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>What is BDO
Black Desert Online is an Korean MMORPG developed by Pearl Abyss. It features non-tab targeted action combat, RNG and guaranteed upgrade mechanics, zerg pvp, infinite grinding and a pseudo sandbox experience.

>Latest NA/EU Patch Notes
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice

>Latest KR News
https://www.invenglobal.com/blackdesertonline

>NA/EU Coupon codes
https://incendar.com/bdo_pearl_abyss_coupon_codes.php

>Interactive world map:
https://www.somethinglovely.net/bdo/

>General utility (Boss timer, Imperial, Market Que, Pearl Market, Scroll Profit, Caphras Calc, etc.)
https://veliainn.com
https://bdolytics.com

>Track your grinding session
https://garmoth.com/?msg=noaccess

>Grindspots silver/hr (EU prices)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6vcfKavoo85TcY6Xul6GzR8LNiO5IuXH8F5fZwUrSw/edit#gid=207164060

>/BDOG/ Discord -
https://discord.gg/tFeA8qcXyN

>Black Desert Lewd Mod Discord -
https://discord.gg/4FVrVxM

>Useful Links, Guides, Guilds & Info
UPDATED pastebin again: https://pastebin.com/HTKEmSGP

Last thread: >>629161
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>>687257
>guaranteed upgrade
Lmfao
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I got this game when it was free for a limited time on Steam but I never played it. Is it worth getting into as a semi relaxing game or is it the same mmorpg cancer like everything else?
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sex?
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>>687338
Both, depends on how you approach it, but you can pretty much ignore all dailies if that's what you consider mmo cancer
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shouldn't this be on /vg/?
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>>687761
It wouldn't survive in /vg/. OP fucked up by putting /bdog/ in the subject though.
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I opened a TRI Valtarra belt from one of those dragon boxed yesterday, pretty nice imo
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>tfw get the fishing urge
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>>688246
This festival is a good time to fish
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What the hell are you supposed to do in this game? What is the appeal? PVP is P2W monkeypox and PVE is just endless farming of faceless mobs for no discernible reason. Or chopping wood.
The fuck is the point?
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>>688505
Isn’t every other game on the market that same shit you just pointed out?
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Is maintenance always Tuesday evenings now or is this a one-off?
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i hate how bad succ musa is it's no fair. all it gets is big dick damage and i don't give a shit about that cause the kit is so limited and stam starved. i want cc tools, aoe, mobility, some fucking safety and trading options. i would happily give up massive cock retarded dmg for that. ninja has all that plus a grab or 2 if they play awakening, and way more shit to trade with. ninjas even say that awa is dogshit compared to succ but are still thankful that they have a big kit with many useful tools to play with regardless of the spec they choose. feels like u can't do shit with succ musa and the fking effort required is so unrewarding compared to other hard to learn classes, might as well just play awakening but I like the nioh katana too much. fuckin hell I might just reroll ninja
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>>688998
Time will tell...
>>689105
Play a better class :)
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Patch notes are up.

Basically,
Free value pack buffs
Event to get a 230 Fail stack
and a swim suit alternative look
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>>689166
i dunno what they're thinking when they make the new outfit alternate a forced one-way exchange instead of just an additional toggle option for everyone that owns it when it prob took their 3d modeler only a couple minutes to remove the cape from the outfit. fucking scumbags.
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>>687904
>It wouldn't survive in /vg/.
probably because that board sucks
does this game suck as much as that board does?
seems a lil pay 2 win
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>>689259
Very p2w with a ton of traps where you progress and then hit some "pay 2 convivence" bullshit. You can play completely free to play and get most of what you need from rewards, but it can be tedious after season unless you only play t1, aos, and hunt. I love the game despite these things, but the p2w is bullshit after season until you're like a 2 year vet and got everything you need.
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>>689259
Not pay to win at all these days, just do seasonal, grind centaurs until you get the gear for Serendia Elvia and grind there until the very endgame. You get free pets from the questline and you can buy more from the marketplace if you buy the pets listed in loot boxes, since retards will buy those, get pets and sell them. It can seem p2w, but even selling outfits is hardly better than grinding, unless you get over 60/hr at your job
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>>689281
>Very p2w with a ton of traps where you progress and then hit some "pay 2 convivence" bullshit
can't think of much besides t4 pets, fairy, tent and maids but they give away pets and maids frequently. oh yeah and lifeskill stuff but lifeskills are irrelevant atm
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I miss old BDO combat so much
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>>689538
>Lingering super armor
>Evasion working on CC's
>CC's applying on every hit of the skill
I don't
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>>689166
The outfit change is nice, I really like how it looks from the back. Gonna miss this iteration of the Therrmian event, was pretty fun
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>>689259
>seems a lil pay 2 win
If you spend $30,000 you can buy full hardcap gear, or you grind a lot and spend $20,000. That seems like a lot of money, but keep in mind there's millions upon millions of people who make ~$100k or more a year who are perfectly happy with spending money on what little hobbies they have. So to answer yes this game is insanely P2W. Those numbers aren't random, you can turn your $ into silver in-game by selling cash shop stuff, then use that silver to buy the best gear.
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>>689968
actually it might be random number now that I think about it, I haven't looked into it since I quit a few months ago, but trust me it's fucking P2W
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>>689968
That kind of P2W is timegate since you can only sell 10 costumes a week. It's better to gamble with artisans and crons. Also the prices for everything shifted, so I doubt $30k could hardcap with only hard silver. I know if I spent 5k on this game I could brute force my way to hardcap pretty fast.
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>>689963
I agree I really like the new outfit look. Have you tried any other colors? I'm a bit sad the event place was removed so I never even got a chance to take more screenshots with the new outfit..
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>>689593
It's better than zip zoom in 12 directions that don't exist desync grab then sheathes katana behind u for one shot. Before awakening combat was actually slow paced enough that you know, you could react and desync was a lot less intense bc of it. Besides a lot of what you said are just small number adjustments. You don't need to dial the speed up by 1000x to get rid of lsa, evasionchuds and ccmaxxing.
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>>689593
>>690135
don't get me wrong BDO combat is still fun as fuck but I miss the days when everyone didn't have 15 dashes
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>>689968
>If you spend $30,000 you can buy full hardcap gear, or you grind a lot and spend $20,000
...nigger just buy a pinoyed account for like 3k. Why the fuck would anyone p2w their way in this game with pearls KEK
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>>689259
The biggest p2w game on the market, only overshadowed by literal gacha shit and maybe Neverwinter.
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>>689968
Not to mention it's not even a fun grind. It's just aoeing monster packs for 0.01%. I can't count the number of chink bot wagons I see passing on the road. This game is the typical korean grindfest.. the only korean game I ever enjoyed pvp on was Aoin for like the first two months on release, or lineage 2 back before Kamael was a thing.. this formula aged poorly and is caked milk at this point.
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>>690229
>The biggest p2w game on the market
maplestory is more p2w
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>>689963
post more please
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>>690067
I haven't really had time to play with colors sadly, I don't know what I'd go for though. I only took like a single screenshot at the event venue, and that was before the outfit change
>>690135
>>690137
I agree there's too much speed in the game, not because I can't keep up, but the game itself can't, there's too much desync as a result. I just hope they find a way to nerf fps abuse too, warriors are the prime example, but most classes can take advantage of a higher fps. I don't want to turn my game into RuneScape to compete
>>690236
Pic
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>>690298
Cute character, the new shell belle outfit looks great on her. Is it possible to get just the hairstyle and mix&match with other pieces or do you only get that hairstyle with the full costume?
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>>689963
Do they rerun events or change them every time? Do the rewards from past events get put in the shops etc. or do they do the usual fomo bullshit?

