Previous Thread: >>360148582News:https://twitter.com/MB_LUMINA/status/1454012004646092800 (DLC Road Map)https://twitter.com/MB_LUMINA/status/1459102717113106436 (Nov. 12th patch notes)Wiki:https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Melty_Blood/MBTLMore infos: https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Melty_Blood/LinksMatches: https://melty.games/MB Western Server: https://discordapp.com/invite/0TJ5ma4C19VUCEeVMBTL Japanese Server: https://discord.com/invite/QpgXvbK265MELTY BLOOD PC Collection:https://nyaa.si/view/1042489Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code - Community Edition:https://mega.nz/file/fl5EwDJI#7ct_hnGphTfYgP8RQeGnQXupVt5nopRASXtx8oaRUi0Melty Blood Manga:https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
https://www.twitch.tv/funkypwatch climax of night for some current cope
I'm just waiting for DLC.
I just realized there is no TL tournament happening at Climax, just the exhibition match...why?
>>360899943Signups were all done before Lumina was released. They're doing show matches for it though.
>>360900228That's a huge shame. I really want to see more offline tournaments for this game. Netplay tournaments just aren't the same.
>>360899943entire tournament was set up before the release date was announced. Would have had to entirely change the schedule to fit it in. the runner keeps things tight.
>>360900378The next big tournament will be Frostys at the end of january. They will have a side event at CEO but it's capped at 64 entrants I believe.
ggs pciel. CC feels weird as fuck after TL.
You know the drill boysPC Room name: meltingKeyword: blood
If I want to read Melty I do it in this order, right?
Does anon wanna play some good ol' MBAACC? EU here.
>>360904334I just uninstalled it.
>>360904376And I just downloaded it actually. Not a noob though.
MELTIES IN /MELTY/
I'm honestly still in just because of Noel's sexy scream
>>360903204>no rooms foundIts over...
>>360908605It's back up
>online players losing offlinei like to see it
Ggs orzYour akiha is air fucking tight, I had no idea what to do Thanks for the practice, I feel like I learned a lot Also sorry to the guy who just joined I gots to head outI'll be making another room later tonight so stand by
wara looks annoyingi hope he doesn't come back
>>360903204My internet fucked me over again today and I randomly left again, dude. I'm sorry.Had fun anyways, as always. I hope that the next time we play my internet won't go out again.
I made a new friend playing Melty today!
>>360917927thinking people would play a melty blood game is delusion.
>>360917927Not even a few months later but literally a month and a half later.The biggest fault was that they separated the player base among different platforms with no crossplay and the PC port being riddled with problems from launch. The majority of Melty players are Melty players because the game could run on their 20 year old 98 Windows E-machines so what happens when you make Type Lumina actually require not a total toaster to run? You get a bunch of wifi Brazilians playing the game at 28 FPS causing rollback problems wildly while hidden under the veil of a broken 3 or 4 bar rating because the PC port sucks. The PS4 port is way better in terms of netplay but Melty players are originally PC players so most of them wouldn't be on PS4, and you have to pay for PS4 online too.In the end you just have a bunch of divided communities which results in deader online as time goes on and more people drop the game.
>>360918791It sucks but hey, those who play the game know how much fun it is and we will continue to be the omeganiche melty Chad's we always have been Can't complain, we're confirmed getting new stages and dlc down the road so players will keep playin and seethers will keep seething There will always be some player base to attach to no matter how small
Meltysisters, new League of Legends fighting game footage just came out and it makes our game look like shit (graphically)...
>>360924589>shitty 3d models running at 30 fps is better than SOVL 2D spritework(You)
>>360924589But it doesn't look anywhere near as good as strive, so Riot will have to redo it.
>>360924589I am a leaguefag that was actually hyped for it but it really doesn't look good with what they just showed.
Dang I really like what they're doing with the music in this tournament, that's a sick idea.>>360924589It looks nice, but strive mogs it for celshading and melty is kind of alone as a modern sprite-based fighter. Can't believe I'm actually thinking about playing it though, it's less dumbed down than I expected.
>>360928069link to stream?
>>360928225they're doing TL now >>360899254
Room name: meltingKeyword: bloodPCIt's back, come join
>>360928069It still looks dumbed down as hell though. Even Strive is less baby than this. At least Strive has motion based specials still, while it looks like Project L is using direction + button for specials. GBVS had that as well but still allowed you to use full motion for specials and even rewarded you for doing so (less cooldown time, more damage).
>>360929084Oh yeah it's dumbed down in execution I don't object to the loss of motion inputs desu, I was thinking more in terms of combos, unique character kits, and game dynamics. Obviously nobody's played it yet but it looks like there's more there than I expected.
>>360929383At a first glance it looks like it's maybe slightly saucier than GBVS, with assists.That's like comparing plain white bread and plain wheat bread though. I think I just enjoy airdashes and double jumps way too much that any fighting game without them as a universal mechanic just looks slow, bland, and syrupy to me.
>>360931248Yeah that's fair, lotta subjectivity here. And it's totally possible they'll beef it.
I fought you before I think, soaticWe're you the maids that absolutely dominated me not long ago? I feel like I'm allllmost there now, you're so fun to fight
3 people in the room so far, some good fighters. Don't be shy come fight!
>>360936332Not sure which player you are, but I've been showing up occasionally in lobbies here even if it's been a while since the last time for me. It's been pretty fun every time
that's the second time i've gotten this infinite win screen bug. thanks for letting us beta test for you, kamone.
Room is back up guys, not sure what happened
>>360941836i don't even play her but i hope you're right. her and nero are the biggest standout playstyles from old melty.
>>360941836which aoko will it be tho?
>>360942539That depends, considering TL wants to be an easier Melty I'd imagine it'd be H or F Aoko.
>>360943259Ggs bro, what the absolute fuck am I supposed to do during that insane hisui/kohaku combo you kept beating everyone's ass with? Specifically on wake-up after the super when you've got that plant oki going The combo itself does enough damage and you get double if the plant gets me on wake-up, which it did every timeShould I have shielded or not pressed anything? Go for an armored move?
>>360942539c-aoko would be the coolest but she would also break the game if she kept all her stuff.>>360943847the tree is strong. usually the koha will time it to hit just late enough to not be truly meaty so that you can't shield it to escape. the safest thing is to do is just sit there and hold it or maybe go for a delayed crouch tech to catch throw attempts.
>>360943847You have a few options with plant oki depending on how it's set up, but it's strong for a reason.The plant tries to get you to hold an incoming mixup. If you want high risk high reward, you can commit to a high or low shield. The counter to this is that Kohaku can throw you out of shield even on a meaty plant, but on the other hand a throw is lower reward and can't loop into another plant setup.Wakeup heat is also an option to check if the Kohaku is honestly doing the anti-heat OS
NOOOOO THE BUFF WAS SUPPOSED TO FIX IT FUCK YOU KAMONE FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>360955404ono is still smoking that shit i see
>get to A>too scared of losing the rank to play
I'll dodge Miyakos and Vlovs forever
>>360962630this but with a+
>>360962630i can make you b ranked again if you want
>>360962630this but with d
>>360962630Most people that stuck with the game are like A now, I rarely see C or D players.
anyone wanna play some TL?NA EC
>>360966592Why do you always play at 3-4 AM?
Do you even NEET?
>>360967053because I can, and I sleep all day.
The general's dying.
>>360969819the better ciel
Does MBTL have a "netplay friendly" stage? preferably besides the training stage?
/melty/? More like /dead/ lol
>>360973879theres a mod that replaces all the backgrounds with just green
Anyone games MBTL PC
why is lumina already a discord game?
It's not even 8am dude. People be sleeping
>>360955404Get fucked Saberfag
>>360979712If you want to fuck me then play with me anon!!!!! I NEED GAMES >>360978283
>>360979749I don't want to fuck people who play Saber, I have standards
>>360980179ggsHow do I fight this character
>>360982143Hit them, don't get hit
>>360982143GGs friend Thank you for playing with me and not being a BITCH dodger like this guy >>360979862Main things I noticed1) You do MD -> throw on wakeup almost always when its available. Sometimes it's better to just block on wakeup and save your MD, and don't always default to throw in MD situations because it loses to jump (I can do TK divekick or IAD for a punish)2) After you block Saber's divekick you should sometimes wait or IAD instead of immediately pressing a low/mid (which I was frame trapping every time with low shield). If you think theyre gonna divekick you should shield sometimes too (shielding a moon skill = free punish in most cases)3) Immediate wakeup heat is kinda bad unless you know your opponent isn't doing some kind of OS setup 4) You're a bit trigger happy with the MD MS ladles, I know it can be tempting because theyre so rewarding on hit and a lot of low level players get hit by it for free but against better players you just get shielded into a punish
>>360982552>>360982552ok, now what about beating everything else Saber has? I know what my problems are.
