"Medieval" "fighting" "game"
last vm thread died after having 2 posts in like 2 weeksnot enough people around to sustain threads for this PoS Ubi game
Me and my friend just quit For Honour the other day. Already my life has improved
>>747303I'm strongly considering that. I got the "Battlepass" this time around because my girlfriend enjoys the game, but now I'm literally just getting on to put some work in on that, and even my girlfriend has expressed the fact that when we get on to play it just feels like a chore now. I git on last night to finish up the event pass and immediately quit when I was done with that.
two things:>do you think a poor kit (Nuxia/Jorm) can be salvaged in 4’s with busted perks? >what do you miss most about the old game before CCU?
>>746962There is not a single game that has made me tilt harder than this one. One of the worst balanced combat systems ive ever seen
>>748014Q1. Yes, but that shouldn't be the answerQ2. I miss marching fire days.
>>748458I’m the total opposite. Everything feels so low stakes and goofy that it’s hard to give a shit.
>>748458I used to tilt super hard but now I just get annoyed at stupid teammates
>>748014Jorm is already carried by that retarded revenge glitchCharacters feeling unique from each other
>>746962Time for Samurai Showdown
>>746962Prepare to be forged in fire. Flame on.
>console pleb >move to next gen>1v1’s are piss easy feels gud
>>746962Wait, how long has /fhg/ been dead? I just wanted to see for honor bants and shitposting while regretting downloading it again.
>its another laggy russian sweaty premade fuck my life
>>748014Yes, but that would be very annoyingMore unique movesets
>>759283/fhg/ died months before the pirate t./Fhg/ Xbox player
I fucking hate the niggers ar Ubisoft
God damn do they make Nobu so bad to play.
I fucking hate Kensei so fucking much when they are so passive.
>>766413she's fun against reactionlets but once someone can react to her kick and lights she's useless
There are thousands upon thousands of games for you to play right now. Why would you subject yourself to this garbage?
i think this game is funCaptcha is my favorite hero
>missed the xp fest lmao
the only pleasure this game has left to offer is sitting afk emoting in spawn to force pirate niggers to lose or DC from the match>Wow! Wow! Wow! STOP FUCKING AFKING IN SPAWN I WANT TO WIN!!!
I always like the music they make or copy, whateverstream today btw:https://www.twitch.tv/forhonorgame
>>746962Ubisoft is full of trannies why would anyone buy or play their games
>played For Honor since the beta back in 2017>genuinely enjoyed the unique combat system and medieval light fantasy aesthetic>Take a year-long break after Marching Fire drops>Come back to something wildly different from what I remembered>executions and emotes filled with flashy magic shit and tasteless decapitations>new armor and weapon sets that were once added often become less and less frequent>high end weapons are all riddled with gaudy shit-looking gold and jewels, looks like something out of a chinkshit MMO than what belongs on an actual battlefield>Garbage """""worldbuilding""""" that almost completely ignores the events of the campaign and only includes the writing team's dogshit fanfiction>fast forward to today>season passes>another fucking "faction" on top of the chink faction which draws away from the original knight-samurai-viking concept>almost no content in sight>"lol what campaign :^)">gladiator still doesn't have a 5th armor type>highlander still doesn't have a 5th armor typeI got a gaming laptop after I left basic training and I think not being able to transfer my account between platforms finally freed me from a terrible curse. Every now and then I catch myself wanting to play For Honor again, then immediately realize that the For Honor I want to play doesn't exist anymore.
>fall in love with a hero’s kit>their customization is complete dogshitanyone else know this feel?
>>776436Thy name is Valkyrie. Her default armor is by far her best-looking, no reason to customize her.
>>776436Im rep 70 on highlanderand I really just want some fucking pants>buh muh thighlander jue jue jue me so funny thighlanderok thats fine, and you can still have that on 99% of his other armorbut give me some fucking pantsfucking freezing out herealsothe shoulder's on the "mercenary" type armors on highlander always clash with the attached capes which sucks because theyre otherwise generally the best looking armors he has
>new stamina update comes out>tell my friend they should add Gladiator's knockdown again, since it can't be abused like before >they added it back this updateVery nice
Ah shit, I didn't realize there was a thread again.>>779980It gets better, you can skewer after toe stab knock down for ridiculous amounts of damage.
>>775708What branch you in bitch
>>780371Air Force, doing loadmaster shit.
>still no landsknecht>still no hopliteeurowarrior bros...
>>781963I'm not sure I want either of them anymore with how small their budget is nowadays.
>>773132consider suicide asap
>>782236This is a For Honor thread we're all considering suicide.
>>782263Isn't that the truth
>>775708the game is not that bad it just didn't improve. please remember unlock tech/stats through gear/peer to peer.people still played the game back then but i don't know why. this game is somehow still kicking after that shit, i guess thank the microtransactions lol. honestly how could the game be improved at this point, it peaked after breach.
>>782421No doubt the game improved tremendously gameplay-wise (the reasons you mentioned being some prime examples). His post is mostly complaining about the lore/art direction and I agree with him and probably half his points. I remember being disappointed when I learned Shinobi could teleport because muh gritty pseudo-historic setting, and then doubly disappointed when they abandoned the "faceless elite soldiers" gimmick for named hero characters from the campaign.For Honor is a way, way better game than it was in 2017 but it's lost a good amount of the 2017 soul chasing new content of the week, running out of ideas, and just churning out meme-content. Also the post-marching fire team clearly doesn't give a shit about the OG setting--not that there was much there to begin with, to be fair, but they got pretty fucking goofy with it. Magic WMD draconite rocks, forest shamans and kappas and spider demons and shit. It's a far cry from the launch setting.It's like somebody wished for a more competent gameplay-dev team and the monkey's paw curled to fuck over the art design and setting.
>>782427>His post is mostly complaining about the lore/art directionThis, exactly. I can wholly acknowledge that For Honor is tech-wise in a considerably better spot than it was before I left. But being the RPing fag that I am, I just can't totally get behind the state of its world like I used to be able to.Hell, Tiandi and Zhanhu are functionally and aesthetically two of my favorite characters, but their existence in this game is symptomatic of a very wide stretch away from the simple Red vs Yellow vs Green story I fell in love with.>>782421>honestly how could the game be improved at this pointFor starters, it could stop trying to form itself into Siege but with swords and fall back onto its roots. Close up all these stupid helmets and let everybody be a faceless mook again. Leave this Heathmoor "let's all be friends noble warriors :^)" bullshit in the dust and have everybody kill each other. That's what would bring me back, at least, and I know I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment.and give gladiator another armor set holy shit please
>still no shield and mace knight hero because the final slot was wasted on some unknightly trash like griphon>conq's fashion is still trash, BP's shield and sword are comically big for one handersAt least let me get a small round shield or a big square one, not this big triangle. DSpeaking of BP, did they add any "holy" looking armors? I switched platforms recently so I'll have to grind his levels again to see what's new. I wish they would rework him so his offense is no longer just bash into light.
