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Previous thread >>325561010
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Nay
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exterminate the elves
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>>325616004
Not so fast, manlet.
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>>325616004
>manlet rage
I bet IRL manlets have seething diaries too
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>>325616004
What is it about the perfidious knife ear that makes them a scourge in almost every setting they're in?
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You are going to start a new campaign, right anons?
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>>325615879
>Total War: Troy
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>Total War: Three Kingdoms
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The Furious Wild steam page - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1299591/Total_War_THREE_KINGDOMS__The_Furious_Wild/

Stop being a niggerfucker.
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>>325616091
>and then the elves got stomped and ran crying back to their magic island
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>>325616313
seething historykek
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>>325616258
b-but I already have like 3 games of dominions I need to finish
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Cathay will grow larger!
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>>325616329
Only because dark elves decided to invade Ulthuan again.
Sit down and be humble, manlet.
You should be thanking that traitor Malekith for saving you.
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>>325616374
I don't think anything after atilla counts as history even by the low standards of CA's track record
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>>325616539
*embarrasses your continent*
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>>325616313
Stop being a histnigger.
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>>325616539
>the elf shouted impotently
>but the dwarfs could not hear him all the way from ulthuan
>the elves remain too afraid to take their relics back from the dwarfs and reclaim their land from some bretonnians squatting on it
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>>325616687
>undead monkey trying desperately to be relevant by bumping into an Elder Race conversation
Fuck off back to your stinking caves, animal.
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Obscurefags, check in
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>>325616313
>troy
>3k
>history
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>>325616313
Nobody gives a fuck.
Kys
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>>325616949
You can just make /twwhg/ then faggot
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>>325616783
Come get your beards, stunty.
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>>325616539
Pretty sure they ran away after Caledor II got chopped and his crown nicked by Gotrek Starbreaker, who then declared the war over and told the elves to fuck off from the Old World forever.
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>>325617153
Cope.
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>>325617168
perhaps you elf-things arent so bad
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My emperor's poor fool brother knows nothing of what is on the horizon....
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>>325617168
>elf king cries like a bitch on his knees in front of the dwarf king and gets executed
>elves abandon the old world forever too scared of coming back because they know the dwarfs will smack them down again
>phoenix crown remains in karaz-a-karak to this day
>traumatized elfs decide they can't let the new cheap imitation crown go into battle again because they know what will happen
Someone was humbled, and it wasn't the dwarfs.
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>>325617545
I always forget how goofy the wreath model looked
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mmmmh delicious
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>>325617745
Those are rookie numbers.
Step up your game.
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>>325617798
I'm only at turn 65 my guy. I'll get there though.
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>>325617470
Is that poop?
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>>325617640
it looks the worst when you have the guys with the gallic emo hair get the emperor slot
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>>325617854
Good.
We must squeeze every possible coin out of lesser races.
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What is the ideal army comp for Vampire Coast?
I'm thinking mostly just gunnery mob spam with maybe some mournghouls with necrofex colossus and leviathans
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>>325617956
Bloated Corpse spam.
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>>325617956
handguns, mortars, crabs is your bread and butter
catch things on crabs and blast with handguns and mortars
necrofex can do funny stuff being a set of cannons on legs
leviathans are fun brick shithouses you can throw at most things pretty safely
mournghouls have always been sort of meh in my experience
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>>325616329
Not all of us and every time you try to come to Athel Loren you get stomped
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>>325618318
>some flesh puppets mind controlled by trees
Do they really count as elves at that point?
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>>325617956
20 Necrofexes.
But for a more normal stack, you want your artillery, prometheans for frontline, deck gunners\handguns for missile troops and something else to taste.
>>325618206
>mortars
Don't they fall off with lack of AP? I know they're still useful in sieges, but in the open field they won't have the time.
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>>325618417
>Dwarves are too stupid to understand magic
The forest responds to elven magic
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>>325617545
the legions bring their might down upon the barbarian interlopers occupying the provinces of hispania - the imperial cavalry guard ride rampant through the spear chucking skirmishers while the fearsome 2 handed axemen fall before volleys of archer fire
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>>325618483
with crabs as your frontline they have the time
you need the splash damage to be able to win the melee clash because just handguns or deck gunners and the like won't really be enough unless you're going to put all your money on using winds of death to solve all those problems
mortars help you clear enemy shooters and the lack of AP really isn't that significant for a blast weapon with the way armor works
necrofexes can get meaty shots in but their targeting is sort of shitty and less reliable than proper artillery
its also a lot easier to keep mortars and the rest of your firebase in range of a gunnery wight for the buffs
bombers would be another option if they weren't so horribly slow and short ranged that it almost makes them unusable when they'll eat shit at the sight of a single basic archer unit
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>CA makes him seethe
>He makes /reddiTWG seethe more
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>>325618819
>dark elf and high elf end up near the forest
>forget who they are
>wander into the forest to become wood elves
ok oak of ages whatever you say oak of ages
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>>325618993
Who?
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>>325619082
Sounds hot
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>>325619117
tree branches typed this post.
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The ability of vargheists to fight on the walls is outright ridiculous. Their splash attacks just tear everything to shreds: armor or no armor, halberds, spears or greatweapons. Park a necromancer under the wall and you also give them 4hp/sec healing with master of the dead.
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>>325615949
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Reiklandbros, I don't feel so good... it's only turn 25 OHNONONONO
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>>325618993
he literally says the same shit that everybody here does
>small family company
>no soul(shit soundtracks and attention to detail, no banners, musicians)
>shit campaigns with no depth
>unit diversity is a scam since most of them have pretty much the same role, except they have pretty models
>ranged units dominate everything
>called chinks bugmen
>shitting on youtube shills who sold their soul to CA
but /twg/ hates him because he doesn't like fantasy
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>>325619258
fighting on walls is all sorts of fucked when flyers are introduced to the equation
something about how infantry units have to pile in is all shitty and doesn't let them fight very well so even fell bats will tear things to shreds
bats and vargheists is just bullying just about any garrison
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>>325619318
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whoops
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>>325619318
Is that your tattoo, friend?
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Ogres are the chaddest race.
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>>325619318
holy fuck
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>>325618993
stop shilling yourself redditor trash
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>>325619414
I think vargheists are a good illustration why CA didn't want monstrous infantry to be able to fight on the walls. Monstrous infantry has splash attacks and infantry gets packed very tightly on the walls so every splash attack hits the maximal number of targets it can theoretically hit.
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>>325619384
>he doesn't like fantasy

then he is irrelevant
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>>325619384
That's because he's objectively wrong, all-melee counts couldn't have a 50%-ish winrate otherwise.
tl;dr he is a historincel and probably cuck as well
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>>325619082
>Dwarf near a forest
>Gets shot
>Muh Grudge
>Dies
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>>325619457
>[Dwarves groodging in the distance]
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>>325619318
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>>325619457
>Gaydrill the Grey Vanquisher
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>>325619619
its more like the way they did walls was garbage in general and it always has been in some form or another
if they wanted to fix it conceptually they just have to make walls wider with an area you can properly position troops in like open ground as well as the janky pre baked spots for manning the battlements
the problems are with CA being competent enough to fix any of the issues that would come up with implementing these fixes like how making walls bigger and giving them a different standing area so you can fight on them in a less shitty way would fuck with how they implemented walls breaking and the other problems the buildings have with hitboxes
most of the restrictions you see in the game like monstrous infantry not being able to fight on walls or spells not working on walls is more because there was a buggy interaction they couldn't get right rather than actual design decisions
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>>325619731
Ancestorbros...I don't feel so good...
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>>325619619
>monstrous infantry vs tightly packed infantry
infantry reinforcing into six units of great weapon minotaurs has to be one of the most brutal things I've ever seen.
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>>325617948
That would be a nice read if TWW2 had naval battles.......
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>110 turns of fighting skaven shitstacks of slaves and their retarded Autoresolve bias, their cancer sieges, weapon and artillery spam and getting ambushed every turn
I actually invested 3 points in ambush defense chance, fuck me
Also thank god skaven siege maps have that one area on the left where the towers can't shoot and you can hide your troops
can you name a worse faction to fight against?
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>>325620461
closest thing would be high elves and their obnoxious phoenix spam they love these days but nothing really compares to the condensed faggotry skaven bring to the game
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Is there a better feeling than sacking Lothern after
killing the nth dragon/phoenix spam stack?
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>>325620461
Welves are up there, but you fight them very rarely.
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I miss the historical games, when's the next one coming?
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News this week?
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>>325620753
after you pay for graces onlyfans
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>>325620461
Get more cav.
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>>325617617
dont forget that later phoenix kings has all been to afraid to visit dwarfs when there is some diplomatic issue and send others instead
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>>325621016
There hadn't been diplomatic relations whatsoever between helves and the dwarves at any point since the War of the Beard so there were no diplomats sent at all either way. Until Finubar tried to re-establish them of course but both dwarfs and elves proved powerless against the might and brilliance of Mannfred von Carstein - and the effort a failure.
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>>325621016
They'd probably get ambushed on the way by skaven or something even if they tried, then the piles of stolen shit in skavenblight would have a phoenix crown and they'd have to make a third one.
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>>325620576
Welves never attack or move outside of their cuck woods
Even when at war with them for dozens of turns and having territory right next to them, they will almost never go out and attack it
Meanwhile Skaven have obnoxious armies, agent spam since they have the most types of agents, shit out corruption, ambushes, the most annoying sieges, annoying battle abilities like war bomb menace and nukes, plague, doom engineer that destroys every building and delevels your settlements and undercities. It's so tiring fighting them and they get big each campaign ever since their 2nd DLC.
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>>325620047
Some of the GCCM siege maps have 'walls' that transition directly into level ground and I noticed that monstrous units were perfectly capable of walking from the 'ground' onto the 'wall' and fighting like normal.
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>>325618060
>>325618206
>>325618483
Dont listen to these gamelets who should kts
Depth Guards are literally the best melee unit there is and can melt anything you throw at them. Chosen, GS, Black Orcs you name it.

Also Grave Guard is the only way to play VCounts, any other suggestion means they should kys
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>>325620751
Medieval 2 remaster for mobile, CA already filled in the trademark. Yes, this is a thing.
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>>325621191
>Depth Guards are literally the best melee unit there is
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Can skinks/saurus/kroxigors swim?
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>>325621397
I would assume skinks and kroxigors can swim.
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>>325621167
Do they even raid carcasonne anymore?
I remember before that playing as Fay was utter hell because you'll never know if orion decides to raid your shit.
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>>325621397
skinks and kroxigor yes
don't think saurus do
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>>325621275
But they kill chaff very well
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>>325621482
You start at NAP with Orion and can even trade with them as Fay so no elf problems.
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>>325621191
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I have finished 4 Helf campaigns
I have finished 2 Empire campaigns
I have finished 1 VC campaign
I couldn't get pas turn 20 for lizardmen (too boring)
I haven't played any other race.

