's pretty low level
>>1189157Thor is also great, but fixed damage during battle is just way more niche than high movement physical damage. He can shave off 400k also and I guess synergizes well with the deletion mechanic, but you need those Twilight Stars/Battlegarbs/Ragnarok or Towa to stack him up. His immobilize used to be amazing since it ignores immunity, but with larger maps and more enemies it's slightly less useful.So with a mid 60s Thor I'd say you can clear the 3rd challenge and probably 4th depending on your other progression with no buffs. If you care to learn the mechanics maybe you could do the 5th too, but since you can't speedrun it, it's going to be like hours of learning and retrying for 3 tickets.
2023labordayUBRYDGMPW
>>1189323Says it already expired
Reminder to check and work on your Spriggan commissions, they're actually fairer than most events of this caliber (no forced gacha rolls) but most might forget to do "give out likes".
>>1178997Here's Iris EoL skin.
>>1190361And this one belongs to Tourmilk who was mentioned here:>>1179798
>>1190363lmao
The new shield-until-crit mechanic in the Tyre stages is really annoying, being able to inflict critical damage most of the time depends on the rng unless certain enchants and equip are used and also in this case the critical hit is not guaranteed. Currently only heaven sanction and Tyre AoE manage to break shields most of the time.
>>1190681This isn't going to make Lanford's inscription good, zlong.
>>1190361I shall buy currency in your game now
>>1190681Well it's certainly more rng than usual, but it's no more annoying than Thor's gimmick for fixed damage honestly. Tyre's aoe guarantees crits when entering battle, and triggering the aoe crits again and reapplies the debuff. Sure you could run a ton of fixed damage for Thor, but like you said, there's workarounds for crit too like sanctions or just general large aoes since usually your units skill is way higher than npc enemies.
How is Lang right now? Haven't played in awhile had a alright end game team
>>1191412>Haven't played in awhile had a alright end game teampost it
>>1191412post your team and specify "awhile" if possible.
>>1191438>>1191443Bullying is prohibited!I think I stopped when the Valkyria Chronicles collab came? Or Azusa was new.
>>1191506I presume you have Clotaire, so you can just roll the next destiny in 4~ days (Oboro!/Y.Jessica/RedMoonKing) and then do nothing but coast on very few destinies for a while unless you want collab units and Awakener immediately. Awakener being a Wettham style unit us guaranteed to return and hasn't made much impact on PvE, which is the only content you should care about at this point. Unless you do have him, im which case you have even less banners to roll on, NuZerida is an important get but she's on a rate up with Aka in a couple of months, abd given yours is 5*, you can't benefit from space time essences. So "enjoy" that when it comes.
Those are a lot of EoL skins....
>>1191506Do you have other SSR? Some of those units require rare bonds.Based on what you posted and considering current and upcoming bannersClotaire, Lucretia, Maiya: Lucretia is a must have and since you have Lico you can easily build her, without Autokrato you lose some damage though. Clotaire is a decent second prizeOboro, Young Jessica, King of the Red Moon: I'd skip this banner unless you want to try and summon in the next MU Azusa.Lana, Tiaris, Rachel: I don't know if you have Tiaris, if so I would try to summon her.Awakener: Skip her for now, you don't have the bonds and unless she has crazy stats, I don't think it's possible to complete the Awakening without them.
>>1191560NTA but Lucretia can complete her 1st Awakening without bond 5 purely by 4 range pot shots.Awakener's bigger issue is poor single target selection.
