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Whats the best full retard builds that arent melee? Just help me pick something good for a ranged or caster playthrough.
Patch soon right?
Some of you invader chads know about how fun it is to crash an item transfer session and loot their shit right? Well... Stay awhile... and listen... To th tale of the Dung Eater and his White Mask>RL300>Invading Leyndell Ashenl Capital>Spawned on Godfrey's stairs>Host and furled finger are transfering loot>Grab what I can>White Mask>They're going fucking buckwild mashing R1 and spamming AoW>Run away and equip it>teabag relentlessly>host IMMEDIATELY notices I'm wearing it and stops attacking>drop gold/blood excrement and run away through Marika's bedchamber>phantom finger when out of sight>spawn right at fogwall>drop more bloody and golden excrement>host and his bud finally notice me>"You're beautiful" spam>swap back to Dung Eater Helm>drop bloody bandages headgear>run away down the stairs>host and phantom follow>host AND furled finger start dropping numen and large golden runes>grab a stack of ten or so runes>use them right in front of them>turn 180 and crouch>leave blood tainted excrement>run away up the hill>they lose patience and murder meI. AM. THE DUNGEATER. I WILL KILL AGAIN. AND DEFILE EACH CORPSE WITH CARE
>>42263033780 int, 60 vigor, however the fuck much you want in mind, blast everything to smithereens.
>>422630378he's seething because he has no friends
>>422630337Assuming you picked it all up in a previous playthrough, you can just do dragon spells and lightning incantations.
I accidentally picked up the +8 halberd on my low level invader I was making. What is the lowest rl you think I could get away with?
I was pissing myself laughing. This was my finest hour. I have never EVER had a better invasion. Legit. I'll think about this for years. Only better thing would be if I BTFO them really easily instead of dying at the end. >>422630550Reminder: Never pay ransomers. It's a retarded plan.
okay so im starting a Journey 2 but im kind of sick of using the Bloodhounds Blade, any recommended weapons I could try and switch to? I did all the remembrances and explored most of the map on Journey1 so just assume I have all weaponsthis is the Status im working with
>>422630651Well, with a +8 regular you invade down to +5 at the lowest, which typically means most hosts are faffing around Liurnia.
Malenia threadMalenia board Malenia DLC
1.09 next week right?
I'm sorry, bros, Radahn's set just isn't /fa/
>>422630605imagine defending hosts who let others play the game for themand now imagine me suicide bombing you
bro what the fuck is with the lag when youre invading someone
Red man bad
>>422630050If a mechanic is allowed, its intended and okay to use. You're not playing the game 'right' by self imposing handicaps to artificially create more difficulty.
>>422631643>not summoning a max-level password summon who easily and effortlessly cleaves through everything while you sit back and watch = self imposing handicap that artificially creates more difficulty
>>422632147Its not wrong, just preference. Summoning in general is okay and so are spirit ashes. If someone wants to steamroll its their choice.
Elden Ring is literally the worse pvp in the franchise. I mean only able to invade host who want to be invaded, what the fuck were they thinking.
>>422631643salty redfags just mad they have no friends to play with, therefore, they go out of their way to ruin the experience for others
>>422632306>comparing using spirit ashes to summoning another player who can do and use everything on their max-level charNot even saying this from an invader's perspective, the people that do this are genuinely robbing themselves of a good experience by letting their summons do everything for them
Can you do infinite respecs in this game by backing up save files like in DaS3?
Which unique INT weapon synergizes the best with your INT casting spells? It doesn't need to be broken, just have good flow
>>422632306It's easy mode and you're barely even getting the experience of playing the game, but it is their choice.
>>422632769I did this game entirely through the seamless co-op mod with 2 friends, AND we sometimes used spirit ashes even though its not supposed to be possible while in normal co-op. And it was a blast.
>>422632854You absolutely can yes
should I do a NG+ or should I just bite the bullet and do a New character like the Samurai guy
>>422632978Did you do that for your first and only playthrough?If so, it makes sense why you're boasting about having someone else play the game for youIf not, why are you even responding
>over a year later>this still has not be explained yet
bro if a host and his phantoms t-bag my corpse one more time I'm going to
>>422633290Godrick the Grafting
>>422633223Im joining the conversation telling you that its not nice to call other people's fun fake
Is it just me, or are Elden Ring players way more into roleplaying than in previous games. Not that I'm complaining. It's kind of cool seeing the summon pool filled with interesting names and builds.
>>422633472I think it's just because now we can change our player names free of charge, before this we either couldn't do it at all or it was limited like respecing
The DLC was a lie wasn’t it
>>422633472You aren't wrong. It's a cool thing desu. No other game I remember had so many thoughtfully made characters. Us RP/Cosplay chads used to be 1/20 gigachads. Now we're like 1/10.
>>422633449Is that the actual voice actor?
>>422629756>delayed attacksSkill issue.>>422632978If you had this much fun not getting challenged, then you would probably have the same amount of fun playing Genshin or some shit.>>422633472There's definitely more people doing themed builds with lore-appropriate names than in previous games. Of course, the extent to which they stick to said theme or lore tends to vary, but still an improving trend.
>>422632935The answer is always Wing of Astel.
>>422633732Genshin is a fun game too yes. Being contrarian and hating everything isn't cool.
>>422633457>pay money to play a game that has based its identity around overcoming hardship and adversity through your own strength and wit>end up literally letting other people take care of any and every kind of hardship you come acrossIt'd be like buying a hentai game, ignoring the hentai, and saying you had "fun" with the barebones basic story that only serves as a cheap reason for the hentai to happen
>>422632854>>422633014Wait, you can..?
>>422633290It's Godrick, grafting. What's there to explain?
Would Ranni keep sucking after you blow your load?
>>422633974>>422633439looks nothing like him and it wasn't in the game
>>422634025oh god i hope so
>>422634025nope. she'd cast a genlte chilled air spell on your wet cock and make a joke about feeling the "chill of her night"
>>422634080It was when he just started to graft
>>422633732I'll be honest bro I mostly play elden ring for the melee wizard power fantasy, the nice artstyle of the world it's just the cherry on top
>>422630238Whose the fat guy right of ranni in armor?
>>422633921So why did they allow co-op and ashes if they go against the spirit of the game?
>>422631456It is the duty of the strong to protect and aid the weak
>>422633921It's more like buying a hentai game and then jerking off to it with your buddies, which is a thing all of us have done at one point. Just like invading is cumming on another dude's screen before he gets to his favorite girl.
>>422634304they will forever stay weak and never grow strong if all they do is hide behind their password summons
>>422634304It is the duty of the strong to exploit and bully the weak
I HATE BOSS DOOR INVASIONS I HATE BOSS DOOR INVASIONS
why are str/dex at 53 and not 50 here?
>>422634080>looks nothing like himDid you miss Godrick's tiny, shriveled real original torso and head left in the boss arena, the one that Gostoc is stomping on?
>>422634385it's more like buying a hentai game and letting your friends jack off to it while you sit in the corner and watch while not jacking off
Will patch 1.09 save us anons?
>>42263493053 . 1,5 = 80
For anyone curious, I went through Stormveil Castle while tongue'd and solo just for fun. Here's the invaders I ran into.First guy is pretty much exactly what you'd expect.
>>422634448doth not the flower protected from the storm grow not twice as high?
>>422635243Then I got invaded by someone just RPing as a harmless granny. She just kinda wandered around my world and left. No idea what she would have done had I attacked her. She also invaded a second time.
>>422635243This invader likely fights against 3 guys all doing that same cheese shit all the timeBut yeah doing all that shit against a lone host is fucking lame
>>422635243haha get tea bagged lmao
>>422635751it doesn't if the protectors are so scared of the storm they inadvertently shield the flower from the sun
>>422635752This happened the moment the granny left. My damage is fucking garbage against these builds, but I really should have stuck glintstone pebble on this halberd when I bought it, would have helped.
>>422635243>>422636238It's honestly no wonder newbies ask their friends to carry them through shit when this is the kind of invader they encounter.
>>422636432You say that but the only way to encounter an invader is to have a friend in the first place
>>422636070like in all things balance is the answer
The dragon knight/slayer is coming along nicely. Only lvl 40 rn. Still got tons of bosses in the pre godrick areas. Gonna see if I can't get in some 1 shots with this maw on these mini bosses.
dlc had better come with some more and BETTER heavy armor options. fucking sick of bullgoats or bullgoats or bullgoats or poop armor
>>422636875Golem armor please Miyazaki
>>422636238This guy's probably the only guy I fought that I actually stood a realistic chance of killing. After he teleported away he came right back but just kinda followed me around without trying to fight me. I went down to the Crucible Knight and started attacking it in hopes I could fight both of them at once, and sure enough he joined in (I died).
>>422636875Nigga just dress fly and roll. The dlc better have some slooty light armor.
>>422636578Random co-op exists
>>422636432They'll only encounter this shit if they summon people though
found where you live in Elden Ring anon
>>422637053And the game pushes summoning on you from the very start. Look here, you can meet other players at these co-op pools!
>keen morning star
>>422636875>use ezmode gear>look like a dumb assWhats the problem
>>422636981The Crucible Knight 1v2 in question.I forgot to mention when this guy came back he dropped me some items, but I didn't pick them up.
>>422636994i amend my post. add slutty heavy armor
is there any kind of database for character appearances/sliders?
>>422637339Good on ya. Never pick up anything from people you don't know, especially if you're on PC.
>decide to turn on the blue ring against my better judgment while making a build>You are being summoned to another world...>spawn at the bottom of the beach in Limgrave, intuition tells me it's a gank, but I ignore it>run up to Church of Elleh, see the host>it's some retard in crucible knight armor who's spamming CE'd sleep bolts with the pulley crossbow>but the invader is a bull-goat pot twink, no doubt using his physick to light roll for 3 minutes>fuck it>hardswap from pickaxe to great epee for a single running R2>it hits run as the host sleeps the pot twink and hits his punish>guy gets 1 shot>teabag over his fading corpse and reverse backstep with the host knowing full well I did literally nothingYou better believe I'm not going to help a fucking loser invader like that, cheating twink host or not.>>422635243Yeah, it's bad. I seriously have no respect for people who don't know when to tone it down with the metafaggotry.
>>422637339This guy only fought me for a few seconds before he just left all on his own. Which is good because I had no flasks left anyway.Also people seeing me, being confused that I'm alone/not camping a grace and clearing a level, and often leaving afterwards is fairly common. This isn't the first time. I guess no one else plays this way.
>>422636238>base requirements naginata with heavy armor and VIG gougeit's all so tiresome
>>422638090I’d honestly be saltier over a twinked out dual vyke dyke bowing than throwing shit and tea bagging me
>>422638226I’ve tried taunter’s tonguing before and have had several people drop me runes and other gifts before severing, especially if they see me actively fighting the mobs
>>422638226And then I got IMMEDIATELY invaded by this guy after the first guy left. I actually find back to back invasions with the tongue pretty rare, at least for me.
>>422638304>invade a duo>a blue shows up almost immediately, it's a 3v1>rivers, moonveil, stars of ruin, the worst of the worst as far as ganks are concerned>die>the blue fucking bowsnothing tilts me more man I'd rather he just spammed crouch
>>422633950no you're being trolledif you replace saved u get banned
>>422638820After that this happened. I'm kind of upset I didn't nail that second to last parry.
>>422639462And then the last invasion was this guy. I'm kind of upset, I went up the ladder because I specifically wanted him to start shooting at me, but it turns out explosive bolts make it basically impossible to miss someone climbing a ladder even if they try to dodge it.So all in all that was 9 invasions in total. Out of these 9, only 1 was someone who teabagged/pointed down after killing me. And maybe like 2-3 of them had builds that were way too strong for the area. Honestly not as bad as I was expecting. Also I didn't kill a single one of these 9 invaders, because I'm shit.
>>422638847I had a co-invader heel turn against me earlier today and that motherfucker had the gall to bow after raping my ass. I had the opportunity to reinvade the same host and you bet your ass I had my rope shit grenades on the hotbar for when I dumptrucked that reduvia spamming faggot.
>>422640028>because I'm shitAlso because you have like zero upgrades on your weapon, like seriously, is it +0?
>>422640154>dying to reduviaoof
I just want some jolly ng+ co-op without going to ng+ before the DLC. fuck.
>>422640160you can upgrade weapons?
