Didst thou sharpen thy swords and spears to standest hunt against Yan Long and Oskha? The grand finale of the Bestower of Wealth is nigh. But for now cometh, letten us dancen.
List of characters (including JP): https://phrygian-tuesday-3c6.notion.site/2dd50eb0e188493fbecee1f55b8691c2?v=b41cb236e9bc4a7686380dd295153e9fAnd another one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaE2sVQMbNgz384x4P0CovOwbpVBXSPK3gqWeniCpO0/edit#gid=80885484Database: https://meowdb.com/db/octopath-traveler-cotc/List of resources and materials: http://convento.net/otcotc/materials.php
>>1132982No one knows, the devs and community managers haven't even breathed about it. I'm onl at 4200 rubies which is 1800 shy of what I need to guarantee A2 and 2B, so hopefully there's at least a bit more time.On an unrelated note, the next big thing I wanna tackle in this game is Gertrude. Can anyone give me some team advice? My five stars are>Fiore, Kouren, Tikilen, Eliza, Edea, Lionel>Gilderoy, Tressa, Cardona>Viola, Heathcote, Therion, Ri'tu, Nicola>Theo, Lumis>Scarecrow, H'aanit, Z'aanta, Jillmeila>Agnes>Sophia, Therese, Odette, Elvis, Varkyn, Cyrus>Lynette, Hasumi, Glossom
>>1133015I can try.Gertrude‘a weaknesses are Dagger, Axe and Fire. The good thing is she’ll be fighting you alone. The bad thing is, she’s a fucking monster. Even worse is her gimmick, Shieldguard. Basically, any multi-hit attacks will only break one shield points. You’ll want to keep Gertrude’s attack down and your defense up. You’ll also want to pray to the RNG gods that she doesn’t hit the same person two or three times a row.Oh yeah, and she is an apothecary so she does have one attack heals her after she uses it.
>Almost done with my first storyline>No Apothecaries>Just have a little over 1k rubiesI've only used the free tickets so far but being completely incapable of hitting a weakness type is really unfortunate.
>>1133020Okay, so it sounds like I need to cap phys atk down and phys def up. Nuking her attack is simply a matter of bringing Viola and Therion, so that's easy. But to cap my phys def I'd need to bring Glossom along with Hasumi, and Glossom's not getting higher than level 80 for now because his fight is the hardest arena fight for me to farm because of my poor dark options (first clear took forever). But idk, maybe he can survive at level 80 with the new armor that came out. So I'm thinking something like:Viola, Therion, Cyrus, Lynette, Hasumi, Glossom, Lumis, Theo.Wait! I just looked at a video and it seems her second weakness is bow, not axe. That changes things, as I have a lot of hunters. Ah, but I really should still bring an axe user for regen. So then maybe my team should beViola, Therion, Cyrus, Lynette, Hasumi, Glossom, Z'aanta, Theo?The video I'm watching is for a 3.5 minute reliable farming clear of Gertrude:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6-b639OJxY&ab_channel=chazhangBut I don't have Alfyn.
Alright. Around 11pm EST, we usually get an announcement tonight. Place your bets as to who it’s gonna be!
>>1133056Three dancers is too much. In an almost physical party against a physical opponent, Glossom can give you all the buffs/debuffs you need completely on his own (if we could make him A2, he would provide -30% Pdef down debuff in addition to +30% Pdef and Patk buffs and -15/20 Pdef down debuff, which would make Viola/Therion's job a bit easier). He is also quite self-sustainable.Anyway, I would seriously consider before taking Lynette and Cyrus. They are the only mages on your team. They are both excellent units and hit the right weakneses, but they don't fit into the rest of the composition. Lynette and Viola can give Cyrus all the setup he needs (-30% Mdef down, -30% fire resistance down, +30% Matk up plus Lynette's ultimate and 10% passive), but it requires serious calculation and memorization of patterns. Gertrude may not give you that luxury on your first try.Gertrude also has a one-shot attack (basically), so you'll want to take as many characters as possible that move faster than her, and Cyrus isn't one of them. Better bring more Thieves and Jillmeila along.Jillmeila doesn't need anything other than bleed for high damage, and some Thieves can provide a useful speed down debuff. For example, Ri'tu knows how to tie legs. For tactical advantage, of course. Nicola and Wingate can also lower Gertrude's speed. Speaking of which, both are supreme backpacks.Although you don't have to worry. Or read all of this. You have Therion and he is an absolute beast in this fight. Just slap him somewhere in the party and he'll do it.
>>1133114Simultaneous jp/global OT2 character release starting with Castti who powercreeps Rinyuu and has a fat axe nuke that scales higher the more debuffs an enemy has.
>>1133124>Gertrude also has a one-shot attack (basically), so you'll want to take as many characters as possible that move faster than her, and Cyrus isn't one of them. Even with A1 and the extra +30% speed it gives? I noticed his turn order went up significantly after that happened, pulling ahead of some enemies and even his own allies.I just got Jillmeila up to 5* with the login cookie so she's underleveled; guess I'll feed her some nuts.>and some Thieves can provide a useful speed down debuff. For example, Ri'tu knows how to tie legs. For tactical advantage, of course. Nicola and Wingate can also lower Gertrude's speed.Is Gertrude so blazing fast that she needs those speed debuffs on her? I figured a bruiser apothecary like her would be on the slow side.So then, Viola (A1) and Therion are locks, Jillmeila and Z'aanta have the best physical damage. Glossom and Hasumi (A2) will keep me alive, though leaning on Hasumi's heals as my sole source sounds risky if I don't bring Theo (underleveled and waiting on the apothecary cookie) or Agnes (A2). Last 2 slots could be Lynette (A1, maxed ultimate) and Cyrus. Lynette helps everyone so she seems like a lock. If I didn't bring Cyrus then I guess I would bring either an apothecary or Nicola.
>>1133015> I'm only at 4200 rubies>tfw at 360 rubies and almost done with most content.
>>1133146Have you done the arena cups? There's a load of rubies in there.
>>1133138When she joins your band, she will be slow. But as an arena champion, she has a permanent speed up buff. She can also slow down your characters with two different attacks. Which makes her surprisingly fast.Well then, if you're intended to take Lynette, there's no point in not taking Cyrus as well. It also makes sense to replace Theo with Agnes simply because she relieves stress from three different characters and can revive on top of that. While Theo is just more durable. As a 4.5* maybe he's not, though.
>>1133187He'll be 5 star very soon but yeah, Agnes has burst heal too if it's needed, and even Haste or Protect. Didn't know about those speed debuffs, now it makes sense. Gonna wait until I get more of the latest armor to protect myself before trying, thanks for the advice!
>>1133182Yes, i just have super bad luck with pulls i've had to pity a lot of characters.
Sex with Tressa.
>Wrath name change to LarsUnironically, why?
>Wrath is paid step up>Falco is free stepKek. I guess they're making popular characters paid, since Falco is a pretty good unit for dagger comps. Anyways, no Cecily so...sleep.
>>1133228Sorry to hear bro. I think the only character I've had to pity was Cyrus and that took everything I had plus the one time I spent money to get a $15 pack with Google credit.>>1133262The fuck? I'm not liking this trend of global changing names for dumb reasons. Mooloo sounds like a pet? Seriously?>>1133278Two separate character step ups at the same time? I don't remember them doing this before. They've done two characters on the same banner a couple times, like Lumis/Stead and Olberic/Ophelia.
>>1133299Falco is coming next week. There will also be class-specific step ups with free rubies, but uh, I wasn't really paying attention so I don't know when that will be and I'm too lazy to rewatch.Also, next roadmap will be revealed on the next stream. Hopefully we will finally know what the ??? Is.
Just started last week and these are the characters that I haveNanna, Kouren, Trish, Menny, Sigrid, Miles, Tahir, YugoConny, Devin, Barrad, Caroll, PiaViola, Aslyte, Kurtz, Felline, Cless, DiegoMerrit, RitaCamilla, Bertrand, Sunny, Scarecrow, AshlanMolrusso, Jose, Madelaine, Ramona, Cedric, MennoPeredir, Noelle, Dorrie, Laura, Eunice, JulioMeena, Fabio, Mabel, ManuelAny advice on who to use/bench? I don't have any rubies after trying to get Soleil and failing on all 5 step ups.
>>1133278Nothing to kek about. They will easily do another "fuck you" with Cecily or anyone from general pool. A2 is now almost guaranteed to have an Adelle-type banner.Also>WrathRars.
>>1133306Shove all your 5*s on your team for starters and then try to round out any elements or weapons you're missing. I'd suggest something like:Kouren, Barrad, Viola, Scarecrow, Molrusso, Noelle (although you're doubling up on elements with Molrusso here, Noelle is among the most stacked 4*s in terms of utility and damage so I highly recommend her anyway), Mabel and Sigrid/Peredir.Sigrid is also redundant in terms of filling out missing coverage, but she's among the better 4*s in general and Merrit isn't very good aside from providing passive regen to someone more useful so skipping out on axe coverage is fine until you pull someone better. Peredir is also a good option for the quality of life of automatically analyzing enemies and to provide fire coverage since Barrad doesn't really count. Cless is also a good option over any of the 4*s if anyone doesn't feel like a good fit as he has a 2x attack that always breaks shields, along with a handy debuff and good dagger damage
They should drop tapjoy and add a battle pass and way more free rubies in bundles
>>1133312I have Molrusso, Mabel and Noelle at 4.5/3.5/3.5 respectively, would that change anything with their usage?
>>1133324Molrusso still gets her job done even at 4.5*, but for 4*s it's definitely best to stick with ones that aren't stuck at 3.5*. Laura isn't half bad at lightning damage and is an adequate breaker for tome weak enemies so she makes a good replacement for Noelle if you've got her at 4*. 4* dancers are generally quite good until you find 5*s to replace their function so Meena and Fabio are both solid to replace Mabel. Cless again can fit in nicely to replace just about any 4* because he can always contribute to a fight.
>>1133333It might be better for me to list the rarities that I have5* - Viola, Kouren, Scarecrow4* - Molrusso, Aslyte, Peredir, Camilla, Meena, Barrad, Sigrid, Tahir, Merrit, Rita, Cless, Madelaine, Ramona, Cedric, Ashlan, Devin, Pia3* - Mabel, Noelle, Trish, Miles, Kurtz, Laura, Menno, Bertrand, Fabio, Nanna, Conny, Jose, Menny, Yugo
>>1133303>job step upsFug. I have every thief but Adelle, so the thief one is an easy skip for me. But for dancers, I'm still missing Prim and Harley. And Prim is my most wanted character of the ones I'm missing. I NEED dark damage, and I need another Power ultimate and a dark ultimate at that. Shit, I don't know if it's worth it though. Even if she's in the pool, the guaranteed dancer on step 5 could easily be a fairly pointless Lynette or Hasumi for me.>>1133308>A2 is now almost guaranteed to have an Adelle-type banner.After the massive outcry last time that made them restructure the other banners? I really hope not. Though making non-OG 8 permanent travelers have paid step ups is pretty worrying.>>1133314Battle passes in other games I play contain a skin for the paid monthly versions. This game doesn't have skins, but if it included a guaranteed 5 star traveler for 20 bucks, I'd gladly pay that as it's way better than the couple of 3 stars spending 20 bucks on this game's gacha would normally give you.
As a starting player, can you fuck up your short/mid term progression if you don't follow a guide or is it safe to treat it like a normal JRPG and go in blind?
>>1133570>as a starting player, can you fuck up your short/mid term progression?Nope, there is almost nothing to miss, remember three things so that later you will not have the slightest regret about them:>be greedy about rubies, that's it>completely clear the final boss castle: all chests, all elite enemies, all battle achievements; it will be closed after defeating the final boss, so you can miss the cool accessory and the achievement for defeating 100 enemies of a certain type>some story related NPCs but they just give you garbage, if you do a Path Action on everything you see you won't miss them, if you miss them no value will be lostJust remember to be greedy, really.>>1133375>after the massive outcry last time that made them restructure the other banners?I guess they're just testing the ground right now and will keep a close eye on Rars' banner. If the expected profits exceed their lowest expectations and are not overwhelmed by reputation losses, they won't think twice about making another popular character paid.And it's still baffling me>what's your name, warrior? Why are you swinging your sword?>I'm a vigilante, evil hunting evil, the name is Rars>Mars, God of War? A truly formidable name suitable fo>nope, Rars, it means fucking nothing, yoroshiku onegai shimasu
Do you do the first step on each step up banner or do you hoard and do all 5 on specific ones?The ruby rate in this seems awfully slow.
>>1133742The latter. I used to do the former when my roster was lacking and was missing a lot of the good 4*s, but now I don't need to do that anymore.
>>1133742Ruby acquisition is definitely a bit of a slow trickle, but there is a very sizable amount of rubies locked up in feats that you'll unlock just by playing the game and you can get a pretty chunky influx of rubies from the arena and from challenging the battle tested NPCs and later still the level 100 NPCs. Many people advocate for hoarding rubies which probably is the smarter way but for me personally at least makes it a miserable experience. I've cleared all content out so far while being very frivolous with my ruby spending (though admittedly I have gotten very lucky with the sheer number of 5*s I've pulled) and while I wouldn't necessarily recommend that for everyone, I do think it's generally a good idea to be a bit more liberal with your rubies until you've at the very least pulled a solid foundation of 4*s and a handful of 5*s.Ultimately the game is a slow burn and content isn't going anywhere so there really is no wrong way to spend your rubies.
What skill should I run as Viola's third while I wait for the stuff needed to awaken her? 3x Dagger, 2x Dagger AoE or the 2x Fire? I'm around Level 38 so I'm trying to bee line immediate impactful skills and the 5th board is sp intensive.
>>1133782The debuffs (Anti-Attack and Debilitate) are all Viola needs, the third slot is for shield crack.
>>1133825SP is a problem with her so I'll just take whatever shield crack is cheaper.
>>1132871>dancers & thieves bannerScrew Larsscrew the other oneMy mates are in desperate need of awakening stones especially Lynnte, she’s A0 since September for fuck sake.
>>1133946Good luck bro. I wish I had the balls to pull for Prim.
Yeah. I’m gonna hold off on Lars.If they’re gonna test the waters with Paid Banners, I wanna make sure their test fails. Especially if we’re gonna be hitting the Nier Banner and later Memory banners.Funny thing though... while we’re expecting Falco to come in the Global release next week, Japan’s getting his lovely sister, Canary as their 7th Sacred Blaze character. Suddenly I’m now interested in Falco.(Definitely pulling for the Scholar Banner once it comes out though. I’m missing Milu and Cyrus. Maybe Ninalina will be out by then, who knows?)
So here’s what I heard about Yan Long, the latest Arena Champ:Yan Long’s an Ice-type Cleric. Though he’s more of a staff-user than an ice-user. Now sure how often he heals.His main gimmick is similar to Glossom’s, where he has three weaknesses (Sword, Spear, Light) and locks off two of them. However, unlike Glossom, Yan Long will ROTATE his weakness locks. He’ll start with Sword, then Spear, then Light, then back to Sword.If you hit one of his locked weaknesses, he will counter by getting an extra action. Also, once you Break him the first time, he’ll summon two crows. The crows are weak against Axe and Tome.Lastly, once you take out a good chunk of Yan Long’s HP, he’ll go all out, unlocking all three of his weaknesses, but in exchange having three actions every turn.
>>1134145Interesting. That's a lot of weaknesses to juggle if you count the crows. At least there's no dark weakness.
Funny story. Spent all month on my Daily Paid Pull trying to get someone. Finally got the Veteran Seal and ended up with Heathcote (A2).That was yesterday.Today I did my Daily Paid Pull and got Fiore (A4).Feelin’ good. But really eager to get some new blood on my team,
Dammit, just realized I didn't do tower at all last week. Oh well, I don't think it's too big a deal.
Notice the datamining warning in the news? Apparently, JP's next collab was leaked. It's Live-A-Live.
>>1134831Lei will be confirmed the canon disciple.
>>1134831Would roll for Oersted
I want to play this but starting a new gacha feels so daunting sometimes. I have no idea what I should spend for on the gacha, or if I should spend my rubies at all, I have barely even touched the game because I don't know if I should bother rerolling or not.I played a bit of the original Octopath (until I got all the characters and then dropped it), so I have no particular attachment to anyone, should I just do the step-up? Can I use these blue seal thingies?
Datamine:Next week's unit will be Falco. Free Stepup 150/300/150/300/300. 100 pity for 4.5*. 2* ST Dagger hit (not the shield crack one) has been changed to also grant self 50% chance to dodge physical attacks 1 time, same potency4* Clerics will be receiving their ults next week as well.Unit releasing the week after Falco is W'ludai. Free Stepup 150/300/150/300/300. 100 pity for 4.5*. No buffed/changed skills as far as we can tell.4* Merchants will be receiving their ults on W'ludai's release.Dancer banner: not 100% sure but looks like 1 round only, 100/200/200/200/300, guaranteed dancer in last slot, no pity or anything like thatThief banner: same as dancerNo timing info on these banners unfortunately.Since we have 3 weeks of units this likely means no maintenance until March 22.Big thanks to the entire research team for all their hard work!Lots of stuff in this update so I will edit if we find anything else.>still no cecily I wonder if I'll hit 10k again, at 7.2k right now.
>>1134898Honestly, just spend your shit without worrying too much about it and play the game until you don't enjoy it anymore. Gacha communities' obsession with optimal spending and sweating profusely over spreadsheets at 3 am is the only thing more effective at sucking the fun out of games than gacha already is as a mechanic.
>>1134831Is CotC one of those games that's perpetually a year+ behind the main server, or are the devs making an effort to catch up?>>1134919>Gacha communities' obsession with optimal spendingThe issue comes from how a lot of the "genre" still is, and how it is used to be as a whole. If you make a dumb choice in a normal singleplayer game it might affect you for 10-20 hours of playtime, but you can still overcome it; if you make a dumb choice in a game with timegates it could fuck you over for literal months and stop your progression entirely. I haven't started CotC yet, but from my understanding it's more like Another Eden, but with less timegating, than a normal gacha game.
>>1134936We're going at 2× speed, we will definitely catch up if this pace keeps up. Whether that's good or bad is up for debate, but one thing for sure is that we at least will get to the kino story chapters faster.
>>1134936>is CotC one of those games that's perpetually a year+ behind the main server, or are the devs making an effort to catch up?They are rushing the schedule. JP had a head start of two years. The global version just recently celebrated its half year anniversary and we already have about 70% of what exists in JP right now.
>>1134936>if you make a dumb choice in a game with timegates it could fuck you over for literal months and stop your progression entirelyWhich isn't a problem if you just stop playing when a game stops being fun to play. Let's be real here, no gacha game is so good that you'd really miss out on anything for dropping it.
>>1134831>spoiler Based beyond belief and absolutely perfect as the game that did Octopath's style of RPG back in the golden age of JRPGs. It was the best RPG I played last year, looking forward to the collab and praying global doesn't get axed before we get it. I guess I won't be spending many rubies outside of collabs as NieR and Triangle Strategy are also games I love.
>miss the thread due to no Tressa OP picture You had one job
This is the first time I've seen a notice come out in a mobage openly threatening dataminers.
Great Ghisarma is a crazy tough boss for a level 77 monster. Hits like a truck, has aoes that can paralyze, goes into aura attack mode every turn, can counter all physical or all magical, has reactive weakness locking after leaving break...all on top of a buttload of hp. This thing makes the level 85 veterans look like such pushovers.
Wait, its counter after its first break is so much worse than I thought. I thought it was switching from countering physical to magical. It now counters all of its weaknesses. Which means there's no way to break it, because this counter is strong enough to one shot people. Unless you use shield cracks, but those are typically 2 hit moves and it has 25 bloody shield points. How am I supposed to kill this thing?
Okay, did it, but just barely. Hopefully one of you smarter lads can figure out a reliable strategy so I can farm its unique mat.
>>1132871>have 3100 rubies>picrel is my current roasterRecommend me what to do. Go for Lars?save them for the next guy? Go all out on the the dancer/thief banners? Or hold on for upcoming specific banner?
>>1134898>start the game, you get a 5 stars character out of the bat>if you want, reroll until you get Violo, Lyntte or Theo. Otherwise go for whoever you got no problem>play through the story, get the 3 free daily caits to boost up your levels>get Elvis for free after you finish the very first chapter>explore the available areas, finish chapters 1 for each faction, the side stories for the characters you currently have and maybe you can finish few chapters 2>by then, you should have enough rubies. If you liked the available step up banner go for it>you most like end up with a full team of 4 and 5 stars>Best case scenario: you somehow pulled seven 4.5 and 5 star characters.>now you have your own fleet, you can through the story without paying a cent>keep upgrading the armors and weapons every 10 levels or so especially after you pass level 50 range>the free daily caits will scale up with youEnjoy the story and don’t worry about the spreadsheet shit. The only real purpose for these is for fighting the arena champions - free 5 star characters, but they won’t join you until you beat them- but Victor’s Hollow won’t open up for you until you dig deep deep into the story
>>1135476I'm at 7.2k and I'm skipping him. I want Cecily more and I'm afraid Nier might be around the corner. You have Kouren and Edea, so you can probably cope without him for a while and just roll Richard later or something. I'm doing the same, but with only Fiore.
