shit thread. no thanks

>>1011281
Everquest

Is P99 Green worth starting now? I have a lot of free time coming up and I'm feeling nostalgic.

>>1011319
just play on project quarm in a couple of months instead

>>1011357
project what

How are the Al'kabor chads doing?

>>1011239
The social aspect of this game is the most important part. If you don’t have friends playing with you or you end up disliking the people you play with regularly, you’re going to have a bad time. The game itself is just cookie clicker with a chat feature and a little more gameplay involved. You kill to kill higher level shit so you can get better items to kill shit so you can get better items to kill shit until eventually your gear is about as good as it gets and you realize there’s literally nothing to do, but stand around and wait for the next expansion to reset everything.

>>1011535
Yes, playing MMOs by yourself is pretty dumb

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>>1011535
>people were already saying this 20+ years ago
>its only gotten worse with time as people grow more and more autistic
Feels pretty damn bad.

>>1011535
I always enjoy playing MMOs alone to see how well I can handle content designed for multiple people by myself. Or other assorted special limitations.

>project quarm is unironically going to have 9 month long expansions
they think they do, but they dont

>>1014200
>having to wait two and halfish years to play a Beastlord that isn't a boxxing/dead/TLP server

Geez, I'm not feeling so good now.

>>1014363
i hear you fellow bst enjoyer

>>1011535
>The social aspect of this game is the most important part.
This is why EQ will never be worth playing again. The internet and society in general was a different beast back then. You generally had more well-adjusted and better behaved people and a huge cost of entry on top of it.

oakwynd. I have about 1 or 2 weeks experience with EQ and I want a class that remains relatively average throughout all the expansions. what do I play?
so far I’m thinking rogue and wizard but that’s more because I like those classes in games I don’t know how they actually are

>>1018729
Soloing as a rogue is hell compared to a wizzy and I imagine anywhere you play EQ today is going to be low population. Perhaps someone who still plays can chime in.

>>1018766
from what I have found so far the population is great, parties everywhere in cb/unrest/all the popular grouping spots so I ain’t worried about that
you get bonuses for leveling alts as expacs release so everyone’s doing it

>>1018729
>>1018805
you will see a great drop in population by the time planes of power rolls around. im not certain how good rogues and wizards are in gates of discord and beyond but you should absolutely play the fantasy you like as it makes the game much more enjoyable.
as the other anon mentioned, rogue will struggle to do anything alone. both classes are monsters of dps but they are also bottlenecked by the iq of your tank. a safer option would be to play something like mage or necro but i can't say for sure if you'll like their playstyles. monk is an option too if you enjoy pulling, otherwise dont touch it.

>>1011535
its combat is a lot better than it's given credit for, because most players do nothing but grind on trash.
It's not good enough to be worth the hundreds of thousands of hours that you're expected to invest, but it's not as bad as people say.

>>1019242
a big part of that is playing any class with spells. id probably kill myself playing warrior or rogue for extended periods of time. monk too but at least they are pullers which is the most active thing you can do in the game

>>1018729
You should play a class that suits a playstyle you like.
Rogues start off bad but keep slowly getting better every exp until top tier. Wizards stay average throughout.
Some other options:
Mage and Necro start off OP the first expansions and then stay average after. Shamans, Rangers and Paladins are also average throught the expansions.

>>1020164
Mages may be better for solo play but they're so boring with their puny nukes and shitty damage shields. There's nothing more emasculating than playing a mage while a big dick gnome wizzy drops comets on niggas next to you.

>quarm is not only going allow ShowEQ, but actually encourages its use and using it will be the norm
PoP-bros I don't feel so good...

>>1023701
whats showEQ and why is this a problem?

>>1023846
since you can't be bothered to use google, its nothing. just play game and go back to sleep

>>1023932
so you're just full of shit, got it

>>1023701
Do you seriously think people aren't using showeq on p99 too?

>>1024451
obviously people are using it on p99, but you would have to be an actual lobotomite to believe that something that is happening vs something that is encouraged are even remotely comparable. Also it doesn't matter anyway since showeq doesnt actually exist and its something I made up like this guy said >>1024261

>>1024494
>encouraged
You keep saying that, but do you have any proof?

