Submarines and their homing torpedoes have been a disaster for World of "Warships".
Submarines are annoying and easy to play (which I myself can confirm). But you can't say they are op based off of OP's picrel. It just shows that this particular player for some reason can play submarines way WAY better than he can other classes. I can also interpret this player's stats like that:As you probably know, a ship's influence on a battle is strongly dictated by its class. From my experience, the most impactful to the least impactful classes are:>CV>Gunboat DD>Torp DD>CL (both Radar and non-radar)>Radar CA>BB>CAI dont know where to put submarines yet.For example, a better than average player playing CV is going to have 60% WR while a bad player is going to have 40% WRsame goes with>gunbote dd - 56 /44>torp dd - 54 / 46>cl - 53/ 47>ca/bb- 52/48The more impactful a class- the more WR discrepancy Looking at the OP's player's stats, I can see this player shows significantly lower WR with more impactful classes. With that in mind, I can say that the Submarine Class has a negative impact on the battle, meaning if I wanted to add it to the list above it would be >SS - 48/52It doesnt make sense. Or does it? Are submarines useless and its better to suck at the game while playing them? Maybe?
I have accomplished my only goal when I started last week,Is the game worth playing or is it not worth it nowadays?
>>919132its the only game I play
>>919132As a newfag who got into it with last year's Azur Lane collab, I'm still having fun.
I just got killed because the homing torpedoes ignored the fact that I've just DCPd
Any keeper at tier 9 other than Kitakaze?
Should I bother with tier 9+? Seems like a money sink to me unless you have premium or really good at the game.
>>919269Also, I mostly played ships that existed.
>>919269>Seems like a money sink to me unless you have premium or really good at the game.so this is the post-economic rework wows, huh? Sad.Tier 9 isnt that bad when it comes to economics, tier 10 repairs cost much more and tier 11 is specifically designed to eat credits. (so boomers will buy them for $$$). Tier 9 premium ships are great for making money, and you can buy them for coal in the armory. I hope you are taking the coal containers instead of the "try your luck" ones. Azuma will soon be aviable for coal and she's a great farming ship. Its squishy and you cant ever show broadside in her, but the damage output is high, which allows you to earn a lot of money with her. But if you are having fun in tier 8 then there isnt much reason to progress honestly, unless you want to play a specific ship from higher tiers. I like T8 the most, its not overly competetive like T10 and there are a lot of good players there unlike in the lower tiers.Also contrary to newbies' believes, higher tier doesnt "unleash" your true hidden potential, its always harder to play the higher you go.
>18in sap>1.8 sigma>8 guns
>>920690is that good? they only SAP ship I've ever played was austin
How barebone will my ship collection be if I only intend to play ships that actually existed? And how many tier 10 are actually real?
>>921226To elaborate, I'm not a purist or hate paper ships, It's just that I don't play that much anymore so I want to put up some realistic goal.
>>921245Hover your mouse above the ship icon in the tech tree. If it says "Entered service: [year]" then it's real. If it says "year of design" it's crackpipe ship.
>>921226>And how many tier 10 are actually real?How do you qualify real? If you mean constructed to completion then you have;Vampire II, Halland, Småland, Colbert, Daring, Audacious (kinda but basically yes), Gearing, Somers, Forrest Sherman, Worcester, Des Moines, Salem, Midway, F. D. Roosevelt, Yueyang, Shimakaze, Yamato, Attilio Regolo and every tier X submarine currently available.
>>922536>Audacious (kinda but basically yes)can you elaborate?
>>922611HMS Audacious was laid down on 24th October 1942, because of construction priorities and distribution of resources during that phase of the War, construction of Audacious and two of her three sisters, Irresistible and Eagle was slowed enormously. None were complete by the end of the War and on 21st December 1945, Eagle was cancelled. Construction on Audacious and Irresistable was suspended for a period with their construction eventually being continued with Audacious being renamed Eagle and Irresistable being renamed Ark Royal (and completed to a slightly altered design). Audacious at tier X and the supership Eagle are the same ship at different points in time.
>>922684>Audacious at tier X and the supership Eagle are the same ship at different points in time.wow thats really cool
>>922688Also related but just as an aside, my Grandfather served on HMS Eagle for a time (amongst other ships including HMS Vanguard which was his first ship) and although I can't lay my hands on it right now, I do have one of her commissioning books from his time on her.
>>920690>18in sapThat's gotta hurt.
>>920690another CL annihilatorcan they give this class a break? I love playing light cruisers but it feels like every single other ship class counters them>Destroyers? They outspot you and they can torp your smoke/ islandyes you are their biggest fear but so is every other ship less than 10km from them>Other cruisers? They fullpen you with AP and dont shatter their HE on you, also good luck predicting where will that kiting cruiser be in 15 seconds (thats how long it takes for jinan's shells to reach max distance)>Battleships?over. match.soon 457 overmatch with no overpen>CVs?It can still strike you at least once before you kill the squadron>Subs?lmao good luck killing that with your ship-based ASW
>>923362>sap citadels lel
>>923362Those turrets are fucking ugly.
>>922536Around 20 ships but mostly destroyers. Not bad I guess.
Is it too late to get in to this game? What do I need?
Man, I remember when Belfast was good for brawls, but it gets its shit stomped nowadays. Only really works in a team context with spotting and zoning now.