Really looking forward to seeing the next roadmap. Can’t believe we’ll be getting TWO chapters in A single month.If this month gets us Bestower of Power 3 then...April - Bestower of Fame 3May - Final Chapter (3)June - Bestower of All 1July - Bestower of All 2Just wondering where the Arena and the Seed Story comes into play.We only got two more Arena Champs after Yan Long. And Seed Story might be running either in tandem with Bestower of All or in rotation with it.I’m half Dreading the pets and the powercreep that comes with it. I AM looking forward to the board game and the Triangle Strategy characters.
>>1136201>I’m half Dreading the pets and the powercreep that comes with itFirst time hearing of this. Would you be kind and elaborate on it anon?
>>1136263Pets grant you an extra stat boost to party members. They can also be raised to increase their abilities when you equip them in battle.At first, it feels like an extra boost that’ll give you an extra leg up in the competition. The problem is that later in Part 4 of Octopath COTC, enemies and especially bosses are designed with pets in mind.In other words you are EXPECTED to get the latest cool pets, because if you don’t, you’re gonna have a bad time.
>>1136315P-Please tell me we don't have to get them by s-spending our rubies r-right?
>>1136358Not exactly. In fact, most of them are available through quests. I do know that there are three pets which require you to get specific characters in your party. Namely H’aanit, Z’aanta, Tatloch,, Lolo and Solon. These require You to exchange awakening stones to get these.Yes that’s right, if Millard is stalking you, you now have a use for those extra Awakening stones you’ve been getting from him.
>>1132871>spent 60 rubies for the latest bossHave-not? More like Have-nutIs there a non-spoiler guide somewhere for the upcoming two bosses? I only need the weaknesses, because fuck me if you did not prepare a team with the right knowledge you are fucked
>>1136501why would you spend rubies instead of wiping and bringing a more suitable team?
>>1136501Word of advice. Unless you’re facing the Master of All boss or something, don’t bother spending rubies on anything other than getting new companions,Trust me...the Master of All is a nightmare battle that’s over an hour long.
>>1135507>>if you want, reroll until you get Violo, Lyntte or TheoThat only takes 2 minutes for a 1-in-8 chance to get who you want, so new players might as well go for it if they haven't started yet. I just spent 12 hours rerolling for Tressa using 6 instances and only a small handful of accounts ended up with more than 1 5* (not counting the starter), so doing full rerolls isn't worth it for most people, but the first character is easy peasy.
>>1136400>Namely H’aanit, Z’aantaYou can get their animal companions? I've never gotten an awakening stone for either of them because fml, but now I'll save one for both like I did for Lynette's ultimate if I get one.>spoilerFuck, that's gonna be impossible.>Yes that’s right, if Millard is stalking you, you now have a use for those extra Awakening stones you’ve been getting from him.It still blows my mind that I'm a day 1 player who's used almost every ruby and still haven't got Millard. He's the only launch character I'm missing.
>>1137021I should probably add that for the Awakening Exchange, you get 1000 Awakening Fragments for each Awakening stone you trade in.Getting the Awakening Stone of your choice (Non-Crossover) is 6000 Awakening Fragments.That should help put things into perspective.
>>1137039Oh yeah, I know it's a shitty 1 for 6 deal. I was more interested in how many frags the pets will cost.
>>1136400Man, fuck this game's monetization. This pet system sounds stupid.
>>1137060Roughly 3000-6000 Awakening Fragments each.>>1137080You’re REALLY not gonna like the new forging system once the Battle-Tested weapons become obsolete.
>>1137082It also uses awakening stones? If it does, it manages to be even worse than farming veterans.
>>1137082>Roughly 3000-6000 Awakening Fragments each.Fucking ouch, Jesus. Get three extra dupes of the Bestower of Power villain to unlock her pet? With these rates in one of the stingiest gachas out there?>>1137100From what I've heard, soul weapons introduce one of the most cancerous gacha mechanics ever conceived: randomized sub stats. It's one of the two reasons that shizukatz guy cited for losing almost all interest in CotC and as soon as he mentioned it's grinding for stat rng, I could see why. One of my favourite things about CotC is that it *doesn't* have that cancerous equipment system and everything's all nice and simple: all I gotta do is kill some monsters, grab a BT weapon then I can make the latest and greatest weapons in the game. But of course, not even this single player game was safe.
>>1137178It the Battle Tested Weapons forging can be rendered obsolete in Part 4, then hopefully the Soul Forging can be obsolete in Part 5.We can only hope...and see what March brings for JP.
>Chapter 2 : Master of power>The door is lockedam i retarded?
>>1137178>It's one of the two reasons that shizukatz guy cited for losing almost all interest in CotCI saw that video and you can the physical pain in his eyes when he mentioned the "soul weapons" and it legit got me worried.Can I just get whatever I get then move on without worrying about maxing out shit?>>1137268Check "Quests" option, you should see what you missed to unlock it
Lemme try to summarize how deep this rabbit hole goes.There are five types of souls (human, star, moon, sun, dice). And within them, four ranks (Bronze, Silver, Gold, Rainbow). The ranks speak for themselves, but each of the different soul types have a different function:Human Souls raise a weapon’s stats directly.Star Souls raise a character specific skill.Moon Souls reduces the SP cost or increases the damage cap.Sun Souls increase resistance against elements, ailments or Limbo enemies. It can also increase damage against Limbo enemies.Dice Souls greatly increase a stat but only work with Fortune weapons (Both of which are won in the game board)Dice Souls also have three categories:Wealth tends to increase a stat while reducing PAtk, PDef and HPPower tends to increase a stat while reducing MAti, MDef and SPFame has no penalties, but the increase isn’t as great either.All weapons have four slots for souls, like materia from FInal Fantasy VII. Silver slots take Silver and Bronze. Gold slots take Gold and Below. Rainbow slots take all ranks of souls.Here’s the unfortunate kick in the nuts. The souls you get are quite random! By the way, you can exchange Historical Fragments for small soul crystals and large soul crystals. So yeah, I hope you haven’t been wasting those Historic Fragments on Battle-Tested Weapons. I’m sure there’s someone who could go into better detail than me
>>1137060Linde, H’aanit’s pet - 6000 Awakening FragmentsHagen, Z’aanta’s pet - 6000 Awakening FragmentsMa Fa, Tatloch’s pet - 6000 Awakening Fragments Lulu, Lolo’s pet - 3000 Awakening Fragments White Sheep, Solon’s pet? - 3000 Awakening Fragments
>>1137491As long as you don't need to waste rubies on that, it still sounds better than the pet system.I just hope the places where you drop these things don't ask for specialized teams because holy shit, that's the worst part of this game easily. Having so few teams and having to manually change your equipments for every single team if you decide that you want 2 different characters in 2 different teams to use the same equipment at different times is the reason why I don't farm arenas nor veterans nor anything aside from what I can beat with my main team, the time you waste on repeated team management is ridiculous and adds nothing but boredom to the experience.
>Pet System>Soul weaponsWhat the fuck is wrong with Square Enix?
>>1137500Oh jeez, SIX dupes of a specific character a pet? Oh wait, I think I'm misunderstanding. You should be able to trade any awakening stone in for 1000 frags, yeah? So any six dupes will do. But still, that's definitely whale territory as I imagine a regular player would be better off using those dupes to awaken their characters to make them stronger.>>1137491Yeesh, the definition of overly complicated. Not looking forward to minmaxing this shit.>>1137502Yeah, good equipment management systems are a must for games with large rosters of characters. If they're not going to let us share equipment across parties, they could at least let us save favourite loadouts like a couple other games I play do, that way you can fully equip someone with just two quick taps.
>>1137578Yeah pretty much. The Awakening stones are converted into 1000 Awakening Fragments, and the Awakening Fragments are traded for other Awakening Stones, pets and other things.
i haven't done any arena, whats the order from easiest to hardest? easiest as in being able to slot in more 4 stars
>>1137398thanks i really am retarded
What weapon set should I farm to last until soul weapons?
>>1138063Whatever the latest is. We only have Berserk (Physical Attack) and Inferno (SP) after this, if you don't plan to tackle Yan Long on release and thus won't be making Origin, just slacking off is a valid option.
>>1137682I think it depends on your roster. I've only done the first four arena champs and Glossom (the 2nd one) was the hardest for me because that fight really wants dark damage and dark is by far my weakest element. Ri'tu, the 4th one, was the easiest for me because she is weak to wind and my wind is quite stacked (having Odette, the limited character and best wind damage dealer, really helped). I think most people agree that Tikilen, the first champ, is also the easiest because she's the most powercrept when it comes to what weapons and armor are available.
Is it just me or is the lastest boss just awful?
>>1138375Shit’s getting real at this point. Each Master/Bestower has a field it puts out to make your life difficult:Herminia’s saps SPTytos’s saps BPAuguste’s sets a CountdownOhska’s causes Stillness which locks a skill for each turn you’re on the field.It’s when he hits you with the Can’t Switch moves combined with Sleep that you REALLY start to feel the screws tighten.Also, if Ohska boosts and you’re not prepared, consider yourself fucked. Not only does he use this move three times in a row, but you won’t be able to switch afterwards.However, don’t lose heart, if you can get Ohska deep into the red, Bargello and his mates will give you a quick pick-me-up so that you can unleash your finishing moves on the Bestower of Wealth.
Any strategies I can use against the Taciturn Housewife?
Gearing up for Yunnie cup but I don't have too many apothecaries that are ready for it. Should I prioritize Gertrude over Hasumi if I already have Lynette and Primrose tourney-ready, or are dancers better for the tourney overall? I also have Soleil that I could train up but she seems underwhelming (& I already have Theo at A4).
is there a weapon set that i dont have to farm elites everyday to make?
i blew my last 3k, got Lars and the pity, got that clown guy and some primrose along the wayfeels okay
>>1138422She does insane amounts of damage and her constant silences are an absolute pain in the ass to deal with. You want to debuff her attack immediately, preferably up to the 30% cap if you want to survive her attacks with any consistency, and have a plan against her status spam which in practice either means having Alfyn or potentially Theo's ultimate, but the latter is a bit more finicky. You really want to try to minimize the amount of turns spent on things that aren't breaking her shield because she's incredibly tanky and gets a crazy amount of shield points after the first break. Use allies to help you cap out buffs and debuffs with minimal downtime and to help with breaking.My team consisted of Cyrus and Elvis as the primary damage dealers, Therese to help cap out lightning def down on her and a typical support core with Lynette, Viola and Alfyn. I think I had Fiore in there as a backup breaker and damage dealer too, but I couldn't tell you the exact pairings anymore.
>>1138755Not a bad haul, I'm jelly about that Primrose.
>>1139093Thanks for the advice.I just recently scored Cyrus and Lars (also Molu) and I’m planning on making good use of them for the upcoming fight.
Can someone give me the TLDR for 60+ weapons? I don't understand why some are better in the arena and some are better in normal content. It makes figuring out what to commit to difficult..
When can we expect OT2 characters in jp? During the new story arc?
>>1139566The simple explanation is that the 60+ level weapons have a higher Grade than the others. Better weapons have higher grade which adds to the weapons’s power in addition to the weapon’s stats.In the Arena, the weapon Grade is removed from the equation making some weapons less powerful than others
>>1139578I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Hell, I don’t even know if the next Part takes place in Solistia.I’d say for now, wait for the next roadmap to appear. We’re getting one for both Global and JP.
>>1139566>>1139582To add to this, think of each "pip" (lil blue vertical bar) of a weapon's grade as an extra +40 atk/ele atk that's invisible and turns off in the arena.
>>1139566if you are just starting, just farm them all since you will need to beat those time gated elite enemies in order to +I, II, III... them
Falco confirmed for Wednesday. Next week we wait for W’ludai next Wednesday.
>>1139845I wish they'd give us the damn four stars.
>>1139845Really looking forward to seeing Falco’s sister, Canary.
Chances of Nier collab in 2 weeks?
>>1140429Nier-o percent chance.
>>1140429Pretty low in my opinion, I’d say give it until May before we even consider Nier. Though we are getting close to winding down on Chance Encounters:WARRIORS: Joshua, AedelgardMERCHANTS: Cecily, NonyaTHIEVES: SarisaAPOTHECARIES: Haze, Primrose EXHUNTERS: Chloe, Tressa EXCLERICS: Prome, YukesSCHOLARS: NinalinaDANCERS: Elenora, Lemaire, H’aanit EX
>>1140529should have said "Nier-ly nothing" but:>ya_blew_it.png
>step 1Neat, exactly what I was hoping to pull. Only need Olberic to have all the og 8 now too.
Thief & Dancer Banner>1000 rubies for a single round.>Only thieves/dancers in respective banner>10th Pull of 5th Step Guaranteed 1 of 4 5-Star thief/dancer>Banner lasts until 4/5>Rate for actually GETTING a 5-Stat is still fucking 4%!In other news, we’ll be getting details on Part 5 next week.
Anything of note with this current set of banners or should I just hold on to my rubies?
>>1141106The Thieves/Dancers Calling has only Thieves/Dancers.Doing the Step-Up only costs 1000 rubies.You can do infinite rounds instead of the normal four.It’s Chance Encounters only so the ones you’re gunning for are:THIEVES: Viola, Heathcote, Therion, NicolaDANCERS: Lynette, Primrose, Hasumi, Harley.The 10th pull of the 5th step gives you one of the four 5-Star Thieves/Dancers.Thing is, despite the reduction in travelers, you’re still dealing with a 4% Chance of getting a five star by normal means.I’d say this is the type of banner to pull if you’re a beginner in need to of catching up. Or if you have cash to burn and want to get duplicates. If you’re doing this just for one character, I’d say you’re better off saving your rubiesPersonally I’m hoping that Nicola will spook me later on.
>>1139093Thanks for the advice. Just conquered the Taciturn Housewife. That’s four down. Five more to go!Next stop: the Sea-Gazibg Graybeard!
My only 5* Dancer is Hasumi and I need Dark damage, so I figured this was worth it. I have a hoard of 7,700 anyways.Picrel is Step 4. A single Harley was Step 5. I never fell for the discount meme before and I shouldn't have today.
Funny story. Was planning to save rubies for the Scholar Calling since I was missing Cyrus and Molu. Then I got impatient and decided to go for Lars instead. Along the way I got:Molu (A1)H’aanit (A4) (final pull 1st round)Heathcote (A3)Fiore (Complete)Cyrus (final pull 2nd round)I ended up having to spark the bastard, but ended up getting the two scholars I needed. So there’s no need for me to do the Scholar’s calling when it comes out.Still missing is: Molrusso, Nicola, Kersjes, Soleil and W’ludai.
>>1141127>If you’re doing this just for one character, I’d say you’re better off saving your rubiesNta, I'm a day 1 vet, but fug, I desperately want Primrose. Didn't realize it was "only" gonna be 1000 rubies. Shit, I should probably skip though, right? I have A1 Lynette (with lv10 ult) and A2 Hasumi, missing Prim and Harley though I don't really care about Harley. I have 4800 rubies, I've been waiting to blow my load on NieR to get 2B and A2. I should probably go in on the Cleric banner whenever they release that, as I STILL don't have any 5* clerics except Agnes who won't even be in the pool.
>>1141127I don't have any 5* Dancers but I do have Viola.
>>1141238Average Step Up is a grand total of 1200 rubies. So 1000 is pretty cheap.It’s always good to hold off for the travelers you want, though with Nier we have no idea when it’s arriving. It could be as early as 3/22 or as late as May.By the way, as a start, you’ll want to get one of each class. But after Part 2, you’ll probably want to have at LEAST four of every job class (5-Stars that is) in order to form specialized teams for specific bosses such as the Arena Champions, the L100 Vetrrans and even the Bestowers themselves.Best of luck with your game. You’ll get Primrosr one way or another.
>>1141288Definitely get some dancers in your party, the odds are in your favor for a new thief as well.
>>1141304Thanks for the reply, let's see how many I have from each job not counting arena champs.>Warriors: 5>Merchants: 3>Thieves: 4>Apothecaries: 2>Hunters: 4>Clerics: 1 (ouch)>Scholars: 5>Dancers: 2Arena champs will eventually pump these up by +1. Yeah, I think I'll save for clerics and pray Prim finds her way home some day. I'm just glad Olberic, Kersjes, Mooloo and Ophelia are in the pool now for when I go all in on NieR.
>>1141398>Just barely scrounge up 1000 rubies since I'm fairly new>First step on the dancer banner>Get PrimIt was definitely worth it.
>>1141483Lucky! Dammit, you're tempting me but I'll keep holding.Also>there was another streamI really wish they'd announce this with in game notices like every other SE mobage that has streams. They did for the stream before this one, that wasn't even a real Tavern Talk. I keep missing them and I want to repeatedly @ them about the missing four stars.Did they show a new road map?
>>1141489Nope. Road map will be in the NEXT Tavern Talk.
>>1141513I should also add that the important Tavern Talks tend to fall on a Monday before the update occurs. So I’m thinking around 3/20 for this one,
Hopefully we see the new story arc, simultaneous OT2 character release with global and the Live a live collab.
>>1141646If Partitio ends up being summonable with his Negotiate Schedule EX Skill....
>>1141489I'm tempted, should I go all in on the dancer banner or should I do a single step on the Thief and Falco ones?Not touching Soleil again after failing the first time.
>>1141812Soleil‘a gone. Though you can probably spook her next month. And she’ll be in the Apothecary Calling.
>>1141917I wonder if it's better as a new player to do a single step in all of the calling banners.I have Kouren, Viola, Scarecrow and Primrose as my 5*s.
>>1141937if you don't have any mage, apothecary, or cleric 5*s it might be better to save for those banners. Viola and Primrose are already very good.
>>1141993>mageeugghh i meant "scholar"
>>1141937If you’re a new player looking to catch up, that’s a good way to go. Only issue is that you won’t be getting the latest ones. I would say take the new over the older ones though. You’ll get the older ones eventually. And definitely get the Sacred Blaze, Crossover and Seasonal Guidance.
Fair warning. Coming up sometime this summer we should be getting EX travelers. These are basically characters that have a different job class. They have different moves, use a different element and need to be raised from scratch. He’ll, they even have their own unique awakening stone (dick move).However, the EX travelers have the exact same stats as the original travelers, and cannot be in the same party as the originals.Something else to keep in mind: the EX travelers of the Original 8 are Chance Guidance. The rest are limited.Here’s what we’ve got so far:CHANCE GUIDANCE:Primrose EX - Thunder ApothecaryTressa EX - Fire HunterH’aanit EX - Fire DancerSUMMER SEASONALSofia EX - Wind Apothecary Fiore EX - Non-Elemental DancerWINTER SEASONAL Millard EX - Ice MerchantLumis EX - Thunder HunterMEMORY GUIDANCE Alaune EX - Ice/Dancer
I got him! I GOT HIM! HA HA HA HA HAAAaaahhh...!And on my first step up too!He’s only a 4/5 star...but not for LONG! Now I just gotta wait for his sister to show up!
>>1141993>>1142012So essentially, put in a single on the banners that I don't have 5* for then save for the big stuff later on in the game.
>>1142057I would do an entire round. You may get lucky and get two of them. You should have a full team by the time you reach Part 3.Once you get to part 3, start hoarding your rubies then. At some point in May we’re getting our next Sacred Blaze (probably Titi), sometime in the summer we’re getting Fiore and Sofia EX. And somewhere along the way we’re getting the Nier characters.Spend wisely. That’s the only way you’ll get a good team to use.
>>1142103I don't know what the economy in this game is like but I'm used to other gachas where you can't afford to spend willy nilly. That's why I'm concerned about spending poorly or overspending early on and being forced to wait for a long time when the well of freebies dry up.
>>1142121Lemme see if I can paint you a picture. For getting Rubies it goes kinda like this:Isla’s Letter - 10 Rubies, 30 Rubies every 10th day, 100 Rubies every 100 days.Daily Tasks - 5 RubiesWeekly Tasks - 30 RubiesDays that end with 8 (08, 18, 28) - 30 RubiesUpdates - 60 Rubies.That’s if you’re doing your daily dose. There’s also a series of feats you can perform and most of them will get you piddling amounts (2, 3, 5). There’s also some that net you some BIG rubies, such as going through the Arena, defeating the Veterans or leveling up Elvis.Also, you’ll want to do feats since they’ll raise your Influence. Every time you level up in Wealth, Power or Fame, you get 10 rubies.Plus there’s also special occasions where the developers give your rubies as presents for special occasions. (You won’t get more than 300 Rubies though...)
>>1142182Now for the spending. You can spend rubies on a number of thins, but if you’re smart, you’ll only use it on Guidance.One pull = 30 Rubies. And 10 pulls = 300 Rubies. This is used for Chance Guidance, and for non step-up character banners.Then you have Step-Ups which are important for two reasons. 1) it uses less rubies, 2)Guaranteed 5-Star at the end.For a regular character that uses Free Rubies a Step-Up tends to go like this:Step 1 - 150 RubiesStep 2 - 300 RubiesStep 3 - 150 RubiesStep 4 - 300 RubiesStep 5 - 300 Rubies (5-Star on the 10th pull)Each pull gives you 1 guidance fragment. Collect 200 and you can get the character’s Sacred Seal which allows you to spark him/her. Collect 100 and you can get a lesser quality one that allows you to guide him/her as a 4/5 Star. As I said, the Step Ups are important because you’re paying 1200 Rubies for something that normally costs 1500 and you’ll get a 5-Star in the mix.
