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Issue #128 - A Whole New Meta Edition

>Official Site and Discord
https://www.marvelsnap.com/
https://discord.com/invite/97HFh4BXe8

>Basics (Tutorial and Collection Progression)
https://www.marvelsnap.com/howtoplay
https://outof.cards/marvel-snap/guides/256-how-progression-works-in-marvel-snap/

>Collection Tracker
https://marvelsnapzone.com/collection/

>Resources
https://snap.fan/decks/meta/
https://marvelsnap.pro/meta/
https://marvelsnapzone.com/metagame/
https://twitter.com/SnapDecks

>FAQ
>What is Marvel Snap?
The newest GOTY CCG from the creators of Hearthstone. A deck is 12 card singleton. Players play 6 simultaneous turns to 3 lanes. Winning 2 lanes wins the match. Matches are played for ladder ranks (cosmic cubes) and players can SNAP once per match to double the stakes (max 8 cubes).
>What is a card series?
Cards unlock in a random order, but specific cards are unlocked within specific collection level (CL) ranges: Series 1 cards (CL 18-214), Series 2 (222-474), and Series 3 (474+). Series 4 (Rare) and 5 (Super Rare) drop at 474+ with low chance.
>How can I increase my CL faster?
Upgrade every card you get to green rarity (frame break) ASAP. Spend the rest of your credits how you like.
>When should I snap?
https://marvelsnapzone.com/the-ultimate-snapping-strategy-guide-for-marvel-snap/
>Whose cards reveal first?
The player with the most power on the board (their name will glow)
>What should I spend my gold on?
Variants and bundles with tokens. Mission refreshes.
>How do I recognize a bot?
https://marvelsnapzone.com/bots-in-marvel-snap-a-comprehensive-guide/
>Can I get season passes and gold cheaper?
https://pay.nvsgames.com/Topup/262304/ph-en

>Comic Recs
https://comraderecs.tumblr.com/post/18865607172/marvel-comic-recommendations

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MY STATURE INVESTMENT
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MY PORTFOLIO
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Meta has turned to shit. It's all really harsh control decks that spam your lanes and negative them. Pay 50 bucks per new card or stpp trying to play is becoming the standard for the game now.
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Nebula make ya Seethe?
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The way they write it is so faggy too
>we've decided Black Bolt's day in the sun is over
>we're making it now to ensure we see this deck fall off it's lofty perch
A relatively f2p friendly deck? (3 pool 4s)
NOPE CAN'T HAVE THAT ALL FUCK ALL YOU POORFAGS LMAO
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Re-update:

Black Bolt
[Old] 5/8 - On Reveal: Your opponent must discard the lowest-Cost card in their hand.
[New] 5/7 - On Reveal: Your opponent must discard the lowest-Cost card in their hand.

Stature
[Old] 5/7 - Costs 1 if your opponent discarded a card from their hand this game.
[New] 5/6 - Costs 1 if your opponent discarded a card from their hand this game.

Negasonic Teenage Warhead
[Old] 3/4 - After ANY card is played here, destroy this card AND that card.
[New] 3/5 - After ANY card is played here, destroy this card AND that card.

Invisible Woman
[Old] 2/2 - Ongoing: Cards you play here are not revealed until the game ends.
[New] 2/3 - Ongoing: Cards you play here are not revealed until the game ends.

As of today, we’ve temporarily removed the following three locations from the game:
- Plunder Castle
- Milano
- Sandbar
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>>431203291
>deck has winrates comparable to the most powerful deck in the history of the game
>"nooo don't nerf it because..just don't ok???"
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They paid for Darkhawk's sins
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>>431203459
I taught they were gonna nerf spoodermane or something galactus adjacent not gut the whole stature shell, weird nerf desu
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>>431203715
Yes? Because that deck wasn't nearly as good? It just so happens the meta is in a good place right now, but even so there will always be a deck that rises above the rest?
But that's fine because that deck wasn't as oppressively unbearable as some of the others in the past?
So nerfing both cards is fucking retarded?????
Like why the fuck would you nerf both black bolt and stature when black bolts sole purpose is to get stature to 1 cost otherwise he's garbage and nobody would play him?????????????
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>>431203291
in what world is 3 pool 4's budget, also the best version runs jeff the crybaby too
like the only more expensive deck I can think of is galacuck and maybe optimized master mold lol
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>>431203459
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>>431203947
>Because that deck wasn't nearly as good?
It was clearly that good relative to the current meta
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>>431203894
I'm so mad I literally JUST bought her.
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Guys I can't stop masturbating every time I get Gamma Lab as a location when I have females in my deck. It's just so fucking hot to think about an attractive woman like Wasp just walking along going about her day, only to be hit by gamma radiation and turned into the fucking Hulk. She doesn't even get to be She-Hulk, the location literally forces her to grow a penis and turn into a man. Her breasts? Gone. Her womb? Gone. God forbid she was pregnant at the time. Her whole life, forever upended. Everything she knows, destroyed. And then Shang Chi comes along and just fucking socks her in the face, as if her day wasn't bad enough already. God it's just so fucking hot anons, I will throw games just to play women into that location and watch them be horrifically transformed by it.
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>he bought a series 4 card
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>>431204083
it was good like two weeks ago, the wave change turned it's biggest strength upside down
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>>431204083
No it wasn't dumbass. There's a difference.
A deck can be good but still not be oppressive. Nobody fucking liked Shuri meta or prenerf Zabu because those decks were retarded and impossible to beat.
Stature is good but not impossible to beat and the matchup isn't fucking annoying.
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>>431204229
u gonna be happy man once spider pig hops in the game.
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>>431204336
>No it wasn't
Yes it was
They literally said so
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>>431204405
The devs don't actually play this game they just look at stats and even then they read the stats wrong.
A deck can have a good winrate and the meta still be healthy with that deck existing. Which was the case here, this is just killing an entire deck which is actually worse for the meta since there are less playable decks now.
Stature existing didn't invalidate other decks in the same way Shuri did.
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>they nerfed stature AND BLACK BOLT and the deck isn't even a month old
>meanwhile shuri was going strong for months and so is galactus
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>>431205025
Fewer
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>>431205105
There was no Over The Ass back then, they would have made Shuri 4-1 when she became a problem.
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Kek at them removing 2 of the newest locations.

I feel like they barely even add new locations anymore... and each time they do they are shit and get removed lol.

How fucking hard is it to make fun/neutral locations?
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>>431205025
This is all cope
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>>431205870
I'm 100% right.
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>>431206204
You can't be 100% right because you have no idea what data they're even looking at
You're coping hard
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>>431205837
They add locations regularly. We just had Fogwell's Gym which was actually a pretty good location to feature since it was basically a double booster weekend and now it's just a neutral location.
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>>431206365
You know you can read the patch notes? And I'm those notes they say why they make the changes they make.
Black Bolt and Stature were nerfed because their cube rate was high. But they even acknowledge that the Wave change fucked the deck into being not as good anymore, so this is a retarded change to hit both at the same time.
If just Stature was nerfed you could maybe still play the deck, bit hitting Black Bolt too means you don't put out enough power anymore.
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>>431206365
we know it's true when we had a dev get interviewed by dera looked at the shuri data and straight up said "red skull is the problem". the shuri debacle going for months is when everyone knew they don't know how to interpret their data.
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>>431207269
Ok, please describe what data they're looking at and how they're interpreting it then
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>straight up getting rid of those trash "cant do x" locations
Fucking finally
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>>431205837
>When you play a card here, you get -1 energy next turn
>The player with more cards here has +1 max energy
>After turn 4, double the power of cards in this location
>Whoever is winning this location gets -2 to the other locations
>After turn 4, inflict -1 to every card here
>This turn, each card played here gets +2 power
>Add Deadpool to each player's hand
>When a player fills this location, change it into Death's Domain
>3-Cost cards here have +3 power
>At the start of each turn, give a card in each player's hand -1 cost
>Each turn, you can move one card to this location
>All location effects are disabled on turn 6
>You can't play cards here this turn
>After turn 5, fill the losing player's side with rocks
>You can only play here on even turns
Here i made up a bunch of non-oppressive ones in 5 minutes.
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>>431205025
Stature losing one power I think is fine, hell she could have lost two to make her more in line with Miles but they should have kept blackbolt 8
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>>431207479
they literally describe it themselves and we know it's not very different from the tracker sites and if anything their data is less complete with how often they say "we don't have data on that. they have been explaining their reasoning and anyone can tell it's retarded. "red skull is the highest winrate card in the game" "shuri has some matchups where she's even" (not filering out mirrors and matches where shuri wasn't played)
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>>431205025
stature lowered both the play and winrate of shang chi therefore it had to go, please understand

joking aside;
I kinda agree with you in the sense that they really should look at more than data, and it's generally old data too which doesn't help ease frustration in the now
although they did finally change wave which gives me hope that they might start doing things more properly in the future, even though it's kinda weird that it came right after they fucked around with sandman
anyways stature was lame too in a way, it was just a bunch of strong cards you couldn't really counter thrown together, barring that there was no real gameplan in the deck, like I don't think the game should work like that either
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HE needs nerfs already
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>>431208252
Ok, please describe it if the information is out there?
Please quote the stats they gave us?
You talk like you know them so what are they?
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>>431208431
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>>431208252
the trick in this data economy for keaping cards broken is to play meme vertions of your op decks after you abused them for infinete. that is why I run cerbro 2 with galactus.
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>>431208549
I just don't understand why Luke doesn't hard counter him. He needs to be nerfed already or this game is gonna go down the shitter
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>>431207670
All decent locations unironically aside this
>All location effects are disabled on turn 6
I'd make that like t4 or t5
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>>431208450
were you just not around for it? everyone was talking about this shit.
https://twitter.com/KMBestMS/status/1638902392027762688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUINVjQpZVI
they were defending every decision in the wake of the shuri "nerfs" on twitter and the community was criticising their resoning based on the stats they were sharing with the community
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>>431208852
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I don't get why iron lad summons to 6 power broodlings. They should be 2 power. This card is fucking broken. Why the fuck does he have 6 fucking power himself and also have such a game winning ability?
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>>431208924
Is that it?
"She had some matchups that were 50-52%"? "Thanos has a 48% winrate vs Shuri"?
Do you think that's comprehensive in any way?
Do you realize Glenn says in a reply to that very same tweet they have data they don't share?
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>79 to 72 and on almost nothing but impossible to win retreats
Im just gonna uninstall. I hate the direction the game is going and they simply aren't nerfing the cards fast enough that are broken. The newest card is clearly too strong and it'll only get worse from here on out.
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>space throne 4 times in a row on the left side
The fuck?
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>Last turn
>I'm winning all lanes thanks to abusing luke's bar with Mjolnir and locking the middle lane with Thor, Omega Red and prof X.
>Card reveal time
>As expected he Shangs my entire right lane but then the bot drops Wanda on Luke's bar
>"3 power. It doesn't m-"
>>>>>>"The strongest card here duplicates it's power"
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The win 3 locations in a match is hard
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>>431209267
glenn was saying they don't share the data at all and that they were sharing the data because they were in damage control. which is why he was getting clowned. also look at his discord statements. When he said on the discard "nobody ever asked us to nerf the best card in the game" and it turned out he was talking about fucking sauron. a card with a tiny playrate and it's winrate was only so high because it was only ever played in the early shuri decks in the early meta. or "we don't know" when hoogland asked for data on how many people retreat against galactus.
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>>431208852
why would Luke counter Shocker/MK etc?
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>>431210181
>glenn was saying they don't share the data at all and that they were sharing the data because they were in damage control
No, that's not what he was saying
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>>431206395
huh i missed that one completely
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>>431210329
>That’s data we don’t share (I only did because the patch will shift it)
"We don't normally share data(but literally just did)
stop posting if your reading comprehension is going to be so poor,
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>>431210230
He should counter cards that gain from having cards power reduced like Abom and Hulk
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>>431210402
You missed out. If you were willing to lose some ranks, then it was a great time to throw together a shit deck full of cards you wanted variants for and get an insane amount of boosters.
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>discard nerf
>it's just blackbolt and stature
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>>431210778
>Hey @Glenn_Jones_, I don't suppose you can tell me what these matchups were?
>That’s data we don’t share
And then he refers to the exception he made by giving out the Shuri vs Thanos winrate
Completely unsurprising to see Dunning Kruger in full effect in yourself, someone who doesn't have access to the data the devs have, someone who can't even accurately interpret a conversation, STILL thinking you have everything figured out because...I'm just very smart you know??
Have some fucking self awareness
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>>431209602
I think card balance right now is actually fairly solid, the only things I definitely want nerfed are nebula and zabu, at least in relation to shang/enchantress
like I'm not sure if evolutionary kong is actually unbalanced just yet, for now I personally do not like how 1-2-3 curve he is and how his counter is a niché card
but he does highlight a very severe problem with their card acquisiton model, everyone and their mother saved for this one card so now it's all you see
this is bound to happen again and again and skew metas and therefore balance
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Is Stature actually unplayable now? Because I just bought her like two days ago.
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It doesn't take a genius to see that their nerfs are missing the mark.
Stature+Black Bolt was (marginally) too strong after the Shuri nerf. But it was far from oppressive like old Thanos or old Shuri. They hit them too hard. Also the nerf came too late, this happened three weeks ago but since then we've had Kitty Pride and HE and most importantly the Wave change. The Stature deck was good because Deathwave was a particularly strong choice in the metagame, countered Galactus, Sera decks and everything in between and generally had good match ups.
Getting waved meant very little if you could slam a 16-power Taskmaster+Stature+Miles or something similar while discarding their Death (sometimes it was She-Hulk + Taskmaster).
These things no longer exist. Then why nerf Black Bolt and Stature? She's already hit by the Wave change. They should have waited at least a week before deciding.
Galactus, Kitty Pride, Iron Lad variations and DH-Zabu have been much stronger this week (and now we have HE as well). You can see it in recent cube rates etc. In other words, the nerf came ~15 days late and various cards and decks are no longer the same or playable.
We play the game every day, we play/watch tournaments, we can see which decks are oppressive, and BB-St is nowhere near as powerful. No amount of "secret developer data" will change that, if anything it gives us an indication that they don't know what they're doing or they totally misinterpret the data.
I personally think the problem is that new cards come out, the metagame changes and by the time they interpret the data and decide what to nerf, the cards might actually no longer be a problem. There's only one way to solve this, have someone who is really good at the game and plays constantly advise them on OTA changes super-quickly. He can make an assessment much faster than it takes them to figure things out.
>>431212424
No, but the deck won't be top tier any longer.
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>>431211617
nice mental gymnastics retarded bootlicker. he didn't post the data because he didn't know it. that's why immediately after he says he'll look into it.Posting the shuri winrates is part of "data we don't share"