>>690298
>wear shorts to the beach
I thought we were finally getting away from this.
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>>690298
I prefer the hotpants version...
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>>690308
Thanks, it's possible to mix and match the hairstyle, it goes into the helmet slot
>>690353
They rerun events sometimes, but usually there's a spin. Last year we also had Terrmian, but it was pretty much just a fishing event with some dailies worth doing, special shops like the ones we had this event, but this year's stock was better from what I recall. Halloween they usually do the Black and White witch event, the one with Isobelle spawning as a field boss, last year though, we had Marni playground or something with Squid Games activities, green and red light specifically, it was alright. I think this was their best though, the otter vs papu wars were amazing, and NFTs
>>690370
That's a good one too, I was thinking of getting, but I don't want to spend too much on BDO, not at once at least
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I have a dilema lads
I want to give my Lahn the outfit in pic related, but the sock on her right leg covers her tattoo, as seen in the pic to the right. The pic to the left is an alternate tattoo position on the other leg to let it still be exposed, but since there's no option to mirror the tattoo design, the skull is looking the opposite way.
Do you think it looks odd looking to the back, or not? In my opinion it's definitely not as nice as the right, but obviously better than having it covered by the sock.
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coming back to make a season character after about a year of not playing and the retarded new unskippable story tutorial is fucking obnoxious holy shit. I can normally get a new character to 56 in like 2 hours just sprinting from low level spot to low level spot but this is going to make every character take twice as long to level.

Please fucking tell me I'm only going to have to do this once or there's a file I can delete to make the cutscenes not play or something

I don't know why these stupid fucking chinks think anyone plays this retarded titty casino for the fucking story, stop fucking kidding yourselves
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>>690448
Left is the only choice BUT tattoos are sadly a bit low quality in game, I believe there are ways to mod them in for higher quality.
>>690463
You can skip it after the first time.
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how does the failstack event work...why is it so complicated...
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>>690843
>get origin of dark hunger from challenge tab (y)
>either use existing 100 stack or get the event 100 stack for 150 seal of challenge
>open the enhancing menu with your 100 stack
>go to extract and use the origin of dark hunger
>some days we only get essence of limit
>you need to combine it with essence of devouring (buy it from npc 300,000,000 each)

thats it
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holy fuck

why did no one tell me to play berserker earlier

this class is fucking amazing. I think my dick has twitched every single time I did the dunk grab
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fucking jews...JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING THING AND LET ME CHOOSE WHEN TO USE IT YOU PIECE OF SHIT GOOKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I haven't played the game in years, played whenever RU was still a thing before it got closed and merged with PA. im bored and need an sandbox mmo meme to enjoy myself with and realised i owned this on steam a while back. so how's the game nowdays? i just want to play a few hours per day and do life skills and exploration. i haven't got a clue on what class to play and so on.
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>>689968
You forget the fact that there's a hardcap limit for selling items cash shop items to the marketplace. It would still take a long time.
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>>691151
We did tho
>>691410
Player berserker, its more friendly now with the private daily grinding zones without getting pvp'd at popular spots.
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Hey why are vell's hearts up like 5 bill since I last played