>>360982870The only thing that stood out to me in terms of matchup specifics was the divekick situation I talked about. Its better to work on your fundamentals before worrying too much about "how to beat X character".
>>360983404why don't you answer my fucking question you dumb saberfag?I saw you mashing 3BC when we started, is that shit safe? Are Saber's rekka enders not punishable? That's the shit I'm asking about.
>>360983552Saberfags don't want to spit out their secrets because they know they'll get destroyed if they ever do so.
>>360983552I don't think calling the anon a dumb saberfag is the best way to ask for help.
>>360983552Whats with the hostility friend? I had hoped you would welcome advice from someone far above your level? You got 10-0'd because your mechanics and fundamentals are bad, not because of anything specific to Saber. >3BCIts more minus than most unga bunga moon skills at -6 but usually not block punishable because of the pushback. For reference Hisui's ladle is -4 and 4 frames faster and has many more clash frames. Why are you chimping out about easily googled frame data? A troll 3BC sequence from one round at the start of the 10 game set isnt why you lost 10-0 lol >Are Saber's rekka enders not punishable? Theyre both punishable and require meter to be safe, plus the overhead is a free shield on reaction. Not a proper mixup like Arc's nor a gapless overhead like Kouma's >>360984157Hes mad cuz bad but I dont mind helping nonetheless. If theres even a slight chance that I can make someone else with a playable connection into a decent player (unlikely for him but still) it's more fun for me in the end.
>>360984391What rank are you?
>>360984695S+handle is "saber noob"steam account is private so you can't find him anywhere
>>360984756Aw man I was gonna ask for a match to get lectured as well but S+ is just too much for me.I fought an S+ yesterday and the most I managed to do was get their health bar to half.
>>360984391at least you answered my question. I don't get why there's so much shit that felt unpunishable.
>>360984695Im S+ Im still open to play if you want Im just trying to pass the time until the Revolution 20XX stream starts >>360984928No problem friend I forgive your chimp out. Just try not to fall for the noob trap of thinking "I lost because of X character" when youre fucking up basic mechanics like always doing MD on wakeup or throw after MD. Those situations would play out exactly the same vs any character
>>360985219Make a room and I'll be there in 5 minutes top to get my ass beaten.
Also shoutouts to Mizuumi wiki for not having the hitboxes for the following Saber moves:>j.C>3C>236X and it's followups>623X>214X>22C>6BC>3BC>4BC>j.6BC>236BC>>360985219>Just try not to fall for the noob trap of thinking "I lost because of X character" when youre fucking up basic mechanics like always doing MD on wakeup or throw after MD. Those situations would play out exactly the same vs any characterOk, then what even is "Type Lumina Fundamentals" then? Considering the terms fundies and neutral get thrown around a lot, I'd like to hear what you consider it.
>>360985453Well her sword is invisible after all
>>360985372Awesome kw = seiba>>360985453Are you the same guy I 10-0'd? Im certain I gave you several examples of what you were doing wrong with the core system mechanics .. again I think you need to worry about the fact that you were doing MD throw over and over 10 games in a row before looking at hitboxes on the wiki. Im willing to help you get better but Im not gonna baby you especially when your attitude is so scrubby
Noel I think we played before and it lagged and yeah it's lagging again.. sorry friend
>>360986260I think we did yeah.Oh well, thanks for the single match at least tho gg
>>360986035>you were doing MD throw over and over 10 games in a row before looking at hitboxes on the wiki.Did you consider that maybe I did that because I was trying to use it to reverse the situation? 6BC is safe, and the clash frames during MD can catch mashers. This is also why I tried MD>grab since that usually catches them off guard unless they mash 2A. Also considering it's a french bread game I have plenty of good reasons to know my opponent's hitboxes, considering how disjointed or fucking weird they tend to be.
i need to fuck ciel
I lost my hard time attack run to Arcueid in the 9th stage...
>>360987638Get in line
>>360991821you got it
That's it anons. I found a Discord server that plays TL around my region and adjacent ones.It's time for me to leave this thread, I've found my place...
deader than dead
>>361001153I'm just waiting for DLC.
>>360985453just get them yourself, we went over this in the last thread.
>>361001469Oh, I'm sure.
>>360925949To be fair no fighting game ever made has looked as good as Strive does. Strive is the evolutionary product of now several games of Arc Sys honing their 3D cel shading techniques in Unreal Engine. Arc Sys is the only Japanese fighting game company that actually benefited and improved their craft by making the switch to 3D in Unreal Engine. It's not even about other fighting game companies playing graphical catchup to Arc Sys as it is they outright lack the developed technique and infrastructure to even begin comparing to Arc Sys and it's looking like it'll stay that way for the foreseeable future.
the only good thing about the riot fighter is that people will rip the models, improve them, and then use them for porn
anybody up for a few NA PC games?
>>361013486Are the japs really so far behind the west that 3D game engines are still alien to them?
>>361019356Yes. The Japanese are not innovative creators. They are derivative modifiers and have been for literally their entire history. But that's perfectly fine. Not everything needs to be original as well as not everything needs to be modified. The tribes all have their own roles in this world after all.
I will have the usual melting blood room up at 8:00 pm East Coast time once I'm through with work, so get your practice in before!
shant be playing against s+shant be playing against maidsshant be playing anyone lower than 3 bars
>>361036457>shant be playing against s+what if i'm not using my main
anyone want to play mbaacc? west NA
>>361036678>Lumina so dead people make smurfs to get matches against low ranks.
>>361039864188.8.131.52:46318im on caster 3.1
scrawt 2 powerful
>>361040875me on the left
>>361041970hisui-chan is that you
This is it?
>>361039986ggs sorry for short set
>>361043652ggs. im too bad i understand
>>361042798Meltybros...we're dying for real...
Fuck Saber and fuck FSN, Ryogi deserves a spot a lot more, KnK has basically no games, FSN has a million ones, but they still went and added Fateshit in here.
>>361043694not at all, just had to do something. i think you're pretty good with that character, you just need more experience.
>it's another do nothing and lie in bed all day kind of day
>>361056197i went to the arcade today
>>361058270I slept for nearly 12 hours because I am depressed
>>361060259You need to fix that.
>>361060487exercise and positive thinking :)
>>361061410Which one of them is trans
Nobody got revealed at Climax then?
>>361061616kill yourself faggot
>>361061757neko arc dlc
>>361062903I want to sex Akiha
I want to sex Akiha but I don't want to self-insert as Shiki
Room is up boys, let us fightRoom name: meltingKeyword: blood PC
>>361064974i too want to sex akiha
>>361064974Should want to sex Noel instead, bro.
>>361066703i want noel to sex me
>>361065283Wew, a lot more people today. Pretty nice.
>>361066703I did at first but find her moveset kinda boring so I switched to Akiha.
>>361068090Pedo.Only the NoelCHADs and NoelBROs are good people here liking women of age.
I hope Lumina adds a FFA mode to its lobbies.
fuck i want noel to rape me
>>361068684Noel is built for gently overpowering.
>>361069090I want Noel to crush my neck AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Dear, French Bread.Please, we need more than one cabinet in Player Lobbies.Sincerely, your fucking playerbase.
Did you become B Arcbro? nice
>>361067158>>361067158I've noticed everyone who's been joining for the past few weeks have gotten REALLY good We're all way better players now because of all the hours practiced together. It's cool watching random buddies grow, finding new mains and ranking upSeriously there's a few people in here I couldn't touch for a while but now we're all just about close to evenly matched, and if not the fights are still mad fun
>>361070660I'm main Noel but I started playing with Arc randomly in ranked and got to B again recently.>>361070962I agree. The Shiki there is really fun to play against. I had a few matches against him the other day and it was pretty fun. It's helping me learn the matchup against Shiki.
>>361071205I'm the Noel/Kouma and I gotta say, it took my heart and soul to win that fight against shikillerGreat fight
>>361071205>>361072160I'm that rank A Shiki in there, the room is picking up, nice.Is the netplay working okay for you guys? I'm not in the USA
>>361071205Your Arcueid is sick ephi, great workI already think she's better than your Noel and is very scary Now if only we can get that maids player from yesterday in here
Go easy on the Rank D Shiki lol
>>361072456It's fine for me. I'm the Arcueid.>>361072540Thanks! Though I still need to work a lot more on her. I still mess up her neutral a lot and I don't know any good combo for her yet. I'm basically just doing autos.
