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Comfy cockpit for comfy night flight edition

Previous mission: >>319192909

A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/


>/simg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997

>Experimental website
Cephei is a sperging retard

>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

>BMS download links
http://pastebin.com/2CDSgvZq

>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Tankfag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX

>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE

>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web

>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg


>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r
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First for inverted fingers
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post cool videos and pdfs of apaches fuckers
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include this shit too fag edition

For the discussion of all flight simulators. Flight Sim 2020, X-Plane 11, Prepar3d, etc.

>News and updates
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/blog-november-5th-2020-development-update/315859

>The Basics Tutorial Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL4q_Tbv0jM&list=PLbphwhPw2JuvwwsD-H3xoxmb4PUbCyZen

>G1000 & Autopilot Tutorials
https://youtu.be/W23VAMNP9r4
Full flight from checklist to ILS landing: https://youtu.be/hWdNPuPfH-E

>Airbus A320 Tutorials
Starting the Airbus: https://youtu.be/GFBhIhLIIF4
Full MCDU/FMS Tutorial: https://youtu.be/Ywbr_Gbpzvs
Full Auto Pilot Tutorial: https://youtu.be/y7bKqFbTPKc
Full ILS Landing Tutorial: https://youtu.be/XCIJdj_inpA

>747-8 Tutorials
ILS Landing: https://youtu.be/d3aDuj-C2f0

>Cessna Citation CJ4 Tutorials
Start Up and Autopilot:https://youtu.be/4Dx94RMp-Hc
ILS Approach: https://youtu.be/bpM4gxkFlIs

>Navigation Tools & Charts
https://skyvector.com/

>Liveries and Other Mods for MSFS2020
https://www.msfsaddons.org/
https://flightsim.to/
http://www.flybywiresim.com/
https://fseconomy.net/

>Flight Stick and Yoke Options
https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015912899-Peripherals-compatibility

>Optimize Your Settings
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/how-to-alpha-graphics-settings-and-performance-guide/100734

>Comfy routes and locations
https://worldtour.flights/
https://flightloc.com
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CYRV > CZGF
CYLW > CZAM > CYYF
RJAF > RJTT
EIDW > ENSH > ENLK
EIDW > LEBL
CYYC > CYXS
KWYS > RELAE > KJAC
KDIJ > KJAC
ENSD > ENBR
LSPU > LFLJ
FYWB > FYMB > FYMS
LLIB > LLMG
PANC > PAPH
EIDL
LIRN
WX43 > WABI
SDUB
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Dangerous Runways:
VNLK - short runway and steep slope, Nepal
LFLJ - short runway and steep slope, France
TNCS - short runway, Dutch Caribbean
NZSP - South Pole Station
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Remember to watch your ADI https://streamable.com/hwnapg
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>>320442640
let me post this again:

apache is based & redpilled

>original ah-64a was already baller as fuck and pushed in iraq's shit in desert storm
>gut the analog avionics and replace them with fully digitized systems
>basically f-15e hotas in a helicopter
>all the sensors seamlessly integrate together
>heavy emphasis on data-linking and hunter killer tactics
>longbow radar adds cutting edge EHF and signals processing tech to automatically detect and classify ground targets
>has an integrated radar interferometer that can pinpoint the exact azimuth of incoming radar emissions and automatically cue the radar to find enemy SAMs
>can indirectly volley radar hellfires and smack sovshit garbage with impunity

too bad we're not getting the ah-64e. that thing has link 16 and allows the crew to directly control UAV's and shit
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>>320442762
Also turn coordinator.
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>>320444151
does the longbow not have L16? do you know what datalink standard it uses?
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>>320444151
also reminder that, regardless of how much fancy tech you have, humans are still the weakest link. case in point saudi retards getting rekt in yemen

>>320444607
idk it has some proprietary army datalink, sort of like the a10
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>>320445151
SADL? I think L16 is supposed to have some SADL backward compatibility
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>>320442070
>>Planefag pastebin:
>http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

Link broken fag
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>>320445759
I believe those need something to bridge them; usually an AWACS
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>>320448060
Holy shit, fuck pastebin, that was a good resource for planefags.
Fuck pastebin and fuck the SMART filter.
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>/fsg/ is dead and won't ever come back to it's August glory days
>flightsimaddons.net is dead and I don't see any other source
>My autism went nuclear because of controller issues and my will to fly dropped dead

It's over, isn't it?
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>>320458037
As a new empire falls, the old shall rise again.

All hail the new glory days of /simg/.
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>>320458037
>flightsimaddons.net is dead and I don't see any other source
what was so special about that site?
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>>320458037
We are the captain now
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>>320458525
Pirated flightsim stuff
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>>320459808
ah yep, that'd do it
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>>320458037
I used to take a 3.5in floppy to school in 1996 after I'd borrowed an external CD drive from a friend so that I could install Flight Shop Pro on my MSFS 5.1 install, and then download off the school's 100Kb connection, various aircraft from FlightSim.com

There'll be better times again is all I'm saying, anon.
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>>320240896
if you can stomach flying in arma, the vietnam mod has pretty good aircraft in it.
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>playing f15 campaign
>be shitter and popping at least one gear on landing every time
>still progress to the next mission anyway
i imagine a virtual crew chief looking on in horror every time i come in for a landing
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>>320458445
If I'm to judge by your /simg/ Discord server, /simg/ should be burned alive
>>320460141
Got any alternatives?
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>>320458445
simg are actually worse than GR. at least Cap has people who read manuals teach Cap
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The fact that there's a discord server at all is a red enough flag - they are always cancerous. Simg's is full of autistic meme spouters who probably spend their entire waking days sending the same unfunny memes and saying cum over and over. And some of its most obnoxious and annoying members are fucking admins, if that wasn't enough.
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>>320464898
that's what gives the discord real soul, like the F-5 or Mig-21
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>le discord boogey men scare tactics
most of the time the cancerous ones are the people starting drama in the thread over people want to play together.

The discord was only created because simg got slow, partly because most of the people who played ops got busy with irl stuff and stopped going on the thread and were just hanging in our old teamspeak. Discord was the only choice for us keep the group alive. now we use it in place of teamspeak. The disinfo about having shitters as mods is not true most of the mods are people who've been around the longest and are the most trustworthy
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>>320465938
Oh yeah, the trust worthy mods like literal furries who are never seen playing sim games, actual retards like stimpak and harmless who are responsible for much of the shit I'm actually pointing out, and the server owner who doesn't care at all about actually moderating his server.
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>>320465938
idk the discord is shitty enough the autists fucked off to make a secret discord
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>>320466359
ok commie
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>>320466359
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Misha, Lobby Hooligans isn't any fucking better so how about you FUCK RIGHT OFF and stay in your containment discord
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>>320466359
Aka people who got sick of playing with and talking to literal children
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>>320442070
You retards still haven't updated the OP from like 2015 lol.
You had one job.
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>>320466332
As one of the mentioned in this post, I've just lost the desire to really play DCS or IL-2 for the most part, but MSFS is definitely getting me back into flying.

Anyone here got Skypark? Got it as a christmas gift and it's fairly fun so far. Gets you to fly to the really unknown areas, and makes you get creative with flightplans.
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>>320465938
Knowing discords, "longest" and "most trustworthy" means hyper sensitive trannies and fags who will kick you for the slightest provocation in between posting uwu im so gay owo shit
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>>320470087
I think only one person has ever been banned, Scream I think.
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>>320471083
scream was never banned just kicked and he never came back. Admins aren't allowed to ban just kick. The only person who has that powers is you know who.
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>>320471083
Was kicked for laughing at someones recently dead cat iirc
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>>320471083
sharkey
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>discord
No thanks I don't wanna be groomed into joining the 41%
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>>320458037
Unfortunately seems so. This is exactly what I thought would happen if the /simg/ discord trannies took over /fsg/. I guess we had a good run though.
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The gods of RNG gave me 9 and then 0 yesterday but I'm trying again today

Haven't played DCS in a long while and I'm gonna do it tonight. Rolling for which module to play
1- F-5
2- F-16
3- Mirage
4- Sabre
5- Huey
6- F-18
7- JF-17
8- F-14
9- re-roll
0- don't play DCS
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join the discord so i can change your name to cum
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>>320464150
>Got any alternatives?
Not the same guy, but yes.

You'll need a VPN to Singapore, but boerse.to has stuff, but right now, rutracker seems to be the 'source' for many new things. They have a thread for requests that constantly gets updated with links and such. I recommend Chrome for it, since it can auto-translate russian.
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>>320464898
cum cum for my tum tum
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>>320480980
OMEGALUL
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>planefag pastebin is dead
y'all a bunch of incompetent fucks

http://web.archive.org/web/20161114014621/http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
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>>320471083
Pretty sure Raptor is banned

>>320471616
Sharkey wasn't banned, he just up and quit
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>>320441324
Yeah, GBU's, but even that is limited to single-player if you can't find a human RIO (AFAIK there's no way to use the LANTIRN from the pilot seat with Jester alone). Other than that no Maverick, no Harpoon, no HARM, no JDAM. Your main anti-armor weapon are Rockeye dumb-bombs.
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Oh boy, here we go again.
>tfw you'll never finish a campaign, successfully or not
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>>320495823
play coop
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>>320442070
how do I stop being upset that I dont have a chopper in dcs
whats the next best chopper game that I can pirate, doesnt need to be military
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>>320444151
sounds kinda boring
dcs is easy as fuck as it is
dont need anymore computer handholding
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>>320497820
Pirate the older but cracked version of DCS from fitgirl
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>>320498105
yea but cant play online with it and its huge
might as well dl some other game
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>>320498412
Flying helicopters online is suffering. Don’t bother
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>>320499780
but I want to run logistics on hoggit
have to use the tf51
I wish mods were integrated
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Been thinking about getting back to dcs, how much is missing on the f16 now?
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>>320496315
Some day I will.

The approach was really immersive, never had this before. There was so much traffic and ATC lined everyone up. They even called out traffic which I had to acknowledge. Then after landing, since the airbase is kinda complicated (Brindisi/Casale), I had to taxi for like 10 minutes to get back to ramp, crossing the runway, waiting for landing traffic. With voice commands it's incredibly immersive, even with a rather bare-bones ATC.
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>>320515691
still plenty of A2G, radar modes, many advanced weapon modes even on weapons that are implemented on a level, etc.
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>>320515691
Too much to make the module worth any amount of money, get the F-18
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>>320466858
Thats what having two gay dad's does to a man.
The aids he was born with is rotting his brain.
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>>320518013
Already have it, guess ill focus on the hornet.
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>>320518392
Tried the JF-17?
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>>320515691
Just get the F18, it's better in every way.
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>>320515691
for a2a? its the best there is, ignore the hornetkeks
for a2g? its fine if you want mavs and gbus, but at that point just fly the a10
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>>320520169
The Viper is worthless, it can only carry 6 AMRAAMS while the Hornet can bring 10.
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>>320518463
No, it any good?
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>>320520169
I got the syria map and wanted to do sneaky merchant shenanigans on lebanese and syrian targets, does ccip work? What excactly is missing in a2g?
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>>320530507
Of course CCIP and basic stuff exist. Here is a list of unimplemented features. Some are missing submodes only, so for example even though HARM has several unimplemented features the missile still works in simple target of opportunity modes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/j67i5h/living_post_dcs_f16c_viper_unofficial_road_to/
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>>320530507
Also for a list of features that ARE implemented, Chuck's guides are usually fairly up to date.
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>>320529548
Performance isn't great and it's got short legs but it's nice to have systems and avionics that aren't standardized NATO stuff for a change. It's also the only true glass cockpit plane in the game so it's unique in that sense
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>>320458037
>flightsimaddons.net is dead
I almost exclusively use flightsim.to and highly recommend it
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>>320527168
We can't repel firepower of this fagnitude!!!
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So, which of the "upcoming" helos will be the most fun?
The stronk Hind?
The try hard Apache?
The "little Apache" OH-58?
Or the "its the Gazelle again but this time in german" Bo-105?
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>>320529548
60nm Fox 3 that actually hits
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with anti-ice and dust protection going at the same time I get this power split.
I assume it's due to the governors doing their thing
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>>320550921
I'll buy them all, but I have to say I'm looking forward to the kiowa the most. I would love to see a real ah-6 full fidelity (I have the mod).
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>>320550921
If the Apache was single seat I'd pick that in a heartbeat, but it will probably suck to play it alone.
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>>320550921
Apache will be the single most capable dcs helo. Bring a friend.
Kiowa for the solo experience, and light heloes are fucking fun to fly.
BO-105's more or less another gazelle.
Hind is just gonna be a worse Su-25, only get it if you're a hardcore slavaboo
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>>320553039
>Hind is just gonna be a worse Su-25, only get it if you're a hardcore slavaboo
it'll be the best rotary-wing gunship in the game until the apache lands in 2047. All the armament of the Mi-8, but with a CCIP sighting system for rockets and guns, plus a second crew member to help with task loading and ATGMs for killing harder targets.
plus it's aesthetic as fuck and has been used the world over don't tell me you don't wanna do Sierra Leone Hind ops
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>>320554010
I wanna do Rambo ops.
clearly that was supposed to be a Hind
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>>320550921
I'm not a chopper guy and the only upcoming module I'm really interested in is the Typhoon, although the A-7 might be cool too
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>>320550921
Are helicopters even fun when the ground troops/targets in dcs seems kinda meh
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>>320556206
yes
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>>320556206
Unlike all the fixed wing modern stuff, they're actually fun to just fly around in, ops aside.
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hokum is best dcs helo
hokum + hip + hind ops are going to be lit
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>>320554010
With range you have to adjust manually so it's not true CCIP. Notice how inaccurate the gunnery was in the Russian stream.

