/vm/ Vintage Story thread. Year 4 edition. Christmas was a success, two north expeditions have failed, and the highway expeditions have created a settlement in Africa.Last one hit bump limit >>255513What is Vintage Story?More realistic hardcore minecraft basically./vm/ server: 184.108.40.206:28000Server has gotten very active lately and been a lot of fun to play with anons. It is also pirate friendly.
first for northpoleanon's autism/retardation.
STREET LIGHTS"PEOPLE"SNOW'S COVERING THE BOULEVARDSHADOWSHIDINGDRIFTER CUUUUUUNTS
>>270794'ate the norf'ate the spawnlove me soufsimple as
Since there is black powder in the game you guys think we will ever be able to build some early firearms could be used to reliably hunt more dangerous game.>tfw just want to be a trapper in the american frontier but no game really delieversatleast i get to unga bunga spear chuck i guess
>>270838oh god if they add rhinos and hippos to the souf I'd buy the game again.
>>270838Having them be made with steel & rifling with high torque wind power would just be fuckin' choice
>>270855Rhinos, Hippos, Bears, Elefants maybe even something really dangerous like Tigers and other big cats lurking in the Jungle if you miss your shot you are pretty much guranteed to be dead.
picture perfect norfLoop on the bottom left there is the site for our olympic games track & field.
>>270959Too much snow. I prefer warm sands.
>>270959>sports larpnigger this is fuckin minecraft go outside and run fatass
>>270794>just found out you can pan bony soil for more valuable shitFuck, I thought that shit was useless. Time to dig up some ruins
>>270838I am pretty sure muskets are planned. Late game is going to be seampunk shit on the roadmap. After the homesteading update some options were combat, story, mechanized shit, and ocean updates. All sound really good. I just want fuckin muskets with steel shot to balance the power.
>>271001Most of the stuff you mentioned sounds great, i just want to larp as a trapper in some snowy forest and gather pelts maybe even distill my own moonshine if the distilling update allows
>>271013I just want actual pelts. Getting different furs to make into warm winter clothing, beds, rugs etc.
>>271013Sounds comfy. I really wanna see potions/herbs/drugs
>>271099They should add dinosaurs so I can rp as Chris Pratt and save the day!!!!
Server could use some sort of online spreadsheet or something to share coords/trade offers/hits/whatever since people are spread all over.
>>271000Holy shit I never knew that
>>271692Kill kill kill kill kill kill
>you can color lanterns by using colored glass in the recipe
>>271784Wait can you actually? I thought that was not implemented.
>>271505half the charm of this game is the lack of convenience. Adding that to the experience out side of the game is kinda retarded.
>>271099If you look in the creative menu there are already herbs in the game. Don't know if they have any functions or data besides their names.
anyone know a good place to get this game 4 free
>>272045https://mega.nz/file/oZNBiSwA#b4dY_cx73N_nCGdsglDjVvKMH_-TEyQu9Af-fReyfGYMega link for version 1.14.7, I already bought the game tho, worth it imo.
>>272045mega link last/couple threads ago, someone might repost it if you cant see the thread.
>>272052>>272053I have 1.14.7, 1.14.8 is out now though
>>272055Yeah, I got 1.14.7 from a /v/ thread, maybe someone has the newest one
>>272058Guess I'll wait for IGG to update it
>>272059Wait did the server just update or something?
how alive is this game in general?
>>272364New mods are being made each week, though they are generally small-ish with larger ones being made maybe one a month?Dev patches are reasonably slow, but still coming. New ferns were announced this week.
Rip to the server >>272569
Hey dove FIX THE SERVER REE
Is this game any good?Thinking of getting it.
>>272590its pretty good, needs a bit more content but is getting an update now, try the mega link and see if you like it
>>272590If you feel that the survival elements are lacking from Minecraft and want a more in-depth survival experience, then this game may be up your alley. Other than being able to chisel individual voxels on each block and a larger variety of blocks to build with, its a lot harder to be creative in the game due to resources being harder to gather and taking longer to do so. Although when you finally get around to making a decent build instead of a mud hut it feels really satisfying due to the relative difficulty of building nice things.
>>272593>getting an update now1.5 really that soon?
>>272590To piggy back off of >>272605 there's very little convenience that doesn't feel earned once you unlock it. The game doesn't pull punches but it's also not unfair. Challenges are put in front of you and are satisfying to complete.
Learn from my mistakes /vm/bros>lose my shit to cave diving>have to rebuild>only have prop-pick in hand>use it to break/pick up the anvil to move it away from the helve>deletes the anvil instead
>>272635That's dumb. Did you know that you can break it with your bare hands?
>>272639Yep, just scrolled one slot too far and didn't think much of it.
reposting this abomination for a new Soufer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQzDG-tILbo>tfw hear this song in my head every time someone says "spawntown"
new to the game, how's the /vm/ server?
>>272645Go back to /b/ or /pol/ retard
>>272674It's a meme you dink, lurk moar
>>272674>not caring about black or trans livesI think we all know who the real retard here is. Also you sound ableist as fuck.
>>272663comfy as hell. Probably one of the more populated servers in the game right now to boot.
It's insane how long it takes to chisel stuff.
>>272763>the carved down five voxel edgesthis is a man who suffers for AESTHETICS
>>272772You know it.
>>272786Damn thats impressive
>everything in the spawn stores is spawned in with creativenice server storytards
>>272834do you just spew bullshit for the hell of it?
>>272841>10 stacks of food in chests age at the exact same time
>>272849it's called a big farm
>>272851how do you harvest hundreds of crops at the exact same time
>>272854unless the time is shown in hours, the differential is tiny. Most farms at that scale are harvested with a scythe, which does 6 to 8 plots at a time.
>>272854The person who harvests it is also a malefactor.
>>272645Are the x-axis co-ordinates positive or negative?
>>272879Positive. Path skews east.
>>272894Some folks are reporting issues ingame with staying connected.
