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>comfy edition

>News
- Zendikar Rising is out, along with customizable emotes and stickers
- Kaldheim releases January 28th along with early access cross-platform mobile play for certain Android devices
- After that, we're going Strixhaven: School of Mages (Elite magical university with five colleges battling each other with their own takes on magic), Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms (Standard set in the Forgotten Realms) and then two Innistrad sets, the first more devoted to Werewolves and next more devoted to Vampires (with some sort of vampire wedding), separated by 3 months each
- Zendikar Rising Championship won by Brad Barclay (Azorius Control, Scotland, He)
- Kaladesh Remastered is out with 300+ new cards for Historic
- Omnath, Locus of Creation is now banned in Standard and Brawl and suspended in Historic. Escape to the Wilds and Lucky Clover are banned in Standard. Teferi, Time Raveler and Wilderness Reclamation are properly banned in Historic. while Burning-Tree Emissary is unbanned.
- Zendikar Rising Traditional and Premier drafts going on until January 21/28
- Zendikar Rising Quick Drafts going on until January 15
- Card Styles are offered for players that play a ranked game in Gold (Relic Axe) and Platinum (Throne of Makindi) rank
- Full mobile release, including iOS, is planned for later in the year

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>Previous Thread
>>320577991

>Thread Question
How many weeks until the first cards are banend.
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1st for ban standard players from posting here
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based OP
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>>320738591
What's even supposedly ban worthy? Tibalt? Tree? Rainbow Path? The 6/6 Deathtouch and exile your deck god?
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Is this set gonna be the least powerful non-core non-remastered set since Ravnica Allegiance? If so, are you happy or sad with that?
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>>320738741
based
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"Bears of Littjara"
1GU
Enchantment - Saga
I - Create a blue 2/2 shapeshifter creature token with changeling.

II - Any number of target shapeshifter creatures you control have power and toughness 4/4.

III - Choose a target creature or planeswalker. Each creature with 4 or more power deals damage equal to its power to that permanent.
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>>320739184
the second chapter says until end of turn right?
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>>320738741
the post that saved /mtgag/
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>>320739424
haha good one
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>>320739184
>bears
>only creates a single bear
>2nd chapter un-bears it
>3rd chapter doesn't care about bears at all
this shit is unacceptable
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>>320739184
beary nice
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>>320739424
No, then it does nothing on III.
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>>320739068
we're not halfway through the spoilers but they've been kinda disappointing so far
way too much creatureshit makes me sad considering the garbage they're blowing rare and mythic rare slots on like the pro walkers angel won't even get played
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>>320739642
>WAAAAH, STANDARD IS WAY TOO BROKEN, MUH F.I.R.E.
>Oh, ok, we'll power this stuff down, then
>NOOOOO, HOW BORING!!!
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"Mystical reflection"
1U
Instant
Choose target non-legendary creature. The next time that at least one creature or planeswalker enters the battlefield this turn, they enter as copies of the chosen creature.

Foretell U
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>>320739704
that is not what I typed
I want good noncreature strategies
I want to play my double visions and my extra turn spells and my songs of creation and my titans nests without having to make sure my deck is 1/3rd doomblades so I dont get roguetrannied or landfall trannied or food trannied or plainstrannied and then fold to some retard who forgot to fill his deck with doomblades
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>>320738961
Tree could be a candidate since it makes colours basically irrelevant. It's "ultimate" isn't particularly strong though if you don't hop through several loops beforehand.
Everything else is kinda meh. But then again I might be too retarded to see the real broken shit.
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>>320739742
ur planeswalker is now my 1/1 token
cool I guess
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>>320738961
Vorinclex & Kaya seem to be the most potentially broken cards so far
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>>320739184
imagine keeping record in real life of which creatures got buffed and which not, sounds fun
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>>320740183
They just slap a dice on 4 over it.
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>>320740047
people are really sleeping on kaya's +1, that ability is insane and blanks spot removal and wraths (including exiling ones)
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>>320738591
>severe anxiety
>dread of success
it sucks that the more I win, the less I wanna keep playing
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>>320740183
Modern cards are designed for arenachad they don't care about tabletop cuck.
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>>320740716
speak english please
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>Playing Auras
>Sideboarding vs Uro
>Side out a copy of Glitters because I figure they won't me have a big one
>Win game 3 because I drew 2 copies of Glitters the turn after they escaped Uro
I'm conflicted, lads (the Temple should be a Fortress, I'm working on it)
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>>320740768
as a rule of thumb you shouldn't cut copies of the second best card in your deck
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>>320739742
Is it just me or this is busted? Basically super efficient (for Blue standards) removal as long as anyone has at least one shitty creature
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>>320741164
its like a really bad counterspell
for that price you could just naegaete or counterspell it
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>>320740881
i mean, glitters is probably the 4th best aura in the Uro matchup, let alone 4th best card
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>>320739742
this is neat, you can play it as a counterspell, or as a mirror image-type thing for your own dudes. also it says "at least one creature" - so if you play a spell that creates multiple creatures in one go....
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>>320741164
>as long as anyone has at least one shitty creature
yeah, that's the problem
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>>320741164
It's a counterspell that requires there to be a creature on the board and only hits creatures/planeswalkers. It does have the upside in being able to copy your own stuff, but that's usually underwhelming.
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>Red get counterspell, blue can exile
artifacts and creature, Black get two mana destroy target enchantment, green get everything.
What next? Blue discard? Green counterspell?
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>>320741730
green got the best counterspell ever printed last year
ur late buddy
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>>320741592
well there's a 5/5 that makes its own 1/1, for starters
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>>320741804
literally illegal
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>>320741730
White counterspells already exist, it's time to bring them back.
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>>320739742
Why foretell?
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>>320742401
turn it into a 1 mana counter for later
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Snow zombie
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>>320742401
For memes (combos)
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>>320742572
some gamers are gonna try this and be sad
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>>320742935
limited packfiller
black white dump your hand seems bad
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>>320742572
>self-recursion
he's gonna pay for Uro's sins
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>>320743202
Dies to comfy runestone
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>>320742935
White is saved.
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>>320742572
Seems pretty decent if we get some more playable zombies in Kaldheim.
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>>320742756
>>320742935
too fair for spirits in any format
if it had flying it would've been at least a consideration
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>>320743774
>2/2 flying with upside for 2
Broken
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>>320742935
I'm loving these "when you play your second spell" cards, seem like really fun jank
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look at this chad
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>>320743929
I am looking. What does it say?
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>>320743929
Manlet basado

>>320738591
I was the one who suggested Runestone, this pleases me
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>>320743929
>la criatura
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>>320744071
BERSERKER eNANO!
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>stopped doing my dailies playing ranked
>instead play my own decks in the play queue
>can just concede to annoying decks

This is so freeing. Why did I ever bother with ranked in this RNG game? I'm actually having fun instead of raging.
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So for draft signposts we have
WU foretell
WR equipment
WB cast two spells
WG ??? probably tokens
UR ??? probably instants/sorceries
UB snow/graveyard shit
UG snow/tribal glue
BR EDH lmao
BG elves
RG ??? probably ramp

Interesting that despite all the tribal stuff in the set, only 2 or 3 really care about tribes.
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>>320744071
Haste
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>>320739742
>turns busted green cards into goblin construct tokens
thats perfect for my izzet relic robber deck
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>>320744369
Oh fug that sounds genius, I am stealing this idea
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>>320744258
I can't play unranked queue without running into starter decks, and I dont like beating noobs :(
so I brew in ranked
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>>320744263
UR is giants
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>>320744258
>can't handle frustration
>can't stay focused throughout adversity
the problem is with us, anon. not the game
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>>320744594
its not real adversity
the game is coded to make you angry
if you want to struggle through adversity then go do something worthwhile
lift weights, learn to code etc
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>>320744498
Every pair has a creature type, but like I said the signposts haven't really cared about that. UB is a zombie lord, but there's literally 2 other zombies so far, one of which is a rare and both are snow. There's also 2 other cards that make zombie tokens, one of which is a rare.
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>>320744826
Sorry, 3 other cards that make zombie tokens. Forgot the new helm from today.
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>>320742572
zombie party deck might be viable bois.
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>>320744476
put some more rares in your deck poorfag.
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is this too many fetch lands?
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>>320744263
The first spoilers made me think B/W was angel tribal. But now I'm not so sure. From what I can tell about R/G, appears to be ramp/trolls
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>>320745572
deck has 11 rares 5 mythics
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>>320744258
Okay maybe I get a little mad when I lose to a card I see the first time ever.
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>>320744258
Ever since they made it you only need a 33% winrate to get to plat, I only deal with the ranked queue until I hit it for those end-of-season packs/styles.

Makes playing unranked with whatever jank I feel like putting together all the more enjoyable after I hit that tier.
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almost got memed by that fucking moth
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>>320744826
>>320745143
Don't forget that changelings will overlap for colours and can function as relevant creature types for the draft archetypes.
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>>320738591
based comfystone
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what is a difference between changeling and shapeshifter, I wonder
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Seeing what nonland permanent on turn 1 makes you concede the game?
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>>320747461
Changelings transform involuntarily, I guess
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>>320747461
Shapeshifter is the creature type, changeling is the ability. So far only shapeshifters have gotten changeling, but not all shapeshifters are changelings.
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>>320747492
grafdigger's cage
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>>320747461
Without looking it up I think shapeshifter is the ability and changeling is the creature type. Could be the other way around or I'm completely wrong.
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>>320747492
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What's a cool card that sees no play? This feels nice against control decks.
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Speaking of draft signposts
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>>320749281
So uh that's really fucking good in limited, isn't it?
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>>320749908
I don't know, I don't play limited. Constructed chad here.
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>>320740881
the 3 best cards in the deck are:

1. Kor spirit dancer
2. dog
3. Sram
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>>320749908
Depends on the UR spells mainly. Blocking creatures becomes a bit more tricky with this on the field, but it's still possible. Chumpblocking Giants and WIzards is impossible without giving your opponent draws though. Planeswalkers are irrelevant for limited.
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Why do people play Elves? It's such a boring deck. Literally 0 decisions. Just spam creatures and pray your opponent has no board wipe.
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>>320742028
they did print strictly better healing salve in dominaria you can play it in your historic deck