There was absolutely NO defending the shuri buffs which is exactly why glenn got roasted alive. He gave his reasoning which conistently only made him look worse. "shuri is an exciting deck".
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I don't think I had black bolt played against me once this year.
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I love hazmat
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>>431203053
Yes because when I use her she does nothing. Am I supposed to use her as bait in HE?
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>>431203459
>Black bolt
>Stature
Honestly hilarious that they got nerfed when in reality the things that needed to be hit are zabu/sera (stupid mana cheat shit) and shang (only reason they were played was because it dodges shang which controls too much of the meta).
Also lol @ nerfing the top deck right when HE comes out. Gotta force that new meta!
>negasonic
>invis
Meh. It won't change much but I guess irs nice.
>locations
Actually the funniest thing here. the fact that even something like sandbar which is super new got removed is basically them admitting that they made a mistake with designing locations.
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>>431205462
>forgetting red skull ota
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the fact that they could've just put shuri to 5 for like a week or two with their ota crap but didn't still makes me mad
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>>431204292
>he is waiting for DH to drop to series 3
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>>431217419
But anon red skull was the real problem!
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>""""buff"""" Invisible Woman out of Cerebro 2
FUCK OFF BRODE YOU HACK
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do you guys think there is a secret op card that people don't know about.
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>>431218486
mbaku
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>>431217501
Not that anon but next time I see dh in my rotation I am snagging. I just haven't been checking periodically enough so he's probably shown up and I missed him
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>>431218383
Just play C3 ;^)
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>>431218486
unicorn priest in 5
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>>431218383
I don't get why thats a buff. most deck playing her are playing overstated stuff. or combos. how is a +1 gonna help. I agree with you anon did wanted to nerf cerebro.
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what did they nerf c2 cause it counters HE?
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>>431218873
Why would they, nobody plays c2
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Black Bolt being viable for the first time ever and immediately getting nerfed is pretty funny even if it is a sensible decision
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>>431218873
it doesn't necessarily
the point of c2 is that you beat midrolls with your midroll, and vs HE you kinda need to highroll and get luke and a combination of draws +locations that lets you keep him and cerb away from enchantress
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>>431219660
if he was a big bad this whould not happen
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>>431219660
if he was named white bolt this would not happen
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>nerfs stature after a series drop
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>>431218486
Maria Hill
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>>431218486
Absolutely not and fuck you for asking
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>>431219660
If he was vaccinated this would not happen
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A few weeks late for the the Black Bils Stature nerf, fucking retards.
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I think HE the card can use a buff. Why would I ever play a abilityless 4/4?
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Are card game developers usually this retarded? This is, admittedly, the first card game I've spent an extended time with.
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I just noticed this is Jen Bartel. I might have to buy the pass just for that.
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>>431222773
This, make him a 4/5 SD
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Can someone post a Thanoless High Evo deck. I'm too stupid to figure this out.
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>>431223840
>>431182942
>>431182732
Then there's a very basic and strong like picrel
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>>431223194
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>>431223194
Ben Brode sure is
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>>431223194
SD is not that bad in a game design sense, they are just really slow, their biggest problem is greed, which all big card games are if you do not live in Japan
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>>431224350
Thanks Bae.
This game really needs more deck slots, I keep having to delete other decks to try out these new ones.
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>>431223194
It varies. I'd argue they all get their bad moments but you can usually tell whats a genuine mistake and what's just them being retarded (guess which SD is). The only one i felt was as bad as SD was HS ironically.
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>>431223194
Gwent completely redesigned their game after a beta with a cash shop in it and made the game no longer resemble gwent from the previous witcher games
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Hey guys. Love you all. I don't post much lately but I miss you guys and am having some fun with HE.
.t Green Goblin Guy (sorry for the attention whoring, just having a little fun with you guys!)
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>>431224620
>SD is not that bad in a game design sense
I would disagree since the core problem was that certain things shouldn't have existed in the first place (like OG Zabu). You can say they're slow like with shuri but ultimately I feel like the problem was them being slow but the fact that they actively would ignore her (despite everyone saying she's the problem) to just nerf things like red skull. The fact that they lower the rate on certain locations and now even removed some is basically admission that they don't know how to design.
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>>431224693
what's driving me insane is when I want to clear my old decks it takes me back to the end of the list after each one so I have to swipe back to the beginning again every time
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>>431225271
>The fact that they lower the rate on certain locations and now even removed some is basically admission that they don't know how to design.
this is what I mean when I say they are slow, the core game is good and they still have a long way to reach retarded power creep, the game is in a decent balanced state rn
The shuri thing was pure greed as anyone could have guessed at the time or see in hindsight
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>>431225271
it's an iterative process and they're clearly improving the game over time which is crazy in 2023
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>>431225161
It's okay. You've been overtaken by the Patriot guy and the Mysterio guy in terms of sheer autism
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>>431225734
Well what would you consider to be the core game if now the cards and locations that come out? Just the general mechanics? If so then I guess I agree though they really need to add a log to see previous actions.

>>431226319
I think you're being way too generous. The fact that it is 2023 means the quality should be high. We've seen card games succeed and fail and they should be able to see the mistakes of the past and learn from them even if this is their first card game especially when brode is in charge. Also every month there's some new bs they do. Its more like one step forward and two steps back.
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where were you when blackbolt and stature where killed?
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>>431227210
A week ago when they were already falling out of the meta? I guess work as usual.
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>>431226760
kek thanks sounds fun
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>>431227785
true I guess today was just the funerals
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Im enjoying WINNING with High Evo. But the deck itself I don't think is very fun.
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>>431229857
I'm enjoying losing with high evo so that the statistics look worse such that he doesn't get nerfed :^)
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>>431229857
He seems boring as sin
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>>431231280
What's boring about him compared to every other big bad and majority of other cards?
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>>431231815
I feel like people call decks that don't have big wombo combos boring. High Evo so far is pretty straight forward. You either go all in on negative cards or you do the ongoing/extra energy route.
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I wish I had bought Jeff instead
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HE Shocker feels like ass desu I'm taking this motherfucker out of the deck
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>>431235283
yeah an effective 1/3 is too weak on its own
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>>431235283
Thought I could finally use my lovely shocker variant but he still sucks
at least it's true to character lol
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>>431235842
Hes alright in Patriot desu
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>>431235283
shocker is for reducing hulk specifically. in the quasi shenaut HE deck.
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>>431236481
>it's another Moon Girl big power card + she Hulk to slam a bunch of shit down turn 6 deck

One of the weaknesses of snap is the limited decks and how everything is just a variation of Devil Dino from pool 2
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>>431203963
Elaborate on optimized master mold please good sir
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>>431237515
Dino reigns supreme
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https://twitter.com/Moyen_HS/status/1661393254292635648
get this shit out of the game
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>>431241676
This doesn't look very good desu
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>>431242058
>hit something stupid with iron lad
>wave on 5
>leader on 6
no bad matchups
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>>431242257
>>431241676
Also interestingly enough:
>Auto lose vs Galactus
But there's barely any in tournaments
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So is that Stature deck dead or is it still playable?
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>>431242871
he covered that. wave on the galactus lane into leader can't counter galactus like old leader
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>>431243120
*can
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>>431243120
>Gets ockted and
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>>431243294
the ock line is reatreat for every deck. the point kinda is just to pull down the galactus coutners and or biggest power sources. less shang chi means ock is able part of why the revis list can't win with shuri ock without playing galactus.
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>>431238464
master mold/ronan with iron lad, darkhawk and zabu
that would be the most expensive deck I can think of
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>>431224620
Weebs get the rope. Japan is extremely greedy to the pointnof being Jews in basically every market. They sold you unfinished games then released a complete edition 3 months later. Than tried to sell the international version with bug fixes since months after and all were full retail. And don't even get me started on their TCGs were they make cards 1 a box or even 1 an entire case and then require you to need 4 for a deck.

The ironic thing if saying Japan isn't greedy is their biggest boom in history was them all lying and giving fake loans to each other until it collapsed and Japan still hasn't recovered and has multiple generations of neets because of it.

Second dinner are shit for many many reasons but Japan isn't any better. They use these models because they make money and unless you stop whales you're going to continue to see them.
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>>431243497
I've played a ton of battle mode. You can retreat the first few for -4. Usually you win one so it's more like 7-9 hp. Turn 5 has double stakes. Then every time you snap it's 4 hp which is enormous. If you have a single line that is auto-retreat you just have to draw it three times and you win the match. Meanwhile a single snap for them can mean countersnap for 8 hp, total disaster.
I did exactly that on one of the tournaments i won, after some slow play for four rounds, they were basically forced to lose two cubes when i snapped turn 2-3 (pretty much on zero info for them), or risk at least four. After the first one-two times they are forced to stay and it's over.
In other words, if i sacrifice 3-4 hp, and then start snapping turn 3 nearly every game, are they gonna risk 4+ hp on the chance of me having electro into doc?
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>>431224620
The jap mobile TCGs I've played were way greedier than this
Like Duel Links infamously requires a fucking ridiculous amount of money to build a deck and they don't compensate you at all when they nerf it.
Shadowverse wasn't much better from what I remember
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>>431202762
so, that just happened...
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>>431244424
Duel links is basically a half gacha and SV was very generous when I played
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>>431244839
>a half gacha
you buy booster packs, calling anything that fits that a half gacha makes every single traditional tcg a half gacha lol
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>>431243497
>>431244279
Also, this doesn't take into account the typical Wave into Galactus into Spiderman.
So there's two ways you automatically lose.
It's a 95-5% if you know how to pilot Galactus in battle mode.
>Snap every time you have Electro-Doc-Galactud
>Snap every time you have Wave-Galactus-Spiderman
>Drain their hp rapidly on high stakes
You only need to not get baited into staying where you shouldn't.
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>>431244279
problem for glactus is all the decks that can can deny him an empty lane by turn 3, a lot in tournament and once such was revis's first match If galactus is already countered then ock isn't an auto retreat but for the galactus player helpful for getting a bigger win.

agaisnt leader that requires electro into ock specifically as many game will happen wher the galactus will have to hope they didn't draw leader. and the leader player can commit easily after there's no chance of an ock coming down. and after the minimum cube threshold is reached there's no harm in letting ock play out to see if he whiffs the needed cards.

>>431245110
wave spider-man also loses to leader since they can leader on the same turn as spiderman and have the point advantage.
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>>431244628
He's not that crazy desu
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>>431244628
this is what every multiplayer game's like now on youtube
they do this for nba 2k every fucking week and that game doesn't even have major changes, they just pretend some slight variation on the established build is new and all say it's good
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This is what it feels like to play thanos in 2023
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>>431245272
Everything in your post was wrong.
First of all, proper Galactus builds have Shuri Nimrod Wolverine, which this deck can't beat easily by going 20+ on two locations.
Secondly, you cannot Leader on turn 5, unless you waved on turn 4 when the Galactus player nuked your locations. Then you lose to every OTHER play if you blindly leader on 5, e.g. from a Doc Oc.
>problem for glactus is all the decks that can can deny him an empty lane by turn 3, a lot in tournament and once such was revis's first match
This sentence isn't in English.
> If galactus is already countered then ock isn't an auto retreat but for the galactus player helpful for getting a bigger win.
This doesn't make any sense at all, are you esl or drunk?
>will have to hope they didn't draw leader. and the leader player can commit easily after there's no chance of an ock coming down
Why? i specifically pointed at two ways where you beat leader.
>and after the minimum cube threshold is reached there's no harm in letting ock play out to see if he whiffs the needed cards.
So if i snap on 3, are you risking 4-8 hp on the chance doc oc whiffs?
>wave spider-man also loses to leader since they can leader on the same turn as spiderman and have the point advantage.
completely false, they typically can't unless they drew wave and leader perfectly, they had priority/played wave on the correct location, AND the opponent doesn't ock turn 5. So you risk 4 hp on something that's far, far less than 50-50, more like 20-25%.
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>>431246572
the galactus deck brought into tournaments does no play spider-man. but even if it does, galactus is always countered by playing wave in the galactus lane full stop. leader will always break parity. that's the whole point, turn 4 or 5 galactus are beat by wave. this should be obvious to you, thee's no reason not to play wave on the galctus lane when galactus is coming.