>>272834>>272849>>272854>>272938I'm pretty sure it's one person who keeps coming to these threads to sperg about creative but this is a good point for discussion.Disclosure: I run the apothecary and lock shops. I do so without spawning (evidence: wax is always sold out and infrequently restocked, fuck if I'm going to work very hard on stocking mining bags).I'm not interested in sleuthing out whether or not other places are running with farmed or spoofed items: but I'm curious about what, if anything, would justify simulations like this among the community. I'm of the opinion the market serves as a valuable tool both as a baseline for what the community "looks" like and as a resource for new players when they start up (and aren't railroaded Souf).Does anything warrant simulation? Over time the spawn region is going to start becoming sparse: surface copper will eventually dry up. How should a new player endure in the world long enough to make a determination about where they want to go and settle themselves in? Surely they don't want to do so in the immediate area: A lot of choice locations have already been claimed or cultivated, or harvested. Without some sort of administrative touch (modded starter kits for new players like Mudwall has for example) servers become new player adverse as time goes on. As antagonistic as the 4chan community postures I'm not a fan of our community developing a slow discouraging element for newfags. I think the market counters this to some degree, whether legit or simulated.>but panningThat's a fucking chore, and not a fun chore like 80% of the rest of the game, it's slow slot machine gacha shit for a mandatory early game resource (copper) that in the normal experience can be acquired elsewhere. The baseline game accommodates for that, but this gets skewed when all players start in one spot and time elapses.
>>272949you're out because I come from the norf, clean you out, and then use it to seal my crocks for winter. Expect that to change this year as I double the size of the apiary this summer.
>>272970you realize you can seal crocks with fat too right
>>272949>Over time the spawn region is going to start becoming sparse: surface copper will eventually dry up. How should a new player endure in the world long enough to make a determination about where they want to go and settle themselves in?This is not a new concept in blocktism games. Doubly so for games that have a high degree of difficulty. From personal experience, the greatest long term success comes from doing exactly what's going on right now with the Translocator network: give players highways to leave the confines of spawn, and start out in new areas of the map.I'm not opposed to a spawn kit for new players. I think it's necessary at a minimum to give them adequate food to be able to leave the settled territories. It's not something we need at the moment however. Whatever they're given, it needs to be nothing that lets them skip levels of the tech tree, lest we make the game shorter and thinner, ultimately robbing the game experience from them.
>>272974>sealing crocks with a material only used for preserving foodOR>sealing crocks with a multipurpose material that is also edible?If you seal with fat you deserve to starve.
>>272985I have some piggers that would like to have a word with you.
Rate my setup guys. Still need to make a proper chair.
>>272993>floorchud8/10 but the case is missing something and you need gross 1x1 wires running everywhere behind the table
>>272985Wax is used for candles negorFat is best for oil lamps though. I do agree that people who seal with fat need to be killed.
>>273008I was ignoring the cases where it's used once for a persistent item, moreso focusing on the consumable aspects. It doesn't make sense to pay preserved calories to preserve calories.
>>273004add "creative mode players" to the left
>>273028>implyingwhy don't you do something productive and make your own fuckin' meme then
>>272974fuck I wish I knew that before
>>273004>comparing a town that was started years ago to a town that was started months ago
why can't I connect to the server?
>>273082OP hasn't upped allowed playercount yet :(
>>273079>actually drawing the armor
>souf in a nutshell
>>273085I just did anon. Try now then I will reset if it is not fixed
>>273079Capitalists vs commies
Would anyone pay for custom decorations/knickknacks like these?
>>273132yes, that helmet looks especially cool
>>273132All of that is chiseled? also what is that thing next to the candles.
pig 4 carrot>>273148They're supposed to be rusted swords from a long forgotten battle.
>>270794I... is this allowed on a blue board?
>>273079n*rfeners will never recover from this
>>270794messages boards are so fun
>>2707943 votes in spawn ending in 5 irl days (may go down to 2 or 3 depending on % of the server voting)Vote on demolition of abandoned buildings in citiesRemoving all janny powers/admins including from the ownerRemoving maps
>>273205removing any guaranteed way to kick/ban trolls is a surefire way to kill the server
>>273207The owner would still get to use console commands. Just no in game janny shit
>>270794VIH I AM BUYING BOOBA I NEED BOOBA
>>272699I fucking love Memri TV. A golden treasure.
Tried making one of those Venus statues. I tried doing the thing where she lays her hands on her breasts, but I couldn't get it to look right. So I modeled her arms to have a cuter pose.
>>270794can't seem to join, just says it's connecting for a while before timing out
>>273275Weird. Do you have a pirated version? If so maybe change your name
>>273247I would pay big money if you could chisel a statue for me like this
caught a couple wolf pups
>>273205Lol why remove the jannies?
>>273465BecauseFuck janniesNuff said
>>273434Who is this futurama fag who keeps building futurama shit
Guys, please don't vote against janniesIf you do, it means there can't be any more work done for the community (for free).It also means that any griefing will be substantially more detrimental and difficult to deal with.#votejanny
>>273462They will just grow up to try and kill you. Kill them now
>>273462Create a section of the arena that can be opened during a fight and fill that section with wolves. Then, while people are fighting in the arena, you can open the wolf cage and spice up the fight. Like Gladiator with the tigers that came out of the floor.
>>273721There used to be wolves in the arena, but they wouldn't shut up so they were culled.
>>270855problem is hitboxes are still as far as i know still bauxes, so big creatures get fucky hitboxwise, although hippos being so big and boxy might be ok with that. Id wager such a thing would only come about if they ever add rivers
I got a fairly nuanced question in the realm of >>272949Has anyone else noticed that open world survival crafting games tend to whiff on the whole point of tool making and tool quality progression? In human history, we manufacture better tools for two reasons: to make more/better things, or to free up our time and labor for other tasks.But most games in the genre don't really do much to incentivize either beyond what usually maps to the "midgame", and endgame content is usually a sharp spike in labor intensive progression that doesn't map to the same curve as the rest of the game. This might seem to be exponential growth in difficulty but I don't see it being a thing in practice; the changes feel disjoint and extreme.VS gets around some of this by keeping the difficulty/complexity high from day one. There's none of the classic problems of making tools to make convenient tools either, that remove some aspect of gameplay, it's all building on skills used prior, which makes the game cohesive.And yet on the precipice of steel production I'm finding myself in the same position as described above: massive jump in complexity and difficulty for moderate rewards. It feels less like progression and more like prestige.We've talked about, in game, things that would mitigate this, like match/flintlock guns being made with steel, but I'm struggling to think of much else.
>>273750The question here being: what would be worth adding to make steelmaking more than just "hard work for bigger numbers on the tools"
>>273750I feel like we just need more content, steel is eeeh too much work. I feel like we need more enemies and dungeons so that actually wasting resources on weapons and armor makes sense
>>273374it's not pirated, and when i add the server it also says it can't connect. do i need to port forward?