is the ingame economy collapsing at the same rate as the real one?
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>>691539
inflation and printing silver at new grind spots
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>>691151
Berserker has been getting buffs since the very start of the game and it's just broken now.
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>>691410
I made a character and have been playing through the eternal winter campaign.
What the fuck were they thinking?
>our game is notorious for its great combat
>let's make an entire campaign that has little to no combat
At least I get to skip the desert I guess.
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I just went to do the Kavali dark rift at Elric Shrine, and half way through fighting him another dark rift opened in the same area and the Skeleton King came out!
That was a big surprise but it made the fight a bit more of a challenge and quite fun. Those sort of unexpected changes to fights really spice up the typical weeklies.
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Made about 250 billions from 62 to 63.
This game will probably die before I get to 64.
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>>691745
Congrats! Which spots did you spend the most time at, and of that gear there, what did the 250 mil get you?
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>>691745
grats bro, if you actually give a fuck about lvling then it's not too hard.
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>>691649
I started playing in 2016 and I still can't believe they introduce new players to the game with this bullshit.
>pvp
>sandbox
>amazing crafting system
>grinding
>gear progression
main story quest is a bunch of shit dialogue and just makes you run from point a to b???
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>>691846
I wish I was playing the main story. At least you get to tour newfag farming zones on your way to the end.
This other campaign is the most boring shit. I'm leveling pretty fast but it's making me not want to play so I won't make it to the end anyway.
Absolutely mindboggling.
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>>691860
Would you prefer the main quest line to be like ff14 or Wow? Go to new town, pick up all quests, kill x, turn them in, next zone, repeat.
Leveling via quests at 60 to 61 is like that in bdo now. Then at 61 you get dropped off into the endless grind.
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>>691539
Bogdanoff won
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>>691745
>that DP
Yeah, that's a Ranger main
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So uh, i reinstalled after like seven or more years. do everyone play on remastered preset? shit looks super blurry and fps is tanked at the forest starting location. i disabled DOF/TAA/adjust blur/FSR is off and so is low power mode, and still looks like shit. i didn't had any problems with the performance when I went to the cave thingy.
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>>692678
it says "only high-end pc". can't say I like the way it looks either, high textures and very high graphics are what I prefer.
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>>692678
I don't play on remastered, it can be good for screenshots but playing the game more fps is very important.
If you look at pvp streamers they play on the lowest settings possible to maximise fps, as that is linked to dps. Not that that's important for questing or even grinding unless you want to minmax silver/h
Having said all that it is worth playing around with the graphics and finding some settings you like the best and saving a preset, since there's a lot you can change.
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>>692679
Yeah it looks too shiny, but the very high present gives you that old look of the game. remastered doesn't look too bad but i just wished i could turn off the shiny-ness. from my understanding the remastered graphics is just glorified post processing to the extreme.
>>692680
I see. the graphic settings do lack a little, the auto optimization settings doesn't fully explain itself. but I'll check tomorrow for everything. i had zero issues on very high so i might stick to it in the end if I don't manage to tweak the remastered one.
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>>692678
in towns I drop to 50-70 on remastered but grinding out alone I get 120-144 fps on exclusive fullscreen

all the particle effects look prettier on remastered so I never turn it off. I understand the people who play at settings that make the game look worse than something released in 1997 but that would reduce my enjoyment of the game so much the silver increase wouldn't be worth it
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>>692678
Idk remastered looks like shit a lot of the times because of the lighting and blurriness. I couldn't fix either of them so I just went back to high
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>>692678
I play on remastered even during group content. I just enable FXAA instead of TAA and my game looks good to me. I can't stand my character looking like it came out of Roblox, so I'd rather take a loss in efficiency. I still run the game smoothly, even on a horse, and that's good for me
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>>692680
Lowest settings arent always the best for pvp. If you have a gpu that is more powerfull than your cpu, using higher settings (exluding remastered) can actually give you better performance.I think the reasoning is that higher settings will funnel most of the workload to your gpu. If you have a good setup you can ignore this and turn on minecraft mode (negative lod) for the most optimal performance.
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>>691761
I did star end for about 90% of the level and got enough gear for orcs for the last 10% of the level.
>>692678
I use low, very low, or lowest for grinding more seriously at harder zones.
I use remastered if I'm just casually playing.
Is your remastered game window resolution matching your monitor and did you disable upscale set to Not applied?
Its not supposed to be blurry in remastered mode after you disable all the settings that cause it.
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>>693200
What underwear is that in game?
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>>693236
>>689963
Same as this, but an alternate version exists inside the game files available in future maybe? Its modded in.
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I got four TET blackstars trying to fucking get to 170 stack. Fuck RNG
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>>693660
enhancing accessories to boost a stack was your first mistake
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>mythical feathers become readily available
>fruit of enhantment becomes the bottleneck instead
It's all so tiresome.
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>>693813
Yeah, they like to fuck you so hard.
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What you think of my Dark Knight?
It's really a worthless class so I will whore a around a bit.
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>>693942
looks nice, im not into tall bitches tho i keep my heights pretty low
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They really let Dark knights literally 3 shot people without any buffs in arena of solare huh? Disgusting how overpowered it is now
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>>693942
Beanstalk with a tiny head
Skin too shiny at default
Basic hairstyle
Grey-blue skin rarely works very well, it tends to look lifeless rather than a dark elf
Eyes look interesting though
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>>693942
The lighting in this game is pigshit so don't be surprised if it looks off once you actually log in.
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>>694059
grats on duo
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>>693942
I can't give you honest advice, I hate niggers
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>>694063
Thanks, it's back to TET now. I managed seven PEN attempts and used 1700 or so mems, which I think is a reasonable ratio.
Did you get the PEN Blackstar?
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>>694074
9k crons, nope.
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>>694076
Sure hope you aren't still clicking on 160 failstack.
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attempt 23 on my dream horse... when will peggy come home...
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>>694145
i've had 1 sitting at the stable for like 6 months that i hit on the 3rd try cuz im too lazy to sell it and too much of a hoarder to spend my tokens perfecting a horse that isn't t10 since you have to start over from scratch cuz this game sucks.
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>>693942
DK is one of the best classes in the game
It's really hard to pull off a traditional D&D Drow in this game. Maybe make her bluer if you want to keep it Drow.
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shai sex...
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>>694283
>DK is one of the best classes in the game

She's a glass cannon.
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>>694390
She is fairly tanky while doing the highest damage in the game.. All the short sword classes take more damage than her.
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>>694391
Her awakening sucks.
She's only good at sucession and she is often demanding to play.
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>>694401
Her awakening is fine and succession is straight up broken BECAUSE of how easy it is to play while being so strong. You fucking dk players are so trash at this game
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>>694401
Her awakening is a top siege/node war class and is solid top 5 at meta pve spots. The thing is she needs to do a lot of cancels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbqDVTpxek4
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>>694404
to be fair Awk DK needs a lot of FPS because she's one of the few classes that still needs to go into preawk to optimize trash and preawk is notorious for being FPS dependent.
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So sick of this game. And yet I can't leave it. I have literally nothing better to play.
Maybe i should try Vindictus? If it's still alive.
Aion is dead
Tera is dead
Every single friend I had on these games is lost.

It's so complicated.
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what are the best nodes to invest/work in?

