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List of characters (including JP): https://phrygian-tuesday-3c6.notion.site/2dd50eb0e188493fbecee1f55b8691c2?v=b41cb236e9bc4a7686380dd295153e9f
And another one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaE2sVQMbNgz384x4P0CovOwbpVBXSPK3gqWeniCpO0/edit#gid=80885484
Database: https://meowdb.com/db/octopath-traveler-cotc/
List of resources and materials: http://convento.net/otcotc/materials.php

When's Nier

>>1132982
No one knows, the devs and community managers haven't even breathed about it. I'm onl at 4200 rubies which is 1800 shy of what I need to guarantee A2 and 2B, so hopefully there's at least a bit more time.

On an unrelated note, the next big thing I wanna tackle in this game is Gertrude. Can anyone give me some team advice? My five stars are
>Fiore, Kouren, Tikilen, Eliza, Edea, Lionel
>Gilderoy, Tressa, Cardona
>Viola, Heathcote, Therion, Ri'tu, Nicola
>Theo, Lumis
>Scarecrow, H'aanit, Z'aanta, Jillmeila
>Agnes
>Sophia, Therese, Odette, Elvis, Varkyn, Cyrus
>Lynette, Hasumi, Glossom

>>1133015
I can try.

Gertrude‘a weaknesses are Dagger, Axe and Fire. The good thing is she’ll be fighting you alone. The bad thing is, she’s a fucking monster. Even worse is her gimmick, Shieldguard. Basically, any multi-hit attacks will only break one shield points. You’ll want to keep Gertrude’s attack down and your defense up. You’ll also want to pray to the RNG gods that she doesn’t hit the same person two or three times a row.

Oh yeah, and she is an apothecary so she does have one attack heals her after she uses it.

>Almost done with my first storyline
>No Apothecaries
>Just have a little over 1k rubies
I've only used the free tickets so far but being completely incapable of hitting a weakness type is really unfortunate.

>>1133020
Okay, so it sounds like I need to cap phys atk down and phys def up. Nuking her attack is simply a matter of bringing Viola and Therion, so that's easy. But to cap my phys def I'd need to bring Glossom along with Hasumi, and Glossom's not getting higher than level 80 for now because his fight is the hardest arena fight for me to farm because of my poor dark options (first clear took forever). But idk, maybe he can survive at level 80 with the new armor that came out. So I'm thinking something like:
Viola, Therion, Cyrus, Lynette, Hasumi, Glossom, Lumis, Theo.

Wait! I just looked at a video and it seems her second weakness is bow, not axe. That changes things, as I have a lot of hunters. Ah, but I really should still bring an axe user for regen. So then maybe my team should be
Viola, Therion, Cyrus, Lynette, Hasumi, Glossom, Z'aanta, Theo?

The video I'm watching is for a 3.5 minute reliable farming clear of Gertrude:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6-b639OJxY&ab_channel=chazhang
But I don't have Alfyn.

Alright. Around 11pm EST, we usually get an announcement tonight. Place your bets as to who it’s gonna be!

>>1133056
Three dancers is too much. In an almost physical party against a physical opponent, Glossom can give you all the buffs/debuffs you need completely on his own (if we could make him A2, he would provide -30% Pdef down debuff in addition to +30% Pdef and Patk buffs and -15/20 Pdef down debuff, which would make Viola/Therion's job a bit easier). He is also quite self-sustainable.
Anyway, I would seriously consider before taking Lynette and Cyrus. They are the only mages on your team. They are both excellent units and hit the right weakneses, but they don't fit into the rest of the composition. Lynette and Viola can give Cyrus all the setup he needs (-30% Mdef down, -30% fire resistance down, +30% Matk up plus Lynette's ultimate and 10% passive), but it requires serious calculation and memorization of patterns. Gertrude may not give you that luxury on your first try.
Gertrude also has a one-shot attack (basically), so you'll want to take as many characters as possible that move faster than her, and Cyrus isn't one of them.
Better bring more Thieves and Jillmeila along.
Jillmeila doesn't need anything other than bleed for high damage, and some Thieves can provide a useful speed down debuff. For example, Ri'tu knows how to tie legs. For tactical advantage, of course. Nicola and Wingate can also lower Gertrude's speed. Speaking of which, both are supreme backpacks.
Although you don't have to worry. Or read all of this. You have Therion and he is an absolute beast in this fight. Just slap him somewhere in the party and he'll do it.

>>1133114
Simultaneous jp/global OT2 character release starting with Castti who powercreeps Rinyuu and has a fat axe nuke that scales higher the more debuffs an enemy has.

>>1133124
>Gertrude also has a one-shot attack (basically), so you'll want to take as many characters as possible that move faster than her, and Cyrus isn't one of them.
Even with A1 and the extra +30% speed it gives? I noticed his turn order went up significantly after that happened, pulling ahead of some enemies and even his own allies.
I just got Jillmeila up to 5* with the login cookie so she's underleveled; guess I'll feed her some nuts.
>and some Thieves can provide a useful speed down debuff. For example, Ri'tu knows how to tie legs. For tactical advantage, of course. Nicola and Wingate can also lower Gertrude's speed.
Is Gertrude so blazing fast that she needs those speed debuffs on her? I figured a bruiser apothecary like her would be on the slow side.
So then, Viola (A1) and Therion are locks, Jillmeila and Z'aanta have the best physical damage. Glossom and Hasumi (A2) will keep me alive, though leaning on Hasumi's heals as my sole source sounds risky if I don't bring Theo (underleveled and waiting on the apothecary cookie) or Agnes (A2). Last 2 slots could be Lynette (A1, maxed ultimate) and Cyrus. Lynette helps everyone so she seems like a lock. If I didn't bring Cyrus then I guess I would bring either an apothecary or Nicola.

>>1133015
> I'm only at 4200 rubies
>tfw at 360 rubies and almost done with most content.

>>1133146
Have you done the arena cups? There's a load of rubies in there.

>>1133138
When she joins your band, she will be slow. But as an arena champion, she has a permanent speed up buff. She can also slow down your characters with two different attacks. Which makes her surprisingly fast.
Well then, if you're intended to take Lynette, there's no point in not taking Cyrus as well.
It also makes sense to replace Theo with Agnes simply because she relieves stress from three different characters and can revive on top of that. While Theo is just more durable. As a 4.5* maybe he's not, though.

>>1133187
He'll be 5 star very soon but yeah, Agnes has burst heal too if it's needed, and even Haste or Protect. Didn't know about those speed debuffs, now it makes sense. Gonna wait until I get more of the latest armor to protect myself before trying, thanks for the advice!

>>1133182
Yes, i just have super bad luck with pulls i've had to pity a lot of characters.

Sex with Tressa.

>Wrath name change to Lars
Unironically, why?

>Wrath is paid step up
>Falco is free step
Kek. I guess they're making popular characters paid, since Falco is a pretty good unit for dagger comps. Anyways, no Cecily so...sleep.

>>1133228
Sorry to hear bro. I think the only character I've had to pity was Cyrus and that took everything I had plus the one time I spent money to get a $15 pack with Google credit.
>>1133262
The fuck? I'm not liking this trend of global changing names for dumb reasons. Mooloo sounds like a pet? Seriously?
>>1133278
Two separate character step ups at the same time? I don't remember them doing this before. They've done two characters on the same banner a couple times, like Lumis/Stead and Olberic/Ophelia.

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>>1133299
Falco is coming next week.
There will also be class-specific step ups with free rubies, but uh, I wasn't really paying attention so I don't know when that will be and I'm too lazy to rewatch.
Also, next roadmap will be revealed on the next stream. Hopefully we will finally know what the ??? Is.

Just started last week and these are the characters that I have
Nanna, Kouren, Trish, Menny, Sigrid, Miles, Tahir, Yugo
Conny, Devin, Barrad, Caroll, Pia
Viola, Aslyte, Kurtz, Felline, Cless, Diego
Merrit, Rita
Camilla, Bertrand, Sunny, Scarecrow, Ashlan
Molrusso, Jose, Madelaine, Ramona, Cedric, Menno
Peredir, Noelle, Dorrie, Laura, Eunice, Julio
Meena, Fabio, Mabel, Manuel

Any advice on who to use/bench? I don't have any rubies after trying to get Soleil and failing on all 5 step ups.

>>1133278
Nothing to kek about. They will easily do another "fuck you" with Cecily or anyone from general pool. A2 is now almost guaranteed to have an Adelle-type banner.
Also
>Wrath
Rars.

>>1133306
Shove all your 5*s on your team for starters and then try to round out any elements or weapons you're missing. I'd suggest something like:

Kouren, Barrad, Viola, Scarecrow, Molrusso, Noelle (although you're doubling up on elements with Molrusso here, Noelle is among the most stacked 4*s in terms of utility and damage so I highly recommend her anyway), Mabel and Sigrid/Peredir.

Sigrid is also redundant in terms of filling out missing coverage, but she's among the better 4*s in general and Merrit isn't very good aside from providing passive regen to someone more useful so skipping out on axe coverage is fine until you pull someone better. Peredir is also a good option for the quality of life of automatically analyzing enemies and to provide fire coverage since Barrad doesn't really count. Cless is also a good option over any of the 4*s if anyone doesn't feel like a good fit as he has a 2x attack that always breaks shields, along with a handy debuff and good dagger damage

They should drop tapjoy and add a battle pass and way more free rubies in bundles

>>1133312
I have Molrusso, Mabel and Noelle at 4.5/3.5/3.5 respectively, would that change anything with their usage?

>>1133324
Molrusso still gets her job done even at 4.5*, but for 4*s it's definitely best to stick with ones that aren't stuck at 3.5*. Laura isn't half bad at lightning damage and is an adequate breaker for tome weak enemies so she makes a good replacement for Noelle if you've got her at 4*. 4* dancers are generally quite good until you find 5*s to replace their function so Meena and Fabio are both solid to replace Mabel. Cless again can fit in nicely to replace just about any 4* because he can always contribute to a fight.