>>320742572
insane for an uncommon, absolutely nuts draft card.
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>>320745764
>any amount of evolving wilds before 4x fabled passage

poor?
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>>320750425
>insane for an uncommon, absolutely nuts draft card.
no
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>>320750320
It's not just on the attack, you can block a 3/2 and trade and still get the draw.
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>>320750320
>>320750827
Also he basically makes all your red removal cantrips.
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>>320750634
I only have 2 fabled passages, never really played fetchlands before this deck
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>>320750827
>>320750978
Right, that's ridiculous
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>>320750392
>why do people like things that I don't like?
gee boss I dunno
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>>320750978
(only if they do excess damage, but yes)
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>>320751675
I'm just saying, there's a 2 mana deal 6 common in the set too.
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>>320743929
>when its been 4 seconds and you havent done anything stupid as a slayer
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>>320747492
none. although if my only unit gets thot patrolled i may leave
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>>320745764
Wait what
Did you put fetchlands in the deck just to have a chance to play cultivate?
Why not just play R/G lifelands or scrylands instead of Evolving Wilds? It enters tapped either way, might as well get life out of it.
Also 1 Forest means there's a risk of having it milled right away.
Consider just using Irencrag Feat instead of Cultivate
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>>320752693
irencrag feat can only be used once, but cultivate gets me ahead on mana for the rest of the game.
I tried using irencrag before but it usually just led to playing a card 1 turn early, since I have no 7cmc spells.
The forest can be milled but I have 2 skyclave relics which can also add a green, and get me ahead on mana for the rest of the game
Dual lands in standard aren't fetchable, and I only need one green if I have a cultivate in hand, so I used one basic and a couple fetches
I might swap out the evolving wilds for 2 life lands and another fabled though, thanks
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>banishing light
>nutetralize
>glass casket
>banishing light
>negate
>banishing light
>eslpeth conquors
Game takes 45 minutes but finally I stabilize the board and win.
Control players are the utmost extreme faggots its unbelievable.
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>>320753485
I just run a set of the R/G temples and the R/G pathways for a similar deck I have, monored aside from a few copies of klothys. Of course those are rare lands, so you might not want to make the investment.
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>>320754461
damn pathways are a good idea i didnt think of that thanks sempai
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>>320739551
more like
>creates bear
>turns it into double-bear
>every double-bear or higher mauls some innocent target
also, the bears are shapeshifting masses (which works with them being able to become double-bears i guess).
Littjara's bears are just weird.
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>>320750231
i side dog out against sacrifice
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>>320753593
>>nutetralize
what did anon mean by this
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>>320745827
hmm, this card is kinda cool
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shapeshifter decks here I come
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alright alright alright
how about
ulamog on turn 2
watch this
our deck is 48 lands
4 ornithopters
4 ulamogs
4 tibaltses
we mulligan for chandra's dad and a tibalt's trickery
turn 1 we pass
turn 2 we cast ornithopter and then counter it with tibalts trickery and then exile our deck until we find ulamog
bazinga
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>>320755806
what does that white oval at the bottom mean?
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>>320755429
having relevant stuff to play early gives me hope that angel tribal can be a thing in standard, not meta by any means, but at least something. On that note, we haven't seen a B/W saga yet like we have for more of the color pairings, have we?
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>>320755806
Sacrifice 3 shapeshifters to take over a creature? Give all shapeshifters menace? Neither of those plans sounds very menacing, anon...
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>>320756149
>hit tibalt with tibalt
oops! GG go next
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>>320756416
aha see but our deck wins on turn 2 so this game took what like 30 seconds?
and we're mulliganing for a trickery and a thoppycop so ideally there are 4 poopypenises in our deck and only 3 trickeries
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>>320756149
big boy detected
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>>320755806
RATS RATS RATS WE'RE ALL RATS
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>>320757093
CELEBRATING YET ANOTHER BIRTHDAY BASH
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>>320757093
>Maskwood nexus + loads of different lords
might be interesting
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>>320756149
This is gonna be a deck, isn't it?
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>>320757248
*concedes to a boarwipe*
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>>320757376
"Concedes to a boardwipe" is like every aggro deck desu.
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>>320757248
>don't draw nexus
>lose
>opponent destroys nexus
>lose
>opponent plays wrath
>lose
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>>320757376
>>320757486
I'm sure there are lords which punish boardwipes
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>>320757376
Oh no, my boar!
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>>320757376
>>320757486
>>320757563
Pic related comes to mind, not a lord but will work just as well as one with maskwood nexus + 3 random other creatures
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>>320757784
Uh ok
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>>320757443
no, just every deck with lords in it
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>>320757784
Or Tabby
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>>320739858
But playing with creatures is F U N !
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>>320757784
why the fuck does this even offer hexproof lmao
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>>320756153
must...resist....urge...to reply to obvious bait...
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>>320758008
>wipes only half the board
uh ok
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>>320758232
To save you from targetted exile effects like ECD for example
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>>320758232
to give creatures hexproof
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Fun ALERT!
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>>320758250
Have you never played a tribal deck before? Losing half your creatures is likely game over.
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>>320758669
spoiled a month ago and its not even unpackable
like oh boy more creature cards
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>>320758669
the Uro counter we needed
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>>320758896
>lose all but one of your shapeshifters thanks to legendary rule
Now what?
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>>320758669
Unironically might be the strongest card of the set.
Don't @ me.
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@320759382
foolish and yet brave
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@320759382
just foolish
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New Kaldheim spoilers
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>>320759904
That's racist
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>>320759904
>we wuz Vikangz n shiiiet
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>>320759904
One of the best arts I've seen. Too bad it's wasted on a fucking party card.
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WE WUZ VIKINGS N SHIET
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>>320760426
Party is really fun, but its a shame every time I play the deck, I seem to get matched with hard control and the 3 guys running shadow's verdict
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have there been any good giants spoiled?
lots of spells seem to interact differently with giants this set.
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@320759382
brave, somebody had to say it
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>>320760738
No
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>>320760738
>>320749281
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>>320761096
I don't know dude... Quakebringer seems pretty good...
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>guy has 200 card deck
>I still mill him with midnight clock and that draw discard card and sea gate restoration.
he rage quit before I can fully mill him
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>>320759904
So every spell just costs 1 less fundamentally?
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>>320761096
>>320761378
Does Quakebringers ability stack? So if the're 4 Quakebringers in your graveyard and you have a giant on the battlefield, it deals 8 damage per turn? If so, that's fucking insane.
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>>320761894
yea but graveyard hate is a common thing atm because of rogues
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>>320761894
Yes. It would also get doubled from calamity bearer.
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>>320761894
You still need to get 4 quakebringers into the grave and keep a giant on the battlefield for that
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>>320761894
What makes you think it wouldn't stack?
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>>320739742
>>320761096
Been out of the loop for a bit. What's /mtg/'s take on the Foretell mechanic in general? Isolated from any of the actually revealed cards?

I think in general it looks alright. You can "Flash" it in at instant speed so long as it's your turn. Handy against control type decks, but at the same time gives me a very Morph feel, and morph in general is seen as a "meh" mechanic. Ignoring an inaccuracies about my opinion. What's YOUR opinion on it?
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>I HOPE I CAN AFFORD THAT NEW AVATAR SOON ITS SO COOL WOW I LOVE MTG!!
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>>320762689
I had no idea reddit fags were getting free sleeves.
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>>320762426
I think its a neat mechanic, but I also I think it's gonna lead to a lot of groaning when a turn-2 foretell against control players or whatever, wondering if they've got a 2 mana counter anything up to use whenever they like. Or perhaps worse, that 1-mana exile-to-bird.

I also wonder if drannith magistrate might see some sideboard action of foretell becomes strong.
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>>320762426
It's literally Yu-Gi-Oh trap cards, and some cards like pic related make this even funnier.
>I set 1 card and end my turn
>You do X? You activated my trap card, "Saw it coming"!
Some of the cards look like they could have been good, but got downgraded because pushed cards in previous sets were too good, so they tried extra hard to not print anything TOO broken this time around.
And mostly they are very uninspired, usually just a 2 mana or 1 mana discount for foretelling, when there could have been so much more to be done with the mechanic (like the white mythic does)
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>>320762961
>>320763373
hivemind
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>>320762426
I think it's a really bland mechanic, it's just pay 2 sorcery to get a discount on a spell later.
The only exception is cards like pic related where foretelling actually changes the effect of the card, that's an interesting direction.
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When's the good white cards getting spoiled?
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>>320763625
lol
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>>320763625
A-any minute now bro...
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>>320763625
White already got Embercleave, what more do you want?
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Hearthstone does everything worse more and more players bleeding out

its glorious

mtg just need a proper Auto Battler Mode to give the killing strike to Hearthstone
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>>320763532
>>320763373
Foretell is an ability yes? And more or less it's just moving a card from hand to exile? (So ability countering it isn't even that useful). Foretell doesn't function or interact with any previous MTG mechanics does it?
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so is there a blue eyes white dragon card yet?8
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>>320763625
>White has nothing
Anon, the EDH general is over on /tg/. If you posted that there? I would be agreeing with you. This however is Standard and Historic. White's got plenty of tools to deal with a single 20-25 life pool.
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>>320763932
Pokemon has the best and cheapest online client and model (1 pack in paper=1 pack in online, and f2p is just as possible) but pokemon tcg sucks as a game especially now that everything is huge 2-3 prize pokemon
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>>320764202
Colossal Dreadmaw?
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>>320763969
No, I don't think it does interact with any other mechanics.
It does interact with some cards made deliberately to interact with it like the uncommon 1UW owl
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>>320763932
MTG is already better than Hearthstone where it matters, which is being a TCG
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>>320764340
say that in english? where's the client
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>>320764340
>(1 pack in paper=1 pack in online
Saying I can buy paper packs and get online packs? Think I might quit MTG if the game is any decent.
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>>320759904
nice try but Wizards would never print such a viscerally racist card, calling upon white people to band together into their own party
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>>320745764
Is splashing green really significantly better than playing Solemn? Cultivate is better than Solemn when looking mana costs and stuff but if it's the only green card than Solemn seems to be an ok solution to not having to splash a whole color at least.

Also could this be the long awaited home for leyline Tyrant? It seems like a giant Shatterskull targeting your own Taunter is finally the red mana sink that leyline Tyrant might allow.
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>>320764953

https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/play-online/download/

I would recommend playing only expanded because standard is cancer and made me get back into magic lol
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>>320766654
>It seems like a giant Shatterskull targeting your own Taunter is finally the red mana sink that leyline Tyrant might allow.
Have you considered just tossing the Tyrant at the opponents face?
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"Firja's Punishment"
1WWB
Enchantment - Saga
I: Create a 4/4 Angel Warrior creature token with flying and vigilance.

II: Until the end of turn, Angels you control gain "T: Destroy target creature with power less than the power of this creature."

III: Angels you control gain double strike until the end of turn.
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>>320767425
Woah
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>>320767425
HOLY BASED ANGELBROS
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>>320742572
I like this card. I hope he will probably be stronger when Innistrad comes around.
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>>320767425
ANGELBROS GET IN HERE
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>>320767425
Bruh
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You're in your local LGS, and this spell resolves and slaps your girlfriend on the ass. What do?
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>>320767425
Stop giving me mixed messages. Is B/W angel tribal, or is it 'play 2 spells a turn'? I'd prefer if it was the angel tribe, because tribes are my jam
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>>320767743
I lost my gf years ago and she's already married
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>>320767425
Embercleave for the whole board? WHITE IS SAVED
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>>320767425
jesus christ that's good
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>>320767425
thats actually a fucking insane card but then again its kinda WIN MORE. if you already have multiple 3/2's 4/3's 4/4's and somehow arent winning I dont think doing small scale pest control is gonna give you the win.

Super fucking effecient card for the cost though. 4 for a 4/4 flying is great.
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>>320767425
So this is just going to be history of benalia 2.0 right? Nobody cares about the tribal aspect because even by itself it's insane.
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>>320767797
I'd like more angel cronies for Teysa.
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>>320768332
Probably. Fits right into Yorion decks to make multiple flying 4/4s that can destroy opponent's creatures
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>>320767797
Play 2 seems more of a draft thing, all angels so far have been uncommon+ and they don't share a color with changelings to help fill slots.
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>>320767425
Yeah, it's very good. That might actually just make angel tribal playable, it's a wincon
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>>320767425
jesus that's really good in yorion decks
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>>320768085
Nah this is good, the tap ability can break board stalls and finish the other guy off.
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>>320768085
Yeah, it gives you a Serra Angel for four, and that in itself is huge
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>>320771282
the vigilance is nice with the second chapter, swing in, and then kill something before blockers are declared
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Sparky took 189 damage from Sundering Stroke

Also that new w/b angel saga solidifies my decision to play w/b angels next standard. That card is sick.
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>>320767425
meh

A 4/4 flyer for 4 is not really good anymore. Also tokens get hit by like every removal out there. But it dodges Doom Foretold and ECD so maybe that could be nice?