Who are you judge me?
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>>325621482
Played a Grom campaign on ME, they declared war on me before turn 10 and never made piece and never set foot outside of their forest while I occupied bret lands. I guess CA still has PTSD from the first time they were introduced. The sisters faction does tend to go on a rampage on DE and map paint in a couple of runs I've done though.
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>>325621563
It wasn't like that always, especially if you make a lot of deals with other bretonnians and nearby dwarfs. After 50 turns or so, they will break treaties with you and after a while you'll see talsyn having a full stack outside your capital.
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Lads
I tried out 3K again last night and... It's not awful. Just boring
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>>325621482
Wow, CA really did model Orion after Mel Gibson, right down to his alcoholic rampages
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>>325621646
It think it was a couple of patches back where CA fixed their isolationist trait and by that they actually meant it. Back then you would actually experience really awful wild hunt tier raids and you have no choice but to autoresolve because welfs are the most unfun enemies to fight.
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>>325621830
Is the taint of Chaos upon you?
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>>325621682
yeah, awful
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>>325619414
This is why Harpies are an excellent unit when playing Beastmen.
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>>325621907
He's too based.
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>>325622034
Do you think CA is crazy enough to give us a female beastman LL?
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>>325622072
No.
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>>325621615
No. Lizards really need a better campaign. Maybe more skink units that can actually hold the line a bit better to like, give them a viable low cost front line. Also probably move some of their dino units down the settlement tree to make mid game less frustrating.
-t, ligger player.
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>>325622072
If they make her as hot as drycha I absolutely wood. I see tiddies, I click select.
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>>325622072
Maybe a skaven female LL
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>>325622149
Make the web buildings not take up slots, improve the improvements and make Star Chambers give rank bonuses for all lords but decrease it by one rank.
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>>325622149
Lizardmen are a faction that is supposed to be marching to slap your shit, not holding the line. Asymmetrical design is a thing, that's why there are no Savage Orc Big 'uns (Halberds)
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>>325622249
based
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>>325622383
>there are no Savage Orc Big 'uns (Halberds)
but they have anti large anyway
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I would unironically play skaven if they had a cute rat girl LL.
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>>325622383
That's fair desu. I just wish that there was a skink unit to sorta fill that role similar to VC Skellies. Not something that'll chew through anything but at least give you some breathing room and a start that isn't grouping all your dinos up and throwing them in a big ball of death.
Not that it isn't fun.
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>>325622072
Aren't beastman does supposed to be the "Disney-esque docile and loving mothers" side of the nature coin? Can't really see how that would work as a LL.
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>>325622505
With heavy weapons, but no spears.
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>>325622505
Yeah but no charge defense because they're supposed to run up and clobber the humies and their horses, not hold the line.
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>>325622489
Imagine her chocking on Dreadlord (male) cock.
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>>325622529
They will be canon in the new lore form the Old World and will be added to Total War shortly after.
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>>325622569
CA can just retcon shit.
Just give me a goat lady with a vaguely feminine shaped body and I will fork over money.
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>>325619117
Non mon Roi.
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How do you thank the Father of Darkness for making dwarfs spikier, /twg/? You do worship Hashut every day in preparation for the Dawi Zharr prerelease between May and September, right?
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>>325622637
Do you think the biggest, most aggressive flavour of unga bunga orcs that are even more retarded than the regular ones are even capable of being disciplined enough to form a spear wall and hold instead of charging straight in?
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>>325622758
>Worship the Big Black Bull
Uhhh Blackedawi-Zharr bros, explain yourselves?
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>>325622664
>not dreadlord (female)
Gay.
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>>325622831
Chorfwomen are unironically built for kara boga.
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>NOOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHAFF FACTION NOT US YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE THE FREE SHITSKELLIES NOT THE GRAVECHADS AHHHHHH SAVE US SIGMAR
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>>325621682
I think it's fun, so do 84% of players. 4c*nners are the vocal minority here and we all know your "reaction" to anything relates to china.
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>>325622797
Well that was just to make the general point, regular big 'uns might put on some clothes but they would rather charge the horses too..
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>>325621916
No, it looks great, and has some good stuff about it, but it's just boring.
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>>325622797
There was a RoR in the tt that had heavy armor, halberds and crossbows.
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>>325622831
Hashut is red in colour. The bale taurus is his mortal representation and he is called a renegade bloodthirster in places.
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>>325622896
Do those 84% of players also happen to be chinamen that unironically enjoy playing gacha?
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>>325622936
yeah, awful
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>>325622998
Nice typical goalpost but I don't play chinese gacha.
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>>325622896
You mean that 90% of players that dropped it after a few months?
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>>325623085
so your a chinamen then, opinion discarded
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>>325622894
Grave guard barely beat swordsmen on a real difficulty. What difficulty are you playing on?
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>Lose a unit as Norsca
>Have to globally recruit for five turns
This is NOT epic.
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A MAN CHOOSES
A SLAVE OBEYS
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>>325622898
A big enough warboss could probably smack some discipline into ordinary big 'uns and get them to use polearms properly, but savage big 'uns are definitely a lost cause.
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>>325622894
>MP-nigger
>N/N/OFF-shitter
>ONLY GRAVEGUARRRD
>ONLY DEPTH GUARRRD
>EVERYTHING ELSE = KYS
>MUH MONGOLOID KYS SPAM
Your opinions are shit, you are shit, stop derailing every single thread nigger
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>>325623225
>said the man obeying the chaos gods
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>>325623178
its the same shitter that fucks up every thread by spamming his graveguard-fetish.
Ignore
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>>325623225
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>>325623225
>Chaos
>choice
lmao
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>>325623298
Kek, spotted the inbred free skelly cultist. You know nothing of how the game works, you have no clue how to play the counts, your opinions on anything are worthless dogshit. kys retarded trash and go lose another 1k skeletons against an Empire chaffstack, kek.

Fucking subhuman.
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>>325623137
that's pretty brutal
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>SteamDB Unknown App 1493250 (rosemary)
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>>325623137
I mean 84% players who left positive reviews on Steam so far.
>>325623150
Wortheless minority seething.
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>>325623150
gottem
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>>325623484
>he still thinks his opinion matters
lmao do what your father did and leave
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>>325623569
yeah, all the redditors that aren't playing the game?
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>>325623557
Heaven restores you in life.
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Graveguard get mulched by dryads lmao.
They're shit.
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>>325623569
They had such a positive opinion that they all stopped playing within 5 months.
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>>325622894
>has to play on meme unit size and waste wom on zombie summons when he could have free chaff and do the exact same fucking thing but more efficiently
you are a retard and so is your obsession with this meme you are trying to force
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>>325623557
not WH, Charlie is RAROO
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Reminder that you get graveguard earlier by using skellies because big skelebattles spawn grave guard sites
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>>325623785
>Miss Tanith
>Picture of a rainy forest with a calendar in the corner
???
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>>325623958
true understanders don't waste time with garbage like recruitment buildings unless its for income and hero capacity
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>>325623958
good luck getting 3000 casualties when your enemy's fleeing your fear/terror. Though on higher difficulties it might be worth it I suppose.
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>>325623958
Nooooooo dont bring logic into this, he wont be able to cope, let the sucky rainman think he is the best
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>>325615879
>Year of the Ox
>Oxen are herbivores
>Herbivores are eaten by carnivores
>Reptiles are almost exclusively carnivores
>Lizards are reptiles

>WH2 Build is called Charlie
>Charlie is associated with Viet Cong
>Viet Cong are associated with jungles
>Jungles are associated with Lustria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5VbNUmIk2c&feature=youtu.be
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>>325623964
did... did you just bring a camo=lol-I-cant-see-hurr joke into the thread?
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>>325619384
>>unit diversity is a scam since most of them have pretty much the same role, except they have pretty models
This entire point is biggest strawman argument this nigger had.
>oh my God, units are categorized by classes? it means they are all the same! Just reskined! wake up sheep! Don't pay attention to stats, abilities or what their specialty even is Necrosphinx and Warsphinx are the same thing bro. You are being scammed it's no different from literal spearmanii!
But then again this nigger barely plays w2 so I don't know what I expected.
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>>325624052
Just attack them when they're defending a settlement
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>NOOOO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY THIS EARLY FROM RAPID EXPANSION FROM GIBBETS AND FARMS WHILE FIELDING GRAVE GUARD NOOOO YOU MUST FIELD FREE SHITSKELLIES BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE DO IT IN OUR CULT

Remember, kids: twg trash is always wrong about everything. Anything a twgtard mongoloid shitter says is wrong by definition and should be executed precisely in the opposing manner.

>>325623852
>free chaff
No such thing, retarded shitter. Those 18 turns you wasted on researching worthless """free""" shitskellies? Yeah, I used them to get global +2 corruption, +10 global growth and +15% income from gibbets and farms which I have a shitload due to my armies simply steamrolling everything in the Empire.

>>325623662
You have no clue how to play the counts, retarded subhuman trash.

The twgtard """free""" skelly cult is officially on suicide watch.
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>>325623824
Typical illogic retarded assumption. Having positive opinions never mean people have to endlessly playing the game, this isn't MMO, sorry to break your gender-fluid bubble.
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Indrick Boreale took it as a personal affront that the T'au had chosen a base of operations on the moon. Of course, almost anything could offend Indrick Boreale, and he would have come to attack the T'au sooner or later, just because they were there. The Space Marines struck their moonbase with force, Boreale shouting out terrible supplications. The T'au saw a terrifying defeat, they did not have time to arm themselves. They would instead come to find themselves in a hell beyond imagining, in the torture cells of Borealum.
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>>325624276
post your very hard campaign victory achievement then
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>>325623958
>waste 18 turns on researching shitskellies just so you can field a couple grave guard units when you need at least 4 per army
>simply because you were too lazy to build 2 fucking buildings
Fucking retard.
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Dark Master soon.
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>>325624413
Wil TWWH ever get meme kino such as DoW characters?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO3MttgvHUY
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>>325624276
>ludwig von carstein
Motherfucker, are you using the Koopalings names?
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>>325624281
If people liked it they would be playing it for more than a couple months, why does this trend of people supposedly liking the game but almost immediately abandoning it not appear in warhammer 2?
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During the Kaurava conflict, the Imperial Guard faced the Kauravan Orks alone. Fortunately for the Orks, the Imperial Guard was also fighting Boreale and his Blood Ravens. When Force Commander Boreale ordered his men to attack the Imperial Guard, he knew full well what he was doing. The surviving Guardsmen were treated as squigs. Indrick Boreale considered this conquest a strike against the Emperor. Those that did not turn over to his Blood Ravens immediately did so out of madness by the time Indrick Boreale was a set up high upon a stage. The great victory provided a huge morale boost to the entire Ork army. The Ork tide swept through the Imperium, spilling the blood of men with virtual impunity.
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>>325624281
>people say they like the game
>but they don't play it
So its all reddit?
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>>325623824
So your only shitty argument again is the concurrent online players gradually decreasing measn it's bad?? I'm sorry this is not how reviews work and this is not online game either. Almost every game's concurrent players will decrease after a period of time.
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>>325624462
post your achievements and prove you got them without achievement unlocker
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>>325624462
Here you go, shitter, the only difficulty related achievements that matter. Cope, trash.

>>325624556
I'm not naming my characters manually, if that's what you're implying.
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>>325624563
Because Warhammer 2 is practically a live service game?
There are plenty of great games that lose 90% of its players after the first month.

WH3 will even be more so because it's practically going to be personally supervised by GW themselves since it's the first time that TWWH will be using nuWH lore.
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>>325624276
>has a total of 2 armies with units
>vlad has 4 GG
>generic lord has 4 GG
>OH MY GOD LOOK HOW MANY GG I CAN FIELD KYS SHITTERS
literally retarded


>Yeah, I used them to get global +2 corruption, +10 global growth and +15% income from gibbets and farms which
how are you so shit at the game that you need +2 corruption and 10+ global growth?