>>273750At least with steel, I feel like that because it's basically upgrading iron is why it takes so long. There's got to be a point where using iron tools is still worth it. The only reason to have steel tools other than higher durability and marginally faster mining speeds is to make armor that doesn't break like wet paper when hit by the strongest enemy in the game and mining an ore that makes steel making more convenient.
>>273209booba specs? I take money drop-off at Basalisk
Is the Southern Network Hermes Initiative?
>>273750I mean automation to an extent. Steel does not have much reward other than powerful tools and prestige. But to automate mills, brick making, and helve hammers better/at all you need to progress to bronze. And copper rewards you with shit that actually changes the game like saws and chisels.
>>273785Vih we can push out the Northern end of the Basilisk complex and put a small building up for you since it seems to be a good bisection point for some of the players.
don't have this game, is it like terrafirmacraft/immersive engineering together?but good in a stable engine?
>>273867Initial scouting and portal activation was handled by the HI, the refinement of the network structure and buildings is moreso other interested players on the server that volunteered. HI is less of a location-based community and more of a third party organization interested in keeping the server infrastructure growing and sensible. We're currently thinking about how to make incidental courier work for players traveling between communities rewarding / easy.
>be south nigger>be a literal black gorilla nigger monkey>starve to death
>>273893That's kinda my point, I'm miffed that there's not some steel axel system that can handle bigger sails/more torque/etc.I think if there was more to lean into in automation you might have a completely valid point but I don't see it.
>>273977oh fuck, okay, wrong post for this image.Someone asked a few days ago what's the best way to quarry. This is it.You're dealing with three main patterns, the star, zigzag, and dotted line. Cut these patterns into the stone, and then cut straight lines along them underneath that maximize the amount of stone beneath you have access to. Cut dotted lines and stars right through the middle on the layer below, and pick whichever side on a zigzag that would net you a star on the layer below.
>>273785I put payment in a chest at your shop. Put a booba in, take silver out.
>>274055I'd rather some kind of peasant class or something instead so I can make an actual village. More so if said peasants can be armed with swords and bows for protection.
is this the oldest anarchy server in Vintage Story?
can't connect"no such host is known"
>>274124If you type in the ip as in the op it worked just fine
>>274076Sort of but also anarchy fags are annoying little retards
>>274152did you type it in ip or server name?
>>270794I have been attempting a march to the north pole but i'm not salty. So far i'm at about 31k and recorded the first 27k of it before my computer ran out of space if anyone wants to see. I started with nothing but clothes and fug is it actually hard to do.
>>274165>>274156nevermind when I copy and pasted it I had a dumbass space in betweenI'm in now
>>270855They are adding raptors. Hopefully some other animals
Hey Dove I'd like to talk to you about opening a store when you have the time.
Where the first North Expedition ended. My stuff was still there.
>>274208I am gunna drive a lot. You can open any store in any place with space in the shops. Or anywhere along roads/spawntown/outside your house
Light fog as the snows melt in the North.
The Seal of the Barony of the Northern Wastes.
Named after Gravy_boi.
>>274355What are you at now? Honestly it feels like 50k might as well be the start of the arctic. The last 50k I imagine is pure hell
>>274162How are you getting food up there?
>>274355very cool, all very cool
>>274408I was killing wolves, foxes, and rams. New chunks aren't frozen with water. Hit them, lead them to water, meat.
chikin mushing boys
>>270794>pirate friendlycs.rin.ru doesn't have any of the latest versions, where should I download it for the time being? (I plan on buying it next paycheck, as I always enjoy supporting indie devs)
>>274471No idea anon. I paid for it and might even get an alt to nameswipe. One dude in the server got lovecraft as their user. Most people just googled vintage story free from what I heard
I love maple syrup
>>274471Don't worry, you can buy the game again now.
>>274486REEEE canadians get off this thread
>>274469Is this a mod?
>>274498nope dev stuff for 1.5 ropes for animals and fencing and shit
new tree also looks like
>89 canadians on vmwtf are you all canadian.Also speaking of canadian, carrot, these are the icebergs I mentioned on my trip north
>failed to connect to the server :(
>>274471Unfortunatly the only site i know is vsetop but it only has v 1.14.7 while the latest version is 1.14.8 so not a big differnceYou have to download it in torrent and the installer will ask you if you want to install shit like war thunder and world of tanksJust don't spam next and you will be fine
I will become king under the mountain....
does anyone have the download?or can i just pirate?is there even a proper /vm/ archive?
i've rebuilt this shit multiple times now, fuck this shit
>>274581Really wierd, can you remove the glass slab directly behind the hammer? Maybe it's fucking with it somehow
>>274584holy shit, that was it. it works now.
>>274604Maybe try and move the whole mechanism one block inwards, then you'd get to keep the glass window
fuck, someone logged in with another bootleg account and fucked up my character, lost all my shit, specc I think it was.IF YOU HAVE A BOOTLEG ACCOUNT, MAKE SURE TO SET YOUR PASSWORD AND NOT JUST YOUR NAME
https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/379We should consider adding this and building a whitelist.
Had enough of those foxes
Alright PiratechadsThis is the linkhttps://vsetop.org/games/4059-vintage-story-torrent.htmlIt's a torrent download and the site is russian but the game is notIt's the version 1.14.7 while the latest is 1.14.8 but i was still able to comnect to the serverJust remeber to not spam the next button during the setup since it will ask you if you want to download war thunder and world of thanks, just click skipAlso check the mod folder since a older version i downlaoded had some random mod in itWhen you open the game and it ask you to login don't worry you can type whatever you want and it will still workDO NOT LEAVE THE PASSWORD FIELD EMPTYFrom what i figured each account is formed by name+passwordAka two anon can have the same name but as long as they have different password they will have separete inventory and respawn location and etc.But if you leave the password field empty any anon use your name and steal you shitCorrect me if i got anything wrong
>>274815you fucking monster
>>274839worse than stealing, both inventories went poof, we both lost our shit
we were talking about trying no map.. only local chat, actual hardcore
>>274936As far as I know, there is no way to disable global chat server side yet. Just client side. If there was a way I would put a vote on it.>>274934Naw the server hits 16-17 players peak hours now
>>274917What is as lost? I could reimburse you
>>274936that's stepping a bit too far over the aspergers line
>>274936In what universe is this a good idea.
