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Zero Ass edition

>For the discussion of:
Pathfinder: Kingmaker
Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous
Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader

>Pathfinder WOTR is available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1184370/Pathfinder_Wrath_of_the_Righteous/
https://www.gog.com/game/pathfinder_wrath_of_the_righteous

>Access to Rogue Trader's alpha is available
https://roguetrader.owlcat.games/?locale=en

>Pathfinder: how to use custom portraits
https://www.pcinvasion.com/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous-custom-portrait/

>Pathfinder: info about spell, classes, races...
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/
https://aonprd.com/

>Portrait tool
https://www.notra.fr/

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Still cute tho
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What other mods should I get?
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Is she covered in fur?
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>>416055005
pretty sure that having that little ass is a violation of some sort of a law of the universe in and of itself
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Wenduag if not a mongrel.

>>416055074
Toybox already allows you to get achievements in a modded game. Allow modded achievements is thus redundant.

If you want a more laid back experience where you don't have to minmax so much, you could get the feats at every level mod.
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>Alchemists can't event craft alchemist fire
What is this crap?
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>>416055162
Maybe Monad prefers boobs. Or... well, feet, judging by that image.
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>Irabeth decides to give a whole-ass speech to her 5 soldiers
>On a drawbridge
>While being pelted with fire arrows

The stupidity of this scene never gets old.
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>>416055464
wtf I'm lawful neutral now
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*smoooooooooooooooooooooooooch*
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>>416055317
>feats at every level mod.
That seems too strong. My next playthrough will be on unfair.
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>7 minutes too late
next time, woljif...
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Any good mods for these games?
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>>416055612
It’s fun though and gives you room to pick feats for flavor or make subpar builds work (like a two weapon sword and board paladin). Really wish there was just an option to apply it to the main character though.
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>>416056113
Maybe if I try the toybox ultra unfair difficulty. Anyone tried that?
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>>416056221
That sounds ultra unfun...
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Stab you or zap you?
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>>416057450
why not both?
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>>416057553
because woljif is terrible at zapping
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>>416057647
WHY DON'T YOU JUST DIE ALREADY
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How do I fully reset the other party members?
Is there some file I can edit or does toybox allow it?

Sosiels brother has fucking shit classes and you can't even change them
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>>416057861
sosiel is optimized as fuck
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>>416057861
https://github.com/BarleyFlour/RespecMod
I don't think toybox allows full respec, this does though
leave trever's build alone, its RP!
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>>416057861
That would be cheating, at which point you may as well be playing on story mode. Also Trever is poorly optimized but his classes are all full AB so you can use him if you really want to.
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>>416058029
but his brother isn't.
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Cringe simp.
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How did you handle the Abyssal Bear situation?
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>>416059531
He's literally gay retard. He's just saying what any good person would say upon seeing a demon being able to redeem himself.
I'm sorry if this breaks your bubble where you convinced yourself you are good when you are actually just spiteful.
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>>416059665
She made the animals suffer so I killed her
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>>416059665
Ember in my party said it best. You cant just go around binding demons to your friends because you are scared.
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>>416055116
>the wenduag fan artists are multiplying
NO
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>wenduag
that pathetic little wretch who pretends to be hot shit while playing queen of the malformed freaks?

why would anyone simp for her
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>>416059732
yes we are spiteful bastards your point nigger?
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>>416059531
If Sosiel didn't accept Arueshalae trying to repent then Shelyn would (rightfully) revoke his powers.
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>>416059531
Realistically if you ever left Aru without at least 2 awake people watching after her you'd be a retard.
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>>416059665
same as you - animal cruelty deserves punishment. Also she made Daeran mad, and people who make my bae mad get the noose
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>>416060508
But I eat animals all the time. Not because I have to, but because they are tasty.
Trying to tame the abyss is her crime, I dont give a fuck about animals.
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>>416060218
sexo
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>>416060642
good for you. I'm not talking about you though. I'm talking about me
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so if I plan on going legend, does it matter at all which path I chose before? other than the angel/lich spell thing
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>>416060218
Furfags have no standards.
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>>416060835
Trickster buffs to items stay after you switch to legend.
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>>416060835
you keep trickster perception feats if you take them and not respec
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God, going Lich grenadier was fucking stupid.
1d6 extra negative damage on bombs is useless. I should have gone Azata for the free bomb refill or go mutt warior lich I guess.
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What to change?
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>>416061023
>>416061083
oh interesting, I was debating between trickster or demon so I guess that settles that
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>>416061141
change portrait
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>>416061141
>aemond
>chaotic neutral
he's as evil as they get. if you want a chaotic neutral, then pick daemon. although the jury's still out on that whole blood and cheese business
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>try ridiculous sorc/cleric theurge gestalt angel build for fun
>kind of a terrible idea, way too many spells to scroll through
>combined spells stop at level 5 so can't even spam bolt of justice through sorc spellbook
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>>416061284
It's because of picking Gozreh, the God of Temper Tantrums
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Is she worth it?
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>>416061376
depends on your tolerance threshold towards shitty animu tropes
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>>416061376
depends how much of a captain save a hoe are you
if even alittle then yes the romance is cute shes cute etc
if the thought of picking up a girl from the gutter disgusts you (and this is a gutter of a designated shitting street) then no, no it is not
in other words if you have a soul go for it if your a jaded dick like me dont
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>>416054880
Anons, without spoilers, is it true that the Devil Path is significantly weaker and less cared for storywise compared to Angel or Lich? I have heard the opinion that it's basically a failed Azata.

I wanted to play a conniving Evil character (and not just pure RAAAGE like Demon) that gets with mommy Areelu, but it seems that you'd better wait until Owlcat buffs Devil's endgame powers?

Is this all true?
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>Legend option available at Grey Garrison
>gives extra feats while levelling

There, improved the game.
Fuck Iomedae, Fuck Demons, Fuck pseudo-fairies, Fuck no-dick skeleton wizards
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>>416061814
yes, it's all true. if you want to be conniving go trickster
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>>416061814
Angel is the Mythic that the original AP is based around, so it has the most to work with by default.
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>>416061814
It is the worst path, fuck all to it and it will probably never improve. It honestly feels like a lazy afterthought.
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Fellow Angel chads, which Sword of Heaven upgrades did you take?
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>>416062087
>>416062102
>>416062219
Damn, disappointed. I guess demon it is. Fuck man.

Thanks anons.
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>>416061823
>legend that early
Wouldn't work with the story.
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>>416062778
better than being shoehorned into being a fucking angel, demon or space lawtist
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What happened to the Camelia romance mod? Looks like it was removed from the Nexus
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>>416062956
It's on github.
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>>416062778
>reject handouts
>proceed to make mommy seethe for 4 acts
>just turn all story in her trying to make you accept the powa
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>>416062898
that's literally the premise of the game though
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>>416061823

>Legend option replaces Mythic Hero
>Allows for linear progression within the mythic path, and then rather than going from Mythic Path to Legend, you go from Legend to Mythic Path

This WOULD actually fix 70% of the game in terms of roleplay. Having to go from a mythic path to Legend makes NO fucking sense, and it can absolutely kill certain types of characters in terms of RP.

Why would my Gorum-worshipping warrior-zealot get blessed by Sarenrae or whoever, or turn into an angel, or anything like that?
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>>416062778
yes it would
you choose not to submit to any of the powers and instead draw upon your own strength
this starts the path to Legend
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>>416063026
You only defeated Minagho because of mythic juice. Without it you would've been mincemeat. Literally an unwinnable fight.
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>>416062265
usually everlasting flame, bestow the divine, heavenly host, and speed of light
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>>416063062
this archetype works better if you choose atheism (the chad choice) and you start getting blessings from niggas who shouldnt be, which would raise eyebrows
wouldnt matter if your soul goes to that limbo realm or whatever because you already prove that you can go toe to toe with gods as a fucking dude with with a sword
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>>416063161
You're a lvl 5 schmuck at that point. You don't have any strength of your own to draw upon.
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>>416055317
Is she actually "muscly" lorewise?
So far Ive only seen Amiri to have some actual abs amongst Pathfinder women.
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>>416063508
>he doesn't know about the indomitable human spirit
ngmi
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wend is a disgusting spider beast, she's not muscly, she is sinewy
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>>416064141
I think some romance scenes describe her muscles
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>>416064141
no, but she's very chitiny
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>>416063180
There is plenty of ways to make it work.
I do not mind legend as it is, it is just so weak in the "i became a hero because I was asked to" part.
Where as legend would be clearly someone that either defies the handouts from the start, or at least fights against them until getting rid of them.
Not "Hey, maybe you should give up this power" one day.
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>>416063508
but your speshul. im sure they could find a way to shoehorn it in. maybe it makes you "weaker" than choosing the other options, but considering how strong Legend is end game, it makes sense. think of it as a "trial"
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>>416063508
Btw you can be level 8-9 in garrison, kineticist and saint at least could down Minagho at this level. Not the adds, though.
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>>416064380
they could have you trade your mythic powers for better loot or something
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surely theres a mod out there that makes the legend path not suck and usable from earlier on in the game. or someone is working on it... right?
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>>416065051
The only issue with legend right now (besides story) is the fact that legend and trickster are the only paths that need to be 100% planned out ahead. You cannot just decide as you go.
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>>416065448
everything has to be planned out ahead
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>>416065635
Not really. I did both Aeons and Angel on the fly and it was fine, and fun.
Not working for trickster.
And definitely not working for Legend.
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>>416065914
works perfectly fine for legend martials, same as trickster
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Lel why does Arue get a letter stating she cannot resist the "D"
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>>416065635
lolwat
i just fumbled my way through as a paladin and the game was fucking tailor made for me if i went angel. literally could not mess up
demon is the same if you're a martial class too
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HOW TO FIX MYTHIC PATHS:

>Don't give the player access to two of the paths in the game's fucking prologue

>Don't give the player access to Aeon, Trickster or Azata before Grey Garrison, but keep the triggers that unlock them;
- Finding the purple knife, but move it into the tower-museum because finding the corpse of a dead aeon in the middle of the street is ridiculous - Have it as a relic in the basement and elude to its extraplanar origins
- Tricking the dudes in the library to let the Storyteller go
- Listening to the song after reuniting the 3 clerics

>Give the OPTION of siding with the angels in the wardstone and restoring it and lending their power (Angel Path, gives you the Light of the Angels ability you usually get in the prologue), siding with the corrupted angels and destroying the Wardstone, absorbing their power on the way out (Demon path, gives you an equivilent to Light of the Angels) or using the purple knife to nullify the wardstone and steal some of the raw magical power from within, which is absolutely missable if you don't find the purple knife (Unaligned/Legend/Mythic Hero path, gives you either a new ability or a free feat)

>Add continuations to the 3 "unmarked quests" for Trickster, Aeon and Azata in chapter 2 (Aeon linked to either Nenio's companion quest, or the puzzle chamber quests, Azata linked to Desna's Shrine in the Lost Chapel, and Trickster linked to Daeran's companion quest with options to fuck with the party 'creatively')

>Remove or ENTIRELY rework Devil
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I want the Archmage path, owlkeks. The literally anon's path.
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>Human
>Male
>Pure Fighter
>Greatsword
time to game
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>>416067103