>>422640335At least they leveled vigor SOME, 40 vigor is honestly more than I see regularly on these Kevins
This one isn't pvp related, I just found it funny. I had no idea jumping on a troll's face caused it to...whatever this is. It played the stance break sound and it flinched.>>422640160+3 is my max. I was using a +0 weapon in some fights but I ran out of stones before I could upgrade it and didn't want to use the ones I had for pvp. But I think the thing that would have made a bigger difference would have been if I had stuck an elemental ash on one of them instead. But looking at my +3 short spear and comparing it to the AR of my +0 halberd, I'm not sure if the upgrade level itself would have gotten me any kills here.
>>422640427I honestly can't tell if you're serious. Yes, you can upgrade stuff to max +3 at the anvil near Kalé in the Church of Elleh, and later normal weapons to +25 and somber weapons to +10.
>>422640575dealth 1 dmg to his face by jumping. any hit to the face makes that happen.
>>422640575Trolls are extremely sensitive to damage to the face, any hit at all will stagger them.
>>422640575isn't there some item/npc that talks about trolls being weak in the face or something?>>422640585nah i'm just playing
>>422640575Doing a jumping attack to the top of those flame spewing machines in Caelid causes an instant death special backstab to them.
>>422640790You have to actually hit the vent on top of them though. Also they explode, so don't stick around.
>>422640714one of the merchants sells a note that talks about it, not sure which one
>>422630550Good shit my man
Which minor erdtree has the most guardians that I can farm? It's the one in Caelid, isn't it?
>>422641990i farmed the ones outside golden axe godfrey ghost i think. it's been a long time so maybe not
>>422641990Dragonbarrow has the most
The DLC WILL have talismans that alternate your movements, right?
>>422642392>ninja flipping bull-goatcan't wait
>replay elden ring many months later>never really found my weaponfu on my first two playthroughs>try out a regen build, great stars with prayerful strike>mfw landing a triple kill hit on mobs literally within like 5 minutes of testing it out and getting ~93% of my hp backholy shit. this may be love at first sight, lads.
>>422631456may allah bring dark hours and disaster upon co-oppers
jar cannon or ballista, and why
>>422642505Now offhand Rykard's sword and equip Taker's Cameo, too.
>>422643020Jar Cannon is always better unless you can't meet the wielding or weight requirements.
>>422643020Jar Cannon has a higher STR requirement, lower DEX requirement and weights more. If you're okay with hard swapping and have enough STR, Jar Cannon is strictly better.It also looks cooler.
>>422635243NG+ or over leveled. Your data doesn’t count
>>422643516Huh? I'm like level 30ish with +3 weapon level.
>>422632306>Summoning in general is okay and so are spirit ashes.Debatable. As long as you summon people within your level/upgrade range it isn't a big deal, and spirit ashes are unusable in most PvP so those don't matter>If someone wants to steamroll its their choice.Again, debatable. If the game was solo/co-op only it wouldn't matter if they do that, but unfortunately this isn't a co-op game, it's a PvPvE game where the co-op is an invitation for invaders to invadeSummoning your end-game buddy who can endlessly shit out Elden Stars that actually deal damage while you're at the very beginning of the game doesn't just squander your first playthrough, it also basically forces invaders to be as scummy as they can be because otherwise they literally can't do anything against the password summons
>>422635243Jesus christ, that guy. What a fucking scrub.
>>422643516>anon deals 95 damage with an r1>anon 2 claims "ng+ or overleveled"
>>422644027I suspect he's someone who just doesn't know what 40 vig looks like and sees a large healthbar and assumes its like level 100. So in other words, a viglet.
>>422643591Damn, I saw a shit ton of health and was surprised. I never see that much health on hosts in stormveil
>>422644314Its 37+3 (with soreseal) vigor, to be specific. Plus the erdtree favor. I always go 40 vigor before I even look at my other stats.
is there any point in going to NG+ 2?
>>422644818as much as going to NG+ 1
>>422644818None whatsoever.Make a new character, pump VIG, STR and invade at low levels. Join the chad family.
>>422644934Well I guess you’ll miss out then
>invading stormveil for varre's quest>taunter's tongue host not playing the level, just fishing for duels>VIG gouge poiseblob spamming running R2 R2 with bloodflame blade spiked caestus
>>422645026is invading really that fun?I was planning to buy the game next month.
>>422644934>>422645223Just play modded until then, I see there's a ton of stuff out there.
>>422644818some builds are not great going the organic, normal path.
>>422644818There really isn't a point in ever leaving NG>>422644934WelpYou should buy it if you canJoin the invaderchads, as familyTOGETHAAAaawwwe will decimate the co-op menace
>>422645223No, absolutely notMessages are fun. Co-op can be fun. Invading is never fun and has not been fun since Dark Souls 2
>>422645627You solely grave lorded in ds2 didn’t you?
>>422645223I mean, I get hundreds of hours of fun out of invading after I've played the PVE content, but your mileage may wary. There's just nothing else like it, the closest thing is WPVP in MMOs.
>>422645223It's a blast
>>422645223It's ludokino, as the kids say
>>422646143man i wish it were actually possible to find 2v2s like that, its so incredibly rare but its the funnest thing ever when it happens
>>422645627>invading>dark souls 2uhh no? ds2 had the bell tower which was fun and fcs were decent but invading was fucked from the start with having to grind for orbs and soul memory. almost nobody did it. ds3s was sometimes fun at lower levels and the watchdog and aldrich covenants were a blast. 6 player lobby cap was awesome for fcs. 2 had a decent end game pvp scene but 3 had that too and also the best pvp experience in the series. dark souls 2 still makes me upset and disappointed with how many bad decisions went into it
KlLL OMENS. BEHEAD OMENS. ROUNDHOUSE KICK AN OMEN INTO THE CONCRETE. SLAM DUNK AN OMEN BABY INTO THE TRASHCAN. CRUCIFY FILTHY HORN NIGGERS. DEFECATE IN A OMENS FOOD. LAUNCH OMENS INTO THE SUN. STIR FRY OMENS IN A WOK. TOSS OMENS INTO ACTIVE VOLCANOES. KICK AN OMEN IN THE TESTICLES IF THEY HAD ANY. URINATE INTO AN OMEN'S HOME (THE SEWER). JUDO THROW AN OMEN INTO RYKARD'S MOUTH. TWIST OMENS HORNS OFF. REPORT OMENS TO THE GOLDEN ORDER AND OMEN KILLERS. KARATE CHOP OMENS IN HALF. CURB STOMP PREGNANT. TRAP OMENS IN QUICKSAND. CRUSH OMENS IN THE TRASH COMPACTOR. LIQUEFY OMENS WITH ROTTEN BREATHE. EAT OMEN BABIES. DISSECT OMENS ALIVE. EXTERMINATE OMENS IN THE GAS CHAMBER.
You know you may be a disgusting fursona creature, but we make a good team. yiff on Blaidd, yiff on.
>>422646143Yeah, it's a major fucking bummer. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I've only had like 4 or 5 2v2s that were this good in 900 hours of playing. The way that blues work needs to be changed so 2v2s happen way more often.
>>422646638>Invade a host with only 1 summon>Within 10 seconds a blue spawns in>Invade a host with 2 summons>Within 10 seconds of me killing one of the summons a blue spawns in>Invade a lone host, surprisingly, for a change>Within 10 seconds 2 blues spawn inAgreed, shit is ridiculous
>>4226468831 invader, 1 bluekill blue, get co-invader
>make it so solo players can be invaded agani>but now, if theyre using the ring, the invasion wont happen until matchmaking happens and a blue is also found, spawning both in at oncethis seems like a fair compromise
>occult raptor's talons>Eleonora's>regalia of Eochaid>Millicent's prosthesis>rotten winged sword insignia>lord of blood's exultationWhat should I have in the last talisman slot for this ridiculous arc build?
>>422647501godskin swaddle cloth for hp on hit?
>yfw the DLC introduces a Physick capacity upgrade
At this point I've given up on the idea of them balancing or "fixing" invasions at all and am hoping they just add chalice dungeons with PVP or something similarly stupid in the expansion
waah waah why can't i invade lone rl 20 hosts with my 150 metachad build waahat least i can seek peace in my hugbox general... wish we gad upvotes and stuff though
>>422647685Ehhh, it's kind of shit. I'm mainly using the claws, and it takes 7 hits for it to even proc once.
>be me >summon help for boss>guys show up>I walk through fog wall>they start walking through fog wall>I one show boss>they arrive>they leaveYou're welcome for the loading screens
How the turn tables
>>422630550Incredibly, almost painfully based. You prevented another white mask shitter, even if only for a little while given the gifter was likely save scumming given the rune stacks. When a white mask fag is inconvenienced all is right and just in the world
>>422645223It's not for everybody, and it ultimately depends on what you're looking for out of the game. If you want a challenge and a chance to be a creative asshole, then it's definitely for you. But if you're a guide-reader and only want to play through the game for the experience, you probably won't like it.
Why does fire giant attack you. Wouldnt he be one that really wants to see the tree burn?Also why is he all fucked up
>>422648917Some of these are too perfect, you arent changing your randomizer encounters to make a funny are you?
>>422649114I exclusively play minecraft for 1.6 pvp. is invading right for me?
>>422649114I prefer just using and arc and dabbing on invaders.
>>422649147>Why does fire giant attack you."Stay away from my flame!">Also why is he all fucked upLast survivor of the war against the giants.
>>422646604Careful anon, you might be shittalking blaidd’s appearance now but with that white woman tarnished of yours we both just know what’ll be happening soon enough.
>>422649152Nope, just one randomizer seed. I've gotten super lucky getting late game bosses as early game.
>>422649596She only fucks 4 legged dogs, I'll be okay until the Academy again.
>>422649670>stay away from my bro!
>>422649670Hes almost the exact size as that skeleton
>>422649147The Fire Giant is a survivor of the War against the Giants. Upon realizing the flames of their forge would never die, Queen Marika marked him with a curse. "O trifling giant, mayest thou tend thy flame for eternity."
>>422646221>>422646638Why not go to arenaI invade to set up ambushes and use the level in dickish waysIf I want a 2v2 in an empty room I'd go to the arena
If I'm doing a knight themed build are there any spells from either school worth using that would fit in line with the theme? I know there's golden order stuff but I want it to be more ordinary knight and those are too paladin-ish.
>>422650149Invasions are not duels. I also want to invade/get invaded with ambuses and use the level in dickish ways, but in a 2v2. I mean honestly a 2v3 would be fine too.
>>422650163Glintblades, scholars buffs, all the sorceries that turn your staff into a sword
>>422650163Any knight would probably enjoy the advantage of enchanting his blade on a whim. So any weapon enchanting spells like poison armament, electrify armament etc. And they're all pretty low investment cost iirc.
>>422649326Invading is mostly about taking on unfavorable odds (fighting 2v1 or 3v1 against people who are at least as strong as you) and using your tools and skills to come out on top. There is the asshole element of course, but a lot of the joy also comes from running through an entire level and baiting the host's party into traps and hordes of enemies, and using the chaos and distraction to your advantage.It's stupidly difficult and unfair and you certainly won't win all the time (moreso if you fight gank squads who try to stack every possible advantage they can), but when you do win the dopamine hit is like nothing else.
>>422650254>and use the level in dickish ways, but in a 2v2You pretty much never get that because the other co-invader always goes straight for the kill. And there is little reason not to when odds are even, desu. Almost all 2v2s end up quickly being very much comparable to their arena equivalents. I mean I still do agree with you, but it's not that much of a disparity.
>Invade some jap and his password summon at Stormveil>Kill the summon>Dude just fucking runs around, eventually re-developing his confidence after re-summoning his password summon>Password summon just dies to the Omen immediately>Still tries to just fucking run from me and circle the area, never EVER trying to attack me without the help of his password summon>Eventually sits in the long room between the courtyard and the grafting room, up in the rafters, waiting for me to engage him>I eventually do so, he runs out towards the courtyard>Runs around more, I block his password summon when I realize he means to re-summon him AGAIN>He tries to re-summon, can't>Runs around some more, attempts to re-summon him AGAIN after it failed>I blow him upHumiliation and suffering have been decreed upon you
>>422650149>Why not go to arena>spend 10 minutes finding a match>my partner disconnects right at the start>my opponents are clearly a password team with synergizing buildsFFA and duels can be fun but fuck team shit.>>422638090Dual Vyke's feels overpowered even at level 80, it must be hell to fight it at Stormveil.
Praetor Rykard? FBI.