>>1133333
It might be better for me to list the rarities that I have
5* - Viola, Kouren, Scarecrow
4* - Molrusso, Aslyte, Peredir, Camilla, Meena, Barrad, Sigrid, Tahir, Merrit, Rita, Cless, Madelaine, Ramona, Cedric, Ashlan, Devin, Pia
3* - Mabel, Noelle, Trish, Miles, Kurtz, Laura, Menno, Bertrand, Fabio, Nanna, Conny, Jose, Menny, Yugo

>>1133303
>job step ups
Fug. I have every thief but Adelle, so the thief one is an easy skip for me. But for dancers, I'm still missing Prim and Harley. And Prim is my most wanted character of the ones I'm missing. I NEED dark damage, and I need another Power ultimate and a dark ultimate at that. Shit, I don't know if it's worth it though. Even if she's in the pool, the guaranteed dancer on step 5 could easily be a fairly pointless Lynette or Hasumi for me.
>>1133308
>A2 is now almost guaranteed to have an Adelle-type banner.
After the massive outcry last time that made them restructure the other banners? I really hope not. Though making non-OG 8 permanent travelers have paid step ups is pretty worrying.
>>1133314
Battle passes in other games I play contain a skin for the paid monthly versions. This game doesn't have skins, but if it included a guaranteed 5 star traveler for 20 bucks, I'd gladly pay that as it's way better than the couple of 3 stars spending 20 bucks on this game's gacha would normally give you.

As a starting player, can you fuck up your short/mid term progression if you don't follow a guide or is it safe to treat it like a normal JRPG and go in blind?

>>1133570
>as a starting player, can you fuck up your short/mid term progression?
Nope, there is almost nothing to miss, remember three things so that later you will not have the slightest regret about them:
>be greedy about rubies, that's it
>completely clear the final boss castle: all chests, all elite enemies, all battle achievements; it will be closed after defeating the final boss, so you can miss the cool accessory and the achievement for defeating 100 enemies of a certain type
>some story related NPCs but they just give you garbage, if you do a Path Action on everything you see you won't miss them, if you miss them no value will be lost
Just remember to be greedy, really.
>>1133375
>after the massive outcry last time that made them restructure the other banners?
I guess they're just testing the ground right now and will keep a close eye on Rars' banner. If the expected profits exceed their lowest expectations and are not overwhelmed by reputation losses, they won't think twice about making another popular character paid.
And it's still baffling me
>what's your name, warrior? Why are you swinging your sword?
>I'm a vigilante, evil hunting evil, the name is Rars
>Mars, God of War? A truly formidable name suitable fo
>nope, Rars, it means fucking nothing, yoroshiku onegai shimasu

Do you do the first step on each step up banner or do you hoard and do all 5 on specific ones?
The ruby rate in this seems awfully slow.

>>1133742
The latter. I used to do the former when my roster was lacking and was missing a lot of the good 4*s, but now I don't need to do that anymore.

>>1133742
Ruby acquisition is definitely a bit of a slow trickle, but there is a very sizable amount of rubies locked up in feats that you'll unlock just by playing the game and you can get a pretty chunky influx of rubies from the arena and from challenging the battle tested NPCs and later still the level 100 NPCs. Many people advocate for hoarding rubies which probably is the smarter way but for me personally at least makes it a miserable experience. I've cleared all content out so far while being very frivolous with my ruby spending (though admittedly I have gotten very lucky with the sheer number of 5*s I've pulled) and while I wouldn't necessarily recommend that for everyone, I do think it's generally a good idea to be a bit more liberal with your rubies until you've at the very least pulled a solid foundation of 4*s and a handful of 5*s.

Ultimately the game is a slow burn and content isn't going anywhere so there really is no wrong way to spend your rubies.

What skill should I run as Viola's third while I wait for the stuff needed to awaken her? 3x Dagger, 2x Dagger AoE or the 2x Fire? I'm around Level 38 so I'm trying to bee line immediate impactful skills and the 5th board is sp intensive.

>>1133782
The debuffs (Anti-Attack and Debilitate) are all Viola needs, the third slot is for shield crack.

>>1133825
SP is a problem with her so I'll just take whatever shield crack is cheaper.

>>1132871
>dancers & thieves banner
Screw Lars
screw the other one
My mates are in desperate need of awakening stones especially Lynnte, she’s A0 since September for fuck sake.

>>1133946
Good luck bro. I wish I had the balls to pull for Prim.

Yeah. I’m gonna hold off on Lars.

If they’re gonna test the waters with Paid Banners, I wanna make sure their test fails. Especially if we’re gonna be hitting the Nier Banner and later Memory banners.

Funny thing though... while we’re expecting Falco to come in the Global release next week, Japan’s getting his lovely sister, Canary as their 7th Sacred Blaze character.

Suddenly I’m now interested in Falco.

(Definitely pulling for the Scholar Banner once it comes out though. I’m missing Milu and Cyrus. Maybe Ninalina will be out by then, who knows?)

So here’s what I heard about Yan Long, the latest Arena Champ:

Yan Long’s an Ice-type Cleric. Though he’s more of a staff-user than an ice-user. Now sure how often he heals.

His main gimmick is similar to Glossom’s, where he has three weaknesses (Sword, Spear, Light) and locks off two of them. However, unlike Glossom, Yan Long will ROTATE his weakness locks. He’ll start with Sword, then Spear, then Light, then back to Sword.

If you hit one of his locked weaknesses, he will counter by getting an extra action. Also, once you Break him the first time, he’ll summon two crows. The crows are weak against Axe and Tome.

Lastly, once you take out a good chunk of Yan Long’s HP, he’ll go all out, unlocking all three of his weaknesses, but in exchange having three actions every turn.

>>1134145
Interesting. That's a lot of weaknesses to juggle if you count the crows. At least there's no dark weakness.

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Funny story.

Spent all month on my Daily Paid Pull trying to get someone. Finally got the Veteran Seal and ended up with Heathcote (A2).

That was yesterday.

Today I did my Daily Paid Pull and got Fiore (A4).

Feelin’ good. But really eager to get some new blood on my team,

Dammit, just realized I didn't do tower at all last week. Oh well, I don't think it's too big a deal.

Notice the datamining warning in the news? Apparently, JP's next collab was leaked. It's Live-A-Live.

>>1134831
Lei will be confirmed the canon disciple.

>>1134831
Would roll for Oersted

I want to play this but starting a new gacha feels so daunting sometimes. I have no idea what I should spend for on the gacha, or if I should spend my rubies at all, I have barely even touched the game because I don't know if I should bother rerolling or not.
I played a bit of the original Octopath (until I got all the characters and then dropped it), so I have no particular attachment to anyone, should I just do the step-up? Can I use these blue seal thingies?

Datamine:
Next week's unit will be Falco. Free Stepup 150/300/150/300/300. 100 pity for 4.5*. 2* ST Dagger hit (not the shield crack one) has been changed to also grant self 50% chance to dodge physical attacks 1 time, same potency
4* Clerics will be receiving their ults next week as well.

Unit releasing the week after Falco is W'ludai. Free Stepup 150/300/150/300/300. 100 pity for 4.5*. No buffed/changed skills as far as we can tell.
4* Merchants will be receiving their ults on W'ludai's release.

Dancer banner: not 100% sure but looks like 1 round only, 100/200/200/200/300, guaranteed dancer in last slot, no pity or anything like that
Thief banner: same as dancer
No timing info on these banners unfortunately.

Since we have 3 weeks of units this likely means no maintenance until March 22.
Big thanks to the entire research team for all their hard work!
Lots of stuff in this update so I will edit if we find anything else.

>still no cecily
I wonder if I'll hit 10k again, at 7.2k right now.

>>1134898
Honestly, just spend your shit without worrying too much about it and play the game until you don't enjoy it anymore. Gacha communities' obsession with optimal spending and sweating profusely over spreadsheets at 3 am is the only thing more effective at sucking the fun out of games than gacha already is as a mechanic.

>>1134831
Is CotC one of those games that's perpetually a year+ behind the main server, or are the devs making an effort to catch up?

>>1134919
>Gacha communities' obsession with optimal spending
The issue comes from how a lot of the "genre" still is, and how it is used to be as a whole. If you make a dumb choice in a normal singleplayer game it might affect you for 10-20 hours of playtime, but you can still overcome it; if you make a dumb choice in a game with timegates it could fuck you over for literal months and stop your progression entirely. I haven't started CotC yet, but from my understanding it's more like Another Eden, but with less timegating, than a normal gacha game.

>>1134936
We're going at 2× speed, we will definitely catch up if this pace keeps up. Whether that's good or bad is up for debate, but one thing for sure is that we at least will get to the kino story chapters faster.

>>1134936
>is CotC one of those games that's perpetually a year+ behind the main server, or are the devs making an effort to catch up?
They are rushing the schedule. JP had a head start of two years. The global version just recently celebrated its half year anniversary and we already have about 70% of what exists in JP right now.

>>1134936
>if you make a dumb choice in a game with timegates it could fuck you over for literal months and stop your progression entirely
Which isn't a problem if you just stop playing when a game stops being fun to play. Let's be real here, no gacha game is so good that you'd really miss out on anything for dropping it.

>>1134831
>spoiler
Based beyond belief and absolutely perfect as the game that did Octopath's style of RPG back in the golden age of JRPGs. It was the best RPG I played last year, looking forward to the collab and praying global doesn't get axed before we get it. I guess I won't be spending many rubies outside of collabs as NieR and Triangle Strategy are also games I love.

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>miss the thread due to no Tressa OP picture
You had one job

This is the first time I've seen a notice come out in a mobage openly threatening dataminers.

Great Ghisarma is a crazy tough boss for a level 77 monster. Hits like a truck, has aoes that can paralyze, goes into aura attack mode every turn, can counter all physical or all magical, has reactive weakness locking after leaving break...all on top of a buttload of hp. This thing makes the level 85 veterans look like such pushovers.

Wait, its counter after its first break is so much worse than I thought. I thought it was switching from countering physical to magical. It now counters all of its weaknesses. Which means there's no way to break it, because this counter is strong enough to one shot people. Unless you use shield cracks, but those are typically 2 hit moves and it has 25 bloody shield points. How am I supposed to kill this thing?

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Okay, did it, but just barely. Hopefully one of you smarter lads can figure out a reliable strategy so I can farm its unique mat.

