Previous thread >>853632 Demon spire guide: https://tkfm.wiki/the-demon-spire/Recruitment guide: https://purindaisuki.github.io/tkfmtools/en/enlist/filter//vmg/ v2 guild code: 91853176 (feel free to share your own, too)anon's recruitment code: 9QV8KT (again, all encouraged to share own) No current promo codes, but we'll share when they appear!Xmas time approaches now that spooky time is just about over (and these threads seem to last forever)
>>1047799damn smug trap, correction needed!
>>1047799>FemboyI'm not gay.... But
>>1047799>>1047801>>1047812>>1047821He's going into eternal banner. There's no escape.Is Caes going to tear his ass up? Or are some of the women going to take a run at him to make it SS instead of gay? Satan would be hilarious. Wouldn't put it past Lotiya, either.
>>1047928Would be werid considering Nu:Carnival is just this game, but Yaoi, but it wouldn't be the first, primarily heterosexual game to feature gay content, wouldn't be the second either.
>>1047939Traps aren't gay so it's okay.
Just choked on my drink after unlocking Panana's 3rd discipline room. Couldn't close it fast enough. Tags: extreme_insertion lol
>>1047928Speaking of women and tearing ass, didn't Juneau place high, if not win a popularity poll around the launch of the game? Her and that slime girl are the only launch SRs to not get an alt yet.
Just gave this one a whirl:>No easy reroll>No daily free summonsIs this game shitty or am I missing something. Are souls paid only?
>>1048650Souls trickle in from events but as f2p you're mainly going to be using Demonite and Summon Contacts.You get at least two "free" summons a day by doing daily chores, earning Recruitment Orders. These have a SSR chance as the "Leader" tag spawning.
>>1048780Speaking of, is it just me or are recruitments orders limited only to characters that were here from the very beginning?It's kind of lame if that's the case, obviously event characters should be limited to events or pick up banners, but recruitment should at least have the same pool as eternal summon, it's not like you get the leader tag very often.
>>1049089I think newer characters like Ayane and the Uruta are in the recruit pool. That tag testing website in the OP seems to think so. Speaking of leader tag, I got it twice in a day on my alt very recently. Same accompanying tags too. Dunno if luck or glitch, but goddamn I love Karina.
>>1049089Newer perms get added to recruitment later so people don't just wait recruitment tags.
This fuckin event.
>>1050085would ravage his ass
>>1050169AKA time to save for xmas.
>>1050360>save for xmasThat's awfully fluffless of you.
Welp, spire 35 is still destroying me no matter how much I up the potential level and the season is drawing to a close. Wrong characters for the job I suppose, but in 2 months there's only so much I could get as a F2P. Hope I'll manage to build a stronger team and beat the spire next season.
>>1050500>>105101035 is definitely the hardest stage there now. If you can't get through it, don't worry it'll most likely cycle out next season.The stage is really built for basic attack builds, so Usagi or Caesar.
i bet they made this event just to use this joke
>>1050478Man, this still makes me madLike, why the fuck do the R duplicates only give 1 orb when you clearly get 2 essences for a dupe before bond 5Farming orbs would be so much easier if they just made it 2. But they had to up the dupes of a SSR to 30 orbs instead, when only whales will ever get dupes of a bond 5 SSR anyways.
>>1051067I wonder if the 30 orbs for 6th SSR and after is so that you can buy 10 of your selected essence at the highest price in the shop. Nice if so. >>1051014Noel's troupe boils my piss. I can only reliably beat it with a good taunter in spot 3 and Aiko keeping them ailment free. 20 turns or fewer is for a perfect score is a tall order.
>>1051014>Usagi or CaesarI got neither of those so it checks out. I was hoping I'd be able to pull it off with Geneva but I just cannot survive past turn 8 at the very best so I can never use her to the best of her abilities.There might have been a way to beat it with the characters I have (Geneva, Lotus, H. Leona, H. Lotiya, Daphne, S. Lulu, I. Iblis, Noel, Lotiya + 3 stars Aiko and Minayomi), but I just don't have the resources to buff them all and try all the builds out.
>>1051229Don't worry too much about it. You're not really expected to clear the first spire season you started with. They said they're making spire easier and the new stages this season indeed were. It's just this leftover from last season that's giving new players trouble.Caesar and Usagi are the easiest win, but even Mes can work. Of course, these are all pretty built up so don't try this and neither is it a recommendation to build some of these units.
>>1051237>so don't try thisConsidering I have none of the units in your pic it's not like I could, even if I wanted to.Guess I'll see next season how the spire goes with the few characters I do have. And hopefully I'll manage to be more lucky on leader tags, I only got it once in 2 months.
>>1051242It's just a disclaimer in case someone would suddenly go build Mesmiia. She can work in some very niche teams but those are very high investment teams.Just keep the grind up, a main team of around 4* potential 9 should generally be good enough for spire up to 60. 61-63 don't have extra rewards beyond the 100 gem first clear so don't even try to bother with those.
>>1047799>Tranny character is a jewoy vey
>>1051344Wrong character, dingus.
>>1051251Oh, fair enough. Reaching potential 9 sounds like hell but oh well, time go go on a grind.Ended up getting 2 leader tags back to back today after I only got 1 since I started the game, I'll take it as a great omen.
>>1047799>>1047812>>1047821>>1047946>>1050171Anyone want to kiss and tell on the twink? How gay are the rooms?
>>1052796First room ceasar goes "no homo" and tells the twin to suck off some guard instead.He's R so 2nd room just gives orbs.Idk what's in 3rd room.
>>1052796You know their blog always posts the first scene, right?https://www.eng.forum.tenkafuma.com/post/22-11-14-character-intro
>>1052971Yeah but it's missing context (like it being a guard, in this case), and the other room could be wildly different (see Inori room 1 vs room 2)
Am I missing something or are the large energy potions a waste of time?>costs 40 books>get books at a rate of 0.4 per energy>therefore costs 100 energy to get a potion which restores 100 energy
>>1053298That's what I though too.You pick up some silver and exp, and it counts towards daily quest clears.
>>1049096>>1051577I got leader tag yesterday and today. Think they've changed something, or we've just been lucky?
>>1054204Eh probably the latter.Meanwhile, new spire 35 is still kicking my ass. At least I get to drag the boss down to ~35% health (before she regens because fuck you) as opposed to dying within 8 turns so it is indeed easier than before. Just still not within my reach apparently.
>>1055838Yeah she's a little shit. I had to save my burst until I knew I could finish her, since she starts a nuke countdown on low HP after the regen.This tower will be around ages anyway. You'll probably get her before it ends.
>>1055918What potential is your team at? Mine is at best on the first layer of level 6.
Any tips for this stage? Either I take too long for the 3* or I don't have the shields to survive the boss in the 2nd phase? I've been trying this for over 4 hours now.
>>1055838Ritsuki does bitter pill every other turn, and she shaves off 70% of your shields with her normals. Despite that, shields can still help. If your shield rate is high enough in the first place then you can still tank a good amount of damage. You would want a tank who has a 3CD taunt too so you can taunt her curses. Lastly, if you have any recovery rate down characters, you can reduce her heal when she hits 30%ish or something.>>105593460 and 63, most of their attacks are on 4/7/10 etc. They will cast a reflect debuff on you that does 20% of attack to your party. When they combine, she still has the thorns and other attacks but now you have to attack her with once character otherwise you get damage dealt debuff. In addtiion, you can't use 4 or more ults in one turn or you get a pause CD debuff on your party. Strong basics or a displaced CD3 nuke team is the most common builds for this.
>>1055934>>1055975Attack her once when you have the reflect damage debuff*
>>1055934I personally used Caesar/Fiora/summer Noel/Qixi twins, but a friend used Usagi to win it too. Fixed 3cd rotation like Aridya and Geneva are pretty bad here.
>>1055975Could a team like Geneva - Aiko - Daphne - S. Lulu - H. Leona be enough for Ritsuki if I buff them hard enough? No, I don't have any other SSR shielders.
>>1056079Do you not have any other healer? Aiko is pretty terrible and should be replaced by a proper healer ASAP.
>>1056079>>1056111Also I don't have experience with Geneva or Leona so I can't really say for sure.
>>1056111I have Lotus and vanilla Lulu.
>>1055925Pretty stacked up, to be fair.
>>1056138Oh yeah that explains things, your lowest potential character in here is at the level of my highest ones.I do have the resources to invest in a team, but I don't really have any of the meta characters (except maybe H. Lotiya who has to have 5 stars apparently) so I have to be careful who I chose to build up and that's what's blocking me.
>>1056131You can try this. Do take note that my Lotiya and Daphne are pretty buff while Aiko and Evie are pretty decent. Geneva is just pot 6.Aiko works here because Lotiya gives her 100% attack up so her healing can catch up to incoming damage by then. If you're not using Lotiya lead though, you might wanna swap her out for Lotus.I can't theorycraft too much possible team builds because a lot of my regular units are already pretty buff I don't know if any of these can work.
>>1056131>>1056535Forgot to say Evie does nothing there. All you need is a 3CD taunt tank so she can draw her ninjusu curses.
I was wondering when this thicc bitch would show up since she appeared as a boss (was it in the wonderland event?)
>>1056748She's appeared a few times already, but yeah the last time was during Wonderland event.
>>1056748IIRC, she first showed up with the "Resurrection "C"" event, with was well over a year ago.
>>1056535That's actually a team I can make (with Leona instead of Evie), I'll build it up and see how it goes. Thanks.
>>1056818Just do note that Lotiya lead isn't really all too great and you still would want a better leader. But Lotiya herself is still pretty good so feel free to put some investments on to her.Also Elizabeth next week so can also wait until we see what she does.
>>1056748>>1056756>>1057040I want to see Satan pinning her down and correcting her.I expect her rooms will actually have something to do with her undead army though.
JFC why did nobody tell me devil Britney room 2 was naked dogeza?!
>finally get a trap>scene is mediocreIt's not fair...
>>1047873For thousands of years, these sexy fox bitches keep trying to steal my man seeds.
Any tips for floor 50 Satan? If her AOEs don't kill me, her 300% counters do. Am I missing a mechanic?
>>1059652I don't remember much beyond guarding on turn 4 and turn 10. You ideally want to have taunt up when you DPS with your nuker since she does less damage to characters with guard up.She will have a 5% HP lock and you will have 1 turn to kill her in 1 turn. I think on 61F, that was around 30m-ish so it shouldn't really be that high for 50. One thing I recall is I only used 1 DPS 3 support 1 tank because I didn't want to deal with her counter BS.
>>1059652>>1060774Got her, thanks. Used Caesar lead instead of Ritsuki. Rest of the team stayed the same.Kept Usagi guarding to assist Caeser's lead damage unless Satan had taunt up, and Kana guarding when possible since Chizuru's passive healing is pretty nice.Just had to be careful not to have my Satan taunting when the boss used their turn 4 or 10 AOE because she'd try to take all of the hits and die.
holy shit it took all 100 rolls to get elizabeth. I'm out of demonite on the eve of the christmas event
>>1061741I got jebaited too. I've heard some talks that Shizuka will be Christmas so I'm verily screwed. Guess time to buy a present for myself.
Elizabeth seems just decent for basic attack teams, probably slightly better than Shizuka or Minayomi but nothing ground breaking I think.Her evolve colors are lame too, and her 5* looks the worst while her 3* looks the best.
