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Haven't seen anything posted about this shit game since /bdog/ died a few weeks back. Probably a good thing too.
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And here's the OP information dug out from the archives:
Probably shouldn't include the discord links but who cares at this point?

>What is BDO
Black Desert Online is a Korean MMORPG developed by Pearl Abyss. It features non-tab targeted action combat, RNG and guaranteed upgrade mechanics, zerg pvp, infinite grinding and a pseudo sandbox experience.

>Latest NA/EU Patch Notes
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice

>Latest KR News
https://www.invenglobal.com/blackdesertonline

>NA/EU Coupon codes
https://incendar.com/bdo_pearl_abyss_coupon_codes.php

>Interactive world map:
https://www.somethinglovely.net/bdo/

>General utility (Boss timer, Imperial, Market Que, Pearl Market, Scroll Profit, Caphras Calc, etc.)
https://veliainn.com
https://bdolytics.com

>Track your grinding session
https://garmoth.com/?msg=noaccess

>Grindspots silver/hr (EU prices)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6vcfKavoo85TcY6Xul6GzR8LNiO5IuXH8F5fZwUrSw/edit#gid=207164060

>/BDOG/ Discord -
https://discord.gg/tFeA8qcXyN

>Black Desert Lewd Mod Discord -
https://discord.gg/4FVrVxM

>Useful Links, Guides, Guilds & Info
UPDATED pastebin again:https://pastebin.com/HTKEmSGP
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Also Drakania got a teaser for her Awakening weapon and appearance.
>release in mid-July
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3232
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whyfu
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>>629456
does that fag still play this game?
i remember that he kept the general bumped with pics of his tamer back in the day and did the usual namefag and avatarfag stuff
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such a dogshit game with so much unrealized potential. truly the last mmo that had good action combat and geography
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>>629980
>such a dogshit game with so much unrealized potential
That's basically the story of every Korean video game in the last decade.
Great mechanical foundations and visually outstanding, but ruined by atrocious and predatory management.
Every single time.
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>>629161
/bdog/ was a cesspool, and it always has been, no one plays the game, they just rp. Game is as it always is, unbalanced with devs that lack vision and don't really care for feedback that isn't Korean. Good theme park for a newfag though, hundreds of hours of exploring and discovery before they realize how unpolished the game is and drop it. I still like it though, I made friends through pvp, usually the whiny players are those that don't even try it or cry when they get involved in a guild war
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dead game going full carebear to try and get casuals to play it. fuck this shit im out
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>>629161
hewo I started playing 2 days ago (*^ -^*)
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>>630156
i play the game
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>>630211
it's so fucking dead i hate it so much. it's just a bunch of bot-like addicts running around the same 3 grind spots saying twitch memes every now and then while the towns, roads and pretty much everywhere else is a graveyard except for erpers. only part i enjoyed in the end were gvgs. doesn't feel like an mmo anymore cause it's so full of pvebabbies who want to isolate themselves in little bubbles and watch netflix.
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>>630575
It really makes me sad. The only other open world pvp game we have right now (excluding old games running on private servers) is Albion. The open world pvp mmo genre is fucking dead. Lets hope the new lineage fixes that. copium.
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>>630581
u okay friend? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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What class has the best lewd costumes?
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>>630578
indeed. i miss when the pve was secondary and the focus was on pvp and socializing, now it's just a shitty grinding simulator where pvp is seen as griefing because you need to grind so much shit
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>>630616
Sorceress
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It's probably the best MMO on the market but ruined by incompetent devs that lost their original way. Game should have leaned into the pvp interactions between guilds and not into the p2w grind circle run game it has become.
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>>630844
>Game should have leaned into the pvp interactions between guilds