While you shit around with your 2 half armies I can field 8 armies were 2 of them would be what you say ELITE and 6 armies of free skellies, expanding faster than you.
But yeah it is wrong of me to assume degenerates like you would be able to think, at all.
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>>325619318
Never forget.
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The Dark Eldar, thinking their moonbase safe from Boreale and his drugged speech, they had squandered any chance of rebuffing the Blood Ravens. These vile xenos posed a sufficient threat to Boreale and his shouting out. Indrick Boreale broadcast a vindictive speech across the planet. Boreale and his speech tortured the Dark Eldar to the point of madness. Then Boreale left the Dark Elder where they could someday strike fear into the hearts of others by muttering of the horrors they had heard.
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>>325624563
Why do you think if people like it must mean they have to keep playing just one single game all the time? We are not all autistic neets like you. This isn't mmo, the concurrent players numbers only reprsent long term attraction and replayabilty of the game. Sorry to break your homosexual bubble again.
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>>325624758
>>325624669
three kingdoms has worse player retention than fucking med2, it has twice the player count of a total war game from fucking 2007.
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>>325624687
>cheated achievements
You have never even started the game once.
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>>325624481
You can get 4 graveguard long before turn 18 by using skellies to fight big battles
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>>325624784
Those armies are sufficient to wipe out any empire full unit stack this early. You can't field anything, because you have never played counts, so your opinions are naturally worthless dogshit. by dismissing the benefits of extra corruption and growth you show that not only have you not played the counts, but you've never even finished a campaign above easy difficulty.

Kys mad shitter.
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>>325624758
>live service game
>5+ months between updates
try again
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>>325624978
Where are the ratfags? Or are you one of those shitposters that call everyone they disagree with a ratfag?
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Faithful subjects of the Emperor understandably took heart to see the Blood Ravens strike at the heart of the Necron infestation of Kaurava. With two implacable evils turning on one another, the thinking went, the forces of right couldn't help but win. Unfortunately, Boreale would emerge from his victory in the Thur'abis plateau more dangerous than ever. The Necrons could not guess that Boreale held strange technologies and artifacts that were as hateful to the powers of the C'tan gods as they were to life itself. His muttering and his speech, they brought down the caverns atop the Necrons. Indrick Boreale left scores of his Blood Ravens to be crushed.
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>>325625049
*anything on normal
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>>325624563
Because Warhammer is a trilogy of 3 games and there's planned updates multiple times a year.
3K had a very good start, but CA managed to fuck it up tremendously after launch with every single decision and the game hasn't been patched for 6 months and counting with bugs that put launch ME to shame. None of the DLC work properly save for the 8P DLC, which is essentially reskinned base campaign with the only unique characters being the faction leaders with copy paste faction effects and campaign effects from the base game.
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>>325625019
I set up my grave guard recruitment before turn 18, subhuman. Without wasting time on worthless research. Without suffering 2k losses worth of shitty skellies, which means I didn't have to waste money on recruiting those shitty skellies in the first place. Turn 18 is when you get free skellies at 100% research rate or turn 15 at 120% research rate. Free skellies become obsolete before you can even realistically finish researching them, lol. Kys.
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>>325624903
>loses 90% of its players in 5 months
>this pattern doesn't appear with any other total war game
>but people totally love this game guys trust me
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>>325625143
Most MMOs only get updates once a year.
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Farseer Caerys took two leaders as fools in the Kaurava conflict, Boreale and Indrick Boreale. Caerys found herself more and more troubled by visions concerning Indrick Boreale. Through ignorance, Boreale and his Space Marines would unleash horrible forces. What the Eldar must do was clear enough, although the Blood Ravens army marched into Tyrea, they squandered any chance. The Blood Ravens invented a new sport which involved putting Eldar into cages and seeing how far they could throw them into Tyrea. Pressed hard by the avalanche of cages, the Eldar fought frantically, and then were crushed under tonnes of cages. When the Blood Ravens found Indrick Boreale pounding Farseer Caerys, the Blood Ravens watched their debased kin with disdain and some fear. The wild pleasue that Indrick Boreale took in defiling Farseer Caerys would unleash horrible forces of Slaanesh.
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>>325625143
>what is seasons
you don't even play live service games, shut the fuck up
updates only happen once every 5-6 months for season resets and shitty season holiday skins.
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>>325624563
because 3K was fucking awful and had nothing fun about it
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>>325616889
it's not fair pygmybros
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Don't engage with the mpfaggots
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>>325625049
>Turn 1 - recruit skellies
>Turn 2 - raise dead and fight huge battle
>Turn 3 - recruit GG
>Turn 4-17 - recruit a couple of lords and skellies
>Turn 18 - economy boom
>Turn 19-200 - recruit lords with free skellies and switch them out for better units when economy allows (every couple of rounds or so)
ta-da
its not that hard retard go neck yourself
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>>325625260
VH/VH is the difficulty of fallible men, whereas normal is the difficulty of gods, for only a deity dares play the game like it was intented to be played without gimping his army and using only archer memestacks to seem manly and hardcore
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>>325625407
it's just one autist
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>>325624929
So what? Retention of players only means how attached the core fanbase to the game or long term replayabilty of the game, does't represnt the game quality nor public receptions. You have no logic whenever talking about anything relates to china just like most 4c*n shitlords here, this is why you shitlords will always be irrelevent vocal minority of such matter.
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You fucking lost, histniggers and chinks
go back to crying at >>>/vst/ with your redditor friends
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>>325625423
good thing counts can't have ranged memestacks
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>>325622894
That armies strong but you know whats stronger? That same army accompanied by Master Necromancer and his 19 Skelebros. Which adds little to no upkeep
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>>325625198
see
>>325622619
>>325622489
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>>325624758
>There are plenty of great games that lose 90% of its players after the first month
If it can't stay afloat for 30 days, it isn't great. It is garbage.
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>>325625441
the only good thing about chink pandering is less fags, niggers and trannies in games
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>>325625503
whatever legend fields in his streams is the equivalent of a ranged memestack, in this case all skellies + wind of death.
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4% is seething and chimpout again lol
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>>325625441
>player retention doesn't represent game quality
fucking lmao, that fucking broken mess rome 2 didn't even get half as bad years after launch as three kingdoms did in a few months
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>>325625342
Not him, but nearly all of them did. Nearly all games in steam in fact do.
Here's for shogun 2
https://steamdb.info/app/34330/graphs/

There's a reason why people make fun of PC players not finishing their games judging by the low amount of achievement completions in steam. Most PC gamers just hoard games, not play them.
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>>325625470
>>>/blacked/
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>>325625424
Point still stands
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>>325625418
>Turn 1 - recruit skellies
I.e. waste a shitload of money. OK, retard.

>economy boom
Lolno, retard. if you use GG, you don't get an "economy boom" from the worthless free skelly research. To get that "economy boom" you described you have to keep using the dogshit free skellies and nothing else. GG economy boom happens from rapid expansion which gives you opportunity to spam gibbets and get some farms, because you're pretty much unstoppable as GG can massacre state troops and dryads with impunity at a rate of 1:100.

You have no clue what you're talking about, retard, and you opinions are worthless dogshit.
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>>325625628
legend is a fag
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>>325625171
Does it annoy anyone else how unarmored greatswords are? A curiass, helmet and gauntlets, pretty much the same as regular state troops. They should be as armored as Reiksguard and KotBS, full gothic plate. Then add the funny hats.
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>>325625763
anyone who plays on the higher difficulties exclusively likes grindiness and no fun
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>>325625798
Greatswords are just state troopers that salvage bits and pieces of armor they can find, which is historically accurate to the actual landsknecht and doppelsoldners they were based on.
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>>325625678
>player retention doesn't represent game quality
No, it doesn't to a singleplayer based game such as TW3K.
Which is why TW3K still has 84% positive reviews even after 2 years later. I'm sorry this makes you butthurt as hell but it's simple fact.
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>>325625821
that's why I keep the battle difficulty at normal and only vary the campaign difficulty
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>>325625736
I was under the impression that people only go free chaff route when playing Kemmler, early game vamp lords and your starting hero should carry you until you get the cav production no?
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>the dev clashes are reputedly played on VH

does that mean that in doing this, the devs are testing some ideas for TWH40k, since their armies are all archers?
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>mpfags gon freak
ModCHADS where we at?
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>>325625845
Not good lore representation tho.
>A regiment of Greatswords are amongst one of the greatest and most expensive asset within any Imperial army. These men are decked-out with extremely expensive Dwarf-forged Full Plate Armour, and are armed with massive two-handed swords called Zweihanders
From the fucking wiki.
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>>325625867
>battle difficulty at normal
That makes almost every battle last 30 seconds a piece, it's not fun. VH/H is the way to go.
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>>325625920
If it isn't obvious the skaven are already the testbed for 40k.
Ratling gunners even have a copied suppression mechanic similar to how suppression works in DoW2.
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>W-Warhammer gets updates every 5 months!
>that's why its popular and people still play it!
Meanwhile
>3K release - May 2019
>8 Princes - August 2019
>Mandate of Heaven - January 2020
>A World Betrayed - May 2020
>Furious Wild - September 2020
Clearly something else is going on here.
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>>325625682
>nearly all of them did
>posts one that didn't
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>>325625953
>wiki
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>>325625991
chinks moved on to gacha after grace banned their smut mods
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>>325625921
>bannerman charging ahead with two axes buried in him
Whatever they are paying they ought multiply it by the number of axe blades in him.
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>>325619731
>muh magical woods
Why not just set up a fire and call it victory lol?
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>>325625981
Also, doomwheels already prove you can have a very mobile unit that can also shoot on the move that isn't an archer.
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>>325625981
I highly, highly doubt we will ever get TW: Warhammer 40K.
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>>325616258
rolling for something I'm not shit at.

Also give me tips on how to play brettonia. Started a Lady campaign and how to go around a mountain to deal with orc incursions and as I am heading back Count Noctolus invades, the wood elves declare war, and skryre delete estalia. By like turn 6. doesn't help that I don't rightfully understand how to use cal
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>>325621147
Subarashii! Sasuga Manfureddo-sama!
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>>325626025
Whatever works. I'm to lazy to check the books.
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>>325626182
Not in 5 years no, but eventually we will.
GW really needs to shill TOW first. It's only a question of 40k is still relevant by that point. Either way, I don't see any dev ending up becoming a competitor to CA anytime soon.
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>>325626140
>southerners were soft they said
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>>325626031
based Grace
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>>325626140
the bannerman's job is to inspire the men
no standard bearer worth his salt would let the banner fall or fall back because of something as silly as flesh wounds
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>>325626274
I feel like to develop a 40k game, it wouldn't really be Total War at that point. I can definitely see them making a 40K game, but it would be TW in name only.
It works with fantasy and historical titles because they used blocky formations, I don't know if that would translate over to TW particularly well. 40k is much more squad based, even when it's scaled to ridiculous sizes.
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>>325625798
Aren't they considered to wear plate armor? I always thought they hid metallic plates under their fancy clothes.
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>>325626413
Look at this fucking chad.
I swear he moves faster the more axes they throw at him.
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>>325626548
>bloody banner
Does he beat the crap out of marauders with that fucking banner?
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>>325626480
the higher end of the scale would probably translate better to something like Ultimate General.
Where you already have DoW2 for the low end and DoW for the middle.
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>>325625991
To be honest the main reason is pretty simple:
Warhammer just has a much crazier scale to it and it's just more fun to play and watch the battles unfold. 3K's building system also feels needlessly complicated compared to Warhammer's, it's not that it's hard to understand, I just had to find myself looking at the wiki more to figure out which building trees were the best in order to develop my cities, which really isn't something you'd want to do.
I actually like 3K a lot, but I find Warhammer is much more enjoyable.
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>>325626274
Several shit games, a disgraceful movie, a slurry of absolutely atrocious books, the insertion super-er marine^2, several shit editions that made armies unplayable and price hikes every so often couldn't kill 40k. It will remain around until MARVEL maims it and then Disney buys it to make princess movies.
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>>325626597
He wouldn't be a real bannerman if he didn't.
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>>325626712
Starting to think that bannermen deserve a lot more respect than I usually give them.
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>>325626626
>3K's building system also feels needlessly complicated compared to Warhammer's
You just match the color of what your minor settlements are to what you build in the capital for income
That's about it, anything else is stuff like "I need PO/garrison" or your faction has something with a stacking bonus you want to spam otherwise its just picking between more income or less income based on colors
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>>325626480
If it happened, it will be extremely more assymetrical than compared to WH.

