>what is evemmo space sandbox>what is eve really?dead game>ingame channel/v/bros>should I start playing EVE?probably not>patchnoteshttps://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-21-02
>amarr
>>858382It can really take a pounding
total minmatar death
fittings for this feel?
Unwashed dirty bitch
>Amarr unironically>Implying
>>858707>he doesn't have a righteous crossishygddt
>>858415>crucifier>old modelbasedi'd almost lost faith in you faggots
in rust we trust
>>858415always link the previous newfag>>841491
>>858866Go away spacenigger
>>858713No way
>>858700
>>858895>tech 2>boosts>rigs>picked off rats
>>858896This is as cheap as it can get if you wanna ruin nullbabies' lives these days.
What are your current goals?
>>858882it's not a general thread, there is no previous thread
>>858911Stealing ore from nullsec refineries to build T2 stuff. I travel throughout a different region every day checking which refineries are pulling in moon ore, which have their asteroid belts up, etc then document them in a spreadsheet and pass it along to my corp.There's not always a lot of asteroid fields up since corps tend to mine them as soon as they pop, but some get lazy after a while and let them stay in space. I got a fleet together and ran off with 180k m3 of Ytterbite from Fraternity space using Ventures before someone reported us on intel and we had to filament out. It refined into enough Thullium to make about 18k Photonic Metamaterials, which turned in to about 9000 Photonic Microprocessors, which was enough to make 50 or so Prospects. It only took our fleet of 13 around 20 minutes to mine all of that and we didn't lose anyone, not even the hauling Miasmos.
What's the fastest ship in EVE? I'm using a 50mn Punisher right now to make tactical bookmarks, but is there something better?
>>858911To improve my piloting skills. A pretty boring answer but I've ended up in a group that's probably above my skill level and I find myself dying to stupid mistakes more often than I'd like.
>>858941Last I saw a 50mn slicer is fastest
>ab on a bckelon pls
>>858943Two most fundamental things that improve your piloting:- only use shortcuts to cycle and overheat modules, that way you can rotate camera and double click in space to your heart's content;- configure your overview and the overall UI layout to make it comfortable. The most important part of it is brackets.Do that first, the rest comes naturally with experience. Shortcuts alone automatically put you in top 3% of pilots, I swear.Also record your battles. I use OBS and start recording right after undocking because I keep forgetting about it in the heat of battle.
>>858978Rebinding keys is also insanely useful, F keys are okay, but shift-f keys is a bit much and there really isn't anything using the QWERASDFZXCV keys that couldn't be reboundI pretty much have it set up so QWER are offensive modules, guns, point, web, ect, ASDF are defensive modules like booster and cloak, and ZXCV is other modules like hardeners and tracking computers or probe launchers, ect.Once you get a general idea of where you want major module types to go it becomes second nature and much easier then shift and ctrl or going down to F8
>>858981Yeah, a basic grid layout and alt+key shortcuts to toggle overheat. It makes even ships with like 12 active overheatable modules a breeze to fly. The F keys can be used for things like switching modes on tactical destroyers, overheating racks (useful for logi reps), drone control, etc.
>>858978>>858981Thanks for the advice. I'm good at using the F keys but I still click for overheating, which is quite cumbersome, and I really should look to rebind some other buttons. Will have to figure out my own keybinds though as I've become accustomed to V for D-scan and F to assign my drones.I've been lazy about setting up OBS too, I know it's useful and I used to dream of making videos. Maybe that Bringing Solo Back video competition will motivate me to try harder.
here's some elite pvp advice. everyone who says to never use the orbit or keep at range commands is a retard. they have a use
>>858994Yeah but its also bad practice in PVPA close orbit is good to counter slower guns, keep at range is useful for kiting and range control, but just pushing either of those in a general sense is liable to get you oneshot by sniper nerds
it's not bad practice, it's fine a lot of the time. bad practice would be manually piloting all the time when there's no benefit
>>859007Moderation is key, I suppose. I'm the guy who wants to improve and I've died a few times because I failed at manually piloting when I should've just orbited, but if I only use orbit/keep at range I'll get fucked when I'm in a situation where I really need to manually pilot.
being good is knowing when to do which, that's all I'm saying. so many shitters say manual pilot all the time
Tech 3 Mining BargesIntegrated Industrial Jump DriveIntegrated Compressor (Only for ore the ship itself harvests)Assault Damage ControlScanning Bonuses
>>858895>Kelon Darklight>tuskers nanogang faggotI hope you're copying fits and not actually Kelon.