>>274960Not him but I just want a teleport to my team, my stuff went kaput when I logged in today with a new bootleg account. I didn't have much but I spawned in the North instead of the South
>>274960I am Crongy, mostly just blocks that I was using to build my palace but the most important was some meteoric tools, steel and my golden chain to show off that I am the prince of the souf
>>274967>>274964meh, dunno, just to force everyone to be "near" each other, what's the point of multiplayer if everyone makes houses at the edge of the map
>>274969Yeah you gotta use a temporal gear to change spawns>>274974Most people live in towns. Discovering abandoned cabins is cool. We still have server events and you can always host an arena tournament or art competition or make a shop or some shit
Hey Vih is this legal booba tender? If so how much plaster can I buy with it?
YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME!!!!!
RESTART TIMESOUF CHADS FORCE A RESTART
>>270794Kinda cool to see how the server evolved from sone age mud huts. Also I noticed that the server when it was small pop went from people wanting to have small castles and feasts as the end game, to wanting cities that mog the others in art, wealth, and architecture.
>>275076Also not a norfer but norf has the best actual city. Spwntown is cool but kind of all over the place and more a meeting area than lived in these days. Souf is getting there. 100k souf shit seems interesting since they plan to settle.
>>275078Spawntown needs a lot of work. I did a lot of it and I'm willing to throw it out either by deconstructing it or having admin reset the area if a vote passed on it and it'd bring people back to congregate and do something more organized.
>>275080I think for spawntown, the market and north sections are fine. But after the next voting session, I might put up a vote to demolish the abandoned homes and farms in the south of it. Someone should make a political group to have a spawntown meeting not clog the main chat. We need to discuss what to do with the abandoned spawntown farms/buildings and have a Geneva convention of sorts to make actual rules for war eventually (a thought because of the souf/norf rivalry, could be settled in an arena or some shit). Shit that will actually effect the server,
>>275080spawn is fine?? wtf no we don't need a reset on the spawn. yeah it isn't amazing but it is where it all began, it deserves to stay and many people still live there
>>275088lotta murders today, actual war might happen soon
reset the whole map in 1.15 desu
>>270794Wtf why are they adding pizza lol
>>275088>>275080why does everything have to be so organized? it doesn't have to be commie blocks everywhere
>>275090Democratic server we gotta vote on it but owner here, I likely will leave it as is unless we really need a new building.>>275095Probably not. Anons have put a lot of time into their shit. I probably will not do a map reset until an ocean update. The next update has shit that will spawn naturally in already found chunks. If I do reset the map though two things:I will make a public download for the serverAnd I will consider copying templates of old towns/buildings if people want their shit in a new server.
>>275098I think the sentiment is that people want to try and bring people back to spawntown. Doubt it will happen though. By the end of server year 2, spawntown went from a permanent settlement to a traveller’s hub. I agree with demolishing abandoned farms in the area to open up room for new player housing but there are not many public works needed left in the area so idk.
>>275106Did you ever bump the claim amount?
>>275126Gunna do it tonight. The command for it is weird. I think by deafult the role is player?
Turns oot the North Pole is only 50k blocks north of spawn and the South Pole is 150k blocks south of spawn, so >>274344 was the North Pole. I plan on continuing to go north.Also shoutout to the souf expedition who just crossed the equator!
>>275168Named after Rockum.
>>275170-43 Celsius in the Carrot Mountains.
>>275129>>275126actually claiming on an anarchy server.. I have a new vote to propose
>>275181>anarchy serverYou realize this is a meme right? That it just applies to no server rules and that game mechanics are OK.
>>275181You can propose votes but claiming is a vanilla game mechanic
>>275181I'd only get rid of claims if there was anyway of defending against offline raids without them.
can I play in the /vm/ server if I'm using this version >>272052 instead of the most updated one? If not how can I update it?
>>275210I would say that there should be an agreement on offline raids, make it an actual rule>>275203>>275196is it really? that's lame>>275226no need to update, that one is fine, get the fuck in here samurai
>>275235>no need to update, that one is fine, get the fuck in here samuraifucking sweetit's gaming time
>>275235>I would say that there should be an agreement on offline raids, make it an actual ruleIt only works if people obey it, claims just make it so you don't have to retroactively clean things up afterwards.Personally the problem I have with this system is the consensual war portion. Nobody is ever going to agree to having their shit fucked with.
>>275242>Nobody is ever going to agree to having their shit fucked with.Yeah, even if both sides agree to fight, it's really easy for me to imagine the shitty drama and crying that would come from either sides after they realize how much they loss. I think 1v1s or however many in the arena and planned battles in predetermined sections of land is the best way to do wars. Gear could or could not be protected, and sides could put in wagers so there's an incentive to win.
>>270794New to the game, how do i look for the /vm/ server in the multiplayer search bar?
>>275261Look man i just wanna know how to use that thing in the op im a techlet and a boomer pls andastan
>>275344just got restarted
85k down souf
>>275349based hunter gatherers
>>275097i think that's a record...
>>275356its a pizza on a record player
>>275355Speaking ofLiterally nothing is comfier than living inna woods in the server and going out to collect mushrooms and medecine
>>272052its not launching?
>>275441Dunno try this linkWorka for me>>274839
>>275377So that mean we're getting tomatos, and a proper oven this update?
Hermes Initiative has some explaining to do
Kitchen looking comfy
>>275695Any mods? Looking really nice
>>275712No mods. Just chiseled it out on ther server
RIP to Carrot's cuck shed. Gone but not forgotten.
>>275719How did you make those glass windows?
Rockum get back online you cuck
>>275738looks up leaded glass
>>270794Videos of me and gravy testing the new pvp arena kitshttps://youtu.be/3PXnmoGsSSEhttps://youtu.be/YMWfhe-ZfUg
>>275695Holy fuckin comfy batman! The spices and the oven look great.
The blm house has been demolished. This is a victory for racism
>>275690Oh don't you worry your pretty little head over those. Just part of my elegant cipher system.
>>275955(They're all full of dirt.)
>>275168You're such a fucking retard you didn't even know you accomplished your goal.
>>270794There carrot. The last of them are gone
>>270794Holy shit carrying a lantern increased hunger rate wtf that is why it was so high for me
>>276356There's a mod that removes that hunger rate.
DO YOU THINK THIS IS A FUCKING GAME?
>>276416Herd them all into a small pen, then when they grow kill them all and harvest their meat and fat.
>>276416God imagine if they got to grow up. Honestly if someone stockpiles wolf pups in some cave in a town or some shit, raises them, and then releases them you could make that area impossible to move through/live in for a bit until some archers or some shit deal with it.