I hate the desert ones, I have to leave an alt there just to put it up in the market
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>>694499
vindictus and tera prob have some decent private servers, there's a tera /vm/ thread. BDO is not a game that fosters community as much as i wish it did but it's making them money so they don't really care to change it. if you're scared of fomo just login for the daily login awards while you fuck around on other shit.
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why is autpath so fucking stupid since the patch? constantly starts off walking into walls instead of walking to the nearest part of the road
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>>694401
awk dk is good as fuck. it's just that succ is currently more broken. you are a fool to believe that awk is bad for that reason. the state of dk overall has always been depicted as volatile by dk mains but that couldn't be less true, dk has always been good in pvp. dk mains literally just fucking complain a lot
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>>694640
they "fixed" it so it's more optimal, lmao
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>thousands of pre orders up for an item
>price doesn't budge
Fucking gooks and their planned economy...
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>>694772
i'm sitting on a metric fuck ton of meals and cooking mats that i refuse to sell for the day they at least up the prices on some of these materials. fucking hell some things never sell and other people for sure have millions upon millions of these mats they will never use or sell in this state.
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>training buffs
>fixed T10 appearence
>finally raised market caps on a bunch of mats (milk, eggs, rough stone, fruits, flowers, meats)
>lifeskilling clothes provide non-trivial amount of DP

Now that's a good update.
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>>694951
Shai?
Check
Pegasus?
Check
Theme Song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ru0JmD5brM
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>>694772
The reverse is also true, the kama scrolls for example have tens of thousands on the market and nooone buys any since they're worthless.
I tried running five or so a while back and not only were the rewards bad, but the fight was also somehow both boring and frustrating
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>>691745
is your character in the beauty album or do you have beauty code?
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also, is bdo anbu site down for anyone else?
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Backed this game up years ago, and forgot about it. Is it Pay2Win? What brings it to my attention is the sieges between guilds and territorial control shit.

Additionally, I am not sure if my computer can even run the damn thing:
16 gigs of ram
intel core i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60ghz. (8 CPUs)
Geforce GTX 1060 3gb


Thanks!
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>>695223
PvP is a mess, don't bother.
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>>695223
>8gb ddr3 ram, i5 4 cores cpu, 10+ years old gpu
I get silky smooth 45-60 fps depending on settings. It's an old game and you can play it on even worse specs than mine.
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Where are peoples favourite places to take screenshots? I want to replace my character's profile pictures in the select menu with something nicer to look at
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>>695223
>the sieges between guilds
Gvgs happen and there is lots of shit talk and drama if that's what you love in pvp. It's pretty fun
>territorial control shit
NW and Siege have become memes and many guilds struggle to get consistent fights because of politics and poor leadership. You have to reaaaaaally like the combat in this game to deal with all of the utter bullshit it comes with, which many people do.
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>>695223
>>695458
Forgot to answer
>Is it Pay2Win?
I guess? Depends on your goals. I imagine if you started a new account and did the season you'd quickly end up with 4-5 free pets, a bunch of inventory slots and T1 ready right out of season. I don't know what rewards they give new players but I guess it would get you by for a while. I think the p2w doesn't really set in until you want to start grinding towards endgame since imho you need decent weight, a tent and some storage maids so you don't have to stop grinding every 15 minutes to stack items on your horse. Pay to not be annoyed by planned inconveniences I guess. Though I dunno what the new player experience is like, it used to be so much fucking worse so I could be wrong.
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>>695223
Massively p2w with a ton of bullshit slowing down progression unless you wait years to get it free from rewards. There are routes and activities that are less p2w and early game isn't much p2w, but endgame pve sorta demands a tent (cash shop item), t4/5 pets (cash shop or rewards), lootscroll (cash shop, sub, or rewards). F2P players' best options are ranked arena (equalized gear), t1 node wars (gear capped), mid tier grinding (low weight and minimal pvp), and hunting (high silver/h with areas that have easy access to non-tent shops/repair). There is also a bunch of shit I have no idea about like bartering.
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>>695540
>bartering
It's trash.
You spend an entire day, not even joking shit takes forever, semi-afk and you get around 500 mil. This is with a vp, without it it's about 350 mil.
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>>695593
>VP making that much a difference
Guess I'm not probably never getting into Bartering. Too bad that I kind of wanted to get a Carrack down the lione.
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There's no interest for PA to make people get tons of silver UNLESS...you a whale at spending pearls.
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>>695205
No, its not.
>>695319
At home. Rhutums. Horses.
>>695223
There are tiers of pay2win. Tiers of whaling.
Casual pay2win tier is like $100-300. Convenience items.
The next tier of pay2win is like $10,000-$100,000? where you nearly buy your BiS gears.
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>got my pen acc
>got half my cups
>got a peggy
>got my 2 distos and 2 garmoth hearts
>got c9 armor/weps
>got my arty sets
>got my mp and hp pot
I think I'm approaching my quarterly burnout of the year once I finish my labreska. Not really sure what else to grind for since grinding for pure silver doesn't really feel that good and the compass/map just seems like fool's errands.
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Heilangcucks get a lazy "buff" made by an intern during his break.
Horsestacies get PA to invest thousands of man hours to create a new high resolution texture with unique high quality animated effects that makes Studio Ghibli look like a Canadian flash animation company, a myriad of new ways to make silver that will be meta, a replacement of all t1-5 in open world with t6 and t7, and a patch that will coincide with Heidel Ball so everyone takes notice.
Dog fuckers BTFO. Horse Gang.
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A ranger in le vladian underwear is the sexiest underwear in the game.
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>>695843
Its ok.
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>>695878
It's pure sex
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>play a good class as a season character
>lose all motivation to play my shitty main class
Pure suffering.
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I wish that the regions were more densely packed with content and underground stuff. I spend a lot of time thinking about how the areas I'm passing by would make for good grind spots and would make the world feel more lively. The more regions release the lonelier I feel being in them since many spots quickly become wastelands while at the same time more people move away from the main cities. I miss when heidel was a bustling lagfest. Never thought I would get sentimental over seeing the number of both afk and active players dwindle and spread out so much since a large part of my early experience was seeing people literally everywhere afk or doing their own thing and thinking it was so cool.
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>>696372
>womb tattoo
hot as fuck and how do you get that?
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>>695878
hag
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murrowak is fun but it sucks so fucking bad. it should not be this way
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>>696414
It's one of the basic tattoos, just change the placement
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Do I really need 360 DP to grind at Turos for the Flame, and if so am I supposed to get there by just getting all my armours to C9 or so?
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>>696882
Not really, but how much you need depends upon your buffs, class and your farming partner, but I'd probably rather farm the other flame as you can just buy Flame of Despair on the marketplace.
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is it me or is the free drakania outfits you get from main quests kinda bad? looks like regular armor

I remember the Lahn outfits all being good at least
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>>697393
I like the default heve one.
The main quest literally gives you regular green armors.
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Old returning player here. Lost my account during the transfer and am starting fresh.