Hh man I miss this. People would literally just go out and start a guild war for the hell of it and everybody had fun. Back when engagements lasted more than like 5 seconds and it took a whole group to blow one person up instead of one person blowing up a whole group. Fuck man, early bdo pvp was lightning in a bottle and we can't get it back.
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I can't get into the combat no matter how hard I try. It's probably from getting old
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>>630719
i absolutely despise how they give 90% of all outfits that cockblocking cape/mini-skirt shit.
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>>631136
It'll get that way when the vast majority of combat is just ability rotations and using dashes to go to the next pack of mobs.
BDO combat is at its best in PvP and when you're either discovering the class moveset or just dicking around when you're farming.
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>>630844
>ruined by incompetent devs that lost their original way.
They tried the original way for almost 5 years and it never really worked out?
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>>631136
Feels unintuitive for a while but you get used to it and then it feels natural. knowing a class like the back of your hand feels so good compared to other mmos
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Here's a new premium Nova costume.
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>>631885
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Maintenance on June 9th
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3233
>Arena of Solare added, 3v3, has matchmaking and equalized gear
>Lina's toobag for lifeskill convenience
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Why did the general die?
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>>631913
There wasn't much to talk about that hasn't already been discussed a thousand times already, and the discords probably took away a good portion of shitposting that would've kept the general on life support.
Funny thing is that right after /bdog/ died a bunch of mob zones got updated.
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>>631921
Most generals have very little discussion, it's 90% horny posting this is why the top generals are always some gacha chinese/korean garbage or a japanese game with lolis/big titty monsters. I would have expected BDO to follow the same pattern
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>>631926
People don't post enough lewd BDO stuff sadly. Even the RP is kind of dead in the game.
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>>631926
i don't even browse v/vg anymore cuz of all the schizo-porn-edits. vm is great but kinda dead unfortunately.
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Just make grind zones instances you fucking gooks...also no sex.
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>>632106
go play ff you fucking pve troon
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>>631913
It's full of pedophiles and zoophiles.
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>>632153
>It's full of
Can't be that full, otherwise it wouldn't have died.
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>>632188
they have many avenues
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>>632151
pvp in bdo is a joke
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itc pride worldwide
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>devs make fun pvp mmo with a beautiful lively world and unique action combat
>needs some tweaks here and there with ranger but overall it is easy to enjoy and everyone is having fun
>instead of tweaking ranger they keep making retarded balance decisions
>release one op class after another and go on the deep end of retardation never listening to players
>turn game into one-combo meta and ramp up speed of every class up to 100x making it desync hell when nobody fucking asked
>create absurd nigh uncloseable levels of gear gaps with pri-pen system turning people off from pvp because muh loot scroll, muh pve buffs
>turn fun pvp mmo with light grind into heavy grind antisocial pve game
>the realization of shitty systems like weight, inventory slots and t4 pets start crashing down on people the more important pve becomes
>introduce p2w autoheal solving their shitty potion system
>devs continue to sell solutions to people who want to play a shitty single player game in a multiplayer environment
>never fix desync issues or do anything that involves player interaction
>don't even bother caring because pve addicts make them more money
first few months was peak bdo, it can't be replicated. everything after is just a shell created to vacuum up money from autistic people who enjoy running circles
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>>631439
the original way was scrapped really early on in NA's life.
BDO was at its peak during the old way.
everything after the removal of 1% and passed +15 was a mistake
everything
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>>632221
are you talking about TERA.
It's silly but one of my guildies left for BDO after last, horrible patch where devs finally totally killed pvp.