>>1142186Then you have Fortuned Banners which requires PAID rubies. Ones you buy in the store with REAL money. A fortuned Step-Up looks kinda like this:Step 1 - 100 Paid RubiesStep 2 - 200 Paid RubiesStep 3 - 300 Paid RubiesStep 4 - 300 Paid RubiesStep 5 - 300 Paid Rubies (5-Star at the last pull, 50% Chance it’s your guy!)In addition, for 100 Character Fragments, you can spark your traveler as a 5-Star.
>>1142190Sacred Blaze Guidance is a special banner, which occurs every three months and allows you to get limited characters (so far there are seven of them). And there are no 3-Stars included.However it’s pretty shitty for two reasons:1) The chances of getting a 5-Star are STILL only 4%.2) No Step-Ups (so far)This means that in order to Spark a Sacred Blaze Character, you will need to spend 6000 Rubies. Yeah...it’s that bad. But the characters you can get are worth it.
>>1142031Congrats! You inspired me to do the first step on Falco (got nothing from Dancer first step) and while I didn't get him, I finally got my first ever Sophia dupe! Would've been really nice to have a minute ago when I used her to beat Bestower of Wealth.Speaking of BoW, God that was a wild final fight. I went in blind because that's how I do all story stuff, so I used my main team who has one of each damage type. So vs a dagger/ice/shadow boss I was fucked with just Viola/Cyrus/Fiore respectively. Ended up going back in with an optimized team and the first time I broke Oskha, Therion landed paralysis and for the first time ever, I saw paralysis work on a boss. It stopped Oskha's first action on the turn after break which means he never got rid of one of his weaknesses! Pretty crazy RNG stuff, but it ultimately didn't matter as my best team for that fight didn't rely on dark element anyway.Great fight, really looking forward to the other Bestowers, especially BoP.This game is way too well done for a mobage. There was this brilliant moment halfway through Chapter 3 of Bestower of Wealth when you confront Oskha on the balcony of Herminia's Manse and he gets angry, slashing suddenly with his sword and knocking over a table. The animation on that was so smooth and fluid, and it truly surprised me that objects in the environment would actually be interacted with in that way like it was a 3D console game.Oh, I have a big and important question: where the hell do I go to enhance Origin weapons? This update added new weapons but not a new town, a first for this game. I thought maybe because the chapter was about Valore, they'd alter the blacksmith there to allow enhancing weapons but nope.
>>1142207Congratulations! Sofia’s one of the few 5-Stars I have not been able to awaken. And yeah, Bestower of Wealth is a wild ride.By the way, you upgrade the Origin weapons at Sufrataljah. The next one’s upgraded in Grandport. The last BT weapon upgrades in the 2nd town in the Highlands. I’ll find out the name once the Roadmap drops sometime next week-ish.
>>1142196>6000 to sparkOuch, these better be some of the best of the best.
>>1142230>By the way, you upgrade the Origin weapons at Sufrataljah.Thank you!>I’ll find out the name once the Roadmap drops sometime next week-ish.I'm gonna assume it's Everhold since I saw that name pop up somewhere today (maybe in an NPC's flavour text?).>>1142240We've gotten three in global so far and I can't speak to Lianna or Dorothea because I skipped them, but I have Odette and she's god tier. Best wind and light mage and even though she was the first one we got and it was quite a while ago, she's still top class.
>>1142240Some real gems in there, but going pure 6000 without Step-ups is brutal. It’s why we NEED them. And we should let the developers know we need them.
>>1142240Honestly, I’d say the only bad Sacred Blaze traveler so far would be Dorothea. A great nuker with both spear and Fire, but a terrible breaker. She also desperately needs to be A2 to be fully functional.And even then that’s only because she was meant to be the first Sacred Blaze character, not the third.
I got to thinking...Falco’s storyline has a different feel to it once you realize that Canary is playable.That being said...I’m making a prediction here and now. Fiore’s girlfriend, Mika will be a playable character come Part 5!
If we’re doing two callings per month, we should see who we’re getting so far...WARRIORS: Fiore, Kouren, Eliza, Lionel, Olberic, LarsMERCHANTS: Gilderoy, Tressa, Cardona, W’ludaiAPOTHECARIES: Theo, Alfyn, Lumis, SoleilHUNTERS: Scarecrow, H’aanit, Z’aanta, Kersjes, JillmeilaCLERICS: Millard, Ophilia, Molrusso, Stead, SCHOLARS: Sofia, Cyrus, Therese, Molu
>>1142207Yup, the presentation of this chapter was top notch. In the beginning, I had a pretty minor complaint that you couldn't see just how the characters were feeling due to the lack of portraits. Oskha emoted a lot on chapter, and to top it all off, this scene was just, wow.
>>1132982>>1133015>rerolled for a good account to start>only must haves I had looking at JP were bravely default and nier>saved all my rubies so I could pull Edea and Agnes>that felt like an eternity ago>have been saving all my gems since then for 2B and A2>have totally lost motivation to play because I'm still waiting for those characters>basically haven't done anything since beating master of all>nowadays I just open app, claim mail, close app>if I'm feeling particularly energetic I'll auto a few hunts>check /vmg/ bread every few weeks to see if there's anything about nier coming up (there never is of course)I wish they'd just release nier already so I can start playing again
>>1143066If it helps, I’m predicting that Nier will come out sometime between April and June. Yeah, I know it’s a lotta months in between, but picture this:>Late March - Bestower of Power 3>April - Bestower of Fame 3>May - Final Chapter (III)>June - PART 4: Bestower of All 1While Nier is the next crossover game, the one after that is Triangle Strategy. Thing is, the Triangle Strategy crossover introduces a new mechanic. So it HAS to occur sometime during Bestower of All.The Summer Seasonals (Fiore EX and Sofia EX) are gonna be in the summer, along with the introduction of EX units in general, so I suspect June is out of the question. With the Sacred Blaze occurring once every three months, I suspect that will occur in May. So sometime around April/Early May is looking like a good candidate.Don’t lose heart. Just keep doing your dailies. And be sure to grind your characters too. The Nier characters are good, but around Part 3 is where you’ll start to need to use specialized teams because bosses will start getting tougher.
>>1143101I'm probably straight up fucked on specialized teams desu. I have like ten 4.5-5* characters in total, definitely not enough to make a specialized team. I'm probably a ways off from part 3 though, I haven't done anything past master of all. Not even elite hunts or those cups or anything.I don't even do dailies really, I just get the mail and see if nier is out yet and then close the game until the next day.
>>1143105Dude... stop being a dumbass.Do your daily/weekly tasks. That’s like 65 rubies a week you’re missing out on and you’ll need rubies to get 2B, 9S and A2.Also make the hints part of your routine. If you can do one normal hunt, one expert hunt and one other world hunt, you’ll get 15 character Guidestones per day. That shit adds up quickly towards breaking your level cap and making your party stronger.Watch the fucking ads. They’re annoying as hell, but you can get some random goodies from it and fight carts for guaranteed experience points.And if you’re powerful enough, take on the Sable Dragon. That’s 250,000 experience points a day.By the way, if you’ve defeated the Master of All and are starting Bestower of Wealth/Power/Fame, you’re already on Part 3.
>>1143105Even during my laziest of days, I at least still do enough dailies to get the 5 daily rubies.
>>1143313>>1143329I already have the rubies ready for the collab, is the thing. I'm just waiting on the characters to drop. Idk what or where sable dragon is but I doubt I could beat it. My main team is at the level cap (at least the 80 one) so the hunts I've been doing are just leveling random 4* characters in case I need them later. Idk how to do expert or world hunts so I'm stuck with normal for now. Basically all these exp and stuff that will help my party in the future is hard to quantify for me, because its all contingent on a collab that afaik has been delayed to shit and might not ever come for all I know. Those seals that let you turn 4.5* cucked characters into real 5*s were the main motivation I did hunts after I got level capped but since the recent logins gave us one of each I have those stocked (I never even got one doing hunts either lol)I'd have to actually start part 3 to see what its all about but I hope its not as restrictive as it sounds. Because if I can't actually use the favorite characters I saved and pulled for that would literally be a game ender. That's what made me enjoy the game so much up to master of all.
>>1143401you have enough to get 5 copies each?
>>1143414No, and even if I'd earned and saved every possible ruby since launch I don't think I would have enough for that without some luck involved.I have enough to pity one copy of each. And with any luck I get a copy on the way to that pity so they at least get the stat boost from first awakening. Unless something about the game has changed since then (I'd be surprised, that's not typically the mobage fuck players), that should be enough for my purposes.
>>1143401Ho boy... where do I even begin?You know that 3-Stars cap at L40, 4-Stars cap at L60 and 5-Stars cap at L80. However, you can use Guidestones to raise their cap up to 20 levels maxing them out at 60/80/100 respectively.Thing is, get character Guidestones is a BITCH. And you’ll need 2000 of them to raise the cap to the character’s max level. That goes for ALL characters regardless of class. One way to get character Guidestones is to get them in your pulls:60 for 3-Stars, 80 for 4-Stars and 100 for 5-Stars. The only OTHER way to get character Guidestones is by using Hunts. You’ll get:20 Guidestones for 3-Stars10 Guidestones for 4-Stars 5 Guidestones for 5-StarsAnd if you go on your daily hunts you can do 3 different hunts a day and score 15 Character Guidestones for your 5-Stars. If you were to do this every day, you’ll be able to lift the cap and turn your level 80 travelers to level 100 travelers.
>>1143492To get the expert hunts you need to first do one regular hunt. Then do a sub quest in that town where you get medals or something for doing path actions with the townsfolk. Get five of them and your expert hunt will unlock. I assume you’ve done Elvis’s side quest so that’s three different kinds of hunts that are unlocked.
>>1143493As for the Black Dragon well... you know those Elite monsters you run across? They appear in the Bonfire of Battle when you defeat one. When you get ALL the Elite Monsters in one area, you can then fight an Elite BOSS monste.Fight all eight of the Elite Boss monsters in each area:FrostlandsFlatlands CoastlandsHighlands Sunlands RiverlandsCliftlandsWoodlandsAnd then a ninth area will unlock. The lair of the Black Dragon. If you can beat him, you’re in good shape. Ideally you’ll want to be able to trounce him every day. He’s worth the daily experience points.
>>1142624>That being said...I’m making a prediction here and now. Fiore’s girlfriend, Mika will be a playable character come Part 5!I certainly hope so! Fiore's my fave CotC gal other than maybe Gertrude. She's been my "main" character since the start and was my tutorial 5*.>>1142638>WARRIORSI'm missing Olberic and Lars. Olberic is my boy, but I'll probably have to skip just like Prim and it fuckin' hurts.>MERCHANTSW'ludai's not even out yet, right? I'll be skipping because if they were, I have the other three.>APOTHECARIESMissing Alfyn and Soleil and I'm wondering if it's worth 1000 rubies just for a chance of Alfyn. I really need that guy for high difficulty content and speedier arena clears if I ever wanna farm arena frags.>HUNTERSI have all of them but Kersjes, who's voiced by my favourite VA. Skipping this will hurt just as much as skipping his original banner.>CLERICSNOW WE'RE TALKING! I am a day 1 player and somehow missing ALL of those. The only 5* cleric I have is Agnes. I'm going all the way on this one for sure.>SCHOLARSJust missing Mooloo, which means another painful skip for me.>>1142652Yeah, a number of unique sprite animations and poses popped in this chapter that I hadn't seen before, great stuff.>>1143101>May - Final Chapter (III)Without spoiling any details, is the final chapter of the three Bestower storylines really worth a whole month? The previous final chapters were just little epilogues iirc with one boss fight and a short dungeon.
>tower asks me to fight BT weapons guys>cant copy paste my team:/
Question: this game says I can play at my own pace, but I'm concerned that if I go too slow, my progress will be locked behind content that assumes I have the strongest characters and equipment from the paid gacha. Should I hustle?For reference, I've recorded 50 days of logins and have yet to start chapter 2 of the Master of All storyline.
>>1143513I’ve basically got most of the units. Missing Nicola, Molrusso, Kersjes and Soleil.Gonna hold off on W’ludai just to see who comes after him. I was considering doing the Scholar Calling but ended up getting my missing scholars, Molu and Cyrus while pulling for Lars. Considering going for the Apothecary Calling since I’m about to cap all four of my apothecaries (Theo, Alfyn, Gertrude, Lumis).As for the Final Chapter (III)...honestly, I don’t know. It could be a sub-update like with the Arena fights. The Roadmap will give us more details, but from what I’ve seen of the previous final chapters they’re short and sweet with a simple boss fight. It really feels more like an epilogue than a finale.
>>1143546>my progress will be locked behind content that assumes I have the strongest characters and equipment from the paid gachahow would your pace overcome this?
>>1143546There’s no real content lock you’ll be facing. You might be under-leveled for some stuff but that’s nothing that experience nuts, Ad-Caits and armor grinding can’t solve.There’s just two issues you’ll be facing. First off, the game expects you to play EVERY DAY. That’s how you get your rubies, Guidestones and guidestone fragments (as well as leveling up).Second issue you’ll be facing...is Guidance. The chances of scoring a 5-Star is 4% (2% for a 5-Star, 2% for a 4/5-Star). No matter HOW many 5-Star travelers they put in. Meaning that getting the characters you want outside the promotional banners becomes harder and harder (which is why we have things like the Thieves/Dancers Calling)
>>1143578I'm not really sure. I was just assuming that getting the welfare materials from story progression sooner rather than later would lessen the grind to get prepared for later story chapters more manageable than otherwise.>>1143590Yeah, I'm pretty sure the daily login is my sticking point. I have to wrangle Bluestacks every time I try to log in because my phone's a budget model that refuses to run the app, and I've been distracted trying to clear all the achievements in OT2 recently, so I'm falling behind.
I just finished Master of Fame and I must say that Auguste was an entertaining antagonist. I wonder what happens if you have Primrose as your leader during the cameo scenes with Simeon.Also; these are my strongest charactersNoelle (3), Molrusso (4), Kouren, Merrit, Viola, Aslyte, Peredir, Scarecrow, Barrad, Mabel and Primrose. I wonder if there's anything I should do or team comp adjustments before moving on to the next arc.
>>1143608Try to make Molrusso into a 5-Star. Also, you’ll want to use your Guidestones to raise the caps of your 4-Stars to at least 65...while Use the rest to get their third Awakening ASAP.
>>1143656I would turn Molrusso into a 5* if I had the stuff to do so. I'm kind of just bumbling around with random characters because I don't know how to form a proper team.
>>1143666The best way to start is with a balanced team.You’ll need one of each job: Warrior, Merchant, Thief, Apothecary, Hunter, Cleric, Scholar and Dancer.You’ll also want to cover each element: Fire, Ice, Thunder, Wind, Light and Darkness. There’s only six elements so there’s gonna be overlap.And you’ll want all of your teammates to be 5-Stars. Do those three things and you’ll be Golden.A well-balanced team will carry you far. It’ll get you through many dungeons, and regular bosses. It’s also good for getting all the weaknesses out of the way.However, as you get to the more advanced bosses, the ones with gimmicks like the Arena Champions. Or ones with a turn limit like the Veterans. A well-balanced team will not be enough. You’ll need to gather......A SPECIALIZED TEAM. One you use for that specific boss. There is no easy solution to this one...rather...the solution to this is to gather more travelers.Best of luck to you on this one. Save your rubies for some good travelers...spend them to get more travelers...And hope that Lady Luck is on your side and you’ll hit that 4% you so desperately need!
is there a weakness list for the enemies in the tower?
>>1143724yeah that and the other one
Is there an online party builder?
>>1143492>>1143495I guess I can't really appreciate the weight of that stuff since its never been a factor for me before. I'm sure I'll hit the character level cap wall soon enough when I start really going at it again, and hopefully its not too bad. I've still been getting a fair amount of them with hunts (not the 15 a day, but it is what it is). It doesn't really solve the problem anyways since whenever I get the nier girls my party will be cucked because they won't have been grinding hunts this whole timeAs for the dragon it seems kinda weird. It seems more like an end-game leveling option. Even if hypothetically I could defeat it, the characters strong enough to do so wouldn't be the ones I really could use the exp on the most.But as dumb as it might sound all of this is kind of moot without nier anyways. Even if its stuff that benefits my account, its still content I want to run with characters I like.
i just beat tikilen, my first arena unitis it really only 8 currency a kill? its gonna take forever to get her to 100also how do i awaken her?
Are we getting solo job banners for the other classes in the near future? Seriously tempted to do a single on the Apothecary one.
>>1143782Same here, and I’m seriously don’t know if i should do the rest because im 6 months behindYou need to kick her ass 13 times to get her exclusive accessory, and if i were u i will stop at that. Use hints to get her guidestones because fuck that.The awakening stones shit will come alongside “Job tower” shit that is coming up later. Example: “Sword job tower” will ask you to use team with only sword users
>>1132871>farmed my ass for level 4 Atlas and Maaden weapons, alongside armors>SE : “HEY THERE! HERE IS ORGIN ITEMS”>”THERE ARE MORE TYPES COMING UP”I’m seriously sick of this, can i just do the upcoming champion with the shit i made?Maybe i will do 2 orgin swords but that’s about it.
>>1143825Min-maxing equipment is a waste of time. I made a fully upgraded weapon or two every update with the mats from first clears and was able to clear all content except the last 3 lvl100 npcs
>>1143825This is why the last weapon I seriously farmed was Sacred. Although I'm farming Origin right now because the extra HP sounds nice. After Origin, I'll just wait for Fortune weapons.
>>1143919Problem is the souls you generate for soul weapons are pretty random.
>>1143964>soul weaponsIt is for this exact shit is why I will go for what >>1143854 and >>1143919 have suggested.
now begins my long grind to 90+ tiki wins...
>>1143703Let's seeWarrior: Sword + LightMerchant: Lance + FireThief: Dagger + Fire/IceApothecary: Axe + LightHunter: Bow + WindCleric: Staff + WindScholar: Tome + Fire/WindDancer: Fan + Dark/ThunderA bunch of overlap here, I'll have to roll a bit on the class specific rate ups.
>>1132871I decided to try this game again and getting Lars in my first tenfold pull on his banner is making me more open to giving it an earnest shot. But what the fuck is up with the free ruby offers? Most of these aren’t actually free and the ones that are seem like a really good way to install some sort of virus on my phone.
>>1144114just ignore those
>>1144351W'ludai is this week.>>1134914We'll probably need to wait for the Tavern Talk (not announced yet) for next week.
>>1144479We also have 1-2 of every job for Chance Guidance left...three dancers though...Cecily looks like a good candidate for Yan Long (Merchant/Light), though they could just as easily do Eleanor (Dancer/Ice), the only normal dancer left.
>>1132871When should I take the time to grind out equipment for my party? I’m on the Level 65 story quest and most of my squad is using level 40 equipment. I felt like I was doing fine up until now, where it feels like the random encounters have spiked in difficulty. Where should I go if I do grind for gear?
>>1144666Which story quest is that? If it's the last chapter of Master of All, feel free to farm some level 60 meteor gear in the castle, though do that after getting all the chests as there's some free level 60 gear to be found in there.After Master of All is where the good gear starts becoming available, with each new chapter coming with a new town with new and better gear (currently Origin gear is best, available from the areas in Chapter 3 of Bestower of Wealth). Though the key for that will be getting battle-tested (BT) weapons from defeating the level 85 NPC in each of the first towns of the 8 regions. That's a long term goal though, I'd just grind up some level 60 gear for now like I said at the start of this post.Remember: if you hit a wall, just go the latest dungeon/area you've unlocked and grind whatever gear is made from the mats that drop there.
I love the golden palace OST.
>>1144878It's been stuck in my head for days now ever since finishing BoW. I keep catching myself humming or singing it, it's a great version of the main BoW theme.
>>1144878Only two months until we can have those tracks names
>>1144878This one is great as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj8QSdVqt-w
got the accessory and did her story, 81 more runs to finish tiki haha...
W’ludai confirmed. Honestly had no idea she was a girl. And so far she’s the only Dark Merchant.Damn...I kinda want her now. But I don’t wanna spend the rubies...Goddamn I don’t know what to do...she’s a perfect addition to dealing with Floor 50 EX2 for of the Ultimate Tower. That one floor is STILL giving me trouble.
>>1145093I can't beat any of the floor 50 EX stages, it sucks. Well, I've only tried the first two to be fair, but still.
>>1145093might as well go for her if you want her, since you have a chance at pulling a random in the future for the awakening, unlike collab units
>>1145098Speaking of the EX stages, did anyone take a look at the latest ones?EX 1 - Fame(F60)/Wealth(F70) onlyEX 2 - 5-Stars onlyEX 3 - 4-Stars or less onlyEX 4 - 4 Party MembersNot even sure how I’m gonna do half of those things!
