The new rhythm game mode and the second score attack are going live in a few hours. Who did you vote for in the popularity poll?
>>1129069Ruka, Tama, Aoi.Anyone remember what the rewards for the rhythm game mode are? I hope they make it slightly difficult and worthwhile because if not I'm just gonna spend a few hours fcing, and that's basically it for the mode.
>>1129076150 quartz and 3 lifestones per song, I think. Should be about 2000 quartz in total for the stuff that is currently available.
>>1129069Yuina, Hisame, MegumiIt was very satisfying seeing my favorite win #1.
New poses/expressions:Adelheid: Bravado, Fatigue, Serious2, UpsetCarole: TiresomeIchiko: Sadness2Isuzu: Joy3, Shy2, Upset3Kanata: Sadness4Mari: Neutral2Minori: Joy2, Upset2Mion: Anger2 (pic)Muua: Anger, GreatFatigue, Joy2, TightSmile, Upset2Niina: Upset2Tama: Pose_04, Sadness3I think there may be a 31E event coming. Karerin also has a new cutin.And in case there are newfriends around who are wondering what this means, you can download this tool right here to look at and save expressions from the game's character sprites:https://mega.nz/folder/YBgACaab#ib8kGdpcgVjA1V_wiFEpYgAll part of a regular asset dump, not a complete one, only images and music. Although there really wasn't anything else noteworthy besides new gacha banners in this last update.https://mega.nz/folder/FEJmyT7S#JuWVjfu62qrPPpmby46x8g
>>1129069Aoi Nanamin Yuuki
>>1129069Ruka, Isuzu, and Mya-san
>>1129069I don't have good explanations for my picks. I just like these the most. I'm glad Tsukasa ranked highly, but being from 31A that was pretty much a given. And the styles are the ones I'm never surprised find useful in almost all my teams.
I didn't expect there to be skills too
Hard optional bosses might be impossible for me, but at least I can easily FC all the songs. That's what really matters.
>>1129154bwos.... what skills to use....
So in light of the fact I don't have Higuchi or Yunyun I should dump everything into the gacha now right? I'm looking for an excuse to dump everything.
Isn’t this game 3%? How is this like the 3rd time already I’ve gone 100+ without an SS.
>>11292063% isn't that high
>>1129206I pulled 5 SSR(+3 Yurripe) out of 200 rolls trying to search for Kanade. It's a luck issue anon
So as a new player, should I just keep rolling the AB banner in hopes of dupes? Going by what I have talked with someone else, the AB characters might fall behind simply because they can't take skills from other styles. Plus the whole gone when they're gone thing due to Maeda.
>>1129175Always scoring
>>1129206Everyone in NIKKE was pulling Makima and Power left and right while I didn't get even one SS in 15 multis. Their rate was 4%.Shit happens, anon.
>>1129177Depends, do you like to do SA or Hoju speedruns? I've been using both for those.Though I kinda wonder how stuff might change regarding Higumin with the new orb coming up.>>1129226Tenshi-chan is strong right now, recommend you get her since she's limited and all that, but yeah, as you said, she might get crept down the road, but that's just the way of the soshage. You get Yurippe for free though.
I feel like the flicks are stricter than what I'm used to...
Don't worry Yuki, you're always number 1 in my heart.
>>1129086>Tama: >Sadness3Maeda stop. Get some help.
Who are the lowest popular characters tho? Why no balls, WFS?
I haven't played a rhythm game in over a decade because of how shit I am at them.
>they recorded a bunch of new lines just for the rhythm game mode SOVL
Good thing I logged in. Free pull again, and a fakeout MC light lb2. I take it. She didn't want to get left behind, huh.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/16290736899029852171st place in TW app store. I guess these servers are doing fine, this really increases the chance of them trying EN at some point.
I thought they were gunna add the angel beats songs in live mode too
>>1129275Yeah same. I play Bandori too and it feels that I'm missing flicks way more here.
This gacha is so funny actually. You have this gameplayfag vs characterfag/coomers split, so half the styles are pure value meta and half are just bloat if you're NOT the characterfag of these specific girls.
>>1129829Aren't Higumin and YunYun the only real gameplay style votes? Seira panders to both a bit, but she certainly didn't make the cut on her gameplay merit.
>>1129829I dunno, all styles seem good for gameplay. Seira may not be as good as the fire equivalent, but is still pretty good for ice teams. Plus with her normal version, you have a still relevant crit buffer who thanks to the alt also gains access to a really good dungeon multihit aoe blunt move. That shit is REALLY rare. Tsukasa's ult is probably a bit outdated, but if you have vanilla, it's still pretty nice for fire. With the advent of Higuchi alt and YunYun taking the place of the best "no element" buffers, Tsukasa doesn't seem to be that great anymore, but new people would still get a lot out of her.MC light is a beast in new dungeons. Huge OD generation aoe ulti is just absolutely awesome to have. Same for Yuina alt.Don't need to talk about Higuchi alt and YunYun.I'd consider Aoi the worst out of the bunch, but by no means bad. It's a pretty good banner. I run dungeons with Karen alt, Miko and MC light for quite some time, and I can tell you these multi hit aoe ultis are a fucking god sent. I'd love a blunt multi hit aoe unit, but even if I'd get one, Monaka lb2 is really hard to replace.
>>1129846>MC light is a beast in new dungeons. Huge OD generation aoe ulti is just absolutely awesome to have. Same for Yuina alt.I don't agree. Obviously, any non-complete-shit unit is good if you have nothing at all, but if you actually have something, these Ruka and Yuina aren't the attacker/blaster you look for unless you like them. This "kinda decent QoL" isn't cutting it when the alternatives are just insane. Imagine if it was Maki or A-san instead of Yuina, it's like day and night.>Tsukasa's ult is probably a bit outdatedTsukasa swimsuit is especially sad because the buffer powercreep in this game is just off the charts. You have Higumi, you have YunYun, you have elemental slots(if it's not fire, but then you need to have the other style still), they will probably pull out an another retarded broken buffer in a few months, there's just no place for her. Maybe she will get more lucky with her next alt.
Use her name
>>1129838>Seira panders to both a bit, but she certainly didn't make the cut on her gameplay merit.I think Seira alt is 100% a gameplay vote. She was shilled really hard by the metafag youtubers/twitter&5ch gameplayfags, they all were like "you HAVE to get her, she's amazing" during her banner and it was just like barely a month before the poll started. If this poll was done on the next half anni instead of this anni, she probably wouldn't be there, but the recency bias is strong.
>>1129964Really? Wow. I mean she is good, but she only benefits ice team. But if she was pushed hard by them then that's that.Adel is probably what I would vote as meta character #3 behind YunYun and Higumin.
>>1129961Her name was Aoi Erika
Why do people keep uploading these >look, I used Higuchi&Yunyun together with an attacker and the damage number is bigvideos like they accomplished something, I don't get it. I'd be more impressed if they didn't use them.
I don't know how to feel about this result.
>>1129964Huh, I assumed Seira2's were coomer votes, same as with Tsukasa2. Seika2 is the one that struck me as the obvious metafag vote.
>>1129981Asian "look what I can do with money!" showboating is my guess. I don't understand it in the slightest so I generally just stick to my art and story related circles.
>>1129981I like seeing big numbers get bigger.
>>1129997Getting a YunYun copy alone is great, Aoi is just gravy.
>>1129981Videos like that have been a thing for as long as videos have existed, and the practice has been around as long as stat autism has. As long as there are numbers to exploit autistic people will exploit them, without regard to any kind of in game importance
>>1129981>why do people upload useless videosmy dude, you have not seen the depths of youtube
Speaking of large numbers What's the live mode skill meta? Do the skills stack in multipliers like regular pve? If they do stack, I guess the perfect team would be team leader, score up, perfect up, combo up, and then the last 2 is any of the previous 3. Otherwise wouldn't a full team of buffers be the best choice? Unless perfect up gives the most voltage and you're good.
>>1130057Usually these games have some skill/perk trees or there's a large variety of meta units you can utilize or something else like that, so you can actually theorycraft something in your biggest number showcase. In this game it's basically pic related right now.
>>1130079I haven't gone into it too deep. But I talked with the game8 guy on twitter earlier about it, and mostly having a unit commander and attacker/breakers work well for high score.
So in the event, was it just a coincidence that the flower field that they stayed in was filled with all the flowers that Irie had loved? Or was that the flowerfield that the glasses guy made after Irie had died in memorial to her? Also does the AB event set the stage for male characters appearing in the future as NPCs?
>>1130079Real human bean meta is>spam healers/debuffers/defenders>randomly tap on notes>try to look like you understand what you're doing(important)
>>1130093Didnt it grow around her
>>1130093> Also does the AB event set the stage for male characters appearing in the future as NPCs?4.2 teaser already kinda did that.
>>1129951I have lb1 A-San and she stays home. I prefer Karen (lb1) and MC light (lb1.. well, as of today lb2 but that's not important) over her in dungeons any day.The OD gain is really something not to underestimate. A-San's non ultimate skills are also not very good for dungeons either.Also talking down convenience in a game where the majority of shit is about convenience is just dumb. You don't need any of the broken units for anything relevant. Having them is just.. you guessed it, convenient. We all end up gravitating towards the most convenient styles to use in a specific situation. I'm sure you can also use something like swim Tsukasa just fine, the newer all around buffers are just more convenient.
Should I just dump my gems as a new person into the current stuff to try to get stuff or just save for guarantees
>>1130133It's worth it to get Kanade cause she's limited. save for guarantee otherwise.
>>1130133You pretty much get a full free spark as a new player so dump everything into the AB! gacha.I'm a returning player who rolled a new account two weeks ago and am currently 164 rolls into the banner just from free quartz. Kanade hasn't appeared yet...
If they're actually going to release new ice styles for the new orb boss, most likely candidates are a Ichigo and Byakko alt.
rate the rythm game
>>1130531The quartz isn't enough of an incentive for me to touch it, but I'm glad it exists.
>>1130531It needs more songs to be a real rhythm game. Also a harder difficulty level.
>>1130531shit key config
>>1130531Pretty good for being developed by just one guy at WFS. Having some issues with flicks sometimes.
Since the AB characters didn't return, I hope we get three more of them for a full team and just integrate them as the new team.
>>1130531Fun gimmick. At worst it's a way to rewatch the lives at. My only problem is that it's scuffed to play with a Bluetooth headset. There is a setting that is supposed to help for bluetooth, but as far as i can tell it doesn't change when the notes appear visually, so it feels desynched to the rythm. Not sure if this is a problem on my end or just with rythm games in general.
I want to skip the story to get faster rewards but then that means I have to go back and read later and I know that won't happen
>>1130461The alts don't always follow on the same elements though, 31C went form Light to Ice in like a month.
>>1130680I'm just saying that because 31B is currently the only team on the ice track with Sumomo and Kozue. But I guess they can also retroactively give Tenne an ice alt like they did with Seria. They can also just skip the new orb fight and wait till the 31E or D event on the 9th. In which case I think that'll be an entire month without any new styles.