>>859030>Tech 3 industrial>its a single role shipRetardedEven if its an industrial ship, it wouldn't be pure mining, and it definitely wouldn't have a fucking jump drive, maybe a mining hold and covops cloakIdeally>3 modes, transit, industrial reconfiguration, defense reconfiguration, reconfiguration modes are stationary>specialized cargo subsystems for hauling different loot types, generic, ore, gas, PI, ect>single mega bonus to strip miner speed and range, but not competitive with exhumers, basic bonuses for racial weapons and ewar>d-scan immune
leave kelon alone he's alright
>>858932how did your fleet deal with null belt rats in ventures?
>>859161We had a Ferox to clear them with which also had a mining boost on it. It was a Ferox, a Buzzard, a Miasmos, and 11 (10 because one guy couldn't stay connected) Ventures. Buzzard scouted a route through a wormhole chain, fleet traveled to the system through it, Miasmos hauled ore back and forth a couple of times through it. We had a HS-C2-C1-NS route, so it was really quick. Took a Pochven filament for a quick exit upon seeing the first player on local.We only had one rat wave spawn, and as far as I can tell, belt rats target combat ships first over miners but will target switch occasionally. As long as the non-battleships die quickly and the Ventures are orbiting, everything should be ok.When mining in a big group like this, you don't have long before someone checks things out. There's no way to hide there's 15 players in space on the map, doesn't matter if it's a local checking the system to defend it or another fleet roaming to get easy kills, you're going to attract attention and have to leave. There's no moon ore in the game that's valuable enough to justify constantly relocating, but it's the only way to get it so if you want to build things that use it, you don't have a choice.
>>858882why?there's no pointif anyone wants to find the old thread they can find it in the archives
Every thread for this dead game is exactly the same anyhows so why bother.
>>859053It's regrettable that you've lost ships to Kelon but you should keep it to yourself.
How much would a 225mil sp toon sell for?
$8
>>858866checked Chadmatar
>>859183proof you can still do cool, fun and interesting things in eve.
More like proof of wasting everybody's time.
>>859508in my corp, anyone caught flying an amarr ship that isn’t specifically part of a fleet doctrine is shot on sighta few days ago someone got his arbitrator blown up
>>858911God those ships are so lazily designed
>>859509Yeah, but it's not all that profitable when you consider the time it takes to scout a place. It was one of my goals in EVE to find a way to reliably get T2 materials without having to deploy a structure of my own though, so I can say it works.Eventually I'd like to try and do this with barges, but we still have the problem that there's no way to compress moon ore without an Orca or Rorqual and an Orca can't jump on its own. If I had money to blow, I'd say trying to bridge a Hulk fleet in with a Rorqual, mining for 30 minutes, and then bridging the fleet back out could be a way to efficiently mine the ore where it's actually profitable, but that assumes the Rorqual actually makes it out with the ore. Each Hulk mining Loperite pulls 560m ISK/hour and it would take between 5.5 to 56 Hulk-hours to mine out a field.Prospects would be far more reliable, but you'd have to manually haul things in and out with a Miasmos constantly and it only takes 35 minutes for a single Prospect to fill a Miasmos's cargohold.
New patch notes.>https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-21-03#h2-1
>Nothing at all
Gay (written by literal trannies fr), dumb and very un-eve.
what the fuck is a shipcaster
Some gay instant-action button most likely.
I regret everytime I try to be social in this game. Befriend person, drags me into a group, group does nothing that I'm intersted in, once in a day they try to drag me 40+ jumps away, if they care enough to share a gas site location, and then fuck off by the time I get there, bunch of discord homos.Anyone tried these new factional warfare changes? What is there to do for a solo player?
>>859509but at what cost?
