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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #3845 - Mind-altered Henchmen Edition

>Sonic News<
IDW Sonic 40 is out NOW!

Summer Game Fest Sonic Unleashed Orchestra
https://mobile.twitter.com/summergamefest/status/1403073369185021953

IDW 41 preview pages
https://mobile.twitter.com/IDWSonicNews/status/1402681515004289027

Iizuka talks Colors Ultimate
https://nintendoeverything.com/sonic-colors-ultimate-devs-on-the-games-return-and-tails-save-feature-series-30th-anniversary-more/

Tails Assist in Sonic Colors Ultimate
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1400246225576906755

Details on IDW Sonic June Slate
https://mobile.twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/1400178913729462275

Sonic as a demon in SMT: Liberation Dx2
https://mobile.twitter.com/sonicstadium/status/1400142594164891651

Sonic Central 5/27/21
https://youtu.be/lwjPEcWU5Fc

New mainline game coming in 2022
https://youtu.be/Ppyle5XOyY4

Sonic Origins collection coming 2022
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1397948389501943815?s=20

New Speed Battle events coming
https://twitter.com/SEGAHARDlight/status/1397950029491544068?s=20

Sonic Colors: Rise of the Wisps 2-part Animation coming this summer
https://youtu.be/3TI6s6Wp5p0

Sonic Colors Ultimate launching September 7
https://youtu.be/Z3MCqTdsVKc

Sonic the Fighters playable in Lost Judgement
https://twitter.com/RGGStudio/status/1397947251067064329?s=20

IDW release dates:
41 - June 16
30th Anniversary Special - June 23
42 - July 7
43 - July 28
30th Anniversary FCBD - August 14
44 - August 25

>General Interest Links<
General link compilation
https://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W

/sthg/ booru:
http://sthg.booru.org

/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytu/be/r/sthg (replace / between u and b with a dot)

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summeru
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Are any of you going to the meetup tomorrow?
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Let us discuss Sonic Mania, the really good 2D Sonic game.
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>>339050219
Not tomorrow's, no.
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>>339050150
Every time I see Silver I am reminded that he isn't real and that genuinely depresses me.
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Now that the Richmunkless Rally4Sally has crashed and burned, I think it's time for us as a fanbase to apologize to Richmunk, the man who was right and did nothing wrong.
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Reminder to vote Henchmen
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Future facts:
>Sonic Rangers will be worse than Forces.
>Colors Ultimate will get the best scores of any Modern title since Generations.
>Memes are going nowhere, we're in for another decade of them.
>Adventure will never, ever, EVER return.
>Classic will continue to get shilled as it's the KANTOOO of Sonic.
>Prime will pull an IDW and introduce new characters just for the sake of going over mandates. Will have the exact same problems just in animated form.
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>>339050434
Already will
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>>339050219
Every time I say I'm going to join the meetup, but every time I click the link and get to the little join room and see all the people in there, I start getting really nervous and it feels like there's a lump in my thoat and I just can't take it so I just close Chrome and start groaning.
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Jokes about bloating the roster aside, what would you guys want out of an Adventure 3?
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>>339050853
classic sonic
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>>339050853
Wisps
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>>339050853
Amy getting cucked by a new shitty friend like Elise in the first Adventure 3 except this time it isn't erased.
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>>339050427
>Made all Archiefans and SatAM fags "diapershitters" by mere association
>Gets on podcasts and lives rent-free in the minds of ecelebs
>Uses this general's donut steels for his Sonic ABDL fanfiction
>Crashes every SatAM project
>Now left the Rally4Sally movement to crash and burn as well
I kneel....
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>>339050412
Why are you wasting your life time on him you could do so much better
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http://segabits.com/blog/2021/06/10/unannounced-super-monkey-ball-banana-mania-leaks-platforms-via-brazils-classification-board/
Could this be what Sega is announcing at E3?
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Call me paranoid but does the Zavok/Shadow spammer have anything to do with the hessefag?
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>>339050427
A Rally4Bartleby wouldn't have failed.

Just sayin' bitch.
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>>339050853
A new hedgehog to make kino sprite fight animations about. By the way, Nazo is wiping the floor with Seelkadoom
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>>339050427
>Richmunk apologist
Lol no
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>>339051630
He's literally not a person though he's a weapon, he doesn't even have real feelings
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>>339051339
>New Super Monkey Ball
Let me guess, it's mediocre to crap and is nowhere near as good as the first two titles like all the other Monkey Ball games?
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Sonic
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>>339051850
Just like Sonic
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Hello, have you heard of our lord and savior, Pink Sonic?
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>>339048639
>shitmunk tricked people with fake email
>someone who was just in it for the attention takes over after
It was DOA, they just never knew it.
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>>339051874
Sonic has 4 good games. That''s double the amount.
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>>339051339
Yeah this has been known and expected for ages. It was already on the Emuland classification board a while ago, and before that it was already basically announced through the old announcer guy and the sperg on youtube that vandalized Sega Sammy's lobby.
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>>339051882
No, but I have heard of out patron saint Blue Amy
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>>339051621
Why does he make you seethe so hard Jacob?
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>>339051934
Too bad it'll never happen.
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>>339052035
>the sperg on youtube that vandalized Sega Sammy's lobby.
explain
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>>339052035
>that vandalized Sega Sammy's lobby
I'm familiar with the guy but I don't know what you're referencing, here, what did he do?
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>>339052035
>sperg on youtube that vandalized Sega Sammy's lobby
sauce plz
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>>339051415
Based
God bless Bardonic, silvazeposter, and the United States of America.
>>339051621
Why don't you visit us anymore?
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>>339052210
>>339052246
>>339052374
30 minutes of pure autism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pNBsPb0ZLM0
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>>339052648
isn't this the guy who leaked Sonic Rangers' name and also said all Sonic games are shit
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Silver
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>>339052648
oh this guy. when you said "vandalized" I was expecting another DON'T CALL ANYBODY moment
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>>339053150
loser
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>>339053290
I don't want to.
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>>339053290
Who's the meat in this sandwich?
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>>339052440
Visit what?
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>>339053380
jirard is that piece of chicken you get where there's a huge piece of cold, slimy, skin left on
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>>339052061
While searching for a pic of both of them together I came across this unholy abomination.
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>>339050427
Just read that shit. Dude that twitlonger is genuinely fucking hilarious, and he even did it on the R4S account. He threw in the towel purely after the one time in his life of not wanting attention after being outed among his fellow narcissist tranny buddies. He really is a professional victim.
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>>339053534
don't talk shit about da classics
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>>339052648
I wish I had enough disposable income to just go to Japan for the sole purpose of harassing a company that does not care about me
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>>339053508
Us, here, in the general.
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>>339053150
So leave get a job get a hobbie suck a dick do something
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>>339052648
this is so cringy
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>>339053534
Now I know why Eggman Hates Furries
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>>339053534
Reminds me of that artist that draws weird shit like Amy transformed into Rotor wearing Sonic that was transformed into a condom and cumming so much the condom breaks killing Sonic, and Amy transformed into Bowser fusing with tails and morphing him into her testicles and inserting Sonic transformed into a blue penis into the hole as the penis. Is this the same person?
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>>339054241
I think I had a stroke reading this
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>>339054241
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Objectively speaking, which games are more broken and glitchy, modern games or classic games?
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>>339054896
The one that has Sonic 06
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>>339052648
Traveling looks kinda fun. But I'd never be able to, and I'd be scared
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>>339053781
This isn't even the first time he traveled to Japan for something monkey ball related either.
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>>339054896
Modern, namely because there's a lot more broken modern game than there are total classic games.
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What's so bad about the later Monkey Ball games exactly? I only played the first one
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>>339055187
guard rails
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I know what to do to fix this franchise.

COVID has made lots of people jobless right? I know damn well some of you need a job. We should become game journos and overly praise Sonic as much as possible to fight back against game journos. Honestly, game journos don't do jack shit besides write about games and shit. So it would be a pretty easy job and we get to fight back against those fucks. What do you say, /sthg/?
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>>339055251
fuck you
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>>339055187
Everything after the first two games is literally babby's first arcade game.
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>>339055251
Sure, I'd do it.
Who's paying me though? Certainly not Sega.
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Maybe if we ask really politely for Sega to make a good Sonic game they will do it.
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>>339055251
I feel like that's the point to most youtube channels
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>>339054896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo1e7N75RXU
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>>339055435
IGN, Gamespot, etc.

And besides, other game companies are gonna pay a lot if you say good things about their games.
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>>339055514
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>>339055187
>level design made for retards
>shitty motion controls
>jumping
>boss battles
>inferior minigames
There's also Super Monkey Ball Adventure which is just a complete fucking trainwreck like Sonic Adventure. Anyway we'll immediately know if the new game is fucked if there are rails.
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>>339055941
Sonic Adventure is good
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>>339056048
laugh at this man
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>>339054012
Please don't remind me of that game
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>>339056097
kek
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>>339054241
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>>339056048
lol
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>>339056097
that's pretty awesome
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>>339056097
Sorry, even a rat has standards.
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>>339056317
If its good then why the hell not? Make a trash or b thread and post it there.
>>339056097
>>339056125
What's the joke here
>>339056195
We know what she looks like so descriptors won't be an issue.
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>>339056624
One married her.
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>>339056643
>What's the joke here

Her husband's online persona is a possum and his screen name is PapaOpossum
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>>339056643
She draws her husband as a possum.
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https://twitter.com/Kitsuoi1/status/1403163251144159234?s=20
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>>339057083
Creep shot but cool
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>Sonic's name alludes to sound
>Shadow's name alludes to light (or the absence of it)
>Silver's name alludes to a color (ignore that there's a metal with the same name) which is a result of the interaction between light and the visual processing system
If a new hedgehog was introduced, what would it's name be? I assume, in keeping with the pattern, it would allude to the byproduct of sound and the auditory processing system, but what?
Also ignore the fact Amy exists; her name is so simply because she's a girl and so it doesn't count.
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>>339057083
can these motherfuckers stop leaking the entire movie

I want some shit not revealed yet like there being a possibility of Metal or Shadow or whatever
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>>339057629
Tails wasn't leaked until the movie had already had it's premiere so it's possible the sets would relocate to somewhere more discreet so the post-credits could have it's impact.
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>>339057824
Other guy silly
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System Shock 2 > Deus Ex
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>>339057824
have you never heard of plastic surgery? james is a method actor and sonic 2 has a time skip
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>>339057881
Wow the interior of a hotel when we know Tom is going to Hawaii
Riveting
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What is Sonic's range of emotions?
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>>339058932
Sad
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>>339058932
Expressions Sonic should have:
>Happy.
>Cocky.
>Determined.
>Annoyed.
>Confused.
>Upset.

Expressions Sonic should NOT have:
>Scared.
>Doubtful.
>Creepy.
>Sad.
>Villainous.