>want to play>doing homeworknooooooo
>>361069686this but unironicallyimagine having only KOTH lobbies in 2021
>>361072815just do it tomorrow bro. come and play with the cool uncles
>>361069686what were they thinking???????????
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I hate Miyako so much.
Bro is that Hisui legit? She literally has a 100% win ratio.
>>361073765I have to send it in tonight! i'll be there in a minute just keep playing!
>>361074190Yes, this hisui fucked my shit in before
I can't against the Miyako. I feel like I'm doing small silly mistakes that end up making me lose the match aaa
>>361075694I can catch wins against the miyako fine, it's this literal pro hisui that's killing me here
I have 2 bars against that Hisui...
I'm satisfied with almost being able to get a round out of that Hisui.I think that's it for me for tonight though! I'm tired and I have to work tomorrow. Thanks for the lobby as always, had fun!
THAT KI CHARGE
Awesome as fuck fight Shikiller finally had someone he could go all out against and hisui had a real challenge Kino
there is a lobby up?
>>361078468when you make one
>>361078468there's a lobby under the keyword "blood"
I plan on joining lobbies in the future. I'm just waiting for DLC.
>>361078508Cant waiting on someone before I go out. Would join for a few matches before leaving if there was one.>>361078695ok
>>361078468>>361065283I post them once or thrice a day usually, depending on my scheduleWe typically get 6-7 people now, so there's room for more
These A rank Shiki vs Hisui are intense.
>>361078835Damn first time I see a full lobby in a while what happened?
Make the room again if he doesn't want to pass.
>>361079261Slowly building up more players over time, players got good, good players generate hype and more players wanting to join
fighting against noel is so boring they need to shorten her combos or something
Holy shit the dragon was slain
mbtl is my first real fighting game, but Im scrubbing it up in E rank rn. Whats your advice to get gid?
ggsDid the lobby get less stable for anyone else after we had around 7-8 people? the connection seemed to get worse after a while for me also Abolish KOTH only lobbies Kamone for the love of god
>>361081368Honestly? Stop caring about rank because I don't think you'll find many E rank players anymore to rank up.
>>361081739Yeah once more people joined i kept losing connection to spectating.
>>361081989alright, it's exactly what I feared then.
>>361081368Try a little bit of everyone, find out who's play style you like or pick someone you just really *really* want to playLook on YouTube for basic bnbs to get you started but don't rely on theseJust have 2 or 3 decent ones memorized to bust out when you wanna go offGenerally you're just gonna be landing stray hits and trying to get as much off that stray hit as possible. Link a few normals into a special, into a super move or maybe a moon skill and try to finish your sequence of attacks in a favorable position so you can continue to apply pressure to your enemy. Auto combos are actually decently okay in this game so it's okay to use them as a panic but so not rely on them to actually get wins. Typically your best way to get in will be character specific so just take your time and figure the ins and outs of your character. If you have anyone in mind you wanna main I may be able to lend some specific advice
>>361081739You can change the KotH rules if you want, rooms don't have to be "winner stays" you can make them Loser Stays, Random, Both Change" the creator can even change these settings while the room already started with different rules.
>>361082343Who's the owner of the room? make it random
>>361082343You're missing the point. I want everyone to be able to play games at the same time, rather than have people wait in line to watch two people fight each other.
>>361082231i want to play the karate loliwas under the impression that fighting game players memorized all of the bnbs listed in a character's dustloop or video tutorial? is that just not accurate?
>>361082662I made it random earlier and nobody was digging it so I changed back Feels more right to have everyone get their turn than a random sequence of fights >>361082701I agree and it should definitely be an option but I also do like that were forced to spectate the other players fights. Really helps learn the match up and gain better fight skillz
>>361081368>>361082891Figure out some basic combos, the ones in mission mode are great for a foundation, and if you plan to play as Miyako, she can combo off of her throw, something which is great in this game due to throws beating shields easily. In addition, it's a good idea to try learning the defensive mechanics such as shield, heat, and moon-drive.If you have a foundation and continue to build on it, you'll eventually get somewhere, I believe in you, bro.
GGs PC lobby. Have to go, but lobby was going to be closed soon anyways.
Ggs to everyone who joined the lobby, it makes me really happy that you guys continue to come fight here, thanks for all the fun evenings >>361082891You will get their eventually if you wanna be that sort of player but everyone plays differently. I know insanely good players who just rely on fundies and not being retarded who don't know a thousand combos and play greatThere are retardcombo players out there, and characters made for them, but you can go far without doing all that stressful hard shit first and foremost With melty especially I think once you get a feel for your character, combos feel second nature and come from pure muscle memory where the real game lies in your approach and making actual smart, quick decisionsAnd you'll learn all that with experience, just play bro As for the loli I honestly don't know jack shit about her I actually don't mesh with her gameplay style at allI'm a Noel/Kouma bro myself
Dropped way too many inputs but I guess this is what I get for grinding Faust and neglecting Arc.Thanks for the games everyone. It was fun.
>>361083406thanks anon, ill grind some stuff, and show up in the lobbies in these threads soon
The blood red moon shines upon those called to the slaughter. Will you fight to survive or will you be left as nothing more than a stain on the road to someone else's glory? Find out on Saturday 12/4 @2pm EST as /FGG/vo will be hosting its first ever Melty Blood: Type Lumina PC tournament! Everyone is welcome to join as this is open to all regions! Looking forward to seeing you all there and don't forget to sign up in the link below!https://challonge.com/Burning_BloodAny questions? Feel free to ask.
>>361084321Fuck yea brother I'm in
explain to me how Moon Drive and TL's shield mechanic aren't scrubby mechanics meant to make new players feel like they're good at this game
>>361092529why? you didn't explain why you think that they're scrubby mechanics.
>>361093257Moon Drive:>universal pause button mechanic present in every french bread game for the past 10 years>can enforce a strike/low/grab RPS up close>gives moon skills even more clash framesShield:>eats inputs when an attack is shielded>every followup is slow enough to be shielded on reaction>Shield B punishes you for shielding on reaction to an attack that just got shielded>Shield B+C can be jump cancelled even if it whiffs>even if you get shielded, you can just press B+C and you get to do the B+C followup, even if you're not shieldingShield A is the only followup that doesn't feel like it has some dumb shit attached to it
So many Miyakos...
>>361094809Y E S !
How is MBAACC if I'm coming from MBTL? is it a better or worse game, and who's considered beginner friendly?
>>361098060It's a dead game, and it's harder
>not a single character in MBAACC clicks with me>only one character in TL clicked with me
playing at this time is a lagfest for some reason...
Is PS4 more alive?
I know it's hard, but at least you're not actually dead like this game.
>>361112106what do you do with your life?
>>361112106shut up nigger
>play 4 bar Shiki in ranked>game 2, he's down one round already>he activates blood heat>catch him off guard, hit him with 2B>hear Shiki get hurt>game rolls back>hear shield sound effect>eat Shiki's Last ArcI hate this game's online so much it's unreal
>>361116112blood heat is such a fag enabling system mechanic every character should have a normal that goes throw shield and gives a bad combo on ch
Is MBAACC's online via caster better than TL's netcode?
>>361119598Probably, mbaa is very low resource intensive
>>361119598No, you can do over 5000km in Lumina on 1frame. In caster you'd need to do 4 - 5frame delay. They're basically the same for same region play.
>>361119798well unfortunately MBTL doesn't show distance or ping, just bars that are unreliable from my experience.
Fuck nobody around is playing
>buy uniel>online sucks>buy unist>online sucks>buy mbtl>online sucksI don't know if I'm retarded or fremch bread being shit at online infrastructure, but god damn.
>>361125445A bit of both.
>>361125445>buy unist>game is dead>upgrade to uniclr>game is dead>buy mbtl>game is deadgod damn indeed
>>361094264>universal pause button mechanic present in every french bread game for the past 10 yearswasn't universal in dengeki, only certain characters had blue trump. Not really sure what the point here is.>can enforce a strike/low/grab RPS up closeso can a bunch of other mechanics in a bunch of other fighting games, I don't understand your point.>gives moon skills even more clash frames"Even more?" Moon skills ONLY have clash frames during moon drive. A lot of them aren't even good outside of moon drive.>eats inputs when an attack is shieldedit's poorly designed, yes. I hate this too.>every followup is slow enough to be shielded on reactionA and BC aren't reactable. You're pressing shield on reaction to the shield happening, you aren't reacting to the followups starting. That's why:>Shield B punishes you for shielding on reaction to an attack that just got shieldedif you brainlessly mash shield on reaction to shield you get BTFOed. Stop being a scrub and think about your actions.>Shield B+C can be jump cancelled even if it whiffsit just recovers, yes. You're spending meter so it's meant to be stronger.>even if you get shielded, you can just press B+C and you get to do the B+C followup, even if you're not shieldingtakes half the moon gauge to do and won't actually hit the other person(they are still in shield). It's basically just paying half gauge to go back to neutral.This kind of shit is in a ton of other games, not just modern ones. If you're upset by this you're probably upset by nearly every fighting game ever. Get good.