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>>1132871
>have 3100 rubies
>picrel is my current roaster
Recommend me what to do. Go for Lars?save them for the next guy? Go all out on the the dancer/thief banners? Or hold on for upcoming specific banner?

>>1134898
>start the game, you get a 5 stars character out of the bat
>if you want, reroll until you get Violo, Lyntte or Theo. Otherwise go for whoever you got no problem
>play through the story, get the 3 free daily caits to boost up your levels
>get Elvis for free after you finish the very first chapter
>explore the available areas, finish chapters 1 for each faction, the side stories for the characters you currently have and maybe you can finish few chapters 2
>by then, you should have enough rubies. If you liked the available step up banner go for it
>you most like end up with a full team of 4 and 5 stars
>Best case scenario: you somehow pulled seven 4.5 and 5 star characters.
>now you have your own fleet, you can through the story without paying a cent
>keep upgrading the armors and weapons every 10 levels or so especially after you pass level 50 range
>the free daily caits will scale up with you
Enjoy the story and don’t worry about the spreadsheet shit. The only real purpose for these is for fighting the arena champions - free 5 star characters, but they won’t join you until you beat them- but Victor’s Hollow won’t open up for you until you dig deep deep into the story

>>1135476
I'm at 7.2k and I'm skipping him. I want Cecily more and I'm afraid Nier might be around the corner. You have Kouren and Edea, so you can probably cope without him for a while and just roll Richard later or something. I'm doing the same, but with only Fiore.

Really looking forward to seeing the next roadmap. Can’t believe we’ll be getting TWO chapters in A single month.

If this month gets us Bestower of Power 3 then...
April - Bestower of Fame 3
May - Final Chapter (3)
June - Bestower of All 1
July - Bestower of All 2

Just wondering where the Arena and the Seed Story comes into play.

We only got two more Arena Champs after Yan Long. And Seed Story might be running either in tandem with Bestower of All or in rotation with it.

I’m half Dreading the pets and the powercreep that comes with it. I AM looking forward to the board game and the Triangle Strategy characters.

>>1136201
>I’m half Dreading the pets and the powercreep that comes with it

First time hearing of this. Would you be kind and elaborate on it anon?

>>1136263
Pets grant you an extra stat boost to party members. They can also be raised to increase their abilities when you equip them in battle.

At first, it feels like an extra boost that’ll give you an extra leg up in the competition. The problem is that later in Part 4 of Octopath COTC, enemies and especially bosses are designed with pets in mind.

In other words you are EXPECTED to get the latest cool pets, because if you don’t, you’re gonna have a bad time.

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>>1136315
P-Please tell me we don't have to get them by s-spending our rubies r-right?

>>1136358
Not exactly. In fact, most of them are available through quests.

I do know that there are three pets which require you to get specific characters in your party. Namely H’aanit, Z’aanta, Tatloch,, Lolo and Solon. These require You to exchange awakening stones to get these.

Yes that’s right, if Millard is stalking you, you now have a use for those extra Awakening stones you’ve been getting from him.

>>1132871
>spent 60 rubies for the latest boss
Have-not? More like Have-nut
Is there a non-spoiler guide somewhere for the upcoming two bosses? I only need the weaknesses, because fuck me if you did not prepare a team with the right knowledge you are fucked

>>1136501
why would you spend rubies instead of wiping and bringing a more suitable team?

>>1136501
Word of advice. Unless you’re facing the Master of All boss or something, don’t bother spending rubies on anything other than getting new companions,

Trust me...the Master of All is a nightmare battle that’s over an hour long.

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>>1135507
>>if you want, reroll until you get Violo, Lyntte or Theo
That only takes 2 minutes for a 1-in-8 chance to get who you want, so new players might as well go for it if they haven't started yet. I just spent 12 hours rerolling for Tressa using 6 instances and only a small handful of accounts ended up with more than 1 5* (not counting the starter), so doing full rerolls isn't worth it for most people, but the first character is easy peasy.

>>1136400
>Namely H’aanit, Z’aanta
You can get their animal companions? I've never gotten an awakening stone for either of them because fml, but now I'll save one for both like I did for Lynette's ultimate if I get one.
>spoiler
Fuck, that's gonna be impossible.
>Yes that’s right, if Millard is stalking you, you now have a use for those extra Awakening stones you’ve been getting from him.
It still blows my mind that I'm a day 1 player who's used almost every ruby and still haven't got Millard. He's the only launch character I'm missing.

>>1137021
I should probably add that for the Awakening Exchange, you get 1000 Awakening Fragments for each Awakening stone you trade in.

Getting the Awakening Stone of your choice (Non-Crossover) is 6000 Awakening Fragments.

That should help put things into perspective.

>>1137039
Oh yeah, I know it's a shitty 1 for 6 deal. I was more interested in how many frags the pets will cost.

>>1136400
Man, fuck this game's monetization. This pet system sounds stupid.

>>1137060
Roughly 3000-6000 Awakening Fragments each.

>>1137080
You’re REALLY not gonna like the new forging system once the Battle-Tested weapons become obsolete.

>>1137082
It also uses awakening stones? If it does, it manages to be even worse than farming veterans.

>>1137082
>Roughly 3000-6000 Awakening Fragments each.
Fucking ouch, Jesus. Get three extra dupes of the Bestower of Power villain to unlock her pet? With these rates in one of the stingiest gachas out there?
>>1137100
From what I've heard, soul weapons introduce one of the most cancerous gacha mechanics ever conceived: randomized sub stats. It's one of the two reasons that shizukatz guy cited for losing almost all interest in CotC and as soon as he mentioned it's grinding for stat rng, I could see why. One of my favourite things about CotC is that it *doesn't* have that cancerous equipment system and everything's all nice and simple: all I gotta do is kill some monsters, grab a BT weapon then I can make the latest and greatest weapons in the game. But of course, not even this single player game was safe.

>>1137178
It the Battle Tested Weapons forging can be rendered obsolete in Part 4, then hopefully the Soul Forging can be obsolete in Part 5.

We can only hope...and see what March brings for JP.

>Chapter 2 : Master of power
>The door is locked
am i retarded?

>>1137178
>It's one of the two reasons that shizukatz guy cited for losing almost all interest in CotC
I saw that video and you can the physical pain in his eyes when he mentioned the "soul weapons" and it legit got me worried.
Can I just get whatever I get then move on without worrying about maxing out shit?
>>1137268
Check "Quests" option, you should see what you missed to unlock it

Lemme try to summarize how deep this rabbit hole goes.

There are five types of souls (human, star, moon, sun, dice). And within them, four ranks (Bronze, Silver, Gold, Rainbow). The ranks speak for themselves, but each of the different soul types have a different function:

Human Souls raise a weapon’s stats directly.
Star Souls raise a character specific skill.
Moon Souls reduces the SP cost or increases the damage cap.
Sun Souls increase resistance against elements, ailments or Limbo enemies. It can also increase damage against Limbo enemies.
Dice Souls greatly increase a stat but only work with Fortune weapons (Both of which are won in the game board)

Dice Souls also have three categories:
Wealth tends to increase a stat while reducing PAtk, PDef and HP
Power tends to increase a stat while reducing MAti, MDef and SP
Fame has no penalties, but the increase isn’t as great either.

All weapons have four slots for souls, like materia from FInal Fantasy VII. Silver slots take Silver and Bronze. Gold slots take Gold and Below. Rainbow slots take all ranks of souls.

Here’s the unfortunate kick in the nuts. The souls you get are quite random! By the way, you can exchange Historical Fragments for small soul crystals and large soul crystals. So yeah, I hope you haven’t been wasting those Historic Fragments on Battle-Tested Weapons.

I’m sure there’s someone who could go into better detail than me

>>1137060
Linde, H’aanit’s pet - 6000 Awakening Fragments
Hagen, Z’aanta’s pet - 6000 Awakening Fragments
Ma Fa, Tatloch’s pet - 6000 Awakening Fragments
Lulu, Lolo’s pet - 3000 Awakening Fragments
White Sheep, Solon’s pet? - 3000 Awakening Fragments

>>1137491
As long as you don't need to waste rubies on that, it still sounds better than the pet system.
I just hope the places where you drop these things don't ask for specialized teams because holy shit, that's the worst part of this game easily.

Having so few teams and having to manually change your equipments for every single team if you decide that you want 2 different characters in 2 different teams to use the same equipment at different times is the reason why I don't farm arenas nor veterans nor anything aside from what I can beat with my main team, the time you waste on repeated team management is ridiculous and adds nothing but boredom to the experience.

>Pet System
>Soul weapons

What the fuck is wrong with Square Enix?

>>1137500
Oh jeez, SIX dupes of a specific character a pet? Oh wait, I think I'm misunderstanding. You should be able to trade any awakening stone in for 1000 frags, yeah? So any six dupes will do. But still, that's definitely whale territory as I imagine a regular player would be better off using those dupes to awaken their characters to make them stronger.
>>1137491
Yeesh, the definition of overly complicated. Not looking forward to minmaxing this shit.
>>1137502
Yeah, good equipment management systems are a must for games with large rosters of characters. If they're not going to let us share equipment across parties, they could at least let us save favourite loadouts like a couple other games I play do, that way you can fully equip someone with just two quick taps.

>>1137578
Yeah pretty much. The Awakening stones are converted into 1000 Awakening Fragments, and the Awakening Fragments are traded for other Awakening Stones, pets and other things.

i haven't done any arena, whats the order from easiest to hardest?
easiest as in being able to slot in more 4 stars

>>1137398
thanks i really am retarded

What weapon set should I farm to last until soul weapons?

>>1138063
Whatever the latest is. We only have Berserk (Physical Attack) and Inferno (SP) after this, if you don't plan to tackle Yan Long on release and thus won't be making Origin, just slacking off is a valid option.

>>1137682
I think it depends on your roster. I've only done the first four arena champs and Glossom (the 2nd one) was the hardest for me because that fight really wants dark damage and dark is by far my weakest element. Ri'tu, the 4th one, was the easiest for me because she is weak to wind and my wind is quite stacked (having Odette, the limited character and best wind damage dealer, really helped). I think most people agree that Tikilen, the first champ, is also the easiest because she's the most powercrept when it comes to what weapons and armor are available.