>So if i snap on 3, are you risking 4-8 hp on the chance doc oc whiffs?
no they stay when the game has gone on long enough that there is no longer benefit to retreated and it won't reduce the cubes lost.

wave -gaklactus spider-man is more of a specific combo than just wave leader. again, not that it matters because that's not the battle mode galactus deck. this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28alpWYWxRw
he mainly beat a clog deck through shuri doc ock and not galactus.
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>>431245102
Other card games don't have you grinding to unlock characters and skills for your decks. Its obviously very different from a traditional tcg.
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>>431245559
Quinjet was the only thing keeping this deck alive
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>>431247460
>galactus is always countered by playing wave in the galactus lane full stop
This is completely wrong.
which turn are you playing it? turn 4 or 5?
If you wave on turn 4, you have 25% chance or less to win the game. You need perfect draws and you lose to alternative plays like Oc.
If you wave on 5, you lose to either turn 4 octopus or turn 5 spiderman. You also lose to destroyer, they get a wolverine and a destroyer while you lose all your shit.
Are you even thinking about the stuff you're typing?
>no they stay when the game has gone on long enough that there is no longer benefit to retreated and it won't reduce the cubes lost
So you lose 4+ hit points each time. If it happens 3 times you lost.
>Irrelevant video
We aren't talking about a clog deck
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>>431245559
>be greedy as fuck with shit like leech and odin in the list
>WAHHHH WAHHH MY DRAWS ARE BRICKED
Stupid bitch
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>>431248010
>have america chavez
>play standard and challenging lockjaw deck
>get called stupid bitch
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>>431247998
if it is wave it's turn 4 galactus, everone knows as such. glactus will never have piority agaisnt a zabu deck while leader ties galactus at the absolute worst and wins if anythign else was already in that lane. as is usually the case. way more needs to go right for galactus to win. having both wave and leader is not hard, at all. if that lane isn't empty then wave doesn't even need to be in the galactus lane. a much more relyable win than relying on ock pulling down leader. the chances of winning are enough that if you don't have much to gain from retreated stayign for the ock can also give you the win.

that galactus deck folds to any bad matchup and thus isn't brought into battle mode ever. that's why revis made a list that wins with shuri taskmaster shit without any ramping even just from bad draws.
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>>431248945
>glactus will never have piority agaisnt a zabu deck while leader ties galactus at the absolute worst and wins if anythign else was already in that lane
>I play Galactus turn 4, you play?
>If you wave, then i doc oc or destroyer
>You lose

>You play Leader
>I play destroyer
>I have a wolverine and destroyer
>You have destroyer
>You lose

>empty then wave doesn't even need to be in the galactus lane
>I play wave on 3
>You answer with wave on 4
>I play octopus
>you lose

>I play electro into oc
>You lose

>you play Wave and shit while i Wolverine shuri nimrod
>you lose

>you Leader at any point
>I play Destroyer, have wolverine
>You lose
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>>431249935
at worst most of those are ties and not losses with leader. literally all jsut ad hoc arguments with your own specific galactus list assuming your opponent doesn't have shang chi. yes like revis sometimes it's better to play something other than galactus to win. then then it's not a fucking auto loss to galactus now is it? Leader conistently beats the glactus playline itself. and can still beat the alternate win conditions. "but I can do something else maybe" isn't relevant.
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>>431251202
>Leader conistently beats the glactus playline itself
it almost never does, i explained clearly enough why not.
You just repeat it without argument every time you get demolished.
>"but I can do something else maybe" isn't relevant.
It is if it reduces your win rate to 5%
You have never played Galactus in a tournament and it shows.
Leader is really bad vs Galactus, Destroyer and Spiderman wreck you.
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>>431251525
>it almost never does, i explained clearly enough why not.
yeah and you were wrong and retarded. you explicitly said that spider-man beats wave leader. That was objectively wrong. int eh worst case scenario of the lane being completely empty then leader ties the galactus and spider-man. jsut like wave leader always beating glactus on 5. Admit you made a mistake and said somethignclearly incorrect and I might consider earnestly engaging with you.

All your arguments are ad hocc nonsensical and miss the forest for the trees. Moyen has already won several tournaments with the leader list and that's why he made the posts. He's beaten galactus and that's how he knows how to win. Revis placed with glactus in tournament not using your list for a reason.
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>>431252437
>explicitly said that spider-man beats wave leader
You're completely retarded
Here's a diagram for your 90iq
Can you Leader on 5?
No-> Spiderman. I win.
Yes->Destroyer/Oc. I win.
Do i have Electro into Oc into Galactus?
I win.
It is turn 6. Can you Leader?
Yes: Destroyer, or Galactus my Nimrod and Wolverine. I win.
No: Knull etc. I win.
>Moyen has already won several tournaments with the leader list and that's why he made the posts. He's beaten galactus and that's how he knows how to win
pffffffhahahahahahahah you're funny.
That's what your (lack of) argument based on? Am empty statement with no data? Plus argument from authority? I've also won with Galactus, lists without direct counters to Galactus are hopeless, simply because i can pick and choose when and where and what to do, while they can't, they can only hope to match my plays while i drain their hp with proper snaps.
There's hardly any Galactus in tournaments for various reasons. The list you posted folds to any reasonable Galactus list 95% of the time.
>All your arguments are ad hocc nonsensical and miss the forest
The forest is that the list you posted can almost never beat a Galactus deck in battle mode. There's no way around that.
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>>431253378
you are the kid on the playground with "beats everything sword. The answer to the leader always beats spider-man argument is NOT SOMETHIGN THAT ISN'T LEADER VS SPIDER-MAN. you can win with but "but what if you dont have/but what if i have). It obviously goes both ways. and at msot making uncommon plays is only a guessing game in your favor once.
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>>431218486
omega red

average stat spread for 4 costs with no utility is 8
average stats for 4 costs with negative effects is 10
omega red is a 4 cost with 13 power if activated
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>>431254030
Why would i play spiderman if you can Leader? You're not making any sense.
There's only one possible way you can Leader on 5: if YOU waved on turn 4, while i Galactus. Then I don't need to play Spiderman, i can oc of destroyer and win.
> It obviously goes both ways.
No it doesn't you mongoloid, you only have two cards to beat me while i have 5+ and multiple play patterns to work around them
You're hopeless unless I'm retarded enough to make a terrible mistake.
>uncommon plays is only a guessing game in your favor once
I explained how i don't need to guess though. I play based on what i SEE, like if you can play Leader or not, or if you waved on 4 or not, or if i have Electro into Oc into Galactus or not. No guesses there.
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>>431254736
you said spider-man beats leader. spider-man loses to leader. Are we in agreement? no more ad hoc reasoning. it is easier to have leader than to have specifc combos.
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>>431254143
except not really because he requires you to "waste" at least 9 power on activating him
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>>431255223
No, in the list you posted there's only one way to play Leader before turn 6, so most of the time spiderman will beat leader.
Spiderman will also beat leader on turn 5 if wolverine is strong enough.
Don't forget that you spent turn 4 playing wave, so your location can be very weak as well. And if it is, spiderman can beat Leader. Galactus + Wolverine is 6-8 power. You lose if you have 3-5 there. NOTICE THE IMPORTANT PART: I HAVE A CHOICE HERE (Spidey) AND YOU DON'T.
So no, we're not in agreement, you are wrong.
> it is easier to have leader than to have specifc combos.
You need a specific combo to not lose instantly:
>Priority (or correct guess)
>Wave
>Leader
>Me not playing around all this, like a retard
You lose almost always. You're the one drowning in ad hoc reasoning.
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Don't retreat fucker, this is the only deck I have that runs 6 costs.
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>somehow keep coming up against people spamming 1 cost cards
>my killmonger is never drawn
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man fuck nebula how did this shitass card release like this
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Lol I got the funny leech variant.
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m'baku + lockjaw unironically better than you think it is. not only have I won games because of that combo, I also lost a fuckin mirror match because of a lockjaw-ed m'baku and laughed heartily

a lot of the spots are flexible in this, juggernaut seems good against the evolutionary stuff IF you can keep the board so that you flip first; no point in moving the guys after they already debuff you. in fact it just kinda helps them debuff you more.
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>>431256010
okay but how often do you have wolverine wave galactus and spider-man all drawn in order? do you not see the hypocrosy? as if the leader player can't obviously tell as well when leader wins? that's how far you have to go in your ad hoc arguments to jsutify your position.
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>>431256770
also I don't own luke cage is mostly why I am running juggernaut
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>>431256591
Nebula is fine, Kitty on the other side is busted AF
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>>431256770
This deck could use Doom
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>>431257060
nebula is absolutely not fine, basically an unconditional 1/5-7 if you play her out on turn 1, provided the dumb bitch doesn't get killmongered
kitty only gets kinda crazy with bishop and angela on the board and gets hard dicked by wave / sandman
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>>431257421
You're high. Nebula is straight trash that does nothing, gets wasped, cyclops, and thinged
If I could trade this useless trash in for another S5 I would
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>>431257421
>>431257742
Nebula is a top 3 one energy drop, she isn't trash but not OP if you learn how to play around her.
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>>431256859
>okay but how often do you have wolverine wave galactus and spider-man all drawn in order?
About as often as i have electro oc Galactus, and wolverine electro shuri nimrod Galactus, and electro oc destroyer knull etc.
There's a ton of play patterns, you don't know what's coming. But you only have wave and leader, that's it.
Are you staying if i snap on turn 2, to find out? Who's got the upper hand here? Can YOU ever confidently snap on turn 3? Even if you have Wave Leader in hand you might get oct'd or destroyer'd.
The deck will simply drain all your hp by snapping when it beats you, while you have no idea what's coming each time and if you can beat it. Are you gonna retreat every time? It's not that you can't possibly win, it's that i have all the choice of when to play the games out with increased odds and you don't. Therefore we're (almost) never in a situation of 4+ cubes where you have the upper hand, while we're constantly in situations of 4+ cubes where i have the upper hand. Unless you retreat every time i snap, which is a guaranteed loss anyway.
>that's how far you have to go in your ad hoc arguments to jsutify your position.
You should look in the mirror.
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>>431258057
No she's trash. I tried to give it another shot, but I might as well play Sunspot or HE Misty
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>>431258174
I got to infinite thanks to her, you probably didn't play good support cards for her: like Armor,Green Goblin, Polaris,Debrii, Aero etc. Also she got the same dynamic then Lizard, they both ''force'' your opponent to play on their lane and good players can capitalize on that situation.
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Nebula into cyclops is devilish.
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>>431258093
galactus being high curve often fails to draw any combo when korg and rockslide make it very likely to miss a draw. and your alternate playlines are easy to beat. tell me this you insist you always KNOW when leader is coming and like a child still refuse to acknowledge beign wrong about spider-man vs leader.

Tell me this, would you admit that doc ock pulling down aero doesn't change the fact that aero beats playing galactus? same thing with leader. If tournament players were so afraid of your specific list that always bombs out in tournament then the ZABU deck would ahve shang chi and shuri destroyer shit always loses.
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>>431258608
Wow that's a lot of work when I can just slap sunspot down and float.
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>>431259249
you realize that that drains mana you could spend on cards, at a quite inefficient rate I might add
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Cyclops needed a nerf yesterday. Wtf is this card
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>>431259010
Everything wrong once again.
>tell me this you insist you always KNOW when leader is coming and like a child still refuse to acknowledge beign wrong about spider-man vs leader.
You can play around Leader. The only way Leader beats Spiderman is the time when no reasonable player would have played Spiderman. The deck has a single way of getting Leader on turn 5.
>pulling down aero doesn't change the fact that aero beats playing galactus? same thing with leader.
Completely different with Leader, i explained in length why. Aero wrecks Galactus, Leader doesn't.
We aren't afraid about Galactus in tournaments for various reasons, the biggest being that (a) a single direct counter shits on him (Debri/Aero etc). (b) Two or more indirect counters give you a favorable match up (e.g. Polaris+Cosmo). No, Leader isn't one. (c) Because of (a) and (b), there's hardly any Galactus in tournaments.
>If tournament players were so afraid of your specific list
They aren't afraid, because of (c). I can assure you we shit ourselves when we play a deck without counters and Galactus shows up. I won a tournament that way, beating two Deathwaves that had no Aero. They had Wave, Leader AND Death, and they were hopeless. Meanwhile you're trying to argue that your Wave+Leader is enough kek.
>ZABU deck would have shang chi and shuri destroyer shit always loses
Yea but there's not room for everything. Then you lose to Patriot or Monkey or whatever. That's the thing with tournaments, the counters and amount of greediness of the deck are difficult to figure out and there's always holes in your strategy. You hope you guessed the meta correctly and you hope you get a bit lucky with matchups. Because of (c), you prefer to counters to other decks first. Of course this might change if Galactus becomes prominent in tournaments.
It is obvious that you don't have much experience with competitive play.
I have to go to bed now, i might answer more tomorrow.
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how the hell are you two still on this fucking leader thing
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>>431260565
>1 energy for 2 power is too much!
retard
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>>431259548
Still better then the enemy dumping the perfect setup there and having a brick that does nothing there
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nebula is the reason I have to run killmonger, kitty is less annoying because when I lose to kitty its the monkey and mysterio shit that piss me off more than the kitty. nebula way more toxic 1 drop
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1000 points away from 6k. Should I get HE or Thanos?
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>>431264161
Honestly I'd say Thanos. Now that HE is out and people have been fucking around with him, he's a very linear deck. While Thanos allows a lot of experimentation and different kind of decks.
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>>431264161
do you play with sound on? thanos says cool voicelines before every game and when you proc the power stone
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>>431260917
He's fucking retarded, why can he go off every turn
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Where the fuck is the hearthstone thread, why does this one show up?
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>>431264161
you can build multiple different deck types around thanos

>>431268738
no one bumped the last one when there was a surge of new threads being made on /vg/ so it died, the anon that makes new threads isn't awake
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>>431269128
Oh shit is that guy spaming threads again? We died last time cause of that.
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can I get 300 tokens with 400 gold.
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>>431271220
>>431269128
Yup the spammer is back, slower threads are getting killed. Quick someone start an autistic ass argument before the same happens to us.
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>>431268738
We have hearthstone in the OP because of Ben Brode.
tbf /hsg/ also has the word "snap" somewhere in its OP because it'll come up when I'm looking for this thread.