"If I hit the right button during a scramble and hit my opponent, it was a read and it's skillful. If I get hit during a scramble, it's RPS and it's scrubby."
If you predict that your opponent is going to shield, you never have to worry about the follow-ups because you'll be hitting them.
stop pressing shield and just throw lmao
>>361098060A bit clunkier considering no buffer for IADsAlso you don't recover any air actions you spent before getting hit in the air, so you need to keep aware of itCompletely different meter gameCompletely different shield game, Lumina shield habits can get you killedReducing and EX blocking takes getting used toOld kusoge shit like different wakeup timings, different knockdown wakeup timings and weights are prevalentOverall I recommend it, it's great and I say that unironically.
>connection is smooth through out matches beforehand>next match get consistently disconnected from same person mid fightSAVE ME KAMONE-SANNNN
Friends don't let friends play lumina.
>>361145358>Friends don't let friends play lumina alone.Fixed it for you.
Anyone want to play mbaacc with me? west NA
I want to get into PC Lumina but don't want to buy the game again at full price. Anyone think they're going to do a sale anytime soon? I tried checking for keys online but most are still around the 45-50 USD range.
>>361168731Probably around Christmas, just don't expect something huge, probably 15 - 20%.
>>361112571Literally I shitpost here and the other fighting game generals like /fgg/ and /ggg/, it’s basically all I’ve done for a month now.
>try mbaacc>feels too stiff/difficult to get into, even with easier characters>try uni>online sucks ass, feels worse than anything else>try mbtl>online is ass half the time, what's there feels basic and OS-HeavyIs DFCI the only good french bread fighting game?
>>361172697>>feels too stiff/difficult to get into, even with easier charactersOk retard, the movement is the most fluid feeling thing I've ever felt in any fighting game, especially compared to how stiff and bad the inputs feel for Lumina
>>361172905Lumina feels way more fluid to me though. CC feels slower in comparison.
>>361179494>Lumina feels way more fluidmakes sense because of its generous input butter>CC feels sloweryou lost me
>>361181181Both ground and air movement are slower.
>>361181345i can tell you've never played a vakiha
>>361181345I haven't really playing AACC that much but fluid movement isn't the same as faster.
Are we going to be okay?
>>361182702Those two sentences weren't referring to each other. I should have added "also" to "CC feels slower in comparison".
>>361185597we'll be fine but you're terminal.
>>361125445MBTL is the last time I fall for the fighting game scam. Always a waste of money.
>>361192334same. I'm sticking to renowned titles from now on
Avoid french bread games, they all have shit online.
Noel is so cute bros...I want to marry her.
ArcueidBROS, what are the BnB of Arcueid?
>>3611970832ab 5c4c airdash delay jC j2B 214A 5B 2C (3C jBCA throw) / (236BBB 214C)
>>361185597I'm just waiting for DLC.
Stop saying "bro".
>>361197567People who say that never actually pick games back up.
I have a bad habit of holding down pre-emptively when I plan to do a super jump and then the super jump doesn't come out because I've been holding down for too long.
>>361199865Yeah you gotta get used to flicking it instead
>>361200108Kind of useless frame date but after testing, you can hold down for a maximum of 7 frames, at 8 frames you get a normal jump. After letting go of down, you can stay in neutral for up to 13 frames before hitting up.
>>361197518wtf man is this bnb for arc? this seems hard as fuckI can't pull off the airdash delay jC, that's fucking tight
>>361172697What do you mean? DFCI is also extremely basic and full of OS. OS's are also very prevalent in AACC, and in UNI
>>361204223hes just pretending to play it, like most dfci fans do
Is this known? If you do j.236B or j.236C too close to the edge of the screen, the projectile doesn't appear.
>>361201790you can make it a bit easier by doing jB(single hit) instead but it gives you about the same damage as a worse bnb but it can train you to get the timing, I guess?I hated doing this one for a month but then I was suddenly able to get the timing right. Idk just keep trying.
I shouldn't have picked Akiha as my main
Are you having fun yet?
Melty OST > UNI OST > Lumina OST
>>361218487I'll have fun when Kamone fixes the damn online
NA PC steam://joinlobby/1372280/109775241008916253/76561197975250076
>>361218487I'm having a character crisis.
>>361219103Just joined, are you guys going to finish the FT10?
Come, my strong fightersRoom name: meltingKeyword: blood
Alright ladsmy friend thinks Ciel is bad because "all her normals are too stubby" and "every character does what she does but better"Is my friend right or making excuses for if he ever loses?
Just realized Shiki can't shield back if his 22A gets shielded, so on top of not being a cross up it also instantly loses to shield.
>>361224129Even if he were right he's just making excuses, anyone who justifies their losses to "muh character" are scrubs.
>>361224129why would her normals matter much, she has those crazy keyshe's crazy
>>361223954No rooms found
Imagine, if you will.A Type Lumina where the shield button comes out when you press the fucking D button.
>>361225524freeze frames eating your inputs?
>>361224129Her normals are stubby/weak and her special conversions aren't very good but the keys make up for it honestlyWould not put her on the same tier as Shiki for sure but she's still pretty good
>>361225709FUCKING EVERYTHING EATS MY INPUTS AT THE WORST POSSIBLE TIMES IN THIS GAME, YESI TRY TO DO SHIELD, AND IT DOESN'T COME OUT, AND IT HAPPENS EVERY TIMEI PRESS D WHEN I SEE MY ATTACK GET SHIELDED, SHIELD DOESN'T COME OUTI PRESS D AT THE RIGHT TIME, NO SHIELDOR I PRESS D AT THE RIGHT TIME, IT COMES OUT, ONLY FOR MY FOLLOWUP TO GET SHIELDED, OR BOTH OF US DO NOTHING AND I GET GRABBED BECAUSE LOL XD YOU CAN'T DO SHIT IF YOU WHIFF YOUR SHIELDI JUST WANT A GAME THAT WORKS AND ALL THOSE SLANT EYED FUCKS OVER IN JAPAN CAN'T EVEN DO THATGODFUCK
>>361226321Ah yes, the "I swear I pressed the button", a classic.
>>361221223I’d kill to impregnate Noel and raise a happy family bros…
>>361227204kill yourselfI'm literally pressing the D button and no Shield is coming out nearly every timeand it's always online where this dumb shit happensI go into training mode; I press shield on reaction to getting shielded; comes out every timeI hate the fact that I paid full price for this garbage when it's barely functional online and barebones offline.
>>361223954Room is back up
ggs, sorry i left right after switching, something came up
this was the only fighting game I had hope for and I'm very quickly losing hope in TL because of the shit online and the new mechanics all being varying degrees of ass
>>361228082If you're so desperate reduce your input delay frames for online play. If not, react faster or stay free.
>>361230373MY INPUT DELAY FRAMES WERE AT 0I WAS DOING EVERYTHING I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AND THE FUCKING SHIELD STILL DIDN'T COME OUT
>infinite loading circleHope I didn't break the lobby
everyone seems to have left?
>>361224129her normals being stubby aren't really a problem with her when she can deal out good damage from full screen, use meter to punish you for B-Shielding and set jump mix up on the hard knockdown that follows, she's either right in your face or on the other side of the screen
>>361224129fuck your friend those keys are a pain in the ass and shielding +b them does jack shit since Ciel moves forward when using them. That could've flied before the patch but nah she's solid now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVtSTeY0mwg>tfw lumina online
Why would you throw a ring there Akiha anon... Kouma as in blood heat...
Room is dead? ggs
>>361230250Why did you have any hope for it in the first place?
>>361235650Because everything else looks like shit
>>361241918Strive removed gatlingsdon't care about street fighter or kofBB is deadGBVS may as well be deadDNF Duel will know almost nothing about nearly a year laterUNI is completely dead3D fighting games are kusogelol if you think I'm playing SGLumina's netcode can go from playable to unplayable in the blink of an eye with no real way to fix it
>be me, C rank scrub>enter serioso lobby>see an A ranker vlov curbstomping another A, D, E ranks>my turn to face him>he switch to Shiki>he arc drive finish me with 90% hp left at round 1>caught him off guard with my kohaku awkward plays at round 2>me wins the match>he asked for a rematch>me chose to left the lobby
>>361246116I don't get it, is your post supposed to be clever or something?