>>923940You need $15.For 30 days of premium time and for the battle pass. Just make sure you have enough time to complete the pass before buying it.And I'd suggest buying both these things only after you reach tier V, mainly because you cant complete the pass with the lower tiers since the missions for it are tier V-XI only.Also you need patience.I remember it took me 2k games to get to my first tier X ship, now im at 4k games and I've got 16 of them.
>>923971I got the Arizona from code. Did I do good or?
>>923972from what code?also what is the highest tier you've reached on a tech tree?
>>923974Invite code PEARLHARBORAZ1941I just started playing.
>>923975dont play the ship yet you need to learn how to play with the lower tiers which are essentially tutorial tiers (almost nobody plays them)
>>923976genrally the rule is to never play a premium ship of a tier you've never reached in a tech treeEven when you reach tier VI and you play the Arizona dont expect to be good at it.It takes a lot of game knowledge to be good at this game and its not a thing you can acquire quickly.Just play how you feel like until tier V and then maybe watch some tutorials. The best advice I'd give to new players on how to play is:do. not. push sometimes it is good to push but most of the times its just suicidealsodo not show your broadside to the enemy its also suicidejust dont die, ok?
>>923979aaaaallllsooooyou dont have to be good at the game to be "good" at the gamethe thing is- 60% of all players (even at higher tiers) have no fucking clue whats going on, they cant just cant play the game
>>919132I understand that her name's Fubuki but do you really play tier 6?Anyway, who should I buy?
Hmm, I think I'll get her for my Graf Spee.
Got a rental Friesland and it's pretty good. Is there still any way to get this ship?
>>924609groningen is the exact same ship and its for 1kk freexp soon for coal
>>924705>soon for coalI just bought a ship!
>new graphix updateMy poor potato...
Daring or Harugumo first?
I love this event
>>926057I'd say harugumo because of the KitakazeBut daring overall
Guess the server.
>>926191Yeah, Darling looks good. Bonus point for real ship.
>>926194Got double tier 8 CVs and double SS btw. I'm moving to NA now, fuck this server and their CVphile.
>a stray shell hit to the side>half HP goneHow do I Belfast?
>>926194is that photoshop? CIS?>>926217>how do I [insert a light cruiser]your main priority is to surviveuse islands, smokes, limited vision of the enemydont open water its suicideyou need a fuckton of patience to do any damagelook for windows of opportunity and use that bullshit DPM of yours (not in yodo lol)almost all cruisers are both full HP and sunk at the same time, its just how it is
I give up, light cruisers are hard. I'll just stick with heavy cruisers
This ship is so fun. I think I'll buy Groningen.
>>926940It's a great gunbote and I like it very much but the lack of torps makes you an easy target for other hydro ships, especially the germans.
>>926745>>926760I want another arpeggio collab so I can get takao weegee pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Saipan or Hornet?
>>927004vcoomers bring more money
>>927031branch and rope
>>927093Forgive me, but I tired of getting shit on by carrier. I'm now want to shit on other people too.Which is the best tier 8 carrier?
>>927031saipan I havent played but from all the videos I've seen its a pretty solid cvits gimmick is that it is the opposite of Kaga-instead of lots of low tier planes it has fewer but higher tier onesoverall a good ship(planes)as for hornet... I've played a lot of hornet recently and its just painfulawfully slow planes (B25s go only 13knts faster than halland torps)torpedoes have 8 planes in a squadron and the attack size is 4, meaning you'll never strike for the second time with 4 planes again which sucksthe arming distance of the torpedoes themselves is godlike, they are great for hunting ddsas for the ap dive bombers they SUCKsquadron is 10 planes and the attacking size is 5 it SUCKS even more than the torpedoes sine bombers dont have healaverage drop damage is ~5k, painfully small considering they are AP so they dont start firesand you cant just drop someone 2nd time because of the 10/5 squadronas for the B25s... pure rngyou can drop for 1k and do 0 fires you can drop for 25k and do 3 fires (it happens more often than 10k ap drops lol)but they are SLOW108 fucking knotsso slow that by the time you get to the enemy, they are almost ready again and they dont have fighersyeah you got only 6 fighters total, combined with slow plane speed hornet is awful for spottingalso no armored deck weak AAI still like her <3
>>927131Kaga. Not that hard to play just be wary of high tier AA and flak.The torpedoes alone are worth more than the entirety of the Hornet.Dont use the rockets tho they suck
>play ranked>before the game even starts smaland asks if anyone too is on a lose streak>I act nice, tell him that I am not on a lose streak>Tell him if he is losing many games in a row he shouldnt play anymore today since he is probably tired (he took that as an insult)>he dies in the 1st 3 minutes of the game>I type "you are clearly tired stop palying, for your own good"And for some fucking reason he got angry. >Tell him maybe he is the reason of his lose streak He gets even angrier, claims it was my flanks fault he died (he was east we were west, totally unrealated )He accuses us of camping (camping = not dying like an idiot(I was playinh austin am I supposed to be pushing?)) and he cries for the rest of the gameofc his profile is privateIM SO PISSED WHY DO PLAYERS LIKE THIS EXISTJUST ADMIT YOU SUCK AT THE GAMEY O U are the reason you lose gamesNO you are not unlucky for having 45% WR after 4k games, you just SUCK
Main battery and AA expert(+20% firing range) on Friesland or not? I know it's good on Sherman but how's it on Friesland?