>>1024573
Yeah, go to the quarm thread on the p1999 forums you fucking retard. But if you really want to see it heavy handed join their discord. On their discord you can even hear about all of the other showeq derived goodies that are also going to be allowed on quarm. I don’t even know why you are pretending to care anyway, it’s not like it’s going to affect whether or not you play. You just want to try to convince yourself that it isn’t happening, gl with that. Like I said showeq is fake anyway I made it up it doesn’t exist. Enjoy quarm

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>>1024610
Yeah dude it sounds like the guys running the show on Quarm are definitely encouraging people to use ShowEQ.

>>1024968
go read Secrets wishywashy ass replies about showeq in the p1999 thread that he posted a few hours ago

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>>1024973
Sounds like he is planning on enforcing anti-cheat to a similar level as p99. It will be interesting to see how that pans out.

>>1025006
I am more cautiously optimistic after reading todays posts, but they still leave too much grey area (if it’s blatant, if it’s an issue, if it causes problems, we aren’t going to actively check for it, our stance isn’t solidified) instead of just saying hardline, if you use it you’re banned, period. Unfortunately selective enforcement is always going to exist which is a huge issue on p99 but maybe it won’t be as bad on quarm who knows.

i still have no idea why showeq matters. did you really expect to stand a chance against poopsocking autists camping the named you want otherwise?

>project quarm still in "beta"
honestly though what are they waiting on? the game is over 20 years old. what is there to test?

>>1025581
its not that simple with time locked content, it has to be reimplemented in the titanium client. Also the TAKP source code that quarm is based off of hasn't even been public for that long

>>1025655
>its not that simple with time locked content
why not? they have NINE MONTHS in-between expansions which gives them plenty of time to get those ready. youre telling me they dont already have at least classic era ready to roll?
>it has to be reimplemented in the titanium client
its not the titanium client, though.

>>1025656
I've been playing p99 for so long I forgot non-titanium clients exist. Either way, the TAKP source code that quarm is based on was only made available very recently. There are many changes that the team wants to make to the game that have to be implemented that affect all time periods including classic. It probably not about classic specifically not being ready, but rather just their overarching changes to the game in general. In fact I would be willing to bet that their current release time is too ambitious based on the current state of the beta unless they have people working on it full-time. So it isn't being held up by the stuff that is already 20 years old, but rather the stuff they are trying to implement, test, and fix that isn't 20 years old.

>>1018261
I wanna go back.

>>1011535
I wish more MMOs were like this. I miss grinding mobs while talking with people, maybe RPing and shit. I tried playing FF14 and I felt that the MMO social aspect had nothing going for it. You can literally auto group, the gameplay is intense enough that you don't have any time to type in chat, so nobody even talks to each other except maybe a hello. You just open up the menu, click group, teleport to dungeon, run through, leave, teleport to important NPCs to learn skills or sell, then rinse and repeat. The open world is mainly just optional, even walking around town is optional. I never once needed to talk to another player, and when I looked at the guilds page it was just people inviting to ERP or selling feet pics. I don't understand what anybody gets out of this shit, it's just sad.

>>1027738
Modern MMOs are designed ass backwards. The gameplay is intense yet requires no communication, most of the time it doesn't even require a party. They designed away all the parts that made the genre what it was.

Imagine being mad that you have to actually play a video game. You know VRChat exists right? Or god forbid you meet people irl if you want to just “hang out”

im just mad project quarm is having NINE month long expansions. do these guys really think anyone wants to sit in classic and velious era for longer than 3? at least kunark and luclin have retarded amounts of grinding to maybe warrant 9 months

>>1028000
I'm going to play a SSF Paladin and SK in tandem so I won't be starved for grinds, that's for sure.

>join quarm's discord to check it out
>owner of the project has pronouns listed as she/them
lmao enjoy your tranny server

>>1029825
secrets is married and a huge troll. its still poor taste but the guy is far from being considered a tranny

what about ever quest 2?

>>1030520
What about it? The only playable version of it is dogshit daybreak slop. There are people attempting to make a private server emu for it but that is still years away.

>>1030543
why is it slop?

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>>1011239
>30 players online
Dead game

>>1030666
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>account sharing confirmed ok on quarm
Unfortunate, enjoy your perma camps locked down by one guild forever.