I made a mistake and downloaded and created a BDO account via Steam thinking that it was all gonna be the same. I only put a few hours on it so I'd like to just delete and start over again with Pearl Abyss launcher.

I just permanently removed the game on steam and will uninstall when I get home. Am I gonna have issues making a new account and re-installing the game with the regular launcher? Are there other steps I have to make with steam to delete my email or shit like that or will I be good to start fresh?
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>>697921
>I made a mistake and downloaded and created a BDO account via Steam
What's the difference nowadays?
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>>697921
I don't think there is much difference but you can install the regular bdo just fine.
It used to be that steam didn't get an option to buy the package deals for $29.99, $79.99 or whatever, which gave bonus horse and pets, value pack, and stuff. But with how much handouts they give out now its insignificant and don't even need to buy those packages.
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>>697922
There was the OP gathering pet that you could not get from steam, hegdehog pet?
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>>697927
>There was
Exactly, was.
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>>697922
I was under the impression that the regular launcher was faster and had less issues. Not to mention that whenever steam is down for maintenance or otherwise, so will my bdo. Also I won't be able to run it on another computer while playing other steam games. Also heard about pearl shop issues and stuff. Idk, it just seems like an unneccesary layer of issues when I can just use the original launcher as intended.
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>>697927
That's strangely a deal breaker for me. My irl hedgehog just passed away recently and I want to get one in game and name it after him.
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>>697930
>regular launcher was faster and had less issues
Steam still uses the regular launcher anyway, it's just providing login details as far as I can tell.
>steam is down for maintenance or otherwise, so will my bdo
Don't remember encountering steam being down like that in years, but whatever.
>won't be able to run it on another computer while playing other steam games
I constantly have multiple steam games, including BDO, without any issues (at least from steam, EAC is a whole another story)
>heard about pearl shop issues
If anything steam is much better for payments. Recall some time ago people having problems with payments and being denied with shitty costumer support from 3rd parties, which wouldn't happen with steam.
>and stuff
What stuff?
>seems like an unneccesary layer of issues when I can just use the original launcher as intended
It's a layer, but if you're gonna run steam anyway there's little to no difference as far as I remember, but you do you.
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>>698204
>the erp scene
Do incels really?
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>>698230
Last night I James Bond burger your sister?
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Get free shit again

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>>698258
grabbing them RIGHT NOW. thanks
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>>698258
Probably worth mentioning that these expire in a few hours
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Is bdog ready for j hammers?
You did take advantage of the event right?
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>>698348
>j hammers
cant wait to fail all my attempts at a pen dande, just like i failed my 30 attempts at my peggy
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>>698373
>wasting hammers on boss gear
Do BDOsissies, really?
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Make the ultimate feeder AoS team.
>Succ Corsair, Shai, Shai
Amazed that Shai can even win
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>>698373
They were never meant to work.
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>>698516
Got double PEN BS from J Hammers.
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can't decide which class to use the bikini set box or coco set box on.

I have Drakania, Lahn, and later I plan to start Dark Knight and Sorc
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>>698703
DK and sorc have a shit-ton of outfits so you can't go wrong with either if you decide your main based on looks. all of lahn's outfits look the same to me unless you're modding some in.
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>>698703
I'd say Lahn just because it's a bit more rare to see.
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>>698838
Go away and play whatever you want, whatever is "alive"
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>>698281
Grinding is for people who have given up on sex. Surprisingly a lot of players are married even if most likely sexless
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>>698838
NO! I will not accept it!

Throne and Liberty hasn't come out yet. There's still hope.
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>>698527
BDO shill
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>>699043
Just lucky. I do this little gay ritual of failling a ton of shitty items above 30% in a row (like 10+) until I get one success and then I immediately switch over to BS. In my head the PRNG has a higher chance of success at that moment.
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>>698348
isn't like 7,2bil to make it from a 100 fs?
is it even worth it?
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>>699456
At around 200+ FS, each fail stack costs about 1 bil since you're building it with TET to PEN boss gears attempts and downgrading back to TRI.
Unless if it succeeds, then you get a PEN to sell for 14 bil.
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>>699456
Just start higher and make multiple stacks of 200+ fs. Otherwise it's a waste, unless you really need that one stack.
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what class do I pick all of them look like fun
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>>699622
Can't go wrong with either of Bersercar, Lahn mower, or Stroker, but all classes are somewhat playable. Which ones are the most optimal depends.
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>>699622
Depends on what you want to do. Almost all classes are good at something besides maybe Corsair.

Also:
>People dooming about Shai nerfs
>just saw a Shai melt mobs at Gyfin Underground
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>>699657
Shai kinda hot in pve and pvp.
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The classic BDO experience.
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>>699739
Classic BDo experience is.

