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>New Events
Collab Event: Reincarnated as a Slime (~3/04)
STEP Grimoire: Rookie Support (~3/04)
STEP Grimoire: Magicules Summoning Part 1 - Rimuru/Sorc & Shizu/Breaker (~3/04)
STEP Grimoire: Magicules Summoning Part 2 - Shuna/Cleric & Milim/Gunner (~3/04)

>Current Events
Conquest Event: Crystals of Rejection (~2/26)
Grimoire: Lupercalia's Prayers - Alice/Valentine(Breaker) (~2/26)
Redux Grimoire: Confined Tropical Fish - Mermade/Alt(Minstrel) (~2/26)
Redux Grimoire: Darkroom Researcher - Dorothy/Alt(Crusher) (~3/02)

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>Glossary & Terminology
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTaloRurJROyS8F1SfEfkFDkp6xwWH1kxRYCtvQeL6vnrj3eFJ6PITadMVOLsrLVxoKhPcwQv0JTd7H/pub
>Starter Guides
https://pastebin.com/RgFyypBw
https://pastebin.com/fd7rUn0m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awRnz_2xPPk

____________________

>Database
https://sinoalice.game-db(dot)tw
>Notices
https://api-sinoalice-ap.pokelabo.jp/web/announce/index?type=0&languageType=2
>Guilds Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-hWmTrvpG31WVutHGMJ1VLrzTizfqD0ru5Fgo9bQJh0
>Nightmares Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vpvNBdYSXqz3Y2hb1UcKVnJNKBb4jEx_fI7KYxHLrRU
>High Res Art
https://mega.nz/folder/ybBxwATa#DyHDtME_EKdp26kx_9MbPg

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>>323819520
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>>325307565
good red
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tfw no SINo gf
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thread 99... I can't believe we're still here
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>>325311997
started from the bottom, now we're here. end it.
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>>325315667
Still at the bottom bby. Consistency is key
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no fry pan... you were supposed to save a spot for me for after gran...
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>>325311997
you can thank 3 faggots for this "accomplishment"
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>>325323065
why are you still here though?
if youre that pissy about a shitty gacha game general existing, think the best option would be to just ignore it while the thread dies
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>>325323065
I'm one of them
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>>325307565
My queen
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Last thread I posted where I downloaded every SINoAlice image from Pixiv

https://mega.nz/folder/u5khgaxS#HivGdVSeLxo0T2Lsd558LQ
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>>325323065
your welcome
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It's bullshit they're giving us the same standards as the jp autists for the crystals and weapon giveaway. For reference:
https://twitter.com/sinoaliceglobal/status/1363065948136116224
vs
https://twitter.com/sinoalice_jp/status/1363065862052265984

Unless they're counting jp's interactions for us too since eng mentioned the date rewards will be sent out?
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Will GC rewards be delayed for Asian servers? They will have GC finals a lot earlier than NA so final rank will not be available yet right?
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>>325352240
Bro....
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>>325353137
Am I wrong?
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>>325354264
Are you joking or have you been unaware of the server merge?
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YT got a biography manga, first chapter out so far
https://cycomi.com/fw/cycomibrowser/chapter/pages/12220
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i want them to add yoko taro as a SINo
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>>325359951
Bro your Emil/cleric?
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>>325355139
I know of the merge but does that mean finals will be on the same ts?
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>Starting 2/22 at 07:00 (UTC+0), you can summon the new Double Trouble grimoire! Unlock new classes Little Mermaid/Crusher or Dorothy/Minstrel with new SR weapons Iron Ball of Misery and Ukulele of Curiosity!
Lol can rearguards not have their own banner anymore? These were separate in JP, could've at least shoved in Mer sorc so it'd be a useful combo for rearguards, plus they're skipping several things to get to Mer crusher, possible nerfs.
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>>325373832
kusolabo is afraid of giving minstrels numbers, they think somehow that minstrels getting gud had an impact on their jp gacha sales
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>mfw new banner will have +cost and I didn't blow my GC rewards for slime.
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v11 and 12 are so hard and they give so many medals...
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I have mad respect for my rival guild for going all slime on the finals. There goes our chance to rank high though.
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>>325361572
Yes, there's two different finals slots, no, nobody knows when rewards will be sent out
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>>325373832
>Out of crystals
>Both another ministrel class and LM class
Fuck me
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>>325389660
>rank high
What do you mean? Finals don't affect overall ranking
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>>325389660
Mean
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I got Shizu and Rimaru on my last Step. What should I do now?
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>>325417605
time to quit
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>>325359853
>>325359853
Cool, I thought it was just fanart
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>>325418446
But what should I do with my slime medals I mean?
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>>325343130
based, thanks good compeer
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>>325376849
code?
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SERVERS SHITTING THEMSELVES DURING FINALS FUCK YEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>325434583
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Is Kusolabo trying to break some sort of record for numbers of times it's possible to fuck up a game in less than a year or something?
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ACTION CANNOT BE REPEATED OVER A SHORT PERIOD
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I demand compensation for this shitfest of a final
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>debuff someone to -12 m.atk
>he swap to RRH HNM
Thanks Pokelabo.
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>>325437126
I-is weapon swapping available?
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>>325437497
Only during the most important match of the month.
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>>325437126
What does set swapping look like anyway, is there a button to do it?

