Based Dawi EditionPrevious thread: >>355035082What is /coopg/?This general is for cooperative games; titles which need more than one player and requires them to work together to win. Examples of these include Vermintide 2, Deep Rock Galactic, Left 4 Dead, Killing Floor, Payday, GTFO, and so on. Rule of three obviously need not apply. Also elves aren't allowed in here.>Latest News/Updates:Lost Planet 2: ExistsDeep Rock Galactic - Modding Support - Hotfix 1steampowered.com/news/app/548430/view/5322681655653439946[Update 35 delayed until Q4]steampowered.com/news/app/548430/view/2953787520021371365Last Patch: 9/16/2021Risk of Rain 2: Dev thoughts #21steampowered.com/news/app/632360/view/2881731277543853806Patch 184.108.40.206steampowered.com/news/app/632360/view/5440887195847238336Last Patch: 4/20/2021Vermintide 2: Chronicle- Wizardly Woessteampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/2873849978164062187[Patch Patch 4.4.1]steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/2974046742650086338Last Patch: 6/29/2021PAYDAY 2: Update 210.1steampowered.com/news/app/218620/view/2949283287689394293Last Patch: 9/2/2021Killing Floor 2: Summer 2021 Update - Interstellar Insanitysteampowered.com/news/app/232090/view/3020208005797919270Last Patch: 6/22/2021Aliens: Fireteam Elite: Patch 220.127.116.11360steampowered.com/news/app/1549970/view/2892989559300763483Last Patch: 9/15/2021GunFire Reborn:ExistsAstroneer: ExistsSecond Extinction:ExistsGauntlet: ExistsHelldivers: Exists>Future gamesWarhammer 40,000 Darktide : http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-UifdRoC8IBack 4 Blood: http://youtube.com/watch?v=riSgUcg-n_YEndless DungeonEDF 6Thunder Tier One(?)Ripout - in 2022Payday 3 -in 2023Build planners:Vermintide: ranaldsgift.comDeep Rock Galactic: karl.ggReminder to feel free to reply to the OP post with patch notes/alerting about an update if an update rolls out. Or ask/talk about other coop games.
>>355565284First for kruber feet
>>355565284it's outhttps://www.paydaythegame.com/payday2/updates/blackcat/as I called in the last thread its a recycle of PDTH's cut casino_boat which was a variation of the Yacht heist.Still fun though. Already bought. Track is better than the Golden Grin one.
fucking love recon in Ayy, Even on Extreme I never need to use an ammo box, most often get 100 health on most ammo drone use, enemies slowed and revealed 95% of the time because of the cooldown perks on reveald ayy kills, so much accuracy and stability buffs that even the widest shotgun reticule is like a tight cunt, reload twice per level outside of Warrior/preatorian killing
>be dawi>drink ale>sing cool songs>mine rocks and minerals>hang out with Azumgi and Grimgi>talk to Zharrin cause she gives me roasted food>visit Wutelgi but dont tell anyone about it>kill some raki afterwardsLife is good, dawri
I'm a range baby and an aimletI only have fun with RV, WS and BHforgot the frog, otherwise you wouldn't read this
>>355572127Frog? Should've posted a rat
I read everythingI just ignore worthless posts
>>355572127I read all blank stare frog posts
Kerillian and Kruber are the same height.
>>355572127I'm an aimlet and BH is fun with Griffon's Foot
good night coopg
>>355565284do you think they'll ever have cross platform progression for vermintide 2? don't like the idea of having to grind again.>inb4 asperger's war between console and pc fags
>>355569372Bardin is unironically good to the Elf when all she has expressed is her "sympathy" after pushing his buttons.
>>355580461Outcast Engineer has some conversations with her about his family that are pretty sweet. He says Kerillian would have liked his wife.
>>355580461She is a bit of a sperg but the dwarf would always shield the elf Even after getting shot a few times
>>355580332No, they wont ever. Main reason being performance related, the console versions have smaller waves with more health per enemy and thus have a seperate balance.So either they dumb down the pc version or they make it 30fps on console, neither of which is a good solution.
Nice to see civilian mode come back in the new heist
>>355582694There are funny bugs with it apparently, you can go loud and still be in civilian mode making you casually stroll through bullets
The reach on halberd heavy1 is fucking phenomenal, genuinely feels like a long polearm.
is chaos wastes dead? nobody ever joins my cata games there...
>>355587176Most people who do Cata CW tend to have their own premade groups, via the Vermintide discords or among their friends.
>>355584515>making you casually stroll through bulletsit's just good business
Any guides on doing the divine intervention GK challenge?
>>355596090Wait for Deathrattler to charge and whack him with your blessed blade. hitting him early while he's in the buildup to charging doesn't count, he needs to be on the move.
>>355557508it might be aggroed on to the IB, but the hit can still hit you if IB and you line up/stack up.Which is why a good IB will stand still and tank while teammates pick away at the sides.A shit IB will dodge all around even though hthey don't need to and will wind up getting teammates hit.I'v had similar shit to your webm happen, only 20 storm verming stacked up and the one in back does an overhead from the safety of others. Literally using player tactics.>>355570048top kek>>355572918>uma delicia>>355575550the absolute balls on this one
>>355584515Another weird bug(?), you don't get xp for the coke or weapon bags if you secure them in the lifeboat instead of chucking them in the ocean.
>>355587176if you want cata frames go to a discord or something or rng it with bots. cata cw matchmaking is a ghost town
>>355580461She has a line when Bardin heals her that this doesn't make them friends. What a fucking cunt, honestly.
>>355580461Bardin's VA is good, doesn't wow me, but he has some incredibly good lines. I love the one to Kruber if you're doing Empire in Flames where his ending line is >"We are drengbarazi, brothers in battle. Your grudges, are my own."
>>355599902ah didn't need yer help ya know
>>355600939>This is bad. Not the worst I've ever seen, but bad. Real bad.Best delivery
>game literally waits until i hit a boss chest to spawn a horde and then magically 6 plague monks behind meVT2 is the most off the wall bullshit game i've ever played
that line salts gives kruber about leaving his sword or what ever to him>to show that I mean no harm?>no to show that I liked youor something like that, I only heard it once.
>>355605326[autistic plague screeching]
>>355607131>Saltz: Shall I die, Kruber. I want you to have my sword of office.>Kruber: ...Uhh why? So people think i'm a Witch Hunter?>No...So that people think that I liked you.>I...I don't know what to say to that, Sir.I think it only plays during Dark Omens and Chaos Wastes expeditions.
>>355607373yeah, that one, the deliver on that really struck me, right in the feels
>>355607593Saltz and Kruber play really well off each other. Even their more humorous dialogues stand out.>Saltz: I want you to know, Kruber, that I think no less of you for your recent... defection. >Kruber: Defection? We're all on the same side. >The same side as the Bretonnians? I think not. Some of them actually bathe. >So do I. Always have, circumstances permitting. >It's like I never knew you at all.I think it's just because the voice actors mesh really well with each other.
What's the cuntiest line a character says in Vermintide?I think entering the horrible massacre at Ussingen just for Kerillian to say "well the trees are OK" wins out there, it even pisses Kruber off.
>Back 4 blood is not only not big enough to warrant a /vg/ thread but nobody is playing itRip?
>>355609787Too expensive imo
What are some fun weapon combos for grail knight? My current are mace+sword and sword+shield, maybe it's just because I've used them so much but they feel a bit boring, so I'm looking for something different.
>>355611927You basically always need a shield so you don't get instakilled by flamerats and ratlings with no gapcloser and no range so just take whichever shield weapon you hate the leastYou could try Executioner Sword because with Grail Knights passive you can actually one-shot Chaos Warriors with a charged attack.
Just heard the elf humming for the first time, immediately walked outside and shot the fucking tree
>>355611927For something off-meta, try the greatsword. GK's kit covers the greatsword's weakness against armoured targets, and lets you cleave away with a big ol sword. Fun and satisfying. Virtue of the Ideal for more power/cleave for horde sweeping, or Knighty Temper so your crit heavies just delete a chunk each time.
>>355608041>I shall now sing a song to keep our spirits up.>NO master dwarf, you shall not.Always gets me.
>Get on with it, gwai lo, I have things to do
>>355608041it still boggles me how salts VA can mash in so much emotion into his lines.There is so many likes where I'm like wow, that's really good fucking delivery, I really feel it.From sad stuff, to funny stuff.Like genuine holding back anger when people were talking about some shit>Yes...fasinating, thank you for this insightful discussionor>keep your guard up>You dar--.......Thank you kruber, I shall heed your advice!you canreally hear frustration and gritting teeth holding thimself back, then trying to muster a composed and neutral reply.He has so many voicelines like that, it's really amazing. Genuinely possibly the best VA I heard in video games.
>>355607373wrong line, Sir Kruber's response is:>You do know I've already got a better sword than you, right?
>>355616103All of his ult lines are fantastic, too, for every career.>THE CRIME IS YOUR FOUL EXISTENCE, THE SENTENCE IS DEATH>ROAR MIGHTY DUO>REPENT REPENT R E P E N T
>be me>be shitter>wanna play bh>try falchion, axe and falchion, flail, nothing works for me>try billhook>automatically improve by a billion percent
>>355616720Yeah, as I said, it's really an excellent job.Other VA do their job, it's not bad.But Salts is just, beyond what I typically get in games. Really a lot of variety of emotional delivery.
>>355617176I think Kruber and Bardin do great jobs conveying character, too. I like how consistent jolly little dawi is. I think the writers could tone down the constant Sigmar and heresy spam, though.
>>355617650yeah as I said, I think they are doing a good job, nothing to complain about really, but salts some how goes beyond that.>I think the writers could tone down the constant Sigmar and heresy spam, though.Whatever do you mean master dwarf?
>>355618719Nothing much, Grimgi, faith and zeal are perfectly fine, but doesn't it get a bit repetitive to always go "Sugmar this" or "Sugmar that"? It kind of devalues the name.
>>355618719Every second word is bit cringey, also they use heresy incorrectly. Although so does all of 40K.
>>355611927Greathammer + greatsword
>>355616430he has both
thoughts on Coruscation Staff?
>>355620216That build sounds great
D W A R F H U N T I N G
>>355609787I'm playing it and I'm loving it
>>355609787>$60 or $100 for some skins and unknown DLC>special spam>strong cards locked behind 30+ hours of grinding>randoms so bad the bots are better>cringe dialogue and bad designs>short, tiny levels some of which are recycled and just going through older ones but backwards>pvp is shit>melee overpoweredThere you go I just simulated an entire thread.
RAW MIGHTY DUEL
>$60 is too expensiveYou guys have been playing DRG too much
Bots in Chaos Wastes is literal proof no one at Shitshark actually plays this game
>>355624948Too expensive for something with that kind of quality
>>355550571You're dumb as fuck.UMP is just flat out better in every aspect than any of the rifles.Melee sucks donkey dick without cards, and you could just use those cards to buff your ammo/surv/damage.Melee is not worth any investment and its bad without investment. Use the bash knife, its better than cardless melees.M1A is pretty broke too, shit shreds specials
>>355624948$60 for shit is pretty expensive, remant: from the ashes is pretty but thats not a $40 game that $30 game, but from i heard about b4b, its not even worth $30, its a $20 game
i shan't be buying DRG until they've added cute femdwarves
>>355624948Why would I pay more for a game that's worse than games that cost less? For $60 it better be one of the best experiences in video games.
>>355630635>For $60 it better be one of the best experiences in video games.
>l4d2 is rapidly gaining players thanks to b4b being shitCant believe valve south did it again. Geniuses.
>>355626393>1000 headshots with mwp as OEHere's your proof.
>>355624948aside from Sekiro I haven't spent more than $20 on a game in nearly five years.
>>355631689i only still play left 4 dead because i modded all the survivors into bigass tiddy waifus in lingerie/bikinis
>>355624948>>355623159>>355609787xbox game pass has it, $10 a month, first month $1 normally. i had a free month notification on my pc. if you don't care about actually keeping access to it and want it for cheap.
Hurry! This way!
>>355635842I replaced them with my favourite hololive vtubers
>>355635325Same but with Doom Eternal
>>355637062I've bought chiv2, doom eternal, vt2 and dlcs,hl:a, tsushima, preordered AoE4 and many more games,but sure as fuck not gonna spend $60 for this massive shitpile
>>355565284based so based wow BASED SO BASED that dwarf is so B A S E D
>>355638359Is that a leak of one of the new portrait frames???
>>355575550This is what stormvermin loincloths are hidingimagine...
>>355600939>>355603673I'm a big fan of the "don't bloody miss then" line when saltz misses a bomb.