These are simple rules. If you can't follow them, than don't write Sonic.
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seeing twitter checkmarks trying to reinforce "sonic bad because rough transition to 3D XD" and coming into conflict with the army of zoomer sonic fans who like those game is beautful.
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>>339056810
No, you gotta go look
>>339057572
Sound huh? What a coincedence. I have a male hedgehog OC, and I based him around electrokinesis since we don't really have that yet in canon, and wouldn't you know, I named him Static. I'd say that kinda fits?
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>>339058932
not evan
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>>339059190
In my fic sonic is scared and sad because Tails is injured, and I'm trying to decide if I made sonic too out of character.
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>>339059190
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>>339059190
Those latter emotions CAN work under specific circumstances, but that would require a deeper understanding of the character and setting from an incredibly skilled writer - something we haven't had in this franchise for over two decades.
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>>339059692
more than buddies haha
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>>339059692
You just know
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>>339059508
Tails is literally Sonic's best friend for life. He couldn't live with himself if something bad happened to him.
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>>339059545
There is no situation in which Sonic should be scared or doubtful unless he's faced with Water.
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>>339059692
what if yoshi had trouble pooping an egg and silver had to use his powers to get it out haha how embarrassing haha
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>>339059508
your fic also has tails getting his arms ripped off. I don't think characterization matters too much here, anon
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>>339059754
I'm kind of thinking of taking the story in a direction where even though tails is the one injured, seeing how sonic reacts to it makes him uncomfortable. He's used to sonic being happy and cocky. Now that he's injured he sees a side of sonic he hasn't really seen before. He then takes it upon himself to try to help sonic out emotionally, despite being the injured one physically.
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>>339059921
Why? Just because it's a scenario SEGA wouldn't approve of?
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>>339059754
Disagree. Sonic would literally straight face Tails dying. He'd be upset but remain stoic and keep moving forward.

In Lost World when Tails gets kidnapped Sonic is angry for all of a minute and then goes back to normal until the subject is brought up, in which he gets ticked off.
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>>339059883
Who's the top?
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>>339060009
I don't know. I didn't actually think about what I was saying
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>>339060006
Sounds cool
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>>339060034
do you have an example from a well written story instead?
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>>339059981
When is he scared or doubtful in those games?
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>>339059545
>for over two decades.
More like never. Sonic isn't a deep series.
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https://twitter.com/reelnewshawaii/status/1403177281648926722?s=20
Sonic Movie 2 Hawaii set images
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>>339060237
hawaii is quite possibly the most boring place on earth
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>>339060162
The Tornado gets shot down in Sonic 2 and Sonic does not even give a shit.
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>>339060225
Doesn't have to be deep to be good.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles had a good story.
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WHY IS SONIC NOT SMILING HERE?!!! SONIC BROS HELP ME! HE MADE A DIFFERENT EXPRESSION, AIIIIEEEE!!
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>>339060448
Not canon
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Could Sonic Unleashed have been saved?
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>>>339060271
kill yourself
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>>339060271
It makes a lot of sense thematically though. Palm trees/tropical settings are a recurring theme for Sonic. A lot of the first levels are tropical themed. Sonic CD, heroes, adventure, 06... I'm sure I've forgotten about a few.
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>>339060584
canon
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>>339060584
That's just how he is retard, he's not forced to act like anything, stop projecting.
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>>339060483
Canon
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>>339060271
ikr? I could literally just look at pictures of it on the internet
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>>339059545
>2 decades
Sonic isn’t that deep to require much writing talent, they’re are far more franchises that have more writing talent than sonic, it’s just that most writers think sonic is supposed to be more than what he actually is, he’s just a less retarded luffy flat character company mascot
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>Fans actually asking for Sonic to be OOC.
If you don't like Sonic for who he is than this series is not for you.
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NOOOOooo! He should be smiling no matter what!!! AIEEEEEE!!!!
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>>339060820
this
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>>339060679
Just say you don't understand the fucking character and be done with it. Fuck off with trying to make him something he's not and shouldn't be.
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>>339060237
>snow in hawaii
Oh my fucking god are we seriously doing the ring chase scene again
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>>339060883
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>>339060950
He's a simple and fun character and that's what makes him good
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>>339060679
Archie gave Sonic "a natural range of emotions" and it sucked ass.
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>>339060820
Exactly. Sonic cares deeply about his friends and has never been afraid to show it.
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>>339060950
>Depth =/= Changing the character entirely
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Is Amy immune to being a sadsack character like Sonic?
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>>339060431
I never said it had to be. I'm just pointing out that it was never that deep to begin with
>that would require a deeper understanding of the character and setting from an incredibly skilled writer - something we haven't had in this franchise for over two decades.
Quotes like these make me think the people who care so much about story in this series really haven't read much outside of Sonic.
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>>339059190
>sonic cant be scared
Thats bullshit. But sonic being scared is so fucking inconsistant that people end up getting confused on what hes scared of and what hes not. Look at pic related.
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>>339060518
it's just palm trees and water
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>>339061015
>Archie gave Sonic "a natural range of emotions"
While also going against his character.
You need to have emotions while also remaining in character. Something almost every Sonic comic has struggled (and continues to struggle) with.
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>>339061150
>Is Amy immune to being a sadsack character
Yes
>like Sonic?
No.
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>>339061021
Sonic does not show care in large grand gestures. The girl he loves gets a flower literally picked off the ground at MOST.
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>>339061238
More like SHITNIC the poopy peepee
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>>339059190
>Sonic's not allowed to be sad
If bayonetta can literally fucking cry TWICE in the bayo OVA, than so can sonic. But only on very rare occasions.
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>>339061367
His entire story with Elise was about showing a grand gesture
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>>339059508
Sonic shouldn't really express that, but he should be deeply troubled and concerned about what happened to Tails. Sonic trying to downplay the situation for Tails' sake should be a conflict. But don't forget Sonic is also someone who is very empathetic when it matters.
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>>339061541
And it was considered one of the worst Sonic stories in the franchise.
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>>339061541
The opposite. He took her on what is a common adventure for him. The biggest moment they have is in a damn grassland, just chilling. Nothing grand about that.
>>339061680
Based
>>339061238
Based
>>339061362
Elaborate on both fronts
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>>339060237
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>>339061927
Yes because he's a miserable sadsack
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>>339061205
They really haven’t, if sonicfags hail mediocre stories like black knight (bad self insert isekai) and SA2 (Mediocre Action story with many plot holes) as peak writing then I refuse to believe they ever took their eyes off this franchise once because then they’ll realize they were on the kiddie pool this entire time
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>>339061850
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Sonic's character is actually quite complicated because there is a very tough line between making Sonic look too detached with his confidence that makes him look like an asshole or being too emotional where he doesn't act like how he's supposed to be: Because Sonic is supposed to be "cool", but that doesn't mean being too cool for certain things.
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>>339061965
>i-it's self insert because i say it is
Fuck off. Anything can be considered self insert with you idiots.
>plot holes
sa2 doesnt have legitimate plotholes kek
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>>339062094
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>>339061786
Amy is never sad, unlike Sonic who's always brooding and pretending he doesn't care
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>paragonchads mindbroke shitposters into spamming sonicry images
>they will always be sadsacks while chadnic reigns supreme
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>>339061965
Nobody (sane) is holding it up as high art. Stories like Adventure, Battle, and Black Knight are good by Sonic standards, which is a very low bar to begin with.
Sonic is capable of so much more and yet it's wasted away by SEGA.
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Remember when they literally shonen-ified fucking scooby doo? People literally died on screen several times on that show. What cant sonic be written like that? I feel like kishimoto/iizuka dont understand what they can and cannot show to children
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>>339062421
BASED BASED BASED.
We can't stop winning Paragonbros
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>>339060883
no, this is for the human actors
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>>339062151
Black Knight is literally Sonic's self-insert fanfic to explain why he missed a date with Amy.
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>>339061965
If you ask me, SA2 and Black Knight was Sonic at his best as a character. The former showed how Sonic handles a tough situation and the latter shows how Sonic answers to tough situation.
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>>339062537
that was awesome
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>>339062063
>N-NOOO MY SELF INSE- I MEAN MY PARAGON!
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>>339061965
Like a lot of things in this franchise the bar is so low for writing that anything that actually tries to be comprehensible is considered praiseworthy. You can enjoy stories in this series, but trying to put them on a pedestal when they've never been anything more than a saturday morning cartoon is just autistic.
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>>339062421
>>339062540
this is the mind of the average paragoner
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>>339062658
Paragon fags look like that?!
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>>339062537
They want to keep Sonic as a safe mascot. He's purely a brand now. Mario suffered the same fate as well. They're all just Mickey Mouse.
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>>339062537
>shonen-ified
I'm convinced Sonicfags don't know what Shonen actually is and just use it to say something is more "serious".
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>>339062658
How is Sonic self insertable if he's an unrelatable paragon?
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>>339062667
>>339062462
>Sonic is capable of so much more
Like what? What's an actual good example of Sonic having high tier, real quality writing, among either side media OR Fanfiction, that doesn't betray his and his friends' characters?
>>339062143
Based
>>339062537
>I feel like kishimoto/iizuka dont understand what they can and cannot show to children
Not even their decision to make, really. Can't blame em after 2005. At least Infinite killed people on-screen.
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the games I like repeatedly get lambasted ensuring that the things I want to see in games will never come back
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Hi
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I have never ever actually seen the sonic 06 cutscenes before. I've never played the game. I'm thinking about watching a video of all the cutscenes. Would any of you like to join me?
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>>339062658
How did you get this picture of me?
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>>339062462
That’s why I said Sonic(paragon)fags sorry, I should have specified
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>be successful franchise in the 90s
>make great games that can rival, and in many ways surpass, the video game icon himself
>allow experimentation
>many successful cartoons and comics
>most successful and longest running video game comic
>great sound tracks and vocal tracks
>great storytelling
>great characters
>great worldbuilding
>great games
>jump to 3d keeping the traditional style and characteristics that made the series what it was, while expanding on it
>western media no longer heavily changed during localization, but the american canon isn't thrown away entirely as the comic continues for several years
>jump to multiplatform, players are no longer forced to own a specific system to enjoy some of the best video games ever made, like the most recent game in the series
>even more 2d games on handhelds
>even more ambitious than before
>many spinoffs
>new gameplay style, boost, featured in some of the most popular games in the series
>collaborating with former rival for the olympic games
>20 years later and the games are still enjoyed by old and new fans alike
>returning locations and characters after many years
>years of experimentation and creativity
>return to the traditional 2d style in a highly successful game
>highly successful video game movie
>ambitious new game announced, merging open world with platformers
>sequel movie in the works
SONIC
IS
JUST
GETTING
STARTED
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>>339062838
Can we address how Silver in the games and Silver in the comics are completely different characters personality-wise?
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>>339062561
We don't know that.
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>>339062767
that's the point. the very fact that he's so perfect means that it's a fantasy they live out in their heads because they know they can never be sonic irl. i honestly feel bad for the poor knightards
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>>339062838
Paragonchads, what's the word on Silver? Sadsack uwu cinnamon roll, or based wannabe stubborn future changer?
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>>339062803
Maybe try not having shit taste?
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>>339062767
The point isn't to be relatable, it's to be what you wish you were.