>>1130685>In which case I think that'll be an entire month without any new styles.Technically yes, but we basically got 2 new banners(RukaYuki and AB) at the same time instead of them being spaced out through the month.
>>1130685>But I guess they can also retroactively give Tenne an ice alt like they did with SeriaI think she might be light too. The future debuffer styles are probably something likeVritika: Thunder, she had a thunder passive on her SSharo: Ice, Maria was ice, so 31X seem to have an element splitFubuki: Dark, following 31D and her general aestheticsAina: Maybe no element? No idea.Megumi alt: Fire? Thunder blunt debuffer would overlap with Vritika. Maybe she's not a debuffer.
>>1130693The element split thing for 31x actually makes sense with how their team portrait looks. I really wouln't want Sharo to be a shitty ice debuffer though
Any must roll characters? I'm here to check out the story and roll for eventual favs but if meta characters are necessary I might as well reroll for them now
>>1130547You can change it. They actually put a ton of effort into this.
>>1130709Meta aside, the best thing to reroll for right now are probably the collab characters as they are limited. Especially Kanade since you will get a guaranteed Yuri if you log in 10 days during the event.
Ruka looked really good as the real size statue, but the actual 1/7 is kinda whatever, can't say I'm particularly impressed or have any desire to buy it.
>>1129175>bwosBASED
>>1130709Only thing you must have to get through the story is a decent healer and you won't have to reroll for one right now because the welfare S rank unit from the AB! collab is really solid.Rerolling for one of the two current meta buffers (SS2 Seika or SS Yingxia) will trivialize every fight you'll encounter in the story and help greatly with other challenges but neither of them is really required.Absolutely do reroll for Kanade because she'll be gone in two weeks.
>>1130735But what about the upskirt?
>Tsukasa was always in awakened mode on the team visual teasing ch.3>Megumi was always sad and slightly separated from the group teasing ch.4Tamabros, how do we interpret this.
>>1130735Depending on the price point that's either a cool base or a pretty boring sculpt.
Didn't play mari's event before, do you get any good rewards from doing the dungeon?
>>1130962You just get medals.
How are you supposed to do the guitar slide on PC?
>>1131046You just don't, it works like it's a normal long note.
>>1131046Keep the initial key pressed throughout.At the horizontal blue lines tap the key for that line.eg. in this situation you would hold N throughout and tap B at the blue line.
>>1130971Are medals exchangeable between events or is it a specific medal per shop?
>>1130971About the mari event, does it not gib 1500 gems? I started during summer event and those gave 1500 onwards.>>1131077specific medals
are more events going to get 3x after mari?
>>1131079>About the mari event, does it not gib 1500 gems?It does not. A lot of the older events had important rewards (quartz, SS pieces) tied to the score attack rather than the event store. So if you missed the SA, you miss the rewards.They realized this later and fixed it, but didn't retroactively add stuff to the old stores.
>>1131100Did we even have score attacks yet when Mari's event was live? The grind for it was the worst, but it was also the first. I'm glad they learned from it. I even preferred the event dungeons over how few tokens Mari's boss fight gave me.
>>1131099Yes but they are going to be a month apart from each other
When is the daily reset?
>>11315474AM in japan iirc
Are dupes important in this game? I rerolled for the angel beats characters and got the buffer Seika. Should I just keep dumping my gems into angel beats or should I go for the popular vote banner?
>>1131656Yes, pretty important. They raise the level cap by 10, which makes a big difference in the later content. You probably want to diversify in styles, attributes and elements, so the popular vote banner isn't a bad choice. In the beginning you'll be fine with any attribute, but then they'll start mattering more and more and so will elements like fire, thunder, etc. Kanade is pretty strong for her role but not a must-have unless you're really into Angel Beats. The other banner has a higher chance of giving you good styles.
>>1131656Dupes are important for classes that actually attack because their stats get massively affected by it, not so much for the buffers/debuffers/healers, most of their effects either don't scale at all or barely scale.
>>1131656As a new player you can get 3 free dupes from past events and ~7 free dupes per year from new events and the limit break device.Dupes are good but I wouldn't specifically roll for them unless you plan to spend serious money on this game.
Decided to roll with the 3k quartz they gave us today and got lucky.
>>1131913Wow
>>1131913Welcome to the meta, enjoy your stay.
I got a random SS but it was Elemental Tama without the cool hat. Is she really a healer? Why does a healer need to swing a fire sword around
>>1131956Regular Tama has a sword too. Why not swing a fire sword around? It's cool.
The rhythm game sucks on pc.
>>1132024Why would you play a rhythm game on something you can't feel rhythm on?
the writing in mari's event is worse than the island survival
But the Mari event wasn't written by Maeda
it's bad though
>>1129069I want her to fuck ruka
Burn my Soul - Ichigo ver.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIiAPsZOcEUApparently her VA's oshi is Aina for whatever reason
>>1132545I hope Ichigo will sing in-game at some point, even if it's just for a gag. Aimi is great.
Just finished listening to the new radio episode.Karen's VA popularity poll vote: Karen, Tama, Yamawaki(no ship pandering for you)Tama's VA: Tama, Karen, MegumiApparently, Tsukasa's VA talks too much behind the scenes and simply won't shut up. Both of them also took the time to express how great Megumi's VA was and that they want to work with her again. That's pretty much all I got from it, you really don't lose much not listening to it weekly.
>>1132545>for whatever reasonYou need good taste to understand
I'm so close to 200% and still have no plan for who to use it on.
>>1132905Yeah, I've been hoping for a Hisame or other 30G SS2 to dump it into but if that doesn't come out in time I'll probably just make my Yuina SS1 LB3.
>>1132905I'll probably just use it on yunyun and maybe take her to lb3 for that 25% boost to buffs. But does her and Space Higuchi's passive only apply to certain buffs or all buffs?
>>1132964It's everything that provides an enhance-like buff. So enhance, doping, and each of their buff ults. But not the thunder ult, and not the +hit bonus damage from YunYun.
>>1132964>But does her and Space Higuchi's passive only apply to certain buffs or all buffs?It boosts attack ups specifically, so stuff like enhance or attack up part of their ults will get buffed, but their thunder field, crit damage increase, multi hit attack modifier won't get affected. By the way, why do they even have attack ups on their already busted ults when Tsukasa alt ult is literally just attack up and nothing else?
I wonder when someone will get that 1sp backline regen passive YunYun S and Shiki S have, they have shown surprising restrain in not giving it to any SS yet.
>>1132989>>1132990>not the hit+ or crit damage upAh, it's not as good as I thought it was. I guess I'll just give them to Kanade then
>>1133002At least they're crystal clear about what it does. I remember when people here were guessing if +% debuff increase affects stun chance or not(it does).
By the way, how exactly do these buff/debuff boost effects work? Is it additive or multiplicative?
>>1133022There's something that increases debuff %? Is it an accessory/dungeon item or something?
>>1132999Because it's broken. It's so broken you are better off using yunyun S, even if you have her SS. Trading up to 1 sp/turn for her vs 1 sp for all in the back is an easy trade, provided yunyun is still tanky enough to stand in the front. Her damage (and as such stats) aren't really important otherwise.
What's the craziest arena stuff you pull off with lb0 carol? I went in with low expectations so her effortlessly one-shotting 超上級1 with just an enhance has me wondering what's possible.
>>1133038It's from those hoju bonuses classes get, debuffers get +% debuff
>>1133063Oh it's those stat things. Do they even show how much you have? I don't think they're listed anywhere in the parameter tabs
>>1133040It's not like things being broken stopped them from releasing it anyway before, the real question is when it will reach the level of their powercreep acceptance.
>VoltageShould've called it overdrive
Sora Amamiya started following HBR on twitter(she only follows works she actually participates in), nips are speculating she's either the new loli VA or Hisame replacement.
>>1132697The absolute state of bakasa
The game won't give me a Megumi but I won't give up
>>1133667At this point it's probably more beneficial to save for her next alt banner.
>>1133541Wouldn't she be a pretty big name to put on Hisame? Not that I know much about the other VAs here. I'm not that well-versed in the culture.
>>1133703Chapter 5 is 30G! Hisame the new main character! You heard it here first!
>>1133703Kinda, but Hisame was also top 10 in the popularity poll, so you can capitalize on her as a character. But obviously it doesn't have to be her, with 4.2 expanding the world they can introduce more plot relevant characters.There's obviously also an option that it was a missclick from some intern managing her account, shit happens.
>>1133541She unfollowed, but I did see it before she did. Suspicious...
Daily login SS day, and mine's probably going to go unused. Who did you get?
>>1133990Nikaidou
>Sumomo SS1 dupeWould be nice to get a character I like for once, but a dupe is a dupe.
>>1133990Monaka dupe, putting her at LB2. Considering I'm focusing on 30G this is certainly one of the better outcomes. Last free gSS I got Bungo...
>>1133990I'll take an extra otamasan for free
>>1133990Swimsuit Tsukasa
>>1134020I got my third Monaka, too, but also a bonus Miya. She looks useful for dungeons but not so much for bosses if Megumi already has a defense debuff and fragile.
>>1134032Nice! I also have Miya but without LBs I find it hard to bring her to the hoju dungeon. Megumi definitely overlaps her role in dungeon unless you really need Light Field.Miya is really nice in score attack, because you can run YunYun+Miya and get both of Megumi's debuffs with extra buffs to go with it.
>>1134034Yeah, I wish I'd pulled Yunyun or even the second Higuchi. Technically if I get lucky the first Higumin also has a chance to apply a defense debuff with her ultimate. I'll have to try replacing Megumi with Miya since I use Higumin everywhere already.
My SS after 77 days of playing. I know I don't have the most broken characters, but it was enough to beat the story, so I am fine with them.
>>1134048That's not a bad selection. I'm pretty sure you could make it through most score attacks with that. A debuffer like Megumi would be really helpful though.
Did my free 10 and the step up. Could've been better in terms of what I got, but quantity-wise the game is trying to make up much worse days.The popular banner is still going for a while, so I can decide if I want to try to get YunYun. But honestly, I'm fine without her. I think. Would've still kinda liked to get her.Now to think what to limit break aside of Kanade. I can never decide.
>got IchigoFucking hell
>>1133990Chiroru. Lb2 now. WHY GOD WHY. I'm at like 240 days of playing now and I still have less SS than >>1134048.
I got new Nina. Don't know what to feel about this though since I already have LB1 Byakko.
>>1133990I even finally got Kanade right after
Did they fix the bugs yet?
>>1134654There are bugs?
Had to grind some light stones anyways, so I did a little test run with Kanade lb1 lvl 115 against the boss. It's weak to slash and light. Enhance + Higuchi alt buff + 2 fragile (Miya) + 2 light def down (Hisame) + 2 self buffs -> casual 2 million damage against HP. I even forgot the field. She's a big girl all right. I'm not whale enough for the big number fetish, but she gets to pretty big numbers surprisingly fast. That's her only prism boss though, as the other ones get all qed'ed.