I'm sick of this "spawn enemies directly behind/on top of you" shit
>>355607373>>355607131It's a reference to the movie Sharpe's Rifles, where Tim Bentinck delivers the same line to Sean Bean.>>355616430That's just for Grail Knight.
>>355608474>K: Did you see that travesty back there?>M: I did. Poor sods strung up from that tree. It ain't right.>K: I'm not talking about the mayflies.>M: Then what?>K: The tree! Poor thing, twisted and knocked out by dark magic.>M: Some days you're... you're a struggle, elf. By Sigmar I want to hit the elf when I hear that line.
>>355641209I want to hit elf with my cock.
>>355616720>HOLY SIGMAR, BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY
>>355616720He says raw might duel.
outcast engineer Bardin is secrely cousin OkriBardin died trying to Slayer leap out of bounds>>355641495shut the fuck up fatshark
>>355598186I don't think you understood my point, ratclicker has a mechanic that makes individual enemies deal less damage the more enemies are aggroed on youIB pulled aggro on everything so even the slightest touch would've chunked my health because nothing was aggroed on me
>>355612184>need a shieldno you don't pussy
>>355638112How is chiv2? It was fun in pubs especially objectives, I even stainee myself a bit with euro comp scene, clans and shit but burned out pretty fast once every halfcompetent player started doing roflcopting ballet.
>>355642002Well, attacks from elites and monsters have actual hitbox and not your usual rats where you can dodge and no one will get it instead, CW uppercuts are the worst attacks in the game for how fast and not telegraphed they are in contrast to overheads
>>355642346It's her own undoing for using flamestaff.>>355617650>Be mOrE cArEfUl GoReKsOn
>>355642346Amazing.Genius.God.This reminds me of trolling with firebug in KF1.The retards kept throwing grenades at scrakes so I just shot at them with the flamethrower and they exploded on the spot. Good times.
>>355642417It's alright.Clocked about 130 hours before burning out, never did the ballet shit but unironically spent too much on perfecting combos and countering. They need to keep the playerbase high to prevent mordhauification/elitism.But it will happen sooner or later.The game was at its peak at launch, like evey pvp game.
>>355617650"muh heresy" was believable in the first game, but with the amount of ridiculous shit they're doing it just feels pathetic now for Saltzpyre to go "muh heresy" while hanging out with shades and witches and being unable to keep Kruber and Sienna on a leash
>21 days before U35
>>355608041why does saltzpyre hate bathing so much
>>355644373>21 days before U35>14 days before U5Feels good to play both of the best coop games
>>355644373if they don't add cute femdwarves I shan't be buying
Is there a /b4b/ or do we use this?
>>355645856Just use this.Not enough people to make a b4b gen, because anon are poor (60$) and have no friends (randos/qp is unplayable)
I like swiftbow over longbow. Its only disadvantage that its bad for killing armored rats but is better than slowly peppering berserkers.
>>355646358stay in champion, please
>>355646523Swiftbow is preferable to longbow in Chaos Wastes since they have about same damage when upgraded.
>>355646618>stay in chaos wastes, please
Longbow feels like shit because of the delay between shooting and being able to put it away againIt's for fags who want to sit 20m back shooting their teammates
>>355646358CUNNY?! I will overcome I WILL
>>355646776That's what i mean, it beats than being unable to kill specials with hagbane. I only shoot when i see special or boss.
>>355646689You say this as if chaos wastes isn't ez mode and people who only play standard missions on cata aren't practically legendlets.
>>355647054>retry until you get chain lightning and ranged explosions How is this fun?
>>355648161>retry until you get chain lightning and ranged explosionsDo legendlets really...
How will Saltzpyre pull off this look
>>355646776swiftbow does more FF than anything, it is dogshit and only attracts the mentally impaired>ARGH SKAVENSLAVES ME UNLEASH 100 ARROWS IN THEM>MAYFLIES HELP ME, ARE YOU BLIND? A STORMVERMIN OVERHEAD STRUCK ME, SO UNFAIRnot to mention anything remotely dangerous takes forever to die from peashooter
>>355649243he gets jacked
>>355649373He's talking about chaos wastes, but only with chain lightning and explosions on crit.Obviously everyone with more than 2 brain cells know that swiftbow is the worst ranged weapon in the game, even behind blunderbuss, drakefire and firestorm staff
>>355649373>use longbow>useless at close range>use hagbane>don't do shit against armor>use swiftbow>no downsidesSimple as
>>355649953>useless at close rangeYou have a sword you mong
>>355646776delay??? have you even tried kruber longbow???
>>355650072>I-I don't need to mix in ranged attacks with my melee anywaycope
>>355650153Not him but I can weave in fully charged bolts on cata. If you can't draw a fucking bow you might want to reconsider your approach to melee
>>355650346that's fine except if a beastman suddenly decides to charge at you you don't have time to put your bow away before you get hit
>>355650346please don't give him attention
>>355650153Not him bit I can shoot and reload my gun in cata while fighting a horde. If you can't draw a fucking bow you might want to reconsider your approach to melee
>>355650447If you have time to shoot and reload in melee then you are not in melee
>>355650505Not him but I can push the horde, equip my pistols, unload into the 3 plague monks and switch back to melee just in time before I get hit. If you can't draw a fucking bow you might want to reconsider your approach to melee
>>355650641You can shoot in melee, if you have time to reload you are not in meleeLongbow takes a shitton longer than pulling out your gun and shooting something
personally I'm quite fond of cuntsman bow's slow draw, makes me better at dodging shit because of how vulnerable a slow charging ranged weapon makes meand having good aim while under pressure is just so satisfying and also rewarding thanks to the headshot talent
>>355650718Not him, but I can just dash with handmaiden, very slowly draw my bow and slowly land a perfect headshot on the blightstormer and switch back to melee just in time for the horde. If you can't draw a fucking bow you might want to reconsider your approach to melee
>>355650982You are not in melee if you have time to do that
>>355651026Oh but I am, it just shows that you never played handmaiden because you don't know this.
>>355651096You are not. If you have time to draw the slow as fuck longbow and switch back to your melee weapon to block before you get hit, you are not in melee.
>>355651164I'm next to 2 stormvermin and 12 clan rats.I'm invisible you fuckwad
>>355651381>dropping aggro on your teammatesYou are the least in melee possible; nothing is targeting you.
>>355651164Not him but I can say SIGMAR very loudly, push away every enemy, switch to my crossbow, slowly aim down the sight, headshot the jumping assassin, reload, and switch back to my trusty billhook with enough time on fervency to cut up the horde. If you can't draw a fucking bow you might want to reconsider your approach to melee
>>355651581>drop aggro on your teammates that are using melee weapons and more than capable of dealing with horde>I take on the responsibility to get rid of the blightstormer that can and will instawipe our team. >I am praised by my teammates that I saved them from dying
the biggest red flag for WHC players is when they use rapier but don't have wild fervour, this combination guarantees that they'll be a massive shitter
>>355651591Crossbow is faster than the longbow yes.
>>355651783>longbow has no reload>crossbow with reload is fasterWelcome to /copeg/
>>355651865Yes.Crossbow has no charge or delay after shooting.
>>355652349Longbow has no reload.It's twice as fast as crossbow with reload.
>>355652526False. Try swapping back to melee after each shot.
>>355652619I did and it's twice as fast.
>>355652727It is not. Crossbow is actually not slow at all.
>>355652761Longbow is faster than shooting and reloading xbow.
>>355640663>How could you miss them all Kruber?!>I saw one limp away..
>>355640738This only happens in 99% of the cases when someone runs far ahead since the director makes an estimate of the "group center" when spawning shit. The other 1% are event spawns when hugging some weird corner or where they always spawn.
If Saltzpyre gets Priest career would he bless the marriage between kruber and kerillian?
>>355641209She has another fucking tree pity line? The one I heard it goes roughly:>K: At least the trees are still standing..>M: The trees? THE TREES? Thousands dead and you think about the TREES?>S: Careful Kruber, there's no winning in this>M: THE TREES! Every time I start to think she has a blessed heart..
>>355616720>>ROAR MIGHTY DUOWhat "duo"? Why is a single barrel gun a "duo" or what am I missing here?
>>355621217In pubs highly situational, fountain works well on ledges and drops, shotgun is great against horde and zerkers up close, but you sacrifice any chance for mid-high range special removal. In premade groups can be absolutely busted if people can keep monster/horde in flames with shields, staggering ults or just pushes and smart positioning. I still don't remember what you need to take, VF or FF for it on BW.
>>355642346Hearty kek. It's not even obvious to the Sienna player it was malicious.
>>355653868>one is former imperial citizen who is now a traitor and filthy bretonian who venerates bretonian deity and not sigmarStrike 1>the other is suspect for ambushing imperial forces, uses magic, worships elven deities, refuses to submit to any imperial scrutiny or even show a hint of respect towards proper authorities STRIKE 2>anon asks to marry these two heathens nay HERETICS BY A SERVANT OF SIGMAR (ULRIC?)THE CRIME IS YOUR FOUL EXISTENCE THE SENTENCE IS DEATH
>>355654221It's a specific line for a talent you can pick; double shotted.It makes you fire a second bullet.
>>355654221Hold F and look closely at the gun you are holding.
>>355654221It's a double barrel pistol?
>>355611927Bret sword or M&S and Exec. I like Bret most right now due to its versatility, movement boosting heavies and parrying while holding heavies. Does excellent soft horde clear without needing push attacks.
>>355653868He will bless marriage between him, Catrinne and Sienna.
>>355654221it has 2 barrels in it's base design, 2 strikers and 2 triggers if you look at it from the side
>>355654578I hate the horde clear on the bret.S&M forever
>>355654387>>355654502>>355654569>>355654679Well that was painfully obvious. I'll try looking down the barrels next time and try to avoid pulling any triggers while at it.
>>355654746do you know the bret horde clear combos? It's actually pretty good for hordes if you use it right
>>355611927I like bretshield and its moveset, most of the times I use it for everything since you have nice combos against horde and against single elite/special. Without any damage reduction talents and with really open window on ults I eat a lot of shit so stagger thp with it is absolutely great. You also have talent that boosts stamina regen and push-block angle that synergizes with shield weapons. And for armored elites and monsters I have sword.exe with swift slaying.
>>355654746>>355654906Funny that I loathe S&M for overreliance on pushattacks and heavies with short reach while bretsword is my favourite weapon for Merc and FK right now. It has reach and flexibility, gast horde combo, slower horde combo, single target combo, great at monster soloing. Only problem I have when I want to charge heavy and being harrassed by monks most of the time they hit me resetting heavy.
>>355655405I never had range problems with S&M.What combo do you use for slave, and mixed hordes?
>>355654746what exactly do you hate about it? its combos are simple, it cleaves through armor, it staggers like a hammer, its heavies are safe because of the block mechanic, it has good movetechI get that you have a preference between M&S and Bret, but outright hating the other top tier choice?
>>355653868he will have no choice. it's necessary for the triple alliance between the Empire, Athel Loren, and Bretonnia.
>>355656129>>355654746also it turns out Bret has longer dodge distance than M&S lmao
>>355656129I guess the fact that you have to combo weird shit like block canceling and such to have optimal clear while S&M is just funny push attack heavy attack spam that even a toddler can do. And boy I like being a toddler
>>355656378the only combo that requires block canceling is when fighting multiple elites so you only want to use heavy1 and heavy2for horde you use light>heavy chainfor single target you start with pushtab then chain heavy>light
>>355646776longbow is great you faggot
>average trannymaiden player
>>355656097I start with either pushattack or heavy depending on distance, then go for heavies while moving, if I feel too restricted then pushattack again followed by heavies again.
>>355646776>delay between shooting and being able to put it away againAnon this gets compensated by the fact that longbow takes significantly fewer shots to kill anything important. Especially with WS bloodshot proc'd, longbow kills most elites and specials in one "bodyshot" and those are all you should care about shooting anyway.>It's for fags who want to sit 20m back shooting their teammatesNo it's for elf players that want to at least attempt to fill a purpose.
>>355657726I tried this and its garbageMaybe it works on champion
>>355656587For dense hordes you can go for faster light1-light2-blockcancel, sometimes more safe because it's faster and you are not vulnerable during heavy2 windup
>>355657849Nothing can compensate for a weapon feeling like ass to use
>>355657726you're not supposed to spam heavies, you have perfectly good lights that cleave
>>355659269Ass gamer uses normal weaponNormal gamer uses ass weaponIt makes sense
>>355659269Anon believe me, I started with swiftbow. Swiftbow is really fun when you're starting out and it still kills everything in 1-2 shots. When you get to cata and it takes 3 whole seconds to kill a single elite and it loses its ability to hold off hordes on its own, it falls off hard. The only thing it still excels at by cata is berserkers and your other ranged weapons are still plenty serviceable for them too.