Same for Shadowcels and Blazecels. It's a power fantasy.
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>>339063021
I tried and then the series got killed off
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>>339062962
They're not. Archie Silver was suitable. IDW Silver in Metal Virus was unironically decent, but starry eyed Whisper-coomer and "stutters to Knuckles" Forces prequel Silver were shit. Fanon has plagued Ian and Evan's minds like a cancer. Is words verbatim he thinks Silver is a cinnamon. I liked Victory Garden though, I think that's as far as it can go.
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Sonic the Hedgehog & Miles "Tails" Prower!
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https://twitter.com/reelnewshawaii/status/1403148061535203331
>James Marsden spotted on Hawaii set
Based Donut Lord rides again
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>>339062928
Here's a great movie of the game :)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NGe79n-jcHk
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>>339062986
The former.
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>>339062967
no no it's true. the sonic 2 plot leaked and said tom and maddie were going on vacation
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>>339063108
Sounds like you had shit taste. The things I like are still alive and based.
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you could be my daddy tonight
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>>339063321
yeah well Minions and Angry Birds and Justin Bieber and Sonic are still alive and those aren't very good
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>>339063160
I thought they ere done recoridng?
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>>339063301
Well yeah obviously. That doesn't mean only Tom and Maddie are going to be in Hawaii.
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>>339063167
What is this exactly?
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>>339063135
Isn't Evan the one who pushes Silver being a cinnamon roll all the way back to her fancomic?
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Hey
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>>339063512
but she doesn't in the official comics
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fuck you
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Niggers
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>>339063401
Yup, but only in Vancouver. I heard they're also heading to Utah for a flight scene, but I'm not entirely sure so take that with a grain of salt
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>>339063569
they tried way too hard with this
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>>339063572
Does he exist in the rewritten timeline? My headcanon? I say he actually dates Elise now.
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>>339063386
>If Silver acted like this in Archie we would've gotten actual conflict between him and Archie Sonic instead of getting pushed around like a dork being shoved in a locker.
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>>339060515
>>replace Werehog with Knuckles
I don't fucking get it. The entire point of the game is Sonic transforming into a werewolf. What's the point in that if you're gonna play something else and not that? That's like playing Mario Odyssey but not being able to use your hat and instead playing as a Toad to replace Cappy.
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inb4 Sonic 2022 is NOT SA3
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>>339062398
>Amy is never sad
That's not true. Amy can be sad. But her expressions of sadness are portrayed as healthy and a show of empathy.
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>>339063572
>tfw Sonic Team was making fun of Sonic self inserters before the fanbase
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>>339060965
No thanks
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>>339063679
SONIC 06 WAS SA3
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Holy shit all the 06 cutscenes put together is 2 hours long. Guess I better start now. If you guys want to join along... https://w2g.tv/219sxhuzifgsys2dnx
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>>339063436
why would sonic and tails be in hawaii with tom, maddie and g.u.n. while robotnik and knuckles are out looking for a chaos emerald
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>>339063649
>Sonic Man becomes Prince Sonic Man and eventually King Sonic Man.
That sounds based thinking about it.
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>>339063762
I hate Dulcey
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Shut up /sthg/
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>>339063660
Honestly jpSilver would have bitched Shartchie sonic around, since he’s a more annoying sonic that is more vulnerable (not a paragonfag btw)
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>>339063741
I thought that was Shadow the Hedgehog?
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>>339063675
Whereas with Mario Cappy is actually a fun and interesting concept no one gives a shit about Hognic. You could honestly just replace that plot point with Eggman using the Master Emerald's negative energy and cracking the world into pieces, the only things that can reverse it are the chaos emeralds. Much better plot
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>>339063848
Why are you making it a competition?
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Can i make a request?
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>>339063942
Soul
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>>339064160
hi bored, I'm anon
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>>339064070
Paragonbros...is he right? Our CHADnic doesn't need to be anything more than a two-dimensional shonen stereotype, right??
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>people bitch endlessly about Sonic crying in Archie
>but when fancomics like GOTF do it it's perfectly fine
If you're going to crusade over Sonic being a depressed sad sack, at least be consistent about it.
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>>339063848
Shadow is to a extend a hero like sonic, IDW is just ian taking his frustrations because he isn’t on the archie freedom table and has mandates on shadow
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>>339063476
>>339063949
why so mindbroken anon?
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>>339064070
This is the weiredest rationalization ive ever seen lol.
Sonic is not a self insert.
He is like the american eagle. A symbol of freedom and determination.
One does not aelf insert as a symbol. Nice cope though, sadsackfag.
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>>339064217
fancomics aren't officially licensed and available to the masses
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>>339064217
Because fancomics aren't official. They don't promote and represent the franchise.
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>>339064205
It's rude to falseflag
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>>339064090
It's a copypasta you newfag.
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/text/arranges%20flowers%20happy/
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>>339064312
>all those adjectives for a 2003 shounen persona
WHEW
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>>339064217
>implying everyyone here even read GOTF or said that portrayal of Sonic was fine.
>comparing a fancomic to official material.
Absolutely pathetic lol
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>>339064341
>>339064374
Neither was Archie.
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What should non-anthropomorphic animals look like in Sonic games?
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>>339064476
Oh. I thought he had something worthwhile to say. Guess he was just another Shadow shitposter that didn't know what he was talking about.
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>>339064503
There's a difference between "official" like a game and "officially licensed." Archie was officially licensed. Please don't be retarded
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>>339064484
>"all these adjectives"
>literally 2
Okay lol
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>>339064638
2 too many, self-insertkek
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>>339064564
Flickies, I guess?
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95 percent of the people in this thread cry themselves to sleep
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Seeing BASED twitterfags shit on anti-Unleashed faggots is really heartwarming to me for some reason.

Good, they deserve all the shit they get.
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>>339064643
You're Shadowfujo right?
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>>339064614
Archie stopped being an official representation of the games as early as 1994. Archie is also 100% non-canon. It is glorified fanfiction with a budget.
Most people here don't even buy the comics, so why does the "officially licensed" label matter?
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>>339064763
https://twitter.com/time_pizzer/status/1403085081527390209/
Based Pizza Time putting verified antisonicfags in their rightful place
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>>339064734
Flicky-type animals with "normal" proportions would be a good look. You could probably get away with saying that the animals inside Eggman's bots only have tiny bodies because they're babbies.
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>>339064763
>praising twitterfags
god damn why are unleashedfags so disgusting?
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>>339064757
I cried last week why i dont know
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>>339064763
>>339065027
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>>339064723
Imagine being so braindead you cant process 2 words before your brain explodes.
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>>339065252
>facesitting
Please tell me this is a crop.
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>>339064682
They forgot Marine
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>>339064903
Because Archiefags treat it like it is. A lot of them treat it as an expanded universe as opposed to liscensed fanfiction.
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>>339065382
imagine being so autistic you find it in yourself to give any meaning to a two-dimensional pancake
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>>339065674
>that filename
e-eight??
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>>339065570
You can apply this to anything in the franchise. Why are you here?
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Sonic is gay
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this general really has gone down hill.
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>>339065802
>You can apply this to anything in the franchise.
now you're getting it
>Why are you here?
to laugh and eat shit
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>>339065464
Because she's way past not invited!
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>>339065979
It's been down the hill since 2016
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Can we talk about game ranking?
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>>339065979
You mean it's gone down Green Hill.
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>>339065570
Imagine not getting the meaning overtly related to the player in no subtle terms of a kid's videogame mascot.
https://youtu.be/MQak222RrEg
Couldn't be me.
Sonic has helped people find their way. Their OWN way. Just as he has his own. Ans they are all better for it.
Kids can grasp this, so why can't you?
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>>339065453
Yes
https://twitter.com/fleetway64/status/1388474136595296261?s=20
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>>339066187
You mean its looking more like sand hill
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>>339066350
>it's hilarious to let 1 shitposter completely dominate the general
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>>339066459
the main one that keeps ban evading and getting deleted every single day
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>>339066216
>Sonic has helped people find their way. Their OWN way.
the FUCK does this mean?
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https://twitter.com/Kitsuoi1/status/1403196148353929222?s=20
No Robotnik in Hawaii apparently
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>>339066367
My dick thanks you, anon.
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>>339066541
Song references.
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>>339066523
This but im Amy and Metal the is weirdly hot italian manlet that threw a coin at me today
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>>339065979
just like sonic since 1998 am I right or am i right
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>>339066740
>paragonkeks literally have to use song lyrics to explain why their based Shonenic drives them to tears
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>>339066541
>he doesn't get it.
Sonic is a guy that lives by his whims, not those of others.
He is a free spirit, that follows whats truly in his heart.
Characters Sonic interacts with are always giving in to or compromising whats truly in their hearts fue to their life circumstances or outside pressures. And it is through Sonic and people influenced by Sonic that they learn to break free of this mental prison and find their own path in life.
Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Shadow, Elise, heck even the Rookie. All of them are characters that restricted themselves because of imposing elements that clouded them from their own inner truth. And thanks to Sonic. The one who holds said one universal truth, they were all given the ability to set themselves free. Not his way, but in their own ways.
That is the existence of Sonic The Paragonhog.
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>>339067219
>text text more text
>quote from 2006 anime
>text text text paranoid fantasy text 2013 inspiring quote text text
don't worry anon i definitely read the whole thing
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>This is our new core 4
How are we feeling Amybros?
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>>339067521
You need mental help
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>>339061965
>Mediocre Action story with many plot holes
What plot holes? Also SA2 is unironically kino by video game story standards and occasionally simply on merit alone.
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>>339067387
>oh noooo! Reading!
>thinks im quoting anime as opposee to the games.
I dont envy your cope and ignorance.
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>>339067668
>thinks im quoting anime as opposee to the games
you're not quoting either, but you might as well be quoting the former
>oh noooo! Reading!
i didn't care to read your schizo fantasia
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post old /sthg/ images
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mods just perma-ban the fucker already
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>>339067841
>you're not quoting either
Based secondary
>i didn't care to read
Then how would u know whether im quoting the games or not?
>schizo
Yes you are apparantly
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>>339068167
Who?
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>>339067790
That fine i dont really enjoy it anyway
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Why did Shadow stop working with GUN?
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>>339068168
>Then how would u know
figure of speech. i read it, i just didn't care while reading it. why would i give a shit about an erafag's opinion kek
>no u
classic
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>>339067924
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>>339068608
c-cute!
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>>339068420
Because GUN stopped existing
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Stop being so hostile
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>>339068680
But it didn't? It's just on a different world.
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>>339068424
>figure of speech
I dont think you know what this means, anon.
>i-i just didn't care!
Copium
>erafag out of nowhere
What does any of this have to do with erafagging?
Reach For The Stars preaches the same stuff. I even brought up the Rookie from Forces.
>n-no u
Weak sauce.
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>when Zavok has surpassed Zik in less than a quarter of the time you've spent living as a perpetual sidekick
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almost a fourth of this threads posts have been deleted
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>>339068761
Thats probably it then. They want excuses for him being used even away from the human world.
A problem that wouldnt exist of they didnt make 2 worlds a thing to begin with.
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>>339068754
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>sonicparagonfags explaining how sonic is the best fictional character in history
https://youtu.be/U6DaKOgH97M
>zavokspammer derailing thread
>whispercel whining
>no one is bringing anything worthwhile to conversation to the thread
It’s shittier than usual around, can we just make sonic game tierlists atleast to calm down?
https://tiermaker.com/create/mainline-sonic-games-218439
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>>339068862
>Copium
whatever you say
>erafag out of nowhere
it wasn't an assumption, there is a good chance you're a sucker for adventure 1-heroes
>n-no u
that's literally what you did to me by calling me a schizo in response, try again
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>>339068913
why does Rouge look like an in-game render? Is she doing a "lip flap" animation?
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>>339068984
You fucking stupid disgusting rat
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>>339069019
>sonic is the best fictional character in history
Nobody said this though.
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>>339069215
>>339067219
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>>339067924
Booru fags have barely touched the damn site. Where did they all go
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>>339068984
You sick bastard
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>>339069059
>it wasn't an assumption,
It by definition is.
>there is a good chance you're a sucker for adventure 1-heroes
My fave game is 3&K ans think SA1 is overrated but nice try.
>that's literally what you did to me by calling me a schizo in response, try again
Missing my point there. Im making fun of the fact you have to resort to going ">n-no u".
Standard response from those with nothing of substance to retort with.
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>>339050427
Reminder that Basedmunk did more for R4S than AWF ever did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMztoLGE6s&t=2s
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>>339069345
Nowhere does it say or claim Sonic is the greatest fictional character in history tho.
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Paragonchads and sadsackfags alike... what would the anti-Sonic actually be like? Scourge was made for Archie Sonic, but what would a Scourge of canon game SegaSonic be like?
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>>339069675
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Sonic is a paragon of bad games.
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>>339069935
This
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>>339069768
Blaze if you mean a polar opposite in attitude
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>>339069547
>Missing my point there. Im making fun of the fact you have to resort to going ">n-no u".
that's quite literally what you did though. think of it as a descriptor
>My fave game is 3&K ans think SA1 is overrated but nice try.
so you're a classicfag, surprised me
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>>339069526
At this point, I really don't know what to call this other than based
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>>339069834
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He sit
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>>339070034
didn't know they put movienic in the comics
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>>339069638
So what
he wasted his time on a lot of doomed to fail project
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>>339070034
He small
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Eggman
A chaotic force that acts on its whims, but leads to negative outcomes for everyone.
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>>339069959
Not exactly? I mean, how do you go about creating the anti-Sonic?
Does he maintain Sonic's principles and personality, but it's just evil? (Sonic always thinks he's in the right, so does Anti-Sonic, but his "right" is obviously more evil to us)
Does he throw away Sonic's principles for a complete 180? He acts precisely and carefully, is evil, a sadsack maybe, etc?
It's just... hard to consider what should it be like.
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>>339070005
>b-blaze please help me, I’m bleeding out *cough*
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>>339070135
Sonic says: you wont be pennyless when i have you work the streets
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BLAZE BAD AMY GOOD ROUGE BEST
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>>339070197
He at least was more passionate and creative than any of the autists currently involved. What exactly did AWF do to make an impact on the movement this year? Starting drama with people? Hosting art contests that nobody entered?
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It's time to wonder what Rouge meant by that in Archie Sonic Universe #88.
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>>339070034
Was Silver designed to be cute on purpose
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>>339070308
She only helps faggot rat and leaves sonic to die
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>>339070527
ah, what DID Rouge meant by that in Archie Sonic Universe #88, anon?
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>>339070527
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>>339070418
>Rouge best
High quality bait, good job anon
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>>339070482
OOC
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>>339070482
I want to be her loser.
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>>339070440
Because believe it or not, Richmunk is actually a fan of Sally. Yes, he likes to coom to her and loves his diapers, but he actually gives a real shit about her. AWF does not actually care about ANY sonic character except Tempest.
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>>339070631
Cocks
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>>339070260
Sparky why are you still here
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>>339069973
>so you're a classicfag, surprised me
No. I also think SA2 is based, but think CD is dookie but has a lot of soul. Colors is okay but doesn't deserve the amount of praise it gets. Think Lost World is trash but the Zeti are overhated. Forces is mediocre but wasn't irredeemable. SA1 while overated, is not a bad game.
06 is trash but rarely for the reasons it gets hate for.
I exist beyond your simple minded categorizations
You could say i choose to aproach the series my way. My own way.
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>>339070690