The fact that there weren't paths for 'pure magical mastery' outside of Lich or ANYTHING remotely related to nature like Dryad or anything related to the Fey (Azata doesn't count fuck you) is a fucking crime.
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>>416066792
but the purple knife was created from deskari's blood, why would it be in the tower?
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>>416067641
>'pure magical mastery' outside of Lich
this melee trash path has NOTHING for 'pure magical mastery'. his necromancy spells are trash too.
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>>416068047

Because the Templars there found it, took it, and intended to ship it off with the rest of the artifacts in there, but the asshole Tiefling running the operation decided they liked it and kept it to try and gain some of Deskari's power because he's ACTUALLY kind of a pussy bitch right now. I dunno, just make it up.
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Is student of war's capstone ability bugged or something? I can never get crits on those elementals. Also, is there a way to bypass fortification?
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>>416068153

I won't lie this is my first time looking at Lich mythic and holy shit this is awful.
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>>416067641
>or anything related to the Fey
trickster
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>>416068153
tainted sneak attack is dope, vulnerability to everything is obscene
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>>416064747
>legend path is being able to cheese the game
Ok I guess, still kind of weird.
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>>416068762

Fair point.
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Why the fuck didn't they add more mythic portraits?
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>>416068872
save DC is broken, it's useless
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>>416069117
Small indie company, please understand
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>>416069160
Is there anything in this game that isn't broken?
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>>416069160
isn't it half int bonus instead of full int? With like 10 attacks + debuffs it still isn't that bad
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>>416066792
>Aeon linked to either Nenio's companion quest
I have played the game for over 500 hours now and I've literally never used Nenio. I will NEVER complete her quests. I will always tell her to fuck off.
I will never cast Weird. Fuck furtrannies and scat frogshitters.
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If you had to pick one...
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>>416069353
Weak should fear Strong and Fluffy
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If I play Paladin do I need a horse?
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>>416069492
you either take the horse or the weapon bond

if I recall correctly weapon bond is completely useless since you can use buffs to turn literally any weapon into an endgame super weapon
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>>416069283
DC is zero. it doesn't work at all.
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>>416068153
Wow, decaying touch sounds really good for a natural attacker.
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>>416069684
wtf bravo owlcat
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>>416069492
Dont need it but pets are gods because you can stack flank and opportunity attack feats which cause them to go berserk. Also you can reach the enemy way faster and have retarded AC without taking any penalties for armor.
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>>416069117
I'd rather them give portraits to characters like targona, socobenthot and zacharius desu
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I've literally never used teamwork feats either.
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>>416068153
It's funny when you use deadly magic with one of the spells that gives you temp hp, and since it's affecting you you can't cast spells for the next few rounds.
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>>416069935
why?
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Withering Life is extremely funny with magic missile but the hungry hippo floor spell has a similar but slower effect
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>>416069897
Why not both? I refuse to believe it costs that much to hire some people to do a few portraits for the game
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>>416069682

Weapon Bond is bad because it requires the paladin themself to use a standard action to apply the weapon bond, it's inefficient action economy in-combat meaning it only becomes worthwhile if you're applying it pre-combat which isn't always possible.
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>>416069382
>well written interesting character
vs
>oc donut steel kawaii ugu weeb trash
how's that even a choice?
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>>416070173
doesn't it last for 1 minute per level?
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>>416070134
It's not that it costs that much, is that it costs for no real gain, in a game where you can just put custom portraits that will always fit your character more with what you want.
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>>416070084
The only useful one is outflank and it still makes you lose a feat. The other good one relies on abusing attacks of opportunity and feels cheap as fuck.
I just prefer raw numbers. And I also prefer the idea of having my knight commander being able to solo shit and being babysitted by his companions.
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Azata falls so hard off at act 4 it's not funny, I can only imagine how fun other paths are
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Why is canny defense capped to SS levels but not scaled fists' CHA AC bonus? That would kill all this dip faggotry
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>>416070847
You were warned to play angel, yet you decided to not listen
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>>416070672
That's such a shit excuse that could be used for anything. Why bother having a story when you could just copy your favorite book? Why bother having characters when you could just use your imagination with custom party members? Why bother having music when you could just open spotify and play your own favorites?
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>>416070847
Does it have any cool interactions with Arue's boyfriend in Act 4?
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>>416071107
Lol no, they blew everything in act 3
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>>416071082
Anon, I'm not excusing them, I'm explaining why they won't do it.
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>Game sold a million copy
>Can't even hire an artist for a couple of portraits for some important characters
Owlcat doesn't care about wotr anymore.
It's time to move to Rogue Trader goys.
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legend btw
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>>416071926
>less INT than Valery
legendary stupid troglodyte
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>>416071926
>Gorum
>not Irori
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So pets really are just a crutch like in kingmaker right? I remember when it came out people kept saying to pick sacred huntsmaster and sylvan sorcerer because of the pet. Are you really gimping yourself that bad if you don't have one?
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>>416071926
>CN
Reddit alignment
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>>416072253
>Reddit alignment
that's chaotic good
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>>416072192
Sosiel or Seelah can be pet owner. Only black people should be allowed to have a pet.
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How many pets do you run in your party?
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>>416072253
What even is a CN anyway? You just act randomly?
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>>416072253
chaotic good is reddit
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>>416072361
zero
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>>416071895
>40k
no thanks
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>>416072387
woljif
amiri
jubilost
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>scrolling down scroll ups the actions bars
owlcat why, its so unintuitive
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>>416072192
Pets are unironically retarded strong. They get A TON of free attack, they get you into combat super quick, they have amazing CC and can be extremely tanky. Absolutely recommend running 5 pet characters if you can get away with it, mostly wolves and dogs but horses can be passable as a tankier option.
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>>416072387
self interest and valuing (personal) freedom
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>>416071895
>Rogue Trader
How will combat work in that game anyway? Is it just Pathfinder but with a 40k paint?
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>>416071926
>heavy armor focus
lol
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>>416072089
>muh skills
id go to 0 if i could use the stats elsewhere nigger
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>>416072760
alpha is available. you can go play it for free.
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>>416072995
No.
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Demon's spellbook must be at least 7 full circles. More unique spells to shit on lich path.
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>>416072973
its tabletop tweaks. plate fighter is acshually gud, sweety
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>>416073152
Modding is cheating, sunshine
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>>416071926
based. however
>14 dex
go 13 or 12
>20 str
go 19
>14 con
16 is better
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How do I stop getting finger of death's or horrid wilted to death in act 4? Literally nothing in Azata kit helps against that shit.
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>>416073152
>literal cheat mod
lol
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Eldritch Knight is just too feat taxing bros. Especially for a non-Human race. You need Arcane Armor Training and Arcane Armor Mastery to even reliably use spells in heavy armor and then Combat Casting to be able to do close damage (like with vampiric touch).

Any tips anons? Going Lich route for an Arthas playthrough.
>inb4...Magus?
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Wait Loremasters can get the fucking Trickster special feats while the main character is on another path?
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>>416073503
so don't wear armor, eldritch knight only buffs himself anyway
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>>416073509
Bug exploits = cheating. May as well play on story mode.
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>>416073286
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>>416067641
Trickster?
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>>416073610
But anon the point with EK is to be able to throw all kinds of spells in heavy armor while wielding a 2H Greatsword. Otherwise you can just play a Magus or some divine class.
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>>416074148
no, magus is the class who is supposed to cast offensive spells in combat
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How are you supposed to cat a spell when you're wielding shit with both hands already?
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Is there any reason at all to wear armor?
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>>416074493
if you're a fighter you may want to wear it before you take the monk dip
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>>416074467
You aren't
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>he knows
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>>416073285
Bumbin this. Death ward does shit
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>>416075080
luv cucum !!!!!!
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>>416075291
Turn on story mode.
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>>416074493
you're using ttt which makes plate tanking a viable option
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>>416074493
Yes. To look cool
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>>416075385
Durr. I just don't see what the counterplay is, especially when a lot of the demons have high initiative and you can only target them after a cut scene starts
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>>416074493
No your pet is your AC
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>>416075662
There is no counter play, the game is shit and broken unless you play the 1 or 2 correct build.
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>>416075451
Can anyone explain ttt to me? How much is it change in the game? Is the hard mode on top of the official core/hard?
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>>416075080
do you think he'd fuck her on the corpse?
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>>416075739
can you get hit while riding your pet?
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>>416075895
no daeran is a pussy and closet moralfaggot
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>>416075895
no, because he's not a chaosfag.
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>>416075857
all i know is it makes it possible to play pure fighter without having to use gay magic drugs
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Is there a guide on how to redeem daeran without needing to kill the inquisitors?
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>>416073503
More feats mod
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>>416075895
>"a0d09d58-aae3-4d65-a6b7-5008863ef597": "\"You were observing me earlier whilst I was practicing with my rapier, Daeran. Did you find it a captivating sight?\"",
>"5cc2311d-e132-40cb-b3a6-5096f48006e0": "\"Oh, indeed. As captivating as a dancing cobra, a rushing avalanche, or a raging thunderstorm. And just as with those natural phenomena, it is important to do two things: enjoy the view and keep one's distance.\"",
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>>416076702
>needing a guide
just be nice to him, jesus christ, his quest isn't fucking hard at all
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>>416076916
only a godlike being such as the kc can handle the cammers, such a powerful and majestic creature
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>>416076702
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/comments/qa0jo3/daeran_romance_best_ending_guide_spoilers/
he has a hidden trust value, basically just do what >>416076934 suggested
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>Arueshalae: I'll stand watch while all of you rest. >Regill: You think we're going to let you stand watch alone? We've still got some sense left in us.
regill literally never sleeps if you recruit that harlot, huh? Don't worry reggie-boy, we'll get rid of her in chapter 4 and you'll have a good night's sleep again
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I'm planning on running the angel mythic path since i havent done it yet. is the ending for that path better then the super secret ending that requires like 50 steps to get?
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>>416073503
4 levels in Hellknight Signifier offsets arcane spell failure if you have no problem going lawtism
and combat casting is unnecessary so long as you buff up
you should be able to get
>Improved Critical
>Weapon Focus + Specialization
>Spell Penetration + Greater Spell Penetration
>Cleave + Cleaving Finish
>Improved Initiative
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>>416077373
Yes. you become bffs with inheribro
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>tfw I realized leyline/winter witch can learn from scrolls
What the fuck? My build has been extremely shitty because I went full retarded with the limited spellbook I got
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>>416077786
Isn't leyline a spontaneous caster?
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>mfw i start a new playthrough but then remember the domino puzzles
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>>416079838
the ui on those is fucking awful
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>>416079838
Just don't do them?
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>>416077786
Every Int caster who memorizes spells can learn spells from scrolls.
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>>416080268
no
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Angels should be able to fall and become devils.
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>Everytime I play as melee I think about casting
>Everytime I play as a caster I wish I was in melee
Build for this feel?
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>>416083336
Angel oracle
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>>416083336
Angel Oracle or Azata Magus
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>>416083852
>Azata Magus
Does that work though? Aren't superpowers kinda shit for martial?
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>>416084075
Zippy Magic boy
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>>416083336
Eldritch Knight as Lich/Legend
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What's the best way to CC a mage before he buttfucks you?
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>>416084859
save scum
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>>416084892
Would quicken spell + favourite metamagic work? I don't see why not, it would take couple of feats though
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>>416085151
sure if you win innitiative. good luck with that lmao, since all mages in this game have +2000 to ini just 'cause
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>>416085335
Since the game is in real time won't you get a quickened spell off before your opponent casts a full round one?
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>reduce person Greybor
>legendary proportions Arueshalae
>put the baby in the mommy
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>>416071107
>>416071423
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>>416085458
no
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>>416086042
>let me remind you about things i took from you
is this bitch completely tone deaf or what?
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>>416083336
>Everytime I play as melee I think about casting
>Everytime I play as a caster I think how good it feels to not be melee
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I am kind of overwhelmed with all the act 3 quests, especially with how inconvenient traveling between them is with the exhaustion mechanic even if you end up finding their location.
Do later acts get even more crowded?
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>seelah rolls 3 nat 20s in a row
>wasted on a stupid random undead in the DLC that's going to come back to life in a second
she better bring that energy to when we fight baph and the dragon in a few hours
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>>416086891
Dont worry bro theres a retarded camera mechanic in act 4 that makes the game even more shit
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Any anons here played with immersive mode on?
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I like Regill as a character but I rarely take him with me because I dont really feel he is that useful in combat.