Is easter Satan worth grinding for these days
>>1061933I'd say yes for four reasons:>It's nice to have alternative guardians for time rift and there aren't that many if you're f2p.>Her skills make her pretty offensive as far as guardians go >Her second discipline tier gives a skill stone which is very valuable if you're starting outAnd most importantly...>Unrelenting sexual aggression
>>1061753>christmas shizukaI've made a serious mistake
>>1057040Well, it took pushing Lotiya to 4*P7, Daphne & Leona 4*P6, Geneva 5*P6 and Aiko 3*P5 but I managed to finally beat her with 3 stars even with that mediocre build, so thanks anyway.Now to go hit the next brick wall at floor 40 I guess. Which leads are supposed to be good anyway (apart from Caesar who everybody seems to use)? I probably got none of them but in case I luck my way into one I'd rather be aware of it so I can immediately invest in her.
>>1062484Caesar and bride Baal are the ones that need the least investments to get running.Kana is decent but shines if you have a good nuker dps and either bride Baal or Halloween LotiyaEmily is also pretty good but needs bonds and 5*, but a 4 support + 5th position nuker is also greatUsagi is also not bad if you have her at 5* and NY Ritsu, Elizabeth, or other debuffing attackersSummer Noel but is extremely expensiveAsida with Asina and fire/water team is also decent but needs Asina 5* Halloween Salu is a good amount behind those above but also doesn't need too much limitedNY Minayomi might also see more use now with Leona being a good partner unit but as per trigger patterns, needs multiple 5* to work
>>1062484I should also add that some units are just so strong that they can almost go anywhere and still pull your team up like Asida, Emily, or both of them together. Asida+Asina are also super strong for any fire/water lead dps.You ideally should also be running only 1 healer. Harvest Fiora is generally the safest bet that works anywhere. Christmas Lana should be the best pure healer kit. Lotus us a niche but potentially very powerful healer/burst buffer but only for 3CD teams.
>>1062640>>1062763>Got none of the good leaders as expected>Out of all the characters mentioned at all across both posts I only have the latest Halloween duo and LotusWell, I'm probably going to suffer for a long time. Thanks for the info.
>>1062770Halloween Lotiya is extremely strong, some would go as far as to say she's on bride Baal's level. As for the newer units, I can't really say much because I haven't built to try them yet and I've not been keeping to up to date with meta builds due to nikke
>>1062484Floor 40 Kana and Ichika you seem to have to juggle who you damage damage. Like one can't go below 75% health until the other does.There's a charge and stun phase too. I recommend focusing on Ichika there but I admit that I don't fully understand the mechanic.
>>1061983>>Unrelenting sexual aggressionNow obviously that's my primary reason for wanting her but I wanted to make sure it was worth the crystals first.
>>1062883It's only till 50 or 60k points, I doubt you'll need to refill? I don't really care for her as a unit but that fat puffy vulva activates my neurons and I'm going for it.
>>1062883>>1062945I actually forgot to mention reason 5. Her big long ponytail.
>>1062945I need like 4k points a day, definitely need to refill
Elizabeth's room 1 was hot but room 2 and 3 were disappointing. I was hoping for another version of room 1 where she takes all the dicks. I feel baited.
>>1063371That’s disappointing, 1 was the best. Is 3 any better than 2 at least?
>>10638543 is 2 but shy from what I've heard.
Just remembered. For 55/62, the Fufus also deal damage to themselves and this damage is counted as trigger. If the standard besting them up isn't going so well you could try these. One way to win is to use very high attack stacking buffers and Iris AOE dots. Another way is to use trigger debuff like NY Minayomi and killing them with their self damage amped by trigger debuff.I don't remember 60/63 much but I think basic attack builds work great there
>>1064884Floor 60 is killing me on my alt. I have 177 stars as well.I can get the boss to about 25% but by turn 28 her damage is too high and I lose a party member, losing the 3*.I'm using Caesar 4* lead, Usagi 5*, WL Chiz 5*, TM Ritsuki 4* and Kana 4*.The last two just need more HP but their potential is anyway high so progress is slow.Nearly two months to go until the tower times out. I think I'll make it.
>>1062870I somehow narrowly squeeze by floor 40 with one star, with two of my chars underleveled (L57 Lotiya and Leona). I'll have to retry with them at their full level later but I feel I might be able to do it with 3 stars.Planning to push Lotiya to 5* as well, which should help further.
>>1064884>>1065221I'm not sure about 62, (because 60 is still filtering me hard), but if it's the same as 55, then a Summer Lulu team can almost auto it.
>>1065289It's mechanically the same but 61+ are turbo roided, but yhou can probably do it with summer Lulu with enough potentials. Just one Fufu has 2.1b HP, and there's still 5 of them. Incoming damage from the later turns also start to really hurt.
>>1061753>>1062317The prophecy was true
Mia, Usagihime, Chizuru, and now Aiko. Wabbit season still in full swing.
>>1066809>I have c.Aiko>Which one?
New update has me extremely hyped.>Liberation crystals breathing life into legacy characters>50 free pulls for xmas>Character resets refunding coins and potions>Changing excess essences for other charactersSick
>>1067431What a fucking misleading post, I knew it sounded too good so I went and read it all, you failed to mention A LOT of detailsLiberation is only for bond 5 characters and the only 3 that you will be able to liberate will be the 3 og SSR archdemons, and only whales will have those at bond 5. Sure it mentions others will be available later but who knows how long will that take, and even then as a f2p or a low spender you'll mostly be using this on your SRsThe 50 free pulls are on the eternal banner only, not the xmas one or the triple archdemon banner (which has step rewards for hitting 50, 100, and 150 summons, so the 50 free summons won't help you here)Character resets is alright but its only once a month and you get 90% of the investments (silver and xp pots) back, you can't reset the potentialAs for the character essence, its also better than nothing but here's what it reads(1) Any Memory Essence can be used to exchange for "Nameless Memory Crystal" in the [Storage].(2) "Nameless Memory Crystal" can be used to exchange for "Memory Orb".And by knowing how jewish these fucks are it will most likely be a very expensive trade, my guess is they will make it 3-5 nameless crystals = 1 memory orb
>>1067431Hot damn, I just checked it and those are some nice updates indeed.One of the paid package also looks sick, 5* bond 3 char for 2000 ecoin or something. That sounds like a steal for Lotiya.
>>1067471Yeah, the upgrade is pretty much just for whales.Reset is only levels so pretty ok, but doesn't reset the important ones like potentials and evolves.Essence trade is good though, even at bad rates we got some event essences to trade in for absolute shitters like Miru.
>>1067471Sorry, I didn't mean to bamboozle.Lib crystals are 2 characters for now but surely they'll roll out more.On eternal pulls, even if you pull shit you're still getting 50+ orbs.Potential not lowering for resets is kind of OK to me. I'm more looking at it freeing up silver, which is always a scarce resource.
Do Erolabs and Nutaku players populate the same server? Can we join the same guild?
>>1067701Yes, game only has 1 server.
Paypig here, out of all the units that I didn't mark out, which one do you think I should pick up?
>>1067982Lotiya is the only one worth I'd say.
>>1066170>>1066809I really wish I didn't waste all my rolls on elizabeth now
>>1067471>and only whales will have those at bond 5. Even as a end dolphin/low end whale, like I am, it hardly makes sense. The vast majority of banners these days have the featured unit as the only SSR(s), so it would be a pain in the ass to get them at any moment after their banner is up (for example, I have every limited SSR, and have been playing on and off since these threads started, but I have some of the older units at low bond, like Iblis being only at bond 1, and some of the older ones I haven't pulled yet like Chizuru), most units only give marginal at best buffs per bonds, and most of that want multiple bons only really care about bond 3. Not only is it a Gacha game, but it's also a coomer one at that, so every resource not being used to summon o older units over the shiny new ones is practically wasted. It hardly makes sense for anyone who isn't the top 1% who would even want to go out of their way to enhance a unit like that.
On new Lotiya, am I reading her 5* ability right? That is attackers/obstructors/protectors will give the party +15% attack power EACH for the rest of the fight? So up to 60%?
>unlocked bunny SatanI had forgotten how aggressively sexual she was, I love her.
>>1066809Looking at this and the new scene preview... Aiko sure has grown over the last year.
https://www.eng.forum.tenkafuma.com/post/22-12-12-character-intro>Well if Christmas isn't coming to Shizuka, then Shizuka's just gonna have to come to Christmas! kek
>>1069328It's a secret maid technique.
>>1069328>>1069994Looking at Emily, I believe it
Anyone back in the game yet? My app updated but now it just goes to a black screen.
>>1070895Try restarting your phone a few times. I know I have to do that occasionally.
>>1070953I got there in the end. Seems like I was too early. Then I couldn't work out where the hot springs stage was. Didn't realise its meant the pools below the locked hotel.Got Shizuka from the new banner. Would have preferred Aiko since Shiz is up for grabs in the event (nice you can get two for "free")
Promo code for 1000 demonite: tkfm2ndanniv
>>1067478Yeah, nevermind then, my badThe liberation thing still seems like bullshit. The shop only allows you to buy 2 liberation crystals, that you have to "combine", and it doesn't even explain how many, which are 15k a piece (and that's 50% off, lmao) so shit's expensive af and only whales will be able to test if it's even worth spending so much.But the memory orb/fragment thing I was definitely wrong on, I managed to collect 1k fragments just by exchanging all the leftover essences. R and SR giving 5 and 8 frags each was surprising, I'm glad they were generous with this one.
Has the game ever had guest artists? I don't like the art style much
If anyone is doing that 5* base set character pull, remember to wait until you've used your free eternal pulls. You could choose your character then pull them anyway. >>1071087Don't think so =(
>Waste the 60 summon contract that I had saved>2 ShizukasI really wanted CAiko
>>1071087Afaik Usagihime draws all charactersChristmas Spirit, motherfuckers.
>>1067431>>1067471>>1071052This was my free eternal pull. Got Lulu on my alt with it today too.
Small, but obvious spoilers for the event. >>1070194I wonder if they're going to say that Emily's reintroduction to Aiko's life helped her tame her psycho self.
Satan at spire 61 is kicking the shit out of me, any advice?
>>1072281It's the same as 50, just with higher stats. Much higher stats.
Normal attack ceasar can dish out some pretty fat damage, 56m per turn, and it could be better with w.lulu
>Used all 50 christmas draws>Got 1 SSR>It's Aridya who I already hadKill me.
>>1073737I thought there was a draw left. I really want a 5th lulu for my alt to bring her ult to 4cd. Targeted her whenever i get a leader tag.
Okay so I can't play this game at all? Just keeps crashing on my phone and the website links to a dead link for the apk. wtf I just want an alright hentai gacha
>>1073420Obviously this team won't be very viable in most real fights, but I like Bride Satan's big numbers.
I don't get how C. Shizuka's leader ability works, or at least the "Christmas Rules" part. On paper it seems straightforward enough, but in actual battle, even though the requirements are met (party has one protector, 2 light chars and 1 fire char), I'm only seeing the base +40% AP increase, and not the (40%+50%+25%+25%) I thought I would see.Does it simply not show up in the stats because it's a trigger ability? Am I retarded and misunderstood the requirements? Is it not cumulative like I thought it was? Less likely, but is there a mistranslation somewhere?
>>1075013Is this what you're seeing? I guess because they're passives.Team is C.Shiz, Evie, S.KS-VIII, and Usagi btw.
>>1074677Try nox or ldplayer. I think the game still has problems with android 12.
Doing rifts and I can now fully appreciate how disgustingly powerful Lotiya is. Every stage I put her in just melts.
>>1076033Regular or Halloween?
>>1076171Halloween, my bad.
Iblis bros we eating good.
>>1076559Yeah... Iblis..Disregard the 3 broken VD's and the fact they're all 5* and b3/b5
>>1076721Iblis really makes it work. KS gets reduced damage everytime she gets attacked, so summer Iblis' all attacker setup is probably top 1 or 2 best matchup for it.