The 2nd chapter doesn't seem too relevant because any creature with low power like say Innkeeper has produced enough value by turn 5 already.

3rd chapter seems redundant because if you have big flyers for several turns you should have won by now.

Might become okay depending on what becomes the top deck. To me this looks like a sideboard card against midrange like if the Elf deck gets popular.
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>>320772731
Looks like she took like 80 damage from it too me, kooba
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>play temple of deceit on turn 1
>opponent immediately concedes

FOR FUCKS SAKE
IM NOT ROGUES
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>>320773714
Also dodges Apparitions
>The 2nd chapter doesn't seem too relevant because any creature with low power like say Innkeeper has produced enough value by turn 5 already.
Yeah, lets not remove this innekeeper since the opponent has already drawn a card off it, what could go wrong
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>>320773890
then take lurrus off companion
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>>320773837
Sundering Stroke dealt 63 damage, each Brash Taunter also dealt 63 more each. Target player took 189 damage from Sundering Stroke resolving.
This isn't super viable since that enchantment is just going to get blown up, but having this kind of direct damage in your back pocket for when it does assemble in christmasland is really nice. Plus the deck can win in other ways, since it's just a pile of good red cards too.
Fun stuff.
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>>320767425
oh god yorion doom foretold decks are going to be absolutely insufferable
nobody will use this in tribal angels
it will translate to

>create a 4/4 flier
>tap your 4/4 flier: destroy target creature with power 4 or less
>-gets bounced by yorion-
>creates another 4/4 flier
>tap to destroy TWO creatures with power 4 or less
>deal 16 flier damage to opponents face on top of 4 from yorion
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>>320738591
cheap daily grinder deck where
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whats the best manabase for a 5c deck?
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>>320772731
>>320774320
with 2x fiery emancipations out, a blitz of the thunder raptor x 15 on taunter will deal 1215 damage to the opponents face
you were doing small fries
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>>320774320
Sundering Strike dealt 63 damage, that much is correct. However, each of the brush taunters dealt 0 damage as the opponent was already dead before their triggers damage resolved. And if sparky had somehow survived the Sundering Stroke damage, then the Taunters still wouldn't have dealt 63 damage. I'll leave it to you to figure out why.
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>>320774690
all colorless lands and 4x chromatic orrery / 4x forsaken monument
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>>320774690
bullet right into your skull
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>>320767743
Call him a nigger
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>>320758008
I have been playing arena almost every day, sadly only reching diamond, and so i have faced and used this card hundreds of times, but honestly this is the first time i take time looking at the art and i always thought it was a vulture until now kek
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>>320774471
monored is pretty much always a thing.
I grinded to plat on the back of monoblack hateful eidolon enchantments because aggro decks seem to be pretty popular as of late. Only rares I used in that deck are a few copies of Lurrus (for removal/creature recursion), and some demonic embraces. Lurrus is kinda essential, the demonic embraces are just nice to have.
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>>320772731
to think you could have just fought bonecrusher with taunter, with only one emancipation out, and dealt 36 damage and closed out the game 4 turns ago
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As long as it's more than 20 the actual number doesn't matter
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>mission is cast blue of black spells
Guess it's time to be cancer
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>>320758669
I kind of see a combo with this
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>>320776980
doesn't give you etb
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Lets see how bad at math mount gag truly is.
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>>320777592
5 cents.
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>>320777592
x+y = 1.10
x = y+1
2y+1 = 1.10
y = 0.05
x = 1.05
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>>320776980
You'd have to do something simplier, like turning all your shapeshifters into rotting regisaurs to hit them for a ton, or something.
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>>320777592
not magic the gathering arena
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>>320776861
its possible to play dimir for quest and NOT be cancer
refer to>>320773890
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>>320777904
Yeah but I also want to get wins. I at least don't have a copy pasted rogues deck, mine's more a flash deck with slitherwisp and other non rogue cards.
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>>320767425
>Los Angeles
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>>320777592
Who cares? It cost $1.10.
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How to save white
>4WWW
>enchantment
>whenever you would gain life, instead gain 4 times as much life
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>defeated kinnan combo with pig and archons of emeria
Best feeling. This selesnya deck really goes places
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>>320779215
>more lifegain shit
that's not how you save white, white needs good tax effects back
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>cast deathbellow warcry and attack with shatterskull minotaur
>opponent who until then was a fast player, suddenly goes afk for 10 seconds
pretty sure I made someone fall out of their chair laughing
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>>320779215
how about

>White Destiny 1WW
>Legendary Enchantment - {M}
>If you would draw a card other than the first card you draw each draw step, instead you gain 4 life
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>>320779215
Okay but add Pay 20 life: - deals 20 damage to any target.
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>>320766654
maybe if I ran 25 lands but I'd rather have fewer lands, more burn spells, and the ability to ramp on turn 3 and play brash taunter on turn 4
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>>320742028
Should white bring back damage prevention?
Name it "shield"?
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>>320767425
it's a pretty fucking solid card, even just having an angel of serra out of it is nice already
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>>320777298
i was talking about turning every creature into some BBB card and then hit grey merchant, but >>320777779 is right
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>>320780051
That's too strong. How about this
>If you would draw a card, you may pay {2}. If you do not, instead gain 5 life.
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>>320781262
Do Shapeshifters copy CMC?
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>>320781825
No, but copies do.
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>>320779215
>7 drop that gets removed with 1/2cmc spells
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*Freeboots your Ugin*
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>>320782626
>Implying Ugin decks don't have a pile of removal.
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Anyone else noticed the game being destroyed by the last update? Suddenly 2 out of 3 games get buggy and glitchy, not letting me play cards and skipping turns and it's making it real hard to want to keep playing this fucking game.
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>>320744081
Something I made for /mtgag/ made it to the OP.
Its lame that this makes me this happy, but fuck it. Today went from bad to good.
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>>320779691
innistrad remastered soon
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>>320782626
I'll be taking that back thank you
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>>320782626
oh man that's terrible
you have 4x vessel / 4x heavenspeaker so you've got clerics for party
and you've got 4x village rites and recursion from deathdweller / lurrus / agadeems so having a disposable body is way better

and yet you run freebooter
not the vastly superior acquisitions expert

who runs village rites + freebooter? that's silly
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I don't play flash, mill or counterspell tribal but I have to admit mono blue devotion is a lot of fun. Bouncing permanents, flicker effects, tapping for 25 mana then 50, drawing 20 cards, it's all pretty cool. Should I get my HRT prescription right away?
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>>320782626
Oops.
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>>320780051
>gain 4 life instead of drawing a card
>dropping card advantage for 4 life
i would pay 10 life to draw a fucking single card if i need to, your card is awful, now check this card out. White can't draw so white player doesn't care but it's a hard tax to faggots.
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>>320784143
yes pls
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>>320784083
I laughed
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>>320784487
Based. Tastes like old mtg.
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>>320784364
Meme Jank blue is the only acceptable blue. I have a monoblue ominous seas deck where I just try and draw as many cards as I can and keep them from killing me before I get the kraken farm running
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>>320784083
kek
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>>320784083
saved
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>>320784998
list? I'm curious
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Guys I think I'm going to lose this game
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>90% of the set spoiled
>still no snow hate

uhhh bros?
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>>320787562
More like 2/3
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>>320777592
$13?
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>>320787043
I'm not at my home computer, so I can't just export it, but off the top my head

4x ominous sea
4x shark typhoon
4x frantic inventory
2x teferi's ageless insight
4x search for meaning
4x omen of the sea
4x stern dismissal
2x rewind
4x brazen borrower
and I think 4x opt
+islands

There's a bit of room to play around with it, you could put teferi himself in there, as well as castle vantress.
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>>320787562
I don't think there was ever snow hate. Except maybe landwalk I think.
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>>320788061
thanks I'll give it a shot
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>>320782626
Good. Take the turn 8 or later card. If you had taken my turn 2 card I'd be in trouble.
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>>320788207
I'll tell you now that it's definitely jank, but if you like drawing tons of cards, it can be a lot of fun.
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>le have into the story on turn 4 deck
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>>320787562
>every basic land you'll see for the next 2 years will be snow
th-thanks wotc...
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>>320789214
If I'm using a snow deck, sure. But I'm not ditching Bob Ross lands anytime soon.
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>>320789503
Theyre still worth having even in nonsnow decks to bluff opponents into thinking you have snow payoff stuff they'll have to deal with
Unless they print some viable hate there's really no reason to not run snow basics in every deck
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What if I told you, next historic anthology will include Eldrazi Displacer?
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>>320789832
I'd still want to stick with the bob lands but we'll see.
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>>320788708
I made it to platinum and my mastery pass is completed, I don't really care about winning right now. Gadwick seems like he'd be a good fit. Maybe Barrin or unsummon to slow down their early game, idk
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>>320790785
You could run more counterspells, neutralize would fit in well as cycling definitely counts for card draw. But I don't think you need unsummon AND stern dismissal, they're essentially the same.
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>>320739184
This + pic related can be pretty good.
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>>320791259
>This + pic related can be pretty good.
You'd need UGRR turn 4 though, which would make it hard to pull off.
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>>320787312
>he doesn't run platinum angel
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>>320776980
>I kind of see a combo with this
You want Mystical Reflection for that. Us it, summon 2 tokens w/ Gray Merchant already on the field, and each of them drains for 6 minimum. 3 tokens and all three drain for 8.
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>>320791879
Yah, but you don't need to play it on T4, just keep piling up 4 creatures like pic related, and when you have a bears and toralf, it's go time.
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>>320791173
lol somehow completely missed the fact that there was already stern dismissal in the deck. Neutralize is definitely a good idea, versatile and stuff. Gadwick might be too expensive, by the time you play him you've either already lost or you're already going off
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>>320767743
>this spell resolves
not before my copy it doesn't
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>>320779215
just remaster SOI, white saved
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>>320794049
Oh boi a white ca- Oh wait it's black
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>>320794049
What even is a white effect anymore
What does white do
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>>320784143
is Heretic Cathar the sexiest girl in mtg history? if not post a bettter one
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>>320789503
pretty sure Bob painted some snowy landscapes in his time
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New story: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/episode-2-awaken-trolls-2021-01-13
>Tibalt instigating between realms
>Kaya gets TROLLED
>Tyvar is a chad as expected
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>>320795287
no one, and I mean literally not a single soul, cares about MTG story.
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QUICK WE NEED SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MOONRUNES
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>>320795432
that's not true, women and homosexual care about the story for some reason
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>>320795432

Not OP but don't be such a pooper.
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>>320795641
{2}{W}

Legendary Creature - God

Flying, Vigilance

Snow lands that opponent controls enters the battlefield tapped.

Opponents have to pay 2 more to cast noncreature spell with 4 or more cmc.

2/3

Back side:

{3}{W}

Legendary Artifact

When source that opponent controls deals damage to you or a permanent you control, it deals minus 1 of the damage instead.

Whenever you or a permanent you control is targeted by spell or ability that opponent controls, the opponent should pay {1}. Unless, it is countered.