Any suggestions how to build him? Lvl 12, m3 angel path.
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Wtf am I supposed to be taking point blank shot as a mage?
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>>416091148
there's a -4 penalty for shooting into combat without it. if you do ray blasting, pay the feat tax
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>>416091460
But it only says "ranged weapons" in the description
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>>416091617
rays are weapons as far as the game is concerned, you can even get weapon focus for them
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>>416090339
Personally I went with (after getting enough out of the Fighter and Hellknight levels for what I needed out of them) one level dip into Oracle to get the curse that makes you immune to Fatigue then went the rest Bloodrager for infinite Rages, then Reduce Person'd him for more Dex, more to-hit, and more damage.
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>>416091749
Seriously? This game is so obtuse. What else should I know that the game refuses to tell me about?
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>>416090339
>hellknight levels for armor training, domains, morale ac aura increases
>fighter levels for feats
>vivi meme dip
>spawn slayer for study target and defensive study
>Freebooter for the hulk hogan points if you don't have one of those
Plenty of avenues to take
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She wanted to be strong so I turned her into the strongest class in the game.
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Is it possible to beat unfair without your MC or party members taking dips or using the auto-lvl thing?
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>>416092207
not only do you have to pass an accuracy check when using spells, you also need to pass a spell resistance check :)
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>>416076351
>rules are made to be broken!!
>sarcastic prankster
>oh but uhh he doesn't care about commoners or something
hmmm nah you're right he's definitely neutral evil and no other alignment could fit his character
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>>416086815
it was a bug from the beta. the red character is the commander
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>>416093701
didn't we have this argument like yesterday, give it a rest
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Why didn't they fix the game when going from KM to WotR?
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>>416092207
oh boy, wait till you hear about shroedinger's kinetic blade
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>>416094957
The what now
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i suck at working out this ability score system
im playing a fighter and not sure what stats i really need
what i do know
>i need to leave my main stat (str) at an odd level to get the full benefit of ability score level ups
>theres some important dex related feats (like the flanking one where you get bonus damage) that need either 13-14 dex, but i figure if i go to 14 i'll get the benefit of higher initiative and bonus as i get armor training
>int/cha are worthless, the former because skills are based off of who in the party has the highest and the latter is only good if im going for intimidation - which i dont know if i should be
>12 wis might be good since fighters have shit will saves
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>>416095329
Looks good, personally I'd go for 16 dex 14 con for higher initiative and AC. Health is not really that important in this game, you shouldn't be getting hit.
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>>416095918
yeah that makes sense. im not planning on being the tank and will probably be using some kind of reach weapon. or ill get the lunge feat and using a greatsword or something
thanks anon
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Have they fixed the armor problem yet?
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>>416096173
TTT fixed it a while ago m8
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>>416096173
What armor problem?
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>>416096292
>tanks in a gimp suit
its an absolute fucking travesty what they did to heavy armor and i will never forgive them
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>>416096443
I'm sorry STRcuck, but this is DEXchads' game
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>>416095918
There aren't any feats in the game for Fighter worth taking at 16 dex, and armor training won't give the +dex bonus to use all that dex in i think, ever? unless you wear med armor or something
id go 16 con in case the tank dies and you have to take a hit or 2
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>>416096230
But how much bloat does it also add? I wish they'd just fix the fucking game jesus christ it's been almost a decade now
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>>416096824
doesn't add any bloat afaik
its all stuff that theoretically SHOULD be in the game but for some stupid fucking reason, isn't
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>>416097148
Ok anon, I'll check it out
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You look at it and tell me that targona wasn't supposed to be a romance. you motherfuckers
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>>416099809
You'll get railed by the gay viking and you'll freakin' love it
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>>416099809
>friendship
anon, please learn to read
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>>416099809
incest is bad, m'kay
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>>416093402
Well?
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>>416093402
Define dip.
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>>416101430
Everyone has to stay with their starting class/archetype till the end. No 1 monk dip or whatever, no giga nigga companion or Regill.
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Does the Hunter share bonus ability actually exist? I'm trying to fuck around with the class in Inevitable Excess and I can't find how to give my PC the +6 inherent bonus to dex.
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>>416102239
Talking about this by the way, also can't seem to select 2 focuses from the level 10 ability.
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>>416102852
>not eating the smilodon
ngmi
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>>416102852
>having a pet as a mass of writhing ticks
>using a ranged weapon for a mythic with a melee reach of 30 meters
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>>416103230
The Mythic doesn't actually matter I'm just trying out level 20 against the one Protean right outside camp then loading into something else. The fact that Hunter seems to be missing two major abilities that scale Hunter Focus is more annoying to me.
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So apparently Targona isn't wearing panties under her dress and if you clip the camera under her dress you can see her naked? Did Owlcat really add to the game? I thought only Japanese developers pulled those easter eggs.
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>>416069382
I like Arue, but no one compares to Grace - her promise to find TNO in the lower hells however much time passes is the best love confession ever written in a video game.
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>>416072760
Eh, levelling up is just some abilities/+1 perks that you sometimes choose on a linear upgrade tree, and then use in combat to maybe increase hit rate or place a speed buff on the ground. It's shit.
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>>416079974
They fixed it somewhat, you can now turn the tiles around without taking them out.
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>>416062956
Nothing was removed, what are you talking about? https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/170
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Is the wenduag romance worth doing?
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>>416108447
If you're evil Arue and Cam is superior in every way, if you're good then it just makes no sense.
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>>416108590
I plan on playing lawful good (angel) and heard you could redeem her which is why I asked.
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>>416108684
she will never be "redeemed" she just will be loyal only to you and won't betray you anymore.
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>>416108859
That's a shame. I heard certain romanceable companions could have their alignments changed depending on your dialogue choices. Sucks she stays an asshole then.
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My god the camp banters are fully voiced? then why do they never go off in my playthroughs?
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>>416108684
Can you even do it if you don't pick her at the beginning?
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>>416108934
Her alignment does change to neutral and she really does love you but that's it
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>>416108934
Wendu changes, just from NE to TN. Arue goes from CN to CG if you support her, romance unneeded. Other than that I don't think there are other alignment changes. Just tone changes if you did someone's good or evil ending
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>>416109015
nope
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>>416109226
I could of sworn Daeran goes to neutral good if you do his good romance ending
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>>416109361
I wish
But no, just in one he becomes (even more of) a callous dick, the other one he chills out
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>>416109361
What happens if you're on a good path and kill yourself. Daeran changes his ways and becomes charitable and chaste so he can meet you in heaven.
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>>416108998
Only some of them are voiced.
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The game has very bad companions for a good character huh. Everyone is an asshole or just mental
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So from what I can gather out of the interesting romanceable options Wenduag can be made true neutral which I guess is better then evil if you literally dominate her. Aurushalae goes good which is unsurprising. Daeran can become less of an asshole but still stays neutral evil.
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>>416109818
>seelah
>sosiel
>ember
>lann
>arue
>maybe woljif if you aren't a lawtist
you can make it work. though besides Cam and Wendu none of the evil companions are psycho enough to be auto dropped
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>>416109750
They're all voiced half just never goes off for some reason,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-rHqw2Jn_0&t=1122s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tptJa3KT97s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXqzKhW49o0&list=PLpE_3Z-CImGuwaIbCasSXD6RQetZcY21r&index=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqDmkyXQB-8&list=PLpE_3Z-CImGuwaIbCasSXD6RQetZcY21r&index=29
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>>416110070
i forgot nenio, whoops. greybor is neutral, too, but an assassin with a good character is stretch
>>416110045
basically. wendu's whole shtick is she's looking for a strong master in both a literal power sense and the sexual sense
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>>416110045
there's also Sosiel romanced as a demon
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>>416110265
Ah. I was debating between wenduag, daeran, or arushalae for romance options and couldnt decide lol.
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how important is DEX for a fighter if im pumping STR?
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>>416110191
>half just never goes off for some reason
The fuck?
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>>416111610
Welcome to Owlcat
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With Arue's stat spread, what would have been the best class choice for her?
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>>416114520
Sorcerer into Eldritch Knight.
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>>416114645
Eldritch scion into EK would probably be better.
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I'm assuming the ideas and explanation and general lore of the First World and Fey is not something Owlcat came up with, but is it specific to Pathfinder? Does it come from D&D or is this a point where the two diverge?
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>True Sight, Communal
>Still Miss due to Concealment
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>>416086891
I gave Seelah fatigue/exhaustion cure with her lay on hands
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>>416100317
but you arent her brother hes not even dead
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Why is Trevor's head so big
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>>416069382
>fall from grace vs fall on face
id like arueshalae more if the bitch had that moment where she actually starts to fall herself like she does a step too far and you get to choose whether she dies or help her with repenting like id she breaks into your room or some shit trying to go full bdsm but stops or something
the idea where you just go "yeah bitch this dream shit is an enigma im not caring anymore" being what actually pushes her off the edge sucks
fall from grace is arue after she fixes herself but an alignment that doesnt suck
so just make arue the inbetween where fall is and what a succubus typically is you fucking vatniks and faggots
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>>416099809
planned DLC for the third season pass
it will release in 2024 please be patient
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>>416085849
this
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>>416114520
Skald. I'm genuinely fucking baffled that her default class wasn't Skald.
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>>416115297
>Magus into EK
To what purpose?
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Holy shit companions are useless. All my slaves I bought DIED
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>>416115297
This is a very fun class combo for her. Decent damage and feels suitably demonic (even if she's ascended).
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>>416122807
Flavor. Also, you get a caster who does about the same damage and can tank as well as your melee line after buffs.
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>>416122986
Why is the Commander so fucking hot, bros?
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>>416123630
honestly prefer this one
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First play through of this game and I feel so trolled every step of the way. The game teaches me to prebuff, but if I prebuff for the dragon, she just burns down everything and escapes. It makes sense, but it's inconsistent with it's logic. Also, the 30 and 40 skill check rolls to avoid damage are kind of extreme for an Act 3 party.
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>>416125356
Noobs should get fucked.
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>>416125356
Should have prebuffed for those stat checks.
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I'm permanently aged and staggered from Isles DLC
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>>416120942
>only have to wait for 2024 for the POTENTIAL fix for devil
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>>416125647
Like how? The stat checks happen on approach to the dragon's lair. There's no way to prebuff as you go straight from the map screen to story screen. You're not prebuffing out of this one.
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>>416125678
Seems like you didn't prep right then. One of the great things about WotR is the long term, even permanent consequences of stupidity.
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>>416099809
>targona vs arueshaela catfights incoming
we got just a glimpse of this cant wait for it to go full cat fight mode
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What romances make the most sense on angel mythic path?
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How can tabletop tweaks be save compatible? If I add some unique TTT feats then uninstall the mod and remove the feature will it show a blank feat or what?
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Holy shit the difficulty spikes in act 2. Just lost selah, wojack, and camellia at nightingale grove. Truly nothings more fun then constantly rolling sub 5 while the enemies roll above 15 almost every single attack.
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>>416126615
>arue as captain save a hoe honestly the only real option
>the q*een if you are willing to stomach that disappointment and have a long distance relationship for 90% of the game lmao fuck her
>your hand
>targona if they dlc her
and thats it
wendufags will dispute this but no lawful good person (let alone lawful or good) would trust that freak
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>>416127063
>wendu
I really wish they had more dialogue options when choosing between Lann and her at the start.
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>>416127232
whats there to talk about
>i tried to lure you to a demon to get raped but I had second thoughts and now wish to follow/fuck you
vs
>I had noble intentions im a fool but a fool thats on your side
why would you NOT pick lann
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>>416127414
I don't think the majority of people even roleplay in these games. Whenever I look at community discussion or watch Pathfinder videos, they're minmaxing the fuck and only making decisions off of optimization, not over "what their character would actually do."
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>>416128176
then self insert nigger idc just do anything beyond "number this does number that to monster that"
this is a ROLE playing game you are playing a role either as an actor or as yourself if you were in x situation
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>>416086042
What happened next?
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>>416125678
>he's actually playing the DLC that's bugged to utter shit and breaks the game

