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>News
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/the-expansion-of-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-has-been-announced

>Latest patches
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-108
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1081

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit
>Weapon AR calculator and frame data
https://eldenring.tclark.io/
https://er-frame-data.nyasu.business/
>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

Group password: erg

Previous: >>422556468
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Whats the best full retard builds that arent melee? Just help me pick something good for a ranged or caster playthrough.
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Patch soon right?
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miquella thread
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patch?
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Some of you invader chads know about how fun it is to crash an item transfer session and loot their shit right? Well... Stay awhile... and listen... To th tale of the Dung Eater and his White Mask
>RL300
>Invading Leyndell Ashenl Capital
>Spawned on Godfrey's stairs
>Host and furled finger are transfering loot
>Grab what I can
>White Mask
>They're going fucking buckwild mashing R1 and spamming AoW
>Run away and equip it
>teabag relentlessly
>host IMMEDIATELY notices I'm wearing it and stops attacking
>drop gold/blood excrement and run away through Marika's bedchamber
>phantom finger when out of sight
>spawn right at fogwall
>drop more bloody and golden excrement
>host and his bud finally notice me
>"You're beautiful" spam
>swap back to Dung Eater Helm
>drop bloody bandages headgear
>run away down the stairs
>host and phantom follow
>host AND furled finger start dropping numen and large golden runes
>grab a stack of ten or so runes
>use them right in front of them
>turn 180 and crouch
>leave blood tainted excrement
>run away up the hill
>they lose patience and murder me
I. AM. THE DUNGEATER. I WILL KILL AGAIN. AND DEFILE EACH CORPSE WITH CARE
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>>422630337
80 int, 60 vigor, however the fuck much you want in mind, blast everything to smithereens.
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>>422630378
he's seething because he has no friends
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>>422630337
Assuming you picked it all up in a previous playthrough, you can just do dragon spells and lightning incantations.
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I accidentally picked up the +8 halberd on my low level invader I was making. What is the lowest rl you think I could get away with?
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I was pissing myself laughing. This was my finest hour. I have never EVER had a better invasion. Legit. I'll think about this for years. Only better thing would be if I BTFO them really easily instead of dying at the end.

>>422630550
Reminder: Never pay ransomers. It's a retarded plan.
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okay so im starting a Journey 2 but im kind of sick of using the Bloodhounds Blade, any recommended weapons I could try and switch to? I did all the remembrances and explored most of the map on Journey1 so just assume I have all weapons

this is the Status im working with
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>>422630651
Well, with a +8 regular you invade down to +5 at the lowest, which typically means most hosts are faffing around Liurnia.
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Malenia thread
Malenia board
Malenia DLC
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1.09 next week right?
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>>422630337
int
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I'm sorry, bros, Radahn's set just isn't /fa/
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>>422630605
imagine defending hosts who let others play the game for them
and now imagine me suicide bombing you
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bro what the fuck is with the lag when youre invading someone
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>>422631462
BRs
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Red man bad
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>>422630050
If a mechanic is allowed, its intended and okay to use. You're not playing the game 'right' by self imposing handicaps to artificially create more difficulty.
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>>422631643
>not summoning a max-level password summon who easily and effortlessly cleaves through everything while you sit back and watch = self imposing handicap that artificially creates more difficulty
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>>422632147
Its not wrong, just preference. Summoning in general is okay and so are spirit ashes. If someone wants to steamroll its their choice.
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Elden Ring is literally the worse pvp in the franchise. I mean only able to invade host who want to be invaded, what the fuck were they thinking.
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>>422631643
salty redfags just mad they have no friends to play with, therefore, they go out of their way to ruin the experience for others
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>>422632306
>comparing using spirit ashes to summoning another player who can do and use everything on their max-level char
Not even saying this from an invader's perspective, the people that do this are genuinely robbing themselves of a good experience by letting their summons do everything for them
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Can you do infinite respecs in this game by backing up save files like in DaS3?
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Which unique INT weapon synergizes the best with your INT casting spells? It doesn't need to be broken, just have good flow
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>>422632306
It's easy mode and you're barely even getting the experience of playing the game, but it is their choice.
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>>422632769
I did this game entirely through the seamless co-op mod with 2 friends, AND we sometimes used spirit ashes even though its not supposed to be possible while in normal co-op. And it was a blast.
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>>422632854
You absolutely can yes
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>>422632935
Crystal sword
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should I do a NG+ or should I just bite the bullet and do a New character like the Samurai guy
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>>422632978
Did you do that for your first and only playthrough?
If so, it makes sense why you're boasting about having someone else play the game for you
If not, why are you even responding
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>over a year later
>this still has not be explained yet
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bro if a host and his phantoms t-bag my corpse one more time I'm going to
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>>422633290
cheap b8
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>>422633290
Godrick the Grafting
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>>422633363
https://vocaroo.com/15E86sdT5pEe
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>>422633223
Im joining the conversation telling you that its not nice to call other people's fun fake
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Is it just me, or are Elden Ring players way more into roleplaying than in previous games. Not that I'm complaining. It's kind of cool seeing the summon pool filled with interesting names and builds.
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>>422633472
I think it's just because now we can change our player names free of charge, before this we either couldn't do it at all or it was limited like respecing
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The DLC was a lie wasn’t it
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>>422633472
You aren't wrong. It's a cool thing desu. No other game I remember had so many thoughtfully made characters. Us RP/Cosplay chads used to be 1/20 gigachads. Now we're like 1/10.
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>>422633449
Is that the actual voice actor?
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>>422629756
>delayed attacks
Skill issue.

>>422632978
If you had this much fun not getting challenged, then you would probably have the same amount of fun playing Genshin or some shit.

>>422633472
There's definitely more people doing themed builds with lore-appropriate names than in previous games. Of course, the extent to which they stick to said theme or lore tends to vary, but still an improving trend.
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>>422632935
The answer is always Wing of Astel.
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>>422633732
Genshin is a fun game too yes. Being contrarian and hating everything isn't cool.
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>>422633457
>pay money to play a game that has based its identity around overcoming hardship and adversity through your own strength and wit
>end up literally letting other people take care of any and every kind of hardship you come across
It'd be like buying a hentai game, ignoring the hentai, and saying you had "fun" with the barebones basic story that only serves as a cheap reason for the hentai to happen
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>>422632854
>>422633014
Wait, you can..?
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>>422633290
It's Godrick, grafting. What's there to explain?
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Would Ranni keep sucking after you blow your load?
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>>422633974
>>422633439
looks nothing like him and it wasn't in the game
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>>422634025
oh god i hope so
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>>422634025
nope. she'd cast a genlte chilled air spell on your wet cock and make a joke about feeling the "chill of her night"
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>>422634080
It was when he just started to graft
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>>422633732
I'll be honest bro I mostly play elden ring for the melee wizard power fantasy, the nice artstyle of the world it's just the cherry on top
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>>422630238
Whose the fat guy right of ranni in armor?
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>>422634229
(You)
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>>422633921
So why did they allow co-op and ashes if they go against the spirit of the game?
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>>422631456
It is the duty of the strong to protect and aid the weak
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>>422633921
It's more like buying a hentai game and then jerking off to it with your buddies, which is a thing all of us have done at one point. Just like invading is cumming on another dude's screen before he gets to his favorite girl.
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>>422634304
they will forever stay weak and never grow strong if all they do is hide behind their password summons
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>>422634304
It is the duty of the strong to exploit and bully the weak
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I HATE BOSS DOOR INVASIONS I HATE BOSS DOOR INVASIONS
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why are str/dex at 53 and not 50 here?
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>>422634080
>looks nothing like him
Did you miss Godrick's tiny, shriveled real original torso and head left in the boss arena, the one that Gostoc is stomping on?
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>>422634385
it's more like buying a hentai game and letting your friends jack off to it while you sit in the corner and watch while not jacking off
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Will patch 1.09 save us anons?
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>>422634930
53 . 1,5 = 80
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For anyone curious, I went through Stormveil Castle while tongue'd and solo just for fun. Here's the invaders I ran into.

First guy is pretty much exactly what you'd expect.
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>>422634448
doth not the flower protected from the storm grow not twice as high?
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>>422635243
Then I got invaded by someone just RPing as a harmless granny. She just kinda wandered around my world and left. No idea what she would have done had I attacked her. She also invaded a second time.
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>>422635243
This invader likely fights against 3 guys all doing that same cheese shit all the time
But yeah doing all that shit against a lone host is fucking lame
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>>422635243
haha get tea bagged lmao
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>>422635751
it doesn't if the protectors are so scared of the storm they inadvertently shield the flower from the sun
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>>422635752
This happened the moment the granny left. My damage is fucking garbage against these builds, but I really should have stuck glintstone pebble on this halberd when I bought it, would have helped.
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>>422635243
>>422636238
It's honestly no wonder newbies ask their friends to carry them through shit when this is the kind of invader they encounter.
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>>422636432
You say that but the only way to encounter an invader is to have a friend in the first place
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>>422636070
like in all things balance is the answer
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The dragon knight/slayer is coming along nicely. Only lvl 40 rn. Still got tons of bosses in the pre godrick areas. Gonna see if I can't get in some 1 shots with this maw on these mini bosses.
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dlc had better come with some more and BETTER heavy armor options. fucking sick of bullgoats or bullgoats or bullgoats or poop armor
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>>422636875
Golem armor please Miyazaki
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>>422636238
This guy's probably the only guy I fought that I actually stood a realistic chance of killing. After he teleported away he came right back but just kinda followed me around without trying to fight me. I went down to the Crucible Knight and started attacking it in hopes I could fight both of them at once, and sure enough he joined in (I died).
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>>422636875
Nigga just dress fly and roll. The dlc better have some slooty light armor.
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>>422636578
Random co-op exists
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>>422636432
They'll only encounter this shit if they summon people though
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found where you live in Elden Ring anon
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>>422637053
And the game pushes summoning on you from the very start. Look here, you can meet other players at these co-op pools!
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>keen morning star
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>>422636875
>use ezmode gear
>look like a dumb ass
Whats the problem
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>>422636981
The Crucible Knight 1v2 in question.

I forgot to mention when this guy came back he dropped me some items, but I didn't pick them up.
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>>422636994
i amend my post. add slutty heavy armor
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Thorns>horns
Fite me
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is there any kind of database for character appearances/sliders?
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>>422637339
Good on ya. Never pick up anything from people you don't know, especially if you're on PC.
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>decide to turn on the blue ring against my better judgment while making a build
>You are being summoned to another world...
>spawn at the bottom of the beach in Limgrave, intuition tells me it's a gank, but I ignore it
>run up to Church of Elleh, see the host
>it's some retard in crucible knight armor who's spamming CE'd sleep bolts with the pulley crossbow
>but the invader is a bull-goat pot twink, no doubt using his physick to light roll for 3 minutes
>fuck it
>hardswap from pickaxe to great epee for a single running R2
>it hits run as the host sleeps the pot twink and hits his punish
>guy gets 1 shot
>teabag over his fading corpse and reverse backstep with the host knowing full well I did literally nothing
You better believe I'm not going to help a fucking loser invader like that, cheating twink host or not.

>>422635243
Yeah, it's bad. I seriously have no respect for people who don't know when to tone it down with the metafaggotry.
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>>422637339
This guy only fought me for a few seconds before he just left all on his own. Which is good because I had no flasks left anyway.

Also people seeing me, being confused that I'm alone/not camping a grace and clearing a level, and often leaving afterwards is fairly common. This isn't the first time. I guess no one else plays this way.
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>>422636238
>base requirements naginata with heavy armor and VIG gouge
it's all so tiresome
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>>422638090
I’d honestly be saltier over a twinked out dual vyke dyke bowing than throwing shit and tea bagging me
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>>422638226
I’ve tried taunter’s tonguing before and have had several people drop me runes and other gifts before severing, especially if they see me actively fighting the mobs
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>>422638226
And then I got IMMEDIATELY invaded by this guy after the first guy left. I actually find back to back invasions with the tongue pretty rare, at least for me.
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>>422638304
>invade a duo
>a blue shows up almost immediately, it's a 3v1
>rivers, moonveil, stars of ruin, the worst of the worst as far as ganks are concerned
>die
>the blue fucking bows
nothing tilts me more man I'd rather he just spammed crouch
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>>422633950
no you're being trolled
if you replace saved u get banned
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>>422638820
After that this happened. I'm kind of upset I didn't nail that second to last parry.
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>>422639462
And then the last invasion was this guy. I'm kind of upset, I went up the ladder because I specifically wanted him to start shooting at me, but it turns out explosive bolts make it basically impossible to miss someone climbing a ladder even if they try to dodge it.

So all in all that was 9 invasions in total. Out of these 9, only 1 was someone who teabagged/pointed down after killing me. And maybe like 2-3 of them had builds that were way too strong for the area. Honestly not as bad as I was expecting. Also I didn't kill a single one of these 9 invaders, because I'm shit.
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>>422632854
yeah
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>>422638847
I had a co-invader heel turn against me earlier today and that motherfucker had the gall to bow after raping my ass. I had the opportunity to reinvade the same host and you bet your ass I had my rope shit grenades on the hotbar for when I dumptrucked that reduvia spamming faggot.
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>>422640028
>because I'm shit
Also because you have like zero upgrades on your weapon, like seriously, is it +0?
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>>422630337
>>422630556
>>422631281
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>>422640154
>dying to reduvia
oof
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I just want some jolly ng+ co-op without going to ng+ before the DLC. fuck.
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>>422640160
you can upgrade weapons?
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>>422640335
At least they leveled vigor SOME, 40 vigor is honestly more than I see regularly on these Kevins
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This one isn't pvp related, I just found it funny. I had no idea jumping on a troll's face caused it to...whatever this is. It played the stance break sound and it flinched.