>>1191540>>1191560Oh I have a lot more, I forgot about bonds so I didn't capture them because they're mostly unbuild and dogshit lol. Here's all the SSRs I got, ignore the Wettham shards those don't count. Actually that might be why I stopped playing lol>>1191542Yeah I did use *that* didn't I... I think i have a few for heroes I dont have still
>>1191742Have you unlocked Thor and the other Covenants yet? With those units you shouldn't have much trouble completing way of the law which is a new upgrade system.Anyway...Clotaire, Lucretia, Maiya: Lucretia guaranteed in destiny is a rare thing, until today she has always been in rate-upOboro, Young Jessica, King of the Red Moon - skip it, red moon is not worth the costLana, Tiaris, Rachel - you have all three, so skip itAwakener: You don't have any bonds, I'd skip that for now.Wehttam: you have 45 shards, you have his bonds, try to summon himTiaris at 5*, better 6* if possibleLoG and Rozalia are both 3*, you have the bonds, give them some love, they are good units even at 5*
>>1191742For future focuses and rate ups.-You don't seem to have Autokrato4 for your guaranteed Lucretia, but you don't have to waste rolls on the 2 upcoming pick banners on him if you're trying to get more important or usable stuff, since he will get a rate up with Leo Beck, and a rate up is all the pick banner is.-You have a gauranteed Mu and Kaguya. Mu is just used for forest teleport utility & Kaguya is another long range mage for challenge content. I would say 1 ten roll in each banner is fine then fuck off. Hell I'd say the same for King of the Red Moon but he's just not good for any PvE utility and his casting skill is an insult. His only use would be to get you Wandering Duelist in the VD banner for collecting purposes but she's shit too.-Gauranteed Kertesz, operate under the same principle as previously mentioned focus banners, he's useful but not exceedingly so.-Gauranteed Lostham. You don't have Ashemar but you do have IBC, plus he's assassin Leon. overall underrated in terms of PvE usage but still very good. Be sure to get him.-Collabs are collabs, it's up to you.-I believe she's on the latest pick 2 banner so I could be wrong, but regardless if you can't find another time to roll her, NuZerida must be acquired here, although it is a rate up with Aka which might hurt since her shards likely won't be useful to you.-Patsyr/Werner Dime/Julian. You have none of them, summon. Patsyr is great for hard PvE, Werner Dime and Julian are bond units although the former can be of help in a specific Ragnarok Realms fight.-Gauranteed Bernhardt, drop a 10 roll and leave since while you'll want him eventually this destiny is sure to come back.-You have a coinflip on Towa & Ashemar which I would say is worth taking. The former is neat in the aforementioned RR and the latter is too as well as being a Lostham bond-Gauranteed Werner, try to get him with more than 1 ten roll if you can spare it but don't go hard if you can't.
>>1192090Hit limit, so CN will be getting a Rozalia/Emilia/Sissi focus. You have Sissi guaranteed so get her.
>>1191984I stopped using these too, but mostly because the people that can use them usually have their uniques in the helmet slot.
>>1191984I only have one on Omega. Luna's got hers replaced by her exclusive and I never bothered building any more.
Alright boys get your Landius off of the bench it's time for the new SP.
>>1194481They are just rumors. I don't know how much he could improve since Zlong doesn't deign to modify the 3c of the old tanks to update them to the modern ones.Honestly, I would prefer the next SP to be Almeda or some bench unit.
>>1194481It's probably Bernhardt since they're on an Empire binge, and after Leon it's clear they want to cycle through the units in the beginning banner sans the obviously meta healers.Landius would round off all OG protagonists but they could have and should have done that instead of Leon but here we are.>>1194559Almedha is possible since they obviously will make sure their trio that essentially are the main three of this "game" are playable in modern meta but I suspect they'll never touch another R or SR again now that ran through the popularity picks.
Since we're talking about SPs, here's my Bozel concept. Mostly just what I'd find fun to use as I already enjoy him.>3 flyer mov demon class>Talent: unit loses class disadvantage. every debuff on an enemy unit on the map he gets a passive undispellable buff in order of debuffs (1: 1 turn cd cut on all skills, 2: +2 AoE span increase, 3: when attacked in battle pushes the attacker 3 spaces back, 4: +4 Mov, 5: +15% to all stats except HP, 6: +0.6 fixed damage when dealing damage based off DEF). can inflict a random debuff when dealing damage, same list except increase mobility down by 1 turn and add "can't guard" for 2 turns.>new 1c. passive: immune to silence. when receiving damage from a debuffed enemy, damage reduced -5% per debuff up to 30%. active: pick between 1 of 6 debuffs (silence, buff block, passive disable, 30% mdef down, 30% skill down, cannot act again). the next turn all attacks will inflict the chosen debuff before dealing damage. 1 turn cd.>new 2c. command: all demon allied units gain 10% ATK/INT/DEF, can pass through enemies, and ignore 15% of DEF/MDEF when dealing damage. active: 3t cd, 3 range, 3 span. magic dmg, deal 0.3 AoE damage and inflict 2 random debuffs. afterwards can teleport to any on map area not within 2 blocks of a unit.>werewolves for soldiers i guessWhen his time comes I fully expect them to make him a boring mixed ST & AoE attacker with 4 range and the like ala every modern mage instead of playing to his strengths but at least I had a little fun with this. Go ahead and call it shit if you want, even come up with one of your own for someone you like to discuss.