>>325436342
>>325436948
Who cares, it'll give us more apologems.
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>>325438445
Shit was broke and you could simply back out and change your active set.
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>>325438641
Ah, was wondering if they had programmed in the deck swapping feature JP has but keep it hidden, like the raid story button that some anons see for a second.
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Feels good man
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>>325439169
That's how they get ya. It's a trick of the mind
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Haha guess who has 6 Shuna staves and 0 Milim guns.
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>>325440606
A great Cleric?
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>>325440851
Y-yeah, definitely a rearguard cleric, haha.
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>>325440606
PM gift me a copy please. Technically that's more useful since you get another mlb medal bonus.
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>>325440606
meanwhile a cleric in my guild MLB's the gun with zero staves
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>>325444319
>>325444319
All is right in the world
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>rope break
>it's the orb
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>>325446653
>rope break
>pic related
Yes, that was my 6th staff.
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>>325359951
Every shota in his games are self inserts, go wild on Pino you crazy bitch
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>>325436419
Oh thank fuck it wasn't just me. I was about to turn the game off when this kept happening.
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bros... i only have 2700 crystals left...
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>>325447184
I suspect he self inserts as shotas to get femdommed, twincest'd, and have gay sex with men, and also as pedos since he wants to fuck the shotas and lolis too. Although he was added long after YT left, Hameln is probably the closest sino to being him.
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>not being a shitter of all trades master of dung
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>>325449575
Become as Gun
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When do the other samsara get put in the shop
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>>325459474
If you mean for the two new weapons then either next month or the month after if they only add LM hnm next month. Mostly likely they'll make mins suffer more and LM will be the addition month after next.
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Hi everyone guess what I love Dimis and Rion.
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>>325470762
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>>325471185
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>>325471393
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make your own general, sis
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Managed to get all the slime classes!Except Alice, the f2p life is hard...
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>>325472885
I hope you actually like the characters
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picdump you're posting the wrong pics
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New additions to the Hi Res Art folder, no slime Snow
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>>325477871
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>>325481000
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Attention GMs, if you don't see Kraken in your sorcs' logs by end of next week you need to kick them~ Here's an L with similar skills for comparison
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>>325470762
I think a big reason I'm uninterested in the Nier game is that it's pushing the cowboy guy over any waifus and I'm a notgay.

The only characters I can recognize are the cowboy and the bugman, but Sino smartly led off with tits and thighs.
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>>325488995
prosthetic thigh girl though
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>>325499535
Post her I haven't seen her
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>>325499561
Looks like a reject A2 if you ask me
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>>325506627
Nope, doesn't work. Compare her to Alice and you can see why one works and the other doesn't. Alice has a lot of features that are exaggerated and pop immediately - the bunny ears, the big skirt, her huge sword, her chain - but that girl just fades into a gray mass.

She isn't like A2 either. A2's body is a lot more covered and her clothes are tattered and has a big head of white hair that hangs over her face to make her look dark.
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>>325506627
When I rolled her 3 star I actually thought I rolled A2
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>>325510579
I think they just appeal to different people. I don't think Sino's design are stellar, most of them are over designed, but they grew on me anyway
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>>325513850
There's no such thing as overdesigned, only underdeveloped brains.
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>no recruitposters
Anon is looking for Supports. We're mostly looking for ~100k points, but I only really care about whether you're active or not.
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>>325516191
Hey there, joe
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>>325464181
Next month is the HNM breaker
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>>325517207
KA
GU
YA

MY WIFE
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>new snow doll is also an event bonus weapon
Is it worth limit breaking this too? 40k event medals seems a lot for an orb I won't use.
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>>325519663
You should have a ton of Purification tickets...
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>>325519663
If you're like me, you've already evolved it to L and MLB'd it.
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haha time to auto 100 prison stages
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>>325514716
Idk they seem too cluttered to me
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What if they added Momotaro and he was a shota brat

What if they added Thumbelina and her thing was that she was a demure doormat that everyone took advantage of
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There's no colo today btw
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>>325523948
I don't think we're getting new sinos, sis. In any case I'd rather have reality arcs for the newer characters, which looks even less likely.
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>>325525236
We are owed new Sinos.
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>>325525375
They owe us Aladdin on global and it's fucking bullshit that they tell us to wait 6 more months, with no certainty that it will be him and not the slut.
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>two full step ups
>two orbs
Great event.
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>>325525818
They need to do them in a one two punch together, and then do matches and hamelin. Then they can move on to the first Global/JP simultaneous Sino.

They need to step it up. JP got to be sweating for a new story arc and they can't let us get even further behind.
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>>325526069
Orbs should flat out be removed from the game or reworked completely. They are an active detriment to the game, polluting banner pools and being a trap for newbies. Other than one or two which are gimmick stat skill vehicles they serve no purpose at all other than to waste designs that could have been used for weapons people actually want.
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What should I do with 2.1k prison medals? My main grid are mostly skilled 20 or maxed already.
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>>325526467
Hopefully you've been buying the crystals and puri tickets, also spear to mlb. Otherwise get Finas and Wardens to use as nm tablets, armor to feed for your other armors skills, weapons to level your other job's skills as I doubt you have all your elemental PvE set skills raised.
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>>325526368
The only way to fix is go back in time to the game's release to have orb shinma, make more mage classes, possibly make some phys damage orbs, and to make each banner rate ups rear lineup only including orbs, and van lineup only thus eliminating dumb spec banners. There's barely any orbchads because from day 1 the weapon has been treated as something shameful to use. All other dps weapons are everywhere; medal shops and commonly as side rate ups on rearguard class banners.
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Am i strong yet...
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>>325525818
I'm still mad they teased Aladdin last year, then last stream they just bluntly told us to wait another 6 months. Fuck them.
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Lucklets is still looking for a minstrel
Unless that one anon decides to apply
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Hey...
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>>325536762
Can you guys stop harassing our guild.
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>>325536762
Do us a solid bro.
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>>325536762
Just end it.
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>>325536762
>>325537814
>lose on purpose to a guild so they don't drop to B
>end up in the same position afterwards
deucebros...
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how the heck do I grind this event out enough to get 100k medals? This one feels so much harder to grind out than the last couple. I've got the Shizue and Rimaru weapons, the book, hammer, bow, and Alice Ogre's spear in my grid, and even with a Drop Rate potion I'm still getting miniscule amounts of medals per run
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>>325542169
Bro? Your purification tickets?
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>>325542237
I've been burning off puri tickets but even then it's taking forever.
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>>325542169
You get free SR and S weapons as medal multipliers just by logging in, and you get another S weapon multiplier as you do the event. There's even a SR bow in the shop for you to MLB, which gives even more multipliers on top of being a proper weapon in its own right.