>>1031151
its everquest without any instancing so such was inevitable

>>1030782
>PvE
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You do know that there is very little actual pvp on red because 80% of the pop is in 1 guild right? It’s unironically more casual than green/blue.

>>1011535
>>1027738
>>1027805
It's honestly kind of baffling that nobody has really tried to make a new mmo where grouping matters.
MMOs are in such a weird spot right now; if you can't solo then a game will die because you could easily end up in a situation where there are 50 warriors and no healers, or 17 healers and no tanks, or some other combination where you have 30 people in your level range sitting around with their dicks out doing nothing because they don't have the right puzzle pieces to form a functional party.
but likewise, if a game is too far in the direction of soloing, then there's no reason to interact with people at all.

the worst part is that things like autogroup aren't even the main problem, it's almost entirely people being incapable of socializing. or worse, the people that you do socialize with are fucktards that you can't stand being around, so you stop playing the game because they actively suck the fun out of it (Which is the experience a lot of people have on private servers in particular). some games go as far as making classes be nothing more than a cosmetic choice by homogenizing their toolkits, with every class having their AoE nukes, single-target boss killing ability, some flavor of support if you're lucky, etc. etc.

>>1034881
I think finding a balance something like old Ragnarok Online would be great. The game has a huge variety of monsters and they have various AI, stats, elements, xp and job xp variance. On top of that the xp scaling worked such that you didn't really care that much about your level vs monster level but only that you could kill said monster efficiently. This led to interesting soloing options for different classes and you could even gear up to do specific farms. Of course partying was pretty much always more efficient because with a party you could kill more difficult monsters that gave proportionally more xp. It was a system that allowed soloing but incentivized partying.

I think the dumbing down of classes in many games has pretty much killed the various styles of soloing mentioned above. Everyone kills the same mobs and does the same quests for xp on their journey to level cap. There's almost no variance.

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>>1034881
i haven't checked in on pantheon in a year or two but if it ever comes out its supposed to be grouping focused

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Fuck EQ and P1999
https://shardsofdalaya.com/
>Shards of Dalaya (SoD) is a community driven emulated Everquest server which focuses on creating an experience similar to Everquest Live while providing new content, experiences and adventures. We have taken the best parts of Everquest and integrated them with entirely new lore and content. Over our ten years of development, we have hand made thousands of quests, NPCs, books, zones and pretty much every other part of our game. Further, Shards of Dalaya is absolutely free, and is run entirely by a passionate volunteer staff with support from the playerbase.

>We have done our best to keep the danger and challenge of the original Everquest while eliminating some of the hassles and tedium inherent in first generation MMORPGs. We have large epic raids, but we've slimmed them down to 18 players to make everyone absolutely vital to the raid instead of just another cog in a machine. Dungeons are there, full with nice loot, frogloks and challenging group content. We have ~170 zones with some 19000+ NPCs and 17000+ items, all created by our own developers. New content is constantly being created and implemented both by our staff and with the participation of our player community. Shards is essentially an entirely new game in the EQ client.

>>1034916
on paper it's a nice idea but in practice these are always full of "totally original donut steel not a self insert weeb fantasy" tier content

>>1034982
??? it's really not

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>>1034916
Alright, anon, you get one chance to redpill us on this, do speak about this server.

>>1034916
>multibox allowed, botting allowed
Nobody cares

>rmt discussion shut down IMMEDIATELY on discord
Shitbox confirmed, its gonna be an rmt-ridden shithole just like p99

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>play everquest
>become officer because actual officers dont show up and im the only one willing to lead the cattle when this happens
>autists bitches about loot
>other autists holds the raid up being late
>decide to theme discord and loot tracker around a first grade class room
>loot is now called juiceboxes
>waiting for late people is now called nappy time
>officer channel is now called principals office
>the guild hall theme is a class room

All of the Project Quarm doomposting is hilarious.

>>1035406
It’s going to be the same as every other eqemu server, whether or not that is considered doomposting is subjective.

>>1034916
>SoD
LMAO nice dead server shill

>quarm is allowing you to have a mule account for the bazaar
bros...the dream is dead... not like this....