Oh no... OH NO NO NO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc&ab_channel=JRiver
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>>416096443
All armor should have some sort of damage reduction.
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Why is Regill so mean to Arue?
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>>416129460
because he's right
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>>416125678
Just go see Hilor and respec.
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>>416129460
because he's right
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>>416128789
You won't play it because you can't oneshot Nahyndrian Darkness on unfair LMFAO
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>>416129460
Not only is she a demon, she's a chaotic good demon. That's like doubly bad.
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>>416130440
can an azafag please explain the difference between elysium and the abyss aside from the lighting and less monstrous inhabitants
whats the difference between one disgusting orgy and another when your all writhing on the floor fucking
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>>416130696
Elysium has more trans people
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>>416131179
id think the abyss would have had more
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>>416131360
Demons are chuds
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>>416131430
no thats devils
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>>416131179
does in this setting suicide=evil afterlife or not?
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Are HK levels on Regill worth it? It seems kinda weak desu when you could just take more smites through the mythic path
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>>416132804
hellknight is for rp only
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>>416125678
I really don't get that Isles condition its like a time attack but its way too fucking short.
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>>416132804
>Are HK levels on Regill worth it?
Worth it for touch of law alone.
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>the reddit thread on companions and sex
lmfao pure reddit gold
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>>416133543
stay there
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I'm getting a persistent crash at the beginning of Act 5 after you finish speaking with Iomedae. Any clues?
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>>416124874
I wish devil path had content. Hell, I wish Azata path had content
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>>416129567
Thanks, king
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Am I retarded or is Legend mythic path the best?
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I'm level 14 in act 4, should I get the DLC?
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How viable is trickster mobility 3? What's the minmaxed mobility score vs highest enemy AB
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>>416135237
And you know, if my level is high enough for it
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>>416135237
Yeah
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>>416117180
>True sight communal
>Not x-ray sight communal
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>>416135225
It's second weakest after snoygeltroon.
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>>416130696
>>416131360
Elysium trannies are sanctimonious faggots who will try to spread their mental illness to unsuspecting mortals.
Abyss trannies realize their existence is a mockery of the laws of the universe and revel in that aspect.
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Why are lawcucks like this
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>>416135237
be aware it is bugged to hell and you may end up with a debuff that stays with you like f>>416125678 and plenty of people in steam reviews
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>>416136825
You can fix that with toybox, I had dozens of stacking permanent debuffs during launch and I fixed all of them with toybox. There was this frost armor that stacked the status effect each time you put it on which was highly annoying.
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>>416130696
the difference is quite obvious if you're not a contrarian
Elysium is for good and neutral aligned entities who are free spirited and good natured. The Abyss is for evil aligned entities who are selfish and delight in forcing their will over other people for their amusement. An evil entity will have no qualms murdering, torturing, or raping others for their amusement, while a good or neutral aligneded character would in contrast b disgusted or put off by these actionss
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>>416135237
Even with the bug I like the Roguelike DLC a break from reading text all the time if you want to dungeon dive. They should fix the bug though.
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Am I supposed to be able to kill rat swarms by stabbing them on Core?
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>>416139541
Equip torches or use fire to kill them
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>>416139541
Yes but not the later fiendish tick swarms
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>>416139617
Oh, okay, I thought something broke, as usual. This seems like... a more gentle way to introduce newfags to swarms than in PFKM, at least.

>>416139604
I know, I'm just used to swarms taking 0 damage from regular weapons.
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>>416124874
femDevil looks fat and her face is stupid, while femDemon>>416122986 looks like a supermodel. Demon wins.
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>>416140046
Femdemon looks like a poojeeta.
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>>416140426
And this is a good thing
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>>416139781
I think only swarms with a size of tiny are immune to weapon damage, and you don't encounter those until act 3, and by that time you should have the bane of spirit ring so they become an non issue
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>>416140046
I prefer a wholesome lawful devil over pornstar chaotic one
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>>416135780
Wouldn't an extra 20 levels be better?
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>>416140649
One will nag you to death with rules and regulations for monthly sex in a missionary position, while the other will let you have all the fun in the world.
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>>416135871
Even trannies among demons are superior.
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>>416140749
Extra 20 levels don't mean anything in and of themselves. What matters is synergy. Mythic powers provide more synergy for almost any build than your 20 extra levels.
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>>416141075
20 wizard 20 alchemist
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>>416140827
The devil:

The bad
>Missionary only
>Nags at you
>Horrific house rules
The ?
>You have to do a prenup
The good
>Won't cuck you with an Kalavakus

The demon:

The good
>Incredible fun sex
>Lax rules
>A lot of fun
The ?
>Lax rules
The bad
>Will cuck you with an Kalavakus
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>>416141184
WOW! A +8 INT BOOST FROM COGNATOGEN!

THIS IS DEFINITELY WORTH GIVING UP MYTHIC POWERS FOR!
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>>416141075
Lel.
20 ab, 10+ feats, another capstone, 20 more skill ranks, 3 more attacks.
Call me when your pathetic mythic ass can do, unbuffed, 11 attacks on charge at +77 bonus with 900 per hit, almost 3k per crit.
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>>416141325
And +2 from the capstone, +4 from legend. Better than trickster, aeon and angel in raw dc numbers
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>>416141351
The actually funny thing is that this fucking retard thinks this is impressive lol.

Kalavakus can quadruple your number of pounce attacks on a proper build or at the very least double it on a semi-appropriate build.

Trickster can guarantee crits on low threat-range, high crit multiplier weapons that will effortlessly outdamage your pathetic cuckgend shitbuild lmao. Trickster shield basher can also perform LITERALLY an infinite number of attacks lol.

Azata can perform STR-based DC instakills on the charge.

You have no clue who this game works and your opinions are worthless dogshit.

Also, post your 900 damage non-crit, subhuman shit-eater.
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Do I get all my Act 3 soldiers back at some point?
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>>416141696
>Azata can perform STR-based DC instakills on the charge.
Isn't that like 5% chance
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>>416141620
>2 from the capstone, +4 from legend
And you lose the profane gift bonus lmao.

It's trash. Trash better than snoygel is still trash.
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>>416141786
you can get the profane gift in the threshold if you refuse it first, for the REAL endgame :^)
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>>416141741
5% per attack on the pounce. You can get 14+ attacks lmao.
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enlightened philosopher/alchemist legend for the ultimate intmaxx
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>>416141851
What were they thinking giving you MR10 to fight one fucking enemy and then the final boss(es)??
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PLUS legend can get the ultimate expanded arsenal featuring ALL the schools except 1 due to infinite feats
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>>416141707
lol, no, thank queen retard for that.
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This game is too unbalanced! Something must be done about that!
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>>416141851
>I c-can still g-get t-the p-profane g-gift!
>when the game is already over
LOL.

Doesn't matter what cuckgend shitbuild you shit out, it's not going to be better than:
1. +27 DC bonus, cast as move action and inherent spell persistency from Demon.
2. Lichcel's Corrupt Magic at base CL32 (without items or any other bonuses) spells from going Lich compared to CL28 which may not even be achievable now.
3. +4 spell DC, Irresistible AoE dispel that strips everything from every single enemy and never fails as well as autoroll 20s on initiative (regardless of enemy alignment lol), AoE touch of law and cast as move action from going Aeon.
4. +9 will-targeting spell DC and inherent spell persistency by going Azata.
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>>416142412
This nigga is actually proud of getting the Profane Gift lmao.
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>>416142259
>PLUS legend can get the ultimate expanded arsenal featuring ALL the schools except 1 due to infinite feats
That's not how it works lmao. Expanded arsenal cannot benefit from more than 14 spell focus feats and any mythic can get all 14 of those. Except cuckgend has no mythic spell focus feats so he ends up benefiting the absolute least from expanded arsenal compared to any other mythic lmao.
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If I give Nocticula the lexicon I can't ascend and Galfrey also dies right?
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>>416142412
still better DC for most spells than both aeon and azata. Legend is the officially the 3rd strongest caster path get FUCKED froggy
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>>416142553
You only need to combine the two, you don't actually need to have the books in Threshold. Pass the Skill Checks before giving her the book and you should be ok. Use things like visions of madness, touch of good, double fortune from ember and cam, food buffs, etc. You should be able to clear those checks even with no skill ranks
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>>416142807
What about Galfrey then?
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>>416142852
Fuck her, she's an idiot
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>>416142682
>better than Aeon
Lmao not even close. Zone of predetermination and DC gaze give Aeon an effective +13 spell DC. Aeon can cast as move action which can be equated to having an advantage on beating saving throws, which, in turn, is equivalent to +4 spell DC on average over the entire domain of possible rolls. And Aeon also gets to AoE dispel everything, not just 1 effect, which makes him extremely powerful in IE where regular mobs prebuffed with almost a dozen various buffs each.

>Azata
+9 spell DC against Will and inherent spell persistency. Better than cuckgend with the buff I will point out below.

Besides, you're completely ignoring cuckgend's lack of mythic feats that give EVERY mythic 6-8 extra spell DC lmao, depending on whether they have to get mythic spellpen or not.