>swiftbow is great on recruit
WHERE ARE YOUR CIRCLES MAYFLY? ARE YOU BAD AT THE GAME? I'M BASICALLY SOLOING AND CARRYING YOUR LUMBER ASSES POGU POGU POGU
okay we established that shitbow is shit, what about volley crossbow on elf?
>>355660420But swiftbow doesn't feel like assI'd rather kill elites with my melee than have to spend time pulling out the shitty longbow
>>355661102I want to breed and mingle with her so hard.
>>355659269>Nothing can compensate for a weapon feeling like ass to useAs a Slayer main I can agree with this. The Great Hammer is a piece of shit since they artificially added switch delay on it. While QQ switching double great hammers was top-fun I understand the need for it but when I mix other weapons like Great Axe or Coghammer I feel the delay when I need to switch fast in a hectic situation. It's horrible.
>>355616103>it still boggles me how salts VA can mash in so much emotion into his lines.The man has spent 2-3 decades as a radio voice actor (and for one of the most prestigious radio shows in Britain), so he's one of the most experienced voice actors in the industry right now.
>>355649562>GetsVictor is already jacked as fuck. He just doesn't show it because vanity displeases Sigmar
>>355661102>Elf has the moonfire and javelin>Gets relentlessly mogged by a Reiklander with a longbow
>>355659269>retard resorts to muh weapon feel badpottery
>>355646776>Longbow feels like shit because of the delay between shooting and being able to put it away againThere's less than a second between shooting and stowing your weapon. If you can create a meter of space, you should be able to shoot safely, then engage in melee.>>355650146Kruber longbow is kino. You just have to learn how the various draws impact power, speed, and distance travelled.I rarely use the zoom mode for that reason, except when doing long-range sniping.
>>355654674Catrinne will be cucked in that marriage and watch as Sienna gets all his attention.
>>355661451Of the non-dlc set Volley Crossbow is fine. It can easily burst down a special or stormvermin, mag dump through intervening enemies to get to that special in a pinch, and as a volley crossbow has good monster damage to supplement monster killing between Infiltrates. Was a little better off when Shade could reap big ammo off a horde with bloodfletcher to just keep shooting. Currently is overshadowed by the moonfire and the javelins.
>>355653868Yes and he will baptize Kerillian's Skaven children.
so what was the ""leak""? I tried finding it in the stream but it's just normal gameplay
>>355667302The whole point is that the weapon feels like ass. Nothing more to it.
>>355600939>"Be MoRE CaREFuL GorEkSsOn"That one always makes me laugh
>literally no one playing back4bloodcome on man, I spent a dollar on this someone play with me
>QP>Moonfire Elf>Moonfires ambient mobs>Moonfires mobs you're two feet from attacking explicitly to take the kill or just farm damage from it>Moonfires hordes of fanatics just to farm more damage>Moonfires specials, monsters, bosses>Moonfires teammates>Finish level>Still not top damage because they're fucking retarded and useless when doing anything but moonfiring enemies that aren't fighting backI fucking loathe elf players. Moonfire is cancerous but Briar Javelin is even worse, Javelin elves play identically to Moonfire elves i.e. cunty except Javelin elves get all the green circles regardless of skill because that weapon is laughably overtunedHonestly all the weapons in the Chaos Waste DLC are horrible. Ducktoes/Moonfire/Coruscation all legitimately make the game less fun to play, Sp/Sh is boring and yet another melee weapon for a character that desperately needed another ranged option, and Trollhammer is decent assuming Bardin isn't constantly FFing you with it or using it to kill hordes of non-threatening Skavenslaves, so really it's never decent.
>SO UH WHY DO YOU BELIEVE AS YOU BELIEVE?>The very question..>Sigmar is [long reply]>MM YES, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT
>>355671970>buying trannyfied l4d for 60$hard pass for me dawgmaybe when its 20$.
>>355672486>proceeds to hagbane poison you and unload dozen of rubbertipped swiftbow arrows in you>sister picked ironbark/blackvenom thicket, places right in front of you, your melee attack bounces of rows of petunias while stormvermin rakes you in half across them>: ^) eksdee seething manlet
>>355673335its one dollar
>>355673335>H8 trannies!>But it's A-OK at 1/3 the price!Loving Every Laugh. Lets hear the excuses.
>>355672486Moonfire Elves make me seethe when I play cata, but they're otherwise massive shitters. Javelin Elves are honestly more retarded than Moonfire Elves, probably because their weapon is so strong. They can get green circles, but they'll also get downed 4 times a round.If anything, what I've noticed is that the more OP a career is on paper, the worse its players are - and the more it encourages bad plays. I'd like to think I'm a good player, but I know that Elf turns me into a retard who chases green circles.
>>355673370i'm gonna need a source on that
Bros I just want to play a game with four outcast engineers
>>355673889Xbox Game pass is a dollar right now, and B4B is on there.
>>355673958$1 to rent the game for the monthIt's an alright deal considering the game has 0 replayability so you just drop it after 20 hours.
>>355608474Her opening line in Against The Grain where she mentions that any of the survivors they came to save who cause trouble for her will regret it is up there.I'm an elf main but she can be a real bitch. And she's ironically probably one of the friendliest Asrai in the setting too kek (sorta like how Bardin just acting like Gimli or something makes him the least spergy dawi ever)
>>355674539>sorta like how Bardin just acting like Gimli or something makes him the least spergy dawi everThe mere fact that he hasn't declared a grudge against any of the others makes him the least spergy dawi ever. Some of the things the others say would be legitimate causes for a grudge.
>>355674539>>355674731All of the good Warammer(40K) games ignore the stupid fucking lore. If it was lore accurate the U5 would have all shot eachother on sight.
>>355674731Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. Him acting like a standard LotR or D&D dorf and not giving Kerillian brain damage for disrespecting him makes him borderline saintly by dawi standards.
>>355674731All of the characters in vt2 are racist.Bardin is the most subtly racist.
>>355674731>The mere fact that he hasn't declared a grudge against any of the others Bardin has a personal grudge book in his quarters and the Lohner journals imply that it's pretty likely that Bardin has records against the other people in Taal's Horn KeepThough the Lohner journals also say that Bardin's declared the U5 under his grudge protection or whatever by calling them drengbarazi and dawri so whoever kills them is going to die horribly. I'm not super well versed in Warhammer lore, it's possible that both of those things could be true at the same time
how do i deal with several plague monks at once as a slayer if i have no bomb
>>355676779die in battle and fulfill slayer oath
It's really comfy listening to Felix and Gotrek audiobooks while running screaming bells for red skinwish all of them were uploaded on audiobookbay though
>>355677393I should do this with Malus Darkblade while grinding out ShadeHonestly, I don't even find Shade as fun as the other Elf classes, it's just the only one with decent cosmetic unlocks and Druchii are my favorite faction
>>355677393How fucking good are they. I wish they came out faster.
>>355676779take the stagger on F talent
>>355677393I hope the zealot skin we're getting is a Felix cosplay, plz Fatshark
>>355680376It will be more animals glued to him
>>355676779>Opportunist Great Axe staggers>Warpick OHK, dodge between heavies, eating a hit or two is OK>Great Hammer Opportunist heavies also stagger but a bit annoying mostly slapping them around>Extra Stagger on Leap, wait until all 3 are in range>Throwing axes actually do their job here>Block initial quick slaps they do, don't need much stamina, then counter attack and dodge their slow ass block breaker attack and hack them into paste>Circle lunge and dodge around them with Dual Axes push-attack>Bomb>Strength pot or Power pot then just bully stagger them with anything>Final coward option: Hold block and dodge backwards so your ranged buddies can deal with it
>>355666067>The man has spent 2-3 decades as a radio voice actor (and for one of the most prestigious radio shows in Britain), so he's one of the most experienced voice actors in the industry right now.It really fucking shows.
>>355680791The fuck are they gonna do for slayer, almost every slayer ever is just a shirtless dude with tattoos and a mohawk. Ungrim outfit? Seeing a Slayer in armour will feel wrong.
>>355678258https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frt19QcsnQMThis guy does a surprisingly good job for a Youtube audiobook.
>>355681610They'll take a slightly different approach to his tattoos
>>355677393That good? I just read some up to vampireslayer
>>355681610proper mohawk for starters, bardin's existing one is laughably small
>>355683793didn't really followed the book order and started with this, despite some of moments where scene abruptly changes into character remembering something it is still very enjoyableDon't really want to go back to 40K books just yethorus heresy is hit and miss for, could not get into Ciaphas Cain or Yarrick books, loved the 13th legion books though
>>355683793The audibooks only go up to vampireslayer haha, that's the next one to come out. But there's also like, two end times books done as well. But yeah the narrator is great, has amazing range. Check out the samples. https://www.blacklibrary.com/series/gotrek-felix/trollslayer-mp3-2019.html
>>3556838032 mohawks are always better than 1
>>355683803I'd like to see you do better umgi with what little pork fat we have in the keep, azumgi keeps hogging half of it for that moustache of his and if my mohawk was any longer it would just be falling down constantly. Don't want the womenfolk thinking I can't keep it up, I'm not yet in those years...
>>355676779dodge and block
Is ratclick a furrybait game?
>>355691754no, if you want furrybait up to 4 player coop FPS you have Gunfire Reborn
>>355691754YesYou bait the subhuman scum into buying it and then all they find is endless murder on ratmen, and sometimes minotaurs
>>355694579basically means that furries flock to the game because it has something they like, typically anthro characters
>>355694806i wish flamethrower was good and melted everything like it should
>>355691754THINKTHE GAME HAS GOATMEN AND RATMENOF COURSE IT IS
>>355694885I'm sure a lot of furries flock to it judging by steam profiles and the art is has spawned but it's not a typical furry craze game.
>>355691754no but total war warhammer 2 istry /twg/
https://www.vermintide.com/news/developer-update-quality-of-lifeCan open multiple chests at once, new tab screen, new mission screen.
>>355695052We had that a while. It's not fun when it turns meta and every game is just a wall of fire incinerating hordes and chaos patrols alike. The flamethrower is wholly unsatisfying from the fact you don't get to see your enemies die. You just click, get blinded by a big yellow flame and the enemies that die are just gone. Pretty shit honestly.This is why I want the flamer to be an applied DoT weapon you occasionally shower new enemies with while hacking up the soon burning to a crisp enemies in melee.
>>355695330I might actually empty my horde if I can open hundreds at the same time
>>355695560no it should kill chaos warriors better than a handgun
>>355695330>Open Uuuugghhhh only 5?
>>355695330>multiple chests at onceAnd it only took three years.NOW HOW ABOUT BATCH SALVAGING YOU USELESS FUCKS.
>>355696207You can double click items to fill salvage window instantly.
>>355695330>steam friends will see I'm a legendletnoooooo my comfy legend days are over
>>355695330This mission select screen looks fucking atrocious compared to the current one.I just hope it's a stats screen and doesn't actually replace the current one.
>>355695932Just cheat if you don't care for any kind of resistance.
>>355695330>LOOOL WE'RE STILL DOING THE MISSPELLING GAG SO QUIRKY AND RANDOMsigh
>>355696367But you can only salvage 9 items at a time. That's 40+ salvages if you want to clean your inventory after hitting the item limit.
>>355695330still no deed lobbywonderful, more faggots trying to hold you hostage in QP and begging for deeds
>>355697971Deeds are fun, stop being bad. It’s free loot and encourages you to make friends, something I’m sure you struggle with.
>>355698953not when I'm trying to do QP challenges
>>355681610Something like this could be cool I guess.
hmm I kinda have a feeling they'll release Victor just after the update, something tells me they'll do a shenanigan similar to Outcast engi where they announce it alongside the update and then make it available a day after.
>>355699712Deeds don’t stop you from completing challenges, and if you’re talking about the shillings quests for doing quick plays, you’re retarded for caring about shillings, and you can still quick play deeds anyway.