>Thought that Elvis was one of the few good parts of BD2>Excited to get him as a free unit>See the requirements to make him into a proper unitGee, thanks...
>>1145358I almost cleared 60 EX4 with Therion/Ophilia, Cyrus/Alfyn but I got killed because I forgot armor actually matters here because grade is taken into account. I'll try again after I get Origin armor. Also, that's 4 OG8 travelers I was using! Feels like playing the original Octopath.For EX3, I'll just wait for merchant ultimates because I heard Pia's is very good, close to Lynette levels of good because it's a PAtk + Speed buff.
>>1145358>EX 3 - 4-Stars or less onlyitsover.jpg
>>1145368im under a month away to finish mine :)
>>1145467I'm almost at A3 for Elvis. Would be far, far faster if I could beat the level 100 NPC, but I've been saving that until after I clear the latest 2 arena champs. And I've been saving THAT for after I get caught up on gear.
>>1145368Currently on A3. Just getting started on my A4 awakening stone. Another month should do it. You just gotta whittle away at it hunt by hunt.
62 more battles to finish tiki haha...
Who’s ready to get their asses handed to them tomorrow?
>>1145811Not me. I'll wait until I see next week's unit.
>>1145811Implying i've done any arena finals.
>>1145811Another one already? Still have Gertrude and Yunnie to do.
>>1145811I will try at least. But I have zero hopes about getting the challenge rubies
Official Live A Live announcement!
I'm at a loss, this merchant girl looks like a good addition but I've heard that an even better merchant is coming along soon.
Oersted and Streibough only? Flop collab confirmed.
Oersted and Streibough are confirmed to be playable!...that's all?Well, whatever. I'm outta the stream. I only wanted to see who are going to be playable.
hopefully Alethea is the free unit and it isn't just these two, she's literally in the event.
I fucking hate the crows
Oersted is free. He looks mid but has a 4 hit sword aoe.
>another filler weekjust give us nier ffs
>>1146092No it isn’t. There’s another Part of the Live a Live collar on the March 30th. I’m guessing we’re getting Uranus (Cleric) and Hasshe (Warrior) on this one.Also, come April we’re getting Bestower of All’s Epilogue. Which is also getting split into two parts. I say “we” but it’s Japan that’s getting all this stuff.>>1146200>Implying it’s all filler unless Nier is in it. You might wanna go outside for awhile and clear your head. Maybe touch some grass and get in touch with reality once again. We already knew from the Datamine what we were getting this week. Though it looks like next week is the major question mark. I’m putting my money on Cecily next week as she’s an EXCELLENT person to bring to Yan Long. She’s got spears, axe, tome and light all wrapped up in one.
The longer we go without NieR, the more nervous I get that the gap between it and Triangle Strategy will be much smaller than the gap between Bravely Default and NieR. I gotta get Roland and Frederica.Speaking of collabs, I really, really hope global lasts long enough to get Live A Live. When Megalomania started playing in the collab trailer, I instantly jammed out and got excited at the thought that it'd be in this game. I really gotta finish LaL, it was easily the best RPG I played last year.
>>1146272Serious question here. At what point goes the game board get introduced? I know we get it on Bestower of All, but in which part?That and the Road Map will help me gauge when Triangle Strategy is coming out.
>>1146281No idea, I don't know that much about JP, sorry.
>Yan Long voiced by TsudakenHe's competing with Yoko Hikasa for most voiced characters in this game it seems like, that's at least three so far.
>Haha i bought all your resources and now you've got nothing but gold, see how worthless is it!!!>Oh let's go to other towns to buy resources thus sharing the gold with others!>NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT MY MINIONS WILL KILL YOU!!
>>1146343The only defense of his stupidity is that he's insane, but yeah, he's a pretty dumb villain despite being stylish with a banger of a theme.
>New player with about ~1300 rubies>Lacking in a 5* merchant so I decide to roll for the one on rate up>End up getting a random Therion and a limit break version of a 4.5 that I ownWell okay?
>>1146377Yep, much better than getting the new chick. Like how I did one step on Nicola's and got 4.5* Theo instead. Congrats!
>>1146399Well I kind of wanted her since I went through the trouble of doing all the steps and her dark damage would sync up well with Prim. But I can't complain about effectively getting two 5*s and a 4.5 out of it.
>>1146400Oh, you did all the steps? That kinds hurts then, sorry.
>>1146434I have negative luck with the step up banners. I don't think I want to do the 5 steps again for her especially since the intent was to save until when the summer characters come along.
Tressa > Long
>>1146448I hear you, man. I tend to be disciplined enough to do the first step-up, but the only one I’ve gotten through this method was Falco.And I definitely need to save my rubies. We’ve got big stuff coming up. We’re running out of Chance Guidance characters. We have Titi coming in May. The Summer EX units in Summer. And we’ll probably be getting Nier sooner rather than later.I just wish we had our next roadmap.
>That final battle theme in the JPA shame about what happened to that channel.
>>1146459I'll have to skip anything that comes out between March and April even if its Nier. I got to save and judging by what i've read about past rate ups, there's no way I can afford to get them in April.
just 43 more battles to finish tiki haha....
This fight is some grade A horse shit if you're not a big fat whale. The sheer amount of damage he puts out is just ridiculous.
>>1147136You’re going to LOATHE fighting Hammy when she arrives.
My current team I’m using to fight Yan Long. Seems to work for awhile...but I find that when the fight is prolonged, I run out of SP. Those damned birds don’t help matters either.
>>1147312I should actually post the picture of said team, shouldn’t I?
>>1147313>fully awakened Edea>Ophilia and Olberic, both awakened>fully awakened Theo>AlfynYeah, I'm not gonna touch this fight for months.
>>1147365Yeah, no matter how strong the team is, Yan Long hits like a fucking truck. It doesn’t help that he acts two or three times per turn.
>>1147403I'm missing half of your characters, but do any of those moves they have debuff? Because if taking a lot of damage is a factor and you're not max debuffing his atk/eatk, then that's a problem that's easily solved.
>>1147409Nope. There’s no debuffing moves here. He cleanses himself at the end of every turn and removes all his debuffs (except when he’s broken).Basically any debuffing moves you inflict on him will be removed at the end of the turn.
>>1147409>then that's a problem that's easily solved.anon...
>>1147444>>1147449Well, shit. That's just not fair. Though if he doesn't cleanse at the end of each round, couldn't you keep him debuffed by recasting it each turn? Sort of like how even though Varkyn's wisp dispels your buffs, a fast dancer like Lynette who acts before the rest of your team can still keep you buffed so long as she's dancing every turn.
>>1147456Meant to say "does his", not "doesn't".
>>1147456>>1147458Well you COULD be constantly debuffing him every turn, but you’re basically wasting an action you could be using to break him, or heal your party or even get rid of those stupid crows of his!You only get four actions per turn and when you’re dealing with tough cookies like this one every action counts.Best case scenario is you lower his defense RIGHT BEFORE breaking him or lowering his attack RIGHT AFTER breaking him. Even better would be if you had attacks that also lowered stats like Fiore’s Crumbling Cut.
>>1147477Yeah, Crumbling Cut was what I was thinkin'. God I love Fiore.
>TEN large supreme nuts from the nut garden today>mfw
less than 30 more battles to finish tiki haha...who is the next easiest one?
>>1147772Ri’tu by a country mile.
Seems like we could be getting nier collab as soon as march 22
>>1147920>have less than 200 rubiespls no
>>1147921Some people on reddit said they saw a official twitter post about nier collab giveaway from mar 22 to 31 before it got deleted. And it seems the post itself got deleted by the mods, so yeah
Post your ruby count NOW!Looks like I won't be reaching 10k, but it's still above 6k so I'm pretty safe.
>>1148017I can probably get to 6k, but barely, if the collab continues until mid-april. Maybe I shouldn't have pulled on the dancer's banner even though it got me lynetter I waited so long for
can i finally play this on emu? maybe i should start a new account for nier...
>>1148047I can play on bluestacks pie 64 bit no problem.
Check in game notices, Nier is confirmed! Well, just teased for now. But now we know for sure that it's happening very soon.
>>11480172014. I didn’t plan on Nier being so soon. If they don’t have a good deal, or at least spread it out over the month of April, then it’s gonna have to be a hard pass for me.
>>1147136>TheroinFucking why? You need someone to boost up the defenses such as Glossom
>>1145358EX 3 - 4-Stars or less onlyit won't be bad if they released the remaining 4 stars.. like fucking seriously what the fuck is the hold up?
>>1148221I hope SE don't fuck up this time. And maybe get afflicted by a change of heart, showering us with goodwill....one can wish
>>1148221Nice, how much is a spark for the collab? I'm wondering if I should go for a1 a2.
>>1148260People don't spend their precious rubies on a 4*.
>Only 1k rubiesIt's over.
>>1148292On JP, it was 200 pulls. (6000 rubies)It may or may not change for EN, but considering this is a pretty big event, prepare for the worst. But we can still hope for the best, I guess.
Well I just started the Master of All section and these are my 5*s. No plans on rolling for anyone for the next few months since I have like ~150 Rubies.Is this a good starting point to hoard until Summer?
>Inb4 Nier banner is paid ruby only
>>1148367Been here day 1 (day 2 technically, spent the entirety of the first day rerolling) and I have been following some anon's guide regarding focusing on permanent units first. https://arch.b4k.co/vmg/thread/939713/#q949469Basically, your permanents will always outstat your limiteds because of the potential spook dupes. He recommended pulling Alfyn, Ophilia, Cyrus, Therion, Z'aanta, Sophie, Cecily, Viola and Lynette. I'm only missing Cecily now because she's not released yet. And in the event you REALLY want some limiteds, he recommended A2 and Richard/Rondo. The only thing I don't agree with him is the notion that all permanent warriors are shit. Wrath is clearly up there. However, the warrior powercreep is indeed insane in JP so I can see where he's coming from. Also, here's my ruby spending history. As you can see, I abused the hell out of the 100 pull sparks, and got lucky on banners that had 200 pull spark. 300 rubies - initial reroll1200 rubies - Sophie/Fiore step up150 rubies - Lumis/Stead step up1300 rubies Z'aanta step up3000 Therion1080 Alfyn3000 Cyrus3000 Ophilia/Olberic (didn't get Olberic lol)
how long until nier rerun haha....
>>1148017I'm at 4798, been saving for this! It might not be 6000 but I have 86 characters and have only done like 5 traveler's stories, so I think I have around 1800 rubies left in there. Gonna be burning through those soon! Plus I haven't touched Yunnie cup or Yan Long cup, lots more rubies in there too. I also haven't fought any of the level 100 NPCs, but I think I'm strong enough to beat at least one or two. I'm just praying it's 3000 for a spark/pity like with the Bravely collab.
>>1148377Roll on apothecary banner and if you get theo or alfyn, you are set
>>1148017Around 2.8k but I haven't done the tournament stuff yet or traveler stories. I expect them to pull the same shit as the Adelle banner because A2 is pretty meta,
>>11482212,671, but I haven't spent any and I'm only on Master of All chapter 3. Are the 1k job step ups common? I couldn't find a full banner history when I tried looking.
>>1148532>Are the 1k job step ups common?The two we just got, dancer+thief are the first ones we've ever gotten.
>>1148457Ha, I'm better prepared than you, because I expect the worst. Adele is nobody compared to A2 in terms of popularity and they completely went on a rampage with her banner just to test the reaction. They're also perfectly aware of how popular and useful she is, especially now when Yan Long is here and Cecily is not. They're going to use some drastic shit on her banner>no pity>ONLY PAIDAnd no step-up discounts on top of that.
What are the chances they do three separate banners (one for 9S, one for 2B and one for A2) like they did with Bravely Default instead of just one?
>>1148675I thought NieR banners were separate on JP? I heard the way they got 9S (the free character) was the first pull on his banner was free and guaranteed him in the tenth slot.
>>1148736Nope. In Japan, the three Nier characters were in a single banner. 9S was guaranteed on the first Step.And while I heard that the final pull was guaranteed one of the Nier characters, 9S was among those characters.
>>1148810Oh no. Oh that's horrible. Oh God, please let me get lucky! I've been waiting since before launch for these ladies!
4 more battles to finish tiki haha...
>>1148810>And while I heard that the final pull was guaranteed one of the Nier characters,if you are talking about the free 10 pull, there was no such guarantee. Only one 9S is guaranteed but there's a chance that you can pull the other chars in the free pull.https://www.4gamer.net/games/452/G045223/20220228123/
>>1149017Nice, I bet you're done by now! I should start my Tiki grind soon, can you post your team?
>>1149338under 15 min a run
>Only 1400 rubiesI don't want to submit to tapjoy....
>>1149402Good stuff. I have Z'aanta and H'aanit so I'll probably swap them in for some of your 4* hunters. Odette over Eliza and I was just watching a crazy whale vid that beats Tikilen in four turns which I can't replicate, but I can put my lv10 ultimate Billy on the squad to speed it up.>>1149471>tapjoyDon't do it bro, it's not worth it. Even if you want the NieR chars and can't get them this time, JP has shown that this is a game that does rerun collabs unlike some mobage out there.
>>1149474theres an 8k reward....
Best way to level up?
>>1149485Nuts from farm, nuts from Auguste, Caits.
>>1149484You don't realize what that truly costs.
I finally beat the Sufraltaja 100 npc but I rng rigged a sleep proc after the first break. I feel so dirty.
spent the last few hours trying to farm caitsits fucking sucks
>>1149662Yeah. ad caits+sable dragon+2 snow caits+hunts are my daily exp grind sources and gives about 1.5 million exp, which is just enough to not suffer from guidestone bottleneck
>>1149692Guidestone Bottleneck. Now there’s an apt turn of phrase. I have the perfect team ready to make good work of Yan Long. The problem is it requires Lars to be at level 90. Right now he’s at 85.A good five days is all I need. I’m glad they extended this to the 30th.
i manged to scrounge up 1k rubies, maybe i will skip nier, who is the next must have, that also has discount steps banner and a pity at 10 pulls?
>>1148278Oh, maybe they are really going for goodwill this time. they are giving us 600 rubies through daily dev letters alone (30 each day for 20 days, it seems like), while in jp it is 600 in total from dev presents and event feats. Means we will be getting more rubies
I can get to 6k before the collab ends!
Anything I should know about 9S, 2B and A2 before I take the plunge and go for the next Crossover Characters?
I swear to God, if they make this a fortuned banner, I’m gonna be PISSED.
>>1149986The step-up is paid only in jp. There's the normal banner for free rubies but got shit rates for the collab chars.
>>1149983a2 is the bestthats it
How many rubies would it take to guarantee 2B and A2?
>>1150038Pray for the generosity of Square Enix.
>>1150038paid or not paid ;)
>>11500386000 paid rubies.
>>1150052>>1150045>>1150043I'm sitting on about 4500 unpaid rubies atmAnd I've got a fair bit more in character stories I haven't done yet.
>>1150060oh ok 12000 free
>>1149881I don't trust this. I mean the devs, not you, Anon. They could use this as an excuse to get rid of rubies from other collab sources.I really, really hope the banner works like the Edea and Agnes banners.
>>1150078>really hope the banner works like the Edea and Agnes bannersThat would be the best case for everyone. I hope they do it.
Finally got around to logging in for today and reading the notices. Glad there's a stream tomorrow so I can yell at SE to add the missing 4 stars. The key is to not let them forget, as the community managers are known to pass things along to the higher ups if they see it mentioned enough.I noticed the notice for the upcoming collab says >Obtain 9S, 2B, and A2 from NieR: Automata in brand new guiding lights.>lightsThat implies there will be more than one banner. Which might just be the normal one with all three chars and a separate paid only step up. But maybe not! Guess we'll find out in less than 24 hours.
>>1150259There’s two banners from what I understand. One is a special 10 pull which guarantees you get 9S. The other is the regular Nier Banner which gives you the chance to score all three characters.
A tidbit for anyone interested. If you have haanit as the head of the party for zaanta's traveller story, it will display the second character in party order in the overworld instead. I wonder if it's the same for other traveller stories, like having cyrus as party head in therese's story
>>1150409This also happens with Simeon and Primrose in Master of Fame.
>>1150259They're never going to make the Kaine, Emil and Nier (either version) playable in any gacha collabs are they
>>1150413Papa Nier is too based for any other game
Wonder if wonders!Miracle of Miracles!I just scored a new thief in my party!
objectively speaking, what is the priority of nier collab units in terms of how good they are or what they bring to a typical roster?
>>1150555Jp wiki with tier list - https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/263474A2 is ranked 9.9, among the highest rated group of characters in the game. 2B is good too, but not gamebreaking. 9S is meh, but he's a free unit
>>1150555In the stream he did sort of recently, someone asked Shizukatz (very knowledgeable JP player who used to make good content for global) who the next big must have character everyone should save for now that we finally have Cyrus. He said "get A2". Of course the term "must have" is one people toss around all the time (they were the fan's words, not Shizu's) and should be taken with a grain of salt. You won't brick your account by skipping A2, she's simply one of the most powerful options for those seeking a good limited character to save up for and she is widely considered best among all the collab characters, not just the NieR ones. A2 will bring your roster lots of damage (any fan of turn-based games should know how overpowered dualcasting is) and the other two characters can be easily skipped assuming global doesn't give them huge buffs or something.
>>1150504Merry belated Christmas! I got her recently too. Haven't found a spot for her on my teams yet, but she's quite cute.
>>1150575>>1150567Thanks. I'll prio A2 then, I love both of them and hope I can get both though.Nice to hear 9S is free too.
>>1150583Good luck bro, I'm going in too and would roll 'em even if they sucked. There's a stream about the collab today in 4 hours and 45 minutes from this post, should get lots more news then.
>>1150589Nice I'll check that out as well then.I'd roll if they sucked too, Automata is in my top 3 most favorite games. I've been waiting for this collab a long time and trying to save so I could maximize my chance at both.
>>1150567>>1150575>Can't afford any of the Nier charactersI guess I'll just have to rely on Therion then.
>>1150660Therion's still fantastic with big nukes, and unlike collab characters, he can spook ya any time to get stronger and stronger. Plus if you really want 2B or A2, there's a good chance they'll rerun next year which is more than enough time to save for a spark.
Stream starts on SE's twitch in 1 minute
>>1150589And woo, a new roadmap incoming! Probably.>>1150660By that time, these characters will provide rather collectible interest. Other than A2, tho, her axe damage is incomparable even in the JP. But it may be difficult to squeeze her into a specialized party. By that time there will be too many strong Warriors and Thieves.Oddly enough, besides A2 and 2B, there will be only two strong axe DPS. Haze and Cecily. Cecily isn't the Apothecary at all, she's physical Cyrus who happened to be covering up the axe weakness as well. Haze is just upgraded Lumis. Nothing extraordinary.All other Apothecaries are either magic damage oriented or valued for their support skills.Except for the OC donutsteel Apothecaries that SE could release at any time, I can only think of three characters that could potentially outperform A2 in terms of axe damage:1. Castti Florenz (OT2, general pool, not soon).2. Graham Crossford (OT1, probably Sacred Blaze or Memory Traveler, not soon if ever).3. Ceraphina (Champion of Memories, not soon, Oskha may appear before her).Pretty disappointing.
Another stream will be on Friday
kek, only 164 people in all of global have beaten Yan Long?
>only 164 people have beaten Yan Long>previous champions had clears around the thousandsHoly shit, he really is that much harder, huh? Well, I'm only gonna attempt him after getting A2. She should be able to just blast him, and if not, she should be able to kill the crows easily because she also has axe damage.
Ads increased from 5 to 8 during the collab. People in chat are saying the collab hunts are limited time, so make sure to do them all.
W-what about the spark number...
>>1150745They're dodging hard, it's looking like the worst case scenario bros.
GIVE ME A FREE 10K RUBIES AND THEN I WILL BEAT YAN LONG IN 3 MONTHS
>>1150736>spoiler I don't get why JP skipped Pardis
They finally replied to the spark number question. They just said they don't know.
>selling collab dupesWould be nice if I was a whale
These actually look decent if you want to spend.
Is the game still super stingy with rubies? I enjoyed the game early on but don't see why I'd play a gacha of I can never pull anything as f2p.
they need better deals if they want me to spend moneywhy the fuck would i spend money when theres already a stand alone octpath game
Roadmap on Friday's stream. Pretty disappointing stream all around though.>>1150763I've played tons of gachas and this is one of the stingiest I've played, maybe even the most.
>>1150756I bet these will be really cheap haha.
>>1150766>>1150763I play several gachas and ironically enough this is one of the worst. Not just in terms of extreme stinginess with the rubies, but the banner rates are also awful. The cherry on top of that of all the gacha I've played this is the one with the least emphasis on any sort of competitive/pvp side of the game. I don't understand why the system is so restrictive.As a player it just puts me in this super awkward spot where I have to skip 95% of banners because when one comes I must pull on (like Nier) I have to have the pity prepared. I can only assume its because there are desperate whales that will drop thousands on any new banner for a new toy to give them a dopamine hit. I'm not even opposed to spending in these games, but the prices for what you get is not even worth considering for me.
>>1150754>>1150748>>1150745This is a bit concerning. I hope they actually don't know and aren't just choosing not to say because they don't want the stream to be perceived negatively...