>>1135097And then I realized that I haven't grinded those in forever, and you actually get dark stones from that boss. I suppose it makes sense, but alas. At least I could test her once. Back to qed it is.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1631255557586972673I wonder what they meant by "being nuisance to other users" when this game is 100% single player. Everything else is self explanatory.
>>1135800They don't call it hebuBAN for nothing, I guess. That aside, I'm just as lost as you are.
>>1135800>>1135806I guess account stealing?.
4 SP for the crit damage buff. Pretty reasonable.Need to check for values vs Higumin, I'll post science in a bit if no one else does.
https://twitter.com/gazou774/status/1631481578986835968/photo/1Well this explains it better, but it's 20% crit damage at 450 wisdom. 10% less than Higumin's unique skill.
The new orb bosses are no joke. A shame that the orb itself kinda is.
>>1136317I've seen some guy on 5ch saying that it was as good as Higumi when they first added it with the files update, then it got pre-nerfed, but I don't datamine, so I can't say if it's true or if he's just bullshitting.
>>1136504It was 30% at 450 WIS (15-30% range iirc) before the nerf, yes.
>>1136497If you have Higuchi alt, I'd actually consider it good enough. It's a nice way to spend a turn and have Higuchi buff you, to then swap into the back. It's probably better than taking the crit chance orb for that, given that you reach 90% crit chance between charge and Higuchi alt. Unless you are unlucky, or they do another -50% crit chance score attack.
>>1136558Good point. Right now I don't have her, but I'll be sparking the HiguKoju2 rerun banner later this month.
>>1136560Though looking at the fight, I'm a little confused how to even beat that past the first.The strongest single target hits for 3230, and aoe goes for 2470. (field removed that is, which in itself takes some time) Maybe I don't understand how the AI is written on seraph db, but that looks like too much damage to me, for it come in the very same turn. Or are they alternating with their attacks or something? I'm not going to be able to play till later. But that looks like RNG central on first glance.
If next event is really 31E related, I'm sure they'll make Yotsuha busted someone like every new buffer now that elemental buffs are done with
>>1136567It's a bit overtuned, yes. Between that and this orb not being a high priority, I can't say I'm in any rush to get it done. It likely won't be an issue in a couple of months once 4.2 comes out and we get more ways to get stronger.>But that looks like RNG central on first glance.Judging from the few discussions I've seen so far, it is indeed a very RNG-heavy fight.
>>1136571I've yet to try it, but I did a little theory crafting.Team:lb 1 on everyone is likely required.-Mari-A-Chan-Higuchi alt-Tama-Yanagi-AoiProblem is, I JUST got Aoi, so I have her not trained at all, so I can't try this. But the idea is.-Aoi protects turn 4, 7, 11, 14. She will stay in the front all the time, other than in turn 6, 9 ,13 and up to 3 turns of your choice. She needs 40 sp to use all her ults by turn 14. Given the starting 4 SP, you need to regen 36. Without LB bonus, you'd get 28, so you need to stay 8 turns in the front. 4 are free (first turn, and 3 ultis), 4 are not. I think there's a good amount of wriggle room.-Mari helps with enhance and field removal, and has a water aoe nuke as well. This strategy might not even need a field remover like Mari, as it looks like only turn 4, 7 and so on use the element. But seraph db might be wrong there, I dunno. Just in case. If it's really not needed, you are likely better with a different char.-Higuchi's job is to hyper drug A chan and Mari.-A chan will charge twice and then use her ultimate with the help of Higuchi. OD drive bonus acc might be good. Mari/possibly someone else probably also wants to go like that, especially if the field isn't needed ASAP.-Tama and Yanagi keep the party alive from the regular big damage that hopefully isn't lethal.Once you hit turn 18, it's overdrive and killing time. You can probably get 1 good A chan aoe ulti out before that which hopefully breaks, which can screw up turns and their move sets. Needs testing.If someone has the necessary stuff, I'd like to hear if it could work. I need to get my Aoi going before I can test anything though. And recently I don't have time for shuttle running..
https://www.4gamer.net/games/487/G048777/20230303001/Another report about gorillions of money this game made.
>>1136609I always expect this game to be way more niche with less spenders and then I get shellshocked
>>1136613I still feel like it's just that the game has a very large proportion of whales compared to other games. A lot of them aren't exactly into yuri either so I'm not too thrilled about it, not when we've been getting so little on that front lately.
>>1136605The thing with Aoi is that her invincibility is for individual attacks. It was annoying with the double gem prisms and it's brutal here since her stat spread isn't that great for tanking without the invulnerability and she doesn't have something like Ichiko's cheap regular taunt + def up. If I could, I'd definitely rather get the field out of the way and see if I can more consistently get a full combo out more quickly, but unfortunately I don't have Mari and my Seika1 is the only non-LB0 buffer I have, so I'm not exactly in a position to test either.
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202303/03293340.htmlThey published Maeda's interview from the recent Famitsu issue.By the way, I have completely forgot there's a live concert this month, it got delayed an eternity ago.
Our last SS debuffer release was like 5 months ago.
4 turns and OD. Pretty consistent setup, I'm sure I could cut down Megumin to slot in someone else to learn the skill, if I had LB1 Swimomo.
I'll be honest, though some ult animations look cool, a lot of this game's animations look really stiff and awkward. I hope they'd use that money to improve or add new animations for the basic skills instead of just reusing the same ones.
>>1136768Never. It's also awful how they used the animations as part of the balance of the game, since # of hits gives you OD. So 打 is always fucked just because they animated it that way.
>>1136768The non-spastic camerawork is one of the battle system's greatest points.
>>1136774Yeah, I was looking at some gachas that were released recently to see how they compare with HBR and their camera is jumping around like crazy, the games are just jerking it off non-stop.
>>1136769>NeverI think this can happen if enough people will put it into the questionnaires, ask them on fan meetings and stuff, they make enough money to do it. And this game only have 48 characters and some of them are already unique, so it's not that hard. They can even start with 31a only and then slowly proceed.
I kind of missed it last month, but someone actually managed to take a sneak shot of the Yuina's figurine prototype.
>>1136837>撮影禁止
>>1136869So it goes
I don't know when they undid the change, but I'm glad you're not restricted to Japanese names for your teams anymore.
>>1136942Oh yeah, was glad when I noticed that was fixed. Would definitely be a pain with all the new team slots we have.
>>1134041This actually worked. I got my first 8-digit damage number when before I was getting 5-7M on the plant. I think Miya's light field definitely helped more than a second defense debuff.
>>1136620I know about the 2 actions only thing. What I forgot about is the fact she also absorbs aoe, and not just taunts after that. The first really bad turn is followed by 2 aoe apparently, and no matter who you are, taking 6 hits in your face isn't a thing. And you can't exactly keep her con and such low to only have it last 2 turns either. That makes SP management much worse. You'd basically need to swap her out after turn 4 for two turns. After turn 7 it should be fine to keep her in, as 8 doesn't have aoe, but 9 once again has. 10 you can once again be in.So basically she'd be in in turn 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14. Mathematically this works and it looks like you even have one free turn she doesn't need to be in, if I didn't math wrong. No matter what though, messy. The good thing is, the moment it works once, you get an acc for damage reduction. And requiring a full set of 50% cut accs from tier 2 before tackling tier 3 is needed this time as well. Against the old orb bosses, you could make do with 3..
I enjoy seeing Tama stand in front of vending machines
>>1137063I think pretty much everyone enjoys Tama standing in front of vending machines. Her joy of finding a vending machine in that 3d base was something else.Where I live we barely have any. Usually only at train stations..
>>1129086Looking at this again, I bet Adel's gonna get her SS2 very soon. That'd be nice.
>>1137387That one is one of those SS that could redefine the game or be completely useless. She has one of the most absurd self buffs.
>>1137429There's always the legendary "Wakki alt-tier" option.
>>1137429They've been consistent in not giving elemental damage ults to characters with the strong +hit buffs.
>>1137434Until YunYun. Sure that one is weaker, but... it is kinda the next step.
I heard this game is pretty good but i'm not really into yuri, should i still give it a try?
>>1137639Absolutely. It would be an incredible exaggeration to call this a yuri game. There is barely a scratch of romance in the game, and you could easily brush it off as a joke (which the writing mostly does too).The main story is about friendship, adversity, and discovering more about the world and situation they find themselves in. With lots of SOL mixed in (as with most Key works).
>>1137641That sound pretty nice.I'll give it a try, thanks.
>>1137641I wouldn't say it's focused on yuri but you'd be calling Maeda an exaggerator with that statement. I don't think there's any way around girls literally telling each other "I love you" and "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" being yuri, it just isn't center stage and you don't lose much by choosing not to focus on it if yuri isn't your thing.
>>1137646I think what I'd say is at best is that it is a game that has some yuri in it, but it's not a yuri game. If you came into the game wanting to see romantic yuri relationships, you'd be disappointed. There's much better stories for that. It's just something you enjoy (or ignore) alongside the story.I like romantic stories, but outside of Kura's feelings towards Monaka there isn't a lot that I would actually classify as romance.
>>1137646It's literal maintext yuri, but the overwhelming majority is restricted to some of the main story chapters and their related monthly events. Given the glacial pace of main story releases, you could easily say the yuri has stopped being a focus.>>1137651Yeah, once I've sparked the HiguKoju2 rerun banner I'll probably be putting the game on hold for this reason. Maeda writing yuri is what I got into the game for and Requiem and 1186 firmly delivered on that front, but that's it. We've only been drip fed the rest of it in tiny chunks that are basically on a par with the rest of the comedy.
I dunno if the rhythm game mode is just bad on pc, or I'm just bad, but I never hit the right buttons, as it's visually hard to see on which lines these notes come on. I feel on pc at least color coding would really help here.It might however also just be my old music issue that I have with a lot of rhythm games. I can play an instrument, and the arbitrary placement of inputs tend to throw me really off, as the music clashes with that.Anyways, for the first time I saw 8 digit damage today (25m). Feeler is definitely easier than Red Crimson. No turn limit, no "can't damage me or get OD" turns. Chill battle.
>>1137771Feeler is definitely my favorite boss fight now for that reason.
How are you dealing 10 million+ damage? I've only ever been able to do Slug at 1.5 mil
>>1138034I use the second team on the weekend boss exclusively to apply buffs and debuffs during OD3. For this latest one it was Miya's fragile x2, Hisame's light def down, X-mas Wakki's light attack buff x2, Higuchi's def down from her ultimate and then two dopings, Mion's charge from her ultimate and then Yuina-senpai hits the boss really hard. This week light attacks even got free crits, so no need for a crit boost.
>>1137639>>1137641It's not a yuri *romance*, but "girl friendship", "girls overcoming adversity together", and "girls discovering more about the world and situation they find themselves in" still falls squarely into the yuri category.And they still haven't even started the true hardcore Ruka x Yuki yuri endgame that's foreshadowed by the unique seraphs and the reflection in the key visual.
>>1138034Quite simple.Debuffs: Regular defense down, elemental defense down, fragile.Buffs: Higumin, Yunyun, elemental attack buff, charge, mind's eye.Add high destruction and the respective field to that and you got your big damage numbers.