>>270794Luv me greggs
>>270794Wtf is this did one of you make it? I found it in the middle of nowhere
>>276575Under the tree looks cool
Made a shrine to the seasonal gods. May the winters be quick and mild and your harvets be bountiful.
>>276597pretty cool, but also ur gay
>>276599>not having a comfy escapist larp in video gamescringe
Alright which one of you fuckers put this sign in my room
>>276773You'll never find me
In honor of our government building's completion, and the summer solstice, the Norf would like to invite the server up to our town for a feast and festival, tonight at 9pm EST.Free food, and an open air market in the field of pic related will be setup, traders are encouraged to bring wares to barter. Resident traders will predominantly be taking payment in iron, but we will offer favorable exchange rates for foreign currency at the state bank.Hope to see you all there!
Are the maps in this game procedurally generated?
>>276886Yep, it's standard fare blocktism game with a lot of cool features layered on top.You get some great locales like pic related
I have no money at the moment, so is pirating this game feasible? Would i be able to play on the serb?
>>276915There's some links up in the thread, and yeah they'll work for the serb.
Out for a jog
I just booted up the game, and i feel like i've just opened pandora's box.
Lemme know when the storm's over, too.
>>276854Based I will be there T. Soufer. Takes an hour is to talk there >tfw no roads to norf. The translocator is nice though
I dunno what the fuck i expected, honestly. Neat game, but i'd prefer not to be hunted down like that.
>>277192that's just Dainn.If you decide to come back the Norf will welcome you.
>>277192Lilam. The name itself reminisces my unalloyed feelings of ecstasy - the ecstasy of which your sheer presence culminates. Before you came into my life, I felt nothing. My life, but a devoid absence of which I merely survived through; I've never lived. But the moment in which I saw that message, that godforsaken message, "Lilum joined. Say hi :)", my life has been forever enlightened. I finally feel like i'm alive. You may never requite my joy, but I do not care - my love for you will prevail - prevail through the darkest of ages, the lowest of lows, and through the highest of highs. Time is a fickle thing, its grasp on me easing as soon as you walk my way, its cruel control seeping through my skin as I lay my unworthy eyes upon your in-game character, tears streaming down my wretched cheeks as I carefully observe your every move, each successively more ethereal than the last. The distinct way your avatar moves, the way you type, the way you panic as I approach you... I've never felt such infatuation. Lillium, our meeting may have been brief, but alas, I have the innermost conviction that we will meet again. My hands tremble with anticipation; I will count every second I wait in this disconsolate place, the place in which you so readily abandoned..... yet your hesitance only cultivates my yearning. I love you. No.... "love" is an insult to how i truly feel. Words do my passion an injustice. May we meet again, Liam, my little kitten.-Dainn
>>276854reminder this is in 15 minutes
Shit poppin' on /vm/ server at the first annual Norfair
>>277310>NorfairWhelp, this is the official name now!Next year we'll do a bit more prep, have those archery games setup in a semi-permanent location. In addition, we've got the temporal gears to host a fight club as well, so bring your armor and your balls of steel. Winner will take home 32 iron ingots, and a chiseled trophy.Thanks everyone who came out, was hella fun.
>>277310>>277262>tfw I slept through it and it would take me too long to walk there
>>277208Dainn did you murder an innocent player
>>277341Honestly this I was looking forward to it. Oh well. Always next year. Also christmas.
>>277330Hey mal. Would you mind detailing the first norfair itt so I can put it in the archive.Year is 1390, took place in norf, held by mal, lots of games, and may encourage an iron standard and increase trade/travel to norf.
>>277354Christened our Government Building. Gave a speech for the Norfers and guests, before yeeting myself off the balcony to commence festivities.Lots of folks in the open air market, Gravy gave away sculptures, Chalis, Circumsamurai and I sold general goods, and Carrot had a "U-PAN-IT" booth which netted all kinds of baubles. Turns out you can get temporal gears from panning too.Had an archery tournament, came down to a showdown between Gravy and Circumsamurai, they tied again, so we upped the distance to lengthwise down the track, Csam won 2/3 to 0/3 shots, and was awarded 10 iron.Plenty of trade, in iron without the need for exchange, shout out to Vih for our excellent Aquilae statues, and the recessed eagle carving that's in the main hallway now.Also TinCadet and Dainn earned a ban from the town, as they vandalized it repeatedly with pro-BLM propaganda.
>>277358TyAlso for the economic recordings, I was writing about the iron standard. What are the differences in norf banking to spawntown? When I was there I noticed chests and a hopper (I hope you got my 28 iron payment)
>>277389>>277358Also if the blm stuff is bad enough, next time I am in spawntown do you want me to put hits out on the two?
>>277390Considering TinCadet and Bab just tried to ambush me in town? yeah, 5 iron each.
>>277396Okay so tin cadet and bab, none on dainn. Kills on them will count if anyone reads this in the thread. I will post on the board after I get dq or mc donalds or some shitFucking souf niggers.
>>277389Not something I can really detail off the top of my head, I'd recommend spending some time in the region to get a feel.We do have a 6:1 Copper -> Iron exchange rate, it's a little higher than spawntown if I recall correctly. I did get the payment for the plot, thank you.
I get to be schrodinger's player wondering whether or not I got killed or actually managed to log out.
>>277358>>277396>>277399Coward. Keep running. I'll be laughing when you die
>>277408We're waiting :^)
>>277408They will get bored or killed by norf residents eventually.
Welp that concludes the first expedition to the south pole. 111025 blocks (south pole is at 150k) is the furthest anyone has gone from spawn and I'm proud of how long I was able to persist in this long and brutal walk. Special thanks to TooSalty for inspiring me to take this trip. Eventually, I hope someone can surpass my record and make it all the way to the south pole.
>>277424So are you gunna an hero back to spawn? It is a shame that cat died twice at 80k and ragequit. I am working on the archive article for souf and norf expeditions (including doomed one in the norf)
>>277432>>277424Oh nevermind you died. Also based staying a good sport and not ragequitting.
>>277410>>277409I'm not hearing any laughter
>>270794>guy gets bullied out of server for being called a girl or some shit>large fair with events and shit ending with an attempted (debated) assassination of the norf leaderHole eventful night
how will he ever recover
>>270794god this game can look so nice
my torrented game suddenly crashes now, what do i do?