You have money?! Here's PEN
No money?! Fuck you, you grind nao!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ZixYa9CFU

I got mad cause I got pk by a korean so, fuck her!
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>>699742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUtyytabV8k
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>>699745
Thats a pretty long commercial since you have to watch both parts of it with the only punch line bring that she didn't know about how lame BDO is.
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jesse
jesse we need to grind
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Not into world-pvp, just enjoy bossing, how forced is the unga bunga?
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>>700150
More forced pvp in profitable grind spots but you can switch channel to avoid people.
World bosses are meh, zerg fest and not much strategy or profit.
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>>700152
I love it when a character gets wet in this game. It looks so fucking good and makes me wish I could always have the graphics maxed out..
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>CM asks reddit about balance feedback
>Have to dig through dumb blogspots, a gay meme about how men should wear skimpy clothes, and Breaking Bad shit to finally find it

I agree with the most popular post about SA Blocks, KD grabs, and RNG CCs being cancer.
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>>700215
They know what the balance problems are. They are just ignoring it intentionally.
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>>700222
I think they do it because fixing it would make players deal with all of the desync due to shit netcode.
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I have never won an AOS game with a Shai or Corsair on my team
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>>700272
What's better a guardian or a sorc in AOS?
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>>700389
sorc is not that much of a threat or priority in any comp imo. gets ignored in favor of faster, stronger classes until she is last to go and she can't do that much to cover way faster classes like musa, zerk or ninja. succ guard can be kited if you don't know what you are doing but she's big dmg and tanky, good zoner. can be scary if played well.
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>>700462
top tier bikini
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Sooo, anyone going to the ball in heidel?
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>>700519
Hope to get hammered there.
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>>700158
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>>700887
based rain enjoyer
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this is literally so close to being the perfect fucking game in both combat and topographic design but it's all the little things that take away from it
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Is Valk easy to play?
I know you can "train" easy mobs my clicking 2 buttons, but what about mobs I can't oneshot, is it still simple enough?

I think I'm too dumb to play this game, the only class I like playing in pve is lahn succ because I just rotate 3 skills.
When I go look at other classes for farming, they have strings and strings of skills to use for combos and it's just way too overwhelming...
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Why not play Mabinogi if you want a sandbox?
it has more options for dress up, better life skills, more of them, isn't as run in circle-y

genuine question, because I really do believe mabinogi is the better sandbox game. But bdo has higher player numbers. Is it really just better graphics and polish?
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>>701647
Valk is not hard to play. Just take things slow and play the class you enjoy the most.
>>701849
Mabinogi has more dress up options because the game looks like complete ass and it takes 0 effort to make. Disagree on the life skills part. You might just be too biased.
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>>701946
just because you don't like all the options doesn't mean they aren't there.
And I'm not biased, I've probably spent more time gathering, farming, trading, actively doing alchemy/cooking/processing than you've played of BDO overall
Mabinogi just does it better
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>>701849
the only thing I can think that game could be better than BDO is that you probably can run it on a potato pc
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>>701973
You can run BDO on a potato too, its a very scalable game, honestly it loses a lot of its appeal for me at those settings but a lot of people in 2nd and 3rd world countries play at them.
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>>702012
well, you can run it and also can kill orcs at 20 fps loosing 50% of your dps
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Im tired of lost ark. Can I just hide on seasonal servers forever and PvP and que up for equalized arena and have fun? Or is the pvp not good enough to carry the game alone?
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>>702926
No fun allowed.
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>>702926
Yeah if that's what you really want to do you can do it. Better pray you're not playing a trash class if you want to have fun in PVP.
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>>702939
ill probably start a new class whats good? And when is the next season?
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>>703069
striker, guardian, berserker
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>>703115
is there any CUTE classes that are good those are m*les or buff woman?
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>>703123
Lahn, Dark Knight, Valk, Shai but only at endgame
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>grinding with Shai
Ngggg...
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>>703115
Literally everything but Sucession Maewha is good. Some classes are not very good in 1v1 and some are not very good in large fights but for everything else they are fine.
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>>700471
>>703115
>>703306
3-day freefag coming in - what's a PvE class you would recommend for the best first impression of this game?
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>>703325
Lahn, Striker, Berserker, Dark Knight or Guardian. Easy and strong classes.
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omfg its a miracle!
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>>703663
Nice. People were talking about someone selling a bunch of rare shit like they were rage quitting the game
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no sex...
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>>703805
I miss the days of different people posting their lewd characters..
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>>703663
what the fuck? EU, NA or SA?
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>>704010
Those are pretty easy to get in EU. Got my order filled in like a week, Belts are much worse to get.
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>season characters cant enter arena of solare
for what fucking reason
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>>703325
whichever one you think looks the coolest. at this point every class is decent at pve. pretty much all but a few are really good at certain spots and not great at others.
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>>702926
>Or is the pvp not good enough to carry the game alone?
You have to be a certain type of person. There are people who don't even touch PvE anymore because they love the pvp and don't want to quit. You can be a BA rat and AoS chud and get by fine since you can take trial to BA and AoS gives you gear for that mode. If you want to do T1 node wars you just need full pen tuvala
>>703069
If you're concerned with purely seasonal owpvp, BA 1v1s and AoS 3v3s then some good choices are
>awakening musa
>awakening striker
>awakening warrior
>awakening valk
>awakening hashashin
>succession dark knight
>succession mystic
>succession ninja
>both berserker specs
some might argue that succ wizard is only good in large scale but imo a good succ wizard is scary in 1v1 and 3v3. good class if you love kiting and ranged ccs
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>>704238
Succ wizard is very clearly top tier in 3v3 if you just look at AoS stats.
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I finally got to 61 on a seasonal character (my main). I want to use Fughar's Timepiece to get a 61 alt. However, I want to keep the PEN Tuvala weapons on my main, is that possible? I want to convert it to Boss gear later.

Not sure how to sequence this exactly. Timepiece then grad/early grad?
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>>704315
when you timepiece, the weapons stay what they were and you get 3 weapon exchange coupons for them.
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>>704315
yes, yes
just don't use the tuvala exangin cupons
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>>704315
Timepiece -> Early Graduate with the new alt -> Use stones on Tuvala gear to make it useable on a non-season character

Not much more to it.
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>>704238
I play awakened Musa and it's fantastic, but I would advise trying out other classes first because after playing it nothing else feels as fluid to play. Awakened DK comes close I guess
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I heard you can make a self 200% bsr set now. viable or meme? a lot of the 200% skills seem shitty (albeit cool) but the 200% z buffs seem useful
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>>705301
30 min cooldown on the 200% skills, not sure about the buffs
Probably worth it for fun and to try it out for every class
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What does it mean
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>>705753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YtYMzh8lxk
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horse training > bartering now in terms of afk doshmaking capabilities?
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>awakened T10 from the free censor
Not bad, just in time for the appearance change. I guess I can try to go for the T10 Diné down the line.
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>>687338
>I got this game when it was free for a limited time on Steam but I never played it.
same. i got in and it was atrocoius, i left right away

>opening cutscene where im fighing some important something and apparently im the chosen one even though the game hasnt even started
i dont like being chosen one in MMOs cause its silly that everyone is the chosen one

>finally get ingame and there's like hundred of actual menus at every side of the screen and suggestions to buy something
felt like game itself was just a background animation for the mountain on menus and icons. at lvl 1.


i much prefer the WoW game entrance.
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What ap do you need to 1shot centaurs with that valk spamming strat?
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>>706992
320 sheet ap
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Hello. I bought this game a year ago but then I only played an hour. Is it fun to try again and enough people play to make it worthwhile?