>>859718>very update much contentthis is the meme for retards. same 'defending' beacon with bots \alts\ awoxers . LP is a bit better tho
>>859681basically>structure in highsec>lets players temporarily enlist with a FW faction>when you activate it, warps you to the current active frontline system with a Battlefield in it>you PVP for your faction>if your faction wins/captures the Battlefield site, you get 200mil worth of LP>then you wait 2-3 hours for the next Battlefield site to spawnpartly Enlistment thing, partly to help new players get around highsec/lowsec hellcamp gatecamps cuz Snuffed/WhiteSky have nothing better to do all day than camp lowsec gates with 1k DPS instalock Gnosis
>>859941to add a bit too>Caldari have shipcaster tech, but dont have the powersource for it>Amarr had a stellar transmuter (needed to power a shipcaster) but not the shipcaster>Amarr got caught spying on their allies, Caldari, via agents they had posing as Edencom/Concord businessmen>Minmatar stole Amarr's transmuter tech and are working on building their own>Gallente got nothing because players failed the event like 6 months ago, so they're behind
>>858911I'm close to 2 billion isk and ive been dping forsaken hubs in a Gila for months. I have no idea what to do next to increase cash flow.
>>860106Gila is a noob trap. do them in a 1300dps Typhoon or something instead, Typhoon goes fast enough that it doesnt need much tank. Praxis would work well too, but Praxis has the CPU of a 90s Thinkpad. Eventually upgrade to an Armageddon Navy or a Rattlesnake or something.make sure you're dropping MTUs and bookmarking them, Forsaken Hubs in even an Ishtar makes 100mil/hr if you're looting & salvaging everything as well. bookmark like 90min worth of sites at once then go back with a Noctis to clean up all the wrecks. doing this 1/3rd of your ratting income alone will be minerals (gotten from melting down random shit loot) and salvage, which you can use to manufacture stuff or to sell to thirsty industryfags that live down there with you. get PI planets going on all 3 character slots on your account for passive income. assuming you're in null, 3 char slots doing PI there would be making you at least 1bil a month passively for ~2min of clicking buttons a day and 15min of hauling every 2 weeks. later on, do some market trading by watching updates and market trends in some things, investing 500mil or 1bil into an item/mineral/ship and cashing out a few months later when its gone up in price. there's a big nullsec war happening right now so already a lot of tech2 ships have doubled in price since last week. making money in Eve without burning out involves diversifying your income. if you just grind one thing all the time and nothing but you'll burn out and hate the game.
>>860143oh also, belt ratting can be a nice change of pace, as well as data/relic sites or wormhole day tripping. killing rats in belts gives you a chance to get a faction spawn every 30min-1h or so, or hauler spawns (npc hauler with like 15mil units of minerals inside) or officer spawns if you're really really really lucky. faction spawns can sometimes drop some nice shit, like rare implants or faction modules worth 100s of mil.
>>860143All that effort for a trash game.
>>860159god fucking forbid someone has fun chilling on a video game after work
>>860143Thanks for the ideas. I've fucked around with a Praxis but it seems way slower than the Gila, although I probably have a shit fit. I am part of the war so it's a little dangerous to be flying around anything too expensive right now. Do you know of a good guide for PI? I have never touched it. Or if you have a Typhoon fit.
>>860257Not him, but you could try Rapid Heavy Missile launchers. Even with alpha skills, Praxis can break over 1000dps with Rapid Heavy Missiles.
>>860106Unless you're going to be using mainly battleships for pvp, just head into abyssals and finish training missiles/drones/caldari+gallente cruiser.
>>860106Invest your money into market trading and learn how that shit worksBuy low, sell high, it takes fucking forever to see real profits but its better than your liquid isk sitting in your wallet doing nothingAs for active gameplay you're pretty much doing the best ISK per hour in the game already solo, the only thing else is pretty much multiboxing and botting, and thats just gay
>>860338Oh and if you don't know where to start, flipping PI is usually a good go-to since most people just AFK that shit and dump it on the market in bulk, usually the assholes who own perimeter will buy shit to flip P2 and P3s into P4s, just don't try to do it yourself because the perimeter PI taxes are absurd if you're not the owner
>>860257depends what you're doingeither way, MJD and keeping distance is pretty much all you need
eve online
Got anything I can shoot?