Jorm's rework is pretty strong. Damage is very high and the new chain zone attack is really fun to use. Gonna miss the neutral bash though.
>>782745It truly was a strange choice to add faces. They had a great thing going with all the nameless faceless execution bait badasses at the start.
At this point I think they should go all in on the fashion autism. It’s a crime that they put out different chromas worth 10,000 in game currency and there’s only one faction that gets to use them properly
how good is aramusha? i just got the game i like musashi miyamoto
>>788088Fantastic duelist and solid at team modes. Very difficult to kill if you know what you're doing. Worth picking up for sure. Honestly though, if you're brand new, tier lists are not going to be super relevant to you for a while. If Ara ends up not clicking with you just pick up somebody else you think looks cool.
>>786005Testing grounds is fucking insanity right now.>8 Jorms in a match>One gets his chain bash off in a team fight>Speakers immediately blown out by every other Jorm on his team jamming heavy for the follow-up slam on the downed opponent>Healthbar evaporated instantly
>>788088Just play what you want regardless of character strength. Even the previously worst character in the game, Nuxia, was passable because she was so seldomly played that most people had no idea what the fuck to do against her.
ok i just got the gamei'm playing with a ps4 controller on steam and it's giving me a lot of issues, sometimes my camera points to the sky and at other times it doesn't let me guard/lock-on peoplewhat the fuck do i do about this? just lost my first match because of it
>>788401also why is alt tabbing so painful?
>>788401>>788435The game is shit so alt tabbing and the like will fuck it up. You will have much better luck with an xbox controller
>>746962Bushido Blade is more fun
okJorm got hisNOW GIVE ME HIGHLANDER CHANGES
Why doesn't Gryphon have a stance?he supposedly learned a bunch of bullshit from Jiang Juns, Highlanders, and Nobushis yet he has no stance
Happy New Year, fellow RAH enthusiastsLet us hope the game gets a bigger budget this year
What does this mean?
>play glad >constantly BM at every opportunity for maximum immersion anyone else?
>>746962>play 30 minute match>last 2 minutes>kicked for connection error
>>799428I'm nice on Glad until my enemy annoys me in any way.
>>799916if you don’t have the maximum bm emotes/executions equipped, and are not spamming them 24/7, do not play the kit
>create ranked>make exclusive content for every hero exclusively obtainable as a reward for ranked >every single bit of content is random with no way to guarantee getting the content outside of grinding >no way to guarantee you’ll get a single piece of said exclusive content for any given match>real money DLC characters have one ornament and a handful of outfit colors>post heavy season characters have nothing to unlock>even if they did they would be indistinguishable shoulder ornaments >if you do decide you like post heavy season characters there’s no system in place to pick a hero to specialize unlocks for>all of this is fine because the “ranked” gamemode is still in betagreat game
>>802074Forgot this part>make a $20 DLC for four heroes >tack on a single player mode to justify the fact your customers are paying real money for content that normally can be bought for in-game currency >create exclusive content for every hero to sell the real money dlc>”forget” to make content for any new hero for the ranked mode that players don’t have to pay to play the pathetic part is Ubisoft is too stupid to just straight up sell these ornaments for $.99 a pop
i genuinely like this game
>>802776It's a fun game with unique gameplay and also incredibly annoying issues.
>>802776It's the only fighting game I still play, it just feels right.
I remember playing the beta and would just waste time seeing all the different kill animations on the soldiers. It's not fair, give them back.
>>802806lmao host left. I can't believe this game used to be peer to peer. Even six years ago when it came out that was jank.
>>802811The good old days.
>>802806what was the reason the got removed? Too much effort for new characters?
>>802866that and compniggers
>>802870Esports ruining things for everyone else yet again
TAI CHI SWORD STANCEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zqlCQ9iUXg
>>802870This is a complete falseflag btwYou could always just lock on to do your wide attacks, you never once had to look at a minion kill animation if you didn't want to.Hell, some characters STILL have to lock on because their unlocked attacks are from the top.It was "We didn't want to animate them" in its entirety. "They weren't as good for clearing" was just another """bonus""" thing they mentioned to try to make people less mad.
leaving breach matches if victory isnt guranteed in the first 3 minutes
>load into breach match that has already startedI leave>on attack the ram has lost more than a quarter of its health before the first gate goes downI leave>on defense the enemy team takes the first rampart on the first pushI leave>there more than one warmonger on the enemy team in a breach matchI leave>enemy gets the shield banner I leave>enemy kills the guardianI leave>enemy steals the guardian kill somehowI shit piss and die
>>804368>>804377Why would you ever play Breach. Ubi abandoned that mode and you should too.
>>804600Orders, and it's not like Ubi is taking care of any game mode anyway.
It's incredible how awful Inferno Dominion is.
>>772085Superior reflexes > xp
>piss pants drunk>1000% better at the game but why?
>>806699Unpredictable and overly aggressive offense is key to victory
I abandoned this game not long before Medjay came out, how's the state of things these days?
>>808257No significant shakeups since Medjay--nothing on the scale of removing option selects or the CCU. Quality of life improvements for a bunch of characters. Reworks are mostly good--generally targeting characters that were lower on the tier list and moving them up. New hero announcement next week I think? New hero announcement not this Thursday, but the one after. Probably pretty quiet until then.
>>808264>Quality of life improvements for a bunch of characters. Specifically, it's worth pointing out that every character that didn't have a dodge attack before has one now.
>>808257>>808264There was the testing grounds for Jorm, kind of ironic that the first unique character they've released in years was a rework
Reworked Valk is fucking disgusting
>>811331I have no idea how to get through her as highlanderthe only things I can somewhat consistently punish are her dodge lights + CCing her chained heavies
>>808257Tiandi got a busted as shit rework and is by far one of the best in the game now
I bought this game on release and played it only for the first three or four months before moving on to other stuff. Is it worth coming back to?Also I liked playing Shugoki and the spear lady, are they good at the moment?