>>928137Since the AA on firesland is good it is a good idea to boost it even more. But the shell arcs suck. Good luck hitting anything at the max range.I'd say no dont take it
>>927131Pobeda, others dont even come close to her>>923430Yep, this is how new wows is played. Light cruisers are high risk low reward. Your ingame performance is tied to how many sky cancer hybrids infest that match that day in addition to the cv.>>923940Dont get into the game, game is shit and will get shitter. If you decide to get into the game dont push at the start, push when enemy has lower number of ships at that side , dont stay at max range with full hp.>>927072Its probably not money, more like arpeggio is dead franchise and ivan cant get in contact with the ip holders anymore
How do I I-56? It's looks fun but I've never played submarine.
>>928260>Light cruisers are high risk low reward.I think it's more toward RN light cruisers. ?Other nations' CL aren't this bad.
>>928300You're basically the Paolo Emilio of subsYou have 1 tactic that will pretty much neutralize any threat (shotgunning/drive bys) but anyone with a decent amount of in-game knowledge knows how to outplay youYour best bet is to hope the enemy sub is a moron and dies early so they cant spot you, then you just spam long range dumb torps until you find an opening to get close and shotgun someone
>>928309Stuff like wooster, yoda etc are also terrible either because ship sucks or they get perma spotted by sky cancer or subs
What tier 9 coal ship should I get? Friesland is fun, but I already have Sherman which is similar.Azuma is supposed to print money, but I already have Atago.
>>928771Azuma is fine, atago and azuma doesnt play anything remotely similiar. Atago is a well armored ship that has lower range and has to use its concealment to approach the enemy and kite away shooting, meanwhile dropping torps. Azuma has bad armor, stays angled away from the enemy close to its max range and just spams fires. Only when enemy is reduced you can play more aggresive. Both are fun in their own way.
>>928901Azuma isnt tanky on paper, but in practice (at least for me) she's on of the tankiest cruisers I've ever played. A lot of HP, fast cooldown heal, sitting 20 km from everybody. Flamuu told his fans she's not the best so nobody shoots her. I play her with the lighthouse build for that reason, concealment isnt that usefull and the only thing you can contribute to the game is damage. So why not build for it.Also Azuma bow in to the target is suprisingly tanky too. IDK why but she is.picrel my azu on rankedabsolute monster if played right
>58% wr playing a tier 10 sub>rush head first into a cluster of enemy ships and get ASW to death in the first 3 minutesWhat is it about submarines that turn people into a brainless idiots?
>>929711a false sense of security (being underwater)its like the 90% of shima players dying to radar 10 games in a row and still rushing the cap thinking the smoke will save them
I haven't played this game in years. Is it worth coming back to? All i'd probably want to play is subs
>>929101Good stats, she is lot better than yoshino tier for tier. Yeah that fast heal is quiet useful, i like azuma too.>>929141When you have DM there is no reason to play tulsa, if its t9 ranked you should be playing alaska
>>929980eh, subs are boringI like to play them once in a while for a refreshement, but I couldnt imagine maining them
>>929980>All i'd probably want to play is subsYou know they make games for that?
do any of my closed beta friends still play this game
>>928901So there's no point in getting Groningen if I already have Sherman, right?
Sell me on French DDs
>>933122The gameplay is very similar, albeit there are some differences. Friesland is one tier lower which is a plus, friesland is faster and has slighlty better conceal 6.3 vs 6.5 which means you can more easily reposition and catch people in your hydro to play more actively. Sherman may have a bit more trouble to force an engagement. However shermans sap absolutely devastates anything it comes across. Friesland while having fine dpm suffers from low pen. Sherman also has much better shell velocity, making shooting peole at long ranges and engaging enemy dds that wiggle around even more comfortable. Friesland has god tier AA compared to sherman, if cv is playing he will learn to avoid you soon or lose entire squadrons. These are the upsides and downsides. If you dont have azuma or yoshino, get azuma first. ignore yoshino.
>>933208Sherman is also extremely unwieldy, even with hydro you will find yourself eating torps or having extremely close calls
>>933208At the end of the day i think sherman is the superior boat. Sap is just too damn strong and ability to overmatch 32mm is very important
>>933207Anything else? Being fast can only get you so far.
Is Kitakaze really that much of an upgrade over Akizuki? I'll still unlock Harugumo but I don't think I'll be playing it and I only have one IJN gunboat captain so I don't know if I should choose Kitakaze or Akizuki.
>>933318Yes, kita is much much superior to haru and aki. Akis biggest weakness is she handles like an ox. Doesnt accel , doesnt manuever as good as kita. That may not sound that important at first but you will realize how important it is when you dont eat random torps and torpedobeat them all the time. Its extremely important ability in a dd that sits in smoke and doesnt have hydro.
>>933318I frequently reset the kita tech tree to get RB points and griding trough aki takes me a week while griding through kita takes me a day.She is just so much better. I only realized that after playing them both one after another just how painful aki is to play.
[remember to complete the plunder dash mission chain before the new super containers get released]
>>933436I did. I got 50 +40% bonus to credits :(
[remember to uninstall]
>>933451nah im still enjoying the gameI play every class, every subclass, ships with weird gimmicks, sometimes I play low tiers tooHard to get boredIt's the only game I play I dont want to uninstall it
https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/266473-over-600k-players-lost-due-to-submarines-wows-now-has-less-players-than-when-it-launched/I know people have been meming for a long time, but it's actually fucking ogre now. It's time to move on or play warthunder.