>>422640160
+3 is my max. I was using a +0 weapon in some fights but I ran out of stones before I could upgrade it and didn't want to use the ones I had for pvp. But I think the thing that would have made a bigger difference would have been if I had stuck an elemental ash on one of them instead. But looking at my +3 short spear and comparing it to the AR of my +0 halberd, I'm not sure if the upgrade level itself would have gotten me any kills here.
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>>422640427
I honestly can't tell if you're serious. Yes, you can upgrade stuff to max +3 at the anvil near Kalé in the Church of Elleh, and later normal weapons to +25 and somber weapons to +10.
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>>422640575
dealth 1 dmg to his face by jumping. any hit to the face makes that happen.
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>>422640575
Trolls are extremely sensitive to damage to the face, any hit at all will stagger them.
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>>422640575
isn't there some item/npc that talks about trolls being weak in the face or something?
>>422640585
nah i'm just playing
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>>422640575
Doing a jumping attack to the top of those flame spewing machines in Caelid causes an instant death special backstab to them.
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>>422640790
You have to actually hit the vent on top of them though. Also they explode, so don't stick around.
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>>422640714
one of the merchants sells a note that talks about it, not sure which one
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>>422630550
Good shit my man
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Which minor erdtree has the most guardians that I can farm? It's the one in Caelid, isn't it?
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>>422641990
i farmed the ones outside golden axe godfrey ghost i think. it's been a long time so maybe not
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>>422641990
Dragonbarrow has the most
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The DLC WILL have talismans that alternate your movements, right?
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>>422642392
>ninja flipping bull-goat
can't wait
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>replay elden ring many months later
>never really found my weaponfu on my first two playthroughs
>try out a regen build, great stars with prayerful strike
>mfw landing a triple kill hit on mobs literally within like 5 minutes of testing it out and getting ~93% of my hp back
holy shit. this may be love at first sight, lads.
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>>422631456
may allah bring dark hours and disaster upon co-oppers
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jar cannon or ballista, and why
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>>422642505
Now offhand Rykard's sword and equip Taker's Cameo, too.
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>>422643020
Jar Cannon is always better unless you can't meet the wielding or weight requirements.
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>>422643020
Jar Cannon has a higher STR requirement, lower DEX requirement and weights more. If you're okay with hard swapping and have enough STR, Jar Cannon is strictly better.
It also looks cooler.
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>>422635243
NG+ or over leveled. Your data doesn’t count
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>>422643516
Huh? I'm like level 30ish with +3 weapon level.
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>>422632306
>Summoning in general is okay and so are spirit ashes.
Debatable. As long as you summon people within your level/upgrade range it isn't a big deal, and spirit ashes are unusable in most PvP so those don't matter
>If someone wants to steamroll its their choice.
Again, debatable. If the game was solo/co-op only it wouldn't matter if they do that, but unfortunately this isn't a co-op game, it's a PvPvE game where the co-op is an invitation for invaders to invade
Summoning your end-game buddy who can endlessly shit out Elden Stars that actually deal damage while you're at the very beginning of the game doesn't just squander your first playthrough, it also basically forces invaders to be as scummy as they can be because otherwise they literally can't do anything against the password summons
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>>422635243
Jesus christ, that guy. What a fucking scrub.
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>>422643516
>anon deals 95 damage with an r1
>anon 2 claims "ng+ or overleveled"
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>>422644027
I suspect he's someone who just doesn't know what 40 vig looks like and sees a large healthbar and assumes its like level 100. So in other words, a viglet.
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>>422643591
Damn, I saw a shit ton of health and was surprised. I never see that much health on hosts in stormveil
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>>422644314
Its 37+3 (with soreseal) vigor, to be specific. Plus the erdtree favor. I always go 40 vigor before I even look at my other stats.
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is there any point in going to NG+ 2?
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>>422644818
as much as going to NG+ 1
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>>422644818
None whatsoever.
Make a new character, pump VIG, STR and invade at low levels. Join the chad family.
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>>422644905
I pirated
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>>422644934
Well I guess you’ll miss out then
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>invading stormveil for varre's quest
>taunter's tongue host not playing the level, just fishing for duels
>VIG gouge poiseblob spamming running R2 R2 with bloodflame blade spiked caestus
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>>422645026
is invading really that fun?
I was planning to buy the game next month.
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>>422644934
>>422645223
Just play modded until then, I see there's a ton of stuff out there.
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>>422644818
some builds are not great going the organic, normal path.
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>>422644818
There really isn't a point in ever leaving NG
>>422644934
Welp
You should buy it if you can
Join the invaderchads, as family
TOGETHAAAaawwwe will decimate the co-op menace
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>>422645223
No, absolutely not
Messages are fun. Co-op can be fun. Invading is never fun and has not been fun since Dark Souls 2
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>>422645627
You solely grave lorded in ds2 didn’t you?
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>>422645223
I mean, I get hundreds of hours of fun out of invading after I've played the PVE content, but your mileage may wary. There's just nothing else like it, the closest thing is WPVP in MMOs.
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>>422645223
It's a blast
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>>422645223
It's ludokino, as the kids say
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>>422646143
man i wish it were actually possible to find 2v2s like that, its so incredibly rare but its the funnest thing ever when it happens
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>>422645627
>invading
>dark souls 2

uhh no? ds2 had the bell tower which was fun and fcs were decent but invading was fucked from the start with having to grind for orbs and soul memory. almost nobody did it. ds3s was sometimes fun at lower levels and the watchdog and aldrich covenants were a blast. 6 player lobby cap was awesome for fcs. 2 had a decent end game pvp scene but 3 had that too and also the best pvp experience in the series. dark souls 2 still makes me upset and disappointed with how many bad decisions went into it
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KlLL OMENS. BEHEAD OMENS. ROUNDHOUSE KICK AN OMEN INTO THE CONCRETE. SLAM DUNK AN OMEN BABY INTO THE TRASHCAN. CRUCIFY FILTHY HORN NIGGERS. DEFECATE IN A OMENS FOOD. LAUNCH OMENS INTO THE SUN. STIR FRY OMENS IN A WOK. TOSS OMENS INTO ACTIVE VOLCANOES. KICK AN OMEN IN THE TESTICLES IF THEY HAD ANY. URINATE INTO AN OMEN'S HOME (THE SEWER). JUDO THROW AN OMEN INTO RYKARD'S MOUTH. TWIST OMENS HORNS OFF. REPORT OMENS TO THE GOLDEN ORDER AND OMEN KILLERS. KARATE CHOP OMENS IN HALF. CURB STOMP PREGNANT. TRAP OMENS IN QUICKSAND. CRUSH OMENS IN THE TRASH COMPACTOR. LIQUEFY OMENS WITH ROTTEN BREATHE. EAT OMEN BABIES. DISSECT OMENS ALIVE. EXTERMINATE OMENS IN THE GAS CHAMBER.
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You know you may be a disgusting fursona creature, but we make a good team. yiff on Blaidd, yiff on.
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>>422646143
Yeah, it's a major fucking bummer. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I've only had like 4 or 5 2v2s that were this good in 900 hours of playing. The way that blues work needs to be changed so 2v2s happen way more often.
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>>422646265
Giga-based omenkiller
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>>422646638
>Invade a host with only 1 summon
>Within 10 seconds a blue spawns in
>Invade a host with 2 summons
>Within 10 seconds of me killing one of the summons a blue spawns in
>Invade a lone host, surprisingly, for a change
>Within 10 seconds 2 blues spawn in
Agreed, shit is ridiculous
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>>422646883
1 invader, 1 blue
kill blue, get co-invader
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>make it so solo players can be invaded agani
>but now, if theyre using the ring, the invasion wont happen until matchmaking happens and a blue is also found, spawning both in at once
this seems like a fair compromise
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>occult raptor's talons
>Eleonora's
>regalia of Eochaid
>Millicent's prosthesis
>rotten winged sword insignia
>lord of blood's exultation
What should I have in the last talisman slot for this ridiculous arc build?
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>>422647501
godskin swaddle cloth for hp on hit?
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>yfw the DLC introduces a Physick capacity upgrade
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At this point I've given up on the idea of them balancing or "fixing" invasions at all and am hoping they just add chalice dungeons with PVP or something similarly stupid in the expansion
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waah waah why can't i invade lone rl 20 hosts with my 150 metachad build waah
at least i can seek peace in my hugbox general... wish we gad upvotes and stuff though
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>>422647685
Ehhh, it's kind of shit. I'm mainly using the claws, and it takes 7 hits for it to even proc once.
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ranni fanclub
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>be me
>summon help for boss
>guys show up
>I walk through fog wall
>they start walking through fog wall
>I one show boss
>they arrive
>they leave
You're welcome for the loading screens
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>phoneposter
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>>422630550
Incredibly, almost painfully based. You prevented another white mask shitter, even if only for a little while given the gifter was likely save scumming given the rune stacks. When a white mask fag is inconvenienced all is right and just in the world
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>>422645223
It's not for everybody, and it ultimately depends on what you're looking for out of the game. If you want a challenge and a chance to be a creative asshole, then it's definitely for you. But if you're a guide-reader and only want to play through the game for the experience, you probably won't like it.
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Why does fire giant attack you. Wouldnt he be one that really wants to see the tree burn?
Also why is he all fucked up
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Malenia.
Miquella.
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>>422648917
Some of these are too perfect, you arent changing your randomizer encounters to make a funny are you?
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>>422649114
I exclusively play minecraft for 1.6 pvp. is invading right for me?
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>>422649114
I prefer just using and arc and dabbing on invaders.
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>>422649147
>Why does fire giant attack you.
"Stay away from my flame!"

>Also why is he all fucked up
Last survivor of the war against the giants.
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>>422646604
Careful anon, you might be shittalking blaidd’s appearance now but with that white woman tarnished of yours we both just know what’ll be happening soon enough.
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>>422649152
Nope, just one randomizer seed. I've gotten super lucky getting late game bosses as early game.
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>>422649596
She only fucks 4 legged dogs, I'll be okay until the Academy again.
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>>422649150
Mohg
Miquella
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>>422649670
>stay away from my bro!
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>>422649670
Hes almost the exact size as that skeleton
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>>422649147
The Fire Giant is a survivor of the War against the Giants. Upon realizing the flames of their forge would never die, Queen Marika marked him with a curse. "O trifling giant, mayest thou tend thy flame for eternity."
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>>422646221
>>422646638
Why not go to arena
I invade to set up ambushes and use the level in dickish ways
If I want a 2v2 in an empty room I'd go to the arena
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If I'm doing a knight themed build are there any spells from either school worth using that would fit in line with the theme? I know there's golden order stuff but I want it to be more ordinary knight and those are too paladin-ish.
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>>422650149
Invasions are not duels. I also want to invade/get invaded with ambuses and use the level in dickish ways, but in a 2v2. I mean honestly a 2v3 would be fine too.
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>>422650163
Glintblades, scholars buffs, all the sorceries that turn your staff into a sword
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>>422650163
Any knight would probably enjoy the advantage of enchanting his blade on a whim. So any weapon enchanting spells like poison armament, electrify armament etc. And they're all pretty low investment cost iirc.
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>>422649326
Invading is mostly about taking on unfavorable odds (fighting 2v1 or 3v1 against people who are at least as strong as you) and using your tools and skills to come out on top. There is the asshole element of course, but a lot of the joy also comes from running through an entire level and baiting the host's party into traps and hordes of enemies, and using the chaos and distraction to your advantage.