Also, try to ask for hep from your guildmates to do hardmode v12 so you can dump your skip tickets there. Somebody in my guild got to 100k in like the first day or two simply because they did this.
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>>325542720
Our guild still cant beat V12
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>>325536762
Our 3 clerics were CPUs and we were missing 6-7 overall... gg
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>>325543463
it was really close for your guild being in such a bad state
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>Using several stat down NMs against a guild with literally one ministrel
Thanks for further increasing my hatred of the game, I guess.
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I wish I'd been a minstrel instead of a sorcuck. Sorcs are the retarded bastard stepchildren of RGs
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>>325542169
I don't have a single gacha weapon, haven't used a single purification ticket, and I'm already at over 30k.
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>>325543985
what dont you love having to play *any other job* for pve?
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>>325544160
Clerics are the most easymodo class because they can just use their normal colo gear in PVE no questions asked. Minstrels are rarely necessary in PVE, while Sorcs have a handfull of missions made for them where they have to do one thing or everyone else dies, but both still need to be able to be functional Clerics
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>>325543686
Double checked the lifeforce and recovery and well, yeah...
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Do i really have to finish v12 in under 5min to use skip tickets?
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>>325547526
Just get lucky, lol.
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>>325547526
just get your guildies to help, yuno before last wave to burst through debuff
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>>325548929
Bro i have to help my guild with 11
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>>325544863
Something else is lacking too.
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>>325547526
Do it pre-patch when he hit for 1 damage :^)
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>watched an ad last night after the reset
>watched another right after maintenance
>two more throughout the day
It's only +5 crystals but something interesting to take advantage of on maintenance days.
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Somebody said that the Kraken book was good, but it's 1 point over what I can equip. My grid is currently all L's except 2, one of which is the new book from the Gran Colo medal shop.
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>>325559574
kraken is absolutely nutty, you should max it.
just grind rank to get cost for it, it outperforms ass notes
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>>325560542
>it outperforms ass notes
jesus christ i feel like a cuck for buying it now
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not always, but its still pretty fuckin good
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>>325560803
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Do I pick up 3 Arcanas with my Medals of Desire (RRH/Alt, Pino/Alt, Snow/Alt) or a class? The class would be Dorothy/Alt (so I actually have a vanguard for Dorothy), Snow/Gunner (for +1 cost, already have 2 +1 cost classes), or Alice/Valentine (kinda cute, limited valentine class)?
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>>325563735
Snow is the optimal choice, but the girl you like is always the best one, especially if limited
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>>325563735
not gonna look but i thought i remember reality arcana being +hp which makes them pretty worthless. if that's the case go with class
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>>325561146
Kraken tome is absolutely disgusting and it's never leaving my grid. I love it.
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>>325542169
>Alice Ogre
Thank you for funding the server I guess.
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>>325472721
I will after you make this general alive...

>>325488995
>it's pushing the cowboy guy over any waifus
I may be shilling him and the shota here, but the official art is mostly of the loli Fio, the notA2 Frenlyse, and the notParrahNoya ghost Mama. If you mean cowboy and bugman have the most unique designs then I agree, also the bald couple and beardbro. Everyone else is just pale bishoujo and bishounen with Yoshidaface.

>>325513850
Jino's FASHION is one of the few charms of this kusoge. Purposeful over-design is a staple of gothic lolita.
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>>325577465
>>325577674
>>325577881
>>325578091

best girl!
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Okay, maybe I won't quit...
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>>325561146
>free S book is one of the best books
>new collab gacha harp is broken and is absurdly weak for an SR
What did they mean by this?
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>>325593001
>is broken
>is absurdly weak
Does not compute. Looks like a great harp to me?
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>>325593402
Not all skills are equals - there's hidden multipliers and Coax is one of the weaker Hero's Rhapsody of the title.
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>>325593675
Because it's single target and not 1-2 targets?
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>>325593402
>One target
Instantly shit tier
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>>325593783
It's 30% less effective than similar Hero's Rhapsody III
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>>325594317
I think you mean than Hero's Harmony?
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What's the difference between "executing commands" and "providing backup" with support skill descriptions? Is commands any support or damage weapon, and is backup just support?
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>>325594427
Like someone said previously, not all skills with the same name are equals, there's also effectiveness multipliers unique to each weapon working in the background.
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>>325593402
>>325593675
Skills can share the same name and rank, but if they have a different SP cost, its a different multiplier
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>>325595051
Damn what the hell, so is it the higher cost that are better?
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>>325595319
Generally, yeah. Few exceptions would be the conditional skills like disadvantage weapons (Heatwave, Red's shovel)
If you cant meet those conditions, youre paying extra for nothing
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>>325569843
She's cute and I love Alice though
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>>325577465
>>325577674
>>325577881
>>325578091
my Mexican goddess
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why do we get hundreds of tower medals? it looks like more than enough to clear the shop several times
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>>325601125
okay just added it up, it's not excessive medals even though it seems like it
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>>325307565
Don't bother with this anymore after the merge they have been stealing weapons. Happened to me in my item box I know cause I had 2 orbs and a book in there waiting for the recycle banner. Gobal is a mess. I am just going to quit, the global devs dont care about the game at all
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>>325609015
Hi schizo, things expire in 3 months after receiving in the gift box. Use 10 crystals to expand inventory.
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>>325609015
other than the 3 month expiration date, items in box can only display the last 20 pages
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>>325609015
clear out your gift box you retard
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>>325609015
here's your (You)
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>>325609015
Why didn't you claim them...?
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>>325609015
We're never getting a recycle gacha.
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I need a Sino fightan and it needs to be the jankest shit ever made.
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>>325642960
In a better world, whales would pool their resources and just buy the fucking IP. But they are cozy throwing money at this kusoge in exchange for getting the feeling that they are "esports" material in at least one(1) game.
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>>325544518
>he doesnt know that 2 or 3 nightmares replace the entirety of sorcs in conquests straight out meanwhile misntrels make every conquest vanguard grid hit for 150k+s fast and easy