>>933840>war thunderits just as bad, but in the complete opposite way
>>927031Hornet is the worst fucking t8 cv in this game. Its so bad that i can assure you it would be more correct to classify it as a t6 cv. Everything about the ship sucks dick.
>>934077can confirmits just plain bad
Gaijin is even more jewish than WG. Can't even use free xp without paying.
>>933840Clearly we need more hybrid ships....Maybe hybrid submarines as well?
>>934020Oh wow, surely this man is a trustworthy source with no biases to speak of
>noo you can't talk bad about wgcope shill
Sorry I don't take listen to people who do nothing but trash talk this game but still play it because they don't have the charisma to keep an audience doing literally anything else
>>934167Flamu is shit, but it isnt even his data he is sharing, what the fuck you are even talking about?
>>934284Any moron can look at a graph and say what they think causes the change in dataAnd the morons here just regurgitate any opinion they hear from other morons
>>934138Post yfw WG finds out about the I-400.
I started using AP when fighting any broadside DDs and it's magical.
>>934327its inevitableI give them a year
>>934327>new arp event>monkeypaw>Iona Tier 11At least I 400 existed. But hybrid subs...bruh.
>>934352>hybrid susbslaunch 3 planes and 9 more appear from they skyI mean Halford works like that its fucking bullshit
>>934352I remember in 2016 the arpeggio event got me into anime
btw what happend to the Iona commander? I remeber you could get her and her ship type was submarineOf course back then submarines werent a thingCan you actually use her as a commander now?
>>934352Nothing is impossible in the realm of wg now, dont be surprised to see cruiser missiles next. I remember the good old days joking about the idea of soviet cvs , wg made them reality.
>>934372As for the cruiser armament I dont think they'll go any further than the Dutch CA airstrike. It kinda works like missles would work. Select and area and wait for the bombs to arrive. If missles worked any different than that were they actually added to the game I would finally quit. If they were to add missles they would have to be different than the dutch airstrike, so guided missles. The true unavoidable damage. It would be too much.
>>934377>so guided missles. The true unavoidable damage.Don't even joke about it.
>>934369Wasn't Iona just a bunch of datamined voicelines?
>>934403you CAN dodge themit takes a lot of effort and/or luck and/or dcp but I cant imagine any ship dodging guided missles going at hundereds of km/hEven non guided would be hard to dodgeLook at what they had to do to the rocket planes, nothing could dodge that shit before the changes
>>934425Is this arpeggio manga or something?>>934377Meant to say cruise missiles. Wg will just make you jam them by using your damage control hahahahah .. ha .. ha
we are already crying about features that werent even announced and may never actually be in the gamethis just shows how bad the state of wows is
>>934471>he doesn't know
>>934471Yeah.Now that I actually think about it, Arpeggio is pretty silly.
>>934490These expressions are erotic.
>>934611child erotic uohhhhhh
>WG think 40mm on Friesland is better than 76mm radar-guided proximity fuse on Sherman
>taking aa values seriously
>what do you mean numbers in config file don't mirror real life???
>the settings reset again for no reasonAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>company that gives identical guns wildly different values for gameplay purposes gives different ships wildly different AA valuesIf they didn't then US battleships would be unapproachable by aircraf-wait
>>935305I've heard that even low tier BBs like Texas were unapproachable for CVs of the same tier. Nowadays AA starts to be a serious threat only at tier 8. When I play tier 6 carriers I just ignore the AA and Flak. Its not like it does anything. But then jump to tier 8 and not dodging three flak clouds deletes your squadron. Its stupid.
>>935689>I've heard that even low tier BBs like Texas were unapproachable for CVs of the same tier.*in the RTS era
>>935689Huanghe is the cv menace of t6, but other than that nope.
What's the catch?
>>935779More morons will press W, suicide and ruing your game
>>935829I'll do that even without Battle On.
>>918336Yo idk World of Warships, but Mordern Warships is like impossible to level up bro, that kind os system sucks lol
>>935779Players'd been requesting this feature for WOT since forever and we got it before them. I guess the catch is you burn through blue economic bonuses at a faster rate without realizing it. But overall a very good change I can actually play my light cruisers now.
What is this?!
>>935943goofy turretsIt just doesnt look good
I don't have enough coal yet, recommend me some good tier 8 premium ships.
Finally unlocked Shimakaze and... this thing is dogshit. It's actually worse even as a torpedo boat than Akizuki and it's line, since it cannot push aggressively and instead must just spam from meme range. Meanwhile, the ubiquity of subs, cvs, and radar punishes its stealth-focus gameplay to the point of memehood. Should have gone for halland.
Where's my fucking supercontainer you cheap jews?
>>936278you are just playing it wrongShima is... fineNot OP but also no badHer guns are decent at dealing with other DDsGood concealmentGodlike torpsGood speedGreat rudder shift and turning radiusSmall hullOf course if you played harugumo or halland or daring instead of shima you would be a much scarier threat most of the time due to the consistency of those ships but shima played right can be scarier than all those ships.Maybe you just arent used to playing torpboats? You can always equip the 20km torps instead of the 12km ones and sit behind your BBs without a care in the world>>936315Is the gift the same for every anniversary year? This summer Ill be having my 7th anniversary am I going to get the same thing as you?
>>936315Supercontainers are supershit, not a huge loss. Buy some good t8 premium ship with the coupon if you want.>>936247atago , cossack, chkalov>>936278You might be brain damaged if you think shima isnt a good torp boat. Are youusing 20km torps like a moron and because of that failing to hit anything? >>936317If you equip 20kms you are a moron that wont hit anything ever, do i even need to explain why?