Didn't BDO also had publisher switch where 90% of accounts were simply deleted, even those who wanted to play the game but missed notification.
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>>632203
>I'm the cuck
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>>632392

yeah, my account got trashed in the move, even though I did the process explained in their shit emails. the pathetic part is i have more and better stuff in week one now, than i ever did in 2 years on my old account.
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>>630926
>start a guild war for the hell of it and everybody had fun
lolno, but do keep pretending that, it is funny
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people need to come to terms with the fact that only mentally disturbed people enjoy forced open-world PvP in RPGs anymore. any game with forced open-world PvP in it is dead or dying. i loved that shit when i was 13 years old on classic WoW but i'd rather have people to actually play a game with than there be open-world PvP. anyways patchnotes:

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3245&countryType=en-US
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>>631921
The discord is barely alive bro.
Also
>BDO
>PVP game
The devs know shit about balance and netcode. I can't wait till the people finally realize that with ranked solare pvp.
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>dead game
Why are you not playing LA?
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>>632563
It's just another flavor of the same shit, and I simply prefer this flavor.
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Solare is fun but they have to fix the number of arenas... need like 3-5x at least. There's 30 people here in Altinova waiting in queue on my channel alone
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Go fish.
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>>631887
Its actually a cool outfit.
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>Arena of Solare is bugged
They can't get anything right.
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>>632869
Is the guy on the right ok?
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>>633070
Mommy can blow on it to make it better.
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>>632846
I like fishing. But there needs to be something more in fishing, it's missing something. Maybe more fishing rods? Or some different mini game? I'm not too sure. It's almost perfect.
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>>630844
>pvp interactions between guilds
>could've been an actual Guild-Wars equivalent
>mfw
fucking koreans
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https://www.blackdesertfoundry.com/global-lab-updates-10th-june-2022/
>tier 5 pets that buffs the pickup speed of all other active pets by 15%
>can only have a single tier 5 pet active at a time
Thankfully you only need a single tier 4 pet that's level 10 or higher to make a tier 5
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>>632451
you didn't play launch bdo
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>>634254
15% isnt gonna be enough. Not nearly enough. These retarded devs should have just given the T5 aoe loot ability. But given how spaghetti the code is I assume that they are incapable of programming it in.
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>>634697
Or, the devs could just get rid of pet loot and make looting a value pack feature, instant everything looting!
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>>631921
Most generally don't have anything to talk about and just dump porn, so what's the difference?
>>632153
Again, just like any other general
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Here's your pvp meta, bro.
>everything revoles around getting the 300 AP buff first
fantastic game design
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>>635746
In the top 100 in sk there is only a single berserker. Combined with the fact that Koreans dont play him because hes too uggo for their kpop aesthetics it explains why PA keeps him so retardedly op.
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>>635753
Is berserker actually op? Not meeting, I've just never played him and want to have the ultimate 1v1 champ
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>>636249
Yes. hes op
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Maintenance tonight.
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3280&countryType=en-US
>Godr-Ayed weapons will be added.
>Calpheon Elvia Realm will be added.
>Balenos main questline will be revamped.
>A tutorial focusing on storytelling will be added for new characters.
>Monster Zone Information UI will be reworked.
And a new Mystic outfit is being added.
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>>637029
we got charles rene at home
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>>636249
>Is berserker actually op?
yeah
>ultimate 1v1 champ
warrior
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>>637029
>>Godr-Ayed weapons will be added.
whos going purple?
I look at it as a low cost +3-4 AP at duo/tri
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>>637330
Probably not due to the cost, but I might cave in due to staring into the abyss of having to get like 150 billion silver to get the next logical upgrade.

Really expected something like the guaranteed PEN Boss, but it's even worse than just clicking TET.
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So the Calpheon Elvia spots all have the same loot table except for the trash/traces?
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This inflation jesus christ
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>>638024
Hope you like grinding Centaurs.
Also I'd recommend buying some outfit boxes from the centeral market as a hedge against inflation.
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>still no elvia rhutum pics
This game and thread truly is dead.
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>>638257
Is this some kinda request?

>>638085
But you lose 40% taxes when reselling pearl items.
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>>638396
Just buy a 1 day value pack with loyalty to recover most of the tax loss before selling. These things always sell quickly so there isn't any concern about losing too much off of taxes.
Also the market price increases are incredibly large. About a month ago the maximum listing price for premium costumes on the Central Market nearly doubled from 473 million silver to 840 million.
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3087
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>>638085
Brother, I'm on EU.
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>>638552
Guess you're just fucked then.
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inflationbros?
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>>638929
Wait till the alch stone upgrade isnt worth 10 bil anymore and you'll see a drastic drop in silver/h. Hexe is like 250mil/h in trash and 700mil/h in alch stone fragments. Same with quints.
After a few months as prices drop both Centaurs and Kraguta both give more silver/h than this. Oluns is already 1bil/h and gyfin will remail 800mil/h.
The new spots are trash for anything but the alch stone upgrades, accs upgrades and the godr ayed shit.
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>>638939
The spots look really weird to me so far. I wouldn't be shocked to see them get some sort of overhaul loot-wise in not too distant future, maybe with more spots being introduced. Still really curious what's the plan with Star's End.
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>>638396
>reselling
You are meant to extract them for crons.
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>>638257
Elvia Rhutums are no joke. I used 365DP with Iron Wall artifacts and I could barely survive, but once nighttime hit, I got blown the fuck up so fast twice within a minute. Despite having the same AP requirements as orcs, it's substantially harder
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having to decrease the size my shai's thighs for they clip through most outfits literally unplayable
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i hate how they scam new players out of their loyalties with absolute garbage like this.
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>>642029
Makes me look forward towards 100mil silver Shakatu's boxes even more. Always a knee slapper.
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Something that makes me really sad is that Shai's maid outfit doesn't look like the others. What a wasted opportunity, makes me so sad that I can't use my Shai to process stuff while afk because her outfit looks dumb
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Here's your Valkryie costume, bro.
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can't wait to spent a hundred hours at sherekhans now
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some nice stuff