>>1075165Yeah, after testing it out it seems to work fine.Wonder if it works with H. Leona's 5* ability (which is to raise damage taken from trigger abilities) since this is apparently a trigger skill. I doubt so because it's also a passive skill, but I don't have the resources to experiment like this. Not even sure if it would be any good anyway.
Not as good as the youtube upload, but done with rift. KS is finally a nice break from the previous 2 BS rift SPs, very fair fight.
Fun little minigame. You only have 2 hits allowed on hard, but she follows a set pattern anyway so you just have to learn the counterplay and execute well.
>Anon, you cleared the minigame on miru difficulty yet, right?
>>1078434What? How do you get to that option? I keep mashing the next but only hard ever comes up.
>>1078461You need to tap the arrow right 11/12 times on difficulty select screen. Might need to beat hard first.The fight is exactly the same as hard, but usagihime mecha has a lot more visual clusterfuck.
>>1078506Oh nice, another 100 toys. Thanks anon.
>>1078233How do you avoid the gift missiles?Also can I say how impressed I am with the guild? We cleared this week's prizes on like Wednesday/Thursday. Mad lads, thanks all.
>>1078647Phase 1 tracks your position. Walk to avoid the first, time your jump to avoid the second while also throwing off the third one so it just shoots past above you when you land.Phase 2 is just run to the opposite side and jump for the last.
I'm trying to put the new promo code (tkfmsexmas for 40 toys and 1 potion) in the guild notice but apparently I'm not allowed to write "sex" in there. Baffling.
I have regular Salucia at Bond III. Can anyone with higher bond tell me if her ult CD ever gets lower than 6? It seems very high.
Is summer lulu good?
>>1083079She was. Maybe not so much now. She carried me when I first started a year ago. Probably still decent.
>>1083079>>1083114She's still good as a support, her 2nd passive's 35% VD is very good for 4turn ult burst teams
>>1083079If you're talking about the new banner, both the other 2 units are much better. Summer Lulu is still decent but dependent on also having 3-4 other powerful supporters and healers.
Xmas Lana, Bride Satan, and TM Ritsuki make a hell of a banner. If I didn't already have 2/3 at bond V, I'd be diving in HORD.
>Had to painfully dredge 84 or 85 summons as a F2P without using demonite on the christmas banner to finally get the SSR pull>Lose the coinflipWell, barring a seasonal miracle I'm not getting Aiko. At least I have a bond 3 C. Shizuka I guess. Also managed to complete the tower (sans bonus stages) for the first time so that's nice. Doubt I'll be able to clear the bonus stages any time soon though.
>>1084581>Devs gave away 5 free summons as an apology>Ended up getting Aiko thanks to thatC H R I S T M A S M I R A C L E
>It's not a bug, it's a featureGuess H.Britney just got buffed.
Just started today. Used 11 summons on the christmas banner and got both the featured girls. Is that super good or common?
>>1086157Very good and not at all common. I had to pity twice.
>>1086173I see. So should I keep rolling to try my hand at dupes if I really like these characters or are they fine as is
>>1086174I would just keep your rolls.Shizuka ideally would want 4 copies but you can get 2 from the event. But Aiko would want 3 copies so if you coinflip and get Aiko you're kinda screwed and would need another one of either.Disclaimer also that my POV is for endgame, I'm not quite sure how good they are for starting/early game.
>>1086180Oh I see. It's one of those gachas where important skills and effects are locked behind dupes. So yeah, guess I gotta save up so I can get multiple dupes of a character I like
>>1086188Just to clarify, Shizuka is already good out of the box. Getting sl4 for her just makes her secondary debuff stronger and stack faster but her main debuff is the same.Aiko is great as a leader and semi debuffer, but getting dupes of her makes her also a very strong DPS.They're both good because out of the box they're primarily debuffers and you're not in danger of seeing them powercreeped by a stronger DPS. The dupe part only really comes into play for ultra end game stuff.
>>1086191Alright alright I see. I'll keep playing maybe throw some rolls and see what girls I end up liking and see if I can build a team with them later
New month, time to de-level another SR from when I started playing. 400k silver back is not to be sniffed at. >Janelle is too dumb to realise she's getting nuked
>>1047742What's a daily super summon and is it worth it
>>1086458It's a scam for whales. Just a regular gacha roll, but you pay souls for it.
>>1086157Oh wait it's the normal Shizuka not the christmas one. Wasn't gonna use her anyway that's why it took me so long to realize it
Am I a moron, or do both S. Aiko and C. Shizuka feel like semi-meta leader material? Decently strong bonuses with annoying but not impossible conditions to fulfill. Aiko with the better bonuses, but also the more restrictive conditions.
>>1086927It's not just semi-meta, to my knowledge both of them with Aiko as lead have the fastest clears for every rift SP stage.Shizuka lead is pretty okay, but as unit she's an absolute beast. Summer Shizuka but dialed up to 12, although her bond 4/5 boosts are pretty big.
I have decided Minayomi is my favorite whore and I will build a team with her. Luckily I rolled Ibuki Shuten so she works well with her as leader for triple attacker and triple fire ATK buffs.
>>1086960An optimal Aiko lead+Shizuka build would be something like those 2 + a nuker, support and healer with 2 being light and the other wind, right? I'm curious to try her out but I'm lacking on the nuker front and those two don't seem like heavy hitters on their own as far as my testing went (maybe at 5*?).As for Shizuka, she might not be Aiko tier, but isn't bad as a leader either. I was stuck at floor 60 with my four 5* + one 4* team (all potential 7) no matter what combination I tried, switched to her as lead (three 5*, two 4*, still potential 7) and it all worked out. Even managed to get 61 afterwards, still at potential 7. 62 is a fuck but that might just be due to potential being too low at this point, barring a super-meta comp.
>>1087026Yes, best loadout is probably Aiko/Wonderland Chizuru/Harvest Fiora/Shizuka and nuke of your choice.Aiko is decently strong, but she needs bond 3 and up to be a good DPS since she gets a self damage output buff. Shizuka is also decent since her 5* is now damage output instead of summer Shizuka's attack up only.For nukes, I heard SKS or liberated Iblis are best picks. It sounds weird, but liberated Iblis accordingly has a gigantic 970k or 990k attack and she has higher ult multipliers compared to standard CD4 nukes while also being CD3.
>>1087034Well, good to know if I ever become a whale I guess.
>>1087043Tyrella should still be a good pick for light DPS since there's no timed bursts. SKS is usually used for AOE option for Bally/Tyrella but she's still solid on her own. Bride Iblis is also decent from what I hear.
So what's the best team I can put together using just animal ear characters? Been playing for a bit and between luck and some money here and there I've picked up all of 'em except summer Nana. So with Usagihime, Sherana, Summer & Christmas Shizuka, Fufu, Easter Chizuru, Miru, Chosen Nana, Geneva, Shiro, and Inori, what's the best bullshit I can throw together?
>>1089336Depends on bonds. I haven't been keeping to up to date on newer stuff but I'd look into either Usagi or space Nana leader. Christmas Shizuka might be an option if they release a good tank.Both Shizukas and/or SR Minayomi for debuffs, Wonderland Chizuru for buffing support, and either one of the healers. At a glance just reading kits, Shiro might be better in general.Try them out in training dummy level 1 before you commit to investments.
>>1089356I keep forgetting training dummy is a thing. Thanks bro.
Anyone got/used Shiro? Her abilities look kind of bland. Like she's a slot-filler on a team that doesn't really need a specific character.Side note, she's obscenely hot so I might go for her anyway.
>>1090636Didn't try or pull, but she looks decent enough judging from her skill sheet. Great if you don't have the good healers like Fiora or Lana but looks like a sidegrade if you already do.She's wind though, so if you're building a Christmas Aiko based team and don't have Fiora then you probably want to get her.
>>1090636She's probably the best eternal healer, but still a bit behind limited ones.I pulled her because she looks like powercrept version of vanilla Lulu and will probably do really well in msgk Salucia team. Not sure where else she could shine.
>>1090636If you have the new Akio, or especially Halloween Salucia she's probably going to be worth it not only being a straight upgrade to Lulu, but also being either of those team's only way to get AoE shield, no matter how small it still helps (yeah, you can run Summer Noel under new Akio's leader skill, but that team isn't going to be running too many obstructors to justify her on the team.) Also, it she can pro Kana's buff on heal twice per turn.
What's the strategy to beat the mecha at the last stage of White christmas?
I bought a new phone and got back to playing after more than a year, I'm really happy to see that the game has grown and there are lots of new stuff...is there space on the guild? I still haven't unlocked it, I just want to know
>>1092735Yeah there's normally space in the guild. I clear the inactives frequently.
>>1092732Did/could not play around with it much. But seems like she just does heavy damage to the oposite 3 units when she readies her missiles and paralyzes you if you attack with EMP trap. Probably want any form of hp regen for EMP trap. She also casts a pretty high self shield but it only lasts for 1 turn, so you may want to save ult for the next turn assuming she's not going to be using EMP trap.As usual, potential 6 is recommended for challenge stages, can go lower with good team compositions but I can't properly give recommendations since we don't have the option to simulate lower evolve/potentials.
I haven't been able to play since December 22nd, due to the app auto-crashing on my S22+.Everytime I artempt to use the PC 'app', It doesn't want to load right.I am legit disappointed that I wasn't able to get Xmas Aiko 2.Anyone have similar problems that were able to solve the crashing issue? (I've done reinstalling multiple times, restarted multiple times and in a row, install an older version, and etc)
>>1093402I have a regular S22. I just have to restart until the game likes my phone again. It's been a problem the devs acknowledged for more or less a year now, but they haven't done much if anything about it yet.
>>1093402I heard it's an android 12 issue, although I also have to say that I currently have a ROG with android 12 but it works fine. It randomly just keeps crashing on startup but it eventually works after a restart.I think it has an option to run it via cloud? I heard some iOS users just do that although I don't know much about it beyond people mentioning it a few times.
Upcoming banner for Miru and Usagihime. Hell of a coin flip.
>>1095498"character skill enhancement" sounds like a buff for Miru, shame there is no details about it
>>1095504Good, she really needs it.New promo code to claim: tkfmenergyget
>>1095498Just sold all my Miru essences, nice. Not that I'd probably build her anyway even she ended up strong.
Tiddy bandage Lana.>>1095498I have Usagi at bond II, 5* rarity. I really want to boost her bond but don't think it's worth the risk.
If you're not farming anything at the moment, probably a good idea to do the film daily in case they're needed for the puzzle again.
>>1096673Already am for the new Anna/Charlene/etc puzzles.New Salucia is Wind/Obstructor which is a convenient combo. Chink dress nopan is nice too.
>>1096709>ObstructorNew obstructxodia piece???
>>1096712I wouldn't hold your breath. It's clear that the devs are as afraid as Summer Noel as they were with Summer Lulu back back then, so I would expect her to be highly specific on what team(s) she wants to be in like HM Fiora.
>>1096712I want to believe, but also doubt it. She's both wind and obs, both element and class that they've been afraid to make a strong character with.Being wind can also mean she can slot in the new FOTM wind/light Christmas meta.
>>1096712>>1096713>>1096715In all honesty, it's so weird to see the developers to care so deeply about the game's meta, to the point where it's clear that character's kits will get designed around not being able to synergize with others in fear for breaking the game whenA.) It's not all that mechanically complex in the first place, to the point where most endgame fights are either purely puzzle battles, DPS checks, or DPS checks within puzzle battlesB.) It's first and foremost a porn game, so as long as people can want to jerk off the designs, it shouldn't be tough to sale a new unitI would get it if it was some competitive component to it, but it just doesn't seem like the kind of game to receive such scrutiny in unit design.