>>811944which spear lady? the viking spear lady or the japanese spear lady?also it's worth coming back to if you find it funif you aren't having fun then no
>>811944oh wait I completely misread what you wroteyesit's a significantly (better?) game than it was after launchthere are certain things about post launch FH that are more "soulful", but despite all its problems the game as it is now is waaaay betterstill unique 1-of-a-kind, third-person, medieval fantasy fighting gamethe viking spear lady just got a really good (basically overpowered) rework so she's very viable and easy to pick upthe japanese spear lady is nuanced and skillful, though as characters go kind of mediocrepick whatever character you think looks the coolest and go with that
>>811974>new HL and glad armor sets never ever
>>811798Good, she deserves it after being shit for so long
>>783682Gryphons bardiche, and varangian are cool, though. His move set is fun, and not absurdly dumb, but his fashion beyond the base to mid sets are ugly. Conq has a few good things, but yeah. >bpThere is this shield that is divided into 4 quadrants, and has snakes and coat of arms symbolism on it, so it kinda works. For Fashion never fails me.
>>813921>shitbeing a comfortable low A-tier isn't being shitI still have no idea why Tiandi of all characters got a rework when Nuxia, Highlander, Nobushi, etc were already in greater need of love before Tiandi's rework
>shield and mace heroFucking love it, been wishing for it for years now.>not a knight>gender lockedIt's a pity but I'll take it.Now the question is if she can be made white/asian or did they coward out again.
>>817699She's fully covered aside from the eyes and hands in some of her armor variations, plus her default skin color is already fairly light, so I don't think it matters too much
post>hopes>expectations >fears >hopesform swap ala Highlander between mace/shield and two handing mace no full-block stance can actually tell materials are equipped good perks for 4’s>expectations broken at release, top tier after tweaks infinite heavy-light/light-heavy chainsoft feint bash >fearsyet another full block heavy yet another unblockable spam hero copy-paste either heavy or hybrid perks
>>817731They just revealed her, look up the stream on twitch.
>locked another hero's sexDamn, I feel like they're doing it to save money. I really dislike this restriction, except for when it fits the character's inspiration (valk, and nobushi for example). It's silly, but at least it isn't like medjay where they say they are respectful of Egyptian history, only to shit all over it with medjay aka lebron james.
>>817746I meant kit specifics, unless you meant that as well
>>817770They've shown off her entire kit, emotes, executions, feats and armor sets.
Didn't expect this shithole to resurface here why u niggers not on vg? Anyway i'm currently reinstalling last time i played was during kyoshin did i miss something big?
>>817789>why u niggers not on vgThread is too slow to survive /vg/As for the game, mostly just general balance changes. There's a fifth "anything goes" faction now, the newest hero posted earlier is part of that.
>>817789>expecting FH to survive on /videogames - gacha/
>>817953I won’t stand for you badmouthing the man saving this game
>>818016>gives buffs to some of the already strongest characters in the game>gives zerk retard mode recovery cancels, turning an already brainless button mash hyper armor playstyle into an even more brainless button mash hyper armor playstylefat retard is probably a kyoshin main
>new hero is a mace user but she flipsREEEEAlso this would have people be fucking livid on /Fhg/
>>818073Because it's a female hero, an Arabian, not a knight, or some combo? Frankly, I like Afeera. I do wish other heroes were allowed to move as agile or she was not genderlocked, but fuck, I'm just happy it's not more recycled animations.And fuck spoiled knight lovers who want ANOTHER FUCKING HERO, they have nine!
member when a Hero had unique content that created a sense of identity? At least we got based JoJo references though
is this game still alive on PC? haven't played in years
>>818621>is this game still alive on PC?Yes
>>818626Cool! I wonder if i can link the Uplay account to Steam i used to play on that stinky platform
>>818189You do have to consider that half of the knights are wasted slots. On an unrelated note this is the first time I've been excited for a new hero in years
>>818958kind of the same. I did think Pirate would be cool (I was wrong), Medjay is at least interesting and probably one of the few Hybrids who really earns it. He'd be better with some adjusted animations and gameplay. Also genderunlocked but that's kind of beating a dead horse. I do hope that for all the crazy kicks Afeera can do will mean she can have Haymaker as one of her feat options in tier 2. I don't care if it's not the most practical choice, I love the idea of kicking someone so hard it had a chance to kill them.As a side note, which knights do you feel are wasted slots and what could replace them? I mean, off the top of my head, Warmonger is a big one since she really should have just been some Warden move tweaks and new armor sets (maybe make an Astrea hero skin later). Gryphon kind of another, but it's more because he probably should have been a viking given his base gear.
>>819073NTA but if Glad/Cent were released today they would probably be a better fit in the Outlanders. Cool heroes but they kind of sit outside the aesthetic of the Knights
In retrospect, it's kind of funny how fucking fast they completely gave up on trying to make diverse characters within the framework of Knights Viking Samurai and just started rehashing characters, reusing weapons and now turning the game into Deadliest Warrior
>>796743Probably meant "balanced"
>>817746>>817773I miss realistically plausible movesets
>>819073>>819281You guys hit the nail on the head on my feelings on the "unfortunate" knights. Cent/Glad are great but not knights, WM is redundant and Gryphon has the armor of literally everyone but knights
i feel like im only fighting premades for the last couple hours i hate my life
>>746962How many years without Warborn again?Shamonkey and Huldra don't count. Highlander is honorary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnSIpt4TV0IPlay Naraka Bladepoint
>>822176wtf bros why isn't my adblock working?
>>822892Because it's my personal recommendation, not an ad.
>>822940Your personal recommendation is a chinkoid b*ttle r*yale
>>822176>censored>devs say they can delete your account if you don't play it enoughLol, no thanks.
>>782427I didn't mind the charecter driven designs, I just wished they only used them for the Boss charecters (Warmonger, Kyoshin, and thr axe viking that'll never be).Something rubs me the wring way about Warmonger, she's not "final boss"y enough for me
>>783682You kind of got your wish, the weapons are a bit smaller tho.
Anybody else misses old Conq? Didn't like how people turtled with him so I understand the changes, but I'm disappointed with the rest of the moveset change as it loses personality? You didn't have feints but had unique soft-feints which fitted chain weapons for me.