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3328&countryType=en-US
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New login rewards starting at the next daily reset.
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3331
>T3 pet with skill exp
>2 pearl costume boxes
>underwear and glasses
>clown costume
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How accurate really are Garmoth stats? Almost every time I try to compare what I get to it I way underperform on trash, while way overperforming on rest of the loot table (with the same kind of scroll). I'm not sure whether it's me just not clearing fast enough and just getting carried by drop rate increases (I tend to have them somewhat high) or people just infllating their trash numbers by using Agris fever. I tend to inclinate towards mostly the latter, but I really can't tell.
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>>644322
It's using user-generated data to come up with a prediction of how much trash you're getting per hour.
One of the things that users don't need to provide and Garmoth doesn't list as a global stat is what pets you're using. Therefore, you'll have to assume that these numbers are based on a full squad of T4 pets on agile. Having anything less than that would mean that you're gonna be getting less trash than the global average, no matter how quickly you clear packs.
The issue is probably with your pets not being at T4, since the slower loot rate is lowering the ceiling on how much trash you're picking up.
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>>644339
No, all my pets are agile and T4. Also even if they were not, then it wouldn't help answering the discrepancy between the amount of general and trash loot.
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>>644348
How's your fps when grinding then, assuming you're not playing Guardian?
this game's shit coding makes it so fps directly affects dps output
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>>644361
I don't think you're understanding what I'm asking about. It's not about why I'm not getting enough trash loot, but why I'm not getting enough trash loot, while getting way, WAY more general loot than I should be getting in comparison. If my clear/pickup speed was subpar by itself, then my general loot shouldn't be too far off from the ratio of my trash loot. I guess I didn't log my figures precisely, but over the course of time I could be getting somewhere from 75-90% of the trash loot listed (depending upon the spots), while getting anywhere from like 30-50% more of general loot, which is just off. I can see that being combination of trash loot being somewhat inflated by agris fever (I'm not counting in agris fever for the purposes of calculations), while getting benefits of more item drop rate than the general populus uses, but even then it might be slightly too extreme to be the case as I have hard time seeing how could I be getting nearly as much additional item drop rate.
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>>644371
It's probably because of Agris fever then, and it isn't a small boost.
A fully completed Agris fever pumps up trash numbers by 150%. In comparison, Agris before any of the quests are done only gives 50% more trash. Agris matters a LOT.
As for the general loot, it might just be because you're getting lucky or there's another account/server buff or event that you didn't account for.
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>>644322
>self reported by reddit and discord users
I do not trust those stats even for a second.
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>>644313
>daily login rewards
Yeah, yeah, ESO does that too (not that its any good).
>please note coupons expire 7 days after obtained
LOL.
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Why are there even separate elvia weapon buffs? I can't see any reason to not just merge them.
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>>645034
retard system the devs made, they want you to grind zones to get different elvia weapon buffs that are more effective in another elvia zone.
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>>645124
That would be fine, trying to give different buffs different effects could work, maybe. I'm talking about having to pick from getting a buff for either your main weapon or awakening weapon instead of gaining a buff for both at the same time. I really don't see the benefit of having to pick one.
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https://www.blackdesertfoundry.com/global-lab-updates-24th-june-2022/
Godr-Ayed offhand, Crons meals now have a 10 second cooldown but you won't get exp for eating them en masse, and an updated screenshot mode is in the works.
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>>645832
Nobody asked for a photo mode.
Everyone wants posing mode and more emotes in general.
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>>645837
Not likely to bother with that unless it's gonna be monetized.
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>>645852
Could be a different value pack feature, unlocks free posing mode for 30 days. Devs don't even know to cash in on shit.