I actually think I've never encountered a 1v2 I couldn't win, or at least felt relatively fair/not very unbalanced. Its just 1v3s that are fucking crazy, I have no idea what they were thinking doing that. If invasions capped at 1v2 for one phantom and 2v3 for 2 phantoms they'd be 20x more fun.
>>422649968>O trifling giantThis feeds into my theory that the Fire Giant is a runt compared to the REAL giants. I mean, look at the mindbogglingly huge skulls littered around Caelid and the Mountaintops.
>>4226511761v3 are almost all winnable IMO, it all depends on how and when you engage them
>password summon is in tree sentinel armor and using moonveil>a single transient moonlight does 50% of my HP>get below 50%>guy just sticks to me without attacking>if I heal, I'll get hit for 50% of my HP and nothing changes>if I attack him to get him off me, he out-poises me and I get hit for 50% of my HP and dieWhat do you even do in this situation? Feint and hail parry?>>422651040Does it at least give you serpent-hunter?
>>422649968wow Marika dommy mommy'd an entire race of Titans into extinction.
>>422639462why do you do no damage, or is this the power of vit gouge
>>422651398Quickly turn around like you're gonna turn and burn but then just as quickly turn back, might psyche him out and make him attack on reaction
>>422651176Eh, I've run into a few unwinnable 2v1s. It's either people who actually know how to PVP and are ganking with weapons with good synergy or level 713 chinks.>password phantom poiseblob>casts elden stars>casts stars of ruins>softswaps to dual occult naginata>bleeds me out in one L1They're almost all like this
>>422651398>Does it at least give you serpent-hunter?It does, thankfully and the magma doesn't damage you. You're forced to use it though, because he has a nonexistent hitbox if you try hitting him with anything else.
>>422651398>if I attack him to get him off me, he out-poises me>what do you even do in this situation? Feint and hail parry?Equip something that can poisebreak him, like a halberd or claymore.Low and mid levels are gayer than meta when it comes to poise blobs because of password summons.
>>422651780I was using a CGS. It just wasn't working out. I think I really need to go get night maiden's mist for situations like this, lmao.
>>422651398I honestly bank on killing the host. If I see such person from afar (and you should always try to evaluate who's using what) I just setup an ambush near an elite enemy and try to kill the host. Usually such summons are overzealous and will ignore the enemy in favour of trying to kill me.
>180 day ban>ban supposed to end in May-ishso the 180 hard ban passes with real time and not ingame time right
>>422652878What'd you get banned for?
>>422635243Oh no, he's twinking in a game full of overleveled phantoms, the horror
>>422653003deliberate use of error items and stuff, wanted to take a break.
What's a good paladin glamour for low levels/not yet very high endurance values?
>>422653151Just slap the bucket helm from Caelid on any vaguely iron or steel armor
What boss has made you rage the hardest in er or any souls games and did you break a keyboard/batter a female/say gamer words?
>>422654051Probably Friede or Malenia.
How do I get this item that's near the Fingerprint Shield?
>>422654235dw u need the old codger u break the shit
>>422654051I called my friend a nigger after beating Godskin Duo
>>422654051Gargoyle DuoI did it with 12 vigor and fashionscape armor (mage). I'm sure I did at least a solid 60-80+ attempts over the span of maybe two days. I beat them eventually with pretty much <%1 health left
>>422654051I think the only boss I've ever raged on on any game was the final boss of dragon star arena on eso.
>>422655014Actually I've raged a lot playing eso. Soulskiroborne game are super comfy to me.
>play elden ring>swing at enemy>the attack goes right through the enemy, dealing no damage
>>422655305sorry my bad i shouldve just enabled the hitboxes
>>422655416finger horse but hole
>>422655256>>422655416I wish there was a sort of replay button you can press that showed you what happened around the time you pressed the button and you could enable hitboxes, collision boxes, etc.
I miss games having a secret big head mode. That'd be great in er
>>422655571the problem is that they start late as fuck into the animation (way after your weapon start gaining momentum), barely extend in length and on the sides and at best it encompasses the blade (grip hitbox not included. ive even seen a clip of someone fighting malenia then they did a heavy attack while being too close to her so it missed and he died because of it.
>Outside of the chalice dungeons, I personally laid out all the maps in Bloodborne, something I like doing a lot. That connects to the sense of achievement I talked about, too. Adding flow and meaning to the map structure helps provide a sort of joy to the player, the fun of drawing up a map of the land in your mind. That adds value to player actions. Along those lines, it's a really game-like design, I think. I really like that kind of thing.I get the feeling he didn't do so in Elden Ring. Maybe Stormveil, at most.
>>422654051Malenia made me drop the game for a solid month before I came back and beat her, but thats mostly because I was burnt out on the game by the time I reached her.
>>422655840It's open world, so no, he probably didn't do that.
>>422656069I was thinking something was off with the legacy dungeons too, though. A lot of them lack shortcuts and just rely on you going from grace to grace. Stormveil is the exception, not the rule.
>>422656157It's because it suffers from the typical From problem. The starting areas are super detailed while the later areas in the game... not so much. This probably happens with other games, too, but I wouldn't know since I play mostly From games.
>>422656228Not entirely true. Raya Lucaria was the first map they made, not Stormveil. I do agree Limgrave is front-loaded as hell though.
>>422656228How was Deracine?
>>422630337INT, easiest range build imo. So easy it causes retardation. Even if you go pure caster you have access to a variety of melee spells that aren't FP heavy and are relatively quick to cast unlike Faith. It's a good build as long as you have 55+ to 60 vigor at meta level assuming you dabble in online (even if you don't, pump your vig regardless).>>422640335God, your Giant-Crusher was blocking your view of that mage on the second Moonveil hit.>>422653151>>422653514Seconded. Bucket helm and any Surcoat, preferably either the Tree Surcoat or the Eye Surcoat for that 11th century crusader knight look. Tree Surcoat is easier to grab since you only need to buy it off of the Nomadic Merchant at Altus Plateau, with the only boss you need to kill to get there is the Magma Wyrm at the end of Ruin-Strewn Precipice going up to Altus.
>>422655256>spear running 2hr1It's so bad that just thinking about it makes me cringe.
>>422656302Really? It doesn't feel like it. Raya Lucaria is the 2nd best area in the game for me right after Stormveil. They must have put more effort into stormveil once they knew it was going to be the 1st legacy dungeon the people would find.
> do low level coop> summoned for Margit, pretty standard, I have Margit shackle on pouch because I get summoned here so often > host is Vagabond but with 2H Zweihander, respectable, most are samurai or astrologer > he doesn’t go through fog, instead points back through tunnel> starts running away from Margit > ok, I guess I’ll follow > wander down the road killing every single enemy in the way> talk to Roderika> head east, still killing every enemy we see> talk to Bernahl > keep going east, killing every enemy, chest in camp is empty, so host has been here before > go check on Alexander, but he’s not there, host looks genuinely confused> cross bridge and clear graveyard of skellies > Host is actually decent at game, pretty much charge R2’s, then ripostes everything, but his spacing and timing is good, think he got hit once during entire journey > talk to D, again listening to full dialog, takes long time so no skipping was done > reach Tibia Mariner> demolish it very quickly> host is jumping up and down and doing all kinds of happy gestures > 20 mins later> same host summoned me for Patches’ cave> he obviously leveled STR and or END since he’s one-handing the Zweihander with a shield now > clear the cave > host guard counters literally every bandit in there> host seems confused in boss room, doesn’t open chest, he’s looking around > attacks the chest > eventually opens it> host guard-counters patches over and over, one-handed Collosal swords get lots of hyper armour it seems > step in to make sure host doesn’t kill patches after he surrenders > he doesn’t, but seems extremely wary> Decide to check his PSN profile afterwards. > Platnium trophy for Elden Ring, both ps4 and ps5 versions > Platniums in every single souls game, including what I assume is all 3 regional ps3 variants of DeS> also Platnium in Nioh 1&2, Wo Long, Surge 1&2, Lords of the Fallen, Mortal Shell and Code Vein, What was his endgame?
too long not reading
>>422656228Bet you didn't even play the Adventures of Cookie & Cream. How can you call yourself a true fan of FromSoft games?
Jesus bosses melt if you have a guy using Black Knife and another Malikeths weapon and they do their Ash of War. Throw in blackflames there for good measure.
>>422656838Just wanted company, I guess?
why does poker deal less damage than a straight sword?
>>422657389it's an L2-stick with a misleading AR rating. the higher your INT the more damage the ash of war does.
>>422656838Maybe he took a break and forgot how far he was in that save file.
>>422657389Death poker is a very high level weapon. It doesn't shine fully until you're at least level 200 since it's a fucking quality int weapon.On super high levels it's one of the most powerful things in the game. Same with prince of death staff.
how's ma /fa/? think i might farm somma the knights at stormviel castle for their boots and gloves
Photoanon here, mind if I share some of the picture?
Can I make a decent invader build at 90 or 120 that makes use of carian spells and triple rings of light? Completely seperate build idea. How can I make vykes dragon bolt work? I want to be a cool looking red lightning man.
>>422658814Cant go wrong with Greathelm. The rest looks alright, nice muddy palette of colors, what are the gloves?
>>422657508Nah this was definitely a fresh character. Margit was alive, and D was in Limgrave which means he hasn’t even visited Roundtable yet. But he was acting like he didn’t know anything, but has 100%’d the game twice, as well as 100%ing pretty much every game in the genre.It did make me realise how poorly placed summoning pools are though, if someone wants help with a open world boss like Tibia Mariner (for whatever reason) then yeah, you have to summon people at Margit and make the whole party walk across entire top half of Limgrave. Some field bosses have summon pools right next to them, and sometimes there’s summon pools with no nearby boss (like before Greyoll, but summon pool is just in a bush and not close to any grace), but then other field bosses have no way to reliably coop them.
>>422658814> might farm somma the knights at stormviel castle for their boots and glovesBanished Knight legs look really bad, I wouldn’t bother. What chest is that, I’m mentally blanking.
>the higher your level, the less fun the game ishow can a RPG game escape this faith?
Invaders who show up and just fucking toy with you are the worst. Just go for the host and kill them, don't just follow people around and be a fucking nuisance, never quite killing anyone.There should be a time limit on invasions, if you haven't killed the host in, say, ten minutes, you just fucking lose.
>>422654051The Watchdog in that one half health dungeon in Bloodbrone
today I will ignore unnecessary sidequests kill more bosses and make my way to the haligtree without cooping with randoms in raya lucaria because im boredspeaking of, is 60 w+8/s+3 the wrong weapon range for, eh, after raya is the slot im aiming for.I assumed since my level 11 gets coop in raya that 60 would be altus caelid leyndell for the brave, but no I still get margit sometimes.I will be invading permanently on this one once I get her katana.
>>422649019I don't think it was a mule or cheater though. A couple numens and some golden rune  isn't a cheater move. Cheaters just have stacks of Lord Runes. >>422659434Get fucked pussy
>>422659460hot dog is easy once you learn the movesetmagma wyrm sort of inherited bits of it (the burning charge)now, depth 20 rom........... I literally gave up, and Ive beaten lingering will.
I miss dark souls 2 so much. Fuck any and all enemies that do not fit on your screen, and fuck any and all enemies that get stuck on terrain. Open world bosses were a mistake.I miss bosses that are dudes in armor.
>>422659904fuck this guy
I just beat Maliketh, but unlocked the hidden path to Haligtree just before. Should I keep going to normal route of ashedLleyndell or explore the hidden path area first?
I doubt you could even imagine it...
>>422659802Elden Ring is full of dudes in armor.
What the hell is wrong with this guy?
>>422660097Go do Halig. Ashen Leyndell is short and the last thing before the final bosses
>>422660097Doesn't matter at this point. You should have explored the Haligtree before defeating Maliketh.
>>422660164Nothing? He's a living pot. Heat makes them stronger.
>>422660164Nothing, he's immune to fire.
>>422660164he's a bit cracked
>>422660097ash is endgame, go do the "optional" superboss first.
Seriously thinking about making a base level astrologer run to turn him into a mule for any sort of INT build later37 INT on level 6 sounds fucking busted
>>422660187>You should have explored the Haligtree before defeating Malikethoh fuck whyi thought haligtree was the final area befroe i got to pasta fazul or whatever its called
>no option to talk some sense into Diallos and continue his original goal of sabotaging Volcano Manor from within>no option to protect Jarburg>no chance to even avenge Jarburg
>>422660420I can't tell you without spoilers, but basically you missed out on some dialog and an incantation. You should defeat all Shardbearers before Maliketh.