P.S. I hope my character from a year ago is cute enough.
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>>707017
It's pretty much a single player experience for the most part. If anything other players are likely to grief you if anything.
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How is this game vs lost ark? I'm looking for a new MMO that isn't wow or ffxiv.
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>>707455
BDO = running around in circles or having the game in the background
Lost Ark = endless dailies/weeklies
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>>707455
eve, ffxi?
this game is unique think dynasty warriors with mmo grind gearing up mechanics
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>>707455
I prefer it just because I know that there are real people playing the game and not just endless amount of bots.
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where is the sex...
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>>707649
I also want to know...

so, where is the sex?
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Old returning player here, starting from scratch.

I noticed that literally all of the base boss gear pieces are consistently available on the marketplace for only a few hundred mil.
This is insane for me, cause back in the day you had to snipe every piece of gear and pray to RNGesus for luck if you tried to buy it straight up. Most people never even got a full set.

Now there's this Tuvala shit, and I don't know if it's even worth upgrading by season's end if I can realistically only get everything to TET.
Should I just ignore it and just buy all the boss gear once seasons over and start from there or is it worth it to try leveling the Tuvala?
I'm definitely not wasting any Advice of Valks on them (I think).

This game's changed so much and I don't have a clue wtf I'm doing anymore...

For reference, my current gear is full Tuvala, everything is at TRI except TET mainhand and PEN awakening.
My accessories are dogshit but I'm not worrying about those now since I'm getting the free shit at season's end.
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>>707853
Try to upgrade Tuvala gear as much as possible. The big advantages of it is that the upgrade mats are easy to get while season servers are up and that the overall odds of an upgrade are better than it would be for a boss piece.
PEN Tuvala is equivalent to TET boss gear, and you get a family quest to convert a single piece of PEN Tuvala into a boss piece. Usually people will choose Red Nose Armor since that can be further exchanged for a better armor that you can sell on the market.
Advice of Valks is handed out like candy nowadays, don't be afraid to use the +40 and +50 on Tuvala.
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>>707861
Thanks for the advice.
I already have a PEN tuvala awakening so I'll be trading that for a TET dandy after season ends.
The rest I guess I'll just upgrade as much as possible by the end of this week.

I can't upgrade it anymore after season's over, right? I'll just have to use them as backups and keep them while I buy and upgrade boss gear to replace them?
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>>707869
Next season just go hard on tuvala stuff. I usually could pen it and the accs in a week or two of going the regional quests and the weekly for mats, as well as rifts. I blow a lot of low level valks on it, using only the +60 for each final pen attempt. Never cron it btw. After that you are gonna want to work on converting them to pen boss via the jetina stuff, and work on your pen crescent ring.
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Heidel ball HYPE
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>>708264
a literal carry the box dungeon
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>Fast travel added
so they ruined one of the best part of the games?
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>Shai gets a doll backpack
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>>708288
I sleep
>>708331
I AWAKEN!
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I like the idea of skill points being added to weight once you overfill, but they might not even do that.
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Post hammers?
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If I use a hammer to try to PEN an accessory, it still has the chance to downgrade as if I used Crons, right?
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>>708431
I don't think it says hammers are usable on accessories.
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>>708436
Ah yeah you're right. In that case either I use it for PEN Nouver or save it for Fallen God, though I'm still like 6k caphras away from that
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I usually never play season long enough to get full pen tuvala, feels gud man
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>>708538
Congrats bro! Who are you thinking of for your timepiece?
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So much free shit, literally one month of me grinding 2h a day in just cron stones.
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Hey, EU Stella using ranger that fishes in Duvencrune on Valencia 5, I'm taking up-skirt screenshots and you can't do anything about it.
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>>708629
not sure, running out of classes that look interesting to me. Berserker was more fun than I thought it would be. Might try valkryie next because of shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ow3Cb5XZ7g. Might want it for brain off potion grinding maybe
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>>708809
you better post them
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>used free crons gambling on pen ACC
>Donwgraded both attempts
>fuck it go all in raw attempts
>lost 30b (all my silver)

Im free brothers, another korean game that basically plays out like an abusive relationship. See you in T&L for round 3.
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the korean robotic 10,000 hour grindset completely and utterly ruins this game. I'm not kidding when I say I would quite literally rather grind out extra shifts in real life and pay to progress than grind the same packs of mobs with the same combos 12 hours a day for the same thing. the combat system in this game is done a great disservice by how mindlessly they expect you to grind in pve. BDO needs engaging content that's actually rewarding and it might be able to compete with new MMOs, but every year they slack the opportunity slips from their fingers. this heidel ball only showed me they are panicking, probably because revenue is declining with the playerbase in the waves of new MMOs releasing, and they're trying to throw everything at the wall to see what sticks. they wouldn't have had to do this if they just respected their players in the first place. the biggest threat in the near future is probably Throne and Liberty, which is positioned to steal the graphics segment of the market with an updated engine and superior movement. will BDO survive the next few years?
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How is this game for just spamming arena? I have zero desire to grind in another Korean MMO. Does the PvP still suffer from desync and other jank?
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>>708918
They just need to make AOS 600 mil and hour and I'll be happy. I get bored extremely fast of grinding an area after an hour or two and I cycle lifeskills regularly.
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>>708920
It's OK, nothing amazing probably just about as fun as spamming random 3v3 in WoW is.

