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>Previous Thread
>>415552050
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sneed tf2
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will tf2 ever receive a real update again? i know the answer and it's no
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Did someone say Quake?
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(Voice) Heavy: No
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>tfw might actually get a fempyro commission and the only thing stopping me is not knowing who to get it from
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKMIyj3Wpaw
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https://youtu.be/Libic29tjbs
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Perfection.
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https://youtu.be/hkHWSlksY9k
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>>415994636
Post a link to it here when it's done
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why didnt they let you apply warpaint to your preexisting weapons
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>>415995641
gimme a chance to find an artist first
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why couldnt the unusual weapon effects be applied on the regular looking weps or australiums
why couldnt unusual taunt effects also apply to the stock taunts
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>>415994629
didn't read lol
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>>415995829
Wouldn't make as much money as needing everyone to buy new stranges.
And then we can sell strange transfer tools for even more money!
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Valve would make infinite money if they simply announced that unusual miscs can be unboxed again with any effect.
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>no_hats_bgum.vpk loaded
>no_christmas_lights.vpk loaded
>no_botkiller.vpk loaded
>no_unusuals.vpk loaded
>no_skins.vpk loaded
lmaoing at you fags spending thousands of dollars to play dress up
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poorfag cope o;
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i would like to do cool pyro combos but i have a disease in my brain that makes me not able to mentally keep up with switching weapons so much
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>>415996204
you do what you can afford and I'll do the same
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kek the amount of insta cope from people that actually paid real money on a 512x512 texture
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;o
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>>415996918
i bought the really cheap ugly xmas wrapping paper/themed ones
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participation medal chads where we at?
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steam friends
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you will die lonely
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I used the dragon's fury for 200 hours without changing primaries and now I can airblast anything with the regular flamethrowers
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we all die alone
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IF you play soldier do you
1) use gunboats
2) use shotgun
3) use mantreads
4) use banner, if so, which one?
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>>416000609
the concheror, it's like the quick fix of banners
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>>415994964
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>>416000387
storm fronds
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>>415994463
What is Pyro burning?
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guys i found out you can equip the soldier's stogie and the cuban bristle crisis at the same time
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>>416000609
Shotgun, I feel gimped without the ability to finish off targets without reloading
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does anyone have any more videos of fishstick getting mad
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>>416002929
You are like a little baby
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>>416003217
but then i can't wear the weed hat
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>>416003256
Ask Valve for a fourth misc and use the Marxman then. We must go further
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surely one of these days this will exist....
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Why doesnt valve just do reruns of old cases alongside new ones
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Because then the skins won't sell on the community market for nearly as much, and valve won't get as much money.
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>>416003635
They sort of used to do that when we had crates. Old stranges would periodically be re-released. Even the Kritzkrieg was.
For some reason when they switched to cases they decided artificial scarcity and skimming off the top of market resellers was better. Maybe that actually makes more money.
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>>416000609
shotgun because the gunboats are too powerful
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>join an uncleropia server
>just keep hitting killbind in spawn
>five minutes later I get kicked for scamming
bros I thought the 'opia was for fun
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pub 5cp is one of the most miserable experiences you can have in tf2
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whats the best engineer cosmetic loadout
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>>416004482
Fat Engie
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>>416004482
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>>416004482
Rescue ranger pistol eureka effect
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>>416004839
thats not cosmetic
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>>416004554
how much did that set you back
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all my skill went away
i can't frag anymore
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This may be a really dumb question but I am using flawless widescreen and I'm wondering if it's safe to have running while I play TF2. I don't want to forget to close it before playing only to have VAC detect it as some kind of cheat.
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What would the mercs opinion be?
>scout: A
>soldier: B
>pyro: A
>demoman: A
>heavy: A
>engineer: B
>medic: B
>sniper: A
>spy: B
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Are you winning son?
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>>416007408
nah. engineer, medic, and spy would say A because B is literally impossible.
even idiots (like scout) can see that A is right while absolute retards (like soldier) think its B.
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>>416007408
Why do you think the smart classes like Engineer and Medic would pick B? A is the correct answer, the object is stationary, it's not going to magically gain momentum from the portal. The portal has no mass.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1Yq7n9zLU
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>the dumbest merc is actually soldier
>its the one most people self insert as
:thinking:
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>>416007408
based
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>repo leak is from 2016
>just before valve started spitballing new heavy weapons just in case heavy won the contest
ITS NOT FAIR I WANT WIP HEAVY UNLOCKS
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>>416009441
>implying it wasn't rigged in advance so that Pyro would win
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Cope seething incels you will never be racist
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Griefing the enemy team with the eureka effect is hilarious yet somehow almost totally ineffective at stopping them from winning, and I don't know how to feel about that. Must be my retarded team's fault.
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Man, where the fuck are these bots coming from man? It went from those horns anniversary, now it's filled with nice shots mate. Should TF2 just get rid of the f2p and lock it behind paywall. Idk... Perhaps 10 bucks? 20 bucks for some weapons unlock.
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how do you respond without sounding mad?
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I have been running into a lot of very good snipers with expensive weapons and no cosmetics
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>>416010982
glad you recognize my superiority
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>>416009017
>he bases how effective pyro should be on compfag gameplay
LOL!
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>>415995910
>why couldnt unusual taunt effects also apply to the stock taunts
self-made unusual caps do this
make your unusuals goyim
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>>416000609
shotgun (reserve or stock)
banner (buff or backup)
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>>416004856
rescue ranger is pretty bad as a weapon, you might as well use it for cosmetic purpose
>>416009525
Nah, I think that Valve expected Heavy to win.
>his JI weapon is actually jungle-themed
>Jungle Inferno appears to be a last minute name change, similar to "bucket list update" (love & war) and "manndate" (gun mettle)
>pyro weapons are pretty bugged
>the update was delayed, likely because they spent a hellton of time in attempts to fix said bugs
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>>416010982
https://steamcommunity.com/id/prazek/
?
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>>416000609
Black Box with the Concheror and the Half-Zatoichi
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here lies scout. he ran fast and died a virgin
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>>416010982
demand reparations
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What is the appeal of playing pyro? More specifically, why would you main this class?

In my 1000 hours in game, only about 50 of them are for pyro.
Most of those hours have been on x10 servers using the detonator and back scratcher to become a diet trolldier, or if the enemy team has multiple competent soldiers as a counterpick.
I can understand why newer players would enjoy pyro, as the flamethrower doesn't require good aim to be efficient.
But why main it? What's in it for those who delve deeper?

I suppose combos are cool, but the damage seems so pathetic for the effort required.
Wow, the flare deals 90 damage to burning players! It's not like you can do the same with a shotgun and with no setup (the range of the flare gun doesn't matter as you still have light them first).
I just don't see it as anything more than a class you play to deny players who are playing too good.
Soldier/demo wrecking your team? Airblast.
Spy keeps killing your heavy/medic combo? Spycheck.
Sniper shutting you down? Make it impossible for him to aim.

Is there any appeal to pyro other than being a bother and not letting other people play?
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>>416018198
>Most of those hours have been on x10 servers
not exactly a reasonable representation of the game now is it?
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>>416018198
I like the airblast mechanic and the unique defensive gameplay it provides that doesn't center around healing or outright damage mitigation like the battalion's backup
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>>416018547
That's of my pyro playtime
What I was trying to say with that is that I've never really had fun with the class except for on those servers
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>>416018198
i play too aggressively and pyro suits that
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>>416018198
quite literally what you described, its a low skill no aim class. people that main him cope with that fact by exploiting every single gimmick, glitch, or annoying mechanic that pyro has to be comparable to the rest of the cast. and even then he still isnt even close.
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>>416018656
ah i see. anyway, different strokes for different folks. i'm a demoman main but i mained pyro for quite a while before that. playing a relatively unique support class can be fun. not many games have a pyromaniac and just stick to bullets and bombs
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all i ever wanted was a quake lightning gun pyro gun for pyro
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>>416018198
dragon's fury
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>>416000609
You buffoon where is the BISON
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>>416018198
What is the appeal of playing Soldier?
I can understand why newer players would enjoy Soldier, as the Rocket Launcher doesn't require any aim to be efficient.
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>>416004482
Mining Light
Tools of the Trade
Builder's Blueprints
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>>416000609
I used to use Gunboats a lot, really nice to be able to get where you want without thinking too much about health
However, the additional survivability and damage output the shotgun gives you is just too good to give up, so I use that now
>mfw I pull out the shotgun against the Pyro that's just waiting to airblast and his brain hotwires
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>>416020021
>the furry pyromain has entered the thread
might as well drop the discussion here, we all know how it goes now.
>valid criticism about pyro's lack of skill
>MUH OTHER CLASS!
>MUH GLITCHES!
>MUH ANNOYING MECHANICS OTHER PEOPLE WOULD REMOVE FROM THE GAME IF GIVEN THE CHOICE!
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>say Soldier is a tutorial baby class
>AAAAAAH PYRO MAIN PYRO MAIN PYRO MAIN!!! SOLDIER TAKES THE MOST SKILL WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Point proven.
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>NO NO NO EVERYONE THAT CAN SEE THROUGH MY OBVIOUS PRO PYRO SHITPOSTING IS A SOLDIER MAIN AHHHH SAVEME NIGGERMAN!!!
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ladies please
you're both easy classes
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>>416020574
>MUH OTHER CLASS
point proven.
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>>416020643
My post had nothing to do with Pyro other than responding to a yet another Pyro hate post.

>>416020754
Exactly.
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>>416020942
there's no way it's that fucking big
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>>416020942
and yet we all know that you are just a seething pyro main mad that people hate him but not soldier.
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*laughs in demoman*
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>>416021375
rocket splash is a 146 HU radius sphere, or 292 HU in diameter
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>>416021431
Pyro is my fifth most played class. He's more fun and takes more skill than Soldier, but he's definitely not my "main".
You don't have to be a pyrofag to see that Soldier is fucking retarded, and not just in character.
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>>416020021
>>416020338
>>416020574
>>416020643
>>416020756
>>416020942
>>416021431

Cool it with the finger pointing will you?
Both classes are easy to pick up, I just feel that improving your skill with Pyro doesn't bring as much of a reward as other classes
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All classes are easy to pick up especially when someone's preexisting skillset is matched to the right class, which is intentional and the point of Team Fortress.
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>>416021748
sure bro. the cow also goes caw and im the king of the moon.
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>>416021780
Improving your skills with Pyro just lets him by more on par with the other classes in terms of power, but at least he has skills to improve in the first place. He still is the second worst class in the game.

>>416022160
Thanks for understanding, Moonarch.
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>>416021915
I disagree. Some of the classes need more knowledge than others to perform at a basic level.
a new player isn't going to know that the medic and demoman's primary weapon is in the secondary slot, or what a dispenser does. Meanwhile you can give them the scout, soldier and pyro and they will perform reasonably well.
>preexisting skillset
If someone already knows how to play the class or has played a similar character in another game, then doesn't the analysis of how easy it is to pick up fail?
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>>416022463
what's the worst class? and don't say spy
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>>416022960
The Frenchman is the worst class.
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Why are aussies so god damn sexy looking, to me it screams perfection... Any time i see warpaints i just assume they're trannies or autistic (sometimes both)...
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>>416022924
you could also argue that spy is comically hard to pick up as well.
his skill floor is incredibly high, practically requiring you to master the class before he becomes useful.
however once you do reach that point he becomes one of the most useful things you have due to how he works, and becomes the third most annoying due to the tools he has. (behind sniper who is behind pyro)
the reason for this is tricking other players into believing you are real and knowing how to manipulate other players. he's the only class that actually NEEDS to go into phycological manipulation to be effective.
but before that that he's pretty much just meter fodder.
>>416022960
nta, spy. but read above for why.
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>>416022960
spy, gets countered by any player that plays for more than 30 minutes and he gets relegated to spam cloak n dagger to be useful (which is no skill involved)
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>>416022924
>If someone already knows how to play the class or has played a similar character in another game
More general than that. Sniper emphasizes raw mechanical aim, whereas Heavy is heavily focused on positioning and gamesense, Medic on management, reflecting as Pyro tests reflexes more than anything else, etc. People will be better at different things and the classes are designed to give a decent spread of that. I don't know if it's worth considering a complete neophyte to shooters or action games as a whole because that's going to be pretty rare.
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>>416023509
they only look good under certain lightning
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bad bait, KYS
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>>416023509
Some Australiums look perfect, then there's the sniper rifle that looks really fucking bad with half of the gun being wood.
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>>416023602
Eh, as aposed to Warpaints where 99.99% of it is just shit

>>416023716
Genuinely think it adds to the charm like the wrench, sort of a rustic vibe from them.