Bothers me to no end that this stream went during my work day. It also bothers me that it was about Nier and nothing else, especially since I’m DYING to see that Roadmap.Really hoping this collab is worth it. A lot of it will hinge on how I do with the 9S pull. Also whether the banner is paid or not.Gotta say though. Having the Awakening stones on sale is a stroke of ingenuity right there. And if I were to get all 3 Nier characters......then somebody better stop me! Cause Imma get those stones!
Spark will be 200 i don't know why you people expect any different.
>>1150801Yeah, it's strange how it's set up on their end to be an unsuccessful, unprofitable gacha (which the numbers show every month). One of the biggest appeals is collecting the characters and you'd think they'd be more generous with that in a game where there's no pvp or multiplayer elements whatsoever. I've resigned myself to the fact that when this game hits EoS, I'll have to pray all the traveler stories are on youtube.>>1150804The stream already had a pretty negative reception if you saw what everyone was saying as they walked out of chat at the end.>>1150813>Bothers me to no end that this stream went during my work day. Don't be bothered bro, you didn't miss anything we didn't already know. The roadmap is confirmed for Friday's stream, though if you have work on Friday then you'll probably miss it again because that one's at the same time as today's was. As for the banners, all they showed us was there will be a free 10 pull with a guaranteed 9S in the tenth slot (they joked someone will get all three banner characters together in the free pull). The step up is confirmed paid only, four rounds, with a guaranteed banner character in the final step (imagine getting 9S with those paid rubies as your guaranteed lmao). They didn't show the regular banner at all. The only two things we heard about it was they don't know what the pity is going to be and 100 frags can get you the exclusive accessory for one of the characters. Which logically implies it's 200 frags for an actual character, so 6k pity fuck my life.I wish I was rich like you, Tressabro.
>>1150824>The stream already had a pretty negative reception if you saw what everyone was saying as they walked out of chat at the end.I didn't catch the stream live I just went back and skimmed through.That's a bit sad though, I hope the collab (and banners) turn out good.
>>1150824>200 frags for an actual character, so 6k pity fuck my lifeI'm still high on the copium it might be like BD collab where it was 200 frags for pity but has a repeatable step up with a free stepEither that or a shared banner so I can hopefully get one of the girls on the way to pity and select the other with fragsIf I can't get both I will cry and then probably just stop playing, maybe reroll. this collab is what I was waiting for months.
>>1150849pity is sharedallegedly
>>1150849>but has a repeatable step up with a free stepNo way in hell that's happening when the paid step up is capped at four rounds. The only reason we got a free step on Edea and Agnes was because of the outcry over Adelle's banner and the other shit they tried pulling with the BD collab. Best of luck bro, tomorrow's gonna be a blood bath. Or Wednesday? I thought it was coming March 21, but the stream said Wednesday.
>>1150882It’s always on Wednesday that they do the new banners.
>>1150899Day 1 player and I'm just realizing this now.>mfw
>>1150882>outcry over Adelle's banner and the other shit they tried pulling with the BD collabqrd?
>>1150882>>1150851Guess I'll just be crossing fingers and hoping for the best then.I had to pity both BD girls. Statistically having to pity both BD girls AND pity both nier girls should be a monumentally low chance. So I'm hoping it'll work out nicely.
>>1150903When the Bravely Default Crossover came out they made Adele paid Step-Up banner:Step 1 - 150Step 2 - 300Step 3 - 300Step 4 - 300Step 5 - 300This was basically more than Japan had paid for Adele. The outcry was so great that they highly improved the banners for Edea and Agnes. Which used FREE rubies instead of paid rubies:Step 1 - FreeStep 2 - 200Step 3 - 300Step 4 - 300Step 5 - 300And now we’re waiting with bated breath to see how they’re going to handle the Nier Banner since they didn’t give us any definitive prices.
>>1150916And now that I’ve actually watched the stream I can officially confirm.Nier Banner is paid rubies only:Step 1 - 100Step 2 - 200Step 3 - 300Step 4 - 300Step 5 - 300, Guaranteed 9S, 2B or A2Sigh...let’s hope the other events in this Nier Crossover make things fun.
>>1150977Wait, the nier banner is paid only? As in without paid you can't even pull for these units???
>>1150988Just the step up
>>1150989Oh thank fuck. I would have actually had a meltdown of never before seen proportions.
>>1150977Did they give out an exact date for the event?
>>1150996This Wednesday (3/22).And I’m guessing next Wednesday we’re getting Bestower of Power Chapter 3.
does sea-gazing greybeard always "stands ready" in 13th turn?
>>1151140Not sure. But by the time you hit turn 15, he’ll get serious. And the. From there...FURY OF THE STRONG!
Cleared the grandport lvl 100 npc. Any tips for the atlasdam npc?
>>1151185Not there yet. Actually I was planning on taking on the Grandport L100 veteran myself. Any tips I should know about?
>>1151202It's completely a dps race. Making a team that doesn't waste turns on healing helps. The key is to maximize the damage with very careful turn and buff/debuff management. Also tressa is the mvp if you have her
>>1151221Uh... don't mind the party name
5200 rubies, the collab should give at least a thousand (950 advertised)...guess I'm all in for a 6000 ruby pity and praying I get 2B or A2 along the way so I can pity the other one.
>>1151221The guy’s weak against arrows and Fire. What does Tressa do for the team?
>>1151228Tanking with her sidestep, especially the oneshot kills. And donating bp if needed, especially for therion. If you time the break properly, she needs to stay on the frontrow only for half the turns while completely removing any chance of other units getting killed. Also buffs the phys attack while taunting, thus freeing an ally slot or a buffer turn
>>1151231Nice. I have her at 100 and completed. I’ll be sure to make good use of her.
>1500 rubiesIt's over.
>>1151261>>1151261Are they paid rubies? If not, I’ve got three words for you...Whale Powers...ACTIVATE!
>>1151261I got 3k rubies saved up and I'm considering skipping because of the banner rates and 6k pity. Nothing would make me saltier then getting 9S multiple times even though I like him in the game.
My plan is simple. Get 9S. Then do a single step up round. If I get 2B and/or A2, get an awakening stone for each of them (and 9S of course).If not, then que sera sera. I’m holding out for the Summer EX’s and Triangle Strategy.
Hello anons, I'm getting into the game because of the Nier collab. I got a good reroll doing some x10s on the 150/100 banners. Got 740 left but my question is what do I do to progress? First things first do I try to rush all 3 stories to completion? Chapter 3 clear is completion right? What after?
>>1151577If you are getting into the game because of the NieR collab, I strongly suggest you wait until tomorrow when the collab starts to reroll. The first 10 roll on the NieR banner is FREE, with a guaranteed 9S on the 10th slot. It's the best reroll opportunity we've seen since the Bravely Default collab (and that was only because of a fuck up).A2, 2B and 9S are all on the same banner, likely with a shared rate up to fuck us. If you have the patience of a god or can macro a whole bunch of emulator instances, there is a chance you could even get A2, 2B and 9S all in the same free ten roll. This game is extremely stingy with rubies, so even if you play the game non-stop during the two weeks of the collab, you'll probably only get a few more ten rolls before the NieR characters go away until they get a rerun. Though if you can reach the arena in Victor's Hollow, there are a shitload of rubies in there if you can beat the preliminary rounds of the tournaments 'cause they all open simultaneously and you don't need to finish one to hop to another.As for progression, you'll want to do Chapter 1 of each of three "Master" storylines, then Chapter 2, then Chapter 3, which'll unlock the final chapter. My memory is very shaky on what unlocks when because I'm a day 1 player, but the main thing to unlock is hunts because they're an easy daily that gives you very, very important things for getting stronger. Some anon should be along soon who'll be able to tell you how far you need to go to unlock hunts. Progression mostly boils down to pushing story and then grinding gear mats around whatever the latest town is you've unlocked.
>>1151609>If you are getting into the game because of the NieR collab, I strongly suggest you wait until tomorrow when the collab starts to reroll.It's a reason but you already get 9S for free so hey, that'll satisfy me as I play. Just prompted me to start the game because usually freebies around collabs. I'll try to reach Victor's Hollow. As for storylines I'm on ch1 or 2 for each, what's hunts? Is it part of daily feats? Or there's an actual location to do the hunts? And if it's technically 'only' 3chx3 + final chapter, how do you progress to higher levels? Postgame kind of content? Or are there big level jumps between chapters?
>>1151621>It's a reason but you already get 9S for free so hey, that'll satisfy me as I play. Just prompted me to start the game because usually freebies around collabs.Ohh, okay. I mistakenly assumed it was your primary reason for picking up the game and that you wanted all three (you will really want to try for A2 regardless, she's god tier). Rerolling for a free ten roll that includes one of the robo-babes alongside the free 9S would be pretty easy if you wanted to wait less than 24 hours but it's totally up to you.As for the chapters, what I just described is just the first half of the first uh...season? Major arc? You see, after Master of Wealth/Power/Fame, there's Master of All, which is a big 8 chapter-long story. And after that is the next major story we're in right now, Bestower of Wealth/Power/Fame. Latest chapter released was Bestower of Wealth Ch3, and after we get the two other chapter 3s, there will be Bestower of All which I believe JP wrapped up not too long ago. There is a lot to do, and it's not until you've finished Master of All that you'll start on the proper gear grind. Victor's Hollow is Chapter 2 of Bestower of Wealth, so it's quite a ways off for you.As for the hunts, once again, I can't remember exactly when they unlock, but they are daily dungeons, one for each of the eight regions, so I imagine you'll get them all unlocked during Master of All where you go beyond the starting three regions and open up a town in the other five. The nice thing is, once you've cleared a hunt once, you can skip them instantly to get all the loot and exp as if you cleared them normally. Only thing you miss not doing them manually out on are the "clear X hunt Y times" cheevos for a few more rubies.You get one hunt permit a day and they give you guidestones (uncap mats) for the 8 characters you send on a hunt, so they're super important. Hit the word count.
>>1151621Cont from >>1151642There are also expert hunts, which are harder but give you a second hunt per day and unlock by beating the level 85 veteran NPC in each of the eight towns that feature hunts iirc. And there's collab hunts, which are a permanent feature from the Bravely Default collab (which is permanent content and gives you Elvis, a welfare 3* that goes up to 5* via quests). NieR is going to have special hunts too, but it's not 100% confirmed whether they're only for the next two weeks or will be made permanent like the BD one.
>>1151621Hunts are a feature in Part 2 of the game (Master of All).You basically go on a map and fight a bunch of elite monsters without any random encounters. Beating a specific monster will end the hunt. You can get experience, fight rare monsters and even win special prizes. But the main draw is that you get character Guidestones which can be used to raise a traveler’s level cap.There are three types of hunts. Normal hunts, Expert hunts and Otherworld hunts. You’ll get 7 tickets for each. Keep this in mind because going on a hunt uses up hunt tickets. But you get a new one every day.
Not sure how many hours away we are from the collab being live, but if it happens while I'm asleep, good luck everyone!
>>1151263No way i'll whale with these fucking prices
I want to **** 2B!!!
>>1151908The free 10 pull? luckfag
>2B in two multisI'll take it, it's more than I was expecting considering I went in with 500 rubies before claiming login rewards.
Fuck this game. I pulled 2 9Ses on the way.
Got a3 2b, a1 9s and a1 a2 in 130 including the free roll. Very satisfied and gonna save the rest of my rubies for memory units.
Off to a good start.This is what I got from the free 10-Guidance: A2 & 9S in one fell swoop.
got nothing, not even a dupe in 1500 rubiesi think ill just go back to being a login bot
3 9s and 2 A2 , but no 2B. 3 more 10 pulls to pity but I have no more rubies. Hope I get 2B before that so I can go for A2's second awakening
>>1151961Also got 2 elizas, a molu and a hasumi on the way
>>1151961>>1151963Well done. Some very lucky pulls.Good luck on getting 2B
>paid step-up squeenix being gay as usual
im gonna give up my alt with agnes and ophillia to reroll for a2
Are awakening even worth it for limited units.
>>1132871>9S>A2>2BWho’s the must have among them? Or rather rate them from better to worse.Also are they identical to JP? Or did they make some changes in thier kits?
>>1152002try to get the extra battle slot
I went all the way to pity only to get a fucking 4* A2, and now I don't have any rubies, fuck this shitSo should I upgrade A2 or get 2B ?
I got A2 5 10 rolls before pity. Worth it to burn the gems for the A2 dupe? Or should I be saving for Rinyuu so something.
>>11520222b>>1152032save for some other traveler. having the extra stats helps but it can be substituted through some other means. It's harder to substitute key travelers.
>>1152032>>1152035but if you think you can get A2 to awakening 2, go for it
Are any of their accessories good? Managed to get a 4.5* a2 and 2b at 90 exchange mats, so I'm cutting my losses and using seals but I could go for one more roll and get an accessory if it's any good.
Can i use play store points to get rubies?
>>1152044I don't think you can get them directly, unless there is a specific offer on the play points redeeming board. You will have to buy the gift card with those points and then use that
How does 9S stack up to the other merchants? I'm not going to be rolling for anyone since I just started the Master of All segment and would rather hoard.
Was planning to reroll but I got Ophilia so it works out I guess. Just need to scrounge up 2.4k rubies.
>>1151922And I just got 2B with my first Step-Up!As well as Nicola (A1).Now I have all the Nier characters. Let’s see how many I can get to Awakening 2.
>>1152050It's hard to compare him to other merchants because he isn't really like ant of them. He's a mixed bag of utility with good breaking capabilities in spear weak fights. He's not going to be contributing any significant amount of damage to a fight and he's not too impressive at anything in particular, but he's got enough going for him that you'll probably find a place where he can fill some niche for particular fights from time to time if you lack other characters with the same utility.
How do I reach the fake protag enemies in nier hunt intermediate and advanced?
Can I get 1400 rubies for pity before the collab is gone?
is there any way to awaken my 2B down the line without pulling a dupe right now?
>>1152037SP and HP regen are always good, but with the acessories being locked to a single character...idk
>>1152127Yes. Grind the hunt feats and traveler stories. Also lvl 100 npcs and arena if there are some left that you can possibly beat
>6K pity for ONE character out of a 3 character banner.Fucking LMAO.
>>1152136Other than a rerun of the collab, which has happened in JP and the fine print of the global banner says it "may" happen.
What are the easier level 100 NPCs?
Massive success. My rolls were:>Free pull - Harly (new), Stead (new), 9S (guaranteed, new)>1st pull - nothing>2nd pull - Tressa (5th dupe, time to max her ult)>3rd pull - 2B!!! (new!)>4th pull - A2!!! (new!)Now here's the big question: do I keep going? I have 4200 rubies left over, I've been saving since Cyrus for this. A2 is a god tier damage dealer, still top of the line in JP, so do I dare try for A1 on her to boost her relevant stats? I skipped a lot of banners for this so I'm missing some key off banner characters like Alfyn and Ophelia, though I'm not gonna chase offbanners of course; it's just a nice possiblity alongside chasing an awakening for A2. I've seen people saying going for awakening 2 for an extra slot is good if you can, but outside of a scant few characters, I find 3 skill slots is totally fine. Does A2 really want to have 4 particular skills equipped? I imagine if I blow my load here, I can still save up some rolls for summer limiteds; that and Triangle Strategy are the next things I wanna save for.The final factor I'm weighing is my own superstition. On the rare times I get super lucky like this and get my banner target early, if I go back in I get screwed over by the gacha.
>>1152178Lame. Is it even worth getting her with my pity then if she'll most likely be without that stat boost awakening level forever?idk if I'm overvaluing how good those stats are
>>1152187It's +30% stats except for hp, which is definitely noticeable, but I don't think it's mandatory for any content in this game. You'll finish some fights a turn or two faster, but if you can stay alive that along anyway, it's not a big deal. Though bear in mind, I'm >>1152185 and I'm kind of trying to also talk myself out of chasing an awakening for A2 right now.
>>1152053The day continues to bless me.A2 is now A1!She will be a guaranteed A2 come April.
>>1152227Step 2 by the way.
>>1152185Fuck it, I saved up specifically to blow my load today, and I blew it. What a rollercoaster.>5th pull - 9S (first dupe)>6th pull - nothing>7th pull - nothing>8th pull - nothing>9th pull - nothing>10th pull - nothing>11th pull - nothing>12th pull - nothing>13th pull - nothing>14th pull - Alfyn 4.5* (NEW!)>15th pull - nothing>16th pull - A2 (first dupe)>17th pull - 2B (first dupe), Stead 4.5* (first dupe)>18th pull - 9S (second dupe)>19th pull (hit pity) - nothingPitied A2 for the A2 (kek). That long stretch of nothing but dead rolls had me in despair, but this ended up like that meme pic about the two guys mining. I have a gold seal to class up Alfyn, I'm so glad to finally get him. I suck at managing BP, can someone give me tips on how to make the most out of his busted panacea skill?Stead is my best and only proper source of dark, so it's nice to get his stats up for more damage. 2B is A1 so she can hit as hard as she can and 9S is A2 so I can equip all the weird varied things in his kit. And my A2 is A2. I have no rubies left, and very few sources of them, but I'm happy. Now to figure out how the hell to beat the collab content.>>1152227Nice!
I started and rerolled around launch and played through to the further story at that time, but since then I've basically been living under a rock while waiting for nier (literally just logging in and doing my daily stuff).Got pretty dicked on the Nier units but at least pity let me get a copy. I got a fair bit of 5*s at least. Might try and do some more pulls before it collab is done depending on how many rubies I'm at (I got a lot of catch up content to farm)Anyways now that I'm ready to start actively playing again, can anyone tell me which of these assorted 5*s I got are worth working on (or at least to prioritize, I'm sure I'll get them all up eventually)? >Hasumi>Lionel>Therion>Stead>Ophilia (4.5) >Z'aanta (4.5)>Theo (4.5)And lastly, which of my 4.5's below are worth taking to 5*? They handed out those gold seals not too long ago but I didn't want to use them until after Nier. Whether they're good enough at 4.5 or they share a seal or w/e, they seem scarce enough I don't wanna waste them until I could def get good use at 5*>Ophilia>Z'aanta>Theo>ViolaThanks and if it'd help to know what I currently have I can post that as well.
>>1152241>and if it'd help to know what I currently have I can post that as well.Yeah, it'd be good to know what you have. Did you get a copy of each collab unit, Nierbro?For your 5 stars, Hasumi is a great support to buff your defenses and heal. Lionel is pretty meh even with global buffs. Therion is top tier, your dagger damage will skyrocket with him and A2. Stead is a rare source of dark damage, pretty valuable. Ophilia is the god tier cleric in global, she mogs the rest until we get Rinyuu, who is limited and Ophilia's still great. Z'aanta is top tier bow damage, a great person to put in your hunts because you want to push his ridiculous damage even higher asap. Theo is still a solid regen caster for keeping your squad alive but oh wait you have Ophilia GG (I really wish I had her).So out of those, I would prioritize Ophilia, Z'aanta and Therion in that order (Therion will swap places with Z'aanta if you didn't get A2). Then Stead for hitting dark bosses and then maybe Hasumi, though once again you have Ophilia.For who to class up, definitely Ophilia and Z'aanta. Ophilia wants as much survivablity as possible and Z'aanta's claim to fame is the ridiculous 5 hit bow skill he only gets at 5*.Viola's still the queen of debuffs despite being a launch character, and 5* gives her a nifty 2-hit aoe shield crack to help support the team breaking when she doesn't need to reapply debuffs. Theo's 5* gives him his famous 2 hit axe aoe, which is nice in at least one arena fight I can think of, but it's bottom priority out of those four I'd say.Actually, come to think of it, I don't think what I just said would really change even if I new the rest of your roster. Ophilia and Z'aanta are that good.
What happens if the game crashes in a post-battle cutscene? I was paranoid about that the entire time because I've already had the game crash a few times.Also, how big of a jump in difficulty are the Bestower chapters? I'm trying to see how far I can go without spending rubies but I don't think this 3.5* Cleric is gonna cut it.
>>1152251>What happens if the game crashes in a post-battle cutscene?idk, never had it crash on me. I remember when I closed the app during a phase 2 boss battle, it brought me back to the cutscene just before it, but that's all I know.>Also, how big of a jump in difficulty are the Bestower chapters?The boss fights of the Ch1s of Bestowers aren't as hard as Pardis, so since you beat Master of All, you should be able to handle them. Now you're gonna unlock enhancing gear and you're gonna wanna get some of that upgraded gear (or BT weapons) for the subsequent chapters. I imagine BoW Ch3's boss is gonna be hard without top tier gear.
>>1152243Thanks bro. No nier units other than 9S (3 copies go figure) but I'm at the pity so I have a choice to make. What I'll probably do is see how many rubies I can grind until there's a day or two left on the collab and then do desperation pulls and hope to get one and pity the other. Otherwise I'll just have to choose between A2 or 2B and die a little inside.My other 5*s are Sofia, Lynette, Tressa, Heathcote, Edea, and Agnes and I've just been filling the gaps with random lower rarity guys.