/hsg/ and /snap/ are bound together.
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>>431271362
On a token Tuesday maybe
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>>431260935
Nebula was busted but is hard countered by kitty and HE decks. She was amazing until the meta shifted to constant bounce and debuff spamming.
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I just noticed Iceman has 700 variants. Only 1200, which sucks ass because I'd maybe have bought a 700 but not a 1200.
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>>431273583
*doesn't have 700 variants
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FUCK YEAH BACK TO 70 AFTER DROPPING 4 RANKS A WEEK AGO

LETS GOOOOOO
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>>431274165
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
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>galactus on the shop
should I...
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>>431274665
If you don't mind literally EVERYONE hating you and wanting you dead.
Then yeah sure he's kinda fun.
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>>431274665
He's probably getting reworked next month
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>>431274665
Play wolverine t2, electro t3 and get +1.
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>>431275226
>He's probably getting reworked next month
Right. Fuck him then
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This list is pretty solid, I think. I'm just really sucks at snapping especially on infinite. Probably gonna drop Enchantress with something else since opponent's Luke only matters if you still have Abomination in hand.
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>>431274665
well, do you like people roping you because they hate you?
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>>431276223
Go with Rogue. Enchantress is only better if you're also running Zabu
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>Missed Hela Gardening
Fucking hell I'm sad now
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>>431276651
Maybe next Earth day.
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>>431278110
>implying the game will still be alive by then
Lmao
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>>431280627
anon Ive faced disappointment from every single live service game to come out
seeing how they handled the high ev fuck up and how much better the card acquisition has gotten consistently I trust this game to be good for a long long time
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>>431280627
They're making money hand over fist, it'll probably be around.
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>>431280627
Whales are making the game alive
Other cards games, like Gwent, didn't had the privilege of that
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Why do keep releasing literal who comic book characters like high evolutionary? When are we going to get real comic book characters like superman and the joker?
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>pixel rocket for mystery bundle
Thanks Ben
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>no one is running cosmo
what happen?
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>>431287478
Luke Cage is currently more important to run
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Just spent tokens on master mold
probably going to regret it if they keep adding cards like nebula and jeff that are just upgrades on older ones but I want to have as many types of deck playable as possible
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Unpin stature for iron lad?
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>>431289261
Stature is useless now. Don't even bother.
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>>431287478
I've seen darkhawk decks run it
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>>431289191
actually this sera control deck with him is pretty decent
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hows this for some bullshit boys?
feel like such a cunt playing it but damn does it close out 2 cubers no problem
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Why was my opponent able to play Abomination on 4?
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>>431292660
I like the idea. I'd steal it if I had Jeff.
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>>431293689
jeff is honestly just back up, a lot of the cards here are like daredevil and misty knight

other options I could see played in here are chavez for better odds at drawing a storm/spiderman + absorbing man combo, Kang for snap bluff wins, abomination and wasp to force out lukes and make sure your enchantress is landing, or just a classic shang chi
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Protip: The best HE deck doesn't use half of the cards. The affliction ones, specifically.
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>>431295017
That's literally 4 of the 7 cards. Then misty knight is painfully average and shocker is a worse zabu. I'm down to just shove HE and hulk into a deck though.
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>>431292660
-Enchantress, Misty Knight, Absorbing Man
+Armor, Wasp, Hulk
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Is miles still bugged with moon girl? Like if you copy miles and move a card on the same turn the copied miles doesn't get cost reduction.
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>>431295797
The only Affliction card worth using is Cyclops, just to enable Abomination.
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>>431297342
Wasp is literally a 0/3 so she's good too
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>>431297342
The thing and wasp are both overtuned at 0/3 and 4/9. Just having cyclops isn't enough to enable abom. If they have luke cage they have luke cage you just deal with it.

On another note, I think the best HE deck should have wave in it. That card is fucking busted.
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>>431297474
>>431298193
There's just too much Luke Cage around in the current meta to make it worth while. I think it's a waste to have to run anti-Luke shit. I've had way more success focusing on big stats + unspent energy with cards like She-Hulk and Magick etc. Small sample size though.
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>>431298607
It's a self correcting thing, the more people run Luke Cage, the more people will shift to energy saving versions of HE, the more people will take Luke Cage out of their deck
Wasp and Cyclops will be autoincludes in any HE deck eventually
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>>431298781
Definitely agreed on the Affliction style being more likely to be the best version down the line. Just too much Luke to justify it right now, for me.
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>HE
>HE
>galactus
>HE/thanos
>galactus
>destroybot
>HE/thanos
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>>431298607
This is what I've been running so far. There's multiple wincons so putting afflict in it doesn't matter that much.
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>>431298998
+4
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>>431287478
Low power cards you playewrly as a liability into cyclops now. And he doesn't stop hulk or abom. So he's doing almost nothing.

>>431289191
Molds pretty good against combo decks. He'll jam up their hand so they don't get to draw their pieces

>>431292660
High evo does nothing in that build. There's way stronger things lockdown cam be doing. Maximo and even ebony maw are better for locking lanes and winning them.

>>431298607
Magick is a totally fucking trap. Unless you're dependant on 6 drops you're making your list way more vulnerable by playing it. Every top deck can vomit power on the last turn so 6 and 7 are basically the same. And getting the lane stormed because your opponent knows you're not going all in fucks you so damn hard. If you can't win on 6 it's unlikely you can win on 7 with 1 more card. Death plus Krull is basically the only reason to use her. Other wise you're unlikely to be getting real value from the extra turn. You wasted your turn 5 on a weak card to get a turn 7 when you could have just played a better 5 drop and impacted the board more.
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>>431300037
Magick can give you a turn 7 of like, Hulk, She-Hulk and Abomination and maybe even another card if you're lucky. There are no other decks shitting out 45+ power on turn 7 right now with that level of versatility in where the power is placed.
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>>431289191
The problem with mold/ronan is that there's just not enough cards in the archetype yet
needs another win condition and more ways to add stuff to hand
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>>431300037
All wrong except for mold lmao
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>>431300473
also ronan being a 5 whilst skillhawk is a 4 isn't great
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>>431300192
Then you're skipping your 6 and handicapping your 5 to do that. When you could play both turns out for a similar result with say dark hawk, moon girl and 2 shehulks or mystique.
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>>431300805
>Yeah but you could be playing something else
well done mate. you're really big brains for that comment.
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>>431300897
That's the point. You're putting your game at risk of storm to do something about as powerful as you could do without it.
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>>431300995
>how can we make the best cake?
>mate just have a burger you fucking retard loooool
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>>431282159
the joker is allreader here bro. is the 3/-3
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>>431296967
wasp and armor dont do anything, enchantress wins you games against luke cage, absorbing man is literally a key part of this games lockdown
hulk is decent but its rare to even get to play him considering how much youre forcing retreats

>>431300037
cyclopse is very efficient mana usage, after storm hes like a second nebula and the turns after you get play your cards off curve but still generating value, misty knight and sunspot add to that giving you more flexibility in your aggro over just locking yourself out of locations with ebony maw or praying maximus is enough
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>>431302018
I went from 100 to 110 easily with this, my experience was very different.
-Armor,Shocker for The Thing, Abomination also worked very well.
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>>431302018
Also you understand you play a vanilla 4/4 just for an evolved cyclops and misty knight right? better just play a maximus, JJ and a lizard.
If you use HE you should put at least 3-4 cards that combine to have an important effect.
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Fuck brodes asshole.
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>>431273583
There's this bundle coming up if you like the variants:

https://snap.fan/bundles/BundleMarvelsVoicesPride/
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>>431302969
I ain't buying no fag shit
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>pool 3 complete

There is something deflating now that the only cards you get from here on are the SP, whatever shitty cards they drop and maybe one new S5/4 a month.

They really need to up the amount of cards they release, there should be like 10+ card releases a month, half of them directly into pool 3 or they need to do an occasional expansion where they inject 20-30 new cards. They said that they want to support this game for 10+ years but we're in year 2 and there's almost no growth already and longtime players are losing interest.
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>>431301051
When you know someone is trying to smash your food with a sledge hammer you make a quick burger and gtfo instead of fucking around twice as long to make a cake yes.

>>431302969
Might kill the game with all the fag shit getting boycotted this year lol.
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>>431305725
>When you know someone is trying to smash your food with a sledge hammer you make a quick burger and gtfo instead of fucking around twice as long to make a cake yes.
??????????????????
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>>431305761
What he actually meant was:
When you know your wife's gonna peg your ass with a strap-on you put on some lube real quick and get fucked twice instead of putting on a condom yes.
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Does the double booster location have a chance to proc normally or was it event-only?
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I managed to not buy the season pass and now I just did.
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There are no good thanos decks. I've tried everything. The decks he's in you might as well play without him
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>>431305219
>yugioh player has entered the chat
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>>431311785
he's excellent with anything lockjaw + other big bodies. mind stone and time stone are the greatest lockjaw fodder in the game. space stone allows you to free up more room for lockjaw. can run killmonger versions with death, or buff versions with okoye, nakia, captain marvel. swarm versions with kazar blue marvel onslaught are less strong in current evolutionary "meta." all versions run 3+ 6 drops
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>>431298867
affliction only works when you opponent is filling the board before you. even without luke cage affliction HE will only be good in a junk style list. It's bad matchups in bounce and destroy cards were already common.
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>>431312042
here's some visual examples. just stay away from jubilee; you may be tempted to run her if you have infinaut giganto stuff. but she is a jebait even with zabu. you don't need her
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who else in low priority queue?

I face the same 4 people every game now.

Guess this is what you get for running the clock on every turn vs galactus players.
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>>431313626
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>wave + 2 cost turn 5
>aero or heimdall turn 6
Pretty much a rip off from the sandman move deck.
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THIS GAME IS DESIGNED TO CREATE CONDITIONS THAT WILL DRIVE YOU TO MAKE EMOTIONAL PURCHASES

THIS GAME IS DESIGNED TO BEAT YOU IN THE MOST FRUSTRATING WAY POSSIBLE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE CURRENCY ON YOUR ACCOUNT

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>>431313087
These look good thank you. I'm going to have to make some space in my decks. I have like 5 decks right now I'm testing.
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>>431315836
i play it while i'm having a poo mate
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>>431316252
>le ebin contrarain mayme kekl0rz
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https://youtu.be/HwGk6RyDJhQ?t=417
deck-based matchmaking btw
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>>431317598
Wtf is that fake laugh? Fuck this fag.
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Muh dick bro
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>>431318653
jacinto is the only good variant for wing
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>>431318653
I hate when they make in-house variants 1200.
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>>431223194
hearthstone is worse
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>have yet to see crystal or shanna once after their 'buffs'
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bought a new mobile phone and installed marvel snap on it but this little shit won't show my old progression even tho it's linked with same google account as my tablet and steam
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Any reason to not open a reserve and save it? I'm pool 3 complete and I've still been getting cards through them but I've seen some people save them up.
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>>431320587
The other day I ran into a guy using shanna with dazzler and debrii and shit to fill up both boards but thanks to location fuckery I happened to put a cosmo in every lane so it didn't work.
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>>431315836
just play kang. who care if the game is rigged.
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>>431321183
>you can get the newly dropped series 3 cards on the day
>potential events like the holiday variants
>they might change the reserve system one day, so might as well save it if you don't need tokens atm
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>>431321183
The reason to save boosters is to wait for series drops and get all the dropped cards at once. You also don't want to open a S4 that could potentially drop the next month. Previously people also saved them for variant rushes but they said there wouldn't be anymore going forward. If you need gold or collectors tokens feel free to open them but once your pool 3 complete there's no reason to not save them if they decide to change things in the future again.
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Galactus should be removed from the game until the rework.