It's stupidly difficult and unfair and you certainly won't win all the time (moreso if you fight gank squads who try to stack every possible advantage they can), but when you do win the dopamine hit is like nothing else.
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>>422650254
>and use the level in dickish ways, but in a 2v2
You pretty much never get that because the other co-invader always goes straight for the kill. And there is little reason not to when odds are even, desu.
Almost all 2v2s end up quickly being very much comparable to their arena equivalents.
I mean I still do agree with you, but it's not that much of a disparity.
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>Invade some jap and his password summon at Stormveil
>Kill the summon
>Dude just fucking runs around, eventually re-developing his confidence after re-summoning his password summon
>Password summon just dies to the Omen immediately
>Still tries to just fucking run from me and circle the area, never EVER trying to attack me without the help of his password summon
>Eventually sits in the long room between the courtyard and the grafting room, up in the rafters, waiting for me to engage him
>I eventually do so, he runs out towards the courtyard
>Runs around more, I block his password summon when I realize he means to re-summon him AGAIN
>He tries to re-summon, can't
>Runs around some more, attempts to re-summon him AGAIN after it failed
>I blow him up
Humiliation and suffering have been decreed upon you
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>>422650149
>Why not go to arena
>spend 10 minutes finding a match
>my partner disconnects right at the start
>my opponents are clearly a password team with synergizing builds
FFA and duels can be fun but fuck team shit.
>>422638090
Dual Vyke's feels overpowered even at level 80, it must be hell to fight it at Stormveil.
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Praetor Rykard? FBI.
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I actually think I've never encountered a 1v2 I couldn't win, or at least felt relatively fair/not very unbalanced. Its just 1v3s that are fucking crazy, I have no idea what they were thinking doing that. If invasions capped at 1v2 for one phantom and 2v3 for 2 phantoms they'd be 20x more fun.
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>>422649968
>O trifling giant
This feeds into my theory that the Fire Giant is a runt compared to the REAL giants. I mean, look at the mindbogglingly huge skulls littered around Caelid and the Mountaintops.
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>>422651176
1v3 are almost all winnable IMO, it all depends on how and when you engage them
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>password summon is in tree sentinel armor and using moonveil
>a single transient moonlight does 50% of my HP
>get below 50%
>guy just sticks to me without attacking
>if I heal, I'll get hit for 50% of my HP and nothing changes
>if I attack him to get him off me, he out-poises me and I get hit for 50% of my HP and die
What do you even do in this situation? Feint and hail parry?

>>422651040
Does it at least give you serpent-hunter?
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>>422649968
wow Marika dommy mommy'd an entire race of Titans into extinction.
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>>422639462
why do you do no damage, or is this the power of vit gouge
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>>422651398
Quickly turn around like you're gonna turn and burn but then just as quickly turn back, might psyche him out and make him attack on reaction
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>>422651176
Eh, I've run into a few unwinnable 2v1s. It's either people who actually know how to PVP and are ganking with weapons with good synergy or level 713 chinks.
>password phantom poiseblob
>casts elden stars
>casts stars of ruins
>softswaps to dual occult naginata
>bleeds me out in one L1
They're almost all like this
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>>422651398
>Does it at least give you serpent-hunter?
It does, thankfully and the magma doesn't damage you. You're forced to use it though, because he has a nonexistent hitbox if you try hitting him with anything else.
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>>422651398
>if I attack him to get him off me, he out-poises me
>what do you even do in this situation? Feint and hail parry?
Equip something that can poisebreak him, like a halberd or claymore.
Low and mid levels are gayer than meta when it comes to poise blobs because of password summons.
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>>422651780
I was using a CGS. It just wasn't working out. I think I really need to go get night maiden's mist for situations like this, lmao.
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>>422651398
I honestly bank on killing the host.
If I see such person from afar (and you should always try to evaluate who's using what) I just setup an ambush near an elite enemy and try to kill the host. Usually such summons are overzealous and will ignore the enemy in favour of trying to kill me.
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kino
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>180 day ban
>ban supposed to end in May-ish
so the 180 hard ban passes with real time and not ingame time right
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>>422652878
What'd you get banned for?
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>>422635243
Oh no, he's twinking in a game full of overleveled phantoms, the horror
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>>422653003
deliberate use of error items and stuff, wanted to take a break.
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What's a good paladin glamour for low levels/not yet very high endurance values?
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>>422653151
Just slap the bucket helm from Caelid on any vaguely iron or steel armor
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What boss has made you rage the hardest in er or any souls games and did you break a keyboard/batter a female/say gamer words?
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>>422654051
Probably Friede or Malenia.
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How do I get this item that's near the Fingerprint Shield?
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>>422654051
F*re Giant
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>>422654051
Friede
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>>422654235
dw u need the old codger u break the shit
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>>422654051
I called my friend a nigger after beating Godskin Duo
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>>422654051
Gargoyle Duo
I did it with 12 vigor and fashionscape armor (mage). I'm sure I did at least a solid 60-80+ attempts over the span of maybe two days. I beat them eventually with pretty much <%1 health left
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>>422654051
I think the only boss I've ever raged on on any game was the final boss of dragon star arena on eso.
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>>422655014
Actually I've raged a lot playing eso. Soulskiroborne game are super comfy to me.
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>play elden ring
>swing at enemy
>the attack goes right through the enemy, dealing no damage
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>>422655256
Skill issue
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>>422655305
sorry my bad i shouldve just enabled the hitboxes
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>>422655416
finger horse but hole
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>>422655256
>>422655416
I wish there was a sort of replay button you can press that showed you what happened around the time you pressed the button and you could enable hitboxes, collision boxes, etc.
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I miss games having a secret big head mode. That'd be great in er
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>>422655571
the problem is that they start late as fuck into the animation (way after your weapon start gaining momentum), barely extend in length and on the sides and at best it encompasses the blade (grip hitbox not included. ive even seen a clip of someone fighting malenia then they did a heavy attack while being too close to her so it missed and he died because of it.
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>Outside of the chalice dungeons, I personally laid out all the maps in Bloodborne, something I like doing a lot. That connects to the sense of achievement I talked about, too. Adding flow and meaning to the map structure helps provide a sort of joy to the player, the fun of drawing up a map of the land in your mind. That adds value to player actions. Along those lines, it's a really game-like design, I think. I really like that kind of thing.

I get the feeling he didn't do so in Elden Ring. Maybe Stormveil, at most.
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>>422654051
Malenia made me drop the game for a solid month before I came back and beat her, but thats mostly because I was burnt out on the game by the time I reached her.
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>>422655840
It's open world, so no, he probably didn't do that.
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>>422656069
I was thinking something was off with the legacy dungeons too, though. A lot of them lack shortcuts and just rely on you going from grace to grace. Stormveil is the exception, not the rule.
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>>422656157
It's because it suffers from the typical From problem. The starting areas are super detailed while the later areas in the game... not so much. This probably happens with other games, too, but I wouldn't know since I play mostly From games.
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>>422656228
Not entirely true. Raya Lucaria was the first map they made, not Stormveil. I do agree Limgrave is front-loaded as hell though.
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>>422656228
How was Deracine?
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>>422630337
INT, easiest range build imo. So easy it causes retardation. Even if you go pure caster you have access to a variety of melee spells that aren't FP heavy and are relatively quick to cast unlike Faith. It's a good build as long as you have 55+ to 60 vigor at meta level assuming you dabble in online (even if you don't, pump your vig regardless).

>>422640335
God, your Giant-Crusher was blocking your view of that mage on the second Moonveil hit.

>>422653151
>>422653514
Seconded. Bucket helm and any Surcoat, preferably either the Tree Surcoat or the Eye Surcoat for that 11th century crusader knight look. Tree Surcoat is easier to grab since you only need to buy it off of the Nomadic Merchant at Altus Plateau, with the only boss you need to kill to get there is the Magma Wyrm at the end of Ruin-Strewn Precipice going up to Altus.
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>>422655256
>spear running 2hr1
It's so bad that just thinking about it makes me cringe.
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>>422656302
Really? It doesn't feel like it. Raya Lucaria is the 2nd best area in the game for me right after Stormveil. They must have put more effort into stormveil once they knew it was going to be the 1st legacy dungeon the people would find.
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> do low level coop
> summoned for Margit, pretty standard, I have Margit shackle on pouch because I get summoned here so often
> host is Vagabond but with 2H Zweihander, respectable, most are samurai or astrologer
> he doesn’t go through fog, instead points back through tunnel
> starts running away from Margit
> ok, I guess I’ll follow
> wander down the road killing every single enemy in the way
> talk to Roderika
> head east, still killing every enemy we see
> talk to Bernahl
> keep going east, killing every enemy, chest in camp is empty, so host has been here before
> go check on Alexander, but he’s not there, host looks genuinely confused
> cross bridge and clear graveyard of skellies
> Host is actually decent at game, pretty much charge R2’s, then ripostes everything, but his spacing and timing is good, think he got hit once during entire journey
> talk to D, again listening to full dialog, takes long time so no skipping was done
> reach Tibia Mariner
> demolish it very quickly
> host is jumping up and down and doing all kinds of happy gestures
> 20 mins later
> same host summoned me for Patches’ cave
> he obviously leveled STR and or END since he’s one-handing the Zweihander with a shield now
> clear the cave
> host guard counters literally every bandit in there
> host seems confused in boss room, doesn’t open chest, he’s looking around
> attacks the chest
> eventually opens it
> host guard-counters patches over and over, one-handed Collosal swords get lots of hyper armour it seems
> step in to make sure host doesn’t kill patches after he surrenders
> he doesn’t, but seems extremely wary
> Decide to check his PSN profile afterwards.
> Platnium trophy for Elden Ring, both ps4 and ps5 versions
> Platniums in every single souls game, including what I assume is all 3 regional ps3 variants of DeS
> also Platnium in Nioh 1&2, Wo Long, Surge 1&2, Lords of the Fallen, Mortal Shell and Code Vein,

What was his endgame?
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too long not reading
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>>422656228
Bet you didn't even play the Adventures of Cookie & Cream. How can you call yourself a true fan of FromSoft games?
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Jesus bosses melt if you have a guy using Black Knife and another Malikeths weapon and they do their Ash of War. Throw in blackflames there for good measure.
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>>422656838
Just wanted company, I guess?
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why does poker deal less damage than a straight sword?
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>>422657389
it's an L2-stick with a misleading AR rating. the higher your INT the more damage the ash of war does.
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>>422656838
Maybe he took a break and forgot how far he was in that save file.
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>>422657389
Death poker is a very high level weapon. It doesn't shine fully until you're at least level 200 since it's a fucking quality int weapon.
On super high levels it's one of the most powerful things in the game. Same with prince of death staff.
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>>422654051
Blazing Bull.
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how's ma /fa/? think i might farm somma the knights at stormviel castle for their boots and gloves
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Photoanon here, mind if I share some of the picture?
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Can I make a decent invader build at 90 or 120 that makes use of carian spells and triple rings of light?
Completely seperate build idea. How can I make vykes dragon bolt work? I want to be a cool looking red lightning man.
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>>422658814
Cant go wrong with Greathelm. The rest looks alright, nice muddy palette of colors, what are the gloves?
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>>422659052
Knights.
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>>422657508
Nah this was definitely a fresh character. Margit was alive, and D was in Limgrave which means he hasn’t even visited Roundtable yet. But he was acting like he didn’t know anything, but has 100%’d the game twice, as well as 100%ing pretty much every game in the genre.

It did make me realise how poorly placed summoning pools are though, if someone wants help with a open world boss like Tibia Mariner (for whatever reason) then yeah, you have to summon people at Margit and make the whole party walk across entire top half of Limgrave. Some field bosses have summon pools right next to them, and sometimes there’s summon pools with no nearby boss (like before Greyoll, but summon pool is just in a bush and not close to any grace), but then other field bosses have no way to reliably coop them.
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>>422658814
> might farm somma the knights at stormviel castle for their boots and gloves

Banished Knight legs look really bad, I wouldn’t bother. What chest is that, I’m mentally blanking.
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>the higher your level, the less fun the game is
how can a RPG game escape this faith?
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Invaders who show up and just fucking toy with you are the worst. Just go for the host and kill them, don't just follow people around and be a fucking nuisance, never quite killing anyone.
There should be a time limit on invasions, if you haven't killed the host in, say, ten minutes, you just fucking lose.
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>>422654051
The Watchdog in that one half health dungeon in Bloodbrone
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>>422659284
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today I will ignore unnecessary sidequests kill more bosses and make my way to the haligtree without cooping with randoms in raya lucaria because im bored

speaking of, is 60 w+8/s+3 the wrong weapon range for, eh, after raya is the slot im aiming for.
I assumed since my level 11 gets coop in raya that 60 would be altus caelid leyndell for the brave, but no I still get margit sometimes.
I will be invading permanently on this one once I get her katana.
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>>422649019
I don't think it was a mule or cheater though. A couple numens and some golden rune [11] isn't a cheater move. Cheaters just have stacks of Lord Runes.
>>422659434
Get fucked pussy
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>>422659464
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>>422659460
hot dog is easy once you learn the moveset
magma wyrm sort of inherited bits of it (the burning charge)

now, depth 20 rom........... I literally gave up, and Ive beaten lingering will.
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I miss dark souls 2 so much. Fuck any and all enemies that do not fit on your screen, and fuck any and all enemies that get stuck on terrain. Open world bosses were a mistake.
I miss bosses that are dudes in armor.
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>>422659904
fuck this guy
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I just beat Maliketh, but unlocked the hidden path to Haligtree just before. Should I keep going to normal route of ashedLleyndell or explore the hidden path area first?
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I doubt you could even imagine it...
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>>422659802
Elden Ring is full of dudes in armor.
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What the hell is wrong with this guy?
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>>422660097
Go do Halig. Ashen Leyndell is short and the last thing before the final bosses
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>>422660097
Doesn't matter at this point. You should have explored the Haligtree before defeating Maliketh.
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>>422660164
Nothing? He's a living pot. Heat makes them stronger.
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>>422660164
Nothing, he's immune to fire.
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>>422660164
he's a bit cracked
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>>422660097
ash is endgame, go do the "optional" superboss first.
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Seriously thinking about making a base level astrologer run to turn him into a mule for any sort of INT build later
37 INT on level 6 sounds fucking busted
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>>422660187
>You should have explored the Haligtree before defeating Maliketh

oh fuck why
i thought haligtree was the final area befroe i got to pasta fazul or whatever its called
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>no option to talk some sense into Diallos and continue his original goal of sabotaging Volcano Manor from within
>no option to protect Jarburg
>no chance to even avenge Jarburg
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>>422660420
I can't tell you without spoilers, but basically you missed out on some dialog and an incantation.