>>823393Yes. I feel this way with several characters. Conq, LB, Cent, Raider, Orochi, Shinobi, Musha, Tiandi. Mostly for Raider, Orochi and Shinobi however. I create these rigid character profiles in my head and significant changes shatter my view of them, and I can be very slow to adapt unfortunately. Picrel was me after Orochi and Raider changes
Holy shit Warden fucking sucks nowadays!!!!You kinda have to play to bait parry, it's awfull lmaoMeanwhile everyone else is throwing lights like monkeys and dodge attacking everything jesus christ what had they done to this game?
Are my girls Warmonger and Kensei still good?
>>776457I fucking HATE that they gave the Italo-Norman helmet to Valk.At least it was fun turning her into a Ptolemaic Greek
>>817720>they only deviate from their new policy of overwatch facereveal "personaility" on the muslim femaleloving every laugh
>>819324Is it? The new "faction" of characters that don't fit into that framework are all the most requested characters from the fanbase. Pirate, Egyptian, and some sort of Saracen.I would argue that if these were the first characters to be released the game might have maintained it's initial popularity even longer.
>>819281You've got to remember when they came out they were really trying to make the faction war work.
>>823393There was literally no difference between Conqd faints and anyone else's. You don't get to stop a flail just because you stopped swinging it a second earlier than someone swinging a sword did.Old Conq didn't have a fucking movement. They had shield bash. That was literally it. They didn't have personality, their personality was shield bash. They literally didn't have a single other usable attack for years.The only cool thing about old conq was that you could parry dodge attacks after shield bashing which was the hypest shit despite being completely broken.
>>824164I agree that Conq's design was historically trash but it's worth noting that, while his offense was essentially limited to bash > light, he had a shitload of defensive tools. He had mulitple option selects for just about any kind of offense. His zone alone countered a ton of offense. The result was a character that was frustratingly difficult to kill but at the same time did piss-poor damage, effectively having to kill you with light attacks over the course of several stamina bars. Every single fight with old Conq lasted an eternity for this reason. Either you killed him after successfully penetrating his ridiculous defense enough times, or he killed you after landing a thousand fucking bash-lights. In Dominion this essentially meant that every fight involving a Conq was just stalling until team mates arrived. Horrible character. Much better now. idgaf about "character identity" when your identity is awful.
Afeera can infinite opponents if she can wall them once
>>824751The directional attack means it kind of has to be into a corner and not just a wall, otherwise you will slap them away from the wall in like 2 hits
>>824751That didn't take long.
>>824948>Low pick rate>Proportionally high winrateNuxia bros, we're the real winners here. *breathes in copium*
>>824948>>824995As someone that spammed heavies with Nuxia I always liked her and constantly caught people. I just don't really keep grinding characters after I get their optimal gear and desired fashion.
>Didn't play that much after Medjay because I didn't like him that much>didn't realize that all the Egyptian weapons were tied to that battle pass or somethingFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I CAN NEVER GET THEM NOW
>>825184Nuxia is garbo but her saving grace is that occasionally you'll kill a guy because he keeps thinking you're going to trap and you heavy him five times in a row and he eats every fucking one.
>>748014>do you think a poor kit (Nuxia/Jorm) can be salvaged in 4’s with busted perks?Sure, that was my favorite character's identity back in the day, could pressure multiple zones without ever going there, break up fights and the secondary set of perks was really cool for just letting you do dumb shit and not get punished for it.>what do you miss most about the old game before CCU?I miss reaction parrying lights and deleting half of someone's health bar. I miss occasionally letting a raw top heavy fly. I miss all characters having understandable and logical animations to the point I was able to play without markers when not sweating too much. I miss minion clearing animations. I know the gameplay was shit and I was clearly part of the problem (being a Rep 70 Lawbringer), but it just felt different. I sort of miss the old Highlander-Lawbringer /fhg/ rivalry retardation.All in all I miss playing For Honor. I sometimes want to install it again but I know it isn't the game I fell in love with and I'm afraid of ruining the memories I had.
>>825208Also I miss the "soon" poster. Shame he never got what he wanted.
Afeera is a trash ganker. Which is to say, she's trash.
>>824948Fucking hitokiri having the highest winrates being the most braindead hero.
Some characters have mismatched animations on some attacks, how is this even allowed?
>>824826not turning the game on until then, this shit is mad gayshe was actually fun to fight against too for the 1 day before people figured her infinite out
Damn, people are still playing this shit? I remember playing for a couple months when it just came out, won a local 1v1 tourny, made my money back, also won a 2v2 tourny but the organisers never paid out. Mained warden but played warlord in the tournies because it was so unbelievably OP on launch
>>826372Most populated "fighting game" by a wide margin
>>747303No one cares about your opinion roastie
>>824948surprised orochi isn't significantly higher since the infinite storm rush combo is unreactable on console
Why can't they just delete the Wu Lin, worst fucking faction next to outlanders.
>>825752They could delete Hitokiri from the game and I would not be upset in the slightest.
>haha yeah bro Im totally playing Hitokiri because I think they're cool>what do you mean? of course I think this muppet troll hair is cool!
>>829551Same reason they'll never delete warmonger.>>830379I'd be okay with hito being removed if the samurai got a new heavy hero. Sort of the same with kyoshin except make it a vanguard and distribute kyoshin's fashion and some of their moves across ara, roach, and kensei.
Heroes that should be deleted because they are just terrible designed, a wasted slot or don't belong in the game.ConquerorWarmongerGryphonJormHitokiriShinobiThe WulinPirateMedjayOn top of that any modern rework that's just speending up shit and adding garbage animations should be deleted.
Funny to see they finally gave up trying to shill competitive dominion after seeing how utterly garbage their balance is to the point they just gave up on trying to make 4v4s balanced with hitstun and feats.
>duel against hero I never play against>lose>opponent quits lobbyHow am I supposed to get match up experience
Yo why the fuck did they gave orochi a fucking bash with a terrible kick animation, this character is pure cancer.
>>832953He got it in exchange for getting rid of his 400ms chain light and 3-light chain. People bitched about light spamming Orochi so Ubi gave them bash spamming Orochi.
>>832339i had a friend buy the character and we play duels every dayso now when anyone plays afeera but do not play like my friend i get bodied
wow I'm just like Nuts from BerserkI'm such a heckin strugglerlike bro I'm such a fountain of willpower
>>833493I think I'm feeling the struggle nowthis is hard
>>824948Why does everyone always talk about how bad Nuxia is when those three are somehow even worse?