>>1138077>>1138227What limit break was your main dps at?
Broke 100 million!>>1138239For another comparison, here is my team.Yuina: LB2 (Attacker)Miya: LB0 (Light field, fragile)Hisame: LB1 (Light defense down)YunYun: LB0 (Defense down, +Hit buff)Higumin: LB1 (+Crit damage)Minori: LB0 (Mind eye buff)
>>1138266Sasuga
So with the AB event finally ending this week, it's finally time for another event and new banner. My guess is 31D since they are still missing the most. They have to give something to Fubuki already, right?
>>1138531The datamined expressions in the last update point firmly towards 31E and specifically Muua. Unless there's new stuff from previous patches that hasn't been used yet, that's still my prediction.Fubuki having absolutely nothing is seriously sad though. 31D were hamstrung so hard by Misarin's event being terrible.
>>1138549Oh I forgot about that. So then it'd be Yotsuha and Muua? Well hopefully the event does focus on Muua then. I don't like Yotsuha at all.
>>1138549I'm not saying it's not happening, but don't they usually prepare these expressions for stuff that will happen in a month or two, not for something happening in a week?
I just hope they reveal the new styles before the anniversary Ruka and Izumi gacha ends. They're probably the best electric styles for awhile, but they might also make Yotsuha another broken buffer
>>1139382Well, it's like 99% guaranteed that they will reveal the new styles on stream this Thursday. I don't know if it will get datamined before the stream or not, sometimes they just randomly pre-update it early.
>>1139466Last time they pushed the update just as the stream was ending. They'll probably do that from here on out.
I think both the anniversary gacha and Angel Beats gacha should still be live when the new styles are announced, but the anniversary gacha quartz sale + tickets might end before then
>>1137659I'm honestly surprised Maeda wrote the story he did for the AB collab. Considering how HBR is more yuri than anything else.
>>1139810I think it's because he finished writing Irie's story before HBR was a thing.
>>1139810>>1139968Yeah, there's no way this is anything other than a 2nd Beat story rehashed for the game. It's the first event so far that I've dropped and had to come back to later.
Wow, I remember when orb bosses came out I got mauled trying Lv 1, but with the level boost and HiguYun I'm bringing Lv3 from full DP to KO in a single ult. Sasuga meta
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1633392114481483778New event.
>>1140759Expressions really are such an easy way to guess who the next event is going to be about.
>>1140759I don't know how they're going to give such a hedonistic degenerate a touching backstory
If it's two remaining 31E SS gacha + Ichiko event S, then I'm hibernating until April.
>>1140771I'd be shocked if it was anything but that since Ichiko is the only 31E member without an S style. Best thing to do is to keep an eye on the calendar for rerun banners.
Characters with no SS: Fubuki, Akari, Aina, Yotsuha (likely soon), Muua (soon), Vritika, CharlottaCharacters with no S: Ichigo, Fubuki, Ichiko (likely soon), Chiroru, MariaHow do we fix 31D?
>>1140781We 31Delete them. What a weird squad of extras.
>>1140781>How do we fix 31D?They will just get an event and then a non event "filler" banner later at some point like 31E got a few months ago.If 31X are actually relevant for 4.2 and it wasn't a random scene, then they will probably get one style with the story gacha and one style with the later story-related event.
>>1140787>like 31E got a few months ago.Oh and 31X too, I forgot that YunYun + Maria was a completely random banner.
>Do one ten roll>It's another base sumomo dupe right after the sumomo dupe from free SSAmazing, 31B is my least favorite squad and I somehow got the permabenched Koju, Byakko and Sumomo to lb2.
>>1140795The SS bloat is slowly becoming real. I'm in the opposite camp and only want 31Bs, but I keep getting SSes that will never leave the bench yet which would be really good for others, like Maria.
>>1140787Also, I wonder which 31A member they are going to pick for the 4.2 gacha. A lot of users expect it to be Megumi for obvious reasons, but WFS never actually cared about that. Chapter 3 gacha was Megumi, chapter 4.1 gacha was Yuki, they only care about their own SS schedule, if they want Megumi to be this year swimsuit or yukata or something else, they are going proceed with it without thinking twice.
>>1140759who
>>1140927Exactly.
>>1140927KIMOCHIIIIIIIIIIII
Are they going to write an event where she meets a bunch of girls from the other squads who can interact with her masochistic tendencies in more entertaining ways than Ruka does, or is it going to be about muh sisters again?
>leaksOh fucking hell, this looks like a good one to roll on.
Yeah I had a feeling they were going to give Mind Eye to more styles. Muua is probably the best healer in the game now. Kinda crazy how there's still no HP+50% for fire styles though
I saw scarlet up and couldnt resist the urge to roll...ended up with Nocturne...
>>1141111They should write one where you stop posting.
>>1141584What is this passive-aggressive retard reply? If you don't like something, talk like a normal human being, so people can understand what you're mad about.
This "she's better than Higuchi, but for fire only" feels like such a desperate(but interesting) meta backpedal moment. They realized that if they continue with the current buffer trajectory, every element will have the exact save team changing only the attacker, so we're going back. Now every element will get a designated crit buffer, then they will probably start making elemental YunYuns too.>>1141517>Yeah I had a feeling they were going to give Mind Eye to more styles.I find it funny how one sister just functionally replaced the other instead of rounding up the comp somehow.
>>1141655Yeah it's kinda egregious how Yotsuha and Muua pretty much replaces Ichiko and Minori. I'm fine with Muua, but Yotsuha and the trend of elemental Higuchis will presumably outright replace the original elemental buffers and I guess Higuchi once they're all here. Can't say I'm a fan of that powercreep
>>1141655They've never been particularly good at balance, but now it's like they're in full headless chicken mode. It's more boring than anything.
>>1141660>and I guess Higuchi once they're all hereWhat will actually be stronger for the thunder comp, Higuchi who can put a thunder field and use her generic crit buff, or a thunder crit buffer?
I thought they were going to balance the 打 weapon type in some creative way, but now every weapon type just gives 3 hits of overdrive on their normal attack. They're really not trying at all with the battle system. I do wonder how they're going to approach the remaining 4 SS debuffers. If I had to guess, they'll just make them the remaining elemental Higuchis for the heck of it. Or maybe they'll be replacing the initial fielders. I can definitely see them getting something like elemental field + vulnerable for their ult>>1141684It depends if you need a blaster/ another healer I guess. The locked slots are Kayamori,Yunyun,Muua, and Kozue. For the last two slots it'll be Higuchi + Higuchi replacement for faster clearsHiguchi + blaster for bigger damageHiguchi + healer for survivability Funnily enough Higuchi probably won't be replaced in thunder
>>1141695What did they do with Ruka's autoattacks? 1.5 per swing?
>>1141677>but now it's like they're in full headless chicken mode.It doesn't seem so to me for this specific change. I don't know if this was the correct way, but they had to do something about it. Currently, it doesn't matter what element you use, Higuchi and YunYun are just the best buffers to put in. You have them, you have your attacker, then you maybe need a healer/defender, maybe a blaster, maybe a debuffer, maybe a mind eye, and only then you see if you actually have any slots left for the elemental buffer/field. Maybe you're lucky and you have something like Miya who can do both, maybe not. That's just silly, it had to be changed somehow.But then again, we don't really need to use these new crit buffers, do we? I think Higuchi will still be "great enough" to clear any content in the game. Yes, your big number in the score attack won't be the biggest one anymore, but other than that it's probably just whatever, just play her anyway.
>new styles don't have 3 passives againWe live in a society.
So, if Higuchi is generic and Yotsuha is fire, so these are 2 different effects, how are they going to stack exactly if you use both?
>>1141655>This "she's better than Higuchi, but for fire only" feels like such a desperate(but interesting) meta backpedal moment.Doesn't feel like backpedalling at all to me, just like planned powercreep. Buffers started out as generic as possible (team wide non elemental buffs) and then became more specific (team wide elemental buffs -> targeted non elemental buffs -> targeted elemental buffs). There was no way they'd let the whales get away with using the same two buffers on every team for any significant amount of time.Higuchi and Yunyun are still good for f2ps because right now there's zero content that isn't trivialized by those two alone.
>>1141695>I thought they were going to balance the 打 weapon type in some creative way, but now every weapon type just gives 3 hits of overdrive on their normal attack. They're really not trying at all with the battle system.I'm honestly glad they're doing something at all instead of just not touching it. Buff the fucking stuns too while you're at it.
Xmas Waki is already made irrelevant by Kanade. Once Light Higuchi gets released, she'll be less than irrelevant...
>>1141729That entire line of buffers "Wakki > Tama > Seira" is kind of silly now. Imagine if Tsukasa alt powercreeps Tama, that would be dumb as fuck.
>>1141729To be fair, all of these elemental buffs are irrelevant, unless they are fire or ice. It's not like Shiki or Tama are that much better. A buffer's primary job is buffing, and not attacking. Attacking makes the buff weaker, which you never want.Anyways, we get another really good healer. Same power level as Yanagi, if not a bit better because frankly the downside of a party heal making you skip a turn is not really existing for a healer, and her buff has probably more impact. Only problem is the weird rearguard thing. This means all your supports that usually don't need to be much in the front have to come out, which, depending on the content, can be ass. On the flipside this synergizes with defenders which are basically not used? Might've been the idea, to synergize with their onee chan.Both are good styles I guess, but personally I'm not interested. I have none of the sisters, and this looks like it's not interesting unless you do. Also I think single target hyper buffs for as little cost as possible is better in HBR, due to the hyper carry meta. Buffing multiple chars hardly matters. When the single target super mind eye buffer comes, I'll be interested.Also I happen to have 3 ss healer. (4 if I count both Tama styles, though I can't use them in the same battle) I'm good.
>>1141741>Only problem is the weird rearguard thing.Isn't it just for convenience? So the attacker doesn't steal the slot from any buffers, debuffers, blasters etc. doing their thing setting up the strike.
In the end all of the Oshima sisters are setting up for the theoretical attacker they don't have.
>>1141746A lot of good units are good because they buff themselves though, and often your offensive chars are higher limit break, and as such have an easier time living. Also they want to be in the front as they need more SP.Take Kanade. To attack she needs a whopping 25 sp minimum. Supports often need less to do their job. I'd not call it convenience, just different. There are definitely cases where you'd be happy about it, just as much as cases where you really wouldn't be. Especially also because you can't use the buff immediately.
https://gamebiz.jp/news/365569Playerbase dynamic after the anni/collabTeens: x2.2 times increasePeople in their 20s: x2In their 30s: x1.4
>>1141774I must be the only 60 yo who is playing this
>>1141776Look closely at February 12th. Your friend also played.
>>1141774This chart is making me feel really old.
8 new music files and the usual new images now in the mega: SB0088_C, SB0128, SB0129, SB0130, SB0131, SB0134, SI0077, SV0077
>>1141774This will most likely fuck over the chapter clearance rates. Even if there was an increase in 3/4.1 clear rate, the next graph is probably going to look even worse than the previous one.