You should defeat all Shardbearers before Maliketh.
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>>422660542
You can get Gideon's incantations from the Twin Husk if you missed them from him.
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>>422645928
This makes me wish plunging attacks were still a thing
Jump R2s and R1s are fun but they're no replacement for descending from a great height above and delivering judgement pic somewhat related
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>>422660617
I didn't know that, but that's kind of dumb.
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>>422660542
>>422660617
well fuck no wonder he randomly dissipated
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Reminder for anyone still dumb enough to believe AC is getting in the way of Shadow of the Erdtree's development

>4Gamer: Another question I had was if the teams working on Bloodborne and Dark Souls II are completely different or not.

>Miyazaki: They are totally separate teams. At From Software, we have the development resources to work on two so-called “high-end” games simultaneously. Bloodborne is one of those titles, and we've been working on it in parallel with Dark Souls II.
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>>422660723
Nobody cares
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>>422660790
I asked and I care
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>>422660723
>looks at how ds2 turned out compared to bloodborne
ahaHAHAHAHA
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>>422660542
>missed out on dialog because lol sikret area

that's so fucking annoying
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How crazy would it be if you could only access the DLC after beating the game, but before starting your next Journey? And then it actually took your chosen ending into account.
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>>422660824
What I find funnier is Miyazaki considers Dark Souls 2 just as "high-end" as Bloodborne. The man is humble to a fault.
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Why does the Age of Fracture ending even exist? How can you mend the Elden Ring without a Mending Rune of some kind? You should be required to defeat all the Sharbearers and collect all the Great Runes for that. If a player hasn't done that, or hasn't collected any Mending Runes, they shouldn't be able to actually complete the game.
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>>422660865
It's not major dialog.
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>>422659630
That's just it though, they just refuse to fuck the hosts and faff about uselessly, just being an element of annoyance.
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>>422661089
it's still fucking annoying for a game of this scale
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>>422660893
No, they won't do this. Every game progressively made accessing DLC easier and easier. It's probably going to be gated behind killing two shardbearers at most. Although if they want to do something different they will allow you to just access it by fulfiling some requirements like creating dreambrew and getting Miquella's attention.
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Headcanon time: Those Who Live In Death are only fucked up skelemen because Death is outside the Golden Order. Upon using Fia's Mending Rune, TWID become Dark-Souls-style Undead who still look human.
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>get the idea to make a new invader
>go around collecting parts, defeating bosses
>finish build
>lose all motivation to invade
>get the idea to make a new invader
someone
anyone
tell me why
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>>422661179
Every single video game ever has miss-able content if you progress too far in the main story.
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>>422661287
ADHD
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>>422661287
Lost Grace
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>>422661227
>upon using Fia's Mending Rune
*or Goldmasks Mending Rune of PERFECT order
in my opinion. at least, it would make them human again and then not undead(?) I mean, I cast it I assume including all of natures aspects would fix things in this way.
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>>422661202
I really hope there’s no main game progression requirement, I wanna be able to acsess DLC weapons and spells right away on fresh characters. I don’t care if I have to run past or cheese Haligtree tier enemies or bosses. I wanna fight Margit at level 15 with a +0 DLC weapon.

Hopefully it’s just somewhere in Altus, or maybe Siofra (although that would likely be too early game, and tons of clueless new players would stumble in without knowing what was going on)

Mohgwyn palace would be ok, but that still requires 1 shardbearer. If it is at Miquella’s cocoon that would be hilarious, needing to beat Mohg at low level now that all the good glitches have been patched (RIP chainsaw) is not easy. And that’s 2 demigods required.

But I’m worried it’s going to acsessed post Leyndell, which just kills any chance of getting DLC items early. Hopefully not.
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>>422661552
Honestly, I have no idea what Goldmask's ending even entails. It seems very Lawful Evil to me. It makes it so that the Holder of the Elden Ring cannot rebel against the Greater Will, right?
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>>422661323
other games don't try as hard as Souls shit to be 2cryptic4u
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>>422661720
Skill issue
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>>422661720
Barely. You didn't miss out on anything important.
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>>422659340
altered confessor
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>>422660393
It can be 43 with Marika's Soreseal.
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>>422660187
>You should have explored the Haligtree before defeating Maliketh

aren't they both shard bearers
why does this even matter anyway
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>>422661659
>It makes it so that the Holder of the Elden Ring cannot rebel against the Greater Will, right?
no it makes it so NOTHING can change the fixed ring. not "god" not demigods not you not some other tarnished, no one.
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>>422660542
>>422661761
>not important
>ooh spoilers lol
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>>422661868
gideon gives you spells for going to, and defeating the bosses in, haligtree and moghywn
I hope you picked up black flame protect for malenia.
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>>422661868
>aren't they both shard bearers
No.

>why does this even matter anyway
After defeating Maliketh, Gideon leaves the Hold.
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>>422661917
Because this whole mess started because Marika started fucking with it right?
That's the impression I got anyway.
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>>422661986
In English, sir?
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jesus christ the shit in this thread fully justifies me having multiplayer turned off. i just want to play my video game in peace. we can be sweaty pvp tourneyfags AFTER i beat the game once.
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>>422661287
I did this and now I'm up to 20+ builds with a still a few more ideas in my head but I'm gonna hold off until dlc
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>>422662069
no the GW created infinite iteration which created cursed demigods, which lead to marika removing death, for some reason probably involving godwyn.
may chaos take the-ehem.....so you want to repair the ring properly and include everyone so there is no more conflict, then lock everyone even yourself out of fucking up again.

the way I see it its like the 33 orb ending in noita. fracture would be turning the world to gold....either way. (noitas know why this is a bad)
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>was going to do Haligtree before Maliketh
>decided to do Maliketh first
>lol you fucked up

this made me drop the game last year desu
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>>422662218
what do you lose if you kill maliketh before doing haligtree?
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>>422662218
ngl I did my best not to spoiler myself, but I absolutely read all the sidequests ahead of time.
fuck am I doing ng+2 to get dung eater puppet, spells that would have been locked behind dead people, missing things. I have too much OCD for that.

and despite that, I still explored everything manually and had alot of fun along the way, and only checked that I didn't go too far.
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>>422662143
what so hard to understand
if it's not important why is it considered a spoiler
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>>422662206
I don't think we have enough solid information about all the moving parts here.
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>>422662218
no not one line from gideon...
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>>422662064
>>422662035

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>>422662402
well yeah it is headcanon. I treat the outer gods or more specifically the concept of the elden ring like domains, or aspects, in DnD. Death was removed, causing infinite life, too much life, cursed life....and then the intro begins.
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is it even ever made clear that maliketh is a point of no return
i honestly thought haligtree was the last area not an optional one
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>>422662492
its better to have than a text pop-up after beating maliketh saying the bitch at rountable has new shit for sale and him just randomly fucking off

it's shit design
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>>422662580
pretty sure melina tells you outright at the forge that you have a one way trip (you can still warp before you beat dog though)
the medalion for the haligtree is "missable" and the quest that goes from raya to the mountains should have been a pretty good hint.
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>this is what a master sorcerer looks like
Yeah, I think I'll go with incantations for my next playthrough instead of sorceries.
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>>422635751
>>422636070
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>>422662684
agreed
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>>422662736
There are different types of sorcerers
A cool one is uncle Jerren who is literally a wandering eccentric battlemage
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>>422656838
>all 3 regional ps3 variants of DeS
you found john dark souls himself
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>>422662492
what's the one line then
why care about spoilers
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>>422663018
I don't think Jerren can really be called a sorcerer, he only casts one spell.
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>>422630550
Love it. I like approaching quietly when it's obvious both parties are in their menus and just waiting for a glowing yellow goodie to appear on the ground for the yoinking. Had a guy sending furious hatemail last night after I stole his godskin peeler and Lionel helm
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>>422663614
post it
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>>422663614
>had a guy sending furious hatemail
show
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>help random at godrick
>sends message thanking me saying he was stuck on that boss for 4 days
4 days man... seriously...
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>>422663970
How? Margit is harder.
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>>422663536
Jerren is a witch hunter...
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>>422663970
this is why i invade
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>>422630238
Would it really be that bad a thing to 'accidentally' shove Seluvis off a cliff?
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>>422663970
people get stuck on godrick? lmao
I beat him first time every time, even on my level 11.
>>422663989
margit is harder than morgott if you level up at all.
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>>422663996
meaning he hunts witches
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why are most of the quests so ass and have shit endings?
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>>422664231
small indie company
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>>422664231
pls understand
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>>422664231
ER is actually their happiest game in terms of NPC endings
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>>422664498
happy ending =/= good ending
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>>422664498
Nah not really no
Almost all of the NPC we met die horrible deaths
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Ruins GS brought to you by: Storm Wall parry on crucible knight

Suggest other Great or Colossal weapons
I am already using: Lion's Claw Greataxe, Broadsword (for sword and board), Rusted Anchor (will probably swap for the Pickaxe)
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>>422646265
I sense possible hostility...

Do we ever see female Omens? Logically there should be some. I wonder how they'd be as girlfriends or waifus. And if you could survive sex with them.
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>decide to co-op for a change
>get summoned at the grand cloister
>Host needs help with the tree spirit
>start fighting and get it to 30%
>realise that host is literally hiding while I'm doing all the work
>go next to him and get him killed
>he summons me again and he hides again
Bro...
what is going through those people's head ?
Anyways he died during astel and i was acting like i was fighting the boss
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>Invading another world...
>spawn in the middle of Liurnia
>2 phantoms and a host staring in different directions emoting like a Christian rock album cover
>sever
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>>422664670
watch dogs big staff
no int? no problem

I want to recommend this, but its not as good as the pizza cutter in bloodborne.
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>>422665181
its clearly a finger...
oh shit, its clearly a finger, what does it mean?
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If Miyazaki modeled NPCs after big content creators for Elden Ring (Gideon = vaati) who is Dung Eater?
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>>422665745
me
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Malformed armor resembling an Omen with its horns cut off.

Worn by the Dung Eater. The heavy, sun-shaped medallion represents both the guidance he once saw, and the ring to which it will one day lead.
>how do they know what the sun is when the erdtree is the sun
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>EAC breaks out
>verify integrity of game files to fix it
>average FPS drops from 60 to 30
????????
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>>422665798
Look dude they forgot to code in the Sun
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>>422665798
read sun realm shield, and everything related to nox. and the fell god spell.
tldr: the sun has faded
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>int has literally 1 weapon
inb4 wing of trashtel
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>>422665573
Literally all they had to do is to make it a halberd and give all attacks a multi hit property. Then it would potentially eclipse the pizza cutter itself
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>>422664670
Swap Lions Claw Greataxe for a Lions Claw Greathammer (any will do), very similar moveset but a lot more poise damage.

Greataxe Lions Claw does 33 poise damage. Greathammer Lions Claw does 42 poise damage. Since a lot of bosses have 80 poise, or 120 poise, that’s a significant difference. One less Lions Claw to poise break.

Although a Giant Crusher or Prelates Crozzier do 45 poise damage on Lions Claw, so they are even better. Although weight and stat requirements are huge for a pretty small poise damage gain.
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>>422665972
what weapon?
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>>422665972
>int has literally 1 weapon
im ok with this

>>422665993
the L2 just needs SOME hyper frames. not wild strikes but some.
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>>422666017
alabaster lord’s sword
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>>422654051
Mohg made me break my keyboard and charmless Genichiro made me put a dent in my PC case
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>>422665972
Darkmoon Greatsword
Claymans Harpoon
Bastards Stars

I assume your post was in reference to Moonveil. And there’s nothing wrong with Wing of Astel.
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>>422666183
>dogshit midsword
>gayman’s hartroon
>anons stars
LOL
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>>422666183
I forgot about the solar system on a stick, its nebula is better than the wing.
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>>422665798
Reminder that Dung Eater is an Omenaboo
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>>422666360
this just raises further questions, who the fuck is he really?
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>>422666264
Death ritual spear
Royal greatsword
Helphen steeple or whatever it's called
Also literally so many weapons infused with cold are int weapons
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>>422666360
Trans-Omen, if you will.
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What's the strongest PVE build I could reasonably make at RL25? Feel like doing some Stormveil co-op
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>>422666446
>Free jump R2 Ritual Spear
>Free Backstab Greatshit
>Help, i'msheeple
These are good copes... but what's really happening is every mage casting the same 3 spells they've been using since launch.

Launch of demon's souls that is. LOL.
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>>422665972
moonveil
dark moon
wing of astel
bastards stars
onyx and ivory lord swords
clayman harpoon
carian sword
crystal sword
rotten crystal sword
crystal spear
rotten crystal spear
crystal knife
lazuli glintblade
deaathrite spear
helphen steeple
troll knight sword
radahn paired swords
ruins greatsword
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>>422665675
It means nothing because the blue outline is absolute bullshit. It does not follow the land at all.
It means as much as pic related.
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I-i think l-launching shock frost waves w-with dark moon is cool...
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>>422665972
int has better and cooler weapons than fth :(
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>>422666667
>shitsticks
It's just funny that they put in all these godawful weapons to troll mages into wasting stats.
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>>422665972
Cold Misercode / Cold Parrying Dagger
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>>422666835
I think launching my cock in your ass would be cool
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>>422666445
NPCs with their armor removed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu_Q9TwF5Xc
Dungeater looks better with his helmet on.