Only exception being ziz
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>>325594024
Worst part is
>p and m attack up
What vanguard post 175k is still getting away with salad
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>>325594757
Yes
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>>325642960
I want a SINo action game made by eastern europeans or south americans with an inscrutable barely translated plot
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>>325645524
Minstrels are nice to have in PVE but unless you're fighting enemies that spam debuffs most VG weapons and Staffs carry enough buffs to nearly max you out, no instruments required.

Clerics are the only RG that are required. And of your VG is kitted out right, then you don't even need them.
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>>325647985
You clearly dont play the game if you think the L weapon skills that increase attack and defense actually do anything.
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>>325655498
They're generally enough to get you up to 7-10, which is enough for PVE.
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If you are a TS4 minstrel and are very passionate about genociding the French please apply to Lucklets today
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>>325656590
Takes 4 attack up level 15 pve skills to get to 2. Keep dreaming
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>>325656726
I am a rearguard main and my VG set can get me up to 5 MAtk easy so maybe you're just bad
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>>325646208
alternatively a Doujin porn VN with absolutely vile genitalia metaphores
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>>325656849
Whats your base m attack then? at 60k p attack, the weapon buffs dont do shit
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So this is the power of B rank...
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>>325657246
Is it just one guy?
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>>325657282
Yep. He's also french >>325656608.
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The strongest little ministrel
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>>325645823
That too.
Sadly decent mono attack harps are fucking terrible so I still have a few multi target ones that do that.
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Wait how does this happen? How do I have 8 uses for 2 things but 10-11 for everything else?
I got a couple "no effect" uses, but that shouldn't detract from the total amount.
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>>325664372
Could be a thing where something is used right as a ship attack starts.
Sino is weird
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>>325525236
I think they confirmed they were working on getting reality arcs for Aladdin through Match Girl out this year, but it will cause JP to likely not see a new character this year.
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>>325664372
evolve your tooter
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>>325670419
Yes sire, anything else sire?
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>>325671835
level up those skills
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>>325672776
I knew it.
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>>325664372
>>325671835
>>325673018
Holy moly evolve every instrument to L and level their skills to minimum 10 before they kick you. Disregard shitty support skills like replenish magic if you're using gems.
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>>325677072
But... I'm a vanguard... >>325657246
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>>325677449
should have said that sooner
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You guys beat V12 Hard in under 5 minutes right? You're not a shitter, right? Your guild needs you
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>>325680370
Our guild can't clear it
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You already cleared the store, right?
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>>325687649
N-no...
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>>325687649
There's literally zero reason to have done that when clearing prison event is gonna take 2 purifications and there's nothing else to do.
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Is Cinderella a bottom?
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>>325690514
I don't think she'd be very interested in sex. She's too broken. I think she would either top or just lay there and let you fuck her, depending on what she thought you wanted, but I don't know if she'd enjoy either.

I really don't know what Cindy would actually enjoy. Everything she does is fake just to claw her way into safety and stability, but if she ever actually got it, she'd probably end up self-destructing trying to keep it. Her dying as soon as she got what she wanted was probably the best result she could have gotten.
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>>325688005
Gonna take? I already cleared that too
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>>325656849
>maybe you're just bad
>at a "game" that plays itself
>based on numbers getting bigger from much money you are willing to spend
yikes, v sad post
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>>325691240
Man all your takes on characters are wildly inaccurate. Cindy loves sex because it allows her to pull down everyone to her level and debase them all. Her trait is depravity because all she wants is to make everyone feel as bad as she does. Sex is a means to an end for that, but it doesn't mean she doesn't enjoy it. She'd hop on a dick and embarrass them for cumming in 5 seconds. That's what Cindy wants power for, not safety and security.
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>>325701604
That's a shallow misreading of the character. The entire point of her Reality arc is that she's manipulating her way to the top because she believes it's the only way she won't be preyed upon.
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>>325702409
Reality Cindy wants what men have in the Reality version of the world - freedom from consequences, essentially. It's a recurring theme across all the Reality versions. Men routinely get away with every single heinous crime they commit against the women in Reality, and the true crimes are covered up. Cindy doesn't want "safety" at the top, she wants to be that predator.
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>>325703148
Reality is truly a feminist arc now that you mention it.
But I see her general concept as striving for true independence, of getting the things she wants by choice, and not by circumstances.

Being morally bankrupt is a byproduct of her "end justifies the means" approach, so I see the "Depravity" meme as misleading in that regard.
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>>325703148
>she wants to be that predator.
But that's the whole thing! Those are the same thing to her. You're either beautiful or ugly, predator or prey.