>>1141809Even more when some percent of the new people also make their own alts for the free quartz.
>10 minutes to repeat things that were announced like 3 times already>a segment abort the year old event
The event concept looks interesting, but it depends on the actual mechanics implementation. Could be really fun, could be fuck this shit-tier.
What's with these comedic animations, these aren't non-canon alts, it's their actual story styles.
>>1141846On the other hand, they already did stuff like the Niina style, I'm probably being too autistic about it.
sob
>>114184631E is a comedic meme squad, so it fits.
>>1141850I understand, but what is this animation of her running even supposed to represent in battle.
>>1141851She shot the enemy, drew their aggro, and is now running away!
>>1141851Running to the nearest vending machine to buy refreshments for everyone.
This banner is interesting, it's objectively very good, yet I have zero desire to roll.Yotsuha is strong, but I don't feel like replacing Higuchi I already have for 1 specific comp is that valuable. If it was a character I really liked, it would be different, but for now it feels like wasting my resources on something I don't need.Mind Eye is also very strong and useful, but it's not completely broken like YunYun buff to be a must roll style. I already have multiple healers I like and use to go for another one, I can probably get it from some character in the future.
>>1141889If you already have a strong/cohesive comp, you shouldn't need to roll on anything. I doubt even with powercreep that they'll balance new chapters such that Higuchi/YunYun won't be good enough.So you can save for your favorites or whatever other criteria you want.
>>1141891I'd assume the same. Given the nature of the game, issues won't arise from dealing damage but rather from living. I can see them having a "hard mode" for chapter 4.2.
>>1141913Chie's stonks are only going up!
>>1141695>to approach the remaining 4 SS debuffers.I still have no idea why they left so many debuffers for last. Remaining 4 + guaranteed Megumi SS3 soon + Miya SS2 is probably not too far away. They had the opportunity to release one now, but they went for 31E instead.
>>1141776Sasuga jiichan
Dungeon stacking. Only 2 for 1 but that's still better than nothing.
>>1142179I mean they're just stacking the items. I don't see why they can't let you use up to 5 life and tickets like prism battles
>>1142197Probably because max life is 5 and you can only pay up to 2 runs at once.
>>1142204They should absolutely let us use 5 dungeon tickets at once though. I understand 5 life doesn't work.
>>1142212To be honest, the 2 cost is so annoying with 5 life max. I'm not logging in twice per day anymore, so I always end up needing to do 1 prism if I do dungeons, if I actually want to spend my 5 life. Shouldn't complain too much though. I was there for the times without any stacking whatsoever and needing a whole lot of turns.
Were there any new expressions in the update? Don't know if I should keep rolling or save for 31X.
which events weren't written by maeda
New SA boss hits really hard and has quite a lot of DP. First time in a long while that 180k hasn't been possible for me straight away.
>>1142375Just the same as the last update for some reason.
>>1142539Don't new expressions usually appear in in-between updates? We should get the next batch around the 25th then.
>>1142502Do you use double healer? I always do when I go at higher than 91 attempts, just because it's more comfy and dealing damage isn't exactly an issue, like ever. We also got the godly event S, who is really good as a secondary healer now. 40% damage cut + party heal. Unless the border starts to be a problem, S styles can be quite useful.I'll check it out once I'm done with the event. My fire is pretty weak (having not a single SS of the sisters kinda does that), but it's not super awful either.
Is this the first gaijin filtering event? The shop minigame is actually pretty fun, but boy do I hate spending 20+ minutes collecting materials
>>1142550Zero healer (Aoi). Unfortunately at anything higher than 96, Seika1's regular doping, no matter the attack, leads to an instant break even with full LB1s (Seika1 at LB2 takes 4600), and at 97+25 Sumomo can't quite do enough damage to DP break with regular enhances as opposed to doping. Ended up having to do 98+25 with Seika, Sumomo and Aoi all breaking and it was narrowly enough with double doping.Unfortunately my fire is also significantly weaker (LB1 Yuki2, LB1 Ichiko, LB0 Yuri+KareTsuka+Yanagi with no other options besides maybe dropping Yurippe for Megumi1) and this SA has the double whammy of ice+thunder resist this week and nonelem resist next week, so with this boss's one and only stall turn being turn 10 with the DP up I had to spend more time figuring out the right window to do my usual setup.
Looking at people actually running her in the wild, Yotsuha feels like a convenience sidegrade/minmax toy rather than a gamechanger of any kind. Now I'm more interested to see how they're going to handle future YunYun-like units.
>>1142578Makes sense, since we are at the point where we have more buffs/debuffs than you can fit in a team.And taking Ichiko out of your team is both good and bad. Having the extra defense is definitely useful if you are doing the harder bosses (120 SA, hard mode).
>>1142585Waiting for the 12 char combat, where you have the boss in the center, and 3+3 chars at both sides. Buffs and heals only affect one side, but the other side can take advantage of debuffs on the boss as well.
>サイキッカーはふたりもいらん
31E events are 2 for 2 so far among my top favorites. I actually even liked the shop mechanics. My one big criticism there is that they probably should have told us what your current level of popularity lets you sell before committing to it. But I apparently can't get enough of these poorfags. Not only did every sister feel like she made a significant contribution to the story, but they expanded on their characters and referenced so many other events that the whole base felt like it actually progressed since the beginning and that this event didn't happen in a vacuum. Of course it also gets bonus points for the Ruka x Yuki and Tsukasa x Karen nods.
Pretty annoying 120/35 this time around. Had to double healer to keep myself alive since the boss was hitting me for 5.5k-6k DP damage on single target with the buff.
rate the new event
>>1142972One of the better ones, up there with U140.
>>1142948They really are pushing up the power of these bosses to get you to buy the powercreep units. Kinda annoying. Not only does this stupid thing have really high DP but it hits really hard too AND has low max DR.
>>1142972I fucking hate the dungeon farming, absolute trash
This guy is probably half of this game's revenue.
>>1143020FTP actually, I'm just lucky
was it rape?
>>1143004>Not only does this stupid thing have really high DPThey're trying to make people to use breakers somehow.
>>1143121You mean those units that fucking suck because the difficulty of the enemies quickly eclipsed the potential of current units? Yeah I guess making the enemies harder would fix that.
>>1143124I mean how else are you gonna raise the value of breakers?
>>1142972Both of their events are well written, but I'm still not into most of their team members, so it's okay, I guess?I'm also starting to feel that 31E will get fucked the most by the plot, they get too much of their worldbuilding in the events.
How much bank did you make? I wonder what items you would need to sell to make 600k. Obviously you would want to do all the research items, but is it even worth it to sell onigiri on the last week just for Maki when they're so cheap?
>>1143121Give me Hisame SS2 and I will.
>>1143216Sorry, she's busy supporting both light AND dark teams.I wonder if we ever get a hybrid like this again.
Ending of the AB collab. I don't know why we couldn't get this in game, but it is what it is.https://twitter.com/Yuugen_99/status/1634410733340594177https://twitter.com/Yuugen_99/status/1634410804413079552https://twitter.com/Yuugen_99/status/1634410981991518208https://twitter.com/Yuugen_99/status/1634411449887113217
>>1143227>Sorry, she's busy supporting both light AND dark teams.They are probably going to replace her later. If they're willing to completely powercreep elemental buffers like they did with Yotsuha, Hisame sitting on two important debuffs is even more shaky.>I wonder if we ever get a hybrid like this again.In the previous thread there was a prediction that they would release a fire and ice unit for the fire and ice story chapter, but I don't know.
>>1143153560k. I just made as many of the high value items as I could. There was one item that still had a downward arrow despite being in the highest popularity level, so I don't know if increasing it further would have made it sell better.
>>1143229Wow, that only would've been a pretty great ending if they actually put it in.
>>1143487I assume wfs were like >Maeda bro, we don't know if there will be a 2nd collab or not, and how it's going to connect with the first one, so don't disappear them yet please
>Fragile is being treated like a completely normal utility effect>Mind Eye is being hyped like an insane ability, a gift from the godWhy? Am I not getting something?
>>1142502The most annoying thing is it keeps using the attack that reduces your overdrive gauge. Ordinarily I would be able to overdrive around turn 6, but because of the constant overdrive reduction it took until turn 10 or so.I should probably get my third copy of the drive gain orb skill to prevent that from happening in future.
>>1143512>FragileA debuff which only lasts for 1 turn, so needs proper timing. You can usually only stack it during overdrive, which may or may not be hard to get depending on the boss Has a wider distribution with 2 good styles getting it (Kozue - gets misfortune and lightning defense down, Megumi - gets defense down), 1 great style getting it (Maki - doubles as a blaster), and 1 specialized style getting it (Miya - also has light field) >Mind's EyeA buff that doesn't trigger from regular attacks, so can be stacked freely Has limited distribution. Minori was only good for fire teams and if you used her for any other comp, you would be taking up someone else's slot. Meanwhile fragile users could play other roles (def down, field). And of course tenshi could only be used in light teams The reason why Muua is so great is that she's the first ever MindEye style that is both universal and can serve another role (healer). She's almost on the level of Yunyun
>>1143538Isn't Fragile itself a bit on the rare side? I haven't kept track of who has it because normally I ignore the boss weakness, but I still don't have any SSes with it.
>>11435415 characters have it. It was only on Miya and Megumi for a while, but since then some more characters have gotten it.
>>1143498Probably want to get Sekine in and add more girls. Would prefer Shiina, but it will probably be Yui and Iwasawa.
>all this for a measly 150k GPMari makes more in a single sale. Step up your game or you'll never make it in the real world Ooshimaya
>>1143541Not anymore, no, but fragile was actually more rare back then than mind eye is now. It took them around 8 months to get more than 2 fragile users out, mind eye already got 3 different characters using it in 4 months and they obviously aren't going to stop there either.
>>1143564I think we'll see more fragiles than mindeyes given that there's 4 debuffers on the way. The only style I can see getting mindeye in the next month or so is Akari. Of the 4 debuffers, I can see them giving fragile and elemental fields to Fubuki, Sharo, and Vritica to mimic Miya. Meanwhile Aina could go either way. She could just get something boring like rousing spirit, or maybe revive to finally give Tama competition, or maybe a new effect like DP guts. After that, we'll finally be in the wild west where every style onwards is an alt
So, finally done with the event. 665k at the end, netting a skill guide and a bunch of things I can't carry. I made a billion food at the end, and the madwomen at this base bought almost all of it. Holy crap.I'd rank this event last. Not because of the story, though this part isn't too strong either. It does nothing for quite a while to the point you wonder if there's even something, and what is happening is pretty meh as well. I also still dislike that they do these stories about the past after 4.1. I pray they stop with 4.2 releasing. I REALLY fucking hope so. I really can't care. I'd rather have something like the last event on the island story-wise, where that at least doesn't have any impact.What killed this for me were the dungeons. Not only are they boring for a lot of players, no, you also basically have to manual if you want to be efficient. Not even life refreshes allowed. What a royal waste of time. The entire event felt like it had more "gameplay" than anything else because of this.The shop part was actually fine and enjoyable enough. But holy crap the dungeons. I really didn't need to go in there 4 damn times. A skill guide made this kinda worth..? I dunno.