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>>645854
Doesn't sounds like it'd be worth it for PA. It'd probably have to be something like individually selling it as an item similar to outfits/costumes and even then it's kind of doubtful. I'm not sure that there'd be enough of a demand for it and if it was monetized heavily it probably wouldn't be too great PR or too popular and without heavy monetization it's way too much effort for not that much gain. Trying to start getting involved into something like this while the game is close to maintenance mode instead of just chirning out outfits (that people kind of even had to demand to be released more) is not likely to happen, but I'm obviously willing to be proved wrong. It's just that general modeling and animation work in the game looks like to be a bitch to do, especially with this many classes and more to likely come in the future, so doing more of it without heavy returns doesn't seem too plausible, hell, even if PA was willing to go for it and for free I probably wouldn't be all too thrilled about it as I'd much rather see dev times being spent on something else gameplay related.
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>>645126
only if you choose the awakening you are able to do the awakening elvia skill
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where is the segs....
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>>630085
>Every single time.
Didn't believe, then I tried Lost Ark.
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>>630578
Yeah, it sux mega-balls.
I'm actually back to GW2, out of sheer desperation.
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>>630578
do you even arsha
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>the shitty extra half step every time you move is still in the game
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU GOOKS OMG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>646302
>playing nu classes
You have only yourself to blame.
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rn from top 10 AoS classes there are 8 diferent ones, I call that class balance
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shai cunny...
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>>630578
>>630575
>>630211
>Hop onto Arsha
>Hit up any spot
>Instant fights
That 50% droprate buff draws a lot of pve and pvp plauers. It is also the singular pvp encouraged server (outside of the season char only one) funelling all pvpers into it.
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I'm looking for a bitch asian slut who played this game called "Amazing Amy"
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I want to fuck a papu.
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succ striker in aos feels kino
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>>647498
You got a pic of him?
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>Think Im doing pretty good now and improved a lot on my rotation
>Look up video of how much others are pulling at the spot
>See succ striker pull a few thousand more trash using a much less sweaty combo
When the fuck will they balance the classes for pve.
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is it better to start seasons with a fast grinder like zerker or valk and then timepiece to the new class towards the class specific level up rewards? Also drakania awakening when? WTF?
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>>648085
Yes, low level drakania is a nightmare to play. Unless you have friends who boost you to lvl 60.
Awakening next month 3rd week unless PA delays it.
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>>648126
wtf wouldn't seasons be over then?
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>>648146
Yes, they will release her awakening after seasons.
Small indie dev studio, please understand.
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>>648289
Fuck you this is not warframe fucking gooks.
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Why is this the only game where I have reconnecting shit semi frequently like once a week.
>Set up for afk
>Come back to see my char standing still and not doing anything due to reconnect
No other mmorpg or online game has ever dc'd or needed to reconnect for me. What the fuck were these devs thinking when they built their entire game around some afk aspects and running the game 24/7?
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>>648085
that's the best strat if u wanna grind. if you prefer questing, the new MSQ takes you to 56 and you can just follow evildousharm's 56-61 quest guide.
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>>648543
Works on my machine, haven't had any issues ever since I changed my ISP. BDO has shit servers though, that's for sure. Maybe don't afk so often, it will give you peace of mind at least
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Sex?
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noob here, started late to the season.
got all my tuvala to TRI but only my main weapon to PEN. i yoloed alot of high level failstacks on my awakened weapon and am back to TRI on it.