>>422660542You can get Gideon's incantations from the Twin Husk if you missed them from him.
>>422645928This makes me wish plunging attacks were still a thingJump R2s and R1s are fun but they're no replacement for descending from a great height above and delivering judgement pic somewhat related
>>422660617I didn't know that, but that's kind of dumb.
>>422660542>>422660617well fuck no wonder he randomly dissipated
Reminder for anyone still dumb enough to believe AC is getting in the way of Shadow of the Erdtree's development >4Gamer: Another question I had was if the teams working on Bloodborne and Dark Souls II are completely different or not.>Miyazaki: They are totally separate teams. At From Software, we have the development resources to work on two so-called “high-end” games simultaneously. Bloodborne is one of those titles, and we've been working on it in parallel with Dark Souls II.
>>422660790I asked and I care
>>422660723>looks at how ds2 turned out compared to bloodborneahaHAHAHAHA
>>422660542>missed out on dialog because lol sikret areathat's so fucking annoying
How crazy would it be if you could only access the DLC after beating the game, but before starting your next Journey? And then it actually took your chosen ending into account.
>>422660824What I find funnier is Miyazaki considers Dark Souls 2 just as "high-end" as Bloodborne. The man is humble to a fault.
Why does the Age of Fracture ending even exist? How can you mend the Elden Ring without a Mending Rune of some kind? You should be required to defeat all the Sharbearers and collect all the Great Runes for that. If a player hasn't done that, or hasn't collected any Mending Runes, they shouldn't be able to actually complete the game.
>>422660865It's not major dialog.
>>422659630That's just it though, they just refuse to fuck the hosts and faff about uselessly, just being an element of annoyance.
>>422661089it's still fucking annoying for a game of this scale
>>422660893No, they won't do this. Every game progressively made accessing DLC easier and easier. It's probably going to be gated behind killing two shardbearers at most. Although if they want to do something different they will allow you to just access it by fulfiling some requirements like creating dreambrew and getting Miquella's attention.
Headcanon time: Those Who Live In Death are only fucked up skelemen because Death is outside the Golden Order. Upon using Fia's Mending Rune, TWID become Dark-Souls-style Undead who still look human.
>get the idea to make a new invader>go around collecting parts, defeating bosses>finish build>lose all motivation to invade>get the idea to make a new invadersomeoneanyonetell me why
>>422661179Every single video game ever has miss-able content if you progress too far in the main story.
>>422661227>upon using Fia's Mending Rune*or Goldmasks Mending Rune of PERFECT orderin my opinion. at least, it would make them human again and then not undead(?) I mean, I cast it I assume including all of natures aspects would fix things in this way.
>>422661202I really hope there’s no main game progression requirement, I wanna be able to acsess DLC weapons and spells right away on fresh characters. I don’t care if I have to run past or cheese Haligtree tier enemies or bosses. I wanna fight Margit at level 15 with a +0 DLC weapon.Hopefully it’s just somewhere in Altus, or maybe Siofra (although that would likely be too early game, and tons of clueless new players would stumble in without knowing what was going on)Mohgwyn palace would be ok, but that still requires 1 shardbearer. If it is at Miquella’s cocoon that would be hilarious, needing to beat Mohg at low level now that all the good glitches have been patched (RIP chainsaw) is not easy. And that’s 2 demigods required.But I’m worried it’s going to acsessed post Leyndell, which just kills any chance of getting DLC items early. Hopefully not.
>>422661552Honestly, I have no idea what Goldmask's ending even entails. It seems very Lawful Evil to me. It makes it so that the Holder of the Elden Ring cannot rebel against the Greater Will, right?
>>422661323other games don't try as hard as Souls shit to be 2cryptic4u
>>422661720Barely. You didn't miss out on anything important.
>>422660393It can be 43 with Marika's Soreseal.
>>422660187>You should have explored the Haligtree before defeating Maliketharen't they both shard bearers why does this even matter anyway
>>422661659>It makes it so that the Holder of the Elden Ring cannot rebel against the Greater Will, right?no it makes it so NOTHING can change the fixed ring. not "god" not demigods not you not some other tarnished, no one.
>>422660542>>422661761>not important>ooh spoilers lol
>>422661868gideon gives you spells for going to, and defeating the bosses in, haligtree and moghywnI hope you picked up black flame protect for malenia.
>>422661868>aren't they both shard bearersNo.>why does this even matter anywayAfter defeating Maliketh, Gideon leaves the Hold.
>>422661917Because this whole mess started because Marika started fucking with it right?That's the impression I got anyway.
>>422661986In English, sir?
jesus christ the shit in this thread fully justifies me having multiplayer turned off. i just want to play my video game in peace. we can be sweaty pvp tourneyfags AFTER i beat the game once.
>>422661287I did this and now I'm up to 20+ builds with a still a few more ideas in my head but I'm gonna hold off until dlc
>>422662069no the GW created infinite iteration which created cursed demigods, which lead to marika removing death, for some reason probably involving godwyn.may chaos take the-ehem.....so you want to repair the ring properly and include everyone so there is no more conflict, then lock everyone even yourself out of fucking up again.the way I see it its like the 33 orb ending in noita. fracture would be turning the world to gold....either way. (noitas know why this is a bad)
>was going to do Haligtree before Maliketh >decided to do Maliketh first>lol you fucked upthis made me drop the game last year desu
>>422662218what do you lose if you kill maliketh before doing haligtree?
>>422662218ngl I did my best not to spoiler myself, but I absolutely read all the sidequests ahead of time.fuck am I doing ng+2 to get dung eater puppet, spells that would have been locked behind dead people, missing things. I have too much OCD for that.and despite that, I still explored everything manually and had alot of fun along the way, and only checked that I didn't go too far.
>>422662143what so hard to understandif it's not important why is it considered a spoiler
>>422662206I don't think we have enough solid information about all the moving parts here.
>>422662218no not one line from gideon...
>>422662339>>422662064>>422662035-->>422662402well yeah it is headcanon. I treat the outer gods or more specifically the concept of the elden ring like domains, or aspects, in DnD. Death was removed, causing infinite life, too much life, cursed life....and then the intro begins.
is it even ever made clear that maliketh is a point of no returni honestly thought haligtree was the last area not an optional one
>>422662492its better to have than a text pop-up after beating maliketh saying the bitch at rountable has new shit for sale and him just randomly fucking offit's shit design
>>422662580pretty sure melina tells you outright at the forge that you have a one way trip (you can still warp before you beat dog though)the medalion for the haligtree is "missable" and the quest that goes from raya to the mountains should have been a pretty good hint.
>this is what a master sorcerer looks likeYeah, I think I'll go with incantations for my next playthrough instead of sorceries.
>>422662736There are different types of sorcerersA cool one is uncle Jerren who is literally a wandering eccentric battlemage
>>422656838>all 3 regional ps3 variants of DeSyou found john dark souls himself
>>422662492what's the one line thenwhy care about spoilers
>>422663018I don't think Jerren can really be called a sorcerer, he only casts one spell.
>>422630550Love it. I like approaching quietly when it's obvious both parties are in their menus and just waiting for a glowing yellow goodie to appear on the ground for the yoinking. Had a guy sending furious hatemail last night after I stole his godskin peeler and Lionel helm
>>422663614>had a guy sending furious hatemailshow
>help random at godrick>sends message thanking me saying he was stuck on that boss for 4 days4 days man... seriously...
>>422663970How? Margit is harder.
>>422663536Jerren is a witch hunter...
>>422663970this is why i invade
>>422630238Would it really be that bad a thing to 'accidentally' shove Seluvis off a cliff?
>>422663970people get stuck on godrick? lmaoI beat him first time every time, even on my level 11.>>422663989margit is harder than morgott if you level up at all.
>>422663996meaning he hunts witches
why are most of the quests so ass and have shit endings?
>>422664231small indie company
>>422664231ER is actually their happiest game in terms of NPC endings
>>422664498happy ending =/= good ending
>>422664498Nah not really noAlmost all of the NPC we met die horrible deaths
Ruins GS brought to you by: Storm Wall parry on crucible knightSuggest other Great or Colossal weaponsI am already using: Lion's Claw Greataxe, Broadsword (for sword and board), Rusted Anchor (will probably swap for the Pickaxe)
>>422646265I sense possible hostility...Do we ever see female Omens? Logically there should be some. I wonder how they'd be as girlfriends or waifus. And if you could survive sex with them.
>decide to co-op for a change>get summoned at the grand cloister>Host needs help with the tree spirit>start fighting and get it to 30%>realise that host is literally hiding while I'm doing all the work>go next to him and get him killed>he summons me again and he hides againBro... what is going through those people's head ?Anyways he died during astel and i was acting like i was fighting the boss
>Invading another world...>spawn in the middle of Liurnia>2 phantoms and a host staring in different directions emoting like a Christian rock album cover>sever
>>422664670watch dogs big staffno int? no problemI want to recommend this, but its not as good as the pizza cutter in bloodborne.
>>422665181its clearly a finger...oh shit, its clearly a finger, what does it mean?
If Miyazaki modeled NPCs after big content creators for Elden Ring (Gideon = vaati) who is Dung Eater?
Malformed armor resembling an Omen with its horns cut off.Worn by the Dung Eater. The heavy, sun-shaped medallion represents both the guidance he once saw, and the ring to which it will one day lead.>how do they know what the sun is when the erdtree is the sun
>EAC breaks out>verify integrity of game files to fix it>average FPS drops from 60 to 30????????
>>422665798Look dude they forgot to code in the Sun
>>422665798read sun realm shield, and everything related to nox. and the fell god spell.tldr: the sun has faded
>int has literally 1 weaponinb4 wing of trashtel
>>422665573Literally all they had to do is to make it a halberd and give all attacks a multi hit property. Then it would potentially eclipse the pizza cutter itself
>>422664670Swap Lions Claw Greataxe for a Lions Claw Greathammer (any will do), very similar moveset but a lot more poise damage. Greataxe Lions Claw does 33 poise damage. Greathammer Lions Claw does 42 poise damage. Since a lot of bosses have 80 poise, or 120 poise, that’s a significant difference. One less Lions Claw to poise break.Although a Giant Crusher or Prelates Crozzier do 45 poise damage on Lions Claw, so they are even better. Although weight and stat requirements are huge for a pretty small poise damage gain.
>>422665972>int has literally 1 weaponim ok with this>>422665993the L2 just needs SOME hyper frames. not wild strikes but some.
>>422666017alabaster lord’s sword
>>422654051Mohg made me break my keyboard and charmless Genichiro made me put a dent in my PC case
>>422665972Darkmoon Greatsword Claymans HarpoonBastards Stars I assume your post was in reference to Moonveil. And there’s nothing wrong with Wing of Astel.
>>422666183>dogshit midsword>gayman’s hartroon>anons starsLOL
>>422666183I forgot about the solar system on a stick, its nebula is better than the wing.
>>422665798Reminder that Dung Eater is an Omenaboo
>>422666360this just raises further questions, who the fuck is he really?
>>422666264Death ritual spearRoyal greatsword Helphen steeple or whatever it's calledAlso literally so many weapons infused with cold are int weapons
>>422666360Trans-Omen, if you will.
What's the strongest PVE build I could reasonably make at RL25? Feel like doing some Stormveil co-op
>>422666446>Free jump R2 Ritual Spear>Free Backstab Greatshit>Help, i'msheeple These are good copes... but what's really happening is every mage casting the same 3 spells they've been using since launch.Launch of demon's souls that is. LOL.
>>422665972moonveildark moonwing of astelbastards starsonyx and ivory lord swordsclayman harpooncarian swordcrystal swordrotten crystal swordcrystal spearrotten crystal spearcrystal knifelazuli glintbladedeaathrite spearhelphen steepletroll knight swordradahn paired swordsruins greatsword
>>422665181>>422665675It means nothing because the blue outline is absolute bullshit. It does not follow the land at all.It means as much as pic related.
I-i think l-launching shock frost waves w-with dark moon is cool...
>>422665972int has better and cooler weapons than fth :(
>>422666667>shitsticksIt's just funny that they put in all these godawful weapons to troll mages into wasting stats.