It isn't just that she wants to be the predator because she thinks it's cool. She wants to be the predator because somebody has to be, and if it's not you, then you're the one who's getting preyed on.
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>>325703148
>this whole post
Global was a mistake.
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>>325704419
No, she doesn't want to be predator because it's cool, she wants to be predator to treat men exactly how they treat women in Reality, i.e, pulling them down to her level while trying to pull herself up to theirs. It's not incongruous with depravity as her trait. She beats, berates and manipulates men with sex, and for daring to step out of her place, she's poisoned.
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>>325690514
She'd be a top, of course.
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>>325705212
If you think this is just some sort of Gender Studies conclusion you're fucking illiterate. Reading comprehension, faggot, do you have it?
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>m*n who think they know what womyn want
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>>325680370
I-If you fill out this information then we can clear it. Your patronage will be very much appreciated!
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Would new items be available on the event shop? I cleared it and now I don't know if I should farm for shackles or the event. I need 4 shackles to evolve my snow orb.
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What's the easiest way to clear Verse 12? Our guild can't do it at all.
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>>325715445
Event shops almost always add another bundle of crystals, shackles, and SR weapon/armor mats at event midway.
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>>325716618
Use Rabbit/Ceci on wave 1, various water NMs on waves 2-4, Yuno/Shadowlord on wave 5. Be prepared for the RNG to fuck you over by focusing one of your guildmates on wave 1.
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>>325716618
All water grids for VG, no excuses. Two healers, but one can be a salad RG for boosts and debuffs. Use Cecilia. Always target the same nightmare, starting from the top has become the universal strategy. Stall with one nightmare on a wave when your SP gets low. If you can't tank a hit your cleric won't be able to properly recover SP trying to heal you so don't be weak. Bring the Deep Sea armor for water dmg boost. Yuno before boss to try to burst through him. Don't panic if he clones, just keep at it.
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>>325718071
>>325717554
Do VGs have to be over 200k? Even with using SL the clone has enough time to get the main boss buffed and do an aoe instakill attack.
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>>325718071
>Deep Sea
Didn't think about that, thanks for the heads up.
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>>325718790
Nah, I did verse 12 with randoms who were around 160k range. Its gonna be way harder for you if your VGs are HPlets though.
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>>325718790
Nah none of us were that high. But you're going to be in trouble if your VG aren't strong enough to even finish off the original. I never came close to seeing the clone buff the boss before we killed the original, so I don't know what to say.
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>>325719129
Think he means any water armor, you can mix up armor for whatever your most common water weapons are. Deep sea as a set just has a bonus on dragons which is fine if you want to instantly kill the v10 boss for standard farming, but the collab snakes, ants, and Ifrit all fall under the "other" category and there's no event armor for them for some reason.
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>>325719610
Does the original need to die first or the clone? The boss notes are a bit vague and I can't tell who triggers the aoe attack.
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>>325719691
Deep Sea because the prison event is up and because it's a water attack boost. I don't know if there is any other water boost armor? Not because of any set boost, you're right. I'd still recommend going single weapon type for the armor, say swords, so that even with a mixed water grid you can save your big damage dealers for the boss.
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>>325720378
Bro your Invaders armor? It's gonna be able to get to L whereas Deep Sea is not. Raising one set or the other depends on if people want to have the niche chance to have more boosts on fire dragons or if they want more stats in the future.
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>>325720089
Don't know, honestly. The last two runs I was on we killed the original and then the clone no problem, but we were killing quickly. If that's not an option, take out the clone and then move back to original. I would assume the clone triggers the wipe.
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>>325720618
I missed out on the Invader armor, forgot all about it. Unless you're talking about the story support skill, raising one or the other is a moot point, just evolve both sets, this is an easy game.
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>>325720952
It's about the skill levels, people have already put in levels for one or other (I guess whales can max skill level both?) and they both have their different uses in the long run is what I mean.
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>>325719691
Deep Sea might be slightly better since Invaders only came in projectile and polearm, while there's Deep Sea for heavy and sword, which the boss is weaker to.
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>>325722115
Ah that's true. There's also Nier Automata armor for all water weapon types as well. In any case just use whatever set you've leveled the skills highest.
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So what's the deal with the prison story? Are some of the bosses able to jump back into real Japan?
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>>325736041
That's called a cliffhanger my friend
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As a Sorc slowly closing in on the point soft cap at around 170k, how important would it be to spend 1500 crystals to max out the arcanas from Slime collab? 600 stats is very good, but if it's only Defence is it still worth it?
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>>325742659
This is the final prison, use all your prison medals. I guess it's the same Satan in 5-10 that sends the sinos to see their original Tokyo selves.
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>>325716618
I (vancuck) can help with some first clears if you guys are lacking damage.
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What's the new normal to no longer be considered a pointlet? 220k for vg and 200k for rg?
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Taro gets fucked by his own game
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>>325742662
Permanent stat boosts from arcana are always worth it IMO. If you have the crystals I'd go for it. Especially because almost all of the weapons are worth getting, even better with some LBs.
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>>325745156
Yes please.

/nopan/, what time do you think we could try to grind this one out? Normally we try after colo at 9:30, but maybe a little before would be good?
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>>325754024
This is his game in the same way sino is his game. It's not.
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>>325742662
>point soft cap at around 170k
Is soft cap for f2p 170k? I'm trying to build a minsorc grid and I can reach ~180k with 6 unevolved weapons. Granted it's not optimized since I know jackshit about being a minsorc but do you have many cost 18 weapons? I only pull jobs from collabs or those with cost+ and the obligatory my dick is tingling and I need to get this job. Otherwise, I only pull on spec banner for my main class.

>600 defence
It depends on the arcana. Rimuru's has 300patk and 300pdef likewise Shuna has 300pdef and 300mdef so if you're a physical sorc then go with Rimuru if you have her. Or if you main as a def debuffer go with Shuna's.
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>>325757474
id 772954292. Let me know when you guys decide to give it a shot. Probably need 2 clerics. If we want sub 5min clears so people can use skip tickets, we're going to need some more dps as well
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Well, /sinog/?
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>>325769054
RG are worthless in PvE.
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>>325769054
Starting mobage after launch is a mistake.
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>>325769054
gretel is a boy
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>>325769054
yoko taro doesn't actually write as much for any of these games as you think he does
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>>325764914
Cool, added.
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>>325763172
>soft cap
I felt it's close to there because I thought I'm near 20 L books, but upon closer inspection I'm only at 16 L books, so there's still ways to go. But slowly getting there.
>phys sorc
My base stats lean towards phys, but I imagine that's for most everyone? I've been playing and pulling fairly passively. And with the vanguard meta still being magic heavy I'd like to not to specialize in specific stats yet. Are we closing in on that point?
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>>325778054
WAIT IS THA-
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>>325778054
weiner
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>>325778054
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We lost...
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So this is what an active cleric looks like.
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1 hour in and still up
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>>325778054
Cute.
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3 hours and it's still up
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>>325778054
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That new spear from the prison shop is surprisingly good.
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>>325804610
It's just a standard replenish magic thing. Chances are the dauntless courage of your other weapons happened to proc with it the most that day?
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>>325778054
>>325778698
>5 hours ago