All we need is reddit.
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>>320795641
>>320795849
well here's your tax
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>>320795432
I wish that was true, but zoomers and plebs actually care. I miss when there were only the books but you could try to piece the story together with bits that every card had, it's so sterilized and overt nowadays, and the plots themselves are much worse...
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>>320795641
>>320795849
This is like 4 different hate abilities in one card, I guess it could be good? I don't think she'll be relevant on Arena, though.
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>>320795849
so this is white's savior for standard

its super-thalia
tapclause is irrelevant

its a 2/3 flying vigilance DOUBLE THALIA
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HOLY BASED, TAXBROS
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>>320795849
>get two copies of this
>get both sides out
>opponents removal spells now cost {3} more to cast
disgusting
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Do I think that Kaldheim looks fun?
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>>320795849
>white counter spell
w-we did it white bro..we won!
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>>320796452
I don't know, anon, do you?
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>nobody will run snow lands in non-snow decks
>nobody will splash snow in otherwise non-snow decks just for a snow card
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>>320795849
>buy Pioneer Burn last week
>this shit get printed
jesus fucking christ, imagine an UW Control deck resolving the backside on turn 4
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>>320795849
As a snow hoser this is trash but at least the design itself is good - the creature side hoses control and the artifact side hoses aggro
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>>320796452
No, you hate it.
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>>320796452
Im just looking forward to making a vorthos berserker deck and like a "God Tribal" deck.
right now the main colors I want to try is Red and Black since both Egon and Kroxa want a nice fat full graveyard and black and red both have lots of good effects that can cantrip or self-mill. then I will try a Green+White deck just because it looks cool.
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>>320797194
>the creature side hoses control and the artifact side hoses aggro
this, the card is going to be nuts in formats where Bolt isn't legal
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>>320796914
Yes?
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turn 1 tapland
turn 2 hold mana, omen of the sea, draw/scry 1
turn 3 elspeth's nightmare, kill 1
turn 4 discard 1, firja's judgment, create a serra angel
turn 5 exile bin, kill 1 with angel, yorion, draw/scry 1, create a serra angel
turn 6 kill 2 with angels, doom foretold, hold up negate / heartless act, swing for 4
turn 7 sac omen, swing for 20
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>>320797813
>magical christmas land also the opponent has no interaction

how could WoTc not balance for this....
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You know whats great
is dabbing on control with ugin, the best and most fair card in standard

>go irencrag feat -> haymaker
>opponent counters it
>opponent untaps and taps out for muh teferi
>go irencrag feat -> haymaker #2
silly bastard, its never safe to tap out as control, you don't cast 4 cmc cards until you have 7+ lands

god I love ugin
ugin is the best
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>>320784487
Swap the mana and ability cost and it's a deal
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>>320795849
neat but goddamn I hope this isn't the only snow hate we're getting
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Why isn't there an anime plane?
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>>320799068
people are theorising the next time we see kamigawa it's gonna be way more in the future of the plane and more asian cyberpunk like GITS
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>>320799068
there's going to be
stay tuned for 2022
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>>320799485
That doesn't say anything about Kamigawa in 2022.
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>>320799997
they don't plan sets farther out than that
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>>320762426
It's basically a cheaper morph but you can do it for instants and sorceries and instead of being a 2/2 on the field it stays in the exile zone until ready.
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>>320799485
>a return to Amonkhet already
why?
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>>320762426
foretell is masturbatory design
its "move cards from one arbitrary face-down zone to another arbitrary face-down zone, where they remain functionally identical except for effects which specify that zone"

morph had actual mechanical implications because it was on creatures that you could turn face-up at any time, especially after attackers/blockers are declared. Foretell has no such implications, its basically just you saying "I'm going to cast a foretell card on a later turn"
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>>320767425
>some sagas (if not every saga) is sculpted/carved instead of painted
ngl this shit is rad
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>>320799485
that got that shit wrong tho.
no God of war or squirrel creature so far. dudes full of shit. ANYONE coulda guessed that Kaldheim was gonna have Gods (No fucking shit) and snow (derrr)
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>>320801339
>no squirrel creature so far
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>>320801339
>no God of war or squirrel creature so far
But there is a squirrel anon, it's got indestructible and can't be countered.
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>>320801650
>>320801339
and who could have predicted a commander squirrel?
the earliest mention was ;
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/637765869881163776/maros-kaldheim-teaser
which is dated 12/17
that anon was 10/28
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>>320801561
oh shit. I actually fucking forgot. but then again it wouldnt be hard to guess that Ratatoskr would be involved. Im still calling BS on that post. the only post I believe is from that one tripcode which has been proven to be right 20/10 times because its an ACTUAL fucking leaker.

if the guys not full of shit though Kamigawa actually sounds cool if they do it right.
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>>320801860
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratatoskr
https://smite.fandom.com/wiki/Ratatoskr
https://godofwar.fandom.com/wiki/Ratatoskr
https://guides.gamepressure.com/assassins-creed-valhalla/guide.asp?ID=56621
He's a well known figure in Norse myth, and Maro has been known to love squirrels.
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>>320800489
I don't know why but it would make sense, they pretty much introduced Basri Ket in M21 just so we had a reason to look back to Amonkhet after the events of Hour of Devastation.
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>>320802597
what would even be the point of going back? Ahmonkhet had a full story. they got their shit wrecked but there was still hope for rebuilding as lots of great leaders emerged and Hazoret herself was still alive to guide them. One easily assumes that they make a new Ahmonkhet and live somewhat ever after.

I dont feel like theres a story to tell anymore unless you want to briefly mention the left-over insect gods getting their asses inevitably kicked by Basri and Samut
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is Ayara currently the best mommy in standard?
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>>320795641
White is saved
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>>320803174
>what would even be the point of going back?
Phyrexian invasion. The Phyrexians invade Amonkhet but things are not that easy as they find several native members of Amonkhet to be resistant and in some cases become stronger from their touch. This is represented in how Infect interacts with the whole -1/-1 counters mechanic of Amonkhet.
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>>320803486
Linden is a strong independant stepmommy who did in fact need a man
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>>320804074
I don't really pay attention to the lore, but didn't the man need her?
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>>320804485
just read up on her then and yeah, her plot would have her get a lot of shit from here if she was a male character

having to raise her husbands (brainwashed) affair kids after giving up her enchanted weapon and iirc final knighthood to revive them
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>get matched against 250 removal tribal pile
>NOT playing mill deck
>playing aggro though
>game takes like 30 turns and I finally win by hardcasting 3x flaxen intruder bear-side making 9x 2/2 tokens over the course of the game, recurring her with shepherd

well that was something
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am I being a retard or is there an issue with volcanic geyser? I have 7 mana so I click to add 5 and it says I need more? every time it seems to tell me 2r +1 +X
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>>320797019
by turn 4 with burn they should already be most of the way to fucking dead, anon.
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>>320804039
>infect on the -1/-1 plane

sounds spicy but didnt people fucking hate the -1/-1 counter spam mechanic? the only playable card from that set was Hapatra right?
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>>320805147
Are you under the effect of a cost increasing effect like the 2nd mode from Elspeth Conquers Death?
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>>320805575
It had mixed results and definitely wasn't as good as they hoped. Besides WotC would never do anything fun or interesting like I described.
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All they have to do is ban Ugin..that's it. Ban it. Then standard will be fun.
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>>320805965
And Embercleave
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>>320805748
not that I'm aware of. I've only had 2 games with it so far but both were against mono green with nothing on the board (because I burned them)
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>>320799293
It isn't even theorising, concept art got leaked.
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>>320806142
Well if you've accounted for everything on board then the only thing I can think of is that they fucked up the coding somewhere which given WotC's handling of Arena code is definitely a possibility. I mean after all the game still tells us we're waiting for {NEXT SET} in the mastery pass.
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>>320805198
not in Pioneer, we don't have Bolts/Lava Spikes, most of our damage comes from hasty Ghitu Lavarunners/Viashino Pyromancer/Prowess creatures
it's pretty easy to get someone below 10 life by turn 4, but getting those last points of damage is the always the biggest challange
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leaker here. in the DnD plane the cycle will be dragons. 1 monoC Dragon for each color.
also Tiamat vs Bruenor Battlehammer will be the duel decks. Party mechanic will make a return along with a new mechanic based around looting:for some creatures besting others in combat and graants treasure tokens. Trap tribal will also make a return on Instant and enchantment cards. some new spells and cards will interact with this EX: A goblin rogue card cant be the target of trap cards unless they pay 3 extra.
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>>320805965
heres how you fix standard

UNBAN:
>fires of invention
>cauldron familiar

BAN:
>yorion
>into the story
>embercleave
>the great henge
>heliod
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>>320807595
>Ban Heliod
>Unironically wanting any white card banned for any reason from standard
Nigger, white isn’t even 3% of the meta. What bronze craw tier did you crawl out of?
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>>320762426
it's a very boring and nuMTG take on Morph
>no longer need to worry about players feeling bad their morph creature dies before it can be flipped
>no longer need to fret over how to design non-creature permanents or even spells on Morph cards
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>>320806116
Nah Embercleave is fine. I just fucking hate having the win on board and opponent drops ugin exiling everything. I get pushed for not playing a blue deck.

>>320807595
Fires and Cauldron I have no issues with either coming back.

Why ban yorion, heliod, and henge?
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>>320789214
You'll get snow hate in core set 2023, just before snow cycles out.
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>>320806848
>but getting those last points of damage is the always the biggest challange
Don't you have Roiling Vortexes now though? Also you can catch people off now and then with Tibalt's Trickery
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>>320808041
>pushed
punished*
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>>320807595
>unban cauldron familiar

Ah yes. So we can relive the glory days of having your opponent on full control the whole game.
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>opponent assembles Nine Lives
>laugh in Ayara/Priest of the Forgotten Gods

>opponent resolves Overwhelming Splendor on 2 life
>cry in Ayara/Priest of the Forgotten Gods
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>>320808127
>Don't you have Roiling Vortexes now though?
EXACTLY!
That new card completely nullfies the on-going damage of Roiling Vortex, that's the type of thing I'm worried about
>Also you can catch people off now and then with Tibalt's Trickery
I don't think Burn is the place to be playing that card, but I'd have to try it myself before giving a final say

It doesn't feel like the end of the world since most of the cards I bought can easily be re-purposed in other formats but it still bums me out a bit.
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>>320807820
>>320808041
mono white aggro is already in a good spot
if you nerf non-white aggro by banning gendercleave and leave monowhite untouched, they'll run rampant and be oppressive
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>>320808520
You have "damage can't be prevented" effects too, though.
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>>320808520
I mean it shouldn't be too bad right? You got things you can play from the side like Smash to Smithereens and the snow Bolt plus whatever the 1RR burn spell that count be countered if you have Spell Mastery or something.
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>>320808547
I disagree. The only issue in standard currently is Ugin.
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>>320808385
What's the problem though? They always run out of time.
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>>320795641
Tax stuff is good, but tell me /mtgag/, will this be enough to stop complete global saturation of snow basics for the next 2 rotations?
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>>320809208
yeah, I suppose Skullcrack might finally find its way onto people's maindeck, it's pretty unreliable to depend on Wild Slash's Ferocious effect in a deck full of 1/2s and 2/2s and the deck has not played Bonecrusher Giant in order to have access to Lurrus as a companion
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>>320809418
>the only issue in standard is the one reliable EIGHT MANA COST sweeper that actually kills everything {other than the great henge}
>....
>not the 10+ different decks that all vomit permanents from their library onto the battlefield by drawing 20 extra cards and making extra mana / cheating mana costs

yeah no
ugin is the safety valve and it costs so much mana its inaccessible except for dedicated ramp decks
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>>320809878
are you