>>339070631
Unfortunately, Archie Sonic's untimely demise means this page's meaning will forever be a mystery.
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>>339070527
Woah, its Boom Knuckles
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There are people in this thread who never played a Sonic game before what do we do with them
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>>339070948
Praise them for having standards.
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>>339070418
Agreed, blaze only brings her money to the table she would be a bad friend
>anti-social
>condescending
>looks down on others
>can hold grudges easily
Amy she’s aggressive and bubbly but she’s mostly demanding which is understandable because she’s a good friend
Rouge is just a gold digger with a heart and if she was resonate with someone like shadow then she’s a good friend/listener
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>>339070891
>literally my first thought
kek
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What if Sega decided to remake 06 and it actually ended up being good? Would people forget about "haha 06 bad" since the remake finally brings an end to that whole fiasco?
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>>339070895
Cute, would
>>339070948
Why would I play the games? They don't even have good stories
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>>339069768
There is multiple ways you can go about it.
You can flip his principles on his head.
Make him act in absence of them.
Corrupt them. Flip the essence of tjose principles. Keep them but flip his personality, etc etc

That said, i would say the most trait forward is just..well, Eggman. A Chaotic Force that yields negative outcomes and consequences despite pursuing whats i their heart no matter what.
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>>339070870
>You could say i choose to aproach the series my way. My own way.
good for you paragonkek. now just break from the illusion that sonic characters were ever well written enough that "always giving in to or compromising whats truly in their hearts fue to their life circumstances or outside pressures. And it is through Sonic and people influenced by Sonic that they learn to break free of this mental prison and find their own path in life." would be a true statement
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>>339071065
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>>339071026
>gold digger with a heart
>>339071217
Cute Shad. Is he yours?
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>>339071235
Knuckles is cute. Also, based Shadow.
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>>339071235
PENDERS GONNA SUE
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>>339071117
People would insist it was still bad even though it was good just because.
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>>339071459
Penders the Kekhog
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>>339071383
Damn...
there's really no beating those "Sonic was never good" fuckers, is there?
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>>339071413
Why are Shadow’s Hmphs different from the rest of the text? It was like that last issue too.
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>>339071226
How well written or poorly written you believe Sonic characters to be is not really relevant. That is the framework and function of Sonic in the series and its narrative, and has been from the start, and continues to be reflected in even the most recent Sonic game, Sonoc Forces.
Sonic is a symbol of Freedom and self determination. Thats the point of his character.
Its not a meme. It is enlightenment. Jury is out on how good of a symbol you choose to see him as, lol.
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>>339071743
>the Zavokposter is obsessed with Chadposting
>avatarfags as Zavok, a 100+ year old virgin
>avatarfags as Shadow, a 50 year old incel
I hope he realizes the irony.
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>>339071324
He is mine!
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>>339071864
Congrats, must've been a lucky find
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>>339071743
Remind yourself he bases his whole identity around the laughable idea of some fisher's price toy looking character as some masculine role model.
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>>339071820
Why do Paragonkeks continue to hold Sonic to a standard that was never there? Not even Iizuka cares this much.
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>>339071719
Who knows?
Maybe ya just gotta be louder than they are. But i think the scars will never truly go away.
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>>339071919
Is that a TGT reference?
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>>339071957
Very.
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He stand in front of sunset
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>>339072193
Like a dork
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Shadow is cute. I like him. Goodnight /sthg/.
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>>339072084

>>339071798
Probably just to indicate he's making a sound and not literally saying "Hmph"
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>>339071820
>doesnt matter if you think its good or bad, thats what it is
Sonic himself would be proud of this assessment, paragonchad. Nice work.
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>>339072291
Goodnight anon
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>>339072115
No
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>>339072330
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>>339072330
Heh it's that organ from the mobile version.
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>>339072048
>any post calling out Zavokshit is deleted
Well I guess I didn't miss out on much.
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>>339072523
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>>339072383
>sonic himself
the delusion is real
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I want to write but it's just not happening for some reason.
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>>339072851
What are you trying to write?
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>>339072898
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>>339072278
No u
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>>339072330
Was it ever explained in any way in the Archie continuity why only Hedgehogs can access Super forms?
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>>339072958
Muh fanfics
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>>339073179
I assumed that much. Could you be more specific?
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>>339073054
Based Chadgus
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>>339073356

>>339073104
I don't believe so.
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>>339073253
Not really planning to post here, you know how that kinda thing goes
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What did Trolls have to die?
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>>339073518
did i miss something how come knuckles is immune to mind control
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>>339073685
He's too retarded
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>>339072291
You're cute. I like you. Goodnight.
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>>339073685
He ain't gonna let it get to him
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>>339073623
What?
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>>339073685
>>339073739

He's too stubborn.
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>>339073881
Didn't read the comic?
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>>339073894
How did they get one shoe right and one shoe wrong
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Espio and Amy are soul mates, I think. The more I look at it the more it seems fact. Maybe planned from the start even.
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>Archie storytime has a week or so left
>after that, there's no more storytimes

i just wanna read sonic related stuff with other people
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>>339074176
Stop pushing Knuxamy
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Do kids like Orbot and Cubot? Why the hell did Sega not just bring back an existing robot duo from AoSTH or X if they wanted le comedy back? That would've been super fanservicey.
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>>339073603
Coward.

>>339074306
We have the fanfics posted here.
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>>339073962
Did you read your question?
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>>339071798
It's a normal comic thing to change from the normal all caps text to standard case for quieter speech
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>>339074384
yeah but the only ones you guys ever want to talk about are those degenerate ones
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>>339074363

>>339074306
I could always start over. I didn't get to post the first 47 or 48 issues, after all.
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>>339074474
Discuss Imbalance or Chaotix in Space then
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>>339074363
bros knuckles and amy are holding hands...
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>>339074537
That's all for today's installment.
that was a joke i'm fucking done after this
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>>339074537
Yeah you could, but I was just informed theres a storytime going on in /co/ right now to so dont work yourself too hard.

>>339074589
i do a lot just with other people
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>>339074610
He already seethes at Vectorfags and has autistic slapfights with them on /trash/ as well. Considering he and the Shitdow""chad""" are the same people. https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/trash/thread/38826921/#38911705
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>>339074306
There’s the Fleetway one
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>>339063630
Oh I see, thanks
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>>339074589
Or Stone Warriors or A Taste of Modern Youth or Civil War.
There's plenty of fics to talk about. You just choose to ignore them because they aren't "controversial" or "shitpost fuel".

>>339074772
What other people?
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>>339074772
Sthgusers don't talk to other people. Where can i find these other people you talk to about sonic fanfiction?
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Pirates>Ninjas
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>>339075019
Oh sorry just personal sonic interested friends i met along the way
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>>339074791
I should've known
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>Gee Sonic, why does your mom let you have two threads?
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Why is zavok insecure enough to post on /sthg/ and reddit about how awesome he is?
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>>339075049
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>>339075124
So, Discord. Got it.
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I want to watch season 3 of x but i have to slog thru the first two seasons

thoughts?
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CHADKLES
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>>339075808
I really feel this is one of those crackships with the biggest potential of being true to the characters
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>>339075808
she doesn't deserve to be treated right
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>>339074772
Okay, and what do you talk about?
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>>339074697
perfect
thanks anon
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>>339040412
Last one for tonight
>>339077502
You're welcome
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>>339075453
You literally don’t have to touch the first two so long as you know
>who Chris is
>why Shadow is dead
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I've finished watching all the sonic 06 cutscenes for the first time. Its taken me quite a while to digest everything I've witnessed.