>space marines have low model counts
>1 squad of space marines has 12 models + 1 captain
>have very high armor and hp per model

>imperial guardsmen and tyranid hormagaunts can have up to 160-220 in a unit
>very low hp per model that stray bullets can inflict noticeable loses

>eldars have low model counts as well as low hp per model, but at the same time they have fleet of foot trait that allows them to instinctly dodge most attacks and are constantly moving about while attacking
>incase you don't know how this looks, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alv-ERXXRKo

>necrons have moderate model counts per unit and are tough as fuck, but really really slow making them bullet sponges both in a good and bad way

>orks are orks
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>>325626830
>match the color
Anon, do you think people here are rocket surgeons or something?
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>>325626826
I mean bannermen in history served far more than a mere Aesthetic or morale purpose, they were the most obvious and best way to coordinate regiments of soldiers when the only alternative was yelling. Hence why it was also among the more dangerous jobs as the enemy knows killing you helps kill the armies cohesion.
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>>325626830
Warhammer is still easier compared to 3K where income constantly fluctuates.
If I build a money building in WH that says it gives me 500 gold per turn, I get 500 gold per turn.
In 3K, it doesn't even happen like that. Sometimes I randomly end up in the red for no reason and I can't be bothered to play accountant on where I'm losing money.
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>>325625049
ok, now realize you can fill out the rest of that army with free skeletons if you went for the tech, because you don't actually need the other ones to maintain your provinces if you aren't shit at the game, and that your entire autistic argument hinges on the fact that you are so bad at the campaign that you cannot pull off the superior strategy even on n/n because you suck dick at the game and all of your shitposting is just massive shitposting projection
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>>325627000
No because this general might be good and not 90% shitposting for once in my lifetime
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>>325626830
Well it's more to do with certain buildings of one color can boost buildings of another color by a certain percentage, so you really have to specialize your cities. That's where the more complex elements come from.
I didn't say it was too complicated to figure out or anything, it's just more complicated than Warhammer's system. I also think the UI in Warhammer was better in that it shows more clearly which units are locked behind which building.
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>>325626626
>3K's building system also feels needlessly complicated compared to Warhammer's
>pissbabby colormatching nonsense
>needlessly complicated
the absolute fucking state of warhammer retards
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>>325626480
I think the ideal "Total War" 40k game would basically be Steel Battalion with smaller battle maps and melee mechanics. There isn't really any other way to have large-scale "simulationist" battles with vaguely modern style armies.
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>>325593826
>>325594793
Thanks guys
>>325594793
>If they all fought to the death, no.
I mean dismounted
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>>325626935
god I hated those things so much FUCK OFF YOU SPACE ELF CLOWN GET OUT OF MY FIRE WARRIORS REEEEE
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>>325626830
Not quite, while I'm sure that matching colors entirely is feasible, there are building synergies to keep in mind. That's only if you're trying to be super optimal though, which really isn't necessary.
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>>325626260
Or just look at the official models; they wear a cuirass and that’s about it
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germ scum can't even finish off a damaged army, the barbarian fears the dromedarii
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>>325627335
>I don't understand what building synergy is: the post
not very optimal m8
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>>325627464
So I'm not sure who to blame there. Knights fine with full plate, but so suppose to be greatswords since they act like elite bodyguards. But nah.
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>>325627464
They used to have full plate armor earlier.
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>>325627553
meant for
>>325627316
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>>325627464
>>325627571
that's the thing with WH, or maybe in GW in general.
You're not supposed to take the fluff seriously because it's just heavy shilling to make the faction sound like the biggest badass alive so that you buy the minis
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mfw the schizo liggers are raiding /v/ thread instead and try to start shiy. were they banned from here or what?
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>>325625953
gotta get that balling landsknecht aesthetic tho
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>>325627553
>>325627664
what fucking point are you trying to make? Anyone who can't handle any post-attila building management in a tw game is a fucking moron, and praising wh's nonexistant campaign management as some sort of model to aspire to just exposes the stupidity of the newfag fanbase who can't do simple addition, subtraction, or planning beyond "build the same 3 buildings in every settlement in the game"
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>>325627659
SOUL
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here's the guide based on a few hours of 3K of how buildings work together generally:
>Green resource: Build green and blue
Blue is water which makes green grow!
>Purple Resource: Build Purple and Red, Blue if you have space
>Blue Resource: Blue and Purple
Maybe put a few Taoist temples for public order and an administrative building for managing corruption.
There, I saved you some time.
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Based on having 2 armies and the units that are in the gravetard's armies you can deduce from their upkeep that he is playing on normal campaign difficulty because the increase in upkeep is only 2%
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>>325627049
Bannermen were pretty much captains, right?
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>>325627817
but why actually manage an empire when I can make man-things go boom?
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>>325627316
Not him but there's a lot of factors that impact your economy that makes it tedious in the long run and that's beyond just color coding

>peasant economy is decided by settlement population and seasons; where profit per turn constantly fluctuates and winter will be worst
>commerce (blue) is based on your trade partners current economic standing and how goods you can trade, if your trade partners are poor, you get jackshit
>industry (purple) is the only static and reliable form of economy however, you need to find mining nodes first so if you start in a mostly agrarian territory dependent on crops, then good luck waging war during winter

This also sounds neat immersion wise until you find out the AI cheats and can afford 2-3 full armies while having only 1 province.
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>>325627571
I think it has to do with the anachronistic nature of the setting, mass produced firearms made armor mostly obsolete in real life, warhammer having both mass produced fire arms but also tons of retards with axes probably means your troops are wildly varied in needs. Technologically primitive cultures (comparatively) such as the Aztec and Maori showed armor wasn’t necessary to have success in melee focused warfare. So perhaps imperial state troops have largely unchanged survival rates against Chaos warriors regardless of armor, so the empire chooses to not spend too much to equip them. Alternatively it’s a setting designed to sell toys to middle age British men and you shouldn’t look at the lore too hard.
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>>325625736
Skellies don't need to die completely and replenish within a turn or two especially if you're a Ghorstchad, they are the optimal way to get Grave Guard. If you're going for Grave Guard with recruitment buildings and think that's faster than with battle sites you're objectively a shitter and a brainlet who can not into math.
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>>325627689
Yeah, but this is also no inconsistency when it comes to chaos other races. I guess you could roll with "greatsword are to heavy for normal human to carry, so there is no difference between state troops and elite troops. Besides more flamboyant style."
>>325627805
Well true to that.
>>325628048
>Alternatively it’s a setting designed to sell toys to middle age British men and you shouldn’t look at the lore too hard
I guess this also works. I just find it weird. Greatswords suppose to be kewl. So would make sense to some people wear full plate with helmet, even if this pure visual.
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>>325628037
I was wondering why my economy seemed to fluctuate so much in 3K, and this explains it. I didn't raise new armies or hire new lords and my income would fluctuate.
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>>325627659
What edition were those from? 6th edition empire just had frilly shirts for everyone but the captain from what I saw.
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>>325628037
>waahhh i actually have to think about what i do
you are just proving my point
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>>325628316
I play total war to see armies fight. I don't enjoy the busy work of managing finances. Eat shit.
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>only have my laptop with me
>can't play Warhammer 2
what LL should I start with tomorrow evening?
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>>325627983
They were typically either the right hand man of the Captain or someone held in high esteem for a great deed by the regiment that they were worthy of holding the standard.
Also this absolute hero lived to the end, survived absolutely every horrific engagement including being the anvil upon which three feral mammoths broke.
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>>325627335
Don't you mean Steel Division? Steel Battalion is some mech game.
If you mean Steel Division/Wargame style gameplay, I think you're right. Who knows, though, I don't even know if we will ever get a proper 40k RTS ever again.
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>>325628198
You also have to consider Aesthetic fidelity, and at a glance recognition factors.
If the greatswords were fully armored they look out of place in the diorama spreads GW uses to shill the army, especially for a non centerpiece unit like state troops.
In total war, you’d need to be able to tell what units are what quickly in battle, since the sizes of models are generally more uniform than the tabletop it’s likely that an armored silhouette would be confused mid battle against chaos/brettonia.
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>>325628316
Well one fair criticism is the game doesn't tell you these things, it'd be nice if actually showed you how much things would change, for example if they showed a percentage modifier per season for your income.
I shouldn't have to go outside of the game to find these things out.
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What's up with the AI where sometimes it has this ridiculous hateboner for you when you don't even remember meeting them or even that they exist, they march halfway across the world to raid you and die immediately
>chilling in the badlands as greenskins
>beating up dwarfs and border princes
>suddenly around turn 90 nakai shows up and wars me
>kill him instantly
then
>chilling in sylvania as vampires
>beating up dwarfs
>suddenly around turn 30 random single settlement tribe of norscans shows up and starts raiding me
>he had to walk through multiple imperial factions to reach my land
same thing happened to me as VC but it was wood elves that time.
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>>325628601
AI prioritizes the player.
It's just an artificial way of making the game more difficult because programming RTS AI is hard.
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Has anyone else noticed that the Empire AI cheats relentlessly when it gets into trouble? I just finished Grom's long campaign and when I took a huge chunk out of them they started doing some absolute bullshit. Killing LL's who then reappear on the AI's turn to attack me, recruiting regiments of renown the turn after they're destroyed, confederating then attacking me with the confederated armies in the same turn.
At one point my night gobbos who have had no leadership problems all game got into a fight with Volkmar and half the army routed before the battle lines even joined. I've not noticed this with any other AI, not even High Elves, it just seems like Empire gets a massive boost when they're getting smashed
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>>325628601
AI specifically hates the player, there's even a mod that turns anti-player bias off and it makes the game much better and the lategame slightly more challenging.
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>>325628601
I feel you there, Alarialle showed up in southern badlands and declared war on me out of no where as Wurzzag
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>cathay has one horned ogres
>basically referring to japanese oni
GW is fucking mixing asian mythology all over again.
Cathay will be a mess presentation wise.
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>>325622489
Cringe
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>>325628469
I don't think I will confuse chaos warriors with reiksguard (foot), but maybe you right. I don't have too much problems telling what units suppose to be, since battle indicators usually tell you enough. On other hand there is small problem with empire state troops. They all look same.
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>>325616258
fuck it
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>>325628381
total war has always been about combining turn based empire management with real time battles, thats the whole point of the game. If you don't want to deal with rubbing two brain cells together to build an empire just go play quickbattles
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>>325628416
Yeah, Steel Division. No idea how I managed to get the two mixed up especially since I've never even played Steel Battalion and own both Steel Divisions. The reason I always say Steel Division over Wargame is that it places a much greater emphasis on infantry actually going out and fighting instead of being relegated almost entirely to 'missile launcher in a building' while vehicles do all of the actual fighting.
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>>325628601
The AI always prioritizes the player, it's the player vs the AI after all. All the factions are controlled by the AI.
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Who's in the wrong here?
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Why release a cinematic trailer and no gameplay? It's not like this is some mystery where we do not know what the game is going to be like, since we know that it is based on TWW and TWW2.
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>>325628672
I just assumed Empire had research to make wound recovery quicker or my mods were fucking it up. But I was having the same lord show up on opposite sides of empire when I was fighting them as tomb kings
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>>325628672
AI cheats for all factions. I had a Grom campaign where I pushed Eataine into the chaos waste and with the one level 2 minor settlement they had in an area where they should be getting massively decreased income, they had enough cash to send 2 stacks and then some of lothric sea guards at me.
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>>325628672
There's a good chance the Empire's LLs have taken turns beating Vlad and getting his one-turn wound recovery trait.
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>>325628601
The AI is designed to do things like that
They'll send armies across continents and the seas to harass you even as their own settlements get razed to the ground in their absence
They'll march through attrition and even trespass on other faction's territories to get around to an annoying angle
And most of all they'll go after any unwalled settlements you have over anything else if at all possible
If you ever install some of those mods that kill off even just a few of these AI vs Player behaviors the game plays much differently and feels less retarded, though this makes things easier
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>>325628742
Read up on some of the shit that gets changed by playtesters, only the most inept of human beings test games so they are dumbed down significantly.
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>>325628827
Both
The dwarf player for complaining on steam forums which is filled by furries and bootlickers
The skaven players for defending shit and unfun mechanics
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>>325628672
>>325628892
I thought that had to do with the Empire fighting Vlad early game which gives it's LL his trait that let's them recover 4 turns early.
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>>325627367
>I mean dismounted
Maybe? Dismounting tends to be of very niche use. Cav is at it's best when it is surrounding and demolishing vulnerable enemies and instigating a mass route after killing their general
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>>325628827
The absolute lorelet having his immersion broken by the most treacherous backstabbers of a race of treacherous backstabbers treacherously backstab him.
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>>325628827
Op for being bad, CA for how the AI can ambush when you clearly see them.
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>>325628827
ca for letting the skaven keep stalk stance despite them absolutely 100% no longer needing it considering how much other bullshit they get
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>>325628827
>Noooooo you can’t just use ambush tactics to take down a superior foe! Muh Dwarfmanii are outnulbered!!!!!!
The utter state of midget players. ..
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>>325628827
I'd say the skaven AI defender since there is nothing fun about fighting them
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>>325628770
That's nice and all, but I just find it unimmersive if say the everchosen is coming to invade the empire with a massive horde of chaos warriors and karl franz can't muster a defense because he's bankrupt.