>>355699995I’d buy it even though I’m going to buy them all anyway
>>355700691if I'm retarded for caring about shillings then you're retarded for caring about deeds
>>355698953>Deeds are fun, stop being badI've done 100 of them, about 14 of them with group every single one of them ended with silence, nobody cares for your social aspect,just same sperg dragging his feet and constantly begging for deeds in QUICKPLAYwhat is so hard to grasp here?that is why I want a nice lobby panel for deeds, if I want to do them for challenge I would press DEEDS button
>>355700952No ones going to go “whoah cool that guy has a 2k shillings hat literally anyone can get” can confirm they’ll suck your epeen over deed frames though. Too bad you’ll never know the feeling. But I get it, those modifiers must be scawy for a leglet. A shame you can’t just get shillings hats/skins out of chests or something. Oh wait you fucking can
>>355701547>WAOH I GRINDED 500 DEEDS I AM SO SKILLED AND EVERY FEMBOY WANTS TO SUCK ME OFF WAOHhave sex
>>355701324And I’ve done 6-700 of them, made countless friends along the way. Who went on to help me get other frames done like weaves and now am never short of a group whenever I launch the game. What challenge? They barely add any, even the triple modifiers are still easier than a standard cata game most of the time. It’s literally just a free chest. The reason they haven’t added deed lobbies is because spergs like you are the only ones that have a problem with it. The ONLY change they should add, is let people join games mid-deed and that’s it.
>discord trannies are now called friends lol
>>355701739Keep grinding those daylies buddy>5 shillings have been deposited into your account
>>355702819Well I’m not American so they’re not trannies, and it’s a co-op game. But enjoy playing alone and getting mad whenever someone has the audacity to suggest co-operating on something
>>355699995He should be buck fucking naked with only his beard covering his massive swinging dongliz
>be saltz>see sigma males destroying chaos patrol>burst in to "help">eat a 100 health hit from mauler>panic F>get put down for retardation by a cuntslayer>refuse to elaborate
>>355702080I am glad you have a happy ending in your fairy tale, the fact that you need bring up your "friends" suggest they are nothing more than acquaintances at best>What challenge?Okri challenges? You know one of the reasons for people to even bother to grind them>The reason they haven’t added deed lobbies is because spergs like you are the only ones that have a problem with itI just literally said I want separate place where I can actually get to do them, why should random Joe join a lobby only for someone to either wordlessly switch to deed or wait until someone takes a bother to host it?being a cunt doesn't you make a sociable person just annoying
>>355706176>>355706176Literally HOW is that being a cunt? Offering up a deed to see if people want to do it? You know how rare the drop chance is on them? One in 20 chests or so AT BEST if someone offers up one of their deeds, they’re literally being nice you fucking idiot and if you don’t like it guess what, you can a) decline it and suggest something else, or b) LEAVE THE LOBBY holy fuck you people are retarded. Stop thinking that everyone’s out to use you and just play the game god damn. Deeds were implemented to encourage community which if you’re playing alone is something you should definitely take advantage of. The amount of times I’ve done a batch of deeds only for everyone to add each other at the end is beyond count. It’s not a fairy tale, it’s the average interaction between people who aren’t miserable cunts. Why are you even playing a cooperative game?
>>355676779Dodge backwards twice, then hit them in the head with the coghammer heavy. One shot even on legend.
>>355700114Well GK and OE released in June/November respectively, and SoTT came out this June, so either with the update or a couple weeks after seems like a safe bet.
>>355707767making people who just want to play the game, and not deeds, makes you cunt when you switch to deeds. if you cant realize that youre an even bigger cunt
I wish you could quickjoin into deeds. I've got dozens of them shitting up my inventory but I don't want to rely on braindead bots.
>>355709843OH GEE IF ONLY IT WAS PUT TO A VOTE OR SOMETHING TO SEE IF EVERYONE ACTUALLY WANTED TO DO THEM, OH WAIT IT FUCKING IS
>>355707767I don't care if deeds are rare, they are barely hosted people do not expect them yet you present it as it was the norm, an extra chest won't make a difference even if your goal was every single red skin(just do chaos wastes if you want chests so badly)>Stop thinking that everyone’s out to use you and just play the game god damnI would if demented individuals just hosted QP and said occasional hello and cracked a joke, instead of arguing over which deed should be hosted, they are the outliers>Deeds were implemented to encourage community which if you’re playing alone is something you should definitely take advantage ofsounds like weaves then, did those took off? I would love to see statistic how many even reached weave 40 let alone gone furtherWhy is so hard to understand that I want to play on occasion without interacting with people after work, shooting gutter runner off my teammates without waiting for verbal praise is somehow not cooperative?>they’re literally being nice you fucking idiotIs this the nice guy cope I keep hearing about?
I miss Victor's VT1 pistols
>>355712498launch VT2 had them>atk speed perks>unload 30 fucking musket balls in 1 second
so what's the best DRG class?
>>355711208Chaos wastes is boring and nobody has the mental fortitude to play nothing but that. Nobodies saying you have to interact with anyone. Someone pops up a deed, you don’t wanna do it, just leave. You do, accept. Nobody’s holding you hostage, you have to agree to it and you can leave at any point. Weaves have nothing to do with it and honestly, for what they are I still don’t mind them. They’re probably the most difficult thing you can play in the base game without mods and, while they shouldn’t have been sold with a dlc that introduces an entire new faction of enemy, meaning everyone would want it while only a tiny fraction of them would be able to participate in weaves. They have a place. Majority of the people that play this game have zero patience for it, I think seeing the steam challenges the other day only something like 5% of players have equipped a red in every slot. But I do get it, I go offline mode and jump into random games when I cbf with people all the time.
>>355713154I love chaos wastes
>>355712884the cute femdwarf one
>>355712879>sitting on ammo box with OG brace of pistolsGod I miss it
>>355608474Anything Saltzpyre says in Vermintide 1. He literally can't go thirty seconds without threatening to murder one of his teammates (usually Sienna) or insulting their existence in an obviously serious and piercing way. He was genuinely just a real asshole as opposed to the hammy zealot with a heart of gold who clearly doesn't have bite to his words in VT2.
>>355713154>Someone pops up a deed, you don’t wanna do it, just leavethey youre forcing people to go through loading screens and find new games, that makes you an inconsiderate cunt
>>355713773Oh no not a 10 second loading screen. Just host if it bothers you that much princess
>>355713253I appreciate them for one thing, they were introduced shortly after I started to play and the weapon shrines forced me experience variety of weapons firsthand instead of putting them off
>>355714269>they were introduced shortly after I started to play and the weapon shrines forced me experience variety of weapons firsthand instead of putting them offYeah ironically going back to L4D weapon distribution makes the game a lot more fun. As do random talents. I finalized my builds a year ago and haven't changed them, I'm glad I have to sort of adapt on the fly.
>>355714082except you can host qp manually, you dumb nigger. thank you proving youre a massive autist
If you aren't playing the highest difficulty of your respective /coop/ game (other than paying for Cataclysm that is), you are a scrub and your opinion doesn't matter. Don't @ me, fags.
>>355714269>actually wasting coins on the weapon shrines>just now getting into Vermintide 2 with Chaos Wastes when the game has been dead for two years now.
>>355715186weapon shrines invite you to try shit out instead of doing the same meta garbage we've been doing for literal years
>Load up a Chaos Wastes run>Don't get lightning on crit within the first two levels>Quit and start againSimple as.
>>355715186thanks for beta testing
>>355714572Except you canhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1495937978&searchtext=HostNow fuck off and stop embarrassing yourself retard.
>>355716032===============================================Private quick play games can only be hosted in modded realm===============================================
>>355712879Yeah but they also didn't do shitloads of damage
>>355716668Oh so it has to be a private game now? Moving the goalposts a tad but ok, so you host game. Hold tab, tick private. Wanna keep trying? Lmao.
>>355714572imagine being this cocky when you're completely wrong
>>355713758Saltzpyre grew as a character, Kerillian didn't.
>>355717315why would she, her future is bleak? She keeps making her situation worse and worse to the point where even death won't bring peace
>>355715378>Someone gets Mananns with high crit rate>Quit>OE or other spammy ranged class gets explosion on ranged crit>Quit>I get Mananns with high crit rate>QuitI don't have fun when Monsters are just locked into 100% stagger until death or patrols and masses of enemies just plop dead within a second. They don't even die spectacularly, they just freeze and ragdoll with Mananns. I guess if you're still in the grind game I can understand winning effortlessly is rewarding at least.Lets hope Grudge Monsters mitigate this shit or they balance these boons somewhat.
>>355717765>shadow of mordor narrator voice:>Neskrit Ironfur, rat ogre>modifiers: 100% damage from ranged, immune to melee, cannot be thrown of a cliff>you are the last man standing as slayer
>>355717315Her banter is 2 is obviously more lighthearted than her continual depression in 1 and she cares enough about her teammates to ask them about their lives and hopes (cf. conversations with Bardin about his fanily or with Kruber about if he misses being in the army) - almost pesters them with concern, as in the case of her trying to get Kruber to not follow Saltzpyre anymore and actually complimenting him when he does (by becoming either a Grail Knight or Huntsman). She also progresses from trying to hide her concern for human civilian lives at the beginning of the Helmgart campaign (cf. her denying any emotion to Saltzpyre in Empire in Flames when he notices she looks guilty) to being upfront about it by the time of Drachenfels 2 (her intro dialogue in that mission is a very gung-ho call to save the Rotbloods' prisoners), and consistently groups herself in with the others more, such as going pub crawling with them or going hunting with Kruber. Which is further implied by the way she says lines like "we'll show [the Skaven] how the most puerile of idiots do it, not once but twice in a day" (in Skittergate), or the new leaked dialogue for mission intros where she says lines like "I guess now we're heroes... or fools. It's hard to tell the difference when I look at the company I keep" or "I guess I could sit this one out, but what would happen to the mayflies without me there? Nothing good."She also outright calls Bardin her friend in SOTT dialogue and I swear there's a line in Chaos Wastes where she says the same about the others in general (something like "I had to choose between common sense and friendship when they asked me to come to the Chaos Wastes, what an idiot I am").
>>355718517>You got 300% damage barrels and oils boonTIME TO EXPLORE THE LEVEL
>>355709997every deed can be solo'd easy
>>355712884gunner and driller are the most fun to play imo
>>355717606Because writing.>>355719512She says Bardin healing her doesn't make them friends and continues to spout the same shitty narcissistic dialogue, simp harder. Every compliment is backhanded, everything is laced with contempt. Shit character, shit writing, stain on the games. Nasty self-hating edgelord bitch.
>engineer career released>no sniper illusion for the handgun>all handgun illusions are made of woodI actually hate this
>>355705964Mirin' headshot %
merc is one of the few careers that provide honest, ethical fun while still being strongother ethical careers being slayer, zealot, UC, huntsman
I want a fembooy gutter runner to ride my dick like he's trying to turn his prostate into mashed potatoes.
>>355725786Kruber you disgusting mayfly...
>>355725940dumbass wutelgiit's necessary to keep umgi virility up
you posted cringe
>>355705964Why does it feel like I was the Saltz? We have the same portrait frame, same outfit, same weapon loadout.Except I never remember getting Teamkilled by a Cuntsman
>>355726892that's not a particularly rare portrait for whc, you know
my boy RV is the honestest
>>355727020It definitely isn't, but I don't see WHC players with the hat and outfit often. Most run Tyrant's Bicorne rather than the plumed one.
>>355727192not since MWP
>>355696808OMG THIS IS SO BASED
>>355696808LEGENDBROS... ITS OVER... I GOTTA BUY WOM
>>355715378>bh saltz with crossbow>lightning on crit>crit resets every 6 seconds instead of 10>extra projectile per ranged attack>resets favored bounty or the crit on ranged attack every melee killMy god
>play Cata Chaos Wastes>don't reset and just play with what we getYeah, I'm thinking based
Back 4 Blood was the fastest I've ever uninstalled a game. Insane how awful this game is, especially when compared to L4D2. What the fuck happened.
>>355733383That just shows you're not a faggot and gotta deal with the cards you're dealt making the most of it.>>355734165Imagine needing to install it to see how awful it is.
>play Mercenary Kruber>intentionally let every gunner runner pounce me so I can live out my fantasiesYeah, I'm thinking I'm based
>When you resign to your fate and embrace the oath as fulfilled>Fate intervenes
>>355734340>Bitch Ass Shit Enjoying DegenerateVERY Based indeed.
>quickplay legend get fort baconburger or whatever nazi language it is>everything going good so far, get a chaos patrol>SIR KRUBER HAHA right into them, aggroing all of them>forcing my teammates to deal with them>ambient plague monks aggro to us, they kill my team instantly>SIR KRUBER HAHA into a brapstorm>5 chaos warriors hit me at once, draining my stamina shields>go down and die, call my team shit and leaveSir Kroober Haha
>>355735631Why the fuck did I laugh at this?
what's the deal with this guy?
>>355735890because you realize that's your average sir kruber poster>I wish there was a circle for stagger so I could get at least one circle in a game>people don't appreciate the stagger support my career provides>t. pic related
>>355735925The shot missing, the swings missing, the incessant weapon switching, panic clearly settling in and it ends with him facing the camera and getting poked in the back is just so rare to see like this it turns comical.