I went into it knowing it was bad, but I'm coming out of it... giving sega a gold star for effort. They were ambitious and tried to do something big.

The time travel was just... too much though. There were too many characters. Combine them together and it just makes everything so much harder to follow. Do one or another, but not both.

I don't know who the main character of this story was. It wasn't Sonic, his only job and contribution to the story was existing.

The 10 thousand foot view of the story was Elise's dad tries to exploit some divine power, experiment goes wrong, Mephiles is released, Shadow seals Mephiles, Shadow accidentally unseals Mephiles 10 years later, Mephiles goes 200 years into the future to trick Silver into going back in time to kill Sonic so that Elise will cry which will release some powerful being which he can merge with and then do Evil things because he is Evil because that's just how he is.

There are so many things wrong with that plot and I'm sure they've all been discussed in great detail over the 15 years since the game was released. I think the problem is that that core narrative is buried in a lot of... stuff! So much stuff happening, so many characters crossing paths, traveling through time, doing things... that mixed with a lack of a clear protagonist makes the story a lot like the Phantom Menace's.

This is a lot to ask from.... what's the target audience of Sonic again? Lets compare that to SA1: Eggman made a water creature come out of the master emerald, lost control of it, and Sonic was there to save the day. Super simple to understand. SA2: Eggman wants to use a space station to threaten Earth, the creator wanted to destroy earth because he was pissed his daughter died Sonic is there to save the day. Also easy to understand. 06...... see above.
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>>339078451
Yeah but i wanted to watch the right way
>>339078528
>it was too much for me to handle
Well, this is why story-based ambition went downhill and Colors is what we slop up now. Say what you want about 06, but it's better than literally every 2010s story by default
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Really getting to Newgrounds stuff, so I revisted a bunch of Sonic fangames in Newgrounds. Particularly, I finally 100% Sonic Boom Cannon 2. Did it legitimately too, so it took me a bit over a month to complete it, as the shop only lets you buy one item each day. Loved it from beginning to end. General thoughts on the game below:
>There's a lot of character's available, possibly the most playable sonic characters in a single flash game
>Sonic is the best starter, Rouge has better stats (less weight) but she also has flight which is not an ability you want to have in this game
>Early to mid games, there are a bunch of characters with the best stats that are available without waiting on shop items to unlock them (7 bounce, 3 weight): These are Chip, Tiara, Sonia, Charmy. Each are only a few thousand but Sonia's is the cheapest. Charmy is obviously the smallest.
>Endgame characters aren't an upgrade as they are just cool to look at
>stats do make a difference in this game, even something like 5 to 7 bounce makes a very observable difference
>on that note, it's got good physics and weight, you can really feel the impact of characters hitting the ground or colliding with an object, or speeding up when hitting a pole
>The remixes you can buy are fucking FIRE
>A couple cool fan characters are available, like Ashura and the Wechina (have to unlock them) and the Cream Doll
>The game can be insanely fast
>if you equip the fire shield (+speed) powerup, you can end up going game breakingly fast, making it crash even on strong computers
>That being said, fire shield is the best powerup
>Some of the minigames are also quite neat, there's a mighty pinball one, a super sonic boss rush one, one where you try to collect emeralds and rings from a cannon, one where you go as far as you can with every character you have unlocked, and an egg catcher. I would play every minigame but the egg catcher at least once.
>Playing this shit on widescreen is so fucking kino
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what new characters should be playable in Mania 2?
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>>339079521
Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Mighty, Ray, Amy, Cream, Blaze
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>>339078528
Cont.

I think I like the adventure stories because of how campy they were. They were over the top, but they were fun at the same time. Giant water monster in a city? That's godzilla tier campy. Its super easy to understand, its over the top, its... playful.

A big space station that has a big laser beam that can destroy planets? That space station even has a giant lizard attached to the end of it? That's a super playful story. Having all of our heroes go into space and do stuff is fun and its all easy to understand.

Best of all, while all of this is happening our characters are facing challenges, overcoming them, and developing.

I think a good Sonic story just needs an element of over the top campiness, easy to follow and understand, and contain actual storytelling techniques.

By storytelling techniques, I mean things like having a clear protagonist and antagonist, character development, having some sort of stake, having your protagonist overcome challenges, making sure your protagonist is the most interesting character, make sure all your characters in your story have a purpose, and so on.

Anyways, thanks for listening to my ted talk. I hope you all liked it, because I spent all my time writing this instead of working on my fanfic.
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>>339079521
No more than Mania Plus, level design has to accomadate for the entire cast and their abilities so it'll be fucked if too many are added. Keep Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, drop Mighty and Ray and replace them with two different characters. That obscure cut blue bird Max/Sharps is perfect for one of the new characters because it's extremey clapworthy, Fang is also very clapworthy so he can be the second character.
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Honey the Cat's panties...
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>>339080308
I think the same can be said about SA2 when it comes to Gerald and Maria, perhaps even Tikal and the Echidna tribe, that's not necessarily easy to follow, but I guess Mephiles and Iblis are all over Shadow and Silver's stories. Sonic's side is simple and easy to follow, perhaps too much since it isn't all that interesting

What's your fanfic? Not Invincible?
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>>339082261
SA1's "issue" was mostly due to its non-lineaeity in storytelling. You can play the character's stories in any order you want, but Tikal's flashbacks are not in chronological order. If you play the entirety of Sonic's story first, the first Tikal flashback shows him the Master Emerald shrine already on fire with absolute no explanation, not even from Tikal within the flashback. Not everyone is going to be able to put the pieces together, especially on their first playthrough. It was a creative decision by the writer/director that didn't flow with everyone.
I personally didn't have a problem, but I can see how and why some people may have been confused.
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>>339050281
I thought that said “only good 2D Sonic game” and I grinned
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>>339078764
I know you're probably asleep right now

but give me a good list of Newgrounds Sonic fangames.
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Do the UFOs in the Sonic CD special stages have pre-determined movement patterns, or is it random?
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>>339081872
Imagine the smell!
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>>339084096
It always felt predetermined to me, but I’m not the kind of dork who goes through the code to make sure.
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>>339050085
>Sonic origins coming 2022
No fucking way, that's really not coming out this year? Also how many of you guys are gonna get colors ultimate?
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>>339084516
I will get it on PC, but not until it's off Ebin games store
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>>339084096
It's predetermined.
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>>339084580
I just planed on getting it off fit-girl's site then buy it later if it's actually any good.
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Why are there so many deleted posts on this thread and last thread?
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>the entirety of 4chan went down because the zavokposting was just too much
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>>339086602
That would explain why recaptcha didn't work for a while.
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>>339084516
budget franchise prease understand
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>>339084516
Prease understand
Porting rom to emulator is very very hard
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>>339050853
>Fully 3D explorable stages
>NO BOOST
>Set it directly after SA2 and ignore the games since then
>Take place in a real American city like in SA1/SA2, id probably set it in Phoenix Arizona or Las Vegas Nevada (FUCK Sonic Heroes and FUCK rehashing fantasy levels)
>Set Shadow's stages in Moscow, Russia
>Build upon the SA2 Chao Garden system (which should already be present in SA2 remake)
>Cheesy 90s/00s rock and roll is an absolute MUST
>Japanese writers (Shiro Maekawa)
>Give Sonic a fashionable sukajan jacket in the opening level that gets torn off by the end by a stage hazard (like the GUN truck in SA2)
>License some real life rock music in the style of Crazy Taxi
>Anime humans like in the other games
>Eggman should NOT be the final villain, just a gag villain who sets up the real villain like in SA2
>Dark Narcissus as the actual villain
>Make the story about the origin of the Super Emeralds from the original Sonic 3
>Bring back Silver but totally reboot his character, make him younger/quieter and his background a total mystery
>Sonic's rival through the first half of the game is Silver, chasing him throughout the game for the Super Emeralds
>Shadow doesn't appear until halfway in when the REAL villain appears, Shadow saves both Sonic and Silver from the villain
>Six playable characters again (like SA1/SA2), my roster: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Silver, Blaze, Rouge
>Make Shadow an unlockable character you can swap out for Sonic like in Forces
>Give Shadow all of his Chaos powers from ShtH and 06 like Chaos Spear, Chaos Blast and of course Chaos Control for speedruns
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>>339088624
(cont.)
>Make Tails levels play like SA1 Tails again, minus the races with Sonic
>Give Knuckles a mix of both the treasure hunting stages (Super Emeralds collecting) and action platforming stages where you get to the end, unique bosses/levels for Knux are a must
>Make Silver faster and tone down the telekinesis stuff, give him fast platforming stages like Sonic
>Make Blaze from an alternate dimension again, give her fast action stages like Sonic
>Give Rouge some stealth platforming missions where the goal is to collect a single piece of treasure at the very end
>Include a return to Station Square in the game, a la Shadow Moses MGS4 or Peach's Castle SMO
>License a deal with Soap, or Heelys, to design unique shoes for both Sonic and Silver in the game
>Create another government conspiracy story like SA2 and ShtH with some MGS style twists
>Involve Chaos again towards the end, maybe as an ally this time (Fire Chaos?)
>Involve the Aztec Echidna tribe again
>Introduce character fusion into the series with Shadic (Sonic and Shadow) fighting the final boss, we have Super Saiyan Sonic and the 7 Dragon Ball Emeralds so this really isnt far-fetched
>Unlock Super and Hyper forms if you collect the Chaos/Super Emeralds in the story
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>>339088768
>>Introduce character fusion into the series with Shadic (Sonic and Shadow) fighting the final boss, we have Super Saiyan Sonic and the 7 Dragon Ball Emeralds so this really isnt far-fetched

Cringe

>Cheesy 90s/00s rock and roll is an absolute MUST

SA1 and SA2 wasn't all rock, especially SA1.