>>860943>amarr
>>860943based amarr enjoyer
>>861103made for big minmatar cock
>nobody does events because only person doing final hit gets points>"lol let's add suspect timer just for warping into the site"
>>861103Does switching modes spread xir legs?
I’m starting to enjoy triple frig abyss, got up to t4, doesn’t feel like that much clicking anymore. Especially the dark hawks are more chill than the 2retri1deacon in electricals.
abyssals removed when
>>861230Never, chinks eat instanced grindshit up
chinese question solved when?
>>860175It’s still trash tho. A smart person would ask for updates . Dumass just consumes anything regardless and even shilling for free. Fucking pathetic loser
>>861424>A smart person would ask for updates>when the game's recently gotten the largest content updates in yearslol k
>>861420When pearl abyss abandons this shit after letting chink bots, trigshit, and buyable skill points rot out its foundations.
>>861498>>>>>>>Story updates>faction warfare rework #5>new player rework #20>contentThe only content to come out since pearl abyss has taken over is story shit and trigshit, every other update has been CCP heavy handedly trying to bandaid the gaping wound that is Citadels, Asset Safety and Instanced ISK printing.
game balance pls. fuck off with your "content"
>noooo I need a new fotm>noooo I need contentroll the game back to odyssey and never change it again
no
stop playing the game and lurking the thread if you don't enjoy it
stop posting here faggot , if you disagree with anything
>>861498>largest content updates in yearsjust imagine being that retarded . if you are still wondering why eve is a side project for ccp, the answer is right here. retards enjoy their safe and well known environment , new textures\ui is enough to make them busy . Any further changes would disturb them and make them switch from shitty "war memes" to angry reddit posting
I started playing EVE. I'm so sorry guys
Been hardcore focusing on willpower/perception skills for the past year, but there's a few INT ones I'd like to get to V. I thought they would have removed the attribute system by now
Want to play Eve so badly but the moment I log in, just start to get drowsy, sleepy, and just desire to exit asap and take a nap.
>>861857same, except I don't want to play EVE and I feel that way all the time
>>859718FW has always been good solo/small gang. But I feel you, my entire EVE corp experience is >join lowsec corp doing cool kill ops>things get amazing doing small roams plexing in fw when we can't find people and ultimately just being pirates>leadership decides to take corp to null because muh ego>move all the way out there, isk dries up, space isn't defended, we are a null aliance bitch corp>leadership wants us to fly retardedly expensive doctrines>i burn out, move my shit and quitRinse and repeat indefinitely. Fuck nullsec
>>861103Pedo
>>861855I sure CCP like people wasting skillpoints sends it leads to impulse buys to get more. That said, they should just remove attributes, make skillpoints accrue to the unallocated pool, and remove attribute implants to replace them with cerebral accelerators.
>>861928Why though?
>>861915>Start playing EVE, have a dream of being a bounty hunter, want to take down notorious pirates for fat ISK>At the time, giving a bounty on someone just resulted in them podding themselves with an alt and collecting it>Eventually slightly improved by tying it to their lossmails, but still doesn't fix things and now doesn't pay shit when your target just flies a shitfit frigate all day>Have a stealth bomber trained, so decide to fly with bombers' bar since it's the next best thing>Do ops for about a month, think it's cool to blops drop a dread and kill it>Realize three weeks in this is getting pretty lame, anyone I'd want to kill can instantly replace their capital and we kill a lot of players who literally have everything tied up in that one ship>On top of that, FC keeps all the loot, not that it's good anyway>During this time, realize just how big the gap between null alliances are and everyone else>Love scouting, so I decide to sell intel to people and corps>Make a decent amount of ISK doing things like selling a bunch of bookmarks of various sites in null, sending a report on traffic and player activities, or watching wormhole exits for people>Make a program that automatically grabs players on my overview jumping through wormholes and reports the distance to the wormhole and who they are and what they fly, showing who's coming and going by timestamp in an easy to read web database>Throw in scanning wormholes and reporting their lifetime as part of the deal so you know your exits are always updated twice per day>Get paid several billion ISK a month by three large wormhole corps for this back when PLEX is somewhere around 400m, literally PLEXing 11 accounts and still making like 13 billion extra every month
>>861937>Keep this up for years, literally sitting on over 1 trillion ISK by the time I pack everything up and get out of it>Have been training my main constantly since 2010 and never flying him, almost every combat skill at V, most ship skills at V outside of Titans and Moms>No will to play anymore, unsubscribe everything and let it all rot>Friend who used to play wants to come back in 2021 to do abysses, don't have a clue what those are>Apparently there's been some NPC invasion since I've left>Come back, see abyss, have fun, friend immediately quits because he's fickle>Decide I want to mine instead since I've never actually mined for real>Have absolutely no mining skills>Join newbro corp and immediately get bored of mining in high sec>Tell everyone we're going to go huff gas in low>Devour gas sites in under 30 minutes, everyone just flying ventures with boosts>Make like 600m a site in 10m ISK ships>Constantly have to look out for pirates>Finally enjoy EVE
>>861937>>Make a program thatI didn't hate you until that, ffs gaming is dead.
