Anyone gonna be pulling for Neon?
>>1147667Not me for sure, she doesn't seem too interesting to really bother and upcoming months are gonna be rough for my resources, speaking of, anyone mind giving me rundown on what Vivi and Mog will be gettin?Also, speaking of Neon, I find it a bit interesting how... tame, so to speak, Neon seems to be compared to what Jack was and Astos will be.
>>1147667I'm pulling because she's cute. Also I need another turn-hogging damage dealer since Terra, even with Echo and rework, isn't cutting it anymore. Really wish I could get the Red Mage costume though...
Good luck on Neon!
Got her FR/LD/EX with 60 tickets. Good enough and back to save for Rubi
>>1147712Vivi gets to spam his HP+ attack while his BT aura is active. It gives him something like 13 HP dumps with the follow up from his LD. Mog is basically like he always was. A hybrid damage dealer and support. His BT enchants the party with Water and his FR puts a confuse on enemies for two turns.
>>1147667Had 76 tickets after WoL ate 400 of them and then also ate gem pity for the FR. Got the LD in like one or two multis, then got the EX on my very last single pull, which was all I wanted. Based and generous game. I just finished her Lufenia. She would have been so fun in Lufenia/Lufenia+. It's a shame about Force Time being what it is>>1147712>Neon seems to be compared to what Jack was and Astos will be.She does seem a bit toned down comparatively, but JP overestimated what Jack is/was. He didn't powercreep any of the big dick DPS of the time, and he has the added condition of being shit on unbreakable fights, which the most difficult ones tend to be. Astos seems like he's the only really bonkers one, and seeing what Noel can do, it's more appropriate to say that maybe he was just the first character of a new mini era of powercreep
Another completely soulless ticket mission completed with another character that I didn't even want to pull for, except this time it was an extra disappointment because the new tickets aren't happening yet
Had to bring Jack and Neon together because why the fuck not?
Reading the latest story chapter, is Garland supposed to be social commentary on the nature of Final Fantasy players and their insatiable desire for content?>>1147667I managed her full kit, including BT, with tickets.
>>1147667Maxed her out fully since I was a huge SoP fan and got back into the game due to Jack being added. Now just focusing on maxing out Minwu and WoL since I got lucky on their banners and saving for Tifa & Rubicante.
Fuck these 2 FR banners, I keep getting Minwu's and CoD's when they're both maxed
Soooo using Neon's Inferno completely crashes my bluestacks...
Jack and his second wife...spent 60k gems and a 100 or so tickets to get her full kit. Also managed to mlb CoD's FR from pulls alone.
>>1147667I did. I like fire. Is her BT important to have?
>>1151287She requires it to enchant the party with fire. Without her BT her debuff will fall off of enemies very quickly.
>>1151287>>1151655>She requires it to enchant the party with fireThat's not true, her AA enchants the party with fire. Her BT is true fire enchant, allowing her FR to be used even with other elemental characters, but you probably shouldn't be using her FR as the FR in the first place
>Spent all my resources on Neon because she's cute>Didn't get the BT>Now I have nothing for the Edge LD, Squall FR and Tifa/JGarland BT I am missingGotta stop thinking with the lower head holy shit.
>theres over 300 tickets to get in the exchange shop.... Is there a catch here? Are we getting less tickets in the future? Theres gotta be a catch.
>>1152542The catch is that there's less events per month but the roughly the same amount of resources gained
>>1152544I see. Well the co-op grind is certainly going to be even more painful, so theres that downside i guess.
Penelo go unga bunga. I hope I get lucky and nab Vivi's FR just cause he is a cute fella.
>>1152551Oh goddamn. There's 150 tickets and each ticket is 250 tokens? Guess I'll be grinding this one for awhile.
What do i even take for this LUF co-op? It feels like this might be the first time where using a full BT phase with Tifa would be the fastest
>>1152957>It feels like this might be the first time where using a full BT phase with Tifa would be the fastestDon't do that. I had a Tifa use a Luna call and then Echo and then press some buttons and kill them in like 4 actions. Always preferable over a full BT phase
>>1152957Tifa FR + Ignis/Lulu call in case your teammates are really shit does well enough. No need to BT just keep using FR.If no Tifa or Vivi Gladio with UW also gets things done.
>>1151287Just did her Shinryu and I was able to keep up her stacks with EX and S2 spam and no BT.
Six-Man Area 8 is very annoying at first luckily manage my team. Cater dodge and counters/Edgar use defense ignore ability. Got no gems left, but luck went to Cater BT/FR.
Did the camera always glitch inside Tifa's fist during the final punch of her BT? Its been doing that for me
>>1153673I think it depends on the size of the target
>>1153572JPbro I found this info in the other thread, can you vouch for it?Any other hard fights to look out for?
>Squall event called "Whatever, Whatever"based
I really wish support items were something you could use at the end results to double the rewards of the run you just did. Same with the bells actually.Had a Vivi player purposely quit after hitting the Kefka sticker just because the Tifa in the room was doing all the work as quickly/normally as possible, probably butthurt he couldnt show off his FR or doesnt think the boss orb is completely irrelevant. 3 minutes of boost and a bell wasted.
>Shinryu Co-OpsI'm fucking scared bros...
>>1154497Dont worry, bro, you'll get your turn. In about half an hour after im done charging the FR gauge :)
>>1154497Took forever to clean up shop but I'm done. Got a wipeout in it once lol.I was bringing a fire enchant call thinking the worse that could happen was the orb exploding but the biggest threat is them doing an AoE BRV+HP instead of BRV only so a WoL call is your best bet for safety
I macro farmed the co-op with Edge. Funny thing is that multiple times I looked over and I was the only person alive. Luckily Edge can solo it apparently, even a shitty bot/macro. Two of the times that I noticed I was the only person alive, I manually used my Eiko call to revive everyone right before ending the fight manually, but that was only fun once, so I just let the macro run the other times that I noticed it happen again
Are Serah and Squall anything special? I know Rubi is the game changer everyone is talking about.
>>1154887>SerahMeh>SquallBecomes the biggest AoE DPS, has really easy to fill FR conditions. Definitely a good pick especially if you already have the BT and can chase the FR with tickets>RubicanteThis is the character I am most conflicted about. JPfags can't stop singing praises and say he still holds up even now but if you look at the clears on the actual hard fights mentioned on >>1154063 you'll see no Rubicante but a whole lot of characters no one is hyping like Aerith.I decided to pull him but it's more because I need to justify the fist UW I am building for Tifa and the fact that solo characters are inherently more valuable on GL than JP because of D2D/Crevasse. I'm skipping Cor BT next month for Rubicante and I can already see myself regretting that decision.
>>1154887>Squall+50% HP Damage cap up FR, so you should probably attempt to get it. The best thing you could be doing now that we have echo is ensuring that the base FR you use has "easy to fulfill" conditions while also providing +50% HP damage cap up. Not very many of them give +50% HP damage cap up>>1154914Rubicante is a counter tank with 6 HP attack counter and he can also charge the gauge. I doubt you will regret anything, unless you dislike using tank characters>but a whole lot of characters no one is hyping like Aerith.Aerith is *the* friend unit, though even better as a non-friend with 3 turns. Her FR is empty like Minwu's, but she actually gets Echo, and an empty FR has all the same properties that an empty gauge charge move has, so in practice you end up getting >+100% gauge per Echo, then you do one of Aerith's regular gauge charge moves, and now you have like 400%+ gauge with 9 turns of Force remainingI made the argument before that I think Penelo's expiration date is Aerith, and that's the reason why. There are better base FRs, like ones that actually have +50% HP damage cap up, and there are better support slots, like Aerith, and there are better DPS characters, like any of them. And then as soon as Quina comes out, Penelo will really be dead because her BT effect wont really have a place anymore either, outside of like one beefy BRV/HP shield mechanic that shows up in a 6 man
Should i save my skip tickets for future events or nah
>>1154944I'm saving them for Shinryu co-ops specifically. Do whatever you want with yours though
>>1154945Are rewards from shinryu coop that much better/necessary? Lufenia coop already feels like overkill sometimes, dunno if that's going to change soon
Speaking of skip tickets for coop, do the rewards you get take into account a team of boosted units or is it just the rewards you would get if you cleared a coop by yourself?
>>1154944>>1154953I used 10 in this event because the shop was ridiculously stacked. Don't think non-seasonal shops will be this filled.And the interesting thing about using skip tickets on co-ops is that books will work and so will synergy if the three characters in your current team are boosted, so the pro gamer move is to pop a book, use your skip tickets then use the rest of your book time entering co-ops as a guest. This basicall
>>1154962>This basicall-ly means skip tickets double the amount you can get from a 2x/3x book. Also it basically works as if you cleared the content normally so if all 3 of your chars are boosted you get the full rewards from a regular co-op with people.
>>1154950I have no idea. All I know is that I can easily macro Chaos/Lufenia co-ops to auto-grind the resources to completion but that I would almost definitely not be able to do this with Shinryu, and not only that but I'm dreading even just the 1 Shinryu completion to unlock the ability to skip. I'd rather save them for the Shinryu regardless
>>1154962>>1154964Awesome, thanks anon.
>>1154944I dumped 15 of them into the current event with a 3x book and I didn't even get half of the draw tickets.
>>1153572Every clear of this I see has either Cater, Kurasame or Edgar, with Setzer trying to cover for the lack of some of them.I don't want to pull for any of these people what the fuck.
>>1155590>I don't want to pull for any of these people what the fuck.I don't know why there is this recent trend here on 4chan where someone (or one person) is suddenly freaking out like OO is going to throw you a curve ball and become difficult out of left field. OO is not difficult. The fights are not difficult. I have never had any sort of difficulty with this game, other than (as I've said before) some GL First shit. Any other "difficulties" I've had, and even the difficulties I've had within the GL First shit is that I don't want to be using the characters that they are obviously shilling, and it can still be done without those characters. The game is not hard and it has not been hard. I don't know why you would think that with increasing player power level that the game would become difficult when it has not been previously difficulthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmUy_a4r_kMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVZcHazPNXQJust pull Rubicante and/or Quina. The game apparently plays itself afterwards. The Cater in the 2nd video only has EX+. Why are you worrying. Garbage time never ended, it just had a bit of a speed bump
>>1155619>Just pull Rubicante and/or QuinaWill do, thanks chief.Back in the day of DE Entropy I used to go to the wiki to search japanese character names to throw on youtube and find the REAL spicy DEe runs, need to start doing that again.Wonder if my boy fict hanaji is still out there. His runs were the stuff of fucking legend.
>>1155626>fict hanajiYeah, and he still does solo vids for DE, but the really spicy DE solos don't come from him, they come from a handful of random ass youtubers with like 300 subscribers. "Kei" is good too
I just spent a little over 700 Power Stones cleaning out my inventory and leveling up every weapon I had and then selling it. I gained 100 or so inventory slots too. If only I had enough EX books to level up all these EXs. I think I'm like 15 or so too short
>>1155619>Quina was my main nigga in FF9>wanted him/her/whatever in OO>Finally gets in>Quina is also strong as fuck in OO even todayIt's good to be a Quinachad!
Yo what the fuck, why are skins so expensive in this game
>>1155742So that all the paypigs can keep this generous as fuck absolute anomaly of a got tier gacha game afloat. There's no reason to buy anything. Even Force Enhancements did a pretty shitty job at shilling the mogpass, considering I have over 400k right now as f2p. All things considered, it's probably a good thing that the costumes are like $40 or whatever they are, and that they have zero impact on gameplay
>>1155765They're like 60 aussiebucks, it's insane.I do get your point though, but I'm still left wishing there was a cheaper option cause some really do look nice and I'd like to support the game myself now and then. But goddamn, no way are they $60 nice.