So no, cuckgend cannot compete with mythic spellcasters, be they DC casters, ray casters or AoE blasters.
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Bitch please, I don't care about your buffed dcs, times per rest stuff and all the shenanigans.
Kinetic blade kineticist 19/ random class for a decent pet/ gendarme 20 on a fox with pounce obliterates inevitable excess, solo, on unfair, with ONE rest (the first one that you need only to fix the burn pool).
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>>416143205
show me aeon and azata having more raw stormbolts DC than legend right now
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>>416143389
>Kinetic blade kineticist 19
Nodamage trash compared to a mythic caster dealing 5.7k damage per cast of Hellfire Ray lmao.
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>>416143512
>raw
No one gives a shit about your mental gymnastics. Only thing that matters is effective DC boost, because it's the effective DC boost that defines whether you can actually beat the save or not. Cope.
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>>416143521
I can attack 8 times per round at 0 burn cost with an empowered maximized kinetic blade with 11-20 x4 crit profile. Your puny ray casting has nothing on that.
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>>416143627
14 expanded arsenals boy
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>>416143660
Sounds like nodamage trash shitbuild. Ray caster can deliver 6 rays each guaranteed to deal 1890 damage.

>>416143759
You have no clue what you're talking about.
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>>416144254
>Ray caster can deliver 6 rays each guaranteed to deal 1890 damage
I can crit for well over 1500, with a 93% crit chance, and you still spent a grandmaster rod charge, I, on the other hand, haven't spent any resource.
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>>416144843
>you still spent a grandmaster rod charge
Except I didn't. I shit out 1.5k rays NAKED unless the crit is negated by fortification, but fortification negates any crit from any source so cuckgend will suffer the same fate. With key equipment pieces I can claim a safe MINIMAL number of 1890. if I put on barely relevant meme shit like Ring of Pyromancy and Call of Fiery Things I might hit minimal 2k.

>haven't spent any resource
That's the mark of a shitbuild. The only round that matters is the first one.
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>>416141916
Pounce? Isn't it only charge
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>>416145132
>Vulnerability
>Cam Cam in party
Heh.
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>>416145373
Pounce IS charge.
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>>416145461
Cammers absolutely dominating the froggy meta while nenio cries in a corner
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>HOW DARE YOU USE PARTY SYNERGY IN A PARTY BASED GAME

I accept your tearful concession.
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>>416142303
Man I had a 13 stack
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>>416145563
Nenio is there to record the results while being CUTE!

Besides, Nenio IS the meta:
1. If the MC is not a DC caster, Nenio is perfectly capable of taking over that role on unfair from the very early game.

2. If the MC is a caster, Nenio can just be the Wiz5/Loremaster5/EK10 pouncer with the clowntranny critfeats lmao
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I didn't even know initiative existed or it was actually important. After respeccing I can combo greater dispell as a swift action with goggles and then use icy prison for easy wins.

Why wasn't this told in-game? Why isn't the action order shown clearly?
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>>416145793
>If the MC is not a DC caster, Nenio is perfectly capable of taking over that role
No shit she's the only actual arcane caster in the party
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>>416145829
>I didn't even know initiative existed or it was actually important.
Should have read these threads lmao

>Why isn't the action order shown clearly?
It is shown clearly in TB, but TB initiative order sometimes pulls off inexplicable shit.

>>416145968
>nofur literally seething
Lmao.
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Wait, are you guys actually using the furshit companion? LOL
Don't you have some self-respect?
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We use the word furCUTIE here, please refrain from using incorrect terminology.
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>>416146478
Don't you mean furtranny? Given that it can transition between two forms.
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>>416146057
How many people read that shit?
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How haven't assassins fixed the worldwound problem ages ago
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>>416148412
They're the weakest class
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>aeon wizard
Ok so do I just become a DC caster? What school?
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Why doesn't paralysis work here?
>Mind affecting
>Fear
>Compulsion
>Emotion
>Poison
>Disease
>Charmed
>Dazed
>Nauseated
>Stunned
>Death
>Sleep
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>Fire vuln curse
That works for blueflame maiximized empowered kinetic blade as well, plus I don't need spellpen
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>>416148762
they can kill any demon in 1 hit lol
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if I never visit Nenios quest location will she remain human forever? Or will she get pissed and go there on her own?
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>>416150404
You can just toggle the forms man.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/piBJFysvrH0
El maricón bara vikingo....
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>>416150630
I'll probably use him if he's a good melee
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>>416149146
Depends on the kind of paralysis. Chains of Light and Icy Prison should work, Hold Monster shouldn't.
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It's OK, kinetard. One day you might actually manage to deal half the damage of a ray caster per round lmao.

Also, mentioning spellpen is the mark of a mongoloid who has no clue how this game works, because spellpen and SR stop mattering as stats at the start of chapter 3 lmao.
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>>416150085
Assassin demon could be actually decent
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>get home from work
>ahhh time for some comfy /ocg/ reading
>it's an amphibian spergout episode again
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>>416150483
but it default to furry shit every time you change locations. Shit's annoying as fuck
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>>416150404
just don't let the cutscene happen, go there kill the mobs get the loot and fuck off until.act 5
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>>416054880
Why the fuck are there beggars in Alushinyrra? Whole guilds and gangs of demonic beggars with quotas to fill set up by demon mobs and mafias, but why? No demon will spare a gold for a needy beggar, and surely they don't believe that enough planar travelers to Alushinyrra will be oblivious and saintly enough to give enough gold to beggars for them to make any profit at all? Unless it's just a complex excuse for a superior demon to punish an inferior demon in the hierarchy for not filling their quota.
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>>416153761
No gang wants to hire him cause he lacks experience
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>>416153761
You give them money in exchange of an handjob or being able to piss in their mouth. You know, just like with any other peggar
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>>416153761
>enough planar travelers to Alushinyrra
But Alushinyrra is like Sigil in dnd, it does have enough visitors from other planes
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This is base guaranteed damage for kinetic blade blue flame maximized empowered blast crit.
Please add gendarme capstone and fire vuln yourself, and multiply by number of legend attacks.
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Are there any classes that are worth sticking with all the way to lvl 20?
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>>416153761
they are spies
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>>416155609
kineticist is literal game journalist mode
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>>416154760
I feel like in a city full of sin and succubi, there'd be more attractive whores not too far away. But I guess for the average demon that's low on the totem pole and too weak to really own anyone, it's maybe the best they can do. Seems unlikely as a big coordinated business model, though.

>>416154876
Sure, they have a lot of visitors, but do you think most of the planar travelers to the Abyss don't know full well it's a hivemind of scum and villainy, and the almost all the locals guaranteed to be chaotic evil fucks held back only by fear of punishment? Most visitors to Alushinyrra have to be smart enough to know that, so you'd figure they would know not to give patronage to any demon begging on the street.

>>416155773
This is probably the best and most probable answer. Thanks.
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>>416155609
>This is base guaranteed damage for kinetic blade blue flame maximized empowered blast crit.
Looks like nodamage trash incapable of hitting 2k. It's OK, retard I'll show you the real peak ray damage once I get some free time lol.
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>>416156601
doesn't it get more attacks than your rays on a pounce?
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>>416156601
Bro, its x3x1.5 with gendarme on charge and fire vuln. I am not going to replay half of 5th act just to show you this.
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Nobody reads initial tard posts
He also conveniently disappears every time someone here posts about Black water and other encounters where mc is not level 15+ while enemies don't wait for you to cast double hexEyes and perform 10 attacks per round into backline into your garbage Mirror Image which doesn't even protect 100% of the attacks while its still on.
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>tfw can never play anything but a lawtist
I just can't bring myself to be a chaosfag ;_;
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>>416157240
>gendarme
So it's a MELEE 20kinetard/20gendarme shitbuild with no damage? Why is this trash even worth mentioning when demon kalavakus and trickster shield basher exist? Why is a melee build being compared to a ray caster lol?

I can output guaranteed 2k+ rays, 6 rays per round. Actual rays, without going into melee. There is no caster build that can output more outside of instakills. Kinetard trash can only dream of such ranged damage.

Like I said before, cuckgend is the weakest mythic path with only snoygel being weaker. There is nothing you can do better than actual mythic paths can.
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Is this a mock fight!?
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What class should ai pair with monk when going legend?
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Wendus death in act 4 is retarded as fuck desu. Not that I ever used her but still
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>>416158394
Everything about Wendu is pretty retarded desu.
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>>416158085
Fighter or demonslayer for damage, one celestial bloodrager level for alignment on punches, anything with teamwork if you want it, or some sneak dice and sneak feats.
But you better be prepared to juggle your alignment for trickster path.
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>>416158545
Yeah but at leaat she's funny so I'll keep picking her over Lann
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>>416157759
That's the beauty of chaotic alignment - you don't need to be chaotic.
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>>416157732
>Black water and other encounters where mc is not level 15+ while enemies don't wait for you to cast double hexEyes
>evil eyes in blackwater
Lmao this is the kind trash that posts on pwrg ahaha.

Also, retarded subhuman, this pic is from before Midnight Isles DLC meaning that the level reachable in chapter 3 was lower back then than it is now.
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>>416158873
mind fog is amazing
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>>416159049
It is, for ensuring spells that last more than 1 round/level and allow for a save each turn stay on the target.
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>You need to go first in the round!
>Also you need your team to apply Eye/FlameHex before casting it
>Here's a lvl20 screenshot which proves my point
>BTW forget about that screenshot where my char delays turns to go after hexers so his initiative is completely irrelevant
>You just need Strongest Rod in the game
>You just need to get +7 ring in act1
>You just need +8 belts from another dlc
>You just need level 20
>You just need mercs
>still posts builds with dips
Every single day every single time.
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>>416159174
>each turn
*each round. I know some retard ITT uses outdated infinite/aurora engine terminology where 1 turn = 10 rounds.
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I'm going to kill Nenio
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>>416159464
Based
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>>416159464
Based
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>>416159464
What does she say when she gets devoured by the swarm?
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its kinda bullshit they never added meteor swarm
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>>416159280
This retard is literally mindbroken. Bring in the next one.

For your information, shit-eating animal, I play both max and reasonably high initiative characters and different initiative characters play differently. I literally post the LOGS where action order can be seen, but you're too fucking stupid to even read them.

You also need to decide which part of the game you want to seethe about: early or late. I will annihilate your retarded subhuman ass in any part lol

Show me the rods and belts in this picture, shit-eater.
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>>416158642
Was going to pick angel even if it's suboptimal as fuck
Thank you very much for the recs
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>woljif: inventor of the rap battle
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>Posts double eye exploit and a merc also not going first in the round
hehehehe
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Would just slapping bard on a legend fighter work
Dont use the swift actions anyway
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Just stack initiative by stacking the mythic feat lmao
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>>416161837
uhhhhh sis I'm wasting 3 years here arguing about broken game with exploits which are impossible in actual tabletop you can't do this to me
*starts masturbating to his dog's shaking tail*
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>>416162612
>impossible in actual tabletop
Anything is possible in tabletop since your DM can allow anything they wish
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>>416162729
If DM is your friend and not some random dude
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>>416162612
>impossible in actual tabletop
Lmao Diviner Wizard is even stronger in tabletop due to applications of the school abilities outside of combat, you fucking buffoon.
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh how is death attack supposed to work?
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>>416163891
Supposed to?
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>>416145132
Hey shithead, and I'm still missing flame curse for 1.5 damage of those magma blasts, and double fortune and bit of luck for 93% crit chance, and I can't fit all the attacks in the log. This is completely unbuffed btw.
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>>416164208
I'm even trying with toybox making the enemy always roll 1 but it doesn't do anything, I have 90 stealth, use hide in plain sight to be undetected and it just doesn't do anything
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>>416164439
>melee nodamage trash
Lmao subhuman shit-eater. This nodamage shitbuild is utterly irrelevant in a game where melee is capable of doing tens ofthousands of damage per round or infinite damage. I already explained here: >>416157968

Always remember: there is nothing your cuckgend shitbuild can do that comes even close to a proper mythic path build.