>>1096722Both Bride Satan and Summer Noel fiasco were exactly because they didn't bother to check interactions with other units. And most of the whales do in fact care about the meta. One of the more known CN whales only buys enough to bond 5 if the units are good, otherwise he just grabs a copy.
>>1096724Bridal Satan and Summer Noel are the exceptions, but even then, I think there's more than enough space for a solid middle ground between creating a unit that breaks the game and gimping units and/or pigeon holding them to a limited amount of teams. I mean look at any form of CC outside of susceptibility to having more damage taken. Even if distribution wasn't limited to the point of neigh if not complete irrelevancy, almost every endgame boss is immune to them, making almost every team the same blend the same blend of DPS, DPS enablers, and Supports, and the few time you can deviate from the formula, they become more like insta-win cheat codes than legitimate tech options.
>>1097043Oh yeah for sure. To be fair, a lot of early impressions are always thinking how new units will go with older leaders but they could also be better leaders themselves like Christmas Aiko.They really do have the 'diferent flavors of dps fast' team building, but in Noel's case it could be a delicate balance since the obs team's only has Mesmiia as debuffer and yet still performs very well.
>>1096709Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you>elegance personified
>>1095504Wow she actually does damage with her normal attacks now. Revolutionary.
>>1099106She looks pretty decent now, granted I don't know what her old kit was besides doing nothing. Looks like she works well with the new Salu since she has a lot of self triggers on top of some ult debuffs.That said, I don't understand this. Make a trigger unit but every trigger unit thus far can't be used. I can't figure out who could theoretically fit in for the 3 wind pieces too. Fire has a lot of good options like Miru, Lotus, Asida. Wind has Aiko, Salucia, and Idk who could be the CD3 unit. Shiro maybe as solo heals?
What is a trigger? Using ultimates?
>>1099412Add-on damage that is a subset of ultimate damage. In the CN description, accordingly it specifically states 'triggers' but the MTL we get more often than not doesn't say it. You're best to ask around which add-on damages are triggers.
>>1099412>>1099538It should be pretty obvious, but Salucia's add-on damage are all considered triggers.Off the top of my head, the most common trigger units which unfortunately most of them can't be used with Salucia because most of them are light are bride Iblis, True Moon Minayomi, SR Minayomi, Summer Milae, Summer KS, Qixi Asida, Halloween Lana, Miru, I think Ibuki. Again, not a comprehensive list.
>>1099557Isn't Usagihime also a trigger? Obstuctxodia (trigger mode) might just work.
>>1099560No, Usagi is not. She is specifically basic attack, while triggers are a subset of ultimate. I don't know if they chnaged it bt you can even buff triggers with ultimate damage mods although obviously the reverse doesn't work.
All flex team because having Lotiya in there is plain cheating, but almost turn 9 with a fresh Lana.
Both of the new units not looking too good, but damn I might 5* Salucia with my dick.
>>1099824Lana looks like she can hit very HORD though. 50% attack from passive 1 by turn 4, another 75% every 4th turn from passive 2 (and another 40% if you go to 5* and get passive 3).After all that, bond V ult gives a 135% boost then does a 555% hit.I have her at bond IV now. I'll level up and test after my last pull (got Salucia at bond IV too - somebody is gonna get big either way)
>>1100040Yeah, Lana does look like the better unit. But the stirct CD4 timing burst is so oversaturated now I guess a lot of people lost interest.This is also coming from how absurd Christmas Aiko and Shizuka are, with Aiko being both DPS with a slightly weaker Asida-esque debuff and Shizuka being the absolute goat debuffer for ult based teams. But do tell how it goes with your tests, I'd like to eventually see how Lana goes but I think I'm letting my dick lead the way with 5* a bond 1 Salucia.
>>1100068Turns 5 and 9. Pretty good. A lot like bride Satan but she needs 4 attackers. Last slot would need to be a healer or at least healing support in reality (Bunny Chizuru probably)
>>1100209I guess that's not too bad, but you really need an op healer to go with it since Lana doesn't buff the healer's attack. Christmas Shizuka might also be better than Elizabeth to further boost ult damage - or really, anything in general.Wish we could have units on loan so I can try it out with summer Iblis and Christmas Shizuka.
>>1100285Marginally better, but my xshiz is only 4* bond III. She might be my next 5*.I don't know if other games have similar things but the roaming warrior mechanic from Final Fantasy Record Keeper was good fun for lending units. So sad that game is gone. Tenka is my replacement.
>>1100473A shame, bond 4 is where Shizuka starts to really go nuts since her ult stacks compress to just 2 but with also higher multiplier per use and cap.Yeah if not loan units, at least have a preview/test unit with sliding bond/potential/evolve.
>>1100514Forgot I have a good Summer Iblis. Better combo.
I'm sorry for talking shit on you Aridya, you're a good little sleep loli.>>1100815Yeah, summer Iblis is nuts if you're using fire or water nukes.
I'm so dumb. I put Lana to 5* when I still have 35 essences to claim for her from the event when I get enough points. Got too excited.
>>1101541At least you can sell them now. Not a good conversion rate but better than dead stocks lying around forever.
Don't forget that there's a puzzle up. That's another 20 something rolls in there.
Just realized I have a SSR selector from somewhere so I might as well ask. Which one of those SSRs from the selector would be best to select. My only condition is that Minayomi be in the squad.
>>1102334The common choice is Daphne, but I don't know if you really need her with Shiro who IIRC also has shields of her own. I haven't actually used Daphne in probably a year now despite having her bond 5.It might still be better to pick her up anyway since the rest of the options all either suck or need bond 5 to not suck.
I've come to really hate the puzzle fights. Mainly because there's no way of knowing what the game wants you to do. What the enemies say as a hint usually much too vague to be helpful. The stats screen thatshows buffs/debuffs/etc is rarely related. You can trial and error so far but put one for wrong and whoops, start again. And you might be on the wrong track anyway.tl;dr someone pls tell me what the new 3rd and 4th stages want before I ragequit.
>>1104275From what I've found.3 you pretty much have to always have one of your grils guard every turn or else you get silenced. She has a 3CD ult push so you either avoid timed burst builds like summer Lulu or Lotiya and just use permanent lingering buffs/debuffs.4 you're given 12 turns to stack all your buffs/debuffs as she kills one of your grils every 3 turns. You can guard to force her to down a gril of your choice or she just does it at random. When it's down to 1v1, she gives your last remaining gril the ability to full heal when you guard and it's just a standard slugfest as you avoid ults/thorns turns by guarding and healing and DPSing when she just does basics. You can alternatively use leaders that allow your attacker to heal as they attack like Halloween Lotiya/summer iblis/Kana or something.
Wow, Iblis' 3rd liberate looks great.
>>1104534Yeah, Iblis is pretty much the only one that's really worth liberating right now. The devs were probably too afraid of Satan, so they ruined her chances of being good again by making all of her stuff offensive buffs, and while Ba'al is pretty good, her peak is still basically on Summer Iblis teams, as she's a raw DPS that still can't do as much damage as the big girls.
Is the big three now the big four with the addition of lil' Caesar?
>>1104534>>1104957I'm glad liberation crystals have been added to the event reward pool, similar to flawless souls.Shame there were no crimson crystals to go with Lana essence though.
>>1047799>"hmmm maybe I should try this game">open thread>first thing I see is that picturedodged a bullet
>>11079581 of 120 characters. Wouldn't worry about it.
>>1107583It's nice, but I only have a handful of bond 5s. Wish they made it to bond 3 requirement or something instead.>>1107958It's just one guy. And the MC who literally fucks anything that moves told him to fuck off and suck a random guard or something.
Has a ponytail ever not been the best option?I like the variety 5* outfits are getting. Like Dragon Dancer Lana gets a new pose.
Spire 61 is great. Fair fight mechanics with a decent amount of stat check.62 is bollocks. Extremy high stat and unit check because of the 17 turn limit.63 is piss easy. Stat check is higher than 61 but no mechanics besides first turn. Summer Noel obs team can even auto through it once you've gotten through first turn.Basic attack builds seem really good for this season, one of the few end game content where Wonderland can really slap their shit in. Christmas 2022 is also very good as expected.
>>1110153I tried 61 Didi and got my ass beat. Will have to try again because I haven't gone over 60 before and this sounds doable.I assume there will be some new event next week, and we'll get an announcement soon. I hope there's a new souls banner with some of the last few girls I need. Got over 100 souls burning a hole in my pocket.
>3. Added [STEP] Souls Summon Banner>- Summon Probabilities: SSR Bride Iblis 1% / SSR Wonderland Lulu 1% / SSR Summer Aridya 1%I want wLulu but this banner seems trash...
>>1111809Isn't S Aridya an ass slapper against single targets?
>>1111909She might be fine as a lead, but otherwise, attackers want 3+ bond and forcing that on soul banner sounds very expensive
I'm very much down for a dark obstructor thicc from chocolate consumption satan.
>>1112385Honestly, it's rather boring seeing the 3 archdemons again, especially as we got two Iblises last year. Would've love to see a unit like Fufu or Mesmiia get their first alt before going down the same same holes again.
>>1112410I agree this would be much more interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if it's at least partly based on popularity polls.Out of interest, how does everyone arrange their home screen? Just one girl or 2-3? Do you change it often? Clothed or -otherwise-?
>>1111095While I say fair, this is for spire 60+ standards where some of them pretty much need multiple 5* potential 12 characters with decent bonds. I can't be sure if 5* potential 9 is doable, but I think my Christmas Aiko team are mostly pot 9 with the exception of Shizuka and Chizuru.>>1111909Aridya can still work but in very specific team composition and content. Bond 1 Aridya can work for rift SP Salu and Iblis. For spire though, she hasn't seen much use.
It's nice to get a selectable girl as an event prize but I think I prefer getting a prescribed one with 55 essence as prizes too.Anyway I got the one I wanted.
>>1114867It's definitely way better because the essences are insane value, the christmas event especially, they gave away 2 copies of shizuka and like 70+ essence I think, it was pretty nice since you could evolve her to 5* with less than 200 orbsThis on the other hand, isn't bad for people who roll at least 2 girls on the banner and then pick the third, but I'm salty because I only got one in 90 summons and now I'll have to decide who to pick. Qixi banner was nice because it was only the twins so it didn't matter who you rolled and could just pick the other
>>1115109I gor 3 SSRs in 120, but it's all Satan who I don't care about. I don't know how to feel about this.
>>1115657that would feel good if you like using S.Noel and horrible in any other case
>>1102334 here. Are any of the chocolate 3 brides worth going for and raising? I threw a couple of rolls and got Satan.
>>1115986Ba'al is another strong limited healer, can't go wrong rising her unless you already invested in manyIblis paired with Emily buffing tmMinayomi or Usagi is probably really strong, but she will be hard to use outside of that specific lineupSatan looks slow and she still has base stats of a tank. Summer Noel will probably enjoy Obstructer with damage taken debuff since she only has summer KS-VIII for, but it's a super whale comp and she doesn't look great for anything else
>>1115986Follow your boner, my friend. It is but a game.
>>1115844Not even. Summer Noel is an ult spam team. I mean she could slot in just fine because Noel is broken but Satan wouldn't be much better than what you're probably already using.New Year Salucia is a better use of the slot since her ult buffing apparently also affects Noel's healing giving the team the much needed healing rate buff.