>>277620Used to happen to me aswell, I bought the game and updated to 1.14.8 :^). I think it actually got fixed after I installed some mods wierdly enough.
>>270794Posting more mountians. These bad boys are the first range southeast of norfA few lives have been lost climbing them but they have a really cool valley. Bring ladders if you plan on climbing
>>277663Fuck and I forgot pic am retarded
i cant find these storms on the guidewhat are they?
full silver chain to style on dem jannies
>>277779now do plate
>>277903do gold plate now
>tfw trying not to do too much exploration in my world in an attempt to hold out for the ocean updateI don't know why I'm doing this.
Made some changes to my setup
>>277903Oooh that's a nice display piece
Dove you fucking asshole. You paid the fucking griefer to come to my town, and he just fucking BLM'd all my fucking signs again. Worst part is there's no recourse. He's just a fucking vagrant with nothing built, killing him literally will not matter, claimed or not, doesn't prevent sign edits, I can reinforce signs but then there's no public job board and I'm forced to micromanage everything instead.
>>278126Wait who. I just woke up. I paid one guy to go but he went with me and just put one sign on your message board. That was probably tc who I did not pay.
>>277903>full silver armorWill you ever use it?
This is mostly everything I have in stock right now. I'm planning on adding foodstuffs and animals later. I'd like some suggestions here so I don't lose them in a 20 line long chat box.
>>278232it's a collector's item
Best armor for delving deep into the abyss?
>>278332Iron or better. Stops everything short of nightmare drifters. Keep healing items on you regardless, and keep track of your way out, temporal stability can be more of a problem than the drifters.
>>278240>indicator flag that can be easily rotated with a chisel to mark something, mainly for use with mailboxes.>dice, coasters, bar rags, pub style beer taps>inlaid countertops, tables, chairs>"blanks" for framing chiseled text
Poked my head in the official discord to ask about the possibility of autodownloading mods, turns out the developer of the 3rd party launcher is adding this very soon, 95% complete by their own words, meaning it should be possible to add mods to the server soon without the autistic whining about manually downloading. Couple of neat ones we could add, namely Expanded Foods, and Expanded Traders, as well as a brand new one called Defensive Structures.https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/57 Launcher linkSomething to discuss as a community, and I think it'd give a longer lifespan to the server for most folks as well as a reason for the spawntown players to come back, without making it hard for complete newbros to join the game.
>>277779What jannies retard?
>>278216Nigga it wasn’t me there was a power outage for 18 hours where I live, also go cry about it >>278126
>>277434if the game would have given me a single fucking temp after a dry run of at least 100 drifters maybe I wouldn't have rage quit
>>278368We could do a vote on it but idk if i'd run a server with outdated mods. But I would do the prim hunting one and med expansion>>278332chain bronze is good enough. Iron or better usually
>>278492Whatever we do we should do it after 1.15 has been around awhile, the pirated version is going to need updates before a good chunk of the server will play
I'm all in if we could get mods going at some point I'm admittingly starting to burn out on the server a bit. Here's hoping 1.15 isn't too far out. Some mod suggestions: xskills is great for progression and specialization.expanded foods and carry capacity should be vanilla.QPtech adds some more automation and an icebox. Workbench expansion allows for chisel work to be copied.trade-o-mat allows for real shops with any currency.SpecializedBags adds 3 more bags like the miner one.Ferrospear adds the tiers of spear not in vanilla.
>>278562If we're going to have the mod discussion we should probably take into account the problem a lot of these mods have: There's a lot of convenience mods that ruin the gameplay rather than add to it, by shortcutting or making things too simple.>Workbench expansion allows for chisel work to be copied.For example, this one invalidates chiseling as a specialization. Half the value in chiseling at the moment is the fact that they can't be easily copied, so each chiseled work is inherently valuable, not just another art piece in a digital age like today.>SpecializedBags adds 3 more bags like the miner one.You could argue this is the same vein, though it's a less effective argument given that mining bags exist. That being said it adds further convenience to a working system.>expanded foods and carry capacity should be vanilla.>Ferrospear adds the tiers of spear not in vanilla.This is the kind of stuff we should be adding: things that mesh well and add to the vanilla experience and ethos without taking away from other parts of the game.>xskills is great for progression and specialization.Thinking long term: if a specialist quits and you just can't do the job they were filling because of arbitrary numbers, that's pretty shit. >trade-o-mat allows for real shops with any currency.I could go either way on this. I like the fact that the honor system is somewhat required to operate like we have been but as people get bored and begin to divest from the server there's more room for griefing without this.tl;dr don't add mods because they make things easy, add mods that add more content or make existing content more interesting/fun
what towns are there besied north and south and how do get there
>>278562I love some of those mods but how would they work if something was added to the game? Like an ice box is planned and currency might be added, the mod could corrupt the server. I would probably wait for the next update then we could have a vote on it.Speaking of votes. Someone took down the signs for the vote to ban players deemed too much of a problem for the server (like large scale griefing) so how would you feel about just deporting them (changing their spawn) to an inhospitable empty corner of the world? (Australia)>>278593Spawntown is the only other populated town. The company is sort of a town but more just players working to supply trade. We probably need more players if we want to see more proper towns like norf sprout up.
>>278596Norf here, I will unironically sponsor anyone who seriously takes up the mantle of starting a new town, even if that means we end up fighting a week later. I don't like the norf being the only organized and active group. Without some basic conflict/competition things are gonna get stale.
>>278596how much new players are figuering out the game atm?me and some other new guy prob will settle to make a village somewheres after were set
>>278596Absolutely would vote yes on an Exile system of somekind.
>>278562Anvil metal recovery is pretty neat.you get scraps of metal back when smithing based on how many voxels get removed.
>>270794Business is doing just fineJust hired a few new traders to make the rounds for meMight put up some temp worker housing, get new players to work for me for food.
>>278613We had 4 brand new players last night, so you're not going to be the only ones.>>278735If you hire any of the folks who I've got hits out on, don't think they won't be killed coming to the Norf. Your goods will belong to whomever puts them down.
>>278741I can have them do the sneed, souf, and central market runs. I just did the latest norf run
>>278741It's just buisness Mal. Why do you continue to see seethe
>>278761idfc, I'm just warning Dove so he isn't salty when I slaughter his peons and keep the goods.
>>270794Wip will be done in a few days probably.