>>1155768They're like $40 USD. If they were $10 each I'd buy one or two every month.
>>1155742I wish they'd release more I actually like. 7R designs for Tifa and Barret, Gunbreaker Thancred and Lulu-Like Y'shtola, class costumes for the FF5 characters, a potato suit for Shantotto.
>>1155798At 10 or 15, i would buy one. They need to sell the outfits without the gems, since thats just an excuse to inflate the price. I would've bought Jack G or Ara's.
The only costume that I will regret not being able to have is TAY Golbez. If/when Edge ever gets a BT/FR, I might mourn not being able to get his costume as wellNoctis, Lilisette, Advent Children Tifa, and Prishe all have cool costumes, but I don't use them, so it makes no difference either way. Kam too; I never used him in early Shinryu when he was busted (or before that either) but if I was a paypig, his costume is good enough that I might have used him due to it. All of the other costumes are terrible and wouldn't even be worth $10
I'd do anything for that Fran costume... except pay $38.
Ultima weapon upgrades are going to take forever now, are you guys still saving for another 5/5 or are you just casting the remaining weapons?I got a 0/5 Dagger I'm thinking of refunding but I might just make a fresh Bow UW and keep both at 0/5
>>1156408After I made my 4th 5/5 a long while back, I just make 0/5s now. Probably just gonna go for 1 of each, because I don't even know when I'd have enough cores to 5/5 the 5th one, probably not worth it
FFV bros eating good in JP
at this point I'm 1000% sure they do this because pure evil
>>1156538Nice Firion costume. So where’s Red XIII?
>>1156796If i have to guess they'll save him or someone else from VII like Genesis for when Rebirth is released, just for publicity sake.Still, they really think we care about the Warriors of Dawn. At this point we really might as well get Banon or Blanc.
Finally stopped procrastinating so that I could have my tickets for tonight. I always dread doing the 6 mans. I don't know why, they're usually pretty easy, I just always feel like it's going to be some massive chore. I used Sice, Celes, and Minwu for 90% of the fight, just subbing in Vivi to cancel the Force Time. I should have given Celes the 5/5 Greatsword since I didn't use Galuf, and if I wanted to get fancy I should have made Seven a different trap characterI didn't expect all those traps to synergize, but they did. Celes FR doesn't really care about damage type in practice, and Minwu/Sice/Celes shitting constant trap damage on unbreakable enemies leads to a lot of fucking damage. I killed in 1 Force Time before it even wore off, without a Celes UW. Pleasantly surprised. No calls used
>Just now realize that Squall's FR will usher a new era of co-op Squalls
>>1157082bro, your skip tickets?
>>1157083You'll run out eventually. Hope you like Force Your Way.
>>1157087I just macro co-op anyway after my customary 1 set of bells on opening night to get a feel for which character is the best for bot farming
I'm going to be making a Fist weapon with the April rebuild, but I can't decide which weapon I should disassemble in order to make it. Probably Short Sword since I don't use any of those characters lately, and I'll be trading it for Cid Raines, Tifa, and Rubicane, basically>GreatswordAll the counter tanks, Celes, Squall, Beatrix, etc. Pretty much never going to change>StaffBasically just Minwu, but I do use him a good amount>Short SwordMachina, Dorgann, WoL. I don't find myself using any of these guys lately. I used Machina for DET13, WoL for his event, and I love Dorgann but I cannot remember the last time i used him. I didn't even use him for Crevasse or D2D. Sad>UniqueSice, Cor. There's Enna and Rinoa too, but I think I've used them like one time each, and not recently at all. I do think that I use Cor and Sice more than I use Machina and Dorgann
Fuck yeh Neon and Jack!
Damn, it feels good to complete all the important missions in one go for once.
>>1157161Imo, Staff and then Rubicante can fill in for Minwu while opening up high damage combo characters.
I thought we're in the 8k and 15k CB points now, since we are only getting 4 events per month. And, will they give more BT ingots now that everyone will get their BTs?
>>1157423If the FOOtip is to be trusted, nearly every event from now will give at least one full BT ingot and a full book. Character debuts will give 2 ingots and 10 BT tokens
Thank God the mechanics aren't that restrictive. Quite easy, better than that fucking tree.
Turning on continuous BT bgm for Serah's BT theme
I have 27 books and 21 ingots. I can't even imagine getting more BT materials than we already get
>>1157423They're basically doubling the number of BTs and Ingots you get each month. You should get enough to max out two BTs every month, so half the roster.
>>1157375>Rubicante can fill in for Minwu while opening up high damage combo characters.Like who? What do you mean? What combos? Keeping in mind that 1 slot every single fight is dedicated to the ticket mission character
Looking at the LDs that I'm missing again, it has come to my attention that within the next 8 months, there are zero reruns of Layle, Eald, or Desch. I still have my LD tokens, so those are probably going to go to whoever ends up being the last person to get a BT/FR out of those 3Do either of those 3 even have good LD calls?
Kelger BT/FR showcasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cO0I37uWH4
>>1158103Not in a large roster.
Is she worth greening? Got her FR for free the other night and just got her BT off of the free daily single. Also funnily enough, I got Snow's BT off of a free daily when he came out.
>>1158642I barely green anyone, so I would say "no", but it depends on how much you like and/or want to use her. She's probably not worth both a green and a 5/5 UW Bow, but if you decide you like her kit and want to use her and you do go all in, we're at a point now where anyone coming out would almost definitely result in being good enough that you don't regret it, if you already wanted to do it in the first placeIf you want to follow the signs, so to speak, getting a BT off the 1 daily pull is ridiculously insane odds. But you'd probably get more use out of greening Cid Raines or Rubicante
Was Squall's banner not tonight?
>>1159181https://ffootip.com/forecastI just go by this. They used to have a somewhat regular release schedule to where I didn't have to look, but that was like before Shinryu. Nowadays especially, I just check ffootip. The schedule's so irregular that it might as well not even exist
>>1159188Ah, i was using dissidiacompendium's forecast. I'll hold on to this one too.
Am I hearing KHIII music in the April pot event stage or is just the same composer.
>had literally zero ( 0 ) on Neon banner>spent all of them (~75) just to get her EX and LD>went back to her banner with like ~100 tickets to get her FR after collecting all the tickets from those events>fast forward 3 weeks>after the co-op and Spiritus and April Fool's, I'm back up to 850 tickets, from literal zeroIt's absolutely incredibly that OO would somehow manage to become even more generous than before. Slower release schedule couple with more rewards, or at least the illusion of more rewards, along with everything costing fewer G tokens to pity makes me think that I'll never run out of tickets or gems. That was the first time I ever went to flat zero tickets, and now I'm all the way back at 999 pretty much. I'm also in the position where pretty much the only thing that I'm ever going to pull for going forward will be the brand new BTs and FRs. I have everything else. I'm only missing like 6 FRs, which are just the early Shinryu ones before Kam because I didn't see the point in pulling for them. FRs are easy enough to get with just tickets (usually), and I'm not a person who pulls for or even uses BTs all that often, so the amount of BTs within the next 8 months that I even want are incredibly slim (it might be just Cor, and I can token him). The other BTs I want, I either already have them, or they are for brand new characters, like Rubicante and Quina, so I'll be gem pulling those anywayI don't even know what I'm saying. I'm just blown away at how in the span of a month, the most generous gacha game to have ever existed became like twice as generous as before. I literally can't even
weird but cool pics, i hope they make fusoya good
>was already panicking about pulling for Squalls FR because i have everything for him AND Jack G>panic intensifies when Enna is also featured and already have her entire kit>get Squalls FR on the free multiFATE AVERTED
>>1162393>only 2 Squall FR and had to pity his BT>6 of Enna's FR>7 of Jack's FR and 2 of his BTEnna and Jack's FR were already fully LB'd. I hate Jack so much. I pulled his FR 4 times in a row.
What is this ??? difficulty fight? 69 turns, coin rewards, orb + force on the boss. Is this the real April Fools fight? Im scared.
Fuck this ??? difficulty fight. I'm just glad there's no rewards so if I end up needing to skip it I won't feel too bad. But if I do skip it, it'll be the first fight I haven't been able to clear in like 3 years.
>>1162437>Lufenia AND Force TimeAre we being used as guinea pigs for the next difficulty on JP?
>>1162437>the orb specifically targets every force gauge charger because fuck youNah, fuck this im out.
>>1162494Wouldn't Penelo work? Her HP and EX attacks count as melee.
>>1162502He means specifically gauge charging. Instant turn rate ticks the orb down, so spinning around in circles with Penelo will kill you
>>1162503Instant turn rates almost always tick down Lufenia orbs, don't they? You can still use instant turn charging, you just need to occasionally let other characters take turns to push the orb back up.
>>1162502The orb goes down by like 2-3 for every instant move you make. You're stuck naturally filling up your gauge or only using 1-2 buff moves every turn cycle. Probably the only reliable way to do it is the usually offturn Glad/Cor/Min team and let the game run for an hour+ because the boss is a total health sponge. I didnt bother reading most of the bosses kit after a certain point, but i wouldnt be surprised if it whipped out the biggest dick Force attack that not even Glad/Cor could reduce enough for your third wheel.
>>1162508>Probably the only reliable way to do it is the usually offturn Glad/Cor/Min team and let the game run for an hour+ because the boss is a total health spongehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk0U4XaA5DoI don't think offturn is even particularly good in this fight
Yeah, fuck doing the ??? version of this fight
Is this event aren't giving purple tokens? Even the ??? difficulty just gave me gil. I think even the Serah event didn't give either.
>>1162822No. In JP Serah's and Mog's event didn't give any. They didn't give any BT tokens either. They started rolling all of that stuff out regularly with Rubicante's event.
Scrolling the JewTubes, it seems like every single person who cleared the ??? missions used either Tifa or Squall. Debating internally whether 1 HPS is worth greening Tifa, when I already have 115 HPS. I got her whole kit with just tickets back when her BT came out, but I've never used her because I only like her Advent Children costume in this game; I think her default looks pretty bad here, and as much as I love OO, I'm never paying for anything in a gacha gameI don't want to become a pussy who skips the GL Exclusive content, but it seems to be headed that way for me. I did Crevasse and D2D, but I skipped the GL fight where Ultima, the High Seraph healed itself back to full, which I think was the most recent GL content besides Crevasse and D2D. I don't like feeling forced to green and use characters who I don't like, especially when there aren't even any exclusive rewards tied to it, just a HPS that I don't need and 10 tickets for the ticket mission, which I also don't need. It's not even the 10+1 tickets
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1767049332?t=0h38m31s>"up to shinryu (and something)" says josh>69 turn count>41296 HP requirement>41296 gil reward>squall is from ff8>412 + 8 = 420>42069>whatever, whatever event ends on 4/19 utc (almost 4/20)>rubicante will be running during 4/20, aka "blaze it, faggot"it was right there in plain sight
>>1163079the 41269 is Squalls student ID number from VIII
>>1163201oh, that's cutei still like 412 + (ff) 8 = 420 (69), and the date roughly coincides as well
I just off-turn Spiritus Alexander using Rubicante, Quina, and Deuce for ticket. Too easy.
Just in case anyone missed it. New daily stuff and shop, current Hunt tokens going away on 4/20, old Hunt shop dead on 4/23 so use your tokens before then
>>1164644We're basically switching over to what JP has, since they never even had the Hunts shop that we have had for ages. Unfortunately, its a bit watered down, a monthly limit of 20 summon tickets to get, but there will be enhancement points to buy.