>>1152261Damn, good luck pulling A2 or 2B! There should be enough rubies both in the collab and in your content to get a decent number of ten pulls. Have you touched arena yet? There is a shitload of easy rubies in there from the preliminary rounds (190 for each of the seven cups).Sofia is still a wonderful ice mage, Lynette is still the best buffer, Tressa is a pretty handy tank with good spear damage, Heathcote is meh, Edea's a solid warrior and Agnes would be a terrific healer if, once again, you didn't have the goddess that is Ophilia.
>>1152263Thanks for the rundownI haven't done any arena (or even unlocked it if I need to). Also have at least 90% of the traveler stories untouched, and whatever main campaign content is up next. I basically haven't done anything noteworthy since beating Pardis.Really glad to hear that Ophilia is so highly regarded though. She's my favorite character from the OG octopath.
>>1152183Flamesgrace and Victor's Hollow are the easiest with Donescu being a step up in difficulty largely because dark and staff aren't exactly loaded with great damage options, but he's generally in the same ballpark. The ones after those are a significant step up in difficulty in comparison.
What’s getting me right now is the fact that the only substantial update that version 1.80 provides is the Nier content.And all of it is temporary. If they had new permanent hunts or an extra side story like I’cirlo that would be one thing. But everything that 1.80 provides will vanish come April 5th.Guess we’ll be getting Bestower of Power 3 come April, along with the 1.90 update.
AAAAAAAAAAAAH GIVE ME A2 I DONT WANNA PULL ANYMORE
>>1152269You're welcome and good luck! That many traveler stories should get you a nice chunk of rubies (multiply the number of travelers you have by 20, I think I still have 1500 rubies left to collect in mine) but it will take a lot of hours to go through each one.>Really glad to hear that Ophilia is so highly regarded though. She's my favorite character from the OG octopath.Lucky, mine are Olberic and H'aanit and they're both kinda meh.>>1152314Sending luck to you too bro, drink deep.
As a heads up for when we get our two Nier hunt permits tomorrow, the optional boss in the epic level hunt is _9S_ and the only weaknesses are sword, dagger and axe. I've heard the difficulty is somewhere between the lv85 NPCs and the lv100 NPCs. I hope somebody uploads a video of the fight by then, it sounds pretty tough.
Any Datamines? Just wondering if there’s anything to look forward to next week.
>>1152296What IS the Nier content? Just the banner? Are there exclusive quests / dungeons?
>>1152383Memories and exclusive limited time hunts.9S, 2B and A2 each of three memoirs that unlock when you pull them (read one to unlock the next).There are also exclusive quests (tasks) that give you more goodies, mostly rubies, that come down to reading the two event story memoirs (one starts unlocked and is the key to unlocking the hunts and the final one is from beating the advanced Nier hunt), clearing the Nier hunts, and beating a specific, various obvious optional enemy that appears in the hunts.As for the hunts, they only last for the two weeks of the collab and you get 2 unique permits for them each day (you still get 1 Bravely hunt permit daily so you don't need to choose between collabs). There are four hunts: beginner, intermediate, advanced (which finishes the event story) and epic. The hunts are pretty cool little dungeons as they're a callback to how you do hacking in Automata, plus there's no mini map so I had to think more than I usually do when navigating a dungeon.
>https://meowdb.com/db/octopath-traveler-cotc/a2-review/>guide advises not unlocking any speed nodes on A2Whoops. Though minmaxing that much isn't something I want to worry about anyway, not to mention in berserk mode A2 will be outspeeding all other characters anyway due to berserk mode's speed buff.
>desperate nier untis>main got nothing>rerolled all day, finally have all 3 in under 60 pulls>take a good look at the units>only 2bs sprite looks good:/
>>1152355no just keep pulling on the nier banner!
>>1135444I know I'm 3 weeks late (I only realized there was new content in the Bonfires today) but I think the best strategy is to nuke during break and treat the weakness-locking phase as mopping up. A2 is a complete non-factor btw. Ghisarma's attacks are all physical which is very exploitable.The basic plan is like this:> Debuff boss attack while setting up Tressa/tank. We're preparing to tank the first aura attack> Let your row buddies tank/die against the aura attack and immediately chase that break phase afterwards.> Nuke during Break(Optional) If you can't push him into red with Break 1, hold back and try to break a second time.> Weakness locks aren't too big. If he's in red, hit him with your best shot. If your unit can tank it, hit him with weakness despite the counter. Tank should be drawing regular attacks anyways.> ???> Profit (Legendary Ashes II)His attacks can crit sometimes which sucks. Stack phys defense.
>>1152444>I know I'm 3 weeks late (I only realized there was new content in the Bonfires today) but I think the best strategy is to nuke during break and treat the weakness-locking phase as mopping up.I'm the guy you're replying to and yup, that's exactly what I concluded. I can beat him on the first try every day now and seeing A2 in your pic makes me realize it's gonna get even easier. I might even be able to nuke him down completely during the first break once she's properly leveled.Can't upload a pic right now but my current team for that fight is Sophia/Therese, Hasumi/Z'aanta, Odette/Kouren and Cyrus/Viola.
>>1152227Step 3 - A wild Cyrus (A1) appeared. Not who I was looking for but welcome nonetheless. He’ll definitely be useful against Largo.
Stop posting your good rolls faggots.
How much is the difference between an A0 and A1 character as far as doing content and stuff?Just going through story my unawakened characters 'feel bad' particularly because they are a tad slower/squishier. But I'm curious how this changes in later game stuff with better gear to hopefully offset it?Like how much would I be gimped with just an unawakened A2?
>>1152488dude, just go for it, A2 is fucking top tierits like buying a lambo and getting your panties twisted because now you gotta buy premium gas
>>1152409>73.4% chance of getting at least 1 A2 in 200 rolls.>Got 4.5* Harley (A3), 4.5* Theo (A2), 4.5* Nicola, 4.5* Therese & 5* 2BHarley and Theo were already 5* and I'm lucky I had the seals to awaken both Nicola and Therese, but this still feels off. I got 1 true 5* in 200 pulls. I have all 3 Andriods I guess, but I still wish I want A2 awakenings. 2,000 rubies left over to tempt me dearly...
Guys look who I got on my first 10 pull
>>1152498Also this seems kind of sillyhow do you wear two goggles at once
>>1152489I don't know what to interpret this asAre you saying A2 without any awakening is still top tier?Or that if I'm not willing to buy premium gas (awaken 1 her) I might as well not buy the lambo?The thing here is deciding how to pity>get a dupe of A2 so she's awakening 1 (and I don't have 2B at all)>get 2B so I have both, but both unawakened
>>1152498Nice! I got plenty of travelers, but Molrusso isn’t one of them. Good job!
>be me>saved up 5,100 rubies>go to the free Nier banner>get spooked on 30 pulls in>get 5* A2, noice>keep pulling until I’m at 1,000 rubies>get 4.5* 2B>fuck it, might as well go for pity>buy A2’s Awakening pack>switch over to paid step-up banner>complete Step 5>Woohoo! 5* 2B, with an Awakening Stone!!!>notice I’m only 30 shards from pity>whale_mode.exe>repeat step-up until I reach 200 shards>redeem shards for 2B’s summoning seal>get 2B + her Awakening Stone>A2 A2, and 2B too>nanto subarashiiAnd that is how I got the Nier: Automata trio. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll be slaughtering Chubby Caits at the very least to get them up to snuff.
>>1152488>because they are a tad slower/squishier.A1 fixes that by making them a tad faster/bulkier but>better gear to hopefully offset it?Gear, especially weapons, is the most important thing. You can clear all of the story with unawakened characters. This is one of the stingiest gachas out there, with horrible rates, bad banners and impressively bad monetization. So it is better to go for more characters than to chase dupes maxing out a single one.Unawakened A2 is still top tier, best in class. A1 will make her hit a bit harder but she's already hitting harder than everyone else in the game. And more speed on her not only can be detrimental, but it's meaningless as the +15% speed buff from going berserk eclipses the stat gains she gets from A1. If you go A2 on her, you get the option of bringing her double wide burst along for 4 hit aoe shield cracks, which is kinda neat, but is not her main draw at all.>>1152496Ouch, sorry to hear. If you want to see a wall of salt and people quitting and getting fucked over even worse than you, the cotc subreddit is burning down today.>2,000 rubies left over to tempt me dearly...If you do not have another 6k, STOP! That 2k can easily vanish without a single 5 star to show for it. Be happy you have the strongest damage dealer in the game and patiently grow that 2k back into another 6k.>>1152534Gratz
These level 100 Npcs are fucking bullshit
>>1152534Well done!My hope is to get all three at A2. But I feel good knowing that at least one of them is guaranteed a second awakening (It’s A2 by the way).Perhaps next year, I can get them all to A4.
https://game8.jp/octopathtraveler-sp/441386Shortest routes and paths to protag enemies in nier hunts>>1152546Patience, right travelers and allies
Eh i think i'll drop this game, paid only currency, very low rates, 6k pity for only one selectable chatacter? In a banner of 3? and bundle prices are ridiculous. I'll just stick to OT2.
If people are quitting now wait until they start to shit out EX and Memory units one after another. People will drop like flies.
>>1152562Yeah, the future banners are fucked considering it's almost all limited from here on out.Funny, collabs are meant to be huge draws for gachas to bring in new blood, but this one is seeing a fair share of people up and leave.>>1152560Fair enough, later bro. SE has once again fallen into the classic mistake of treating the global version of their game like the JP version. While nips will happily take it up the ass, Westerners balk at this sorta shit.
>>1152051Thanks to the arena I got the rubies I needed but I had to pity A2 in the end. Got a dupe Z'aanta and 2B along the way so it wasn't too bad. >>1152562I'm not looking forward to back to back EX and Memory banners at our current pace without any increased ruby income. No the Tapjoy shit doesn't count.
Sounds like from the thread that A2 is pretty damn goodBut how are 2B and 9S?
>>11525822b is good too,dont waste resources on 9s
>>1152575EX characters get added to the general pool so I will probably skip them like I skip the normal banners. But the memory and champion banners are going to be painful
>>1152611Correction. Only the EX characters based off the original eight are general pool.Seasonal EX characters are limited, and Alaune EX is a Memory Traveler.
>>1152613I see. I only read primrose ex's game8 article so I thought it's the same for all ex travelers
Finally cleared the atlasdam lvl100 npc with this team. This is the first lvl100 npc I was able to clear without going into the overkill mode. Looking back, personally, I found the earlier lvl100 npcs harder to beat than the later ones. The powercreep is real
>>1152636Icirlo's npc looks impossible, any tips?
Hypothetical scenario, but if you defeat yan long while the crows are still alive would they revive him like the bd adventurer's companion?
>>1152741No. And they won't commit suicide like Yunnie adds either. They will pretend that nothing happened.
>>1152471Step 4...nothing.Step 5...An upgrade for 2B.Now I must remain vigilant and resist the temptation of doing another round.That, and get the Awakening Stones later on. Hopefully next year I can get these three fully upgraded.
>>1152546That’s why you get 200 rubies for beating them.
>>1152752Thanks. I wonder how feasible it is to kill yan long quickly without olberic and wrath. I have fiore, edea, kouren, A2 and 2B all above 90 or fully leveled but o;beric's guard and wrath's 5 hit+ult seems to be crucial
Would hp regen acessories be any good for A2 or are an apothecary's regen already enough for her since the game does regen and then berserk dmg?
>>1152817The only serious battle I used A2 in is the atlasdam lvl100 npc one and I felt even burst healing is a complete waste on her while she is in the berserk mode
Damn, I guess we only get 2 NieR hunt permits on the first day. Gives us one more day to prep for the epic hunt.
Finally bothered to clear the Grandport level 100. Cut it a little close, but I was kind of lazy with my prep so not too bad all things considered.
Is the game BSOD'ing (VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE) for anyone else on Bluestacks? It does this the moment I leave Emberglow and it takes longer to crash the lower I set the graphics.
>>1152823Got it, seems like 2B's sp regen thing will be more useful then. Man, first time I'm getting a 100 fragments acessory and it's hard to choose.
>No rate up for any of the 3 characters>6K pity just to be able to pick one>Paid only step upOkay what the fuck is this banner, in most gachas, even from square enix, they are really generous with collabs since they are limited and bring new people but this is the opposite.
>>1152916It's pure cancer. They are once again testing to see how far they can push global players. Every dollar spent on this collab will make them think they can get away with even worse. They're also trying to squeeze f2p hoarders as much as they can before the onslaught of limited banners begins.Of course, whether people spend or not, either way we, the players, lose. If this collab makes a profit, expect shit like this to be the norm like in JP. If it doesn't, the doughheaded suits will just shrug and eventually conclude that global isn't profitable because people are interested enough in the game to spend money (when it's really their shitty monetization and gacha the players aren't interested in) and shut it down like so many other failed SE gacha.The worst part is, I've seen people being vocal about their complaints, especially with this NieR collab, and there's a good chance the community managers have passed along at least a few of the complaint topics to the higher ups, as is their job, but the japs at the top probably just laugh in their faces or get annoyed and ignore the complaints either way.Reminder that the tapjoy scam was their answer to players wanting more rubies to make up for the accelerated banner schedule and the NieR collab came with a "+30% more 'free' rubies" promotion for doing offerwall stuff.
My current main goal is to beat Gertrude for the first time. I got A2 and Alfyn yesterday, which are fantastic for this fight, so I gotta rework the team I was gonna use. I finally have 8x origin armor and helms, but now I have to wait until I level these two some more.A2, Therion and Alfyn are definitely going in. Glossom too probably, so I can cap atk/def up for the party. I'm pretty worried about how squishy he'll be at level 80 though, as I haven't gotten around to farming Glossom because my dark sucked until yesterday when I got Stead, who needs more levels as well.I don't have Ophilia, so I don't know who to bring to keep my team alive. Agnes, maybe? I also have Hasumi who can heal and buff both defenses.For daggers, I'm only missing Adelle and Falco, and for hunters I'm only missing Kersjes. I don't have Molu, but I do have A1 Cyrus who hits like a truck. Hell, 9S might even help her with shield cracking with fire and being able to help cap pdef and both physical debuffs on Gertrude, even slowing her down with a speed debuff.So out of Therion, A2, Alfyn, Glossom, Viola, Ri'tu, Scarecrow, H'aanit, Z'aanta, Jillmeila, Agnes, Cyrus, Hasumi, Lynette and 9S, who should I bring? I have other 5 stars, but those are the only ones that seem relevant to this fight.
>>1152916>No rate up for any of the 3 charactersThey do have the rate up, though it's pitifully small
>>1152927>They are once again testing to see how far they can push global playersThe thing is I don't even get how their logic works here. The people who are already willing to spend (especially on a collab with a popular IP/characters) are going to spend regardless. The people who are adamantly f2p/light spenders literally do not respond to ridiculous banner greed by caving into the greed. They just burn out or quit outight when the game's rates don't let them play in a way they find suitable.So I don't really see what they're going for. I don't think the game has such a big playerbase that nickel and diming it is a good strategy.
>>1152980SE is infamous for being completely out of touch when it comes to their gacha, it's why they have such a bad rep among mobage players these days. It's also probably why they churn out multiple new games every year while cutting others left and right. I guess it's a consequence of having way too many IPs under their umbrella, but if they could just focus on one long-running game that factors in what the players want and what's been proven to work alongside some actual basic common sense, everyone would be better off.I've tried almost all of their gachas that have had releases in English and it's nuts how much dumb shit I've seen from this company.
>finally get a gold unit after 70 pulls>4 star saedt-thanks....
Has anyone beaten Yan Long yet?I can get him to the red, but if I don’t kill his ravens quickly, my team is fucked.Any suggestions as to what to do?
>>1153170If only I could kill his crows quickly...Or alternatively, if I could just get him to half his HP before the end of his 1st break...I could nail the son of a bitch...
>>1152929My healers/buffers/debuffers for Gertrude were Glossom and Viola, and my healers were Lianna (didn't have Ophilia) and Theo. I highly recommend Glossom/Viola just for survivability and to debuff Gertrude's defense. Alfyn should do a better job than Theo, but if you don't have anyone who can revive you might have a rougher time.
>>1153170https://youtu.be/UCiDAAtp1n4If you have A2, try this. It worked for me even after replacing olberic with edea and ophilia with agnes
>>1153192Hi boy...I got my work cut out for me. The YorHa Units are still at level 60 right now. But they’re capped at 88/89. I’ll give this one a shot...
How quickly do I have to go to get a team ready for the level 60 Nier hunt, if I have just cleared Master of All Chapter 2 with a level 44-46 range team?
>>1153192Not the guy originally asking, but thanks for this! I also am missing Olberic and Ophilia but have Edea and Agnes. Like the other guy said, I gotta get the androids leveled up first.>>1153190>if you don't have anyone who can revive you might have a rougher timThanks, looks like I'm bringing Agnes with Raise for once. I guess between her and Alfyn that should cover healing. I'm not sure if I need Viola as A2 plus Therion will cap Gertrude's defense debuff...though I'll probably need her to help Therion cap Gertrude's physical attack debuff. Okay, Viola gets a spot. Don't have Lianna sadly as I've had to skip the past two Sacred Blazes (sooo glad I rolled for Odette on her banner though).So I guess my team is looking like Glossom, Viola, A2, Therion, Alfyn, Agnes and two more damage dealers. Maybe my A1 Cyrus and unawakened Z'aanta will hit the hardest, though I also have Scarecrow all the way at A3 as my only A3 character. Yeah, probably gonna bring Scarecrow over Z'aanta just because A3 means he has a lot more hp.But tomorrow's big challenge will be beating the optional boss in the NieR epic hunt that I just unlocked. I'll save Gertrude for the weekend.>>1153216Collab started yesterday and lasts two weeks, so you have some time. Try to get strong enough within the next five days though, as you can only hold 7 Nier hunt permits total and you get one each day.
>>1153219Gotcha. I already burned my first two on the beginner and intermediate hunts, so I'll try to stock up for the remaining days.
>>1153220I should probably mention there is a level 90 hunt, but that's definitely gonna be out of reach for you. Not to worry though, as the final special tasks for the collab are simply to beat the level 60 hunt and the level 60 npc optional battle inside it. The hunts don't seem to give out anything particularly good either; they're mostly just a fun and flavourful way to get more guidestones for a limited time.
>>1153220>>1153221Oh wait, shit my bad. For some dumb reason, the special tasks didn't update until I closed the menu and reopened it. There's 150 rubies from beating the epic hunt and the optional superboss within it. At least it's not anything exclusive, and you can cope by imaging those 150 rubies would just get you five 3 stars (which actually is pretty realistic sadly).
>>1153221>>1153222A level 90 hunt? Ah, boy, I don't think I even have enough travelers that can hit the level 80 cap, even if I get around to unlocking Elvis' promotions. All I can hope is that not clearing this hunt won't doom my Orsterrra to a bad ending where the giant god babies invade and devour everything until I sacrifice my save data to retcon the event out of existence.
Sooooo...Do i just give up with 2500 spent gems and no 5* nier at all? Can i get the other.....THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED GEMS....that I'd need for pity?
>>1153231don't roll when you can't guarantee pity anon. I learned my lesson after wasting nearly 3k rubies on odette banner without a single 5 star to show for it.As for getting 3500 rubies, it is possible if you have all the arenas+lvl100 npcs+traveler stories left to do
>>1153219Don't forget Viola's anti-attack unless there's someone else in your party who can debuff attack, that was a big factor in survivability too.
>>1153228Don't worry, without spoiling much the event story concludes after you clear the level 60 hunt and the level 90 one doesn't seem to have a story.>>1153259Yep, gonna be leaning hard on that atk debuff.
>>1153231yeah you can find them in your wallet
>>1153272do you miss anything significant by not doing the 90 one?
Just a heads up for anyone going into the epic hunt: 9S is a pure damage race. If you can break him in two turns and kill him in two breaks you'll be just fine, but even with capped attack debuffs and Ophilia's defense buff he absolutely destroys health bars so taking it slow isn't really an option. He hits harder than level 100s, but he's significantly frailer so just hit him hard and fast.
Got 2b a2, but I dont have Viola in this accountIs she that good?
>>1153438the best debuffer currently in the global. Can be substituted to an extent with therion or kurtz though
NEW ROADMAP BOYSLooks like we’ll be getting a chance to use our Conquerors come July.And it seems they’re pretty mum about Bestower of All so far.
Is there going to be any use later for the extra guidestones after unit reached the level cap?
>>1153453You use their Guidestones to level up their ultimates. Once you’ve gotten their Ultimate to 10 and maxed out their levels, you no longer have use for those Guidestones.
>>1153438Viola is amazing at what she does, but she is in the normal pool while A2 and 2B are limited. Additionally, we have been getting more and more characters with solid debuffing utility lately so she's not as difficult to replace as she used to be (though no one else can really do what she does with just one team slot). I'd stick with what you've got and hope you get Viola at some point along the way. There will no doubt be some kind of event banner down the line that will give you the chance to get her anyway.
>>1153443Can’t help but notice that Hammy isn’t showing up any time soon.I’m guessing that’s due to the fact that Hammy and her team have Boost Points.
next week is *a fourth Nier unit*God help us
>>1153453>>1153485you can always swap them on the exchange for other mats.