Is it just me or is the lastest boss just awful?

>>1138375
Shit’s getting real at this point. Each Master/Bestower has a field it puts out to make your life difficult:
Herminia’s saps SP
Tytos’s saps BP
Auguste’s sets a Countdown
Ohska’s causes Stillness which locks a skill for each turn you’re on the field.

It’s when he hits you with the Can’t Switch moves combined with Sleep that you REALLY start to feel the screws tighten.

Also, if Ohska boosts and you’re not prepared, consider yourself fucked. Not only does he use this move three times in a row, but you won’t be able to switch afterwards.

However, don’t lose heart, if you can get Ohska deep into the red, Bargello and his mates will give you a quick pick-me-up so that you can unleash your finishing moves on the Bestower of Wealth.

Any strategies I can use against the Taciturn Housewife?

Gearing up for Yunnie cup but I don't have too many apothecaries that are ready for it. Should I prioritize Gertrude over Hasumi if I already have Lynette and Primrose tourney-ready, or are dancers better for the tourney overall? I also have Soleil that I could train up but she seems underwhelming (& I already have Theo at A4).

is there a weapon set that i dont have to farm elites everyday to make?

>>1138507
nope :)

i blew my last 3k, got Lars and the pity, got that clown guy and some primrose along the way
feels okay

>>1138422
She does insane amounts of damage and her constant silences are an absolute pain in the ass to deal with. You want to debuff her attack immediately, preferably up to the 30% cap if you want to survive her attacks with any consistency, and have a plan against her status spam which in practice either means having Alfyn or potentially Theo's ultimate, but the latter is a bit more finicky. You really want to try to minimize the amount of turns spent on things that aren't breaking her shield because she's incredibly tanky and gets a crazy amount of shield points after the first break. Use allies to help you cap out buffs and debuffs with minimal downtime and to help with breaking.

My team consisted of Cyrus and Elvis as the primary damage dealers, Therese to help cap out lightning def down on her and a typical support core with Lynette, Viola and Alfyn. I think I had Fiore in there as a backup breaker and damage dealer too, but I couldn't tell you the exact pairings anymore.

>>1138755
Not a bad haul, I'm jelly about that Primrose.

>>1139093
Thanks for the advice.

I just recently scored Cyrus and Lars (also Molu) and I’m planning on making good use of them for the upcoming fight.

Can someone give me the TLDR for 60+ weapons? I don't understand why some are better in the arena and some are better in normal content. It makes figuring out what to commit to difficult..

When can we expect OT2 characters in jp? During the new story arc?

>>1139566
The simple explanation is that the 60+ level weapons have a higher Grade than the others. Better weapons have higher grade which adds to the weapons’s power in addition to the weapon’s stats.

In the Arena, the weapon Grade is removed from the equation making some weapons less powerful than others

>>1139578
I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Hell, I don’t even know if the next Part takes place in Solistia.

I’d say for now, wait for the next roadmap to appear. We’re getting one for both Global and JP.

>>1139566
>>1139582
To add to this, think of each "pip" (lil blue vertical bar) of a weapon's grade as an extra +40 atk/ele atk that's invisible and turns off in the arena.

>>1139566
if you are just starting, just farm them all since you will need to beat those time gated elite enemies in order to +I, II, III... them

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Falco confirmed for Wednesday.
Next week we wait for W’ludai next Wednesday.

>>1139845
I wish they'd give us the damn four stars.

>>1139845
Really looking forward to seeing Falco’s sister, Canary.

Chances of Nier collab in 2 weeks?

>>1140429
Nier-o percent chance.

>>1140429
Pretty low in my opinion, I’d say give it until May before we even consider Nier. Though we are getting close to winding down on Chance Encounters:

WARRIORS: Joshua, Aedelgard
MERCHANTS: Cecily, Nonya
THIEVES: Sarisa
APOTHECARIES: Haze, Primrose EX
HUNTERS: Chloe, Tressa EX
CLERICS: Prome, Yukes
SCHOLARS: Ninalina
DANCERS: Elenora, Lemaire, H’aanit EX

>>1140529
should have said "Nier-ly nothing" but:
>ya_blew_it.png

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>step 1
Neat, exactly what I was hoping to pull. Only need Olberic to have all the og 8 now too.

Thief & Dancer Banner
>1000 rubies for a single round.
>Only thieves/dancers in respective banner
>10th Pull of 5th Step Guaranteed 1 of 4 5-Star thief/dancer
>Banner lasts until 4/5
>Rate for actually GETTING a 5-Stat is still fucking 4%!

In other news, we’ll be getting details on Part 5 next week.

Anything of note with this current set of banners or should I just hold on to my rubies?

>>1141106
The Thieves/Dancers Calling has only Thieves/Dancers.
Doing the Step-Up only costs 1000 rubies.
You can do infinite rounds instead of the normal four.
It’s Chance Encounters only so the ones you’re gunning for are:
THIEVES: Viola, Heathcote, Therion, Nicola
DANCERS: Lynette, Primrose, Hasumi, Harley.
The 10th pull of the 5th step gives you one of the four 5-Star Thieves/Dancers.

Thing is, despite the reduction in travelers, you’re still dealing with a 4% Chance of getting a five star by normal means.

I’d say this is the type of banner to pull if you’re a beginner in need to of catching up. Or if you have cash to burn and want to get duplicates. If you’re doing this just for one character, I’d say you’re better off saving your rubies

Personally I’m hoping that Nicola will spook me later on.

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>>1139093
Thanks for the advice. Just conquered the Taciturn Housewife. That’s four down. Five more to go!

Next stop: the Sea-Gazibg Graybeard!

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My only 5* Dancer is Hasumi and I need Dark damage, so I figured this was worth it. I have a hoard of 7,700 anyways.
Picrel is Step 4. A single Harley was Step 5. I never fell for the discount meme before and I shouldn't have today.

Funny story. Was planning to save rubies for the Scholar Calling since I was missing Cyrus and Molu. Then I got impatient and decided to go for Lars instead.

Along the way I got:

Molu (A1)
H’aanit (A4) (final pull 1st round)
Heathcote (A3)
Fiore (Complete)
Cyrus (final pull 2nd round)

I ended up having to spark the bastard, but ended up getting the two scholars I needed. So there’s no need for me to do the Scholar’s calling when it comes out.

Still missing is: Molrusso, Nicola, Kersjes, Soleil and W’ludai.

>>1141127
>If you’re doing this just for one character, I’d say you’re better off saving your rubies
Nta, I'm a day 1 vet, but fug, I desperately want Primrose. Didn't realize it was "only" gonna be 1000 rubies. Shit, I should probably skip though, right? I have A1 Lynette (with lv10 ult) and A2 Hasumi, missing Prim and Harley though I don't really care about Harley. I have 4800 rubies, I've been waiting to blow my load on NieR to get 2B and A2. I should probably go in on the Cleric banner whenever they release that, as I STILL don't have any 5* clerics except Agnes who won't even be in the pool.

>>1141127
I don't have any 5* Dancers but I do have Viola.

>>1141238
Average Step Up is a grand total of 1200 rubies. So 1000 is pretty cheap.

It’s always good to hold off for the travelers you want, though with Nier we have no idea when it’s arriving. It could be as early as 3/22 or as late as May.

By the way, as a start, you’ll want to get one of each class. But after Part 2, you’ll probably want to have at LEAST four of every job class (5-Stars that is) in order to form specialized teams for specific bosses such as the Arena Champions, the L100 Vetrrans and even the Bestowers themselves.

Best of luck with your game. You’ll get Primrosr one way or another.

>>1141288
Definitely get some dancers in your party, the odds are in your favor for a new thief as well.

>>1141304
Thanks for the reply, let's see how many I have from each job not counting arena champs.
>Warriors: 5
>Merchants: 3
>Thieves: 4
>Apothecaries: 2
>Hunters: 4
>Clerics: 1 (ouch)
>Scholars: 5
>Dancers: 2
Arena champs will eventually pump these up by +1. Yeah, I think I'll save for clerics and pray Prim finds her way home some day. I'm just glad Olberic, Kersjes, Mooloo and Ophelia are in the pool now for when I go all in on NieR.

>>1141398
>Just barely scrounge up 1000 rubies since I'm fairly new
>First step on the dancer banner
>Get Prim
It was definitely worth it.

>>1141483
Lucky! Dammit, you're tempting me but I'll keep holding.
Also
>there was another stream
I really wish they'd announce this with in game notices like every other SE mobage that has streams. They did for the stream before this one, that wasn't even a real Tavern Talk. I keep missing them and I want to repeatedly @ them about the missing four stars.
Did they show a new road map?

>>1141489
Nope. Road map will be in the NEXT Tavern Talk.

>>1141513
I should also add that the important Tavern Talks tend to fall on a Monday before the update occurs. So I’m thinking around 3/20 for this one,

>>1141513
>>1141547
Thanks bro

Hopefully we see the new story arc, simultaneous OT2 character release with global and the Live a live collab.

>>1141646
If Partitio ends up being summonable with his Negotiate Schedule EX Skill....

>>1141489
I'm tempted, should I go all in on the dancer banner or should I do a single step on the Thief and Falco ones?
Not touching Soleil again after failing the first time.

>>1141812
Soleil‘a gone. Though you can probably spook her next month. And she’ll be in the Apothecary Calling.

>>1141917
I wonder if it's better as a new player to do a single step in all of the calling banners.
I have Kouren, Viola, Scarecrow and Primrose as my 5*s.

>>1141937
if you don't have any mage, apothecary, or cleric 5*s it might be better to save for those banners. Viola and Primrose are already very good.

>>1141993
>mage
eugghh i meant "scholar"

>>1141937
If you’re a new player looking to catch up, that’s a good way to go. Only issue is that you won’t be getting the latest ones.

I would say take the new over the older ones though. You’ll get the older ones eventually. And definitely get the Sacred Blaze, Crossover and Seasonal Guidance.

Fair warning. Coming up sometime this summer we should be getting EX travelers. These are basically characters that have a different job class. They have different moves, use a different element and need to be raised from scratch. He’ll, they even have their own unique awakening stone (dick move).

However, the EX travelers have the exact same stats as the original travelers, and cannot be in the same party as the originals.