>>1194928you should send this do Zlong
>>1194928passive is a nice idea when it comes to damage reduction, but choosing debuffs and the buffs he gets are way too powerful.
>>1193422Who you tryna flex on lil nigga?
>I got shota'dPlease tell me he's at least good
>>1195076?rolled on collab banner?and i presume leo beck and well....he gets better with his unique :|
>>1195333Every forge is at 2.4M except Bow & Sword at 3.6M, and this is my first SSR of the month.I'll take it, at least I have this fully uncapped now.
>>1195333Fuck forgot image.>rolled on collab banner?>and i presume leo beck and well....Yes and yes.He has +1 unit range so at least he's good at memeing PvE shit right? Right??
>>1195443>He has +1 unit range+2 if he's 6*:)>so at least he's good at memeing PvE shit right? Right??Well for starters with his many issues half of his talent (the fixed damage) has a very low HP req (14% at highest) meaning it's trash on fodder and while it might have been good on bosses let's be honest it doesn't trigger on the heavy majority of the fight when you'd need it. Now granted this is mitigated IF you get his 3c and use him to land an AoE on a target as setup. And THEN when your other allies go into battle he can proc the fixed damage due to a debuff he applies from only an AoE and IF they die he can gain 2% stats up to 5 times.His unique 1c is mainly only worth using in PvP since a huge damage mod only exists if the enemy has a revive, and his unique 2c is the core of his kit but can only be used 3 times, will get him killed if you're not careful since he loses 10% hp after every action if the buff is on someone, and is mostly useful in pvp. But you need it otherwise the 3c passive doesn't work. And said 3c active needs your enemy to be buffed in order to convert them(up to 2 buffs) to debuffs or it's just Earthquake level damage and nothing else.At least he's the only character other than Egbert to be able to summon bone archers, a 5 CD skill that you can't even clock!His only ST skills are dark reaper, fireball, and the aforementioned unique 1c that needs a revive on the enemy for 30% more damage.If you don't plan on investing star level and bonds, which I get since 1 is Theon and the other Nu-cretia aka rare shit fucking zlong, I guess you could slap together some passable clock enchant gear, and with Black Hole/Dark Reaper/choose between Seal or Fireball as your skills. And just use him to do weakening potshots at enemies. Like Heart Cleanse/Death Robes or Reaper's New Clothes or Tennyo's Robe/Charon or Soul Stealer Headdress/Beholder Eye to give him as many debuffs to throw at an enemy at once.It's... something.
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Yes!
>>1195560Ayo you tryna let a nigga hold some that gold?
>>1195571Most of that is probably going to vanish once Awakener and SP Leon come out.
>>1195642>probablyYeah, just bonds are around 4-5 millions.Equips are 1m+ a piece. Enchants have no ceiling and will bankrupt anything less than infinite money.
Imagine enchanting anything, I haven't even run goblins for ages.
>>1195673>>1195850class enchantsalso do goblins for your 9 tickets
I felt lucky after a week passed, and what do you know 110 rolls later and Polyal came. Damn shame I got Lugner at 60 but getting both banner characters in 110 rolls isn't something that I can complain about.On another note I haven't touched Ragnarok yet out of pure laziness. How much am I missing out on?
>>1196062Stat wise Ragnarok accounts for a pretty decent chunk of stats.
>>1196062I haven't touched Ragnarok either, you lose stats but you don't waste time, and as of right now, it doesn't seem like PVE challenges suffer from the lack of those stats.
>>1196062It doesn't really speed up Covenant leveling especially for newer players so ignore it all you want.
Is there currently updated layouts for the covenants? I'd imagine stuff like building some hp or def for Thor is dead now that other covenants actually specialize in that for instance.
>>1196925Layouts? If you mean the nodes from leveling them it doesn't matter because you max them out at 70 anyways. Just prioritize offense for all of them as you'll have to use different ones for Ragnarok even if not maxed.
>>1195850>don't run goblinsit's only 20 Stamina, anon
>Only 100 summons Am I safe or is it over?
>>119728673% to hit technically, but rates are rigged so. It's still like 50/50 to get her on the summons and if not 40% on pity.