Jeff should be a 2/2

Cyclops and wasp need nerfing. They offer too much value for their play cost. Thing should hit 2 times not 3.

Nebula needs to get 1 a turn but have 2 power to begin with.

Kitty needs to gain 1 per bounce and start at 2 power.

Armour should protect your cards from minus power as well as destroy effects and it should stop galactus from destroying the lane.

Storm is a nigger.

That's how we fix this meta.
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What is your favorite Marvel comics, bros?
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>>431324116
I've never read a single marvel comic in my life
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>>431321183
only reason is to get the cards asap when they drop to series 3 but you can just save credits for that
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>>431324116
nextwave
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>>431324116
practically 90% of the comics the greatest card in the game is in
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Since wave has completely replaced sandman they should just rework sandman to do something more interesting.
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>>431325298
Keep telling ya, he should increase all cards cost by 1, 5/4.
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>>431324116
Punisher v1-v3, Punisher War Zone v1, Punisher War Journal v1, Ennis Punisher
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>>431325298
fuck the devs for ruining the healthiest meta the game ever saw. and they are so behind blackbolt got nerfed after he stopped being meta, just because they hate him.
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>>431325750
Miss 90s comic cover art
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>>431325298
3/3: On turn 6, both players can play only one card.
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>>431325808
he was still meta, just because people are playing with HE doesn't mean he is not good anymore
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>>431327498
That's just Wave again
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>>431327876
he stopped being meta when kitty pryde dropped and wave completely shutting his deck down. HE had nothing to do with it. Bounce decks put more power into play so stature wasn't competitive.
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do i pull the trigger
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>>431328242
No bro he's going down to pool 3 next month :)
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Why the fuck would you retreat t1 on an ego game in infinite?
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>>431328242
Why not? Even if he does drop down to p3 it's gonna be a few weeks so you should be able to recoup most of the tokens by then
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>>431328110
if that's the case, this is just another late nerf by SD, where they are looking at outdated data
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>>431328325
Because it's boring
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>>431328325
"I am Ego, this is my domain. Escaped!"
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>>431328456
>we decided black bolt's day in the sun was over
they just don't want him to ever be played. acting as if discarding the lowest cost card isn't irrelevant in 99% of cases. he was played in just 1 deck after being a meme the whole rest of the games lifespan and got nerfed.
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>>431327907
wave shoot downs jeff.
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Black Bolt
4/6
On reveal: Discards the next card drawn by the opponent.
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>>431328325
I do that when they snap on me just to ruin their stupid little meme, followed by "snap?" x3 +ms marvel
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>>431328864
>they just don't want him to ever be played.
at that point just remove him from the game or rework him, if it wasn't black bolf, moon knight would have been the next best card to combo with stature, now stature is not much better than just running Titania and dropping her turn 6
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>>431328864
but why? they allow sera dispite her being a non pool 4-5 card to alwaya be strong. do they just hate the character or something.
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>>431329158
that shit is even more cancer
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>>431329348
the basically say the same thing about crystal every time too. thinking it would be terrible for the game if the cards were useful. maybe they do just hate the inhumans.
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Some people are really bad at this game.
>Turn 4 they play Galactus without snapping
>Turn 5 they play Spider-Man without snapping
>Emote Snap? To them knowing I'm going to rope them
>They snap and emote Snap?
>Still just rope them with the Kamala emote
I wish there was a "nice 1 cube* emote.
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>>431329680
there is a posibilty there is a mandate on inhuman characters being bad. like marvel doesn't want to have anything with inhumans. the only good inhuman card is doggo
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>>431325298
Why do people say this? She only does it for one turn
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>>431245559
How broken would Thanos be if mind stone always started in your hand?
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>>431329983
If jonah jameson card lets you mock players, it's a day1 buy.
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>>431330317
Because wave doesn't limit you to playing a card per turn until t6. Which means she can be slotted into way more decks than sandman. So she's replaced sandman's position in the meta as the counter to bounce and sera decks.
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>>431316021
late reply but no prob, hope your thanos experience has improved. the bottom one in the screencap is very unoptimized; i just unlocked zabu and darkhawk and have been squeezing them in everywhere. and the dino was not performing in that list i was gonna cut it for iron man

But in general there is nothin better than dropping a mind stone into lockjaw; no other card can clear your deck of two 1-drops before the lockjaw RNG. not to mention if you manage to cycle buff cards or the time stone you can get crazy value goin.
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>>431331843
So if I'm reading it right she's just supposed to be used on 5 then?
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>>431333158
She's only played t5 unless you are playing galactus or ramp. The best deck running wave right now is probably thanos HE. Any decks that can generate decent tempo like janejaw and patriot can also use t5 wave.
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See you losers in infinite
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Are dinohawk lists good? Any deck recommendations?
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>>431324116
I'm much more of a DC guy, but I really liked X-23.
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>wong on 4
>psylocke+wave on 5
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>>431334167
>not the Ultimate Thanos
>not the Ultimate Hulk
you could paypiggie harder
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>>431334167
it'd be more fun if you cut all the HE stuff and added mr. negative, black panther, arnim zola
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>>431333912
Oh okay I get it now. So people say she's a better sandman because you dumb all your piece before 5 and hit em with the wave so they can't dump
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>>431337315
The extra 2 energy on t5 is useful as well. Like dumping a stone into lockjaw, playing another 2 drop to win prio or that 2 energy going towards sunspot or hulk.
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Here's your Sandman rework
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>>431324116
Captain Marvel
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>>431334285
>>431334918
Moongirl is unnecessary and your curve is really high if you also play WQ. This is the best performing version from Untapped according to someone with premium from a few weeks ago, swapping Ice Man for Nebula. Don't cut the Doom whatever you do, its what gives you counterplay to all the other decks that are playing T5 wave. If you spend your T5 playing Dino while they wave and you have Doom it's an easy win.
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>>431339287
Forgot the image
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>>431256770
is this deck ai generated?
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So what is the HE deck?
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>>431341754
just putting him and hulk in thanos lockjaw is the only playable one against kitty
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Wolverine is just way too strong in some locations
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My first krackle
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>>431343061
no one cares reddit anyone can look up any of those fucking pictures at any given time you're not special for playing a fucking game faggot
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>>431343061
looks bretty good
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>>431343061
awesome anon, mine was baby chavez
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>>431339545
I was trying coulson but I like Emma's power
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>80-90 is literally 90% galactus
I don't even want to play. I don't care if I can counter them or not, i'm just so fucking sick of seeing this dude.
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>>431345946
id that's the case you can just build an anti galactus deck, reach infinite and join the HE gang
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That fucking Cyclops/Misty/Sunspot/Shulk deck is brutal. They just keep skipping turns and getting massive value.
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I wish I enjoyed Sera control man. It's s tier right now but so monotonous omg
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>construct optimal curve synergistic deck that theoretically beat every other deck

>game is coded to have all 3 locations fuck your deck over

thanks?
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They need to tone the -power shit down. They've basically made multiple cards that are 1 sided hazmats
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>>431347836
I was telling everyone that it would be the correct HE deck since everyone and their mom would be doing stupid afflict shit so random luke techs would be running all over the place
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>>431284526
>hit rank 60
>variant reward is pixel Strong Guy
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>>431324116
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Anyone that has ever played galactus should be perma-banned
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>>431324116
Marvels, but I wouldn't recommend it to a new reader, they simply wouldn't appreciate it on the same level
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>>431349635
Oh this has been on my to read list forever.
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>>431324116
The Remender run of Venom made Flash Thompson my favorite character in all of fiction.
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>>431334801
Tried a Thanos list like this but it was too inconsistent and you have to decide whether you want a clogged hand or a clogged board.
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>every time I snap I fucking lose because the opponent pulls out the MOST ABSOLUTELY ASSPULL CARDS POSSIBLE
I've just stopped snapping entirely. I have probably a near 0% winrate with snapping. Its utterly unreal. Yeah, that person was SURELY RUNNING A FUCKING MYSTIQUE IN THAT DESTROY DECK OF COURSE THEY WERE AND OF COURSE THEY JUST HAPPENED TO TAKE 1 ONGOING ABILITY I NEEDED AND JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE 1 POINT OVER ME FOR THE VICTORY TIE BREAKER OF COURSE, THIS IS NATURAL AND TOTALLY 100% NOT BOTS CHEATING
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Cyclops is massively overpowered. This shit is unreal and will have to be nerfed. You basically can't win without luke cage.
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>>431348512
Yeah there are enough cards in this game that punish you for playing as it is, now we have another entire genre of deck that demands you do nothing or lose. Or do something and then lose.
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>hey guys, what if we combined hazmat with spiderwoman???
How did they think this would be fun? You either play destroy or play luke cage or you just have like, no power at the end of the game in some lanes.
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>>431351440
>>431351623
As long as you have 1 mana left over starting from turn 4 (or if you have 1 mana from turn 3 from something like psylocke or superflow) you can have -6 to -8 on a lane by the end of the game. It's literally a better, cheaper, more reliable spiderwoman/hazmat. He's crazy strong right now.
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Cerebro is unplayable now. HE completely fucks this deck up
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>>431353638
Luke is mandatory now in every cerebro deck. Honestly i've just straight up deleted my cerebros because the longer this game has gone on, the more unreliable they've become, almost unplayable even.
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>>431353638
>Fucked by locations
>Fucked by buffs
>Fucked by nerfs
>Fucked by new releases

Just rework cerebro for fuck's sake.
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>Tune to watch the tournament
>Braude vs Spyro, Galactus vs Ramp with Wave and Leader
>EXACTLY the matchup we argued about yesterday
>Galactus shitting all over Wave+Leader with ease
kek, he even did a few misplays
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>>431355430
Leader no longer works if Galactus gets his single lane unless you have priority I guess? But even then I don't know if that matters.
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>>431355556
the point if wave is active then they only get one card even with jeff. making th einteraction with galactus the same as old leader. when when they had to make sure knull was always played last
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HE turned this game into irredeemable dogshit
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>>431355556
It was pointless dude he got Nimrod' and Ock't and Glock't and Destroyer'd and Taskmaster'd. Leader and Wave were useless every single game.
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>>431355430
note braude was playing revis's list and not you list. won not trhough any of the plays you mentioned but through the same tactis as revis rather than the glactus gameplan.
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>>431355940
He actually used Galactus turn 6 like i mentioned, that was for a bunch of cubes.
Spyro was busy trying to counter Galactus and lost to everything else.
He also had spiderman like i mentioned.
In the end:
DID HE NOT SHIT ALL OVER WAVE+LEADER?
You said wave+leader counters Galactus what happened loser? It wasn't even a contest.
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>>431356278
wave plus leader counter the galactus play like, not the shuri dock ock play line. which is there to not rely on galactus in matchups where no shang chi is present. shur ock itself is a risky play if shang chi is in the deck. leader being there is why braude didn't want to commit to galactus. his biggest cubes win came from taskmaster, a card you never mentioned.