Half the stuff you said is cringe and terrible but I especially like the Sukajan jacket idea.
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>>339088943
You're gay and cringe

Here's my SA1 remake wishlist btw
>keep the original physics and gameplay engine, build on top of it as a base basically
>NO BOOST
>make emblems actually do something, unlock metal sonic at 30, remake beta windy valley at 60, shadow at 130 etc
>KEEP THE ANIME HUMANS, no pixar variants (stay faithful)
>expand the levels so they're longer and feel more fulfilling to complete
>have the option for the original voices
>remix the soundtrack to make it more modern, orchestral
>make amy faster, like at least sa2 fast
>make a chaos 1 fight
>redo tails' levels so they're not all races against sonic
>speed up the chaos 6 fight, include more vulnerabilities or at least make it take less hits to beat
>make light speed dash instant on one button
>remap some of the inputs like whistle and pickup so they're not on the same button
>do the same for chaos 2 but also make the water in swamp actually hurt you so you have to use the pads
>drop sa2 references and features such as grinding and foreshadowing of the biolizard and gerald robotnik
>update chao garden so it's more balanced and feature filled like sa2
>control the chao in racing and karate and add more minigames with them using 2d graphics like the VMU games
(cont.)
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>>339089238
>have day and night versions of the levels depending on the time of day in the hub world
>make sky chase play like an ace combat game
>add a fight with the mecha/metal sonics from the eggman base capsule
>super sonic playable in every level after beating the game
>put in all the dreamcast holiday DLC, like christmas, halloween and new years
>redo all of the old wacky cutscene animations, less dragging shots and better storyboarding
>make station square a little bigger, the original version is small and claustrophobic
>make the station square diner and casino ken buildings in the casino area actual buildings you can visit with npc's
>incoporate elements of the sonic x version of SA1's events
>for example create a mission with sam speed and the s-team (from episode 1) racing sonic as a speed highway original boss fight
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>>339050853
>Eggman is at his old schemes again, this time he's taken timestones out from Little Planet and built a device that combined with Chaos Emeralds has caused holes in space-time fabric
>Sonic's story is compressed version of Generations where you travel through iconic stages and boss battles from different games
>Tails' story is having him relive events of Cocoa Island, Sonic 2 and Adventure 1 and 2 (except Sonic isn't there)
>Knuckles story is him looking for Chaos Emeralds.
>Amy's story is Social Interaction RPG ala Persona
>Shadow relives Ark raid, Sonic Adventure 2 Boss Battle against Biolizards and Devil Doom
>Silver's story is about getting Time Stones back to little planet
>Final Story is everyone teaming up against Eggman's mahiine (and Sonic &Knuckles going Hyper, while Shadow, Silvver and Tails go Super and Amy, Cream and bunch of others offer emotional suppport)
>"crassic onr--"
And Izuka and Kishimoto are out, Maekawa is back.
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>>339088624
Since I've seen this reposted so many times, I should point out
Left is Black Narcissus, Right is Dark Oak. Oak is the leader, Narcissus is a minion.
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>>339088943
>>339088624
Going steal that Sukajan idea for something soon...
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>>339088624
>>339088768
>>339089238
>>339089372
>>339089708
Shit like this is why Sega will never bring back Adventure or listen to Adventurefags
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>>339090286
Shit like that is why Sonic is doomed to be for babies and toddlers.
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>>339090286
>"BALDY MCNOSEHAIR TURNS HIMSELF INTO PICKLE, FUNNIEST STUFF I'VE EVER SEEN"
t. pontafffag
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>>339083740
I'm not, I have work to do that I pushed away for far too long for no fucking reason. This is far from a complete list but here's what I do have:
>Sonic RPG (starts weak at first but gets VERY good at later entries, but I would still recommend actually playing through everything)
>Sonic Final Fantasy X (unfinished series, would still play everything though)
>Sonic Flash
>Ultimate Flash Sonic
>Sonic Boom Cannon 1, 2, 3D (2 > 1 > 3D)
If you care for scene creators:
>Sonic Scene Creator 5 (best one outright, Advance sprites)
>Mega Sonic Scene Creator (Advance sprites, also Nazo, Mephiles, and Dark Sonic)
>Amazing Sonic Scene Creator v2.0 (Genesis inspired sprites with a lot more backgrounds and music than the other two, but less tile options than Scene Creator 5)
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>>339072050
You keep talking about standards, whe i havrnt been. Could it be that deep down you recognize the true depth of his character, but admitting it would be too hard?
Just sayin bro.
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>>339090486
Why does that line make Adventurefags seethe so much? Is it because they are also balding and have large amounts of facial hair? Do they think Sonic is directly mocking them?
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>>339090770
Genesis inspired modern sprites*, as well as regular genesis ones
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>>339072383
Absolutely
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>>339090850
Nah, it's just
Maekawa humor >>>>> Pontaff "humor"
Do I need to remind you Pontwhatever and Graff never even played a single Sonic game before starting to write, and they only got in because of nepotism?
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>>339091041
>Maekawa humor
???
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>>339091230
Pontaff is forced, Maekawa-era (the time when aekawaw wrote, not maekawa himself) used more situataional comedy.
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>>339078702
06 is only better by the fact there are actual stakes and consequenses, but the plot itself is just all over the place
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>>339091541
>the time when Maekawa wrote, not maekawa himself
So then it's not Maekawa humor then
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>>339050219
what meetup, i never see anyone talking about any meetups
is this a discord tranny thing
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>>339092094
yeah, maybe more accurate term would Maekawa-era humor.
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>>339092189
It's at burger hours so you'll likely miss it. It's only marginally better than the podcast, they just play games
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>>339090114
Nigga I don't give a fuck
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>>339050853
With SA3 I just want the classic structure in full 3D where you choose which character you want to play the whole game as with their own abilities, 2 Acts each Zone with a boss fight at the end.
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>>339092337
Maekawa barely wrote anything, especially when you consider how much shit Sega pumped out of their anus back then, why would it be named after him? A more accurate term would be Dark Ages "Humor".
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>>339090286
OK ignore everything that I said. But AT LEAST dump the bullshit wacky space planets fantasy settings we've had since fucking Colors in 2010.

Seeing some of the earliest screenshots of Sonic Unleashed around March of 2008, the game truly looked NEXT GEN because of the real world inspirations. Among the many other references that game has, the Greek pantheon inspiration leaves such a strong mark on that game to this day. It actually uncannily looks like a city from my country lmao.
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>>339084516
They somehow made Colors ultimate even more uninteresting to me than base colors.
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>>339092979
For reference
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>>339092368
Nigga you put him in your greentext
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>>339088624
>FUCK Sonic Heroes and FUCK rehashing fantasy levels)
SA1 and 2 had shit like Pumpkin Hill, ARK and Red Mountain though.
Also, cringe. Heroes was based.
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>>339092945
>Dark Ages
>2000s and not the 2010s
kek get a load of this faggot
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>>339092945
>anything from Adventure to Unleashed is Dark Ages.
I'd rather narrow Dark Ages down to Shadow, 2006 and Rise of Lyrics.
>why it would be named after him?
Don't quote me on that, but lots of people want Maekawa back despite (or because of) how little he wrote.
>post Colors is meta era
because of 4th wall breaking, "self-awareness", meta jokes and more "American style" humor?
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>>339093251
Oh wow I didn't realize those levels appeared in games before Adventure 2. Sorry anon.
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>>339093269
Anon, Shadow, 06, and that other game we're supposed to hate are from 2000s/noughties.
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>>339089238
>control the chao in racing and karate
That defeats the point of a v-pet
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>>339089372
>>make station square a little bigger, the original version is small and claustrophobic
Hells no. Station square was the most tolerable hub if only because this made it harder to get lost in
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>>339093475
Look at the top 10 bestselling Sonic games, three of the titles were released in the 1990’s, five were released in the 2000’s, and two were released in 2010’s.

You would have to be really stupid to think 2000s Sonic was anywhere near a "dark age". There were more in quantity, and more varied Sonic games released in that decade than any other, they performed the best and they ranked the best on Metacritic on top of having the best selling titles. Comparatively we're LIVING in the fucking dark age ever since Colors.
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>>339089708
>Amy's story is Social Interaction RPG ala Persona
HEY! I remember dropping that idea here!
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>>339093793
Colors is when 3D Sonic found his footing
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>>339093406
Green Hill and Icecap did.
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>>339094000
Green Hill was in the SA2 campaign?
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>>339093793
Well, it had quanity, yes but it also gave 06. And then meta era gave us Rise of Lyric.
>>339093801
That what inspired it, anon. It's a solid idea, but knowing Sega/Sonic Team, they'd propably fuck it up somehow.
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>>339093801
It's a good idea since he true strength is in social interaction rather than physical ability
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>>339094063
>moving the goalpost
Also, ARKs aethetic is pretty mich Modern Death Egg from Sonic 3.
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>>339093269
Yes they are, that's what Sega believes
>Iizuka: "What I felt was the same as you – that the franchise had become too serious, the story had become very deep, whereas I see Sonic as more of a laid-back, enjoyable and fun experience. I kind of rediscovered that through Mario & Sonic in a way, because that game was very much a 'pick up and play' affair that everyone can jump in and enjoy. I think that's a better direction for the Sonic brand, and that's why Sonic Colours has a much more fun, enjoyable kind of setting"
>Iizuka: “I hear people saying that they want Adventure 3, but the path that we’re on and ... Adventure 3, what fans want that to be, might not be an advancement of the series, so I don’t want to do an Adventure 3 and step the franchise back just to give the fans what they want. We don’t want to take the entire series back to where it was just make people happy. We want to advance the idea of what a Sonic game is.”
That era of serious stories and bad games was a mistake that was corrected with Colors (the game where Sonic finally founs his footing in 3D).
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>>339094159
Yes but describe to me exactly how 2000 to 2009 was a dark era for Sonic the Hedgehog financially or critically.
https://www.metacritic.com/search/game/sonic/results?sort=score
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>>339094164
I stand by it. Would work really well for Amy.
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>>339094196
>>moving the goalpost
Isn't that exactly what you did here?>>339094000
and I ignored it? So tell me where Pumpkin Hill, ARK and Red Mountain appear in games prior to SA1 then.
>Also, ARKs aethetic is pretty mich Modern Death Egg from Sonic 3.
Stipulation
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>>339090286
>Shit like this is why Sega will never bring back Adventure or listen to Adventurefags
They will after my interview with them
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>>339094254
Anon, Colors overcorrected the tone. And while I enjoyed Colors tone as a refresher, too much sweet stuff starts to taste bland. And over reliance on wips didn't help.
>"Sonic can't havve serious tone."
And Mario can fight a dragon from Skyrim because Nintendo CAN write serious stuff. AND Mario CAN have realistic humans because...erm...why citizens of New Donk City arent' in uncanny valley next to Mario, but Final Fantasy humans next to Sonic are? Because
>"It's only wrong when Sonic does it"
happens due to lower budget, lower animation quality and bad writing.
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>>339094254
Sega also believe Sonic 2 is the best game in the series and Iizuka believes we want to see more Green Hill.
>We don’t want to take the entire series back to where it was just make people happy. We want to advance the idea of what a Sonic game is.
>So they tightly hold onto boost gameplay, the Colors wisps and the Sonic 1 and 2 style

Sega's language doesn't add up with their own actions.
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>>339094674
>Sega will have to deal with a bunch of autistic Sonicfags instead of getting actual valuable feedback about their games
those poor bastards
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>>339094408
At this pont I'm starting to think "dark age" and "meta era" are just meaningless buzzwords for those who never even played the games in a first place.
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>>339095038
Fucking based. Now you understand.
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>>339095038
Dark Age and Meta Era are just names used by a specific group of Modern fans to seperate themselves from the other group and games they see as inferior. This is ultimately a pointless endeavour however, as everyone else just sees it as Modern Sonic and that all of it sucks.
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>>339095078
Still doesn't change the fact I prefer 1990's to Adventure over Colors.
And I can already predict what someone will reply:
>"he likes Adventure? Fucking faggot."
That's rich coming from someone liking game where everything is literal rainbows, synthpop and coming inside Sonic.
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>>339094546
How is Green Hill and IceCap moving a goalpost? They are examples of levels in those games that dont align with what you said.
>Stipulation
We are talking about level aethetics though.
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>>339094879
Well I am a SEGAfag as well so they'll definitely get their feedback...right after I propose my Nazo game for the first 55 minutes.
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>>339092618
am not
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>>339095481
Yes you are
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>>339094802
I think they DO want to change what the idea of a Sonic game is, but they also don't think they can. At least not yet.
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>>339095340
>modernfags split themselves into subfactions
As if the civil war withing civil war wasn't intense enough.
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>>339095340
"Modern Sonic" is just a term Classicucks invented along with "Classic Sonic" to seperate themselves from games where Sonic got Green eyes in the same fashion. Its just SEGA adopted the terms ever since Generations.
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>>339095438
My reply to you was regarding those levels in particular and you changed the question entirely. You're not seriously asking me how you didn't move the goalpost, are you? And it is a stipulation. The whole topic is about rehashing levels and ARK never appeared in a previous Sonic game prior to Adventure 2. You're trying to fit it into Death Egg on your own to further your argument.
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>>339092979
Sonic Team went on a business trip two years ago to Europe for inspiration so who knows what we'll see with the next game
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>>339095450
>right after I propose my Nazo game for the first 55 minutes.
Please don't. You'll get yout feedback immediately shitcanned.
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>>339095708
Anything beyond Black Knight is non-canon, that includes Generations. If it's written by these faggots it doesn't count.