>>361247075he's posted this before and got caught, ignore him
>>361225524Funny, I have the exact opposite gripe with shields.The buffer is too fucking huge.>Warc does 623c>Try to shield it out of habit>It's too fast and I block it>Aight fuck it gonna hold this pressure>Shield comes out after blockstun>ExplodeI'd give you a better example, but honestly I don't remember the specifics.
>>360898641well fellas i gave it a week the dpad for the hori fighting controller octa is a fucking travesty and im never buying from those guys ever again ill either just get a hitbox when they're available or get the razor controller now. not being able to block a saber rekka because the dpad stopped reading my input finally done me in and they were all lows as wellblogpost
man I wish Type Lumina's color editor wasn't so shit. Even something like remaking colors from older Melty games feels like it's limited.
>>361197518Is there any reason for going 236BB instead of 236AA?
>>361251096236B is is a few frames faster and thus less likely to drop. 236A is a few frames slower but it's safe on block. 236A for pressure, 236B for combos. They do the same damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyq8fzJDcRwmelty characters for this feel?
>>361252269I see, thanks Anon
>>361250579Hori sticks are good, I'd never buy their shitty pads though.
kohaku is so braindead wtf
>>361261715>shields your j.Cnow what?
>>361261846option selected my safe jump with my own shield bc
>>361261919>shields your bcnow what?
>>361261994*it's a hologram*
>>361252421A few other things:the followup hits are the same, the difference is only for the first hit. 236A is -5 on block but shouldn't ever be in range to be hit by 5f buttons, 236B is -7.In the combo I mentioned you can use either 236A or 236B, but other, longer combos will need 236B to connect.in combos that use 236[A], using 236A later will trigger SMP, making 236B do notably more damage.
>>361262150>236A is -5 on block but shouldn't ever be in range to be hit by 5f buttonsi'm stupid, it's actually -4, so can't be punished regardless.
>>361242842Strive didn't remove gatlings.The last SF game I played was SF4 super, but I love KOF.BB is indeed dead.Granblue was never alive, so it couldn't die.I don't know shit about dungeon fighter, except that all my fighting friends played it a hundred years ago.Uni is french bread. Stop taking their fucking bait, anon-kun.I hate 3D fighters, too.Skull girls is cancer, was always cancer, and only got more cancerous as the years passed.Lumina is garbage and the japanese can't fix it unless they pay the arcsys white man to do it for them.
>>361267303the rollback netcode is there already which is a right step in a good direction. It's just a matter of tweaking it bit by bit with updates. It works fine for me most of the time
>>361250579Why don't you build your own hitbox? It's not that hard. I built my fightstick with no prior experience both in electronics or carpentry and it turned out fine (The carpentry is a little rough on the edges but more than serviceable). A+ rank Lumina and my inputs are clear as the blue sky.Unless you have the money to spare, in which case do as you like
Coming from PS4 ranked, which names should I avoid on PC? Already ran into a "S+" Hisui with 77% WR and 2.1m RP who lagged like shit and did nothing but shield on defense. He still airdashed into every Kohaku j.[C] during neutral and died to guessing wrong on meaties though.
>>361288045Is it my middle school aged wife Noel?
Some Len stick art.
>>361295430How do you make those?
>>361296150Basically you need to start off with grabbing the layout from your specific stick creators website or from Focus Attack.For the main background image, I decided to go with a 'Renders in Shapes' style image. There aren't a lot of good candidates for a Len image though, and finding a background was a bitch. I think this took me about five or six hours and almost the entire effort was trying different combinations of characters and backgrounds.Here's a very good guide on making a Renders in Shapes style edit.https://youtu.be/cErAeu39y8MI did a lot of color editing to make the background more vibrant without blowing it out, and then edited Len to match. I didn't do the button art, I had a friend help me but it worked on the same principle as the Render in Shapes idea of having the shapes itself be un-blurred while everything else was blurred with a border around it.The top bar is based off the bar that originally came with this Eternal Rival case and while I'm not sure how the person helping me did that render in particular, I know it involved manually selecting her out of the image using Photoshops various shape selecting tools and then finding an appropriate snow asset and background. Then a border got applied to that as well.This is what the PSD looks like for it.You have to flatten the art but you want to be careful not to flatten other elements.
>>361296839Thanks for the explanation fren
>>361302302Hopefully soon, anon. I want her.
>>361314045saberkeks... how can we compete...i kneel...
>>361314045I laugh at Saberfags. Obviously the superior choice here is Arcueid.Why would anyone pick Saber over Arcueid? I do not understand.
>>361288045good, they're finally adding necomech
>>361288045big if true
Still waiting for the DLC?
>>361322885yeah. It's been almost a month since they first confirmed dlc was gonna be a thing.
Back to C.
>>361323143Hang in there, anon
>>361247075are you the real kamone
DLC can wait, fix the fucking existing game please.
>>361334179what needs fixing the most?
>>361334449single cab rooms
I wonder If Lumina is getting a discount during Black Friday
>>361337119barelyand they waste everyone's time
6 player roomrematch limit: 10
Was he right?
>>361338621i can connect and play another person. that's what is important. The system works. Is it not an optimal system? Yes, that's true. It's lacking modern features. To say it's broken and needs fixing is wrong.I only play 1v1 rooms.
>>361341010see thats fine and dandy but the only reason to not have multimatch lobbies this day and age is sheer laziness/good old japanese stubbornness. when even fucking nick all star brawl out does your lobby system something has got to give
>>361340621there's a lot that you could argue to be the "soul" of melty blood. he just went with those mechanics because they've been around since the beginning and he had ideas about how to make them the focus of TL.
>>361340621the soul of melty is mashing 2a and le air footsiesi really hope they do something else with clashes in the future cause right now it's just annoying
>>361340621Do you wanna trust the guy who buffed top tier Vatista?Insisted on no wifi indicator in his games?Can't make good online if his life depended on it?Wanted to get rid of airdashes, gatlings, traditional fg inputs, etc. at first?
>>361341285bro after playing CC for years where to play another person I had to close the game and put in a new ip I'm just happy to have anything. When I play strive I hardly even use the multiple stations anyway. The system works.
Modern grappler characters aren't built around the grab, they're built around invincible moves and super armor.
>>361353542kouma is built around the same things he was always built around. His armor got better but he was never focused on getting grabs above playing the game.
>>361356037case in pointKouma's a grappler, but his has a bigger focus on mashing super armor and invincible moves to get in, rather than be built around his command grab.
>>361356190but his design has been like this from 2005, so your argument about "modern" grapplers doesn't apply to him.
>>361359232>>361360101you do it
not buying until she's in bros
>>361228082just hold the button lmao
How to I get the 214A input to come out in Shiki's 4-3 mission? That move normally is the slide, but in the demo he does a double slash and I cannot for the life of me figure out why.
>>361373612https://litter.catbox.moe/52n1jv.webmThe double slash?I think you mean the 2nd hit of his autocombo, he does 2 slashes during that, so the mission wants you to hit him with C, hit C again for his double slash autocombo, do the 214A slide and go into Arc Drive
anyone wanna play TL?
i hate shield so fucking much
https://meltyblood.typelumina.com/en/faq/Type Lumina's website has an FAQ page now.
remember when french bread said they fixed this
KOTH lobbies foreverprease undastandu
>>361392704Either they forgot or the patch notes lied
"just calculate the distance between randos bro"
This FAQ is just "fuck you"
>>361396350small indie team prease understand, they're online lisenced by the company that owns one of the highest grossing gatcha ever
anyone wants to play MBTL?NA PC
>>361417437we got too cocky bros
It's not like Type Moon is short on money or something. Why isn't Lumina on discount? REEEEEEEE
>>361426446it's just 2 months old bro
>strive 35% off despite selling half a million+.>lumina not on sale.Dead game, now and forever.
This game needs bigger boobs
DLC will save it.
>>361439124fightcade is where all the KoF chads are desu
>>361427350S-should I buy Striveshit... The beta was boring as fuck but I don't want to be alone...
>>361439124it's funny that it has comparable hour to hour players but a much higher 24h peak.
>>361439124Like, I'd like to make fun of Lumina, but that's honestly sad at this point. How the fuck are you this close to death not even 2 months after the release?
>>361444967Bad rollbackBarebones singleplayerNo plans to fix online issuesOther games have better QoL featuresShield/Moon Drive turned some people away
>>36144523750 bucks btw
>>361444967anime fighter based on a niche visual novel that isn't even in english made by a small company that almost nobody knows about
>>361440487If you think you will like it and if not you can always refund it.
any numberposters wanna play?