>>416023667
Alright tranny, stop projecting and do that yourself
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>>416023531
>phycological
psychological. am tired.
change da world
goodbye.
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>>416023509
I never liked golden guns in games, they do nothing for me. I like to keep things pretty plain
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>>416022924
A new player isn't going to do reasonably well with Scout or do much with Pyro, they're gonna do better with Soldier and Demo.

>>416023509
Most of them don't look good.
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>>416024136
>most of them don't look good
nawh maybe like 2-3 of them, majority look great unlike warpaints where its 99.99% (overwhelming majority)
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>>416023878
Maybe if the sniper had a more metallic looking stock i would like it more, but as it is i think it contrasts way too much with super shiny golden finish. Same goes for the golden AK 47s in COD games.
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>>416024258
No, a lot of them aren't good, brown and gold doesn't work well together.
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>>416024504
Ah, actual shit taste. Let me guess, your favorite is rainbow vomit. As apposed to simple complimenting or clean colors.

>>416024370
The whole shine for it to be good is not what attracts me to them, it's just the purity of it. Wood/Wood Grain patterns are probably the only war paints i can vouch for, but even then they're usually gauged/scratched if not factory new and rare...
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>>415927224
nice
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>>416024693
you sound autistic
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>>416024759
nah, i just think rainbow vomit and swirly garbage looks like dog shit, I would have found it interesting 15 years ago, but its just eye vomit man. Aussies are clean, fit in the game art style, and are a nice upgrade from stock skins.
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>>416007408
engineer would say A because you don't keep momentum on his own teleporters
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>>416023580
>I don't know if it's worth considering a complete neophyte to shooters or action games as a whole
It's called a child, and they exist believe it or not.
The skillsets you mention won't have enough impact on a new player so as to change how easy the classes are.
They're still going to play better as a soldier even if they have great management skills.

>>416024136
Once again I disagree.
Scout and pyro only require the most basic of shooter skills (how to move and shoot).
With soldier, a new player is going to have to aim at the ground and time the rockets, which isn't the most conventional
Genuinely don't understand how you think demoman fits on this list. It takes a while until you can aim pipes, and stickies are all kinds of complicated with timing and amount and whatnot.
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>>416024693
>you don't like something that doesn't look too good, so you must love things that look absolutely hideous and eye-searing!
No.
Every normal weapon looks better than their Australium variant, and the ones that have weapons skins have one that looks better than the Australium (like the Barn Burner Flame Thrower or the Team Sprayer SMG, for example).

>>416025052
You need to learn how to move well with Scout, simply knowing that WASD makes you move and that M1 makes you shoot is not enough to do reasonably well with Scout. For Pyro, as much as people complain about it, W+M1 isn't very effective. Maybe he'll catch a Spy or a shit Medic, but that's about it.
While with the explosive classes, you miss and you still hit, and you don't have to be good to spam. To actually aim pipes and be the most effective as Demo takes time, but a new player is still going to be somewhat effective, unlike Scout.
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>reflecting as pyro tests reflexes more than anything else
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Anyone else find it weird that the stock shotgun was skipped over for an aussie variant for the frontier justice?
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>>416018198
airblast is a fun and in-depth mechanic, aside from that i just like his gameplay, having to be clever with ambushed/flanks to get in range- although your right, it's a thankless job, the class definitely needs a buff of somekind
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>>416010805
yes they should make it pay to play again.
anyone post June 24, 2011 has to cough up like 20 bux (10 on sale) to get in.
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>>416028664
haven't you noticed that pan is the only multi-class aussie in the game?
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>>416029508
the pan's not an aussie, it's a golden pan
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>>416029547
>The Golden Frying Pan is a melee weapon for all classes. It is a Frying Pan plated with or made of pure Australium.
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>>416029803
if it was an australium then it'd be called Australium Pan, no? why does this "australium" pan have golden statue effect but the rest of the australiums dont?
yeah
thought so
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>>416029895
>why does this "australium" pan have golden statue effect but the rest of the australiums dont?
Saxxy and golden wrench have statue effect
And golden wrench was confirmed to be aussie in https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4151
This means that "golden" in context of TF2 is the same as "aussie"
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>>416029895
It's a Golden Frying Pan plated with Australium.
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>>416030132
nerd
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>>416030226
I see a lack of an actual argument
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>>416030342
>he thinks I need an argument
nerd!
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arguments are a crutch
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nothing is a crutch compared to scorch shit
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>>416005094
6 million
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>>416029508
Yeah but with every other class getting at least their stock as an aussie its still weird that the shotgun was skipped even if valve wanted to make the pan the only multiclass aussie.
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>>416031849
>every other class getting at least their stock as an aussie
engie has an aussie wrench
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loose cannon is my favorite weapon in the game
no i don't care how much it sucks when some nerd has too much free time to hyper analyze a video game instead of getting his dick sucked i will keep using it
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Charging poor people $$$ to have imaginary gold in a video game so they can pretend to be rich is the funniest vidya scam yet. How many rich people do you see walking around with golden apparel? Only pimps and african warlords do that. Because it's not aesthetic at all unless you're an ape
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Playing southern hospitality engi is unironically playing tf2 on hard mode but I love every single whack hurting a little bit extra
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>>416036350
i wish i could time my donks on it better
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>>416037021
Show us your garbage clip art stranges then
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>>416026267
>every normal weapon looks better than there-
No, and Yes. Defaults are always gonna look good; but aussies look great in their own sense too.

Again, the argument isnt stocks look bad. I just think Aussies are better looking than any warpaint
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>>416040004
Are the tf2 babies models from meet the pyro in the leak?
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>>416040732
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>>416040732
That gold really doesn't look the best with the brown, that's the thing. Yes, a lot of war paints look worse than it, but not all.
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Only Aussie i use is the black box that i got after selling my aussie stock RL
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>>416040895
>>416041492
These and the high roller's are the only arguably good looking Warpaints, the thing is at that point they should have just made more variations and labeled them as an alternative to aussies. Warpaints just leave much to be desired, this is without mentioning wear levels.
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>>416003459
The day that skins dropped I wished I could own this exact rocket launcher. I would prefer energy orb, though.
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>>416041492
why do you spergs shill this fucking fingerprint skin so hard
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>>416043097
dunno bro, that sand cannon has wear and blood on it, you sure?
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>>416043527
I'd personally would like it if it didn't have that pattern and more of a traditional wave damascus pattern. But if i had to bet it's because its the only one that looks close to stock so people can say it's not egregious as far as warpaints go.
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>>416043658
I think it goes without saying that the wear isn't the part I want.
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>>416043527
look good
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>>416037021
I genuinely just like the look of the metal man, some metals have some nice aesthetic appeal to them. If it being a status symbol is how you take it, then cheers.

Cobalt, for example.
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I wish there were more specialty skins. By that I mean stuff like the dragon slayer where they are like old style skins with unique texture maps per weapon (and no wear!). If they added a one time skin collection with some of the workshop stuff that would be cool. If not that then they could just make some new contracts and slap workshop stuff on it as rewards.
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>>416044372
I think one of the issues with this is that people who make workshop skins make them to be added to the game via a case that gives them a cut
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Still no other shooter as good as TF2
I hope Neon Prime is good
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>>416037021
you see it occasionally. But how often do you see rich people walking around with neon clothing with lighting and swirling effects? That's shit you only see at a carnival
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>>416045392
neon prime will have a development time of 2-3 years, it will be absolute garbage
how can a game be good if it doesnt have the dev time of TF2?
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>>416045878
most of tf2's dev time was wasted on brotherhood of arms and invasion
iirc our iteration of TF2 was made in 2-4 years
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>>416007408
>/tf2g/ is literally retarded
i shouldn't be surprised but I still am.
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>>416046287
Yeah its kinda crazy how much tf2 had changed from its first showing at e3 to the iconic trailer we got in 2006.
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>>416018198
literally that. it's a no brain class that it's easy to play and do well in without using too much mental effort. literally just walk in range of enemies and spam m2 near demos and soldiers to deny their damage and send it back with extra 35% damage.
I've noticed that whenever I'm tired and bored I just default to pyro because it's a really braindead class with decent health and mobility.
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If Valve had a vision they usually churn something out fast. Valve is autistic like that
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>>416007408
Retard it's A and will always be A.
Portals don't impose motion upon an object, only the object does upon itself.
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>check tcrf wiki for stuff found in leaked map sources
>pic fucking rel
WHY THIS ISN'T PART OF THE ACTUAL MAP?
WHY THE DECIDED TO LEAVE THIS SHIT IN THE GAME?
FUCKING VALVE
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>>416018198
I don't main pyro, but I can get why people play him. Airblast is fun to use, especially if you pointblank airblast people or something like that. A lot of strats in tf2 may not be "viable" but who the fuck cares as long as you're having fun? Not everyone wants to do what's optimal and will do the fun stuff like combos instead of scorch spam. Pyro is fun in part BECAUSE you make people hate playing, if there's a faggot spy main trying to trickstab you just airblast the retard into a wall until he cries. If there's le demoknight tf2 just airblast him away and spam flares at him. Pyro is a sadistic class and that's intentional, being an asshole is fun and you should know that. Even if you don't care to be an ass you can have fun being a hybrid of offense, support, and defense. Pyro is not as linear as some other classes and can have a good amount of gameplay variety.
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lmao retards going on about comp tf2 like getting good at this game of all fucking games is going to put bread on the table and let them live the neo american dream of being paid to play video games
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>>416000609
Depends if I'm using Stock or Cow Mangler. If it's stock, I'm running the Battalions Backup. If its the Cow Mangler, I run it with the Conch so I can play the game solo without needing a medic or trannyneer.
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>>416000609
Gunboats if the map is big/tall.
I don't usually use stock, mainly only reserve shooter when using liberty launcher. Bison is rarely used but when it is it's always the full gordbort set
Mantreads are never used outside of trolldier, because it's basically an empty item slot without rocket jumper.
When using banner it's most of the time battalion's, occasionally buff but never conch.
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>>416047373
They knew exactly what they were doing when they removed it, they want Sniper to be used as is.
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>>416009525
They were working on an assault cannon for heavy but we know almost nothing about it.
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>>416018198
Because it's the only class that requires real multi-tasking. When I see a Scout, I try to airblast him into a corner. When I see a Soldier, I reflect his rockets. When I see another Pyro, I go for a flarepunch, I extinguish my teammates, and I push him away. What's a fucking Soldier doing? Click on feet. Click on feet. Click on feet. A Demo? Click in front of person. Click in front of person. Click in front of person. These two are the worst but the other classes aren't much better.