>>355736204he knows he's retarded and just gives up in the end
>>355735631He even had a globadier helping him
>>355735631Best Knight of the Surface-Dwellers vs Worst Clanrat in the Under-Empire
I like to think SIR KRUBER is the local retard that the other four keep around out of pity. They let him think he's helping by killing a few dozen clanrats and staggering everything, like a mother hanging her child's drawing on the fridge.
tfw we'll never see our grey wizard and wizard's tower kino again
So /copeg/ getting filtered by FK is the new meme huh?
>quickplay cata get castle dragondeez or whatever nazi language it is>everything going good so far, get a chaos patrol>FOR KHADRIIIIIIIIN onto one of them, killing him instantly but aggroing the rest of them>kill all of them with my teammates>ambient plague monks aggro to us, they kill my team instantly>BY THE ANCESTORRRRRS into a brapstorm>5 chaos warriors hit me at once, draining my green health>go down and die, say gg and leaveJust like Cousin Okri
>>355738642Oath status: fulfilled
>>355738294Seems so, them not understanding the value of my stagger support is unfortunate, but deep down I know I'm helping secure the victory
>>355738642heh an old ranger trick
>>355565284>Going through Risk of Rain 2>Huntress 3 runs and Won.>Captain 1 run and won>Mercenary... 5, round 8 runs failed... in a row.Fucking upset lads. Mate of mine shoved the legendary skin in my face and I lost my 2nd run due to a bullshit phase through the wall glitch.Just fucking hell lads, getting so close and losing time and time again, I'm demoralised because of what my """mate""" did.
>>355738991>functionally immortal thanks to stagger thp>can stop anything in his path>makes enemies helpless so the team can kill them easily>/copeg/ reeeeeee's
>>355738991I can do the exact same thing on cuntsman and retarded veteran but while having infinite ammo
>>355739964I have infinite ammo too
>>355729687>Buy WoM>Still mostly play Legend because nobody hosts Cata and I want to rush Pantheon of Legend
>>355695330DAAAAAAMN. This is good shit!Well, as >>355696864 points out, I hope its a secondary thing so the good looking menu since forever stays.Also, im still waiting for Sienna & Saltz classes....
>>355696864Isn't that just the controller UI version
>>355695330now if only there was an option to salvage all non reds as soon as they are opened
Post your hoards
>>355680938Greataxe even doesn't need opportunist to stagger monks, it's crazy.
>>355565284GTFO is so disappointing to me. It started out really promising, but it hasn't improved at all since it went into early access. In fact it went backwards in quality.What started out as an immersive survival horror game is turning into this absolutely retarded... thing where you bunny hop down corridors and grind for stat boost tokens. The spooks are an afterthought and the enemies barely change.>introduce weird, fleshy pods in some rooms>can't shoot them>can't do anything to them>they don't even move>literally all they are are static props that indicate a room has respawning enemies>they don't even hatch or anything, zombies just pop back into existence in the exact spots you killed them in if you move away from the roomIs this because they sold out to Tencent? Absolutely fucking soulless game.
>>355750074I open everything as soon as I get it so I have no problems with "muh big hoard, too long to open and salvage, help me fatshart I'm going insane".
>>355750074recently opened most of my vaults unfortunately
>>355698953>encourages you to make friendslast time i made a friend i got stabbed in the back the second i let my guard downif you were older you would understand that every interaction with another sapient being is a prisoner's dilemma to either set up mutually assured destruction to ensure holding each other to cooperation or avoided at all costs if a MAD situation isn't possible
>>355751112I haven’t played in a while but that’s genuinely a shame to hear
You think they'll ever rework Outcast Engineer?
i can't take it anymorei'm kicking all fucking elves from my game and privating my lobby if I start the mission with an empty slot that could possibly be filled by elfThese people are not fucking human, how are all the worst, most egotistical players playing the same fucking character
>>355757456let me guess, you play FK?
My god what a pain in the ass achievement, at least on Deathwish. Probably should've just done it on Overkill, oh well.
>>355757456sounds like a you problem you seething shitter>inb4 muh elfI only play Kruber, sometimes dwarf>>355755009meds
Why does this general bitch so much about elf? The same complaints apply to BH, huntsmen, zealots and MWP/throwing axe RVs just as often.
So I've stumbled upon Back 4 Blood and was wondering if it's worth gettingI really like the character designsHow much characters are they adding? What is the life expectancy of the game?Based on the other two games I get, will I like this?!(The only other games I play like this are Monster Hunter World and Overwatch)
>>355764328it not, its at worse worth $30, because these are the evolve devs and theyre not very good at making games
>>355764008>BHBH doesn't have infinite ammo.>huntsmenHuntsman requires a modicum of skill to use well. Otherwise he's dead weight, unlike Elf>zealots Zealot players are more closely related to Slayer or GK than Elf. Retarded, but they don't ruin the fun for everyone else.>MWP/throwing axe RVsI don't care as much about them as much because they're rarer. However, they are obnoxious and I wish they didn't exist.
>>355764008because its not a meme to hate other characters simple as
>>355764328you need to remember this is the team who made the game EVOLVE. Do you remember evolve? Turtlerock doesnt want you to remember it either they removed it from steam.>marketed on /v/ and reddit>PC MONSTER EDITION 100 DOLLARS>sold poorly and died within a week >game was extremely unbalanced>marketed as "FROM THE MAKERS OF LEFT 4 DEAD" because they had a guy who got coffee for valve on their pay roll.They are doing the exact same behaviour as evolve with back 4 blood and will ban you if you mention valve in their discord.
Recently joined a group thats been playing barony nonstop. Outside of the OP what are some coop games i could introduce to them?
>use pyro ult on storm sorc 5 feet away from me>flaming skull does a 90 degree turn as soon as it spawns and disappears into a stormvermin that wasn't even looking at me>storm sorc teleports away and starts casting in a hallway
>>355765716Found the slender fingered knife ear
>>355768330You can hold F for a split second longer and it'll let you target which enemy you want it to hit first with a red outline
B4B is great but not worth $60
B4B is shit but it's worth 60$
I have no opinion on B4B regarding its quality or price
B4B is dead online, a minimum of two ai are present in each match.
>>355764328>What is the life expectancy of the game?a week lmao
B4B is for those that do not play video games on the internet
why do I never see Krubers using the 1h sword? I kind of get it for merc and FK but on huntsman and (presumedly) GK it feels good
>>355774209>presumedlyso you haven't actually used it on GK?
>>355774209why click 1 rat when you can cleave 10 rats?
>>355774209No reason to when sword and mace exists
>>355774209Alot of players will look at the loadouts of successful players in their team without really thinking about it and copy them. Use it and watch others copy
>>355774174What does that even mean?
Why the fuck do enemy overheads extend four thousand miles beyond their weapon model? I keep eating hits because apparently the might of Chaos lets enemies warp space on me. It's ridiculous. I'm literally fucking seething and rage quit a map because of it. How the fuck do I deal with that? Dodging sideways doesn't always seem to help.
Is it even feasible to beat Chaos Wastes on Cataclysm with bots without getting Tempest?
>>355774209Because it's outperformed by other weapons on every career in its niche as a jack of all trades weapon. Even if you don't include the M&S for how gorillamode it is, or the Bret longsword for how hilariously better it is than the the vanilla longsword, it's still beat by the halberd on Merc, the spear on Huntsman, and the greathammer on FK. Every career that can use it has mechanics that enhance other weapons way more than they could enhance the vanilla longsword. Which isn't to say that the weapon itself isn't fun, of course, but "the weapon is fun" isn't a common enough line of thought for us to not be having this conversation.
>>355777119in the immortal words of literally any fighting game playerQUIT PUSHING BUTTONS AND BLOCK NIGGA
>>355777516I WAS TRYING TO SHOOT A SV BUT NAH FUCK ME IT CAN POWER THROUGH ANYTHING I GUESS
>>355777989QUIT TRYING TO LOOK COOL AND JUST BLOCK DUNKASS
>>355773385>try to host my own lobby>no people joning for 10+ minutes>go for quicksearch>get matched with a stack that either instantly goes down and quits or quits after struggling all the way to the next safehouse
>>355775208I didn't buy GK>>355775868>>355777346I don't know, I feel like the 1h sword is way more versatile than sword and mace. easier to farm THP on huntsman too, just better defensively overall.
>>355779136Spear shits out THP on Huntsman on stagger and kills alike, its only problem (which is shares with Saltzpyre's billhook) being that it's just a bit shorter than the halberd, which will fuck you up if you're stuck on halberdbrain like I am. That being said, the 1h sword does feel good since you can hit easy headshots without relying on stamina, but even then lights 1 and 2 on m&s have retarded amounts of cleave+stagger to farm THP with, along with double crit rolls on heavy attacks to farm THP even harder with Swift Slaying. It's frustrating to think that another weapon rebalance won't haplen until after Sienna's fourth career, and by then Darktide will already be released and Fatshark will have most likely abandoned the game like always.
>>355778506I WAS TRYING TO KILL THE ENEMY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>355780129>another weapon rebalance won't happen until after Sienna's fourth careerWait there's no BBB until sienna dlc? When did they say this?
Is outcast engi fun?
>>355783536Not at all. MK2 fucking stinks and his best weapon set up is Coghammer/Handgun so you may as well just play RV or IB
>>355783536the weapons are great on other classes. The minigun shreds most boss encounters but requires someone to baby sit you or for you to be really on your shit due to the delay of unequiping the gun.
>>355783536I like him with trollhammer, but you need extra effort to not eat shit.
>>355783536not really no, he's pretty lame. crank gun is mostly useful for robbing your team of temp HP on hordes, and doing somewhat okay boss damage. outside of crank gun he literally has nothing to offer himself or the team. ranger does everything OE does but brings a lot more utility to the team and thanks to MWP is a strong boss deleter. MWP lets ranger solo storm vermin patrols with ease. OE fucking stinks, his DLC was just a ranger veteran buff pack
bros what's going on with Darktide?
So after picking up b4b on gaypass and beating the first chapter I can say that it's pretty okay. I like the card system and found that it's pretty fun to stack every health card and become invincible but otherwise you're better off playing left for dead. Also online fucking sucks. Both times I tried I got stuck with braindead retards and decided I was better off playing solo.
>>355787968Delayed so they can give it that Fatshark™ Seal of Approval. It sounds like they realized what they'd made was kind of shit and went back to the drawing board.
>>355777291yep, even with shit boons overall. Did it with RV+MWP+greathammer
>>355788549NTA but honestly that's good. I'd rather a delayed game that's pretty good over a rushed game that's shit.
>>355788748Let's just hope that's the case. I think Cyberpunk proved you can delay the game as much as you want, won't matter in the end if the game's fundamentally shit.
>>355788985it'll be the ol' Fatshark combo, fun core gamplay coupled with a shitload of bugs that'll take ages to fix. Every game they did was like that, they know how to make fun games but always shit the bed with support after launch and they have a tendency to abandon games(I still weep for Lead &Gold)
>>355738991>not opportunist spear instead so you stagger 3 times farther and deal 3 times more damageFucking shield plebs
>>355764747>>355766494>theyre not very good at making gamesEvolve was a genuinely fantastic made game on a technical level.The movement was smooth and enjoyable, the guns felt very clean to use, every character was unique and felt different.It was released very stable and clean of bugs. The devs regularly listened to feedback and worked with the (small) community to shape the game.Everything was animated incredibly well, playing as the Monster felt VERY natural.The lore, characters, writing, and general atmosphere was top notch.It was an incredibly soulful gameIts only failures was being somewhat niche, and being owned by WB who pushed shitty microtransactions in to it at every turn.Turtle Rock's development studio is very talented and passionate - but the marketing division of Warner Bros is scummy as fuck and run by a board of jews.
>>355789551That good? Tuskgor or spear and shield?
>>355790314I'd agree, the games are technically good and satisfying to play. They just lack that something that makes most people's lizard brain tickle. I enjoyed Evolve too, but I never felt like playing it for days on end for years. Maybe Back 4 Blood is similar. People expect it to last like l4d did back in the day, but I'd be fine if I get like 100 hours out of it. It's not l4d again, people should get over that fact
>>355783536yes and noHe has the potential to be very fun in one moment and to be a chore to play in the next. I really want him to get a rework or a slight buff or something.
>>355790841Tuskgor. Poke and push attack interrupt everything but overhead and plague monks. The cleave is unreal compared to elf spear and your range is disgusting. Takes a moment to get used to just poking at Elites in a horde from behind your friends while they deal with them. If all goes to shit you spam push attack 3 times and everything on your screen is either dead or on the ground with low health
>>355791143I use it on huntsman/sometimes merc. Worth putting opportunist on it for both? Or is it purely a FK stagger thing.