>>422665972Cold Misercode / Cold Parrying Dagger
>>422666835I think launching my cock in your ass would be cool
>>422666445NPCs with their armor removedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu_Q9TwF5XcDungeater looks better with his helmet on.(Tanith is a surprise. Patches can pick them, after all.)
mage niggas be like>yo rate the build bro.. i took 60 out of mind and put it into vig this time
>>422665798The sun is the sun, anon. The game world has a sun that travels across the sky. The erdtree isn't the sun. You can watch the sun set over the coast of the weeping peninsula in the evening. It's gorgeous.
>>422667098gideon looks like the old guy from power rangers lmao
Man. I really hope they bring Melina back for the expansion. Do you think they will?
>>422667187Imagine the faces of metaniggers once DLCs comes out and all normies will start hitting level 200 just by playing casually
What are the poise breakpoints again?I booted up a character I haven't touched in months and they have 81 poise for some reason. Does this number mean anything?
>>422665972have you ever blown someone up with death poker?
>>422667098Messy sex hair Millicent was better than her regular hair
>>422667553They won't "bring her back" if he's dead but they certainly can expand her roleFor example make it so that Miquella was the one to ask her to look after us
>>422667607speaking of such MAGIE, the perfect metaslave? methinks yes.
>>422667607Since 150-200 is the vastly superior range, I think it'll be a strict improvement across the board.The DLC launch patch is probably going to rescale stat investments the way that DaS3's did, to shift the level curve up and compensate for the extra runes gained from the DLC content.My guess is that the damage from going up to 80 in a damage stat is gonna go way up, and our max health will increase by 2-500 to compensate
>>422667553Considering the promo image had a shota miquella not COCOONED I'd say it's likely that the DLC will be set before the events of the game, or otherwise in a world that doesn't have direct continuity with our game progress. So we're likely to meet a lot of characters--even ones who died-- under different contexts.We're probably also going to meet Shabriri in a different body.
can we get some actually fucking deadly dragons that are fun to fight?the only good ones were Placidusax and Zombie Dragon
Who's the Boris Yeltsin of the Lands Between?
>>422668809DLC will introduce a blood and frenzy dragon :)
>>422654117>>422654361>friedeHow? You could literally run behind her and chain backstab her to death.
>>422668818Yeltsin plays himself
>>422654051unironically Dungeater and that FUCKING CRAB who pushes him towards you
>>422668229The safest bet about DLC is a dream world, or some sort of collective consciousness that exists as a spirit world with Erdtree being its main server. Which means they can mangle different eras and people all into one DLC like Bloodborne did it, and Ringed City too, to some extent.
Consider:Miquella's consciousness is currently residing within the Death Prince. He entered Godwyn's dreams in an attempt to sooth his suffering and assuage the spread of the deathblight, knowing that he was likely not going to return. Then his empty empyrean body was remanded to the Haligtree to serve as its lifesource.This is why Mohg's offerings have had no effect on the cocoon. Miquella simply isn't there, it's an empty shell. It's also why Malenia's behaviour seems so weird. She's not waiting for the cocoon to magically sprout legs and wander back to her; she knows the cocoon is just an empty shell. She's waiting for Miquella's consciousness, trapped in the eternal deathless sleep of Godwyn, to return to the Haligtree. During her cutscene, she's not looking at the empty space where the cocoon belonged, she's looking at the Trina-shaped tree growth that grew around it, waiting for a sign that Miquella's spirit has returned.The promo image features an Erdtree in an unfamiliar locale that is emphatically not Leyndell, being engulfed by deathblight root growths. This is a symbolic image. The world depicted is a dreamworld, the 'erdtree' there is Godwyn, shackled by the death curse symbolized by the deathroot growing around it.The DLC world will be a mashup of several 'eras' of time simultaneously using dream logic to string together the incongruous time continuity, just like BBs. The reason it's taking so damn long and being billed as an 'expansion' rather than From's usual DLC is because this dream world will be a full-sized series of open world areas, probably about 1/3 the size of the vanilla game world. And undoubtedly there will be changes to the vanilla game map as well--if the DLC is a dreamworld then we'll probably get an item for entering dreams and have several smaller dream bits throughout the game to enter, sort of like the Mist Heart from DaS2.
>>422669015i never saw the iconic crab
>>422668909>Elder Dragon shooting eye laser beamsFucking dope
>90% of invaders use dual cold/bleed naginatas or lancesYou rike?
>>422638820>>422638258>>422638226>>422638090>>422637339>>422636981>>422636238>>422635752>>422635243Are you playing on PC, anon? Between co-invading and my own experiences in co-op, these dudes are souped up to a very uncommon degree. In fact most invaders are varre's quest shitters who insist on honor dueling ganks or fighting their own teammates.
>>422669084I legit almost broke my controller>go after crab>get hit by dungeater>go after dungeater>get hit by crab>auto lock on locks on to the little crabs or the fucking swamp dragon flies>>422669221>poison moth flight blood infusion antspur rapier
>>422669221no they arent, every time i coop the invader is a literal tard
>>422666680>it's clearly a penisWHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>422669261I'm only two of those, and they were on PC, yes
>>422668946This is emphatically untrue. Yes, you can backstab her, but she only ever leaves herself open to backstabs after certain animations, and tracks well enough that you can't just sprint around her attacks.
>>422665972>inb4 wing of trashtel>he doesn't know
>>422667098>Sellen most replayed
>>422669261Stormveil is the twink mecca. In specific level ranges you will find the consistently sweatiest invaders there just because it's the most consistently active area between The First Step and the literal end of the game and is also infested with ganksquads abusing level 700 password summons or 'duelists' abusing matchmaking to twink beyond anything invaders are allowed to be. The competition drives invaders to rabid degrees of sweat and minmaxingBut of course red man bad because he doesn't magically sense that my intentions are totally innocent (+3 extra upgrades and 20 levels :^)) and sandbag to make me feel good about myself.
>>422669453>you can backstab her, but she only ever leaves herself open to backstabs after certain animationsYeah like half of them, you just run to the side for the other half. You can kill her with just holding the B/O button. I never understood how people had trouble with her, she's arguably the easiest DLC boss we ever had. Really fun fight and OST but very easy on repeat.
>>422669751what lvl for stormveil coop, sounds more exciting than max level which is FUCKING DEAD
redders dindu nuffin, dey good boysdey just needed some runes for raya lucaria n shiet
>>422654051I mostly feel humbled when facing hard bosses. What makes me rage is walking off ledges like a retard.>>422669015>>422669323this fucking crab killed me once while I was talking to boggart
>>422669751>>422669261 t. rl10-40 invader. I can say with absolute earnestness that level 60 lake ganks are worse than anything stormveil has to offer, and my level 10 build is just a bow and arrow, versus the absolute hardswapping poisemonster that my level 60 guy is.
>>422670136Reds exist to balance your carried ass
>>422669015>use a bewitching branch on the crab as he surfaces>watch on as he solo's Dung Eater by breaking his spine with a pincer attack
>>422669656whats wrong with the wing? did they nerf it? i actually dont know yes
>>422668968... that's Gorbachev
>>422670568The original poster implied it's trash, the response you were replying to implies it's not.
>>422670209>Rya goes into hibernation!>You have no choice but to cuddle her until your body heat revives her.
>>422670568Wing is so fucking good for literally everything because of the FPless r2 beams. They're fast enough to reaction rollcatch from longer range than any proper melee attack, which applies enormous pressure in pvp on top of just being great damage-wise.
>>422670983ye its pretty good
>>422670983you'll never kill me with it
>>422669221Anon we have a guy showing 10 different tongue invasions and we know that is not the case.
Do people seriously level up their vig higher than 9?Why? Why wouldn't you just pump Int and one-shot everything? You guys are weird. I have 9 vig right now and I simply never get hit. Have you tried using the roll button?
>But what if...>I were to deliberately seed misconceptions about a weapon's strength for no reason
>>422671587this but unironically
I regret buying Elden Ring. Its fun but not $60 worth of fun. Too bad I have 51 hours in the game so I can't get a refund.
>>422671220*sheathes moonveil*You are already dead
>>422654051Had some choice words for Manus in ds1 after too many combos in a row. Malenia was hard, but she never made me angry. Honestly, Commander O'Niel and the Gargoyle Duo are the two that really pissed me off with how stupid their fights were. Late game Elden Ring just gets really silly with enemy health and damage that I can only really get mad if I think the enemies aren't fun or satisfying to fight.Same reason I don't like fighting Burial Watchdogs, Gargoyles or Royal Revenants. Malenia is hard, but she's satisfying to fight. They are not.
>>422671587>Why wouldn't you just pump Int and one-shot everything?I tried that on my level 200 against radagon, it doesn't work. he will one shot you while you are in a charging animation (99 int and mind)to be fair, I was just trying to spam meteor, but I tried not spamming meteor and it still sucked.
What's the practical difference between light and medium equip load?
Is there still a decent amount of organic invasions or is it all radahn beach/liurnia lake ganks?
>>422671862Light goes almost double the distance.Its really strong in PvP and against bosses with "fuck you" moves like Malenia.
>>422671980i like this gif
>>422671862You will never be caught light rolling
>>422672036>>422672081I will need to pump up my END, then. Thanks lads.
>>422671862Light roll has a big boost to roll distance and makes quickstep/BHS more effective.No other differences.
>>422671806Meant to be Niall reskin fight instead, the swamp one is fine.
>>422671692Same but I have 1200 hours
is a tank build possible in thishow does poise works in ER again?
>>422672145Just use the equip load flask
>>422672507greatshield + scholars shield = totally immune to death
>>422671617>no reasonPeople love to downplay their mains so they dont get nerfed mate.i've been watching way too much of that ai skinner steamed hams shit
>>422671709i rollyour move
>>422672676cool, ill try a tank build then. i want to be a slowfuck that eats everything
>>422672920no patchno newsdeddo game
>>422671692same, but i have 900 hoursthere's no point in interacting with other playersreds are niggers, gankers are niggers, hosts are retards and phantoms rush ahead of everyone like a trained dog and clear the dungeon for you while hoping for treat, a "good boy!" and a headpat at the endplaying offline with mods, your always active mimic and CE is much more fun
>>422672981>phantoms rush ahead of everyone like a trained dog and clear the dungeon for you while hoping for treat, a "good boy!" and a headpat at the endI hate this. When I went for coop in souls games I expected some jolly cooperation where the phantom and I both went together facing challenges. Instead of that, I got a bunch of idiots rushing ahead killing everything. When I put my sign down, I always stayed with the host and went wherever they went. It's their game, they decide how they want to play them. I am there to help and protect them, not clear the level for them and force them to go a certain way.
>spawn into Raya Lucaria, right before the boss fog>"Defeat Rennala, host of fingers">u wot m8>Rennala is already in Rennala's boss room>bide my time until Rennala gets Rennala to phase 2>can't even see what Rennala's doing to Rennala, but she's taking damageWhat a ridiculous invasion, what are the odds?
>>422673202>what are the oddsthis was actually pretty common for me when i was invading the area some months ago. was fun to team up with the boss
What are some group passwords that will get me a quick rune bonus?I don't care about joining some gayass community I just need a group pass that's active so I can get the rune boost when I bleed greyoll's ass. Anyone got a good list?
>>422673885you get extra runes for putting a password?!
>>422672920There won't be a patch from now until the expac launch. They've done this exact thing with every previous game.
>>422635243I understand why reds do this, but it's still pathetic, how badly do you want to invade, clearly the feature is broken and not thought out well.>>422638226Then you have this, the intended way to invade, 1v1 and dude leaves because the norm is cheesing 3v1, what a fucking joke pvp is in this game.
>>422673994Whenever someone using a matching group password kills a Greatrune boss or beats the game, you get a passive 20% buff to rune acquisition for like 3 minutes.
>>422673885erg, fcb, FEXTRA, SEEKERS, straydmn
>>422662768You can coop with summons in randomizer?
>>422674182Worked like a charm, cheers
I am supposed to be playing Sekiro, but I am playing with a STR build in ER again
what is a fun halberdto use for PVE?
>>422675315Guardian swordspear, nightrider glaive with phantom slash
Playing DS3, still dont get why people think the shrine maiden is better than Melina
>>422674007Shit, I think I can believe this. If this doesn't come out this month, then this has to be the case. We should be hoping it DOESN'T drop soon.
>>422675802Try emoting at her and find out
Making you walk through lava is so fucking obnoxious
>>422675802Fire Maiden doesn't pretend to be anything more than a level up maiden stuck to one area. Melina is a "traveling companion" but barely appears, can only be summoned for one boss, and 90% of her dialogue is bland lore expodumps quoting someone else.She also reacts to emotes, which isn't much but a little can go a long way and its much more than Melina gets.