>>1164665Maybe. It's also possible that they're going to just be closing it down so they can release a new shop with better stuff in it, like they did with Mog's Gym but they'll still keep the Hunt system the way it is.
Aight ultra cancer removed.I was about to max either Enna or Cor's FR for this until I realized I can unga bunga with the meatheads I already have built + WoL
Which should I get with tokens, Neon or Serah's BT? I have both FR'sHaven't really played in a while, just did the logins and now I have a bunch of content to catch up with
>>1165461Serah's BT adds a followup that isn't amazing but adds up in force chains. Neon's BT adds a very situational forced fire enchant. Serah's has an unknown rerun, maybe in July which usually has free pulls. Neon's has a definite rerun next to Auron's BT, also estimated for July.Serah feels more generally useful but needs her double cursed artifacts. If you want to use Neon as a damage dealer she'll want her BT phase but she can do her rainbow damage support on most fights without it.
>>1165461If you don't have a big dick damage dealer, then you should probably get Squall or Cid Raines or Tifa instead. And then, depending on how long your tokens last, you could even try to go for Aerith or CorIf the choice is really only Serah and Neon though, Serah is probably the answer. Regardless, make sure you can pull Rubicante's entire kit when he comes around in a week. And then you'll want to be able to pull Quina's entire kit about a month later as well
Do I green Vivi or Mog? For reference, I have Squall and Serah with their full kit if that makes a difference
>>1166275Mog. He's a decent support that can shut down enemies and remove debuffs off the party. Vivi is a good damage dealer but can't do much more than that.
>>1166275Green whichever one you typically have a 5/5 UW of
Mog with two white haired cuties
I keep forgetting to switch Cor's passives back to ATK from back when I changed them to HP for the Ramuh Spiritus duo
>Shinryu coop has started>with Squall as a boosted unitYou know what? Nah.
>reverting to regular form with rinoa after her bt finisher weakens ultima and she has a different voicelineI had no idea
>try multiple times to queue into Shinryu co-op JFF>no joiners, ever, think I'll have to skip it>after trying multiple times yesterday, finally dawned on me that I can just do it myself>I can actually use a team that I genuinely want to be using>once I clear the Shinryu myself, I can use the skip tickets with a boosted party, despite not having cleared the co-op with a boosted partyOkay, the Shinryu co-op is pretty based for giving me a valid reason to complete the same fight twice, once with the ticket mission character whom I must carry through, and a second time with a party that I actually want to use
Anyone pulling for Rubicante tonight?
>>1170046Me. I just dont know if i want to use tickets or gems. Maybe i'll get lucky with the free ticket multis.
>>1170046Yup. Hopefully I don't have to full pity the BT
>>1170046He's voiced by Wakamoto. I'm going all in.
>>1170046He's not really a character I care for so nah.
>>1170046I got buttfucked in trying to get Neon's kit because i hadn't enough so i stockpiled.
Bros, I grinded out everyone's summon boards as well as 99k Wild Points for each summon back on Kain's first Shinryu banner, and now I'm close to needing to grind some Summon Boards again. I don't think they even do Summon Board synergy anymore, do they? They need to create more ways to get Wild Points
>>1170183They NEED to compress all the summons on to one map, the amount of back and forth between menues is so pointless.Hell give us one single stage where we fight all 10 summons.
>>1170195>They NEED to compress all the summons on to one map, the amount of back and forth between menues is so pointless.If you mean actually allocating the points, they *are* all on one map. You just need to scroll around, and once you've reached a point that you are sufficiently in the next summon's grid, the menu at the top flips over as well. The layout is exactly the same as they are displayed on this menu screenIf that's not what you mean, then nevermind. Regardless, you are right; it would be nice if they would condense it to one stage to grind this shit out. They recently made the c90 crystals infinitely grindable via the co-op, they should at least put *some* Wild Points in there as well. Or maybe even the Cactuar shop, I'd take that too
>>1170197Sorry i meant the actual grind stages. Going to go grind Ifrit, than backing out to the stage select, waiting for the loading, and selecting Shiva, more loading, rinse repeat.But i will also say, that i wish the summon boards were also alittle more compressed, make them linear or just let me zoom out all the way to see all 10 boards.
>>1170198>Sorry i meant the actual grind stagesNo need to say sorry, it was my misunderstanding. I only said that because I didn't know until sometime in the last few months that when you allocate points, all of the summon grids are on the same screen. I had been going back and forth, backing out of the menu, picking the next summon, etc. It was a lot of unnecessary menuing, so I thought you were referring to that, but I also know that I probably realized that way later than most peopleI haven't grinded any points since Kain's Shinryu, where I grinded out 10 full teams at a time on each summon, so I haven't yet experienced going back and forth between grind stages for the points themselves. But I only have Rubicante here and then I think on Quina I'm going to need to go grab some more points, so I'll know soon enough
Perhaps this is a bad time to ask this question due to Rubicante coming later tonight, but cleaning up my inventory, I was curious>how many things do you regret pulling for?For me, my biggest regrets are Ramza, Lunafreya, and Cloud of Darkness. I had to pity all of these. Ramza, I pitied and greened because I was a noob and I was basically told to. As soon as I got Selphie I never used him again, because I just fucking hate him, and so does OO. Lunafreya I had to double/triple pity. I hit BT pity and still didn't have the FR or the LD or the EX. Then I got to like 150k gems, and finally got the BT and FR, but I was still missing the LD and the EX. So I had to pity the LD @ 150k, and then I had to buy the EX with EX tokens. Perhaps because of this heinous crime, I've never used this bitch. Never FE'd her, nothing. I used her LD call a couple times to set up Rinoa, that's about it. Cloud of Darkness is a similar story where I had to go beyond pity to get both the BT and FR, and I only pulled her because I didn't really like any of the FR characters at that point in Shinryu, but it left such a bad taste in my mouth that I sat Shinryu out until Cor after this point. Penelo as well, I very much regret being forced by Crevasse to pull for and green this bitch. Shelved her immediately after Crevasse and haven't looked backLightning and DKCecil were impulse pulls. I hate Lightning and I'm not even sure why I pulled for her. I think she was sharing a banner with Beatrix? And I wanted Beatrix, and I had to go really far into pity to get her FR or something, but then I got it and at that point I went all the way to Lightning pity. DKCecil, I just like FFIV. I even solo'd DET13 with Machina before pulling for DKC's FR/BT. I thought I'd regret not having him, but I've only used him for his co-op. Emperor was my first 50 Token BT, and I only did it as revenge because I sunk 1k tickets into his banner. Never used him. Ulti is hot I guess
>>1170250Biggest regret is Squall. I pulled for his EX back when it first released, before the pity system came out. Dropped 250,000 gems and like 800 tickets and didn't get it. Second worse was Quistis' 35 weapon. I put 95k into that banner and didn't get it.
>>1170280>no pity>Dropped 250,000 gems and like 800 tickets and didn't get it.>Quistis 95k no pityDamn, yikes. I didn't realize OO lacked a pity at one pointI wish you (and everyone else) luck on Rubi if you're pulling!
>>1170312Thanks. Pitied the FR and bought the BT with tokens.
>it never even got back around to Rubi's turn againIf I knew it was gonna be like that I would have pressed Echo on the one turn that I got. I was saving it for later
>>1170312I pity Rubi's BT and got lucky to snag one of his FR. But holy shit, the banner went all out giving six of Yuna's FR, and I already have her's when it first came out.
>>1170478Are you me? That's pretty much what happened to me with this banner.Ngl, I'm worried for the upcoming months, they are full of characters I want to get but my luck has only been getting worse and worse as of late...
THIS WAS SO COOL TO WATCH I LOVE FFIV
>Dare to Defy coming backD:
Already did it with Rubicante solo, so I did it again with Neon/Eald/Vivi
>>1170911I have not heard good things about Spiritus Shiva so I may pass on this one.
>>1170911>has a new status badge for bragging rightsNah not this time, not even my OCD cares about it.
>>1170911The last Dare to Defy was perfectly reasonable. Easy, evenI just wish that completing the D2D stage cleared the ticket mission. They again said in the stream that clearing one will clear the other, but I already know that's not going to be the case because they said that last time too and it wasn't the case then. You'll still need to clear each and every single fight twice in order to clear the ticket missions. I fucking hated the first Dare to Defy because it was way too early and forced you to either spend 1 hour on each fight, or to pull for and max objectively shitty FRs with resources that were incredibly scarce at the time. With this latest D2D though, my only complaint was that you still needed to do each fight twice to clear the ticket mission, and for the Spiritus and DET fights, I think you had to do those ones twice regardless even if you didn't care about the ticket mission>>1171259I care, but as I predicted, Crevasse was the more annoying/difficult thing to clear, so I'll probably be using that status badge for the rest of time. I will of course get the status badge, and I'll probably use it for a day just like I did with the wing, but until something is harder than Crevasse was, I don't see the point in using your one status badge slot to display the completion of an easy featJosh said that you can request being able to display multiple status badges as feedback, but I don't know where to submit feedback. It probably wouldn't matter anyway, but still
>accidentally brought a summon that actually doesn't mitigate the HP damage because the horse has a min BRV floor>didn't realize/forgot that the horse is immune to lightning, so the summon does no damage also>still solo'd itIf any newfriends need Brothers Spiritus, Rubi can solo it and Sazh is on Mog's banner right now
>>1170911Not looking forward to the Balthier 6 man on D2D difficult. I heard a number of people say, at the time, that it was one of the hardest fights OO has ever had. The bosses have some bullshit mechanics, though there are a few ways to cheese the fight, like using Quina + Ultimecia and spending 2 hours autoing it down.
>>1171575>I heard a number of people say, at the time, that it was one of the hardest fights OO has ever hadI did some incredibly light research back then, and I think it was a matter of people trying to brute force it with Quina that was the issue. If I recall correctly, they do this thing where they get an HP shield and also a BRV shield, but that the BRV shield is significantly smaller. Well, Quina doesn't help you do BRV damage, she caps your HP damage, and she/he/they/whatever were the hot new thing, so I think part of the perceived difficulty was people brute forcing a large HP shield instead of dealing with the smaller and more manageable BRV shieldThat's like 8 month old second hand knowledge from reading about the fight and seeing JP videos on my feed though. It might still be bullshit regardless, and I might be completely incorrect about all of it
>a piece of cheese next to Rubicante's portraitI hate that every single person who maintains any sort of community resource for this game (at least in GL) is some pretentious fucking asshole or group of assholes who thinks that *their* way of playing the game is the only correct way of playing the game, and that their own farts smell deliciousSo you're allowed to use Garnet and a full team of BT+ characters during "garbage time", all the while complaining about how easy the game is, and instead of maybe using a team of LD only characters to make the game more fun and/or more difficult, the thing you're actually supposed to do is to continue using a team solely comprised of overpowered BT+ characters in an era that absolutely does not need them so that you can join along in the content creator mandated community wide shitposting about how "garbage time" is the worst thing to ever happen to DFFOO, and that Shinryu (an objectively worse game mode that somehow generally has less fight mechanics) will save everything. And then during Shinryu, you're allowed (and encouraged!) to use the anti-gameplay tactic of gauge charging like a fucking pussy while spamming Kam at a time when he's so busted that they had skip a generation of power creep and adjust every FR going forward to account for him existing, and then you're allowed to spam Lunafreya who also gauge charges and does a whole lot of other busted shit, and then Hope Kros, and then Penelo, etc etcBut Rubicante existing is where "we", as the godly content creators that "we" are, draw the line. The only unit in the game that has ever been worthy of having a piece of cheese next to it is Rubicante. Don't you dare use Rubicante! He's the only cheesy thing in this game!