>>355790314no, it was shit because it favors the hunters too much, the fact that the most of the monsters cant one shot a hunter with a wallop makes it really badalso the dlc was the devs doing, not a mandate by wb, since the "game was 'built from the ground up' to support DLC". these guys wanted to make dlc for l4d, but they didnt for some reason
>>355791406They didn't because Valve said fuck off and released it for free kek.
>>355789551If I could use spear on FK I would.
>>355790314>Turtle Rock's development studio is very talented and passionateyou outed yourself with that human resources terminology.
> /copeg/ actually unironically uses swift bow on elf> literally the worst ranged option available> justifies it by saying it's better for "shooting in melee" as if that's any kind of problem at all> anon actually admits he's shit at melee since he can't create space> anon is actually too shit to play elf, the easiest crutch class in the gameThese are the brain dead fucks joining your quick play games. This is why you need a dedicated play group.
>>355791143>>355791352>>355791520lol that's right, ignore my question xD
>>355790902>It's not l4d againI'll bet turtle rock sure wished it was, though
>>355791542youve couldve just said buzzwords that dumb people say to sound important
>>355791856Go home, bullshit your resume, and send it off to a place that isn't trash. Hell at this point you might as well be a janitor.
>>355791352Works on merc and huntsman and definitely opportunist, can FK even use it?Armor is your only problem really, it deals very little damage unless you crit so I usually just end up raigunning armor in the head if I'm alone against many
>>355792058No I'm just retarded, well I'll give it a go cheers. No more sneed slaying for me.
>>355788748People say this a lot and I probably agree but we also have no clue if it really did have a substantial change in that period of time. Look at EYE-Hammer Deathwing. They released a horrible mess but even after doing a "remaster" edition or whatever they made year(s) later it's still a fundamentally boring game after like 6 hours. Just less crashing, and oh boy we're going to have crashing in Darktide even if they release after people stop being mad about ME3.
>>355792245the remaster crashes just as much, and doesnt fix many of the fundamental problems with the game
>>355792362Hence "extra time" MAY not equal "the best it'll ever be" on release. Well, Deathwing still sucks so I guess it's technically true.
>>355792245If they do a vermintide 2 release then there will be no hope gaining more players. They have a sadisticly loyal fanbase in us already but if darktide ships with even problems like clipping through the ground to your death similar to vermintide even two years after release then it will never take off.40k is extremely popular with normal fags so that alone could carry darktide but if ships broken its doomed. On the brightside though a failed 40k game is a guarentee from gamesworkshop for more licensing
>>355791542"talent" and "passion" are common words to use
>>355793285If you are a girl in a tv show or presenting a resume sure. Maybe get outside once in awhile instead of marketining on /vg/ huh? I swear they dig you retards out of a public speaking class.
>>355794069Yeah okay buddy, you tell yourself that.
I paid $60 for Evolve
>>355795323Poor anon, I bought deathwing at launch. Was probably $60 or more I can't even remember. This trailer got me so hyped. https://youtu.be/WGmmXd8r4YQ
>>355795323I paid 0$ for all games that flopped and died and i only buy games on discount or humble bundle.
>>355795323I paid $80 for the special edition of Spore.
>>355738294yes, they fear the man who cares not for green circles only victory. Makes elves literally seethe. Imagine putting all your value into one thing and then this chad walks in and rejects the value of it entirely. Cope and seethe is the only thing they can do.
>>355796612Globo just wanted to show you his globe collection
>>355796663I know a FK who gets no circles and whose score is awful if you look at it. But we all call him THE WALL coz the man will stop anything from hitting you and keep anything and everything at bay. Kids these days have no respect for the life of the humble FK.
>>355565284Question for B4B fellows, what do you think about the combat knife + battle lust combo (non melee decks)? I considered it mandatory when I started the game, but now with many good specialized cards unlocking I'm starting to think it might just be 2 slots wasted
>damage taken is a stat that can tell you a lot about a playerWhy do retards say this? Half of the careers in this game generete THP fast enough/have a stupid amount of dmg reduction/both that you can hit trade without any worries and actually be better for it, because you can just ult constantly.
>>355783536If you use his entire arsenal and hoard bombs he's fun. I love it when you can chain crankgun from special to special so it just keeps going and makes a different noise that happens after like 10 seconds of uninterrupted fire.Then whip out revolver and dab on elites.With the melee talent you can melee shit decently and plop trollhammers with a power boost.He's just not fun if you simply brrrrt a horde from one direction and that's that. I seriously try to only shoot up parts of a horde or one specific direction unless it's endless on Chaos Wastes and we need everyone dead ASAP.
>>355795638I bought Deathwing when it had the horrible beta. Hoped for better launch, more enemies, objectives, variety etc but within 2 hours realized it was all the same shit skipping to final map so I refunded. Reskins don't count as enemy variety.
>>355783536he's fun but can be exhausting to play because you're constantly juggling between cranking, shooting, reloading the trollhammer(or handgun/MWP) and putting yourself into a good position so you have a good line of sight and your back's covered. Positioning is key because you can't always rely on your teammates to watch your back and it's hard to listen to enemy gurgles and footsteps near you when your whole arsenal makes sounds like Optimus Prime fucking a boiler room
>>355797227People seem to forget stagger talents do exist. A dude setting even elites in a tier 1-2 stagger constantly is at least 20-40% more damage on every swing and cleave that hits said enemies. This is far more efficiently and widely applied by a FK than other DPS classes. The DR aura is also really good since it applies to THP as well. A Slayer with his swing DR up and Barkskin next to a FK can shrug off a ton of damage.
>>355792245EYE devs have a knack for getting the atmosphere and aesthetics right but almost everything else sucks ass and they've shown their incompetence many times. Seeing dev interviews and talking to one of the guys that worked on EYE it's clear that the fun parts of EYE and some of the good ideas in it were just an accident. As for Fatshark they always deliver good gameplay but their games are always infested with bugs that they often can't fix for a long time, their updates are slow, DLC and balance decisions are weird, dev silences are often and long, they're greedy etc. They seem to be getting a little bit better after releasing Chaos wastes so I have a tiny bit of hope for Darktide's support being better but I'm 100% sure that it will be beyond broken and buggy on launch
>>355801120Most of the damage taken isn't calculated hit trade damage. It's usually damage because they aren't playing well enough to avoid damage. When shit hits the fan they're usually the ones that go down first.
>HordesHEH>Mixed hordesPfft>PatrolsBOOM BANG SMACK>MonstersAyy>LordsBig whoop>A swarm of disablersNot today!>A handful of Beastmen running up awkward multi diagonal staircase when you are above them trying to melee downward as they take turns jump attacking, headbutting, run attacking and sliding 90 degree turns to hit you in the toes for 75 health eachAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEE TASKETEEEStairs are the fucking worst.
>>3557742091h sword has decent horde moveset but it's absolutely trash agaainst armor, and you know, there are weapons that are good at both jobs
>>355801120headshot rate is the actual shitter detector stat, as you need time and experience with a weapon to headshot consistently, not just luck of good teammates covering your arse or playing an overpowered career
>>355796612I don't get the hate on Spore, I got it shortly after release as a kid, on a physical disc, I had funreplayed it as an adult, still had funbut internet says it's bad
>>355801120if you're playing a tank career then sure you'll get a passbut if you're eating shit on elf then you're a shitter 100%
>>355807262it was similar to every Molyneux game, playable and fun but overhyped and overpromised. People got mad when they didn't get what they expected
>>355807559if you dont have the lowest damage taken as ironbreaker you're a shitter
To be honest there should be a vermintide general, 80% posts are about it. Let this be a slow paced coop general for the other games.
Do you avoid patrols or dive them the first chance you get?My rule is that if I have a bomb, a potion, or if my skill is ready, I always engage without question (only exception is if a monster spawns).
>>355808621>vermintide gets own general>coop games general gets buried under gacha and other shit>vermintide general dies during late night(US)/morning EU hours>how could this happen?! It must those pesky warhammer faggots
>>355807992sure but I don't think IB is what OP is referring to
>>355809156ib is a tank career
>>355809238let me help your peanut brain understand by handing the context over to you on a silver platter:I don't think >>355801120 is talking about IB
What likely changes will we get in the next BBB? More Sienna mace buffs?A massive buff to Saltz repeater?More 1h axe buffs?Javelin nerf?SoTT magic nerf?Elf 1h axe buffs?Moonbow nerf?Huntsman rework?Throwing axes buff?Shotties buff?Trollhammer nerf?MWP nerf?Hopefully Twin Axes buff.
>>355809476you're naive if you think fatshark will do any major balance patch this late to the game's lifespan
>>355809363cool, but i wasn't replying to that post, was i? i was replying to someone saying that you can eat shit as a tank career. handmaiden (especially with shield)/ironbreaker should have low damage taken if played properly. footknight arguably can hit trade to his benefit
>>355809476Nothing because circle-chasing VT2lets are happy with the current state of the game
>>355808621you're completely wrong, it wouldn't be slow paced it would be dead same as a separate vermintide thread after a first couple of days. None of the coop games can survive on their own because of the update cycles of the devs, before chaos wastes 90% of the threads were DRG, I remember people saying that "the thread should be just a DRG thread seeing as everyone s just discussing DRG" and DRG stopped getting discussed because it's last 2 updates(weapon rebalance and mods) were kinda shit while Chaos wastes was actually good and we got a new career so it carried the momentum. Aliens got some discussion but lack of quickplay killed it pretty fast despite a new class being added, now that we have quickplay perhaps it will start again with a new real content update. When the big content for DRG comes out 4.11. DRG will once again be the focus, Gunfire will probably have some discussion when it hits 1.0 this Autumn, new Saltz career will be discussed when it comes out etc. Any attempt to split the thread will just mean the death of /coop/
>>355809578The last one was mostly the community and just Fatshark glossing over if the suggestions seemed fair. Seen a few anons mention it might be in the pipe but nothing concrete.>"10 years of support and updates!">>355809659It's pretty alright since first BBB but it's always nice to bring most weapons into at least a point of consideration. At least for Cata.
>>355809476Fatshark balances for legend so there will be no Huntsman rework because he kicks ass on Legend with the longbow and repeater
>>355810035Did you follow the BBB? They tried a big rework but changed their minds the last second and hinted it will probably be retried the next time. They wouldn't even have attempted it if what you said is true.
>>355809832pretty much what would happen
>>355810267kinda missed that, didn't know people had problems with hunstman on legend, he shreds. On Cata he sucks though
>>355810861I would think they tried to address both as they had taken some issue with how his talents worked. I think it was basically not everyone can consistently click heads enough to feel good playing him so they gave him the limited ability to have bodyshots count as headshots (tied to a resource). Which also made the shotties far better for him as all pellets would benefit from HS bonus. It was pretty neat but something or the other made them rethink it.
>>355808621you said it yourself, there's not enough discussion for coop games to have non-vermintide generalwhy do you think payday and vermintide merged into coop general in the first place? fucking newfag
>>355811131that would be a cool if it was a passive, really hope they implement it, would be fun taking the blunderbuss out again with him
>>355809638you're replying to me with the same thing after I already said that OP likely did not talk about IBare you brain damaged or something? don't answer it's pretty clear at this point since you can't follow context
>>355811603are you actually retarded? im replying to the guy who says you can eat shit as a tank career, not the guy you're talking about. take your fucking meds
I see the /coopg/ cooldown for another bout of "retard" "retard seethe" "cope tranny" "retard ass schizo" reply chain is about to begin again.
>>355811832lurk moar and learn what OP means newfag
you made your bait to obvious, i will cease replying
>>355812543Code seed and distilate
I accept your concession
I bet the poster above me plays a career I dislike
Foot Knight, what level 20 talent should I use?I don't know the range of the aura so have no idea if the range increase is worth it
>>355813338rock of reikland is generally the best, the bcr is the main benefitfor specific breakpoints, comrades in arms may be useful
>>355813338comrades in arms is generally the best, the power is the main benefit for reaching breakpointsif you're a shitter rock of reikland may be useful
>>355813338depends on the playstyle, people take the increased aura mostly for the BCR because BCR is fantastic for higher difficulties, the middle talent is good if you're in a team that sticks together and you take tag team for getting to certain breakpoints because of the power increase(and also if you're playing with friends, made playing with a friend that wanted to level Sienna on legend much because he constantly exploded so the 50% DR saved him from getting downed by self immolation, works also on drakfire exploding dawi)
>>355813841i use comrades because i run spear and shield but cata/modded builds which dont use spear and shield all use rock of reikland :)
>>355566219Noice.I'm currently waiting to grab the other 'newish' heists, Ukrainian Prisoner et al, on the coming halloween sale while doing some comfy mayhem grind.