i still have so many more parts to PEN but have no clue how to approach this, i am out of high level advice of valks, i could farm more tuvala mats but they only help until TRI...
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>>648779
Are you following some sort of failstack chart? You can use the Refined Stones for guaranteed DUO -> TRI, so you can just bounce from TRI->TET endlessly. If you need more mats there will be a event for it, but with pass you get one guaranteed TET -> PEN (which I guess you used on your main hand), then lot of mats from the weeklies and rifts. Fughar also gives tons of pretty good failstacks once per season. If you can't make all to PEN before the end you might want to at least do your weapons as you can make PEN Tuvala the following season and just transfer it with ease.
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>>648779
You should still have plenty of time to get everything to pen.
Try to get weapons to pen, then at least 1 piece of armor because they allow pen tuvala trade-in for boss gear.

To build failstacks, get an extra piece of tuvala armor just to fail on to get stacks.
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>T5 pets
>Pollies 380mil/h with blue now
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>>648918
WTF?! I love Chris Poli now.
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>>648918
can it keep up with valk?
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>Nobody posts lewds of their character in the thread or in discord anymore
We've lost so much..
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>>649013
it's over, all they release is full-plate armors now and ass-covering mini capes on every single outfit. also no one ever markets anything but the premium outfit boxes cause it's the most pearl to silver efficient and these dumbfucks won't increase the max price of the other outfits to keep up. in comparison to lost ark where afaik every outfit on their cash shop is marketable/auction-houseable and affordable by f2p. so it's hard to slut out on bdo.
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no sex...
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Fuck, what do now?
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Remember when video games was just some dudes getting together to make a game they'd really want to play and only really sold it for money as a formality?
When did everything go backwards...
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>>649057
Congratulations anon, now you can crawl away from your residence and play the game for real now. Arena of Solaire is pretty popular right now
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>>649137
>PvP
No, thanks.
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>>649138
But that's like half of the game bro
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>>649193
Half the game I have 0 interest in.
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>>649082
When those guys left and let the company be controlled by soulless management that only cares about $/h.
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>putting the 5k season quest before the 3k season quest
Fuck you gooks...
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is valk a good PVE class? i read she is very fast grinder is that right?
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>>649513
right now for low ap areas as an awakening valk you hold down two buttons rmb+space to grind fast and comfy. cant say anything about endgame spots tho.
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>>649193
kakao killed the pvp when they introduced pri-pen. don't blame the carebears for not wanting to participate in content that was made intentionally dogshit
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>>649513
In areas where u one or twoshot enemies she is the fastest if not second fastest (because nova awakening exists) by just holding 2 buttons. For anything higher ap she is also in the upper part of the tierlist depending on the spot. Her awakening skill rotation is also much less sweaty than other classes. Very comfortable class with high defense, and decent sustain with heals and an easy pull with her aoe taunt. Has some mp and stamina issues if you mismanage that but much better already than some of the other classes. Has some party utility too in case u ever play group content. The con however is that you will fall through the map more often tha most other classes.
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>This item can only be used in standby mode
This item can only be used in standby mode
>This item can only be used in standby mode
This item can only be used in standby mode
>This item can only be used in standby mode
This item can only be used in standby mode
>character takes forever to come to a full stop
Can you fuck off?
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>>649905
Press S once before using items
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>unskippable tutorial+cutscene with that bitch in the desert plays every time you create a new character
Can you fuck off?
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>>649980
every1 says u can skip that after u do it 1 time? also i guess we're moving back over to /vg/ til it dies again and we have to come back here.
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>>649996
>we're moving back over to /vg/ til it dies again
Might as well stay then. It is going to die.
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blackdesert....
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>/bdog/
>4 posts
>3 ip
>page 9
it's ogre...
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>>650042
It's dead.
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What really fucked this game up is the shitty storyline in the beginning. Literally unplayable. The latest expansion is better, I guess. Just can't get over the fact that this game LOOKS sexy as fuck but the NPCS and story are so... bland? All that kings n shit storyline is dry.
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>>650224
Black desert isn't a story driven mmo.
You have to create the story yourself by erping.
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>>650229
Why must it always come to this.
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Anyone sick of the accessory price inflation which is killing any motivation grind?
Not sure how after they raised the price of costumes somehow triggered this to happen.
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>>650275
Maybe it's making almost every single spot in the game 400+million silver per hour.
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>>650229
God we need more shai cunnies getting knotted.
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>>650275
Costume price and buffed spots are the main reasons, low player count also has an effect. Why grind for accessory drops when you get more silver from fucking centaurs.