also spyro wasn't playing moyen's list which is a zabu darkhawk doomwave variant. not ramp. it's based on getting prio for wave on 5.
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>>431357062
He had priority on 5. He got shit on.
Galactus fucks these lists no big deal.
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>>431357163
he didn't have priority on 4 the fisrt game and thus didn't play wave. a zabu deck would always have priority on 4. he was relying on the black widow to fuck with the draws. but really ice-man is better in a ramp list to fuck with other high curve decks.
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>>431357661
>Hurr durr wave leader > Galactus
>Watch Galactus fuck wave and leader in the ass in 4k
>"hurr durr the OTHER cards weren't the same and he didn't use SPOODERMAN"
cope and seethe
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>>431357858
if you watch braude's stream he specifically mentions being afraid of leader. and was releived by the iron lad hitting nebula and not a wave.
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And if you watch really carefully you can see Galactus cum dripping from Leader's asshole.
Kinda makes you think if you were completely wrong.
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>>431358194
braude's commentary all throughout is trying to play around leader. and he only beats leader if leader isn't palyed. even on his 6 cube game he made a mistake on play death on 5 instead of taskmaster because he wanted to beat leader on 6.
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This is what this game has come to. This is the only consistent way to climb ladder.
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Seems like the typical Galactus list buttfucked a wave+leader list, and it wasn't even hard. Seems like it's exactly the opposite to what you claimed, and now you're coping.
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>>431358664
Shenaut is excellent for climbing tho
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>>431358664
you can probably climb with any garbage list right now by simply including luke cage and snapping when you draw him
not like that's much better though
I seriously fucking hate this game at the moment
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a smart player playing a derivative of the revis galactus list won by not commiting to alactus to avoid losing to leader which is what is was built to do
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Yea, turns out Wave+Leader is irrelevant vs Galactus, after playing a bunch of tournaments i figured as much. Who would have thunk?
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"i lose to leader" - Braude
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Also holy crap is he mediocre. Watched him for two matches and he made 3 important misplays.
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This is just hela roulette but worse. There's no way this brings move back into the game. Imagine slamming this turn 6 and your vulture, dagger and kraven all end up in the same lane?
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>>431360123
imagine if they don't. scarier than heimdall who's just a math problem.
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>>431360123
It should only work for the location you play him in. Otherwise it's too easy, you just play dagger kraven etc and then spin the wheel on turn 6 and end up with 30 power locations (or you lose).
They should rework him completely.
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>>431360123
yeah ok bro but just imagine wong into annihilus
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>>431360370
Or even better, imagine Zabu into Kingpin into Wolverine into Magik into Wong + Mystique into Annihilus
Or something similar with Nimrod.
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>>431360710
If kingpin moves, does he kill himself turn 6? Might be a dumb question but i've just rarely ever seen kingpin to start with.
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>>431360795
Nope it's like an ongoing, he gets there and then it appears, so if he moves he will turn on after he "arrives" (like ongoing effects do).
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>>431360370
This would probably be the play. Add in something like Captain Marvel turn 5 to ensure you could win 2 lanes just in case your bigger units stack together at the end of the game. I'd argue Vision, but I think Marvel would work better since your board would be getting shook up regardless of where you put vision.
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>>431360992
Ahh, that makes sense, yeah. Thanks anon
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So the dream is torch, dagger, hulkbuster torch, wong, kraven+vulture, Annihilus.
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>>431361451
I feel like hulkbuster is a trap, personally. I've been running move a lot and I just can't get the value out of him like I want to. Could just be a me problem I guess.
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>>431361615
he's probably gonna get better with ghost spider
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>thing just casually being a 4/9 or even a 3/9 with zabu
>cyclops is a 3/8 or even a 3/10
Spiderwoman is basically deleted at this point
Nice
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>>431361615
I only ran Hulkbuster with Multiple Man. I'd rather have a tech card than HB even with HT in my deck.
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Why are you fags talking about Annihilus like this game isn't just going to be all about control decks and Galactus again?
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Keep going?
Kinda want golden
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>>431365932
Because Galactus has about 3 weeks left to live
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>>431365932
You make it sound like control was ever not meta
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>>431365932
Next season is going to be all about movement and guess what card completely dumpsters movement? Galactus is 100% going to get nerfed.
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>>431366206
That looks pretty good but that particular variant is one of the few that looks good golden
Up to you
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>>431366224
>>431366398
Yeah, just like Wave got nerfed?
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>>431366624
No, they're reworking him
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>>431366624
Wave did get nerfed, what the fuck are you talking about? Deathwave and DoomWave and completely gutted.
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The utter schadenfreude i'm going to have when galactus gets the hammer is gonna make me nut. The galactus players in the snap discord are already frothing at the mouth because SD has said they've noticed hes too strong and they're desperate to not lose their crutch card.
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>>431366689
thos decks got deleted but now wave herself is a majro problem card. wave was never less of a problem than the meta right before the wave rework. veryone was playing decks that dodged her effect.
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>>431366824
They haven't said he's too strong
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>>431366901
How is Wave more of a problem now than she was before? I'll wait.
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>>431366398
The only card that is specifically pro-move deck is Ghost Spider. The rest of the cards can be teched into other decks and do more work there than in a move deck.
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>>431366952
They literally said his playrate is far too high, leaning to that he was too strong and needed more adjustments.
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>>431367357
High playrate does NOT equal the deck being too strong
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>>431367434
Yeah, man, people are playing the deck in record numbers because it fucking loses all the time and is bad. I'll enjoy your tears when hes nerfed as well.
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>>431366967
every single tournament deck is playing wave on5 to lock the opponent out snfd then follow up with leader or doom. they play to have early advnatge in the same way leech leder tid to leech you then counter whatever you turn 6 was with leader or aero. there are no cards that get around wave's effect, not even jeff.. and they play that beause otherwise there are no more turn 6 spew decks cometing with bounce in power. it's way more cancer than black bolt stature was.
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>>431367571
They were doing that already? Wave is now just 1 card each instead of 3-4 discounted cards to your 1 card lol. She's much better now in general than she was before.
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>>431367563
Funny how you're taking my correcting you as meaning I must be a Galactus player
You're just factually wrong, they've never said the deck is too strong, but they HAVE repeatedly stated it feels bad to play against. That, coupled with the fact too many people are playing it, is the reason it's getting changed
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>>431367882
The picture I posted proves you otherwise, I don't need to argue with you when its right there. Also lets see your Galactus splits + boosters.
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>>431367992
So you just can't read
Alright
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>>431368046
Yeah, didn't think you'd post them
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>>431367696
wave is a stornger effect now that ther eare now counters to it. if you were playing black bolt starue before you had nothign to worry about when wave came down.
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>>431368143
Bro what? Have the fucki is going from playing Leader/Doom, Death and She-hulk to just Doom or Leader not a nerf? I don't understand your logic here.
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>>431368272
she hulk hulk and death can be countered or even somethimes overpowered. nuwave into leader or doom can't. before zabusera could still play 3 four costs which could include shang cih and darkhawk.
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>>431368272
People were developing counters to Wave. Black Bolt + Stature and Miles were a tier 1 package because they kicked Wave's shit in. Their "nerf" killed that deck's success against Wave, then they went the extra mile and killed the Stature package altogether.

Doomwave deserved to die. I'm not so sure about everything else that got fucked.
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>>431368520
>>431368527
Regardless, Wave is drastically nerfed and saying otherwise is stupidity.
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>>431368594
wave decks are all tier 1 right now and with less competition for the spot than before.
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>>431368704
Still massively nerfed, waves ability is just that strong. She needed the magik treatment.
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>>431368594
Wave would have been less powerful if they let Stature + Miles kick her shit in.
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>>431367563
>>431367357
Galactus has a losing winrate but barely just a smidge under 50%. That being said, Galactus is a problem not because he is "too strong" but because he is anti-fun.
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>>431368929
He's both. He's anti-fun and boring to win against and too strong when his ability activates. It's fucking both.
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Freddybabes' HE deck. Just won the tournament (also used Galactus).
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>>431370853
Would a Storm somewhere in there help?
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>>431372025
Not really. You're happy to let your opponent play cards.
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>>431367357
rip doc ock and knull
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>>431353638
you run luke in 2 anyway the actual problem is increased enchantress use since hitting your luke or your cerb/mystique kills you
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Has anyone made a HE Bounce deck yet?
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Master Mold Y/N?
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I don't like how arnim activates on reveals yet doesn't "play" them. On reveals should only activate if you play a card, not re-add it somewhere.
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>>431379157
I like him but he's probably not worth the tokens when ronan/being annoying are all he really combos with
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>>431379157
Absolutely not, he's completely garbage currently.
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>>431379157
he shits on galactus decks
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>>431379517
How the fuck does he do that?
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>>431379673
every deck that runs many 6 costs can't shrink their hand so they will miss all their draws if they didn't already draw their ramp. also happens to thanos lockjaw and electro ramp. same way iceman always hits the ramp card.
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>wasp is now a 0/3
>cyclops is like a 3/8
>thing is a 4/9
Man what the fuck?
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>peak pops and I have wolfsbane, negative, surfer, mystique and iron man in my hand
>snap
>opponent insta retreats
FUCK
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>>431379998
thing being a 4/9 is nothing, thats around the standard power for 4 costs without drawbacks
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>>431379236
Don't summon the mysterio autist
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>>431380167
With Zabu he's a 3/9 which is above rate but fair enough. I expect them to nerf some of these abilities before long because its honestly insane to think they're balanced unless you're playing luke or destroy.
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>>431380387
>above rate
>with zabu darkhawk is a 3/14
>with zabu sentry is a 3/10
>with zabu jessica jones is a 3/8
>with zabu rescue is a 3/9
>with zabu shana is a 3/10

thing is one of the worst cards in the package, hes an understatted 4 cost at best when alternatives offer more, his only up side is that he cant be shang chi'd but who the fuck is even running that anymore when luke cage gets rid of his upside anyway and now youve payed 4 energy for a 6 power nothing
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>>431380627
>darkhawk
Fair
>sentry
Nobody is playing sentry right now and sentry has a massive downside whereas thing doesn't
>jones
I honestly haven't seen jones in so long I forgot she used to be a staple
>rescue
Nobody uses rescue
>shana
Who the fuck is playing shana right now?
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>>431375969
I tried it, didn't quite work as you give up too much potential power with falcon.
Hitting kitty with beast makes her playable turn 6 with hulk. Could swap psylocke with shocker to try and hit hulk, but that's rare. So t4 psylocke makes shehulk 0cost if you skip t5. That's hopefully hulk, shehulk and kitty on t6.
Shehulk is swappable with abomination, but I felt skipping mana was more concistent than getting -power out.
Nebula > cyclops is strong. But deck just fails if they have a cage.
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>>431380864
were not talking about if cards are used or not were talking about mana value and if that dictates card strength
sentrys downside is that you get a -10, similarly things downside is that your opponent plays luke and you now have a dogshit card
lets keep going though
>with zabu drax is a 3/8
>with zabu crossbones is a 3/8
>with zabu typhoid mary is a 3/10

I just said that things energy value EVEN with high evolutionary isnt anything special, it really isnt considering how much more other 4 costs can get, how they can get those numbers without being countered by luke, or how they dont have drawbacks like having to play an even worse 4 cost 4 power dead draw in their deck
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>>431381520
Id argue Thing is better than most of those since he can dodge shang and is also effectively a 3-4/9 with no drawback.
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>>431381315
Ah. Oh well.
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>>431381950
>drax
>crossbones
>jessica jones
>shana
not only do they dodge shang they are also unaffected by luke cage who once again turns thing into a dogshit card
and now the conversation has past the point of "should thing be nerfed" to you justifying if thing is even a good card at ALL
I legit think hes the worst card in the HE package, by far even
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>>431382263
Again
>drax
Has to hit a target and can be whiffed
>crossbones
You have to already be winning the location to play it there
>jones
Again, I barely if at all ever see anyone play her anymore
>shana
Again, who is play this card? Almost nobody outside of a zoo player and they are rare because of monger.
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>>431382596
>thing
your opponent plays luke
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>>431382739
That doesn't negate the other bonuses he provides to hulk or abom and its only if luke is played
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>>431382873
it does, if luke is played your abom costs 5
>thing provides bonuses to hulk
okay you just actually dont know what youre talking about
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>>431382970
I meant with zabu played hulk still gets his bonus because you save the 1 mana
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>>431384194
but you lost some from playing zabu on 2
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>>431324116
For me it's Nightcrawler
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>>431384245
I still think its worth honestly
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Should I buy this Kitty?
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>>431374252
C2 also runs the hazmat shell so everyone running luke for HE makes the deck unplayable
You also lose on the spot to HE if you don’t draw your own luke or if they rogue it
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>>431384660
I find this one better than the super rare one everyone is buying
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>>431385030
Yeah, the bandage on her face is cute too.
I'll go ahead and grab it
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What beats evolutionary if I don’t have Luke cage or galactus
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Which one? I'm leaning towards kazaar or white queen
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>>431385506
Bounce, Destroy and Dracula
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>>431385506
everyone got kiity. build a bounce deck. also destroy cards
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>>431385637
Why are you even asking the question
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>>431385637
White Queen. She's much rarer and is legitimately the most sought after variant in the game. The Kazar is only rare, so he's more likely to show up again and there's a chance you can get him out of a mystery variant too.
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>>431385790
>5 head white queen
That would be her venom variant with the mega knob slob 3000 tongue
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>>431386383
>5k tokens variant
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>>431385790
>most sought after variant in the game
this is the mind of coomers
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>>431387036
It's true though.
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I think I might just live with free variants. I can't bring myself to spend gold.
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clearly the most sought after is chibi death with just how many reddit posts there are of people splitting it 20+ times trying to get an inked.
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I just got this from a lootbox. Why the fuck would anyone use a variant that turns a waifu card into a dude?
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>>431387968
Having shit taste is common.
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How's this?
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Playing Galactus for the first time this season, and I'm surprised at how well this deck does, even when I don't draw Galactus. Feels like I've won half of my games with Galactus, and the other half with Destroyer.
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>>431388516
Consider swapping in ironman and cage from sera and chavez.
Cage has given me many +4 from HE decks, playing him t6.
Ironman is great t5 when you are locked to two locations, which will happen a lot these days with the cheating matchmaking.
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>>431388516
it's fine, a pretty standard list, honestly I'd drop sera in favor of another 1-2 drop, and try to fit Luke Cage in somewhere these days
Sera is just too huge of a tempo downswing, and the opponent is probably going to wave you on 5 if they can
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>>431389249
>>431389330
Will do, thanks
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Is Jeff worth a pin? I'm pool 3 complete, the only big bad I have is HE, but Jeff just seems so fucking useful
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>>431388012
What's the lore behind this variant?
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>>431390984
I think so.
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>>431390984
He isn't as useful as he was. They've recently removed 3 different "cant do X" locations entirely from the game, so his uses have dropped a little. Still probably a good pick, but not for 6k.
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destroy is feeling real fun right now guys
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Kinda bored of the mirror matches now desu
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Guys I had wave as my free season card and I didnt take it and took dumbass Ultron instead because I like kazoo. The next day I hit infinite, realize how good wave is, and I am depressed about my folly.
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What's stupid about HE to me is you don't even have to play him for his ability to work. Should be the opposite m
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>>431397387
He's the only useless card in his own deck lmao
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>>431394356
It's the only way to deal with all the HE debuffs
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Bots shouldn't be allowed to play Hela. It's absolutely fucking retarded how they have the most perfect RNG every single time. No invisible woman, no Colleen Wing or anything. They NEVER discard Hela.
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Man I would've won my last game, but the opponent dumped Dracula and Morb in Nexus. Morb was fine, but the unshangable, uncosmoable, unenchatressable, unrogueable 4/16 Dracula fucked me.
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>>431405452
Just wait till the living tribunal comes out. You'll see some real degeneracy with Dracula.
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Hardly ever see these combos, very interesting with a form of postnerf zabu.
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Guess what the gambit into lockjaw hit, then what the ironlad hit?
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>>431409768
Gambit hits Bishop, then Iron Lad copies Gambit and hits your Angela
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>>431409958
That'd make me ragequit, but he just hit 11power collector and turned into dracula.
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alright abomb and moon girl were not working out
so check this new build, you just dont give a shit about luke cage but cyclops is there to force them to play it anyway
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Which one to go Infinite?
I want that gold skin.
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>>431411051
Hard to say desu. High Evo is too new but he seems pretty good so far.
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>>431405872
Man this is gonna be gross. I'm tempted to skip 2099 for this
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>tfw build the PERFECT anti-galactus deck
>can still keep up with other decks but ALWAYS put those faggots in their place
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What's your living tribunal deck, anons?