>>361445706I'd agree with you, if not for the fact that an anime fighter based on a niche visual novel that isn't even made in english made by a small company that almost nobody knows about hit 13k players at one point. We're sitting at like 1,5% of the recorded max, barely 2 months after the release.
>>361446605>hit 13k players at one pointfate fans who played saber's singleplayer and dropped the game
>>361446932>>361446605It was strivecucks trying the game and dropping it after one game
>>361444967Connection bars meaning nothing so you can only really play with people you trust not to lag. PC is really bad for playing with randoms.
>>361446605A lot of people got pulled in expecting some sort of savior of the genre by a bunch of internet shills that never played a french bread game before. They try it out and they find no familiar characters, they try to play the game for a bit and they see all this flying around and wonder why they can't anti air people("this game needs anti-airs" is a very common complaint) and then they fuck off. The style of gameplay of melty blood as a whole isn't something that's attractive to people. Blaming shield and moon drive is only a tip of the iceberg. Melty blood was never super popular compared to other games for a reason. The game is probably doing better than it should be given how popular the series and style of game is. When people think of a fighting game they don't think of the kind of gameplay that melty blood has. It was never going to be popular and things like shield or moon drive weren't going to change that.
Every fighting game is going to have a big player dropoff because people will try it and then decide it's not for them. You used to be able to see this with offline events as well. First week of a new release everyone would be playing it at the local. A week or two later and the game would have a much smaller crowd or be gone entirely. People try a new thing and then go back to the stuff they are used to and have invested time into. Melty blood got a huge spike of players at launch off the back of strive's popularity making people think they are "anime game" players but the game plays nothing like strive, which hardly even qualifies as a real "anime fighter" with how shitty it's airdashes are, it's no wonder they dropped it immediately, and they would have dropped it regardless of how well the netcode worked or if player rooms allowed multiple matches or if the single player had more things to do.
>>361438358The boobs are fine as they are.
>>361438358Honestly this. SF and Tekken, the most popular FGs have lots of adult women with big tits. MBTL looks like pedoshit.
i was actually kind of surprised at how much arc's tits swing around during some of her animations.>>361451538Melty is really toned down on the sexuality as a whole compared to other anime games, I don't really see how it's pedo bait when it has miyako and nothing else.
I wanted to get some fights in Melty today but it only took me ten minutes of play to realize that I'm not feeling it today...
>>361459000Don't force yourself to play empty kusoges nobody is playing right now so you're not missing out on anything.
>>361462352I think I'm just spoiled by player matches.Ranked ain't fun.
Just beat a really bad Saber player and I feel bad about it, I hope I didn't make him quit the game
So according to the FAQ they have no plans for adjusting game mechanics, lobbies, or netcode. Damn... We lost
>>361392930Anyone who lives within this circle is allowed to play with me.
>>361472186A leaf!A fucking leaf!
What days and time do you guys usually play?
>>361471992Imagine paying 50 dollars to the nips for a broken game, then when you ask them to fix it, they piss in your face.
>>361440487A lot has changed since the beta. That's why they called it a beta. A lot changed after release, too.
everyone keeps saying the game is dead but i still can't even use to training mode to do anything because i get matches too fast. is this just scrub privilege? >>361224129 ciel traded her midrange pokes for a backdash and an izuna drop
>>361439124>>361439803pretty much every game that isn't sf or tekken has always capped out around a stable 200-ish playerbase with occasional boosts around evo. this is actually a big improvement for frenchbread games, uniel was lucky if it broke 50 players most of the time and denegki was a discord game on day one. >>361440487you'd be better off playing kof if you want that style of gameplay. 2kum gets matches retardedly fast too>>361447775how did people forget that airdashers were always sideroom games for autists until mahvel shit the bed and got ntr'd dragonball?
Room is up, friends Let's playKeyword: bloodRoom name: melting PC
Top 100 S+ characters by points:Ciel 10Akiha 9Red Arc 9Shiki 9Kouma 8Miyako 8Maids 8Vlov 8Noel 7Kohaku 7Roa 5Hisui 4Saber 4Arc 4Don't believe the Ciel players' lies. Buff Arcueid.
>>361492485nah, buff Hisui.
If you could refund the game right this instant, would you?
>>361494865nahnick all stars i would but i at least enjoy melty
>>361494865No, I play it everyday. I would refund Strive however.
>>361494865The game is flawed and French Bread seems content with doing just rollback and nothing else for the online, but I don't hate the game enough to refund it.
>>361492485arc bros.... we will not rest until we get buffs....>>361492672fuck you and your j[c]
>>361494865i'd buy it twice
>>361494865no, I like it
>>361495603Here are your buffs, bro.
Why would you play Arcueid instead of Red Arcueid? Arcueid has a DP wow. Buffs now.
>>361492226Is the room not up?
>>361496937normal arc is cuter
GGs kouma wish we could have played a longer set it's so hard for me to find anyone to play as a nocturnal yuropoor.. NA discord players only play other NAs and no one on ranked goes to player match>>361497129The host disbanded it but Im available to play if you want
>>361497526I just got off sorry. Been playing for hours today so it was a good time to stop anyways.
>>361496937arc is fun, red arc is cringe
>>361496937warc is cringe
>>361496937>warcliteral cuck character>arc has multiple combo routes and cannon choice
i'd let warc rape me
>>361500280anon, you're not going to come out of that alive...
>>361492485ciels players are hard carried by their character. its so easy to rank up with her you barely need to play the game.
>>361500635what can i say, i live life on the edge
>>361492485>Saber backsteps suck>Why play hisui when you can play maids>Arc got no buffs and was already low tier>Honest Mids Micheal was too honest and got no buffsMakes sense.
You see how Archetype Earth appears during Roa's ending?This is your DLC
>>361512807So at what point did you realize that Roa's ending in Type Lumina is almost 1:1 his ending in AACC's arcade mode?
bros after my 111th win i have finally become a B rank Roa and i am very satisfiednever thought id get here but i definitely felt the gradual growth and feel like I earned it =DD
How would you change shields in the game?
>>361514474Happy for you anon
>>361514474good job, keep at it
>>361514810make them not 1 frame
>>361514810make it so the hitstop doesn't eat my inputs
>>361514810Have low shields only affect lows, not midsHave shield counters only happen on EX Shields (tap instead of hold)
>>361512807warc has hime normals so no fucking way
>>361516413which ones are Hime normals?
>>361514810I wouldn't, I already spent hours learning how to play around them, I don't want them to change and have to learn again. Nobody who dropped the game because of shield is going to pick it up again if shields get changed.
The only thing I'd change about shields is making them more minus, you can barely punish bad shields.
>>361529491>you can barely punish bad shieldsIf you couldn't punish it, it was a good shield
I miss the old moon system
It seems that Saber's "left/right" oki with j.[C] isnt a real L/R because of cross up protection or something. Somehow I didnt realize it maybe because I never played a mirror match and I kept hitting people with it. I dummy recorded the setup to practice blocking it myself and you can block either way just by holding 4, you don't need to react to which side Saber is on (unlike proper L/R mixups e.g. Arc's IAD 8 jump 2A thing). So how the fuck am I hitting people with that all the time ? I guess they dont know about the cross up protection and hold 6 instead of 4? (external link because it wont let me upload the webm) https://files.catbox.moe/m0d872.webm
>>361535490yeah i would just chalk it up to people not understanding cross up protection
>>361512807ARCUEIDS EXPOSED SHOULDERS AND ARMPITS
>>361535490people are probably picking an option aside from block because she has a lot of options out of that setup.The initial j[C] isn't a left/right and hits meaty(and is a safejump so it beats DPs)If she is facing forward she can do j[C] airdash jC for a double overhead instead of doing j[C] 2A.She can delay the j[C] to fake the overhead and do a low or a throw to beat shield attempts(this loses to mashing so some people will mash the setup)Generally I just pick a side and mash backdash rather than trying to block because fuck blocking lmao.
kohaku is so fun bros but i feel like when i play people who dont shit themselves at the sight of plant oki im gonna get blown upill just enjoy this a rank for the time being....
>>361553583Backdash can still lose to empty jump 2A into backdash OS
>>361558996yeah but nobody does backdash os because they are too busy doing anti-heat os. it's free every time.