FUCKING SHITTING ME

THE ONLY REASON THOSE DECKS EXIST IS SO THEY CAN FUCKING CAST UGIN YOU FUCKING KEK
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>>320809363
>You got things you can play from the side like Smash to Smithereens
genuinely forgot that was Pioneer legal, good catch
> the snow Bolt
the snow Bolt doesn't hit face though? am I missing something?
>1RR burn spell that count be countered if you have Spell Mastery or something.
3 mana to deal 4 isn't bad but the deck runs on a very low land count (19 lands), it's awkward to get the Spell Mastery clause consistently since the actually plays more creatures than burn spells
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>>320808547
>Monowhite Aggro
>run rampant and oppressive
>In the years of our cucking 2019-2021
And now the irrational terror of WHITE has infected the Reddit tard player base. And here I thought only JOTC employees were this deranged and schizo about the big white boogeyman
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>>320810025
not true at all
there are plenty of other game winning 7+ cmc spells you can ramp into in standard right now

ugin
emergent ultimatum
eerie ultimatum
genesis ultimatum
kiora bests the sea god
peer into the abyss (with insta-kill enchantment)
deathbellow war cry

all game winning ramp targets
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So what deck are you putting me in, /mtgag/? ^_^
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>>320810160
Oh you're right the snow Bolt only hits creatures or planeswalkers. I honestly thought it could hit face.
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>>320810248
take ur meddies
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>>320803486
i think there are more than a couple in standard, i mean besides Gods and PWs, you have mommys like Siona, Rhada, Nullpriest of oblivion and Indulgin patrician
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>>320810541
>deathbellow war cry

that's not in standard, that's a supplemental product card
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>>320810650
In my black deck, and that's what i call my trash can
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>>320811079
can vampires breed normally in MTG?
or can they only reproduce through converting humans?
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what the fuck is this shit
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>>320811241
>>320811079
Klothys best mommy
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>>320811254
A politics card for commander. Absolute dogshit everywhere else.
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>>320811254
either a s2p/p2e effect that got depowered way too hard when they were tinkering with balancing it or one of those cards they make deliberately bad as a joke """to teach newbies what is bad and what is good"""
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>>320811148
>that's not in standard
???
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>>320811241
>Throughout the multiverse, vampires can be created through other vampires transforming their victims, or through enchantment
Still, they have a shitton of planes so it would surprise me if in one of them they are able to multiply by shagging
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>>320810541
Without Ugin in the format, absolutely none of those would actually be good enough.
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>>320811241
>>320811587
forgot the sauce
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Vampire
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>>320811076
Stay afraid, JOTC-cuck
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>>320811587
>women can't show off a hint of cleavage in mtg art anymore
>they CAN flap their cunt at you

2021
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>>320811736
>>320811587
That makes sense. For a second I thought maybe the Ixalan Legion Of Dusk would possibly have it given their entire society seems to be vampiric and they need to get population from somewhere.

But it seems to be only the nobles, whereas the rest are humans.

Were there any clearly Legion creatures in Ixalan that were human rather than vampire? I can't recall any.
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>>320811661
>spell that literally kills your opponent from 20 life on turn 4
>not good enough
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>>320811981
seethe and cope
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>>320812014
apparently only vampires
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=type%3Acreature+color%3DW+%28set%3Arix+OR+set%3Axln%29
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can't wait to never have to choose a basic land art ever again in any format outside of Penny Dreadful
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>>320810541
>Emergent ultimatum
Man, nobody is playing that in Standard right now. Why bother seeing up Emergent "Gifts Ungiven" combinations when it's easier to just resolve Ugin.
>Eerie ultimatum
Everything you bring back will get wiped to Ugin unless it's a permanent that's cmc 8 or above like Henge. Ultimately though you'll probably just bring back an Ugin within the pile anyway on your side.
>Genesis ultimatum
Will get like the entire board wiped to Ugin, also you could also slam an ugin and wipe the board instead and you could just choose to not put your things on the board and opt to draw them into hand instead.
>Kiora best the Sea God
Just resolve Ugin and wipe the token for x = 0 then blow up the saga with a removal spell. Alternatively wipe both for x = 7 with Ugin.
>Peer into the Abyss
Alright i'll give you this one that is a genuine big spell combo finish you can do.
>Deathbellow War Cry
Nobody is playing this outside of like that one dude who's been ritualling into it just to slam Minotaurs.

Now who knows maybe Kaldheim might change a few things but as it is pretty much the best game winning spell to ramp into right now for at least 90% of scenarios is Ugin or to get Ugin on board, everything else is just a meme for fun.
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>filters your ugin
what now ramptards
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>>320813332
I've run into emergent ultimatum decks more than any card on that list save ugin

why are you acting as if eerie ultimatum is always going to face ugin? its not like ramp is 100% of the meta, you don't see ugin vs ugin THAT often

peer into the abyss and deathbellow warcry are both OHKO combos, both kill the opponent the turn they are cast
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>>320807595
Yorion only need banned in Arena, real life 80 card decks are a mess. The game just "randomly" gives them a perfect curve in 70% of the games.
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>>320795001
Depends on your tastes
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>>320795001
Hanna
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>>320813781

nooooo you can't counter a 7 mana card that no one plays but for some reason i think should still get banned NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>320814008
>I've run into emergent ultimatum decks more than any card on that list save ugin
And that changes what point of my argument about Ugin exactly? Thanks for kind of making my point about Ugin so prevalent that even you yourself have admitted to run into Ugin in such frequency? Only Emergent Ultimatum decks I ever see is in Historic and not so much Standard.
>why are you acting as if eerie ultimatum is always going to face ugin? its not like ramp is 100% of the meta, you don't see ugin vs ugin THAT often
Because if a given card is played frequently enough in the format then statistically speaking the likelihood of said card coming up in opposition to you is frequent enough to be a valid scenario. You're right that ramp isn't 100% of the meta but Ugin is in 100% of every ramp deck. Ugin vs Ugin may not come up much on the board because you're generally not going to resolve an Ugin after your opponent resolves one unless you can kill the opposing Ugin with its +2 ability.
>peer into the abyss and deathbellow warcry are both OHKO combos, both kill the opponent the turn they are cast
And I agree on that but like I said nobody as of current in Standard is playing Deathbellow Warcry, it's still far too fringe and just a meme for fun than something that is 100% reliable and the same goes for Peer though that combo is generally more reliable than Deathbellow. But ultimately the easier and more simpler solution for a ramp deck in Standard is to just resolve Ugin and wipe the board and/or start ticking up and generating loyalty.
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anyone else ever just alt f4 out of a very long match after a control player has stabilized and is starting a turn it will take them at least a minute before they give back control and find out you're afk?
I think its a good way to end a game
4 minutes from now the tranny will get his win, sure
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>>320815570
>Only Emergent Ultimatum decks I ever see is in Historic and not so much Standard.
do you NOT play standard or something
temur ramp is a considerable % of the metagame
more decks run genesis ultimatum in standard than run robber of the rich, cycling or seasoned hallowblade. Its the #5 most popular deck after rogues, food, GR adventures and yorion piles
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>>320816264
>do you NOT play standard or something
I don't know anon, do YOU not play standard or something? Because i'd like to ask you a very important question.

What part of Emergent Ultimatum is the same as Genesis Ultimatum when Emergent Ultimatum isn't in Temur colours?
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>>320812014
im like 99% sure that the vampires in Zendikar are natural born race no?
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Silence, wench!

I do not wish to be Sultai anymore.

I just want White to be playable....
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>>320813165
full art snow mountain is superior
don't @ me
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>>320819264
Fuck off with your politics.
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>>320819732
Fuck off with your faggotry
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Just crafted BO1 rogue deck. Ive become the enemy. Cant wait to play this for the next 9 months instead of the new sets.
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>>320813781
i like to play junk ramp, like instead of ugin just hard cast big shit like hornet queen, craterhoof or the akroma artifact
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>>320819732
it's not even politics to say that white fucking sucks right now. not every mention of white is about humans.
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>>320820014
I still get people going pissy on me because of >>320773890
you guys ruin it for us all
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>>320773890
>play Temple of deceit on turn 1
>not playing Rogues
>opponent concedes
Sounds like it's working perfectly, clearly you were deceiving your opponent.
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>>320820786
>white fucking sucks right now
It doesn't. The great white whine is very much chud's playing the V card.
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>coming back after 6+ months away
>game takes forever after every single match to reload the opening screen
What the fuck is this?
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?
Since when can white get good commons?
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>>320821339
This is actually pretty neat.
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>>320821339

wtf this is fucking BUSTED
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>>320820973
what if I make a deck that's just 4x temple of deceit, 4x murkwater pathway, 52x islands
with lurrus as companion

what % of games would I win in standard BO1?
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>>320821676
On the first turn? probably like 20%
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STOP PUTTING NIGGERS AND TRANIES IN MY CHILDRENS CARD GAME! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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how the fuck can I make a 28 land deck and get land screwed so fucking much
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>>320822938
>4/2
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>>320821524
>STOMP
Oh no
Anyway,
my turn 3 I cast Bonecrusher from the adventure zone
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>>320822938
gonna be a high pick in limited unless limited makes no sense
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Im plat 2 and climbing, once I get to diamond is there any way I revert back to plat? I only get 1 node for winning a game. Thinking of just loading up with jank and losing 50 straight so my hidden MMR goes to shit and I get drooling retards until mythic.
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>>320809564
We need more but one is better than none.
I'm mostly worried that this or similar effects are it because: 'land destruction bad, anyway here's some more absurdly powerful lands'.
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>>320809564
absolutely
wizards weren't exaggerating when they said it would be high profile
every white aggro deck will be running 4 copies of this
it will be as prevalent as gendercleave is now
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>>320750649
Depends on how common snow mana is in draft, but if you can easily be the guy on the table that can consistently get 3 snow mana by turn 4 if you try hard for it, then this card will indeed be a bomb in draft for its rarity. There's plenty of mill effects and you're always gonna want to recurse a 4/3 at the end of your turn.

I fucking hate the snow mechanic, though. It bothers me that they'd bring it back. It was never good.
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>>320827410
The draft queue shuffler will be rigged so if you have ANY snow lands in your deck you get them within the first 2 draws.
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>>320795641
>>320795849
YESSSSSSS, YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

People are absolutely not gonna play snow lands just for the sake of bluffing. This card is pretty decent by itself and completely rapes snowfags. The mechanic still sucks, but it desperately needed this valve to not make Standard a snowlandfest.