>>708925
Equalized gear arena side steps a ton of the p2w/pay for convenience elements baked into the game design. They cant let AOS let you make even 200m an hour or it would be preferable grind for a majority of players, especially new players and gearlets that can barely push that with full buffs all 3 sub fees etc..
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>>708925
>non monetized portion of the game should allow m to make 600m an hour

OY VEY you realize how retarded this sounds right? People are throwing a fit that newfags are getting """"free"""" PEN boss gear and you want to give them an avenue to buy a piece of PEN every 12 hours of game time?

>>708920
Its dogshit desync fest that you also need to run the game in lowest settings to get 200+ FPS so you can do more damage.
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>>708926
Fucking season centaurs gets 600 million with f2p shit only.
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>>708932
>runs out of agris
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>>708933
Not even the sweatiest ninjas grind daily. You have to be full schizo mode to grind this shit daily.
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>>708932
>>708933
>runs out of marnis realm

Yes you get 600m an hour for 1 hour a day on season servers after that you are fighting 10 billion pinoy silver sellers etc. for the spot
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>>708920
The game is fun for new players desu, just only play season and never touch the shitty base game that you'll never in a million years catch up in.
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Is succession DK and Nova the only good female successions for 3v3v?
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>>708925
It's not just about the money or the gear it's about engaging content. This game could be way more beloved if they just had good modes to support it that you could make a little bit of money and unique rewards from. I don't think anything needs to change with the gear grind desu, but there isn't that much to do besides that which puts a lot of people off. Regardless of what anybody thinks the pvp scene has shrunk drastically over the years, can't really put my finger on exactly why but it's a combination of frustrating things players have to deal with. A lot of it has been eased over time but I still hate to see this game dry up so much when it doesn't have to be. AoS is a step in the right direction but I feel they've been promising this mode for so long that now it's just too late.
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Not sure how to actually feel about these rolls, that Brake is a pure eyesore, but I don't think there's almost any chance I'd want to reset ever again.
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>>709284
>Raku
Great name my dude
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>>709369
It rhymes with Recoome and you'll be hurting all too soon.
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So the last time I played BDO, it was before the class reworks and the new region dropped; had TRI Blackstar main and awakening weapons about that refused to upgrade to TET. After trying to read up some official notes about past updates, there's allegedly now an alternate path that breaks down the PEN upgrade into incremental steps; is that worth pursuing, or should I just go with the guaranteed TET > PEN boss equivalents and work on their Caphras levels a bit, and then sell off the Blackstar weapons if I can get them up to TET?

Haven't read up anything about Elvia Calpheon but I'd imagine that'll be a while off yet.
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>>709598
Just stick to blackstar, get it to TET or use it to build up PEN Blackstar failstack, which should be like 240+. (up to like 190-200 with TET:BS attempts, rest with PEN Boss attempts) Alternate enhancing path is a trap and complete garbage. Maybe you can buy a DUO/TRI of the alternate to use until you can get a PEN: Blackstar from enhancing it yourself and then sell it, but that's about it.
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>>709694
>look into the rates
>PEN God-Ayed has a significantly lower success rate than PEN Blackstar itself
>only advantage otherwise is a lower upfront Cron Stone cost per attempt

I see what you mean, they probably didn't want to make it too easy but shaking out that last drop looks nasty. Guessing I should also work on a Blackstar offhand to migrate to as well at some point?
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>>708843
No, she will be mine.
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>>709860
I think it's pretty readeable what the intention behind the alternate upgrade path is, though the math behind is just way off. For offhand you can just stick to PEN: Kutum as it's currently just very affordable and a downgrade only once you can get to PEN: Blackstar, which is way down the line as you're more likely to want to upgrade your Main/Awakening weapons and accessories before ever touching PEN: Blackstar offhand, especially if you put some Caphras into the Kutum.
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you faggots lied about being able to skip the unskippable cutscene tutorials at the beginning after the first time

literally who asked for this shit
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>>708918
It wasn't bad for me, the problem is they keep adding more gear so the grind is truly infinite, thus there's just no point as your extremely hard effort is seldom rewarded as by the time you're about done new shit comes out making your 8 hours a day grind for 3 months pointless and you should have done literally anything else you fucking loser retard
t. was a god back in the day but then they replaced gear so I grinded again and almost become a god again but then they added more stuff and now I haven't played in like a year. If you're not rich IRL then don't bother with gear, that's the truest piece of advice that's not for or against the game for BDO. You have to spend a lot of $, otherwise you're wasting your damn life for literally nothing at all.
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>>710259
>t. was a god back in the day but then they replaced gear so I grinded again and almost become a god again but then they added more stuff and now I haven't played in like a year.
The only thing they have added for years is the debreska(?) neck and belt, and only the biggest of biggest whales/grinders have that at PEN. You're full of shit as if you were a god back in the days you would still be it today, unless you meant 6 fucking years ago pre-awakening.
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>>710259
What do you mean exactly? The gear is coming in pretty slowly and the old one is still relevant. You can nowadays have majority of silver/h efficiency of like a top couple % of players with just effiortless Tuvala gear. If you mean that you get invalidated by the catchup mechanics, then so be it, maybe you have a point there.
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>>709937
Yeah fair. Currently I've got about 5k Caphras on me that was more or less intended to passively work towards C10 for Fallen God shit since I'd rather not neglect defenses too much in the chase for AP, unless there's a better use case for them. With the free shit from the ball, the gauntlets did at least hit TET so I suppose PEN Kutum could be considered next to push that Succession AP into the 278 bracket.

Also trying to learn more about these artifacts, to say the least that's a lot of potential Combat/Skill EXP bonuses but I'd imagine for silver grindan it's just stacking more attack/defense against monsters.
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>attempt 25 gave me a Doom
fuck why did my first dream horse have to be this useless pos
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Randomly decided to pick this game up again to give it another shot, only to find out the current season is ending in just another short while.

Should I hang it up and give it another go when the next season rolls around, or is it possible to blast out the seasonal stuff before the 5th?
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>>710515
If you know what you're doing and have 20 hours to play in the next 2 weeks you can max it, but it's probably best to just start an alt to get all the Hiedel Ball goodies and wait until next season
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>>710047
No we didn't. You are just retarded and chose to not skip past the tutorial.



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