Now snap your fucking neck.
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>>416164981
I'm sorry froggy, but you just got ousted as a shitter.
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>have problems with Lainns/Wendu quest because my PC is a squishy mage
>Just have Camelia run through the building alone
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lol it just doesn't do anything
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>kalavakus does literally incalculable damage on the charge, because no one can even calculate all the attacks
>charges so hard the PC freezes since it has trouble processing all the attacks
>LOW estimate is 40k damage per charge

>trickster does literally, unironically, non-metaphorically infinite damage in melee via an infinite attack loop
>freezes the PC for seconds as well

>kinetard cuckgend retard thinks his putridogshit nodamage shitbuild is even in the same dimension as actual mythic path builds

Lmao.

>b-but it's more damage than a direct d-damage c-caster!
Just like the other builds I mentioned? Why did you compare a MELEE shitbuild that deals nodamage compared to good melee builds to a caster >>416143389, you fucking animal? Do you think I'm psychic or that I'm going to decode your shitbuild from some barely coherent drivel you shat out? I won't.

I'll simply remind you that cuckgend is trash who cannot compete with actual mythic paths and propose that you snap your fucking neck.
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And the funny thing is that a DC caster still mogs your nodamage shitbuild lmao.
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Does dominate monster work on stronger demons or are they all immune?
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>>416168868
>Does dominate monster work on stronger demons or are they all immune?
It's a mind-affecting spell and a compulsion. Any enemy who is immune to either is going to be immune. The number of enemies worth mentioning who are like this is very low, though, because only Gallu demons and select few demon lords like Areelu and Deskari fit this bill. Don't remember whether Baphomet is immune, but he probably is (I greater Coammanded him so he shouldn't be immune to mind-affecting and I don't remember whether he's immune to compulsions). Areshkagal is not immune.

Undead are immune as well, but their immunity can be bypassed via an Undead bloodline.

I don't remember any magical beasts or monstrous humanoids with these immunities, but technically their immunities can be bypassed via the Serpentine bloodline as well, but I don't think it has any practical in-game value due to lack of such enemies.
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what's the difference between invisibility and stealth anyway? This hide in plain sight thing is quite cool
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>>416169631
>Demon Lords aren't immune to mind-affecting
Pathetic.
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>>416170862
Mephisto is also not immune to mind-affecting and is vulnerable to non-compulsion enchantments lmao.
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>>416169631
Really appreciate the detailed answer
Thank you
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>>416159464
Welcome to the team
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I am retarded, please recommend some good build guides preferably not requiring pets.
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Total retard here. Someone give me a melee build that can clear challenging on Kingmaker with minimal rests.
I've tried a Sword and Shield Fighter, a Two Handed Cleave Fighter, a Monk, an Aldori Defender and a Sword Saint, but I always struggle with the game and quit between levels 4-8 after getting filtered and frustrated by enemies.
I usually grab weapon focus, power attack, and then the weapon style feats for my build (such as Cleave, TWF, Unarmed feats etc.). But irregardless of my build, I always go down in like 1-2 rounds, and I struggle to even hit the enemy. Even when employing buffs and abusing grease/glitter dust.
Yet I come here, and I see people doing Unfair with ease...so I must I missing something
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I want to make a dragon that doesn't follow the Golden Dragon path, so I instead decided on this Dragon-Legend build. I'm not a master build creator so I'd like to hear if there are some things to improve. By the way, I don't care if my build can't one shot every boss and I don't like using teamwork feats.
Race and Attributes:
>Aasimar, 16 strength, 14 dex, 14 con, 13 int, 10 wis, 17 charisma(Get charisma to 19, then put all attribute points into strength)
Progression:
>1 Scaled fist level
>1 Bloodrager level for infinite rage and faster movement
>3 sorcerer levels
>4 dragon disciple levels
>1 vivisectionist level for mutagen and sneak attack
>10 eldritch knight levels
>6 dragon disciple levels
>10 arcane trickster levels
>I'm honestly at a loss for the last three levels so I'd appreciate any tips
Feats:
>I won't list every feat but the important ones will be the weapon focus and critical line for bite, power attack, accomplished sneak attack and cleaving finish

Essentially:
>3 Sorcerer/10 Dragon Disciple/10 Eldritch Knight/10 Arcane Trickster/1 Vivisectionist/1 Bloodrager/1 Scaled fist/ 4 whatever

Do I even need the Arcane trickster levels once I get my caster level up to 20?
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>>416172526
holy soulless garbage
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>>416172526
classic arcane trickster monk bloodrager dragon
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>>416172685
I have too many level ups to know what to do with.
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>>416054880
so whats the next pathfinder campaign hope we get some LE kino
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Should I run a human or assimar for angel mythic? curious which is better for both roleplay and actual gameplay
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>>416173276
Next game is all about devils to make up for the lackluster mythic path.
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Hell%27s_Rebels
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Hell%27s_Vengeance
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>>416173516
Can you even play as a good character in Cheliax?
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more like chudliax
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>>416173442
Aasimar + Angel + Oracle is probably one of the best fish builds in the game. You also get a double halo and nice fluffy wings.
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>>416173978
I don't get it. What did he mean by this?
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>>416174148
>fish
Gish
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>>416174317
Gish is not a real word. I'm sure you meant fish.
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>>416174148
what does fish mean?
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can someone explain to me how stealth and invisibility differ mechanically? If I'm stealthed and invisible invisibility doesn't add anything? Can I attack enemies as flat footed?
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does declaring independence actually change anything? Will you start a war on two fronts or something?
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Anyone have some cool female bard portraits?
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>>416172526
You could take 2 paladin levels for ultimate saves
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>>416174519
It changes two lines in the ending slides
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my fighter keeps dying :(
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>>416174519
I think you don't get any more diplo rank ups
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>>416174886
amazing
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>>416174891
cast displacement on him
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Do you really need a PhD in table top gaming before being able to play and enjoy this game or is /v/ just retarded as usual?
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Are there any good melee angel builds out there or do you just run a caster?
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>>416174454
Invisibility is magical in nature, meaning that different spells can fuck with it (unless you also use Mind Blank). Stealth is unaffected by spells like See Invisibility or True Seeing. Yes, in both cases you get all the advantages associated with attacking while being unseen.

>If I'm stealthed and invisible invisibility doesn't add anything?
Normally, Invisibility gives you a +20 on stealth checks, I think. No idea what happens if you sneak while invisible into an enemy that can see invisible though.
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>>416175123
Crusader Cleric.
Battle Oracle.
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Does the giant flaming sword that is in the cover art actually exist in game?
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>>416171956
Mutt warrior
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>>416174986
>Welcome to owlcat, may Shelyn brighten and vivify your day!
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>>416175337
assassin hide in plain sight is pretty cool and it's a move action so you can hide and vital strike in the same turn, the issue is that you get mauled in the next enemy round
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How does aggro even work in this game?
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>>416175870
No... just like the lich staff from the evil art doesn't exist, or that hammer femTrickster is holding, or the armor femDemon is wearing...
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>>416172260
Sword and Shield Ranger. Take the shield weapon style and Bash things whenever you crit.
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so perfect..
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>>416176847
>cam will never eat your cock
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>>416173276
It's Ruins of Azlant if Owlcat knows what's good for them.
>Pilgrims in fantasy south america slowly going from village to city over each chapter
>Aberrations
>Immortals
>Millenia long conspiracies
>Demon Lord tier final boss as a non-mythic
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>>416177105
Do you think they'll fix the game by the time they release the next one?
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>>416178118
Lol
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>>416178118
A lot if people here defend the bugs as a feature. Class feature doesn’t work or quest breaks randomly? That’s just a based noob trap. See also how this community defends the implementation of Crane Stance, which does not work anything at all like the description implies because shields and certain two handers count as free handed.
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I got some awesome daggers from an act 4 quest, Is Woljif for having in a party?
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>>416171956
Anything with mutagen which means Muttwarrior and Vivisector.

Instinctual Warrior (barbarian subclass).

Dex-based Aldori Defender -> Swordlord. Only dex-based, because STR-based Aldori defenses are weak.

Two handed fighter with a reach weapon like Glaive/Bardiche/Fauchard and the Lunge feat. You will have literally zero defenses and will have to attack from behind your tank, but your damage output will be good.
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>>416179390
Woljif is for crossbows.
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>>416179595
Delete this right now.
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>>416179436
>Swordlord
why not duelist? Swordlord seems pretty weak with those intimidation shenanigans
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>>416179805
Why duelist? Parry doesn't work so all you have is just Canny Defense which is capped at +10. Aldori Defender + Swordlord gets comparable defenses, all of its features work and it's actually fun to play with the active combat maneuvers and not just autoattack spam.
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>>416180092
Is there a list somewhere of shit that doesn't work and doesn't work in the intended way?
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>>416180092
how is swordlord good at combat maneuvers?
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>>416180280
Not that I know of, but if there was, it would be almost as long as my cock.
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>>416180418
Shatter Confidence allows the Swordlord to cause his Disarm and Sunder maneuvers to either inflict Shaken on the enemy or if the enemy is already Shaken, increase the attack and save penalty by an extra -1 and deny the enemy morale bonus to attack and saves. Shaken can be auto-inflicted by Frightful Aspect so you'd denying morale bonuses right off the bat. Since heroism gives the enemy morale bonuses, Swordlord negates it and most bosses come prebuffed with (Greater) Heroism. You can also do this automatically via crits, but crits are unreliable on a duelling sword unless you go Trickster and even then only in the endgame.

Removing Insight and Competence bonuses via Confounding Duelist is less important, but it can still have value in case of the enemy being buffed via Foresight to remove the Reflex save buff when working with a caster in the party.
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Queenbros, i wanted a young and pure princess as my reason to fight demons.
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>>416181536
sounds boring aren't there classes specifically made for maneuvers?
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>>416182217
Two-handed fighter and Swordlord are literally THE maneuver classes.
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>>416182339
2h fighter gets bonuses to perform maneuvers though
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>>416173276
It's so far into the future I don't even know what to think about it.
I guess they could do pirates, and you as the captain. Would get old right after rogue trader to be honest, so maybe they will avoid that.
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What does Loremaster 10/ Wizard 10 actually deliver over Wizard 20?
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>>416182548
Swordlord gets extra effect on maneuvers. They both work slightly differently.