There is no Classic or Modern.
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>>339095834
God I really fucking hope Rangers has European inspiration. I would literally jump from excitement.
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SEVEN RINGS IN HAAAAAAAAND
SPEED THROUGH NIGHTS WITH FEET IN SAAAAAAAAAND
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>>339095908
There is no canon.
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>>339095723
>My reply to you was regarding those levels in particular and you changed the question entirely.
How did i change the question?
You said "Fuck Heroes and Fuck Rehashing Fantasy levels" as an add to the insistance on realistic environments. So I listed examples.
Then you trying to make excuses for why those "don't count".

>And it is a stipulation. The whole topic is about rehashing levels and ARK never appeared in a previous Sonic game prior to Adventure 2. You're trying to fit it into Death Egg on your own to further your argument.
No anon... this is you trying to move the goalpost. The conversation was about level aesthetics.
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>>339094802
Honestly I wouldn't even have minded all those Green Hills if they actually improved on it but Mania's the only version that I could say is better than the original.
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>>339096128
You really have no business arguing anything on the internet lmao
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>>339096090
I trust Nishiyama.a The gameplay in Rangers might be dog shit, but at least it will look cool.
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I wonder what would happen if average /sthg/ discussion was put in Objection dot lol?
...nah, it would become nsfw in an instant.
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>>339094764
>And Mario can fight a dragon from Skyrim because Nintendo CAN write serious stuff.
Most people agree the dragon was out of place in Odyssey. The reason nobody cares is because Mario never took its stories seriously (and they honestly don't have to), while Sonic did (at least until Colors).
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>>339096394
Unleashed seriously feels like the last orthodox Sonic game. It felt truly next gen for the final time.

Everything since then has totally dropped the ball
creatively, in production values, in gameplay. It's been totally unoriginal and budget since then. Returning some of those real world inspirations to Rangers would inject some life back into the series
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https://twitter.com/Kitsuoi1/status/1403252616436412418?s=20
Donut Lord is HOT
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>>339096394
Very cool, Pumpkin Hill looks inspired by Tim Burton. That concept art feels like it's directly lifted from a storyboard of one of his films.
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>>339096109
>aliens?
>government conspiracies?
>world takeovers?
>time travel?
>god monsters?
>drama and stakes?
>sad backstories?
>moral quanderies?
>ancient prophecies?
>other dimensions?
The hell is wrong with you?! This is a kids series! You don't have that shit in kid's serie-
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https://twitter.com/SpiritSonic/status/1403211823663390723?s=20
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>>339096340
If you say so, lol.
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>>339097218
>bitch shartman
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>>339097164
I'm sure he's seen a few of those films
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>>339096725
>Most people agree the dragon was out of place in Odyssey. The reason nobody cares is because Mario never took its stories seriously.
No, the reason no one cared is because they aren't autistic and dont jave a vetted interest in trying to leverage it to tear the series down to push a narrative.
They just roll with it.
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>>339097037
So apparently in movie sequel Tom and Maddie take trip to Hawaii?
>Actor is hot
not bad for 44 year old.
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>>339097586
that dragon was based tho
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>>339095837
I'm just shitposting man. Currently I'm just trying to keep up to date on SEGA's current projects and plans, while also making my criticism, which is honestly mostly Sonic related because the rest of SEGA has been doing quite well, short, concise, and relevant, and then listing my desires for future products with Sonic and SEGA in general. Mainly I want more SEGA fighting entries for Fighting Vipers and a new Megamix, new arcade racers, new Jet Set Radio stuff in general, and more lightgun games. And of course PC ports of all of that. I also plan to ask about that Segagaga translation they were talking about in an interview once, really need to know if that went anywhere. Also, does anyone have the recent Sega financial report, I'm gonna need it for reference.
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>>339097726
>new Jet Set Radio stuff in general
Yeah you're wasting your time with this one. Sega isn't bringing back a consistent flopper.
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btw i love you /sthg/
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>aliens
>government conspiracies
>world takeovers
>time travel
>god monsters
>drama and stakes
>sad backstories?
>moral quanderies
>ancient prophecies
>other dimensions
How did all this stuff end up in ANOTHER kids action series, bros?!
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>>339089372
I like your ideas
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>>339098190
He looks like he gets btfo by Hal Jordan
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>>339098442
i like you anon
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>>339098058
Doesn't hurt to try, good thing about SEGA's continuously weird business decisions is that they are open to anything at any given moment. If enough interviewers want a new Jet Set Radio, which could definitely happen, who's to say they won't do it? Speaking of consistent floppers, I also need a definitive edition of Skies of Arcadia.
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How does this keep happening bros?! Again! Mutant experients! Government conspiracies! Aliens! How does it all keep finding its way into muh kids action series?!
Ever noticd everyone spputing the "this shouldnt be in kids media" argument are all in their fucking mid 40s and talking down to people much younger than them?
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>>339098190
All those things are baby stuff that appears in many cartoons and movies for kids but since it's Sonic we need to make a big fuss about everything
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>>339099109
Beause they don't have 4 year olds as business consultants like Pokemon does. (yes, really)
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>>339098190
wait.... sonic prme is being made by the poeple who made this?!?!? bros there might be some hope
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>>339099437
>(yes, really)
This.....explains so much
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>>339099109
No but I did notice you posted shit from the 2000s. Current year's and even 2010s children's media is very different.
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>>339095908
I wish everything past 2010s g8t deleted, it just created more problems than good
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>>339099526
It's being made by the people who also made this
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>>339050150
mental illnessu
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>>339099804
The difference is Capcom couldn't give less of a shit what they did with the show. Meanwhile, SEGA is watching Prime's production like a hawk, so it's bound to be at least mostly accurate to the source material.
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>>339100080
It helps that I think Nishiyama will also be the art director for the show as well, since his role is art director for the whole series .
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>>339099646
Ok, whats your excuse THIS time?
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>>339099526
That was 15+ years ago, everything else they've written is pure shit with the exception of Geneator Rex (which was also over a decade ago).
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>>339100337
Hey now, Ultimate Spider-Man was decent.
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>>339100327
That was too extreme for kids and the British. Michalangelo's Nunchucks was censored and eventually replaced with a grappling hook because it was too hardcore.
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>>339099437
Even fucking Pokemon has all that shit though.
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>aliens
>government conspiracies
>world takeovers
>time travel
>god monsters
>drama and stakes
>sad backstories?
>moral quanderies
>ancient prophecies
>other dimensions
Sonic X had all of these things. Pic unrelated.
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>>339101351
Blaze x Amy is cute! CUTE!!!!
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>aliens
>government conspiracies
>world takeovers
>time travel
>god monsters
>drama and stakes
>sad backstories?
>moral quanderies
>ancient prophecies
>other dimensions
If they can have all these, why not Sonic?
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>>339100643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1VaVd_C9pU
Actually it was better than decent, it was rad.
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>>339101218
Point is, Sega should hire 4 year olds as consultants.
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What if Zonic met the TVA?
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>>339102024
TVA disintegrate him and his entire organisation for preserving alternate timelines
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>>339102024
Oops forgot pic
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I will never respect a fan's game pitch that reboots/retcons anything like the characters or lore because it's just usually complete shit for no reason

I get wanting one world back. I don't support remaking Silver's character.
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>>339102386
Silver has no character to remake.
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>aliens
Wisps
>government conspiracies
Shadow is rumored to come from a Space Colony called ARK
>world takeovers
Eggman taking over the Sonic's World in Forces
>time travel
Silver in Forces
>god monsters
Zavok
>drama and stakes
Sonic was too slow to save his buddy in Lost World
>sad backstories?
Infinite's squad being destroyed and Shadow calling him weak
>moral quanderies
Sonic doing the right thing by letting Eggman go instead of punishing him for all the death and suffering he caused
>ancient prophecies
Zavok says Sonic is destined to fail
>other dimensions
Classic Sonic's dimension

Yeah I'm thinking Sonic is kino
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>>339102386
This. Its lazy.
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https://mega.nz/folder/fB5HjSrA#L5sxkjPqkzUfA5DgN5kz7w

In which Shadow begins his stay at Arkham and reunites with Sonic, the both of them having a common enemy...

>>339100768
I remember reading that the Conservative Party at the time were extremely obsessed with ninjas and Japanese culture because there was a terror attack where some guy used stuff like shurikens in the 90's
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>>339102770
Why is Sonic at a asylum?
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>>339103092
Isn't it obvious?
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>>339102770
>Batman is a hoe ass bitch
Lmao
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>>339096902
>Unleashed seriously feels like the last orthodox Sonic game. It felt truly next gen for the final time.
Agreed completely. Something about Unleashed evokes this feeling of finality to me. Compared to its predecessors Unleashed has a way bigger budget, and there’s a level of care in the presentation that you almost never see in Sonic games. Despite its flaws I get the feeling that the people who made Unleashed really cared about Sonic and respecting what the IP stood for (Werehog notwithstanding). I mean Eggman finally finished Eggmanland, that just screams final entry material to me.

I think the ending resonates with me the most. Sonic looking to the sunrise and moving forward. Its not only the ending to the game but it feels like the end of Sonic. Sure, Colors was okay and Generations was alright, but Iizuka’s era just doesn’t sit right with me. Unleashed was the last entry to really feel like Sonic to me. Colors onward is postmortem. It’s not the Sonic I know.

So in some ways, maybe Unleashed is Sonic’s last game and we didn’t even realize it.
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>>339101814
It's no Spectacular or EMH, but it had it's moments.
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>>339103671
>Iizuka’s era just doesn’t sit right with me.
But, Iizuka was since Sonic Adventure.
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>>339103671
I notice it does have that final feel to it, with the lack of other characters and such.