>>1035770
its already dead on arrival by virtue of having no instanced raids

>>1036119
>no instanced raids
big oof this ain't it chief!

>>1031534
>Thing i don't like
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>>1035397
it's amazing how adults suddenly become incapable of civil cooperation when it comes to video games

>>1029875
not the same guy, but I take it you have never actually spoken to Secrets, then

Its September and im getting into my late summer/early autumn phase where i reflect on the past and play many MMOs.

>>1039714
Okay bro, keep us posted.

>>1039714
no idea why they wont release quarm already. 9 month long patches are long enough

>>1040250
>secrets is making us wait a few weeks for launch
Quarm sisters... it's over....how could this have happened?

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>>1039714
>weather reaches a certain point
>"yep, time to grind orcs for a week straight"
Autumn? More like autism.

>>1040765
September is just a vibe. Also personal stuff and generally just how it is yknow.

>>1040550
the point is it should have been released back in august

>>1041511
It's okay hun when you make your own Everquest server you can release it whenever you want and I promise I'll play with you :)

hope that helps

Don't play EQ, it'll drain your sanity. You've been warned.

>>1041742
level 4 monk in qeynos, my mental stability is being tested.

>secrets wrote a whole paragraph about how characters feeling like game pieces was bad for the game and took away from the experience
>of course account sharing is allowed, why wouldn’t it be? someone has to play all these cleric guild bots
Curious

>>1011239
Does anyone actually play this primitive horseshit? I remember seeing a guy play this back in 2001 and being so fucking jealous he had money and could play an MMO.

>>1043163
Evidently people do. Actually quite a few.

Lots of people play many games (most of it awful goyslop and gacha trash on /vg/)

>>1043165
Yeah but Everquest is the most primitive of MMOs, being one of the first if not the first major MMO. I'd rather play some shit like Final Fantasy Online than even consider trying EQ in Current Year.

>>1043168
Well obviously they are different games. One is for faggots who like final fantasy and one is for faggots who like everquest. MMOs are all gay anyways and based on whether you like tranime or pretending to be an elf.

>>1043154
Oh man this changes everything. Damn........

>>1042842
>hit level 5, no one around, decide to look up if there's a common lowbie area
>"go to Eastern Commons"
>die to orcs who beat the shit out of me in high pass

Well, that's a walk tonight, i don't know if i can retrive my body before i get owned unless someone's killing everything in the zone. It may be easier to regear from scratch. (i'm a monk, i hope to god my fists can kill skeletrons)

>>1043453
>"go to Eastern Commons"
Terrible advice, as a Qeynos Monk you should be farming gnoll fangs in Blackburrow. You can turn them in to Captain Tillin for crazy XP.
Information on the Gnoll Fang quest i'm talking about:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Moonstones

>>1043628
i know about gnolls, part of it is just i want to see other people, right now i'm on eq99 and maybe i've seen 10 people who weren't booking it fast past in the distance.

what are you guys gonna box on quarm? im thinking a cleric just for general ac buffs and rezzing but a druid could be useful too.
>b-b-but thats against the rules
lol

>>1043959
I couldn’t imagine boxing anything other than a druid, bonus points if your main is a caster class since druids are an exceptional duo for casters anyway.

>>1044016
>>1043959
Wizard + Druid is where it's at. A little boring but hey, that's EQ for ya.

>>1043959
I'm going to play an SSF Paladin and SK one at a time and keeping both of them within a level of each other.
I like playing MMOs solo, the added challenge makes it a lot more exciting, and makes your accomplishments feel more earned.

>>1044146
>paladin solo
>in classic era
you sure about that? youre going to be sitting a lot

>>1044161
I eat pain

>>1043168
Almost all MMORPGs that are still live play nothing like the classic ones including the updated versions of those classic ones. That's the general appeal of private servers. EQ has its own unique flavor on top of that. FFXI can be played on Horizon and it's a cool classic experience but it's not much easier to get into compared to P99.

>>1011239
Just bought this and created. still in intro area!
hero name thesightles

eq is saved brehs

https://wccftech.com/everquest-3-tentatively-imagined-as-a-hardcore-mmo-due-in-2028-new-h1z1-mechwarrior-games-also-in-the-works/

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>>1045340
>bought

>project quarm is enabling gm commands
aaaaa it's all over Secrets has betrayed us. Time to go back to p99 for ten more years.