>>833792I would argue that the only reason Nuxia isn't the absolute rock bottom, is she is played so little that a huge portion of the playerbase doesn't actually know anything about her kit.If a nuxia player plays 3 matches theres probably a good chance they'll encounter one (1) person who actually knows how her traps work.If people actually wanted to play a chinese ballerina then her winrate would probably be at the very bottom
>>824948I've been getting into this game lately. As I've started to actually learn what different characters do I have been astounded by all the shit Jiang Jun is allowed to get away with in his kit.>Dodge attacks where he can change the direction of the dodge attack mid attack.>Neutral bash with no GB vulnerability in recovery because he can attack out of the recovery.>Hyperarmor on heavy openers.>Can stance out of every recovery, including the aforementioned dodge attacks. (except his bash and unblockable zone)>Can string his unblockable heavy and his unblockable zone together to effectively have an infinite unblockable chain.>Hitboxes so large that it doesn't even matter that he lacks an undodgeable.>Unblockable sprint attack with two swift attacks so you can't roll away from it and have to lock in and parry it.>140 health>Insane stamina recovery because of his stance.>If enemy is close to and in front of a wall he gets a heavy punish and stamina damage off a heavy parry.And that's not even mentioning how all this synergizes in a team fight. Why the hell did they make him so ridiculous?I know he's basically supposed to be Guan Yu, so he's just the Chinese god of war, but really???Feels like they were pandering to China or something by making him the absolute undeniable best, even after a history of nerfs and adjustments.What the fuck.
>>833493I’m embarrassed that I browse a website originally dedicated to anime/mange and it took a general about a retarded fighting game to learn that symbol was from Berserk>>830940Literally genuinely on god no cap frrl frrl skill issue
I would suck this game’s dick until my dying days if not for the fact they did away with unique emotes and executions in favor for retarded generalized goofy bullshit
I kind of like Afeera but man, she feels weird since she feels like an assassin but looks like a heavy.
So are all Black Priors evil or just the ones still following Vortiger? Also what happened to the Iron Legion?
>>818189>>818958>>819073Centurion, Gladiator, Shaman an Highlander should be moved to Outladners, Griffin an Warmonger should be deleted.
>>834409>Highlander moved to outlandersIf this comes accompanied with a full rework and 4 highlander-exclusive feats then you got yourself a deal.
>>834837I mean he's got Champion's aura and Spear Storm. Not sure if either is still exclusive though. Also seems weird spear storm isn't the Viking Siege feat instead of Fire Flask.
>>835144Spear Storm is still exclusive, though Gryphon stole Champion's AuraBut I was thinking more along the lines of medjay's feat lineup where everything is dependent on the stance you're inHighlander already has different activation times and recovery times for feats based on stance so why not just go all the way
>>835467I'd welcome new reworks just coming with 4 unique feats and no other options. Swappable feats don't add much to the game, and newer heroes usually use most if not all of their uniques anyway. Easier to balance, adds more of that "character identity" everyone's always on about. I'd just as soon get rid of the generic feats entirely (or move them to particular heroes as uniques).
>>834119yeah, JJ has always been a very good character. The only reason you don't see him often is because he's a chink. You can feint the second sprint attack too by the way
>>748458Its genuinely impresive how they made the most tilting multiplayer game in existance. Ive raged more in the 100 hours i put into it than probably all other games combined. Cant understand why anyone still plays this shit. Its like they made a good combat system and decided to let 1/3rd of the characters fuck it in the ass.
>>836536I remember making an almost identical post to yours many hundreds of hours ago>ok so attacks have a startup, a damage period/moment, and a recovery>haha bro what if like you could dodge attack out of every recovery haha or like haha what if you could full block out of every single recoveryjust beyond retarded misunderstanding of their own fundamental mechanics and core balancethe only thing that keeps me invested is how fun (albeit strained in the current year) Highlander's kit is and that epic gallowglass nordic-gaelic fashionI have like 800 hours in the game and 760 of them are spent on Highlander
>>836536I hate this game and yet every time I tell myself I quit, I come crawling back days later.
>>834038The small difference in win rate doesn't matter much, "pros" consider at least Warden and Cent to be just as trash as Nuxia in Dominion.
>>838343pros don't fucking matterhow easy something is to initiate vs how difficult it is to avoid/counter in pubs is all the matters which is why Hitokiri mashing timed heavies and bashes is S tier in pubs even though actually top tier players can deal with her
>can make european knights and norse vikings black>can't make egyptian character whitehmmm.
>>838438Really makes you think.
>main warden>every fight is a struggle>try out valk>don't even have to try lmaoI hate this.
>>839844Just play Warmonger lmao
>>839853Don't even get me started on Warmonger being a better Warden in every aspect.
Is it me or is Afeera just the most retardedly unfair busted hero they put up since release shaman. It feels like there's just fucking nothing you can do if she gets any kind of combo going.
anyone have an understanding of how 4v4’s MMR works? I’ve got a 60-ish% WR but it’s on a super low total rep account so most of the people I play kinda suck
>>840287She has a lot of problems.>The infinite bash > heavy against walls allowing her to unload her whole stamina bar on you after a wallsplat>Fiddly rules/timings for when you're allowed to dodge the chain kick; sometimes it's impossible to dodge (e.g. if you block her running attack she will land the chain kick, there's nothing you can do)>Tier 1 feat confirms Tier 3 feat confirms heavy for 77 damage>The heavy wallsplat > heavy damage is just really fucking high. All of her bashes threaten (I don't recall off the top of my head but around) 53 damage any time you're near a wall AND if she gets you, you're immediately back into the same mixup threatening that damage again. Fighting her in a hallway is fucking anxiety inducing and she can nuke your healthbar in seconds.They fixed the infinite. I have to imagine the confirmed chain kick stuff isn't intended, so I'm guessing that'll be fixed soon. As far as the tier 1 confirming the tier 3 and the high damage on the wallsplat heavy, I don't know. I think the feats shouldn't confirm and I think the damage on the left finisher heavy needs to come down, but we'll see if Ubisoft agrees.To answer your question though, no she isn't. The most unfairly busted hero release in For Honor's history was Warmonger, who was fucking obscene for like a full week. Her t1 had a much shorter cooldown (I wanna say it was 45 seconds?), a much longer duration, and triggered off ~minions~, meaning that you basically could not engage her in the minion lane. If she landed one hit on you, you and all of your minions would immediately die, nuking each other for shitloads of damage and conveniently also clearing minion lane for her. Her t4 had a significantly shorter cooldown as well. Her t1 was basically always available, making ganking impossible. Games essentially came down to who had more Warmongers. She was pure cancer.