>>422675802played every souls game and it baffles me how melina has any fans and ritualposters.easily the most non-character female companion in souls games
Trying to relearn how to parry, I'm sensing how important it is on a build that doesn't have on-demand hyperarmor or a nuke in its back pocket.
>>422676085Good thing going to NG+ in ER removes that, it let's you run through mud/lava.
>>422661287theorycrafting is fun, fills you imaginationthen you remember what invading really is like and you lose will to do it
>>422675315Seconding guardian swordspear, it's got a fun moveset and you can get it pretty much right at the start.
>>422675802Melina was overhyped as having a big roleShe did not, relatively speaking of course.
But all the whiffing is worth it when it goes right. This was an absolutely abysmal invasion in terms of where it was and what I was fighting against.>>422661287Elden Ring probably has the best build variety across all Souls games, but a build is never finished until you've invaded with it. Some of my builds have gone through 2 or 3 revisions after invading with them and fixing their flaws. Just invade.
>>422675434>>422675461>>422676329just tested them out.Thank, anons.
>>422661140Exactly though. They're here to fuck with you. You're the pussy for being too afraid to fight then and whining about it instead
>>422676728>being too afraid to fight thenWe tried, repeatedly, and they just kept lightrolling away and refusing to fight.
>>422676929Sounds pretty based lol.
>"everything is..." mod>everything is Soldier of Godrick>except it's not just one for each enemy>it's enough Soldiers of Godrick to replace whatever HP the enemy had>go into Dragonbarrow Cave>instead of one runebear in that tiny-ass first room there's 45 Soldiers of Godrick>112 Soldiers of Godrick to replace Fire Giant
>decided to do a pure incantation build>boring as hellWeapons are really the bread and butter of this game.
>>422667098>the only non fucked up female face is dead body from Diallos questlinewtf from
>>422677296Sellen is the hottest
>>422677231> never played Dark SoulsYes anon. Melee is the core.
>>422677374>crooked eyes>squished nose
Whats a good weapon setup to learn pvp in the coliseum? Halberds? CS? ps Spears?
There were so many opportunities for cool multiplayer related (or even just normal) covenants in this game...We didn't even get the obvious ones like Volcano Manor or Fia's/Godwyn champions.
What should I call this guy
>>422677231Skill issue. Incantations are fun as fuck in this game, especially since a good half of them are just cooler melee attacks.
>>422677530Good cope, all of them look weird, Lanya is the best and most normal looking they could create and her whole role is to be dead.
>>422677680Everyday I wish Diallos and his retarded questline was never in this game.
>>422677582Speaking of Fia's champion, am I wrong to assume game takes player characters that finished her questline/got her ending(?) as some of the champions you will end up fighting? I swear I saw some differences between NG and NG+ when fightinig them, or when being summoned to fight them.
>>422677783It's people who've hugged her recently.
STR chads run this general.
>>422677664Issue this nut
>>422677374I still don't understand what people see in Sellen. She's plain and homely.
>>422678086I like her face but I find her hotter with the mask on
>>422669076>The DLC world will be a mashup of several 'eras' of time simultaneously using dream logic to string together the incongruous time continuity, just like BBs.>the DLC will be bloodbornemy body is ready
>>422676024Pretty cute but still, she is less of a character than Melina>>422676129How? Even the girl from DS2 was basically just Enia, and girl that info dumps sometimes
>>422678735>she is less of a character than MelinaDebatable.
When can they assume they started working on the DLC? 1.07 in October was the earliest mention we have of a major DLC being done, with the new boss and legacy dungeon listings. Usually they start the DLC just before the game releases, but I can assume Elden Ring was different.We still don't have a trailer, and the DLC is "in development."
>>422679282Before release is accurate. They just only got to the point where adding stuff to the game was necessary around 1.07. Thing to remember is the game was clearly rushed out the door to hit the 2021 fiscal year end in March 2022 for Fromsoft.
>>422678735every girl prior was present at your "safehouse" so by default they felt like more of a person. you could always comeback to them and talk to them, which already puts all of them above melina. all of them had also all kinds of gimmicks that slightly elevated them too. melina feels like she just fucks off for the most of player's character's journey. she would be on par with others if she actually just showed up at every grace, thats it. she would be the best companion if you could actually talk to her there about relevant info ( about the location you're in, the last unique boss that you killed, your weapon at the present time etc. etc.). a HUGE wasted opportunity to make her the best souls girl.
>>422679420Then you have to wonder when this is coming out. Even for a massive DLC with new open areas I can't see it taking more than a year, since everything involved with making the base game is done with. Yet current leak estimates have it after AC in September, which I just can't buy.
>>422679604This. I'm -STILL- fuckiing mega mad they gave her dialogue but only at the only graces I -never- -ever- -ever- would want or need to actually rest at. EVERY church I just grabbed the sacred tear, activated the grace and fucked off. >>422679754>Yet current leak estimates have it after AC in September, which I just can't buy.Don't. Fucking. Listen. To. Leaks. WE can just use basic logic and know ACVI is this year and Fromsoft doesn't want to compete with itself. So it's either before ACVI or after. So Summer this year or next winter after ACVI. Just basic educated guesses here mind you but I bet I'm right.
>>422679860>and Fromsoft doesn't want to compete with itselfBB and DS2 were like weeks apart
>>422679937>BB and DS2 were like weeks apartSony don't give a fuck.
>>422679937A year and a week apart.
>>422677680>>422677727>break game>save Lanya>she turns out to be the smart one>takes care of Diallos>they both wind up in Jarburg>together, they save the Jars>Diallos becomes Lord of Jarburg>marries Lanya>They start a new, non-retarded branch of the House of Hoslow
>>422678086She's BAREFOOT, anon.
>>422679937>DS2 release date March 11, 2014>BB release date March 24, 2015Oh ancient one, please tell us more about the flow of time
>>422679754>Even for a massive DLC with new open areas I can't see it taking more than a yearMy hopium is they're trying to revamp the base game a la SotFS but better, while adding new contents at the same time and that's why it took so long.
>>422680303If this was true it wouldn't be part of the DLC though, it'd be free improvements. They didn't make us pay for Arenas this time, when Arenas were a DLC thing in past games.
>>422680303That hopium better involve fucking over X1 and PS4 faggots by making the DLC nextGen and PC only. That's what you should really hope for. SotE overhauls the main game too but cucks those worthless poorfag assholes and their machines from 2014
>>422680551Least insane PCfag
>>422677498Wrong one, that's the doll body.
tfw I can't write a message letting people know to try using taunters tongue with Melina summoned because of try tongue but hole in previous iterations
>>422677091Can the game even handle that many actors in one place?
>>422680951people already do that. It's super annoying. >melina's moveset is ideal ganker shit >host will kick you out with the fogwall if you ever start winning
>>422677604Poo In Loux
>>422680951>using taunters tongue with Melina summonedWhat? What are you talking about?
>>422681528you can summon npcs well one npc with taunters active, I imagine you can do it for Millicent aswell in certain spots.im going to the ruins shortcut right now...
>>422675919dlc is at minimum 6 months away there's no way they wont add some misc updates in between. Possible they wont drop their raytracing patch until dlc though, but I imagine they'd be scared to ship it with the dlc since it will most likely be messy, and updating it earlier gives them time to get player feedback
If Melina is Marika's daughter in some form, then her goal is to get a Tarnished to fuck her mom after countless sexless years.
I must be retarded bros, I'm on my second playthrough and I don't remember how to get to the other side of the highway where the bridge next to Stormveil is brokenBasically this entire area south of the Study Hall, how do I get there again?
Why do they waste time on something as irrelevant as ray tracing?Bring back godskin scythe, fix some bugs, add cool character transformations - that would be nice
>>422683082Turn right after going up the hill with the ruins where the two finger heirloom is
>>422679604>every girl prior was present at your "safehouse" so by default they felt like more of a person. you could always comeback to them and talk to them, which already puts all of them above melina.Thats retarded as hell anon
>>422682543>Possible they wont drop their raytracing patch until dlc thoughDoubt it. Right now we are at our longest delay for a patch yet, 3 months (100+ days). That is a LOT of time when patches are meant to be consistent since they address community concerns and help the multiplayer scene thrive. So there needs to be some reason this patch is taking so long, and all the evidence suggests is ray-tracing. I don't know what I can even say if the patch doesn't drop this month though.
>>422683259You can get up there from the lake side? Christ, I really am retardedThanks
>>422683437NTA but how...? You absolutely see the Firekeeper more times than you do Melina.
>>422683489>That is a LOT of time when patches are meant to be consistent since they address community concerns and help the multiplayer scene thriveNo. It's not. Because this is not a dedicated Mulitplayer or live service game. They pushed out the Arenas and PvP Balancing. That's just about all we can expect other than some more tweaks whenever DLC/RTX arrive.
>>422683731you can hate PVP all you want and i think its terrible this game but to deny that fromsoft's post-release isn't heavily focusing on it is retarded.
>>422683847>deny that fromsoft's post-release isn't heavily focusing on it is retarded.Exactly, this. You'd have to be retarded to say Fromsoft is focusing on PVP
>>422683847>you can hate PVPI don't anon. I'm a PvP addict. I just know what the fuck this game is and what's fair to expect. Now that we have arenas and they finally tweaked the PvP balance, there's nothing left to actually expect. Maybe when RTX drops they address twin nagi faggots or something and we can expect 2-3 adjustments after DLC hits to tweak the content found within, but that's IT.
>bats have a grabwhat the fuck?
>>422683437The truth is that any illogical thing an organization is doing is likely because of absolute dipshit leadership that doesn’t listen to their workers. Whether it’s cause of money, saving face, or just being an idiot, 1.09 is taking forever because someone can’t let go of what it’s supposed to be. They could give us a smaller 1.09. But they won’t. Because they’re fucking dumb
>>422683437>a character stays and lives in the same place, has more presence, you can talk and meet with them at any timecompared to,>character fucks off for most of your travels, has less presence, can only talk at certain very specific places, gives you torrent and you learn from her how to level up but straight up vanishes after thatdont reply to me, if you are not willing to put forward a decent argument for your hollow waifu. empty by even souls standards by the way, which is REALLY saying something.
>>422684273According to Lance, this is what happened with the Arenas. It was supposed to be way larger with PVE content but something happened and it was cut, so they just released the PVP portion.
>>422684870Bandai is what happened
>>422684870They probably decide to playtest the stuff and finally release it in 1.09. That could explain the long interval between the updates atm.
im disappoint because I can't summon my girl milly til new game+ but I can summon my boy boggart the grilled
>>422685034I believe it. Fromsoft games under Bandai do well commercially but have the most development issues.
>heaviest armor I can wear>Greatshield Talisman>Physick with damage reduction>Boiled CrabYep, it's boss killin' time
>>422683640Because seeing a character often doesnt make them good by itself You might like that more and grow more attached to them because of it, that I understand, but its doesnt add any real characterization, she's stil just a level up machine>>422684356See above>decent argument for your hollow waifuDude you are the one treating them as waifus, "Oh I barely see Melina but my fire keeper is always home for me, so she is better". Its dumb beyond belief
>>422685268Can’t expect much from a pachinko company
>>422685483Greatshield Talisman doesn't seem that great after the nerfs.Is it actually better than Viridian Amber +2 or Green Turtle?
>>422685670>20% damage reduction isn't goodinb4 pvpniggers crying
>>422685626>Because seeing a character often doesnt make them good by itselfSure but you're not getting it. This used to be the bare minimum, but Melina doesn't even get that right.
>>422685745For some reason I thought he was talking about the Greatshield Talisman instead of Dragoncrest Greatshield.
>>422685891>Greatshield Talisman instead of Dragoncrest GreatshieldNo such thingAnd even the +2 Shield Talisman still gives 17% damage reduction
we want raytracing
>>422683938>Exactly, this. You'd have to be retarded to say Fromsoft is focusing on PVPthen why is every single patch pvp related haha
>>422685757Sure but instead she gets to actually do stuff, has an actual story of her own(though still incomplete) and has a personal drive to save the world. Her not appearing in every site of grace might make her less memorable, but to me she is absolutely more of a character and not just someone that levels you up
>>422685670green turtle is great but its all pointless without light roll. armor is a meme. so is poise.