No other class has you constantly macromanaging between shooting flares, reflecting spam, spychecking, extinguishing teammates, and attacking with your flamethrower. When you get good with Pyro, the other classes start to feel empty, like you're doing less things than you should be doing.
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>>416011145
Your epic pyro hit and run playstyle doesn't work in practice against players who aren't fresh installs and this is because the flamethrower's damage output has been dogshit since blue moon.
If you want aoe damage then play Demoman.
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>>416047373
>expecting good map design choices from ctf
cmon son
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https://old.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/10kh8vs/friend_just_bought_double_spell_poison_shadow/
what's the most you have spent on one thing in tf2 anon?
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>reddit
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>>416060180
>between shooting flares, reflecting spam, spychecking, extinguishing teammates, and attacking with your flamethrower.
medic knocked
pyro "main" here btw, soldierfags deserve the heat but don't go too hard on demo, he's what soldier should've been
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>lenny bind
>ban
>random crit complaint bind
>ban
>has over 150h as spy and has 1500+ kills on a kunai
>kunai is automatically replaced with the yer
>has over 150h as sniper
>any rifle is automatically replaced with the huntsman
>pronouns in name/steam profile
>permanent marked-for-death effect
>insufferable right-winger
>redirected to uncletopia barnblitz
>furry/brony
>bricks pc
>comp player
>class locked to engineer
>over 150h on pyro
>anything other than stock is disabled, airblast removed
>demoknight
>any damage received gives slow effect
>taunts after killing me
>injects pc with terabytes of child pron and sends address to authorities
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>>416068458
fucking demoknight shitters
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sold my strange original after 8500 kills and realizing I like stock better
now I have a more keys than ever before

what should I buy
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>>416071220
strange FN skin for Gentlemanne's collection
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>>416071426
im not falling for you meme, trader
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>>416047373
*jumps on top of it getting even bigger sightline*
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>>416071220
australium rocket launcher?
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>>416072362
gold weapons are too gaudy and most of them dont even look good, if I played heavy I would get the minigun

looking through RL skins but it's so hard to decide when you can't preview them from in-game pov
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>>416009525
I will never forgive e-celebs for convincing the tf2 hivemind that pyro needed an entire update, a class based update, the final class based update, to fix fucking flame thrower bugs.
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>OMG this comp player is a fucking god, holy shit he's so good
>check their inventory
>only participation medals
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>>416074691
blame valve for holding flamethrower bugfixes hostage
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>>416074704
comp is a ultra team game, even if your team has great DM they would still get stomped by a team that knows the game flow of 6s and can play together
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>>416074704
6s doesn't share a skill pool with normal TF2. It's an entirely fanfic meta.
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>>416013080
it's Infamous 2 achievement stats all over again
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>>416074916
>>416076084
participation medal cope and/or peak dunning kruger effect
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>>416074618
The fact that you can load Fempyro over the default model
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KYS coomer
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kiss coomer
mwah
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>>416080917
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>naming files
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>posting greentext
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>>416078801
dunning kruger is thinking you're good at tf2 because you're good at a fanfic meta lol
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>>416082513
You can't even get out of open
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>>416082573
I get out of "open" faster than you lol
my secret? I ate a steak sandvich and put on my gloves of running urgently while my base jumper soldier whipped me to the front under the cover of my vaccinator medic
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>>416081896
>anon looking for image "13130494091141.jpg" in a folder full of images 120240950909 through 1649102940912
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>>416082573
Neither have you.
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>>415996405
just press q dude
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>>416082573
you will never be a woman
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>>416082802
CRINGE
>>416083419
I'm in invite retard
>>416084083
no you
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>/tf2g/ 2014: let's play comp it's fun, maybe we can warm up on a community server first
>/tf2g/ now: comp BAD community servers BAD
what happened?
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>>416083179
hydrus, newfriend
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>>416085396
kill yourself
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>>416085396
>invite
that's open in 2014
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>>416086327
Frag zone and its consequences have been a disaster for this general
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>>416086327
everyone realized competitive tf2 is a meme.
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>>416086327
Compfags ruined the game.
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>>416090226
no I did
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>>416086330
I've been here for 15 years and I've never heard of this before
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>>416088587
This.
/tf2g/ used to be so happy before that server drama happened and has never recovered
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>>416086327
comp was just a fun thing before it started infecting vanilla tf2 and literally killing the core game.
community servers used to be good before they all became uncletopia 24/7 upward.

tf2g has no changed, tf2 has, and for the worse. We're rightfully grumpy about it
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>>416018198
Haha airblast go pwoosh
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>>416047373
That sniper spot is already a death trap if a soldier sees you.
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manmelter+backburner+neon annihilator is my favorite pyro loadout even though i seldomly play on maps with water, just enjoy having that extra bit of utility incase a sniper or scout soaks someone
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>>416065697
this reminds me someone's selling a spellbound crones for 120,000 keys lmao
that dude is a retard for buying it but the guy selling it is the smartest he'll ever be
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>>416100546
>neon annihilator
why
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>>416090559
https://github.com/hydrusnetwork/hydrus
you're welcome
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>>416102127
nta but i've been meaning to get this set up for years now. how retard proof is it/how painstaking is the process? any recommended guides i should know about?
also i am heavy weapons guy
and THIS
is my metadata sorting software
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>>416102127
same boat as >>416102950
The only thing stopping me from using it is there wasn't an easy
>just drag your folders in and it will auto-tag based on every folder-subfolder name attached
button clearly listed. Last I tried it only read the final folder
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tf2 ragdolls need crumple points in the mid section of the torso
I want to see spines snap in half
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>>416072868
Strange hot factory new warhawk rocket launcher
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>>416074916
>flow of 6s
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>>416042197
im honestly sad that the tradejews are racking up the prices on the gentlemanne's collection. literally the only good decorated weapons in the game.
if i could texture i would literally create an entire high roller set
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>>416009525
>mfw top banana never ever
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>>416090652
It was not inherently the Frag Zone's fault. /tf2g/ has been playing together for years before the Frag Zone. If it wasn't the Frag Zone it would've been another server.

The issue is the same issue that affects every general: dedicated shitposters arriving who decide it's their life's purpose to weaponize their autism against a particular topic. In this case it was a mentally ill vtuber worshipper and a DBZ fanboy shitposter who both got banned from the Frag Zone for either hacking or being a general hated nuisance (or both) and threw a tantrum. A typical "if I can't have it, no one can" situation. So they shitposted and shitposted that bad things will happen (the list!!) if you play on it until they got their wish of everyone being so sick of it that no one wanted to play on it.

You might say "well it's their fault for banning them then." Then the server would've died anyway from people being sick of dealing with the both of them shitting up the server. A real lose/lose situation when autism of that caliber is involved.
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>>416110998
in the spic's defense the list is probably the best joke to come out of tf2g in a while
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>>416111153
It would be more funny if it didn't lead to everyone being too afraid to play with each other anymore. It's kind of nuts how paranoid people got about it.
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>>416111476
it makes me giggle just thinking about it in retrospective, but yeah it has some pretty horrible effects
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what exactly was the consequence of being added to the list? someone samefags about you being bad at the game? who cares lol
*smug crackling*
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>>416088587
>>416090652
I have literally never heard of the f(r)ag zone, what was it about? How can it be worse than the server drama going on the past month?
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>>416072868
>looking through RL skins but it's so hard to decide when you can't preview them from in-game pov
go to any skial server and type "!items"
it allows you to preview skins and war paints
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>>416077798
wdym?
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>>416114605
They would post the list in the thread. It was just a list of Steam names that were gathered from raffles, screenshots, playing with anons, or otherwise. Usually it would be immediately deleted for being a long spam post. Not much of a consequence but it seemed to work somehow.

>>416114734
/tf2g/ had the innocent idea of hosting their own server, since people otherwise had to try and coordinate joining random servers in the thread and hope enough people joined. It was mostly vanilla with weapon reverts, and for a while it was 24/24. Until this happened
>>416110998
Surprisingly Fragmin's still hosting it, but no one's been able to get it going again.
>How can it be worse than the server drama going on the past month?
It wasn't. It was on a much smaller scale.
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did hiroshimoot broke something or I just can't post pics?
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Going from TF2C back to TF2 is painful
Dead Ringer niggers
Shield charging niggers
Trolldier niggers
Vaccinator niggers

So many annoying things in modern TF2
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>>416119702
literally just git gud retard
except for vacc niggers they need to be culled
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Zesty status? I've been gone a while. Last I was here he was the topic of every third post or so. This IS still the eceleb worship general, right?
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>>416119942
aar killed himself
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>>416120085
one shitty diaper too many?
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>>416116381
It was pretty annoying when it was being spammed; one of my friends who occasionally visited these threads told me to not make friends with anyone here because they would turn me into a "tranny shitposter". He later friended one of the people doing the shitposting and had no response when I called him out for the hypocrisy.
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>>416120085
big pack of soiled baby diapers if true
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What sufficiently wacky hats does Sniper have besides the Fruit Shoot?
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>>416119591
happens to me too sometimes really glad i've seen someone else posting about it lol

i can post images in the morning but sometimes later in the day it says "post successful" but no post shows up if i add an image
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skill issue
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXj5m6SYFn4
tagg is best comp player
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you are cringe if you use the natascha
but i am based if i use the natascha
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>>416122741
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I play TF2 for the teamwork. It's cool what you can do when you work together.
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>>416018198
Dragon's Fury + Detonator + Powerjack
That's it
t. Pyro is my most played and I only ever use this loadout because flamethrowers are braindead
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>>416086327
MyM, which inexplicably caused the newfag factor in TF2 threads to increase exponentially.
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>>416018198
Using combos and reflects to style on shitter soldier mains and watching them cry in chat, because they're all apes that can't learn to pull out a shotgun or play mind games with rockets.

I've put a description tag on my flame thrower saying "Use your shotgun", and gibus soldiers actually do adapt and catch me out. They kill me much more often than the 3000+ hours 6s Iron roamer mains who act like airblast completely shuts down their class because they have to think a little now.

You could play any other class and get better, and more consistent results. But Pyro isn't about that. It's about being the underdog and using your tools creatively to pull a win from a situation. You can also be the support Pyro and just help keep your teammates safe, but offensive flank Pyro is usually more fun.
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>>416132270
>They kill me much more often than the 3000+ hours 6s Iron roamer mains who act like airblast completely shuts down their class because they have to think a little now.
The 3000+ hours 6s roamer main doesn't equip a shotgun so a good airblast does pretty much shut him down

Not that shutting down soldierfags is a bad thing
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>>416074691
>implying
Pyro actually functioned as a combat class from jungle inferno til blue moon.
Something else to keep in mind was that at the time, we were under the impression that a followup heavy update was plausible; fix pyro first then heavy afterward was the general consensus. We simply didn't know just how badly Valve would drop TF2 after the pyro update.
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>>416122741
plenty of choices from the halloween hat pile!
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>>416132667
HOOT! HOOT!
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>>416023509
Aussies are actually designed weapon models, most war paints are just wallpapers that get applied to weapons and as a result, they look like shit.