Reidane, God of Justice just saved Bob Ross.
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>>320828054
whats the big issue with a snowland fest?
muh cosmetics?
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>>320828105
Correct. Everyone running snow lands until they rotate out would be boring as hell.
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>>320795432
Wrong. I love it.
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>>320824342
Why? These spider reaches are usually pretty good because they have high defense. This is gonna die to like 80% of the creatures in the format.
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>>320825053
>once I get to diamond is there any way I revert back to plat?
No, you can only go down subranks (Platinum 3 to 2), not actual ranks.
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>>320827739
It really is hysterical that people defend the shuffler when, at the very least for land, it obviously is most definitely not random. Since they were printed I've run 1 copy of the color appropriate eldraine castle in every deck and i literally - like, the actual definition of the word literally - draw them every game, usually in my opening hand. Every game. Just 1 copy. But I'll frequently go hours struggling to draw 1 of 4 copies of a key card the deck needs to function. Isn't that really fucking odd? I know, "variance," but still, I have played thousands of games and I ALWAYS draw a card I statistically should only be seeing about 30% of the time?
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>>320828618
Shit like this happens all the time. The "variance" just means sometimes its rigged for you sometimes its rigged for them, its so blatantly obvious when the shuffler wants you to be the loser.
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>>320828835
>playing Rogues in the unranked queue against a monoblack with triple Revenge of the Ravens
Serves you right
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>>320825712
I love it when non-white fags try to assume what actual white players will sleeve up maindeck. You retards should stick to your rogues and gruul goldfish decks
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>>320829068
Its ranked you dumb nigger
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>>320829601
SERVES YOU RIGHT
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>>320829601
>It's ranked so it's fine if I use a tranny deck
Actually no
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>>320830354
this desu, play a deck you made yourself in rank and actually test your "skill" what kind of fucking dumb tranny only plays tier 1 bullshit copied from lists like rogues, unironically kys
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>>320829074
are you pretending that white aggro decks aren't going to run a DOUBLE THALIA
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>everyone loves new phyrexis
>everyone can't wait for praetors to return
>praetor returns
>gets "nuffin personel kid" by strong black independent woman who needs no man
I unironically cant wait to see how wotc will butcher rest of lore.
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>>320795849
Seems good. You can even get her off CoCo
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What do you guys think about this mono white aggro deck? Skyscanners are in place of the new white angel god.
Great curve uh?
Should I put a couple of sigrid too?
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>>320822376
13+
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>>320832471
its an okay list but I think you're too heavy on threat count and too low on interaction, even mono white can't afford to rely entirely on 4x apparition to deal with roadblocks
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>>320832471
deck looks great, nice list bro
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>>320832471
Forgot pic, fuck me.
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>>320811079
God I want her to suck the blood out of my pp
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>>320832284
iirc he isnt killed in this card, its supposed to show their first interaction where they fight and then he bails when MTG Odyn appears to fuck him up
she'll probably get him in the end though
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>t2 3bte into pyromancer
MtG is skillful game btw
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>coco into Hushbringer and Tocatli Honour Guard
>untap and Kroxa

skill game, yup
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>>320832683
Probably running too many 3 drops there, I'd put a set of seasoned hallowblades in, taking out 2 lands and 2 3 drops. No clue which ones though
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If you've got me dead on board, I'mma give you a minute to cast spells and/or swing if you've got quests.

But if you fuck about and make me wait and say "thinking" like you need to make a fucking decision, I'm just gonna concede.
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>>320833784
>losing to 4c meme coco deck
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>>320834383
when Muxus gets fucked, Muxus gets fucked.
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Hey guys
I heard everyone just LOVES ramp and control decks that drag the game out and then bring out the 7+ cmc haymakers like ugin
so we printed you a land that reanimates a creature at instant speed once you hit 7 lands
oh and it mills 4 cards first just in case you need that extra gas
:^)

why yes that's your win condition with no investment beyond "your island etbt", and it can't even be countered and they can't respond to your reanimated threat with sorcery speed removal
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>>320832886
>Using "deck tracker" spyware
Cringe kys dumb faggot
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>>320835452
>>320835234
>>320828540
Are you bored or something anon ?
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I draw three cards a turn, how could I lose?
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>>320835587
Well son, it looks like you got tranny'd.
I used to ran a deck with a similar idea, went golgari and used reggie and outriders to make use of excess lands.
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>>320835452
doesn't seem that good to be honest
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>>320806906
I believe it, even though you're not the regular guy
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Leaker here, the sets next year are gonna be
>Wildfire Endeavour
>War Under Zendikar
>Kings of Zendikar (KZNG)
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>>320837827
uh, actually, it's Kings of New Zendikar, it features Nissa's brother Nigga killing all the kor and turning Zendikar into a super advanced plane
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Leaker here, the next new plane they reveal will be called Logbet and it will be based on Sweden. Niko will go there and discover millions of people of his kind, but the plane will get raided by a new race of being called Musfolk, who are kind of like Goblins but with an affinity for explosives
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>>320835587
didnt spend enough to unlock premium shuffler
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>>320838114
>raided
*enriched, it's even a keyword in the set
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>can finally do traditional historic events
>the winrate is good
fuck it feels good to actually make gold
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>>320837950
Nigga, Who Steals The World?
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>>320822376
play pokemon, anon
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>>320835452
Barring no other non-land mana sources aside, you would need to tap like 7 lands to activate the ability dude. Also Field of Ruin is still legal so don't stress dude.
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>>320803174
reminder that the few trannies that play Mythgard unironically seethe at Grease Monkey's art
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>>320835452
Full translation anybody?
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Can't wait to run this with ToTP and a bunch of 1-drops.
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>>320839431
3UBB, T, sacrifice: Mill four cards, then return a creature card from your graveyard to battlefield tapped.

Also the land enters play tapped.
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>>320839070
pokemon tcg online is unironicly a better experience than mtga
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>>320839593
Thank you. The fuck is that other anon complaining about?
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>>320840147
You have to remember anon that mental illness is a disease and a sickness.
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>>320840147
>control gets to play lands that win the game on their own
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how does Protection work with trample?

e.g. say somebody attacks with a 6/6 green trampler and i block and with a 1/1 that has protection from Green, how much life do I lose? since the 1/1 can't be damaged, do I take all 6?
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Angels/Clerics is looking interesting. Just a 4 mana 4/4 with flying and vigilance on its own is above curve, but that step 2 and 3 are pretty sexy too...
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>>320840051
i dunno, anon. i tried it last night, and it seems p2w as fuck. i'm not giving them money (or wizards)
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>>320840679
5
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Surtland Frozenflame

Surtland Frozenflame enters the battlefield tapped.

T: Add R

2UUR, T, sacrifice Surtland Frozenflame: Scry 2, then Surtland Frozenflame deals 2 damage to each creature. Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery.
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>>320839458
Not how it works. You need to have them enter at the same time
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>>320840683
best card spoiled so far imo
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>>320840683
nobody will use this in angels/clerics
they will use it as a 4-of in yorion piles next to ECD, elspeth's nightmare, etc
its like flametongue kavu on crack, you flicker this once and you kill 3 creatures and get 16 power of flying vigilance creatures
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Just reveal rare UW, UB and uncommon UW, WB saga already. Fate of Esper Yorion deck depends on these card.
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>keep 4 lander
>draw 10 lands in a row

>keep 2 lander
>draw 8 nonlands in a row

wow nice very fun
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"I think we somehow got turned around" >>> "Oops"

every time
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>>320795001
too white.
nissa of shadowed boughs is cuter
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>opponent is actually playing a cool and interesting deck that you don't see often
>too tilted to appreciate it

i'm sorry to the guy with the abzan yorion deck that i didn't give props to. it was a fun concept
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what if we just vomited creatures and drew cards and made land drops until we hit the bottom of the deck
would that be something to play
what are u goofs playing while waiting for kaldhem
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>>320841206
Why would they not use it in Angel tribal decks? It's a reasonably strong card within the curve
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>>320840683
holy shit this is a dance of the manse target if there ever was one
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>>320841895
Because building a deck around a good card is shit compared to building a deck around multiple good cards
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>>320796452
too many white people in it
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Ice-hide Troll
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Snow Creature - Troll Warrior
[Snow][Snow] : Ice-hide Troll gets +2/+0 and gains indestructible until end of turn and becomes tapped.
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>>320842510
so how do you remove this 4/3 indestructible in limited
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>>320841368
elves are not cute.
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Taunt the Trolls
3R
Instant
Taunt the Trolls deals 3 damage to any target. If a creature is dealt damage this way, it gets +5/+0 until the end of turn.
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>>320842250
lost on turn 5 to mill
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>>320842250
snibbedy snab :-DDD

>>320842609
you fly over it since blue got a 3/3 flier that they can play on turn 3 with 1 mana open
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Draugr Mindthief
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Creature - Zombie Rogue
When Draugr Mindthief enters the battlefield, look at the top card of target player's library. You may put that card into its owner's graveyard.
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>>320842657
interesting I guess
its a shitty removal spell but one thats probably playable in limited but its also a pump spell
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>Baffling Ends your Kroxa and attacks for lethal
nothing personnel, kid
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Jarl of the Abandoned
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Creature - Zombie Cleric
Flash

When Jarl of the Abandoned enters the battlefield, destroy target creature or planeswalker that was dealt damage this turn.

Foretell [1][B]
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>>320842890
>attacking me with rotated cards
uh okay I counter with force of will exiling a leviathan
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>>320842657
HOLYBASED DINOBROS
ENRAGE IS BACK
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wheres the wrath of god this set
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>>320842586
>snow snow
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>>320843075
right here homie

it's red though hope you dont mind
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>>320842942
I would like to rotate her, if you know what I mean
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>>320843075
There's a 5cmc 4 damage red sweeper and a 6cmc black sweeper that has a modal that targets PW instead of creatures and allows you to bring stuff back from your graveyard if you use snow mana for it
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Why do I hate this card so much?
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>>320841630
>tilted over magic
lol, you must have a sad life
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>>320843842
Are you playing a burn deck in historic?
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>>320843842
only played by slow players
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>>320841334
>mulligan 2 lander
>get another 2 lander
>draw 4 nonlands in a row
>I'm on a 28 land deck thanks to MFDC
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>>320841895
because angel tribal will be a dumb and terrible jank deck like cleric tribal is right now, whereas yorion piles will be S-tier taking up 40%+ of the metagame.
in an angel tribal deck its just another big dumb curve topping threat
in yorion its a disgusting amount of removal and game ending threat
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>>320842510
>>320842586
what do you mean 4/3
this could easily be a 6/3 indestructible on turn 4 with enough snow drafted
then maybe scale up to 8/3 lategame
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>>320844198
It doesn't matter if angel tribal will be a dumb and terrible jank deck, i'm asking why they would NOT run the card in those decks. That's like having a Cleric deck and NOT running Orah. I really see no reason why an Angel deck won't run that saga.
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>>320844306
you have to pick your snow lands
probably wont have that many
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>>320843842
because its a card that fails and does nothing when opponents are doing unfair things, but when you're doing fair things, its an oppressive piece of shit that vomits absurd amounts of power onto a board and makes combat math impossible to win fairly.

you have a grip of removal and sweepers? heliod is a 3 mana cost blank enchantment, might as well be darksteel relic. You are trying to run creatures of your own? wahoo enjoy the opponent farting out 8 indestructible power for 3 mana before he untaps and shits out another 5-10 power of counters per turn thanks to soul sister procs or yas queen triggers
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>>320844623
also to that point, refer to:>>320787312
that's what heliod does to a game that would otherwise be fairly even creature vs creature combat
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>>320841206
Sad but probably true, cards that are both strong and fun always end up getting trannied up by some unfair deck
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>adventures is STILL the best deck
Reminds me of that video LSV had on CFB around the time of Oko's banning where he said that Adventures would trail off due to more sets being introduced because it was a one-set mechanic. Lol, just lol.
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>auras is a bo1 deck
lads i'm having fun and making gold
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>>320845827
that's unironically a good thing, it means they slowed down the powercreep at least a little bit
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>>320846023
Don't spend too much gold anon, you gotta save it for Kaldheim
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>>320846263
>spend
anon this is how i'm making gold FOR kaldheim
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>>320846023
wheres all your kaldheim gold
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What's a good gold amount to have on release day ? I'm at 70k now.
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>>320846381
more
always more
I 100%ed rares with like 90k last time but they could always put tools to the limited shuffler and make it cost more
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>>320846350
working on it as per pic related. i started playing 3 weeks ago
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>>320846337
>1.8k
You still have a way to go, good luck
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>>320846132
Well, yes, but also shows we're over a year into sets now and they STILL can't make good adventure hate despite the constant push for exile zone to be graveyard 2.0.
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>>320846337
You still need more, best of luck though anon!
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>>320846381
I got Zendikar completed with 10k gems, I hope 33k for kaldheim will be enough
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>>320846456
>>320846759
thx but I don't draft. I'm at 97% something cards for standard. It took a year tho.
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>>320846381
70k gold is pretty good especially since you'll be gaining levels and gold/gems from mastery and also gems from drafting so you can redraft again with the gems and get a nice plethora of cards.
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>>320846759
>>320846846
oh gems, didn't read correctly.
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>>320846735
>>320846634
I had to buy packs to get WCs and finish the deck, I couldn't save gold until then.
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>>320847141
>Buying packs and risking it all in a gambit by playing Historical Event
Not what i'd do but godspeed to you anon.
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>>320847292
anon, I'm never buying another pack, probably. there's simply no other way to finish your first deck, though.