Halland line is good, right?
>>936336yepits hard to play for newer players thoughbeit because no smoke so mistakes WILL be punished>>936334 >If you equip 20kms you are a moron that wont hit anything ever, do i even need to explain why?yeah the 2.5km torp concealment... of course...But when I first got shima (it was my 1st T10) I was running 20km only and My average damage was ~60k with ~200k damage record so I wouldnt say they are terrible considering I was a terrible new player and I used to die every second game from radar. 12km are of course way much better. What about the F3s? Do you think they are ok to use?
>>936339EU DDs are torpedo boats first and foremost with guns good enough for self defense, right?
>>936344yesfor halland:the guns are good for other thing too like starting fires and finishing off targetsI wouldnt be afraid of using them from time to time to farm some damage especially towards the end of the gamejust make sure there is nobody who can kill you easily nearbythe guns arent that much worse than groningen's gun, and she's a gunbotejust dont think you'll win 1v1 against any gunbote if both of you are 100% HPI mean the guns have to be decent to compensate for the lack of torp dpm
I think I'm addict to DDs now. They're so fun to play.
>>936339F3s are too risky and too inconsistent to play with these days due to the overabundance of cvs, radars, hybrid ships etc. providing less room for dds to maneuver safely without getting spotted.
>>936360It the same for CLs and meI was addicted to gunbote dds at first but they were too consitent for me. I prefer the cruisers' shrodinger health. Both dead and alive at the same time. DDs are too tanky. Doesnt feel right not having a citadel.
>>936370>shrodinger health. Both dead and alive at the same time.That's British CLs
>>936370Just play pan americans, you have citadel so you get nuked but you also can heal that damage.
My problem with CLs is floaty shells at range, and you can't easily get into comfortable range or get out of danger like DDs.
>>936383Austin, smolensk, san martin shell travel time isnt too bad
>>936371what about yodo, smolensk, austin, jinan?you WILL get triple citadeled while angled
>>936445HAHAHHAAH WHATB U N G O>???
>another 30mm overmatchfucking WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>936445Kongo bungo>>936453We are way past the point of complaining about 30mm overmatch with this shit game.
If it is an Amagi line with useful secondaries, I'll start playing again.
Japanese battlecruiser lineI've been waiting for this.
I just hope the new "line" (only 3 ships) wont be IJN CL all over again
Why don’t the early German battle cruisers have torpedos? The hatches for them are modeled on the hull.
>>936647balans, we dont want germans to be too powerful
>Japanese battlecruiser line>the only two real ones aren't being put in it>Tosa still being ignoredI can't believe I expected more from these "people"
>gonna have to grind out nagato again because you know they'll put the t8 as the premium battlepass reward
>>936748T8 BPT9 random bundleT10 sequential bundle + 20 fucking thousand doubloons and there will be people getting all three Thats why I hate the idea of split line from T8, they wont give any of the ships away for free
>>936445>457mm guns on a Japanese ship???
>>936785WG LOOOOOOOOOOOOVES 457 for some reasonI've seen on one of flamuus video where he was talking about preussen. He said that the kreigsmarine had 450mm gun blueprints or something like that. So WG wanted to replace GK with Preussen and give Preussen overmatch. 450mm overmatches 30mm so it was good and historically accurate. NOOO they gave her 457mm because why the fuck not. Why are they obsessed with this number? No idea. NO. IDEA.
>>936787I think its because when the game launched they said they'd never make guns as large as the Japanese 46cm (18.1 inches), so they use 45.7cm (18 inches) instead because its "not as big". So I guess they just think its better to commit the extra 7mm just because they can?But then they add a new TX Japanese battleship and give it 457. Incomprehensible, madness even.
Is it worth playing on rental ships? I've been playing on the free Amagi clone (VIII Ignis Purgatio) from the Warhammer pack, I guess I could transfer the commander once I can buy the Amagi, but would I not be better off investing time in ships I already own?
Fuck radar, fuck divisions, fuck match making, Fuck war gaming
>>936800I dislike radar so much Ive got 16 tier 10 ships and 0 of those have radar. If Im ever going to own a radar ship its going to be either Mino or YY and I wont equipp the radar.
>>936805You will have to play amagi to unlock izumo and yamato. That is obvious?>>937109As a shima you are one of the dds that have least amount of problems with radar ships, watch twhere they are, dont go in the radar range, spam torps from 12km simple right? Radar isnt the problem in this game, if there were no radars you would get smoke farmed by everyone
Do you know what day is it today?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tsushima
>>937706WG butthurt day
Are the Panam T9/T10 any good? T8 is dogshit so far.
>>939156Yes, they are good. If you know how to play you just wont fucking die.
>tier 5 BB took 9 Jervis torpedoes>surviveHow?
>>939485Britannia rules the waves.
>>939485She probably took all of them at the nose or ass, saturation mechanics kicked in.
>>939490That must be the case.
So how's the New EU DDs? They don't seem that interesting to me.
>>939522Solid DPM, smoke+radarHow can they be but not broken?
>>93957110s radar is a bit too short
>>939583You also have 60 second or something reload. Get close, spotted, press radar , shoot. If he shoots and has support smoke back and disappear while enemy dd is still spotted and keeps eating shit. If he doesnt shoot, do as much damage as possible until someone else starts shooting you, smoke up later. Repeat until enemy dd hates his life and either runs away or dies.