0-Barbarian
1-Dwarf
2-Erudite
3-Gnome
4-Half Elf
5-Halfling
6-High Elf/Wood Elf
7-Human
8-Iksar
9-Ogre/Troll

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>mutt elf
Well i did dark elf most recently but i will roll with it.

1-2 Bard
3-4 Druid
5-6 Paladin
7-8 Ranger
9-0 Rogue
digits - Warrior

odd - female
even - male

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>male half elf druid
>literally the lowest widsom imaginable
>not even the sexy female model
fug

>look for random advice
>first result is a forum archive from 2003
epic, here we go then

https://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/
thank Tunare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFXUYl2ljqI
epic x2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4AfHlUnTRE
at least post a good one if you are going to post ancient meme videos

>>1045371
Based

>>1031534
EQ pvp is about as bad as it gets

>>1031534
What is actually the point of PVP in mmos with no slasher mechanics?

iksar guys are pretty hot i can't lie

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>>1047453
>cold-blooded murderous lizard niggers hated by everyone across the globe
>"damn he cute, look at that fat tail."
Anon, no.

>>1047733
hey man i like what i like

>>1011281
kill yourself

tried to get into this treehouse starting area thing but i just cant be arsed

cant kill faeries
cant kill orcs
whats the point

neverquest

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So I've never played actual classic, just kunark and beyond. Was thinking of doing a monk on quarm... any advice for starting a monk on a new server? What weapons should a monk be going for in classic? Do you basically just use fists?

>>1051228
i just made a warrior cat. ill fren you. what be ur user

>>1011239
>Less than 100 players in Project 1999
Are /v/ players playing updated EQ?

>>1051708
If you checked this morning its probably the least active time

Any of you guys interested in making a guild, either on p99 Green or Quarm?
Might make the grind a little more tolerable if we all had some bros we could reliably group up with and shoot the shit with.

>>1045622
>camera is still broken
its dead on arrival anyways

>hemorrhoid just got banded, desk has been converted to standed
I'm rolling an Ogre Shaman on Project Quarm. Was thinking gnome mage as an alt but research sounds fucking horrible early era. Hopefully we get at least 600+ people on Sunday and I can get alts 61+ for most classes before Secrets an heros.
Anyone know what the leveling path for non-retards who won't be stuck fighting over a single spawn in the newbie zone will be? Is mail running nerfed? Evil has shit EXP quests IIRC (fangs, bonechips, crushbone belts/pads, splitpaw scrolls are good races only?). I never played classic and only started playing Live in Kunark. I played the shit out of P99 but it was mostly nerfed there.

I guess the strat after that is to get into a dungeon group ASAP, save for spells/banded, and just level until I can camp a guise/manastone? The TAKP wiki and allaclone site have no quest information and are barebones as fuck so I don't know what I should go out of my way to look for on the grind.

>>1052617
calm the fuck down and try to enjoy the ride instead of optimizing the fun out of it

Any no lifers going to play qwarm?
Need some schizo elves

>>1052617
servers gonna lose a lot of people because secrets couldnt be bothered to fix something as basic as the camera bug. people's copium of "its not that bad..." will run out once they actually start playing for hours at a time

>>1053696
I think a lot of people are just going to suck it down because they promised the Evolution client imminently with the p99 camera. I think releasing on this client was a mistake instead of delaying until Christmas, but most people are interested in Luclin-POP era and are skipping launch entirely. I can't see myself being entertained by classic for 9 (!) months other than leveling alts and farming cash that will be overcamped. Kunark is where a lot of my favorite content starts coming in so as long as it is fixed by then...
First person works 100% for now and will be good enough for casual grouping, unless you are a sweaty enchanter soloing on a knifes edge and really need it.

Anyone played a wizard in classic? I know they get more love in luclin/pop. Was thinking of going wiz since they are keeping pop wiz crits in for classic on quarm.

Also what are the chances of a name change/ban if I make a erudite wiz named negrodamus?

>>1053732
>hmm someone has drawn a line
>let me get as close to possible while avoiding the outcome I can clearly foresee
He covered that in stream today using Erudite kangshit as an example of retards asking for a ban. If you have to ask then don't cry when you know what's coming.