>gambit
seriously? you break even (plus ICRs) w/ a 2-2 record
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>>320847541
Yeah but if you scrub out and went 0-2 in the first event that's all your gold gone. I hope you keep winning and earning gold though.
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If white's uncommon tapland with an ability is "Gain 3 life", I swear to fucking God...
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>>320766839
tried it.

how do you actually build up a collection? i'm not buying paper packs
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>>320849038
but anon, remember - life gain is card advatange because then it takes more cards to kill you
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>>320766839
btw, i have some serious problems with it

why the fuck are there coin tosses everywhere? why can my best pokemon randomly get stuck among my prize cards?
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>>320849038
here you go
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>>320851343
Eh, not bad, although definitely not the best one
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>>320846381
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>>320832284
I dont care about phyrexians and would like for kaya to kill them all off screen.
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>>320851652
the absolute unit
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>>320851652
draftchads need not to apply
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May also serve as a cantrip and deckthinner because the only run revealed so far draws a card on ETB
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>>320851997
These Hero of Destiny memes never see play, I don't know why they keep trying them.
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>>320851997
Hey it's like that one white card except it's blue
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>>320851652
oink oink paypiggy
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>>320851997
Interesting design, fuck snow though.
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>>320851997
>UW Spirits can now play 12 1-drops
sweet
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>>320851997
>Becomes a Warrior
>Becomes an Angel
OH GEE I WONDER WHAT COLOR THIS CARD SHOULD BE HMMM
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How the fuck can my only lands be 3 out of the 4 fabled passage for 2 mulls in a row
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>>320853142
Mulligans in MTGA bother the hell out of me. In paper you put the cards on the bottom and pull the next 7 without shuffling, but in MTGA it shuffles first so you can literally get like 5 or 6 of the same cards you just had
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>>320853142
because in bo1 lands are stacked, meaning you will often get non-basic lands in opening hand
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>>320853293
>In paper you put the cards on the bottom and pull the next 7 without shuffling

lmfao just manaweave in paper you dumbass
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>>320853293
>>320853418
but why does it happen so much more often than it should on mtga, compared to paper or even mtgo
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>>320853595
I just told you why it's happening.
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>>320853293
In paper it's the same.
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>>320853293
>In paper you put the cards on the bottom and pull the next 7 without shuffling
no you fucking don't
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>>320853820
>>320853683
>>320853485
Well fug me then, I was doing it incorrectly the whole time
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Kaldheim actually does look kind of fun, but I don't think it's going to impact the current meta in any way.
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>>320853968
based and weavepilled
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>>320853293
wtf
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>>320853968
are you playing CASUAL?
because it's pretty normal in casual to have different mulligan rules.
commander decks are a pain in the ass to shuffle, so frequently groups will set up mulls that mean you only have to shuffle once.
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>>320851997
MONOBLUE PARTY BABY
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>>320854374
>because it's pretty normal in casual to have different mulligan rules.
Casual can be all kinds of fucked up. I remember a casual group that tried to convince me that blockers dealt damage equal to their toughness to the attacker, and if they had more toughness than the attacker had attack the attacker would die.

One more reason Arena>paper.
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>>320853293
even my casual 'everything goes' format friends and me realised mulligan means shuffle before re-draw how could you come to any other conclusion lol
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>>320854374
Yes, in paper I pretty much only played against my girlfriend so it didn't matter much. We'll probably continue playing that way because paper shuffling is a pain in the ass.
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>>320854568
I thought you don't shuffle to prevent what Arena is doing now - giving 5 of the same cards back to you
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>>320854584
so when you search or fetch for a card in your deck, you just look at your whole deck, take the card and keep it as it is?
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>>320855290
DUDE LE DRUMPFH XD
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>>320855032
No, that part I understood, I know searching isn't Scry 60
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>>320855290
This post is extremely low quality.
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>>320851997
Figure of Destiny except in the color that shouldn't have cards like these, can Maro at least be more subtle with his preferential treatment of Blue? Fuck's sake...
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>>320851997
That's fake, isn't it?

I'm surprised so many people are falling for it.
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>>320855807
https://twitter.com/raphlevymtg/status/1349727828531576835
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>>320851997
The last ability can be reused btw. INFINITE CARD DRAWS
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>>320856008
it's real https://twitter.com/raphlevymtg/status/1349727828531576835
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>>320856008
I stand corrected and shammed.
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"In Search of Greatness"
GG
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may cast a permanent spell from your hand with mana cost equal to 1 plus the highest converted mana cost among other permanent you control without paying the spell's mana cost. If you don't, scry 1.
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>>320854094
Hopefully this is a sign of WotC trying to lower the power level of Standard for when Eldraine-Core 2021 rotate out.
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>>320856226
what the fuck
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>>320856008
>>320856131
>some literal who on Twitter
great source
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>>320856368
That's so much worse than the Reaper.
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>>320856368
effect is midnight reaper 0.5
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>>320856226
>>320856246
I like how these are one post apart
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>>320856380
>some literal who
the absolute state of arenafags
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>>320856368
>Midnight Reaper at home
Seriously eldraine was retardedly overtuned
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what are you guys playing this weekend?
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>>320856493
Well, technically speaking Midnight Reaper should be Liliana's standard bearer, but whatever
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>>320856226
not "up to"? this will very often miss because you don't have just the right cmc permanent in hand
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>>320856674
Mostly Arena and SS13, that's all I play lately.
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>>320856226
how does green keep getting away with these?
there's henge in standard wich is a literal turn 4 permanent with 9 cmc fuck!
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>>320856679
good card, could see it getting played in standard
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>>320856874
You realize henge + this is a nonbo? You probably don't because mount gag is terrible at understanding cards
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>>320856853
This is white card advantage right? Just need to splash blue
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>>320856679
This is just better murder, and people still seem to play murder.
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>>320856508
That's nice
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>>320857032
>casts ulamog for free on turn 5
psstt...nothinge personnel kidd....
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>>320856679
if it wasn't for the horn cup, I would think this guy is in amonkhet
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>>320857145
>meme format
I sleep
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>>320857093
>>320856508
I love honest cards, too bad White seems to be the only color getting them while the others get pushed bullshit
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>>320856508
>supports warrior, party and ww
Unironically my favorite card in this entire set so far
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>>320857090
>better
it cost 1 more than murder though also a lot of things are better murder
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>>320857836
It costs 1BB without foretell, Murder also costs 1BB, anon.
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>>320815104
Everyone plays it
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>>320851997
>flying counter
Ikoria mechanics? In my Kaldheim?
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>>320858453
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>>320858297
This almost seems too strong for a common, will probably be bretty gud in limited
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>>320858634
Holy shit that's a lot of card advantages. Are you sure this is a real white card? They could have dropped the second clause and it'd still be busted.
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>>320858720
This is a bait.
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>>320858453
This ons really sucks if you don't make the token. GIant Amulent and Draugr Helmet aren't so bad on their own
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>>320858634
>2 cmc counterspell that cantrips
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>>320858634
as usual, white gets the best cards...
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>>320858634
It's literally a reprint of 2021 standard
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>>320859325
>2021 standard
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>>320859325
you mean 2019 standard
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>>320858842
2 mana 2/1 equip isnt bad. the equip 3 is a stinker thankfully the only constructed deck you'd ever run this is in is gonna have like 20 ways around that.
in Limited its okay. I dont think its an awful card. possible lategame manasink but otherwise lets you swing in nonstop
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>>320858634
here wotc

>Enchantment: 2WW
>Every time you gain 3 life first time in a turn you may draw a card. Sacrifice this card: gain 3 life and draw a card.
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>>320859381
>>320859389
I mean that they just reprinted it in the previous set
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>>320858297
Seems quite strong for limited
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>>320856226
>t3 lovestruck beast into lovestruck beast
>there is no way for you to prevent t4 henge now
>enjoy mtg
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>>320859947
>average tranny reading comprehension
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>>320859947
Why the fuck would you put that in an aggro deck?
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>>320858453
>doesnt attach for free unless you pay 7
it's trash
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>>320858453
Is a 6/5 flying vigilance even good for 7?
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>>320860059
t2>you drop this enchatment
t3>You can play [enchantment cost+1] card for free, in our case 3 CMC lovestruck beast plus another beast from your hand
>t4 -free 4 cmc card +guaranteed henge for 4 mana because LAMAO 2 beasts
Please point me where i am wrong.
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>>320860518
I'll help you out anon
>among other permanents you control
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>>320860720
Thank god for that, didnt notice "other" word
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>>320856508
I really like this card, but it is too honest. It would be so much better if it put the token into play tapped and attacking.
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>>320856226
I don't think this is as strong as fires, but holy shit will wotc ever learn about repeatable free spells?
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>>320856508
Solid aggro card.
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>>320851343
Thats...reasonably quite decent. Barring no other non-land mana sources, you tap 5 lands and go tutor up to two cards.
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>>320858453
Okay in limited. Can't see it getting played in Constructed.

>>320858634
I like the new art. Not as cool as the Village Rites reprint, but nice enough.
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Why do they say "When Draugr's Helm enters the battlefield, you may pay 2B. If you do," instead of just saying "Kicker 2B - "

They could have fit flavor text on the card if they just made it a kickable spell.
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>>320851997
>Spirit that can become a Warrior
>Warrior that can become an Angel
>Is blue and not white
Seriously what the fuck?
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Fucking Ugin. That's right I said it. I'm the only one here with the BALLS to say it.
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>>320861634
The main difference would be that kicker is on cast, not on etb. So the wording would still be weird because you'd make the token on cast and then attach it when helm etb. Also, I doubt it'd make much of a difference, but if you flicker the helm you can pay 2B again to make a token to attach.
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>>320856380
>Raphael Levy
>literal who
Are you seriously calling Raphael Levy, a dude who had never missed a pro tour until PT Ixalan and has been inducted into the Hall of Fame as some literal who?
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>>320861691
They hated him because he told them the truth
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>>320861691
Sarkhan should have left him dead to save us from his degeneracy. Tarkir would have been better off too.
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>>320861691
Please don't fuck Ugin, he just wants to tell you about ghostfire. It's his greatest creation you know?
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>>320861634
Kicker is not a mechanic in Kaldheim, and it's not evergreen, they try not to use them in these cases. The only reason pic related doesn't have Landfall is because it wasn't a set mechanic, for instance
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>>320822938
Spiderbros...we lost.
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>>320863251
Fortunately, cards like Ancient Greenwarden are worded in such a way that it doesn't matter if it doesn't have Landfall, all that matters is that a Land ETB causes something to trigger.
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>>320856226
just for fun
>t0 green leyline
>t1 forest, llanowar
>t2 forest, this
>t3 free nissa, forest, tap all, animate forest, t3 ulamog
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>>320861691
>he didnt make a big enough spiritdancer in time
ayy lmao
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>>320856246
I can't wait for September
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>>320863437
On turn 3 you only have a CMC 1 creature and CMC 2 enchantment on the board. Nissa is CMC 4.
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Iv been playing a shit load of arena after a break from MTG, recorded some matches. is this general cool with posting youtube vids or just normal discussion
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>>320863912
This is 4chan. We hate normal discussion.
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>>320861634
I really don't know why kicker isn't an evergreen mechanic by this point.