The only exceptions are Decorated weapons, which have a lot of stinkers but are at least designed to the weapon they're on, and Dragon Slayer because it was too designed for each weapon it's available on.
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>"Heavy is boring to play!"
>Check their loadout
>Tomislav, Sandvich, Gru (only used on rollout)
Shotgun chads,
How do we fix the Jewtuber brainwashing that you can only play Heavy with the most boring meta load out possible?
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>>416133351
teach people about the KGB+panic attack+tomislav loadout
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>>416074691
as this anon said >>416132378
we were lead on by valve suggesting we would get both. (even the fucking promo comic said "one at a time, you'll get yours eventually") and valve acknowledging that both classes were in a need of a overhaul.
everybody picked pyro because "hey, hey's annoying and not viable for his intended playstyle. a pyro update should fix that!" meanwhile heavy is serviceable with some help.
now he's even more annoying and even less viable, with the things that made heavy tolerable (GRU & other melee i forgot the name of) being fucked into the ground.
what happened is the EXACT OPPOSITE of community expectations. if we could see the future everyone would have picked heavy.
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>>416133507
fits of steel works better than KGB, because people actually engage you in melee, then you just pull out your shotgun and shoot them in the face. sometimes they get mad
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>>416000609
>younger me used to revel in unlocks
>ran gunboats on community maps
>ran banners on vanilla maps
>would hardly touch stock even if it was optimal, lived for the gimmick
>stop playing around gun metal
>return to the game recently
>Now I am old, bitter, and refuse to unequip the shotgun from any class that can have it.
I became the stock purist I used to hate.
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>>416133742
No, he's using the KGB crit gimmick with the Panick Attack's faster swap speed.
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*drinks a coffee*
*queues turbine*
gaming time
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>>416133684
>everybody picked pyro because
the community is full of faggots and retarded children
not because of any thoughts about gameplay
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>>416133684
another thing to mention, balancing pyro is a tricky situation.
he inherently requires very little aim, and yet he is a high damage low range offense class.
if you make his flamethrower too strong you get the old w+m1 situation where the pyro can just mow down enemies on enclosed maps with little to no thought. if you make it too weak you have the current situation where he needs to rely on annoying gimmicks and glitches.
my opinion is that valve should have gone in a completely different direction.
- give pyro a little bit more mobility at base. make him a little faster and perhaps airblasting while jumping can have some self knockback. sorta like how the beggars overload blasts work but not as strong.
- fine tune the flamethrower's damage so that its bad for pushing forward itself but can punish people who overextend very easily.
- give all flamethrowers back minicrits, minicritting should consume ammo 1.5 times faster. makes it so flanking is also a viable option.
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>>416134692
>give all flamethrowers back minicrits, minicritting should consume ammo 1.5 times faster. makes it so flanking is also a viable option.
i hate when people come up with these whacky balancing ideas.
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pyro should stay a joke class for retards and perverts he doesn't need to be balanced
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>>416134790
>dood is that something that makes pyro more than a flarespam bot?
>its so whacky dood!
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>>416000609
shotgun is the coolest one so that
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>>416000609
shotgun of course
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>>416134596
>the community is full of faggots and retarded children
then whether or not the ecelebs weighed in wouldn't have made a difference either way, logically speaking
the fact that the ecelebs voted pyro for discussed-at-length gameplay reasons seems to escape you, but dont let facts get in the way of your daily impotent bitching quota
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>>416135123
nigger
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>>416134808
correct and based.
>>416134942
it's going to do nothing to actually change how 99% of pyros play. to me this just a change for change's sake to shoehorn pyro into a very specific style of play.

this class is irredeemable. the flamethrowers will always take little skill to use because they're flamethrowers and they will always have to do a lot of damage at close range to make up for the shit range.
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Pyro doesn't need balancing. There's always a couple of pyros on each team every match. Pyro is a very popular class.
Shitters will always play this class because it has 175 hp, 100% running speed and a primary that takes no brain power to use effectively.

Heavy on the other hand can be a real pain to play if your team doesn't have a medic and requires a lot more game sense to properly ambush enemies and make use of the minigun
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sometimes I'll see a heavy player topscore without a medic on his team, wipe the floor everyone and I'm like this guy is so cool
far more impressive than doing the same with soldier/sniper
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>>416135749
>a primary that takes no brain power to use effectively on other shitters
fixd
Pyro should be allowed to stand toe to toe with other combat classes at least semi-consistently.
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>pyro should be able to mow down a heavy from 100 to 0 before heavy can kill him
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The best way to balance Pyro is to have M1-ing be useful for supporting teammates and spy checking, and have combos be the more skillful burst damage option for DMing and flanking.

The current balance just has the flames last longer the more you M1 which just promotes M1-ing all the time. I'd prefer if the flames dealt more damage and became more visually distracting the more you tracked the enemy. Keep full length after-burn but if you just get brushed by one flame the damage and visual noise are at a minimum, this enables combo Pyros and encourages people to use that play-style, while still keeping M1 as a good support/Spy-checking/ambushing tool.

I know that's a lot of writing for a discussion ran by publord sweats who just don't want noob friendly things in TF2 despite every class being noob friendly in some way being the reason why TF2 is still played, but that's just what I think.
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>>416134021
The sad truth is that a lot of unlocks in TF2 are really boring and unimaginative.
>oh this weapon does -20% something and allows you to do 15% something else
I think there's less than 10 original unlocks in this entire game, and coincidentally most of them are the original achievement items. Stuff like the flare gun, sandvich, gunboats, eyelander and charging targe, huntsman, kritzkrieg, gunslinger, buff banner.

Everything else is usually just a derivative of stock or of the original unlocks.
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>>416136385
Pyro is the most noob friendly class in the game. The JI flame particles already are cancerous and visually noisy.
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>>416136485
You cant exactly do much with the restriction that stock weapons always have to be the best since they are weapons everyone will always have
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>>416135842
I've seen good heavy players that are basically unstoppable because somehow all their bullets hit
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>>416136708
Yeah but that's not the problem. Those unlocks even if they're situational and sometimes worse, they really change the way that weapon slot is used.
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>>416136612
I'd argue otherwise. The short range really caps what a new player can really accomplish. Pyro is good against bad players, but anyone even semi experienced is going to at least try and exploit Pyro's range.

Spy nets you instakills just by being behind enemy players, which isn't too hard if you use the invisibility cloak.
Soldier's rockets have forgive splash rockets which help reduce the punishment for missing.
Medic literally just has to click on a good player and stand behind them to ascend the scoreboard.
Engineer can just turtle behind a level three sentry and net a few kills without really doing anything.
Sniper has effectively unlimited shots at a instakill if they play like a sniper and hang back behind their team.
Heavy can also WM1 and with a bigger health pool and range it's way more effective.

Demoman is really the only class I'd say isn't noob friendly because pipes and stickies both require some cognitive adjustment to use them effective, and even them you can sticky spam once you're decent with the stickiebomb launcher.
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Soldier is the most noob friendly class in the game.
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>>416119942
he's doing a q&a later today on an open discord where anyone can come in and ask questions. it's gonna be a shitshow.
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>>416137558
>criticism of pyro
>"UHHHHHHHH BUT WHAT ABOUT SOLDIER?!?!" guaranteed at some point within the next 50 poths
and you wonder why people associate you with a seething pyro main
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>>416137648
If I am able to post my hate of Soldier in some way, I will.
Taking criticism of a class and making it about Soldier is one way, and it so happens that Pyro gets a lot of criticism that is can easily be used to criticize Soldier.
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The issue with soldier is that he's the easiest class in the game but also has a super high skill ceiling, so a lot of soldier mains with they're hotshit and anything that kills them consistently is overpowered and needs nerfing because they're so skilled.

It's apparent when you bring up the fact the Soldier is the easiest class in the game because they always get super but-hurt about it. Nothing wrong with being a low skill floor Soldierbros.
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>>416137821
i will never understand why shitters hate soldier, the class that resembles the purest form of quake style combat in the game. do i have to remind you that pyro was added so that poors with poor internet could play team fortress too?
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>i've reset mine since i've started playing
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>>416119591
>>416124882
same problem
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Do solider mains actually think Quake is just rocket launchers and nothing else or is this a bit I'm not in on?
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>>416138240
it's rocket launchers, shotguns and grenade launchers , you're right :)
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>>416138078
its closer to this.
>discussion about pyro happening
>"BUH BUH BUH SOLDIER IS LE LOW SKILL TOO"
>"dude shut up. we know"
>"OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDD STOP BEING BUTHURT SOLDIERFAG"
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>>416138393
Exhibit A
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>>416138083
Don't mistake my Soldier hate as me defending Pyro. If I want to defend Pyro, then I'll talk about Pyro.
Soldier is literally THE beginner class of the game, zero thought or skill is need to play effectively.
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>>416138678
>Don't mistake my Soldier hate as me defending Pyro
why is it that the ONLY time shit like this >>416138078 >>416137558 pops up is when discussion of pyro is happening?
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>>416138789
Only the second post is mine.
Pyro always gets posts calling him too easy, which is why they also apply to Soldier. The other classes don't get hate posts often, and when they do those don't usually apply to Soldier.
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>>416139328
personally i think much easier to juke enemy rockets as any class
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>>416139438
It's a fucking giant AoE, what the do you mean? Unless he's far away enough, where he is not in proper combat range, he's going to click the floor and you're taking damage.
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>>416139328
the difference is that soldier isnt metal-scratching-plate tier annoying to fight against. so people are far less annoyed by him even if he is as easy as pyro.
yeah he can juggle you but thats about it.
pyro on the other hand has annoying gimmicks out the ass that make fighting him infinitely more annoying to fight.
>you are out of my range? sorry, flare
>you have projectiles or are using melee? sorry, airblast
>you killed me with 60hp left? sorry, afterburn
>you just killed my engineer and sapped his buildings? sorry, homewreaker
>you just popped uber? sorry, airblast again
>you jumped into water to extinguish my flames? sorry, neon
>you are playing medic? sorry, direct upgrade to stock
>you are near a ledge or map hazard? sorry, airblast yet again
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pyro players are retarded with the airblast too, so many of them literally button mash and end up pushing you away from their flame back to safety
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>>416139856
in fact, that can pretty much summarize my hate for pyro.
no matter how well you play against him he always has a "nuh uh uh, sorry bub" card he can play to make you suffer a little more at little to no risk or drawback to him.
meanwhile when it comes to soldier you can pretty easily get away from him if you know what you are doing and his only option is to rocket jump. which causes him to take damage (ontop of what he took from the encounter before you ran) putting you at the advantage.
or you can get up close and personal and force him to use his shotgun, which lowers his damage output (ontop of increasing yours in most cases where its a good idea to run up to him) and if he is using a banner he wont have the shotgun further forcing him to melee.
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>>416140535
Diagnosis: skill issue
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>>416139856
If you my thoughts about Pyro, sure.
>flares
Perfectly fine, they are weaker than the Shotgun and are fun to use, while being easy to avoid.
>airblast
Great, lets you extinguish teammates and is something that can somewhat counter projectile spam. Also good to protect himself from melee, which is really strong.
>afterburn
That's his one thing, instead of big damage he has damage over time that can easily be removed.
>homewreaker
This is bullshit, Spy already gets stomped by Pyro, having him remove his sappers is just fucking stupid.
>uber
Stock Uber makes you invulnerable, not invincible, and that is a good thing. Just kill the Pyro first.
>neon
Yeah, that's also annoying.
>third degree
It is almost never used, if the Medic isn't a braindead bitch stuck up the other person's ass, then he can react and break the beam.
>map hazards
I don't like map hazards, maps with them are shit, but Pyro isn't the only thing that can knock you off.

I like to play with very suboptimal playstyles, and Pyro usually isn't a trouble to me ever. Soldier, however, is a fucking cunt to fight against. He gets to shoot the floor and kill me in 2-3 shots while I have to aim? Yeah, that's great, yep. Even when I'm going around meleeing people, Soldier is more annoying than Pyro.
Plus, Soldier gets so many bullshit items that makes him stronger, like the Gunboats.
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>>416141338
Careful mate. The gunboats are the sacred cow of soldier mains.
It's like what pre-nerf Ambi & deadringer was to spy mains.
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>>416141338
gunboats allow you to rocket jump more in exchange for the lack of your secondary, forcing you to take self damage at close range (the shotgun's effective range), its a fair tradeoff.
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>>416141704
What balances rocket jumping is that you take damage, the Gunboats makes it so that it deals way less damage at the cost of your stinky aim gun (not a downside).
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>>416141843
>the ability to not take self damage at close range isnt a downside
lol
lmao
average pyro main, everyone.
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>>416141987
Just don't shoot yourself, retard.
average soldierfag, everyone.
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>>416142185
>scout in your face
>pyro closing in and airblasting all your rockets
>spy that you just heard the decloak of right behind you
>"just dont shoot yourself"
wouldnt expect a pyrofag to understand.
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>>416142246
>1v3
>"I am at a disadvantage Robin Walker save me!!!"
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>>416142326
it wasnt implied that all of that was happening at once, they are supposed to be separate scenarios.
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>>416142246
Good thing you kill Scouts and Spies in one rocket, then can rocket jump away to the medkit across the map.
>complains about Pyro
Yep, usual retarded soldierfag that can't time his rockets right and just spams rockets at anyone of the opposite team.
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>>416142463
who implied that the direct hit was being used? you cant one shot scout and spies without it, and even then you need to aim your rockets for full damage so the "no skill soldier main lol" argument doesnt work there.
typical pyrofag.
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>>416142702
Oh no, the Scout/Spy in my face was actually at full health and didn't take any chip damage beforehand, so I had to click M1 twice to kill them! Well, time to rocket jump across the map and then back to reach the medkit right next to me!
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>See relfecting pyro main
>Is a banner soldier
>Quickly flick to the side and shoot a rocket
>Pyro tries to system one and air-blasts nothing
>Pyro switches to using system two airblasts
>Fire unpredictably and kill the pyro
Guys it isn't hard.
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>>416142913
>everybody that plays pyro is just as retarded as me!
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>>416142913
what
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>>416142913
Conscious? Effort?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NERF PYRO NERF PYRO NERF PYRO
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>>416143127
he thinks that missing a single rocket will make the average player as retarded as him.
kinda disappointing when you think about it.
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>>416143127
Most Pyro's are used to Soldier who wildly slab M1 at the first thing that moves. Over time good Pyro's have built up a muscle memory to airblast at the first indication of an incoming rocket since that's the best way to airblast up close.