>>339103092
He's innocent, it was the work of an imposter. And no, this won't be built on.
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Have any of you guys ever considered the idea of just not being so attached to this franchise?
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>>339104048
Have you tried not being straight?
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>>339104048
Duh. Its not that simple obviously.
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>>339102713
This. They never really lost the themes, they just downplayed them and filled the series with shitty writing (especially in English) plus shitty character designs in Lost World. Sonic can still be saved
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>>339104048
Get out neurotypical
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>>339101351
This entire show is always two frames off from being outright porn.
I do no understand how anyone could watch this shit without feeling shame or incredible cringe. The director self-inserting as a 10 year old getting molested by deliberately drawn sex-icon of the series was where I had to draw the line.
I would at least give this show credit if it didn't try to be anything but cheesecake but the fact that almost entire episodes are spent on nothing but two or so characters sitting down talking to each other for 20 minutes really drives home the fact that the studio and director just wanted to make a hentai but couldn't do so without making it TV friendly so they could make a profit off it.
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>>339104048
Why? I enjoy engaging with it.
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Amy's character and her magic (powered by her love for Sonic) should be a bit more prominent. Not an Amyfag but if you keep cementing her as the girl Sonic she was meant to be, fans can resonate with her again, and new fans can actly be drawn to her.
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>>339104458
uh, excuse me normal fag

>>>/twitter/ is that way
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>>339095834
>Sonic Team went on a business trip two years ago to Europe for inspiration so who knows what we'll see with the next game
Sauce?
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>>339104048
fuckin shut the fuck up, you fuckin clown with your fuckin normal common sense and shit
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>>339104524
>Amy's character and her magic
She has neither a character, NOR magic
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>>339104669
It was two years ago, I think they said it during a stream, no on here cares because they were "discussing" Shadow or some shit
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>>339102770
>Harley Quinn, the same bitch who's mindbroken over the meme clown, gives Shadow life advice
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>>339104524
I want an Amy game where her character and abilities can be put on the forefront, and Amy's Shitty Friends™ can be supporting characters. Cream is the obvious best friend, but there's also ones like Big and G-Merl. Could also make some unique interactions with other characters she doesn't speak too much with but could work well with (such as Rouge), or make some new friends along the way. Give her her own villain too (while Eggman can still be involved, that might end up dragging Sonic into the mix, and he's a bit of a spotlight hog due to the series being named after him).

Man, they were doing so well building her up to be this strong, independent character with her own story, and Sonic 06 just had to ruin that not just for her, but for everyone.
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why wont sega acknowledge the adventure games
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>>339105002
Did somebody say Amysquad? I'd love to see that Station Square Amy ARPG idea be a real thing
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>>339104554
The show is shit and the only character that has any kind of agency in the entire show is the 10 year old director self-insert and he's only shown to have agency just to play up the shameless and blatant /ss/ fantasy he's supposed to provide.
Every other character is either a non-character entirely, such as Koboyashi and the water dragon girl, or a character who is just going through the plot motions because the plot demands them to like Tohru and aforementioned /ss/ dragon. There's nothing to even really say about any of the characters beyond their design directly because so little is exposed or revealed about any of them that I'm genuinely surprised people even argue who "best girl" is in this series since they can all swap places indiscriminately and the plot nor dialogue change at all.

I guess I wouldn't be so autistic towards it if it wasn't the fact that the show really is just pornography with clothes drawn on the girls.
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>>339104458
>The director self-inserting as a 10 year old getting molested by deliberately drawn sex-icon of the series
Sounds based to me
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>>339104846
Somebody mentioned this when Rangers got confirmed and given how the trailer is set in a forest, it might be that the new locales for the game are inspired by Europe. This has been pointed out a few times.
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>>339104048
It's the way I see it, I like Sonic, but I'm not too attached to the series. I honestly spent more time playing Desert Strike on the Mega Drive than Sonic.

It was probably when I got back into the franchise in the early 2010's with Sonic Unleashed and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog that I became 'attached', but honestly most of that was from the people I met rather than the series. Sonic is a lot easier to find in general discussion than Age of Empires surprisingly.
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>>339105064
Why do they need to? None of the games from that era are really "acknowledged". You got Tikal in Speed Battle, relax.
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>>339105064
They literally have been, Chaos was in Forces remember?
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>>339105126
Sticks is another potential friend to play with. She just needs to get out of Boom hell. Olympics doesn't count.
Tekno is a never ever. :(
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>>339104458
Okay boomer
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>>339105908
Why would he take dating advice from a girl who can't get a date?
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>>339105908
When's he doing the rest?
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>>339104524
>Amy's character and her magic (powered by her love for Sonic) should be a bit more prominent.
Agreed and based!
At the very least, have her pull her Tarot Deck out more frequently the way Tails has his Miles Electric out yo show he is the tech guy.
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Friendly reminder Amy's room looks like this.

Never stick your dick in crazy.
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>>339106178
And Sonic is a literally sociopath who says he's always in the right and doesn't show more than a small range of positive emotions
They're made for each other
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>>339105972
Amy can most definitely get a date.
StationSquareStacy.png
It's just that she has standards.
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>>339106178
What a narcissist
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>>339106236
Tohru and Kobayashi are LITERALLY Blaze and Amy
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>>339105972
>can't get a date
First of all, Amy can getbdates easily. Its just Sonic thats a problem for her.
Secondaly, Amy has gotten multiple dates with Sonic.
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>>339106302
He doesn't say he is in the right, he actually doesn't know what is right or wrong so he just does what feels right to him
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>>339106307
Dating advice is typically not given out by people who have never been on a date, which Amy falls under because the one guy she wants to date refuses her at every opportunity and will continue to do so until the end of time. She turns down everyone else.
Being asked out on a date by some random and turning them down does not mean you've actually been on a date.
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Lucky
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>>339106302
>who says he's always in the right
Sonic doesn't say he's always right. He says it doesn't matter. All you can do is each individually fight for what you believe in.
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>>339106417
>First of all, Amy can getbdates easily. Its just Sonic thats a problem for her.
See >>339106526
>Secondaly, Amy has gotten multiple dates with Sonic.
Not canon.
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>>339106417
Amy, go to bed
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>>339090845
>Sonic
>Depth
pick one
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>>339106464
>>339106575
Doing and fighting for what HE thinks is right is putting his will and asserting it over everyone else's, and not giving a shit about whether you're the villain or not in a situation, is pretty telling
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>>339105158
Lucoa is a very deep and profound character. “Going through the motions” and never doubting who she is is part of her writing as an archetypal paragon.
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>>339106526
I won't deny what you say. Just pointed out Amy can get a date.
And in literal sense of the image Tails is an idiot for asking Amy about date advice. I'm sure we both know what that particular image is building up, though.
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>>339106845
Sonic's perspective is: if your actions or ambitions alter or hinder others' freedom, then you're in the wrong.
Sonic believes in freedom. That's what his whole lifestyle and philosophy is about, and the one thing he knows is right. That's precisely why he doesn't approve of Eggman or his methods.
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>>339106608
>canon
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>>339106845
Well no shit, he has to be assertive if he wants to fight for what he believes in
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>>339106526
>Dating advice is typically not given out by people who have never been on a date, which Amy falls under.
No she doesn't.
See pic related
>because the one guy she wants to date refuses her at every opportunity and will continue to do so until the end of time.
https://youtu.be/r5-O7jBewUY
https://youtu.be/vSf2F1Edquo
https://youtu.be/G8LkBat6ecc
https://youtu.be/2n4OH9FJsfU
Amy doesn't have problems getting dates in general. Sonic is just a tough nut to crack in general and she has oneitis. Despite this, she has landed multiple dates eith him, so you are wrong even on that front.
>Being asked out on a date by some random and turning them down does not mean you've actually been on a date.
It implies she is familiar enough with the concept. She both asks people and is casually asked out.
Its not foreign to her.
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>>339106608
See>339107249
>n-not canon
Cope
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>Amyfags
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>>339105158
>pornography with clothes drawn on the girls
Sonic should try to become this, it would be an improvement
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>>339107249
Why does the idea of Sonic finally accepting a date with her in Unleashed and giving her a shot make me so happy?
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>>339107539
So Amy doesn't just LOOK like she fucks human men...
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>>339107542
Don't have to be Amyfag to refute badly constructed argument
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I can see why Sonic would simp for her
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>>339106845
Sonic's perspective is this.
At the end of the day, right and wrong are things we can't truly ever knoelw. All we can do is each believe in what we believe in and fight for what we believe in.
Sonic sees his perspective as just that. His. And everyone else is just as valid in fighting for theirs, even if he disagrees with it.
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>>339107716
Amy doesn't take dates with anyone but Sonic seriously. Its "just a date". Just for fun. Wheras for her, dating Sonic is making progress with her true love.
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this level of kino can't be reached again
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>>339108186
I mean it COULD. SEGA literally owns Marza. But it won't.
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>>339107583
Because Amy deserves it after all her hard work.
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Not to sound gay, but I can see why Amy would simp for Sonic.
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Amy can't compete, hoglet.
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>>339104458
>>339105158
Hmmm... Yup, I want to watch this. Thank you anon.
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>>339108186
Correct, we will never reach below the bottom of the barrel with shit like Scrappy the Doo ever again.
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>>339108347
You sound super fucking gay anon
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Paragonchads, we agree Sonic shouldn't have an origin, right?
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Amy deserves sadness.
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>>339108564
Yes unironically. Sonic's origin should never be revealed, its more interesting that way.
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>>339108704
Not necessarily. It might make it MORE interesting if they do it right.
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>>339108517
I can just put myself in her perspective. I-I mean, what young girl wouldn't feel smitten by a guy who saved you, is brave and cocky and has skill and coolness to prove his worth as partner.
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>>339108704
Based. And what do we think about the wind vs lightning thing? Can he have both?
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>>339102770
Nice
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>>339107562
>this page but with Tails or Charmy
still better than IDW
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>>339108347
>coolest guy ever
>so pure, he doesn't even realise it
making him come off as indirectly humble.
>confident and independant, does whatever he wants and feels.
>his mere presence in people's lives makes their lives better.
Of course Stacymy simps dor Chadnic.
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>>339108564
I already have a theory about this. Sonic literally just hatched from an egg that formed naturally on Christmas Island, just like those Silver and Gold chao Eggs you could find in the adventure field in SA1.

Here's parents are nature itself, which coalesced their energy to birth a being of limitless potential. Similar to how the chaos and master emeralds just exists.

Sparky must be working his way into my mind, this sounds absolutely insane, why did I type this.
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>>339108956
Lightning is fucking based, every speedster already has wind. Of course (Movie) Sonic should have both
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>>339108348
Amy isn't a robot, unlike Breezie so she's fine.
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>>339108958
Scratch can fly?
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>>339108813
You are sounding EXTREMELY gay now.
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>>339109069
He doesn’t have limitless potential though. Infinite can beat the shit out of him any day of the week.
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>>339109069
It's a good idea, it fits Sonic and doesn't contradict what we already know about his origin. I like it. It doesn't have to be an egg though
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>>339109069
Wouldnt be terrible but >>339109310 is right, ditch the egg
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>>339109310
>It doesn't have to be an egg though
If we go off the idea that Worldians are just hyper-evolved chao, the egg theory works just fine.
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>>339108564
Absolutely. To give Sonic an origin would damage his character. Sonic came out of nowhere. He wasn't born under special circumstances. He wasn't created to be the apex of reality. He simply is by virtue of being himself. A force of nature. A universal constant. Just like freedom itself. Just like the wind.
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>>339109251
>Infinite can beat the shit out of him any day of the week.
Who?
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>>339108956
Gamenic should only have wind since it represents his character far better than electricity.
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