Swordlord really shines against gigabuffed bosses. Do you know what "dispel chaff" is in DnD? It's a term used to describe extra buffs that are put on the character just to make dispelling the really important buffs harder. Greater Dispel dispels only 1 buff per 4 CL and it does not allow you to target which buffs you want to dispel so if the target has something like 20 buffs you're going to shit your fucking pants trying to get rid of that Greater Heroism mixed in with dispel chaff. A Swordlord can just stroll in and *woosh*: enemy gets his Greater Heroism negated and suffers extra -2 debuff on attack and saves resulting in a net -6 debuff on both stats (assuming the target gets autoshaken at the start of combat via Frightful Aspect).
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>>416183290
You become a master, of the lore.
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>>416183290
5 cross-class spells.

You can grab stuff like Greater Command, Cave Fangs, Vinetrap, Slowing Mud, Holy Word, Blade Barrier, Sound Burst, Polar Midnight, Destruction and other spells useful to a specialist in a certain school.

Illusion is literally the only school that does not benefit from Loremaster levels, because all Illusion spells are arcane.
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>>416183290
Trickster's crit and metamagic feats
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>>416184057
You can't get CNS via Loremaster. Sad.
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I wonder which "fixes" will owlcat deliver with the next patch.
If they never fix stuff like tainted sneak attack it's truly over
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there's just no pleasing some people
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>finally replace my gtx 1070 with rtx 3070
>keep the FPS locked to 60
>blessed silence while I'm playing
aaahh
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>>416184318
He's a dwarf, he has to GROOOOODGE
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>>416184292
I'm waiting for the dlc so I can start a second playthrough
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>>416183908
Are cross class spells better than extra wizard feats?
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>>416184292
Maybe they'll give icy prison its name back
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>>416185381
maybe they'll make death attack actually work...
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My PC is a DC mage and I'm incredibly disappointed at the arena storyline. I thought it would be hard like one in underrail but it was piss easy, none of them had freedom of movement or resistances you usually find in demons
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>>416185296
>Are cross class spells better than extra wizard feats?
Yes, as long as you take the relevant spells you need for a school you specialize in. Some spells like Greater Command and Polar Midnight are build defining for a specialist in the appropriate school.
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>>416185691
It exists to show how much of a strong cool guy the knight commander is at this point, not even balors are a real threat
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>>416185729
polar midnight is pretty underwhelming in the end I just spammed baleful polymorph
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>>416186168
Polar Midnight is the Transmuter's AoE trash destroying spell. Without it you have Slow and uhhhhhhhhhhh...
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Is there any major difference between the avenging angel and the redeemer angel paths?
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>>416186365
just use evocation as 2nd school, I regretted taking loremaster for that. Entangle is great in the early/mid game though
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>>416186645
Transmutation is already thin on DC bonuses, I wouldn't play a dual-school specialist with Transmutation, because that second expanded arsenal costs you 2 DC and without a second expanded arsenal your evocation is going to be weaksauce.
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So how do I make Seelah tanky? She seems to die as fast as anyone else
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>>416186808
more than enough for demon which is the most thematic transmutation path in my opinion
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>>416187005
Demon can make any school work, true.
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>>416185832
Yet I can't clear the meat markets :(
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>>416172526
>Get charisma to 19,
?????? You only get stat bonuses on even stat levels, anon. Odd numbers like 19 are exactly the same as thd number prior to them (in this case, 18)
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>>416187167
Clear them piecewise. Aggro the demons one by one through dialogue and quests.
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>>416187434
That's cheating anon
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Retraining your character removes all their spells learned from scrolls

Great
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>>416187203
You need 10+x in casting stat to be able to cast x level spells, but then again I'm almost certain that bonuses from items, +4 to stats from legend etc count so it's not really necessary to invest at all?
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the lawful thing to do would be kill them both right?
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>>416188836
do whatever your character would do
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what class and path for this
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>>416188836
The lawful neutral thing? Yeah, it's as lawful as it gets.
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>>416188013
Get ToyBox
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>been playing Paladin for 12 levels without using any of my spell slots
Sooo like.. what are some good spells?
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>>416188013
you can just buy the scrolls from vendors
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>>416189557
You're just a smite bot, everything else is secondary.
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>>416189414
Aruefags can't even bait right
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>>416189557
Bless weapon, bestow grace, aura of courage, archon's aura, crusader's edge there are lots of good paladin spells, a few of them are unique to them too.
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Jesus, Camellia, calm down
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>>416185691
>hard like one in underrail
Carnifex is just an initiative skill check.
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>>416190671
>asks if it's lawful
>the most lawful alignment is LN
>answer based on that since that's what anon asked
>anon randomly accuses me of being an aruefag and baiting
Why are you deranged like this?
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>>416191773
>swarmposter is the CHADgptposter
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>>416188836
the lawful option is to cure her of being a puppet and THEN kill her
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>>416191773
I opened, read "Regongar, his head still inside Octavia's anus" and closed.
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Commissioned more Swarm porn. Enjoy. These two have been long overdue for a swarming.
https://files.catbox.moe/ypxr4g.jpg
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>talk to some random boatmen
>think its just a quest or something
>been stuck on some ship sidequest for 7 hours
I kinda love it not gonna lie
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I just realized my planned party lacks an arcane caster. I could do without Bucksiel but I can't do without haste unless I buy scrolls and shit.
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>>416193002
>after all this time, finally anevia and irabeth
Swarmanon, i must KNEEL.
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>>416193002
king of /ocg/
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So if Military is increased by recruiting troops, and logistics is increased by building buildings, how are leadership and diplomacy increased?
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>>416193571
I only commissioned it. The artist is Anonarts, check him out. He did pic related.
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ok I knew there is "more enemies" on core
but the amount of extra gargoyles spawning during the fight where you meet Regil is ridiculous
especially since they appear at the fucking back of the fucking cave and not just the, you know, entrance
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>>416194569
I'd make so many waifu pics if I knew how to draw
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>>416194828
Just use stable diffusion bro.
I "made" this portrait >>416071895
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>>416194967
and it's generic and unremarkable
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>>416195082
Because I wanted it this way?
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>>416195142
I don't want generic unremarkable art
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>>416195142
You mean because it's AI, and AI can't make anything that's not generic.
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>>416194967
>>416195142
AI is an abomination.
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i don't mind AI if it lets me make the waifu pics i want by myself but that doesn't seem to be the case for now..
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>>416193002
Do you imagine yourself as the swarm, anevia or irabeth?
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Doesn't doing midnight isles overlevel you for the rest of the campaign?
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>>416197098
They will all be swarm eventually.
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REEEEE WHY CAN'T I MAKE ARUE FALL

>>416197175
Good question, what about the gear?
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>>416197175
Only by about 1 level. Doesn't make too much a difference long term
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>>416197098
Swarm.
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>tfw all those bad deeds Arue did
She was incredibly based god damn
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Why does regill have such a niche weapon choice

cant find an upgrade anywhere
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>>416200919
Honorable judgement is all you really need
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>not even TTT or DarkCodex have mythic ascended poison
it's fucking over
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Arue romance is cringe
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Oh yes. Greybor's reputation will soon be my reputation.
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But seriously, this shit is long as fuck, hope the reward in the end is worth it.
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>>416202427
Man, this is like one of the only two cool things I've done since becoming a devil and it's for fucking Greybor.
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>>416202743
Aruebros.. why does greybor keep getting all the cool content for himself..
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>>416202480
Nobody tell him
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>>416202743
If you lived in Golarion why the fuck would you ever sell your soul to devils, you'd think you would do everything you could to get into one of the good afterlives.
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>>416203545
people like reggie and grebby probably think they can outjew the devils
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>>416203235
Anon I just wanted to progress my main quest after a long day at work and got stuck here instead, dont tell me it gets worse.
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How do I clear the fleshmarket? The fat one eyed fuck has like 1k hp and my ember can't blast through him
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>>416203832
There are two more maps, unlocked in act 4 and 5. Some gear is indeed great, for example third or fourth level of second map has best caster robe in the game.
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>>416204187
buff and debuff
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>>416188836
Listen up, anons. I'm going to explain to you what Lawful ACTUALLY means.
Lawful does NOT mean you're a braindead moron who worships the law and fill follow it to the letter without a single though of nuisance or sympathy. The only Lawful archetype that falls under that sterotype is "Lawful Neutral".
Lawful by itself means that you're character is disciplined. They follow a strict codex of laws, principles, and morals. This is why even Lawful "Evil" characters can be reasoned with and trusted (to an extent).
Murdering Arueshale here is not a lawful good/evil action. Depending on your viewpoint, it's either a Lawful Neutral action or a Chaotic option.
A Lawful Good/Evil character would have no reason to strike down Arueshale. She's upheld her side of the bargin with you. Her intentions are noble and righteous. And she's shown that she can be trusted. Moreover, there is already precedent for redeemed devils and demons. On top of this, a goddess, Desna, vouches for Arue.
So for you to turn and attempt to strike Arue down...you are either a braindead lawful neutral moron, or a chaotic retard who can only act on their emotions because you lack discipline and foresight
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>>416204236
Damn, its gonna take me at least 2 months to finish this game.
Thanks for the info!
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>>416204187
Remember everytime you fail to beat him you create alternative universe where he forces Arue to pleasure him
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>>416204304
I have every buff, I can't debuff mentally him because he has like 50 will, he's resistant to everything else except mental stuff. His BAB is like 42
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>>416204387
>A Lawful Good/Evil character would have no reason to strike down Arueshale. She's upheld her side of the bargin with you. Her intentions are noble and righteous.
her mere existence as a demon is enough to justify smiting her.
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>>416204636
then lower that will with mind fog
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>>416203545
You're memory wiped when you die so what does it matter to you?
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>>416204743
That's a will save too
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>>416204963
then buff yourself to increase the DC or get a good roll
>ember
debuff him, there's a hex that forces your opponent to take the lower roll
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I just realized, what happens to the inventories of slavers I kill?
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>>416204793
if you're memorywiped when you die why does Pharasma send you to an afterlife for shit you have no recollection of doing
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>>416202743
It turns out the contract makes him stay loyal even if you've been a dickbag to him the whole game
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>>416205936
Because all the evil gods would start fucking shit up if Pharasma stopped their flow of assholes
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>>416202743
Who in their right mind would sign such a thing?
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>>416205531
How do I get my DC to 50 at level 15? Lowest roll is all fine and good but damn
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Do people bully you for playing a manlet in this game?
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>>416204732
>her mere existence as a demon is enough to justify smiting her.
Objectively false. You don't smite Demons because they're demons, you smite them because they're evil aligned enemies that cannot be reasoned with.
Arue is an exception to this rule, and your character knows this considering they've already been witnessing her acts of heroism for 2 and half arcs in the story.
Your character has SEEN Arue warn the Crusader's of the impending Demon attack on Kenabares. Your character has SEEN Desna vouch for him. Your character has SEEN the demons imprison her. Your character has likely even FOUGHT side by side with her to retake Drezen.
Narrative wise, you could even have Seelah check her to see if she's evil with "Detect Evil". You'll find that you won't be able to because she's Chaotic Neutral. Proving that she's a demon who's overcome her very nature to become something heroic.
A Lawful character therefore has no reason to strike Arue down. If he were to not trust her because she's a demon, then the lawful action would be to send her away. To strike her down simply because of her race is a "chaotic" action.
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If Arue can be redeemed then why don't every god just forgive all the evil shit every other demon did?
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I don't cast any elemental spells because I think they're dumb and they don't align with my character RP
I also will never cast Weird because it is the stupidest name for a spell ever
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>>416208109
Because just forgiving them wouldn't redeem them.
Arue has fought against her own nature and kind for a long time before even meeting you, and still is susceptible to fail.
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>>416208131
Based transmutation chad
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>Abyss in act 4
Can't you just murder everything as an angel Doomguy style?
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>>416054880
aeon gay
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Succ or queen for angel into legend romamce?
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>>416208109
Name another exception in Galorian lore where Abyss Larva made it past Abyss' temptations and refused to workship demonlords?
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>>416208957
queen
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>>416208957
>queen
>romance
What romance?
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>>416208957
succ just has more content, and that content is better.
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>>416209436
>cringy reddit romance
>better
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>>416208957
>legend
Harem or nothing
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>>416209687
As opposed to the 100 years old queen that acts like a teen?
At least arue gets a proper storyline and is an actual companion
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>>416208957
Queen was a let down. There just is very little content there. They should have given more in act 5. Arue is straightforward and has a lot more content.
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why are there no greatswords
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>Romance
All of them are submissive.
This game needs a drow companion to be complete.
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>>416210915
>expects femdom from the power fantasy game
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>>416211164
Uhhh Bioware games?
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>wardstone in drezen
>it doesn't glow
This is actually irritating
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> wait for what feels like forever for Kaylessa's last event in act 3 to spawn
> it doesn't happen until after Ivory Sanctum
> Because I'm on azata I don't have 10 days to do her event
Guess I'm going to fail that questline.
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>red tiefling turns a little bit more red
>"NOOOO COMMANDER IS A DEMON"