>>1143582>I also still dislike that they do these stories about the past after 4.1.Why? There's nothing wrong with exploring the other characters' storylines, and they rarely require the main story to be developed. I don't see why everything has to be story relevant to be enjoyable.
>>1143582>I also still dislike that they do these stories about the past after 4.1. I pray they stop with 4.2 releasing. I REALLY fucking hope so. I really can't care. I'd rather have something like the last event on the island story-wise, where that at least doesn't have any impact.That's the problem and the trap they put themselves into, you kinda can't do that right now. Events are the monthly content, you can't limit this monthly content to only like 15% of the playerbase, especially when they just started 2 new servers. They even had to invent a prelude "fragment" format and do 2 events in a month to dance around it for that Iroha thing. At some point they will have to say "fucking enough" and progress to the new status quo fucking over anyone who isn't ready in the process. But not after 4.2, the playerbase isn't ready for that yet.>>1143579>given that there's 4 debuffersThat doesn't say much to be honest. After light buffer(attacker) Wakki and thunder buffer(healer) Tama, I'm sure they can just give anything to anyone.
I wonder if these new mini games(cooking/shop) are a consequence of the 4.2 development cycle. Megumi probably won't have any cancer fights in her parts of the story, so they probably came up with some minigame to compensate for that. And then they were like "What if we did something like that in the normal events too?"
>>1143582This but with the Koju event
>>1143595A Yakuza-style set of mini games for Megumi's life in the dome would be very strange but also hilarious.
>>1143582>I also still dislike that they do these stories about the past after 4.1. I pray they stop with 4.2 releasing. I REALLY fucking hope so. I really can't care. I'd rather have something like the last event on the island story-wise, where that at least doesn't have any impact.I think I would've dropped the game ages ago if I'd stopped caring like you have. Less touched-upon squads having their dynamics explored further is the perfect way to tide things over until 4.2, and events like this are a rare silver lining in the otherwise terrible 9 month wait that we're still in the middle of. 31F and now 31E have greatly benefited from being put in the spotlight, because it creates a solid baseline for those post-4.1 stories you want more of to build upon.Plus, Maeda's just straight-up good at this and 31E does not yet suffer from 31A's (and 31B's to a lesser extent) issue of having been the focus of far too many pre-chapter 3/4.1 events. Considering the alternative (Iroha's event, which isn't even hers really), I'll gladly take this instead. Now I just want 31D and 31X to get the same treatment and then he can do whatever he wants. Preferably more in-your-face yuri for a change.
>Yukki's comment after getting her the lip balmThey should just fuck already. Also Megumi remains the funniest retard. My only gripe with the fetch quests was they didn't make a little step stool model for Tama to stand on after you get her one, I would've lost it.
>>1142972I don't know. I'm sure Oshima fans would love this event, but I'm kinda indifferent with the Oshimas. They're easily the most straightforward? characters and it feels like all their stories revolve around the family rather than themselves. It definitely is a welcome dynamic, but there should be a balance too.>storyvery straightforward very oshima. I like how they remembered Mari, but the whole shop thing really came out of nowhere, especially for someone like Muua. In that regard it feels like the Mari event all over again where they give this simple character a comically dramatic history. I wonder if there will be more characters tied to this underground society thing though. Maybe Ichigo, Sumomo, and Inori could be related too? The research dialogs were nice. My favorite being Hisame and Inori, which means this event takes place after the Inori event.>gameplaySelling and research was fun. Dungeons are not fun. Simple as
>>1143755Seems like I missed out by fast forwarding through all the “waiting for customers” segments
>>1143583Because of spoiler reasons. It's not their past, and it's questionable if any of it happened to begin with.>>1143614I've been with HBR for quite some time and told myself I'm gonna see where it goes. It has a massive amount of issues, also with its gameplay, but it also has a lot of really positive things. Even the gameplay is slowly changing for the better. There's also Aoi's story which is solely based around her as a seraph, so even retrospectively it's good, and that includes the summer event, the Iroha interlude, and some events don't go too deep into stuff like that, so it's also okay. Sure, it's random as fuck to get that mermaid on this island, but at the same time it's also rather interesting. This one is one of the very little truths we can actually believe about the world we see. Only things our main characters experienced together with us, and what the senpai know from their time as seraph are likely true. But all the memories from before that are a big question mark. This mermaid isn't subject to this.Even if they can't lock everything behind 4.1, I feel like they can do more implications like this. Gives food for thought, which in itself is a healthy thing. Though again, while I just felt the story to be meh and I'd like things to go a little different, the dungeons killed it for me hard. Fucked the pacing really badly as well.
>>1143873I mean, if you go there, then it's questionable whether many of these non-story related events are even canon for the main story or if it's something that happened in the other worlds/timelines. The main story chapters actually don't have any long enough empty windows for all of this shit to happen.
I rerolled during the last week of the AB! event, my only goal was Yunyun + Aoi which I actually managed to get, after that 20 rolls on the AB banner got me Kanade and another 20 on the Muua/Yotsuha banner for A-san.I'll still get Yurippe and another free SS from tickets so this account is looking surprisingly decent now.
Is it worth spending tokens to lb achan?
>>1144061she's definitely the best dps early game, but without an element she loses out on - fragile, mindeye, elemental defense down, elemental attack up, weakness bonus, etc. That along with some later dungeon bosses resisting neutral damage makes typeless attackers a risky investment. Maxing out her welfare also gives you a level 120 cap already. Honestly the only dps I would consider investing in are overtuned ones like tenshi or suit ruka. I personally wouldn't invest LBs into dps at all (not more than 1 at least or unless their lb 3 passive is really good) since it's the buffs and debuffs that really scale their damage. The best styles to invest in imo are ones that you want sitting around to soak up damage, but also do something good with their passive. So healers like Tama, Muua, or Yanagi that give DP recovery every turn. I guess you could LB dps styles if you don't have any good buffers, but if you want to boost their damage without lb, I would just shuttle run to max out their skill level instead
>>1143873Yeah I've played 4.1, don't worry. But that doesn't automatically make me disinterested in their entire lives. In fact I play these story events and start to wonder how they ended up dying in the end. Simply because the characters we see aren't the metaphysical characters that they are doesn't mean that I can't relate to an emotional story involving them, in fact I think it's incredibly autistic to take the developments of 4.1 and think that automatically makes every story about those characters pasts completely uninteresting especially considering the entire emotional crux of that chapter requires you relate to both them as an identity and them as who they are right now.
I didn't think it was possible to cap out on GP, damn.
>>1144124Whoa whats the cap?
>>1144074That is not a negative. For 18 SP and 3 turns in the front, setting up 2 of them (good to combine with Higuchi's buffs), she has an ice attack with 3100 ish base power. That is more than enough to deal major amount of damage. And in general some of the absolute highest power any blaster has.It only doesn't work with yunyun, but in a way that is kinda a plus as well, opening up other things.The only reason to not give her a limit break is, that her style itself is whatever, and the moment an alt gets released, her current style becomes obsolete if you get the new one.It's really hard justifying giving an LB to a first SS style, given the current system. Any alt with a good ultimate you like isn't going to run into this problem, until they change how generalize works. But if they'd ever do that we don't know. I actually hate that this even exists. They really feared that people don't want alts back then. It completely robs the identity of vanilla SS styles outside of their lb3 boost, but that is entirely irrelevant for the vast majority of players.
>>1144499100 million.
this might've obvious from the get go since Yotsuha is the fourth child of the 6 siblings but still have the body of a child. Unless it's just that kind of trope, I think it's save to assume that Yotsuha died the youngest compared to the other siblings.
>>1144537Mua and Isuzu casually calling Yotsuha as their Nee-san is pretty funny and sad. I doubt they even realize it themselves nor remember how she died since being a Naby pretty much distorts their reality to fit the environment.
>>1144537explains why at the end, there was abit of a small reveal that Yotsuha's potato flavor croquette turns out to be resembling the flavor of Ichiko's recipe the most. Since you know.. her memory is the most fresh regarding their childhood. Maeda is planting seeds already.
Oshimaya huh.. I was always wondering why the Ooshimas are chosen to be in the Seraph. The new event shed just a bit of light regarding as to why the military chose them. Interesting that they'll drop that info on the event.To my surprise, this event have more substance compared to the usual events that felt 'slightly' like filler for sure. Felt like this is phase 2 in terms of the importance of these side story to the overall main one.
>>1144549Maeda is setting up for the human society factions for some time already. >military clearly trying to hide shit from "someone" in the tower>some non-affiliated entities conducting cancer research>psychic organization who were assembling forces to protect Earth, yet we never heard anything about them in the presentand now this. I guess you can't just throw some bigger cancer at your characters every single chapter and call it a day, the setting will grow wider.
>>1144557I mean yeah I know that already.I'm talking about the quality of this event in terms of how it matters to the overall story is more 'noticeable' compared to the others,The fact that they finally gave away a piece of vital connection regarding the Ooshima sisters and as to why the military 'recruited' them is the proof of that.
>>1144549Ooshimaya (a black market for smuggled overseas weapons) >did they fueled the start of World War 3? >does the assassin sisters got their weapons from them or possibly from the Satsuki family?>does the mob (Aoi-.. I mean Jasmine's family) have gotten their weapons from them?>Which 31X members do you think have some connections to the Ooshimaya? That seems to be rooted way back their great grandfathers.
200% week is here. Who are you gonna spend it on?
>>1144613Spent it on Kanade already. Dunno if I immediately spend the next 100%. No rush.
>>1144549Whoever suggested that they're getting substantive events because their story's probably not going to be touched on in the main story makes the most sense to me. The only other substantive events have been epilogues to story chapters
>>1144613Lb1 Maria but I'm gonna wait until end of next week.>Needs a lot of turns on the front row to build tokens> SP hungry>Improvement to 1 turn nukes>Based on 4.2 title there might be a fire/ice boss>I still don't have a single ss2 so i might as well give it to somebody who's gonna get hers later.
>>1144669I don't see myself ever investing in any token based attackers after they started releasing these 50% HP + buff/debuff monsters, unless it's my most favorite character ever.
It would be interesting if there were abilities to let other units farm tokens for you. Like you tag a debuffer and she farms your tokens while putting her debuffs out.
>>1144613I'm thinking of using just 100% to get Blaster Yuina to LB2. I've been hoping to use it on Higuchi, but I only have her regular SS.
>>1144613I'm waiting for Sharo's SS on the 23rd
>>1143831It's not in that segment but in the overworld, when you walk past her after giving her the lip balm her line changes from the one about microfiber cloth to "Ruka has been staring at my lips a lot lately..."
>>1143873It's incredibly autistic to be paranoid about the possibility that one day they'll go "Hey you know that one backstory told in that one story event? Sorry, it was a fake memory implanted by the military hahaha".Backstories are assumed to be true because that's how narrative and storytelling works.