>>278741I plan on coming to the north and making off with all of the goods I canI've already robbed spawntown blind and you are next
>>278920sounds like cat_pottery
>>278935No that is absolutely Carrot, I am sure
Prepare for a greeting, Rockum.
>>278962sounds like cat_pottery
>>278970that one wasn't actually meI was just killing Baarn
cat_pottery seems to be attacking on sight. killed a player recently
>>279025I had 3 granite spears and nothing to throw them at
>server crashedruh roh.
The Barony of the Northern Wastes will be holding a Trial to absolve or uphold TC's ban from entering Barony lands. Anyone who was at Norfair this weekend are welcome to attend and give testimony.
what happens if someone actually griefs someone on the server?
>>279084you combat logged twice lol
>>279086yes, so you didnt kill me
>>279091cause ur a coward bitch
cat_pottery is heading up north, at 5, 1, -6000
1445, 1, 3029 for babmane
>Keep seeing these threadsHuh. Is the game actually that good?
>>279122it's autistic, but it's super rewarding for your autism. There's a pirate client link in the thread you have zero excuse not to try.
>>279123>zero excuseNah, I've actually been shying away from pirating games, not for some stupid reason like "I'm afraid of getting caught" or "Because it's wrong."But literally because I have too fucking many games to play. So not pirating stuff means I have to actually buy them which pushes me towards actually playing my games instead of constantly dropping stuff from last week and picking up whatever this week. I'll just keep an eye on it and maybe pick it up during a Humble sale.
bingus x cat_potter
I love bingus
Got some new items in stock if anyone wants to check them out.>>279147There he is, Lil' Pigster.
The north is composed of violent barbarians who's ptiiful attempts at justice would anger anyone from a true God Fearing Country, such as the United States of America
>>279163barbarism is a world where the sword is sheathed in the face of barbarians at the gate.
>>279079Owner here. The server will probably be less fun. Less trade/travel and people will start claiming their builds so you can’t visit or interact with them.
>>279172I'll grief everything if you don't remove claiming right this instantfirst stop Spawntown
anyone know where a clothing trader is?
will the norf ever get actual police or will it be mob rule
bingus = cat_pottery
>>279179north of spawn house across the lake
>>279174your brain doesn't function right if you think that is gonna work
>>279206>griefs to protest claim system>*everything gets claimed to stop grief*>whaaat???
Posting it here so everyone is aware, TinCadet failed his appeal of his territory ban, but given the length and voracity of the trial and his arguments, the Barony will be reducing his ban from the territory from permanent to 24 hours.
>>279219Who made the final verdict?
>>279226Carrot denied the appeal, recommend the state commute the sentence due to the behavior during the appeal.
Recorded proof of random deathmatch from cat upon othersStill heading up north
>>279227What does this even mean/ entail. Can we speak colloquially please
>>278613I'm considering building a new town to the west but this shit will take some time
>>279236It means TC's allowed back tomorrow because he was a good lad and went through the tedium of a full trial to clear his name, rather than being barred from the Norf permanently.
cry about it. dumbass fell from a height, items stolen from players killed fell with them
>>279233lol put a bounty on him
>>279147I can't believe how many people showed up to afk at this. I'm sorry I didn't make it more fun for people, I especially feel like I didn't do well by the defense; you deserve better for being good sports and even making it happen in the first place. Let me know if I can make it up to you.
>>279279I was unable to visit the court myself due to distance / lack of relation with Norf but I was highly entertained with the process in chat nonetheless. You did well
>>279279mate you were fine, the fun was the procedure and the fact that we were actually adjudicating something that happened organically, not some contrivance specifically so we could have a trial.The peanut gallery was fun as well, as much as I shit on Bab/Bingus during the trial them being there was a perfect level of distraction and levity.
>>279249See >>278610Feel free to ask for whatever jumpstart you feel you need.
GOOD LUCK FINDING YOUR SHIT NOW LMFAO. SHOULDN'T HAVE LOGGED OFF
>>279286Thanks anon, i'll take the offer in consideration, but all a town really needs is townspeople; Infrastructure can be set up by one very dedicated autist so i'll work on it slowly once i'm well set-up.
Got into this game because of /vm/. Unironically love this game. This is exactly what I was looking for with its modding capability, realistic survival mechanics, and minecraft style autism blocks / voxels. Thanks for introducing. Once I'm done bumbling through mechanics enough to understand some myself, I will most likely join the server and try to help establish the new town, but forgive me if I spend some time on my own. I'm a fast learner but have no natural intuition.
>>279399THE new town?im going to start a new town north like tommorow, not sure if you mean that... i hope so
>>279404Yeah, helping hands make light work. I'm not too good at this game yet, though, but I'll try my best
>>279279You did fine. I am still a little salty that you found me guilty, but it seems you are ultimately the one that rescinded/ appealed to vindicate me, even if it was in part due to any emotional plea I made. Still a little confused on what part Mal had to play in the final judgment, though.
NORF RAIIIIDSOUFERN PRIDE REEEEEEEEEEEEECRY ALL YOU WANT, YOU CAN'T UNWINDMILL THE SOUF
>>279404I'm starting a town to the west, fall past the mountains, i shall find the perfect place, even if it costs me multiple lives
we got a discord server fellas?
>>279473the general is alive, so prob not
>>270794What is the "point" of the server?I have joined plenty of Minecraft servers, from small to large, and found most of them incredibly boring. The only ones I have had any fun in are the Pixelmon servers, mainly because they have a "goal" to work towards. In there, I want to make a competitive team, which is a very long-term goal, and has many sub-goals.What is there for me to work towards in your server?
>>279476>>279473Discord is cringe>>279486I mean vs is not minecraft. Mostly in this server people try and make comfy homes. The goal depends on the player though. Like at one point we had people racing to be the first to reach the poles, some people want to become rich like the whole copper vs iron standard with markets. Some people have the goal to make the most “civilized” town with the best art of architecture or some shit. Some people have meme celebrations which are fun.The main goal of the game in single player is to just reach the steel age.
>>279488>>279486To add this game can be really slow and is not for everyone. Builds take way longer to complete than in mc. It is also a lot harder to survive which is part of why we ended up with markets and later banks to distribute resources that some anons specialize in producing (classes in the game so some classes are better with food, some with hide/meat, some with mining, etc)
>>279494>>279488That actually kind of sounds interesting. I might check it out later today.
i wonder what lurks down here?