>>1172169He has the cheese next to him to signify that he can solo the fight with no problem at all. We haven't had anyone else who could solo the last fight of a DE without any issues or setup. Also, it's a joke you autist.
>>1172335>We haven't had anyone else who could solo the last fight of a DE without any issues or setuplol, lmao even. You cannot be serious>Also, it's a joke you autist.>>>"""joke"""There's been a lot of cheesy shit in DFFOO, all of it paraded by jewtubers. Every DET tier since 11 has been soloable, quite easily, by at least one currently available character, sometimes more than 1. There's been a lot of characters capable of soloing many normal stages. There's been even more characters capable of soloing stages with a friend support. Rubicante can solo a lot of shit, but this is not a new thing by any stretchGiving Rubicante a cheese icon without giving Garnet, Kam, Penelo, Luna, etc. cheese is just more examples of these pretentious faggots (who I am grateful for, don't get me wrong) sucking their own dick while looking down on the community they create content for
>>1172343Garnet, Kam, Penelo and Luna weren't able to solo a DET stage on release. If you want to cheese DET14, basically by setting up your FR phase and putting your phone down, you do it with Rubicante. You couldn't do that with any of the other characters you mention. You're getting your panties twisted over a dumb visual gag.
>>1172169Sounds like you should stop watching them and stop reading their guides. Then I wouldn't have to read your blog posts about them.
>>1172351>Garnet, Kam, Penelo and Luna weren't able to solo a DET stage on releaseNo one is saying that. If we were going to declare something cheesy, then if we didn't do it at Garnet, we should have done it at gauge charging (Penelo). Or anywhere after that. Or even at Celes. It's biased shit that doesn't belong on a page displaying informationRinoa, Dorgann/Celes, and Machina were all able to easily solo a Reckoning on release. Machina required specific Summon Board nodes, but was easy after you changed them. If you give even a month leeway, this roster of "current" DET solos increases, and also expands to include Ardyn on DET 10>>1172357>"(who I am grateful for, don't get me wrong)"I unsubscribed from every GL jewtuber that I was subscribed to shortly after Shinryu dropped, because that's when it became apparently how retarded they all are. Shilled Shinryu to the moon and back, shit all over Lufenia+ for being easy while using only OP shit, and then it turns out Shinryu is a worse game mode, and all of those faggots are having Penelo spin in circles to fast forward the fight to the 10 turns that they are blowing the boss up in, just like they were doing in Lufenia, except for some reason it's okay to do it in Shinryu where there are actually less mechanics to worry about in a fight. Never have I been the "victim" of such hypocrisyI usually like the infographics on Compendium. I find the infographics to be usually easier to read and interpret than scrolling through the text within the game. There's also usually not any exceedingly biased, overly pretentious personal commentary in these. That's why I'm "upset" about it now. This is the exact reason that I do not use Tonberry Troupe, and now that same pretentious shit is bleeding into a website that I actually like. If Garnet wasn't cheesy, and if gauge charging wasn't cheesy, then there is no way that suddenly Rubicante and only Rubicante is cheesy. Nothing else cheesy in the entire game, just Rubicante
>>1172388> Nothing else cheesy in the entire game, just RubicanteENTER
>>1172391>TonberryThat's really kinda my point. I expect this shit from Tonberry. Not from an actually useful website like Compendium
>>1172391Okay, cmon now, this is just a joke page. You cant even find it unless you manually type "Quina" in the url of the site.
>>1172395Oh, I actually went to it from FFOOtip.
>>1172391Wait, I don't get that part about Full HP attacks and Split ones, could someone explain it, please?
>>1172461I forget the exact math, but full HP attack does maximum (100% of HP damage) to all enemies. Split HP attacks split the maximum damage by the number of enemies. To keep the two somewhat comparable, split attacks have a higher (invisible) cap than the character's max brave. Split attacks also normally have more HP dumps than full attacks. Under typical situations full attacks tend to deal more damage than split attacks against two enemies and always deal more damage against 3 enemies. But, with Quina maximizing damage, split HP attacks (due to the higher invisible cap) end up dealing more total damage against two enemies than full attacks will and will do the same damage against 3 enemies.
>>1172169>some pretentious fucking asshole or group of assholes who thinks that *their* way of playing the game is the only correct way of playing the game, and that their own farts smell deliciousEvery single post of yours in a nutshell
Good luck to anyone pulling for Kurasame.
>>1173226I'm fully pitying on Raines's banner, using a BT pity on Kurasame's and then using tickets for the rest of his kit. That's the dream and I hope it works out.
>>1173226I wasted 500 tickets just for a single Reines FR. And I'm not even gonna use Kurasame anyway. My luck for this month sucks.
>>1173226Planned to only pull my event tickets & draw tickets on Raines and hope for the FR so I can Token his BT only to get his BT off a single pull draw ticket and then proceeded to get Kurasame's FR & BT back to back off Draw Tickets
>>1173226Got a copy of all of Kurasame's weapons. I'll probably maxed them out later and stop pulling. So many characters back to back that I want to pull for in the next month.
>Rubicante's event is called Gentleman, GentlemanConsidering XIV also acknowledged it, I'm pretty sure someone at Square knows the Hyadain cover and loves it: https://youtu.be/21RFBPoOTugVery based.
Could someone give me a qrd on the units we will be getting this next month and how good they are/how helpful they will be for upcoming fight for this month and may?I need some help with planning out my draws for the next few months since my luck has been horrible as of late and I don't have anywhere near the resources for most of these upcoming banners, so I'm gonna need to make some cuts here and there and some info about the units coming would be helpful to decide which to skip and which to gun for the most, especially since I heard some very painful fights are coming soon.
>>1174640https://www.tonberrytroupe.com/timelineQuina is a unique support that everyone is hyping up. If you're going to BT pity only one then pick this one. If you don't have Raijin's LD call this is a good time.Aeris is an echo spammer on your friends' support list but her BT looks interesting and she's still good at the LD level if you're new.Seymour is a good LD call and Rydia's LD and FR are still amazing when she worksPaine has a blind on her BT just like Yuri, but Kimahri and Rydia and many others can blind too. I never liked her positional gimmick but she's an okay filler support at the LD level. She comes back soon on Jihl's second banner.Celes is still a great tank, even without her BT and Beatrix is still useful.Cor is powerful if you're new and don't have him, his FR is still strong. His BT doesn't seem necessary and you can do the same double proc with a friend trick. Gau is a 3rd man on a counter team and can heal your offturns like Minwu. Cinque is fun but nothing crazy.Noctis is whatever and Cater is undertuned for now but Galuf is one of the 3 heavenly countertanks, get his LD if you're new.Edgar is shilled for Shiva Spiritus but may be functional at the LD level and Kimahri and Deuce are okay fillersLunafreya is spectacular at the LD level and her FR is still good for an early gen 2.
>>1174683Oops, it's hp silence with Paine, not blind.
>>1174683>Celes is still a great tank, even without her BT and Beatrix is still useful.nta but as a newer player my amount of tanks is limited to WoL, Gladio and of course Rubi, I really like Celes and Beatrix but would they be useful? I saw Beatrix gets a BT+Rework down the line, would it be better to just wait for that instead, like Paine? I was planning on going for Paine on the upcoming banner but now I'm considering waiting for the Jihl banner to pick her up just so it's easier on my crystals.
>>1175416You're probably set on tanks, other than lockout content. Galuf also shows back up on Dorgan's banner. There may be an image that has more banners than the timeline, and whether you bite on someone sooner or later is up to you. August is my bookend since it debuts the last transcendence with a few weeks to earn it's mission rewards, but it's just gems and nothing to stress about for a new player.
>>1175416I'm a different anon, and I said a while back that I'm wanting Paine for the YRP dream, but since that clearly is never actually going to happen, I'll probably just wait for the Jihl banner for added value, since I already have everything for Tidus. Like the other anon said, Galuf is another LD only unit that is actually good, and he is best friends with Rydia if you have any interest in her or her FR (I know some newfriend is a fellow Rydiabro)If you are still interested in tanks and already have Rubicante, then Zack is a real cool dude. He carried my ass through every piece of content in this game pre-Shinryu. I cleared the whole entire game with Zack in my party. There was a point somewhere between DET8 and DET9 where I actually figured out how to play the game, and at that point I started using LD only characters like Freya, Arciela, and Selphie, with no calls, because Luf+ was pretty easy, but when I was clearing the backlog of content, I crutched on Zack super hard. You'd need his BT, which is a bit of a bummer and maybe don't pull for it depending on how you feel, but if you get his BT he's great. While his BT effect is up (and his lock debuff), he is completely invincible, and so is the whole god damn party. No one can die. His regular lock debuff redirects all single target attacks to Zack, and his BT effect causes every "All" attack to only target Zack as well, and while the BT effect is up he cannot die, even if his HP is zero. He zombies through everything. The only thing that can kill him are instant-death effects, like most Lufenia orbs popping. The only other way anyone can die is if his lock debuff expires or is cleansed from the enemy, and then that enemy decides to target a non-Zack party memberHe's more of a niche pick, but can be a hardcore crutch for newbies. I will instantly max his FR and his FEs because he was such a bro in carrying me through my noob phase of the game
What are you getting with dailies tokens? I'm thinking enhancement points
>>1175633I've got plenty of points from being a day 1 $5 mog pass pay pig so I just buy tickets. Everything else is too expensive to be worth it.
>>1175633Tickets. It's 200 for a BT token, so 10,000 for a full BT. Or I could get 3,333 tickets, which on average will net me two BTs, plus tons of other stuff.
>>1175633>enhancement pointsCan you actually farm those? I'm a day 1 player and had like 100k+, but those new boards and FR enhancements drained all of them.
>>1175633When they turned the ticket missions from 10 regular tickets to 10+1 tickets, it pretty much removed my need for tickets. I have everything in the game except for new FRs and BTs. I had literally zero tickets on Neon's banner, and now I have like over 100 of them sitting in my mailbox on top of the 999 I'm capped at. I don't chase BTs with tickets, I barely chase BTs at all, and FRs come easy enough with just the 10+1s. I used to buy the tickets, but I cannot see myself needing them ever againI have ~420k Enhancement Points as f2p because I only FE characters whom I actually like and use more than just the one time for their banner ticket mission. I do not need Enhancement Points at all, but gaining the ability to buy them might cause me to be a bit more lenient with who I do Force Enhance. I mean, it's either those or EX ingot fragments. The rest of the stuff is literally useless for me, and the BT Token is too expensive to justify purchasing
>>1175467Basch is a budget version of this with just his LD and he shows up with Reks.
Selh'Teus from FFXI: Chains of Promathia is the next JP character
>>1177059So i guess Prishe knows this guy.Still, good on the MMOs finally getting something new. Maybe XIV will be lucky enough soon.
>>1177059When can I just get one more Tactics character?
>>1177672After Izayoi.You'll get Montblanc
>>1177672Granted! Luso soon.
>>1177672Whenever we find what in the fuck the Tactics team have been busy with for so long apparently it's a remake or remaster or something like that if leaks are realI lost my shit during the story when Ramza and Agrias just dropped their compass and got lost somewhere and everyone was like "oh, I wonder where they got to, oh well" and just kept going like nothing was wrong, they clearly can't do anything with those two and it's been like that for a while now
Blessed event multi tickets
Hope everyone got Aerith without killing their Quina stash!