>>1197286Pray to the RNGesus, there are players who summon SSR even with just one voucher.If you have one of the two bonds, possibly ATK but DEF is good enough, go for it, otherwise forget it, if you can't unlock the 3c Awakener it's not worth much.If you are interested in SP Leon, wait a week and first get Leon HD and then try to summon Awakener
they're making a new servers for newcomers it could be fun...
>>1197577It has a cool name too
>>1197321If he's got super strong gear and can cast her outright, he might be able to do it since she has 3 range out of the box. Her biggest issue is poor ST options if anything. Lucretia for example didn't just have 4 range for easy potshots, she also has Dark Reaper for emergency healing and Cleanse for dispels, even when Freeze Strike wasn't effective and that ignores you could cycle through them.
30 pulls. Also got a bonus at 20 with Kaguya
>>1195068>Only 7 Last RitesCute
>>1198048>meteor lostham
Zlong better stop giving mages exclusive helms!
Stockpiled like 70 vouchers and a ton of crystals>3 multis gets Sissi White (new) and Altemuller (6* dupe), 25 shards>Ilucia (new) on next pull>Nothing for like 6 multis>Get pic relatedBretty gud, straight to 4* 50/100 with those shards
>>1198327Interesting picture, anon.
>>1198327
>>11983304chan pic uploading shit as usual
>>1197762>poor ST options>casting for 3cHuh? She has fireball (and all 3 opponents on the 1st stage are infantry), lightning and her own dark reaper much like Adankelmos’. I just did her 3c on 3 stars with no casting, only class enchanting Int on helm, weapon and acc and no bonuses from the second class path, with equips borrowed from LoG (the only item of note is 15% Divinity, which is good i’m not arguing). She just oneshot everyone with a fireball
New heroes are coming soon to Langrisser Mobile!This is Roland.
>>1198476Here is our new waifu, Precia!
>>1198477
Just reached out lvl 60. I wanted to keep rolling for Elaine but the collab ended. Got the Awakening one instead. Is Welthan worth it or should I keep saving?
>>1198476>>1198477None of them are Bortz, i am pissed.>>1198498>Is Welthan worth itI'd say he's more useful in PvE than Yani2
>>1198498Do you have Zerida or Bozel, or one or both guaranteed on future destiny banners? If yes try to summon Wehttam, otherwise save resources for guaranteed units unless you are a whale or other similar animals.Remember well:"Always check which bonds you need before trying to summon a unit"it is in my opinion one of the main rules of the game that you must always keep in mind if you want to progress steadily.
>>1198327100 for 5 SSRs is pretty good. Better prepare to hit pity twice in a row now.>>1198498If you're 60 then you're pretty new. I would say not worth in. Yani2 probably wasn't too worth it either, but long range mages are more useful generally than another long range phys dps with a few upsides and cheeses. Focus more on the starting set of characters since they'll appear on destiny banners on a rotation and generally have each other's bonds. This means characters like Elwin/Leon/Cherie if you missed the beginner stuff/Yulia/Tiaris/Liana and friends. Alternatively if you clearly are a trails fan and want to use Van you can just use Awakened One as your faction buffer with Van as 2 dps, Agnes as your healer, and pick a tank from another faction.
>>1198634Wait, Yani's FB is on her 3c. I keep forgetting you have to wait till 70 to unlock them. If you want to use Van you'll have to pair him with Matthew, not a great idea, or roll for NuAres, not a great idea either or use Landius as your main tank until you unlock Awakened's 3c. She also probably won't hold very well into very endgame unless you get one of her bonds to unlock heart bond, but you're at least a year off.
PUPYCM3KYuse it asap
>>1198478Reminds me of Betty
>>1154154>Questions:>Does this game have voiced story in English?Yes, thru Act1, then they stopped. And the last three years of new hero's have no English voices at all. >Is the PVE in this game good enough to play around in?I kinda hate the pve. It used to be a genuine challenge and fun, but once you hit level 50, the challenge increases astronomically and all of the new pve content is literally just pure stat bloat. So its really difficult, but in an insanely un-fun way. Unless you can enjoy grinding down hitpoints on the basic trash mobs they send at you, its tedious. >PVP turn based sounds like a nightmare in terms of real time commitment per matchThe pvp had amazing potential and the time commitment wasn't bad (still isnt). Been playing since the first year when even a couple R heroes were viable. Was a lot of fun, but the last two years they've just gone full out power creep and its just about constantly chasing new heroes and grinding each new stat bloat content addition they add to the game.