You're only going to be able to use its atgms against anything bigger than a humvee, anyway. Heloes doing rocket and gun runs don't live long when in range of tanks and IFVs, let alone dedicated anti air platforms.
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>>320556206
Yes they're pretty fun to just fly sround in, especially the light ones like the gazelle, that little bee can bob and weave through skyscrapers and beneath bridges.
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>half of the DCS community be like https://youtu.be/7xwWKAaiIFs?t=174
>half of the DCS community be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKAdBC7PADo
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>>320538938
Flightsim.to is awesome but unlike flightsimaddons.net it's not pirated content [/SPOILER]
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>>320442070
I'm surprised there is no T-72 Tank Command listed here.
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>>320573804
the fuck is that
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>>320573942
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1670/Iron_Warriors_T__72_Tank_Command/
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>>320573984
isn't that shit really unfinished and bad
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>>320574731
I did enjoyed and finished it back then in 2014-ish from my shitty laptop. The default control kinda clunky and needs some key remapping. The dev gone bankcrupt iirc.
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has anyone actually ever bought this
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>>320577024
Just F10 bro.
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>tfw could probably steal enough shit for a Fishbed simpit
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Do you learn anything from his dogfight videos, or is he already in another world, /simg/?
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my scaling is broken with a portrait configured second monitor.. text is fuck huge and won't got smaller when i resize windows

how do i fix this? is it yet another bug?
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>>320594207
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mechanically how do the "RPM speed" throttles reduce RPM speed and why does it increase torque?

and why it ideal to lower it in high altitudes?
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>F-16 flies so fucking well
>gains altitude like gravity doesn't exist
>outmaneuver everything
>I'll be dead before they ever finish the module
eternalsuffering.png
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>>320598726
I tried it out during the free period, the fly-by-wire makes it boring even. Regardless whether you're pulling high g-s, or at near-stall conditions, you basically just drag the flight path marker where you want, and that's it.

The Tomcat rattles like fuck and there are quite a few ways it can fuck you over.
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>>320598726
>gains altitude like gravity doesn't exist
I once did a touch and go landing, put it in a 90 deg climb full afterburner and ejected over the runway. I never saw the fucking thing again, it just fucked off to the moon
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>>320463481
"flying" in arma
no thanks, I'd take vietnam mods for Il-2 1946 over arma any day
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>>320551736
the dust especially eats a lot of power, think the anti-ice has its own engine/burner though
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>>320594207
in FSX land you can just undock and drag a window... can you try that?
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>>320458037
>using a gamepad
it never even began
4you

shame about flightsimaddons.net being down, ill just buy all the planes i want anyway

which is mooney bravo, mb 339 and bird dog
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>>320497969
It's easy because there's no environment to use the planes and helicopters in it.
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>>320598726
except it doesnt and the flightmodels is unfinished so even lame hornet can outmaneuver it
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>>320592943
Here's a little something he learned from Paula Abdul
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>>320592943
Random nationalism is probably good for views (“Israeli F-35 vs Palestinian Mig-15”)
When you’re doing a meme match up against someone in a vastly superior plane, make sure they understand that they need to make obvious mistakes like reversing across your nose and losing all their energy for no reason so that you can win and look good
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Does anyone know where I can get otherwise paid Assetto Corsa mods for free? I don't want to give my money to these paid mod jews (RaceSimStudio and SimDreamDevelopment)
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>>320607758
Or it turns out the Viper isn't as good as everyone says it is and fighting planes with fuel tanks is the only time it wins
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>>320615582
Try the racing games general over at /o/, this one is basically just planes
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>>320616250
cheers, I was looking for racing here and this is the only general which even mentioned it
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>>320577024
why would I pay money to ruin my Mi-8?
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>>320605538
That's what I was doing.. does nobody play this on dual monitors? lol
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/kvsxvs/this_saturday_16_jan_2021_community_a4ec_efm_test/
Poorfags, mark your calendars
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>>320619673
Is it going to have proper yaw motions now?
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>>320551736
damn soviets really like their revolutions, don't they?

what am I looking at here? do you mean anti-ice and dust protection on one side only?
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>>320622440
The dust protection and/or ice protection pull the power they need from one engine
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>>320619673
Yay, update soon, shame the A-7 leaves the Skyhawk in the dust once that releases, good into to Vietnam-era ground pounding tho, much more fun than the Tiger.
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>>320619673
Did a bit of reading on the A4 since I'm not familiar with the aircraft itself.
They had these visor-like thermal cockpit shields to protect the pilots when dropping nuclear bombs. Pretty neat.
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>>320635526
That is pretty neat.
Is it actually lead-lined or anything or just a cool little hood.
The Vulcan had cloth blinds to block out atomic flashes I think but that was expected to be much further away from any explosion
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>>320615582
Ask in the car section in the discord. Someone was linking some stuff the other day. Some of our members are also a part of /ovg/.
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>>320628757
>The dust protection and/or ice protection pull the power they need from one engine
they don't need any power, depending on the system, if its a turbo prop which I'm guessing it is
is just opens a separate flow to divert ice and dust (usually the same mechanism) from the turbine, and as such, it equals less air intake which means less power/hotter turbine
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when
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>>320655579
That was my shit when I was a kid.
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>>320616106
no
dcs is garbage and the FALCON is one of the most unfinished modules
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>>320635526
what good is that going to do? youre flying directly away from the blast
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>>320664870
Even the Thunderbolt II module?
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>>320665130
Maybe reflection from clouds
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>>320595369
>"RPM speed" throttles
can you explain this again? I think you're talking about the RPM control
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Who's going back to work today?
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>>320622440
>>320654060
>if its a turbo prop which I'm guessing it is
those are engine/rotor instruments for my Mi-8MTV2
each engine provides it's own source of bleed air to it's separate particle separators or anti-icing circuits.
as I understand it, they should be completely separate and independent
when I turned off both Dust and Anti-Ice they equalized and returned to normal performance.
this led me to believe there was extra demand on the RH engine which limited it's power output.

next time I'll check the generator load, maybe the right engine was handling the load for electric anti-icing as well...
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>>320669329
I think he means variable pitch propellers.
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Paris to Tenerife south in A321 NEO.
Currently flying through some thicc clouds.
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Link me the discord senpaitachi incase /simg/ dies
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>>320680406
bty7jgbA
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Time for FAA kino
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_1j-36-pq8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX66lrGqhOI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TObNtjiHTek
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQH-RyJbGuM
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>>320683290
Neat
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>>320665602
its one of the most finished dcs modules
but dcs has nothing interesting to do
and likely never will
the dynamc campaign will be a disapointment
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>>320686229
>dcs has nothing interesting to do
When will this stupid meme die?
Most of the popular modules have pretty long story campaigns that can take you a week to finish.
You have sandbox missions where you can spawn enemies to blow up.
There's multiplayer if you want to either play airquake or find a serious virtual squadron and operate.
The mission editor is easy to use and you can create whatever situation you want.
Plenty of downloadable one-off single missions.
There's Liberation and a bunch of other dynamic campaign.
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>>320686967
So nothing.
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>>320686967
didnt ask
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>>320686967
>Most of the popular modules have pretty long story campaigns that can take you a week to finish
Imagine replaying a scripted situation over and over again until you get it right.
>The mission editor is easy to use and you can create whatever situation you want.
Imagine playing missions your created yourself. Imagine not having any surprise.
>There's Liberation and a bunch of other dynamic campaign.
You have to gimp Liberation unless you're playing on a NASA computer and even then it's more about resource management.

The only somewhat usable things are sandbox missions and joining a "virtual squadron".
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>>320690118
>Imagine playing missions your created yourself. Imagine not having any surprise.
wow just like a real pilot
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>>320686967
>Most of the popular modules have pretty long story campaigns that can take you a week to finish.
Scripted campaigns are fun once and then you never play them again, unless it’s DCS then they’re never fun because the AI is so fucking bad and the maps are too small to sustain long campaigns.
>You have sandbox missions where you can spawn enemies to blow up.
Imagine treating quick missions as “content” lmao literally every sim has had that since 1990.
>There's multiplayer if you want to either play airquake or find a serious virtual squadron and operate.
Oh joy you either get to play with utter retards OR deal with autists on their discord.
>The mission editor is easy to use and you can create whatever situation you want.
Another feature that’s been standard for decades. Telling people to “make their own content” is just an excuse for continued laziness.
>Plenty of downloadable one-off single missions.
Plenty of opportunities to play shit missions and fight more bad AI. Exciting.
>There's Liberation and a bunch of other dynamic campaign.
Doesn’t fix the shit AI or tiny maps. Not good enough for a campaign.

The only content DCS is designed for is the modules themselves. It will never have good singleplayer or multiplayer content because it literally isn’t designed for it.
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>>320697046
>The only content DCS is designed for is the modules themselves.
correct
>It will never have good singleplayer or multiplayer content because it literally isn’t designed for it.
also correct
if you're not looking for cockpit autism keep moving
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>>320697335
I honestly wonder what they're hoping to achieve with MAC
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a containment game for retards like that
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they probably don't take on gas at Unalakleet, probably should have brought fuel for the return leg. I bet they still sell it and I bet it's pricey as fuck
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well that's ominous
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in the thick on final
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taken at the very moment I broke out of the cloud deck at minimums
ended up fast and landing flat
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>$11.60 per USGal 100LL
yep....fuck kek
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>>320706160
very comfy
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Hang all BMSfags
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>>320699304
That would imply MAC is going to have content.
It won’t.
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>>320708101
>he thinks only BMSfags laugh at how little content DCS has
literally every flight sim since Red Barron has more content than DCS lmao
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>>320697046
just play il-2
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>>320708851
I already do. I just like shitting on ED for fun.
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>>320690118
>>320697046
wow you guys are cancer
>dcs has no content
>look at all this content
>NOO IT DOESN'T COUNT
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>>320665130
The idea being that if the cold war went hot, there may be other bombs going off in your field of view.
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>>320697046
>maps too small
500x500km and takes a minimum of 16GB RAM to work. It's either this, or you can get half a continent with Kerbal Space Program level of detail.
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>>320710507
You gotta wonder why they even bother having a DCS general.
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>>320464737
I find it hilarious that cap is sponsored now and calls hotas issues winwing issues
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>>320719821
I was at Growling's airquake server and there was some shitflinging in chat between some GR member and someone else. What's this about GR wanting to sell lessons for money? For DCS? It's a fucking video game.
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>>320722235
Meh, I find thats how any sort of guild or community with lax invitation requirements ends up, I dont think particularly bad about GR due to that. As for paid lessons, while you can always find people willing to help you for free there's also nothing wrong with asking for money for your time. I dont really follow inter tube persona wars that close so its just noise to me. Personally I find GR sorties entertaining to watch, but they are clowns for sure.
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>>320706160
game?
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>>320694169
No, a real pilot doesn't command his enemies too.
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>>320697335
>cockpit autism
I'm looking for that and a proper pilot's experience.
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>>320708101
>he thinks falcon BMS is the only flight sim that had dynamic campaigns
>he thinks falcon 4.0 started with bms
>dcs, or "plane dress up and screenshot studio" as i call it, was babby's first flight sim and he doesn't even bother informing himself about other games
Pathetic.
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>>320718997
This is a flight sim general.
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>>320728346
unironically only place to have this is bms
dcs is a plane simulator, you control the plane, its very modeled plane
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>>320728675
>This is a flight sim general.
>simg died because it was basically only about dcs and nobody played dcs because its shit
>microsoft flight sim 2020 happens and flight sim games get a general again
>but then the hype wears off and the general dies again
>simg comes back but just like before its nothing but autists shitposting about how shit dcs is
Again, what's the point?
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>>320669861
>not allowed to work the fields
>proceeds to play farming sim on his own accord
based german
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>>320729479
shitposting keeps the thread up
untill all gacha and waifu games get pushed to their own board, so threads dont die in 10 minutes, its the only option
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>until we kill the board we need to shitpost
ebin
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>>320670307
ohhh I see, its a choppah
I can't understand much of that diagram, it would help to have the numbers titled
but generally anti-ice in turboshaft engines are inertial separators type,
like pic related and explained here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mMm88mgzNc
it literally filters out dust and ice from going into the turbine itself, hence it will lose a bit of its air intake and lose power with it, its often call "anti-ice"
I'm not aware of what the heating mechanism are there since its very specific to manufacturers, but electric is probably heating only the rotating wings, however electric load has zero impact on turbine power since it doesn't need it in any way (unless at flame out condition)
now bleed air does drain power, because it bleed for hot compressed inter-turbine stage, so it could be used for heating too, but because of its complexity I don't really see what it could be heating there, probably that knob outside the front is heating something outside the craft
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>>320671532
>>320595369
indeed it is variable pitch propeller, check second page of this manual
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/airplane_handbook/media/13_afh_ch11.pdf

what controls it is the propeller governor, which automatically adjusts due to balance of oil pressured systems
technically it doesn't increase torque, it increases load perceived on the shaft, what it does is adjust the propeller pitch to work more efficiently at given perceived airspeeds
its a lot like shifting high gear on a car, the shaft will rotate at lower rpm but you will need a higher torque to sustain speed
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>>320730231
>kill the board
if the board is all gachashit make a vg for real games.
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>flying rubber dogshit out of virtual Hong Kong
>seethe about about supersonic milchads having a jolly old time
Yep, it's civboomer time.
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>>320730674
>it would help to have the numbers titled
I did some more reading on the system and there's more diagrams.
It won't help answer my question, but it can help explain it to you better if you care
>but generally anti-ice in turboshaft engines are inertial separators type,
those are the domes (you call "knob") over the engine intakes, and referred to as "dust protection"
but the Mi-8 has a separate anti-icing system specifically for the engines

here is a view of the inertial separator, it works off bleed air supplied here >>320670307 and appears similar to the western style systems
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>>320730674
but for kommrade Mikhail that was not enough, the engine parts are also heated from the same bleed air supply that powers "dust protector" or as kapitalist pigs call "inertial separator"

you can see junction for bleed air >>320670307 and anti ice control #2 (also shows engine anti-ice switches and lights immediately to the right of the number)
#4 is the valve for 'dust protection' and switches and lights are there too.