You can abuse this by purposely baiting out airblasts to confuse the Pyro and force them to try and consciously reflect rockets up close, which is a lot harder and more of a fun kind of engagement imo.

>>416143471
>"AHHHHHH! I don't want to think Robin Walker help meeeeee!!!"
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>>416143750
except i do stagger my rockets, dipshit.
but the pyro never falls for it. stop trying to defend a class you know nothing about.
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>>416143980
Sounds like a skill issue, shitdip.
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>>416144040
well we all know you have a retardation issue, not quite the one to talk.
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>>416144263
Actually I have over one million PHDs in TF2ology so eat my ass.
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The only fix the pyro ever fucking needed was movement animations for when he's shooting the flame thrower and when he stops. As a soldier you could be firing at a pyro who is visibly shooting flame from your perspective but he actually stopped, and while you can still see residual particles come out and hear the flame thrower hiss, the pyro is ALREADY able to airblast afterwards. In fact the pyro can interrupt his flaming despite holding down m1 by hitting m2 since airblast has a priority override. It's fucking stupid. Literally every other class moves their gun in some way, subtle or not, as they fire. But not our pyro. Couldn't be our precious little pyro being an unfinished class since day one! Majority of the reaaon why his shit works is because there is poor telegraphing. Cant believe I am always the only one with this complaint. I even play him, I know how bullshit it is.
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>encounter a wild pyro
>soon as he sees me, he full stop ceases m1ing and keeps a mild distance while watching me like an aim bot, doesn't even try to weave any shots from his secondary in, just waits for his unga bunga
>friendly spy stabs him
>runs up to me and we hit a high five
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>>416144380
well i have two million, retardation issue.
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>>416144586
I love baiting for Spies.
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>>416144586
Is this why spy players lately hover around soldiers like remoras?
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>>416144627
Ah sorry I had a typo. I meant to say 1 morethanyouillion PHDs. Sorry.
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>>416144586
its funny how this always happens, its like pyro players can only think of one action at a time.
>see... soldier. me m2!
>see... spy. me m1!
>see... point. me spam flare!
>see... sniper. me spam flare!
>see... heavy. me w+m1!
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settle it in an MGE you two lovebirds
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hudda hudda
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>>416144936
>tfw homewrecker pyros perfectly setting themselves up for stabs because they never bother to fan the immediate area first
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Alright here's my steam ID steamcommunity.com/id/b4nny
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It's like Soldier players can only think of one action.
>see feet, me click M1
Oh wait, that's the only thing they can do!
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https://youtu.be/9v2SlLIS9eU
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>>416145091
same with neon pyros too
>jump in water after me
>kill them with my ranged weapons
>they dont pull out their secondary at all
>>416145140
>OTHER CLASS!!!!
i accept your concession, seething pyro main.
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>i-if you complain about our holy savior, the class that takes the most skill and requires 72 PhDs to master, Soldier, then you are a Pyro main!!!!!
Okay retard.
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>>416145140
>landing direct hits (requires you to aim and lead projectiles
>rocket jumping (takes practice to be useful)
>juggling (more complex than just aiming at feet
>all of which are regularly chained together to increase soldier's efficiency
vs
>pyro's no aim single action spam techniques that cant be chained together.
just admit you cant airblast rockets and stop humiliating yourself.
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>>416145725
>im not a seething pyro main bro
>i only complain about soldier when pyro discussion is going on
>but i promise im not a seething pyro main bro i promise.
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>>416145995
>shoot floor instead
>shoot floor under you
>shoot floor instead
vs
>second worst class that has to get good so that he can even be effective
Hmm, curious!
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>>416146086
I only complain about Soldier by taking someone's post and changing it to be about Soldier instead; and what a surprise, you fucking mouth breathing retards only complain about Pyro and do it often too.
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all of you pale in comparison to me landing fat pipes on you pop pop pop
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now this might seem harsh for something that is just a video game but i really do hope cheaters get raped in hell by satan for all of eternity
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now this might seem harsh for something that is just a video game but i really do hope soldierfags get raped in hell by satan for all of eternity
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>>416146338
>>416139856
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v2SlLIS9eU
fuck niggers and fuck soldiers
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>>416146498
>>416141338
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>>416146542
i just posted that like 20 minutes ago, bro
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>>416146595
>flares
"bro its weaker. ignore the fact that it completely breaks my balance by giving me infinite range!"
>airblast
"melee is like, totally strong bro. NOOOOOOOO DONT BRING UP DAMAGE NUMBERS!!!"
>afterburn
"annoying mechanic... IS LE GOOD!"
>uber
"just kill the pyro before he pops out of the corner and airblasts you back so that the fat man has to waddle his way back and waste the entire uber"
>third degree
"direct upgrade... IS LE GOOD!"
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>>416146750
Didn't see it. Great minds etc
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>>416146914
>Great minds etc
and fools rarely differ
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Is tf2 cursed?
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>>416146820
>I can't dodge flares!!!
Okay, and? They're still not great.
>melee is weak
If that's the case, then why do it?
>annoying mechanic, remove it!!!
I agree, we should remove Soldier because he's annoying.
>just kill the Pyro
Yes, I'm glad we agree.
>direct upgrade that no one uses because Pyro has way better melee option is OP!!!
lol
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>>>416146914(You)
>>Great minds etc
>and fools rarely differ
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>pyro nigger is also a wojack nigger
the truth revealed.
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There seems to be a few "Sacred Cow" unlocks which is arguably bad for the idea that stock should be the best in slot but gets defended for being fun to use.

>Soldier
>Gunboats

>Pyro
>Pre-nerf axtinguisher

>Medic
>Crusader's Crossbow

>Spy
>Kunai
>Pre-nerf ambi
Can you think of any other unlocks like this?
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>>416147332
i'm the one who originally posted the video and said fools rarely differ. i have no idea what this post here is meant to imply
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should i play this game? is it active?
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>>416147378
Stock is better than the crossbow.
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>>416147378
>Gunboats
hell no, fucking garbage
t. banner + shotgun user
>Can you think of any other unlocks like this?
wrangler
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>>416147246
flares are not slow and most pyros just spam them at corners or choke points. "just doge bro" isnt a valid argument
you are the one that argued melee is strong in the first place.
soldier isnt annoying, try again.
difference is that only two classes can kill the pyro in that situation, but both would require wallhacks to know he exists
if this is your argument, every class should have a melee thats a direct upgrade to stock.
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>>416147378
>gunboats
>better than stock
lol
lmao
>implying pyro's entire arsenal doesnt constitute a whole a sacred whale
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>>416147741
Pyro does have broken unlocked but nobody really defends them for being fun.
If anything things like the Phlog and Scorch Shots are actively derided for being unfun overall.
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>>416147378
flares
>breaks pyros balance by giving him infinite range
>"they are weak bro! ignore the afterburn!!"
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the dragon's fury is too big and it distracts me when i don't use minimized viewmodels. thank you for reading
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>Solider mains constantly accuse pyromains of derailing the discussion to "solider bad"
>New discussion
>Soldier mains derail to cry about Pyro more
Everything bad about Pyro really does apply to soldier, huh?
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>soldier mains fears this
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>>416147628
You can dodge flares, it is not impossible to do.
Melee is strong because Demoknight, Ubersaw and obviously random crits that would instantly kill the Pyro. Pyro deals DoT, so being able to push people away and not get hit is good for him.
Soldier is annoying to me, so he should be removed because annoying things should be removed as you said.
That sounds like you aren't paying attention to the enemy team if you didn't know there was a Pyro. Just shoot the dude, you're invulnerable.
If a weapon's upside is so minimal and rarely comes in useful, where no one would use it because of other way better options, then being a straight upgrade is fine. I fucking use the Stock Fire Axe.
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>>416148146
>start off with "sacred cow"
>a term that only pyroniggers have used here
>start the list with gunboats, a """weapon""" that pyro niggers hate for some reason
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>>416148116
it's so fucking ugly, that's why i never use it. how can they fuck it up so hard
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>416148497
Rent free
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>>416148497
>word I no like, must be pyro main!
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>HUDS.TF will be closing down on Tuesday, 31st January 2023
make sure to download all the huds that looks somewhat interesting (especially improved default hud)
>inb4 geel's cabal buys it aswell like tf2center and backpack.tf
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>>416148736
>NO NO NO NO WAHHHHHHHH STOP IT DONT CONNECT THE DOTS!!!!! NOOOOOOOOO THERE ARE NO DOTS STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>416148843
Geel left Scrap.tf
It's just the pedo in charge now.
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>>416148843
why would i use anything other than the default hud? what does the improved default hud provide.
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>>416148876
>NO NO NO NO WAHHHHHHHH STOP IT DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT SOLDIER!!!!! NOOOOOOOOO SOLDIER TAKES SKILL STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>416149015
i never said soldier takes skill.
cope more pyronigger.
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>>416148843
>Please see the Announcements channel in Discord
qrd for non-troons pls
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>>416149165
idk, I didn't bother joining
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>>416149132
Don't care, retard.
Soldier is the most retarded class in the game.
also not a pyromain btw
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>>416149370
if you werent a pyro main, you wouldnt feel the need to say
>BUT OTHER CLASS!!!!!!
every time a pyro related discussion happens.
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pyro main too obsessed with defending videogame character
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soldierfag too obsessed with defending videogame character

