>MMO has skinner box vertical progression system instead of chad horizontal progression system
I can never finish most vertical progression games
>Just want an MMO where I can be a knight with a fairy companion it hurts
>>495996Make it yourself.
what's the difference? it sounds so dumb I never bothered to look it up
>>498311it could be easier to make a mmo everyone in the board together.
>>501846Vertical: New best in slot equipment and stronger abilities every expansion (WoW)Horizontal: Best in slot equipment never changes, new abilities are presented as alternatives to existing ones (GW2)
>>495996fairies are gayyyy
>>501889>GW2Call me when Firebrand isn't the god class
>>501889Vertical: New best in slot equipment every expansionOk so what's the difference? Best in slot not changing just means you won't have to waste your time farming to get those numbers to the new standard. Farming is just a business model for stupid bored people to spend money instead spending time. Doesn't make a difference when it comes to the game itself.>stronger abilities every expansion (WoW)What about MMOs that give you skill trees where you distribute skill points yourself where beginning skills can end up incredibly strong? How are skills not an alternative to each other there? WoW just seems very limited in that regard.
How about 2D progression where you can either upgrade your equipment or get a new best slot.
>>495729name 5 good MMOs
>>501910Horizontal progression is better for pvp focused games. Those games have power caps or simply put everyone on the same level for PvP content.Vertical progression is fun and rewarding for PvE content but incompatible with PvP. If everyone had access to all Skillpoints it would be fair. If someone can get additional Skillpoints, it would be unfair.WoW just like most older MMO never solved that problem.
>>502280The only problem is people playing MMO solely for pvp. Those games are not meant to be competitive. They're meant to be exactly what their name say, a massive hub of role playing people and it makes perfect sense for a character with more experience to be stronger.
>>502321PvP players will leave your game if PvP is just an unbalanced afterthought. Same goes for PvE players. It's difficult to have both sides coexist.
>>495729Name 5 MMOs with horizontal progression systemsI'm waiting
>>502430there aren't anyretards really think getting new abilities that are clearly superior than what they had is "horizontal progression"RPGs don't work without vertical progression therefore MMORPGs don't work without vertical progression.
>>502430no mmo does thishero shooters do this :(I agree it's best mechanic so i'll list the games in my current library that do sopaladins, dark souls(all), naraka, hunt, king of crabs, century: age of ashes, then shitty battle royals like apex
>>502430GW2, ESO, Albion, Ultima and EvE.
>>501905I uninstalled it after last EoD beta, so I wouldn't know.
>>502321>Those games are not meant to be competitivewell neither is battlefield? a lot of people play pvp mmos because there is no such thing as a large scale battle game with magic and swords that isn't an MMO.
>>495729I don't have a clue what that even means man