Something else to keep in mind: the EX travelers of the Original 8 are Chance Guidance. The rest are limited.

Here’s what we’ve got so far:

CHANCE GUIDANCE:
Primrose EX - Thunder Apothecary
Tressa EX - Fire Hunter
H’aanit EX - Fire Dancer

SUMMER SEASONAL
Sofia EX - Wind Apothecary
Fiore EX - Non-Elemental Dancer

WINTER SEASONAL
Millard EX - Ice Merchant
Lumis EX - Thunder Hunter

MEMORY GUIDANCE
Alaune EX - Ice/Dancer

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I got him! I GOT HIM! HA HA HA HA HAAAaaahhh...!

And on my first step up too!

He’s only a 4/5 star...but not for LONG! Now I just gotta wait for his sister to show up!

>>1141993
>>1142012
So essentially, put in a single on the banners that I don't have 5* for then save for the big stuff later on in the game.

>>1142057
I would do an entire round. You may get lucky and get two of them. You should have a full team by the time you reach Part 3.

Once you get to part 3, start hoarding your rubies then. At some point in May we’re getting our next Sacred Blaze (probably Titi), sometime in the summer we’re getting Fiore and Sofia EX. And somewhere along the way we’re getting the Nier characters.

Spend wisely. That’s the only way you’ll get a good team to use.

>>1142103
I don't know what the economy in this game is like but I'm used to other gachas where you can't afford to spend willy nilly. That's why I'm concerned about spending poorly or overspending early on and being forced to wait for a long time when the well of freebies dry up.

>>1142121
Lemme see if I can paint you a picture. For getting Rubies it goes kinda like this:

Isla’s Letter - 10 Rubies, 30 Rubies every 10th day, 100 Rubies every 100 days.
Daily Tasks - 5 Rubies
Weekly Tasks - 30 Rubies
Days that end with 8 (08, 18, 28) - 30 Rubies
Updates - 60 Rubies.

That’s if you’re doing your daily dose. There’s also a series of feats you can perform and most of them will get you piddling amounts (2, 3, 5). There’s also some that net you some BIG rubies, such as going through the Arena, defeating the Veterans or leveling up Elvis.

Also, you’ll want to do feats since they’ll raise your Influence. Every time you level up in Wealth, Power or Fame, you get 10 rubies.

Plus there’s also special occasions where the developers give your rubies as presents for special occasions. (You won’t get more than 300 Rubies though...)

>>1142182
Now for the spending. You can spend rubies on a number of thins, but if you’re smart, you’ll only use it on Guidance.

One pull = 30 Rubies. And 10 pulls = 300 Rubies. This is used for Chance Guidance, and for non step-up character banners.

Then you have Step-Ups which are important for two reasons. 1) it uses less rubies, 2)Guaranteed 5-Star at the end.

For a regular character that uses Free Rubies a Step-Up tends to go like this:
Step 1 - 150 Rubies
Step 2 - 300 Rubies
Step 3 - 150 Rubies
Step 4 - 300 Rubies
Step 5 - 300 Rubies (5-Star on the 10th pull)

Each pull gives you 1 guidance fragment. Collect 200 and you can get the character’s Sacred Seal which allows you to spark him/her. Collect 100 and you can get a lesser quality one that allows you to guide him/her as a 4/5 Star. As I said, the Step Ups are important because you’re paying 1200 Rubies for something that normally costs 1500 and you’ll get a 5-Star in the mix.

>>1142186
Then you have Fortuned Banners which requires PAID rubies. Ones you buy in the store with REAL money. A fortuned Step-Up looks kinda like this:
Step 1 - 100 Paid Rubies
Step 2 - 200 Paid Rubies
Step 3 - 300 Paid Rubies
Step 4 - 300 Paid Rubies
Step 5 - 300 Paid Rubies (5-Star at the last pull, 50% Chance it’s your guy!)

In addition, for 100 Character Fragments, you can spark your traveler as a 5-Star.

>>1142190
Sacred Blaze Guidance is a special banner, which occurs every three months and allows you to get limited characters (so far there are seven of them). And there are no 3-Stars included.

However it’s pretty shitty for two reasons:
1) The chances of getting a 5-Star are STILL only 4%.
2) No Step-Ups (so far)

This means that in order to Spark a Sacred Blaze Character, you will need to spend 6000 Rubies. Yeah...it’s that bad. But the characters you can get are worth it.

>>1142031
Congrats! You inspired me to do the first step on Falco (got nothing from Dancer first step) and while I didn't get him, I finally got my first ever Sophia dupe! Would've been really nice to have a minute ago when I used her to beat Bestower of Wealth.

Speaking of BoW, God that was a wild final fight. I went in blind because that's how I do all story stuff, so I used my main team who has one of each damage type. So vs a dagger/ice/shadow boss I was fucked with just Viola/Cyrus/Fiore respectively. Ended up going back in with an optimized team and the first time I broke Oskha, Therion landed paralysis and for the first time ever, I saw paralysis work on a boss. It stopped Oskha's first action on the turn after break which means he never got rid of one of his weaknesses! Pretty crazy RNG stuff, but it ultimately didn't matter as my best team for that fight didn't rely on dark element anyway.
Great fight, really looking forward to the other Bestowers, especially BoP.
This game is way too well done for a mobage. There was this brilliant moment halfway through Chapter 3 of Bestower of Wealth when you confront Oskha on the balcony of Herminia's Manse and he gets angry, slashing suddenly with his sword and knocking over a table. The animation on that was so smooth and fluid, and it truly surprised me that objects in the environment would actually be interacted with in that way like it was a 3D console game.

Oh, I have a big and important question: where the hell do I go to enhance Origin weapons? This update added new weapons but not a new town, a first for this game. I thought maybe because the chapter was about Valore, they'd alter the blacksmith there to allow enhancing weapons but nope.

>>1142207
Congratulations! Sofia’s one of the few 5-Stars I have not been able to awaken. And yeah, Bestower of Wealth is a wild ride.

By the way, you upgrade the Origin weapons at Sufrataljah. The next one’s upgraded in Grandport. The last BT weapon upgrades in the 2nd town in the Highlands. I’ll find out the name once the Roadmap drops sometime next week-ish.

>>1142196
>6000 to spark
Ouch, these better be some of the best of the best.

>>1142230
>By the way, you upgrade the Origin weapons at Sufrataljah.
Thank you!
>I’ll find out the name once the Roadmap drops sometime next week-ish.
I'm gonna assume it's Everhold since I saw that name pop up somewhere today (maybe in an NPC's flavour text?).
>>1142240
We've gotten three in global so far and I can't speak to Lianna or Dorothea because I skipped them, but I have Odette and she's god tier. Best wind and light mage and even though she was the first one we got and it was quite a while ago, she's still top class.

>>1142240
Some real gems in there, but going pure 6000 without Step-ups is brutal. It’s why we NEED them. And we should let the developers know we need them.

>>1142240
Honestly, I’d say the only bad Sacred Blaze traveler so far would be Dorothea. A great nuker with both spear and Fire, but a terrible breaker. She also desperately needs to be A2 to be fully functional.

And even then that’s only because she was meant to be the first Sacred Blaze character, not the third.

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I got to thinking...Falco’s storyline has a different feel to it once you realize that Canary is playable.

That being said...I’m making a prediction here and now. Fiore’s girlfriend, Mika will be a playable character come Part 5!

If we’re doing two callings per month, we should see who we’re getting so far...

WARRIORS: Fiore, Kouren, Eliza, Lionel, Olberic, Lars
MERCHANTS: Gilderoy, Tressa, Cardona, W’ludai
APOTHECARIES: Theo, Alfyn, Lumis, Soleil
HUNTERS: Scarecrow, H’aanit, Z’aanta, Kersjes, Jillmeila
CLERICS: Millard, Ophilia, Molrusso, Stead,
SCHOLARS: Sofia, Cyrus, Therese, Molu

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>>1142207
Yup, the presentation of this chapter was top notch. In the beginning, I had a pretty minor complaint that you couldn't see just how the characters were feeling due to the lack of portraits. Oskha emoted a lot on chapter, and to top it all off, this scene was just, wow.

>>1132982
>>1133015
>rerolled for a good account to start
>only must haves I had looking at JP were bravely default and nier
>saved all my rubies so I could pull Edea and Agnes
>that felt like an eternity ago
>have been saving all my gems since then for 2B and A2
>have totally lost motivation to play because I'm still waiting for those characters
>basically haven't done anything since beating master of all
>nowadays I just open app, claim mail, close app
>if I'm feeling particularly energetic I'll auto a few hunts
>check /vmg/ bread every few weeks to see if there's anything about nier coming up (there never is of course)
I wish they'd just release nier already so I can start playing again

>>1143066
If it helps, I’m predicting that Nier will come out sometime between April and June. Yeah, I know it’s a lotta months in between, but picture this:

>Late March - Bestower of Power 3
>April - Bestower of Fame 3
>May - Final Chapter (III)
>June - PART 4: Bestower of All 1

While Nier is the next crossover game, the one after that is Triangle Strategy. Thing is, the Triangle Strategy crossover introduces a new mechanic. So it HAS to occur sometime during Bestower of All.

The Summer Seasonals (Fiore EX and Sofia EX) are gonna be in the summer, along with the introduction of EX units in general, so I suspect June is out of the question.

With the Sacred Blaze occurring once every three months, I suspect that will occur in May. So sometime around April/Early May is looking like a good candidate.

Don’t lose heart. Just keep doing your dailies. And be sure to grind your characters too. The Nier characters are good, but around Part 3 is where you’ll start to need to use specialized teams because bosses will start getting tougher.

>>1143101
I'm probably straight up fucked on specialized teams desu. I have like ten 4.5-5* characters in total, definitely not enough to make a specialized team. I'm probably a ways off from part 3 though, I haven't done anything past master of all. Not even elite hunts or those cups or anything.
I don't even do dailies really, I just get the mail and see if nier is out yet and then close the game until the next day.

>>1143105
Dude... stop being a dumbass.