Almost got Lightning but Jutland looks dreadful.
Lightning and up have 360 turrets. Go for it, retard.
>>939656Yes jutland is shit, but daring is very good.
>>934167based opinion and true - somehow the same niggers who talk shit about the game still sit on it for hours daily the only players i can´t take srs are the ones who think cvs are fine and subs are "op" (or go as far and legit think cvs and subs are somehow "equally" strong *kek*).only personal reasons why i this game are to either kill the game or to play with my frens from here by "div abusing">>934297my issue with that data is how the entire chink and UA wave of players from last year isnt visible on any of the graphs - till then its pure "fake news" - legit feels these days on EU as if there are more UA players then german boomers per team around
>>940167Yes there are more slav shitters, and yes they are universally shit in the game. Also how is that repeated battle entry working out ? I see more suicide press W spammers in teams now. So game is becoming more shit imho. As for subs not being not op? Lmao. Clearly you didnt get shotgunned by invisible torps that appear out of nowhere. Ping torps are annoying and not a problem but straight line 6-7 torps just appearing out of nowhere is. Because there is no counterplay to a sub player who doesnt let his position known. Sub doesnt show up on radar location, You get no clue you are spotted specifically by a sub so you cant take evasive manuevers, you dont have a window of opportunity to make evasive manuevers against a sub like you would against a DD because dd torps take time to arrive from the moment it shoots at your predicted path vs the path you choose to take. However with sub the window is 2kms. Its a stupid class with close to zero counterplay. Only real counterplay is hoping your team sub activates his sub radar. Do subs carry games like a cv can? No. Are they OP in the sense that they can nuke people with impunity out of nowhere? Yes.
>>940172>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9_7ElnfHI>inb4 flamu blah blah blah
>>9401721:20 sub players i face do something "good" aka that wont make them sit at last 3 on the scoreboard meanwhile1:2 cv players that i face carry the game solosee the issue i face that is indeed 100% biased?subs became for me as main dd player the easiest class to face in a 1v1 or 1vX+ situation, the fact that most players do not even know what shimas detection range is or how to use repair partys on X fires with 10/20/30/40k matches played just shows me that most players do not fucking care about how the newest class in the game works in terms of playstyle/overall gameplay and how to counter/play against or even with them (somehow you can learn how to play against subs while i have to go into a lemming AA bubble to "counter" the cv in my matches)having the highest average base exp of all EU players from the vg/vm clans sums pretty much up that i understand how this game works overall and that my point till this day stands that a sub player that plays "good" would pretty much solo carry most their games playing a fucking DD instead sitting in a sub subs bring 0 new to the game and have pretty much no place in randos beside PVE shit/event mode
>having the highest average base exp of all EU players from the vg/vm clansDid you cum while typing that?
>>9402072-3 years ago maybe. Anon do not tell me your one of these dmg farmers?
>>940289Only thing that matters is your solo wr, base xp means nothing, legit no one looks at that number
>>940341>Only thing that matters is your solo wrshh you'll trigger the local div abusers
>>940341>Only thing that matters is your solo wrRed flag answer for someone who has below 55% WR. If your overall stats are shit your solo rate won´t matter.
>>940341Glad that I only play with gamers that have overall and recent stats around unicum. That is the only thing that matters anon-kun. Imagine playing WOWS alone KEK!
>divcucks already coping
Look if SadDon't play GameDo one thingFind better Frame
>>940393New to me that WOWS Randoms are 1v1 only. Whats the next copium stage of "I use only my best stats and thats right now solo!"? Ranked? CB? Cope harder Div-less nigger.
>I need not one but TWO crutches>I am totally le good tho
Where do I get more detonation flag? I'm running low.
>>940400>have no one to play with>be bad>lack basic social skills>play solo in a team game
>Overall stat do not matter anymore but cherry picked only onesYou can´t make it up...
>>940384Muh crutch>>940412>Overall statsmore like getting carried stats
>>940470Feels good seeing your div in duos or trios always in the top 5 while solo shitters like you think they did anything impactful kek. The logic of a bad players these days.
>mooom I am fighting 3v1 i am so epic
>>940514It´s kinda sad if you think it´s an L to not play alone games anon.
>>940524>mom i am playing wows 1vs12 and solo win all games!
>heh I'll argument with muh friends again
>>940557>brings up that solo wr only matters>heh i´ll only use the only stats that aren´t complete ass so i do not look like a complete useless noob>go full on copium cause out of overall, solo, duos and trios the only good looking ones out of 4 is solo
>>940563You know you wouldnt be this much butthurt if your solo wr wasnt that shit
Should I?Also, why do you guys care how other people play?
>>940569I sit on comfy 59% solo WR right now. What about you anon? My overall 64% WR does neither matter and my guess will be next that you will mention your COOP stats to feel better? I seen lot´s of schizo posts on here but legit thinking that solo matters more then overall is peak shitter excuse. Server CIS fyi.
>>940563I don't have other stats than solo :)
>Atago has 41mm deck armorWhat? That's 1mm thicker than Petro.
Will they do Arpeggio collab again? I started playing after the last event.
I know Cossack is good, but what about Kidd?
Convoy should just be t8
>>940809furutaka has 50mm or something like thatIts not like it matterseverything above 35 is impossible to overmatch
>>941023With ARP Yamato again and new players skipping tier 7 8 and 9 and ruining T10 games? Yeah they'll probably do the collab again.