I haven't even gotten everything for Rubicante yet, and I'm already broke. FML.
>>1178311Get everything for Rubicante bro, don't sweat it. Aerith is good, but you only "need" her FR
Fuck this Shinryu. Got the boss down to 10% and suddenly he cut in the turn order, tore through WoL's shields, dropped everyone to 50% health and I couldn't heal back up before I won.
>>1178382>Boss charges at the speed of light>just letting it get one turn lets it do 3 separate missile attacks>insta kill 1 unit on gauge activation with 20 turns of FR time...ok...
Force Enhancement level 50costs 5k more points for 40costs 5k more points for 50Be more careful with your points, f2p bros
>>1178382>>1178402Yeah this boss is legit obnoxious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OAbUnPte-cDiscord trannylationsForce Enhancement level 50>Up to 45% of your Force Gauge remains, even after Force Time (the number reduces and turns white)>3% per 10 Force Levels, up to 15% per character>when entering new Force Time, the % gauge begins at the retained number instead of 100%I wonder how huge numbers are about to becomeSelh'teus>damage, and healing based on damage done>converts overhealing into BRV, and also recovers BRV>EX heals and revives party, BRV battery, instant turn rate, + general buff that also gives overhealing>LD buff seems like maybe it has a Sherlotta effect (recovers BRV after each hit... for self only?)>FR gives overhealing (conditions: magic attack, acting while having over 100% hp)>BT gives gold framed debuff (unable to act/paralyze, hp poison based on enemy's own max hp !!)>BT gives changed HP attack, seems basically like Penelo's changed HP but also recharges his EXThat poison based on the enemy's own max hp seems interesting. That's a really cool effect in video games, but maybe it wont last long enough here to be very useful. I wonder if he'll be able to kill things slowly from 100-0 with his 2 instances of poison from BT and BT+
Ugh, this asshole house man...
>>1179337I swear does WoL shield even do anything against this fuck? I swear everyone was taking the same amount of damage on every suicide drop or the other AoE move.
>>1179743Boss gives itself rainbow damage so it just tears through WoL's shields like paper.
>>1179743Use Rydia's LD call
Hellhouse Shinryu: Aeris UWFR+ (Seymour) Raines BT+FR+UW2 (Keiss) Galuf UW (Shelke unused) PandemoniumMaxed enhancements on Aeris. Initially did this with Leon but needed an Aeris friend to push the last 21%, however a maxed UW for Raines could make up the difference. This run used 3 force times as I was able to slip in Raine's second FR before the boss's with 5 turns of BT left.Aeris was running on fumes with Galuf's s1 helping to charge in between buff upkeep. Galuf will not counter the gravity attacks but will counter the other thresholds.
>>1181002I did a rushdown strat with Penelo/Aerith/Tifa, mostly to see the fun interaction between Penelo and Aerith's FR. Took only one FT but it required a very rigid turn order to pull it off.Maybe I'll do that fight again in a more laid back manner with some other team to see all the mechanics.
>>1181002>Galuf will not counter the gravity attacksExcept in the coop version. Consistency!>>1181307>but it required a very rigid turn orderThis fight is very temperamental.
I am ready
Good luck everyone!
>got the BT on the same pull that got me 400 G tokensWell isn't that special. Can't really complain though since I got Rubicante's whole kit for 5k
>>1182400You gonna buy the FR stones or a BT dupe?
>>1182407I do not know. It's just sitting there for right now. I don't need any of it. Probably the dupe, or maybe even 4 EX books since I still don't have all of those maxed out
>>1182400Iv had this happen 1 too many times. Had to pity his BT but at least i got the rest of his kit along the way.
Didn't finish Rubi and hardly have anything to spend on Quina :')I should really not play gacha at all with luck like mine.
>>1182415>I should really not play gacha at all with luck like mine.You shouldn't play gacha if you are not prepared to pity everything. Do not ever pull on anything (in any gacha game) unless you can pity whatever you are pulling. DFFOO is retardedly generous, but you do still need to actually play it in order to get all of the permanent gems and tickets so that you can amass enough things to reach pityPlaying a gacha as f2p takes planning and impulse control, and this game is one of the very few that lets you pull on pretty much everything anyway (as long as you are actually clearing out the permanent content for the gems and tickets)
>>1182418It takes so long to grind up resources, I would be missing vital characters if I didn't roll.
Welp, its off to the summon mines. I'll see you all in therapy.
>>1182423You were complaining about luck and an inability to finish pulling for Rubicante. If you had grinded the resources (of which there are plenty) then neither of these things would have been an issue. Of course, I understand not wanting to do this, but gacha is not really a "lucky" thing for most people, and is generally more of a "go to pity" sort of thing
>>1182424Tifa with nothing but battle cry equipped is really too
>>1182432*Really fastAlso Aerith can solo farm the new lufenia stage with two FRs into BT. She might need UW depending on the team's Lufenia armor.
>got all of Quina's stuff>severly tempted to pull for Kam's kit (purely because I love XI)>but I know he's bad now because they haven't updated him>but also I'm sitting on 500k crystals and have the rest of my pulling planned outI'm dangerously close to making a mistake.
>>1182424I usually use Cloud actually, Blade Beam just wins in 1-2 hits depending on the fight
>>1182432>>1182441Terra melts everything with an LD and deals with Shiva/Bros phase 2 revive like nothing. Its just still a 25 minute or so process of going through every summon, menu navigation, loading screens, team selecting, unnecessary result screens every fight, friend selecting (really wish they would put the "no ally" at the top of the list, or just let us disable it entirely), and ect.
>>1182449You can go in the fight without a friend character. Scroll all the way down and select No Ally when entering the fight. At the end choose Retry and the game will skip ally selection for you.
>>1182439Don't do it anon! Unless you have the costume
>>1182452I know, i said i wish they'd put that at the top of the list.
>>1182455I haven't spent money on this game at all, actually. This is the first Kam banner I've had available to me, and if I was gonna spend on any outfit, it would've been Jack's a couple of weeks ago. They really should've just given him his FR boards and saved us all the trouble.
>>1182415>I should really not play gacha at all with luck like mine.You and me both, these past few banners in particular have been absolutely merciless with my reserves.Gonna have to skip more banners than I was already expecting I was gonna have to/was planning to skip.
All I want is more enhancement points. 5k for f2p player is too low when a single character needs 28k to be fully maxed. Even with normal moogle pass is not even enough.
>Quina FR didn't cancel their Force Time>waited until they were already broken ("cancels break")>used Echo again, Quina still didn't cancelDid I fuck something up, or is it really that the only way Quina can cancel the enemy Force Time in her own fight is to have her BT effect active? If so, that's pretty jewishAnyway, I did not use Quina's BT, I let her die during their Force Time and then revived her with Eiko, so I did it the easier way. I did get the BT because FOMO OP, but we'll see what Dar3 to Defy "makes" me do. I still don't think I've recovered from the D2D/Crevasse anniversary though. Not really looking forward to it
Is Quina worth building an ultima spear for? I just dismantled the knife I made for Penelo after I realized that I rarely ever use any offensive moves with her. I kind of regret dismantling my short sword and my staff.
She say stop cheesing stages,,,I stop her BREATHE
>>1182856Quina is supportive, not Dps so you shouldn't make a lance just for her. Aranea makes good use of it so if you plan on pulling for her you might as well make it, just now that there are better UW users.
>>1182856Her trap has 5 HP attacks, her EX has 7 HP attacks, and if you have her BT effect up, her Cook ability has 12 HP attacks. I don't really think she's worth building a Spear for solely for her, especially if there is another weapon weighing on your mind (you mentioned Short Sword), but she would still benefit from it a lot if you do decide to build a Spear and/or use Quina often
>Vayne walks in on screen>SKIP SCENEJesus does this guy EVER shut up or stop sounding like a broken record?
Anyone know if any of the upcoming fights are real fuckers? Looking at the Dare to Defy list, the last one looks like it's the Spiritus? Which you apparently need either Edgar or specific calls for (and I think Raines helps too?)Anything notable about any of the other fights?
>>1183134Spiritus Shiva and Balthier 6-man are motherfuckers judging from comments. Then there are two GLEX fights that are unknowns.
>>1183159>two GLEX fights that are unknownsFUCK
>>1183134I recall JP players saying Balthier is one of the hardest fights we've had in OO.
Gotta love rainbows
Unlucky anon updateI managed to get Quina's BT with some desperate poverty rolls. Not a whole lot else.
>impulse pitied Aerith BT, after not pulling it originally>have never used Aerith>will never use Aerith>I will not green the BT>she's not even my friend supportSurely I wont regret this 1 year from now when my gem stash is gone, right?
>>1183695She's still relevant in JP so you have plenty of time to change your mind
>>1183722>change your mindProbably not, but FOMO is a powerful drug
>>1182455||I did in fact make the mistake, fucker made me go full pity too||||I still have 450k so in the end it doesn't change anything so my dedication to XI stays strong but maybe FR boards someday||
>DET11 cheese strat strikes againThis took I think like 7 hours of having the emulator run in the backgroundIt reminded me of when I used to play WotV
>>1184299What's the deal here? Kinda want to do it but >7hours
>>1184404https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye2duawdXv4&list=LL&index=4You just need Zell with an off turn. Their Force Time makes it so you can't gain buffs, and if Zell doesn't gain his buff, you can Auto+ the fight using Punch Rush because he doesn't gain the buff that turns it into Burning Rave. You want Kain to be in the air before they activate Force Time, and then you want it to be Zells turn when they activate Force Time, and you want a Setzer call or something to avoid the Force Time damage. That's about it
>>1184299I used Quina and Ultimecia. That Zell one looked fun though.
>>1184411Thanks I think I'll try that so I can save Quina for the later fights
Does anyone know when the Celes rerun is coming around? Is it for pic related? I gave my Celes sphere to someone else, but it turns out that apparently is BiS for Celes, and the more difficult Celes solos straight up require her to have her own full sphere. I have EX tokens I could buy it with, but I checked the calendar and she's coming up soon, so I don't really want to spend 10 EX tokens when I could wait a week and get her that way, since I'll already be wasting EX books and ingots for an EX I already maxed out
>>1185716Nobody knows. It was a seasonal banner that started running alongside Balthier's BT release. They often turn those seasonal banners into full events in GL. May Faire seems like a good spot for it.
>>1185751Damn. Before I made that post I even skimmed the twitch stream slides and didn't see Celes there, and though I did not scour them, I saw no passing mention of some mystery banner eitherI'm 100% f2p, but I even checked in the shops to see if there were any sphere removers, and there aren't. I don't know how much they are when they are available (or if I simply overlooked them), but if they were like $5 for 10 I would have actually bought them, breaking my f2p cherry. Missed opportunity
Anybody planning to pull and build her? I've heard she's pretty cool.
>>1185782Does she actually need it? I didn't give her her own sphere, I slapped Gladio's sphere into her, and used her for quite a few solos. If it's that big a deal, couldn't you use Zack's sphere? It basically does the exact same thing.