>but electric is probably heating only the rotating wings,
yes electric heating for rotor blades, probes, tail rotor, windshields
also electric heating for battery compartment and clock mechanisms
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>>320730674
but check this out, I didn't realize this until right now. not only is there an inertial separator, not just bleed air heating of the intake duct,
the fucking dust separator dome is heated too... I guess you could compare that to heating of the inlet duct.
this heating is electrical, not bleed

so there are 3 different systems for each engine, controlled by 2 switches

>however electric load has zero impact on turbine power
sorry this just isn't true, putting an electrical load on a generator/alternator causes it to resist turning, which ultimately extracts power from the engine
electrical energy isn't free, it's extracted from the chemical energy of the fuel
... it's just that it's usually such a small demand compared to engine output that operators don't recognize it.
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>>320737286
>putting an electrical load on a generator/alternator causes it to resist turning, which ultimately extracts power from the engine
electrical energy isn't free, it's extracted from the chemical energy of the fuel
I can feel this in my car if I turn electrical shit on.
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>>320735969
>here is a view of the inertial separator
bad terminology on my part
it doesn't use intertia in the TVM engines. better just to call it "dust protection" or "particle separator"
whatever... it does the same job as IPS
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>>320710507
It would count more if the AI wasn’t trash or if you could have vaguely meaningful multiplayer sessions without having to join a simdad squadron
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>>320715575
Yeah that’s fucking pathetic for jets. Passable for props, but pathetic for jets.
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>>320749301
If you're not autistic enough for a serious sim-squadron, why the fuck are you even playing sims?
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>>320751006
Il2 career mode accomplishes this without the autistic trannies
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>>320737286
>putting an electrical load on a generator/alternator causes it to resist turning, which ultimately extracts power from the engine
>electrical energy isn't free, it's extracted from the chemical energy of the fuel
nope, using electrical stuff will put load on the generator but increase its "weight", but amperage or capacity goes down, is what happens to
>>320738325
>I can feel this in my car if I turn electrical shit on.
however, nearly all turbo shaft engines for civilian aircraft in the west, has a separate shaft that serve to rotate the accessory gear box and stuff like generator, it has its own turbine, it does cause resistance for whole engine but it tends to be constant during operation

great job on everything else though
>>320735969
as I imagined its a kind of inertial separator, a bit odd from what is standard, but besides being soviet its probably something to operate under very harsh conditions
is that spray thing out of nozzle supplied by bleed air? if so it does make sense again to induce airflow into that bell,but if they were using it there, might've used it to heat up the dome as well

>>320740616
>bad terminology on my part
not really, the inertia of the particle being sucked into the intake is to go toward the center
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>>320751271
The best part of multiplayer simming is the communication and organic cooperation, no AI will ever get even close to being as good of a wingman as a guy you've been flying with for the past few months.
And calling any and all non-4chan groups trannies and simdads only shows how damaged and socially non-functional you are.
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>>320751838
>And calling any and all non-4chan groups trannies and simdads only shows how damaged and socially non-functional you are.
its like you don't know where we are
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>>320751838
>The best part of multiplayer simming is the communication and organic cooperation, no AI will ever get even close to being as good of a wingman as a guy you've been flying with for the past few months.
I agree, which is why I have a small group of friends I play sims with. But the only way to make multiplayer DCS even remotely functional is to play with a large group.
Why bother with simdad discord drama autism when we can just play an IL-2 PWCG coop campaign with no hassle?
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>>320752841
A four ship is a minimum, but you can do a lot of fun stuff with that. I don’t understand why everyone sucks off IL-2’s campaigns when the AI is just as brain dead as DCS AI
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>>320754016
>Just as bad as DCS AI
It's not perfect but its miles better than DCS AI
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can't we just appreciate how far sims have come in the last 30 years and enjoy shit for once?
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>>320751458
>using electrical stuff
sorry, not an electrical engineer nor electrician
that's what I mean when saying "putting on a load," not just completing the circuit.
>but amperage or capacity goes down
and my uneducated hypothesis is that the right engine is being rolled back to allow it to maintain it's required electrical output without overtorque or overtemp
otherwise I don't understand why it would roll back like that

>and stuff like generator, it has its own turbine
I assume you're referring to IDG here

>it does cause resistance for whole engine but it tends to be constant during operation
yeah and I assume that if you add on a massive power consumer like electric anti-ice it would be shared by both engines, not just the right one
unless it's some redundancy design thing I'm not aware of
like how the ice detection system will only turn on the anti-ice for the right engine so both don't ingest ice at the same time
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>>320754532
I’ve never been in an IL2 dogfight with an AI that didn’t start, continue as, and end as a turn fight on the deck
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>>320755815
see >>320752158
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>>320754016
>when the AI is just as brain dead as DCS AI
Because it is better, and they keep improving it.
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Fuck DCS. I've wanted to play the Hornet for like a half a year, but something is always broken and I don't want a shitty experience. AIM-120 has been broken for months now according to bug reports. It's just so tiresome.
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>>320757993
Load up a duel with 190k series or 109g series be in just about anything, They will boom and zoom, climb like crazy, etc. It depends on the skill level you set the AI as, and what plane you're flying.
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>tfw cripple
>can't use pedals
>use TWCS throttle for helos

the paddle on my throttle is starting to act up again, and everything is out of stock atm. I wish there was a better throttle with the front paddle design
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>>320761812
Okay maybe I’ll have to give it another try. They always seem to turn fight even if they are German boom and zoom fighters vs me in a turning Russian fighter
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>>320763214
>not a twistchad
come on Wags
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>>320763214
Pedals are a meme. The twcs paddle is absolutely fine for choppers.
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>>320763214
Twist stick is unironically better than the paddle.
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>>320763214
Buy a steering wheel controller?
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>>320754016
thing is, IL-2 planes use the same flight models as the player. DCS blatantly cheats and has ufo physics for enemy planes.
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>>320763550
i could never get fluid movement with twist
>>320763479
>twcs paddle is absolutely fine for choppers.
I know, I have been using it for a few years now and have become very precise with it. I hope one day vkb/virpil copies the design and makes a better version of it
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>>320763268
None of them are really "good" but I'd probably put Il-2's above dcs. Half the time dcs ai just goes awol and doesn't even put up a fight.
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>>320763479
>Pedals are a meme. The twcs paddle is absolutely fine for choppers
Fine for what choppers exactly? Maybe KA50, but for anything else, they're 'fine' if you're a shit pilot.
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IL-2 Tank Crew is fun
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>>320757993
Was the last time you did SP in 2018?
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>>320766960
Can't imagine flying my Gazelle, with a fucking twist stick, I'd have to constantly strain my wrist while hovering or creeping along the trees. Nah dude, pedals are a must.
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>>320757164
apologies but I miswrote
>using electrical stuff will put load on the generator but increase its "weight", but amperage or capacity goes down
I meant it will change it put a load on the generator and change is amperage but NOT actually change its shaft weight (SHP shaft horse power) required to turn it
on a internal combustion engine, a change in amperage means a bit lower voltage to the sparkles, this indeed causes a bit of a chug on car power when driving, however the electrical system soon compensates for the correct voltage,

however on a turbo shaft given that there is no required feedback of the electrical system into reaction of the engine itself (assumed because after electric systems control fuel delivery) I see no reason why there would a loss of power on that engine

>I assume you're referring to IDG here
not sure what IDG, but I an actual turbine with separate shaft from the main engine compressor/turbine shaft,
this indeed drain power as any load put on the accessory box, like generator, A/C, engine oil umps, hydraulic pumps if need, but these tend to be constant during operation

and like you said it makes no sense that the electric load would be done on only one side
but engine anti-ice and bleed air DO drain quite a bit of power, but these are drained on both engines too, as it makes no sense having it active on only one engine
if you really wanna figure that out you gotta be more specific to what exactly you did and why, btw, I'm not even sure what that gauge is supposed to be, is it turbine rotation or torque?
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>>320761812
The duel quick mission in IL-2 doesn't work real well 1v1 because at the start you are right on the merge at like 200kts so neither plane has much energy, so it almost always instantly goes into a turn fight. If you set it to waves of enemies, the next guy you face will be from far away and they'll have energy to burn and do more maneuvers. Or just start a team vs team in quick mission. Most of the good stuff I've noticed from the AI in IL-2 is in the 3v3 or 4v4 (or campaign missions etc.).
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>>320729479
The fsg/MSFS 2020 thread didn't die, people kept posting. Then some retard started calling it simg again and this happened.
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>>320766960
are you trying to justify your expensive pedals anon? cause you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>320770324
>are you trying to justify your expensive pedals anon? cause you have no idea what you're talking about
Why are you poor? There's a reason rotary have pedals and not throttle flippers, and it's not because thrustmaster couldn't get the defense contract...
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>no game has ever been able to replicate this game’s carrier battles in 25 years
how
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What's a novice-friendly server that isn't total airquake?

Right now I only have Caucasus though.
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>tfw want to play with other beginners and learn together
>tfw all the servers or communities are filled with experienced players
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>>320772585
Aerobatics Online
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>>320773264
Is it PvP tho?
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>>320774853
you're a noob,
why do you care about PvP?
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>>320775327
Well, just a noob to multiplayer and fighting humans. Been simming since F-29 Retaliator.
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>remembering all the flight games you used to play as a kid
Has anyone played Fighter Bomber on the Amiga?
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>>320776038
check out Growling Sidewinder
it's where all the other noobs play PvP
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MFS interview at CES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEqXWGnGq6U
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>>320776902
That looks a lot like F-29. Interestingly they seem unrelated.
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>>320777242
Endless spamraam? Fucking sick of it already.
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>>320779553
that's what ya got
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>>320760964
play the superior tomcat or falcon
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>>320757993
The thing with DCS is it's almost the polar opposite, load up a spit vs 109 and all the fucker does is climb like a rocket, stall, dive, climb, stall dive... mostly because the DCS AI flight model cheats like a bitch, watch as the 109 goes from mysteriously having 0 energy at 130 knots to just pull straight the fuck up and climbing at 200kts. Such bullshit.
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>>320782060
Forgot to mention, that if you do end up having a 109 do anything but rocket boost to the moon, when it does decide to turn, it can magically out-rate a spitfire at 1-3,000feet easily. Always cracks me up when people talk about how accurate dcs fm is compared to il2..
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>>320760964
everyone bitching about the 120 are fucking braindead expecting really bad parameter shots to connect, or not understanding how bvr shit really works
a single missile down a single bearing from beyond knife fight ranges is going to be easy enough to defend against, especially if you're working your geometry correctly. beam it, drop altitude while dispensing chaff, you've probably defeated that missile either kinematically or by breaking lock with it and/or the supporting platform and decoying the missile onto the chaff bloom. But now you're defensive, you can't get your weapons onto the bad guy, and they can control what directions you can and can't go pretty easily.
If you absolutely need to kill someone, you have to give them an azimuth separation problem they can't solve. Make it so they can't defend against both missiles at once so one will connect. But hey, that requires coordination and teamwork, so of course nobody knows how to do that.
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>>320788516
More like the missile misses against AI that fliest straight and drops 2 chaff.
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>>320788951
post tacviews to prove it.
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hind fucking when
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>>320791384
2023+
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>your 1st gen planefu will literally never be in a flight sim
The F-86 and MiG-15 get all the love and it ain't fair, bros.
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>>320795064
isn't there a 1946 mod that lets you fly those?
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>>320801305
Maybe but what I really want is a full autism DCS module
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>>320802207
>I want my favorite plane to be released in a cucked sim
thats how I read that
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>>320788516
based retard. you know, you can actually test it for yourself to see how broken it is

>fire 120c at mig-29 from 10 miles
>support until it goes active
>mig poops a couple of chaff and hits the notch a few secs later
>missile snaps backwards at like 50g bleeding all its energy and goes after the chaff instead

the real problem is that ED are incompetent morons who keep "fixing" their shit even when it's working fine
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>>320772585
any pve server

>107th
>4ya
>faggit
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>>320763214
learn how to diy repair
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>>320809507
that's... how it should work, lol. the bandit is notching the missile's seeker. like what do you expect to happen, afaik the AMRAAM lacks any sort of CW fallback mode, and suddenly that chaff bloom is the only thing it can see.
if you want to get mondo-autism you could complain that there's no transition from high-PRF to medium-PRF mode on the AMRAAM seeker, which would make it less susceptible, but not immune, to notching.
I don't need to test any of this shit because I actually fly and shoot 120s fairly often. yeah, you're going to miss a lot of shots. it's not a guaranteed kill. you shoot and force the guy defensive and keep him from shooting at you, and then while he's defending against your missile you and your buddies get into position to put better pK shots onto him.
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>>320814120
Do you think amraams don't have any CCM? Why would a missile change course and suddenly go after the thing it's already determined to be a decoy beforehand and outside of where the target is predicted to be that also has zero speed.