>>355813910I forget, does tag team work on the closest ally regardless of distance or do you have to be in a certain radius for it to work?
>>355814367I don't know
>>355814367Pretty much everything teammate specific has a maximum range so I'd wager you need to be relatively close.>A FK with tag team, DR for teammates boon, aura talent reintroduced boon and my own DR all applying at the same timePretty nuts how tanky things can get.
All the "+7.2% power against infantry with 650 hero power with X and Y modifiers active to reach the cataclysm headshot breakpoint for marauders and stagger 14.96 clanrats" is keeping a lot of people from discussing balance like they did with VT1In VT1 it was clear and easily understandable just from playing the game casually that a 2h hammer light attack always did just short of enough damage to headshot a cata clanrat which clearly left it short of its competitors, so people could suggest improvements to stuff like thatThis is why VT2 gameplay will never be perfected like VT1 was. Too many autistic stat stacking variables that don't actually add anything to the game for anyone but circle chasing powergamers who just care about what the current best thing is to give feedback.
>>355808786I avoid them if someone's dead or we have huge horde/monster/ton of specials at the moment. Most of the time it's a welcome change of pace to dab on some patrol.
>>355809832Pottery, coop games can survive only in coop.
>>355808786avoid by defaultif the tools are there, ask team if they wanna fight it
>>355808786as long as they're nothing else urgent at the moment like a monster or horde i usually go for them
>>355814812Most of the people don't care about breakpoints.
>>355808786chaos patrol I always avoid, regardless of difficulty a lot of players shit their pants and forget how to play when facing more than 2 Chaos warriors so I'm not willing to take that risk. Stormvermin patrol I always just write "kill" in the chat box and start blasting
>>355808786if I'm playing slayer or trollhammer then there is no other option than killing all patrols
>>355809363>>355807559I'm going to help you guys out. The only careers that I think would have a problem with hit trading are:>BH>shade>WS (maybe with THP on cleave + spear this would be a different story)>probably pyroBesides that UC can be tricky because of overcharge. Also take my elf picks with a grain of salt as I don't play elf anymore. And yes you can do this with IB, permanent 30% dmg reduction coupled with THP on stagger is crazy. The only question is do you want to waste your Gromril Armour on trash.
>>355764328Despite what all the brand war nogame faggots try to tell you, it's actually pretty fun. If you've got a crew of friends to play it with it's def worth the release price, but if you're on the fence, or not sure about it, grab it on a sale in six months.
>>355814812It was simpler but also very figured out. Rogers were one magdump dead even on Cata when everyone had Strength pot share. Entire patrols were pushed off cliffs by opportunist shields or simply outrun and ranged because they literally couldn't hit you if you ran facing away from them. Sienna bolt spammed while Elf trueshot spammed 90% of ambients and Storms in mixed hordes. It has its charms for sure. VT1 also took forever to get the big balance patch so I don't get the "great hammer didnt one shot rats on cata so suggestions were put forward to fix it". Is that even the case now? At least Cata wasn't a god damn DLC in VT1.I wish we had harder revives in VT2. VT1 wasn't supposed to have "block revive" as it had a specific trinket that allowed revives without interruptions when hit. Back then and now in 2 people can rush in on a downed player completely surrounded and in 1: Push because 360 effect and revive without much risk getting block broken or in 2: Push in two directions or F and manage most revives. Not to mention revive speed in 1 could be 75% faster which is even faster than a HM in 2 with revive speed on trinket and her passive/talent for it.
>>355642346>"Check where you cast,wizard"
>>355808993>>355809832>>355811394ok guys I see your point, I'm sorry, no need to be rude
What is /coopg/?This general is for cooperative games; a general which need more than one game and requires them to work together to keep the thread alive.
Rock and Stone!
>>355827252They keep doing previews of weird floating robotsWhat does it mean
>>355824594>Not buff Skaven daddycringe-cringe
fucking elf, fucking friendly fire and fucking moonfire bow dlc and fucking aimlets who play with all three. I will not even talk about spear'gs cause they are below substantially below that holy shit
>>355827252Cock n Bone brother!
>>355827481*throws three javelins through you and wipes all the slaverats you were about to get thp from*nothing personnel mayfly
>>355827481>woodnigger needs to spam ranged attacks on slaves instead of just hitting them like every sane person>150+ friendly fire at the end of the roundEvery fucking time
>>355827406skaven are only for other skaven men
>>355791542>>355794069this retard has to be baiting right?
>>355827372flying drones,evil eye mech pyramid, turret and some kind of mechanical power cables are the only thing they've shown for now. I'm still not sure if it's an event or mission type
know your place trash
>>355828051Just play on veteran if you don't like friendly fire :)
>>355827481Tell them to get the friendly fire mod. I didn't realize how badly I was screwing my team as bolt staff sienna until I installed it and saw the constant 250-300 FFs
if you're so autistic about friendly fire then maybe don't stand in front of my projectiles?
>>355829098I'm gonna buy winds of magic just so I can friendly fire my axe between your black, soulless eyes oathbreaker
>>355829087pedoniggers must hang
>>355829336Not an elf, and I don't play cata anymore. Enjoy your wasted $20. I'll be enjoying my life mining in space
>>355830984The patch is still so far away
>>355831331Gives me plenty of time to catch up to everyone
>>355831813Catch up how? It's not like there is much to unlock
>an unspoken whiff of romance between Cerrilian the archer and Kroober the proud knight. All carefully separated from reality, and thus old Franz safe from the doghouse.Lohner should write about stormvermin warlords claiming elf instead, that wouldn't piss off her as much.
>>355832080Been playing other stuff, so I'm not exactly maxed out yet
>>355829278>>355829945>>355827760literally every thread those are only insults i see from elf fagsdid someone ever tell you the definition of insanity?
>>355832337are you this desperate for attention?
why is every career with 'knight' in its name played by literal brain damaged retards?
I need to eat bbl
why is every career with "nig" in its name played by literal brain damaged retards?
>>355806929Garbage take.Good luck headshotting with diagonally slashing weapons you retard
>>355795323Hope you didn't pay $60 for evolve2 (back 4 blood)
>>355806929>line up a javelin on a rat train>get 10 headshots at once
>>355836006>stop shooting me Kerillian!
>>355835004i hope this post is a joke and you don't actually just give up on getting headshots if you can't attack perfectly vertically/horizontally
>>355838025I don't but it's definitely not a metric of skill, nor is any "circle" maybe save for revives.They are only here to spot abnormalities like 400FF, 2000 damage taken and such.
i always shoot saltzpyres in the back to increase their damageno i don't care if you're not a zealot
>>355839373NOOOOOO MY 2 TEMP HEALTH FUCKING ELVES REEEEE *spergs out and start friendly firing*
>>355839842don't make mistakes due to negligence and you won't be punished for the mistakes you made due to negligence
>>355833871does "nig" count if its in reverse?>enGINeer
>>355839373holy shit you're a bad player
>>355839842you hit me once I hit you once, problem?
>>355842697sure, OE is an honorary nig
>>355839373>has to walk point blank to hit his shotJesus you're trash
>>355843948>Saltz didn't shoot initially since Sienna was in the way>Delayed a bit longer to get a beastman in line to deleteReal wutelgi energy in your post. Can't take FF back then?Elf decides to shoot through me or into melee combat with a Moonbow? Shoot them back to take the same or more HP - its the only way those filthy knife ears will learn
>>355839373>loses 2 health due to FF>is just before the monster trigger>hears a beastmen banner coming>what's the best course of action?>deletes a teammate and wastes ult potentially throwing the whole game
>>355835004>diagonally slashing weaponsyou're a shitter, those are the best for headshotsexamples: bret ls, rapier, sword and dagger
In B4B you can see the character flip their gun on the side and shoot, why? What is the implication of such action?
>>355846073it’s trending in fps games somewhat recent that your character will do this while crouching. The only reason I can think that they would do this is a visual indication that you have changed stance
>>355846073they've activated nigga mode
>zero lore updates regarding Saltzpyre aside from mysterious fish hat Kruber masterfully crafted for him>constant mention of undead and Sienna's sisterI reckon it is time give up on idea of warrior priest for now and wonder what will Sienna get?
>>355847872Ulrican FurfagWarrior Priestess of Myrmidia
You ever look at the stalkers in KF and just think....man I want to RAPE that?
You ever look at the elf in Vermintide and just think....man I want to RAPE that?
backwanna try doing the empires resurgent challenges? the frame looks cool
>>355845580>potentially throwing the whole gameabsolutely worth
>>355850316Sure broJust gimme a secGotta change my gear real quick...
incels in full force tonight seemsyou should really reflect on your actions and ask yourself "is this how I want to treat my fellow teammates?"I am not telling you how to play the game and how to have fun, so why are you being toxic to me when I'm having fun my way?real tired of these control freaks ruining the game
>>355851570I hear shit all the time when I call people out on it>lol FF doesn't matter>don't worry about a few FF points when I'm saving you health>fuck off>who cares about FF?If they don't give a shit about shooting through you to get more kills, then complain when I shoot them back with a>I am not telling you how to play the game and how to have fun, so why are you being toxic to me when I'm having fun my way?I don't want to play with people like you. Occasional FF happens and is fine, but if you make a habit out of it you deserve to get curbstomped. Its the only way you'll learn. Or not
https://www.vermintide.com/news/franz-lohners-chronicle-a-message-from-okribit of lore on the new miniboss variants. Also:>Should be fun. Worthy of song, even. Might even have another crack at poetry, if I’m stirred to it. Five Go Slaughtering Monsters. Not sure about that as a title, but you’ve got to start somewhere. Of course, I’ll have to be a bit more circumspect about the particulars this time. I don’t want to set Kerillian off, as she’s not one to respect the bounds of poetic licence. We’ll keep it all anonymous this time around. Yes! That’s the stuff of folk tales: desperate danger, slavering monsters, plucky heroes - an unspoken whiff of romance between Cerrilian the archer and Kroober the proud knight. All carefully separated from reality, and thus old Franz safe from the doghouse.Still canon.
>>355852709fuck I hate these mongoloids who wear a mask but don't cover their nose, like what the fuck is the purpose if you don't cover all your breathing orifices???
What's promised in U35? 4 new main weapons (with overclocks I presume) and a new game mode?
>>355857460even if your schizo theories ended up being true that wouldn't change the fact that they are right
>>355858283Eye for an eye treehugger
>>355851904Sorry broGtgDinners ready
>>3558578894 main weapons, a new mission type that involves those drones/robots and the rest is unknown. They mentioned that it's gonna be the biggest update to the game>Update 35 will be the largest update the game’s received to date, >We believe Update 35 will set the direction for where Deep Rock Galactic will go from here, and we can’t wait to properly show off all we have in store for you. We’ve already shown you the new weapons, but there is much more.>The new mission type has grown way beyond our original scope and ambition for it, and we are honestly pretty stoked about where it’s going.
ahahahahaha... ahahahahahahahaahhaha... hahahahhHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA HAHAHAHAAA
>>355852709>All carefully separated from realitythere it is
>>355861578Mmmm tasty javelins.
>>355862279god i love playing zealot w/ pubs just for this
I just bought the forgotten relics shit for the griffonfoot, are any of the other weapons worth caring about? I messed with them in the keep a bit and the most fun weapon seems to be the trollhammer but it also seems like a mememoonfire is obviously very strong but I've always hated it and will always use the longbow instead, the spear and shield and the new staff both look like copies of existing weapons with minor different details
>>355863435all of them are good.maybe except corus staff. not being able to snipe w/ sienna is very annoying to me
>>355863435new staff is one of the most unique weapons in the game. Staff is fantastic on Cata and above, the only real problem it has is special sniping, Once you get used to putting up geysers it's a great tool for removing mixed hordes, the regular enemies will die while the elites will be softend up. It also does pretty good monster damage if you keep the monster in the flames which is easy if the team is not mentally challenged. Bosses like Rasknitt,Bodvarr and Helscourge also melt because they're stationary most of the time
>>355863435all of them are meta
>>355863435trollhammer torpedo is fantastic on ironbreaker, staggers bosses, deletes patrols and with an arc can save teammate trapped behind a ledgemoonfire applies fire damage over time effect, pretty good damage and worthy of cata, also has tendency to friendly fire your teammates with charged shotspear shield is alright on Kruber, good for equipping your merc bot, has a nice horde clear and you can poke enemies behind the shield with alt attack
>>355863435coonfire is aids and youre a gentleman for disavowing it
>Playing Convocation>It's going smooth>Then, everyone drops down and scatters>Get overwhelmed and eliminated one by oneSometimes I wish Legend pubs were less retarded.