OH NONONO
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why did i get a forced update for some shitty collab app icon? missed colo because of it
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>>325810802
Probably because you missed an update that couldve been downloaded over a week ago if you JUST got the collab icon
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>>325809117
I should've changed it to days...
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>>325809117
We all like cock here so no reason to report it...
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>>325778054
Will it they up for an entire week again
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>>325770232
Gretel is whatever I want
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>>325778054
Great power move, fellow faggot
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Next thread I will post Cindy tits then.
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>>325777024
I mean the skill of your books. Your debuffs scales with your base stats so if you're physical then your grid should have a lot of 2t patk and pdef debuffs.

>>325778054
That looks like my balls and I'm 29.
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>>325818752
You can't just say stuff like that and not post a pic
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>>325821157
bro why do you want to see his balls, you gay or something?
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why is this event once again another trash heap? nobody fucking hosts verse 12 outside of their guild 'cause it's impossible to survive long enough for anybody to join if people aren't jumping in right away, and why is it 60 ap a pop
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>>325826227
Just auto hard 10 and don't worry about it.
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>>325826227
Because it takes 5 minutes a run and you can't trust randoms in this fucking game. And it's so expensive because if you're strong enough to complete it consistently, you've probably got a 6x or more multiplier and it'd break the farming. Use some skip tickets instead. Or get an active guild like you're supposed to.
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There better be new items added on the shop. I spent a puri just to get 10k for the shackles. I'll be mad if there's none and I could've spent the puri for mat dungeon instead.
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Now that I looked at the codex. It seems that I'm missing a lot of jobs since I shifted my priority to pull only the spec banners.

And funnily enough, perhaps the Sino that loves me the most is Kaguya. I got all of the piggies but compared to the quantity of Kaguya's class theirs doesn't compare. Guess I'm a Kaguyafag then.
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>>325836716
You love Kagu anyway since you bought her but didn't buy other paids.
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>>325837106
Y-you're not supposed to point that out...
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>>325837312
Don't worry sis, we are all going to pay for a sino job eventually. For me, it's mizugi Cindy
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>>325832540
You want some of my blasted 130 of the fucking things?
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>>325578091
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where's the fucking shop refresh?
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>>325769054
Fina is a Qt pie
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>>325846046
In 30 minutes.
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>>325858525
Oh shit...
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>>325846553
>>325846353
>>325846171
>>325845815
>>325845982

Shes my wife
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>>325702409
>>325703148
>>325704132
>>325704419
>>325705498

I believe in tan girls supremacy
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>Armor Event! The armor event, The Perfect Trio will be available from 2/26 at 07:00 (UTC+0)! Get your hands on gear from the new Marching Band’s Series and new nightmare, The Nightmare Trio!
Here's another set that will be able to get to L someday with the same weapon types as deep sea armor, but apparently there's been only 2 fire Satans but several fire dragons and lizards in jp so eh.
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>>325858525
ah christ
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I can't believe it. I finally reached 200k points with my flex grid. Having no paid nm is the main cock block to reach 200k. Fucking paypiggies and their mlb Dryas and Yuno. At least kusolabo finally had the new nm packs for 450 tc to make it possible to reach 200k.

Now my goal to get my main grid to 200k. And I think to clutch it I need to be rank 200 for the extra subgrid slots and max out Fear.
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>>325867645
>At least kusolabo finally had the new nm packs for 450 tc
Wtf I did not know about this.
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>>325858525
>cindy paladin now after I've been drained by this event
Fuck. At least the banner goes for three weeks.
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>>325858525
YES
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Mmmh based
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>>325869636
bait, don't waste your crystals!
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>>325901874
it really isnt
assuming you havent already gotten them from random rolls, the nightmare alone is worth that price
Maybe pass on Uga if your guild already has one, but the stats on the other two are definitely worth looking at to help specialize
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>>325901874
FG is invaluable to a P attack focused vanguard and Uga is very skewed to p attack as well, lynd is skewed to M attack as a side note.

I have no idea why uga was not put with the support shit instead of lynd though. Also, those weapons are 16c stat focused weapons based on their types (for the vanguard packs) no idea about the support packs
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>>325907913
Doesnt lynd have the highest points yeild
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>>325818752
Haven't really checked how many 18 cost tomes I have, probably half. Still rocking a couple S-SR tomes. Other than that I'm kinda lost on the meager conversation we have. I know that de/buffs scale off of base stats, and my tomes' skills should kinda reflect that. But what I personally don't know if I should "spec" into being a physical Sorc or whatnot. Our guild at least struggles a bit with def debuffing, but how do def sorcs fare in the future? On that note I could spark either the 2att stat 1.5target tome, or the Valentine's tome on pity medals, and I'm kinda leaning on the former, but I already have a lot of att tomes
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>>325903792
>>325907913
i just wanted a reason to bump. I'll probably buy them just for the single limit break, but Slime collab drained me so it's not going to happen for some time.
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We won!
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>>325778698
It's finally gone.
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What are the best skills on staffs for pve?
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>>325927852
That's an improvement, the Arisu pic remained for days IIRC.
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>>325932043
Staves are the brainlet weapons to use, you can bring anything and they'll do the job. Much like books and harps, the 2 target or at least 1-2 target staves are best since if you're using the weapon bonus character your staves will pretty much one-shot fully restore hp even with 2 target types, unless you haven't increased story skill levels.
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>>325932438
What pic?
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>>325935158
The one with the goblet filled with gold and Gretel's cum.
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>>325935676
That's my cum
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>>325932043
Priority for clerics in either pvp or pve is to always go with 2T > 1-2T > 1T staves. Blessed gospel all the way. For support skills, RS >>>>> everything. RM is nice but with people having 40-45k hp one tap is not enough, especially with bosses now hitting for 20-30k hp aoe.
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>The puppets deems their attempt to ape Slime a failure because Alice and Snow aren't killing everything in sight.
>Fail to realizes that Slim'es main focus isn't really the action.
>Try to do it themselves, only to become normal slimes