>>1053739

What can you expect from a server hosted by a discord tranny I guess. Secrets will never be a female.

>>1053712
9 month periods in-between expansions is way too long and people are delusional if they think they wont be bored in less than half that time. i can understand for maybe kunark or luclin since theres a lot to grind(10 new levels, epic weapons, aa's, contested drops to key into the hardest raid, etc) but not classic and velious where the former is all leveling content and the latter is all raid content.
>just play first person mode
lol
lmao even

>>1053712
I know for myself I have no interest in starting over until I can make my BST, the only question is whether or not a roll a character earlier to farm plat for it. Going through the classic timeline is such a big miss when people are already sick of p99. For almost 3 years no less. What in the actual fuck was quarm thinking.

project quarm hype

I plan on playing SK, just going to enjoy the ride to 30 then get my dream childhood items like guise, jboots, rubi bp, and a mana stone.
Then i'll either make a shaman or ranger and try to get 1 more guise before classic items go away but if I miss out on my alt I won't care, not too interested going above 30 this early so I'll just chill after that and do random dumb stuff like max out good faction rep as a ogre.

>>1053712
I don't get all this client stuff, why is quarm even using some mac based client?

What are some EQ noob friendly classes? I played a little tiny bit on P99 but basically I have no clue.

>>1054349
magician is braindead easy. it's like leveling a wow warlock. you get carried by your pet

>>1054349
mage and necro because strong pet classes, the latter is king of soloing. shadowknight is the easiest tank to play. cleric is the easiest healer to play. most classes are fairly simple to get into and learn so you should play something you think is cool.
the only thing in eq with a high skill floor is pulling because you're expected to know how each camp works so you dont wipe your group which comes with experience.

>>1054369
>>1054406
Necro might be more for me than mage. Shadowknight would be cool but I think a clueless tank wouldn't be fun for the people who make the mistake of playing with me.

What classes are usually expected to do pulling? Should I avoid those?

What classes and races are even available at Quarm launch? The information about this server seems to be scattered all about the discord.

>>1054410
>Necro might be more for me than mage
necro is a evil class you will be kos in most of the cities. it sucks if you are a clueless noob
>What classes are usually expected to do pulling?
druids and enchanters. and no don't play a puller if you are a noob

>>1054410
>Shadowknight would be cool but I think a clueless tank wouldn't be fun
well you learn by doing and people are always gonna want tanks. as long as you know what youre getting yourself into then its fine.
>What classes are usually expected to do pulling? Should I avoid those?
tanks, monks or bards typically but any class can be a puller. enchanters, necros and even clerics are underrated pullers but theres a 99% chance youll never be asked to when playing one.
>What classes and races are even available at Quarm launch?
everything thats on p99 except for iksar and beastlords which come out in kunark and luclin respectively

>>1054427
>it sucks if you are a clueless noob
I see..

>>1054429
>everything thats on p99 except for iksar and beastlords which come out in kunark and luclin respectively
Thanks.

Will I be able to find parties if I play rogue or ranger?

>>1054450
>Will I be able to find parties if I play rogue or ranger?
yes, if you play rogue. probably not as a ranger unless the group desperately needs a puller. ranger is the opposite of noob friendly since its the worst class in the game until luclin.

Rogues are a bastard child in classic due to NO EPIC and shit 1h pierce itemization for groups.

Anyone playing?

>mail quest already nerfed
Let the ladder-pulling begin, we are in a full blown horizon situation

>>1054659
nobody lol. this launch is an absolute mess

>>1054683
I'm only a level 3 shaman with my level 1 spells and no bags after 3 hours of newbie yard bullshit. I should have rolled my mage alt and got some cash. Such bullshit he should have rolled the cash back.

is there a new server or something?

>>1054659
>>1054685
30-70 players according to Project 1999's numbers

>>1054718
Quarm was at 1800 but the server keeps crashing so Secrets is rewriting some netcode.

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>>1054719
>PvE

>>1054723
>red faggot
theres like 30 people tops who unironically enjoy EQ pvp and they are all mentally ill

at least play UO pvp or something you dumbfuck