>>416149452
Okay, since you soldierfags are really shitting your diapers at me for only turning your Pyro hate posts in Soldier ones, I will try to complain about Soldier more often.
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>>416149992
and i will complain about pyro more often, not a soldier main btw. engi main.
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>>416150195
Keep at it, you can keep complaining about Pyro all you want, that makes it easier for me to complain about Soldier.
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also i should mention that the complains about pyro really dont transfer over to soldier. nobody would care if pyro was low skill if he wasnt annoying to fight.
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>>416147378
Ubersaw as well
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Question about contracker item
How "points contributed to friends" are counted? Does contracker needs to be equipped in order for points to count?
also
>gif rel
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>>416150378
Pyro is very easy to fight unless you are a Soldier, where he is just easy.
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>>416150592
"easy to fight" is not mutually exclusive to "annoying to fight"
see >>416139856
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>>416148843
I hate Ryukishit so much it's unreal.
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>>416150717
You just sound like a fucking whiny bitch then
>oh, I killed him easily but he pushed me, man that is so annoying
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>>416133351
>heavy but instead of using my minigun, i shoot myself in the knee!
play scout
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>>416151308
Proof of unskilled soldier
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>>416151308
I AM PYRO. FAIR TRADEOFFS MAKE ME CRY!
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>>416134596
>heavyseethe
i lmao
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>>416151386
>Revs up minigun
>Dies due to not being able to move out hte way of shit
Wow I'm glad in a fast paced game I have not alternative way of dealing damage.
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>>416151308
I can't manage my health properly
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>>416151308
Troon genocider
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>>416151308
You should rocket jump yourself now!
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>>416151308
jk i'm playing soldier, of course i'm unskilled
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>>416151308
Go to 4chan.org/vg/tf2g for cool names like this one!
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>>416151308
Tranny shoes
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>>416151308
"a pyro said that. and id say he knows a little less about rocket jumping than you do pal"
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>>416151308
These aren't a gun or a boat, what a fucking stupid name.
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>>416151308
b4nny-tr4nny turned yomps into yompsteaks
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>>416151308
Guys pyro is op trust me
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>>416151308
MEET THE PYROTROON SEETHER
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>>416151308
man i love feet
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>>416151308
Scrap.tf is ran by child predators
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>>416151308
reroll of >>416151801
literally, copy this post and desc your boots with it
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>>416151308
boots that changes groomed pyro mains lifes
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>>416151972
pedotopia ban in 3...2...1...
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>>416151391
>>416151972
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>>416152143
based
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>>416152143
Scrap.tf pedos seething
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>>416150558
idk i dont have friends
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>>416150558
contracker doesnt need to be equiped, the contract just has to be active on your end and the actions of your friends (in the same server) will count for your contracts.
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Naturally
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I bet your contracker has points contributed to friends, you sluts.
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>>416135123
>the ecelebs voted pyro for discussed-at-length gameplay reasons
would also like to say that the idea that e-celebs made pyro win is bullshit revisionism- aside from dane you couldn't escape funke-esque pyro seething and "ok pyro's primary is literally fucking broken but heavy"
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Pyro would be fairly easy to rework to be better to use and fight if you are willing to make fairly substantial non-additive design changes to an entire class, which Valve has never been.
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did the leaks include any audio files of unused dialogue/VA outtakes?
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>>416155726
A shame valve never did "Meet the outtakes" where it's reanimated meet the scenes with the outtakes
>What makes me a good Demoman?
>...
>I forgot my line, sorry
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>Be Pyro
>Rainblower, Stock shotgun, Lolichop
>Ballonicorn, Infernal Orchestra, Burning Bongos
>Look exactly like a fresh install
>soldiers keep feeding me rockets long after they should have learnt because I look like a free kill
lol
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comprehensive list of best classes in tf2:

or simply the ones that do not require you to aim good:
soldier
pyro
demo
heavy
engineer
medic

worst:
scout
sniper
spy

my favorite classes:
pyro
heavy

classes I'd switch to if im bored:
soldier
demo
engineer
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>facestabs aren't rea-
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>>416159319
you walked backwards
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That doesn't make it not a Facestab.
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>Try to download TF2C and Openfortress
>They're both still directing players to the shitty installers that never work and require you to download like 5 different dependencies
I hope they never get rid of the .zip file downloads because then these mods would be actually unplayable.
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>switch to 3000 dpi*sensitivity
>instantly lose all my sniper aiming skills
how the fuck is b4nny so good with 3200 on sniper?
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>>416161413
b4nny is a chud and uses cheats
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>>416161625
based
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>>416161413
b4nny is autistic

no normal person let alone an adhd person can actually play tf2 for 8 hours a day every single day
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>>416159546
stop being retarded
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>>416161413
it's just thousands of hours with the same sens, not that it is better/worse to play with high sens
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>>416139856

>flare
relatively slow easy-to-predict projectile with an arc and slow reload, if you die at long ranges to 2 successful flare shots the pyro is gud and you need to git
>airblast
both projectile classes have fallback options for this- shotguns and stickies, which can't be airblasted or fire too quick for airblast to keep up with respectively, as for melee i have no idea what you are expecting charging the cqc class with melee
>afterburn
anything and everything extinguishes it, that's just the punishment for letting him get in range
>homewrecker
agreeably bullshit
>uber
your invincible? just fucking shoot him?
>neon
stop letting him in melee range
>direct upgrade
agreeably bullshit
>environmental kills
if this is an issue for you it may be worth uninstalling

only problem with pyro is that he isn't the cqc class he's supposed to be, buff his primary fire so that he can actually outdamage the other classes in his preferred range and adjust from there e.g. tweak airblast, a slight speed buff like the one they gave spy a few years back, play with his unlocks etc.
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>>416162665
I don't care what downie name spy mains have given it. If they're looking at you and you get a "backstab" it was a facestab.
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nominate and rtv killed tf2 servers
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maximum two rounds and then map switch killed tf2 servers
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Valve not updating the server browser since launch killed TF2 servers.
Valve wanting everyone to play on their shitty servers killed servers.
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gayload killed tf2
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tf2 killed itself with f2p
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>>416164245
and listening to comp subhumans
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>>416164245
>Valve not updating the server browser since launch killed TF2 servers.
pic rel
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>>416164841
In my defense everyone forgets about quick list because it's just not very good.
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>>416165628
nah I find it pretty useful
the only problem is fastpath fake servers
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>>416164061
incredibly correct
comp-lite was a disaster. and you just KNOW that they did it so they can compete with overwatch back in 2016
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Fastpath killed community servers, getting bombarded by adds killed community servers, fake ping killed community servers, donator perks killed community servers, community server jannies killed community servers, 50gigs of downloads killed community servers, valve servers killed community servers, matchmaking killed community servers
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>>416161413
I used to play FPS with high DPI when I was younger. You just need to be a focused tryhard and eventually you'll get used to it, but then there's no more room left for chill.
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I have never seen a fastpath server in my life. What kind of trash are you guys connecting to? I imagine fastpath only baits retards who play on 24/7 2fort instant respawn etc
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>>416156498
>demoman doesnt even say he forgot his lines
>just takes a sip and starts sobbing
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>>416167110
>7/32
>random name
>random unpopular map
>may have 2-3 bots on
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Why is the thread not moving?!
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>>416177156
we are all busy playing on kogasatopia
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>>416177156
tf2g is too busy getting baited by fastpath servers
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>>416177274
>playing on a -topia server
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>>416163097
samefagging because i just don't give a fuck

damage increase would obviously need skill indexing- jediflamaster suggested a consecutive hitbox hit tracker a few years back which i think would be the best system alongside a fixed up particle age system- would need to be more forgiving than the cut-throat and broken shit valve shackled the class with that we have now
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>>416177638
koggy is cheyed tho
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>>416178730
I'm gonna assume you misspelt shite, I agree :)
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>>416119942
https://twitter.com/ShorKtf2/status/1618228341827588103
People are getting mad at him on twitter again
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>>416178730
it's KEYED you retard
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>>416179334
>(((faceshit))) shill
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>>416178730
it is not
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>>416179334
>doesn't have merc medal in his inventory to disproof Zesty's claim
>>no screenshot of his steam stats saying his tf2 join date
>has only 2 smissmas sweaters
oy vey
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>>416180262
why do you not believe his word that he started in 2013 and why would he need to disprove such a ridiculous claim in the first place
also
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=208136153
>uploaded 2013
>backpack.tf history has regulary been updated since 2014
maybe look at more stuff before making conclusions based of deleteable items
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OW killed TF2 and no amount of cope will change that
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>>416138078
>Soldier has a high skill ceiling
This just isn't true. Rockets don't reward you for precise aim. It literally takes the same number of directs to kill a light class as it would with rockets that miss by 8 feet. That's not a "high skill ceiling", that's an incredibly low skill ceiling.
>b-b-but rocket jumping
Is something you can master with 2 hours of practice

Soldier's skill ceiling is just gamesense and positioning, which isn't unique to Soldier at all.
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>>416182121
Skill ceiling =/= Skill floor
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>>416182029
>why do you not believe his word that he started in 2013 and why would he need to disprove such a ridiculous claim in the first place
because his main proof of his join date got deleted by him?
>also
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=208136153
okay, that makes sense. It's strange that he posted no actual proof in his twitter thread.
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>>416182082
murder-suicides are always tragic
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>>416179334
The way Zesty talks it makes it look like he's jealous about shork getting the VAs together
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>>416182082
Unironically true. Compfags would have never been taken seriously if Valve didn't irrationally fear Overwatch, and Valve wouldn't have brutalized TF2 as if they were expecting some sort of zenkai boost
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>fn red bear shotty cost 30 bucks
>fn red bear strange shotty cost more than a new fuckin ps5
damn nigga i aint need the fuckin stat track shit that bad god damn nigga
gonna just get the normal people one slap a basic bitch killstreaker on that bitch and call it a day lmao them niggas gotta be out of their fucking mind if they think im paying like half a grand
like it look good but it dont look that damn good when the same shit right there and you save all yo money
aint a nobody gonna be inspectin my shit anyway lol
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>>416179334
>he thinks he is this new authority of the game
-the guy who (in more recent years) spends most of his streams shitting and pissing over the workshop
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>>416185835
yo you tell 'em homie
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hat drop
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>browsing the community market
>decide to sort from most expensive
>a lot of results are just shitty warpainted weapons, listed for over 1000€
>sometimes they are strange and killstreak but that's it, no spells attached, wears are terrible, the war paints themselves are mid tier
>literally nothing special to warrant this price
>a few of them are also listed by one person
what
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>>416187670
money laundering attempts
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>>416179334
i'm glad someone pissing these e-celebfags off at least
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Polymur I'm going to kill you shut the fuck up please
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>>416191886
tf2?
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> Be Valve 2017
> Release Jungle Inferno and new contracts
> New contract system is built to allow for easy and straight forward content development
> New system allows for points to be earned and redeemed for items specific to the update event
> Only implement the contracker system in JI, Halloween and Smissmas
> All Halloween contracts were just reused from that point forward
> All new contracts are boring "score x points" for every new map added
> Store rewards have never been changed or altered since introduction
> Never use it for anything else or expand on it
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>>416193183
theory, the guy who developed the contract system left valve or the tf2 team and someone else decided to work on basically the same thing as a pet project, and then that guy left so whoever is left working on tf2 is just doing cruise control with what's in place
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>>416192802
It is
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>>416193183
Was really hoping they would expand the free contracts for the JI weapons to include all other non-achievement weapons. Yes I know you can get every weapon in seconds with sites like scrap.tf, but it'd be a really cool addition
>New players have a whole campaign to do so they can get cool new weapons
>They're forced to learn how to use the weapon first before they have it permanently
>Gives seasoned players and excuse to try something else for a change
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>>416194324
remember when we thought the laser sight on the parrot meant anything more than a mouseover easter egg
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>>416185835
The strange one breaks anyways. A bug that valve still hasnt fixed makes the red bear shotgun look like shit in strange quality in first person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFZGbGzoXVg
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can someone explain to me why most community tf2 servers auto kick me with this reason when I try to join?

I have no vac bans and even asked valve about it, they said it's not on their end...are people auto banning me because I have one registered ban on a dead f2p game (dirty bomb)?
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>>416194721
Why can't these things just be strange without the ugly as fuck stat clock stuck to it?
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Any chance we could get leaks from 2015-2022? I want to see what they've been up to, if anything at all
>mfw there was a major update in the works but they canned it for whatever reason
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Can you get banned for manipulating bot prices on Backpack? I made a listing that was way cheaper than a bot's and it cut its price by 20% just to undercut mine by a few ref, and now every time I lower the price it undercuts me by 2 ref, so I'm wondering if I can just plummet my listing's price and then buy its item for dirt cheap so I can sell both at my original asking price.
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>>416136485
Discounting the Jungle Inferno unlocks we have:
Crusaders crossbow
Rescue ranger
Pomson (and arguably the eureka effect)
Ullapool Caber
Loose cannon
Shortstop (mad milk is a derivative of jarate)
Righteous bison
Wee Booties
Vaccinator (granted, this is a negative example)

A major caveat is that custom animations are a huge headache both to create and officially implement in source spaghetti code.
But yes, we are in dire need of a non-minigun Heavy primary and Spy could use a non-revolver primary, non-sapper secondary and maybe even a non-knife melee.
We almost got a mini dispenser.
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>>416195750
first, you need to ask yourself if it's worth getting banned for said price
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>>416194324
this + some way to inform F2Ps that there's a contract system with all the in-game weaponry
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>>416195305
because servers you tried to join are fastpath fake servers
are you bendy?
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>>416195487
>mfw there was a major update in the works but they canned it for whatever reason
they made a lot of crap for engie vs spy
iirc gun mettle and tough break are just a fraction of what they made for it
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>>416195750
you would have to get reported first and it has to involve an expensive item, so it's mostly about undercutting/manipulating your own bots/listings to increase a price
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>>416195487
>All those scrapped weapons they added in JI
>For several classes as well, not just for Heavy and Pyro
What was the purpose of those?
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>>416147378
Every medic player who's being honest will readily admit the crossbow needs to be nerfed so I don't know what you're moaning about.