(Tanith is a surprise. Patches can pick them, after all.)
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mage niggas be like
>yo rate the build bro.. i took 60 out of mind and put it into vig this time
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>>422665798
The sun is the sun, anon. The game world has a sun that travels across the sky. The erdtree isn't the sun. You can watch the sun set over the coast of the weeping peninsula in the evening. It's gorgeous.
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>>422667098
gideon looks like the old guy from power rangers lmao
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Man. I really hope they bring Melina back for the expansion. Do you think they will?
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>>422667187
Imagine the faces of metaniggers once DLCs comes out and all normies will start hitting level 200 just by playing casually
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What are the poise breakpoints again?
I booted up a character I haven't touched in months and they have 81 poise for some reason. Does this number mean anything?
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>>422665972
have you ever blown someone up with death poker?
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>>422667098
Messy sex hair Millicent was better than her regular hair
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>>422667553
They won't "bring her back" if he's dead but they certainly can expand her role
For example make it so that Miquella was the one to ask her to look after us
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>>422667607
speaking of such MAGIE, the perfect metaslave? methinks yes.
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>>422667607
Since 150-200 is the vastly superior range, I think it'll be a strict improvement across the board.
The DLC launch patch is probably going to rescale stat investments the way that DaS3's did, to shift the level curve up and compensate for the extra runes gained from the DLC content.

My guess is that the damage from going up to 80 in a damage stat is gonna go way up, and our max health will increase by 2-500 to compensate
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>>422667553
Considering the promo image had a shota miquella not COCOONED I'd say it's likely that the DLC will be set before the events of the game, or otherwise in a world that doesn't have direct continuity with our game progress. So we're likely to meet a lot of characters--even ones who died-- under different contexts.

We're probably also going to meet Shabriri in a different body.
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can we get some actually fucking deadly dragons that are fun to fight?
the only good ones were Placidusax and Zombie Dragon
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Who's the Boris Yeltsin of the Lands Between?
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>>422668809
DLC will introduce a blood and frenzy dragon :)
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>>422654117
>>422654361
>friede
How? You could literally run behind her and chain backstab her to death.
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>>422668818
Yeltsin plays himself
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>>422654051
unironically Dungeater and that FUCKING CRAB who pushes him towards you
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>>422668229
The safest bet about DLC is a dream world, or some sort of collective consciousness that exists as a spirit world with Erdtree being its main server. Which means they can mangle different eras and people all into one DLC like Bloodborne did it, and Ringed City too, to some extent.
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Consider:
Miquella's consciousness is currently residing within the Death Prince. He entered Godwyn's dreams in an attempt to sooth his suffering and assuage the spread of the deathblight, knowing that he was likely not going to return. Then his empty empyrean body was remanded to the Haligtree to serve as its lifesource.

This is why Mohg's offerings have had no effect on the cocoon. Miquella simply isn't there, it's an empty shell. It's also why Malenia's behaviour seems so weird. She's not waiting for the cocoon to magically sprout legs and wander back to her; she knows the cocoon is just an empty shell. She's waiting for Miquella's consciousness, trapped in the eternal deathless sleep of Godwyn, to return to the Haligtree. During her cutscene, she's not looking at the empty space where the cocoon belonged, she's looking at the Trina-shaped tree growth that grew around it, waiting for a sign that Miquella's spirit has returned.

The promo image features an Erdtree in an unfamiliar locale that is emphatically not Leyndell, being engulfed by deathblight root growths. This is a symbolic image. The world depicted is a dreamworld, the 'erdtree' there is Godwyn, shackled by the death curse symbolized by the deathroot growing around it.

The DLC world will be a mashup of several 'eras' of time simultaneously using dream logic to string together the incongruous time continuity, just like BBs. The reason it's taking so damn long and being billed as an 'expansion' rather than From's usual DLC is because this dream world will be a full-sized series of open world areas, probably about 1/3 the size of the vanilla game world. And undoubtedly there will be changes to the vanilla game map as well--if the DLC is a dreamworld then we'll probably get an item for entering dreams and have several smaller dream bits throughout the game to enter, sort of like the Mist Heart from DaS2.
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>>422669015
i never saw the iconic crab
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>>422668909
>Elder Dragon shooting eye laser beams
Fucking dope
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>90% of invaders use dual cold/bleed naginatas or lances
You rike?
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>>422638820
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>>422638090
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>>422636981
>>422636238
>>422635752
>>422635243
Are you playing on PC, anon? Between co-invading and my own experiences in co-op, these dudes are souped up to a very uncommon degree. In fact most invaders are varre's quest shitters who insist on honor dueling ganks or fighting their own teammates.
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>>422669084
I legit almost broke my controller
>go after crab
>get hit by dungeater
>go after dungeater
>get hit by crab
>auto lock on locks on to the little crabs or the fucking swamp dragon flies
>>422669221
>poison moth flight blood infusion antspur rapier
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>>422669221
no they arent, every time i coop the invader is a literal tard
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>>422666680
>it's clearly a penis
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>422669261
I'm only two of those, and they were on PC, yes
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>>422668946
This is emphatically untrue. Yes, you can backstab her, but she only ever leaves herself open to backstabs after certain animations, and tracks well enough that you can't just sprint around her attacks.
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>inb4 wing of trashtel
>he doesn't know
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>>422667098
>Sellen most replayed
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>>422669261
Stormveil is the twink mecca. In specific level ranges you will find the consistently sweatiest invaders there just because it's the most consistently active area between The First Step and the literal end of the game and is also infested with ganksquads abusing level 700 password summons or 'duelists' abusing matchmaking to twink beyond anything invaders are allowed to be. The competition drives invaders to rabid degrees of sweat and minmaxing

But of course red man bad because he doesn't magically sense that my intentions are totally innocent (+3 extra upgrades and 20 levels :^)) and sandbag to make me feel good about myself.
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>>422669453
>you can backstab her, but she only ever leaves herself open to backstabs after certain animations
Yeah like half of them, you just run to the side for the other half. You can kill her with just holding the B/O button.
I never understood how people had trouble with her, she's arguably the easiest DLC boss we ever had. Really fun fight and OST but very easy on repeat.
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>>422669751
what lvl for stormveil coop, sounds more exciting than max level which is FUCKING DEAD
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redders dindu nuffin, dey good boys
dey just needed some runes for raya lucaria n shiet
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>>422654051
I mostly feel humbled when facing hard bosses. What makes me rage is walking off ledges like a retard.
>>422669015
>>422669323
this fucking crab killed me once while I was talking to boggart
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>>422669751

>>422669261 t. rl10-40 invader. I can say with absolute earnestness that level 60 lake ganks are worse than anything stormveil has to offer, and my level 10 build is just a bow and arrow, versus the absolute hardswapping poisemonster that my level 60 guy is.
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>>422670136
Reds exist to balance your carried ass
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>>422669015
>use a bewitching branch on the crab as he surfaces
>watch on as he solo's Dung Eater by breaking his spine with a pincer attack
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>>422669656
whats wrong with the wing? did they nerf it? i actually dont know yes
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>>422668968
... that's Gorbachev
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>>422670568
The original poster implied it's trash, the response you were replying to implies it's not.
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>>422670836
brainfart moment
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>>422670209
>Rya goes into hibernation!
>You have no choice but to cuddle her until your body heat revives her.
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>>422670568
Wing is so fucking good for literally everything because of the FPless r2 beams. They're fast enough to reaction rollcatch from longer range than any proper melee attack, which applies enormous pressure in pvp on top of just being great damage-wise.
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reddit moment
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>>422670983
ye its pretty good
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>>422670983
you'll never kill me with it
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>>422669221
Anon we have a guy showing 10 different tongue invasions and we know that is not the case.
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Do people seriously level up their vig higher than 9?

Why? Why wouldn't you just pump Int and one-shot everything? You guys are weird. I have 9 vig right now and I simply never get hit. Have you tried using the roll button?
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>But what if...
>I were to deliberately seed misconceptions about a weapon's strength for no reason
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>>422671587
this but unironically
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I regret buying Elden Ring. Its fun but not $60 worth of fun. Too bad I have 51 hours in the game so I can't get a refund.
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>>422671220
*sheathes moonveil*
You are already dead
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>>422654051
Had some choice words for Manus in ds1 after too many combos in a row. Malenia was hard, but she never made me angry. Honestly, Commander O'Niel and the Gargoyle Duo are the two that really pissed me off with how stupid their fights were. Late game Elden Ring just gets really silly with enemy health and damage that I can only really get mad if I think the enemies aren't fun or satisfying to fight.
Same reason I don't like fighting Burial Watchdogs, Gargoyles or Royal Revenants. Malenia is hard, but she's satisfying to fight. They are not.
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>>422670209
New chapter?
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>>422671587
>Why wouldn't you just pump Int and one-shot everything?
I tried that on my level 200 against radagon, it doesn't work. he will one shot you while you are in a charging animation (99 int and mind)
to be fair, I was just trying to spam meteor, but I tried not spamming meteor and it still sucked.
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What's the practical difference between light and medium equip load?
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Is there still a decent amount of organic invasions or is it all radahn beach/liurnia lake ganks?
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>>422671692
>no repfunds
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>>422671862
Light goes almost double the distance.
Its really strong in PvP and against bosses with "fuck you" moves like Malenia.
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>>422671980
i like this gif
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>>422671862
You will never be caught light rolling
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>>422672036
>>422672081
I will need to pump up my END, then. Thanks lads.
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>>422671862
roll distance
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>>422671862
Light roll has a big boost to roll distance and makes quickstep/BHS more effective.
No other differences.
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>>422671806
Meant to be Niall reskin fight instead, the swamp one is fine.
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>>422671692
Same but I have 1200 hours
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is a tank build possible in this
how does poise works in ER again?
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>>422672145
Just use the equip load flask
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>>422672507
greatshield + scholars shield = totally immune to death
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>>422671617
>no reason
People love to downplay their mains so they dont get nerfed mate.

i've been watching way too much of that ai skinner steamed hams shit
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>>422671709
i roll
your move
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>>422672676
cool, ill try a tank build then. i want to be a slowfuck that eats everything
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patch?? hello????
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>>422672920
no patch
no news
deddo game
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>>422671692
same, but i have 900 hours
there's no point in interacting with other players
reds are niggers, gankers are niggers, hosts are retards and phantoms rush ahead of everyone like a trained dog and clear the dungeon for you while hoping for treat, a "good boy!" and a headpat at the end

playing offline with mods, your always active mimic and CE is much more fun
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>>422672981
>phantoms rush ahead of everyone like a trained dog and clear the dungeon for you while hoping for treat, a "good boy!" and a headpat at the end
I hate this. When I went for coop in souls games I expected some jolly cooperation where the phantom and I both went together facing challenges. Instead of that, I got a bunch of idiots rushing ahead killing everything. When I put my sign down, I always stayed with the host and went wherever they went. It's their game, they decide how they want to play them. I am there to help and protect them, not clear the level for them and force them to go a certain way.
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>spawn into Raya Lucaria, right before the boss fog
>"Defeat Rennala, host of fingers"
>u wot m8
>Rennala is already in Rennala's boss room
>bide my time until Rennala gets Rennala to phase 2
>can't even see what Rennala's doing to Rennala, but she's taking damage
What a ridiculous invasion, what are the odds?
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>>422673202
Build?
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>>422673202
>what are the odds
this was actually pretty common for me when i was invading the area some months ago. was fun to team up with the boss
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What are some group passwords that will get me a quick rune bonus?
I don't care about joining some gayass community I just need a group pass that's active so I can get the rune boost when I bleed greyoll's ass. Anyone got a good list?
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>>422673885
you get extra runes for putting a password?!
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>>422672920
There won't be a patch from now until the expac launch. They've done this exact thing with every previous game.
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>>422635243
I understand why reds do this, but it's still pathetic, how badly do you want to invade, clearly the feature is broken and not thought out well.