>>840645Ubi confirmed at some point that rep doesn't matter at all (at release it was purely based on rep, which was retarded, and eventually they changed it). If I had to guess I'd say it's pure W/L but afaik Ubi's never talked any more about it than that.
>>840660I guess even if it is totally W/L low rep lends itself to a higher WR than is necessarily true for a given player. I know I’m not great but the guys I’m playing range from dogshit to slightly better than me
>>840657this makes me sad I was taking a break when Warmommy was released. I was there for OG Cent and Shaman, feels bad not to have seen a fuckup that bad in person
>ledge-camping warlord/raider duoThere's a place in hell for people like this
>slightly higher than your enemy >slightly higher than your ally gamer time
this is the first time I have ever seen someone who I thought was genuinely cheating in dom15 and 0parried every single light thrown both from openers and from chains
I hate the Wu Lin and the Outlanders, fucking garbage characters that don't belong in the game.
>>842050Yeah, seen that too. Score lead by a wide margin, zero deaths, literally parried every attack thrown at him.
>new (0 rep) account >100% WR in brawls >won first/only game>next match fires >ally/enemy skill slightly higher so it can’t be entirely winrate right? Anyone have any idea what’s happening here?
Did they change the combat flow? Took a good 5-7 months break from For Honor and everything feels, idk.... Slow? Feel like there's more input lag. I can't really explain it, there just not enough combat flow. Maybe I just been playing TF2 alot lmao but I actually had fun. Would not care if For Honor went F2P, I want to wreck Vtuber and twitch streamers so badly.>t.playing For Honor since 2017
>>843978nothing majorbut they continue to add recovery cancels, especially dodge outing of recoveriesBerserker can now dodge out of ALL attack recoveries
>>843978>I want to wreck Vtuber and twitch streamers so badly.Same, but you don't want to off put people by giving the impression that the playerbase is nothing but sweats
>>845575>retards who think they’re sweats FTFY
>Afeera guard switch bug still not fixedThese devs are so fucking incompetent, it's the ubisoft trademark.
do FH players really?
>>846972Don't they stone LGBT people in Turkey?
>>846976probably in the interior, but not in Constantinople
>get invited to teams>they're usually filled with suspicious gms and gigaautists>make it clear i only play for fun and dont wanna sweat every game >mess up one punish and they freak the fuck out and rage quit>they expect me to know every 0 to 100 gank with every character and to only play optimal characters>they spend every game sweating and raging in chat then try to argue with me because i picked nobushi or jorm im so fucking sick of these autistic retards, i dont wanna suffer with randoms, i just wanna have FUN
Ganking is too fucking easy in this game, you literally can just interrupt the oponent with a light in everything he does and GB his recoveries. How the fuck do they pretend this garbage is epsorts ready.
>>847632I remember how hard they used to shill Dominion Series, and everytime it came out in dev streams people spammed the resident sleeper emote to the point they had to ban it. But it seems they gave up on trying to make the game competitive since they don't even bother "fixing" maps anymore
>Changing Jorm's cancerous stamina drain playstyle to displacement cancer playstyleThese devs are fucking retarded
>>850199HITSTUN IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT
recently I have started playing shaman with stealth and the reluctant applause emoteI will rush minions just enough to unlock stealth at T1then I will proceed to just run around the map, forcing my team to loseI will regularly hide until the timer runs outusually everyone on my team leaves after they watch me just lying a bush clapping for too longI do not hope for a better world for anyoneI just hate For Honor and everyone that plays itI hurt myself the most by wasting my time playing, especially when I'm not even playing the game and just griefing my teamthis confession has meant nothing
I'm addicted to this unbalanced fucking bullshit fucking sword gameand im not even good at it
>>851971>>852198You're here forever.
>>850995Oh yes i love being stunlocked to dead.
anyone else getting disconnected every match today?
>play shinobi>enjoying it and can't remember why I stopped>suddenly reminded when reflex guard makes me eat chain attacks while being ganked
WARMONGER HAS TOO MANY FUCKING IFRAMES ON HER DODGE ATTACK GOD FUCKING DAMN SHE IS LITERALLY INVINCIBLE FOR 2 YEARS WHILE USING THIS STUPID SHIT
Use to play this on console years ago and fucking loved and seeing on sale makes me wanna buy it for pc. Can any ausfags tell me how alive it is in our region
>>853035it has the "extended dodge" property like with JJ and Gryphon's dodgesshe just gets extra i-frames because... uh...
>>853514Because having feint-able dodge-attack unblockables and frame-advantage on every attack wasn't enough.
>>853522so let's exame JJ's dodge attacks>can be full feinted with stance and followed up by an unblockable zone>can change guard direction mid-attack>massive sweeping hitbox for externalling people >extended dodge i-framesjust fucking disgusting
>>853035>>853514SHE GETS EXTRA I FRAMES BECAUSE IT'S OKAY FOR HER, IT'S A LONG ASS HEAVY ATTACK THAT CAN'T BE MIXED UP INTO ANYTHING BESIDES A FEINT, FUCK YOU SHE DESERVES THIS.
>>854693noshe deserves one or the othereither she gets to feint it or it has crazy i-framesas it is now she is basically an option selecting shithead>can initiate the move to force a reaction out of an opponent, and then feint it and react to the opponent's misread>can also just use it as a regular dodge attack>can string this shit together with itself to dance around dodge attacking for 15 seconds like fucking Tiandi before she runs out of staminahaving extended i-frames on top of everything else makes it overtunednowhere near as bad as current valk of course in terms of option selects
>>854800YOU CAN JUST GUARDBREAK HER OUT OF IT! IT HAS 466MS OF GB VUNERABILITY AND MAKES IT SO THAT YOU CAN'#T JUST LIGHT HER OUT OF IT
Glad's 5th set is coming in S1 TU2.
Lawbringer and Nuxia reworks comingTest Your Metal hinted as the throwback event
Pirate hero skin.
>>855678Gotta be TYM right? That Kyoshin in the trailer had jet black armor. If it isn't I will nuke both Quebec and France from orbit.
>>855686I think so yes, would be some excellent trolling if it wasn't.
>No Tendies/Valk nerf>Afeera damage stays the same>Jorm now has a 30 damage feintable bash on top of his unfun feats>Not a single feat improvement, feats are still the most unbalanced part of the game>Damage slowly going back to pre CCU levels>Another overtuned rework but for lawbringer>Not a single map improvement>4v4s are still a messWhat the fuck is wrong with these devs, i guess dodge heavies getting BTFO is good.