>>1144846While he's autistic in this specific case, I wouldn't be surprised if they will later do a DUN DUN DUUUN reveal that Karen-chan "forgot" a bunch of shady government missions she was used for or that Megumi got years of her psychic training erased so she won't do any funky shit. Tama who was directly in the military is potentially a black box of hidden bullshit.
Shame I can't slot Maki for my current setup, I would be doing 800k or so. Double healer or I eat shit.
>>1144846It's neither autistic nor paranoid. When the entire plot is about this very thing, then this question will naturally come up.Assuming anything right now is ultimately just that: Guesswork. Just like nobody can say "that will definitely be a thing", nobody can say the opposite either. That is the entire damn point and why the characters struggle."You are what you think you are" is very true, and once you realize that has been fake, that isn't actually "you", shit isn't easy to deal with. Some figured they want to keep going with what they know is real and true to them, their current lives as Seraph. Megumi couldn't. She relied on something in the past to fuel her. And while she tried to find something in the present, she failed. For now.Of course, it could be that somehow this past is actually of real people and their memories, and perhaps you can find yourself to believe in that being you, and you've just been reborn. Or perhaps that's not the case at all. Perhaps it's all just invented, because feelings are what powers Seraph, and you can't really get that by having them start at literally 0.Perhaps it's half and half. We do not know. Nobody remembering how they died is most definitely convenient as fuck and not just a coincidence. No need to remember the details, but getting closer to the point of death? Nothing? Really? Yeah, no. It's incredibly weirdly twisted, that they managed to get them to never doubt their life, until they literally got explanations due to seeing something they should've not seen as far as the military code goes.Given all of that going on, wondering why exactly one should care about the past of a character that is a seraph, I simply don't know. If we'd at least know they have to be true. But we really, unfortunately don't. If you can believe that for yourself, that's nice I suppose. What do they say: "Ignorance is bliss". That is something the characters also had to experience themselves.
Mari's interactions with Muua and the implication that they've been happening for a while now really makes me wish we could get bond and memory events from the POV of characters other than Ruka. Such a great way to breathe life into characters and create new dynamics.
>>1144934TLDRif you're going to schizopost at least make it funny
>>1144950You can tell it's from the aoifag with bad takes.
Confused HBR thread poster>why don't they celebrate valentines???Ascended HBR twitter guy>celebrates Pi day https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1635475838408720384
Capitalism, ho!
It's finally the Aoi/yukata Yuki rerun banner and now I remembered how there was a 2nd gacha S Tama in there. What was up with that? I thought they were going to keep releasing these, yet there was no follow up at all.
>>1146034There has been, just not a whole lot. Kura's event S from the Yuina event was her second one, as is Niina's event S from the current event.
>>1146048Event welfare style + gacha style is not the same as 2 gacha styles. Tama is the only character like that in the entire game.
>>1146050Tama was also the first with 3 SS gacha styles. Tama tama dayo.
>>1146062Yeah, but getting styles earlier isn't even a good thing in this game, her thunder debuff is already destined to get powercreeped by a future thunder crit unit. It wouldn't be like that if it was released a few months later instead.
>>1146066>debuffI meant buff. But it would be interesting to see if they can come up with a new debuff when there are 4-5 debuffers that will be released soon.
>>1146066Eh. Tama is currently one of the strongest elec hitters in the game. Only one competing is MC alt alt. She has gigantic wis gain, similar to her base style at 70% without LB, and basically deals damage like one or two LB higher normal offensive chars as a result. Stacking wis is also much more efficient than having to deal with two stats. Her ult has normal single target power, so nothing fancy, but much more than say Shiki has. The enhance on top of it, and she hits hard. Very hard. Yes, weird for a.. "healer", but that's just how it is. There are only 3 wis scaling ultimates in the game. I don't actually know Mom's wis gain by heart, but Miko has horrendous wis gain in comparison, and her ult is STILL really damn good, to this very day.For whales it's uninteresting perhaps, but for normal players who don't have everything at super high LB, Tama's second alt is extremely powerful for elec teams. Just do not mistake her as a simple buffer like Wakki alt or Shiki. Those are shit as fuck low base power ultimates.
Really struggling to decide if I should do a spark on the popular banner, or try my luck on Muua. Both have their advantages.
I've never had a full spark in my bank despite skipping 90% of bannersprobably because I missed about 100 days of login bonuses and daily missions...this game is painful
>not saving your spark for HBR 2ngmi
>>1144059Just got Muua at 30 rolls and I feel like I'm already set in terms of meta. Aoi + Muua are enough to never die and Yunyun + Muua buff enough to kill everything.I'll probably save the rest of my starter rolls for the Inori/Maki banner in two weeks since I figure I can now pretty much just roll for who I like.
>>1147170that's what people who had seira felt like at the start
>>1147176>at the startIt's how i still feel. I'm not rolling until she Tama and my cursed LB2 Chie fail me.
AAAARGH SHUT UP I'M NEVER TOUCHING THAT SHITTY GAMEMODE AGAIN
>hashtag pictures background is different nowAre they just fucking around?
>>1148661This is what I meant. Like, why?
>>1148657B-But you can do two runs at once now. I'm just starting in 46, bop the boss after collecting extra turn and then autorun to the room in 48 where a drop is, collect it, and peace out. I feel like these upgrades are actually pretty damn good on supports, but I can't be bothered to do more. Considering how long other dailies in gacha tend to take, doing a 10-15min dungeon per day isn't any different.The true evil is shuttle running. Even more potent than these things you can grind in that dungeon, yet taking for fucking ever.
the pacing of the story chapters (the way they justify having constant battle content) is pretty awful. Reminds me of early FGO and their fucking wyverns.
>>1149245Cute
Are the default gamepad controls for the rhythm game mode the norm for such games? I'm having a really hard time with this layout.
does anyone here actually fight the score attack over and over to get all the tickets?
who's clit did achan lick to be spared from the gaijin squad
HBR live is today. I don't think they're going to announce anything of relevance there, but I will look for it.
Flowers from Megumi's VA.
Flowers from Yuugen.
>>1149817Oh, I'm retarded.
Cancer invasion in the venue.
>>1149693No. I'm long since past the time I needed to be "efficient". I only log in once per day, too.I struggle more dealing with not capping out on tickets / life stones.
>>1149693I do. It's not the most enjoyable thing, but rewards are rewards. Using all the dungeon tickets is more tedious than that since the higher hoju floors can't be auto'd.
>>1149693I usually use one of my prism teams on auto against an easy level to get that, but yeah I do.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1d24y1u7J9/HEAVEN BURNS RED LIVE 2022. Even if you don't care about the performances, there are multiple original 31A segments on26:2054:101:11:101:27:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DjYhS4E5nEKaren's VA did a Before I Rise cover too. To be honest, you can see her being slightly butthurt about Karen having separate vocals from time to time, so I'm not surprised.
Okay, between popular and new banner I decided to go with the new banner after all. Didn't need to spark though, so big win in my book. Got Ichigo lb1, as well as Yanagi lb2 now. I think, double healer will be a thing for a decent chunk of content, this will be nice. Though Yanagi REALLY doesn't want to get replaced.
Are we getting a new banner this week or nah?
>>1151100I'd be surprised if not.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1638495746193489923>new styles & future updatesWonder if they are going to pre-upload leak it tomorrow again.
tfw most hbr fanart is AI generated
>>1152309Is it? I've got that one setting on Pixiv turned on and I hardly ever see any, and certainly none of the artists I follow have ever shared AI art. HBR just doesn't get much much in the way of art in general.
and because of that, now more people are making hbr AI art just to spite himhttps://mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erocg/1679417502/
>>1152456Very nice
I hope Chie's new style is broken with her S skill. Also kinda confirms that next month's event is 31Dhttps://i.imgur.com/HqKQ8fu.jpg
>>1152523>Also kinda confirms that next month's event is 31DIs it though? If we're getting a 31D style now, then the banner we're getting in 2 weeks doesn't have to be them, no? Like, it can still be, but the probabilty is lower now.
Styles datamine is up. Okay, this is a real skip banner if I ever seen one. At least you can finally remove Hisame from the dark party, if you want.
>>1152559I mean it just makes sense to me that they'd want to finish the final 2 members like they've been doing with the other teams. It could be 31X, but I feel like they're saving them for 4.2. It could still go either way, but 31D is looking really likely. That or they'll pull a 30G and Yuina out of nowhere because of the popularity poll.>>1152576It's sad. If Chie even had a HP+30%, she'd be really good. But at this state even Misarin contests with her. Also they really screwed Ichiko over. If she got a heal over turn then she can still be used for tanking. Guess the card art reflects her sad state
>>1152309I've never seen one at all
New Chie attack is CON scaled. Is it good? I have no idea how her stats are.>>1152602I've seen some, but there aren't much, probably like 1% at best.
It's the future assets update patch, we will probably learn about the next event squad as soon as the datamine anon does his thing. Maybe even with some micro 4.2 spoilers too.
This is kind of obscure, but how the fuck do I use game/window capture on the pc version of this game? Obviously monitor capture works, but whenever I try the other 2 the feed is just a frozen screenshot of my current window.
>>1152598>It's sad. If Chie even had a HP+30%, she'd be really good. But at this state even Misarin contests with her.Huh? You know Chie has the OP +hit buff right? And her new ult scales off 1 stat, is elemental (dark), and has high damage. She actually has the highest damage attack now, beating out Maria. And she will reach higher damage easier, thanks to CON scaling. And unlike Tama's WIS scaling, having high CON is actually useful.The only gotcha of course is that you need to spend 24 SP on the ult, but to say Misarin contests her is wrong.
>So, the last SS debuffer we released 5 months ago was fragile + status down. Now it's time to release a new one. What are we going to do with her?>Uhm... Ehm... I know! Let's give her a fragile+status down ult!Can debuffers get at least like 10% of the love they give to their buffing styles? How can one side get crit chance, crit damage, multi hit, heal+buff combo etc., and the other one just gets the same fucking abilities rehashed over and over again.
>>1152634Misato got actually pretty okay after the recent blunt normal attack OD change. OD is much easier to gain now, which plays into her hands. I have an LB1 Misato, and will likely use her when the opportunity arises.Still absolutely dogshit in dungeons, but alas.
>>1152677Misato does 12510x1.3=16263 damageChie does 13365*3.4=45441 damageFeel free to use her if you want, but they are not comparable.
>>1152680I hope they'll go back and buff some of the old SSes one day. A defender and a healer leaving actual attackers in the dust really drives home just how boring the recent powercreeping spree has become.
>>1152680You can't compare stuff like that. And you know that yourself.You need way more SP with Chie, and on top of that any LB advantage is not something she'll ever beat either. Old SS tend to have this advantage. You have dupes.
>>1152682>defender and a healer leaving actual attackers in the dust I think they made a big mistake with the class names being too generic. If "defender" was actually "paladin"(not literally, but something like it that makes sense for sci-fi) nobody would question it having attacking capabilities.
>>1152685They could've also kept going with the old trend of changing classes for different styles, like making Maria and Chie attackers, or Wakki's alt a buffer.