Imagine how the siege of praag would have turned out
>Kislev: Magnus, help us, Asavar Kul is going to destroy all of the known world!
>Magnus: Lol sorry, can't. I just bought a bitching new steam tank but I can barely afford the maintenance on this thing
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>>325628827
The dwarf for playing dwarfs and complaining about playing dwarfs.
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>>325628827
fuck dwarf players. they might as well be histfags
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>>325628981
This game has to have the most spiteful ai of any game I've ever played, that's the best word I can think of to describe it.
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>>325629150
you are just admitting that you are too stupid to play the game and wishing for it to be dumbed down so you can
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>>325629286
no offense but the "empire management" has largely been a joke for awhile now.
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>>325628827
Everyone, but especially CA
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>>325629150
my man, custom battles are available to you whenever you want, you can even play major lore battles anytime.
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>>325629278
That's probably the best way to describe it
>oh no you're sieging my last settlement and I only have one half dead army left
>time to run off in forced march to raid all your settlements and attack some unwalled minor
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>>325628872
Small bastion of the orient pls understand
>>325628998
That makes sense, shame Vlad is always dead by the time I get through black fire pass.
>>325629150
I think you’re just not playing the right game for you. Seems to me that the older warhammer rts is more your speed, empire management is the only thing that is remotely engaging about total war warhammer since battles tend to devolve into ai is bad and then you win
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>>325629408
This is why I love playing wood elves.
>Oh you're trying to attack my outpost?
>Go on, it doesn't matter to me at all and I'll take it back later.
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>>325628827
is the steam forum filled with such butthurt? maybe i should check it out
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>>325629286
finding an aspect of a game unenjoyable isn't the same as being too stupid to be able to play it
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>>325616390
t. Tzeentch poster
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>>325628728
>Oni Warriors (Great Weapons)
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>>325629408
>declared war on the player first turn i met him
>marching all my armies around the fucking worlds edge mountains just to surprise him and raze his minor settlements
>yeah i'm at war with three factions equally as strong as me but fuck that guy in particular
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>>325629548
Imagine her missing her leap and accidentally falling vaginafirst on your raging erection haha that would be so awkward
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>>325629416
Not him but Empire management is so dumbed down in WH the only thng engaging to me in it are the battles.
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just 2 - 3 hrs more. You ready for newsday, lads? BEARDS IN BELTS! SHOULDER AHXES, WE MEUW!
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>>325629503
for you, it is
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>>325629485
most of them are even more braindead than the majority of people here by an order of magnitude, it's astonishing.
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>>325629654
Lizardmen vs Norsca DLC
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>>325629750
not amazing but not the worst either tbch
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Is /twg/ always this retarded?
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>>325629750
beastmen vs liggermen
>ghorgon
>jabbermagne
>coatl
>troglodon
>blowpipe skink LL
>Taurox the BVLL

sounds great to me
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Do it for her.
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>>325621615
>I couldn't get pas turn 20 for lizardmen (too boring)
>Plays 4 helf campaigns
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>>325629654
>news today
AHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.
t.someone at CA probably.
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>>325629643
But battles just come down to attack artillery with fast guys, attack other guys with magic win.
Like if you were talking about playing mp I’d get it but the ai in this game is utter trash and battles are largely irrelevant since the ai army just shows up next turn regardless.
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>>325629818
its 4chan bro........
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>>325629818
No, it's often much worse.
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>>325629850
Liggermanii are boring to play tho.
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>>325629661
I'm not even the anon you were arguing with, you fool.
It's almost like you have no real argument. Yes, Warhammer has a very simplified building system, is that a problem? Not necessarily, though being able to specialize cities/provinces more would make for more interesting campaigns, but there's a balance between being tedious and being fun.
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>>325629847
I'd protect her smile (and blood throne (for Isabella too))
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>>325629485
Yes.
If you want to see delicious butthurt, you should go check the 3k forums.
It's a goddamn goldmine over there.
Here's an example
https://steamcommunity.com/app/779340/discussions/0/3103512538091960894/
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>>325629850
They have a wide variety of units, not just saursmanni for the first 50 turns until you get T4. Starts on the donut are boring through but Morathi's more aggressive AI certainly helped.
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>>325629953
nigga the dark secret is they're all boring to play

it's a boring game
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>>325628981
I looked into AI mods and apparently the hateboner only exists in VH and legendary, is this true? I usually play on normal and still seem to get hateboner'd
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>>325629818
>>325629895
*click*
[in a High Elf voice]
FOR 4CHAN!
PROUD 4CHANNERS!
CHECK DEEZ DUBS, GEEDUBS!
RETARDED LIKE NO OTHER!
TICK TOCK, WAGIE!
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>>325629995
And here's a bunch of people going off topic for 20 pages and blaming the state of 3K on Trump
https://steamcommunity.com/app/779340/discussions/0/4143842265257931230/?ctp=23
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>>325629995
What a fucking nightmare of a thread, kek
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>>325629750
>Skeggi start position and settlements that aren't fucking Norsca
Would be nice, although I'm not sure how an melee-focused army would be able to survive early AI Lizardmen with saurmanii spam.
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>>325628827
>NOOO THE FILTHY SNEAKY RAKI KEEP USING SNEAKY TACTICS TO AMBUSH ME IT'S TOO LOREFUL HELP ME GODS I'M GOING TO GROOOODGE
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4CHANII!
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>>325629883
well I try to make it more fun by mixing up my armies and not just spamming elite units. My point is if I want empire management I play the other TW games, Warhammer I mainly play for the fantastical units and the variety in the battles.
Although some factions campaign mechanics are amazing in WH I'll give the game that
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>>325629995
>>325630190
zez what fucking losers.
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>>325629980
>simping for Isabella by supporting one of her rivals
Bruh
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>>325630125
I've never heard anyone say that but then I don't look at steam comments or reddit. The AI only gets fatter statistic cheats depending on the difficulty you pick which theoretically can effect their decision making when they have tons of extra recruitment slots so they can build armies faster than any player possibly could but what they choose to do doesn't actually change. Its part of the reason why higher difficulties aren't really a challenge so much as they're more annoying and tedious because you're just countering more obvious bullshit than usual.
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Cold blooded cunnyseour!
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>>325630190
>blaming the state of 3K on Trump
>>325630190
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>>325630248
Skeggi has a Marauder Champion landmark
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>>325630190
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>>325621615
>didn't use rite of primeval glory by turn 20
pathetic
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>>325630190
>spearmanii avatar
Typical
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>>325630359
it's not a LL if it's not riding atop a huge chunk of missile bait, that's what I always say!
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>>325630416
>you will never live rent free in so many people's heads
how could a humble shitposter like myself ever compare
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>>325630190
>This is more disgraceful than the cyberpunk release
REALLY?!
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>>325630518
Alarielle has a better mount in mind
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>>325630190
How in the hell does a post about a lack of recent content devolve into Mutt politics?
Are Americans really that obsessed?
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>>325630493
Haddon is an infamous historyfag autist in forums and often goes into other history/realism/semi-history games forums to bicker about inane shit.

He would go into long rants that arrows could pierce steel armor when people were complaining why arrows did so much damage in bannerlord.
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Elves use artillery, which uses gunpowder. Why don't they use other gunpowder-based weapons, like rifles?
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>>325630760
too uncivilized
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>>325630419
You'd need tier 3, the building and then start recruiting them with 2 turn timer.
Now that I think about it, horsemen with throwing axes and chariots would be best bet, since it's a rare matchup where Norsca isn't outranged.
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>>325630760
>Elves use artillery, which uses gunpowder.
No.
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>>325630760
>bolt throwers
>gunpowder
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Beastmen news soon.
The reddit sheep grow restless.
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>>325630739
literally all it would take to disprove him is this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMT6hjwY8NQ
Since Crossbows have a higher initial velocity (I'm not too sure what the appropriate term is for an arrow, but think muzzle velocity for guns) and bolts have comparable mass to arrows, it's highly unlikely an arrow fired from a bow during that time period would ever penetrate steel armor.
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>>325630760
Why would they need guns?
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>>325630760
>which uses gunpowder
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>>325628827
>no-furs can't even beat AI stacks
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>>325630760
What artillery anon?
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>>325631128
Is that bow made of ice?
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>>325630760
4e and 5e armybooks for helfs said their bow tech is so superior that they have not yet seen need for gunpowder weapons. Of course back then both bolt throwers and cannons did d4 wounds so they had a point ruleswise.
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>>325630760
What part of the boltthrower uses gunpowder anon?
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>>325630684
Something like
“Who cares 3chinks sucks.”
“American pig dog laughing stock of the world”
“Muh muslims in southern china”
“Muh niggers”
“Niggers deserve to be shot”
Here comes second American who says
“White nazia deserve to be shot”
And it just goes from there
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>>325631340
The shooting part? What, are you telling me they're just giant slingshots?
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>>325631327
yeah but bolt throwers don't make a cool boom noise with lots of smoke so its not as cool
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>>325631128
>Tfw no Avelorn GF
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>>325631425
It’s a giant crossbow anon
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>>325630646
kek
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>>325631425
>he doesn’t understand ballistas
>frequents a total war general
Dude
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>>325628827
Dwarfs are fucking shit against Skaven.
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>>325631326
magic fire.
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>>325631459
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Damn I love free skeletons and using mortars to kill infantry instead of targeting the enemy artillery.
Anyone else feel the same?
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>>325631567
From a different (and worse) game but applies here.
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>>325631425
It is a ballista anon, it uses its arms and stays to transfer energy to the projectile and propell it.
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>>325631425
Nigger, it's just magic ballista, what's wrong with you.
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>>325631567
https://science.howstuffworks.com/crossbow.htm
Nigga you are on the internet, there is no reason to be ignorant
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Next you guys are going to tell me this artillery doesn't use a powder mechanism
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>>325628827
skaven are fucking bullshit what else is new? i too love losing units simply because the other factions has more mechanics than me
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>>325631816
No that one actually does; I swear you’re being regarded on purpose
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>>325631816
There's literally powder in those big cubes at the end
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>>325628827
The manlet, duh.
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>>325631816
>siege engine with a fuckoff massive chamber and large barrel mechanism doesn't use gunpowder somehow
not even the retards itt are that dumb
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>He doesn't use gunpowder swords
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gunpowder monster when?
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>>325630248
A couple of new units, especially early game missile units who counter saurumanii
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>>325632257
Necrofex!
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>>325632257
Rotting Promethean Gunnery Mob
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>>325631816
>he doesn't know that rocks are just sintered powder
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Gunpowder fists
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>>325632304
>>325632334