Other candidates are the jag, rescue ranger, iron bomber, tomislav, pre-nerf gru, pre-nerf caber, sandvich/banana, bazaar bargain and jarate+bushwhacka.
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>>416196447
Didn't the leaks show two guns Engi was supposed to get? Or were they intended for an earlier update?
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>tfw havent played tf2 in about 3 monthes
>tfw MASSIVE performance anxiety even though I was always a shitter anyway
Also since when the fuck did they add CUSTOM DESCRIPTION to all these weapons? what all have I missed since the end of september?
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>>416197090
Description tags were added in 2010
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>>416197090
>anxiety
>game
KYS
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>>416197020
afaik the leak had scrapped content of engie update
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>>416197268
didn't read lol
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>>416196876
>jag, rescue ranger
these pieces of shit are just a meme forced by pedo dane
t. engie main
>iron bomber
already nerfed
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>>416197542
how is the rescue ranger a meme
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>>416195487
It was canned for three reasons. The first is that Jungle inferno was a disappointment and several tf2 devs jumped ship to other projects. The second is the flopping of Artifact made everyone at Valve nervous about taking risks. The third is that some madlad actually got HLA development off the ground.
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>>416197090
>performance anxiety
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>>416197720
>The second is the flopping of Artifact made everyone at Valve nervous about taking risks.
If Artifact failing unironically contributed to TF2's decline I'll kill myself
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>>416197090
>Also since when the fuck did they add CUSTOM DESCRIPTION to all these weapons? what all have I missed since the end of september?
some fags were scamming some retards for rare items by adding desc tags like "Halloween spell: XYZ"
Valve decided to stop this by adding this extra line of text
>>416197660
>supposed to let engies leave their sentry nest
>you are defenseless without a sentry (unless you limit yourself with a pistol)
>equipping jag makes you even more defenseless, since your damage output is even lower
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>>416197781
>"true" tf2
>6v6
>9v9
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>>416197542
The rescue ranger is still ridiculous even after it and the wrangler got nerfed, what are you on about.
>MUH UNCO DAYN, I WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION TOO GUISE!!!!!!!11111111111
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>he can't perform the sigafoo save
lul
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>>416198196
see >>416197964
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I literally figured out how to snipe good this afternoon and now Im one of those cracked aimbots now

the problem was literally that I couldnt click without making the mouse move but I've changed my grib so its steadyerino
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>join into dustbowl
>there's an engineer dressed like this below the last point, just crouching and manually swinging his wrench every second and some, just enough to not be the speed of him holding the button down
>he's just doing it back and forth in a straight line
>go down there and confront him
>"heck yeah!"

I think I found a new species of tf2 cryptid.
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>>416198914
He's mining for gold
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>>416138229
ya i can't post images right now but it said post successful

>>416124882 here
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>>416196876
>Every medic player who's being honest will readily admit the crossbow needs to be nerfed so I don't know what you're moaning about.
Which medic players are you talking to? Every time the crossbow is brought up the prerecorded response is that every other syringe gun just needs to be buffed up to its level.
>bazaar bargain
I've never heard someone describe it as "fun to use" ever since they removed any penalty for missing/bodyshotting.
>>416197542
>already nerfed
Still better than stock since its only downside is practically nonexistent compared to its upsides.
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>>416198914
>epic wacky roleplay please put me in a video!!!
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Genuinely, how do people enjoy playing casual? I either get joined into dead servers with maybe 4 other people playing, and new people don't join until the round is about to end or I get put in servers where the enemy team steamrolls the entire match because 80% of them are friends qued together, with +1,000 hours.

When I play on community servers everyone seems to be on the same playing field, even people with thousands of hours in the game.
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I need to use Sniper and Spy to finish the Hack of All Trades achievement but I don't know how to play as either class. Are there any MVM-centric guides or something for them so that I'm somewhat useful for the team?
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>>416199882
casual players are actually comp subhumans
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>>416199882
I queue for 2fort, harvest, powerhouse and other "deathmatch" maps and there (mostly) no compfags on them
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there's no reason for Valve to ignore koth_ravine and koth_lumberyard
these maps should be in game and in casual matchmaking
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>>416199996
https://youtu.be/beqM4CxARIk
pretty much the same things apply to sniper/spy on other missions
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>>416200907
>pretty much the same things apply to sniper/spy on other missions
spies aren't that useful in 2 shitties
outside of that yeah
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Can you transfer your stats to another account?
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>>416202678
no
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>it's a strange festivized specialized killstreak minimal wear warpaint coper
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>>416202678
Pretty sure you can change them with SteamAchievementManager, so you could probably just copypaste all of the numbers if you care that much.
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>my team unga
>enemy team bunga
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>>416203865
Is there a way to bring hours over as well?
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>>416203780
>non-strange Festivized Professional Killstreak Isotope Halloween Reindeer Vomit weapon (Battle Scarred)
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for me it's glacial BASED
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Honest thoughts on Hazard Warning: Slime Girl Dildo edition?
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>Pyro can't toss the grenades on his chest to set an area on fire for a few seconds as actual area denial
>can't even use them as blinding smoke grenades that do no actual damage
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>>416205790
Looks like shit in every wear that isn't factory new, and even then it looks worse than Hazard Warning. The neon green should've only been on the bloodstains.
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>>416206409
go play cs fag
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>>416177274
>>416178730
We nearly went an entire thread without one of these shills.
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>2 of the 3 bonzo wraith wraps are listed for sale
>not a single one of the fucking 27 smoking wraith wraps are on sale across any of the 4 sites I checked

for fuck's sake why did I ever sell the one I had
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>>416197627
where do people find this art? it looks really good
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>>416199424
>cynic
get bent
>>416206409
could be a genuinely good rework idea
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>>416208284
Artist is olddivan
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>>416204849
I have all glacial glazed weapons for pyro and tried to come up with a mr. freeze cosmetic loadout but eh.
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>>416200907
Thanks a bunch!
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bros... when is it going to moon...
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>>416208058
bonzo is for trading, smoking is for style
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>>416206409
only demoman is allowed to have improvised area denial, and to a lesser extent engineer.
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make / show a engie loadout NOW
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>>416210509
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>>416210509
>>416004554
>>416020079
>>416198914
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>>416207119
>'oggy BAD
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>>416196306
fast what? and no
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>>416210509
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>>416211093
>use wojack nigger slang
>expect people to take you seriously
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>>416211093
"ELLO YOUS TALKING SHART ABOUT KOGIA?!"
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>>416210509
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>>416214004
wuuuuuuuuub
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>>416214004
>>416212010
>>416210939
>>416210614
>>416004554
out of these engineers, which would you rather have on your team
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>vscript lets you play actual TFC in TF2
Why did it take Valve so long to release this? If people can do this much in a few months, I can only imagine what could have been accomplished in years.
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>>415994023
Looks like a screenshot from a 2000s R&B music video
IF I HAD ONE WISH
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>>416210509
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>>416010982
You don't. You don't reply, and you ignore him. Replying to these people anywhere, especially here, only gives them the attention they want.
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>>416214342
>actual tfc
>no tfc specific weapons / animations / viewmodels
liar
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>>416159319
-l
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the third degree is a downgrade because it psychologically influences you to force yourself to find excuses to use it rather than wm1 from the rear with backburner where you would still have a defensive option readily available
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>>416022463
>lets him by more on par with the other classes in terms of power
People have been making posts like yours for like 15 years because every class looks bad in public servers, and it's only gotten worse with random matchmaking.
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>>416216954
Why does heavy only have a back when I'm playing him?
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>pyro uses like 6 buttons to do an epic combo and hopefully kill someone
>my loch n load does the same from a safer distance in under a second with 2 simple clicks
lmoa
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>>416217170
I'm pretty sure backstab hitboxes are universal but I swear it feels like Soldier has a huge one and Medic's is almost nonexistent.
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>>415994463
Who is Leaf supposed to represent?
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>>416213674
oh my zellig
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>>416217902
Olivia Mann, she is basically the Leaf of TF2
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i am heavy testing guy
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Is Dane just spending all his money on tranny porn or some shit? Why the fuck is his servers some of the worst I've ever seen in a multiplayer game. Non stop lag spikes for everyone. Hit reg issues 24/7. I've seen free to host Minecraft servers with more stability.
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>>416226964
>Dane just spending all his money on tranny porn
based and beast
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>>416159416
>walk backwards
>get backstabbed
>turn around to walk forwards
>get backstabbed as well
what do?
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>>416228791
get backstabbed
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>>416213674
'zellig speak is banned on the server.
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>get unusual of my favorite taunt
>don't want to look like a showoff so never use it
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>>416229043
I fuckin hate engineers so G*d damn much
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>>416229043
>frame perfect swing
>perfect turn around right onto you
>happens to be a crit as well
even engineers are cheating these days. fuck this game
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Are unusual weapons based or cringe
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>>416236871
Based if they match the skin, cringe otherwise
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>>416236871
cringe like all unusuals, doubly so because they're on ugly ass cs:go skins
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>>416236871
non-FNs are cringe
99% of decorated unusuals aren't FN
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compfags just cant be stopped!
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>>416239926
what the fuck
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>>416242619
never seen a telefrag?
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>>416242649
I know what a telefrag is, it's the fact that those shots whiffed so badly
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>>416242753
this is the scenario that Uncle Dane fears
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>>416242753
Flaccid Snake is the opposite of me
my luck with random bullet spread borders on bullet magnetism
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>>416147378
Surprised someone hasn’t motioned the escape plan/pre-split equalizer yet. If they reverted equalizer’s damage to what it was at on release then it would be good on it’s own without the speed
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just saw a heavy with a medic gf. it's over. tf2 has fallen.
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>>416147378
does the eyelander and tide turner count?
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>>416245126
medic gfs are old news
now the hot trend is spy bfs
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>>416246362
elaborate
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>>416247564
heavy is a very good distraction since he's loud and slow and has the big health.
you know who works great with a distraction that doesn't run circles around the enemy? spy.
spy also goes pretty good with pyro too because of airblast.
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WOOOO-ee
makin' bacon
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how do i get better at negroman?
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>>416236871
depends on skin, wear and effect, my soldier got 3 unusual weapons and they all match for my set.
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>>416248187
reject stickies
embrace pipes
t. 850 hours on demo
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>>416248369
my should my secondary be then?
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>>416248456
a shield. forces you to aim with your pipes instead of leaning on stickies and gives you some mobility and defense. you can graduate to using stickies in combination with your pipes when you have mastered pipes
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>>416248510
any suggestions for melee? i don't want to go a full demoknight
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>>416248904
i stick with the bottle mostly. it can be a lot of fun to get some heads though and zip around with extra speed and hp laying pipes on niggas
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>>416248904
Not him but trust in bottle
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im wasting my best killing men years playing worse games because the only game worth playing has bots and cheaters in it
my race has never gotten over the generational trauma of the last dragon's fall
I dont know how the jews did it but they've hidden every last speck of magic away from me and made life the most mundane it could possibly be even though every culture in every part of the world has documented the supernatural
this cant be all there is
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>>416248904
if you used a sword it would be hybridknight, not demoknight, but the stock bottle does just fine for finishing off enemies you juggled with your pipes
targe is best passive shield, doesn't have the charge refill benefits the other shields do and has the strongest resistances so you focus on your primary more
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>>416249078
Just frag more
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i force myself to play loch n load tide turner demo as a means of self-flagellation until i improve
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how to improve at demo