>>1152686They could, but they deliberately pursue class mismatches for some reason. Like Vritika with her defender seraph, provoke, attack down being a debuffer, even though debuffers are one of the most populated classes and defenders are the least populated class. Maybe her SS is going to be a defender though.
>>1152684Old styles that 12510 x 1.3 just aren't great. Not just Misarin, but Fire Ruka too. Not to say they aren't usable, but they have a lot lower firepower.Now you are right that you can't 100% compare 1:1, because you always use an attacker in a party. So the question is what party are you using for each?Chie, Fubuki, Higuchi, Shiki, Iroha, <Healer>Misato, Fubuki, YunYun, Shiki, Iroha, <Healer>Getting to use YunYun is a big benefit. From there it looks more like (100% DR, full buff/debuff)Misato: ~1.7MChie: ~2.8MVery dependent on having YunYun for Misato though. And Chie still has 65% damage over her, without including the fact that you only need to max CON as Chie.
>>1152686The defender label for Chie makes sense since they want her her selfish attacker DPS gimmick represent an aspect of her personality. This contrast only works if she's a class that normally doesn't have that capabilty, like a "friendly" healer/defender class. Same concept as Maria.
>>1152693>Misato, Fubuki, YunYun, Shiki, Iroha, <Healer>Is it even worth to use Shiki or Iroha over Higuchi?
>>1152708Assuming you already have YunYun for the doping level enhance:Higuchi adds 40% damage (1.5->2.1 crit damage)Iroha adds 50% damage (field)Shiki adds ~65% damage (2x dark enhance+charge) or ~49% damage if you use Yanagi for charge.You could still use Higuchi over Iroha for a small loss in damage but gain in convenience, I definitely would unless I couldn't break DP without the extra.
>Megumi VA guestNice.
4/20 - 4.2 reveal stream with Megumi VA(nice date btw)4/6 - 4.1 retrospective stream. They haven't teased the event, but they almost never do, so I assume there will still be something.
>>1152708Yes, use the crit damage orb.
>>1152918Don't hurt yourself Megumi
>>1152918If it's dialogue-related and not just "go there/don't go there" kind of stuff, I hope she will get her own alternative to Ruka's clown choices, like an option to scream at everyone you meet or something like that.
>>1152955And of course the option to invite lolis into the bath.
>>1152710This is just "I want the highest number", which is pointless. Convenience also doesn't matter there anymore. You are so utterly inconvenient already, may as well go all the way.The good thing about Higuchi alt, Yunyun and such is that you get very quickly to surprisingly good damage, which is enough for almost every single scenario. If it's not, then the answer is usually: Blaster. All the setup in the world is never beating a 999% blaster.
Some new expressions:Byakko: Sadness, Special1Fubuki: Serious2Ichiko: GreatFatigue, Superiority2Minori: Neutral2Niina: Neutral2Unfortunately there seems to be an issue with Mouth_03 in Ichiko's GreatFatigue. I hope the next iteration of her faces fixes it because I sure can't imagine finding the motivation to do it manually.
>>1153040>Byakko: Sadness, Special1Legendary Byakko event?
>>1152680Isn't Misato 15,512 (at rank 13 & overdrive) * 147 (max scaling) * 1.3 (HP+30%) and Chie 15,770 (rank 10) * 149 (max scaling)I mean you can count Chie's S skill too, but then you would have to factor in Yunyun for Misato
>>1153066
>>1153050See >>1152693 where I did a more thorough look. But you have to include Chie's S, otherwise she isn't even worth talking about.You can't take Misato+YunYun plain against Chie because that's 2 party members vs 1, but you can compare 2 full parties.
Warning: Fubuki's character story contains a lethal amount of cringe.
Is there an alternative to seraph day? Doesn't work for me on firefox or on chrome (mobile) for a while. I know there's the JP site where you can also get dungeon maps and stuff, but they don't have detailed numbers for attacks and such.
>>1153368seraph.day is https://hbr.quest/ now.
>>1153375Ah, that explains it. Thanks anon.
>>1152785>4/6 - 4.1 retrospective stream.I misheard, it's ch.1 and ch.2 again.https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1639190326018449409
>>1153417Wtf why.Most memorable part is the PV spoiling the end of chapter 2 for everyone before even starting the game.
>>1153418I don't know why, this will be like the 3rd or 4th time they do it. I guess the next stream after that will cover ch.3 and ch.4.1 then.
>>1152632Do you have a dual-GPU laptop?Try forcing your recording software to use the same GPU as the game.
>>1140806I would be really surprised if it's not her after the guest announcement. It's as if the stars have aligned for the opportunity to shill her new style.
>>1153425nah I'm on a desktop with only one GPU installedI figured it might even be some anti datamining measure since I can't get this shit to work but if nobody else has the issue it must be a problem with my system
>>1153576Are you using something like vntranslator or some other tool overlaid on top of the game? Me and a friend of mine both had this issue with a couple of different tools.
>>1153576>I figured it might even be some anti datamining measureIf they really cared about datamining, they would stop leaking banners before the streams almost every time.
Is having misfortune slapped on an ult being overdrive-only even a good thing? Yes, you automatically get it in a big combo, but it's one of the few debuff effects you can just casually use in battle and now you can't.
>>1153670I thought misfortune pretty much has no effect when you crit since the -50 to enemy border just overwrites it
>>1153681That's just damage. Misfortune main uses are:1. Improving debuffs for your big turn2. Lowering enemy damage#1 works with Fubuki's ult. It doesn't help at all for #2 though, that's where Kozue is great with a 4SP misfortune. It's not as good as a defender damage cut, but you can spam it.
>>1153670I think she not being elemental is the bigger issue. Fragile is good, but not having any element on your ult nowadays feels just bad.
If we're talking about new styles, I have to say that Chie's ""condition"" is dumb as fuck. "Your ult costs 7 SP if you used a multi turn 3SP ability you're permanently using anyway" isn't a fucking condition, it just means her ult costs 7SP.
Oh boy, blast from the past. Another event with triple medals. Turns out I never got the bells from the shop. Doing a quick 5 times highest difficulty one apparently completed some missions.And what do I see there. The good old challenge mission of "defeat SS version in 7 turns". Back then I could beat SS but not that fast, so it's still there. Now I do a harder fight in 3 turns. (which does not count for the mission mind you) Things truly changed.
What is this cover (注目) effect that Chie's SP-halving triggers on? Since I couldn't find a skill that applies it to enemies, I'm guessing it's a buff they give themselves?
>>1154229It's skills that make the enemy attack that character. Her new 3SP skill and original ult do that.
>>1154231Isn't that provoke 挑発?
>>1154233I'm looking here: https://www.hbr.quest/styles/chie?jp&s=in_date&desc&p=13SP: 全体挑発Ult: 敵が挑発または注目状態のとき時、「挑発中」計算。その他の時、「挑発中以外」計算Both use the same language, right?
>>1154236Yes, I'm asking because it says it triggers when the enemy is affected by 挑発 or 注目, so I thought cover was a separate effect.
>>1154263I see what you mean now. The only other effect I can think of is Aoi, which is not called either 挑発 or 注目.
>>1154229Cover is the thing Aoi has.
what's the effective parameter formula for buffs and heals? It seems like every skill with less than 10SP calculates by using (SP*8)+160, but every skill above 10SP follows their own rules
Alright 1 spark on popular banner.3 summer Tsukasa's (didn't have her yet)3 Aois (had her at lb0)2 Seiras (had her at lb0)4 Yuinas (didn't have her)I can't complain, even though this was a little clumpy and no yunyun. Now I have these awkward lb 2.5 as well, though even assuming 2 SS less, this is still very good. A bit strange that you can't use the half LB and make up the difference with the bar/gold coins.
>>1154468You got 12SS in 200 rolls?! Crazy. You can at least get YunYun from the spark.You can use the universal shards with a 2.5, you just can't use the weekly mission bar. Too confusing for their technology.
>>1154472How many SSes should you expect to get while sparking? I haven't pulled with quartz in over half a year.
>>1154780200 (rolls)*0,03(ssr rate) = 6 Plus your spark target so effectively 7.
>>1154472Now that I checked again, I should've read the fineprint. It says if you don't have enough exclusive pieces, it takes general pieces.And yes, I was lucky. I actually was pretty lucky recently in general, so I figured I do something nice for myself (birthday) and get Yunyun. I had really bad SS luck for a long time though.So now the question is.. is that worth it to lb3. I already had the very old Yukki at 2.5 the entire time because I figured it's not useful, and you don't use the style anyways. In Yuina's case, I can see myself using her for elec related stuff, but lb3? It's only 25% elec damage increase. She'd already mess up anything she's gonna be useful in (i.e. whenever the duo orb weak against elec comes). I'd assume these buffs count as a self enhance? I do have her base SS, but that was kinda heavily powercrept by Kanade. Though with Mua existing now, maybe not?Aoi does sound pretty useless, as you need to break before it does anything. Though perhaps it's better than I think.
>>1154265The skill description doesn't say it but you can check the debuff in battle, cover is Aoi's effect.
>>1154795Goodness, the one time I sparked I got 2, 3 counting the spark target.
Looking to get into HBR now (yeah yeah I know, just missed anniversary), but I'm intimidated by the gameplay walls. Do you still need to grind non-stop with SSR units to beat hard story walls?
>>1155212this game never really had grind but it was hard without the right units. They buffed the level cap and nerfed the story so it's pretty easy now. If you want to really breeze through it just reroll for seira
>>1155212Trendwise the game is getting easier with powercreep of new styles, progression content changes (you can now do 5 prisms at once for example) and various balance tweaking in favour of the players. Therefore existing content is no where near as hard as when it was released. The producers also admitted that the difficulty was too high and that it resulted in abysmal clear rates for later chapters.As for the story, the main story has been moving at a glacial pace and we are only getting the third new chapter (4.2) next month. Only then we will know what their true vision regarding the difficulty of new story will be.
>>1155216>SeiraIt's 2023. We also have the popular banner going with Higuchi alt and YunYun on there. Especially the former is WAY better than Seira, who does literally nothing in dungeons, and is a useless piece of shit for new players till she gets her ult. And even then she isn't really as good as Higuchi alt is.Seira is only good in ice teams with her alt now.>>1155212It's not requiring you to spend more time on it than other gacha do, even if you do a dungeon. That'd take maybe ~15 minutes, and would be your entire daily. Most days you probably wouldn't do that, and just do a prism fight -> lategame that takes usually 2-3 turns, and then you start the afk grind, another 2 turns. Then irregularly you have stuff like score attack, but that isn't exactly grind, unless you really want to. As far as real days passing goes, this is also a not very harsh game. You get to endgame within a month, 2 at worst. I'm personally constantly capped of all important resources, because you can get most of it for absolutely free via afk grinds.The only thing actually eating up all time would be shuttle running, but if you are on mobile that's out of question anyways. It's optional, though very powerful for skill leveling. You don't really do much yourself, other than make the chars auto run from one end of an area to the other end, while auto battle clears the battles. It just takes time. A whole fucking lot of time.Most do not do this, and it's not like the game expects you to, either.