no, I mean a monster made out of gunpowder
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>>325632257
bloated corpses
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>>325632387
Rogue Idol (gunpowder) (blessed by Mork)
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>>325626159
You could try setting a fire but then you'd get shot again and we'd just be back here
>>325619731
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>>325632382
Unironically should be a dwarf unit
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>>325632387
Bloated Corpse
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>>325632463
>>325632397
those are farts, not gunpowder explosions
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Gunpowder guns.
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If Orcs are fungi, why don't I ever see them budding? Do they reproduce some other way?
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>>325632494
Gunpowder is just rocky braps
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>>325632494
>he doesn't know
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>>325632387
>gobbos paints a scary face on 5 tonnes of stolen gunpowder
>calls it monster
>light it on fire
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>>325632521
They reproduce after dying.
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>>325632382
>>325632435
>slayer engineer (gunpowder fists)
Radious, pls
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>>325632495
sorry, that's only for warham 40k
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>>325632521
post-death spore release
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Gonna do it, lads. Gonna give Malekith's crazy world of whack-a-mole another try after beating Angrund and mostly beating Pestilens, which are also hard starts. Though I think the Delves take the cake as regards complexity of gameplay and aggressiveness of playstyle needed to even get the campaign rolling.
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Gunpowder Breathers (witchbane arrows)
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>>325632521
Their blood is full of spores, that's why it's also green.
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>finally get throt and the thots
>start up my boi throt
>excited to start skaven in a new start
>Hell pit seems like loads of fun
>start up game
>I start in Naggarond
wth?
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>>325632964
you can figure it out anon, I believe in you
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>>325632964
This is your brain on warpstone.
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>>325632964
The black hunger claims another one. Sad..
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>>325629014
Yeah I understand that. I was just thinking about baiting out spear infantry with katana cav, leading them away from the main force and then engaging them dismounted. I was wondering if dismounted katana cav can take on yari samurai or at least ashigaru
I would assume that without any spear units to oppose them my Fire Cav would be free to do whatever the fuck it wants with the rest of the enemy infantry
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>>325630760
>Elves use artillery, which uses gunpowder
Zoomers, everyone.
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I started Vortex HE for the first time and not even 50 turns in and I am bored. Why are they so boring?
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>>325633456
donut is boring and too easy
there's nothing to do there after initial clean up
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>>325633456
Because they have nobody to fight except other HE
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>>325633456
>Vortex
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>>325632964
Play him in ME doofus
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>>325632964
You started Vortex campaign fool-fool.
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>>325633456
Because they are literally the vanilla faction of vanilla factions.
The only semi-intreseting HE playthroughs are Mr Edge and possible Mr Grim due to their faction mechanics
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>>325633456
>sit on donut surrounded by friendlies
>drouche bags busy getting mouldered
>coast is fighting lizards
>kangs are busy
>just waiting to confed donut
Gee I wonder why
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>>325633456
>no enemies worth a damn on the donut
>can easily confed and snowball
>play the same exact way throughout the entire campaign, all that changes is your spears become phoenix guard/silverin and your archers become sisters
>donut itself is intensely boring
>natural rivals can't do shit to you
In my ideal wh the helfs would be the notWRE campaign, where the donut is under serious external pressure from turn 1 and you have to balance your econ early by stretching every penny and getting the most out of your basic bitch spearmen/archers, only being able to move on the offensive in the late game to make up for how powerful their roster is
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>>325616179
being cunts
being less honorable than goblins
being insufferable
being pompous tree huggers
being edgy beyond reason
being shown off as perfection and eating their supposed perfection while being barely better than anyone else
being the closest thing to humanity in physical design but just distinct enough to trigger the competitive reaction in any true human that drives our urge to exterminate this competition for resources
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What is Alarielle's donut like?
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>>325633776
>>325633694
this
2 minor factions of DE and 1 faction of GS doesn´t spice up the donught enough. It should be beset on all sides, possible only the inner part of Ulthuan that is held by HE and some of the gates are in control of enemies.
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So if you play Avelorn you're confirmed queer, right? It's by far the most feminine faction.
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>>325633874
Tighter than Morathi's
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Vortex > ME
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What current playable WH2 faction gives you this feeling?

https://youtu.be/RVCGq-wDhvM?t=49
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>>325633997
That would be Lothern.
All the other HElf factions start in actual wars, Tyrion is just going "waah there are some pirates who die instantly to elven arrows"
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>>325633874
chocolate sprinkles
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>Malekith, Wulfric, Luthor and Grimgor are eager to accept peace once things go south
>Tyrion and Franz would never do this
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>>325633997
>not knowingly choosing only females in any game so you can rest your eyes on the goodies
what are you some kind of gay?
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>>325633997
I only play factions i coom to, ie skaven and elves.
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>>325633456
Play Eltharion or Aleaf, they don't need to stay on the doughnut besides the former securing his province and fight varied enemies. Teclis was also OK, but his faction was buffed to high heaven and you'll have to deal with dozens of chaos stacks spawning on top of you every other turn.
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>>325633997
>playing only sweaty dudes so you can see sweaty dudes and hear sweaty dudes all the time
Anon, you might be gay
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>>325634173
>fags bend over
>chads fight until the end
sounds about right
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>>325634231
Chaos only spawns in above Empire and Naggarond now, no more ocean spawns.
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>>325634082
None, since there isn't an Araby to crusade.
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>>325634173
>"look mr Franz, we are at war but would you cons..."
>"NO"
>"we have been fighting for too long already we have common enemies we should focu..."
>"NO"
>"maybe some gold then aswell so you can rebuild the Empire?"
>"NO"
>"Franz you fuck, you´re down to your last settlement, I am literally besieging you as we speak and have thousand more troops th..."
>"NO
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>>325634082
>Taking back lost territory
>Avenging grudges
>No prisoners
Dwarfs
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>>325634057
Minicampaigns > ME > TWW1 > Vortex
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>>325634495
telling you to go fuck yourself regardless of the circumstances to the death is the chad move and you know it.
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>>325634403
You mean to tell me I have had 3 of my armies in my Settra campaign guarding the shores for an invasion while they could have helped me against Grimgor 55+ settlements?
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How do people even have fun in ME? There's nothing to do. Not to mention, macroing ten different armies at the same time is boring as shit.
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>>325634585
wasn't the first crusade something like a grudge avenging expedition to begin with?
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>>325634926
Yes
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>>325635059
>There's nothing to do
Are you playing Lothern again Victor?
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News today?
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>>325628416
I would like a game in the vein of DoW2, but instead of growing an army you start the game with all your units more like the tabletop game. You get 2000 points to build your army and just deploy it against your oponent. Campaign wise it should be like This allows quicker matches and you can focus more on the actual combat or objectives to capture.
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>>325634908
I have to agree, I feel embarrassed for the AI whenever they're backed down to a single settlement and they give some pathetic peace request.
Going out fighting is at least respectable.
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>>325635227
Saw some half-assed trailer off Belacuck on fb yesterday
>"I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE"
but was most likely a fake
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>>325635227
>News
>Before March 9th
Anon, it's a teeny grot farm.
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When are the news?
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>Thanquol confirmed Preorder faction
>Thanquol voiced by Gilbert Gottfried
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>>325635306
> and they give some pathetic peace request
never Franz or Thorgrim
Even Tyrion and Louen knows when a peacedeal is due. Franz rather just suicide the whole Empire in a unnecessary war just because he is to autistic to make peace.
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>>325635738
The preorder bonus is a race pack, not a lord pack, dummy.
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>>325635738
>Boneripper can talk and is voiced by Steve Buscemi
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>>325635738
>Thanqoul LL
>HP - 219
>MA - 4
>MD - 8
>WS - 12
>L - 13
>S - 8
>C - 5
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>>325635345
That’s for Belakors new AoS model you retard
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>>325635507
Its like toasting bread
The moment you stop wondering and looking at the bread is the moment you get news
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>>325635857
>When opening Diplomacy with other Skaven
>QUEEK MURDER-KILLED A GIRL IN 2519
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>>325635858
>overcasting spells has a chance of summoning a bloodthirster hostile to everyone
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>>325635907
>AoS
>excpecting others to know
anon pls understand that you are the only one playing AoS
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Any indications for WH3 starting factions and Dlc DAY-Faction?
Cathay, Kislev and Chaos are confirmed, any other information on the DLC faction? Chorfs? Ogres?
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>>325635956
What if it is whole grain, or pumpkin bread?
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>>325636065
That’s fine but it’s very clearly a physical model in the video not a digital one.
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>>325636080
the preorder bonus is a race pack, not a campaign pack, so it'll have to be a faction that will only have 2 lords
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>>325616726
The only reason people dislike history TW games is because the last titles have been so abysmal and bug riddled. Rome 1 and Medieval 2 still are greatest TW games of all time.
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News today?
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>>325636202
Suppose you are right. 2 LL with maybe 2 Generic Lords
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>>325631952
>>325632017
>>325632065
I dun geddit
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>>325636418
Yes, but they will be news about the upcoming, groundbreaking, thought provoking, hero based, microtransaction heavy, first person shooter.
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>>325636503
Maybe that is for the best. anon.
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>>325636202
>>325636080
The pre-order bonus race-pack is Chorfs
>lack of named, atleast somewhat famous, characters
>need to fill the Darklands instead of placebo dwarf-factions
>chorfs in comparison with Ogres are not a wide-spread race dedicated to DL
>you cant squeze 4 or more LL of the same race into an area the size of ME-Not!Africa
>Ogres are more anticipated and will have splendid oppertunity to have lots of LL
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Will Chaos dwarfs have gunpowder giants?
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>>325626251
>Subarashii
The only kyūketsuki that could be described as subarashī is none other than Markos-dono, rightful daimyō of Sylvania.
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>>325637029
no they will have gunpowder lava giants
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>>325636734
Warhammer FPS when?
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Ok but what about Total War: Battle Royale
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For me, it's Total War: Rance
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>>325637268
Just play a non-order faction on Legendary
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>>325637232
Vermintide?
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>>325637029
I can see CA giving them bone giant/necrofex reskin.
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>>325637342
How would that even work there were only like 30 characters period in that movie
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>>325637232
We already have two vermintide games you retard.
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>>325637029
the most interesting chorf missile units are the blunderbuss (short-range heavy handgun that got exponentially higher to-hit bonuses the more blunderbuss units were in formation), the earthshaker cannon (big WWI-style shells with a suppression effect), and the choo-choo train hauling a mortar mounted on a wagon.
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>>325637232
I would prefer top down RPG, but Chaosbane is best we'll get.
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>>325637684
Honestly I’d just want a lord of the rings conquest style game
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>>325637232
>>325637268
>>325637342
>>325637481
>>325637597
>>325637684
We all know that what we really want is Elder Scrolls: Warhammer
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What I want is a skaven dating sim or VN.
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>>325637881
That's an open world RPG, anon.
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so are we gonna get shit like verminlords and wandering daemon armies of malal in the third game?
Maybe some actually super fucked up chaos spawn?
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>vampire race
>but no lycanthrope race
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>>325637926
>he doesn't know
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>>325630684
>Minneapolis burning never happened
>Portland burning never happened
>Seattle burning never happened