loose cannon
sticky jumper
objector with this on it

load up 24/7 2fort and terrorize sniper until you physically can't

do every day
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>>416249208
lnl is a crutch, brother. you'll never develop the timing you need to use the superior 4-round launchers
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INTRUDER ALERT
RED SPY IN THE BASE
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>>416249356
i must land the directs, i must only kill with directs.
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>>416249412
same. but i do it with stock. you can too, brother
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>>416249315
thanks for the second opinion, but im gonna trust the demo with 850 hours
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>>416249694
just remember

sniper mains deserve it
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>>416249315
curious why squirtle
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>>416249891
it doesn't work unless you have that image on your objector, name and desc don't matter unless you're slandering squirtle
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>>416249940
ah ok
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im more of a bulbasaur guy
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>>416250094
beast
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I'm a bit of a retard myself
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>>416250094
bulbasaur objector is for practicing medic
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what's a charmander objector for
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>>416250157
me but unironically
*drives away in my wheelchair*
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wheelchair taunt for demoman like in meet the medic WHEN
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taunts that are actual taunts WHEN
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>>416251678
schadenfreude not cheeky enough for you?
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https://streamable.com/7054y5
https://streamable.com/euto1b
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>>416251678
2007?
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>>416251792
This is sad on multiple levels
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>>416251792
Getting mad at video games is the sign of brain damage
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>>416251792
sad but true
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>>416250848
scout
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>tfw the cleaver doesnt do automatic mini crit damage when you tomahawk someone in the head
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who else goes full retard on scout and sips crit-a-cola and then just uses it to toss a slightly more painful wrap assassin ball at someone
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I find it unfortunate and amusing that bleed is a better status effect than afterburn
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Every class should have at least one item that causes bleed, change my mind.
At the very least the demoman should for his demoknight loadout.
That mother fucker scout better start sharing
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>>416253113
this but while using shortstop as my primary
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>>416251792
how do I get no textures like that
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>>416251792
alpha chad calling out shitters for being shit
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>>416253305
why should spy have bleed?
only weapon it would be good on is a revolver since it's practically worthless on a knife but then you'd get sniper spies again and it would be like flare spamming pyro type of annoying but worse because invisible and if you made it a projectile then nobody would use it because most of the revolver's strength is in its effective range
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Anyone playing TF2 on mac or linux? Or are you all windows people.
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I do not identify with an operating system
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>>416255731
Huh?
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>>416254232
https://github.com/JarateKing/CleanTF2plus
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>>416255473
KYS cheating faggot
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>>416256835
This game still has a cheating problem?
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>>416257038
yes, most cheaters (if not all) play on linux
botting is still an issue, all bot hosters play on linux
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>>416257083
They should really do something about that.
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>>416254793
>not giving spy a bleeding throwing knife for a gun spy subclass
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>>416251792
>this video has been violating our terms of service
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>>416199882
Midwit plebs have a tendency to sacrifice quality of experience for one button convenience.
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>>416206409
That's because Pyro sees them as bongos and why would you throw bongos at people???
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>>416206409
Fog effects are absolute ass to play with and against in the context of tf2. Also you could probably config the particles away unless they get sv_pure protected status.
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>>416258607
so that they can play the bongos with you and have a little bongo duel
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I can hit more targets more consistently but Im just not as fast as you know one of them bajillion-hour sniper mains
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>>416258918
like if someone stops moving like for a second I can lock onto his head and kill him without much efforterino
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>>416253305
The southern hospitality is useless. I would like a bleed weapon on Pyro though.
Bleed weapon for demoknight is completely counterintuitive, he thrives on hard fast bash + crit melee swing, bleed is the opposite of that, hard pass.
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>>416259003
>though
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What would Soldier's bleed effect weapon be? He could probably just have a fucking rock or something
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>>416251792
upload as webm
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please stop talking about taking things away from scout, bleed is like the only thing he has left after the s'y took his speed and pyro took his crit combo
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>>416259228
>the rock-et launcher
>bleeds on hit
>no blast radius
>-20% damage
>is slightly affected by gravity
>can bounce between targets
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>>416259228
a boston basher reskin would be fine
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>>416259228
A pointier shovel
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I will literally never ever understand how anyone can enjoy playing engineer.
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>>416030612
take a thread seriously
No braincells, zoomie?
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>>416259228
maybe he could have some sort of shrapnel bomb, it does 65% less damage because it's not necessarily an explosion, but it applies aoe bleed and it's more balanced since it does cow mangler levels of damage to buildings. If you rocket jump with it you're affected by the bleed too but take roughly the same amount of blast damage as normal and since you're affected by bleed you're not as stealthy while walking around towards a health pack or going around cover.
>>416259436
concheror would kinda negative the penalty effect of that, though. then there's pairing it with the black box
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>>416259592
think of it this way
you have more fun when you win compared to when you lose
if there was a game where you would've had 0 fun if you lost, if you won that game you would've had at least some fun, at least in theory
eniggers are after this lowest form of fun because they can't get it otherwise, they can't hit airshots or meatshots and they can't fly so they have to try and ruin scout's game and more often than not it works out so they get that non-fun instead of being bored shitless as punishment for their aiming disability
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MOM SAID IT'S MY TURN TO GET THE UBERCHARGE
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>>416259592
eureka effect is pure shenanigans
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>tfw medic ubercharges the scout that just popped crit-a-cola on his stock scattergun
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>>416182082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEyx-08d5AA
OW fans when they take the kurt kobain medicine
>Dont make kapplan wait for (you)
>he waits for you on (((the other side)))
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yall think this loadout might be a bit too edgy?
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>>416260256
rare to see scouts running the crit-a-cola these days but I sometimes do this if there isn't any better uber target
>>416261647
maybe but just slightly
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>>416248904
trust in frying pan and ham
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>>416261647
madness looking head ass
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damn i need a black goalkeeper
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>>416248904
objector, the all class melee animation on demo is basically made to show off your objector
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>>416248904
caber
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>>416262569
I miss old caber
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>>416138191
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>>416263331
>Most backstabs
>As Medic
???
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>>416264046
>he doesn't know how to backstab as medic
lol
lmao
my only guess is randomizer mode gave him medic with a knife OR just a boring old bug
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I wish there was a spring case, or at the very least disabled the smissmas cases from dropping and letting you get old crates during spring
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>>416269272
>new "normal" supply crate with missing stranges
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>>416260829
>3:43
>there is nowhere else where you can truly experience doom or mercy style gameplay
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i always come back to dustbowl in the end....
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>>416272819
false, medic is superior to mercy in that he's promoted to heal his teammates for his ability.
meanwhile mercy is promoted to let her teammates die because thats how her ability becomes useful.
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>scout on pub starts trying to get me to get uber by boston bashering
bro, there are 11 people to heal here that are in active combat...
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>>416274417
well perhaps if you were healing at the front line and not hanging out in the engi nest he wouldnt start using the boston basher.
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>>416274014
They changed her res to only be single target, thus not encouraging her to let her team die.
I do agree though. Medic's übercharge and crossbow makes him way more fun and complex to play.
What I was saying is that it's silly to say you can't find mercy's gameplay elsewhere.
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>>416272819
medic yeah kinda plays the same as mercy (I would say medic requires you to be more active but whatevz)
but doomfist and demoknight doesn't play remotely the same, especially after the ow2 changes to doomfist
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>>416206409
Go play Pre-Fortress 2, they put grenades back in and Pyro has inferno bombs as his class grenades. They're good for area denial.
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>>416185636
No jealousy here, it's a comment on the abysmal state of the zoomer operated TF2 community.

They gatekeep everyone out except their friends and trannies, host charity events that are more about themselves than the charity itself. They care more about the ecelebrity status than the game they make videos and memes about. They throw stones from glass houses, then cry when a pebble reaches their doorstep because they're all insecure over stimulated teenagers.They constantly fight with each other over petty drama, since there's no TF2 content left to make aside from retarded memes and challenge videos. Imagine having so little time and caring so much about what others say about you/others, that you hate watch a 2+ hour vod, fishing for something to get mad at. It's all pathetic, and a sign of the slow death this game is experiencing.
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LOADOUTS NOWOWWWW
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>>416277941
stock
tide turner
bottle
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>>416277941
degreaser
panic attack
pan
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>>416277672
>there's no TF2 content left to make aside from retarded memes and challenge videos
can think of about a dozen off the top of my head right now
this is just an excuse jewtubers use for being lazy
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>>416277672
Nigger, you're the faggot making "le workshop rating" "epic map tier list" and "warpaints sOOIIIIIII" videos.

If you could be less of a hypocrite, and more of a leader like you claim you so desperately want to be then maybe people would respect you. The problem is people see right through your bullshit, and how much of a manchild you genuinely are.
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>>416279910
>if you defend someone you are him
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>>416280180
if you're not him then understand you're defending a manchild hypocrite who see's no issue with how he drives himself but instead projects his insecurities onto others, given that he actively drives to the decline of TF2.
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>>416277672
Couldn't have said it better myself
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>>416280180
>>416280686
>t. when my manchild is slightly less of a manchild than the other manchild
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>deliberately browses the workshop to look for shit to get mad at
zesty should find a new game already, his turboautism is starting to reach b4nny's level
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>>416280887
no you see, this is the content that wont kill tf2, same with map tier list, and more subjective graveling about warpaints (which ALL look like dog shit, even the ones he likes)!!
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>>416206409
Gas Passer exists, it's just trash
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samwiz stopped the fashion contests too soon
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make the new thread already you fucking retards

>no
go fucking kill yourself
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>>416283829
Maggot (Voice): No
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just make the OP image something original and creative
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b4nny in a suit it is
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>>416283829
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/b/b1/Demoman_no02.wav
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>can't start a new thread
what the fuck hiro
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>>416286094
I'm kinda digging team colored default Scout hat
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I think people would hate soldier less if rockets didn't shit out 110 damage at ranges where they're undodgable. I don't get upset when someone properly predicts my movement at midrange, but it's fucking retarded how close he can borderline suicide bomb you without hurting himself much, if at all, and gets rewarded for it with ramp up.
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>>416287273
Pyro main doesnt understand risk vs reward and gets mad because she/her doesnt have reactions to reflect a point blank rocket
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tf2 has plenty of game modes, but nobody gives a shit about them. How the fuck do you actually make people interested in garbage like mannpower and PASStime? the only person who likes mannpower is solarlight and nobody rememers pisstime even exists
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>>416287972
new thread
>>416287972
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>>416287749
>How the fuck do you actually make people interested in garbage like mannpower and PASStime?
put it in the default map selection
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>>416287749
>tf2 has plenty of game modes, but nobody gives a shit about them.
because a lot of gamemodes are map exclusive (tc_, sd_, medieval, etc)
>How the fuck do you actually make people interested in garbage like mannpower
guy who made it left valve
>and PASStime?
guys who made it no longer work with valve
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>>416287747
Pyro is my least played class, Soldier is my most played and I hate that he's strongest at the range that requires the least effort since leading rockets and predicting movement is what I think makes him fun.
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>>416289645
If a gamer is in a soldiers face then either the soldier jumped him (and put himself into considerable danger) or he was running around away from his team im which case him getting fragged is justified
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>>416288291
To this day I'm shocked they never did anything at all to support medieval mode. No more maps, weapons, nothing.
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>>416297374
As with everything in TF2 that was introduced and immediately dropped for no reason, medieval mode was some random dev's funny idea for a pet project that nobody else cared about or felt like they should be messing with
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>>416297710
Yeah, that much seemed apparent, but man. Compared to something like Mannpower or PASStime, it's super simplistic. It wouldn't have been hard to do anything at all with it. Unfortunate.



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