i can't tell whether I'm being racially profiled or metagamed by my party
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>>416213042
dude just move two spaces after doing ivory sanctum you get it as a random encounter immediately
even teleporting to drezen after ivory sanctum instantly gives you the encounter
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>>416214482
I got the encounter fine. What I'm not going to able to finish is the table event that takes 10 days to resolve and is what the quest is ultimately waiting on to conclude.
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>>416213042
Azata doesn't have to rush the Midnight Fane, you can wait for the queen if you want.
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>>416214823
I guess but I don't care enough about Kaylessa to not do the crazy Azata shit that the path is all about. Though I am going to see if I can cheese it with toybox somehow first...
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what feats should I take to make a good summoner out of harrim in kingmaker? I want someone on my team to be able to use summon monster and elemental spells well. also, any tips for tristan?
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>>416215210
sauce?
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Do you like elf?
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>>416215210
you can just stop talking to the angel before revealing you know how to break the seal to postpone the assault and still pick the azata option later
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>>416216453
AI
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>>416216591
i want to suck on her ears
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>>416216632
holy shit I didn't know that. Let me try it, thanks
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>>416216636
i fucking knew it
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>>416216770
The color blending on the wings which were impainted on as well as a few flaws in Arue's appearance give it away, among other things
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>>416216632
I wasn't able to break the conversation before the azata option popped up, then after not choosing it breaking the convo, subsequent conversations made no mention of it. So I think you have to pick it when it appears.
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>>416217330
you have to stop talking to him immediately iirc, idk if it also depends on your previous dialogues/quest completion tho
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just turn on instant events with toybox, yeesh
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>>416217893
That's what I did
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>>416217893
>instant events
What?
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Trickster's option with Vellexia is just amazingly satisfying I love it.
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>>416204187
>>416204531
Still stuck. Why do I have to face a level 30 meatball as the weakest mythic path? I can't even dispel his shit because of that crazy high caster level, I can't CC him because his +40 saves (32 WIS). He also has 900hp, 40-50 AC/BAB. I don't want to respec and go full illusion school to get a lucky phantasmal kill off. My Ember is a triple bloodline blaster with loremaster levels into ray dice + staff+ ring + belt and even she can't nuke him with hellfire ray. My camcam can only hit 50 AC so she can't tank for shit

What the fuck were owlkeks thinking? Seriously, azata at this point is very weak and this is their mythic quest
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>>416216591
I like warp fish more.
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>>416219336
azata used to be stronk
>>416207156
increase your casting stat
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>>416213042
>>416215210
>>416217330
Azata option doesn't have a time limit. It takes a week to get ready and then you can wait forever, just choose it
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>>416220216
>increase your casting stat
I've pumped int whole game and have a 6+ crown too, I think the total is like 30.
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odd: I go STR based Sword saint
evens: I go DEX tank Sword saint
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>turn on instant events
>relic restoration events are bugged now

cheaters never come first I guess
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Is it better to side with ramien or hulrun?
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that depends. hulrun is a retard but gameplay-wise he's the best choice since he clears the hardest room in the gray garrison for you. all ramien does is send his 2 cuck priests with you and they put like 2 regular demons to sleep, very useless

follow ur heart
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>>416224450
If you wait until after Defender's Heart attack, Ramien because it gives you more options and a potential companion early. Before that, just tell them both to chill out and resolve it peacefully with [Angel], then pick Hulrun because he's more useful to the crusade and has more interesting character development later on.
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Just unliving in this moment, having the time of his unlife. What I'd give to shed my mortal flesh and be him.
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>>416204531
>arue was literally the town bicycle
bros...? you said she was the best one...
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>>416189185
Cavalier/2h fighter -> angel
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>>416225016
>succubus had sex
wtf bros how can this happen
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>>416207626
Yeah Wenduag calls you a child and iomedae, areelu, and nocticula all agree you should jump into the wound
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>>416225962
I've heard you can't romance as a Gnome/Halfling but have never seen proof.
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>>416226137
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>>416226137
I don't have a screenshot, but Camellia gives you the "I like the feeling of a 'man' inside me", with a lot of emphasis on the man part.
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What's the most SOULful builds for each Mythic?
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>>416226512
2handed fighter pure, all mythics
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Did they ever fix the elk animal companion?
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>>416226512
Angel - Paladin 20
Lich - Wizard (Necro) 20
Azata - Bard 20
Demon - Bloodrager (Abyssal Bloodline) 20
Trickster - Rogue 20
Aeon - Monk 20
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>>416226512
>Angel oracle with gravesinger and wolf pet from nature mystery
>Aeon sacred huntmaster with dog companion and gravesinger greataxe
>Azata cavalier of the paw with grave singer greataxe
>Trickster, any martial who can use gravesinger greataxe
>Demon, mad dog barbarian with dog companion with gravesinger greataxe
>Lich Beastrider with dog pet and gravesinger greataxe
Make sure that all your companions also have pets, unfortunately there is only one gravesinger greataxe per playhrough.
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>>416159464
NOW BOY, A-AH SAY BOY!
NOW WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS UNWARRANTED THREAT ON MAH PERSON?

AH CAN’T CAST SPELLS FOREVA, I’M NOT A SOR’CERER. I NEED PUZZLES, MY BRAIN CRAVES PUZZLES!
YOU’VE GOTTAH THINK OF THINGS LIKE THAT BOY
NOW YOU JUST… ugh, stand up straight son, you’re tripping over your own two feet.

NOW AH KNOW JUST WHAT YER GONNA SAY; GO CAST CHAIN-LIGHTNING
BUT YOUR NOT LISTNIN’ BOY, I NEED PUZZLES TO GET WANDS.
(He’s a nice boy but he’s like a tattoo: gets under ya skin)
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>>416226512
>Angel Halfling Crusader with a Sling Staff
>Aeon Halfling Inquisitor with a Sling Staff
>Lich Halfling Witch with a Sling Staff
>Azata Halfling Bard with a Sling Staff
>Trickster Halfling Magus with a Sling Staff
>Demon Halfling Slayer with a Sling Staff
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>>416226309
>>416226501
Not even in fantasy can manlets catch a break
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>>416215210
What model and prompt?
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>>416227970
>Halfling Witch
hey, I'm hard
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Is blacksmithing a thing in the tabletop? Can you create enchanted +5 weapons somehow?
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>>416055317
Would be too based. If I had my way that you would be the basic female build in general.
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>>416228565
Need to have a caster level three times the enhancement bonus to make magic weapons and armor but yeah.
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>>416228565
Yes but it's expensive and has limited returns in return for getting exactly what you want. You need to take feats then spend a fuckton of gold. Example from below you could make a mace with a constant True Strike effect but it'd cost like 200,000 gold.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-item-creation/
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and then they all got gibbed in one turn by a demon. what is the real lesson here?
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>>416229172
>>416229209
I wish they'd add a feature like this since they refuse to add a good variety of weapons to all weapon types
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>>416226309
if hes not a mutation warrior you have no taste
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>>416229868
>not incense alchemist
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Considering building my next playthrough almost entirely around all my other companions buffing my Commander and debuffing my enemies. Thinking about maybe using a Dirge Bard and a Tranquil Whisperer Bard which would also double as back-row archers and a Hex-focused Witch to focus on debuffing enemies to prepare them for my frontrow fucker. What main class or build should I use to play as a big buffed-up motherfucker who fucks shit up? What other two classes should I get to round this out?
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>>416191773
>>416193002
swarmchad I kneel
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>>416173516
>hells vengeance/rebels
would be really fucking good but youd have to let me roleplay as Reinhard Heydrich during his wild ride in bohemia in the attempt to create the gamerstaat
>the end fight could be between you and the adventurers on the other side of the war
>combine both adventurers all or nothing war for Cheliax
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What's the female portrait for Azata?
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>>416235696
It triggers me so much that none of the mythic portraits fits any of the normal portraits
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You're playing Azata wrong. My Azata eviscerated that part of the game effortlessly on unfair as well as the quasit and the demodand compound bosses.

Aside from Gallu demons, there was absolutely nothing that could resist my CC.
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>>416235978
Are there any portrait packs somewhere that follows the transition from mythic levels? Like, gaining a halo and then a wing and then a full blown angel?
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>How do I get my DC to 50 at level 15?
If you're level 15 in the markets, you're underleveled. You're supposed to be level 15 after you kill Playful Darkness or Darazzand, you've lost a huge chunk of xp somewhere and this is without taking into account Midnight Isles.

Having your DCs in the 50s in chapter 4 is very easy when you build right. Azata Enchanter can be in the 60s, Demon Evoker can be in the 70s, Demon Enchanter can be in the 80s. 50 is nothing.
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There is also an alright tiefling edit on nexus.
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Any must-buy gear before I assault Gray Garrison? Do you get another chance to buy any of that stuff later on?
For what it's worth, I already got the Veil and I'm not spending 10k on the ring for Cumcum. Is the helmet gonna stack with DR from, say, Stoneskin?
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>>416241116
Buy the ring. Every party needs a Shaman for the hexes. Lann can easily replace the dretchfucked as a shaman.
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>>416241371
>Lann can easily replace the dretchfucked as a shaman.
I kinda want to multiclass him, but time spent hexing is time not spent exploding faggots...
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>>416192010
I am not.
Good stuff though.
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My current Lich playthrough build is 1 Scaled Fist, 5 Sorceror, 4 Dragon Disciple, 10 Eldritch Knight. Having a blast, but armor is not required.

Heres my AC at level 14, it's actually even crazier because this doesn't include the Crane Style feats he has.
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Post cute halfling portraits



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