I hate these "people" so much.
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>>325638186
Skinwolves.
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>>325638186
Just mod skinwolves into vampire counts.
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>>325638186
>play norsca
>make skin wolf stacks
bada bing
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>>325638332
It was all fake news or something.
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>no werewolf race
>no dog race
>no cat race
>no robot race
>no fairy race
>no fire people race
>no water people race
>no ice people race
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>>325624150
Year of the Oxyotl____
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>>325638376
That's hot.
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>>325638525
play beastmen and go shit in the woods by yourself instead of bothering everyone furry
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>>325637342
okay standstill calm down
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>>325638631
You missed a comma there, buddy.
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>>325637926
You're mentally ill and degenerated.
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>>325637049
>Markos
Get mogged on, dweeb.
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>>325638979
based and ratpilled
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>>325637651
>(short-range heavy handgun that got exponentially higher to-hit bonuses the more blunderbuss units were in formation)
Enjoy your vampirates unit reskin with minimal changes so it is still not going to see use. You have to be warpfire thrower/irondrake style to be short range and useful in this shit.
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>>325638979
I want to pet rats, is that okay?
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New skaven unit idea: Dart Throwers
Very short range, very vulnerable, but very fast, and their darts add small debuffs and do small DoT to enemies
CA hire me
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>>325638069
Yes I know
>Somewhere in Middenland
>small snowy imperial village
>the camera circles the vicinity
>zooms in on a small boat on a river
>you wake up bound and blindfolded on the boat
>its a prison-transport
>you overhear some of the other prisoners talking
>one of them are a thief
>suddenly the boat seems to have gone aground
>bestial screams can be heard
>fighting breaks out
>you somehow get free and pick up a weapon
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>>325639257
So uhh... like any of the Slingers skaven have?
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>green shits ask for NAP
>say no
>they immediately start raiding
This is why Vlad exterminates you.
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>>325639319
No idea. I've never played as the Skaven. I hate rats.
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>Bretonnian knights
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>>325639426
Play skaven, they are fun.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JHW4d4-gcU
Factions for this feel?
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>>325639712
The UK in Empire
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LL in most dire need of a complete rework?
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>>325639279
Maybe you could try Return of Recknocking? It is the closest you will get.
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>>325638525
>werekin
>kys furfag
>kys furfag (tigermen never ever)
>lizardmen more or less
>welves
>chaos dwarves will be all fire and brimstone
>sea elves are for fags
>we literally just saw kislev
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>>325639807
Are the mods still a bunch of nancies that ban people for posting MGS memes?
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>>325639560
just clap some rocks together while they run and pretend they're on horses
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>>325639778
ur favorit
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>>325639778
beast and norsca
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>>325639982
What's wrong with Norsca?
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>>325639904
Yes, and no they will not add [insert race that wasn't in the base game here] nor [your favourite obscure thing from 4th/5th/6th ed] either.
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>>325640078
throgg is misrepresented.
but I had a brainfart and thought you asked for which race needs a rework
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>>325640219
Apart from Throgg speaking like a brainlet, what is wrong with his faction?
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>tfw no stuff today
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>>325640365
I blame the ratfags.
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>>325640446
t. ratfag
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>>325640482
t. double ratfag
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>>325640271
Not him, but Norsca as a whole feels kinda half-assed for me. Can't really put my finger on it.
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>>325640446
>>325640482
>>325640561
t. ratrannies
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>>325640585
They artificially split chaos warrior in two factions.
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>>325640585
>Norsca as a whole feels kinda half-assed for me

They were probably the most elaborate faction mechanically when they released.
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>>325640641
t. ratfag
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>Green retards supposedly love fighting above all
>Rout and run for the hills as soon as the fight starts going wrong
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What is the likelihood of Chaos having a grand campaign of uniting the 4 god's factions, as well as gathering the Norscans and Beastmen to launch a giant invasion?
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>>325641046
A savage laughs when he hurts you, and howls when you hurt him.
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>>325639404
>e/e
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>>325641046
>regular humans and elves have more balls than greenskins that supposedly don't fear death and live to fight
Really makes you think.
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>>325621907
>Athel Lorenian demigod and hunter Orion has issued a second apology to Men, following a confrontation with a Bretonnian Grail Knight during which a drunken Orion allegedly said "Men are responsible for the rise of Chaos"
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>>325641046
They like fighting, but if they die they can't fight anymore so they bail to fight another day.
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>>325640737
and they were barerly touched afterwards.
They ignore climates, new public order mechanic doesn't work on them, they can't occupy some DLC ports
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>>325641107
Low to nonexistent.
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>>325641107
Guaranteed (for a mod)
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>>325641046
Because if you're dead you won't be able to fight any more. Use ya zoggin brain ya git.
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>>325641271
They were born yesterday as opposed to 2,000 years ago. They can never be tha boss if they ded.
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>>325641853
Sounds like cope
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>>325641046
They have a much more complex psychology in the TT
Small family company strikes again.
At least gobbies get expendable.
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Ratposters are the best posters.
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>/twg/ tells me dreadspears are shit
>LOTW still recruits them in his Legendary campaign
Why is this allowed?
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>>325643114
>dreadspears
>shit
lol no, the elf spearmanii are great line holders and you could use them until late game once you have access to shades w/ greatswords and blackguard.
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>>325643114
They are shit that doesn't mean you should never use them. They're good for stopping cavalry and holding down big targets but when you're past turn 30 you shouldn't need them anymore because you can get shades and shit instead
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>>325643282
>>325643375
Don't Shades/Blackguard get melted by ranged, though? Since they don't have shields.
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>>325643114
If it is not a darkshard or a shade it is shit.
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throt's campaign was super easy, but now legendary chaos invasion is fucking me up
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>>325643452
Shades have stalk so it doesn't matter.
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>>325643452
not if you out melt the enemies range plus stalk, blackguard are great line holders even w/o shields
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>>325642376
OI YOU GITS ARE MUKKING ABOUT
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are outriders with grenade lanuchers the most powerfull range skirmish unit?
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>>325634082
Tomb Kangs
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What's wrong with animal people in fantasy settings?
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>>325644685
>what's wrong with animal people
i dunno, they're pretty fantastical
just 'ate furries, that's all
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>>325644685
>> /tg/
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>>325644685
perfectly reasonable, ancient concept tainted by guilt by association with furries.
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>The dwarfs wants peace
Truly they are a disgrace to their own kind.
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>>325644685
Nothing, their fans are the thing people have a problem with.
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>>325644685
>animal people
>people
They're a scourge and only exist to be Druchii slaves
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SKAVEN BUFF NOW! I AM TIRED OF WAITING AND PLAYING THE MOST USELESS FACTION IN THE GAME! I BOUGHT ALL THE FUCKING DLC CA AND THEY STILL SUCK. STUPID COCKSUCKING NIGGERS AT CA KEEP ON NERFING SKAVEN HOW CAN WE EVEN COMPARE TO BEASTMEN OR CHAOS FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>325644928
dwarfs need periodic breaks to write down all the new grudges you've made.
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>>325630678
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>>325616258
Rollan
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has anyone ever seen this?
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>>325644685
Aren't kaijit just mutant elves?

Anyway TES really clicked for me when I found out that it was based on some guy at Bethesdas homebrew dnd world. Explains shit that makes no sense whatsoever like the Bosmer Green Pact.
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Oh my it''s another episode of disgusting beastility degenreates chimp out again, and yet peole said it's not the fault of ratoids.....lol

Ratoids and anti-cathay trolls are twop major vermines that destroy /twg/.
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>>325644985
sex slaves?
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>>325645235
Die in fire chink, hope india nukes you.
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>>325645192
you have to play the troll toll to get to the boy's soul
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>>325644573
no
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>>325645063
>WHEN I PLAY ON ULTRA UNIT SIZE AS SKAVEN EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD BE FORCED TO PLAY ON SMALL UNIT SIZE
scything through like a million clanrats and skavenslaves with elite infantry is pretty fun tho
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>>325645192
Yes, for a pretty long time, all the way back to warhammer 1 I think, not very often though.
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Why do necromancers crumble? Aren't they humans that do necromancy, not immortal vampires or skellingtons
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>>325645575
rogue empires weren't in 1?
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>>325645861
Because fuck you.
Why do vampires only have access to two lores when they're supposed to be capable of every human lore except life.
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>>325646030
> tfw no mod to give all the factions their missing lores
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>>325645861
decrepit bodies held together purely by their necromantic power or some shit
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>>325642376
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>>325646030
no they werent
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>>325645192
Be glad it is not Vashnaar the real Everchosen
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>>325646238
It cost extra, but vampires were capable of taking fire/heavens/etc.
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>>325645960
my brain is melting I guess
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>>325646030
I feel you. Skinks should also have access to all lores except life, yet we are cursed to have only two
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Is there a mod to remove those rogue armies that literally spawn right next to your settlements? They're so annoying to deal with, and they stand there until their rep towards you gets so low enough they just declare war on you.
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>>325646598
just murder them for some free money bro
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>>325645192
> tfw saw a dwarf rogue empire take over part of the donut for like 30 turns
> they had the sword of khaine for a while
ultimately tyrion's autism overtook them but it was neat so see for a while
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>>325646598
git gud, retard. Rogue armies are easy money and exp farms
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>>325646749
>Vashnaar the Emperor of Rape knocks on your capital at turn 10
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>>325646691
The best was during the vamp coast nerf patch and minor powers were rising up across the world. Blue Vipers taking Lustria, Ostland conquering the empire. Was treating sailing to the other side of the world never knowing what was going to be there
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>>325646691
>some literal who clanless dwarf just randomly shows up on your magic elf island one day
>goes on a rampage and captures a city and the fucking sword of khaine
Just the thought of it sends me into a laughing fit
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>>325646404
youre talking about about special upgrade, and this is small family company, nobody got their special upgrades
>>325646570
because they only had access to beasts and heavens, else you be seeing slanns with each signature spell
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>>325645861
Because nigga they old.
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>>325646868
>"Why hello there strange elf, what can I do for you this fine day?"
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>>325646868
Why is Vashnaar an elf anyway? Isn't he supposed to be some chaos dude?
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>>325647619
elves can fall to chaos, anon.
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>>325647660
The story about him said that he was a chaos lord with an army aided by dark elf mercenaries. Much more likely he was a chaos lord, CA are just dumb. Especially since he's the male dreadlord which is ranged variant, what kind of non-magic chaos lord would use pussy ranged weapons.
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>>325645192
oh, they actually have 6 settlements. interesting
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>>325647193
>>325646691
>>325646946
i believe it was these fellows, since they're one of the only dwarf rogue empires.

https://totalwarwarhammer.gamepedia.com/Doomseekers

the name's fitting.
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>>325647496
Would be funny if some event had all the rogue armies just appear in a blob and sweep across a region or something.
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>>325648097
It's quite common for rogue armies to take settlements, their range in garrison strength can be quite funny.
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>>325647891
the only exposure i've had to the story was from an anon here who said his identity wasn't clear and that he worked with dark elf mercs a lot, so that it could've been possible. just assumed that was true.