>>1115986First impressions, but:>Ba'alShe's really good, and easily the best of the 3 I'm pretty sure sure she's the only healer that can increase the damage a target can receive, which is going makes her value sky rocket. Her ultimate is mistranslated though it only heals you at the end of turn for 3 turns.>IblisShe's pretty much Emily with a different coat of paint. I haven't used Emily nor Bridal Ba'al, but from what I've heard they're both phenomenal units that can make you easily handle difficult content. There are probably meme comps where you can run both at once, and while having a light unit is recommended for that 5th slot, it's not required. She has a big problem in the fact she has one of those "Every X turns, increase the Attack Power for 1 turn" and while I'm not sure how that's going dig in into other units, it's going to harm your DPS a lot if you have a boss that cares about you doing specific things on certain turns.>SatanShe's gonna be one of those units that is either going to be the difference maker or sitting around with a thumb up her ass. I haven't finished this month's tower, but from it and last month's, it does seem like HP values of bosses have ballooned do much, you would think you're playing Bloons instead. The 10-ish turns to trigger all of her effects is not too big of an ask, against most boss fights, so she's still probably going to be a decent investment.
>>1102356Daphne is still like one of the better supports in the game....There's a reason the developers haven't attempted to make a shield focused unit like her is due the fact that a well-timed ult allows you power power though almost everything not designed to one-shot you thanks to there being no upper limit on how much you can have. Even more so as her shields last multiple turns, scale off her AP, and at bond 3, that 3 turn cooldown is more than generous. If a boss has massive shield hate, it's because the devs knows that she can make teams power through their gimmick.
>>1116888>If a boss has massive shield hateYeah but that's exactly why she's just not as good anymore though, last few spires always had a boss or 2 at the higher levels where they would just negate all your shields and she would turn up useless. Just like that anon I have her at bond 5 and I haven't even slotted her for a single fight for this or the previous spire, and I'd assume the devs will keep up with the shield hate on some the spire fights since it's as you say, Daphne overpowers through almost any gimmick with her insane shieldsI'd recommend newer players to pick Emily over Daphne, especially since Emily can also work as a lead unit (and for that anon specifically because he has xxaiko, Emily works great with her)
>>1117175Pretty sure Emily isn't in the new player selector. Only characters that were in the game early last year when the selector was added are in the selector pool afaik. Out of these only daphne and lulu are real choices.
>>1117238Oh, interesting, I thought they would keep updating it like recruitmentIf that's the case then yeah, I guess daph and lulu are still the only good choices
They need to buff the points you earn at the event, as it is i would need 5K points everyday and Im getting 266 per 30 energy at 60%
>>1117864farming this event sucks, 70% bonus on 45 stam stage is only 454 pointsand I can only do it with Satan lead + garbage that takes 28 turns at the time
>>1117964Iblis has been doing some heavy lifting, but I do have her pretty built. Can't wait to get the last liberate so she can just one shot everything by herself.
This is a long shot but does anyone know if there's any way to clear a saved team completely? As in, put it back to being blank? The button at the top only lets you name the team.
>>1119020Not that I know of. We're stuck with non empty teams.
Liberate 3 maxed Iblis is a riot and a half, turn 3 and 4 double nuking. Turn 3 nuke is obviously not as strong but the turn 4 sync nuke hits like a train.
>>1119492Beautiful. Nice support team too.>>1115986Some cool art posted on twitter. No giveaway code to go with it, sadly.
>>1117864>>1117964I spent well over a multie's worth of refreshes counting potions at 70% and I'm only a bit more than half way to the unit.
I've done 2/3 if the new missions.Satan is a pretty straightforward fight, just watch out for her counters.Baal is pretty similar but try to kill her quickly because the slimes will all self destruct when she dies. I think they'll do more damage based on how much HP they've regenerated. Look out for her Ult debuffs if you're planning a burst. I haven't worked out the Iblis/Lulu/Lulu one yet.
>>1120730Use 5 attackers and keep attacking the Lulu with full HP.
>>1120733Nailed it, thanks. Impressed with myself for getting DD Lana to do actual damage with her ult despite the 500% attack reduction debuff.
Now that I think of it. What the hell is a trigger ability, got this TM Minayomi and it seems her kit is all about buffing them
>>1121540It's an ambiguous mechanic and they arbitrarily just consider trigger attacks. The Chinese skil descriptions specifically and explicitly state which attacks are triggers but the EN descriptions are ambiguous. Triggers are also considered as ultimate damage but ultimates are not triggers.Just a few semi recent trigger units that come to mind are NY Salucia, Halloween Leona, bride Iblis, Qixi Asida's extra add on, summer Noel's heal portion, summer KS.
>>1121568Well that's inconvenient. Damn, I don't seem to have any of those and just two Minayomis don't seem to be enough
>>1121581I forgot, Minayomi's add on attacks she provides to the party if she's on leader position are also considered triggers.Once upon a time and for a brief period, her lead was considered strongest but she's really fallen off quite hard nowadays. There are still spots where she can still be decent as a solo DPS unit like with the recent Christmas Aiko.
Does anyone know of a resource for finding out how increasing bonds affects each unit's moves? Specially, who gets CD decreases like Daphne.I have one of each valentine girl from the banner and wonder who's most valuable to bond II. My roster is pretty full so I'm not looking for a specific use. Will probably just go for my favourite.
>>1121832I do not know of any resource other than search function on dickswordSweet Cocoa Ba'alFree Valentine's Chocolate~Increase all other allies' Attack Power by 20% of your Attack Power for 1 turn. Increase the target's Damage Taken by [15/15/22.5/22.5/30]% (Max [3/3/2/2/2] Stacks). Every 3 turns, heal the party every turn for [96/110/123/137/150]% of your Attack Power. [CD:4]Pure Cocoa IblisSickly SweetIncrease all Light allies' Attack Power by [20/20/20/30/40]% of your own Attack Power for 1 turn. Increase the 5th-position ally's Attack Power by [30/35/40/40/40]% of your own Attack Power for 1 turn. [CD:4]Killer Cocoa SatanMaidfu - Light BlastIncrease the target's Damage Taken by [10/10/12.5/12.5/15]% (Max 2 Stacks). Gain a stack of "Deadly Scent" (Max 9 Stacks). Gain the following effect for 4 turns: "on Basic Attack, damage the target for [30/50/70/90/110]% Attack Power." Damage the target for [215/238/261/284/307]% Attack Power. [CD:4]B2 doesn't seem great for any of themBa'al B3 seems the most significant
>>1114867FYI, Satan 4* outfit... the tights come off.
>>1122151Most of the 5* are nice.
>>1121624>Once upon a time and for a brief period, her lead was considered strongest but she's really fallen off quite hard nowadays. There are still spots where she can still be decent as a solo DPS unit like with the recent Christmas Aiko.Damn. Ah well guess I'll just have to keep an eye out for some good units that go well with her. Maybe a new one will get released that really helps
Lana, Salucia and Lulu liberationWind team possibly back to their bullshit
>>1122604I'm quite doubtful, since buffing wind units will also affect Christmas Aiko wind/light teams which are really ahead of everything else as far as I know.
>>1122230I like when the 2nd outfit also has a noticeable change instead of just being a recolor of the 1st oneBut damn... too bad satan fucking sucks.. I rolled ba'al and want to pick iblis to build some fun comps, but this is honestly making me reconsider...
>>1122793Domesticated buffed dumptruck waifu-maid Satan also has me acting unwise (already upped to 4* and probably going to 5*, but I really don't need her to play)
>>1122795Same, but with Iblis. Baal is the most logical 5* but before I knew it I already bought all the essences I needed. Worst part is I don't even have enough Flawless Spirits when I have everything else.
>>1122671The new bosses added to the current tower were clearly made punish Ceasar teams, so I would imagine that they would make Lulu/Salucia crazy to further disincentivize spamming Ceasar for everything.AlsoThis really doesn't bring hopes that they finally fix the Android problems.
>>1123345Besides 61, I don't think it's punishing Caesar but more of the bar is just higher with 62's retarded mechanic. I know a pretty big whale who still got stuck on it because he didn't build Christmas while randoms who have a decently built Christmas team including me got through it in a few tries.More than Caesar, I think old debuffers are the ones taking the hit because it's Christmas Shizuka and Usagi's mass debuffs that are really the keys that make 62 easy.But we'll see. I won't complain if they make Lulu on par with current BIS healers
>>1123442I don't have high enough bonds/spread my resources out too thin for 61+ Spire, but 50 wants you to not use an obstructor in order to 3* it, 55 stars an water enemy that, at least, will do a turn 2 super attack on slot 1 that will one shot her if she's not guarding, and 60 has an attack that scales off of slot 1's Max HP, which seems to be talor made to abuse the fact that Ceasar's leaderskill inflates her own HP.
>>112368250/61 is, yeah. It's an obstucter block.55/62 is just a "wake up, don't auto" thing. She only does that once on turn 2 and never again. Your girl on slot 5 takes more heat than your leader 60/63 I guess, but it's taunt-able with Qixi teins being great for Caesar anyway. Not as straightforward as before but there's ways around it unlike how bride Baal is just completely shut down in some battles.
What are the best pieces for a SNoelle team?
>>1124494Usagi and NY Salucia. Usagi generally decent DPS with basic support and Salucia for ults instead and also boosts Noel's healing because those count as triggers.For DPS, the obvious Caesar. If you have Usagi, valentine Satan I heard can theoretically be stronger than Caesar. SKS is also pretty strong especially if you have Salucia also boosting her triggers on top of her own personal trigger support.You can also use tanks and healers as needed at the cost of a pretty decent dip in DPS.
>>1124503>Salucia boosts healingFirst time i hear that. Does it also boost shield?
>>1124513It's because apparently Noel's heal is counted as a trigger, and triggers are a subset of ultimates. Unsurprisingly, once again, Salucia's ult boost is on her 5* and she's only really used for Noel.I'm not sure about shields.
Man, trying to think of an optimal team is some shit. So many buffs and requirements to think about.
>>1125193I let this thread make my first team and I have been rising characters that are hot since. Only really missing out on time rift, but it's probably because I never really attempted it and no other reason.
>>1125198Victory is fleeting. H scenes are forever.Also Elizabeth a cute. I want to deliberately provoke her.
I got a Leader tag in recruit, do I get bond 3 for my 5 star Bloom or my first Emily?
>>1125563I'd say daphne since you're already so invested in her, and her bond 3 is a great boost.
>>1125563If you have Christmas Aiko or Qixi Asida, I would say Emily.Daphne 5* is pretty meh. Most of the ult cycles are turn 4 meaning you either only use her pssive 1/2 times or you're delaying your rotations just to accomodate her. If you have a working bride Satan team then you can probably get to use her much more reliably.
>>1125628>>1125654I went with Emily after looking at my other units.I will never crawl out of the coin hell
>>1125198I'm just trying to at least 1 star event Baal stage for the key but she hits hard and I dunno if it's worth trying to raise a SR healer like Fiora to help Shiro. I might just die to the slimes and ramp up anyway
>>1125198outside of SP, time rift isn't about having the most op teams, but about having 4 reasonable ones. Most of the time rift stages are just copy paste from old tower of event challange stages.Until like time rift 5 you can make do with 1-2 strong units per team and the rest being filler/empty.
>>1125654>cycles are turn 4 meaning you either only use her pssive 1/2 times or you're delaying your rotations just to accomodate her.It actually works to her benefit, because the shields she drops from her ult lasts 2 turns instead of one. So you can drop her ult the turn before, and she'll still have the turn after to help double up with her next basic.
>>1125858What do you mean? I don't follow.Her 5* passive gives a 50% ult boost to the party for 2 turns every 6 turns but most of the standard DPS cooldowns are 4 so they can only use it every other time it procs or if you delay.