Reminder if you've started playing or replaying the game in the last couple of days, grab up every Blue Dragon Knight code you can.
>>1155458In pve, for most content, any hero is good. Just pick a faction you like and make a team of 6 you like.
this looks really cool>her hyper detailed buttlol
I'm gonna say itRagnarok 5 is too easy
>Breeze in the middle
>>1199228even the devs know they made maps too huge nowadays
>>1199216Damn, that’d make a sick wallpaper.
The Legendary Gate this week is been kind of wasted since I don't really know who to build right now and I'm just sweeping random HeroesAny recomendation of fun characters to buildDisregard their Factions
>>1199428I don't know if they are fun, but I can recommend those that I consider useful.Mariandel, Adankelmo and Ashemar since they are three mages that can have 4 ranges. Mariandel is harder to use, Adankelmo is good for portals and Ashemar replaced YJess on my origin team even though she doesn't seem to hit as hard as other mages.Alustriel is one of the few archers even if she doesn't reach the levels of SP Narm, I use her at 5* in covenant with decent results.Agnes for Glow hammer which is quite a useful and low cd skill and she has an effective AoE skill against holy and mageFor more specific cases I recommendClotaire for fixed damage and Towa for fixed damage and immunity to fixed damage.Kagura for forbidden battleground in case you need protagonists and you don't have enough units in your factionMy personal choice would be Ilucia if I had her but only because I like the character.
>>1199428Depends what you mean by "fun".For most unique, I would say Transcender, Joa/Connie, Ricky, maybe Agnes and Vincent. For "unique" but you'll never use them, probably Betty, Suzette, Saintess, Giz, maybe even Angelica since there's no limit to her summon creation which is very funny. For actually meta but has a few unique things that make them stand out, I would say Elmo, Kertesz, Ashumere.If fun just means killing shit or being useful in Ragnarok, it's Elmo, Ashumere, Kagura, Brenda, Azusa. Slightly less useful but still used would be YJess for Freya, Lanford for being a stat stick, Mariendel for being another long range mage with some healing.
>>1199440>My personal choice would be Ilucia if I had her but only because I like the character.Your 50 Vincent shards?
A shame I'm using something else on the character I originally wanted to use it on.
>>1199547Ready together with a CP from last year, although I think I'll try to summon on the banner anyway
>>1199630Cool.got nuBrenda and shilinka?
>>1199700Unfortunately not, otherwise I would take at least Rainforce, but in the end it's better this way since I don't have Sigma, Gizarof and space to shard him
havent played in about a year and a half did they ever add any growlanser characters to the game? or other cool collabs like yuyu hakusho/lodoss wars
>>1200029No and no, they keep collabing with falcom for trails characters
>>1200070
>>1197321Who are the bonds?
ty ig
>>1200665ATK AdankelmoDEF Grenshiel
>>1200671Yeah fuck idk who those even are.I have 45 Wetham shards should I go for him instead?
>>1200070>>1200029Shining Resonance is coming if you like the nu Shining series. Don't know if their units are good.
>>1200683Both banners will rerun, but if you're going to roll now, just go for Wettham especially since you can cut down his sharding time with your 45 shards and even those general shards from floaring realm.Adankelmo will be on rate up soon with Elma if that matters, and Grenshiel is still M.I.A. outside of the most recent oathsworn rate up in CN.And personally speaking, Adankelmo is far more useful in PvE than Awakener although the former basically requires 6*.Also her bonds are [Moon Archon] &[Lostham], also rare units of you didn't get lucky on the destiny banners they were on, although Lostham will return one more time with Vincent/Epsilon after the Sagani/Amadeus banner.Unless you lack Zerida and Bozel which I find hard to believe.
Do your Joint Battles!
Map events!
>>1201262Same sister!>>1200667
>>1201629Matthew is going to look like this by the time Almeda gets her SP class.
Finally decided to go and cheese the first Ragnarok stage. It wasn't too bad but I can't imagine what kinda shit you have to go through doing it normally, I totally get why people would quit after trying to clear. Also I didn't know you got orbs on top of stats, man now I have to actually put effort towards clearing the rest.
>>1201860I did hear that a few of the newer ones were easier? The early ones can really get unreasonably hard, and they require you have certain characters built. I am so burnt out on them I've barely touched the last 2.