>>1186220>Does she actually need it?She doesn't need it for most solos, I've solo'd plenty of things fine with whatever sphere I gave her (Snow's, iirc?) but it is absolutely fucking required for some, like Pandemonium SpiritusI've also been trying on and off to solo DET14 with Celes since its release, and it's just not working out. I can blow my entire load and get to 30% easily but then I get cockblocked by the threshold, or I can space it out (like I need to), but I have to spend just a little too many resources in getting through the first threshold that I can't make it through the 2nd thresholdI know it's possible because I've seen multiple screengrabs of it being possible (before crystal sparkle), and the video I saved from way back when, the only video of the actual fight that I know to exist, which I re-examined after finally accepting defeat, is using her own sphere on her, just like was required for the Pandemonium fight
>>1186240I'd just stick Zack's sphere on her. It's the same bonus, just a slightly different trigger, but it'll functionally be the same. I don't see why it would make a huge difference though. It just gives her a small bit of brave back (40% of her int brave, so just a few thousand brave) on her first HP dump each turn.
>>1186246>It just gives her a small bit of brave back (40% of her int brave, so just a few thousand brave) on her first HP dump each turn.I don't see why either. I'd think that a permanent 10% attack would basically do the same thing or better, but it doesn't
>>1186246For Panda, I think you needed it to not get broken, but I don't know why it would make any difference in DET14. I could also just suck, that's definitely a possibility, but as a last ditch effort I'm in the market for a Celes sphere and only a Celes sphere and if I doesn't come on May Faire then I'll probably use EX tokens to buy it. I have all the EXs and 60 tokens still, so the only thing I'm ever going to use them for is spheres anyway
>2 of the multi tickets gives me dupes of Tidus' FRNah, im not mad.
>Shinryu cleared>Rubicante/Quina/LD only Paine>no calls and no summon usedPretty fucking easy.
>>1187054Rubicante might be the best investment in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTAVMcyzBkUActual clown world. Looks like Fujin is a must pull, along with Astos
>>1188066Launch memes are the devs' favourite thing. They used to make some bosses launch-proof but it's been ages since the last one I remember.
>>1188252The last one I remember is Safer Sephiroth in Lufenia+ because my Freya/Selphie/Arciela team worked on pretty much everything except that fight. I pretty much stopped doing launch entirely after that
>>1188453MAKE IT STOP
Planning on picking this game up any resources for new players?
>>1189182see:>>1110107 >>1104042>>1093497>>871131Current notable banner units:>QuinaConsidered by many to be a must pull due to her broken BT effect, which causes the party to deal rainbow damage (max damage)>AerithConsidered by many to be a must pull due to her FR charging gimmick and a decent BT effectOther noteworthy (also characters that align more with what I would personally recommend):>ZackHe is literally unkillable with his BT effect up. I used him as a massive crutch when I was a noob clearing out the older permanent content. He also deals decent damage. I'd imagine he can solo most of the older content by now, provided you can deal with the Lufenia orbs that kill you when they pop>Cor (in a few days)Basically the perfect "3rd slot" character, in that he fits into any team. A perfect slot for on-turn strategy teams as well as a perfect slot for off-turn strategy teams. There is nowhere he doesn't belong, he makes the party more defensive as well as also making them more offensive. Very much a "universal" characterUnfortunately, you just missed Rubicante, who was probably *the* best character investment that this game has ever seen. This game is absurdly generous, and there are somewhere between 2-2.5 million gems in permanent content, and well over 10k tickets. In order to get it, though, you do need to go clear it out
>Fucking Bhunivelze for D2D>No additional missions or event...Fuck me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGMDLDMe8NUThis stage might be where my Rubicante goes
>>1189389Celes solo still works here right?
>>1189472Nope. Just tried. Only got him to around 40% by the time her second FR ran out. There's no way I can improve things to deal more damage.
take the rubipill
Did the Zell/Freya cheese strat for for the first Dare to Defy. Did a Celes solo for the second one. Did the Quina/Ultimecia cheese strat for the third one. No clue what I'll do for the Balthier 6 man or the other GL exclusive fight (which I'm assuming will be ultra Cloud of Darkness). I still have Rubicante so maybe he'll be able to solo one of those stages.
>>1188361>>1188453Looking at this makes me wonder just what the hell are they going to do with Layle and Keiss, those two have been in the shitter since Cid Raines debut and Selphie's LD debut.Hell, what are they going to do with Selphie when her turn for BTFR comes?
>that turn countEh, at least I did it
Anybody pulling for the WoFF Twins or Balthier tomorrow?
>>1190923Ouside of free draws and multi-tuckets? Not me, Quina fucking obliterated my resources (and still didn't get her BT...) so no pulling for me for the coming months.If you can though, you should the Balthier has good utility (if a bit niche) and his damage with BT effect up is really good and the Twins can give an obscene amount of HP limit up to the party with their BT and FR Time effects and their own damage is pretty solid too, so it's a pretty good banner to invest on.
I keep hoping that someday they will make my cute wife Tama playable, but I suppose it is not to be. Maybe if they announce WoFF 2.
So if there's two GLEX fights and the 1st one was Bhunivelze, that means the 2nd one is gonna be Hell House or the Cid Raines tree, right? Any other recent bitch ass fights like these that I'm forgetting? They already did the DET13 heads which is the only other one I can remember complaints about>>1190923I'm hoping for Balthier's BT on the free pulls, but not going to go for it, and I already have his FR. I get everyone's FR, and Twin's is one of the scant few LDs I'm still missing, so I'll use a few hundred tickets if I mustDestroth posted a video recently that I skipped around and looked at rather than watched, but it seems as though Balthier is one of the top damage dealing units in the FE30 era. If the OO gods bless me and I manage to score his BT for free, I'll probably dismantle something so that I can full invest him and give him a 5/5 Gun. I've been super burnt out on OO ever since the anniversary events, and I'm a hoarder with a shit ton of resources, and Balthier is a /fa/ motherfucker, so I wouldn't mind going out on a limb by maxing him out and hoping that he might breathe some life into the game for me
>>1191072I've seen a lot of speculation that the second GL exclusive will be a redo of the Cloud of Darkness 6 man fight, just with more HP.
>>1191353>two 6-man fights in one eventI really liked the CoD fight, but I hope not
>>1191072>>1191353People pattern fagged that it will be DET 12 since it was Seymour but I'll second the Hellhouse or Round 10 of that Ultima boss that needs weakness 10 times or it full heals. Hellhouse wasn't that bad but I only have a damage dealer for Shiva or Hellhouse, not both. I might be able to do Ultima but only if the hp doesn't double yet again it will.
>>1191496DE12 wouldn't be so bad. I solo'd it with Celes back in the day. I imagine you could solo it or two-man it with Rubicante.
I've been maxed on tickets since whenever the last time we got them was, so I threw 500 tickets at the Balthier banner to try to get the BT for free, (and just so that I could feel something) but the OO gods did not grace me with their divine luckIt is their will for the game to remain stale for me
>2 hours into Quinamecia cheese>robots are only at 55%Never doing this shit again.
Who are people using for the Dar3 to D3fy stage? I see it's only 3 characters, so I assume they reduced the boss health by a significant amount?
>>1191780Just started my run. Took Exdeath along for the 3rd since they don't heal True Damage. I wish I had Iroha or D.Cecil's BTs, since I think those provide more True Damage than Exdeath does. He only hits for like 85k per enemy per turn.
>>1191802Oh wow, it's a good thing I checked. Apparently at 29% they buffed themselves and started regain more healing every turn that I was dealing. Ultimecia was hitting for 700k and they were healing for 1.2 million. They ended up getting back up to 37%. I swapped Balthier to dispel, had Quina and Exdeath take a turn, and then swapped Balthier back out for Ultimecia and set her back to Auto+.
>>1191802And finished. That took 2 hours and 26 minutes.
>>1191864You could also occupy their slots with debuffs, unless they changed ithttps://youtu.be/P0RSozpzgW8
>MaintenanceWhat the fug
>>1192210It was announced a couple of weeks ago they'd be doing maintenance on the SQEX bridge
>Use Balthier's FR after the boss actives their Force time>doesnt fucking work because the bosses had no buffs, and my team had no debuffs at the timeI fucking hate this game sometimes, man.
>scrounged up enough gems to pity Quina's BTThank goodness I still have plenty of free gems to get. Now I have to build up my gems again. Good thing there's nothing I want to pull for in the near future.
>>1192306Your Cor bro?
This fight really makes me wish we got a unit with a debuff/aura that cancels enemy healing, or reduces it. Holy fuck.
Im about 2 hours in on the 6man bosses, and they'r all just under 50%. See you guys on the other side
Any way to deal with the last 1% shield in 6man5? I threw everything with 999% in the last 4 turns. Those shits are still alive, and I think you can't even dispel those shields.
Whats the general opinion on Cor's upcoming BT? Is it a big/needed upgrade for him?
>>1192899He's one of the few characters who doesn't need his BT. But it allows him to maximize his off-turn damage by increasing the party's damage while also putting his premptive-buff up on both other party members. So when enemies do All attacks he'll get to hit them 3 times. It's a fairly big upgrade and if you plan to use him a lot, it's better to have it than not.
>>1192546I think you really just have to keep hitting them until the shields run out. I had a team with Quina and Rubi just blasting them with counters, but they weren't doing any actual BRV damage because of the fire absorption, so while the HP shields were melted with Quina's BT, I had to spend at least 10 turns to shave off the BRV shields by replacing Quina and Rubicante with Seven and Squall.
>>1193112How many times do the enemies put up their shields? I lost count how many times I broke it, but they still keep going putting shields back up. From what I read says 9 stacks of shields, but doesn't feel like it.
>>1192899Like most BTs, it is not needed, but it is an upgrade. You're essentially doubling your preempts outside of someone's BT phase, and you could be as much as doubling your preempts before enemy turns as well. Cor's so good though that he only needs Echo to be brought up to speed
>>1193139I wasn't really counting either, I kept beating them for quite a while but 9 times sounds about right, I recommend checking some youtube runs on that fight to be sure.
>>1193406Yep, I forced my way with Squall to clear it. My biggest mistake is that their shields absorb elemental damage.
I have been filtered by Dare 4. Tried it with tons of teams but I keep getting fucked by that bullshit paralyze.
>>1194314The paralyze can be dodged or eluded unlike the other debuffs. Or you could flood everyone with framed buffs.
>>1194314Aerith can block it and Mog can counter it
>have to do this garbage ass Shinryu 3 times>once for the stage>once for the D3D>once for the ShinryuYeah, this sucks.
>>1194643Yeah, I'm not a fan either. I'm probably not going to do the co-op one. I didn't do the previous Shinryu co-op either. I think Mog's was the only one I've done so far, I just don't have the mental fortitude to do the same fight that many times
will this kusoge ever have rikku
>>1195100Who? If she isn’t a dead/killed off screen total NPC, her chances are 0%
>>1191496>People pattern fagged that it will be DET 12 since it was SeymourThe pattern fags were right :(I wanna know where the fuck the Celes banner is because I'm still looking for her full Sphere and I don't want to waste EX tokens on it if it's coming up soon. I only really want to waste those things on stuff that's like 6 months until the next rerun
>>1195100Rikku angeal and amarant forever in datamine hell
Well i finished the LC Shinryu and the coop. Fortunately the first room I hosted beat it. I really dont want to do the D2D level, and i really dont like D2D events. That is all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHOzaF5zryIyo dawg, i herd you liek hanakana
>>1195323I was wondering if Angeal would have been released around the time of the CC remake, but nope.Maybe we'll get him and Genesis around the time Rebirth is released.
Good fucking luck with tonight's bullshit everyone.
Reminder to any newfriends, even if you don't want Seymour or Rydia, you definitely do want their calls. Altema is bullshit, but they have been at 85 on Altema literally forever due to their callsI have no proof that it's due to their calls, but since it's the same rating that Raijin has, and since Rydia, Raijin, and Seymour are all definitely "staple" calls, I am forced to make the assumption that they are here for their call utility mostlytl;dr - get the LDs for Seymour and Rydia
Nice. For a minute there I thought I was going to have to waste my last few echo characters.