Do your daily/weekly tasks. That’s like 65 rubies a week you’re missing out on and you’ll need rubies to get 2B, 9S and A2.
Also make the hints part of your routine. If you can do one normal hunt, one expert hunt and one other world hunt, you’ll get 15 character Guidestones per day. That shit adds up quickly towards breaking your level cap and making your party stronger.
Watch the fucking ads. They’re annoying as hell, but you can get some random goodies from it and fight carts for guaranteed experience points.
And if you’re powerful enough, take on the Sable Dragon. That’s 250,000 experience points a day.

By the way, if you’ve defeated the Master of All and are starting Bestower of Wealth/Power/Fame, you’re already on Part 3.

>>1143105
Even during my laziest of days, I at least still do enough dailies to get the 5 daily rubies.

>>1143313
>>1143329
I already have the rubies ready for the collab, is the thing. I'm just waiting on the characters to drop.
Idk what or where sable dragon is but I doubt I could beat it. My main team is at the level cap (at least the 80 one) so the hunts I've been doing are just leveling random 4* characters in case I need them later. Idk how to do expert or world hunts so I'm stuck with normal for now. Basically all these exp and stuff that will help my party in the future is hard to quantify for me, because its all contingent on a collab that afaik has been delayed to shit and might not ever come for all I know. Those seals that let you turn 4.5* cucked characters into real 5*s were the main motivation I did hunts after I got level capped but since the recent logins gave us one of each I have those stocked (I never even got one doing hunts either lol)

I'd have to actually start part 3 to see what its all about but I hope its not as restrictive as it sounds. Because if I can't actually use the favorite characters I saved and pulled for that would literally be a game ender. That's what made me enjoy the game so much up to master of all.

>>1143401
you have enough to get 5 copies each?

>>1143414
No, and even if I'd earned and saved every possible ruby since launch I don't think I would have enough for that without some luck involved.

I have enough to pity one copy of each. And with any luck I get a copy on the way to that pity so they at least get the stat boost from first awakening. Unless something about the game has changed since then (I'd be surprised, that's not typically the mobage fuck players), that should be enough for my purposes.

>>1143401
Ho boy... where do I even begin?

You know that 3-Stars cap at L40, 4-Stars cap at L60 and 5-Stars cap at L80. However, you can use Guidestones to raise their cap up to 20 levels maxing them out at 60/80/100 respectively.

Thing is, get character Guidestones is a BITCH. And you’ll need 2000 of them to raise the cap to the character’s max level. That goes for ALL characters regardless of class. One way to get character Guidestones is to get them in your pulls:
60 for 3-Stars, 80 for 4-Stars and 100 for 5-Stars.

The only OTHER way to get character Guidestones is by using Hunts. You’ll get:
20 Guidestones for 3-Stars
10 Guidestones for 4-Stars
5 Guidestones for 5-Stars

And if you go on your daily hunts you can do 3 different hunts a day and score 15 Character Guidestones for your 5-Stars. If you were to do this every day, you’ll be able to lift the cap and turn your level 80 travelers to level 100 travelers.

>>1143492
To get the expert hunts you need to first do one regular hunt. Then do a sub quest in that town where you get medals or something for doing path actions with the townsfolk. Get five of them and your expert hunt will unlock. I assume you’ve done Elvis’s side quest so that’s three different kinds of hunts that are unlocked.

>>1143493
As for the Black Dragon well... you know those Elite monsters you run across? They appear in the Bonfire of Battle when you defeat one. When you get ALL the Elite Monsters in one area, you can then fight an Elite BOSS monste.

Fight all eight of the Elite Boss monsters in each area:

Frostlands
Flatlands
Coastlands
Highlands
Sunlands
Riverlands
Cliftlands
Woodlands

And then a ninth area will unlock. The lair of the Black Dragon. If you can beat him, you’re in good shape. Ideally you’ll want to be able to trounce him every day. He’s worth the daily experience points.

>>1142624
>That being said...I’m making a prediction here and now. Fiore’s girlfriend, Mika will be a playable character come Part 5!
I certainly hope so! Fiore's my fave CotC gal other than maybe Gertrude. She's been my "main" character since the start and was my tutorial 5*.
>>1142638
>WARRIORS
I'm missing Olberic and Lars. Olberic is my boy, but I'll probably have to skip just like Prim and it fuckin' hurts.
>MERCHANTS
W'ludai's not even out yet, right? I'll be skipping because if they were, I have the other three.
>APOTHECARIES
Missing Alfyn and Soleil and I'm wondering if it's worth 1000 rubies just for a chance of Alfyn. I really need that guy for high difficulty content and speedier arena clears if I ever wanna farm arena frags.
>HUNTERS
I have all of them but Kersjes, who's voiced by my favourite VA. Skipping this will hurt just as much as skipping his original banner.
>CLERICS
NOW WE'RE TALKING! I am a day 1 player and somehow missing ALL of those. The only 5* cleric I have is Agnes. I'm going all the way on this one for sure.
>SCHOLARS
Just missing Mooloo, which means another painful skip for me.
>>1142652
Yeah, a number of unique sprite animations and poses popped in this chapter that I hadn't seen before, great stuff.
>>1143101
>May - Final Chapter (III)
Without spoiling any details, is the final chapter of the three Bestower storylines really worth a whole month? The previous final chapters were just little epilogues iirc with one boss fight and a short dungeon.

>tower asks me to fight BT weapons guys
>cant copy paste my team
:/

Question: this game says I can play at my own pace, but I'm concerned that if I go too slow, my progress will be locked behind content that assumes I have the strongest characters and equipment from the paid gacha. Should I hustle?
For reference, I've recorded 50 days of logins and have yet to start chapter 2 of the Master of All storyline.

>>1143513
I’ve basically got most of the units. Missing Nicola, Molrusso, Kersjes and Soleil.

Gonna hold off on W’ludai just to see who comes after him. I was considering doing the Scholar Calling but ended up getting my missing scholars, Molu and Cyrus while pulling for Lars. Considering going for the Apothecary Calling since I’m about to cap all four of my apothecaries (Theo, Alfyn, Gertrude, Lumis).

As for the Final Chapter (III)...honestly, I don’t know. It could be a sub-update like with the Arena fights. The Roadmap will give us more details, but from what I’ve seen of the previous final chapters they’re short and sweet with a simple boss fight. It really feels more like an epilogue than a finale.

>>1143546
>my progress will be locked behind content that assumes I have the strongest characters and equipment from the paid gacha
how would your pace overcome this?

>>1143546
There’s no real content lock you’ll be facing. You might be under-leveled for some stuff but that’s nothing that experience nuts, Ad-Caits and armor grinding can’t solve.

There’s just two issues you’ll be facing. First off, the game expects you to play EVERY DAY. That’s how you get your rubies, Guidestones and guidestone fragments (as well as leveling up).

Second issue you’ll be facing...is Guidance. The chances of scoring a 5-Star is 4% (2% for a 5-Star, 2% for a 4/5-Star). No matter HOW many 5-Star travelers they put in. Meaning that getting the characters you want outside the promotional banners becomes harder and harder (which is why we have things like the Thieves/Dancers Calling)

>>1143578
I'm not really sure. I was just assuming that getting the welfare materials from story progression sooner rather than later would lessen the grind to get prepared for later story chapters more manageable than otherwise.
>>1143590
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the daily login is my sticking point. I have to wrangle Bluestacks every time I try to log in because my phone's a budget model that refuses to run the app, and I've been distracted trying to clear all the achievements in OT2 recently, so I'm falling behind.

I just finished Master of Fame and I must say that Auguste was an entertaining antagonist. I wonder what happens if you have Primrose as your leader during the cameo scenes with Simeon.

Also; these are my strongest characters
Noelle (3), Molrusso (4), Kouren, Merrit, Viola, Aslyte, Peredir, Scarecrow, Barrad, Mabel and Primrose. I wonder if there's anything I should do or team comp adjustments before moving on to the next arc.

>>1143608
Try to make Molrusso into a 5-Star. Also, you’ll want to use your Guidestones to raise the caps of your 4-Stars to at least 65...while Use the rest to get their third Awakening ASAP.

>>1143656
I would turn Molrusso into a 5* if I had the stuff to do so. I'm kind of just bumbling around with random characters because I don't know how to form a proper team.

>>1143666
The best way to start is with a balanced team.

You’ll need one of each job: Warrior, Merchant, Thief, Apothecary, Hunter, Cleric, Scholar and Dancer.

You’ll also want to cover each element: Fire, Ice, Thunder, Wind, Light and Darkness. There’s only six elements so there’s gonna be overlap.

And you’ll want all of your teammates to be 5-Stars. Do those three things and you’ll be Golden.

A well-balanced team will carry you far. It’ll get you through many dungeons, and regular bosses. It’s also good for getting all the weaknesses out of the way.

However, as you get to the more advanced bosses, the ones with gimmicks like the Arena Champions. Or ones with a turn limit like the Veterans. A well-balanced team will not be enough. You’ll need to gather...

...A SPECIALIZED TEAM. One you use for that specific boss. There is no easy solution to this one...rather...the solution to this is to gather more travelers.

Best of luck to you on this one. Save your rubies for some good travelers...spend them to get more travelers...And hope that Lady Luck is on your side and you’ll hit that 4% you so desperately need!

is there a weakness list for the enemies in the tower?

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>>1143718
This one?

>>1143724
yeah that and the other one

Is there an online party builder?

>>1143492
>>1143495
I guess I can't really appreciate the weight of that stuff since its never been a factor for me before. I'm sure I'll hit the character level cap wall soon enough when I start really going at it again, and hopefully its not too bad. I've still been getting a fair amount of them with hunts (not the 15 a day, but it is what it is). It doesn't really solve the problem anyways since whenever I get the nier girls my party will be cucked because they won't have been grinding hunts this whole time

As for the dragon it seems kinda weird. It seems more like an end-game leveling option. Even if hypothetically I could defeat it, the characters strong enough to do so wouldn't be the ones I really could use the exp on the most.

But as dumb as it might sound all of this is kind of moot without nier anyways. Even if its stuff that benefits my account, its still content I want to run with characters I like.

i just beat tikilen, my first arena unit
is it really only 8 currency a kill? its gonna take forever to get her to 100
also how do i awaken her?