>>1200813I actually got a scepter from weapon crafting on the floating city
>monthly ssr acc>2 ssr from random boxes>2 ssr accs for memory sharts>1 more for wishes>all shit>still not a single OB, jewel, plush or apex bootsi just don’t wanna play anymore t b h
>>1201977They really need to increase access to accessories.Like slap a chance in at sunday jbs, or a map event, or something.Best thing I got this month was prisoner's gear myself.
>>1201981Access to rare* accessories. One thing they did right was adding quite a few of the useless armor/headgear into the common pool instead making it feel more varied and the rare pool less bloated. But with weapons and accessories, it seems like they're really pushing people to buy the $20 pack or roll the wishlist banners because every single addition has been classified as a rare. This obviously wasn't a problem early on as much since you had like 1/10 for each rare wep or accessory and the rates are fixed between common/rare, but now we have like 30+ in the rare pool making it exceedingly impossible to get any specific one, and it feels terrible to get a useless rare one.
>>1202197You're right on that.I'm technically a day 1 player and I don't have a Ragnarok still. It and Lurker's Sting are the only 2 weapons I don't have at least 1 copy of.
>>1201981>>1202197It would be enough to have a dragon for accessories and the problem would be partially solved and I would add that the drop rate of the other dragons should also increase since a whole week without SSR is not uncommon.However the game is getting too big, too much garbage equipment and too many garbage units for PVE.
It's time for some new skins!Let's start with our antagonist, Yani.
>>1202515Also with two new bride skins! This one is for Mariandel.
>>1202516And this one belongs to Clarett.
>>1198476Here is Roland's Echo of Light skin.
>>1198477Precia gets her Echo of Light skin too.
>>1202516I need way more brides and swimsuits for newer characters without as many skins. Sitting on like 2k skin vouchers and I don't want to just buy skins that feel like a sidegrade or for variety.
Finally got myself that hammer and one more Last Rites to sit on the bench to gather dust.JP finals happened last night and boy it ended up looking so one sided it was kind of disappointing. We at least now have a second person who has won more than once. https://litter.catbox.moe/x3wpb7.mp4
>>1202517ENOUGH WITH THE CLARETT SKINS
>>1203116It is odd how Clarett is getting lots of skins. Do the chinks really love her or something?
>>1203116Clarett is love! Clarett is life! >>1203117Maybe, but the OP loves her so much and Zlong just tries to fulfill his expectations.
Thinking of coming back after years, is this game still kind of humanly balanced or it devolved completely to payshit?
>>1203254Seeing as we've barely had any additions to PvE content, I don't think it's possible for it to devolve to payshit that quickly since each addition also adds a mechanic that makes your units stronger. I would say it's actually less balanced in favor of the player nowadays if you played maybe a year after launch because of a few additions like adventurer aid, covenants and castings. With adventurer aid, you're doing something so horribly wrong if you have a hard time up till 40 or so. Castings are a very minor buff unless you grind the lower levels for an exorbitant amount of time on purpose. Covenants are overpowered god units you can use on most maps, but you can't really unlock them until you're 70 and have at least 1 decently built team and maybe a few units to carry 2 other teams, but once you unlock even the first one, Thor, he helps immensely with any other content you have trouble finishing up on.The other change would obviously be the hero pool. More long range mages alongside some units that cater specifically towards Apex means there's more variance, although they trended towards trying to make units that are at least good in PvE even if they shine in Apex for the past year or so, so honestly you probably have better chances nowadays of getting someone useful unless you played at launch with the PvE 9.QoL changes that also favor the player include guild rewards making it mind numbingly easy to class up and gold aniki mats added to the guild shop so 40% on all takes no grinding plus the addition of a few new clearly overpowered t4 troops. You also get a free faction buffer select at level 30 now out of Bern/Ledin/Dieharte/Alte/Shelf/Landius, and new players get a rotation of faction banners plus one wishlist making it easy to just choose who you want.
>>1203280Oh ok sounds reassuringIf you tell me they added more playablr evil women and monsters I'll definitely dl it back.I really, really like evil women...
>>1203291>monstersclosest thing is are 2 centaurs but those are future characters>evil womenthe current limited on rate up counts and they HOPEFULLY won't redeem hershe's also going to return so don't stress about getting her right now
now that's what I'm talking about
>>1203477I never get those, timezones being a large part of that.
>>1203116I agree. We need more Cherie skins instead.