This made me laugh.
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>From 2/26 at 7:00 (UTC+0), Nightmare in the Chapel, Dragon of the Depths, and Nightmare in the Woods conquest events are scheduled!
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>>325942201
I never tried to do conquests for the weapon or the nm but is it really hard? The timing system for it is dumb since I have work and other things to do. They really need to remove that system and make it a raid event instead. Anyway, are the rewards worth it for the trouble? I see the stats of the nm are just plain bad even at mlb and the weapons are just fillers, and not even worth for subgrid if you're already well set.
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>>325943708
Conquests are the most challenging content in the game. The limited time is to not split the player base, you want the most amount of people attempting it at the same time as possible. Are the rewards worth it? You seem like a casual, probably not. But the shell weapons have fully customizable skill sets and bonus stats once evolved.
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>>325945993
Meh, I'd rather have this game as an auto-tapper. Having to think on a mobile game is not my forte. I'd rather have my brain cells be used on Nioh 2 and huniepop.
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>>325943708
We're not really playing for the nightmares although there are some good ones if you don't have it's gacha equivalent, we're playing for crystals and the shell weapons. Normal verses are an essential part of f2p's crystal income. 1 crystal per run may not seem like a lot but it builds up. Jorm at the very least is extremely easy since he was the first one and has no retarded gimmicks, most players can even do hard modes of him. Fafnir is medium but by now most players should do some hard mode too especially if you have deep sea armor for phys weapons. Shrek is hard, but perhaps hard mode may be more doable now as long as us older players have maintained growth.

It opens like almost every 2 hours so to complain about the time is silly, you should be able to catch at least one 30 minute period per day, enough time to at least farm normal mode crystals.
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Hows the Gem to Gatcha? Is it decent or do you think they could give us more? 5 a day doesn't seem like much
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>>325949667
You're getting far more than 5 per day, you get 15 from 3 daily ads, 5 from friend medals, and whatever else from missions. See >>324889068
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>>325949667
Been keeping track and I've spent about 50k gems since release with a negligible amount coming from buying Rus once. So actual income is at least 6000 a month.
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>>325949920

Guess I haven't been checking in enough.

Speaking of daily ads, whats with some of them? I get one of those fake ass ads for a mobile game that has nothing to do with how it really plays and RAID
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>>325950231
Who cares just ignore and click the X when it lets you. The ads reset every 3 hours for a maximum of 3 views per day now, try to get into a viewing schedule. I personally do 1 view after reset (also get your daily free roll and friend medal crystals at this time), 1 view during breakfast or lunch, and 1 view in evening before reset. These are also good times to use stamina, even if it's 45 AP stuff you must puri and not let your stamina sit too long or else you'll be a ranklet.
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Shooting range when? I need more shackles and skill gems.
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Which do you prefer?
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>>325969663
I prefer Dad Nier
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>>325969663
The piss filter of the original along with the realistic-but-kinda-anime look aged really bad, just like other games of that gen. But new Kaine looks bland
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>>325909940
For vanguards point yield is worthless. You specialize in either P attack or M attack and then you build accordingly. Any P attack you get in an M attack build is literally worthless once you go HNM paladin or bow. All it does is inflate your own ego and point score worthlessly, its why salads are laughable
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>>325909940
Technically Ugallu does but only by 4 points. The only meaningful difference between the three is with their stat balance. Lyndwyrm is highly magic focused, with ~600 more max MATK than Ugallu and ~1000 more max MATK than Freeze Golem. The inverse obviously goes for PATK. The defensive values are practically the same between them though.
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>>325826227
>>325830662
>it takes 5 minutes a run
Verse 12 is for skip tickets. Host to get a clear and never deal with it manually again. Jp can easily auto it but we're not at that level yet. Verse 10 is where you want to auto farm and if you bring 4 good water pokemon you'll all wipe each wave with one hit so it's quick and easy.
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>>325970905
Have to agree, saw the newest trailer and her face is boring, didn't emote except for one shot. Old face was perfect for an angry peniswoman. I think the new faces look pretty good on everyone else though.
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>>325517207
n-no it can't be! LM is supposed to be next, look at the numbers!
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>>325982969
Can't wait to get mom
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>>325970905
Just like Reincarnation looks bland as fuck.

Sinoalice's writers at least decided to have fun with crude jokes and twists, that game is playing it so safe it hurts.
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>>325969663
Her chin is too big and pointy
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What ching chong did this?
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So I somehow managed to be on time during conquest and wow, it was fucking easy. I just used my wind farm grid and had my bots ready and just auto-tapped it without any problems. Perhaps the only problem I will have is if the boss is wind type, since I don't have a decent fire farm grid with how my main class have better water and wind weapons than fire.
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>>325864758
Uh apparently there's multiple marching band Satan armors... This is the one we actually got. There's just been 2 water Satans so still a very niche armor effect.