>>422638226
Then you have this, the intended way to invade, 1v1 and dude leaves because the norm is cheesing 3v1, what a fucking joke pvp is in this game.
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>>422673994
Whenever someone using a matching group password kills a Greatrune boss or beats the game, you get a passive 20% buff to rune acquisition for like 3 minutes.
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>>422673885
erg, fcb, FEXTRA, SEEKERS, straydmn
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>>422662768
You can coop with summons in randomizer?
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>>422674182
Worked like a charm, cheers
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>>422674182
>erg
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I am supposed to be playing Sekiro, but I am playing with a STR build in ER again
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>>422674649
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>not /erg/
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what is a fun halberdto use for PVE?
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>>422675315
Guardian swordspear, nightrider glaive with phantom slash
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>>422675315
nightrider
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Playing DS3, still dont get why people think the shrine maiden is better than Melina
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>>422674007
Shit, I think I can believe this. If this doesn't come out this month, then this has to be the case. We should be hoping it DOESN'T drop soon.
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>>422675802
Try emoting at her and find out
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Making you walk through lava is so fucking obnoxious
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>>422675802
Fire Maiden doesn't pretend to be anything more than a level up maiden stuck to one area. Melina is a "traveling companion" but barely appears, can only be summoned for one boss, and 90% of her dialogue is bland lore expodumps quoting someone else.
She also reacts to emotes, which isn't much but a little can go a long way and its much more than Melina gets.
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>>422675802
played every souls game and it baffles me how melina has any fans and ritualposters.
easily the most non-character female companion in souls games
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Trying to relearn how to parry, I'm sensing how important it is on a build that doesn't have on-demand hyperarmor or a nuke in its back pocket.
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>>422676085
Good thing going to NG+ in ER removes that, it let's you run through mud/lava.
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>>422661287
theorycrafting is fun, fills you imagination
then you remember what invading really is like and you lose will to do it
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>>422675315
Seconding guardian swordspear, it's got a fun moveset and you can get it pretty much right at the start.
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>>422675802
Melina was overhyped as having a big role

She did not, relatively speaking of course.
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But all the whiffing is worth it when it goes right. This was an absolutely abysmal invasion in terms of where it was and what I was fighting against.

>>422661287
Elden Ring probably has the best build variety across all Souls games, but a build is never finished until you've invaded with it. Some of my builds have gone through 2 or 3 revisions after invading with them and fixing their flaws. Just invade.
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>>422675434
>>422675461
>>422676329
just tested them out.
Thank, anons.
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>>422661140
Exactly though. They're here to fuck with you. You're the pussy for being too afraid to fight then and whining about it instead
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>>422676728
>being too afraid to fight then
We tried, repeatedly, and they just kept lightrolling away and refusing to fight.
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>>422659434
I disagree.
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>>422676929
Sounds pretty based lol.
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>"everything is..." mod
>everything is Soldier of Godrick
>except it's not just one for each enemy
>it's enough Soldiers of Godrick to replace whatever HP the enemy had
>go into Dragonbarrow Cave
>instead of one runebear in that tiny-ass first room there's 45 Soldiers of Godrick
>112 Soldiers of Godrick to replace Fire Giant
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>decided to do a pure incantation build
>boring as hell
Weapons are really the bread and butter of this game.
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>>422667098
>the only non fucked up female face is dead body from Diallos questline
wtf from
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>>422677296
Sellen is the hottest
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>>422677231
> never played Dark Souls
Yes anon. Melee is the core.
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>>422677374
>crooked eyes
>squished nose
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>>422677498
Good bait
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Whats a good weapon setup to learn pvp in the coliseum? Halberds? CS? ps Spears?
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There were so many opportunities for cool multiplayer related (or even just normal) covenants in this game...We didn't even get the obvious ones like Volcano Manor or Fia's/Godwyn champions.
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What should I call this guy
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>>422677231
Skill issue. Incantations are fun as fuck in this game, especially since a good half of them are just cooler melee attacks.
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>>422677530
Good cope, all of them look weird, Lanya is the best and most normal looking they could create and her whole role is to be dead.
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>>422677680
Everyday I wish Diallos and his retarded questline was never in this game.
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>>422677582
Speaking of Fia's champion, am I wrong to assume game takes player characters that finished her questline/got her ending(?) as some of the champions you will end up fighting? I swear I saw some differences between NG and NG+ when fightinig them, or when being summoned to fight them.
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>>422677783
It's people who've hugged her recently.
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STR chads run this general.
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>>422677664
Issue this nut
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>>422677374
indeed
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>>422677604
Sergio.
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>>422677374
I still don't understand what people see in Sellen. She's plain and homely.
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>>422678086
Feet
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>>422678086
I like her face but I find her hotter with the mask on
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>>422669076
>The DLC world will be a mashup of several 'eras' of time simultaneously using dream logic to string together the incongruous time continuity, just like BBs.
>the DLC will be bloodborne
my body is ready
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>>422676024
Pretty cute but still, she is less of a character than Melina
>>422676129
How? Even the girl from DS2 was basically just Enia, and girl that info dumps sometimes
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>>422678735
>she is less of a character than Melina
Debatable.
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>>422669076
Sounds good.
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When can they assume they started working on the DLC? 1.07 in October was the earliest mention we have of a major DLC being done, with the new boss and legacy dungeon listings. Usually they start the DLC just before the game releases, but I can assume Elden Ring was different.
We still don't have a trailer, and the DLC is "in development."
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>>422679282
Before release is accurate. They just only got to the point where adding stuff to the game was necessary around 1.07. Thing to remember is the game was clearly rushed out the door to hit the 2021 fiscal year end in March 2022 for Fromsoft.
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>>422678735
every girl prior was present at your "safehouse" so by default they felt like more of a person. you could always comeback to them and talk to them, which already puts all of them above melina. all of them had also all kinds of gimmicks that slightly elevated them too. melina feels like she just fucks off for the most of player's character's journey. she would be on par with others if she actually just showed up at every grace, thats it. she would be the best companion if you could actually talk to her there about relevant info ( about the location you're in, the last unique boss that you killed, your weapon at the present time etc. etc.). a HUGE wasted opportunity to make her the best souls girl.
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>>422679420
Then you have to wonder when this is coming out. Even for a massive DLC with new open areas I can't see it taking more than a year, since everything involved with making the base game is done with. Yet current leak estimates have it after AC in September, which I just can't buy.
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>>422679604
This. I'm -STILL- fuckiing mega mad they gave her dialogue but only at the only graces I -never- -ever- -ever- would want or need to actually rest at.

EVERY church I just grabbed the sacred tear, activated the grace and fucked off.

>>422679754
>Yet current leak estimates have it after AC in September, which I just can't buy.
Don't. Fucking. Listen. To. Leaks.

WE can just use basic logic and know ACVI is this year and Fromsoft doesn't want to compete with itself. So it's either before ACVI or after. So Summer this year or next winter after ACVI. Just basic educated guesses here mind you but I bet I'm right.
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>>422679860
>and Fromsoft doesn't want to compete with itself
BB and DS2 were like weeks apart
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>>422679937
>BB and DS2 were like weeks apart
Sony don't give a fuck.
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>>422679937
A year and a week apart.
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>>422677680
>>422677727
>break game
>save Lanya
>she turns out to be the smart one
>takes care of Diallos
>they both wind up in Jarburg
>together, they save the Jars
>Diallos becomes Lord of Jarburg
>marries Lanya
>They start a new, non-retarded branch of the House of Hoslow
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>>422678086
She's BAREFOOT, anon.
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>>422679937
>DS2 release date March 11, 2014
>BB release date March 24, 2015
Oh ancient one, please tell us more about the flow of time
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>>422680202
>>422680012
SOFTS
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>>422679754
>Even for a massive DLC with new open areas I can't see it taking more than a year
My hopium is they're trying to revamp the base game a la SotFS but better, while adding new contents at the same time and that's why it took so long.
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>>422680303
If this was true it wouldn't be part of the DLC though, it'd be free improvements. They didn't make us pay for Arenas this time, when Arenas were a DLC thing in past games.
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>>422680303
That hopium better involve fucking over X1 and PS4 faggots by making the DLC nextGen and PC only. That's what you should really hope for. SotE overhauls the main game too but cucks those worthless poorfag assholes and their machines from 2014
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>>422680551
Least insane PCfag
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>>422677498
Wrong one, that's the doll body.
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tfw I can't write a message letting people know to try using taunters tongue with Melina summoned because of try tongue but hole in previous iterations
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>>422677091
Can the game even handle that many actors in one place?
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>>422680951
people already do that. It's super annoying.
>melina's moveset is ideal ganker shit
>host will kick you out with the fogwall if you ever start winning
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>>422677604
Poo In Loux
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>>422680951
>using taunters tongue with Melina summoned
What? What are you talking about?
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>>422681528
you can summon npcs well one npc with taunters active, I imagine you can do it for Millicent aswell in certain spots.
im going to the ruins shortcut right now...
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>>422675919
dlc is at minimum 6 months away there's no way they wont add some misc updates in between. Possible they wont drop their raytracing patch until dlc though, but I imagine they'd be scared to ship it with the dlc since it will most likely be messy, and updating it earlier gives them time to get player feedback
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If Melina is Marika's daughter in some form, then her goal is to get a Tarnished to fuck her mom after countless sexless years.
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I must be retarded bros, I'm on my second playthrough and I don't remember how to get to the other side of the highway where the bridge next to Stormveil is broken
Basically this entire area south of the Study Hall, how do I get there again?
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Why do they waste time on something as irrelevant as ray tracing?
Bring back godskin scythe, fix some bugs, add cool character transformations - that would be nice
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>>422683082
Turn right after going up the hill with the ruins where the two finger heirloom is
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>>422679604
>every girl prior was present at your "safehouse" so by default they felt like more of a person. you could always comeback to them and talk to them, which already puts all of them above melina.
Thats retarded as hell anon
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>>422682543
>Possible they wont drop their raytracing patch until dlc though
Doubt it. Right now we are at our longest delay for a patch yet, 3 months (100+ days). That is a LOT of time when patches are meant to be consistent since they address community concerns and help the multiplayer scene thrive. So there needs to be some reason this patch is taking so long, and all the evidence suggests is ray-tracing. I don't know what I can even say if the patch doesn't drop this month though.
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>>422683259
You can get up there from the lake side? Christ, I really am retarded
Thanks
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>>422683437
NTA but how...? You absolutely see the Firekeeper more times than you do Melina.
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>>422683489
>That is a LOT of time when patches are meant to be consistent since they address community concerns and help the multiplayer scene thrive
No. It's not. Because this is not a dedicated Mulitplayer or live service game.

They pushed out the Arenas and PvP Balancing. That's just about all we can expect other than some more tweaks whenever DLC/RTX arrive.
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>>422683731
you can hate PVP all you want and i think its terrible this game but to deny that fromsoft's post-release isn't heavily focusing on it is retarded.
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>>422678086
And cute
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>>422683847
>deny that fromsoft's post-release isn't heavily focusing on it is retarded.
Exactly, this. You'd have to be retarded to say Fromsoft is focusing on PVP
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>>422683847
>you can hate PVP
I don't anon. I'm a PvP addict. I just know what the fuck this game is and what's fair to expect. Now that we have arenas and they finally tweaked the PvP balance, there's nothing left to actually expect. Maybe when RTX drops they address twin nagi faggots or something and we can expect 2-3 adjustments after DLC hits to tweak the content found within, but that's IT.
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>bats have a grab
what the fuck?
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>>422683437
The truth is that any illogical thing an organization is doing is likely because of absolute dipshit leadership that doesn’t listen to their workers. Whether it’s cause of money, saving face, or just being an idiot, 1.09 is taking forever because someone can’t let go of what it’s supposed to be.
They could give us a smaller 1.09. But they won’t. Because they’re fucking dumb
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>>422683437
>a character stays and lives in the same place, has more presence, you can talk and meet with them at any time
compared to,
>character fucks off for most of your travels, has less presence, can only talk at certain very specific places, gives you torrent and you learn from her how to level up but straight up vanishes after that
dont reply to me, if you are not willing to put forward a decent argument for your hollow waifu. empty by even souls standards by the way, which is REALLY saying something.
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>>422684273
According to Lance, this is what happened with the Arenas. It was supposed to be way larger with PVE content but something happened and it was cut, so they just released the PVP portion.
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>>422684870
Bandai is what happened
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>>422684870
They probably decide to playtest the stuff and finally release it in 1.09. That could explain the long interval between the updates atm.
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im disappoint because I can't summon my girl milly til new game+
but I can summon my boy boggart the grilled
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>>422685034
I believe it. Fromsoft games under Bandai do well commercially but have the most development issues.
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>heaviest armor I can wear
>Greatshield Talisman
>Physick with damage reduction
>Boiled Crab
Yep, it's boss killin' time
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>>422683640
Because seeing a character often doesnt make them good by itself You might like that more and grow more attached to them because of it, that I understand, but its doesnt add any real characterization, she's stil just a level up machine
>>422684356
See above
>decent argument for your hollow waifu
Dude you are the one treating them as waifus, "Oh I barely see Melina but my fire keeper is always home for me, so she is better". Its dumb beyond belief
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>>422685268
Can’t expect much from a pachinko company
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>>422685483
Greatshield Talisman doesn't seem that great after the nerfs.
Is it actually better than Viridian Amber +2 or Green Turtle?
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>>422685670
>20% damage reduction isn't good
inb4 pvpniggers crying
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>>422685626
>Because seeing a character often doesnt make them good by itself
Sure but you're not getting it. This used to be the bare minimum, but Melina doesn't even get that right.
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>>422685745
For some reason I thought he was talking about the Greatshield Talisman instead of Dragoncrest Greatshield.
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>>422685891
>Greatshield Talisman instead of Dragoncrest Greatshield
No such thing
And even the +2 Shield Talisman still gives 17% damage reduction
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we want raytracing
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>>422683938
>Exactly, this. You'd have to be retarded to say Fromsoft is focusing on PVP
then why is every single patch pvp related haha
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>>422685757
Sure but instead she gets to actually do stuff, has an actual story of her own(though still incomplete) and has a personal drive to save the world. Her not appearing in every site of grace might make her less memorable, but to me she is absolutely more of a character and not just someone that levels you up
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>>422685670
green turtle is great but its all pointless without light roll. armor is a meme. so is poise.
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>>422685626
all of them are level up machines but that's at least something, melina is not even that. i personally couldnt give a rat's ass if she showes up in a couple cutscenes in a 100h game. that doesnt make her memorable. her being close to the player in this long journey would have been better. even as level up machine.
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>"Ok, got my +22 weapon before fighting any bosses. Now I can start actually playing the game!"
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I am starting my first playthrough with an interactive map and a guide for missable side quests. I don't have time exploring every nook and cranny to find useless garbage.
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>>422686321
light roll was basically the easy mode update. might as well just sit back and cast rocks while tiche wins the game for you.
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>dragoncrest talisman
>blue feather talisman
>pearldrake +2 talisman
>spelldrake +2 talisman
>greatshield
>spear
It’s first time souls game player time
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>>422686464
I still didnt even find tiche. skill issue.
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>>422686439
Based but for me it's a +9 somber since they put that shit in Caelid almost like they want you to cheese it
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I have a suspicion that the dlc was already meant to be out by now and fromsoft is panicking that it still isnt out and we're getting closer to AC 6 release.
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>>422686635
yeah i guess not being able to explore IS a skill issue.
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>>422686439
Basically me
After 4 hours of playtime I'm finally ready to take on Margit with my +5 moonveil.
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>PvP
Literally noone cares. If you aren't playing the game offline you are not having the intended experience.
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>>422686756
you also need your daily dose
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>>422686756
they went bankrupt making reddit to the core
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>>422686869
he said while suggesting I summon because light roll is op...
>>422686439
meanwhile im like guess ill fight malenia with a +8 metal stick
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>>422687097
You're both fucking retards arguing over nothing, but it's astounding that you thought "I was too stupid to even FIND those ashes" means you win
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>>422687097
learn how to read please.
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>>422686941
Wow a katana
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>>422686337
actually now that i think about it, the cutscenes where she DOES appear actually make it worse. like her going all sentimental before sacrificing herself at the mountaintop grace and in the cutscene and how she is so glad that it was us that she traveled with as if she was present with us this whole time... just comes off as an insult.
yeah we sure were a great duo right girl? you gave me my horse and i leveled up with you a couple times...oh and yeah, how could i forget all those times you showed up to talk about that very existing lore at the churches! that was what, like 5 times? truly amazing
yeah man i dont know. at least for me, melina is bottom of the barrel.
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>>422686756
It definitely seems really fucking weird that we're getting an expansion 18+ months after the game's release. Like, the hype is dead. Elden Ring is yesterday's news. Most franchises would be revealing a sequel at this point, in fact I think there was less of a gap between sofs and DaS3 than there will be between ER and its DLC.