I feel that onslaught and ironlad is worth the gamble with negative.
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>>431412646
I was thinking some shit with Dracula/Ironman, but I don't think you could make Apocalypse all that big with that
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>>431413887
I've been having great success with ironlad, jubilee, absorbing man and lockjaw to dump my entire deck pretty consistently, but I then saw that negative could perhaps do better.
A lockjaw discard would most likely be very successful.
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Annoys the fuck out of me that cards like Cyclops have no abilities, yet cards like Punisher (a military guy with no actual powers) do.
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>Forgot to do missions again for the second time this month
It's over isn't it.
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>>431416545
I really hope they keep changing old cards.
I'd love to see punisher changed to become an angela, but for the opponents cards.
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https://youtu.be/0M1ICvj2t9M?t=797
two games in a row where master mold forced a retreat
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>rickety bridge, altar of death, strange academy
>next game dream dimension into weird world
fuck off
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>>431411051
Galactus is the consistent one, though there's rumblings of a nerf.
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Pick a deck for me, pic rel are the cards I'm missing
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>>431202923
I don't really get it. There are other cards you can turn to 0 cost with relative ease and have way more power than stature
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>>431421560
destroy surfer with Nimrod
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Oh fuck, just came across a c5 player, ran nimrod. Seems like a fun deck.
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>>431412143
So just a Shenaut.
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>no play on round 6
thanks for the 8 cubes bot
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Hey, /snap/, show me a deck that cucks these HEfags.
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>>431428331
Regular ass Sera control
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What the fuck are the bots running now?
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One of the reasons to run ironman in a bounce deck.
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>>431428331
just put luke cage into whatever
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>galactus, HE, galactus, HE etc etc
fucking give me zabu back at this point, this is the most dogshit the game has been in a long ass time
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>>431432551
Total dogshit
Not is it enough that it’s the same tranny shit each game, every opponent seems to perfectly curve out and snap every game
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Anybody actually *seen* fogwell's gym since the event? I been playing a LOT and haven't seen it once, while I've seen peak once and nexus 2 or 3 times.
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IS DREAM DIMENSION THE FUCKING FEATURE LOCATION OR SOMETHING
FUCK OFF ALREADY
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HOW DO I UNLOCK LUKE CAGE
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worth? it's pretty adorable but i don't play her that often, I'm more of an agent 13 man
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>>431436224
Maria Hill is very bad
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>>431436042
He's in series 3
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>>431436224
burger or bust or bust on burger
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HOW DO I DRAW ZABU TURN 2 LIKE LITERALLY EVERYBODY ELSE
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why are there like no good onslaught variants
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>>431437426
the pixel one looks lame at first glance but it's effect ingame makes it look fuckin sick. glows and shimmers. but mayb the regular one has this effect too, haven't played him in a while
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>>431438376
the shimmer's part of the card effect, mystique gets it too if she copies him
I'd probably use the pixel one if I got it for free because of how goofy it looks but no way am I blowing gold on it
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>>431438570
yeah I got it for free, was pleasantly surprised with how cool it looked
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>>431438905
like pleasantly surprised cause when I first opened it I was like "this is retarded," but it grew on me as I saw it on board
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>moonknight picks galactus and knull
so fucking good
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>need 300 token from reserve to get high evo
>get 200 token
Of course I didd
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>>431430759
Hmmm..
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The 100 tokens you get instead of a card once P3 complete feels so bad.
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>>431440484
but sometimes you get more than 100!
isn't that soooo exciting? you only need 6000 for one card!
-Ben Brode, probably
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>>431440484
Its need to be taken out, since its a relic from when they had 1000 token cards
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>>431442682
They are readding 1000 token cards in the near future. Though as mystery pool 3 cards.
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why is this Jeff variant 1200? should swap prices with the colossus imo
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>>431442950
1200 = more fuckable variant
700 = less fuckable variant
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>>431442950
I got the Rian Gonzales Jeff but I would have gotten that one if I had the chance
He's very cute
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What deck did you use to get to infinite anon?
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>>431453994
Goodstuff soup ft. Darkhawk
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What the fuck is this High Evo Galactus deck
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>>431456968
A big fuck you eat shit middle finger, of course
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>>431453994
>>431423053
That was before the kitty though
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You have to be a smooth brain to play Sera control to infinite. I cannot mentally do it.
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>>431453994
I used this but it was against a good amount of bots from ~75+. I'd say like 60/40 bots vs real players. Also I climbed from 60-75 with a negative deck during peak event. And a few of the cards in this list changed around a lot, agent 13 just one of my pet faves that I'm often farming boosters for and some portions of play were non odin versions
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cringewave wished it was this fun
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>>431459962
>not using toxic sera instead
ngmi
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>Deck Based Matchmaking
>No ELO system
>Low Priority Queue for Emote Use
>Winrate adjusted (-ve) with currency on account
>Winrate adjusted (-ve) on each consecutive store visit
>Winrate adjusted (-ve) on use of default portrait and cardback
>Winrate adjusted (-ve) based on meta deck use %
>Winrate adjusted (-ve) based on win rate
>Adjusted deck draws
>Predetermined Loses
>Matchmaking versus bots
>Predatory pricing

You know why I like playing golf anon? Because it's honest. When I put the work in, I get better, and I enjoy the game more. There's none of that to be had in Marvel Snap. There's no progress, no skill, nothing. Just a series of conditions set up to increase the probability of you spending money the longer you play, or forcing you out because you're playing for free and taking up resources.
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>>431463983
>toxic sera with fucking luke cage everywhere
Dumb sera poster
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Seriously look at this. What a raging faggot. Bro acrs
>>431463983
Great deck anon
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Are they considering HE like Thanos and Galactus (a 6000 token card)?
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>>431453994
Storm dino control entire pool 2 but spiderman.

Climbing to infinite is just farming bots
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>>431467607
Yes, HE is a "big bad" and is a perma pool 5 card
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Can anyone explain how the cucklatus player managed to play yondu here? I don't remember what first location was initially since I changed it turn 1 but it definitely wasn't a coat reduction since none of my cards got it. Second location was lose one power per turn. Third location was first to fill up gets a free 6 cost card which is how I got orka.
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>>431468603
Pic related
For clarification he played Galactus on 5 with help from electro and then knull, sabertooth which got destroyed earlier and yondu on 6
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>>431468846
7 energy from electro. Knull + Yondu is 6 + 1
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>oscorp pops
>opp hasn't played anything for 3 turns and snaps
Oh boy I wonder what he's about to play on oscorp
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Who the fuck thought letting Wasp be a 0/3 was okay? What the actual fuck is this balance team doing?
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>>431471352

>getting upset at cheating bots
What should really rustle your jimmies is the second you queued, the loss was already fixed. They just wanted to waste your time.
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who the fuck plays kitty and electro in the same deck
absolute baboons I swear
oh of course it's a galactard
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>>431468846
>literal cheating bot complaining
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>>431471691
Cyclops too being a -2 as long as you have 1 fucking energy saved? Outrageously broken.
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>>431473104
How?
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the entire high evo thing was a terrible idea, at least in it's current iteration
they should rework the damn thing or nerf it out of play
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>>431473831
Whats funny is that they can't nerf the base cards because it would gut Patriot, so they can only touch the HE abilities.
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>>431473910
I mean yeah that much's obvious, why would they ever even touch the base cards
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Spiderman should not be playable on certain turns/locations like Avengers Compound. This cards ability is far too strong to allow that kind of control.
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>>431474015
Because this game is run by morons
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>>431474320
"must play here" locations need (if possible) appended to them
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>>431453994
this was in the first week
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Why the fuck is cyclops EVERY ROUND a -2 to the lane? What the fuck is this bullshit?
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>>431476048
just don't play cards bro
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>>431476236
Collapsed mine is literally just "free death" the location and it pisses me off every time I see it
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>Daily Bugle gives me opponent's Spider-Man
>Opponent plays Electro into Wave on left
>I play Spider-Man mid
>He can't play Galactus anymore
Lmao, that really backfired on you didn't it.
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>>431476236
>worldship
>ego
>TVA
>lamentis
>fun locations
Fuck you
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>>431476585
I love using Spidey or Xavier on Galactus lane. Shit's fucking cash.
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>>431476660
>locations that are so rare theyre cool to see and at worst are only ever just -1 cube
yeah theyre fun and cool, if weirdworld and mindscape were ego rarity theyd be the same but theyre not
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>having to run monger, shang, luke and enchantress now just to be able to win
God this meta is ass
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>>431476863
None of those locations I mentioned are fun. Lamentis is just "hurr durr your death and knull are now unbeatable while ego is leddit le snap bullshit. Worldship will always be awful with how many galactus abusers there are getting a F R E E galactus off for themselves and TVA is just trash unless you're running bounce or zoo.
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>>431477146
>these locations are fun except when my opponent is running a specific deck and then its -1 cube
woah
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>>431453994
last month knull galactus
this month I've become addicted to Hitman freelancer and am only at 80
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>>431477506
They aren't fun and you're clearly retarded. Kill yourself for having such trash opinions.
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Every HE ability needs a good nerf of ONCE PER GAME.
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>>431477146
tva is interesting. but considering the decks I play it rapes me.
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>>431474596
must play locations should allow you to negate. you can't play effects. that way is more interesting.
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>people who run Hulk in their HE deck but curve out every turn
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>wasp helped me put orca into morag
>wasp helped me deal with negasonic so I can put orca down
Love this bitch
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>>431476660
>Crimson Cosmos not on the bottom
>Starlight citadel as terrible location
The list was done by a moron
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>>431368892
I whould be fine if wave was a 3/0
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>>431475035
First weak there was still the old bots, now not so much, actually, there's almost no bots at all anymore, and worse yet, the bots got all a huge buff on top of changes to matchmaking.
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specimen's matches on his youtube videos are sitll all bots.
and hoogland keeps running into a kraven bot and doesn't realize its a bot.
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>>431367571
magik?.
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>>431482274
sure thing schizo
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>>431482274
Did he agatha bot? Are they infinite? And so on and on.
It's really a fact, bots now are meant to fool you into thinking they're players, they aren't dumb bots anymore. If you run into a stupid bot which is very very rare these days, they'll concede on turn 1.
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>sakaar with the 99% chance to pull my fucking shang whenever it appears
Fucking hate this location
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>>431482537
every time someone says the old bots are gone it's just because of some mmr shifts and they are immediately running into them the net season reset. and every update there's someone claiming bot splits got removed but they are always still there. the new bots with the ai generated names are harder sure but but if you are in that mmr below infinite that you only get bots you still get the obvious ones.