>>1196523I'm trying to get Seymour's LD but my ticket luck has been absolutely abysmal every other banner.
>the same exact fight from 6 months ago>except now it has literally 3x the HP as before>or, technically, 3x3 the HP as before, since it's more than a flat 3x, considering it's 3 enemiesGonna be honest, bros, I'm getting tired of this game
I just realized that I can green 21 of the 30+ BTs that I have, and still I am hesitant about greening even one of them. I looked at a calendar, and even if I'm super greedy, I only want 1 or 2 BTs per month, meaning that I can very freely green anything I want... and still I am hesitant about greening even one BT
The desire censor is real. This is probably the luckiest I've ever been, and it is also probably the banner where I've wanted stuff the least. The FR cost me 450 tickets though. Also spent 5k gems to get an EX book. I still have EXs I need to MLB and the free 80 G tokens is too juicy
How does this fight work? Battle starts, all of my team members are first on the turn order, but the bosses immediately petrify two of them before I can take any turns or do anything.
>>1198275https://www.dissidiacompendium.com/bestiary/enemies/3869/400?That's just how it works, and it bypasses debuff evasion too, but maybe the thresholds can be evaded with something like Rydia? Not sure
>>1198303The debuff itself cannot be evaded, but the boss will only inflict it if the BRV attack hits which can be evaded, that's why Rydia call is very popular for this.
Thank fuck that's over. At least until D4re to Defy starts in the next 3 months.
>>1198456I truly expect there to be a Crevasse announced, probably not during this stream since D3D still extends into next month, but very likely the stream after that. This would also coincide with Astos being released, which would be a perfect excuse to try to get people to pull for and max out more stuff than they would have otherwise, due to Astos blowing it all up
>>1198484>I truly expect there to be a Crevasse announcedWe will get JP's Crevasse at the end of July with Auron's BT. I don't think they'll cram one in June.>>1198456This one was straight awful. The hard bosses were fine but the ones that they just added hp bloat to, like Cor and the GL reruns killed my enjoyment.
>>1198669>We will get JP's Crevasse at the end of July with Auron's BT. I don't think they'll cram one in June.Ah, I didn't realize there was a JP Crevasse, I just expected there to be one due to there being another Dare to Defy so soon
Well, that was definitely something. The only one of these fights that I enjoyed was the 6 man. That seems to be the trend for me, I'm only really enjoying the 6 man fights nowadays, and I don't even use 6 characters for them. The DET12 fight was alright too, since I had an excuse to use Minwu and Galuf. The GLEX fights were a lot less bullshit than they could have been, but the Spiritus felt like a GLEX fight, so I guess it evens outTotal "Out of Pocket Cost" for me:>Tifa -> Green/Blue, ~25k EP>Raines -> Green/Blue, ~25k EP>Quina -> Green/Blue, ~25k EP>Balthier -> Green/Blue, ~25k EP>Sherlotta -> Green/Blue, 12 HPS5 Green/Blues, 100k Enhancement Points, and technically 8 HPSI did at least get to use all of my favorite and/or most used character though, except Zack, so that's cool at least. I was kinda impressed by Balthier, but it was his own fight so I guess that's to be expected. Also, Tifa really impressed me. I probably should have been using her since last year, but this was the first time I actually did. She was still hitting for almost 4 million even outside of Force Time with her BT effect upI can't wait for when the Crevasse codes are inevitably missing Fist weapons and Yellow crystals!
Glad I was able to cheese the Balthier fight. I tried to do it legit a couple of times and couldn't get through it.
>>1198669>We will get JP's Crevasse at the end of July with Auron's BT. I don't think they'll cram one in June.I just realized this this is actually what I said anyway. Not this month's stream (June) because D3D extends into June, but the next month (July). That's exactly what I said
started playing a little over a month ago should i be rolling for Lunafreya or Edgar right now?
>>1199185At least try to get Luna's LD. She is one of THE support calls to have, and is one of the better support units in general when put on the field if you get the rest of her kit.
>>1199185As the other anon said, Luna LD if pretty useful, though I'd argue nowadays not as much. With FR Echos, you can basically use your team's Echo abilities to function in much the same way as Luna's LD used to be used. I only used her LD a handful of times myself, only to drive Rinoa's FRBT when she came out, which I also only used a small handful of times, and I made it through Shinryu just fine. Never used Luna as a unit either. It's better to have her LD than not to have it, but at this point, I don't believe it's "necessary" anymore. If you are in a situation where the current Spiritus fight is doable for you, then you will most likely need Edgar LD to actually beat it, because I don't think you've had an opportunity to pull for most of the otherwise required calls. Even if you can't finish the Spiritus fight or don't pull for Edgar, getting D or C rank on the fight should be very doable for you (pause fight and "report"), and that will provide the best of the rewards, so I highly recommend doing that if you haven't alreadyI don't know what you currently have, but as far as upcoming units I'd recommend for newbies:>RemHer BT effect gives Zack style immortality to your entire team, and it heals them to full when it wears off>IrisGod tier support, gauge charger, BT effect reduces enemy BRV to 0, keeping you very safe and enabling break shenanigans as well>Auron / BeatrixIf you missed out on Rubicante, I feel like Auron is a decent alternative. Same with Beatrix. She might show up soon with her FR, but by the time her BT comes around later, you should be at a point where you can judge for yourself if you "need" her>AstosGod tier on-turn DPS, pretty much unrivaled damage potential>SetzerIf you don't have Sherlotta and/or Quina, then Setzer probably becomes a must-pull for you, for when stages fuck over BRV damage or BRV gains>CorIf you didn't get him already, then you should at least get all his gear up to his FR. You can skip the BT if you want
>>1199185What >>1199214 and >>1199236said. Luna herself has largely been powercrept as an actual party member but her ld call is absolutely mandatory for a lot of broken setups. Edgar himself is a good debuffer and dps support with an easy to fulfill fr condition. He fills a niche where he can make the enemy weak to damage types (melee, ranged, magic) which not many characters can do. But outside of the current shinryu where it's required, it's not as useful as it sounds. He's not the worst character you could go all in for but there are much better characters on the horizon.
>>1199214>>1199236>>1199246thanks for the infothese are the current 6 characters I have built up Squall is missing his FR and BT and Jack Garland is missing his BT i have his FR but havent limit broke it yet
>>1199249Not bad at all, that should get you through alot of content, even some recent hard stuff. Cor definitely has good synergy with Rubi for nonstop off-turn attacks if you want to pull for him. Max out Aerith's enhancement level since she'll be your fast gauge charger. DPS units only really need to get up to level 20 when your on a budget, but support characters get the most out of level 30.Yeah just keep building up your roster bit by bit as banners release.
>>1199249You have Rubicante and Quina (and Aerith) so you're pretty much set for life. You're going to want to pick up some on-turn DPS eventually (like Astos) but you started at exactly the right time with regards to account power "investments". If I were you, I'd work on farming Ultima cores so that you can make a Fist UW for Rubicante. I think you have to clear the first Dimension's End (Pathos?) in order to unlock that, but it's really easy, you should be able to do it with your current units. Then you can work on clearing old Lufenia fights, and you can probably carry most of the units through most of the Lufenia fights so that you can start getting Ultima Cores for your UWYou can probably just coast along as you are now, only really pulling if you are interested in a unit. This is still most of a "wide" roster game, so you'll want to be pulling more eventually, but you have some of the hardest carry units so you can probably take it easier. If you pick up an Eiko LD call on Ursula's banner in a month or so, you can even start using solo Rubicante to carry bronze units through the Shinryu, reviving them at the end of itI'd still recommend that you pick up Cor's kit all the way up to his FR. You can skip the BT, but Cor is such a fucking power house unit that is universally good in any sort of party composition. He's so good that his BT doesn't even really do that much for him, and Galuf is also a good pickup as a unit that only has his LD. Rydia and Seymour's LD calls are also very nice to have. The Rydia and Raijin calls are pretty key in bypassing threshold mechanics
>>1199185This anon lists the big characters coming out soon. If you don't have Cor yet, I'd seriously recommend picking him up. He's fantastic and can slot into pretty much any sort of comp, whether off-turn or rush down strategies. If you don't really know who to use, Cor is probably the easiest character to just drop into any team. Other than that we're not really getting anyone huge until Iris. I'd definitely recommend picking her and Astos up no matter what. They're both insanely powerful with absurd longevity and you'll see people using them to clear content for months. Even right now the two of them are putting out the biggest numbers in JP and that's almost a half year after they came out.
Damn. Looks like I somehow missed 5 BT ingots. I was sure I'd been fully clearing every shop and event, but somehow I only have 15.
>>1199236>just noticed the end of the scheduleAre they putting characters with FR/BT already as second ringers on banners now? I see that CoD/Neon on Sehl'theus and that's the first time I've seen that.
>>1199308They're on the banners but only have their kits up to the LD. No FR/BT.
came back to DFFOO couple days ago can i clear any of the shinryu content with these guys?
>>1199595Jack probably won't cut it anymore but the other two look good.
>Deal BRV damage to boss while they have all 3 weapon weaknesses to reduce the aura>boss has all 3 weaknesses set>everyone is landing BRV damage higher than 0>aura doesnt go down>only Edgars moves lowers it once>team wipe instakill move next turnGoooooooooooooooooooooooooood
>>1199645If you take an action while having a stacking buff (or overhead) that is 5 stacks or more, the boss aura goes up one, so if you're doing weakness damage while at 5 stacks of Cor or Quina's overhead, for example, the aura will not decrease
>>1199650>despite being one of the boosted units for the fight, he can completely ruin your run half way inThats just dirty. Anyway thanks for the tip, beat it after 6 attempts with a different team.
>>1199236It seems we're a bit ahead of the curve with the forecast. I wonder if this means we're gonna get another GLB-first anything in August like Cor.
>>1199898>we're a bit ahead of the curve with the forecastThe first event depicted in these forecast always occurs at the end of the previous month. It has happened this way for as long as people have been making these forecasts. We aren't ahead of anything, as far as I am aware, and actually the Celes/Beatrix banner has not shown up yet
is lunafreya's BT worth spinning for or should i just get everything up to FR?
>>1200088Honestly, Lunafreya is outdated at this point. Lunafreya is the single unit that has cost me the most gems in this game. I basically had to double pity her. I've never used her BT, and I think I only used her FR one time way back in the beginning of Shinryu. Her BT is not worth it, and her FR is not worth it. She didn't even get FR Echo, which is something that is growing to be more and more "required". At this point, especially for a newbie, I would not invest in any FR unless it has Echo, or unless it is insanely busted. For example, I used Ryda and Minwu's FRs recently in D3D stages. Lunafreya's FR is not busted, so it's kinda not even worth it to have itThe most "must have" part of Luna's kit at this point (and at any point) would be her LD. If you get anything, get her LD. I've used her LD a handful of times, and it's useful to have, but is not necessary. Especially now, as I said in a previous post, you can basically use your party's FR Echos as a set up in much the same way we were previous using Luna's call to set up for the FRBT character. Luna's LD call was useful because it let you set up someone's BT+ effect, their FR, and then go straight into their BT phase, all without passing the turn, and while guaranteeing you can get an entire BT phase inside Force Time (and ending with Summon, if you wanted). Nowadays, you can accomplish this same effect by pressing your party member's FR Echo buttonsLuna's other effect, her prayers, is something I've never needed, but it could be considered to be power crept by Paine's BT. It's not necessary to have Paine's BT, but if you do have it, then I feel like Luna loses considerable value, and that at this point her value already was not very high
>>1200095thanks for helping me save my gems from using them on her, gonna spend them on Cor since i dont have anything for him currently
>>1200034You say that but the stream just confirmed us by the end of June we'll have both the entire next chapter and Shantotto's IW.