>>422685626all of them are level up machines but that's at least something, melina is not even that. i personally couldnt give a rat's ass if she showes up in a couple cutscenes in a 100h game. that doesnt make her memorable. her being close to the player in this long journey would have been better. even as level up machine.
>"Ok, got my +22 weapon before fighting any bosses. Now I can start actually playing the game!"
I am starting my first playthrough with an interactive map and a guide for missable side quests. I don't have time exploring every nook and cranny to find useless garbage.
>>422686321light roll was basically the easy mode update. might as well just sit back and cast rocks while tiche wins the game for you.
>dragoncrest talisman>blue feather talisman >pearldrake +2 talisman>spelldrake +2 talisman >greatshield >spearIt’s first time souls game player time
>>422686464I still didnt even find tiche. skill issue.
>>422686439Based but for me it's a +9 somber since they put that shit in Caelid almost like they want you to cheese it
I have a suspicion that the dlc was already meant to be out by now and fromsoft is panicking that it still isnt out and we're getting closer to AC 6 release.
>>422686635yeah i guess not being able to explore IS a skill issue.
>>422686439Basically meAfter 4 hours of playtime I'm finally ready to take on Margit with my +5 moonveil.
>PvPLiterally noone cares. If you aren't playing the game offline you are not having the intended experience.
>>422686756you also need your daily dose
>>422686756they went bankrupt making reddit to the core
>>422686869he said while suggesting I summon because light roll is op...>>422686439meanwhile im like guess ill fight malenia with a +8 metal stick
>>422687097You're both fucking retards arguing over nothing, but it's astounding that you thought "I was too stupid to even FIND those ashes" means you win
>>422687097learn how to read please.
>>422686941Wow a katana
>>422686337actually now that i think about it, the cutscenes where she DOES appear actually make it worse. like her going all sentimental before sacrificing herself at the mountaintop grace and in the cutscene and how she is so glad that it was us that she traveled with as if she was present with us this whole time... just comes off as an insult. yeah we sure were a great duo right girl? you gave me my horse and i leveled up with you a couple times...oh and yeah, how could i forget all those times you showed up to talk about that very existing lore at the churches! that was what, like 5 times? truly amazingyeah man i dont know. at least for me, melina is bottom of the barrel.
>>422686756It definitely seems really fucking weird that we're getting an expansion 18+ months after the game's release. Like, the hype is dead. Elden Ring is yesterday's news. Most franchises would be revealing a sequel at this point, in fact I think there was less of a gap between sofs and DaS3 than there will be between ER and its DLC.The business choices here are hard to understand, and it's difficult to conceive what they could possibly be doing with the DLC that A: requires so much time B: makes it worth waiting so long that they miss the boat like this
>>422687572Scholar to DS3 was less than a year lel
>>422687337>light roll was basically the easy mode update.>he said while suggesting I summon because light roll is op...(easy mode)>learn how to read please.im not arguing with any of you fucking retards I just said turtle is pointless without light roll and you went off on one.>>422687286I missed ONE ash, fuck off.fuck off.
>+0 briar shieldOh yea, it’s godrick slappin’ time. I’m too lazy to grab anything else before I get the bloody finger
>>422687572They're taking their time to perfect the new waifu
>>422687751No, you missed an evergaol. Those are drawn in on the map, you knowinb4 you didn't find the plateau that even normalfag newcomers found
>>422687862I'm starting to think they will make him evil.
>>422687572I dunno, the announcement for the DLC kinda revived the discussion of the game so i'm sure they'll be fine if they can play their cards right. Besides, it seems like we're seeing trends of DLC/expansion that went into relatively long dev time lately, Horizon and Cyberpunk comes to mind.
>>422687751damn you are a legitimate fucking retard LOL
I've been running a Lion's Claw Giantcrusher for a while now, wanna try something elseAny fast STR weapons that are fun? Is the Gargoyle Twinblade good?
>>422688021He’s probably got some tie into the night of the black knives. The only not evil one is radagon. He may not be the wisest, but he’s trying to fix the shattering and by extension, the apocalypse we’re playing in
I wouldn't be shocked if they're just trying to not get trampled by Zelda.
>>422688280>he may not be the wisest, but he is trying to re-establish the yoke of the Greater Will which Ranni (pbuh) started to free us from
>>422688280Radagon is not evil for sure. But he's a piece of shit. For ditching a qt like Rennala.
>>422688115Reminder that horizon came out weeks before Elden Ring.
>>422688465Wow, never heard of this o->Has a chance to drop from Omens wielding this weapon. (4.00% chance)Why is it always this shitWhat would be the harm in making it a guaranteed drop from the first enemy of that type you fight?
>>422688619>What would be the harm in making it a guaranteed drop from the first enemy of that type you fight?it removes diversity and excitement. You no longer need to use or want to get item drop increasing items. You never come back to the game later and find something you've never gotten before. Just fucking stack item discovery. You'll find it in no time.
>its a troll anon episodeno clips for you then
hope we get a curved greatsword or two with a new moveset in the dlc, all the current cgs are pretty meh
>>422688786>it removes diversityDude, there's like 200 fucking weapons that are guaranteed drops/item finds
>>422688457The empyreans, gods, and demigods were probably most effected by the GW. Average Joe just lived their life in ignorance. This whole mess was started because a few egos were hurt
>>422687572At this point I just want to see what it actually turns out to be. Part of me is holding onto some copium that this turns out to be a significantly more ambitious effort than they've done before and includes updates to the base game world, maybe revamping or altering enemy placements and encounters like in Mountaintops that frankly felt like they were lower effort than other aspects of the game. There's a world where the DLC essentially functions as Elden Ring 1 and a half and acts like a broader expansion, but things do turn out to be more standard, like say a new overworld region with 2 or 3 legacy dungeons and a smattering of caves and catacombs, then it will seem like there's some serious mismanagement going on, which would be a shame. From really broke through into the upper levels of game popularity, I'd hate for them to squander their success because they couldn't come up with some new weapons, areas and bosses in a reasonable timeframeIt makes me wonder if development on the DLC truly didn't start until after release, it would go a long way to explaining the delay
>Banished Knight Helm scarf does not go over the cape of the Ronin's chestpieceruined, so much for pushing the twink into Mountaintopsat least I get the Lightning Greatbolt vendor now>>422688812your Lightning Slash Omenkiller Cleaver true combo?
>>422688875>Dude, there's like 200 fucking weapons that are guaranteed drops/item findsYeah. Exactly. There's PLENTY of guaranteed shit. Finding stuff by chance is cool and exciting and I hate you for thinking it's bad. Go fucking wear that beetle and blob hat and eat your silver fowls.
>>422688880>Average Joe just lived their life in ignoranceI'm not sure that's a valid conclusion. The problem here is that the controlling nature of the GW is so vague. That's common in stories where someone goes "muh free will, I'm gonna free us from whoever controls us and give us free will back"It's simply not shown in what exact way the GW infringed upon anyone's free will
>>422688280Miquella needed an undead consort to be his counterpart so he went and created one.
>>422689054You should go to mountain tops for sippie cup upgrades anyways
>>422689085>Finding stuff by chance is cool and excitingWhy? You wouldn't possibly know whether that drop you get from an enemy is guaranteed if you just get it by chance. Maybe that one Omenkiller always drops itBut you just love farming so it's pointless to argue with you. Go back to playing MMOs, faggot
>>422688619>What would be the harm in making it a guaranteed drop from the first enemy of that type you fight?They already got rid of chance drops from Bosses, my first playthrough of DS1 I got the Boars Helm, accidentally got the Gargoyle halberd. Next playthrough I was like wtf wheres my cool shit. We have no diversity of playthroughs in that regard, so why remove that feeling from the whole game? If everyone could just instantly grab every weapon then why not just cheat.
>>422689514>my first playthrough of DS1 I got the Boars HelmThanks for proving my point, that's a guaranteed drop if you kill all boars
>>422689297>Why?NPC response>But you just love farming so it's pointless to argue with youGet fucked brat> You wouldn't possibly know whether that drop you get from an enemy is guaranteed if you just get it by chanceExcept most times you aren't gonna get it first time and mistake it for a guaranteed drop. You're gonna be killing it AGAIN and be like: >oh sick you can get the sword they grafted to the Stormhawk's legsImagine being so soulles that you just want everything right awya with no mystery, effort or surprises. Just fucking boot up cheat engine. >BUT BUT CONSOLESCOPE
>>422688021Not to repeat the >Le Bersek ripoffShit for the hundredth time, but I really think he's essentially going to be a less cruel-Griffith, in that he has aspirations for a utopia for all inhabitants of the Lands Between that he's willing to sacrifice and manipulate people for. Frankly I want to see how they tie the Miquella/St. Trina thing together, because despite them being one and the same, I don't understand why Miquella has an affinity for sleep magic, or how that's supposed to tie into his master plan of achieving the age of Abundance or whatever was in that datamined text
>>422689054what, is it r2 into lightning slash or something?
>>422686294>Sure but instead she gets to actually do stuffWhat stuff? She doesn't do jack shit, not anymore than Fire Keeper and her secret eye side-quest. Goddamn delusional waifufags all over the shop.
>>422689658After his Haligtree failed he could go for the,>hey Tarnished, thanks for killing/solving the Godwyn issue, now i can get everyone into the dream/spirit world since the real one is fucked.I mean it even solves the promise issue he has with Malenia, there is no rot (possibly) in the dream/spirit world for her to be affected by.
>>422689658>r whatever was in that datamined textdo consider the possibility that this will simply remain cut and not canon. cut content can easily be retconned and should be considered retconned by the mere fact it was cut.
>>422687572>Like, the hype is dead>300K+ for the announcement
>moonveil spamming my way through the game>suddenly dawns on me that I'm basically just doing the exact same thing as I did with Bloody Slash on my arc playthrough, except restricted to one weapon instead of being on whatever I likeMan, why is arc just always the best playthrough?
what should i name him
>>422690103Yeah, previous games had cut content found in their games that never came back.
>>422689127True. I just get the feeling that the populous was ignorant to the GW and saw marika with her golden order as the religion and figure head.
>>422675802she has a cooler look and bigger boobs
>>422690270Radagon’s College Roomate
>>422688619grow a fucking pair and CE it if you don't want to farm itpathetic insecure fucks
>>422690270>strawberry hairMelin, the genderbent Melina
>>422689691Lightning Slash truecombo into R2>>422689275I don't want to kill any more of those Ulcerated Tree fuckers12 flasks (divided by 2) is more than enough for a level 20 twink
>>422687572The DLC teaser on twitter got more likes and views than Breath of the Wild's sequel announcementThe hype is strong
She'll be back in the DLC.
>>422689634>entire post is "no ur wrong" and something about consoles that I didn't even sayAs I thought, an MMO shitter
>>422675802I know it's dumb but the gag manga actually went a long way to making me like Melina as a character, so I actually rate her now, and there's always a chance that the DLC salvages the backstory she's obviously meant to have and makes her into a more noteworthy characterBut yeah, I never felt very strongly about the Firekeeper in DS3, truthfully. She has a great design, good voice acting and a cute twirl when you gesture at her, but that's about it. Even Anastasia, the mute firekeeper from DS1 had more going on once you revived her and gave her voice back to her, the DS3 Firekeeper is essentially just a fancy bit of decoration that talks to you
>>422687572>the hype is dead>game reached "my coworkers are talking about the DLC announcement"-tier
>>422689085>Yeah. Exactly. There's PLENTY of guaranteed shit. Finding stuff by chance is cool and excitingretarded fucking slop chuggerchug a battle of bleach next time, holy fuck
>>422681672Like in previous games, right? You can summon one NPC normally and you have to use the tongue to summon the 2nd and final NPC, right?
>>422691264Maybe not in the way you wanthttps://youtu.be/U3NoDEu7kpg
Is it still good for midgame invasions?
>>422690962You can get all the seeds you need without killing them. Keneth drops one and there’s enough trees in the world. I don’t like killing Kenneth so I get my last seed from the ulcer in stormveil. It’s the least aggressive and a twink can kill it with ease. There’s also the sacred tears if a single crimson flask doesn’t heal you up all the way
>>422691431unfortunately no, and it turns out you can summon more than one, because I was summoning boggart and hammerbro.
>>422691504only with dual lance niggardry
I've never done NG+ in any game but just out of interest, how does it work here? Everything in Farum and Haligtree already twoshots you even at 50VIG in NG, do you just get oneshot by every single enemy in NG+5?
>>422691694>Everything in Farum and Haligtree already twoshots you even at 50VIG in NGWhat? I don't remember this. Are you wearing slut armor or are you wearing actual armor?