Are we getting solo job banners for the other classes in the near future? Seriously tempted to do a single on the Apothecary one.

>>1143782
Same here, and I’m seriously don’t know if i should do the rest because im 6 months behind
You need to kick her ass 13 times to get her exclusive accessory, and if i were u i will stop at that. Use hints to get her guidestones because fuck that.
The awakening stones shit will come alongside “Job tower” shit that is coming up later. Example: “Sword job tower” will ask you to use team with only sword users

>>1132871
>farmed my ass for level 4 Atlas and Maaden weapons, alongside armors
>SE : “HEY THERE! HERE IS ORGIN ITEMS”
>”THERE ARE MORE TYPES COMING UP”
I’m seriously sick of this, can i just do the upcoming champion with the shit i made?
Maybe i will do 2 orgin swords but that’s about it.

>>1143825
Min-maxing equipment is a waste of time. I made a fully upgraded weapon or two every update with the mats from first clears and was able to clear all content except the last 3 lvl100 npcs

>>1143825
This is why the last weapon I seriously farmed was Sacred. Although I'm farming Origin right now because the extra HP sounds nice. After Origin, I'll just wait for Fortune weapons.

>>1143919
Problem is the souls you generate for soul weapons are pretty random.

>>1143964
>soul weapons
It is for this exact shit is why I will go for what >>1143854 and >>1143919 have suggested.

now begins my long grind to 90+ tiki wins...

>>1143703
Let's see
Warrior: Sword + Light
Merchant: Lance + Fire
Thief: Dagger + Fire/Ice
Apothecary: Axe + Light
Hunter: Bow + Wind
Cleric: Staff + Wind
Scholar: Tome + Fire/Wind
Dancer: Fan + Dark/Thunder

A bunch of overlap here, I'll have to roll a bit on the class specific rate ups.

>>1132871
I decided to try this game again and getting Lars in my first tenfold pull on his banner is making me more open to giving it an earnest shot. But what the fuck is up with the free ruby offers? Most of these aren’t actually free and the ones that are seem like a really good way to install some sort of virus on my phone.

>>1144114
just ignore those

No leaks?

>>1144351
W'ludai is this week.
>>1134914
We'll probably need to wait for the Tavern Talk (not announced yet) for next week.

>>1144479
We also have 1-2 of every job for Chance Guidance left...three dancers though...

Cecily looks like a good candidate for Yan Long (Merchant/Light), though they could just as easily do Eleanor (Dancer/Ice), the only normal dancer left.

>>1132871
When should I take the time to grind out equipment for my party? I’m on the Level 65 story quest and most of my squad is using level 40 equipment. I felt like I was doing fine up until now, where it feels like the random encounters have spiked in difficulty. Where should I go if I do grind for gear?

>>1144666
Which story quest is that? If it's the last chapter of Master of All, feel free to farm some level 60 meteor gear in the castle, though do that after getting all the chests as there's some free level 60 gear to be found in there.
After Master of All is where the good gear starts becoming available, with each new chapter coming with a new town with new and better gear (currently Origin gear is best, available from the areas in Chapter 3 of Bestower of Wealth). Though the key for that will be getting battle-tested (BT) weapons from defeating the level 85 NPC in each of the first towns of the 8 regions. That's a long term goal though, I'd just grind up some level 60 gear for now like I said at the start of this post.
Remember: if you hit a wall, just go the latest dungeon/area you've unlocked and grind whatever gear is made from the mats that drop there.

I love the golden palace OST.

>>1144878
It's been stuck in my head for days now ever since finishing BoW. I keep catching myself humming or singing it, it's a great version of the main BoW theme.

>>1144878
Only two months until we can have those tracks names

>>1144878
This one is great as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj8QSdVqt-w

got the accessory and did her story, 81 more runs to finish tiki haha...

W’ludai confirmed. Honestly had no idea she was a girl. And so far she’s the only Dark Merchant.

Damn...I kinda want her now. But I don’t wanna spend the rubies...

Goddamn I don’t know what to do...she’s a perfect addition to dealing with Floor 50 EX2 for of the Ultimate Tower. That one floor is STILL giving me trouble.

>>1145093
I can't beat any of the floor 50 EX stages, it sucks. Well, I've only tried the first two to be fair, but still.

>>1145093
might as well go for her if you want her, since you have a chance at pulling a random in the future for the awakening, unlike collab units

>>1145098
Speaking of the EX stages, did anyone take a look at the latest ones?

EX 1 - Fame(F60)/Wealth(F70) only
EX 2 - 5-Stars only
EX 3 - 4-Stars or less only
EX 4 - 4 Party Members

Not even sure how I’m gonna do half of those things!

>Thought that Elvis was one of the few good parts of BD2
>Excited to get him as a free unit
>See the requirements to make him into a proper unit
Gee, thanks...

>>1145358
I almost cleared 60 EX4 with Therion/Ophilia, Cyrus/Alfyn but I got killed because I forgot armor actually matters here because grade is taken into account. I'll try again after I get Origin armor. Also, that's 4 OG8 travelers I was using! Feels like playing the original Octopath.
For EX3, I'll just wait for merchant ultimates because I heard Pia's is very good, close to Lynette levels of good because it's a PAtk + Speed buff.

>>1145358
>EX 3 - 4-Stars or less only
itsover.jpg

>>1145368
im under a month away to finish mine :)

>>1145467
I'm almost at A3 for Elvis. Would be far, far faster if I could beat the level 100 NPC, but I've been saving that until after I clear the latest 2 arena champs. And I've been saving THAT for after I get caught up on gear.

>>1145368
Currently on A3. Just getting started on my A4 awakening stone. Another month should do it. You just gotta whittle away at it hunt by hunt.

62 more battles to finish tiki haha...

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Who’s ready to get their asses handed to them tomorrow?

>>1145811
Not me. I'll wait until I see next week's unit.

>>1145811
Implying i've done any arena finals.

>>1145811
Another one already? Still have Gertrude and Yunnie to do.

>>1145811
I will try at least. But I have zero hopes about getting the challenge rubies

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Official Live A Live announcement!

I'm at a loss, this merchant girl looks like a good addition but I've heard that an even better merchant is coming along soon.

Oersted and Streibough only? Flop collab confirmed.

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Oersted and Streibough are confirmed to be playable!
...that's all?
Well, whatever. I'm outta the stream. I only wanted to see who are going to be playable.

hopefully Alethea is the free unit and it isn't just these two, she's literally in the event.

I fucking hate the crows

Oersted is free. He looks mid but has a 4 hit sword aoe.

>another filler week
just give us nier ffs

>>1146092
No it isn’t. There’s another Part of the Live a Live collar on the March 30th. I’m guessing we’re getting Uranus (Cleric) and Hasshe (Warrior) on this one.

Also, come April we’re getting Bestower of All’s Epilogue. Which is also getting split into two parts. I say “we” but it’s Japan that’s getting all this stuff.

>>1146200
>Implying it’s all filler unless Nier is in it.
You might wanna go outside for awhile and clear your head. Maybe touch some grass and get in touch with reality once again. We already knew from the Datamine what we were getting this week.

Though it looks like next week is the major question mark. I’m putting my money on Cecily next week as she’s an EXCELLENT person to bring to Yan Long. She’s got spears, axe, tome and light all wrapped up in one.

The longer we go without NieR, the more nervous I get that the gap between it and Triangle Strategy will be much smaller than the gap between Bravely Default and NieR. I gotta get Roland and Frederica.
Speaking of collabs, I really, really hope global lasts long enough to get Live A Live. When Megalomania started playing in the collab trailer, I instantly jammed out and got excited at the thought that it'd be in this game. I really gotta finish LaL, it was easily the best RPG I played last year.

>>1146272
Serious question here. At what point goes the game board get introduced? I know we get it on Bestower of All, but in which part?

That and the Road Map will help me gauge when Triangle Strategy is coming out.

>>1146281
No idea, I don't know that much about JP, sorry.

>Yan Long voiced by Tsudaken
He's competing with Yoko Hikasa for most voiced characters in this game it seems like, that's at least three so far.

>Haha i bought all your resources and now you've got nothing but gold, see how worthless is it!!!
>Oh let's go to other towns to buy resources thus sharing the gold with others!
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT MY MINIONS WILL KILL YOU!!

>>1146343
The only defense of his stupidity is that he's insane, but yeah, he's a pretty dumb villain despite being stylish with a banger of a theme.

>New player with about ~1300 rubies
>Lacking in a 5* merchant so I decide to roll for the one on rate up
>End up getting a random Therion and a limit break version of a 4.5 that I own
Well okay?

>>1146377
Yep, much better than getting the new chick. Like how I did one step on Nicola's and got 4.5* Theo instead. Congrats!

>>1146399
Well I kind of wanted her since I went through the trouble of doing all the steps and her dark damage would sync up well with Prim. But I can't complain about effectively getting two 5*s and a 4.5 out of it.

>>1146400
Oh, you did all the steps? That kinds hurts then, sorry.

>>1146434
I have negative luck with the step up banners. I don't think I want to do the 5 steps again for her especially since the intent was to save until when the summer characters come along.

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Tressa > Long

>>1146448
I hear you, man. I tend to be disciplined enough to do the first step-up, but the only one I’ve gotten through this method was Falco.

And I definitely need to save my rubies. We’ve got big stuff coming up. We’re running out of Chance Guidance characters. We have Titi coming in May. The Summer EX units in Summer. And we’ll probably be getting Nier sooner rather than later.

I just wish we had our next roadmap.

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>That final battle theme in the JP
A shame about what happened to that channel.

>>1146459
I'll have to skip anything that comes out between March and April even if its Nier. I got to save and judging by what i've read about past rate ups, there's no way I can afford to get them in April.

just 43 more battles to finish tiki haha....

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This fight is some grade A horse shit if you're not a big fat whale. The sheer amount of damage he puts out is just ridiculous.

>>1147136
You’re going to LOATHE fighting Hammy when she arrives.

My current team I’m using to fight Yan Long. Seems to work for awhile...but I find that when the fight is prolonged, I run out of SP. Those damned birds don’t help matters either.

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>>1147312
I should actually post the picture of said team, shouldn’t I?