I'm glad that caphras are crashing so I can atleast get some upgrades.
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>>650550
Oh, that's actually a good point. I kind of forgot that most of the boosted silver comes from just trash loot, which is just empty raw silver instead of items, which creates an imbalance that could feed into the rest of the items increasing in price. I just took more silver as more silver instead of what is actually being boosted.
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2 /bdog/ in the /vg/ archives. u literally have to spam porn in ur general thread to keep it alive these days.
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no sex...
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>This part of the story cannot be skipped
>Press and hold R for an hour to bring up a prompt about DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SKIP THIS CUTSCENE??!??!
>press esc and we kick you back to the character screen so you can rewatch the cutscene all over again!!!
CAN YOU FUUUUUUUUUUUCK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFF!!!!!!!?!??!
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>>650592
You could just make this a pr0n thread in vg.
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https://www.blackdesertfoundry.com/global-lab-updates-1st-july-2022/
>Bartering improvements
>QoL fortbuilding
>pathfinding improvements
>fishing floats have more durability
>other system improvements
>Sorc/Maehwa/Archer/Sage/Corsair buffs
Really though only Corsair got anything of value this time with a new i-frame startup move with super armor.
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Is there any relevant/updated PvE tier list or something similar. It obviously won't be the most precise information, but I just kind of wonder how much the class I keep playing sucks compared to the rest.
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>>650692
https://grumpygreen.cricket/class-tier-list/
This is the best we're gonna get. Being a poll, the results it shows may not be entirely accurate due to being too simplified or because of the participant population. It doesn't even differentiate between Awakening/Succession movesets, but a little bit of research can solve that.
Basically, Awakening Guardian and Succession Lahn are the two that are considered to be the best for PvE.
Awakening Guardian has slow animations, very few combos, but great AoE and raw damage. Easy to play, hard to mess up with.
Succession Lahn has a lot of AoE that also provides protection and is also a simple class to handle.
Awakened Tamer, Succession Nova, and Succession Sage are widely considered to be the worst for various reasons. Awakened Tamer for example doesn't have much AoE and lacks protection on the vast majority of her moves.
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>>650692
Striker, Lahn
Guardian
everything else
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>>650689
>Bartering improvements
Unless they increase the amount of money you can get by x5 it'll still be dead. .001 chance to get garmoths heart from special barter is laughable.
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>>650715
I know about the poll, but it's beyond useless in my mind. Voting on what's best does almost nothing to differentiate between classes below the top tier. At best it'll give you the idea what's considered the best and/or most popular, which really doesn't say anything about what's bad and how bad it is.

It's just that I've gotten a couple of pretty good upgrades recently, but it still doesn't seem to be as good as I would've expected it to be and I think I just might be missing something, though it just might be something in my mind, so I'm trying to find some pointers.

Either way it doesn't really matter as I'm pretty much locked to my class and even ascendancy, but it's tough to create estimations and expectations and to know whether I might be just doing something wrong without something to compare it to. Can't really use season character to do it as it's just on completely different gear level and while I can tag, I don't want to spend a decent chunk of silver to maybe get some sort of comparison if I take my time to actually learn a class that I don't even intend to play longer-term. Could maybe do during a tag event, but who knows it'll ever come back anyway.
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>>650742
It might be that the upgrade didn't put you into a higher AP bracket, or that the bracket bonus was small.
It could also be a low accuracy issue if you're at higher end spots.
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>>650746
Nah, while I only jumped one bracket and the bracket bonus isn't that large anymore, there's a bunch of bonus monster AP with general AP and accuracy I've gained recently and the spots I've been to I should be having 100% hit rate and overgearing them in general. The thing is that now there isn't even that much more to go for beyond PEN Accesories, which I don't think are even that widespread even now, so while beforehand I kind of disregarded most possible concerns as me not having that great of a gear, it should like, pretty high up now. Maybe tons people are using specialized crystals for the spots or I'm just playing poorly in general, but I find that a little doubtful. Maybe I'm doing fine, but it just feels like I might be doing something wrong and I'm trying to figure it out. I guess it's really impossible to tell from the little information I've given and I don't expect some magical solution. I'm mostly kind of just mulling things over.
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Succ lahn and awakening guardian fall off in the 300ap zones like gyfin, ash forest and calph elvia.
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>>650760
You have already completed all of the adventurer logs for that extra sheet AP and DP, right?
The selection and combination of Lightstones in your Artifacts might be a factor if you aren't getting a good set bonus.
There are also the two crystal slots that Garmoth's Heart adds to the awakening weapon that you might be missing.
It could also be that your skill add-ons are unoptimized (overlapping buffs/debuffs or anything that doesn't increase your dps).
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>>650760
>class grind spot using the right skills mob rotation gear
impossible to say what youre doing wrong without information. I only play guardian btw so wont be able to give advice eiher way.
>hitrate
turn on miss in options.
>I should be pretty high up
no idea what pretty high up means for you but it sure as hell aint 0 pen accessories.

personally I just compare it to the duodecil google doc in op who cares if you do 40 mil less than someone you have no idea of what gear or class they're using.
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>>650818
>adventurer logs, lightstones, Garmoth's Heart
Got those.
>skill add-ons are unoptimized
Maybe, it's not that I have some theorycrafted setup, but I got the useful and relevant add ons on the skills I use.