What it should do is continue towards where it thinks the target is going to be and then reacquire once it gets close enough that you cannot notch it.
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>>320815167
If you're deploying CMs correctly, the chaff will till be within what the missile sees as your own radar return as you turn for the notch. Suddenly, the target disappears- or, from the missile's perspective, it moves slightly as part of the return disappears into the notch filter, and part of it remains. That chaff bloom will fade very quickly as well as its velocity zeroes out, but by that point the missile should have been handily defeated.
The AMRAAM is not this undefeatable supermissile, especially not as it stands in DCS (120cs rather than Ds with the two-way datalink and better CCM).
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>>320816874
I always wanted to learn how to play this game
back when simg was a part of wgg. post more webms.
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>>320816593
>the chaff will till be within what the missile sees as your own radar return
Yes, and it will quickly determine that it is chaff because with CCM it will know to look to the front of the target's motion instead of behind where decoys are deployed. Chaff slows down within hundreds of milliseconds or something I don't remember and is overestimated in effectiveness, especially against newer missiles.

Once it determines where the decoy is it will use the target's last movement direction as cue and it knows that the target cannot teleport backwards to where it was a few seconds ago.
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>>320817229
damn man it sure is weird that chaff is effectively useless like you say and the department of defense is still spending money to equip aircraft with chaff cartridges and developing new types of the shit.
That defense flow- turn to beam the missile while dumping CMs, flying below the horizon relative to the missile to effectively notch it, and holding that attitude for however long, is from fuckin USN and USAF publications. Hell, just going for the notch without any other countermeasures or maneuvers is a defense against longer ranged shots or probable shots that haven't gone active yet.
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>>320817162
Not that hard, SABOW is the best tanksim around IMO and it's pretty quick to learn the tactical (i.e. in the tank) controls. The difficulty is learning how to not get fucked in the ass all the time, and all the strategic layer stuff. God I wish Graviteam still made tanksims.
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>>320817486
Chaff is useful for fooling proxmity fuses and radars from long range, not an active radar seekerhead about to hit.

The correct defense is to stay outside minimum abort range, not do some last ditch maneuver that has a less than acceptable chance of failing.
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>>320817842
Notching isn't a last ditch maneuver. It's literally the defense against an incoming ARH. Last ditch maneuvers are high energy breaks. This shit is out there, publicly available, you just have to read it.
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>>320818313
That's banzai dude. Maybe you should read because that's for SRM employment like they said and not BVR. If the enemy were hot and still suspected to have ARH missiles nobody would attempt that.
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>>320818587
The radar mech conducted while in the notch or immediately after is for srm employment. The maneuver is the standard radar threat defense.
There are plenty of reasons you may have to approach MAR or otherwise be put into a situation where you can't just go cold to defeat a missile. Air combat doesn't take place in a vacuum- a HAVCAP flight isn't going to skate on a threat group that's threatening a tanker track.
A notch while dispensing CMs is the standard radar threat defense taught by the US Navy, at least as far as unclassified documents available to the public.
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>>320814120
why would the missile pull a max-g turn in the OPPOSITE direction of the target's vector? before the "fix" the missile would simply go ballistic along its last trajectory and reacquire the target once they exited the notch
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>>320819140
Then they commit early so they have fighting room. You go from skate to short skate and then only after that do you banzai if you have no choice. That's not the first thing you do because it's unreliable. There would be no point in launch and leave tactics if you can just notch every missile like DCS works.
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>all this arugments
watch satal to see how it works in DCS. they're the best players to learn from and has tacview replays to watch
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HAHA TEXT TO SPEECH SO FUNNY HAHA LE REDDIT HUMOUR HAHAHA
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>>320819407
the fuck does that have to do with anything I'm just proving you saying that going for the notch and dumping CMs is a last ditch maneuver when it's literally the first thing you do when you get spiked.
But hey, if the missile can't be notched, how is it getting targeting information? How is the seeker seeing the target? It's a pulse doppler radar, a zero-relative-speed doppler return is going to be filtered out with ground clutter. What magical system does it have to see that zero or negligible doppler return target?
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>>320819685
seethe, cope, etc
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If you want more lessons on how to shitpost like me. DM me at SuperiorBrick#1072
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>>320819847
I called it a last ditch maneuver because it's the thing you do when you're in deep shit and don't have things under control since you should never want to be within MAR with an enemy hot with an ARH missile. Fine, maybe last ditch is shit terminology to use but we're getting off topic which was that an active missile in terminal phase is not going to be susceptible to chaff.

The banzai defense is half to prevent an enemy from getting a firing solution in the first place. And why are you putting words in my mouth about how a missile can't be notched when I specifically said earlier that it would go for the last known position and try to reacquire? The thing is notching is unreliable and especially so at close range where the angular velocity can have large changes very quickly. You cannot be certain you are doing it well enough to fool a missile and if you fail then you get shot down which fucking sucks so you don't try it unless you have no choice.
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>>320820269
The screencap I posted straight up said you're expected to conduct that defense from beyond MAR, but that it HAD to be conducted at 8nm at the absolute closest. It's standard practice, if you're spiked, you defend in that specific manner, with the amount of time you spend in the notch dependent on if you remain spiked. Your missile times out, you put the threat abeam and defend, and what happens after depends on gameplan and how the threat reacts.
I need a source on a PD seeker not being susceptible to chaff. Why is it a part of the standard defensive maneuver if it doesn't work? What documentation are you basing this claim on?
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>>320820990
Man, stop focusing on that so much when I already said I was only calling it last ditch in the situation where you're defending with a notch against an active radar missile within terminal phase and tracking. These notch maneuvers are all in response to a much further out fighter and you have much longer to react. These are completely different situations and you're trying to conflate them together to win your argument.

It's not the seeker itself, it's the digital processing behind it that knows the patterns of how chaff works and can determine what is and is not a decoy.
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>>320821275
No later than range for that defense is given as 8nm. That's closer than the 10nm shot distance you described.
Where are the proofs? I see all the unsubstantiated claims, and yet I see nothing to back them up. Why would the department of defense continue to spend the money on chaff if it weren't an effective countermeasure? Why would it still be a part of the standard defensive maneuver during training?
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>>320822314
Here you go trying to conflate things once again. I said chaff is effective from long range but not short range at breaking tracking and you say that because it must be effective in some cases it's effective in all cases.

If you tried to banzai against a peer opponent that has long range active missiles while you're diddling around with sidewinders you will very likely end up in a chute even if you shoot the other guy down, that's just how it works and the tactics that have evolved to be in manuals reflect how that works because if you can just do notches reliably you would not need all this other BVR junk like a minimum abort range.
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>>320822794
The banzai defense also involves dropping chaff. Both short (sub-MAR) and indeterminate range defenses involve dumping CMs.
I'm not arguing about banzai as a gameplan, it's stupid to go for the merge if you have the ability to avoid it. I'm arguing that chaff isn't useless, like you're saying it is. My evidence is training manuals from the US military and the fact that chaff is still carried aboard combat aircraft expected to be engaging with radar-guided missiles. Back your shit up or shut up.
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>>320823090
Of course it involves dropping chaff, some chance is better than no chance at all. It's just not very effective because technology has advanced to account for it.
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>>320823271
Substantiate.
Your.
Claims.
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>>320823392
I'll try to find something, it's just stuff I've picked up along the way.
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pulse dopplar radars in DCS do not use range gates to hold lock for targets that are flying in the notch and in look down. the real question is how much chaff it takes to rng missiles away in dcs and the relevance of aspect
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>>320823652
Thank you. Because genuinely, I'd love to read some actual, substantive shit about that, rather than the usual people on the ED forums talking shit and not providing any sources.
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>>320823821
sekrit documents XD
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>>320823821
I don't suppose you'll accept a hoggit thread while I look for better stuff?
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>>320824575
Does that hoggit thread have any actual sources listed?
I've seen a lot of bullshit on hoggit.
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>>320824904
It's a book. it kind of hints at chaff being most useful for long range stuff.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/g0rcxv/
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>>320824904
Okay, there's some stuff if you search "chaff jamming recognition" on google but most of it is about AShMs.

Some sites also talk about amraam eccm with its digital processor being able to distinguish stuff but obviously none of them have any detail. I do think that unless it's some new styled special chaff like they use on ships the size of the cloud you get from a fighter is most likely going to do very little to a radar so close.
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lol just mount ten AMRAAMs on the Hornet and keep firing till you hit
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tfw have to figure out snap views for displays. The Tomcat and the Fishbed have their radar displays pretty low on the instrument panel, so it's pretty easy to lose situational awareness when I constantly have to stare down. Especially on the Tomcat, where I have to zoom in on the entire HSD/duplicate TID to properly see the symbology.

This was never an issue before, because I only flew the Flanker and Fulcrum, both have their MFD's in the upper-right, and on the Fulcrum it's just a duplicate of the HUD.
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>>320776902
Atari ST version along with Falcon 3 and Shuttle
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>"Jester, ooga!"
>Jester do booga
>Jester stupid
>me mad
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>>320859012
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>zoomzoom think he good hunter because he put ten spear on Flint-18 Rocknet
>zoomzoom should try kite of real hunter like Grugman Flint-14 Sabertooth
>like grug do
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>throw jester out of flint 14
>leave him to fight red star tribe alone
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>>320697046
I agree with every single thing you wrote, and yet you still sound like a little bitch
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>>320763214
The large rotary on the X55 throttle has pretty worked well for me on choppers
that said I still prefer pedals
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>>320817605
Wish anyone made tank Sims
Or ship Sims.
CMANO is too command-level for my autism
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>>320864335
Shill out $125 for Steel Beasts Pro PE, goyim. Also the RA mod keeps getting updated with surface ships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FdONI5ZDQk
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>>320771869
allegedly almost all of the documentation for nip planes was destroyed right after the war so there's never been a serious sim attempt
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>>320866512
Those dangerous waters graphics though.
I've been spoiled by modern stuff.
Going to wait to see if sea power or war on the sea are any good
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>fly into enemy territory
>do some acrobatics and fly really low so jester ejects inside enemy territory
>fly away
nothin personnel
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>>320873012
Based
Fuck j*ster
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>>320767337
supposedly infantry is in the works.
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God damnit Polychop, get your ass in gear and fix the multi-crew for the Gazelle already.
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>>320882083
>polychop
>fixing anything
Bad goy just buy new scout chopper
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>>320882256
I just want longer range missiles, HOT 3 suck ass, but I don't wanna fly yet another MFD-machine, I already got 2 of those.
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>>320873012
>acrobatics
if my pilot were doing handstands and shit while flying low i would eject as well
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>>320846394
pretty sure I can see a horizon line on that display
and the MiG-21 radar doesn't need some crazy zoom to see it. it doesn't have much detail.
it should be enough to program a snapview that's the equivalent of tilting your default view down towards it... you should have plenty of room to have the instruments on the screen still
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>>320882595
Fly mirage then, it's not bad
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>>320887847
The mirage scout heli is pretty good.
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>>320887847
>razscam
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Does no one play Tank Crew?
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>>320892469
we have some people in discord who do tank crew sometimes.
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>>320892469
Is it just slavshit tanks?
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>>320901349
>Is it just slavshit tanks?
Unlike DCS when IL-2 does a module they actually release content for both sides, so no.
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>>320898550
sounds like something out of arma 2
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gib discord plz
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>>320904693
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>>320904693
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For FS2020, is there a way to convert a DA40 NG livery to a TDI?
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>>320905294
WqCJUZUR
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>>320901349
There's an early production Sherman too
the gun stabilizer in it is modeled but doesn't work and that makes me so goddamn angry
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>>320864335
same. I'd bust a nut for SABOW but with an early model Abrams versus T-72s and T-80s and shit. Like SBPro exists but it kinda sucks IMO.
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wow that discord sure sucks huh
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>>320910073
It's fine if you just use it for ops. What did you not like about it specifically?
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whats simg flying tonight?
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>>320910073
>4chan discord isn't a safe space
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>>320910178
Well I joined and half the members are named "cum" including an admin, and they're actively discussing cum as I join