>>1153531Yeah, that's why I am asking if I should be saving them for something else. My cyrus is in an awkward spot where he is already at the level cap and in the process to get guidestones he hits the next hidden level cap so I have to use common guidestones to give him a jumpstart.Make sure that your characters are always a level or 2 behind the cap anons if you want to minmax your exp gain.
Btw, is it the same for the 4 star guidestones or do they get used in awakening 4?
>>1153542Nope. For 4-Stars, you can use Guidestones to awaken characters up to 3 times. In order to reach Awakening 4, you will need that specific character’s Awakening Stone. And there are three ways to get it depending on the character:>Memory Shards>Historic Fragments >Game Board Tokens
>>1153556Oh and to be more specific:Memory Shards>Pia, Rita, Bertrand, Fabio, Barrad, Shelby, Madelaine, Iris, Tahir, PaulaHistoric Fragments >Devin, Cless, Merrit, Cedric, Heinz, Miles, Mabel, Rodion, Camilla, Menno, Cerna, Cornelia, Efrain, Levan, Game Board Tokens (Wealth)>Trish, Wingate, Kenneth, Brigitte, Narr, JornGame Board Tokens (Power)>Sigrid, Kurtz, Lucetta, Laura, Helga, RamonaGame Board Tokens (Fame)>Noel, Meena, Ashlan, Peredir, Aslyte, Durand
>>1153605P.S.: In case you were wondering. 3-Stars get two things: Jack and Shit.You can only get them up to Awakening 3 for 200 Bronze Guidestones a pop.
>>1153605Are any of these accessories even worth it?
>>1153620Yep. Think of them as some discounted accessories A4 for 5*. Jorn, for example, has this: "When breaking an enemy, lower their Sword Res. by 10%." Put it on your breaker and it will work almost as well as Elrica's A4 accessory that gives you -15% Sword Res. when braking and more stats, but is absurdly harder to get.
>>1153406Thanks. I heard he hit hard, but I didn't expect it to be THAT hard. I'm thinking of using:Fiore/Lumis (keeping Fiore topped off and axe damage if she dies)Therion/Edea (backup in case Therion dies)Kouren/Glossom (I don't know if I can afford to swap to glossom to buff Fiore and Therion)Viola/Alfyn (debuff then swap out to panacea for the three big nukes of the other frontlines)I'm really nervous about this 'cause don't I lose the hunt permit if I die in the hunt? I don't have Ophilia so I'm scared about a lack of heals and def buffs. Should I swap the order of these characters around? Maybe I should put Viola behind Fiore like you had and Glossom in a row with Alfyn like you did with Lynette, that way all three big hitters (Fiore/Therion/Kouren) can be buffed by Glossom with the bravely fan.Ah, but that wouldn't work because I need to hit his weakness 10 times every turn to break in two turns, which means Kouren always needs to be out front for his 4-hit and I need Fiore and Therion to 3-hit each turn while Viola sets up debuffs. Fuck, that also means there's no time to cap physical debuffs with Therion! Oh wait, maybe if I debuff with Therion on turn 1, then max boost his triple edge on turn 2 to hit six times and make up for not attacking with him turn 1? If this was like a memoir or arena fight where I can just give up/die and try again for free I wouldn't be so worked up.
>>1153443>notices links to archived stream where they showed this offWhat the hell? They said last stream the Friday stream would be at the same time as the one on Monday, which is still over 4 hours from now. Man, catching these streams is like trying to catch a fish with your hands. It's so weird, when all the other SE mobage have clear notices sent out inside the game saying when they're happening.Anyway, did they mention anything specific about this roadmap? I guess I'm saving all my rubies from now until anniversary, which is usually the smart thing in most gacha anyway. I really hope I can get Herminia, she's my favourite villain in CotC so far plus I love hunters. I don't think I'll be chasing dupes like I did with A2 any more; from now on, if I get my target early, I'm ducking out of the banner.>>1153528Say sike right now Tressa. RIGHT. NOW.>>1153624>Jorn, for example, has this: "When breaking an enemy, lower their Sword Res. by 10%." Put it on your breaker and it will work almost as well as Elrica's A4 accessoryThat would be nice IF THEY'D FUCKING RELEASE JORN AND THE OTHER FOUR STARS! This is why I get pissed about missing streams, because someone needs to yell at them every single stream about this issue until it's solved. Last time I did and multiple people in chat gave me an @ and said "THIS", so I'm glad people outside of this thread are aware of it too.
>>1153657You can always force close the app and restart to retry the fight, that's what I did after my first attempt ended in complete disaster because he just chewed through my HP like nothing even with all the buffs, debuffs and lucky dodges from both Kouren and 2B. In my actual clear I don't think I ever found the time to use Viola's debuffs, I just blitzed her down with Crumbling Cut as the only debuff. Between Therion, Fiore and Kouren you should have enough damage to comfortably nuke him down in two breaks without having to cap defense down.He doesn't do a whole lot on his first turn and at least on my clear, his first turn after recovering from break was also not too bad so just focus on maximizing your breaking and damage output.
>>1153699Okay, thanks. Force closing to retry the fight is a load off my mind. Got a few more things to do today before I take my shot at him but I'm feeling confident-ish. One last question: what sort of attacks did he throw out? If he hits that hard, any mitigation might mean the difference between dying and surviving with a sliver, so I'm wondering if I should gear for physical defense or elemental.
>>1153737Mostly some nasty random targets spear attacks though. The only elemental attack I saw him do was a single target lightning attack that hit for about 2k.
>>1153742Okay. Yeah, I'm looking at vids now and that spear is brutal, so origin armor and helms on everyone it is.Ooh, something I've never thought about before: NPC allies can be brought to this fight according to what I'm reading online. Because I never use them, I'm not knowledgable on which ones are good, but are there any particularly good debuff NPCs or sword/axe/dagger breakers/nukers that you can think of off the top of your head?
>>1153746I never even considered those were an option for hunts, but off the top of my head there's a guard in Clearbook with a 3x axe attack which should be good for breaking. Additionally, if you're looking for some additional debuffing there's a npc in the southeast corner of Atlasdam with a 20% def/e.def debuff if I remember correctly. Those should suffice I think.
>>1153753Thanks! That debuff NPC means I can drop Viola entirely and go full offense with a front row of Fiore/Therion/Kouren/Edea for maximum rushdown.
Who's the best for the Theif role between Therion, Viola, and 9S? I'm still only in Master of All, should I just use whoever I think the coolest is?Also is Neir a fun game? I had the game of the YoRHa version installed on my PS5 for awhile now but I haven't touched it yet. I feel like I heard a ton about it when it came out all those years ago but nothing since.
is there a quick reroll guide? I just downloaded and want a2 and 2b, also are the stories the same as the game?
Uninstalled. Fuck this banner and fuck square enix.
>>1153406Jesus. No hope of beating him with sacred gear then, right? It's maxed and I have one of each weapon but I haven't farmed any gear above it.
I know that A2 is supposed to be top tierbut I'm looking at 9S abilities and he seems pretty good as well
>>1153863>9SI assume you mean A2? She's absolutely top tier for her versatility and ability to put out huge amounts of damage. Viola is the queen of debuffs and doesn't really compete for a spot with either of them and Therion has very respectable damage himself, but doesn't quite keep up with A2. That said, because Viola is useful in just about any comp, A2 covers three weapon types in one and Therion comes with his own utility along with strong dagger damage you could just run all three for general content (and will nearly always want to run all three for dagger weak content) and be just fine. They're all great characters who can contribute something in nearly any fight.
>>1152980Why do you most of their recent releases have been nothing but garbage, their higher ups are just fucking retarded, no wonder they want to shill NTFs.
>>1153863>>1153885As for Nier Automata, it's a fine if a little simplistic action game, but there are a lot of neat details in the world and with its characters and it does have a nice atmosphere. The story is a little strange and arguably veers into pretentious at times, but if you're a fan of unconventional or strange storytelling I think it's worth experiencing, though I do think the original Nier excels better in the things Automata does well.
>>1153867Reroll on the free Nier ten pull you can do once that has a guaranteed 9S. Try to get A2 or 2B (or both) in the same free ten roll. Getting the one you don't get will be very difficult. This gacha is stingy as fuck, the Nier characters have some of the worst rates ever and there's not a lot of rubies front loaded iirc; you'll have to go deep into the story which probably isn't very viable during the two week Nier collab.>also are the stories the same as the game?Not entirely sure what you're asking here, but Champions of the Continent takes place 3 years before the start of the first Octopath Traveler and has its own completely original (and great) story.
Wew, I overprepared and steamrolled 9S?. Origin Caps and Origin Vests on everyone. Origin Sword on Fiore, Origin Dagger on Therion, Ma'dan Sword on Kouren and Adamantine Sword on Edea. I used the Merchant's Association Chairmen (Grandport Market) on turn 1 to debuff atk and def. I used the Piper of I'cirlo (I'cirlo) on turn 2 to buff atk, def and grant hp regen. I used the Energetic Noblewoman (Grandport Bazaar) on turn 3 to debuff atk and elemental atk.On turn 1, I used 3 hit on Fiore, max boost 3 hit on Therion, 4 hit on Kouren and 3 hit on Edea. 9S? wasted his turn entering successive strike stance. Then on turn 2 I broke him with Fiore, Therion and Kouren and brought up Alfyn to max boost panacea. Then turn 3 was everyone using their nuke max boosted with Alfyn using panacea again. Even this was playing too cautiously and 9S? was left with a literal single pixel of hp.On turn 4, he exited break and used his first action to give himself hp regen (wasted action) and then did a 2-hit spear aoe on my party, which everyone survived. Then he died to literally anything.It was over in a flash, but it took me a long time to fully explore and clear out the hunt area.WARNING!The pair of axe-wielding ice guardians in the lower right corner opposite 9S? are arguably a more frightening and difficult battle if your team is spec'd to fight 9S?, as they are not weak to sword or dagger and maybe not even weak to axe. The only weakness I found of theirs was fire, and I could only hit it because I brought Therion's 2-hit fire aoe shield crack and Edea's fire skill. They counter every attack that doesn't hit their weakness and do big damage. A couple of big aoes from these guys can decimate you.Make sure you seek out a lone sentinel mob and fully restore your hp and sp after fighting 9S? by fleeing the mob battle and going back in after spending a couple turns recovering. The fire guardians in the upper left aren't nearly as scary and don't counter.
Looks like the stream's on right now after all. Which makes me wonder where that road map came from.
>>1153669I wish it’s a sikeI already threw 9000 rubies at this banner like a fool because I thought we’d be good for meta units for like a monthI already got A4 of all three units I’m spent
>>1153870>sacredI used origin which is...I think five sets about sacred? Then again, I shitstomped the fight so you might not need origin gear. On the third hand, it's the sort of fight where if you don't stomp it, it stomps you.
>>1153900I thought the characters have their own story and that what I was asking. I already dropped it, I got like 1400 gems at first deleted account then only 500. And rolling is not difficult, but the fucking talking after the roll is annoying as hell
>>1153918Ohhh. Well, each character has their own Traveler Story, which are side stories that focus on that character. These stories consist of a prologue and three chapters. You can't go past a character's prologue until you pull the character.These stories are quite short though, the meat of the story is done through the main storylines.
GIVE ME A FUCKING A2 ALREADY FUCK
>>1153911It came from the news. They announced it this morning.
>>1153926Yeah, but I could've sworn that news notice included a link to an archived stream and said that's where the road map was revealed.
>>1153934WHAT LUCK WHEN IM OUT OF RUBIES
>>1153937Luck when you get more! There's at least 300 more rubies from login coming I believe.
Stream told us nothing new, the special announcement was the producer going over the road map which didn't point out anything that you couldn't gleam just from looking at the pic. Next stream is Apr 3.
>>1153966They got special tasks for the Bestower of Power Chapter 3.I wonder if we’ll get any info on that for the next stream. I’m really hoping April is a breather month, what between Lars and the YorHa units...
Is the a2 plug in chip equipment any good? Can't decide between it and the 2b equipment.
How do you unlock the otherworldly hunts? I am not seeing any Neir hunts and I've read the 9s redacted memoir.
>>11540659S' memoir is just his equivalent of a Traveler's story (same as A2 and 2B's if you pull 'em).You need to read the "Otherworldy Invasion" Memoir. That'll unlock the first NieR hunt and give you 2 hunt permits. From then on, you'll get 1 a day at daily reset.
>>1154072You're welcome, have fun! There's one more memoir that'll unlock after you clear the advanced (lv60) hunt, that'll conclude the event story.Not that this event has much of a story compared to the Bravely Default one. Although I saw someone raise a good point today. Bravely Default, Triangle Strategy and now the Live A Live remake are all Asano games while NieR is not. Octopath is too, so that's probably why all of the other collabs have more meat to them than NieR.
Is there a way to quickly quit arena in the middle of the battle?
>watch 8 ads (every single one is the same exact dogshit Evony one too)>6x 5000 leaves, 3 large exp nuts and 5 medium nutsThanks game>>1154161The first time through the only way is to force close the app. In memoir refights you can flee though. Yes, it is really stupid.
Is there a reason not to awaken if I have a dupe?I coulda sworn whenever I was first starting there was people saying don't awaken your lynette
>>1154188They can be used to max the ult and lynette's is just too good. They can also be exchanged for other materials including other character's awakening stones (at the ratio of 6:1), so if you don't plan to use a character ever, just use them immediately for the awakening
I'm thinking about deleting my account and uninstaling.
With the roadmap out, and the Nier Event out of the way, I can kinda gauge things a bit better.Here is my prediction:I’m predicting that once the Nier event is over, they’ll be focusing on doing a good chunk of the Chance Guidance. Especially in April and May.Largo will be the last Arena Champ until we get well into Part 4. And with the Arena Champs done and over with, there will be a new focus on the Job Towers in its place (contest and stuff).In some special cases, Titi, the Sacred Blaze Dancer will appear sometime in May.June will be the time they introduce the EX travelers. We’ll be getting Primrose EX and Tressa EX. Maybe even H’aanit EX. Keep in mind these travelers are Chance Guidance and can spook you after the event is done.The ones who AREN’T Chance Guidance are Sofia EX (Apothecary) and Fiore EX (Dancer). These two are limited travelers who’ll probably appear end of June or beginning of July.And then...once July hits, and the anniversary begins...we’ll be getting a debut of the Memoir Travelers. Starting with Herminia (Hunter/Light), Tytos (Warrior/Thunder) and Auguste (Thief/Dark). Like the Nier gang, they’ll have their own banner.
>>1154260Same desu, looking at the future of the game shows Square ruins everything with retarded RNG and powercreep.
>>1154262Thing is that Memoir Travelers are a limited Group of travelers, much like the Sacred Blaze. They are characters who appear in the main story and they are POWERFUL.Though I say they are limited, they tend to appear VERY frequently. So much so that they practically REPLACE Chance Guidance.That being said, the ring bearers have their own separate banner. So you won’t be getting Herminia, Tytos, Auguste and later Tatloch[\spoiler] in a Memoir Guidance.Once Memoir Guidance arrives on the scene, pretty much all bets are off at this point. Here’s a list of people you can expect to get from the Memoir Guidance:Richard - Warrior/Thunder [\spoiler]Alaune - Scholar/Fire/Light[\spoiler]Krauser - Merchant/Wind[\spoiler]Rondo - Warrior/Light[\spoiler]Levina - Scholar/Dagger/Wind[\spoiler]Eltrix - Warrior/Axe/Dark[\spoiler]Bargello - Thief/Wind[\spoiler]Sonia - Thief/Wind[\spoiler]Elrica - Warrior/Light/Dark[\spoiler]Alaune EX - Dancer/Ice[\spoiler]Nephti - Apothecary/Staff/Tome[\spoiler]Solon - Scholar/Spear/Fire[\spoiler]And there will probably be more to come before long.
>>1154260same, shit luck, shit pulls really kills the motivation
>>1154260>>1154271>>1154359Later bros, I hope this thread doesn't just become me and two other guys.
>>1153192Tried it. Fucked up a little. And managed to get a win in 25 turns. But fuck it! A win’s a win, and a Yan Long’s a Yan Long!I got 250 rubies coming my way which I’ll gladly take for a hard-earned Tier 2 Victory!Thanks for your help on this one, mate!
Not only are the gacha rates fucked but even status effects rates are bullshit in this game, holy shit. I've been using the dancer ally with "very high chance" of inflicting sleep for the 9S? boss and it feels like she manages to get a sleep on the first turn less than 50% of the time and has manage to not sleep him even once on any other turn, I don't even wanna imagine how bad it is to try and inflict sleep with someone that has less than "very high chance".If the sleep rates weren't so fucked it would be a nice strategy though, I can get him to half life by turn 3 (2 turns breaking, 1 turn dps), but then I get wiped because I can't get him to sleep anymore and in 1 turn that he moves, he manages to kill a whole row of my guys.
>>1154496I didn't even try sleep because I was worried he'd be immune or highly resistant. Though if it even works on that boss, now I'm wondering if there's any enemy in the game that's immune to any status effects.
>>1154496As an update, it works. Just beat him with maxed sacred gear + stage 1 of random higher lvl gear or battle tested that I got from chests, tower and whatnot. You just gotta have patience because holy shit, that 2nd sleep has a low rate, get a front row with more than 288 speed that can inflict speed down and break at least 10 shields, then:turn 1: break 10, sleepturn 2: break 10, speed downturn 3: switch rows, make sure your dps can take at least half his hp, sleepafter that, repeat turn 2 and then dps again and he's dead without even doing anything.>>1154501I heard that the battle tested and lvl100 npcs can also sleep, idk about one that's 100% immune.
>>1154480And because I’m feeling good I’ll show the party I used.I now have 103 party members under my belt. Time to take a breather until my Hunt Tickets build up.
>>1154519Damn, I'm jelly. Not sure how long Yan Long will be out of my reach, but my evening plans got cancelled so maybe I'll try for Gertrude now that 9S has been stomped.
>>1154518You beat him with sacred gear?! Amazing! Great job dude, you rock!
>>1154522Just goes to show how strong 2B and A2 are, I guess. I got lucky that I had good characters covering his weaknesses, I would probably be fucked if it was anything else. Used Kouren, Theo and Viola for break, Lianna for spd debuffs, 2B, A2, Fiore and Therion for damage, Fiore had A1, the other dps were A0. Also, I hadn't planned the formation all that well, so 2B got to act as a breaker on one turn in order for A2 to activate her berserk, but after that everyone stuck to their roles.
>>1154521What frustrates me is that while Yan Long is strong, he doesn’t seem very useful.Yan Long is a powerful staff user, but that’s it. He can only heal himself. He can only buff himself. And he only has two ice moves: one that hits twice, and one that hits a group once and lowers staff resistance.He’s a solitary character who’s more fighting monk than cleric. But I’ve earned the right to use him and I’m damn well gonna raise him for what he’s worth.
Uh, I think I stumbled into a hot period in the Nier banner. In three consecutive 10 rolls, I got both A2 and 2B, plus a couple of 9S dupes.
>>1154552It seems like the arena characters tend to be physical powerhouses with not a ton of support utility, which I guess is hard to avoid if you're trying to live up to the narrative of a group of fighting contestants battling to the death.
>>1154553You got some good luck on your side mate. Wonderful job!
>Didn't really get anything out of the Nier CollabOh well, time to restock and try again.
>Keep pulling>Still no A2AAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCK OFF
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr690vANhmoThis is probably the best clear if you have A2 and awk2 and 2B or olberic. Also the only one that doesn't rely of def buffs
Finally done with my nier pulls and all my rubies. My final 5* haul from the nier banners after completing the pity9S - 3 (including the free pull)A2 - 3 (including pity)2B - 2Molu - 1Eliza - 1Hasumi -1Kersjes - 1Lucky or not?
>>1154870Definitely lucky. Well done!
>>1154885My luck had been dogshit till now so the rng gods likely took pity on me. But even without the extra 5 stars, A2 at a2 alone is probably worth the 6k rubies. I wasn't even able to clear yanlong's crows previously, but with her I cleared the fight in 17 turns
It's just me being schizo, but ever since the collab started and we started getting 8 treasure ads a day instead of 5, my drops from them have tanked massively. All 8 were nuts on the first two days, best I've gotten is maybe silver guidestones a single time.
>>1154959Yep, it feels like the chances of getting anything decent have been abysmal since the game's release. I didn't even know you could get the Seal. But then, when there were 5 ads, the chances seemed to have improved. Now the odds are apparently: 49% nuts, 49% leaves, and the remaining 2% contains everything else.
>>1154968>Yep, it feels like the chances of getting anything decent have been abysmal since the game's release. I was just about to say "but I was having great luck when it went up to 5 ads!", and then I read the rest of your post. Now we have a nice, robust sample size of 2.
>>1154959>>1154968Funny you should mention that, because yeah, that has been happening to me too. Fewer good prizes. And fewer chubby caits as well.
>finally got a nier dupe>its 9s
>>1154986Not the strongest, but still pretty useful. Especially when you get him to A2>Spear>Fire>Thunder>Healing
i quit back during the first month because of how fucking greedy the game is, but decided to try again with nier and got 2B thankfullythe game's otherwise really nice to have all this content to catch up on, qol that was added, and my favorites are still top cutetime to save for fiore ex->there's a tressa ex that came out a month? afterwardsoh fuck
>>1155037Fiore EX is limited, Tressa EX goes into the permanent pool, if that makes a difference for ya. Welcome back bro.