>>861558this but unironicallybittervet faggots in this thread havent undocked in years and still post how bad the game is based on their experiences of being a 2012 nullbabby ratting in a super
>>861916
>>861950Pedo
>>861947It is funny to me that so many people admit to this without understanding that they are admitting to cheating.
>>861947Let's be honest with ourselves, would me not doing it prevent others from doing it as well? It's EVE, multiboxing, automation, and botting ruin the game, you have to accept if you want to play it you need to use every tool at your disposal.Previously before writing one, I had simply played back the video and manually updated the database by hand, afterwards it did it for me in real time. Imagine knowing exactly who came in a wormhole, when they did it, and what they're flying, it's a service any wormhole group would pay a ludicrous amount of ISK for.Personally, I was really hoping CCP would just cut down on the multiboxing by letting players see what's on the other side of gates and wormholes, but it looks like that's never going to happen. If it makes you feel better, I now do the same thing on a smaller scale in Thera, tracking who's active and what's being camped.
>>861948I still don't understand how they hate the game
>>861965Except it's not, or at least impossible to ban. Streaming EVE is perfectly legal, otherwise Uedama Scout would've had his channel closed long ago. If I recorded in real time his local chat window and had a program parse it, should he get banned? I couldn't be banned because I might not even play EVE, I just made use of a public resource and logged the results to a third party website.And that's just the thing. It's fine to have a cloaked scout sitting on a gate or wormhole. It's fine to stream EVE. It might not be fine to have a program parse the video you're streaming and log it, but if you don't even play the game and the person streaming doesn't know you're doing it, then how is CCP going to take action? Go after the guy who's not doing anything wrong? Ban someone who doesn't even play the game?
>>861970>Except it's notIt is using an external application to do something that is not possible to do by just playing the game. It is by definition cheating. >or at least impossible to ban. ah so it's okay to cheat and ruin the game because you won't get caught? > If I recorded in real time his local chat window and had a program parse it, should he get banned? You should for using automation, CCP should also have a streaming rule that local and other system info should be hidden. >then how is CCP going to take action?Again, cheating because they cannot catch you is a shitty argument. You are ruining the game.
>>861966>would me not doing it prevent others from doing it as well?"if I don't steal this womans purse someone else will so I might as well" Retarded argument.>It's EVE, multiboxing, automation, and botting ruin the gameSo your solution is to automate and bot intel collection? >you have to accept if you want to play it you need to use every tool at your disposal.No I do not. I just awox anyone I find out is doing it and outcast them socially. >imagine knowing exactly who came in a wormhole, when they did it, and what they're flying, it's a service any wormhole group would pay a ludicrous amount of ISK for.Yes, cheating does grant you things that is more lucrative than regular gameplay.>I was really hoping CCP would just cut down on the multiboxing by letting players see what's on the other side of gates and wormholesMultiboxing isn't a problem, automation is. >If it makes you feel better, I now do the same thing on a smaller scale in Thera, tracking who's active and what's being camped.I'll let CCP know thanks.