Doesn't look like a mature place to discuss and enjoy flight sims.
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>>320910295
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>>320904693
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>>320910568
It's not, they're discussing it because it's a running joke that newfags who join get force-renamed to 'cum' until they change it.
It's not remotely mature and imo I like that.
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>>320911035
>>320910295
Cute mod, is it a cubanace creation?
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>>320910568
Simg as a group was created to avoid tryhards who had no sense of humor. If you like tryhards with sticks jammed up their ass go join the 104th.
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>>320911235
yep, su57 mod
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>>320911305
how's that working out for y'all the only ops you play are run by tryhards
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>>320911305
True story, I'm in the 104th and the people there could not have sticks jammed up their ass any further.
TTI is a good server, though. Very friendly discord calls.
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>>320911731
Not him, there's a gulf of difference from having autism ops and having tryhard ops.
I should know, I regularly participate in both types and the autism ops are infinitely more enjoyable shittalking people over the radio than trying to be "professional" in my flying death machine simulator.
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shot down 2 ukranian mig29s, bombed a TV tower
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>>320911305
>>320910073
I actually do recommend whoever joined the server and decided it wasn't for them to try out some other DCS servers, because that seems more their type and DCS is infinitely more interesting if you have people who will nudge you to play it.
Heatblur is a good one, Razbam's server is fine but frustrating, Through the Inferno (https://discord.com/invite/BRF2pcN) is good if you want constant ops; there are always ops happening. If you want to learn something, there are several academy-oriented discords for DCS. Pantheon Academy is one.
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they should also try Hoggit's servers too, they're very inviting and try to be helpful
no I'm serious
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>>320913475
I liked Hoggit's server, I left because almost all hoggit communication is done in-game anyway, but I recommend most people at least go there once to request access to the Su-25T slot if they are going to play on Georgia at war or PG at war.
http://discord.gg/hoggit
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not interested in discord anon here. it wasn't the running jokes, you can change you're name at anytime anyways. the reason i wasn't interested is because I'm more interested in talking about planes and general aviation stuff rather than just doing ops in DCS. I'm a plane autist and going to flight school this fall.
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>>320914015
didnt ask
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>>320914015
Ah, that I understand completely.
Sadly I don't have any recommendations that aren't DCS first and foremost.
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>>320914015
didn't give an answer, it's more of for those interested in the discord and kinda trying to get an idea for it
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we still got room for you ITT anon, lots of civvies here,
besides civsimming isn't really a MP/Ops thing anyways, unless you're doing something like formation or shared cockpit.
I'm about 100% certain nobody runs a traffic pattern in MSFS11
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>>320914560
don't care upside-down CRAIG
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>>320914015
>visits a _video game_ general doesn't want to talk about video games
ok bud
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>>320914015
>visits a cum general and doesn't wanna talk about cum
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is 2021 the year of the helo
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>>320914852
I would like some practice talking to an ATC or just some general airport bullshittery. Air races, some good stories and trips to take aside from the ones posted at the start of the thread. just stuff like that. But yeah Civ Sims aren't really MP oriented
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>>320910295
Pirated Cyberturd 2077. Holy shit, the memes were all real.
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>>320910295
F-5, preparing for outer heaven
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Imagine the ops
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>>320915243
>I would like some practice talking to an ATC
I would go VATSIM or IVAO, but personally I never use human ATC
>or just some general airport bullshittery.
best way to go about that is to find official pubs and use them in flight planning and operation.
>Air races,
extremely small community, I have no interest in that shit couldn't tell you anything about it sorry
other than I have race liveries for my Mustang
>good stories and trips to take aside from the ones posted at the start of the thread.
dude you have an entire planet and 40,000+ airports
why the fuck do people think they can only fly to places that have been assigned to them?
it wish the discussion moved away from "here's where you should fly" and towards "here's how you think of ideas for flights to take"
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>>320911235
>yfw the madlad actually went and asked Sukhoi about doing a full fidelity module of it
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>>320922521
ABSOLUTE
MADLAD
I wish he would first try to get permission to do an Su-33, though
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what are some good huey/hip missions or campaigns?
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>>320924220
do the Syria CSAR mission
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>>320924220
I really wanted to enjoy the Huey "U.N. Pilot" campaign, but the AI in the game was (still is?) just too busted to make most helicopter missions worth it
Don't know what has been fixed since I last tried (nearly two years ago now) but apparently AI door gunners on the Huey are still broken/broken again?
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>>320924220
the one where you have to deliver cum
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>>320922521
yeah imagine the balls to shoot off a random email to contact@sukhoi.ru and get a canned response from an intern
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>tfw the apache is your dream module but you realize when it comes out dcs will still be garbage
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>>320911731
been working pretty well considering the group has been around for 6 years
and stayed around when the thread died.
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>>320918950
How does it work? You fire it and everyone in the air dies?
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Outer Heaven ops this weekend.
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>>320940975
add hornet slots or something
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>>320933069
this
this is the worst feel.
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>>320911774
what do you fly under
I used to be a regular in the TS until I realized how gay and unbased mav and his retarded cronies are.
Does the server even get good turnout?
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>>320942075
imagine flying into your frag and not doing guns jink around ships that have ciws

fucking simg, never change lmao
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>>320942075
Some things have to be done by real men
Like Toten.
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>>320942171
>tryhard detected
we had fun.
That is why you hear laughing.
Run you're 104th tag next time and don't try and hide it.
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>>320941028
No, you gotta work for it. Bitch.
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>>320942171
>only pulled 2.5-3g in the break
I could have pulled more in hindsight...probably would have made barely a difference
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>>320933069
>the hind is coming soon
>splash damage is inconsistent, especially with infantry
>what light vehicles
This thing is really going to drop with no appropriate targets, nothing appropriate that will shoot back and dumbass AI for everything it faces.
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>>320915030
We were a flight sim general talking about flight sims and general aviation. Then you simg queers came and started dcs posting and ruined it.
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>>320577024
Yes, never used it.
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>>320950228
infantry die pretty quick to rocket attacks, which is what you'll be using primarily in the hind I imagine. The lack of light vehicles is fucking weird though how the fuck do you have Syria as a map and not have technicals
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>>320577024
never used it in the hip but it's kinda neat in the mig-29 for jank slav bombing ops
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>2.7 patch will drop windows 7 support
rip poorfags
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>>320974231
you know you can get windows 10 for free right
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>>320974431
look i just needed to say something mildly rude to point out that there's a newsletter ok
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>>320950228
And no Fulda Gap map
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>the Air Safety Institute is using FS11 for their videos now
they're never going to fix those awful icing effects jesus christ,
and no mods for it yet?
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>>320918950
>air to air nuke rocket
the atomic age was something special. We need davy crockett arnaments for the Huey
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>>320983989
Project Orion is the dankest mad aerospace project to come out of the cold war
>guys rockets are fucking shit, how do we reach the stars?
>just detonate nukes and ride the explosions to high speeds bro
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okay the wings and fairings look pretty good here, but the windows are god awful
at least there's something redeeming about it
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I seriously hope no one here is still using outdated OSes.
>With the enormous changes in technology and the broad improvements we are planning, please be aware that Windows 7 will no longer be supported as of the release of DCS World 2.7 which we hope to be releasing in the coming months.
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>>320983575
>awful
You're spoilt.
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>>320993335
I've had both 7 and 10 in my PC for a while now but I'll probably just get rid of 7 or at least make 10 my main one when the new DCS comes out
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>>320993417
>do thing
>don't do thing correctly
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>>320987191
They just went really over the top with the windows. I've never seen that much rind on the glass in real life.
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>>320974231
>>320975003
more like rip non-botnet-fags
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>>320983575
what is awful about it? the only thing I'm aware of is it being way over the top
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>>320951497
Your shit was boring and to niche. Fsg is dead and will remain dead. Simg has stayed active for 6+ years. Old fsg was full of furrys and retarded boomers larping as glorified bus drivers
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>>320951497
Talk about your flight sims if you want then instead of bitching. I posted DCS in fsg when everyone else was posting FS2020, you can do the same here.
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>>320996872
>I've never seen that much rind on the glass in real life.
doesn't even look like rine
accumulates in all the wrong places too
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>>320997626
>what is awful about it?
incorrect shape
appears in incorrect locations
expands in incorrect directions
adheres to incorrect points

basically it builds on the aircraft like it was left in a freezer overnight,
it needs to look like you shot the front of it with a snowblower
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it looks like they modeled frost, which builds like they model to airplanes which are parked in still air on the ground,
apparently this is the only icing they thought happens to airplanes, and they thought it happens in flight too
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Am I supposed to create the pagefile on the drive that DCS is installed in? Cause I just moved it to a new 1TB SSD so I got tons of space to spare for a huge pagefile not so much in my Windows SSD since that one's only 120 gigs if that's gonna make my performance less shit
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look how ridiculous that cirrus image looks >>320987191
apparently the icing is so bad it's building on the aft edges of the side windshields, but at the same time it can't stick to the cold propeller spinner (that shit isn't heated)

the side windows are freezing up, but the front window apparently didn't catch much of the ice, despite facing nearly directly at the coming air
the engine cowling is nearly completely clear of ice, yet it's so bad on the wings it's build downstream of the protected (grey) surface
but it's also very patchy on the wings as at the top it's completely clear at the same time

it just looks fucking disgusting for anybody that knows what they're looking it
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>>321000849
>putting pagefile on an SSD
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>>321002847
where else would you have it dumbo
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>>321000849
>Am I supposed to create the pagefile on the drive that DCS is installed in?
you can put it wherever you want, better to put it on an SSD so it goes faster, and a larger drive so you can make it larger,
but otherwise it doesn't matter.
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>>320997903
So active that it didn't exist when fsg did then took over what was an active thread. Notice how none of those posters bother anymore now all the DCS fags spam this shitty general in a vain attempt to keep it alive.
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>>321007646
He's probably one of the retards who still think you shouldn't do anything on your SSD at all or it will implode and melt due to writes limit.
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>>321009527
See >>320998421
Either discuss the games you want to discuss or stop pretending you're here for anything other than shitposting.
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>there are multiple threads about the shitty looking ice in the forums, including statements from rl pilots and rl footage
I'm satisfied
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>>321007646
Depends on how much ram you have. How much ram do you have? I would argue turing it off if you have anything around or above 32gb. Usually the limits 16, but we play sims that use an abnormal amount of ram.
If you're relying on page file because you have 8GB or 16GB, putting page file on an SSD with system managed sized is a sure way to kill the lifespan of your SSD. Especially if your utilizing page file everyday for a majority of your applications. If not, then putting a set limit on your SSD you should be fine. If you have enough ram you'll hardly ever write to you SSD and it wont have much effect.
TLDR If your utilizing page file everyday then say good bye to your SSD a lot sooner.
>>321010509
Not at all, but depending on certain parameters you can most defiantly meet the write limit on a SSD with page file.
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>>321011337
>If you're relying on page file because you have 8GB or 16GB, putting page file on an SSD with system managed sized is a sure way to kill the lifespan of your SSD
My first SSD is about 5 years old, daily usage with system managed pagefile, and barely a third of the way to the supposed 75 TBW limit. A normal user is not going to kill a modern SSD, it will outlive the rest of the computer.
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>>321011723
I can lie on the internet too
my dad works at the SSD factory
daily usage doesn't mean shit
How much ram do you have
and how sure are you that you use pagefile daily.
the reality is you probably don't use pagefile very often.
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how about them planes
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>>321011337
everything in this post is wrong and should be ignored
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>>321000612
>>320999678
I see your point anon, don't they have visual and physical effects for ice build up on surfaces/airfoil/engines?
the effect on the windshield are kind nice, the problem I would say is that its over the top and no amount of heating takes them off
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>>321001137
>it just looks fucking disgusting for anybody that knows what they're looking it
I see your point, but you must understand the average MSFS player isn't the above
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>>321009527
lmao you cant read can you?
It was alive when the thread died because we all hung around in discord. Part of the reason why the thread had very little traffic. We didn't need /vg/ anymore. Now we're back in the thread all thanks to someone shitposting your /fsg/ op as our old one. That is the ONLY reason why simg came back. We saw our old ops and took it and ran. Just like /wgg/ yall handed us the thread on a silver platter and shot yourselves in the head on the way out.
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>>321012660
okay buddy I'll take your word
who needs proofs when you have the all knowing anon
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>>320993335
>>320974231
I just hope they don't outright lock it out.
I use LTSC and love it, but I have Windows 7 as a backup OS for the couple of times I had drive crashes, and it's going strong still.
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>>320974231
can't wait to see them rollback this restriction a month later when all the simdads and boomers flood their social media with complaints that their game just stopped working
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>>321012764
>don't they have visual and physical effects for ice build up on surfaces/airfoil/engines?
the current visual effects are all wrong and pathetic looking
physical effects date back to like FS2002
>the effect on the windshield are kind nice,
nah that shit looks terrible. It's not "over the top" it's modeled wrong
windshield heat appears to work for those aircraft that have it
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>>321012976
>but you must understand the average MSFS player isn't the above
well thank god the developers didn't get any experts to consult for them on the project,
or listen to any of their beta testers
or have several of the developers get pilot licenses.. you know.. where they had to study and be tested on this shit
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I did it,
I renamed it to simg for a laugh, and because there was already quite a bit of DCS posting going on.
this is SINO=Simg In Name Only,
it's still FSG, but civposting was always welcome in simg, so really nothing's changed

you autistic milfags can shut the fuck up now, yes we are going to fly in straight lines on autopilot and not blow anything up, dial8 and drink cum fags
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>>321014320
Thanks for handing us the thread just like dumbass /wgg/
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>>321014659
don't get out of line or I'll do it to you again
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>>321012551
Shut the fuck up and complain about the sims you don't play, this is skub-general.
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>>321014320
Simg has never been against civposting, it's just a couple of elitist shitposters who
ironically
ruined the threads the first time.
We used to have Euro Truck sim discussion in here.
And SABOW, I miss the SABOW poster.

The only place we drew the line are space sims and even I didn't quite agree with that.

So autopilot away, sky trucker.
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>>320987191
This is ridiculous, IMO. No icing on the fuselage at all.
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>>320974231
I dont even care anymore
as long as it runs on more than 1 core
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Great, so now I gotta upgrade to Win10 to fly my helos and Hawgs, fan-fucking-tastic.
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>>321022943
can't see that from the cockpit )))
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civfags and milfags need to live in peace

would civers fly a cargo plane in a combat sim? its basically same as civing right
gotta be exciting to land a c130 on a carrier
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>>321024123
There's a C-130 mod for DCS, lacking visual fidelity right now but it sure is shaping up.
civ and mil simmers can work together
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>>321024123
>would civers fly a cargo plane in a combat sim?
one of the best things to do in your combat sim is to fly passengers
holy shit would I love to fly an E-2C, doing cats and traps and shit, flying in circles finding baddies and running from angry iraqi kitties
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but would you fly a fighter jet in a civ sim?
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>>321025560
>cruise all day and style on niggas with your sweetass jet
>intercept scrubs that didn't check in after entering a new airspace
>escort every Airforce One, all 267 of them
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>>321026061
>all 267 of them
lost
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>>321025560
Someone needs to make a mod for FS2020 where you can fly a combat jet and shoot down other players (of course, they would only die on your PC, or even better, for everyone who has the mod installed).
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>>321023783
Just dual boot. I have W7 and W10 on different drives and only use W10 for the few games that don't work in 7.
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>>321026306
so TacPack, but in FS11
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>>321023783
I feel the same way, but I would wait
Reason being is that while they're going to change the recommended settings to Windows 10, there is no evidence that it'll be locked in.