The business choices here are hard to understand, and it's difficult to conceive what they could possibly be doing with the DLC that A: requires so much time B: makes it worth waiting so long that they miss the boat like this
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>>422687572
Scholar to DS3 was less than a year lel
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>>422687337
>light roll was basically the easy mode update.
>he said while suggesting I summon because light roll is op...(easy mode)

>learn how to read please.
im not arguing with any of you fucking retards I just said turtle is pointless without light roll and you went off on one.

>>422687286
I missed ONE ash, fuck off.

fuck off.
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>+0 briar shield
Oh yea, it’s godrick slappin’ time.
I’m too lazy to grab anything else before I get the bloody finger
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>>422687572
They're taking their time to perfect the new waifu
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>>422687751
No, you missed an evergaol. Those are drawn in on the map, you know
inb4 you didn't find the plateau that even normalfag newcomers found
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>>422687862
I'm starting to think they will make him evil.
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>>422687572
I dunno, the announcement for the DLC kinda revived the discussion of the game so i'm sure they'll be fine if they can play their cards right. Besides, it seems like we're seeing trends of DLC/expansion that went into relatively long dev time lately, Horizon and Cyberpunk comes to mind.
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>>422687751
damn you are a legitimate fucking retard LOL
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I've been running a Lion's Claw Giantcrusher for a while now, wanna try something else
Any fast STR weapons that are fun? Is the Gargoyle Twinblade good?
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>>422688021
He’s probably got some tie into the night of the black knives. The only not evil one is radagon. He may not be the wisest, but he’s trying to fix the shattering and by extension, the apocalypse we’re playing in
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I wouldn't be shocked if they're just trying to not get trampled by Zelda.
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>>422688280
>he may not be the wisest, but he is trying to re-establish the yoke of the Greater Will which Ranni (pbuh) started to free us from
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>>422688242
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>>422688280
Radagon is not evil for sure. But he's a piece of shit. For ditching a qt like Rennala.
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>>422688115
Reminder that horizon came out weeks before Elden Ring.
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>>422688465
Wow, never heard of this o-
>Has a chance to drop from Omens wielding this weapon. (4.00% chance)
Why is it always this shit
What would be the harm in making it a guaranteed drop from the first enemy of that type you fight?
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>>422688619
>What would be the harm in making it a guaranteed drop from the first enemy of that type you fight?
it removes diversity and excitement. You no longer need to use or want to get item drop increasing items. You never come back to the game later and find something you've never gotten before.

Just fucking stack item discovery. You'll find it in no time.
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>its a troll anon episode
no clips for you then
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hope we get a curved greatsword or two with a new moveset in the dlc, all the current cgs are pretty meh
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>>422688786
>it removes diversity
Dude, there's like 200 fucking weapons that are guaranteed drops/item finds
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>>422688457
The empyreans, gods, and demigods were probably most effected by the GW. Average Joe just lived their life in ignorance. This whole mess was started because a few egos were hurt
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>>422687572
At this point I just want to see what it actually turns out to be. Part of me is holding onto some copium that this turns out to be a significantly more ambitious effort than they've done before and includes updates to the base game world, maybe revamping or altering enemy placements and encounters like in Mountaintops that frankly felt like they were lower effort than other aspects of the game. There's a world where the DLC essentially functions as Elden Ring 1 and a half and acts like a broader expansion, but things do turn out to be more standard, like say a new overworld region with 2 or 3 legacy dungeons and a smattering of caves and catacombs, then it will seem like there's some serious mismanagement going on, which would be a shame. From really broke through into the upper levels of game popularity, I'd hate for them to squander their success because they couldn't come up with some new weapons, areas and bosses in a reasonable timeframe
It makes me wonder if development on the DLC truly didn't start until after release, it would go a long way to explaining the delay
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>Banished Knight Helm scarf does not go over the cape of the Ronin's chestpiece
ruined, so much for pushing the twink into Mountaintops
at least I get the Lightning Greatbolt vendor now
>>422688812
your Lightning Slash Omenkiller Cleaver true combo?
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>>422688875
>Dude, there's like 200 fucking weapons that are guaranteed drops/item finds
Yeah. Exactly. There's PLENTY of guaranteed shit. Finding stuff by chance is cool and exciting and I hate you for thinking it's bad. Go fucking wear that beetle and blob hat and eat your silver fowls.
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>>422688880
>Average Joe just lived their life in ignorance
I'm not sure that's a valid conclusion. The problem here is that the controlling nature of the GW is so vague. That's common in stories where someone goes "muh free will, I'm gonna free us from whoever controls us and give us free will back"
It's simply not shown in what exact way the GW infringed upon anyone's free will
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>>422688280
Miquella needed an undead consort to be his counterpart so he went and created one.
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>>422689054
You should go to mountain tops for sippie cup upgrades anyways
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>>422689085
>Finding stuff by chance is cool and exciting
Why? You wouldn't possibly know whether that drop you get from an enemy is guaranteed if you just get it by chance. Maybe that one Omenkiller always drops it
But you just love farming so it's pointless to argue with you. Go back to playing MMOs, faggot
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>>422688619
>What would be the harm in making it a guaranteed drop from the first enemy of that type you fight?
They already got rid of chance drops from Bosses, my first playthrough of DS1 I got the Boars Helm, accidentally got the Gargoyle halberd. Next playthrough I was like wtf wheres my cool shit. We have no diversity of playthroughs in that regard, so why remove that feeling from the whole game? If everyone could just instantly grab every weapon then why not just cheat.
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>>422689514
>my first playthrough of DS1 I got the Boars Helm
Thanks for proving my point, that's a guaranteed drop if you kill all boars
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>>422689297
>Why?
NPC response
>But you just love farming so it's pointless to argue with you
Get fucked brat
> You wouldn't possibly know whether that drop you get from an enemy is guaranteed if you just get it by chance
Except most times you aren't gonna get it first time and mistake it for a guaranteed drop. You're gonna be killing it AGAIN and be like:
>oh sick you can get the sword they grafted to the Stormhawk's legs
Imagine being so soulles that you just want everything right awya with no mystery, effort or surprises. Just fucking boot up cheat engine.
>BUT BUT CONSOLES
COPE
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>>422688021
Not to repeat the
>Le Bersek ripoff
Shit for the hundredth time, but I really think he's essentially going to be a less cruel-Griffith, in that he has aspirations for a utopia for all inhabitants of the Lands Between that he's willing to sacrifice and manipulate people for. Frankly I want to see how they tie the Miquella/St. Trina thing together, because despite them being one and the same, I don't understand why Miquella has an affinity for sleep magic, or how that's supposed to tie into his master plan of achieving the age of Abundance or whatever was in that datamined text
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>>422689054
what, is it r2 into lightning slash or something?
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>>422686294
>Sure but instead she gets to actually do stuff
What stuff? She doesn't do jack shit, not anymore than Fire Keeper and her secret eye side-quest. Goddamn delusional waifufags all over the shop.
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>>422689658
After his Haligtree failed he could go for the,
>hey Tarnished, thanks for killing/solving the Godwyn issue, now i can get everyone into the dream/spirit world since the real one is fucked.
I mean it even solves the promise issue he has with Malenia, there is no rot (possibly) in the dream/spirit world for her to be affected by.
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>>422689658
>r whatever was in that datamined text
do consider the possibility that this will simply remain cut and not canon. cut content can easily be retconned and should be considered retconned by the mere fact it was cut.
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>>422687572
>Like, the hype is dead
>300K+ for the announcement
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>moonveil spamming my way through the game
>suddenly dawns on me that I'm basically just doing the exact same thing as I did with Bloody Slash on my arc playthrough, except restricted to one weapon instead of being on whatever I like
Man, why is arc just always the best playthrough?
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what should i name him
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>>422690103
Yeah, previous games had cut content found in their games that never came back.
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>>422689127
True. I just get the feeling that the populous was ignorant to the GW and saw marika with her golden order as the religion and figure head.
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>>422690270
King Cailan
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>>422675802
she has a cooler look and bigger boobs
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>>422690270
Radagon’s College Roomate
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>>422688619
grow a fucking pair and CE it if you don't want to farm it
pathetic insecure fucks
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>>422690270
>strawberry hair
Melin, the genderbent Melina
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>>422689691
Lightning Slash truecombo into R2
>>422689275
I don't want to kill any more of those Ulcerated Tree fuckers
12 flasks (divided by 2) is more than enough for a level 20 twink
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>>422687572
The DLC teaser on twitter got more likes and views than Breath of the Wild's sequel announcement
The hype is strong
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>>422690959
>Melin [He/Him]
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She'll be back in the DLC.
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>>422689634
>entire post is "no ur wrong" and something about consoles that I didn't even say
As I thought, an MMO shitter
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>>422675802
I know it's dumb but the gag manga actually went a long way to making me like Melina as a character, so I actually rate her now, and there's always a chance that the DLC salvages the backstory she's obviously meant to have and makes her into a more noteworthy character
But yeah, I never felt very strongly about the Firekeeper in DS3, truthfully. She has a great design, good voice acting and a cute twirl when you gesture at her, but that's about it. Even Anastasia, the mute firekeeper from DS1 had more going on once you revived her and gave her voice back to her, the DS3 Firekeeper is essentially just a fancy bit of decoration that talks to you
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>>422687572
>the hype is dead
>game reached "my coworkers are talking about the DLC announcement"-tier
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>>422689085
>Yeah. Exactly. There's PLENTY of guaranteed shit. Finding stuff by chance is cool and exciting
retarded fucking slop chugger
chug a battle of bleach next time, holy fuck
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>>422681672
Like in previous games, right? You can summon one NPC normally and you have to use the tongue to summon the 2nd and final NPC, right?
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>>422691264
Maybe not in the way you want
https://youtu.be/U3NoDEu7kpg
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Is it still good for midgame invasions?
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>>422690962
You can get all the seeds you need without killing them. Keneth drops one and there’s enough trees in the world. I don’t like killing Kenneth so I get my last seed from the ulcer in stormveil. It’s the least aggressive and a twink can kill it with ease. There’s also the sacred tears if a single crimson flask doesn’t heal you up all the way
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>>422691431
unfortunately no, and it turns out you can summon more than one, because I was summoning boggart and hammerbro.
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>>422691504
only with dual lance niggardry
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I've never done NG+ in any game but just out of interest, how does it work here? Everything in Farum and Haligtree already twoshots you even at 50VIG in NG, do you just get oneshot by every single enemy in NG+5?
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>>422691694
>Everything in Farum and Haligtree already twoshots you even at 50VIG in NG
What? I don't remember this. Are you wearing slut armor or are you wearing actual armor?
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>>422690384
Characters mention the Greater Will by name.
The Greater Will is Elden Ring's Yahweh
The Fingers are its priests and missionaries
Marika was the Land's Between's Jesus.