>>1155037It’s gonna be awhile before we get Tressa EX and Fiore EX.Probably around June/July by the looks of things.
>>1155085how much money do you have?
Does sleep even work against the lvl 100 Donescu NPC anymore? I've tried it 6 or 7 times and it hasn't landed once, I feel like I'm going insane.
>>1155159Yes, it does
>>1155050>>1155069good to know, thanksat least tressa is second so i can hopefully secure fiore first with spare rubies for tressa
>>1155183Fiore's and sophia's summer ex banner is paid only step-up by the way. Better save 6k rubies for the worst case
Did any anon here complete the EX stages of the 60th and 70th floor of the ultimate tower? What was your party like for the "only 4 star or lesser" limitation?
>Stil no A2 It's over.
Laying down a prediction right here.For this next month we’ll first be getting Cecily. A merchant who can use Axe and Tome skills. Perfect to use against Tatloch.Furthermore, with Largo being the last Arena Champion (for now), the major focus will be the Job Towers... This will include contests for rubies.We’ll also get a Warrior and a Hunter...who I’m guessing will be Joshua and Chloe respectively. Both will have weaknesses for Largo.Not sure who the fourth person will be for April though.
>>1155341One more week! Hang in there Anon!
>>1152773Step 1 - Jack Shit.Step 2 - Hi-Hi! 9S gets A1. Olberic gets A2.And I think that’s where I’ll stop. All three of my Nier travelers have reached A1. And when April rolls around, they will soon all be A2.It was a good run. Perhaps I’ll be able to complete them next year.But in the meantime...TRIANGLE STATEGY KIMI WAAAAAAA!!!!!
Got a couple of questions on the upcoming Triabgle Strategy collab.I know that it arrives around the time the Game Board becomes a thing. At what point in Bestower of All does this happen?Also, are Roland and Frederika’s banners separate or do they share the same banner?
>4000 rubies pull>Not a single Automata UnitYeah not fuck this i'm out.
>>1155594Did you use them all at once?
>>1155599No, used 3000 on tuesday and did the level 100 npcs i had left to get 1000 since i don't have any content left for rubies. All i have left is some single pulls from daily log ins now.
>>1155600I mean used 3000 on wednesday, fuck so frustrated can't even remember the date.
How hard is the next story boss when compared to bestower of wealth? The only gear that I have upgraded is sacred gear, and I managed to almost beat his second phase with my general team, so I'm guessing I can do it if I make a team that focuses on his weaknesses next time. But I'm wondering if it's even worth farming the current best gear or if I should just wait for the next chapter in order to do that. I don't really have the patience to farm battle tested gear, so I'm just planning on using my tower drops until we get to the weapon line that doesn't use bts anymore.
>>1154861>f you have A2 and awk2 and 2B or olbericLol, lmao.
>>1153994Not really the best guy to answer as I know fuck all about the meta, good strategies and whatnot, but from what I got by using both A2 and 2B, it seems like there's little you can do for A2 not to be suicidal, even with Alfyn's regen she will still have 60% hp by the end of the turn because berserk hits after regen, so while useful, regen acessories are not THAT useful for her as long as you have a healer. Now for 2B's, if she has no sp regen acessory she's most likely gonna be running low during a fight, so her equipment should be pretty good. But yeah, I'm still on the fence on which one to pick myself.
finally finished master of all after returning and man, i was not expecting to like it that much, it was really fantastici liked wealth, had some grievances with power/fame, but overall i liked master of all more than most octopath 1 stories too
is there a quick way to update tower equipment/skills based on main story party?
The Nier banner truly was garbage huh.
>>1155702I dunno about you, but I got what I wanted from it. I just wish the Step-Up wasn’t paid. But C’est la vie...I got 9S, 2B and A2 at A1...and in 80 pulls including the free 10-pull. I got 80 Android Fragments, enough to get extra guidestones for two YorHa units.On top of that I got Nicola (A1), Cyrus (A1), and Olberic (A2).I just need to wait until I build up my 7 Hunt Tickets to give Nier the final send off it deserves.
>>1155714I'm at 140 pulls and i havent gotten a single 5 star. I think i'll just uninstall after the event.
>>1155716Did you get 9S?
>>1155719In the free pull like everyone else.
>>1155716Also did you use the step-ups?
>>1155721There’s your mistake. The non-step ups guarantee nothing. I made that mistake with Dorothea in the Sacred Blaze Banner. Though I didn’t have much of a choice, since Sacred Blaze has no step-ups...YET.Though I DID end up dumping 3000 rubies in one go only go get Dorothea (A1). It was...very unproductive.
>>1155725Good, more reasons to uninstall and move on.
To the guy who was saving his rubies and holding off on the Bestower of Wealth/Power/Fame until the Nier event came out......how did it work out for you?
>>1155716Same here, done almost every content, and seeing the future banners and powercreep kills all my motivation to even bother, i used 3k on the nier banner and just pulled a Sofia so meh. Good game with a fun story but Sqaure Enix is garbage and i don't really feel like playing anymore.
It's actually amazing how a really good collab causes mass burnout instead of alluring new players. Sasuga SE!
>>1155747Other Square Enix gacha collabs are WAY more generous with rates, pity and free currency. Don't forget they put a pay step up for Adelle for global.
>>1155747Few people on internet circlejerking about their shitty luck is not mass burnout anon. From what I see there are more new players and returning ones than there are quitters. If you want a mass burnout, wait for soul weapons to drop. And frankly I don't mind the gacha rates and banners as long as they are same as what the jp got. But the ruby income should be increased as well, to be on par with what jp got on average between two banners
>>1155632Same, Master of Wealth was my favourite of the first three stories, though I also quite liked Fame near the very end. Master of All is the best story so far imo, and of the three Bestower stories, Bestower of Power is my favourite in part because it's the direct sequel to Master of All.>>1155663Nope, managing gear and skills for multiple parties and characters is pretty ass in this game.>>1155730Not him but at last I heard he got 2B but no A2.
Finally completed both the towers. The higher ex floors are a fucking pain in the ass. And 71-100 floors are going to be even worse
>>1155952Great job!There’s still a few EX floors I’m struggling with. Definitely not ready to take on the floors that require 4-Stars.And I sure as hell am not ready for the Master Tower.
>>1155813Hope he’s happy about that at least. If not, there’s always next year.Hopefully he’ll be able to find stuff to do in between.
>>1155952By the way, who did you use for 70 EX4? The one that requires you use only 4 people on you team?
>>1156028Tressa, Agnes, A2 and primrose
>>1156046Nice! I can work with that.
whats the battle plan for 9s, his damage rapes me
>>1156341Break him first. Hit hard and hit fast. If you prolong the battle, 9S will rape you. Also, keep in mind, his weaknesses are Sword, Dagger and Axe.
Is there a list of character stones I should save for ultimate techniques and others i should awaken?
>>1156543Lynette is the only one that really wants her ultimate at level 10. Spend the rest of your awakening stones on actual awakenings.
How shit is unawakened 2B?Kind of mad I had to pity her without any dupe on the way
>>1156590One of the best warriors currently in global. Lars has the best multi-hit for breaking, but she has the better nukes. Olberic has the better nukes, but lacks the multi-hit breaking skills 2B has. So sort of like a balance between the two best warriors.She'll fall off eventually as there are many much better limited warriors coming in the future, but will stay at least decent. You'll want a lot of good travelers of every job as we shift toward job towers being the thing instead of arena cups.
>>1156607Will her not being awakened affect her ability to do her thing in any way?
What are the main 3/4 skills all the nier characters want? Managed to get both A2/9s at Awekening 2 and a single 2B
Any ideas on how I should gear up for Chapters 6 and onwards of Master of All? My level 50+ team is wearing 30-40 range gear, so they're getting their shit kicked in in the Valley of Death and in the last few boss fights.
>>1156750lvl50+ team is good enough until the final dungeon in chapter 8. As a thumb rule, make sure your characters are equipped with gear that is at most 5 levels behind your average group level and you should be fine
>>1156753Looks like I'll have to grind out a mix of 45+ weapons and armor for the whole team before I continue, then. Wonder if I can scrape by with the mix of 3*, 3.5*, 4*, and 5* travelers that form my motley crew, or if I'll have to cycle in stronger travelers with nut boosts to catch up.
>>1156756You’re not gonna win against Pardis until your team is at LEAST 60...Maybe 65.He is definitely Final Boss material.
>>1156756>>1156806yeah. "until the final dungeon" doesn't include the final dungeon, if that was confusing
>>1156811What are you talking about? You’ll DEFINITELY want to grind for Meteor Gear when you get the final dungeon.
Welp. We’re now halfway through the Nier event. Is anyone still pulling for 2B, 9S and A2 at this point?Right now I’m just waiting for my Hunt tickets to build up so that I can go on one last epic hunt and collect on a bunch of Guidestones!
Viola best girlAfter starting the fight a few times, I decided that Turn 1 Sustain or Volatile Spear is instant Flee. In my successful run I tried using the Sleep grandma but it failed so I said fuck it and boosted with a MAtk, Atk Crit 15% Ally and went to town.Cyrus + Lianna is enough to take out every other enemy on the map, so I would probably switch out Z'aanta for someone that can hit weakness like Ri'tu or just Sigrid for that little extra damage. There's also the possibility I could use Hasumi and combine it with the Shining Armor Knight Ardante to maintain 30% defense in conjunction with 30% offense down on 9S, but Volatile Spear would kill anyways.Theo has A2 and Lianna has A1. Nobody else is Awakened at all.
>>1156838And nothing in my post said anything against it. I was talking about the team level, that a 50+ team is good enough with updated gear for all areas excluding the final dungeon (edoras castle).That aside, you don't really need to grind for meteor gear before edoras castle. I cleared the fight with a lvl60 team and mostly 55 gear with some units equipping the meteor gear from the chests.
>>1156609Nope>>1156670Taken from meow's guides:>2B>1. 1-hit axe or sword nuke based on enemy weakness>2. 3-hit axe or sword nuke based on enemy weakness>3. 2-hit dark AOE with PDEF debuff>4. Front Row PDEF Up>A2>1. Berserk mode>2. 1-hit nuke based on enemy weakness>3. 3-hit nuke based on enemy weakness>4. 2-hit AOE shield break9S has a really wide kit so you should tailor it to what your party needs. I'd probably go for his 4 hit spear, lightning nuke that debuffs and party aoe defense buff. Maybe bring his heal since you have him at A2 in the 4th slot, or 2 hit spear aoe or fire aoe if the enemies are weak to those things.
how does tressa manage to have the best story in two gamesshe's simply precious
>>1157128Can’t wait to see her EX story. I wonder if they’ll do it in April, or later in June.
>first time taking these on seriouslywell that was rude
>>1157235You get 15 turns to defeat each of the Masters. Otherwise...FURY OF THE STRONG!
whats the banner situation for the next units?
>>1157340No idea. But Cecily seems like a strong choice once Bestower of Power III rolls around.We’ll find out for sure on Monday.
I wanted to start this game because of the current collab.Is there a way to roll for ONLY 2B? I don't care about the other two.
>>1157848No, other collabs had/will have separate banners. So it depends on your luck with the free 10 pulls if you're not going for pity.
>>1157855Thank you, anon.I'll try to reroll for a bit, then.
>>1157340My guess is we’re doing regular Chance Guidance.We do have Largo the last Arena Champ (for now) as well as the Warrior and Hunter Job Towers so they’ll probably give us characters to assist us in those.Chloe looks like she’ll be helpful there, given that she can heal. They might give us Tressa EX if they wanna be ballsy.
>>1155952Almost completed the Ultimate Tower.The only ones I have left are 60 EX3 and 70 EX3. The ones that require you to use 4-Stars or 3-Stars. Any tips on those two?
Finally decided to delete my account and uninstall. 150 hours in, fun game but this is one of the worst gachas i've seen when it comes to rates and currency so i won't bother anymore. I'm free.
>>1155037imagine if Tressa had her own game called Tressa's mystery dungeon
>>1157913How bad was it for you though? You played 150 hours of it. You couldn’t have had nothing to show for it right?
>>1157913I don't get people who delete their account instead of just deleting and moving on, but still, good for you anon, it's always a bad thing to let a game's daily stuff control our lives.I deleted it a while ago too but got back for Nier, I'm seeing how long the game can hold me until the rates start fucking me up again or I get too bored of the daily stuff and uninstall it again.
Just discovered the new character for the next part of the Live a Live Crossover Banner, and I’m telling you, I’ve never been so disappointed:Odio-O - Warrior Odio-S - ClericThat’s right, boys and girls. Your next characters are literally Evil Oersted and Evil Streibough. I’m not joking.And guess what? They’re not even EX travelers so you can do double the Oersted and double the Streibough.[\spoiler]
>>1157952waste of a collab
>>1157952I get that everybody knows about Oersted and Straybow now, but why didn't they do the 7 main characters + Oersted? Sure, you'd have to bullshit most jobs, but 9S the "Merchant" and A2 the "Theif" is already bullshit and nobody cares.Sundance - Hunter Pogo - ApothecaryAkira - ScholarOboro - TheifMaster - ClericCube - DancerMasaru - MerchantAnd like Nier, each character can get skills that fit them. Sundance - Fire, townspeople throwing molotovs. Mainly just multishot Bow.Pogo - Starts a fire, not much aside from clubbing. Jumps could grant dodge stacks.Akira - Has a lot of PSI elements, but Light/Dark could workOboro - Same as Akira, could have limited uses of Ice/Wind Ninja tools. Master - Different weapon types for different techniquesCube - Lightning, but mainly a healer/bufferMasaru - Same deal as Master, he could call out fighters or just do their techniques. Also the debuff skill.It would be a lot more colorful and interesting than NTR guys, but I guess this is OT COTC so it's required.
newfag here got a few question. should I rush story and blow all gems on this banner for dupes or save? also why is A2 a thief? I thought she would be a warrior or something. I got Viola as my starter, can I run 2 thieves in the party and be ok for all content? other than this banner I got only the 3* starters so what would be a good party to go with what I have now?
>>1157894As long as your 4 stars are awakening 3 and around lvl 70, they are actually not that hard, just irritating to do. Focus on surviving rather than quickly killing the enemy, you will clear it within the turn limit anyway.Also devin is your friend. Especially in lvl 70 ex iirc, where the second enemy hits you for like 4-4.5k damage in a single hit
>>1158025Pulling more on nier banner isn't actually a bad idea considering you will need to fill your roster out and the fact that A2 is just too versatile. But if you think you will be playing until july, I will save it for anniversary banners.>. I got Viola as my starter, can I run 2 thieves in the party and be ok for all content?For most of the content, yeah, not an issue. Especially because A2 can actually deal 3 types of damage
>>1158025Definitely do the story, but try to to all the side quests that appear along the way.As for banners...well...the Nier banner only lasts until Wednesday. Do at least one step up, even if you have to buy rubies for it>But Anon, I’m FTP!Your free to play FTP...but just know that Step Ups guarantee 5-Stars on your team (1200 rubies is the magic number). Rolling the free banner guarantees nothing and the rate for 5-Stars is a measly 4%.A2 is a thief because 2B is a Warrior. Simple as that.You could do two thieves in one team. But I’d rather have Viola in one team and A2 in a second team.You’ll be getting plenty of rubies at the start so I recommend doing every step-up you come across in order to get 5-Stars to get coverage. You could do the Special Callings to play Catch-Up (1000 rubies) or you can go for the new guys (1200 rubies). Once you get through Master of All, THEN start saving your rubies, because that’s around the point where the well starts to dry up.Remember, you want to get all eight jobs, and have all six elements on your team. That’ll get you through most of the story.Later on you’ll want to look into Specialized Teams for facing the Arena Champs, the Masters and even the Bestowers, but that’s another story.Also...Sacred Blaze Guidance occurs every three months (May is the next month), and Crossovers MIGHT occur every five months (August).Good luck! May the odds be ever in your favor.
>>1158115Another thing to keep in mind. Not all Step-Ups are paid. Only the ones with the REALLY GOOD CHARACTERS.
>AnniversaryYeah if the game doesn't die by then.
>>1153908Where do you get origin gear?
>>1158178Sufrataljah. The Golden Palace area. And you forge the Origin Gear in Sufrataljah, the same town you forge the Twilight Gear in.
>>1157940Not him but my bad luck with the game and how stingy it is is what made me quit the game months ago; two hands are just enough to list my current 5*s and if it wasn't for pity I wouldn't have Primrose either.I picked the game up last week for the goodwill I got after playing Octopath 2 and only got the free 9S and a 4.5* Alfyn ever since, now I just gave up on high-difficulty content and am here to see what's behind Master of All.
My reroll hell is over
>>1158570>all dupesyou are absolutely insane but congratulations anon
>>1158570So where are you in terms of Awakenings for 2B, 9S and A2?
>>11586362 for 9s1 for the other two
>>1158640Good job! You got me beat for that one, but I’ll catch up with you tomorrow.
>>1158161It'll probably last at least until anniversary due to one year being a common cutoff point for SE to kill their own games (there's even some examples coming up in April) but that'll be when we know if global's gonna last another year or not.The next banner is going to be the most skipped banner in history no matter who it is and now that they've publicly revealed the next big thing to save for won't be until July plus the NieR collab showing everyone just how pointless it is to roll unless you've saved up 6k rubies, which takes ages in this game, means I think we'll see less people pulling going forward in general. This game's already either the lowest or the second lowest money maker on the monthly charts for SE and those numbers will see a spike from NieR (which still won't put it above any other games) and then a drop for a while I bet.
>>1158570Holy shit. The best reroll imaginable. Massive congrats dude, I don't wanna know how much that took.
>twenty (20) entreats in flamesgrace
What do I do with historical fragments
New Spring Photo. Only for one day. Quick, take a pic, or you’ll miss it!
>beat my first veteran[Happy Tressa Noises]
>>1158217What chapter is that in? I'm sorta new
>>1159132Bestower of Fame Chapter 3.
>>1158956Wait for the things that allow you to fully awaken four star characters to be added to their exchange.>>1159030And don't forget to turn up your volume because this is the only photospot with a voice line!>>1159038Nicely done. Eventually, these guys will be so weak you'll be clearing them in a few turns as part of your daily chores.
>>1159149Always wondered about this, but how many fragments do we need to upgrade the 4 stars? We get so much useless stuff that can be converted into historic frags that I feel like adding bt npcs to the daily grind is unnecessary
if anyone is still rerolling i got a fresh account with the 3 niers, lynette and millard up for grabs
>>11592847500 is the number I've seen thrown around.
>>1159284>I feel like adding bt npcs to the daily grind is unnecessaryI just do it for the chance at BT weapons, the once a day frags are just a bonus for me.
>>1159382That will get you all the Awakening Stones you can for the 4-Stars available.
any of the nier accessories worth getting? i will end this banner at 100 pulls
i've been using 3.5* characters i like and i don't really want to replace them, but they're getting walled by shards and level cap currently around 70should i just stop investing in anyone that's not a 4.5*?
>>1159626start awakening those 3.5s to 4s.....
>>11596182B's and A2's are both good, so get one for whoever you have and if you have both, whoever you plan on using more.
>>1159627no they are already upgraded to 4*, i just meant they're 3 to 4* at base
>>1159626They are going to be useful for a few more months at the very least. Try to get them to lvl 74, further levelling is mostly useless
So, is there more to Pardis III than just being "rargh argh I want everything" that shows up in chapter VIII of Master of All or later? Because I don't see how he's demonstrating his mastery of the three influence types besides what he inherited as a king.
>>1159833Well, at his peak, there's nobody on the continent with more wealth, fame and power than him.Until the Bestowers blow that out of the water by making him small potatoes in all three categories except maybe fame.
Honestly do you think this game will make it another year? A lot of gloom in this thread and some JP players are saying some of the new things aren't great.
>>1159889yeah all they need to do is start making ff collabs and the money will come rolling in
>>1159889I've seen a lot of SE gacha games come and go over the years and right now, I'm feeling 50/50. The low profits aren't a good look, as SE is very quick to cut games loose if they underperform. Unless they are Romancing SaGa global, which has a very good and unique reason to be kept alive despite atrociously low profits.However, with the way global moves at a much faster pace, I am hopeful that even if they shut things down after the next major story, we'll have closed the gap with JP far enough that they will do something similar to Mobius where Mobius JP shut down after wrapping up season 2 of the story and global was allowed to live long enough past that point to also reach the end even though they were six months or so behind JP at the time.I don't believe it'll last more than a few more years at most as there is no turning it around at this point. The IP just doesn't have the pull, it's lacking a number of elements that successful mobage have and they've made a lot of bad decisions with it.So long as I get to experience all of the story I'll be happy, even if I have to experience some traveler stories on youtube 'cause no way you can collect 'em all in such a stingy gacha. I'm definitely riding this train all the way to the end of the line no matter what, but I doubt I'll give them any more money besides the 15 bucks in Google credit I used to finish the pity for Cyrus.