Wait until it's finalized before we make decisions like that.
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>>321026418
Yeah, this is the solution.
And also wait to see if Windows 10 is a requirement or if Windows 8.1 will suffice. 8.1 is a good operating system.
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>>321026840
why the fuck are you so desperate to avoid installing windows 10
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>>321027275
The UI is atrocious and everything being an app that depends on the microsoft store app is retarded
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>>321027394
In what way is everything tied to the MS store? that sounds like a literal nightmare
t. Win7 user
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>>321027394
>The UI is atrocious
As opposed to fucking windows 8? lol?
>everything being an app that depends on the microsoft store app is retarded
literally complete horseshit, in 5 years of using it I've installed a whopping total of one whole app from the microsoft store
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>>321027660
>>321027960
Break the windows store app in some way and suddenly absolutely nothing works. Even the fucking control panel is an "app" now
>As opposed to fucking windows 8? lol?
No, 7. I skipped 8 entirely
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>>321027394
>The UI is atrocious
You know you can change it so it looks almost identical to windows 7, right?
>everything being an app that depends on the microsoft store app is retarded
I have literally never used the microsoft store.
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>>321027275
Let's begin:
-Only good version is the one made for ATMs
-This version lacks the integrations of installing Windows 10 like Mixed VR support
-Tons of bloat otherwise, has to be removed post-install
-Best installations of it are pre-install configured versions like OptimizeOffline
-Prone to failures during updates, basically requires rollbacks often when Microsoft releases another patch
-Tons of versions, none of the features are standardized
-New features are basically expecting users to be beta testers
-Most updates are mandatory outside of specific versions of Windows 10

>>321027660
Windows Store is a requirement for several versions of the operating system and most Microsoft software goes through it. Picture an app store for a mobile phone but it's on your desktop and it has just as many ads embedded into it.
It's more stable now but older versions were notorious for outright wiping your drive or corrupting data. It was actually impossible to install games from it because of stability reasons during the first year of Windows 10. There is no choice in using it, either. It's on your computer and disabling it requires third party software.
There's going to be some shlurp shlurp shlurp shlurp shlurp from fanboys about Windows 10, but they know all of this shit is true. They only pretend it "works for them" to make retarded posts on the internet.

Windows 8.1 is superior and has the same Virtual Memory Manager as 10 anyway. Better UI, better integration with apps. It's a great alternative that >>321027960 will ignore because he'll strawman about 8 instead of 8.1.

tl;dr: LTSC is the best version of Windows 10 and even that is inferior to 8.1
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>>321024717
based
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>>321028380
So there's literal fucking adware rooted into my OS, it breaks every so often and also spies on you? How do people think this is acceptable? There's nothing I hate more than ads and people trying to sell me shit, it makes my blood boil.
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>>321029275
>So there's literal fucking adware rooted into my OS
Literally Candy Crush ads in the start menu, yep.
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25 year old living in the city who never drove a car. Just got this racing wheel to get a basic feel of driving while having fun. Im taking my time driving slow in dirt rally 2.0 not understanding a word the guy is saying. I also have an oddyssey plus headset and it helps with the immersion but everything is kinda blurry even with a 3060ti also gives me motion sickness a bit. Cant seem to reverse either. I press down on the brake button as it says in the option menu.
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>Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant Add-On is in stock on Amazon
Lolwut
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>>321030972
>never driven a car
It’s far more fun and exhilarating than games desu
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>>321032371
I only have a learner's permit where i passed the written exam. I vastly prefer my bike to commuting to work and only plan on driving to go sight seeing in my state. I do need to book driving lessons but corona made that tricky.
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>>321030972
i had the g920 and tried it out with forza 7. felt like dogshit and nothing remotely resembling a real car
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>>321033810
Are there better sim wheels for the purpose of getting an idea on how to drive?
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>>321033961
no,
cars are piss easy to operate, they'll give you an automatic transmission to start,
you're gonna be slow and careful... you're gonna be startled by the feelings of motion and the road
just get in a normal car and go for it, it's not like airplanes where there's shit tons of procedures and restrictions
fuck most real life people can barely drive
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>>321032225
I think they got mogged by Honeycomb
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>>321033961
Yes.
Pretty much any PC racing sim.
They're all pretty good.
iracing
Assetto corsa
Forza is a game for console it's not a sim.
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>when the mountain pokes out through the clouds
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>>321043501
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>>321033961
I learned how to tow trailers and drive large trucks playing euro truck. You can for sure learn things you can transfer over to irl. Just try out some racing sims. I got assetto corsa for $5 on steam during the sale.
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>>321029275
> How do people think this is acceptable?
Because you don't have a choice. Much like DCS World, other applications and games people use Windows for specifically also require Windows 10, now.
Teh thing that made me upgrade to windows 10 was not DCS world, it was Vulkan and VR support in XPlane 11.
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Any recommendations for a flightstick within the 100-200$ range? The plane pastebin isnt working.

Mainly for games like MS Flight Simulator, War Thunder, maybe IL-2, etc
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>>321048138
which btw, totally fucking worth it. Vulkan should be a requirement for flight sims because XP11 is now my favorite flight sim, even over FS2020, due to the performance gains alone.
Also being able to walk around your plane in VR? Basically a requirement, now.
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>>321048257
>The plane pastebin isnt working
that will be fixed next bread
I own a hotas X and would recommend it, but that joystick is far below your budget and it may not be what you're looking for.
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>>321048257
My genuine preference is the Gladiator stick from VKB
https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=gladiator-nxt
I have the previous version, the Gladiator II, also available from VKB. In terms of sub-500 dollar sticks, it's head and shoulders above everything else.
https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/vkb-sim-gladiator-mk-ii-joystick/

The new stick is featured more like their Gunfighter model, which is a big plus.

If you are thinking of just getting a stick, I highly recommend a throttle as well. In which case I recommend this thing:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-TWCS-Throttle-Controller-2960754/dp/B01L28LVUG
This will run the price up a bit, but the TWCS is a great throttle.
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If you have a windows 7 key you can still use it to upgrade to windows 10. Just FYI.
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>>321048774
Yeah but it doesn't give you the good versions. The versions everybody recommends are the business/professional versions
In which case I suggest consulting /g/
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>>321048647
>>321048653
Thanks guys, ya I'm definitely looking to get a throttle as well. Something far below my budget isn't much of a bother either
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>>321048647
why does cephei not list the thrustmaster fcs? It's better than half of the saitek garbage listed there
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also if you don't fly modern combat stuff you really don't need a "HOTAS," You can get away with a decent stick that has a throttle slider control to start.
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>>321049945
Technically if you fly an old plane that only needs like 5 button bindings then a cheap stick and throttle becomes a HOTAS.
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>>321049945

Good to know, I'm leaning towards this Gladiator NXT to start. Wondering if that'd be a good idea, and whether the premium version is worth it?

And then if I feel the need I'll buy a separate throttle.
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>>321049758
unfuck cepheis shit, post it with your name. I'll updated it in the next op. Otherwise next time I talk to him I'll mention it.
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>>321049945
Depends on the game. I would highly recommend something with multi-function at least if you're flying IL2 Great Battles because there are loads of special functions specific some aircraft that you will need to keep track of.
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>>321050328
>whether the premium version is worth it?
looks like it has a lot of nice features, but they're not going to be relevant for the games you mentioned
if you want a stick with more features (even if you don't use them at first), and can justify the extra cost I say go for it.
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>>321050328
> and whether the premium version is worth it?
That's like 500 dollar joystick and honestly no at that point. Once you get into the "big leagues" of HOTAS and sticks, you have plenty of options whose favorability depends on stock, not necessarily price.
For instance, Virpil is generally recognized to have one of the best throttles for flight simming but it's only ever in stock twice a year. VKB used to be the same way, but they don't have a throttle to pair with the stick. Thrustmaster Warthog was the gold standard for over a decade, but depends on if you can get it used/on sale
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>>321050772
>500 dollar joystick
Nvm I'm an idiot and confused the NXT Upgraded with the Gunfighter.
I would say Premium is worth it if you're going hard into combat sims.
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thrustmaster need to stop being lazy fucks and update their shit,
they've been making the same Warthog, with the same issues, for like 15 fucking years
imagine if they upgraded the gimbal, gave us a real ministick, fixed the motherboard and other general improvements
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>>320458037
>to it's August glory days
to the what?
the glory days were back in 2016 and shit
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quick rundown on Il-2 tank crew?
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>>321057912
dont get it
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>>321058337
What video is this from?
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>>321058851
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKE3IfoB945/
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>>321058239
take the eight pill
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>>321058576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77WxHIBAnZ4
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>>321026418
What a fucking retarded and convoluted solution. Even worse than the people who constantly switch between Linux and Windows.
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>>321061057
What's up with the desire to do combined arms games, which do nothing well? Why combine aircraft and tanks? A flight sim doesn't need that much ground-detail, but the ground-detail can never be enough for the tanks, since it will hold back the flight part of the game.
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>>321027394
>The UI is atrocious
i don't feel it's any worse than windows 7
>everything being an app that depends on the microsoft store app is retarded
literally false
>>321027660
in no way
the dude is talking shite
>>321028380
have you even actually used windows 10, or are you just pulling crap from the contrarian nerds on /g/?
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>>321029275
>So there's literal fucking adware rooted into my OS
i don't remember ever having seen a proper ad in windows 10 and i've used it for years
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>>321033810
>forza 7
>felt like dogshit
what a shock
try an actual sim next
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>>321066031
i was going to try AC, but reading sim forums and seeing people with identical hardware using radically different settings claiming to "feel correct" made me realize it's all snake oil bullshit, sort of like the audiophile business. unless you've driven those exact cars in real life and KNOW what it's supposed to feel like, you might as well be playing with a gamepad
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>>321067123
>unless you've driven those exact cars in real life and KNOW what it's supposed to feel like, you might as well be playing with a gamepad
Not quite true. Once you've driven a few cars in real life of varying power, layout, weight, drivetrain etc etc, in a few different places, you have a baseline for what's ballpark faithful - and that's about as close as you're going to get. At that point, you can have a fair idea of if a wheel and a sim is near enough - and that's as close as you're going to get. But it's still a far better level of control, feel, feedback, granularity and familiarity with a wheel than a gamepad.
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>>321067123
people want different things from their force feedback
some (the minority) want it to feel just like the real car's steering wheel, while others want it to be as expressive as possible, so that they can feel what the car is doing as well as possible
of course this also means giving cues for forces that you'd normally feel through your seat, rather than the wheel
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>>321067570
Bingo! Without a monstrously expensive rig with a rear-breakaway module, or a pretty expensive G-seat, you're not getting any form of reliable information through your ass - and both of those solutions are questionable when it comes to realism anyway. So no matter what, you're left trying to interpret cues from vision, sound and wheel to telegraph what the car is doing, especially its rear. Things like buttkickers or transducers go some way to bridging that gap but it's still a compromise, however I still think a wheel shits on a gamepad comprehensively.
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>>321067737
i think buttkickers are one of the worst feedback devices ever. they fool people into thinking they're more immersed but it doesn't actually provide any sort of feedback that's useful
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>>321067958
I've never owned a Buttkicker but I've been running five transducers through three channels for five years or so through SimVibe and I'm absolutely faster with them than without them. That said, I personally think VR accentuates the feedback you get from them.
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>>321062816
>turn computer on
>choose one OS or the other after post
>boot up
Wow yeah so convoluted.
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>>321073667
Yeah, enjoy 30 seconds at least, even with an SSD, between each program.
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>>321074958
Oh no I have to wait for 0.034% of a day to use something else, how will I survive.
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>>321013072
All these people not remembering that the heyday of simg was around 4-6. DCS was always the most talked about sim but it was prime SABOWautist time, always someone talking about CMANO. Not forgetting the cold waters spam when that game dropped
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>>321060957
Uggo flying tractors, no thanks.