>>325992182
I keep getting fire guns and hammer spooks, they do the job but wish I'd get fire polearms instead. Ogre has eternally been a problem because of the rarity of fire for everyone or we're not getting the types we want.
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>>325987157
Report it so we get apologems
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>>325994124
Same here, over six months of the game and I still only have one L fire spear. At least fire projectiles are slightly easier to get a hold of.
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god those tits
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>>325979392
>tfw Nier will never angrily fuck you while he cries about his sister and Weiss makes disparaging remarks about his penis size
[chair clattering]
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this mommy class makes my penis erect
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With this sort of a grid, should I spark Diary of a Queen or Book of Moral Instruction? The latter could easily replace Flood Records, and the former could easily replace Grimoire Noir or Wiseman's Notes. I usually debuff att for 800k-1mil and def 600k-800k.
Or get one of the NMs, as I only have Freezing Golem, Scarlet and Noin from gachas. I know the new packs are there, too.
As I'm not close to cost limit I don't think it's worth to spark the Snow Gunner job.
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>>326010236
Do the divine virtue classes have a connection to the story or are disconnected?
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>>326001342
>one L fire spear
What the fuck? How many jims are you hoarding up if you only had one L fire weapon? At least my fire farm grid had 180k points, it lowered when I autismed my armor and apparently I only have A armor and no more crowns for upgrading it. I'll most likely not be able to farm shrek at this rate... But meh, it's not like I main vg and I just want to make farm grids for easier clear times while I auto-tap the game.
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>>326013525
>As I'm not close to cost limit I don't think it's worth to spark the Snow Gunner job
You will eventually need that +1 cost when you have cost 18 weapons to replace the old ones. And with the game already introducing cost 19 weapons, that cost+ will eventually be valuable.
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>>326016829
>one L fire weapon
One L fire SPEAR

If you look at the database, it's very clear polearms are getting fucked in terms of fire weapons. Highest is hammer with 16, then guns with 14, swords with 13, and then spears, which have a whole 7.
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>>326016829
Like the other anon mentioned, fire spears are where I'm lacking. I have lots of L fire guns and swords though.
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I fucking hate STEP banners.
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>>326020969
why?
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>>326023672
5 steps and no Cindy...
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>>326016829
You also have only 1 L Fire Spear
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>>326023672
On normal banners i get SRs every 2-3 pulls, on STEP its always on the last
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>>326029728
its literally rng my dude
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>>326029728
I don't get shit no matter when I pull or where I pull
I fucking hate this game.
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That's... topical.
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>>326032572
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Need rocks
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This update increased the amount of people you can follow, I'm not making this up, right? I swear I looked like 2 days ago and it was like 167 or something, now it's 200.
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finally an armor event that doesn't fucking suck
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wtt tan slut for scroll with SB2
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>>326044507
It's always been 200. You might have looked at like, your follower/following count by mistake.
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>>326049843
Definitely hasn't always been 200. Pretty sure it was tied to your rank and this update removed it.
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>>326016829
Aside from the misunderstanding, what is this god awful salad grid for? It won't be good at anything. Make elemental grids with majority boss's weakness element + minority boss's neutral element, ideally the majority of the weapon types being the classes' weapon too, as that's the only weapon that will get an area bonus if you're using the area character. I personally use unevolved leveled S weapons for the class as fillers, they get the area bonus and once I graduate from them by rolling another SR I can use them as fodder.

If I recall correctly Shrek's phys def was so good that water magic was more efficient than fire phys, so for him at least you can slap on any guns if you play gunner Alice or any polearms if you play paladin Alice.
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>>326054315
Like I said, this is just a farm grid. I just scrounge up any fire weapon and I don't care for any specialization for it. It's more of a hobby to keep myself bored of the game. I main rg and I could careless about optimization on pve/conquest as long as I can easily farm it.
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>>326058591
you're contradicting yourself, if you're not optimized for conquest, you can't easily farm it. You might have got away with Jorm but Shrek will rip your tits off.
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What are some official /sinog/ recommended games
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>>326070809
I think Silent Hill 2 fits the somber psychological vibe
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>>326070809
Mary skelter
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>>326062261
I don't really give a damn about conquest. I tried it only because people kept saying it's hard. Why would I pull for fire weapons for a farm grid if I can just auto it fine with what I have?
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>>326072174
That's what I'm trying to tell you, you won't be able to auto it with what you have. If you don't care then that's one less shitter I have to carry, but don't expect to be able to get through any of the actual difficult verses for Ogre with what you have, especially on auto.
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>>326072174
It's only fine for the easy standard 45 AP mat stages. You can't even farm events efficiently with it since events are always one certain element. I'm a f2p rearguard but even I have made vanguard sets for each element. Area bonus weapons, element efficiency, and specific armor sets > total points.
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would it be too difficult to edit the hell yeah stamp to some spanish exclamation, with a sombrero on her head, a mustache, and maracas in her hand?

also should i rope on the mexican grimoire
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>>326072615
>implying I need someone to carry me when I can just do normal for the tc
I only want the tc and I already have a full hnm grid and I just fed my shell weapons for skill points.
>>326073623
I don't know what grid you're packing but I farmed every event just fine doing EX2 or EX3. I usually have the game auto tapping while I work and just do puri to auto again.
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>>326077034
bro... shells can become god tier...
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>>326077034
like >>326077206
said, you can eventually reroll shell weapon skills to have a god combination of colo/collo support skills. disadvantage with dc2? thats a nutty combo
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>>326076836
>some spanish exclamation
Like what?

>should i rope on the mexican grimoire
Sure if you like to be paladin or if you want the book.
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>>326077034
Yeah go "auto tap" V11 and V12 of Slime Collab, you fucking shitter. You're a non-contributing waste of a space in PvE, if you're not optimized you're being carried.
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>>326080460
what is the spanish equivalent of hell yeah? ole? or maybe the onomatopoeia for vuvuzelas buzzing
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>>326081265
>¡A huevo!
For Mexican Spanish
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Have you guys tried playing Priconne Global yet?
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Surprised to see that the story for this event continues on into the hard mode.
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>>326083930
Yes, I was even namedropped here of all places...





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