Trash rework for Lawbringer.
I don't see why LB needed anything other than the new 3 hit chains + some hyperamorwhat is this wack ass feinted UB heavy into bash shitwack wack wack
>be freeze>m-muh pro players>m-muh dodge attack punishes>n-no you stop whining lol what a faggot
Kind of a long shot, but I don't suppose anyone here saved a mirror of the old /fhg/ mega folder full of reactions/memes/lewds/whatever else? The old one got nuked a while ago for whatever reason.
>>840657Update: as of next week, all of the things in this post will be fixed, with the exception of the side heavy damage which hasn't been touched yet. With the other stuff getting fixed it might not be as big a deal. Still strong but maybe Afeera won't piss me off as much in general.
The number one thing this game needs is more side dash heavies and lights and probably quicker zone attacks that are unblockable. Probably give bleed and deflects to everyone too………
The LB rework is making reddit seethe, if it also makes freeze seethe this rework is gonna be golden.
>>857194https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfI125CqfngIt's funny to see him seethe.The game is 7 years old and the devs are still incompetent morons.
>>857388LMAO, poor guy, at this point lawbringer lives rent free inside his head.
No bash should guarantee a heavy.No bash should be feintable.Fuckings devs.
>>857538He got mindbroken by the retarded Raider rework and stunning tap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF3uzZ7a6zwHe has been seething ever since they changed it because he actually thought it was a good addition to the game.
>>858714>no bash should guaruntee a heavy lsure, but if it's an 800ms bash, you have to make a read. it's what this game is now.>no bash should be feintableyou're just seething, feinting bashes is fine
Just play a better game.
>>859283You underestimate my power.
>3000 hours>still shit
>>858717Freeze is a moron and a hypocrite. It is funny how redditors complain about the game being bad when they are the ones that are running it into the ground. The stupidity of the For Honor community is on a whole new level.
>>859620I put the blame on Ubisoft, they are getting paid for this and they really fucking stupid when it comes to movesets.
>>858714I'll say no move that pins you down should guarantee a heavy. It's pretty much an insta kill in any gank considering ganking is already braindead easy and revenge is useless.
>>860545Pin down moves like Centurion's are good since its a charged bash. But cancer like Shaolin's or Valk's sweep are lazy and too easy to access, thus cancer to fight against in a gank.
>receive mail about new inquisitor skin, it looks really nice>remember playing this shit ages ago, the incredibilis line still lives rent free inside my head>check out the thread>the overall sentiment towards the game is the same people have towards LoLI was this close to installing it.
>Nu Jorm has an infiniteCan't make this shit up
>3+ jorms every matchI am already tired of the new season.
>ConqMake unblockable attacks only accessible through charging your heavy and allow for charging mid-chainOnly the 180 degree swing should be guaranteed after any shield bashGive him back his high damage uppercut after fullblockRemove hard feint in favor of soft feint into allblock except for the in-chain slow bash
This update is making all "competitive" try hards seethe so hard lmao
>>863038What's even the issue?
>Jorm now has a 30 damage feintable bash that pinds you down and you can't guard break on dodge.These fucking devs.
>>862915Remove his retarded free guard break slide magnet he always get when you try to dodge his spam. Conqueror have the most dumb luck skill he can get, I dunno how he gets away with it, and I been playing this game since betaAlso RIP me, I bought for honor standard edition 4 days ago for my friend so we would play together, and didn't realize the spring steam sale would be on the next day, could have bought him the ultimate edition for 24 bucks ;~;
>MedjayThe nigga isn't weak by any means but he's boring s fuck when compared to other dual stance heros. What I want from him is:Holding down light/heavy for 0.5 seconds changes stance mid-chain like Highlander/Shaolin, but unlike them the stance is permanent unless changed again.If the stance is changed mid-chain, the previous attack is remembered for attack property purposes (unblockable second heavy in axe form, hyper armor heavy in staff form).Makes him a lot more interesting and adds more depth to his gameplay.
>>865089Medjay has broken hitboxes, that's the only reason he is strong. Ubisoft is retarded and they still haven't fixed them.
Highlander>slowest character in the game, tied only with Shugoki who has built in hypersprint>in addition to this he has no chase>you can safely unlock roll away from his entire kit unless he happens to be in the middle of doing a celtic curseso if you're fighting HL and you're losing you can literally just unlock roll and run away and he won't be able to punish you for it>no openers other than lights and celtic curse>700 ms neutral bash with GB vulnerability (can only be used in reaction to a whiffed move with an actual recovery)>600 ms grab with GB vulnerability (really only decent for making a great opening read and grabbing them from a distance out of a forward movement)>the grab does 40 stamina damage each though the opponent gets all their stamina back afterwards anyway making it completely pointless>kick to caber literally doesn't work on 95% of the cast>heavy to caber and heavy to kick only work if the opponent tries to parry the heavy>but why would you parry since you can just option select the move and all subsequent feints with a dodge attack and deal more damagethe only saving grace for this character is hyperarmor, decentish feats, vengeful barrier, and Offensive Stance light spamwhat an dated and impotent messpainful to play, but big sword man is still cool
>>865163>Tiandi and Conq lower than Highlanderbut I thought they were A/S tierwhat happened comp esports bros??????
>>865228not to mention that all those useless Offensive Stance feints cost like half your stamina to pull off including the followup heavy if you actually did land them
The dodge changes made Zhanhu insufferable to play against, holy
>>865228HL is fine and fun to play the way he is now, he does not need any touching whatsoever. Also you forgot about his wavedash, which can close gaps easlily.