>>861972>You are ruining the game, stop!!For who? For you? For some player who looks for "content"? If anything, making travel and content safer for players doing it is a net benefit to the game. It sounds more like sour grapes that you aren't benefiting from it, or perhaps you're too lazy to set up your own alt farm for it.>>861976Please do, it's already been reported several times by people who've caught wind of it. CCP doesn't give a fuck. If they did, they would fix the root of the problem because a ban won't stop it.If mass botting didn't make CCP sit up and make fundamental changes to the game, one guy running a dozen alts to log travel isn't going to get their attention either. It would be a benefit to the game if it did, but everyone knows it's not going to happen. Just go and benefit from it instead and stop seething over things you can't control.
>>861966>>861970Lol dude noone here cares if you cheat, but don't pretend you're innocent when you're literally botting.
OCR isn't cheating if it isn't interacting with the game client you're mad you didn't think of it first
>>861983>For who? For you? For some player who looks for "content"?For everyone playing the game as its meant to be played. >making travel and content safer for players doing it is a net benefit to the game.how is it a benefit and how are your actions causing that? You are selling cheating intel to groups, you aren't some philanthropist. >or perhaps you're too lazy to set up your own alt farm for it.Perhaps it's that cheating ruins games and I refuse to ruin a game for fake money. >Just go and benefit from it insteadNah fuck you give me your in game name. It gives me solace that you will never experience gaming in its prime.
>>861994Keep lying to yourself.
>>861995If I told you I was responsible for Uedama Scout in the first place, would you believe me? It would be nice to roll out a similar service for the entire galaxy, providing a free scout for every player in the game.Shame he got greedy and looped his footage for ganks a few times. I really wanted him to take over Thera Scout and roll it out publicly, but it was too much work.
>>862000You are a retard
>>861963go to bed nathan
>>862024pedo
>warp to asteroid belt>shoot 3 frigate rats>collect 3 metal scrapsMaking those iskies
https://zkillboard.com/kill/107569564/>nullsec static opened next to a huge red blob on the map>goons blowing up a fortizar and leaving>collect pic relatedMaking those iskies
amarr master race
>>862034
>>858911Im going to finish Tavar quests, then start working on the ones in Hort
>>861972>It is using an external application to do something that is not possible to do by just playing the game.you must be the dumbest retard gorilla nigger alive, by that definition, pulling market data from the API into a spreadsheet is cheating
>AhbazonJust mwd cloak trick
should i get an omen or maller for l3 secuity missions?
>>862797Omen will kill things faster but is more fragile, the Maller can be overtanked to the point it can survive in L4s but is fat and slow. They're pretty similar overall though.Get the Omen if you want to snipe, get the Maller if you want to brawl.
Can fly golem, tengu, jackdaw. Perfect missile&shield skills+magic14. Don't know what to train now since I'm a loner and havent had to train into any fleet doctrines
>>862113wow amazing, although I always wondered how people got the loot from these.
>>862326pedo
>>862838
>>862840go away pedo
>>862828What do you want to do? support skills are always good
>>862848stop requesting more pics then anon4chan is an anime websitefuck off back to 9gag if you dont like it
>>862863What a useless girl.
>>862863Don't hide behind anime pedo, you aren't fooling anyone.
>>862867
>>862894stop fucking kids jared
We need a 4chan University corp to help bring newbros up to speed so they can learn the game and participate in weekly mining fleets (with free orca boosts)
>learn the game>mining
>>862943All-Out already exists.
>>862943if they mine 6 hours a day 5 days a week they can expect to earn up to 3 billion a week!
>>861966Lumping multiboxing together with cheating is retarded.
>>863060There's a guy in my corp who does that, mines with an Orca and six hulks on HS moon ore 3 times a week for hours at a time. I don't mind HS mining on occasion because it's a leisure activity you can do while chatting with friends in voice, but he does it solo.He does make like 25b ISK a month doing it though, and that's after PLEXing all of his characters. I don't think it's a good use of 100 hours per month, but I can't deny the results.
>>863176330 million isk an hoursounds kinda bad
>>862899
>>863176>irl wagie that does not get even real money in return
>>863262>>863176>>863060>>862943
>>863661I don't get it.
>>863176ive always wanted to spool up alts for things like these but then i always think: wtf do i need all this extra money for?
>>862943>mining slaveskek>>863060Now were gonna hurt that by adding on some armor buffer. >>8636614chan is only good at forming up to burn things down. >>863662people joined his corp just to awox his orca.