>>1125866In all honesty, I was at work, so I misread you, so I thought you were against Bond 3 Daphne, like what Anon was asking, instead of getting her to 5* (While getting her to bond 3 is important, as IIRC, that lowers her cool down, I think it's generally better to get another unit, especially one as good as Emily. And generally yeah, most of the units' 5 stars rather lackluster until the first Summer/Halloween units came out.)
Only just noticed this, was too distracted with liberation news.I'll be glad of an evolution stone influx, I'm running so low and my bond III new Iblis is hungry.
>>1125960Ah yeah. But even then, I don't think Daphne bond 3 is that important nowadays especially since everyone can get a freebie valentine Baal and using Aiko with her is just redundant. Daphne is also in the same weird spot Iris had where she's great if she works but the devs just randomly decides that she just doesn't work for some fights.
Still offline, right? Not just me.
>>1127289I got the update but the server is still down
game is up but some characters got deleted
>chapter 21 is more of the whiny bitch's storySomeone tell me when her story is finally done please.
>>1127453Agreed, I don't even know what their obsession with shilling Ayane is, she's not even good gameplay wise, also Muila and Uruta got a one and done chapter each, just like the previous eternal units, so I don't understand the special treatment>when her story is finally doneUnfortunately, with how the chapter ended, she probably be in the next one as well.
Not sure about Lana, but Salucia's buffs looks like they're gonna be crazy (at least based on her Lib 1). Lulu seems quite mid, especially in comparison (a slight increase on how much AP she gives, and more healing).
>>1128129From what I hear, Lana is still pretty much the same; still terrible.Lulu is updated to be a normal healer and just gets wind debuffs.Salucia gets the Iblis treatment and is the clear winner this batch by a long shot. Pretty much can be used in the old Loli Salucia, Aiko 2022 or Wonderland.
Trying to figure out who I should 5* next (Although, honestly, I should probably just try to get a whole rank up my 3s to 4s). How does Bridal Ba'al's work?Is it1 -> 3 -> 4 -> 6 -> 7 -> 8Or1 -> 3 -> 5 -> 8
>>1128306I just asked DiscordLeader skill: party wide hp +20%, ap +50%, ba +50%, self additional ap+50%new passive 1:on ult, apply all enemies!!! vd 12.5% (2 stacks)on ult, apply target enemy to take additional damage from basic attacks by 35% (2 stacks)new passive 2:party attack power up 25%on first turn, trigger: lower self ult CD by 6 turns (i.e. she can cast her ult right away)
>>1129238It says every other turn, so the first. Bride Baal is still strong, but she's not the goat anymore.>>1129285Yeah, she can replace bride Baal or halloween Lotiya for Wonderland or just a debuffer for Christmas 2022. Best of the batch by far.
>>1129296>Bride Baal is still strong, but she's not the goat anymore.I'm guessing Emily is the new go to, especially with the new Iblis?
>>1129500Halloween Lotiya for general use. Emily for more specific cases like liberated Iblis, Asida, Christmas Aiko. Bride Baal is still strong though if you have a team that can make her work like Valentine Baal/NYLana/Bride Baal whale build.
Man I just can't deal with spire 55 when i managed to beat it up to 61 last season. Is there some trick to it I'm not seeing or did they just toughen up the spire to reward whales/fuck over f2poors?
>>1131086Guard leader on turn 2Try to use basic attack focused buffs, debuffs, and units. Usagi 5* and Christmas Shizuka in particular are very good since their respective debuffs affect the whole enemy party and activate at the start of ewch turn without having to perform any actions. Halloween Lotiya's def shred every 4 turns also affects all enemies.Trap has hp locks every 20%, the only time he does not use a shield on jew is when he hits HP locks. Either have basics strong enough to take trap to hp locks and unload ults on jew or just have basics strong enough to do the job by itself. You have to kill trap first.
>>1131086>>1131105She also paralyzes your units on 1st, 3rd, and 5th on fixed turns that I forgot. If you managed to get paralysis immune units from potential 12,ight be worth looking into fielding them.
>>1131086on 2 you have to guard 1st or they dieon 4 she nukes 1 and 5, but you don't have to guard iton 6 she paralyses 1 3 5, you have to ult turn before to dodge iton 8 she removes debuffs from herself and the trapon 10 she paralyses 1 3 5 again, have to ult before12 she nukes 3 4 5 but no need to guard14 and past she just burns you down so if you don't have dps, you losehit her when she's not shielded, hit the trap when she is, try to kill the trap 1st because she does nothing on the following turn, if you don't kill her after that, she will wipe youI got 2 stars with pic related, so I don't think it's tuned for whales.
>>1131105>You have to kill trap first.You get a turn or two to finish trap if you kill jew first pretty sure. At least I remember killing fox first on my run.
How come nobody in this game can have any body hair apart from Satan's cloven hoof lookin ass leg?
>>1132943Because it's disgusting.
>>1134628Pubes are fine, it's all the other body hair you degenerates usually want that's disgusting.
>>1122230>>1122795Props to the absolute genius who thought it'd be cool to do something different for 5* Satan's "battle damage". Dousing her in with thick white "icing" Do Iblis and Ba'al have something similar?
wtf am I actually gay? Why am I reacting to this
>>1135319It's not gay if they have a feminine penis.
>>1135319>>1135466>>1135467ENTEROr is it... be entered???
New announcement is up for next week's update. Feel like it's tailored to me specifically since we're getting another bunnygirl, and Bride Ba'al is getting a reprint (She's one of the 12 characters I'm missing)
Why is tmMinayomi on soul step banner when her whole event re-ran in january..?
>>1136629I imaging increasing her bond is very attractive to newer players who have both her and the new Iblis.
>>1136629They just rerun stuff and it's her turn now. At the very least, they didn't run the soul banner first before the event rerun so at least people weren't baited by the banner.
>>1136622Not really feeling the new bunny. Will have to see what her room theme is.
>>1138351>Lusty BunnyThat's about as far from lusty as you could get.
>>1138351>>1139139From their character summary post earlier:>Lillane, although being a member of the beast race, is an extremely non-threatening rabbit.>She has no combat experience and is easily startled, but still goes through every day in heat.>All the issues and discrimination that arise from being a rabbit makes Lillane, who yearns for pure love, very troubled.>In order to find her true love and experience real romance, Lillane wishes she could act out her passions.The scene preview seems to emphasise her embarrassment and smallness. Fine by me. Won't aim for higher than bond I though.
Water meta time
>>1140823She's basically a water version of fire Lana, right? Boosting the party and absorbing some back?I'm really lacking in water units apart from Summer Iblis so she's not going to do a great deal for me.
Oh so this Bunny girl would go well if I wanna use TM Minoayomi I guess. Don't really have any other unit that buff triggers so I might as well go hard for this event.
Point events hurt my soul. It sucks so much that you can't even get 40% from SRs. Did they forget to give Aiko bonus this time?
>>1141030I know that this game doesn't have the biggest of budgets, and despite being their oldest game, is probably their 3rd most popular game right now, but I wish they would shake things up more. Last time we got anything even remotely unique was the Summer event.
>>1141629The Christmas one where you explore a map was great, surely they can recycle that? (not Christmas just gone, the one before)Popularity events might be out since they get dull with some characters just winning by a landslide every time.
>>1141834>Popularity events might be out since they get dull with some characters just winning by a landslide every time.I'm not sure how it is on social media, but it's quite obvious who is going to win when you put the character that is easily the most popular girl in the game vs. three literal whos getting their first alts. If the devs were at least were even a bit more even handed with the selection, I would imagine that things would've been more varied. Yeah I know Summer Iblis was supposed to be there for the first summer event, but wasn't done in time, but they could of at least had her just play a role in the story without being directly involved with the voting ballot.
I got my regularly scheduled Vietnam flashback seeing this lineup in Time Rift 6.I don't see how it's possible without a 2 turn taunt like original Satan.
>>1142623just nuke anna during first 2 turns
Anyone pushed their new units to 5* yet and want to show off the costume change?
>>1144184I didn't but here they are
>>1144188Are either of them good? Their abilities don't look like anything special.I'll be relieved if they're meh because I'll just tick them both off the list and move on. Luckily I have enough good units with bonuses to not have to level new Lulu up, and I'll get the bunny through points.
>>1144748I believe they are both below average.Bunny can do fine as lead for triggers, but the teamcomp is restrictive and she doesn't break the game.Lulu might be great if they add 1-2 more good water units that play with her, but will they?
Plans 1 I got it with 3 attackers and 2 supports by just mindlessly attacking Lulu unless debuffed to give her shield. Nana auto ends it when shield is gone.Plans 2Ritsuki lead with 4 other 3cd ults. All ults on harpy, all normal attacks on snake, keep guarding until you win when cow is left. Don't debuff their healing.Plans 3I autoed it with Kana Bloom qAsida Minayomi and Usagi, seems like a pretty straightforward dps race. -50% recovery rate on Usagi is probably what did it.
>>1142623>>1142708ENTERThese guys are even worse. It's the only thing I still regularly use Aiko for. Glad I've worked them down to so few turns now.
What's the reward for beating Time Rift SP? Just another Soul or something more?
Glad to finally have Bride Ba'al after so long. She was the only one I didn't get at the time.Great to see Wonderland Chizuru come back as a freebie too. Does mean we're still in a bit of a slump for fresh events though.
Does anyone use Wonderland Chizuru often? She and her cute tummy are in most of my fun teams. Often with Evie so no dedicated healer is needed thanks to each of their passives.
Looks like they might have blocked codes going in the guild message field so here's the new one: nanaisburning
Before today I didn't know bonds fix nonsensical buff order. There is no way I am affording more rolls on this banner either. This boost is so fucking huge tho.
>>1151892That's odd. Got to wonder how much they planned it out. And if it even works the way they say.>>1148462>>1148193Didn't every event use to show total points ranking?>>1146067Doing god's work. I'm 9/9 stars, thank you.
>>1152768It probably works the way it is described and it seems to be 100% deliberate because Usagi has the same raw deal of getting the buff before damage only at B3+ apparently.Not sure how I really feel about it. Game isn't very hard and my B1 Usagi is still the most flexible and reliable attacker, but I now wish the keys unlocked the rooms by giving you the stupid bond.
They are re-writing trigger abilitiesI am sure the mechanic will be clear after the patchThis time for sure
It's it just me or does it look like there isn't a new event starting this week? Looks like it'll just be the Wonderland rerun for a little while...
>get Leader Recovery, Supporter tags for guaranteed EmilyNice now I can use her and chocolate Iblis to super buff my wife since she's light. Altho I already have like 5 other buffers raised, fuck.
>>1156282What is this, Guess Who? (Waifu Edition)>Does she have horns?
>>1050085>tries to appeal to trannies>just give them more reason to kill themselves Sheesh, this why kids are dying at the hands of school shooters you know?
>app not installed as package appears to be invalidGetting this when trying to install the update, how do I fix this? I'm on android 13 3/5/23 security update.
>>1047821I wish I could toss Shikanosuke inside a nuclear reactor
>>1156602Looks like everyone is getting this, looking at the replies to the replies announcement on twitter. They'll probably fix it pretty quickly.
It's back. Now we just need the hero from >>1146067 again for the new stages.
P1She gives you -500% DO and you have to build it back up by attacking her. Just smack her around.She gives a buff that makes so you can guard for ult, but if whole party gets it, she silences you for it. Ults don't accelerate the stage much anyway so can probably just ignore it unless you have decent DO buffs like qAsidaP2Have to get a straight flush before dealing damageYou are given the correct cards on turn 3, 7, 10, 11, 14, it's all spadesGuard with units that got bad cards, I don't know if that matters after you got flush, but I kept doing it for safety.Reasonably invested AOE unit helps clear it in time cuz you do fuckall for 14 turns. I have 3 star Iris at potential 5 and she helped.Bringing more than 1 healer or something like sIblis or Kana leads makes it safer because you might be forced to guard instead of healing and they do deal damagep3Ulting enemies makes them take more damage, aoe ults debuff everyone, I had no issue clearing it in time by going with Ritsuki lead + Iris despite Ritsuki being underleveled and dying instantly. After Lulu is last one standing, stage ends. She has some mechanics but I didn't read them.