Marika was worshipped as being one with the Erdtree, a terrifying goddess of war and a loving, generous goddess that spread life and blessings. The religion of the Lands Between always tacitly understood that she was subordinate to the Greater Will, but they saw that relationship and Marika's position as proof the Greater Will favours their kingdom and cares about their lives enough to handpick an avatar to bless them. In truth it's not clear if the Greater Will is even capable of something like 'feelings' or if it's just some cosmic space whale of infinite power that imposes order instinctively and is just acting to its simple nature, and Marika is ultimately not a willing party to its influence but a puppet actively resisting its master.
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>>422691694
>how does it work here?
it's utterly retarded, that's how it works here
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>>422691798
As heavy as I can get away with at 40 END+great jar arsenal
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>>422691270
Stop. You're a retarded manboy.

>>422691334
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>>422691504
It's fucking dead. The range nerf is so bad that people can be physically touching you and casually backwalk out of range before it goes off, and the 40% damage nerf means it's almost never killing anything and anybody poisy enough to facetank it is genuinely going to outtrade you.
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>>422691694
you barely notice it early on until you notice it alot. if its like the old games.
ng+7 everything will oneshot you unless and perhaps in spite of maximum vig and I mean absolutely capped out + talismans. probably not "random hollows" in this game but bosses certainly.
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>>422691956
I love it when people prove by themselves that they're not worth arguing with and lost the argument
It's like the I AM SILLY strawman but you deliberately did it to yourself
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>>422691694
its terrible don't do it
its only worth it 1 time to get all the shit you missed the first time like alternate rewards
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>>422692097
>get btfo after talking about chugging bleach or how everything should be 100% drop rate
>WELL ACTUALLY GOOD SIR, I OBJECT TO YOUR TONE AND BEHAVIOR, YOU HAVE CONCEDED THE DEBATE AND LOST YOUR MORAL HIGHGROUND, RAPSCALLION THAT YOU ARE
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>>422692190
Oh god no I wasn't thinking of doing it, I was just idly wondering
Though I DID happen to do NG+ on a backed-up save after my first playthrough (wanted to fight Malenia again)
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>>422691957
>almost all other weapons keep getting better
>a fucking Vykes got its WA improved
>this one was mercilessly slammed down TWICE as hard despite not even being among the strongest arc options
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>>422691956
>>422692271
where do you live
tell me so i can beat the fuck out of your keyboard warrior ass
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>>422692412
Vyke's got a 30% stealth nerf to its WA. It was done dirty just like Mohg's, only slightly less so.
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New player here
Bleed weapons seem overpowered compared to other stuff. Does that change in mid to lategame?
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>>422692586
No.
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>>422692586
Nope, it is babby's first build for that exact reason
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>>422692485
>Wait a minute, I'm Tarnished! Ahaha *sip*
Impotent rage is funny but I'm done with you.
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hey, who's up for a /erg/ meetup?
this guy is VIP, >>422692692 i'll pay for his plane tickets and hotel room as long as he shows up
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>>422692586
Bleed genuinely gets better as the game progresses since hp pools really start to bloat and it's %-based damage. The only downside to bleed is that you need to stay aggressive because buildup decays if you aren't constantly hitting your target to apply it, and some enemies are just completely immune to it.
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>>422692412
>melting people from 30 feet away
>not OP as shit
>>422692586
bleed has been cucked pretty hard
reduvia is literally the best bleed/ARC weapon for bleed so use it
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>It's a fucking LoL player
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/419449689/#419516923
kek
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Is it worth getting blood flame blade if I'm just doing a dex build?
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>>422669751
>But of course red man bad because he doesn't magically sense that my intentions are totally innocent (+3 extra upgrades and 20 levels :^)) and sandbag to make me feel good about myself.
I never said anything like that though.
>>422653074
Yeah but why did he teabag me?
>>422651458
+0 standard weapon cause I kept forgetting to put glintstone pebble on it.
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is erdsteel dagger as busted as claypoon but faith?
I was going to do black knife and blade of calling but they don't actually pair with one stat and I think this one will be level 90
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>>422693110
>is a quickstep dagger busted?
No it's shit
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Past games had unique item corpse models relevant to each other while Elden Ring has Limgrave commoners in fucking Farum Azula
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>>422691307
>She has a great design, good voice acting and a cute twirl when you gesture at her, but that's about it. Even Anastasia, the mute firekeeper from DS1 had more going on once you revived her and gave her voice back to her, the DS3 Firekeeper is essentially just a fancy bit of decoration that talks to you
Man, not to sound too autistic but i disagree on both fronts
>Anastacia
She is interesting as a character but ultimately its that, she is interesting as a self-hating undead being held captive to serve.

>DaS3's
I would argue not only that she is the best level up girl, but that she is a culmination of every other girl that came before her. First, her design is clearly inspired by MiB, which still has the best desing, but das3's is a close silver. Second, she has the same "captive" theming from Anastacia, but its much more interesting than just forced brutality. Its a mix of duty and having nothing else in life, and during our quest we see what happens to her kind (discarded in a pile after use). Third, she has a quest of her own like EH, but while the Herald's is a bit too confusing thanks to the troubled development, even with das3 having the same fate its pretty clear, she serves the shrine "blindly" and is destined to be thrown away afterwards, but we, along with her own will thanks to her new eyes (being now able to "see"), decide to change fate and do what we think its right, the "betrayal", and part of that is thanks to fourth, like the Doll, we create a connection of affection, even if more implied than anything, but while the Doll is compelled to, she has nothing forcing her to do so and ultimately she has very little impact or a quest of her own, at best we solve her anguish by killing Maria, while the fire keeper gets to by her own hands free herself from her shackles and living in the dark with her champion.

She is fantastic aesthetically, personality wise, character wise and quest wise, being the most realized of all the level up girls.
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>>422693487
I don't care to fact check you so I'm just gonna call you full of shit for even caring about such a completely pointless detail
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>no option for an NPC invader to be replaced by a human player
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>>422693615
Id RP the hell out of that
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I don't see why anyone would even play PVP, any invasion I've seen when I was helping hosts was just running away 90% of the time and then trying to do quick running attacks behind you
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>>422693576
Melinasisters.... Its over.... Spoken echoes do NOT linger here...
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>>422693576
BASED
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>>422693409
it can be ashed though and has faith scaling which is why im asking
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>>422676129
>>422675802
>filtered
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shanalotte is the best
bear
seek
seek
lest
those feet
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>>422695118
She doesn't give a shit about you and wants you to burn in the kiln. Will probably be absolutely assmad if you decide to ditch the flame and fuck off.
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>since there's no patches and no discounts, the population of the game stagnates
>because of the dog shit invasion system it means invasion targets get narrower and narrower until nothing but gankers remain
>literally everyone predicted this shit to happen a year ago already
>some plebbit drones actually tried to defend this bullshit and some delusional fucktards actually compared it with DS3 invasions despite the fact DS3 feels far more alive than ER
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>>422695659
I went back to invading in fucking Bloodborne lol. Before that was DaS3. The state of the game's PVP is inexcusable for their biggest title.
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>>422695659
Don't know why anyone bothers with pvp in ER other than colloseum and even that is riddled with metafaggotry, but at least odds are evened out
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>>422695659
>because of the dog shit invasion system
Stopped reading, imagine caring about pvp lmao
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>I went back to invading in Bloodborne
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Splash more OC for you fellas. Not many good Elden Ring meme template type images to choose from so I had to settle for Malenia.
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>>422696098
>Elden Ring pvp.gif
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>>422695948
Invasions are the only form of pvp i accept because i absolutely love using environment and blend with pve. Duelniggery brings the worst out of the series' combat system because at its core it's nothing but whiff punishes as far as 1vs1 go, so it ALWAYS devolves to passive staring contests in one form or the other unless you're playing against absolute retards.
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>>422695948
>complains about metafaggotry in ER when you can forget about entering the pvp scene in DS3 if you aren't willing to abuse the """"""""""""""""""""""tech""""""""""""""""""""""""
kys
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>>422696217
I always treated arenas as practice for invasions, which are the real PVP.
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>>422696339
They don't really give you the same skills unless you're glitched into fighting 3 people in group fights all by yourself.
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>>422695432
this is the complete opposite of what actually happens, and dark is the canon end in 2.
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>>422693487
>corpses
They're still alive. In Dark Souls they're comatose hollows who have lost all hope to even move, same thing in Elden Ring, they're commoners who have lived so long (no rune of death) that they gave up and fell comatose.
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>>422696217
Yes, using environment is great, but odds being massively stacked against invaders and gank squands means there's only place for the most broken and abusive of builds. That said, invaders would always gravitate into that anyway.

>>422696236
after you
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>>422696489
There are lots of occasions where you kill the friends and are left with a solo host, or you seperate from the main group but a phantom or a blue find you, etc.
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>>422696646
>That said, invaders would always gravitate into that anyway.
Invaders weren't anywhere nearly as sweaty in previous games compared to ER, and nobody can blame them
Back in 2 i don't think i EVER saw a metanigger invader.
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>Patches gives you his letter so you can do his manor quest for him
This goddamned snake... How did he even join the manor? You have to kill another tarnished to be accepted into this cult.
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>>422696876
anon he was running an ambush operation for god knows how long out of Murkwater.
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>>422696601
I meant these. Yahargul in Bloodborne had a unique corpse of a Choir member that is where you got the key to Upper Cathedral Ward from. Here we have a commoner model from Limgrave just dead in Farum Azula for some reason.
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>>422696859
Yes, you can argue that fun/rp builds would be more common before, simply because the odds were better, but existence of sweats is probably want made miyazaki go full retard with invasions in ER, since he guessed that if you gonna sweat then you should be at disadvantage, but that hit all invaders.
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In two days I have farmed
>perfumers robe
>two noble straight swords
>two noble estocs
>two cleanrot swords
>two bandit curved swords
>tentacle head
ask me anything
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>>422697281
Miyazaki has 0 involvement with PVP stuff and leaves that up to a specialized team.
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>>422697427
well whoever did that went full retard, literally doesn't matter
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>>422697357
Why haven’t you bought a lottery ticket yet
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>3trannies leave for ER
>ER is shit up by 3trannies
>only some comfy players remain behind
>3trannies feel nostalgic about their own cancer and go back for a moment
>they find pleasant company
>they migrate their cancer back to their containment game
can't happen soon enough

>>422697357
are you a neet? i hope so
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>>422696876
I wonder if he killed Vyke....
he is clearly already a member when we meet him since he knows Rya well enough to tell the only truth he told in 5 games, that she is nice and you should help her.

unrelated, should I make an assassin next, or a dung?
it has to be his whole armor to boost those tools that spray spirits, im not sure if I should do his sword aswell because that would be strength biased quality and int faith for the spirits, which puts me solidly into the highcap not level 90. maybe thats how ill do it but it would be more fun at lower levels I would have thought. what do?
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>>422697678
>I wonder if he killed Vyke....
i wonder if you know any of the names these characters are associated with.
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>>422697678
Dung Eater build is worthless at low levels other than as a pose monster who trades with Milos. You simply won't have the stats to do it justice. You want something like 30/30 INT/FAI to make the bairns worth the cast time/FP Cost etc.

Luckily, Shriek of Milos is amazing for the debuff and the GS is not bad at all because at least it bleeds. Equip Roar Talisman to increase the damage boost Shriek of Milos [Snowflake Poopoo Man Warcry] moveset change. So I guess just take your pick. PROPER Dung Man at SL 150-200 because INT/FAI is a motherfucker or Sword only Dung but at low level.
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>>422697357
did you know cooping increases your drop rates ALOT like ds2?
I got two octo hats in one dungeon in one coop session on a new character. i gave the guy one since I already at that point collected 3 total.

I do have a sort of luck passive though irl that even follows over to dice. I once rolled 6 6s three times in a row and I didn't believe it myself but it happened.
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>>422697839
having thought about it for more than 5 seconds Iirc maliketh killed him so, not vyke. no need to act like a polymath every time my first guess is wrong geez.
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new thread

>>422698232
>>422698232
>>422698232
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>>422697113
I know you mean these, and I was saying that they aren't corpses, they're just comatose.
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>>422698085
thank you, I would have forgotten roar. I used it on my strength guy but dungs ash didn't register as the same category for me at this time.
I might try it on my main maybe (already 200), but im not sure how many larval tears I have left.
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>>422698397
they're absolutely corpses in all cases dude. sometimes a duck is just a duck.
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>>422669076
>Miquella's consciousness is currently residing within the Death Prince. He entered Godwyn's dreams in an attempt to sooth his suffering and assuage the spread of the deathblight, knowing that he was likely not going to return
Theory already debunked by Malenia's armor description, which says he made a promise to her before he disappeared and that he has to return to fulfill it.
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>>422697678
Assassin.



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