>>361560571I do backdash OS because most stronger players stopped doing wakeup heat because most people are doing heat OS.
shiki and noels combos are so fucking long and boring
>>361557996she sucksswitch to a better character while you can
>>361563001saber, noel, ciel, miyako, shiki, hisui, vlov, arc
>>361563153saber is boringnoel is gayciel is boringmiyako is for fagsshiki is alrighthisui is for mashersvlov is gayarc is weaker than kohaku
>>361563372>saber is boringtrue>noel is gayno ur gay>ciel is boringprobably>miyako is for fagsnah u trippin>shiki is alrighthe's the lamest of the bunch>hisui is for mashersshes broken>vlov is gayprobably>arc is weaker than kohakudefinitely not
>>361560871yeah it's gonna be like that.
roa-bros, is there any use for Ex DP? I can just 236C after the dp if i want to spend meter
>>361582959623C is 5f startup, 623B is 6f startup. OSing 623C requires getting a 1frame window on the meaty 2A.
https://twitter.com/Pinku_JP/status/1463920799056732175still waiting to see punishes like this in high level play
>>361585103Holy fuck those inputs are clean as fuck
>194 players right now>80 posters ittIf this general dies, the game dies. Let's keep it up and running lads...
>>361585103For the moment my punish combo is just my BnB...
What did lumina do right?
>>361616136Being an actual anime fighter in 2021, for one
>>361616136strong movementlots of disjointed hitboxesdamage not locked behind spending meterhigh resolution sprites
Let's fight hard tonight brothers, and be thankful for every hit taken Room name: meltingKey word: blood PC
>sub 200 players on a holiday when everyone is off of workYeah it's your fault Kamone for thinking that it's fun to play with such strong shields that beat mids no matter which way you shield, fun for spectators sure, but definitely not for players since you have so much to stress out about in terms of how many options there are lol. It's less stressful blocking in Strive which should say enough about this game. Imagine thinking that Shield was such a "core part" of the old Melty games, makes sense why he's a failed vtuber wannabe
>>361620883>everyone is out eating and enjoying themselves with their family, travel is now more open and families are now finally able to have a proper thanksgiving again>MUH SHIELD
Also this game definitely doesn't feel rewarding at all because I watch the replays of people I play versus, and they win just by mashing moon skills or by mashing shield during block strings then randomly stopping sometimes to mash a button instead if they think I can "sense" their shield mashing somehow lol. Also whiffed shields are way too strong and recover way too quickly. You know there's a problem with the game when someone can shield low then immediately cancel it to do a reversal or shield again.
>>361621129Then explain why the player count is low in general. Europeans have lockdown because of COVID again, presumably people have more than 1 day off, what's everyone doing? Not playing Lumina, that's what LOL. Not even the Europoors that are dogshit at every fighting game want to touch this game with a 5 foot pole.
>>361619809melty rooms strike againconnection timed out
>>361621445Why sit here complaining about it if you don't like it? Either join the lobbies that are always up and get plenty of players or go play something else No matter how dead a game, even the most niche shit still has players and we still have an awesome time playing while seethers seethe
i don't get it guys why aren't people playing melty blood? The old one was so popular so the new one should be popular too...
>>361622506Literally just cause the online is shit and shield is polarizing.
>>361621705It because he care more about the numbers then actually playing
>>361623741My friend told me than the shield wasn't a problem and people were bitches complaining about it. He said literally nobody uses it at high level so it's basically a non-problem.
>>361624696i'm not high leveli don't use shieldi don't care if the other person uses it a lot
>>361624696nobody uses it as high level = no one is smart enough to use it at high level because it was high risk but low reward to do it in the older melty games and even UNICLR so it's ingrained in all of the OG players' minds like muscle memory. You'll see someone spamming shield on wakeup winning the next "tournament" I say "tournament" because the game will long be dead before the next tournament can happen or even get the funding for it. And even if it did it's just Scrawt using his NEET funds to whale on the game and try to keep it alive while inflating his own ego by playing against literal who's that have never touched old melty blood games in their life>>361624647>>361625250I play and I am S+, I just don't think this level of play incentivized does not bode well for the community in general therefore I believe that I will play something like tekken
>>361624696> He said literally nobody uses it at high level so it's basically a non-problemHave you never watched Scrawt play?
Ggs man and sorry to the akiha, we were playing for a bit and I have to wrap up for now
So did the PC lobby just go down? I just got back from Thanksgiving dinner and am down to play some games.
>>361625980Host one and Ill join in a bit
>>361626345steam://joinlobby/1372280/109775241014647844/765611981289292144-man lobby if 2 other anons want to get in
>>361626891There is still 1 spot left if someone wants to get inI'll probably keep the lobby up for another hour
>>361617848What games don't have strong movement and lock damage behind meter? Street fighter 5?
>>361632926Strive's movement feels fucking awful and the gatling changes means that most pokes don't lead into anything - you have to land cS or you just get a 3 hit combo with 5K 2D special.Granblue has no movement at all and big damage requires anti-air CH or using resources though resources are kinda different in that game because of cooldowns.uni movement feels like ass at all times but it does have combosi've never played sfv
>>361632926>What games don't have strong movementcompared to melty? most fighting games. even in the anime sphere, arcsys games generally restrict your air options. movement has always been one of melty's selling points and it remains so today.
>>361633195Any poke in strive leads to huge damage. Did you play it for 20 minutes on launch and dropped it?
>>3616345492K 2D special5K 2D specialfS special(fS counter leads to an actual combo)5H special(5H counter hit leads to an actual combo)6P special(even on counterhit 6P usually doesn't lead to big damage)None of these are big damage.I have nearly 400 hours in the game. cS leads to big damage. Counterhits lead to big damage. Anything into RC leads to big damage but my point was that damage is locked behind meter.
>>361626891Closed, thanks for joining and GGs
>>361637216ggs, lotta good players tonight
>>361344342>mashing 2aIsn't that all 2D fighters when it comes to "pressure games"
Unused Shiki moves, moves he had in MBAAhttps://files.catbox.moe/9vzf0x.webmhttps://files.catbox.moe/fwybmm.webm
Is Ciel top tier?
>>361656698just looks like the end part of the slide but without the slide
Arcueid needs buffs, she feels so bad to play as, most characters can do more damage more easily, her not DP specials are shit and only good for combos, it's unsatisfying as shit.
>>361660194after 22b mid screen i just charge, you get fucked so often because it puts them above you and arc has no anti airs
>manually choose Training Waiting for Ranked>asks me after every single match if I want to go back to training mode, makes me press button to skip introYes I want to go back to training mode as fast as possible, that's why I chose training waiting. FB pls
What do you do with red niggers in a different rank?
>>361667047Not play them
>>361660336does anyone have anti air normals in this gamei swear 3c just clashes no matter what
>>361667904no this is melty blood enjoy losing to every j[c] because they might as well have armor
I wonder why there's so many people with "???" names. I guess they don't want to be recognized?
Rape the maids
>>361670290japanese names usually just dont render ifg you installed an english version
https://files.catbox.moe/roo33j.webmI don't get Akiha, most matches are like this, where her set up doesn't work, I don't even try to respect that stuff, what was this player doing wrong, does he have to guess if I'm gonna shield or block?
>>361667904you're not supposed to anti-air like it's guilty gear. 3C is mostly a combo tool, it's very weak as an anti-air.Kouma 2B is probably the best anti-air button in the game but even it will clash often, but you can usually win the situation after..>>361668091get filtered
>>361678006They need to set up the ring earlier not later to bait your shield, a good akiha could've hit you low both times and blown you up.
>>361678006first ring: He didn't 2A or 22A meaty your wakeup stand shield. Was probably trying to block a wakeup DP or something? He did delayed 2A to try and beat it but you pressed BC so he lost.second ring: mistimed the 22A and it whiffed on your wakeup and didn't counterhit the stand shieldthird ring: needed to do EX ring or MS ring in order to block in time, normal ring has too much recovery to be used like that. Also could have counter MDed you and blocked.
Did they buff Arcueid yet?
>>361691347I was talking to kamone yesterday and he said arc will get air sonic in the december patch.
found this in a barcade at Tucson
how much damage should i be getting for 1 bar midscreen?
>>361665309I'm saying just take me back to training mode as soon as possible after finishing a match without me needing to press anything.
>>361711854depends on starter. from an A starter 3.7k or more.
>>361713292>only getting 3.6kit's over
>>361700120woooah... what a relic
>>361717228please tell me 3.6k isn't her actual limit
>>361718701buffs soon friend
>>361718701 the combo listed here with 236BB 214C ender does 3.8k >>361197518
>>361700120isnt that round1those signs look familiar
>>361197518I tried this a few times and it does 3778.This combo is also super annoying to do, 4c delay JC j2B is annoying, you can't buffer 214A after j2B, so the timing to input it is very tight.Everything abut Arcueid seems so bottom tier, pretty sure every other character has easier and more damaging combos.