I thought tmMinayomi being on soul banner so close to her rerun was funny, but apparently I didn't know what they are capable of.
>>1158490I'm ok with this. Nice if you want more bonds for the freebie you picked up.New Juneau looks nice. Question though... "Season 2"? Who was in season 1?
How energy consuming is being in a guild? I've been putting it off for awhile because there's already a lot of stuff to be done in a day, especially during events.
>>1160332not at all, guild quests overlap dailies and even if you skip one, you will get max contributionguild is mostly a source of free evolution stones from the shop, maybe some demos or a summon if you get lucky + 3 recruits and 1 summon a week if you have ~20 members that are active
>>1160346Thanks. Really helpful.
>>1160349Try to keep at least 300 jades that you get from those quests in case shop decides to give out a free summonIn my experience, only buying things that are discounted is pretty safe
>>1160355I always buy the lowest tier discipline items (the 10 packs) and any discounted mid or high tier ones. Then the daily discounted 14k pennies. I don't think I've ever run out of jade, and always have items to use up discipline points.Incidentally, braid gang rise up for new Britney.
Hmmm damn. Maybe there wasn't a point in investing in Emily when I already invested in choco Iblis since it'll be a while before I can invest in 4 buffers 1 attacker enough that they out damage 2 attackers 3 buffers. And SR Minayomi's good enough to keep using anyway
this might sound gay, but I am a bit disappointed that Juneau seems to have lost her asset judging by the previews
>>1161194Definitely gay but it sounds like she's trying to re-equip the meat staff, if that's any consolation.
How is this lineup? I can probably squeeze all my crystals to get chizuru and have her replace Aiko, but is sakuya mandatory for lead?
>>1162127replace iris with tyrella when you get her as wellas for lead, I think both sakuya and ssr britney are mediocre leaders, you're probably better off rerolling on a new account, lvl 22 isn't a lot of progress anywaysand if you're gonna go the reroll route, you can either do the hard one where you go for bride baal on the soul banner, or go the simple route for Lilaneyou can also just wait for the new units before you reroll
>>1162288>tyrellaIsn't she a single dps unit? She doesn't have the sustain dps like iris at 3*. And her ult only lowers light defense so she is the only one benefitting from it. >rerollBut I like sluts so I don't want to reroll and I will not get chizuru from the event if I reroll.
>>1158490Wish they had waited. I didn't have nearly enough souls for the selector. Went for it anyway and got summer Milae, Not bad I guess since she increases damage taken by triggers. Leader skill doesn't seem better than Lillane's tho.
>>1162403yeah fair, wchiz and sakuya are decent as units so its not bad, you'll get a better leader eventuallytyrella is a single dps unit, but when you get her at bond 5 (which you will eventually either from recruitment or rolling because she is an SR unit), her ult multiplier is 721%, and if you evolve her to 3* she gets a 40% dmg boost every 2 ults if you get her RNG reductionso overall, she is definitely better. Iris can be used in certain situations when the stage requires AoE but almost always go for Tyrella over her
>>1162483Damn now that I see alternate Juneau, she's also a good addition to my team since she buffs 5th position quite a bit while also being an attacker with triggers
>>1163591How are your seeing her? I don't have the update yet.
>>1163704Update downloaded she's in the collection page
>>1163591Yep she helps my damage output quite a bit. Sucks that summer Milae will be on the shelf now, kinda wanted to invest in her but Juneau's much better for me right now
Anyone has a guess on what does "comply with EU regulations" from game news could mean?Is this the end for Halloween units?
>>1164680I think it'll be something about how percentages are displayed for gacha. I remember when Final Fantasy Record Keeper had something like that happen.
Does the new juneau still have her cock in her discipline rooms?
>>1165316She lost her dick but gets it back in her 3rd one
Just started a week ago but I played this game before, quit and forgot my previous account. Anyway what's the meta now? I recall it was summer lulu with healers and Iris to make a stall team that bleeds opponents to death.This is my current team right now and I lucked Juneau and I finally lucked pulled the loli. I was really aiming for lolicia but I don't mind Sakuya since I love sluts.Is this a good lineup for now? Who should I be saving for? I prefer sluts and lolis btw. I am not a whale and I am lazy as fuck so I don't want to reroll for wedding baal.
>>1165431This looks tough to start with. Your best leader is probably new Juneau, stick Tyrella in pos 5, add Sakuya and Aiko, fill it with any light character for the buff for now and see who else you can get in the future.META is rerolling for Elizabeth lead, picking Daphne from selector and running it with Tyrella Minayomi and a wildcard. With BBall being available now and Caesar on the next soul banner, you'd probably want to snag either of them when rerolling since they have been the most effective leaders for ages now.Picture is recent chinese "not-tierlist" for investment priorities. It's decent to get an idea on who to look out for.
I remember playing this like two(?) years ago, I think meta was rolling for Satan and using the uh dragon girl to aoe everything. How's the f2p experience nowadays, looking for some porn gacha to waste some time?
>>1165547>2 years agolol. Let me guess. pcrg or mainstream eos refugee too? >>1165484>rerolling for BBaalStatistically it is impossible with how you can only use the premium premium currency to pull for her. Even if I do finish chapter 2 of the story to get 2 pulls the time it will take to redo all those stages just to reroll for 2 pulls is dumb. I will stick with what I have now and who should I pick from the SSR selector? It is still 3 days before I get it and I am saving my pulls now and my gems are for refreshing stamina to get the janeau dupe. I mean who are in the selector anyway so I can choose for myself who will best be suited with what I have.
>>1165587>Statistically it is impossibleA fresh account has noob pity on the 30th pull, so it makes it a bit easier, though still very time consumingWhat you do is after you finish the first 2 chapters and collect 2 souls, roll 29 times on the regular banners without getting SSR (although I think the mandatory Aiko roll counts as one but I could be wrong, so it's either 28 or 29), and then on the 30th roll you roll on the soul banner and hope you get the 1/3 for bbaal, or the upcoming caesarAnd that anon already answered your other question, pick daphne from the selector
>>1165587>lol. Let me guess. pcrg or mainstream eos refugee too? Yeah, I'm not touching anything crunchyshit ever again.
Is it borked again? I downloaded and installed the update but it keeps saying that there's a new version available and taking me back to the download page...
>>1165916Works on my phone.
Just got away with daylight robbery on the new soul banner. I had both Chizuru and Iblis at 5* / bond IV and wanted to complete them.First 10 pull - IblisSecond 10 pull - ChizuruGuess I'm stopping her. Improving my 4* / bond II Caesar would be nice but it'd be silly to pull again now.
>>1167002Meanwhile I'm here saving souls for 3 months to only get 1 Iblis within 50 pullsI knew I should have skipped but the greed of wanting Caesar bonds got to me.I fucking love gacha
Almost time for a cat nap.
>>1167323If I was at 50 pulls, I couldn't not do another 10 to get the selection ticket. >>1167498What does this mean???Pic: Juneau tummy
>>116865050 is the selection ticket, 60 is pity, I only got 1 Iblis in 50 plus selection ticketSince the pull rate is 3% the average should be 1 SSR in 33 pulls, so getting 2 with 50 is not too badBut you know, after a year of playing this game and almost never getting an SSR with less than 50 pulls on any banner so far, I expected to get luckier on the banner with the highest % rateI saw a dude on the discord post how he got 3 Caesar's in one 10 pull...I complained enough though, I'll just continue tanking the bad luck and hope it turns around soon
>>1168706Kek, that's the perfect memeGood work anon
Has anyone hit the wall on discipline rooms? As in completed them all?At some point you'll be blocked from getting the daily rewards. Guess it's a way of pushing people to pull for new characters.
>>1169633Unless you whale insane amount on fruits you will never have this problem. Getting room 3 w/o aphrodisacs while using T1 toys takes like 3 weeks.
>>1169633>>1169999This is my exact problem. F2P for over a year. This is my last room to complete before I can't discipline anyone. Something like 130 item uses left if I stick to the lowest tier.Hopefully I hit the event reward Juneau before then so that I can keep getting the weekly and monthly rewards.
>>1170604As if by magic, got Britney from a pull ticket. I have a green key too, so I'm set for a while.
How conclude this shit? I've tried attacking, guarding, changing targets, using ults, using all attackers. Can't seem to progress the scenario.
>>1171853ova-1need 5 damage dealersphase 1, guard all, can do it on first turnphase 2, damage Britney to sub 50%, attacking the doll increases her damage takenphase 3, damage Britney with ults 5 times, don't do it instantly, the doll needs to debuff her after phase switchphase 4, damage Britney to sub 50% againphase 5, wastes 1 turn to rob you from 3 star clear, auto ends aftercan always inspect the buffs/debuffs to get a better idea what's going on
Is it possible to increase your conquest level without spending money?
>>1173269I think you get a bit from story progress but only a fixed and small amount.I've never gotten my head around how to read the bonuses for each level. Like is the orange when you get for that level, or what you already have? Also it can say like discipline points plus 5, but a previous level already gave you plus 3 so really it's only another plus 2.
https://www.eng.forum.tenkafuma.com/post/4-24-tenkafuma-update-previewKana rerun incoming. I think it's a shitty point scaling event, but the character is super worth it.Also new spire. Remember to try and get rewards from current one before they are gone.
>>1173338Did you get to 10 just from playing the story? I'm at 5 right now, guess I should play the story.
>>1173742Nope. Spent plenty. Pic related. Pain
Pettanko alert! This is not a drill!Outfit looks a lot like Pulicia's, actually.
Scorpion momo seems like she'd pair well with wonderland lulu in am attack team since lulu's ult makes everyone attack multiple times
No scenes with britney and futa juneau was a massive missed opportunity, I'm disappointed
>>1165375>>1178329Is there a different place you guys are getting the videos? The usual only just posted Juneau 1 & 2 and Brittany 1.
>>1178381I went and got all 3 rooms for britney already, the voice lines implied juneau was the aggressive one so I figured it might actually be a bit different and not just identical to the first room again
I missed Britney altogether, which was a bit annoying. Managed to get Uruta with a leader tag and I'm pretty sure I'm secure Momo before she moves from a dedicated banner to eternal.Is there a resource that tracks when limited units were last rerun? I need original Asida & Asina, and Summer Nana.
>>1180563I don't think there is anything like this unless someone on the chineese side is tracking itand if there is, it's gonna be in the depths of some random discord because almost everything useful related to this game is, unfortunately
>>1178329Just opened Britney room 1. It looks like it'd be so simple to make this into a futa room. God knows why they didn't.
>>1175621Based on room 1, she's gonna be a good one.
Goodness me, doctor Irene looks good. But holy shit, "Tsundere Nurse Caesar" sounds even better. I'm glad more varied characters are getting new versions. It's not Nana/Iblis/Ba'al/Satan again.
>>1178381There's one on Reddit that uploads English scenes.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s6f96ZsdPNmo_JM0b7Kbt7Aw-ljy5WGY6EpVJyAOeAk/htmlview
I'm really confused with this boss. What causes the 6th turn super and what causes the 7th? It's really confusing on when you should be guarding.
Haven't played this is a very long time cause it stopped working on my phone. What is a good team for these characters?