Specimen straight up uploading matches agaisnt a generic first name blade nakia bot
https://youtu.be/FsoC4Z0Lrag?t=186
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>>431482825
it's the tradeoff for dock ock always pulling him
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>>431338815
its wierd that they just didn't just revert him the moment they nerfed his power. is this just dev autisum. they don't want tl revert stuff..
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>>431483443
the whole point of the change was that if the original version was ever viable it sucked ass for everyone else
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>>431483202
Instead of watching other people play, why don't you play the game yourself, mate?
Bots nowadays use the infinity split very often, they're playing constructed decks, including DH. The lesser version of the bots or if you like "old bots", they'll screw up within the first 2 turns and then concede. Pic related is a poor example. The ones with nakia are extremely rare now, and they aren't all that nonsensical.
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>>431483506
I feel like I am in some kind of mirror dimentions. casue all the stuff that people say its ass to play. I am fine with and stuff like bounce sera make me really mad. I whould still like sandman to be like a 4/0 so I can play my doctor doom zola deck.
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>>431484114
both types of bots have always existed. every single season near the end every starts claiming bots got removed from the game. when its just everyone pooling into the higher mmmr brackets naturuallytoward the end so there's less seperation. but if you are really high mmr but not infinite it's still all going to be bots. bots based on the most popular decks were always a thing. all the turn 6 galactus bots turned up at the same time.

and even the nakia bots aren't running random cards. their decks were made back when nakia and sif were in every deck before they got nerfed.
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>>431484549
Its because you're a faggot, anon.
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>>431484549
Sandman was ass originally because the only decks that would flood at the time were Zoo/Surfer. He also fell out of favor when Zabu came out because people had a 3 cost Enchantress.
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>>431484851
>both types of bots have always existed
Jesus, man. There was a clear change to how the whole game fucking works. Those types of "human, player, blah blah" nomenclature for different bots is long gone, long before this change to the whole system became a thing.
Facts now are:
>there's less bots
>bots now aren't free 8 cubes or 4 cubes
>bots uses the infinity rarity very often
>bots still emote, yes they do
>bots play meta decks if you will, from sera to discard
>bots with nakia still exists, it's more rare, same for move bots
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>nerf any opposing meta that interferes with making money
>get overwhelmed with dogshit meta
>nerf spider man next patch
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>>431486038
How funny would it be if they nerfed move and the only thing they did was give it a second iron fist card
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>>431486038
This Highcrap excuse of zabu decks and she hulk deathwave reskin shit is so fucking stupid that then didn't even bother putting conditions to Hulk's effect, you can unspent one single energy and get freaking 2 power boost over and over again, hulk turn out to be a 22 infinaut without skipping any turn since you only need a single unspent energy to trigger its effect.
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>>431485410
bots always played meta decks. the older bots play outdated meta decks. every new bot wave since february has been bots that retreat and snap more agressively than the classic bots, that's nothing new. the new bots are harder to spot with each wave and you always see them more than the old ones after each patch because they get added right into the popular mmr brackets.
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>>431486893
That's just a very condescending way to say that you agree.
>bots always played meta decks
No shit sherlock, but they didn't touch the fuckers for seasons on end. Now bots in its majority play just like humans, don't do stupid plays very often and they're up to date, most of them.
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They really are gonna kill this game unless they release the unranked modes asap. Nobody wants to hit the play button, play against meta abusers and manipulated matches nonstop till you hit infinite so you can start having some fun. By the time people go through the infinite climbing shitfest, they'd be too burnt out to play afterwards or waste any more time into this shit.
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>>431487219
they update bots every month. they added the ability for bots to emote around january. and many player are still convinced the bots can't emote so they got fooled by every new bot wave.
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>>431488852
infinite isn't fun anymore either
absolute dogcrap meta
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>>431488852
im having fun on infinite except for the usual shitlactus games
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>>431488970
>>431489241
The duality of man
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These fucking HE faggots are getting just as bad about snapping and emote spamming as galactus fags are. They quite the fuck down when I play luke turn 6 though and they lose a fat 8 cubes
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>onslaught skrull in hela, also fully decked out in 1200 variants
yeah right game mhm, totally not a bot
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Does retreat later even fucking work? I use it every time I retreat and i've literally never gotten a tie before.
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>>431491089
Yeah I've gotten it a few times. The situations where it's useful are extremely rare though.
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>ceretard plays prof x on the throne location and it completely steals all his buffs because I hadn't played there yet
>he actually stays in and takes the -4 cubes the next turn
???
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How does the untapped tracker know my opponent is playing thanos and has 15 cards? Does it show me the animation at the beginning and I'm just not seeing it?
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>>431493241
Their dick size is public info
Click on the portrait and it says 16 cm
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>>431493831
oh yeah duh thanks
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HE is release surfer and release Zabu tier broken
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>>431495940
I wouldn't go that far but he is lame as fuck
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>>431495940
Not even close retard.
Literally just play Luke Cage on turn 6 and you win.
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>>431495940
it's a pretty predictable style of deck, you can outplay them just playing in weird lanes. also always kill the misty knight
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>>431495940
HE is not very competitive into the decks that were already popular at the time of his release. if everyone didn't jump on him at the same time for mirrors he'd be losing nonstop.
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>>431496063
then you're just giving him a free abom, gotta play him on 3 or 4 at the latest
the real problem I see with him is that he promotes the same garbage playstyle nebula does, put a bunch of crap that grows down early and make the game unplayable
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Dumb bitch
For the record I got galactus out of the raft
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>queue into HE deck
>don't have Luke Cage
>lose
this is going to kill the game
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>>431497029
Hulk is by far the most broken card in HE.
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Leech should deactivate HE if he gets hit
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Alright, what do you guys think he played mid on turn 4?

He retreated before my Venom finished killing my 2 hulks, so I'm really curious as to what he was playing and why he left.
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>>431497396
maybe he just thought zola was coming and gave up
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>it's fine a card is effectively a 0/3 3/6 and 4/9 just tech in one card that has no synergy bro
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>>431495940
Release surfer and zabu both shits on HE in terms of disruption and raw power output. Plus they had virtually no counters. Like the best you could do was cosmoing surfer on turn 6 and with zabu by the time you turned him off you already lost.
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Just got a "account does not exist" error wtf
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basic ass destroy with buffed venom and knull feels pretty darn good right now
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Damn I am ass
I keep losing to HE with bounce. I just can't seem to call where hulk is going
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>>431500356
Hitmonkey, moon girl and kitty aren't bounce. And any mysterio interaction is sera.
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Nimrod needs to be nerfed so that only the players destroy cards can affect him and I can still shang him so that he can't multiply. he's basically unbeatable once he's shuri'd + destoryered
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>shuri decks dumping a million stats over 2 turns
>into dawkhawk dumping a million stats on 6
>into HE dumping a billion stats on 6

nice depth to this game, very talented developers
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I know my account is bricked because for over 2 weeks now I only pulled Arkim zola from the raft, and I never can get to put it to good use. It just happened again, and just the other day it happened yet again, too. It's endlessly which is why I'm sure, my soul is bricked.
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>still not a single dracula counter in the game because modok exists
Incredible balancing
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>>431488941
No one has ever provided proof of a bot emoting
Show me a screenshot of an opponent with an impossible split emoting
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HE card abilities need to be absolutely gutted. They are FAR too fucking strong.
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>>431503107
only the old bots have impossible splits. the devs already confirmed they added emoting bots and that's why snazone updated their bots article.
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>>431503237
HE himself needs to be 0 power, hulk should be +1, cyclops should be -1 per mana saved, up to a max of 2, and wasp just needs an entirely new ability, her being a 0/3 is insane.
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Obvious bot and the manipulated location for this particular bot.
He also played cow and discarded his modok on turn 5.
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>>431503237
>>431503858
God what decks are you two facing? Anytime I play HE it's close.
It must be a skill issue (for me)
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>>431504368
Literally anything other than Destroy/Cage decks get dogged on by HE right now.
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I swear man, how he knew?
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>>431504429
Dracula doesn't. Hela doesn't. Bounce doesn't.
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why is jeff good in galactus decks?
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>>431504840
Well I guess it's over.
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>>431504909
Put him in a lane, then move him the turn you play Galactus there. It's stupid but it works sometimes.
Also Prof X and Spider-Man counter
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Why play this rigged game?
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>>431504840
>>431505039
Uatu
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>>431505527
Why do I get matched with a nebula lock guy right into a match where morag is a featured location? I'm just a puppet meant to lose to that guy? Is that how this work? It's all predetermined? I'm just playing a role here where they string me around, place me wherever they want and use me for whatever purpose the algorithm wants?
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>>431505883
no, they're just telling you to play killmonger
anyways that strange academy on top of it is kinda bullshit ngl
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>>431506114
If I had killmonger, employee brainlet, I wouldn't be in that match.
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>>431505314
>Every digital TCG is rigged
Fuck that shit I don't wanna go to my LGS to play a real card game
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>>431506192
he's like a series 2 card, he should be in your collection
if not please contact customer support
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>>431506324
If I was playing killmonger, I bet they would match me against a galactus.
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>>431505883
This extends far beyond the game. You're describing all of life.
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>>431505235
>Put him in a lane, then move him the turn you play Galactus there. It's stupid but it works sometimes.
so... why not play nightcrawler

>Also Prof X and Spider-Man counter
isnt galactus already a spiderman/prof x counter?
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>>431507770
Jeff can go where crawler can't on the off-chance you don't or can't play Galactus
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jesus hela put every discard into the middle lane
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>>431507865
Now you know why its called Hela roulette
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>>431507832
i guess it makes sense. i was just wondering if there was some synergy i wasnt aware of with jeff before i dumped 6k tokens into the little nigga
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>>431508036
As someone who bought Jeff for 6k, unless you REALLY want him or just don't care about any releases in the next month or so, he isn't worth that price.
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>>431508112
You mean better Nightcrawler isn't worth 6K tokens?
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>>431508112
i literally only play galactus decks (please dont bully me)
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>>431507565
so what you're saying is I should killmonger irl
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Some decent variants tonight. But I already have the best black widow and the best Aero variants. I kinda like that Zola or Shang though.
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>>431507770
no its the opposite
galactus loses hard to that because of their telegraphed plays
turn 3 electro means storm in ANY of the two other locations beats the doc oc they play that same turn
early galactus loses to professor X thr same turn and if you do the turn 4 galactus you lose to spiderman unless you play death early
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>Dark Dimension for the next 24 hours
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>>431509170
I kinda like dark dimension
also it cucks galacturd pretty hard
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>>431509071
jokes on you i havent unlocked electro yet
i only have psylock and wave
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>>431509971
based
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>>431509170
Time for Hela
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>>431507770
This fucking retard
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Galactus is for fags
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>>431517017
They just need to rework him or have him only blow up one location or something.
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>discount cost location
>guy is discard
>playing morbious, sid etc
>he plays hela, hela brings up modok, then brings up odin into hela into modok again
>he has 0 cards in hand now
After all this bullshit, I'm still god.
>he topdecks fucking leader
HAHAHA. Now I only need to face all the Zabu, HE and galactus to get my 8 cubes back. Just a couple of -1 -2 -1 -2 -1 -2, perhaps I can win 1 cube, I'm sure getting the 8 cubes back.
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>>431518617
HAHAHA. -2 and ongoing.
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Imagine how good this game would be if devs didn't ruin it.

Like imagine a marvel TCG PVP game where it's actually random draw, random opponents, purely skill based.

No deck based match making, no forced counter match ups, no location fuckery to lock your win rate at a certain level.

Jesus just imagining what this game could be if the devs weren't so fucking jewish.

almost makes me want to cry.

so fucking sad that marvels name is attached to this shit
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>>431519017
This retard managed to fucking lose. But I only got 2 cubes from this bullshit. I need to endure this nightmare every single game and get only 1 or 2 cubes and lose hundreds.
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>>431519176
The kikes won't allow it. Be it burger, nip, chink, gook.
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>>431519282
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>>431519875
That light is me conceding, btw. Yes, guy didn't even need wave, the location just do it for him. No big deal. Just start again and get matched with the next bullshit you're about to face.
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Fucking retard killed his own cards.
>uhhh me monkey me kitty me me me
>me will play monkey and kitty middle the my angela kill my own cards yay
Thank lord they outplay themselves.
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A fucking retard losing to galactus. -2 cubes.
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Reminder that you can and should rope galactus players. It's only fair
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>>431520794
That's a sexy Angela
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>>431521057
By roping them I'm ropin' myself, too.
And even if you rope one galactus, it will be a lifetime mission, since it's one after another.
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>>431521057
I've been getting roped for playing HE. People are starting to turn on him
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Me will play me- me will
Me will play on the right right because I tried to abuse kitty so much I couldn't draw taskmaster
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I bet this guy is proud of himself. This is not new to me, fag.
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Ah, come on. Alright, I was winning too much, wasn't I? I'm so sorry for winning 2 and 1 cubes from a couple games. I need to lose 10 more to make up for the 2 games that I won. I get it.
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Damn, dude. You're an oracle.
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If I were a bad guy, I'd be playing cosmo for the featured location.
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Do you guys think they'll nerf kitty? Or is she balanced by almost the entire playerbase having her?
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I think you need to take a break, anon
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>>431524793
>she hulk unnerfed
>mysterio interaction with bast, monkey etc still going
>faggot uses yondu and knull get the card's power
>they released a new card full of unbalanced effects
There's far more.
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>>431524962
If you play one single match, you need to already take a break. It's like going to a shooting game where everyone is using hack and macros.
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>>431523807
>5 billion different locations that restrict play
>like 3 that punish you for playing into it blind
Stop getting mad that people get lucky after playing nebula into an unrevealed location
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>>431525058
Nah Mysterio is fine
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>>431525550
>free 6 power monkey
>free 9 power
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>>431525747
Yeah nah he's fine.
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>>431525908
Shuri was also fine.
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Mysterio make ya seetherio?
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>>431525964
They're nowhere near compatible lmao
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>>431526091
>handicapped need mysterio and kitty to dumb down the game for him
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do we have any snap streams?
I wanna watch other people suffer
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>>431527582
The ones that protected shuri?
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How do you counter HE ?

I hate when everyone plays one fucking deck.
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New thread
>>431529258
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>>431528724
Luke Cage, Bounce, Destroy or Discard.



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