>>361739516Oh 236 hits 2 times for more damage, but if you're too fast with the follow ups they only hits 1 time, what the hell is that, that only adds another layer of annoyance.
>friday night>no lobbyAnons...
Literally one person in rankedNo one in player lobbiesIt's over, really. I'm actually sad.
God damn I can't pick a character.
>>361746671what do you want in a character, anon?
>>361747065Someone strong with decent movement speed. I tried Kishima first and I liked him but I can't seem to play him worth a damn so I tried everyone else out (minus the maids). So far I like Roa, R. Arc and Miyako the most but can't seem to choose between them.
I need to literally fucking fish for a motherfucking match in this game because ranked is dead as fuck. Player lobbies are bugged and are unplayable right now. Everytime I play a ranked match I rarely get a rematch. I need to wait like 5 minutes between matches that do not last over 3 or 4 minutes.I'm actually fucking mad. I spend more time waiting than actually playing. I really want this game to be fucking good and fun. I really really like it but it's starting to bother me a lot how dead and desolated it has become in the small span of just 2 months.Really, I even am in a Discord for it and fighting is no fun because there's always connection issues or whatever. How am I supposed to enjoy the game like this? Playing against the CPU is not fun at all.Maybe I should accept it already. I should just get all the achievements and forget about it. I thought this could be my entrance into actually liking fighting games, and it started quite well but this just leaves a sour taste.I'm actually really sad.
Take your meds
>>361749235All I wanted is to have fun playing a game on a friday night after getting home.
>>361748885Sounds like you are either on wifi or have a shit PC if you are never getting rematches and always having connection issues even with people in Discord. Your name could even be red if people have disconnected on you a lot, which affects matchmaking as people filter out red names.
>>361749672I do not have a red name. My friends would've told me already.
>>361750354Then you must roll back a ton if people really do not want to give you a rematch.
bro just host a lobby lol
Can't wait for this general to die,
>>361739516Arc's combos are hard but her damage is better than some characters.The main thing about arcueid is that her metered options are so bad you can potentially do 214C on almost every knockdown and the 214C oki situation is really good and she doesn't lose damage for it because of how much damage rekkas add compared to doing air string.Her air normals are a lot better than a lot of other characters, though she lacks a crossup normal which kind of sucks.I don't believe the people who say she is high tier but I don't see her being bad in this game.
>>361762397I can play for a bit if a half hour set is good enough for you. Host, I'll be in within 5 minutes.
>>361762802last one for me
>>361762802lobby's closed>>361765273>>361765545how do you deal with kohaku/maids?
>>361765569I think Hisui's item toss is really good in this matchup. Kohaku can't send Hisui assist after you in neutral since the items will stop her. Kohaku's normals and specials also excel at the midrange but don't help too much against items. If you take a health lead then Kohaku pretty much has to come to you which is way better than trying to chase Kohaku as Hisui.When it comes to the oki setup I was doing you'll have to get used to reacting to whether Kohaku's doing the j.B early or not. If you're afraid of throws then there's not much you can do without a DP. Maybe AD if it has invul startup or Heat if you think I will go for throw instead of Heat OS, just pray you didn't go into blockstun first from tree or else Kohaku will have enough time to recover from throw whiff into shield.You can also try backdashing whenever you think I am going for the IAD meaty j.B/2A mix in midscreen, since my IAD will usually push you out enough that your backdash won't get caught by tree. However 2A~2C backdash OS will beat that, assuming I go for it instead of Heat OS.The crux of this matchup though is just winning neutral since once you get in and can run your knockdown gameplan then Kohaku doesn't have much she can do except risking it on guess shields or guess AD on a 2A/throw.
>>361766102so just guess then?
>>361766496it's been four weeks since they confirmed DLC and they've said nothing about it since.
>>361766184If you want to play in a high risk but high reward way yeah, usually just banking it on the right shield into immediate B+C followup works.I don't have enough data on this matchup to give you more concrete details on how to deal with Kohaku in neutral or defense as solo Hisui. You can try to stay grounded against a Kohaku that likes to j.[C] in neutral a lot and try to trip guard under them or just outside of j.[C] range and then punish the landing with 2C; this is a pretty common tactic against anybody who likes abusing j.[C]s in this game. Alternatively you can try implementing j.A as an a2a anti-air more and stuffing Kohaku in the air while learning to react to possible clashes with j.[C] with jump cancel block/shield. 623B can also make things annoying for Kohaku if she is trying to jump/airdash into you.
this game fucking sucks
>>361766685It's coming. It'll be glorious and it'll revive the game along with the first balance patch.
>>361767005no it fucking won't you retardthat ship has sailed.the PC port fucking sucks.most people got turned off by shield/moon drive already.french bread did the bare minimum when it comes to online.and DNF Duel actually started posting trailers again.it's over. and if the first character is Neco Arc I will personally fly over to japan and kill everyone still working at French Bread.
yeah I love DNF's 30 second trailers that have 5 seconds of into/outro and showcase a 10 second super. Real engaging 15 seconds of them doing a normal string into a special and then a string into a super. Shows me a lot about how the game will play.
arcueid was the melty blood all along...
>>361769849better than MBTL's trailers that are just:>character name, description, art>character quote>cut to stage>show intro with character>show autocombo/BC BC throw>show special/ex special>show moon drive cancel combo>show some clash movie>show combo into Arc Drive>character winscreen art pops upMELTY BLOOD TYPE LUMINASEPT. 30TH 2021 ON SALEGenre: 2D Fighting GameLanguages: Japanese, English, Chinese (Traditional/Simplified) Korean*voice acting is in japanese only.>game logos/age ratings>copyrights trademarks
>>361771096>this thing that shows less than the MBTL trailer is better, actuallynewgameshill pls go
>>361772664it's all fucking garbage, anon.
>>361767004>runs back to mashing full screen jam specials after getting fucking DESTROYEDlmfao
>>361762397lmfao go cry more
>>361494865No, but I would buy it only on sale though. Strive is more the game I would refund if I would ever buy it.
>>361220861sameI feel GO1 is also having a character crisishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT0-W8GyMt0
>>361197830when they put the cat back we'll see
>>361778479it's like you never learned anything from the Saber fiascocan't escape from crossing fate
>>361778632and the game will still be dead, even if your FOTM meme character gets in
>>361778662I don't even like Neco-arc. But I can assure you the cat has clout that could revive the game.
>>361778776then I can assure you that you're fucking retarded if you really believe so.
>>361778815You seem upset.
You're a newfag if you don't think the meme cat will give life to the game.
reminder these are your most likely DLC
>>361778959neco-arc won't save type lumina, vappa
>>361779581it's not a question if he can because it definitely will, it's more of how long does it last
>>361780052it's already too late
>>361780761 I wish.
I want to learn MBAACC but I feel like I'm too dumb to play anyone optimally
https://www.twitch.tv/serikamoKamone is streaming
https://www.twitch.tv/clearlamp_oThere's also a Japan vs Korea tournament of Type Lumina going on
>>361784314Tell that slant eyed fuck that his games are shit and that he should kill himself.
>>361784314Chat is pointing out some mistranslations in moves names and the game, seems like he's going to fix them.
>>361784907FIX THE FUCKING ONLINE FIRST
>>361784941Are you sure it's not your connection of pc? I mean he's answering questions from players and I haven't seen anyone complain about the online. What exactly is the problem? I could try asking him about it, but I don't really know how it's supposed to work, or what the problem is, even in fightcade playing people from europe or japan feels bad, is it supposed to work?
>>361784314someone complained about some of Vlov's combos being hard and he tested it and agreed, guess I should do the same for Arcueid.
>>361784941He can't fix other people having shitty PCs or bad internet.
Wifi indicator would be nice.
>>361779195Replace Neco-Arc with Mario
>>361785538Can you tell him to fix this bug >>361205412
>>361786996And asked him and he's gonna look into it, nice
He said he'd fix it.
>>361787765Does this really make a difference for Akiha? like is throwing a ring there good?
>>361787938Is it important? No. Does Akiha often get the chance to throw a projectile there? No. Is there a chance that it could happen and that it would influence the result of the match? Yes.
Anyone want to play?
>>361792516Can you host? Will be there in a min
>>361793141>>361792873Nvm something came up and I can't play right now sorry
>>361678006Makes me remember this old shitpost
>>361779195But powerd ciel is already in there. Same with nanaya.
You've got to be kidding me
>>361817110Why so slow? I think you just have to not lose any round.
>>361822278Yeah that's basically it I think. I have trouble against some characters though. I tried normal survival and I only reached 13.At this pace I won't get the 100% completition achievement...
Learning vlov, anyone games?