>>863704I have a lot of friends that play EVE off and on, I was debating using their accounts for multiboxing in this way. Tell them I'll PLEX their account if they dedicate a character slot to just sitting in a specific system and training mining skills for a couple of months.Only thing is I burn out real fast so I know if I attempted it I'd barely do maybe three or four hours a week, which isn't enough to pay for anything.
>pvekys
>>863842exactly my feeling too. i wanted to set up PI in a C1 out of a cheap structure but it feels like too much effort compared to just playing on my maineven mining is a huge investment
>>863908Ended up doing NPC null with NPC Station. Almost as good as wh and I can walk away for months without issue.Worth about 1 bil per char with 3 day cylces and you can just potch highway everything to jita or amarr.
>>863927>filamentshow do you deal with the constant need to replace epithals?
>>863931you can fit minerals and fits for 5 epithals in a badger and just manufacture in closest NPC station.PI alts all set their home station to the PI hub before attempting to fly back, autopilot makes it to Outer Ring about 50/50
>>863938*Crane the t2 cloacky one.total is about 3 bil per account per monthHave about two extraction alts per factory alts. Factory alts all stay in system. Some extractoin alts have planets a couple jumps out.
>>863939also, 3b a month? how are you doing those numbers? i pull 2.1b with 3 toons monthly
>>863941current prices are crazy. One planet makes 12 Wetware per day. 2 accounts feeding it more than it can process.2.39m x 12 x 5 x 30 = 4.3 billess taxes and epithals.
>>863946you have 2 accounts / 6-8 toons with 36-48 planets feeding p4 into another toondid you mean 1 bil per account per month here >>863927?
>>863950my bad. no two chars with 6 planets each feed 1 character with 5 factory planets for 3 bil per month net.12 extraction planets + 5 factory planets generally balance.1 bil per char per month. 3 bil per account per month
>>863661>popblueskek
>>863952i see. i have all my toons feeding 16 planets of p1 into my main with 2 factory planets making p1>p2
>>863955Some of the lower processed things do make more isk I just cant stand the hauling.Extraction planets in high sec are about half as productive as null and lower stuff is way faster to profit.I've always wanted a WH setup but burned out on scanning for now.
>>863752>people joined his corp just to awox his orca.What's awox? They blew it up? Why?
>>864211awox is slang for popping blues, basically. Awox was a person who joined corps and killed his corpmates over and over again before they caught on and could kick him. He repeatedly did this and thus the term AWOX was defined.originally it meant tackling a corpmate so you could kill him with an out-of-corp alt, but nowadays it basically means shooting at blues. Awox still plays, someone saw him around the other day.
>>864211>Why?because mining is cancer, especially highsec mining corps which are basically just a tax/discount mineral scam. 3bil a month for 30 hours a week of mining?a group of 9 people could make that much running wormhole sites together for an hour or 2. mining is so bad, that you literally make minerals faster just spinning an ishtar in null and melting down the loot.
>>864211awoxing is getting a character in a corp so they can tackle high value targets to destroy usually extremely expensive null ratter fits. Usually we got someone to betray their corp by telling them their corp was gay and that they could get a lot of isk by blowing up their corp mates and could join pizza. The way this worked is that in eve online if you are online and not in a station you can't be kicked out of a corp, by getting an alliance member to log in continously after downtime they could tackle high value ratting ships as long as they cared to beat a corp manager at logging in(this was easy to do as down time is at a very bad american and european hour)
>>864236>>864217Literally why would anyone play the game where the point is to fuck people over by pretending you're their friend like a psycho retard?
>>864221It's only bad because it's done so commonly, which drives down the price of minerals to near worthlessness. Suicide ganks in high security space actually help more competent miners to some degree like this, it reduces the amount of minerals in the system and causes the prices to rise.The problem is there's so many people mining in high sec and only the incompetent, AFK ones get caught. Suicide ganks will never effectively hit those massive 60 man operations that mine out a 56 day moon pull in under an hour twice a day because it's impossible to cause them enough economic damage to get them to stop. Instead, suicide ganks hit the bottom rung of players who can't afford to replace their barge when it goes boom, which is the exact wrong thing to do for a healthy playerbase in EVE, pushing everyone to join these massive alliances instead of actually doing shit on their own.Mining in general needs to have similar difficulty to doing it in lowsec on a large scale, if minerals were all priced relative to how Isogen is mining would be worth doing. Sure, it might make a T1 frigate cost 2m ISK, but that's the tradeoff to making the profession worthwhile.