On choppers that seen like they'd be a no-brainer, why in the world is there no ah6/oh6/md500? I mean damn.
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I don't know where else to ask because I can't find the thread, is elite dangerous thread dead?
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>>321083324
It's not even in the archive, so the last thread died more than 3 days ago. Most likely.
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>>321083324
>>321084458
Didn't a bunch of those generals merge into space games general or something?
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>>321049758
>thrustmaster fcs
looks like just an upgraded HOTAS X, am I missing something?
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>>321080272
Because limited purpose and usually used for sekrit squirrel stuff, so most stuff is probs classified, like all SOF helos.
You get the Kiowa, that's pretty damn close to a Littlebird.
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>>321080272
>Uggo flying tractors, no thanks.
you see this reply? this is you not having taken the eight pill
there's no real fault here, everybody gets turned off by ugly looking machines, she's ugly on the inside too, flies like shit too.
but once you get eight pilled you don't care about shit like blackhawks...gross get that shit outta here
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>>321095308
It has more buttons and hats. Probably better sensors in the stick.
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>>321097197
The Mi-8 is anything but ugly.
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Is there any word on what the JF-17 devs are working on next? I'd like a J-10 because deltas are sexy
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>>321067123
That is the fucking stupidest shit I've read all week.
That sounds like something a bus rider would say.
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So I just watched Growling Sidewinder dogfighting Mig-21s in a Tiger and he keeps making snapshots without using the Dogfight/Guns radar function to give him a firing solution, he just keeps spraying and missing the migs that are well within guns range.
Drives me mad.
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>>321106790
Growling Sidewinder is garbage, don't take tips from them. They also blatantly steal content for their videos.
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>>321108498
Isn't that Grim Reapers?
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Growling Sidewinder and Grim Reapers steal stuff for their channels
Spudknocker has been caught twice lying about being an IRL pilot with military and aerobatic experience

At the end of the day you're better off just reading chuck's guides
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>>321111167
Redkite has useful tutorial videos if you need more than a wags video on a subject
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>>321111726
>>321111167
Why do people consult videos and other manuals? Don't official manuals come with the game?
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>>321112173
Official manuals often lag as much as over a year behind the newest features that are implemented.
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>>321112336
That's kind of a big oversight. Is it because the planes are "unfinished"? What's the price tag then for? You don't get a completed game, you don't get official documentation on how to use it. I guess thanks to all the people paying to beta-test the games for us who are still waiting before buying anything.
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>>321113042
Yes, I don't think any consumer in their right mind would support the DCS business model.
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>>321108498
You're thinking of grim reapers, not growling sidewinder.

GS is good and yes you original guy asking about him only using static sights, yeah, he prefers that. He's just very good at deflection shots.
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Any suggestions for things that should be in the planefag pastebin?
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>>321113042
At least it's better documentation than what MSFS2020 provides
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>>321120907
Is that MSFS 20 multiplayer?
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>>321112173
>Why do people consult videos and other manuals?
unironically, because people don't want to read the manuals or watch the official channel.
many DCS players don't even know the manuals exists, and I'd guess over 70% have never read one. You have to navigate the file structure of DCS to find the manuals, and that's over the head for many users.

Chuck got started writing manuals for aircraft like the A-10C, which has one of the best manuals in the entire game (and extremely high quality). Insufficient manuals were never a problem to begin with.

It's somewhat of a problem now, because focus on the manuals have shifted elsewhere because nobody reads them and there's constant crying about it. I've been laughed at and dismissed here and on the forums, for several years, by merely suggesting users read the manuals that they paid for.

Consider this example, >>321112336
>Official manuals often lag as much as over a year behind the newest features that are implemented.
this guy hasn't looked at the manuals lately and neither had I.
the F/A-18C has the most recent features (HMD MIDS page, AZ/EL IFF. these are a couple weeks old features now, not "over a year"

yeah they were lagging behind for a while there, but manuals are still being maintained, despite still being ignored by the community.

The Hornet manual isn't even ready to be named a "manual" and still exists as an "early access guide," and it's already pushing 370+ pages.

but fuckheads wouldn't know that because they watch GR, GS and read Chuck. you get called a nerd if you talk about the manual
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How come tank sims don't have clickable interiors? Are there tank sims which aim to simulate every button, key and lever inside a tank? If not, why not? Surely that's the ultimate form of simulation? Do tank sims focus more on the tactics aspect and commanding tank units? That's kind of what I noticed as someone who has never played them.

The same for other sims. Aren't fully clickable, 6DOF cockpits the ultimate goal to strive for in any simulator?
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>>321120907
that's actually genuinely impressive
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>>321121573
What you want is Steel Breasts Pro, I'm not sure how many vehicles have a full interior and clickable buttons but I know at least a few of them do
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>>321121569
ED made a recent push to update manuals in a more timely manners, probably even hired more writers.
Last summer manuals were in a really bad shape, especially for F-18.
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>>321122147
and we as a community need to keep pushing them
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reminder that these people pay US$79+tip for a single jet,
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>>321121569
>reddit double spacing
>autistic rage about how people don't read pdf manuals
>dude wrote a book to make a simple statement, that you think people should read more manuals
hello commie
the man who um acktually'd himself out of simg in a autistic fit of rage.
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>>321122449
>people that refuel on a 100nm mission just to feel cool
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>>321122449
>provides me with years of entertainment, more than any AAA game and most other games that aren't endless-mode like Factorio, Dorffortress or Mountainblade
>this is somehow still a bad price/content balance
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>>321123501
swing and a miss anon
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>>321122449
Eh good on him.
>>321122998
AAR is VERY USEFUL if you want to take heavy loadouts without bags. Case in point the Hornet, which has short legs to begin with, becomes extremely powerful long-range if you just catch a tanker on the way.

Biggest reason not to do it is because of placement of the tankers on missions and not actually the difficulty.
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is there a way to make liberation enjoyable on the F-16, it feels nowhere near as fun as with the mig-21
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Tempted to get the Viper instead of the Hornet, even though it's unfinished. Am I retarded?
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Can asobo stop wasting their time with all this extra shit in the game and put full priority on making the SDK actually usable for third parties
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>>321121327
https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/kyh5vf/timelapse_of_the_awesome_and_insanely_busy_vatsim/
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>>321121569
>many DCS players don't even know the manuals exists, and I'd guess over 70% have never read one. You have to navigate the file structure of DCS to find the manuals, and that's over the head for many users.
Believe it or not, despite Chuck's guides sometimes being longer than the official guides themselves; his guide was meant to be the 'condensed' version of the manuals. Only detailing the important information as a quick reference guide so people didn't have to go through the 800 page A-10C manual while in-flight to check the function of a tiny component.
This continued because as modules were released, the manuals were incomplete. Not to mention they aren't organized well, and sometimes are far too long or short for their own good. so people kept demanding Chuck make his guides.
I'm glad he did and you should be, too. Only an idiot would be upset that he has more references to pull from.
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>>321122147
>>321121569
This. I don't even think The F-5E manual covered GBU laser guided bombing until a year or so ago.
>>321122226
You may hate to admit it, but people like Chuck who make 'superior' versions of the manuals are the ones who are pushing them to keep their references up to date, because they make a better version for people to point to when they ask why the Manuals aren't up to quality standards.
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>>321121569
I have no idea where the fuck the manuals are on my drive.

>>321128408
I also read Chuck. Pretty good stuff.
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>>321128063
I'm rapidly losing hope starting with the fact that we still don't know how close Helicopters are to release.
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>>321128762
Didn’t they say helis are at least 2022 if not later
I don’t really care either way, I was never a big user of them to begin with
I just want P3D and XP11 aircraft to start being more readily ported to FS2020, and most hestitance has been from the SDK being hot garbage, if I’m to believe the devs
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>>321128638
I'll post the path just to show Commie how unrealistic it is to expect everyone to know where they are.

They are in:
<Drive>\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\<Aircraft>\Doc
They are, for some insane reason, not in DCS World\Doc.

The only way I found the manuals when I first started playing was because I was looking for a .pdf file of the airport diagrams.
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I have one of these, and old commie mini TV. Thinking of getting an HDMI to RF box, setting it up as a second monitor and putting the Tomcat's radar on it for muh situational awareness.

Few problems is that it's b&w and commie, not green and made in muh U, S & A, so immersion already ruined. Second is that it's a tiny blurry PAL shitter, so I don't know if symbology will even be legible. Worst case it could still display the VDI, and the more primitive Fishbed radar.
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>>321128993
>Didn’t they say helis are at least 2022 if not later
son of a bitch fuck my life I just want to be a Helo chad
I do have XP11 still with tons of Helicopters in it,so I'll probably spend more time there.
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>>321129010
Heh, for me it's
>C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\*aircraft name*\Docs

Might as well be on a flashbdrive on the fucking moon, and in Chinese.
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>>321127898
>Am I retarded?
you're just a viperfag,
check out BMS too
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>>321129146
>Thinking of getting an HDMI to RF box, setting it up as a second monitor and putting the Tomcat's radar on it for muh situational awareness.
Aesthetic as FUCK
>Few problems is that it's b&w and commie, not green and made in muh U, S & A
This just sounds better and better. See if you can get a display export for the Su-27 datalink
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>>321129893
Now that I think about it, it would fit for the Su-25T.
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>>321127898
The Viper vs Hornet debate is one that has raged in the autist-milsim community for ages. There are preferences for one and not the other. in terms of DCS, Hornet is getting all of the major feature updates but you can expect Viper to get its own someday. However long someday may be is anyone's guess.
My honest suggestion is to actually do what >>321129872 suggested and get BMS, try it out there. When the Viper is finished, it will resemble BMS' take on it in a lot of ways (and not resemble it in a lot of ways, too) but you'll know for basically free if you'll enjoy the viper experience or not.
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>>321128408
>his guide was meant to be the 'condensed' version of the manuals.
no, his version is the toddler picture book with big colorful photos
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>>321130153
I completely forgot, that's exactly right. Black and white fuzzy TV is basically the shkval screen. That would be extremely aesthetic in the Ka-50 or the Su-25t
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>>321130186
A picture is worth a thousand words, maybe-Commie. Especially when it's trying to teach you where the red switch is in a cockpit of red switches.
Like it or not, the A-10 coloring book was made as a joke and as a serious reference that people actually used. You (if you are Commie, apologies if not) seem to fetishize making real life more complicated than it actually was.
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>tfw just spent my entire stimulus check on the reverb g2
m-maybe vr will be good by the time it arrives
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>>321130662
Hope you got a 3090 and an i9
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>>321130186
>tfw harrierfag
I don't see how that's a bad thing, if it came with crayons it would be a must have.
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>>321130509
>A picture is worth a thousand words, maybe-Commie.
not when it's literally cutting out hundreds of words
>there are no images in the official manual
always excuses, I'm glad he makes those documents for the types of people that need them
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>>321131143
>not when it's literally cutting out hundreds of words
you mean making it simpler, by just showing a picture of what it's trying to teach the student.
>A lack of informative images isn't a major reason why the manual is considered too bloated
Chuck does in 80(?) pages what the manual does in 400 with the CDU by just showing a picture of the fucking thing.

Again always excuses for ED's laze. If you're fine with reading 800 pages of text to convey what someone with the screenshot function can convey in 80, go right ahead. You're probably on the spectrum, though.

Reminder that most textbooks and manuals for planes, like the actual owners/operator manual of most civilian planes or the NATOPS manuals for most military aircraft; are loaded with diagrams and pictures. The Harrier NATOPS manual has diagrams for every button, switch, even minor system on the aircraft hand-drawn to scale.
Unless you want to call the actual pilots of these aircraft scrubs, because you have loads of text written by an inept company who clearly doesn't give enough of a shit to make an actual manual.
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>>321131143
>not when it's literally cutting out hundreds of words
?????????????????????????
But if a picture is worth a thousand words, and showing a picture cuts out hundreds of words of describing it, how is it not objectively superior as a teaching tool? Have you not seen a textbook?
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so anon, you wanted to know why people don't read the official manuals,
they've shown you why
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>>321129564
>Heh, for me it's
>Might as well be on a flashbdrive on the fucking moon, and in Chinese.
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>MORE WORDS LESS PICTURES MAKES IT MORE REAL
Meanwhile here's an actual textbook handed out to A-10 pilots during the cold war
https://imgur.com/a/SD8Ew
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>>321133274
>DCS on steam
nah bro nah
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kys commie stinko
keep dilating you scrawny disgusting tranny
pdf retard
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heatblur manuals are the worst. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS ON THE HOTAS TO BIND IT YOU BASTARDS
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>>321131030
>i9
>not Ryzen 9
Sasuga
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>>321127735
The viper is a boring plane, so no
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>>321111167
I lost respect for Chuck when he said to put curves on for the falcon
it as it is has atrocious curves built it, you might need negative curves even
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>>321122998
I refuel cause the throttle only has two settings
off and afterburner
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how hard is it to setup pirated xp11 with helis ?
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>>321133847
it's obviously a gag
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>>321127898
hornet encompasses all of the falcon's features with way more of its own, not to mention it's 90% finished
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but hornet has fbw so it's not fun to fly, if it doesn't shake and sounds noisy it's just not a good module to enjoy. nothing beats the tomcat in overexagerrated sounds and ludicrous shaking
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>>321169758
true
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>>320463606
Why are Americans so vehemently opposed to hand holding?
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>>320752841
>Why bother with simdad discord drama autism when we can just play an IL-2 PWCG coop campaign with no hassle?
Except it is a hassle if you don't fly as lead.
Been playing JU87 D3 for a good while now and I have to work so damned hard to catch up with other aircraft to fly formation, the loadout always seems to be a single 500kg bomb which you drop and fuck off unless bombing a bridge/ship.
Is there a way to drop the formation speed in the campaign generator to 80% nominal or whatever was historically accurate.
Only way to catch up is cut the turn at the start and push the radiators to almost thermal breaking point the AI flies straight as an arrow with insane efficiency it is really tiring to keep up especially if you want to equip heavier loadouts than the mission default such as 500+2x250 or 3x250.
Best option seems to be to set myself as flight leader but then voice attack would be a pain in the ass to deal with since I am flying blind in VR and it takes several attempts to issue a command with the built in mic.
A flight of 4+ stukas with actual people would be nice, I wish the replay tool was better I love watching a flock of 8~9 stukas from the ground screaming down and decimating the place.