>>865278I am very proficient at wavedashing and I can pretty easily keep up with even assassins BUT offensive lights have no range and the transition from offensive stance to neutral for the celtic curse to actually chase is too slow for the celtic curse to actually reach them making the point mooteither give him a offensive stance chase, defensive stance chase, or an actual chase sprint attack
>>865273600ms enhanced dodge attacks that can be come from either directionhaha weeeeeee
>>865278>speed up at least one of this opener heavies so he gets a heavy off GB like everyone elseI know getting 18 from his zone isn't really terrible like a 12 damage light, but the zone doesn't chain into anything so you're better off lighting and trying to follow up with something else>gib chasemaking celtic curse undodgeable might be a little obnoxious, but it WOULD make it a chase tool>give his zone a property or speed it up or SOMETHING jesus it's literally only good for a couple meme uses during a fight where you punish a dodge attack or two before they catch on to what you're doing>remove stamina cost for exiting offensive stance>lower the costs of basically everything in offensive stance OR give him the JJ treatment where he has modified stamina regen while in his stanceusing 86 stamina out of 120 for ONE mixup is hilarious thoughoh and I've seen this floated around a time or two ever since they started giving everyone dodge recovery cancels>let highlander dodge out of kick and grab recoveries but still leave them GB vulnerablethough that's more of a schizophrenic pipe dream given how strong wavedashing already is
>>865485It's impressive that the patch made to reduce dodge attack spam gave Zhanhu a dodge attack mixup that is impossible to GB.
>Dodge Shaolin sweep to the left>Still fall down
>>866467The only impressive thing about this pacth is how fucking stupid these devs are.
>>866712Don't you have to dodge right with a delay?
Based For Honor developers bringing us more bants.>https://youtu.be/pk9swWl2Upo
>>867591god I just KNOW I'm gonna see a bunch of tryharding shinobis, JJs, valks, and zhanhus spamming this unfunny shitI cannot WAIT to get option selected and then watch this emote over and over and over again
>>867591I'll probably cop this after we see the April's Fools stuff.
Not a complaint about the balance so probably ignored but the Outlanders should be called Mercenaries and be eligible characters to fulfill any of the three faction specific Orders.
Think they'll ever add a fencer with a rapier to this game?
>>867958Aztec warrior or Spartan hero please.
>>867958>rapierlmao there's no way they'd make it fun to play againstthey'd label it something like>light attack specialist>infinite light light light chainhaha poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke
>>867995While I agree with you, I didn't ask if it would be fun or balanced
>>867991>Spartan heroI'd come on the spot.
>>868041>>867958I'm honestly amazed that they still haven't added a hoplite>feat lineup themed around being near teammates and forming a defensive phalanx / bulwark>full block stance>long reach>easy to put all kinds of symbols and stuff on the giant disk shieldthough knowing Ubi they'd probably just steal most of the animations from Valk
>>868243im amazed we got a fucking pirate before we get a hoplite. im surprised we got romans at all
Wish gear pieces could be altered per hero slot, so you could use a 3 perk set up that looks different for each of the 3 slots rather than one cosmetic change affecting all 3 slots
>>746962>hit someone with the thumbs down emote as cent at the start of a fight>he now starts mashing Wow! and emotespamming on my body every time I die for 3 straight matchesFucking hell, I was just trying to add some flavour to the match. Play vs AI if your ego is that fragile. Man I hate this game's playerbase
Man this season is garbage. Devs really don't know what the fuck to do with balance.
>>870330>dodge heavies now have a light parry punish>except the best dodge heavies in the game are omitted from this for some fucking reason, making them even more A/S tier option selecting moves than they already were>the worst dodge heavies that were already bad are not omitted, making them less than worthlessoh and the bash whif chain shit>haha everyone with a dodge bash is now GB vulnerable>but this chain of logic does not apply to jorm who gets to freely throw a hyperarmor heavy upon whiffing his feintable 30 damage in chain bash which has no GB vulnerability to begin withjust fuckin awfuloh wait waitalso the way they did the dodge guard changes is fucking retarded>theres no leeway period where for the first 150 ms or something the guard remains active before going away>this leads to a bunch of akward horseshit where the animation cearly shows that the character should be able to block it, but they just get hit anywaygame feels the worst it's felt in like a year and a halfI have suspected for a long time though that the devs are just a bunch of fat retards who simp for a handful of characters while completely forgetting others exist>tiandi gets a massive overpowered rework while already being A-tier at the time>LB is getting an AWFUL obnoxious raider-tier rework despite also being a comfortable A-tier>Highlander's kit has been basically untouched for 5 years other than getting a dodge heavy and lowered stamina costs on his shitty zone>PK's 7 damage dodge attack is not punishable with a 24 - 30 damage heavy>Warmonger who has straight up the BEST feats in the game and a strong moveset gets more buffs to her dodge attack and chain heavies while Nuxia, the character she stole her feats from, get neglected up until now>Glad, the WORST character in the game, is now nerfed with the chain bash whif changesthey just don't give a shit about certain characters while having a massive boner for others
>>870369Isn't Tiandi the best character in the game now?
>>870556that or valkyriethey both have extremely accessible openers and option selecting counters paired with pretty easy to pull off in-chain flooring moves that allow teammates to get in full heavieshonestly yeah it's probably valk in the #1 spot>great chase with that sprint attack and 7m/s speed + rush>a combination of her full block + bash defeats like 80% of the mixups and openers that can come your way forcing your opponent to hard read you to get the better of you>the above makes her very defensive and great for stalling>good ranged feat for cutting people off from revenge or swaying a 1v1 in your favor>juggernaut, easily the best multi-hero tier 2 feat in the game>if you're feeling really meta you can just run fury flaskif you don't have a consistent way to defeat her block without getting bashed then you're basically fucked
ALSO GOD DAMN IT CAN WE GET ANOTHER PASS ON THE STAMINA DRAIN CHANGESor to be more specificcan we change it so that people only get all their stamina back iff they stand up during Out of Stamina?>land a caber toss on someone as highlander>I am now likely well below half my stamina pool after getting off the following heavy>deal 40 stamina damage with the grab>they stand up with all their shit back, making the 40 stamina drain completel pointlessjust makes me want to only use the kickBUT IT'S A 700 MS NEUTRAL BASH I CAN'T GET ANYONE UNLESS IT'S AFTER DODGING A HEAVY ATTACK OR A BASH
So they nerfed the time BP can enter full guard but Kyoshin can stay in full guard and react to your GB attempt, not to mention he goes into full guard way faster, these devs are so fucking stupid.
>>871408Also the full guard counter with feats stuns you, heals him and bleeds you.
>>871418>>871408hitstun is good game design chudseethe chudbabycrybabyubisoft is perfect and infallablegiant obese retard is literally saving the game and you're crying
>in chain bash that confirms a 30 damage heavy + tons of damage from teammates>can be feinted to a GB>chains into an unblockable heavy on whif, which can displace opponents into a wall netting just about the same damage you'd get if you had landed the bash>no GB vulnerabilityit might be time to go postal at the ol' ubisoft offices after this one boysthere is zero reason not to throw the bash every single time