>>1200145>You say that butI mean, I didn't say anything false. It's always this "ahead" of schedule. Always. The first event listed for the month on these timelines always happens at the end of the previous month. It's not until the 2nd event listed in these that it actually begins within the month it is listed. If anything, the thing that you said wont actually be correct until the end of next month. You said something that seems to be true, but you said it before it became true. The thing you said only became true with the stream, it was not true based on any knowledge that was available at the time that you said it. If you want me to concede or whatever, I will, but I didn't say anything incorrect. It's always been this way, the 1st banner listed on these always begins in the previous month, and it's not until the 2nd banner that it actually begins within the month it is listed. The first time we will be "ahead" will be next month. If I'm allowed to be optimistic, we might be ahead, in this upcoming month only, so as to facilitate a simultaneous GL/JP release of a XVI unitFor example, Ursula's Lost Chapter began on August 1st. Iroha's Intersecting Wills began on September 4th. Lluyd's Lost Chapter began on October 2nd. Enna Kros Lost Chapter began on December 4th. Beatrix Intersecting Will began January 2nd. Act 3 Ch11.2 began January 10th, Machina Intersecting Will began January 19th, and Sice Lost Chapter began Febuary 8th. WoL Intersecting Will began March 12th. Mog's Intersecting Will began April 10th. Act 4 Ch1.2 began on May 1st. (The Celes/Beatrix banner seems like it's not happening and was instead replaced with the Seymour/Rydia one)
>JP not getting a new character for May>GL schedule somewhat sped upEoS concern, or simultaneous XVI character release?
>>1200393Not the first month there hasn't been a new character in JP. I'm not too worried.
..... Reks is a boy? That portrait art is misleading as fuck.
>>1200785Vaan's older brother.
The 35 turn count spooked me a bit, but it was nothing to be worried about
how are your guys summons going on the reks banner? any FR's or BT's?
>>1200393Yeah, i get the idea Clive is gonna be released simultaneously for cross-promotion.
>>1201026They'd basically have to make 2 different Clive kits, though, because a character made for current JP would be absolutely broken beyond belief here. I don't think it's Clive but it could be a GL first in general.
>tfw no motivation to do dare to defy 3fug
>>1200989bwo your gems...
>>1201147You're not the only one, brother. Still not feeling it.
>>1201147I was ready to bail when they brought in Bhunivelze with double the hp. This shit was aimed at youtubers and not real players.
>>1201147>did the first two, was really hard but felt good about myself>suddenly Bhunivelze but worse (I haven't even cleared base Bhunivelze Shinryu)I noped out of that shit right then, fuck this. 5k crystals and a sticker I'm never gonna use isn't worth this.
>>1200989I got the FR on the free multi, but I had to use 200 tickets for the LD>>1201279>This shit was aimed at youtubers and not real players.That's how I felt about the first Dare to Defy, back when it asked you to either spend 1 hour per fight, or to pull for and max out FRs that were known to be objectively bad, with resources that were, at the time, exceedingly scarce. I refused to do it, and it left a sour taste it my mouth. I boycotted Shinryu until Cor after thatCompare that to now, where basically every unit after Rubicante has been top tier, and we've had an entire era to save up HPS. I think that anyone who started at the anniversary should probably be able to complete D3D, as long as they have been clearing permanent content. Based on characters available alone, I think that even people who started at Rubicante would be able to clear this D3D, but they would probably run into issues with HPS, BT materials, and Enhancement Points as their limiting factorI think D3D is completely manageable as a "real player". The only bullshit fight is the Spiritus. The GLEX fights aren't even bad this time around. You can solo Bhunivelze with Rubicante, and the DET12 rerun is so much of a joke that I cleared it with Minwu and Galuf. I will say, however, that I think D2D was the perfect sweet spot. Tons of banner units able to solo their own easy fights (and others), while also having a Spiritus, a DET, and a bullshit GLEX fight thrown in for good measure
>>1201147This D3D had a bunch of cheese and solo options. Zell for the first one, Celes and Rubicante could each solo several stages, Quina + Ultimecia could auto+ through another one. I think I only had to legitimately clear 3 of the 7 fights.
>>1201302>I think D3D is completely manageable as a "real player"."manageable" sure. Fun, absolutely not. This is lockout content, not every boss needs to be a raid built around Aerith, Tifa, Raines, Rubicante and Quina with a force charger because you are not going to have them on every single fight.While there are strong recent characters there just aren't enough at the start of the echo era to make things personable and interesting. Looking at the usual places of engagement, most of the lists are the same, using the same 4 hour cheese and the same solos and the same combos with exact turn orders because the fights are so specific and because the inflation makes any experimentation a tremendous time sink. Or people just didn't do it at all, the clears for this were very sparse compared to other similar events.Then you have Shiva at the end which is fair for permanent content but too needy for a week deadline. If someone cannot do Shiva then they wasted an entire month. If someone waited to do Shiva then they have a week to cram all the other bullshit. If the GLEX fights "aren't even bad" then they don't need to waste my time with twice the padding. I enjoy team building and towers and I don't care what your eceleb boyfriend says, this event was trash. They are maybe 1 for 3 on this lazy ass format and it's time to take it behind the barn.
I wished they would have just split the gem rewards between each clear, rather than "lol gotta perfect ALL 7 LEVELS to get one multi of gems". At least than i would've cleared some of them and cashed out.Also the "refight this boss you literally just beat a second time (a third time even thanks to coop)" is just really pointless.
>>1201342For reference, this is my clear: >>1198755I did use all of the characters that you mentioned (except Aerith), but the only Force Chargers I used were Rubicante and Sherlotta>While there are strong recent characters there just aren't enough at the start of the echo era to make things personable and interestingI'm happy that I was able to clear with all of my favorite characters to use. Rydia, Minwu, Cor, Galuf, Rubicante, Celes. I was able to use them all. I was saving another favorite, Zack, for Shiva, but that fight ended up being a lot more bullshit than I thought it would be, so I green'd Raines for that fight instead. I probably could have squeezed other characters I like to use in somewhere, like Sice, Beatrix, or Dorgann. I'm happy with the characters that I was able to use to complete this, just like I was with D2D. Although I prefer Crevasse as an event, the last one punished me and my roster for my favorites not being the correct crystal color and/or weapon type, which did not feel good at all. I had no such troubles with either D2D or D3D even though I think they're worse events>I enjoy team building and towers and I don't care what your eceleb boyfriend says, this event was trash>eceleb boyfriendlol what? Is this a serious comment? I thought your post was serious but now I'm not sure. Anyway, like the other anon said, there are multiple cheese strats available (even YdaRoth), and solos using characters that literally everyone pulled for. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to do it, but I think it's a bit ridiculous to say that it's "aimed at youtubers and not real players". The good thing is that just like the very first Dare to Defy, the rewards are barely anything, so you're not really missing out if you don't do it. I probably would have skipped it myself, but they put a status badge behind it, and I'm a sucker for cosmetics as a reward
>>1201147Same but throw in 4 too, only fights I haven't bothered to do.
Waited until Shiva Spiritus to start the event because I knew it would be hell if I used any of the key characters early.I copy-pasted someone else's team and strategy and I'm not ashamed in the slightest. Bhunivelze was the real wall for this event, I don't really like doing solos, but Bhunivelze was asking for a spanking that only Rubicante could provide.Rydia destroyed the 6 man fight, which made me feel stupid for not using her in the actual 6 man event, that's the problem with having too many characters, you always end up neglecting some units just because they're old when they're still as good as ever. Same with Jack, his BT effect is actually really fucking strong outside of FT.The rest was much smoother in comparison. Quina and Dorgann is a 10/10 combo.All in all, I had to spend some EP on Balthier and Edgar's Force passives which I wasn't really planning to but I'll live.
I hate it how close I have been to not complete the last bosses/missions but I still end up wasting hours of my life trying to beat everything.I gave up buying the mog pass maybe 1 year ago and I'm always struggling with enhancement points now, after maxing everyone out before Force weapons were a thing since I had so many points.Game is either "press button to win" or "follow this exact strategy or you're dead".
>>1202125>I gave up buying the mog pass maybe 1 year ago and I'm always struggling with enhancement points nowI feel like a lot of people just Force Enhance everything. You know that you don't need to do that, right? Especially if you're f2p, you shouldn't Force Enhance anything unless end up using that unit a lot. I'm f2p, and I went into Shinryu with only 6k Enhancement Points, and I currently have 350k even after spending >100k on this D3D. I did save my Premium Mogpass for Shinryu, but even if you subtract those ~200k points, I'd still be sitting at 150k as a completely f2p player, or 250k if I had skipped (or had more patience with) D3D. You don't need to Force Enhance everything, and you only need 2350 Enhancement Points to make an FR Echo character perfectly useable, all the way from zero. Even as a f2p, you get enough points every event to put 2350 points into the Echo character and still come out positive, and that's assuming that you're starting at 0. If you already got the important LD nodes, then you only need 800 points to get to the Echo, and you don't need to Force Enhance them at allI don't agree with the other thing you said either, but arguing against that is useless if you've already decided that you think that
I no longer have enough disk space to instal this gamefeels bad
So how important is Rem, actually? If I'm pulling for her at all it's for meta, because I don't really like anyone from Type-0, and I've heard some conflicting thoughts about how long she stays good. Not to mention I'm sitting on about 200k crystals right now and Iris in the future is a must-pull for me because of meta. I do have 50+ BT tokens so I could just ticket the rest of her kit if I use them, but again, I don't know how important she is in the future. I know what she does, for the record, but I'm mostly just asking about longevity.
>>1202584I don't think she's meta defining the same way Rubicante, Quina, Iris, or Astos are. I think her party wide immortality BT effect could be really nice for newbies to crutch on for older content, but at this point they could probably just blow fights up with an FR anywayIt's probably really nice for people who either already like Rem, they like her turn swap gimmick, or they want to pair her with someone that wants to spam their EX. Otherwise, I think she's just a generally good support, about on par with the general power level that units tend to be nowadays, not counting Edgar, kek
>>1202584Looking on Altema she's okay but doesn't hold up the way any of the hyper meta characters do.
>>1202660>>1202677Well that's promising, that means I can skip her without any worry of "man I wish I had Rem", thanks bros, continue saving for Iris it is
>>1202677>Altema>where Tifa has the same rating (50) as Kefka, Steiner, Y'shtola, and Kuja, among many others>where a unit can be 90+ one week, and then immediately drop to 70 after their banner ends>where the "85" rating seems to solely belong to units based on their LD calls, despite no note of this being made anywhere>where Rubicante and Kelgar, units who are capable of soloing almost all of the content in the game, are given lower ratings than Astos, who does insane damage but is not soloing stages
>>1202004I always start doing these events on the last few available days but I finished this one earlier since I knew VII would be a bitch.While this DtD already has some of the worst individual fights in Defy history I can't help but feel they went easy on us. If it had started one event earlier it would have included that ridiculous Hell House fight to make it impossible to choose where to park my Aerith much like it was hard to choose where to park my Tifa and Rubicante.
>>1202707I could take Hellhouse over Shiva easily.