>>941053I don't think they'll ever sell ARP Yamato again.
Is this okay for Kitakaze?
>>941070>Grease the gearsits fine>ARnot taking it would be a huge mistake, good choice>Main battery and AA specialistnot much AA to buff so not a good choiceand the 5% main reload isnt worth 3 commander points>Fearless brawleryou dont really want to be detecedyou are not fast and you dont have the french saturationyou've got smokes for a reasonnot a good choice eitherI'd go for IFHE OR Demolition expert. Taking neither of those reduced your damage. Not like its small even without them. Superintendent is fine too.Also RPF is really really good. Makes you die less from random torpedoes if you use it actively and honestly its just fucking OP.
>>941032I never got warm with Kidd - i know it aint bad but just doesnt wanna klick - check out Loyang also beside them two btw since its very very fucking strong in case the map favours you and you plan playing for caps.>>941070FB not needed - better just take 4th row left corner. Very niche build in case you play solo would to take RPF in case you dont wanna rely on your team at all and go for DDs since you can do that even against 90% of t10s but stick to the more range honestly so you got more options overall.
Huh Vita left another clan??? Was it yet again the "fault" of the clan lead or cause he is fucking trash at the game? Must be that L and R still live rent free in his head till this date.
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING BROS
>>941125This is how someone looks who never knew turrets can perma break! ALL THESE FUCKING PROFILE STALKERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>941123>>941125>>941126all of you, mental illness
>>941152MODS MODS THEY BULLY ME!
>>941158Im not vita and I dont even know who vita is
>>918395it kinda makes sense what you say but i would up CA a bit higher since mostly non subhumans play stuff like radar mino, colbert, whore, bris etc.also Vita your the dumbest nigger around here, get of my board REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>941164We are all Vita.
Wow, SAP on Sherman is ridiculous.
>>941182SAP is the reason why I dont use HE on austin. HE damage is fine and the fire chance is good butSAP salvo can hit for 10k on a broadside target and the average salvo is 3.5k dmg. So even without the RB austin has really good DPM. With RB its actually insane and its not uncommon for me to kill a DD from 100% HP in one RB duration. I love Austin BTW. If they didnt give her SAP she would be boring as hell and weak.
>>941186Austin looks like Atlanta on steroid.
>>933840And I'm one of them. The playerbase told WG every step of the way that subs did not fit the game. They didn't, they don't and they wont. Make a custom convoy game mode for them and put randoms back the way they were. I'm not coming back til they're gone.
I've sworn to never play carriers, but should I play subs?
>>941198Game became a too frustrating experience with random retard teams , repeated battle entry press W spammers, random subs, constant cv games. I had enough, uninstalled it today. Wont be back until and if wg decides to fix their shit. I have better games to play. You guys can keep malding with the russian casino game, i had enough of getting mad at a game i no longer enjoy playing even when i consistently solo carry retards.
>>941212See you in two days
>>941212Sure Vita. Dumb fucking nigger you never carried ever in this fucking game. See you back in a few days or weeks.
>>941221Do not dox my ranked stats!
>>941205carriers are funsubs are fun too but they get boring fast
Why do the team that attacks the convoy automatically loses 50% of their collective 70iq? How the fuck are you losing the autowin side? I've had that happen too many times ,>>939555 being the best example.
What would you recommend for first tier 10 cruiser?
>>939656Jutland was nerfed into the ground before Kitakaze saw anything until Update 0.9.11.
>>941478Minotaur. It's the best, you'll never need another one.
Is it possible to make a mod that changes captain voices? I'd like to have the female German voice from the Hololive girl on the Azur Lane Admiral Hipper commander.
>>941478Des Moines for general usability.Minotaur for powerful smoke gameplay.San Martin for he can't keep getting away with it.
again an event without any free shit
>>942009They gave you a free event captain.
San Martin is good?
>>942293>>941868Oh, and how's Pan-Asian cruisers?
>15 torpedoes with TRBThat's a 30 torps salvo. How is this allowed?
>>942339Its overall stats are shit, bad conceal, bad dpm etc - legit play YY at t10 and its better or lmao play Jinan if you wanna deep water whore
>>942295Jinan is fun af but after I bought Austin (same hull) I dont play her. Shell arcs are bad.Speaking of jinan >>942339 30 torps??Jinan has 40 with RB. It takes time to deploy them but holy wall of skill. It's a DD with a citadel after all. BTW picrel, replacement for jinan finally coming to the game most likely. I think that after Jager they just dont give a fuck.
Where do I spend those tokens exactly? I dont have the page in the Armory. Is it a bug?
>>942391>20 torps per side, 40 totalTRB too please.
>>942406another low tier hull at high tierWG is losing their minds
>>942399>6 days>40 captured/defended ribbonsFuck that
>>942429easily farmed on brawls/ playing bot games at 4am alone with only bots on your teamyou wait for an enemy bot to get into the cap and you spam it with some delay between salvos to get defended ribbonsalso why the fuck is the [Captured/Assisted in capture/Defended] mission counting ribbons from the convoy? There are no caps in this gamemode
>>942406reminder that people bought this thing with real money in closed beta and didn't get to keep it
I like ZOOMing around and shoving torps up enemies' asses. Which line should I play?
do i play this on steam or on wows own client? i have played other games on my wargaming account
>>942844I play Swift in silence shima meme build for zooming and torpingyou are so fast an the concealment is so good you can even play the 8km torpsfor consistency 12km are better
>>942844Halland line - ignore low dmg on torps but look at the reload and speed of them, you can not dodge them and are reloaded so fucking fast on them
>>942851do client since steam will sometimes redownload the entire game when patches hit
>>942844go back in time and buy the kamikaze
>>942953>swift in silencedamn why haven't I ever done that
Thanks wg, very cool
Wow, Jinan guns look so bad even at around 10km range.