>>325648097
i've had one of the wood elf armies take over half of norsca before.
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>>325647891
>Noooooo you can't use ranged tactics against the enemy to win your battles! You have to either get your soul eaten by the chaos goderinos or run at the enemy with an ax like an idiot noooooo!
>"Haha hellcannon go boom"

You ever wonder why those southerners keep beating you anon?
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Had to quit my Azhag campaign mid-turn because the battles were beginning to wear on me. This game can be relentless sometimes, and fighting evenly matched battles is not so much fun as it is stressful.
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>>325648634
It's because they're weak and treacherous and hide behind walls and ranged weaponry, right?
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>>325644685
Nothing.
Furries just ruin everything they come into contact with.
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>>325648852
A big even battle or two is good.
A dozen is just repetitive, and worse, makes the first couple big battles less special.
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>>325648634
I miss when hellcannons had tree models instead of just 1
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>>325648852
close battles are fun for me, but having to play out super easy battles because autoresolve is trash is the boring part
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>>325648359
His race is indeed not explicitly stated, but I'd figure dark elves would make up the core of the army, instead of just mercenaries, if he was a dark elf.
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>>325649107
the AI being literally Skaven regardless of race is even worse. Its relentless microing, tarpitting and sniping tactics are very annoying indeed.
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>>325648634
>win
>commit sudoku
nothing personel, chaos gods
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>>325649452
I've found that pursuing retreating units off the map helps greatly reduce the annoyance that comes from when the enemy returns again and again. But that requires some micro or pausing
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>>325649884
NOOOOOO YOU GOTTA LIVE AND BE A TOOL FOR OUR GAMES YOU CANT JUST MAKE YOUR DEATH YOUR OWN
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>>325649452
suddenly made me realize how much cooler racial AI personalities would be instead of just
>hang back and do nothing if more ranged
>full retard rush if less ranged
But that would require an actually competent AI
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>>325649015
>Metal Bawkses
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Gib empire themed army ideas
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>>325650356
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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...moo?
News tomorrow, r-right fellas?
Raa roo and all that?
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>>325650504
maybe

trailer is usually on wednesday or thursday, which means teasers are usually on tuesday or wednesday

no teaser today, so, if there's no teaser tomorrow it's not this week.
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>>325650504
Haha
no
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>>325650504
>News tomorrow, r-right fellas?
>Raa roo and all that?
No.
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>>325649884
>Give your eternal soul to the CG's in exchange for things like, power, armor, steeds, and other boons. Guaranteeing you eternal torment and suffering upon death.
>"I'll just kill myself That'll show em!"

Norscan intelligence everybody.
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Which RAAA ROOOO will be added?
I want moonclaw for the memes
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>>325651028
>"Only then, when you see that all future DLC are Skaven... then you will have my permission to die."
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I hope they remove the ra roo voiceline this shit is mad cringe
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>>325651408
Taurox or Ghorros are the only realistic dlc options. You might get moonclaw as a flc or legendary hero (or maybe tech reward lord like the greenskin ones)
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Nurgle!
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>>325651454
Skaven vs Skaven DLC soon
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wait, how long have mutant rat ogres been a single entity unit? I swear they were a pack like regular rat ogres before
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>let's play the game at a higher difficulty
>but let's also cheese
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of playing on a higher difficulty? Besides, you shouldn't HAVE to cheese. Wouldn't you be able to mitigate, and eventually overcome the debuffs Legendary gives you with army buffs from Lords? Melee defense/morale, for instance.
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>>325651734
In-game?? Always.
Table top? Idk. I don’t even know if they actually had rules on TT.
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>>325651734
Mandela effect.
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>>325616258
aaaaaaaa
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>>325652049
I too use this as an excuse whenever I misremember anything
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>>325652174
You're a faggot though
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>>325651608
>Ghorros

What should his unique campaign mechanic be?
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>>325652403
rape
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>>325652403
Centigor RoRs based on LLs he defeats
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>>325652403
When he gets knocked down.
He gets up again.
You're never going to keep him down.
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>>325652403
>Ghorros had a great number of centigor sons
those poor empire and bretonnian women
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>>325651408
>>325651608
Why not Ungrol? Imagine capturing the Tzarina with him...
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>>325652403
Idk maybe taking more prisoners increases horde growth and gives unique units?

>mfw they add a breeding mechanic with captured female lords
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>>325652582
tfw no beastwomen
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>>325652579
>Uncels
NO THANK YOU I don't want to see Ungor(hand guns)
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>>325652403
With all that rape shouldn't he be a slaaneshi champion??
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>>325652403
What would it be for any poopee? Raze some shit, defeat some enemies, worship da bad moon, get some rewards.
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>>325652756
>>325652756
>>325652756
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>>325652814
>this early
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>>325652294
seething
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>>325652814
>Schismfag
>500 posts early
Bruh.
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>>325652965
Why would Settra hate elves?
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>>325652582
>fay enchantress gives centigor ROR with bound life spells
>aranessa gives centigor ROR with anti-large and regen
>morathi gives centigor ROR with bound dark spells
>crone hellebron gives ROR with damage boosting actives
>alarielle gives centigor ROR with magic bows
>isabella gives centigor ROR with bound vampire spells and the hunger
>cylostra gives centigor ROR with ethereal
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>>325652403
>greater bestial rage penalties for encamping
>greater horde growth for sacking citiesk
>centigors buffs
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>>325653032
He doesn't, it's a lazy meme

Tomb Kings fight dwarfs more than elves
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>>325653032
He doesn't, it's just a memri meme. Tomb Kings hate Nagash but after that they mostly hate dwarfs for stealing their gold.
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>>325652403
>implying they won't add the ungor incel king instead
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>>325651825
>Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of playing on a higher difficulty?
Autism says that cheesing IS a way of mitigating the debuffs. It's effective too.

Besides when you post your screencap of your very hard achievement. You can tell the idiots on here to get good and lie to yourself that you're a pro.
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>>325653032
Why would anyone not hate elves?
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>>325653032
they gave him a hard time way back when because he made the first human empire that bothered them
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>>325652814
earlynigger get the rope
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>>325653258
>Living Nehekhara army fighting together with a high elf army against daemons
That sounds kino as fuck
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>>325653258
Settra also teamed up with Druchii to destroy Sartosa once.
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>>325653449
That is the skelly era, Settra wasn't alive when the Black Pyramid was built.
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>32 more posts
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>>325654146
earlyfag is starved for attention
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>>325654146
post about how much we hate MP or the ratfags or something
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>>325653032
He doesn't at all, in fact Khemri - High Elves relations seem pretty good lore-wise. No major fights, pretty much only positive stuff. He's even accepted a gift waystone from Finubar that protects Ulthuan (and the world) after they've adorned it with pictures of him slaying monsters. It's a Memri TV meme, nothing more. He's more likely to hate Dwarfs if they stole his gold, but I can't remember anything like that involving Settra in particular, so he probably only really hates vampires, Chaos worshippers and Nagash.
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Reminder that AsoIaF would have:
>Renaissance Zweihanders and rapier duelists in Braavos
>Crossbows and I think even Repeater Crossbows all over the Free Cities
>Axe-Priests of Norvos
>animalistic pygmies in Sothoryos
>Pirate Kingdoms in the Basilisk Isles and Stepstones
>Warrior-Society of Amazons in the Eastern mountain passes
>The Summer Isles are basically black sex-worshipping England with their op golden-wood longbows and Carracks dominating the seas, C'thulu worshiping Vikings on the Iron Isles
>Neanderthal whaler axemen on Ibben
>Tatars in the Dothraki Sea
>Mongol Jogos N'Hai
>fish people on the Thousand Islands
>Dragonriding Romans in Valyria
>Byzantine Empire in Volantis
>Pike-wielding Unsullied slave soldier mercenaries
>Slaver's Bay cities which are basically Phoenicia
>Ghiscar is Macedon but in Egypt
>Yi'Ti is China
>Wildling Savages are Highlanders but more frozen and savage plus giants and other weird meme clans that can contribute meme units to the roster
>The North are Lowland Scots and Northumbrians
>The Vale is Switzerland but with heavy cav for some reason
>The Reach is France
>Dorne is a mishmash of Andalusia and the Christian Iberian realms
>The Westerlands could have greater access to mercenaries
>Then of course you've got the Others with ice spiders and all manner of risen dead.
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>>325653341
Isn't there a mural of elves and nehekarans standing side by side?
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>>325654340
Goddamn I sure hate f*rfags and stuff.
Let's just throw them all in an oven or something.
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Remind me why they banned coomer mods for 3K when they make assets like this?
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>>325654723
They never banned anything. Grace sperged out but it didn't result in anything
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>>325654723
>oiled up ass for the beastchads
RAAROO
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>>325651028
what kind of rat creature is this
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>>325654693
Yeah, dunno the context
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>>325626182
Base it off Epic. At that scale you have room to have all the iconic units, including titans and superheavies, and the fact that the basic unit is something like an imperial guard company would do a lot to alleviate the complaints that the total war engine is only capable of smashing square formations of units together. At the company scale and above, that's what you're dealing with anyway. Plus it would be an unexplored niche in 40k games. We've had squad and platoon level games in DoW, now give us an honest to god Epic/Apocalypse scale game.
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>>325655076
Seems pretty clear, dabbing on chaos.
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>>325654712
based
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>>325626182
>40k known for massive battles and millions if not billions of casualties
>for some reason fags cling to squad sized battles like like a OP clings to cocks
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>>325655635
>WW2 battles had thousands if not millions of casualties
>therefore, troops just walked around in massive block formations

sasuga retard-kun
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>>325626182
You're right. Current CA is too lazy to do that, they already removed sieges and naval combat I doubt they will add something like space combat, naval combat and aerial combat just for a 40k game.
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>>325655784
name one WW2 battle that had casualties of a million or more
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>>325646946
>start Mazda game during that time
>fiddling around in Lustriabowl, almost have it cleaned up
>heading up north to fuck with Mally now
>run in to Vashnaar
>hmm, should probably remove him before he becomes a pr-
>18 settlements
>head to Southlands instead
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>>325655940
stalingrad
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>>325655979
>small family settlement
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>>325655981
only because it was a siege and the participants decided to autoresolve it
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>>325652814
Earlyfags should be permanently banned.
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>>325655981
In fairness, Stalingrad was a military blunder
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>>325630678
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>>325616258
roll
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>>325619731
kek
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WE WILL HAVE VENGEANCE.
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>>325630143
>click on 4channelpostermanii
(in chaos warrior voice)
>CUM FOR THE CUM GOD
>ARE YOU A MCCHICKEN
>SNEEDTHE, MORTALS

>click on exalted janitor hero
>GOOKMOOT'S PERVERSE GLORY
>I CONTROL THE MODERATORS' GIFTS
>FOR FREE
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