>impossible to say what youre doing wrong without information
I mean, what sort of information would you even need? What sort of stop is being talked about? I'm aware of spots like Oluns or Monastery getting really good benefit from specific setups, so I've been wondering what sort of difference would it make over general one and how prevelant they are.
>turn on miss in options
Well, I can do that, though the calculators already put me at 100%, so I'm not sure there's much of a point on that.
>no idea what pretty high up means
Do you really need to have something like PEN Accessories in every slot to be high on gear nowadays? Is that what is a very common thing nowdays?

>who cares if you do 40 mil less than someone you have no idea of what gear or class they're using
That's exactly the point. I don't care if I'm not doing all that well in itself, but I have no idea whether I should be doing about what I'm doing or whether I'm doing something wrong, hence asking about how do classes compare to eachother as it could be an obvious point of difference.
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>>650842
>>class grind spot using the right skills mob rotation gear
read nigger how the fuck should i know what spot YOU are having problem with or what gear YOU have

someone already answered your class question, striker above all then lahn then guardian after that it's whatever unless on endgame then it's striker all the way
if you want specific trash loot for every spot for every class maybe you should create a spreadsheet and do it yourself, no idea if garmoth has that feature since I dont use it.

>Is that what is a very common thing nowdays?
being "pretty high up" should not be considered a common thing.
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>>650854
Garmoth has it behind a paywall, so it might as well not even exist.
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Just last week got back in to check how it's going and to see if they've remembered that Shai exist.
>Get season character to 61 while being blinded by lightning occupying every pixel on screen
>Get underwear box
>Open on shai because it's the only way to overcome the censorship
>[Shai] Dreamland Pajamas
>Immediately lose all interest in the game again.

I mean I'm not even UUOOOOOHH, I just want the costumes to not clip into themselves and to not look ugly because NA decided to dress them as if it's 1922 and not 2022.
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>go away for months
>come back to check out new shit season class
>check market
>remember why this game is a containment game for retards and cuck whales
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before
>type of gathering depends on what tool you have equipped
>just equip the right tool and press r
now
>equip butcher knife
>press r
>does nothing
>Sorry! you have to press f5 to cycle to the type of gathering you want.
I want gooks to die.
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game is shit
play mabinogi
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>twitch drop event
>decide to look at what streamers are doing
>every single one of them has a garbage unmanaged and at least 1/2 of max slots filled inventory
What the fuck is up with these people?
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>>651203
It's coz of the tool bag. Since you can have multiple tools ready, it needs to know what you want to do.
Obviously it should default to the currently equipped tool if you dont have the bag, but then how can they push you to buy the bag when it becomes available on the pearl shop next week.
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Weekly Maintenance
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3408
>gatorade sub-weapons
>screenshot mode changes
>other QoL stuff for the Central Marketplace
>10 second cooldown on Crons meals (health exp can only be gained every 30 minutes though)
>some adventurer journals will become easier
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>>652565
So it's nothing.
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>>652569
He forgot about the tekken outfit for striker.
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>>652565
How is that even a patch?
Its more like some hot fixes.
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I finally did it lads
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>>652904
cuck
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>>652904
And now they've gone and made it easy for everyone else
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=3406&countryType=en-US
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>>652914
are any of the alternative spots better?
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got a duplicate underwear from the event box and support won't trade it for a new box, this game has to have the worst customer support of any MMO. also the captchas are hard as fuck right now.
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>>653024
>asking for free rolls on an RNG box
Is that something that works in other games? I never tried to game the support before.
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>>653032
well there are only about 10 different underwears in this specific box so your odds of getting a dupe are high. a competent dev would make it so you couldn't receive dupes in the first place to not piss players off as the dupes are completely worthless.
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>>653046
>a competent dev
>gooks
not happening buy pearls
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Why do you play the game and participate in this thread if you hate it so much?
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woo!
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unlucky gamer... No bear ones for me this time.
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>>652914
this is the 3rd? or moreth time this event is ran, and a number of the spots are just worse than the regular ones.



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