>>943139at least they have great dpmUnlike yodoand jinan has also godlike torpsUNLIKE YODO (yodo's are slow and its hard to hit anything with them)and very good concealmentunlike yodoand good hullunlike y*dowhy is yodo like that? getting beaten in almost every meaningful category by an at best decend cruiser
how to gitgud with BBs? guns r hard to aim and takes forever to rotate
>>943276one word/patience/instead of shooting everytime you can its better to wait 10 seconds for the turning cruiser to show her broadside and then shoot>hard to aimuse the minimap circle its just autoaim without cheats because WG doesnt care>takes forever to rotateone of the biggest challanges a new battleship player has to deal withAfter a while you manage your turrets subconsciously. You have to plan your turrets ahead.
>>943236With those player number, do you think they'll ever implement cross servers matchmaking?
>>943417there is in low tier
>>943431Really? I didn't know that. What tier?
Does anyone have an up to date mod to restore the rising sun and the swastika?
>>943440it was this or last year in the news and patched into the game - t1 till t2 or 3 or so >>944084no all you need is cute anime woman anyway
So this is why CV players want RTS CV back?
>>944194Few days after the CV rework, the most damage dealt record was broke by a Hakuryu playerJust saying
>italians will be able to fit coal smoke modTime to grind the venezia leg mod.
>>944129This anon gets it.
I can't figure it out, do I use her like fat Shimakaze with less torpedoes but better gun?
>>945120Whats the point of this ship? Its just a worse YY. In every aspect. She cant even take TRB and Smoke at the same time.>inb4 YY has shitwater torps
newfag here, i noticed there are events going onhow do they work?
>>945445the token ones are pretty much gold sinks. There's missions you can do you can spend the tokens to unlock ships early most of the time. also here is a decent code site for free shit. https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/search/label/bonus%20code
what's the purpose of rental ships? i don't quite get it. like i have a t8 40k ship, while i just started the game? i'm not gonna take it into a t8 fight.
Torpedo launchers can be permanently destroy? What else?
>>945601secondary mounts, so for secondary build take the upgrade that increases their hp.
>lose by landslide 6 games in a rowIs this the weekend MM I keep hearing about?
>>945256Yeah I think it need some buffs and tweak, make it truly a hybrid of Haru and Shima instead of being the bad of the both.
>>945601main battery turrets can break permamently too im pretty sure but its rare>>945627 thisAA guns are the ones that break the most. Sometimes all of them break. You even get a message on the screen that says that they all broke. You still have some AA but its like 10% of the original DPS.You can check how many of the secondary/AA mounts are still alive by hovering your mouse over them in the H screen. Always check this after a conqueror hits you. Its painful.
>>945802I play ranked for the doubloons and steel and I have to win ~2 games everyday to get all of the 27 win awards in gold. 2 wins a day, "thats easy" I said. Then the weekend came. Its pretty much always the russians and ukrainians. Writing some nonsense in cyrilic after dying in the first 3 minutes. UA in the clan tag or in the nickname and I know this player is going to do nothing the whole game. How did they even get to gold?? HOW??
>>945887holy shit based?? your one of us now - before it was the GER clan tags now its legit as you said UA somehow in name (mostly also good stats) but play so fucking bad its unreal
>>946991There can be two explanations , 1: Sold account, 2: Ru server is so braindead that if you play even semi competently ( as in not suiciding , not showing broadsides) you nuke everyone at that server
>hybrid battleships>hybrid destroyers soonClearly this game needs more planes, what's next?
how the FUCK do i play BBs?>everything is slow as shit>takes forever to do anything>miss all my shots anyway
>>947738minimap dot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXbWux_QKY&t=972swatch the whole video anywaybut the dot is the most important
>>947738Dont play them, stick with cruisers and destroyers. BB is the worst class in the game. Cant carry shit, you are just a target at high tiers.
>>947790>BB is the worst class in the gametruth, but I'd say submarines are equally shit>Cant carry shitfalseif you are an aggresive BB player you can win entire flanks IF lucky with enemy torps/CLsif you are a passive sniper BB you can win 2 entire flanks by sitting in the middle searching for broadsidesevery other playstyle cant carry shit>you are just a target at higher tierstruth, although its not that bad considering you are the tankiest class in the game (if we exclude light cruisers sitting broadside)
>>947827more like search for broadside, rng fucks you most of the time you get overpens, enemy angles away
>>947835shoot enough times RNG wont affect youthats why I dont like vermontyou cant shoot that much so it has more RNG to it
>that citadel on the new spaghetti bb
>>947539>Hybrid DDs soonThe fucking what now?
>>947790best cruiser line(s) for scrubs?
>>947738Just get better?
>>948479Uk, you just learn to position yourself in a location you can pop smoke open hydro and farm people. You can play around the islands, or if you get noticed a bit too much just pop your smoke to disappear. You can use your hydro more aggressively to push caps etc when there are less ships around to shoot you aswell.