>>422690384Characters mention the Greater Will by name.The Greater Will is Elden Ring's YahwehThe Fingers are its priests and missionariesMarika was the Land's Between's Jesus.Marika was worshipped as being one with the Erdtree, a terrifying goddess of war and a loving, generous goddess that spread life and blessings. The religion of the Lands Between always tacitly understood that she was subordinate to the Greater Will, but they saw that relationship and Marika's position as proof the Greater Will favours their kingdom and cares about their lives enough to handpick an avatar to bless them. In truth it's not clear if the Greater Will is even capable of something like 'feelings' or if it's just some cosmic space whale of infinite power that imposes order instinctively and is just acting to its simple nature, and Marika is ultimately not a willing party to its influence but a puppet actively resisting its master.
>>422691694>how does it work here?it's utterly retarded, that's how it works here
>>422691798As heavy as I can get away with at 40 END+great jar arsenal
>>422691270Stop. You're a retarded manboy. >>422691334SEETHEEETHE
>>422691504It's fucking dead. The range nerf is so bad that people can be physically touching you and casually backwalk out of range before it goes off, and the 40% damage nerf means it's almost never killing anything and anybody poisy enough to facetank it is genuinely going to outtrade you.
>>422691694you barely notice it early on until you notice it alot. if its like the old games.ng+7 everything will oneshot you unless and perhaps in spite of maximum vig and I mean absolutely capped out + talismans. probably not "random hollows" in this game but bosses certainly.
>>422691956I love it when people prove by themselves that they're not worth arguing with and lost the argumentIt's like the I AM SILLY strawman but you deliberately did it to yourself
>>422691694its terrible don't do itits only worth it 1 time to get all the shit you missed the first time like alternate rewards
>>422692097>get btfo after talking about chugging bleach or how everything should be 100% drop rate>WELL ACTUALLY GOOD SIR, I OBJECT TO YOUR TONE AND BEHAVIOR, YOU HAVE CONCEDED THE DEBATE AND LOST YOUR MORAL HIGHGROUND, RAPSCALLION THAT YOU ARE
>>422692190Oh god no I wasn't thinking of doing it, I was just idly wonderingThough I DID happen to do NG+ on a backed-up save after my first playthrough (wanted to fight Malenia again)
>>422691957>almost all other weapons keep getting better>a fucking Vykes got its WA improved>this one was mercilessly slammed down TWICE as hard despite not even being among the strongest arc options
>>422691956>>422692271where do you livetell me so i can beat the fuck out of your keyboard warrior ass
>>422692412Vyke's got a 30% stealth nerf to its WA. It was done dirty just like Mohg's, only slightly less so.
New player hereBleed weapons seem overpowered compared to other stuff. Does that change in mid to lategame?
>>422692586Nope, it is babby's first build for that exact reason
>>422692485>Wait a minute, I'm Tarnished! Ahaha *sip*Impotent rage is funny but I'm done with you.
hey, who's up for a /erg/ meetup?this guy is VIP, >>422692692 i'll pay for his plane tickets and hotel room as long as he shows up
>>422692586Bleed genuinely gets better as the game progresses since hp pools really start to bloat and it's %-based damage. The only downside to bleed is that you need to stay aggressive because buildup decays if you aren't constantly hitting your target to apply it, and some enemies are just completely immune to it.
>>422692412>melting people from 30 feet away>not OP as shit>>422692586bleed has been cucked pretty hardreduvia is literally the best bleed/ARC weapon for bleed so use it
>It's a fucking LoL playerhttps://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/419449689/#419516923kek
Is it worth getting blood flame blade if I'm just doing a dex build?
>>422669751>But of course red man bad because he doesn't magically sense that my intentions are totally innocent (+3 extra upgrades and 20 levels :^)) and sandbag to make me feel good about myself.I never said anything like that though.>>422653074Yeah but why did he teabag me?>>422651458+0 standard weapon cause I kept forgetting to put glintstone pebble on it.
is erdsteel dagger as busted as claypoon but faith?I was going to do black knife and blade of calling but they don't actually pair with one stat and I think this one will be level 90
>>422693110>is a quickstep dagger busted?No it's shit
Past games had unique item corpse models relevant to each other while Elden Ring has Limgrave commoners in fucking Farum Azula
>>422691307>She has a great design, good voice acting and a cute twirl when you gesture at her, but that's about it. Even Anastasia, the mute firekeeper from DS1 had more going on once you revived her and gave her voice back to her, the DS3 Firekeeper is essentially just a fancy bit of decoration that talks to youMan, not to sound too autistic but i disagree on both fronts>AnastaciaShe is interesting as a character but ultimately its that, she is interesting as a self-hating undead being held captive to serve.>DaS3'sI would argue not only that she is the best level up girl, but that she is a culmination of every other girl that came before her. First, her design is clearly inspired by MiB, which still has the best desing, but das3's is a close silver. Second, she has the same "captive" theming from Anastacia, but its much more interesting than just forced brutality. Its a mix of duty and having nothing else in life, and during our quest we see what happens to her kind (discarded in a pile after use). Third, she has a quest of her own like EH, but while the Herald's is a bit too confusing thanks to the troubled development, even with das3 having the same fate its pretty clear, she serves the shrine "blindly" and is destined to be thrown away afterwards, but we, along with her own will thanks to her new eyes (being now able to "see"), decide to change fate and do what we think its right, the "betrayal", and part of that is thanks to fourth, like the Doll, we create a connection of affection, even if more implied than anything, but while the Doll is compelled to, she has nothing forcing her to do so and ultimately she has very little impact or a quest of her own, at best we solve her anguish by killing Maria, while the fire keeper gets to by her own hands free herself from her shackles and living in the dark with her champion. She is fantastic aesthetically, personality wise, character wise and quest wise, being the most realized of all the level up girls.
>>422693487I don't care to fact check you so I'm just gonna call you full of shit for even caring about such a completely pointless detail
>no option for an NPC invader to be replaced by a human player
>>422693615Id RP the hell out of that
I don't see why anyone would even play PVP, any invasion I've seen when I was helping hosts was just running away 90% of the time and then trying to do quick running attacks behind you
>>422693576Melinasisters.... Its over.... Spoken echoes do NOT linger here...
>>422693409it can be ashed though and has faith scaling which is why im asking
shanalotte is the bestbearseekseeklest those feet
>>422695118She doesn't give a shit about you and wants you to burn in the kiln. Will probably be absolutely assmad if you decide to ditch the flame and fuck off.
>since there's no patches and no discounts, the population of the game stagnates>because of the dog shit invasion system it means invasion targets get narrower and narrower until nothing but gankers remain>literally everyone predicted this shit to happen a year ago already>some plebbit drones actually tried to defend this bullshit and some delusional fucktards actually compared it with DS3 invasions despite the fact DS3 feels far more alive than ER
>>422695659I went back to invading in fucking Bloodborne lol. Before that was DaS3. The state of the game's PVP is inexcusable for their biggest title.
>>422695659Don't know why anyone bothers with pvp in ER other than colloseum and even that is riddled with metafaggotry, but at least odds are evened out
>>422695659>because of the dog shit invasion systemStopped reading, imagine caring about pvp lmao
>I went back to invading in Bloodborne
Splash more OC for you fellas. Not many good Elden Ring meme template type images to choose from so I had to settle for Malenia.
>>422696098>Elden Ring pvp.gif
>>422695948Invasions are the only form of pvp i accept because i absolutely love using environment and blend with pve. Duelniggery brings the worst out of the series' combat system because at its core it's nothing but whiff punishes as far as 1vs1 go, so it ALWAYS devolves to passive staring contests in one form or the other unless you're playing against absolute retards.
>>422695948>complains about metafaggotry in ER when you can forget about entering the pvp scene in DS3 if you aren't willing to abuse the """"""""""""""""""""""tech""""""""""""""""""""""""kys
>>422696217I always treated arenas as practice for invasions, which are the real PVP.
>>422696339They don't really give you the same skills unless you're glitched into fighting 3 people in group fights all by yourself.
>>422695432this is the complete opposite of what actually happens, and dark is the canon end in 2.
>>422693487>corpsesThey're still alive. In Dark Souls they're comatose hollows who have lost all hope to even move, same thing in Elden Ring, they're commoners who have lived so long (no rune of death) that they gave up and fell comatose.
>>422696217Yes, using environment is great, but odds being massively stacked against invaders and gank squands means there's only place for the most broken and abusive of builds. That said, invaders would always gravitate into that anyway.>>422696236after you
>>422696489There are lots of occasions where you kill the friends and are left with a solo host, or you seperate from the main group but a phantom or a blue find you, etc.
>>422696646>That said, invaders would always gravitate into that anyway.Invaders weren't anywhere nearly as sweaty in previous games compared to ER, and nobody can blame themBack in 2 i don't think i EVER saw a metanigger invader.
>Patches gives you his letter so you can do his manor quest for himThis goddamned snake... How did he even join the manor? You have to kill another tarnished to be accepted into this cult.
>>422696876anon he was running an ambush operation for god knows how long out of Murkwater.
>>422696601I meant these. Yahargul in Bloodborne had a unique corpse of a Choir member that is where you got the key to Upper Cathedral Ward from. Here we have a commoner model from Limgrave just dead in Farum Azula for some reason.
>>422696859Yes, you can argue that fun/rp builds would be more common before, simply because the odds were better, but existence of sweats is probably want made miyazaki go full retard with invasions in ER, since he guessed that if you gonna sweat then you should be at disadvantage, but that hit all invaders.
In two days I have farmed>perfumers robe>two noble straight swords>two noble estocs>two cleanrot swords>two bandit curved swords>tentacle headask me anything
>>422697281Miyazaki has 0 involvement with PVP stuff and leaves that up to a specialized team.
>>422697427well whoever did that went full retard, literally doesn't matter
>>422697357Why haven’t you bought a lottery ticket yet
>3trannies leave for ER>ER is shit up by 3trannies>only some comfy players remain behind>3trannies feel nostalgic about their own cancer and go back for a moment>they find pleasant company>they migrate their cancer back to their containment gamecan't happen soon enough>>422697357are you a neet? i hope so
>>422696876I wonder if he killed Vyke....he is clearly already a member when we meet him since he knows Rya well enough to tell the only truth he told in 5 games, that she is nice and you should help her.unrelated, should I make an assassin next, or a dung? it has to be his whole armor to boost those tools that spray spirits, im not sure if I should do his sword aswell because that would be strength biased quality and int faith for the spirits, which puts me solidly into the highcap not level 90. maybe thats how ill do it but it would be more fun at lower levels I would have thought. what do?
>>422697678>I wonder if he killed Vyke....i wonder if you know any of the names these characters are associated with.
>>422697678Dung Eater build is worthless at low levels other than as a pose monster who trades with Milos. You simply won't have the stats to do it justice. You want something like 30/30 INT/FAI to make the bairns worth the cast time/FP Cost etc. Luckily, Shriek of Milos is amazing for the debuff and the GS is not bad at all because at least it bleeds. Equip Roar Talisman to increase the damage boost Shriek of Milos [Snowflake Poopoo Man Warcry] moveset change. So I guess just take your pick. PROPER Dung Man at SL 150-200 because INT/FAI is a motherfucker or Sword only Dung but at low level.
>>422697357did you know cooping increases your drop rates ALOT like ds2?I got two octo hats in one dungeon in one coop session on a new character. i gave the guy one since I already at that point collected 3 total.I do have a sort of luck passive though irl that even follows over to dice. I once rolled 6 6s three times in a row and I didn't believe it myself but it happened.
>>422697839having thought about it for more than 5 seconds Iirc maliketh killed him so, not vyke. no need to act like a polymath every time my first guess is wrong geez.
>>422697113I know you mean these, and I was saying that they aren't corpses, they're just comatose.
>>422698085thank you, I would have forgotten roar. I used it on my strength guy but dungs ash didn't register as the same category for me at this time.I might try it on my main maybe (already 200), but im not sure how many larval tears I have left.
>>422698397they're absolutely corpses in all cases dude. sometimes a duck is just a duck.
>>422669076>Miquella's consciousness is currently residing within the Death Prince. He entered Godwyn's dreams in an attempt to sooth his suffering and assuage the spread of the deathblight, knowing that he was likely not going to returnTheory already debunked by Malenia's armor description, which says he made a promise to her before he disappeared and that he has to return to fulfill it.