>>355867540Why would you not always wish that?
>>355867757Because it can feel good when I carry the team and it satisfies my ego.If I wanted more competent teammates, I'd just play Cata instead.
>>355857460cope.go perform autofellatio somewhere else.
>>355867919So why did you complain about them here?No one gives a fuck
>>355867919why didn't you carry them?convocation is one of the easiest to circlestrafe and clutchmaybe you're just as retarded as them?
>pic relwhat do
>>355879210press F and die
How exactly are slayers (or the dwarf in general) meant to deal with hordes?Two handed weapons are great to hack at a single enemy with their downward strike, and dualwielding seems to let me hit two at best with a single hit.Just grab grimnirs focus, spam heavies and hope I outheal the occasional hit? No other class is giving me such a hard time to figure it out
>>355884605greataxe and greathammer heavies. Axe will kill more enemies in a single swing but will not stagger everone while the hammer will most often kill a couple of enemies and stagger everything else it touches. Coghammer lights mulch hordes. So use coghammer lights for horde and take out the greathammer for mixed hordes or if there are a lot of elites so you can stagger them with heavies. I personally use greataxe and greathammer, I use greataxs 90% of the time and take out the hammer if the horde is too dense or mixed and when there are massed elites. Once you get the rhythm of the greataxe and greathammet heavies down you'll kick ass, keep in mind that you can release heavy charging much sooner when your attack speed is boosted. Greathammer heavies are pretty safe so eating a hit means you messed up the rhythm or didn't pay attantion
>>355884605what the fuck are you talking about, slayer has the exact same tools for controlling hordes as every other career: pushing, dodging, stagger
>>355884605dual hammers if you wanna go thousand cuts, otherwise you are stuck with double handed weps
>>355870049>why didn't you carry them?Because I was trying out a career I wasn't particularly used to.
>>355884605I have no idea what you mean. Slayer with 2-handers melts hordes. Just use heavies and you should be fine. But if you have to ask theres a chance that you are doing something very wrong.Pic related is the build that I use, doesn't matter if im running one-handed or two-handed weapons.
anyone has good footage of WHC with rapier? Im trying but it just looks like either the weapon deals no damage or is oneshotting.I'd love to see some tips like parry+alt.shot
bros where do we find b4b games when the campaign takes 30+ mins per act and if anyone is stupid you're just stuck babysitting them because the sunk time. people keep dying and leaving my vet games
>>355892625Rapier does ass damage by default, however it has a massive headshot/crit, not to mention WHC's auto-kill on crit headshot and flense. Aim for the head.
>>355884605your horde clearing weapons are greathammer, coghammer and dual hammers, you can see in armory which attacks, heavies or lights, cleavehow fucking new are you?
>into the nest>stormfiend laugh>elf immediately leaves to go grab a grimoire>gets grabbed by a packrat>gets freed>immediately downed
>>355892625You're trading damage for speed and precision
>>355884605Step 1: get dual hammersStep 2: push L1, H2 H3Step 3: get shot in the back by 3 different ranged classes
>>355894237mine is a tale of heroism mayflies >:)you merely share it
What non-dlc elf class has the fewest braincells?
>>355739964I can do the same thing on FK but with bret longsword/ M&S and instead of bashing them around, I actually kill them.
>>355894425i should go for headshot and least damage taken green circles?
>>355895043Shades are all just friendly fire moonbow spammers
>>355615779>stelt GG flashbacks intensify
>>355890117>Pic related is the build that I use, doesn't matter if im running one-handed or two-handed weapons.>Skull-Splitter with onehanders
>>355895043Waystalker, by far. Her ulti is a panic button deleter, and all her abilities encourage her to chase green circles at the expense of paying attention to the actual game.Shade and Handmaiden at least require you to be capable of melee combat. Especially Shade, which encourages you to set up backstabs,
>>355898072Shade with Dual Knives is decent for learning/encouraging tactical engagements, since only being able to hit one dude at a time requires a 'guerillla' hit-n-run playstyle.
>>355879210Sir Kruber will save your ass one gentle breeze away from death.
>>355899358based SIR KROOBAH HAHA
>>355898262that's a nice crosshair
>>355900172the tiny colorless dot for melee really made it hard for me to score precise hits so I much prefer this one
>>355895043Handmaiden imo. Waystalker is ranged so idiots get poked by single enemies because they are too obsessed on spamming arrows, Shade still has only 120 max so too many pokes equals death. Handmaiden can have 150 health, easy attack speed bonus from talents, low cooldown instant reposition dash, and stamina regen+dodge distance.
>>355898072>Shade, which encourages you to set up backstabs,For normal people, but to the elf brain shade encourages to never actually be useful because that would need them to think a little so they just chuck spears until a boss pops up
>>355897974I though it would be obvious that you switch to the other one if you want to go one-handed
>>355809832>Aliens got some discussion but lack of quickplay killed it pretty fast despite a new class being added, now that we have quickplay perhaps it will start againDoubtful. It's still recognizably bleeding people and even using quickplay has started giving me empty lobbies rather than finding a full group.
S-SIR GOOBER... ha-ha...
>>355890117What's the numbers on the stagger/kill talents anywayAre they even the same or do they vary from class to class? Feels like Zealots always get full temphp just from slapping slaves
>>355901497Wait did she diss herself
>>355901464>Feels like Zealots always get full temphp just from slapping slavesyou fucking donkey read zealot's level 20 talents
>>355901497explain to esl, when she's talking about elf, she's talking about herself in third person ye? and by wasted effort with the elf does she mean that kruber is trying to flirt with her and she turned his efforts down or what exactly?
>>355901650>>355901897Oh heck I never noticed the Bardin line says "Kerillian" it's the dwarf VA here.
>>355901953yeah I was little confused about the azumgifucking fartshart
>>355898441>Shade with Dual Knives is decent for learning/encouraging tactical engagements,I didn't find that to be the case. At most, it just encourages you to dance around enemies, but Handmaiden does the same thing better.>>355900771>so they just chuck spears until a boss pops upThat requires DLC, and we're talking about non-DLC Elf.That said, Shade does attract shitters due to its edgy aesthetic.
>>355901692Oh, didn't realize that counts as healing
>>355892625Rapier is WHC's best weapon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY2YcTA2_w4
>>355895338You should go for whatever helps the team famalamadingdong
>>355904154He's canceling his shots but they still draw aggro?
I'm really fucking sick of enemy hitboxes going miles beyond their actual model, I'm like to Chaos Spawns in length from an enemy and still hits me.
>>355906476what do you mean? I think it's perfectly fair that the attack hitbox extends behind the actual model
Is fear by itself reliable for cc? Tired of building sticky duration and thought I’d try a 12311 lighter tanks build. I’d use a better oc but I don’t have one
>>355911212no, unless its like shock, freeze, or stun, cc in general is really bad, especially on flamer
>>355906476Just dodge lol
>>355913009>use common sense and dodge back until the rat is a tiny dot in the distance>actually this doesn't work and you eat a full healthbar of damage from across the mapebig
Sienna is the most fun with UnchainedKerillian is best for putting in fetish art
>>355914484>dodge backAnon, I...
>>355915321Meant for >>355913906
Alright Should I commission more Kerillian fat art?
>>355914484>>355915321>>355915484>actually dodging doesn't work at all with vt2's dark souls 2 tier trackingjej
Beastmen are still just stupid. They need to get rid of the headbutt attack that looks exactly like a stagger animation. Also beastigor's should take out say 4 shields of stamina and not everything you have. Archers need finite ammo. And the damn minotaur needs real turn speeds or animations.
just got a red greatsword for saltz. I’ve never used his greatsword, is it any good or should I scrap it?
I dunno why I didn't think to start using this mask again earlier in the month
>>355923463Saltz GS might be the worst weapon in the game right now
The respawn point in Forth Brachsenbrucke is scary, lads
>>355923463only good on zealot
i like the masterwork pistol
>>355915946YesWhere can I find the stuff you've already commissioned?
>>355922353Beastmen being in a level already gives you a greater chance of wiping, they're fucking retarded.>hyperstack like no one's business >they have mid range attacks that will poke the shit out of you while being hyperstacked making their hordes more difficult>fucking flag bearers will just spawn out of nowhere and fuck your entire run in an instant if your whole team doesn't have bombs
>>355917873if they're doing a horizontal attack dodge back, if they're doing a vertical attack dodge to the sideit's that simple
>400 shillings away from buying the only WHC hat that matches with his legend outfithow do I cope with being ugly for a month?
>>355928592play something else so you dont burn yourself out on whc
>ratgame>qp>huntsman>zealot>trannymaiden>lose all will to play
Average Handmaiden vs Best Cuntsman in Cata
nurgloth's finale phase is the most cancerous shit ever put in a video game
>4 player game>3 players go down>game immediately spawns 10 assassins, 10 packmasters, and 10 life leecheswhy is fatshark like this
>>355928456Even if I have miles between us, very based game design
>somebody gets lightning in chaos wastes>enjoyment plummets to zero as he runs around soloing the mapevery time
>>355935780SnD or spear?
>>355937465>if(player further than 1000u from other players)>spawn disabler;Here you go, ripped directly from fartshart code
>>355937682sorry your fish eye lens tier FOV isn't getting information to you properly and that you can't just constantly run away from enemies.
>>355936640Take your meds my man
>>355906009He does it a lot at 5:20
What are the drop rates for veteran/red items? I've been playing for a few days on champ and haven't opened one.
>>355949113The worst legend chest has better chances for reds than the best champ chest. Don't bother farming reds on champ
>>355938991Yep, it sucks. It should be rarer and nerfed with a cooldown.
>>355949113anything below vault has chances so low you probably won't see reds for a long time. Play Legend Chaos wastes for best emperor vault farming, you'll get 2 guaranteed emperor vaults per run and most often a third one or a general vault
>>355962826Emperors chests(champ) and Commendation chests have about 1% for a redAnything below that is 0%Generals vaults around 3%Emp vaults around 7%
>>355948328anon you do realize rapier has a special attack that you execute by pressing the special attack button, right? and yes enemies you shoot at are aggroed even if you miss
>>355949113>champthere's your problem
bros just played modded vermintide with 19 people it was fun
>>355966862not that anon but you can check it out on youtubeu, saw a dawi ironbreaker only retaking of Karak gnol with a big squad
>>355967021no, proof of it being fun
>>355966816>18 people carrying me is more fun than 3 people carrying menothing new under the hood
fucking kek the gun is bigger than him
>>355968680>what is fow
>>355970320what is it?
>>355970540field of woof
>>355970540Field of water
>>355970540Fog of war
>>355970741>>355970879>>355971772what's the relevance to my post though?
she's turned the raki against us
>>355972952I think he meant field of view and how things get stretchy arpund corners of the screen.
>>355974402that's literally not what FoV means thoughthe more accurate word would be "perspective"
Is it just me or does Sienna feel like "the 5th wheel"Shes definitely the least played character but I dont really see anyone talking about her in general, just the other 4
>>355979461Imo her non-dlc weapons are kinda boring
>>355979461mage who canonically is the strongest of ubersreik 5 coincidentally is also the most boring to play, having the same repeating combos and shuff
>>355980268>Sienna keeps mentioning Estalia / Tilea and how she grew up there>even her martial tutor was from Estia (Bastello)you would think fatshark would throw her a bone a give a rapier at least?
>>355980793flame rapier could be a neat thing to have with her dlc, instead of a pistol the alt fire shoots a stream of flame
>>355979461I find her irritating in VT2. I didn't mind her in VT1 but even though everyone got flanderized to hell she is really annoying now. I can't stand her "Darlings!" she now shouts every fucking second and I don't like her ultimate voicelines either.
>>355981540I still like Sienna but I agree. She was less annoying in VT1
>>355981137>flame rapier>just like the normal rapier, but heavy 1 is an aoe stagger that can knock cw off their feetNeat
>>3558846051h hammer, literally his best melee
>>355985913Think it'd have a special attack like the rapier's pistol?
>>3559878311H hammer is a great weapon but still slightly worse than dual hammers or coghammer
>try out 2handed sword with Kruber because everyone says how great weapon it is>just trade countless hits with because the weapon is so fucking slow slow weapons are unusable in this game, maybe it the game didn't magically place enemies directly behind you mid attack animation ever 3 seconds
>>355992512I would understand if you had problems with halberd but greatsword has the simplest moveset, just time your attacks man.