>>864221Oh, and I agree, unless you're in a massive HS or sov null Hulk fleet with support, it's far more efficient to just farm L4s for loot/bounties instead. I can literally pull around 120m an hour doing them in a T1 battleship via bounties and salvage and get about 40m ISK in minerals from melting down smart bombs and other junk. The worst part is that EVE will never improve on the industry side of the game because mining having value would mean people would have to get out there and do it in significant numbers and only about 20% of the playerbase has any interest in it whatsoever.
I joined a WH corp but I don't know what to do to make ISK.
Simulated Moa fitting
>>864344Ask your corpmates what they do and see if there are any group money making activities but your best options for solo are PI, C3/C5 sites, exploration or gas mining. Could also haul fit ships in and put them up on contract, doctrine ships and sabres should always be in demand.
>>864236I hear vague references to pizza in my circles, what even were they? boomer skillu?
>>864344>but I don't know what to do to make ISK.you're in a wormhole corpthey do group ratting sessionsjoin one of those, you'll make a bil or two for an hour's worth at least. if there are no farming fleets up then do any combo of>huff gas, like 60mil/hr>explo, 1mil~1bil/hr because RNG>go back to highsec and run abyssals for 60mil~1.8bil/hr>run burners in NPC null for 200mil/hr>rat in nullsec for 120mil/hr>solo rat C3 sites in a drake/praxis/gila for 60mil/hr
just wanted to see how this would handle. In a frig t5 electrical. Didnt even need to overheat, was able to rep through2x elite lucifer cynabal 2x lucifer cynabal 2x elite lucifer dramiels 2x elite dramiels
Do I fucking need to multibox 5o make money? I want some fucking immersion goddamn
Bring back Dust 514 but functional.
>>864793Can’t complain about no money when abyssals exist
>>858895I tried running an XL-ASB 'Cane back when the ASB was first released, pre-nerf. Even back then I didn't really think it was much better than a traditional passive fit.
>>864805I've run T0s in a retribution but Im not sure how to scale up
>>859550Keeping in mind that I haven't played since shortly after fattygay and fozziesov were rolled out:What the fuck is that thing and why is it such a generic piece of shit? What the fuck have they done to my goddamn spaceship game?
>>864815I stopped playing after they took away my space mastabatorium
>>864822Sometimes if it got too cold in my bedroom I would log in on a couple of alts and have them sit in the captains quarters.
>>864813Probably a cruiser skill to V, most likely minmatar for the vagabond to make use of your gunnery skills, but it uses shield instead of armor.
>>864825Honestly, I loved how comfy it was.
>>864834Even though the scale was completely off I did frequently walk over and stare at my ships sitting in the hangar.
>>864838I loved that part and walking to the couch
>>864838Absolutely
>>858911Long term: get my lowsec group to actually drop a fortizar instead of these astras that get reffed by a single dread in AUTZ, even if it means putting up the ISK for it.Short term I'm restocking my stash of doctrine ships on contract, and figuring out the right ship to be doing escalations with so that I don't feed another 1.5b Loki.
>>864985The new structures really don't take a whole lot of extra work to reinforce, unless you mean it'll defend itself better. You might be better off just shaking some hands and getting someone else to defend it instead of putting up the cash to upgrade something that may or may not pay off.
>>864989It's more that whoever decides to ref it will need to commit more resources to do so, which will attract locals/3rd parties to form & fight. The deterrent is there already but the response window for an astra is too small. Right now astras get reffed by a single Zirn or Nag in off-hours & only one defensive timer to make up for it. We won several fights but lost the last one.This is also in FW, but I can't get into more details without revealing who/where/etc. It probably wouldn't be difficult to narrow it down from that description.I don't necessarily think the investment itself is strictly worth it but the last astra was incredibly valuable to the FW grind, and 5 days of asset safety has tied up billions in ships that most people can't just go re-buy.