I've swam too deep
>>279508Based. I have been working on the sneeds in the server but I think it's a little big and I am making it too complex. Might just scrap and do something more simple.
since a couple people have asked: time to tism post about why the iron standard is superiorCopper and to some extent bronze, are entry level metals. You're not really playing the game until you've reached the point where you're working with those in some non-trivial amount. A huge amount of content is gated behind those metals, so making folks balance spending copper on things that may or may not be necessary, or using that metal to expand their options, seems like a net negative for the server and the player. The temptation to stunt your progression for food/materials/equipment is pretty severe, and while a little hyperbolic, in the worst case can make an underclass for those folks who stay in that cycle. Also on a very simple level you can literally find the metal on the ground, there's no scarcity and it will always be abundant.Iron ingots on the other hand requires investment to create, in both labor, infrastructure, and fuel. By the time you're making iron you've solved your immediate concerns of food, shelter, and tools. Moreover if you're a new player doing work for someone using the iron standard, the material itself can bootstrap you up the tech tree by providing a durable tool material, and most folks will let you borrow the appropriate anvil if you BYOF. Moreover, the supply will fluctuate depending on the activity of the players, as the fuel requirements mean eventually you'll be using that fuel for other things. Converting absolutely all of your iron nuggets to bars is not always a beneficial use of your time or resources, even if the market is flush with secondary materials for you to buy.
>>279558to tism post furtherChalis' plaster sales are the textbook example of why this system works. He took a market that was labor intensive and in demand, specialized in it, charged 3 Iron a stack, and eventually made enough money from the town's build craze last week to commission iron armor. All without having to touch an anvil himself. Moreover he went from copper/bronze to Iron just by providing a service.Perfect example of the encouragement of specialization well into the the later parts of the game.
>>279473unironically run off anyone who makes a discord for this server, they are trannies and deserve the blade.
>>279565Got an idea for a vote. Discord trannies get deported to Australia
>>279558I feel that these criticisms would be be valid if there wasn't a metal exchange system and other currencies (stone, clay, reeds, etc.) going on. Most players don't mind being payed in other metals as long as the conversions are correct. I feel like dove needs to revaluate the current value of metals, as there has been an exponential increase of players and resources since he has last checked the prices of metal (if he hasn't already done so recently). I feel like I shouldn't use steel chisels for making my decorations as it would take me selling 30 of my cheapest items to break even.
>>279573Yeah I checked. I need to change values today. My problem with the iron standard is the extra labor to make actual iron with the charcoal, time, and effort for the bloom working. The amount of iron nuggets needed for a bloom shouldn't = the cost of an iron bar.
>>279573We're far enough away even with the TL network where practically speaking the metal exchange doesn't exist. Also helps that the State literally does not recognize any other metal/item as legal tender.>>279579>"seethe"more like repeating for the retards who didn't get the message. Is it summer yet? Seems pretty summer right now.
>anarchy server>claim systemPick one
>>279609it's running vanilla, would need a vote on that.
Should I play on the server if it's my first time or is that going to spoil too much shit for me? I like the discovery aspect of these types of games.
>>279732Depends on how you play on it. There's definitely still plenty of room for you to jump on, fuck off to your own little corner and build.If you're wanting the discovery/DIY aspect, don't join a town.
>>279732If this is a priority for you I'd strongly recommend you fumble around in single player for the first 10 hours before trying the server. The community will still be around afterwards; your chance at organic first impressions won't.
crongy here, shit I feel like I missed a lot of stuff getting burnout from vintage since there isn't more content other than build
temp storm gone yet?
Hey Maldaris, is there any way I could open a chiseled imports shop from my work in Spawntown?
>>279943There's a small marketplace next to the bank you're welcome to setup in, and Boymeeting's making a new one with larger stores.So yes, bring the trade.
There are people who unironically use mods that triple the inventory spaces of bags. Think about that.Also how long has this server been going, is there even any surface copper left?
what's wrong with Africa?
>>279997This particular server has probably been on for 4-5 weeks now. There's plenty of surface copper around where I live, about 900 blocks north. Most people seemed to have moved 10k up north so there's plenty of stuff to grab 500+ blocks away from spawn.
>>279997I'm convinced surface copper, flint, stones, etc regenerate like grass, I keep finding them near areas I've picked clean at one point or anotherSubterranean resources are an entirely different story. I've cleaned out more ore veins personally than I care to admit and I'm not even the wealthiest to my knowledge.
>>280036>>280015I know we joke about the south being Africa, but sometimes I wonder if it's like Alexander's take on Afghanistan, it's all just cursed earth
>>270794thoughts on floating islands?
>>279735Good post>>279732I recommend playing a single player world until you get into the copper age to get a good understanding of the game. There are a lot of strats you can pick up on to survive. Survival in multiplayer is a bit different from single player thought since food rots when you're offline, seasons are longer, and trade/jobs are available.
why are Souf fucks so afraid of winter?
>>280326not afraid friend, winter is just a bit boring once you've survived it once.
>>280339And eternal summer isn't boring?
>>280341You can actually do shit during summer though.Freezing your ass off for a full 24 hours of gameplay meaning you have to have 2000 tonnes of firewood is horse shit.
>>279769Aw gonna miss you dude. You should play more, there's a ton of other stuff to do
>>280020>4-5weeksNigga this server has been around since January
>>280349I started playing like a week after the new IP. I had no idea if the world was reset or not. But I didn't realize over a month has gone by since then, golly.
Are you listening to the vs soundtrack right now? If not, what is wrong with you?
>>280378Because it's not as good as the minecraft soundtrack.
>>280381u wot m8
>>280346sounds like someone has never been through a Norf winter. Really the only thing you can't do is farm, everything else is still on the table, and it takes all of 10 seconds to heat up, so not even a full log at-temperature
har har me norfuck. hur dur easy farms bad, wolf good (ouchy i died again)soufingers use sad farms and windmills to do work. stupid never survive cold, don't even have to destroy forest to live
>>280399never played this game before in my life but sounds like you're literally just bragging about playing a game on easy mode
>>280403>never played game>"I THINK"stfu newfag
>>280410wow now you've really won me over to your side, turns out southerners are hardcore players after all
>>280403You're absolutely right and >>280410 is just buttblasted
I intentionally don't rotate carrots crops when i replant them
BLM? Of courseOn larp democrat building? NaturallyDoing it again? Already ahead of youstay toasty
You will never understand
>>270794New thread >>280452
>>280426Not carrot, but your a retard. He probably doesn't need them, your just gimping people like yourself who need to harvest those crops.