Oh wait, I do, it's because majority of mechanics are kicker modifications and they would have to actually try and innovate if kicker was evergreen.
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>>320863797
leyline
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>>320864194
haha yes hahaha oops just testing you ha
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>>320863912
you can post it if you want, people might call you a retard but mtg videos are still on-topic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OqxXlyNETk

heres the video with decklist. I have been playing only RDW since i have no more wildcards. MTGA is stingy with coins/gems compared to runeterra/gwent
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>>320864690
I know this MTGAG and all we do is post cringe here but please don't post this level of cringe.
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>>320864836
I can make more
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>>320858453
Thats the stuff
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>320864690
kys unironically
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>>320865070
why tho, you play aggro?
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>320865162
>>>/pol/
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>>320865215
I thought my meme was neutral

>>320864942
How did it get shaven?
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Do you think kaldheim will have a big impact on the historic meta? I can hardily imagine goblin aggro red changing at least.
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>>320865546
>Do you think kaldheim will have a big impact on the historic meta?
not really, the format is doomed to be Auras, Sac, Uro Piles and Goblins until some bans happen or we get more older sets
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>>320865546
Dunno if it will spawn a new archetype but the white hatebear God should see some play. Also World Tree will be played in Golos ramp decks again.
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>>320856620
midnight reaper was Guilds of Ravnica
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>>320865546
Nothing about historic is changing until Nissa or Uro get banned, or they print/rerelease better cards than them.
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>>320863582
rotation happens in summer.
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>>320866319
"The next rotation will happen on September, 2021 when the set Innistrad Werewolves is released. Throne of Eldraine, Theros: Beyond Death, Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths, and Core Set 2021 will be rotated out of Standard on the same day. "

Is September "summer" for you?
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>>320866319
Q4 is not summer, anon.
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>>320866587
It's technically summer for about 1/3 of the month.
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>>320866319
scratch that, i forgot that Adventures in the Forgotten Realms – Dungeons & Dragons is a name for Coreset and not stand alone set.
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>>320866771
Meteorologist friend puts seasons at begining of the month, so fall is Oct, Nov, Dec.
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>>320866780
https://whatsinstandard.com/
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>>320866587
>Innistrad
>more flip cards
>card effects that transform cards
I hope I get to turn my opponent's Kazandu Mammoth's into LANDS.
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Leaker here, Werewolf set is gonna include a new tribal called Wuzwolf.
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>>320867849
Maro
>"What if we released Deserts, but they were garbage instead?"
Wotc
>"GENIUS, PRINT IT"
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>>320865546
historic auras better still be good after the expansion, that's all i'm gonna fucking say
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>>320851652
hail, fellow draft chad
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>>320868017
Would you rather have more FotDs? Retard
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>>320867589
>not removing your opponent's mana by forcing his Kazandu Valley to turn into a Mammoth then casting some kind of removal on it
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>>320868017
Yeah man, we sure do need another ramunap red
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>>320867589
You can't flip modal DFCs
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I got into a Scute Swarm battle with an opponent. He mutated his with Migratory Greathorn, but I managed to mutate mine with Gem-Razer, and I managed to get a lot more Landfall triggers, and once it reached the point that I had way more tokens than he could possibly create and overcome, it was over.
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First time I managed to resolve it for X=6 and I run 4x in all my decks and I ended up using it to bully someone after getting severely landfucked, but not severely enough to lose to jank
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>>320868696
you can flicker if you played the backside, it will change to front
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>>320867849
Why is the resolution of all these spoiled cards so fucking shit. Some of the leaks had a better resolution for God's sake.
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>>320868696
Can't you not force a flip if it's a relevant target for a transform like saying a Glasspool Mimic copying a Werewolf?
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>>320868960
>baloth packleader
congratz on beating a new player
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>>320870105
>7 Mana of multiple colors to make a 4/4 with no ETB and kill a single land
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>>320870480
It's a land though
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>>320870213
New my ass, his deck was shit but he knew what he was doing better than most r*gue decks I run into.
He did manage to get to mythic with it after all
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>>320869010
Flickering is different from transforming
>711.1. A double-faced card has a Magic card face on each side rather than a Magic card face on one side and a Magic card back on the other. There are two kinds of double-faced cards. Transforming double-faced cards include abilities on one or both of their faces that allow the card to “transform” (turn over to its other face) or allow the card to enter the battlefield “transformed” (with its back face up). Modal double-faced cards have two faces that are independent from one another and can’t transform.
>Example: A player controls Blackbloom Rogue, a Human Rogue that’s the front face of a modal double-faced card. They cast Moonmist. Blackbloom Rogue doesn’t transform.

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>711.5. Only permanents represented by transforming double-faced cards can transform. (See rule 701.28, “Transform.”) If a spell or ability instructs a player to transform any permanent that isn’t represented by a transforming double-faced card, nothing happens.
>Example: A Clone enters the battlefield as a copy of Wildblood Pack (the back face of a transforming double-faced card). The Clone will be a copy of the Wildblood Pack. Because the Clone is itself not a transforming double-faced card, it can’t transform.
and from the gatherer of Glasspool Mimic
>A modal double-faced card can’t be transformed or be put onto the battlefield transformed. Ignore any instruction to transform a modal double-faced card or to put one onto the battlefield transformed.
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>>320870949
Damn well there goes my dream of turning things into LANDS.
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>>320870480
I mean, it's not that far over rate. Obviously pic related has other stuff attached to it, but for an uncommon land it's solid.
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>>320870480
At least it can be done at instant speed and can hit basics.
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>>320738591
Have we seen any actual "Rune" cards yet?
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Cards for this feel?
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>>320871889
One, it's basically blue cartouche except it can enchant permanent instead of creature.
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>>320872056
Maybe it's just me but if I were in a wheelchair my escapist fantasies would probably involve me having legs.
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>>320872368
That's because you're bigoted. The only acceptable fantasy for a wheelchair bound person is to have the entire world crippled too.
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>>320872056
>Wheelchair accessible dungeon
>In a game where you can fucking cure disease and repair limbs and RESURRECT DEAD PEOPLE
What
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>>320872056
>Wheelchair 3 mana Vehicle Artifact 3/3
>Crew 3
>Wheelchair-accessible landwalk
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>>320872056
Gotta give props to the marketing department for spinning "flat and barren terrain" as a positive feature.
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>>320871889
I really just want a want to "Concede and auto pass all triggers"

Be it for letting someone play out their deck, giving someone all their quests, or just fucking wanting to concede but see want the end of a combo looks like.
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>>320872947
Oops. Didn't mean to reply to that.
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>>320856226
Why does green AKA the ramp color get the cheap and possibly broken enchantments?
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>>320872740
>Wheelchair 3 mana Vehicle Artifact 3/3
>Crew 0,5
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why are the store sales so shitty these days?
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>>320872368
What if you're able-bodied but not comfortable with it, you cishet scum?
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>>320874929
Have you read the news at all this past year?
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>>320874929
the only good "sale" was the one off $10 once-per account thing whatever it was I forget now
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>>320875198
this thread is my only source on MTG news.
whats the reason the mtg arena daily store sales are so shitty?
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>>320856508
Soon...soon...
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>>320877095
Actually come to think it 10 sources of mana per secondary color is bad...maybe I should drop the green angle...
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The jewish pornographers have gotten to cgb
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>>320877150
please just print bolt already
I'll settle for lightning strike but please just print a bolt I am so tired of shocks
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>>320877095
you should really drop green
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>>320877095
>filename
nice
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>>320877150
wiz is finally powering down red? very good
hopefully after gendercleave rotates monoR won't be a deck anymore finally
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>>320876542
Oh, I thought you meant physical stores, never mind. Sorry.
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>>320877343
Every time I ask for this I get the following:
>gib bolt
>It's too powerful for standard! How dare you want a bolt in standard!?
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>>320872368
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>>320875029
No one is forcing you into a wheelchair. No one is forcing anyone to stay in a wheelchair. Some people want to play wheelchair bound characters. And for some reason there are people who want to prevent them from playing wheelchair bound characters.
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>>320877557
>monoR won't be a deck anymore
cope
this will never happen
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>>320877391
There aren't any other non-human low curve warriors though and Kaldheim so far only brings that spirit.
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>>320872056
God, this is like when MaRo said there's NO homophobia in the entire multiverse, despite the fact that stuff like genocide is fairly common...
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>>320877689
it looks stupid in context and ruins the immersion
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>>320877557
After 27 years of RDW ?
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>>320877828
Someone is doing something in their own game that you aren't playing ruins your immersion ?
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>>320877608
I don't even need 1 mana deal 3, I just want efficient deal 3 to anything. RDW depending on gendercleave instead of burn for the lategame feels so fucking bad, man.
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>>320878010
sounds like you're getting triggered and start using female shaming tactics, maybe 4chan is not for you
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Whats the most broken tranny control deck in standard? Midnight clock bullshit? I want to spread misery before I chop my dick off.
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>there are black valkyries
>but no male/asian valkyries
Uh sexist and racist much?
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>>320877689
You expect me to believe that in a fantasy game of D&D where debilitating injuries and crippling diseases and poisonous afflictions and even outright DEATH can be cured with a literal handwave there is someone stuck in a wheelchair. That RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD is possible but apparently curing little Timmy's legs isn't. What absolute complete nonsense, this is nothing but virtue signal pandering.
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>>320878157
That's a convoluted way of saying "yes, and I hate you for pointing it out"
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>>320877150
All the burn spells this set are trash.
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>>320879370
Again, why are you so upset about what other people are doing for fun ?
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>>320879665
Because it's virtue signaling and pandering. You're falling for WotC's MALBU STACY WITH NEW HAT marketing schemes while ignoring the fact that there's a history of racist attitudes going on at WotC behind the scenes.
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>80 card decks curves out perfectly for the 6th game in a row
just love that random variance
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>>320879858
I wish there were more constructed playable dwarves, Magda got my hopes up too early.
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>>320879845
You failed to answer my question.
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>>320879431
you realize you just put words in my mouth that I've never said to make me look like a baddie so you can feel better about yourself?
there's already ton of echo chambers to do shit like that, crawl back to twitter, tumblr or whatever and stay the fuck there
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>>320879845
So you're saying that people are allowed to play wheelchair bound characters only if they are ideologically pure ?
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>>320880040
I answered your question perfectly and if you don't realise it you're nothing but a sheep drone. It makes absolutely zero sense for a wheelchair bound character to exist in D&D, amputation, disease and death are minor annoyances at best in some cases. WotC gave you your malibu stacy with new hat and all you have to reply with is "but it's fun!" while they have systemic racism within the company.
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>>320880070
So... what, now Boros has two options for creating tokens via Boast?
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>>320880261
Nice loaded statement phrased in the form of a question. I'm saying that the whole "Hey look we're friendly to wheelchair people in D&D!" gimmick is an absolute farce and people should not fall for it. There is absolutely zero sense in this gimmick given the context of the setting it takes place in.
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>>320880409
Good in limited
Unplayable in constructed.
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>>320880261
Only vegans are allowed to be druids, doncha know.
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>>320880261
Lmao what are you Cathy Newman? Anon didn't even say anything of the sort.
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