>>1186019With Caesar lead and harvest Fiora as your healer, you can put whoever you like into the team as dps/support and you are gonna do fine.I'd probably experiment with Daphne/WonderlandLulu and SR Minayomi+SR Tyrella cuz they are probably gonna be your highest bond and will end up hitting really hard if you invest in them
>>1186019>>1186554Second, Caesar is highly reliable.I personally really love Evie with her 5* ability healing the party whenever she gets hit.
>>1185165I'm also getting filtered by it. I made some notes:generic damage taken debuffs don't work, Minayomi and co. are useless, need to buff damage output or debuff elemental/ult80% healing reduction, 500% healing over time reduction, makes most healers really badbeaks shields every other turn because fuck youevery 4 turns debuffs 1 unit to cause whole team to get smacked on attack, it's not that bad but you can't heal so better guard with the unitshe starts reducing your healing even more from 4th turn onwards whenever she breaks shieldsheals based on your attackpower every 5 turns, you can only debuff her healing to fight ither ult happens every 4 turns from turn 3, so 7, 11 etcI don't know what makes her do it on 6 sometimes, but I found that guarding with even 1 unit on 6 makes her do first one on 7 insteadIt's a really fucking rough dps race with specific requirements. You can still debuff her elemental damage taken and similar, but she will kill you at around 3rd ult for sure.There is a lot of time left, but I am not sure if I will be able to get through. It's such a shitty fight, my reasonably strong bunny aiko team is too slow and I really don't have any better elemental debuff team to try.
I finally managed to beat 55spire Shiro after I made my post and then stupidly bashed my head against it for [undisclosed] amount of time.Caesar, Usagi, Tyrella, Daphne, Emily.Besides the initial healing debuff, she only debuffs your healing further when she drops below 75% and when you fail to damage her in a turn. That means you need to fucking hit her on her ult turns and you need to either kill her healing or outdamage it.Daphne needs to guard on every turn Shiro breaks shields, it damages you. The only turn Daphne can ult for free is 9th because on 10 she debuffs you to heal her which overrides the shield break. You can also ult before attacking with unit that has damage reflection on because it should chunk the shield enough for it to not kill you, it's not super safe, but it pushes damage so might be worth if you have some health to spare.I used Emily on 5 to heal because she heals by 100% of her attack every turn with ult and buffs the team on top of it which is better contribution than every other healer I have built. With Caesar lead she also keeps the elemental debuff going forever.Usagi is to stack -healing debuff and her Basic Attack amp actually works on the boss.Tyrella can be w/e dps. Her shred probably helped Usagi, but if I had bBall or someone equally powerful built, I probably would use them instead.This has to be the biggest piece of shit fight they have ever made.
>>1187365Funny enough, I did it a little while after my post too, I used this team. I haven't tried floor 60 yet, but 55 has definitely been the most horrifically overturned boss since Elizabeth. It's honestly not that fun when so many of your options get cut off.
Is there a trick to spire 45 Caesar's turn 8 AOE other than having enough HP to tank it? My 2.7M HP characters survive but not the 2.5M.I suspect it's something to do with the turn 1 "Lonely Trial". I've tried only attacking with this character but the damage rate doesn't seem to change. Checking status doesn't explain anything, as far as I can understand it.
>>118769960 is such a joke in comparison, she lets your whole team ult every turn, you can probably auto it with most teams that have enough health to get hit once.>>1187892The buff you get gives 100% more attack power but 30% more damage taken, you can manipulate who gets it by attacking with only 1 character on the first turn.I don't think there are any tricks here. She gets extra attacks after you push her hp thresholds and she has scheduled nukes that rotate roughly every 2 turns, pos 1 then 3 then 5 so you probably don't want to put the buff on those positions and putting tankier characters there might help.I remember having to chill out with attacking her and just guarding and recovering mid fight because otherwise too much bullshit overlaps. Especially around hitting her down to 25%, she does an extra nuke on 3 and 5 and then gets her final extra attack.It's a kinda fat stat check because it used to be final floor last season.
>>1187914Thanks for the help on Caesar. Unfortunately I couldn't get it to work so I swapped my Xmas Chizuka for Usagi (2.5m vs 3.1m HP) and put Lulu up to potential 11 to put her health higher too. And it worked.Is this the power they call brute force?
>>1188056>Is this the power they call brute force?that may be it, but also I forgot that Caesar heals to full mid fight and Usagi is -50% healing, so she probably helped you with damage a lot as wellcome to think of it, almost every time I am struggling I put Usagi back on the team, starting to think that she wasn't lying when she called herself the strongest archdemongood luck with Shiro btw
>>1188065Got her pretty quickly, thanks to the advice above.
Any first impressions on the new units? Irene seems quite mid comparing to the past few units we've gotten, Irene seems quite mid compared to other recent limited healers, and Caesar seems okay for a "Build around" unit, but that defiantly falls on how good her stats are.
>>1188943Nurse Caesar looks hard to build around. Her debuffs will stack up to quite high damage, but it's slow and running only healers and supporters otherwise could be rough. Being 100% focused on ult also means you badly want her bonds. I probably would not bother unless you can afford dumping everything into this banner right before the summer event and also have units like summer Lulu that would push the support/healer composition to be actually decent.I also don't think she's meant to function off leader.Irene, true to her original, seems quite strong as a healer. Shield on guard while half of her heal is over time looks really good as well and will make you quite resilient in a lot of fights.Applying aoe ult vulnerability that stacks to 40% has potential to be very strong in some comps, but also limits the pool of characters that you'd want to run with her. I'd say other healers tend to be more versatile with their buffs, but this might end up having higher ceiling and aoe component is also not useless.She also seems like an ok leader if you have a heavily invested ult spamming character like Geneva.But she really, really needs her 5 star skill to do any of that shit. The event hands out a bunch of shards for her so they might be worth investing stamina for if you think she looks cool.I'd say that banner is a trap, but dumping a lot of stamina into the event is a decent investment.
Do Caesar's passives not work when you use more than 2 supporters/healers?
PSASummer Milae comes with a viel and womb tattoo. Wish I'd known sooner. Spend your memory crystals wisely. Also all zips open as standard.
This was my second 10-pull on the current banner. Am I the luckiest boy?
>>1189668now you get to see all of the NTR rooms for FREE
>>1187365I found this team worked well for meRegular iblis self heals and although fiora's heal over time is weak, her ult reduces cd of the party by 1 which helps with damageThe real healing is done by evie
What do I do with these?
>>1190185bro you're supposed to trade those in for money
>>1190185the arrows on the left side on the main screen give you access to dispatches and alchemyalchemy tab should have trade orders for those, they sell for silver coins, slowly
>>1190190But it just keeps generating more. I have overr three hundred of each, I can't trade in for money without generating more than I trade in.
>>1190220Bruh literally how? A new request for anywhere between 2 and 10 should appear every two hours. I'd be staggered if you're out-producing these unless you're skipping the requests, or you're some ludicrous Conquest level to hyperspeed your production.
>>1190224I take long breaks because android updates keep making the game unplayable
>>1190220>>1190225if you take breaks, then catching up will take a while because you produce only slightly less than you can trade in and rising conquest level speeds up bothjust sit on your unclaimed pile of wealth, getting fomo'd by tradepost would be silly
>entire event dedicated to juneau getting her cock back>britney even has yuri with her>not a single discipline room scene between the two of them where juneau uses her dick on a woman, 0 out of fucking 6>>1190185Do you not see the giant trade goods bar right beneath it?
>>1190268see>>1190220>>1190225I was wondering if I could trade in bulk.
>>11897465* Evie is one of my very favourite units. Her healing is far better than it has any right to be. Underboob and squishy armpit don't hurt either.
Tip for the new 3rd special stage (Caesar).You can restart the fight until she targets the flu on your guardian. 1/5 chance, I guess.A guardian's attack putting them in guard stance doesn't seem to trigger the flu effect and Caesar's aggro moving on like regular guarding would.
So what's the go to Ceasar team?
Is it worth investing in lower rarity characters just for expedition bonuses?
>>1195439I only bothered with rising a bunch of them to 35 to match the pretty frequent bonus requirement. I think that was worth it. I would probably get couple of potential levels for the skills at least if I had any resources to spare, but the game never leaves me with any.>>1195366Do you mean running the team with Caesar/Nurse or trying to beat the event?
>every single stage that's hard enough to actually warrant a shield has something like a "shield is 90% less effective" permanent debuffSucks how daphne is actually a bottom tier character due to the fact that any fight she's actually needed in is tuned specifically to keep her out
>>1195511I wish hard counters to good units like this stayed in Spire where you have weeks to build up new characters to try and get past the stages that target your shit.Current event challenge mode fucking sucks and I feel that they know it does because they usually open them in the last week, and this one has been up super early.
>>1195451Team focused around ceasar
>>1195713The thing about Caesar is that her leader skill doesn't force any funny team compositions and her solo damage ceiling is very high, so you can run her with whoever you like and get really good results.The best team that I can think of that pushes her damage without getting suicidal is probably Caesar, vBall, Emily, xShizuka, qAsida.
>>1195853Sorry i meant nurse ceasar.
>>1195858Nurse's best team is probably sitting her as lead, + 2 supports, 1 healer and 1 VD attacker with at least 2 characters besides her.First thing I'd try is probably something like Nurse, Kana/Irene, Emily, xShizuka and Daphne, but I have no way to test it since I can't afford to roll this banner.
>>1195862at least 2 *dark characters besides hershe needs 3 dark total for the leader buff
I just started the game and got both of the nurse characters with the first 10 roll.I'm guessing i got really lucky?
>>1195874rate is 1.2%, reasonably fortunate to get 2 characters you don't have in a 10 roll
>>1195511>>1195695At least when it was Satan/Iris and Summer Lulu, boss stages designed around them were gone after they fully got powercrept, but the problem with Daphne is that she's practically immune to it. So we get problems where the devs give every boss tons of shield hate until they forget about her existence again. It seems like the devs backed off doing the PvP gamemode, but I wonder how would a combat rework would be received in order to restructure the game so they don't have basically disable entire game mechanics in order to make difficult content.
Any guesses for who'll get summer alts this year? Satan and Ba'al would be the obvious choice since Iblis has hers.Personally, I'd really like to see summer alts of Fufu (overheating panting dog), Mesmiia (lizard basking in the sun), or maybe even Karina (JO crystal charging).
>>1197289Iblis summer alt alt
>>1197289My guesses would be Daphne Bloom: Easily the most popular character without have an alt yet. (At least I think so, I haven't seen any popularity polls, so I don't know who anyone that isn't Iblis really stands)Ayane: I haven't kept up with the story in a long while, but I heard the devs were pushing her really hard, so it would make sense to properly test her popularity with a big time summer unitChizuru: The demonite step-up banner that's available currentpy has KS-VIII, who was part of the year one summer units, and Miale, who was part of the year two units, so me probably seeing a patter where there is none. And my wildcard is one or both of the V-Tubers: seeing as they seem to be more than happy with their likeness being used whenever they want.Due to the fact that summer seems to be the only time they put effort into an event these days, I imagine that it's probably going to be filled with "Safe" choices, which means decently popular characters that have at least made a cameo in multiple events.
>>1197289>>1197685>>1198932Fiora is in. Looks like the ocean was cold.Three more to come, I think they normally announce 1 a day.
>>1199849>Light Healer>When the previous Fiora unit is not only the exact same element and role, but is still more than usable to this dayI expect her to be mega busted. So far we're 2 for 2 when it comes to a Summer unit being one of the best units in the game (or at least until they got nerfed in Noel's case).
I've finally guessed one right. Disappointing that it's all common characters. No first alts yet (maybe there's hope for #4?)