>>1147313
>fully awakened Edea
>Ophilia and Olberic, both awakened
>fully awakened Theo
>Alfyn
Yeah, I'm not gonna touch this fight for months.

>>1147365
Yeah, no matter how strong the team is, Yan Long hits like a fucking truck. It doesn’t help that he acts two or three times per turn.

>>1147403
I'm missing half of your characters, but do any of those moves they have debuff? Because if taking a lot of damage is a factor and you're not max debuffing his atk/eatk, then that's a problem that's easily solved.

>>1147409
Nope. There’s no debuffing moves here. He cleanses himself at the end of every turn and removes all his debuffs (except when he’s broken).

Basically any debuffing moves you inflict on him will be removed at the end of the turn.

>>1147409
>then that's a problem that's easily solved.
anon...

>>1147444
>>1147449
Well, shit. That's just not fair. Though if he doesn't cleanse at the end of each round, couldn't you keep him debuffed by recasting it each turn? Sort of like how even though Varkyn's wisp dispels your buffs, a fast dancer like Lynette who acts before the rest of your team can still keep you buffed so long as she's dancing every turn.

>>1147456
Meant to say "does his", not "doesn't".

>>1147456
>>1147458
Well you COULD be constantly debuffing him every turn, but you’re basically wasting an action you could be using to break him, or heal your party or even get rid of those stupid crows of his!

You only get four actions per turn and when you’re dealing with tough cookies like this one every action counts.

Best case scenario is you lower his defense RIGHT BEFORE breaking him or lowering his attack RIGHT AFTER breaking him. Even better would be if you had attacks that also lowered stats like Fiore’s Crumbling Cut.

>>1147477
Yeah, Crumbling Cut was what I was thinkin'. God I love Fiore.

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>TEN large supreme nuts from the nut garden today
>mfw

>>1147719
Damn! Lucky!

less than 30 more battles to finish tiki haha...
who is the next easiest one?

>>1147772
Ri’tu by a country mile.

Seems like we could be getting nier collab as soon as march 22

>>1147920
>have less than 200 rubies
pls no

>>1147921
Some people on reddit said they saw a official twitter post about nier collab giveaway from mar 22 to 31 before it got deleted. And it seems the post itself got deleted by the mods, so yeah

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>it's real

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Post your ruby count NOW!
Looks like I won't be reaching 10k, but it's still above 6k so I'm pretty safe.

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>>1148017
I can probably get to 6k, but barely, if the collab continues until mid-april. Maybe I shouldn't have pulled on the dancer's banner even though it got me lynetter I waited so long for

can i finally play this on emu? maybe i should start a new account for nier...

>>1148047
I can play on bluestacks pie 64 bit no problem.

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Check in game notices, Nier is confirmed! Well, just teased for now. But now we know for sure that it's happening very soon.

>>1148017
2014. I didn’t plan on Nier being so soon. If they don’t have a good deal, or at least spread it out over the month of April, then it’s gonna have to be a hard pass for me.

>>1147136
>Theroin
Fucking why? You need someone to boost up the defenses such as Glossom

>>1145358
EX 3 - 4-Stars or less only
it won't be bad if they released the remaining 4 stars.. like fucking seriously what the fuck is the hold up?

>>1148221
I hope SE don't fuck up this time. And maybe get afflicted by a change of heart, showering us with goodwill....one can wish

>>1148221
Nice, how much is a spark for the collab? I'm wondering if I should go for a1 a2.

>>1148260
People don't spend their precious rubies on a 4*.

>Only 1k rubies

It's over.

>>1148292
On JP, it was 200 pulls. (6000 rubies)
It may or may not change for EN, but considering this is a pretty big event, prepare for the worst. But we can still hope for the best, I guess.

>>1148017
>8K

How?

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Well I just started the Master of All section and these are my 5*s. No plans on rolling for anyone for the next few months since I have like ~150 Rubies.
Is this a good starting point to hoard until Summer?

>Inb4 Nier banner is paid ruby only

>>1148367
Been here day 1 (day 2 technically, spent the entirety of the first day rerolling) and I have been following some anon's guide regarding focusing on permanent units first.

https://arch.b4k.co/vmg/thread/939713/#q949469

Basically, your permanents will always outstat your limiteds because of the potential spook dupes. He recommended pulling Alfyn, Ophilia, Cyrus, Therion, Z'aanta, Sophie, Cecily, Viola and Lynette. I'm only missing Cecily now because she's not released yet.

And in the event you REALLY want some limiteds, he recommended A2 and Richard/Rondo. The only thing I don't agree with him is the notion that all permanent warriors are shit. Wrath is clearly up there. However, the warrior powercreep is indeed insane in JP so I can see where he's coming from.

Also, here's my ruby spending history. As you can see, I abused the hell out of the 100 pull sparks, and got lucky on banners that had 200 pull spark.

300 rubies - initial reroll
1200 rubies - Sophie/Fiore step up
150 rubies - Lumis/Stead step up
1300 rubies Z'aanta step up
3000 Therion
1080 Alfyn
3000 Cyrus
3000 Ophilia/Olberic (didn't get Olberic lol)

>>1148377
yeah sure

how long until nier rerun haha....

>>1148017
I'm at 4798, been saving for this! It might not be 6000 but I have 86 characters and have only done like 5 traveler's stories, so I think I have around 1800 rubies left in there. Gonna be burning through those soon! Plus I haven't touched Yunnie cup or Yan Long cup, lots more rubies in there too. I also haven't fought any of the level 100 NPCs, but I think I'm strong enough to beat at least one or two. I'm just praying it's 3000 for a spark/pity like with the Bravely collab.

>>1148377
Roll on apothecary banner and if you get theo or alfyn, you are set

>>1148017
Around 2.8k but I haven't done the tournament stuff yet or traveler stories. I expect them to pull the same shit as the Adelle banner because A2 is pretty meta,

>>1148221
2,671, but I haven't spent any and I'm only on Master of All chapter 3. Are the 1k job step ups common? I couldn't find a full banner history when I tried looking.

>>1148532
>Are the 1k job step ups common?
The two we just got, dancer+thief are the first ones we've ever gotten.

>>1148457
Ha, I'm better prepared than you, because I expect the worst. Adele is nobody compared to A2 in terms of popularity and they completely went on a rampage with her banner just to test the reaction. They're also perfectly aware of how popular and useful she is, especially now when Yan Long is here and Cecily is not. They're going to use some drastic shit on her banner
>no pity
>ONLY PAID
And no step-up discounts on top of that.

What are the chances they do three separate banners (one for 9S, one for 2B and one for A2) like they did with Bravely Default instead of just one?

>>1148675
I thought NieR banners were separate on JP? I heard the way they got 9S (the free character) was the first pull on his banner was free and guaranteed him in the tenth slot.

>>1148736
Nope. In Japan, the three Nier characters were in a single banner. 9S was guaranteed on the first Step.

And while I heard that the final pull was guaranteed one of the Nier characters, 9S was among those characters.

>>1148810
Oh no. Oh that's horrible. Oh God, please let me get lucky! I've been waiting since before launch for these ladies!

4 more battles to finish tiki haha...

>>1148810
>And while I heard that the final pull was guaranteed one of the Nier characters,
if you are talking about the free 10 pull, there was no such guarantee. Only one 9S is guaranteed but there's a chance that you can pull the other chars in the free pull.

https://www.4gamer.net/games/452/G045223/20220228123/

>>1149017
Nice, I bet you're done by now! I should start my Tiki grind soon, can you post your team?

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>>1149338
under 15 min a run

>Only 1400 rubies

I don't want to submit to tapjoy....

>>1149402
Good stuff. I have Z'aanta and H'aanit so I'll probably swap them in for some of your 4* hunters. Odette over Eliza and I was just watching a crazy whale vid that beats Tikilen in four turns which I can't replicate, but I can put my lv10 ultimate Billy on the squad to speed it up.
>>1149471
>tapjoy
Don't do it bro, it's not worth it. Even if you want the NieR chars and can't get them this time, JP has shown that this is a game that does rerun collabs unlike some mobage out there.

>>1149474
theres an 8k reward....

Best way to level up?

>>1149485
Nuts from farm, nuts from Auguste, Caits.

>>1149484
You don't realize what that truly costs.

I finally beat the Sufraltaja 100 npc but I rng rigged a sleep proc after the first break. I feel so dirty.

spent the last few hours trying to farm caits
its fucking sucks

>>1149662
Yeah. ad caits+sable dragon+2 snow caits+hunts are my daily exp grind sources and gives about 1.5 million exp, which is just enough to not suffer from guidestone bottleneck

>>1149692
Guidestone Bottleneck.

Now there’s an apt turn of phrase. I have the perfect team ready to make good work of Yan Long. The problem is it requires Lars to be at level 90. Right now he’s at 85.

A good five days is all I need. I’m glad they extended this to the 30th.

i manged to scrounge up 1k rubies, maybe i will skip nier, who is the next must have, that also has discount steps banner and a pity at 10 pulls?

>>1148278
Oh, maybe they are really going for goodwill this time. they are giving us 600 rubies through daily dev letters alone (30 each day for 20 days, it seems like), while in jp it is 600 in total from dev presents and event feats. Means we will be getting more rubies

I can get to 6k before the collab ends!

Anything I should know about 9S, 2B and A2 before I take the plunge and go for the next Crossover Characters?

I swear to God, if they make this a fortuned banner, I’m gonna be PISSED.

>>1149986
The step-up is paid only in jp. There's the normal banner for free rubies but got shit rates for the collab chars.

>>1149983
a2 is the best
thats it

How many rubies would it take to guarantee 2B and A2?

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>>1150038
Pray for the generosity of Square Enix.

>>1150038
paid or not paid ;)

>>1150038
6000 paid rubies.

>>1150052
>>1150045
>>1150043
I'm sitting on about 4500 unpaid rubies atm
And I've got a fair bit more in character stories I haven't done yet.

>>1150060
oh ok 12000 free

>>1149881
I don't trust this. I mean the devs, not you, Anon. They could use this as an excuse to get rid of rubies from other collab sources.
I really, really hope the banner works like the Edea and Agnes banners.

>>1150078
>really hope the banner works like the Edea and Agnes banners
That would be the best case for everyone. I hope they do it.