Also why did interest in IL2 suddenly pick up, I checked here every once in a while and never saw it once mentioned, let alone the sim general being up.
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>a flight sim focused on combat where you can actually walk around on the plane, walking to and from say copilot to gunner seat or look out windows, while another real player is flying it

make it happen
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>>320769784
I love Il2 but I mostly play ground attack and units popping up into view at less than 2k altitude is frustrating. I can make out troop concentrations and artillery emplacements and what not from the tents but none of the units are rendered at most you might chance a muzzle flash.
The engine is quite limited, I don't know why they can't give us the option to render ground units further away with LOD.
I wish there was mobile infantry on both sides engaging one another and attacking your aircraft at low altitude, I hope it will eventually be a thing with all the tank content they are adding the map would feel more life like.
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>>321174194
>push the radiators to almost thermal breaking point
redpill me on ww2 era radiators in planes and how it increases speed

i have no knowledge about this

>it takes several attempts to issue a command with the built in mic.
this was true for me unless i used a different microphone which was better quality. it could have been just the frequency response shape of the mic being better for the software rather than it being better quality but who knows. better quality should have flatter frequency response i guess

also you wanna make sure to train windows to recognize your voice by doing the thing
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>>320463741
this isnt a multiplayer server right?
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>>321129010
you could probably search "pdf" in the DCS folder and find them
>The only way I found the manuals when I first started playing was because I was looking for a .pdf file of the airport diagrams.
yea
..

i didnt even know they existed but i only pirated the entire collection and started playing il-2 mostly instead
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>>321175983
>redpill me on ww2 era radiators in planes and how it increases speed

It is simple, a radiator's function is to cool the engine or some component of it with cool air running against a heated surface.
Depending on the engine's design you could directly cool it with air, or cool a fluid such as water/oil which cools some component of the engine.
Water/oil cooling is more vulnerable as you can sprout a leak after taking a hit in and cannot sustainably cool the engine once you receive that kind of damage
As for speed, a radiator that is fully open would introduce more drag since the air flowing through would be in contact with more surface area so the top speed you can achieve would be lower.
If you close a radiator you would reduce the surface area the air rubs against so the drag decreases which allows you to achieve a higher speed.
But you can't just close a radiator fully because then your engine would cook itself with a nice "ratta-tat putt" and you glide right into Ivan Ivanovich's gulag.
Likewise you don't want your temps to drop too low in cold weather so sometimes especially if diving in a stuka at up to 600kph you don't want to chance your engine cutting out in the middle of a dive in freezing wheather so you would usually shut off the radiators and cut the throttle down just before you commence the dive
Another important factor to consider is that your radiators can be shot which could lead to your engine cutting out, so closing them even if partially during a dive is generally advised as it would improve your chances of not rupturing the water/oil plumbing with a lucky shot since the slats act as a sort of armour
Air cooling is the most resilient, usually if not only exists in radial engines which allow air to pass through the entire engine as opposed to inline V engines which are generally if not always water cooled
I think both inline and radial would need oil cooling I don't know what oil is for lubrication of the pistons perhaps.
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>>321169758
Yes, that's when all you have to work with are screenshot and video taking sessions. If you take any plane on a proper mission, you don't care about any of the "FBW shit" or whatever you complain has no "soul". You appreciate it, because it lifts weight off of you and you get to do other things which enable you to successfully complete a mission.
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Simg is a cum general and trannies and commies will never change that
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>>321121569
whats so bad about reading chuck?
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>>321183562
literally nothing
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>>321183562
it's a PDF and not mind numbly boring to read. It also doesn't make you feel mentally superior over other people because it has pictures. Reliance on pictures are a sign of a weak mind.
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>>321177467
ok but where the fuck do you learn all of this and why turn down throttle in the dive?

just so you dont speed up too much?
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>>321186163
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCynGrIaI5vsJQgHJAIp9oSg

greg is info dense and will probably answer a lot of your questions
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>>321186163
scenario:
>following skipper to target in a nice summer day altitude 3000m speed 320Km/h
>see target through bottom window
>wait for it to pass the window
>roll upside down and engage air brakes and sirens throttle is unchanged, all radiators closed
>commencing dive
>lining up on target with a gentle arc
>2500m...
>2000m...
>1500m...
>1000m... (unusually loud wind)
>800m
>pefect, droping bombs and pulling hard on stick
>fuck it won't budge FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>splat BOOOOOOOOM!

Maybe exaggerated but that would definitely happen if you forget airbrakes at high altitude where you can build up a lot of speed (Over 600kph).

With throttle set to high at high altitude 3Km+ the risk of control surfaces locking due to exceeding the never exceed dive speed of 600kph is increased even if you use airbrakes.
At least drop the throttle to 30% or so and let airspeed drop a little before commencing the dive.
Dropping your airspeed before commencing the dive at 3KM+ where AA is ineffective gives you more time to aim and drop bombs at 1500 to 1000m and get the hell out of dodge.
It takes a fair amount of practice to get right.

At lower altitudes like 1K to 2K you can pull off a dive bomb without even using airbrakes, you have to in that case otherwise you are easy prey for AA since it starts to become effective around 2km but you have to aim fast and conserve precious energy.
In a typical scenario you start at 3Km if there is heavy AA concentration, if AA is light you can take a risk and diver from a lower altitude maybe with a repeated attack if you are carrying more than one bomb.
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>>321121569
I read the manuals but I can't deny that they are a chore to go through. They focus way too much on identifying everything in the cockpit rather than what things actually do.
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>>321128063
And fixing the manual cache and the launcher.
>promised launch features have been broken since the day the game launched, but some faggots on the forum miss trains, so you'll have to wait to get critical features
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>>321186163
>ok but where the fuck do you learn all of this and why turn down throttle in the dive?
For basics check this guy's channel out it helped me a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYweoO-Ki3Y
For tactics and what not I learned from browsing online and reading a bit on biographies of actual Stuka pilots.

I still have a long way to go but at least I can reliably hit a target now with 500KG bombs when engaged by AA from high altitude.
At low altitude with little to no AA I can even hit targets dead on with high probability with the 70kg little bombs 1 at a time actually.

The trick was to look at the bomb indicator to the bottom left after dropping my main center bomb and see which wing the current bomb is on (2nd dash left wing, 3rd right wing, 4th left, 5th right) it makes sense when you see it.
I commence a shallow dive around 500m from target aim the very bottom part of my revi sight with right or left offset by aiming at the left or right edge of the target and dropping load the moment the target crosses my engine.
Took a while to practice seems rather useless though since targets are protected by AA most of the time and 70kg shrapnel bomb doesn't do jack shit to tanks only crewed and soft skin targets.
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>>321129146
Just get some green plastic wrap, the kind you make fake stained glass with.
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>>321189793
my bad bomb indicator is on the bottom right not left, you have to set bomb drop mode, that bomb indicator also shows you which bombs you will be dropping. It is a little hard to differentiate center bomb from single bomb but you'd know after cycling through.

I play without hud and went balls to the wall from the moment I started playing this game. I started in VR, never played it on monitor so I am not familiar with how it is done on that.
I just look at the actual gauges themselves.

I wish IL2 1946 had VR support, dauntless in VR would be fun.
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>>321130662
It's good, very small sweet spot though and unless you wear glasses, the face gasket puts your eyes unnecessarily far away from the lenses and reduces you fov.
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>>321133274
>DCS
>steam
You're the reason your mother cries at night.
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>>321180260
That's entirely subjective, for some people there's actual enjoyment in working the airplane, I find flying the A-4 a hundred times more enjoyable than the Harrier, despite the much higher workload.
I only have two INS waypoints, I enjoy working around that limitation by writing down bearings, distance and beacons or other landmarks on the way.
I need to achieve weapons release parameters to drop my bombs, i find it more engaging than "move pipper over target, target then dies 100%".
Ain't got no HOTAS, the plane needs preparation before I fence in.

Fuck the mission, if I'm bored out of my mind while playing the sim I'm wasting my precious free time.
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>>321159870
>unzip helicopter into aircraft folder
Nigh on impossible.
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>>321186163
>ok but where the fuck do you learn all of this and why turn down throttle in the dive?
>just so you dont speed up too much?
Because gravity is accelerating you as well as your prop, you approach compressibility much faster as a result and also a dive will force air through your prop, turning it into a turbine and overspeeding your engine.
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>flying spitfire in il-2
>notice after flying for a few minutes, first engine throttle starts going down for no reason
>only way to get it back to 100% is to lower the engine RPM thing right next to it, then it automatically increases up to whatever i have it set to on throttle on my desk

what is this, ive never seen this before. i think if anything in other planes it would give me the warning that ive spent too much time in "emergency mode" at this point and then eventually destroy the engine, but in this plane it limits it automatically?

>>321190989
i realized the rest but compressibility? you mean because of the speed of sound?
> further acceleration will result in the onset of compressibility effects such as shock wave formation, drag increase, buffeting, stability, and control difficulties. Subsonic flow principles are invalid at all speeds above this point.
this?
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>>321199101
oh nvm thats what the fucking RPM limiter does
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The Mirage F1 is really ugly.
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>>321200795
I wonder what bms will look like after the graphics engine update
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>>321201140
Hopefully the new terrain engine won't make it too difficult for theater creators to create new ones. I'll play anything but Korea.
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>want to learn the mirage of harrier
>only warthog binds use TARGET
>too lazy to make my own basic bind profile
guess I need to get TARGET
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>>321200795
For me, it's the Mirage 4000
>what happens when an F-15 and Mirage 2000 get horny
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>>321201879
Create your own. Why rely on other people's binds? Go through the tutorials and map your controls as needed. Ideally, look at the HOTAS of said plane and bind everything you see on there to your stick.
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>>321201892
At least it doesn't have that refueling probe sticking out. Why would they build something like that? Is the mechanism to drive it out in-flight that complicated to implement?
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>never ever
it hurts, bros...
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what flight sim has a chonker like this?
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>>321211420
war thunder
no actual sim has that shit, interwar aircraft are gross
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mod that replaces all the jester voice lines with lines from ace combat when?
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>>321216659
mod that replaces jester with a human rio when?
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>>321211420
IL-2 1946
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>>321190690
where do I get heli.,zip tho
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Enough of the Cybertranny 2077 trainwreck for me, back to flying plens.
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i havent flied dcs in ages, 5 min into hoggitgaw and a mig21 forces me to make an emergency landing
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>>321228368
another satisfied customer
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>>321228368
Ah yes, dcs AI turns literally any aircraft into ufos that defy physics. I got out-rated by a 21 in a gunfight when I was in a slick viper.
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>>321011723
>it will outlive the rest
this desu
Had a 120gb ssd for years, its still 90% good and i upgraded to 1tb. Will probably upgrade again before it goes out.

Maybe if you have a freak case of retarded russian programming it can fuck you up but i havent even met anyone who had their ssd burn out. Im starting to believe its just a myth.
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>>321229508
it was an issue before they implemented that feature that spreads write cycles all over the disk instead of writing to the same area over and over. Unlike a spinning hdd, ssd dont care about fragmentation as long as each fetched byte is in the same batch readable operation
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I really love flying the harrier in dcs. It's a unique experience and flying feels very good. Then you try to use the mavs or tpod and the thing just goes fucking backwards retarded. Half the systems don't work for shit out of they do with they're cumbersome as hell. It's mind boggling how bad the very same weapon and pod are implemented vs the other modules.
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which module has the most soul that isn't the tomcat?
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>>321237729
viggen 100%
maybe the huey
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>dude its old and has unreadable cockpit textures, so soulful
boomers get out
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What
1. Car Racing Game;
2. VR Headset; and,
3. Steering Wheel Controller
(all for the PC)
Should I get if I want to feel as close to possible like I'm actually driving a race car? Emphasis on graphics and true-to-life feeling for each car - I don't want a Ford F-150 to feel like an Audi
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>>321240960
What type of cars are you trying to race in?
normal road cares, GT3, F1, rally etc....
that would determine which racing sim is best desu.
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>>321241525
Fair point about the games. I'm assuming the wheel is a bit more generalized and can be used for any type of racing sim? I'm willing to try a few different games to see what kind of racing grabs my interest, but rally racing seems cool off the bat. Dirt Rally 2 looks interesting.
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>>321242149
I can't answer that desu as I bought a used wheel yesterday and have only played on a game pad desu with no assist. I played a lot of GT4 and use the controller layout in AC.I also have irl experience with twistys and fast cars so it worked okay for me. The best people to ask would be the guys on /o/ who run the /ovg/ group. They've been around for a long time and would be better suited to answer those questions.
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>>321243230
thanks m8 good advice
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>>321243446
Thanks I just got into racing sims myself.
I've been doing flying sims for a long time and just made the switch. I would keep a look out for Assetto corsa on sale on steam, I got the game for like $5 and you can get the ultimate version for like $7. That is a good one to start off with desu. I would recommend it, the graphics and feel are amazing. I've driven some of the cars they have in game and it's pretty spot on.
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>>320795064
God imagine imagine how fleshed out Korean war content would be if ED had just spent time on that instead of making the 1,000th WW2 game. An actually unique experience that would still appeal to WW2fags anyway.
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>>321257736
I hope the IL2 devs make a coldwar game in the future at some point. That is my dream.
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>>321258184
IL2 Sturmovik Battle of taiwan strait.
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>>321258184
I read somewhere that IL-2 Korean War is planned, might have been a dream or something though. I mean it's the logical progression now that it's reached basically the end stages of WW2
The lineup could be something like F-86, MiG-15, MiG-9, F-84, F9F, and then a couple bombers and post-WW2 prop fighters/attackers like La-9 and A-1
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>>321260353
Yeah I was hoping they were making jets now in IL2 to prepare for a jet era sim. I think it would really bring back everyone into flying who has felt betrayed by ED's misdirection. WW2 combat is great but it only appeals to a certain type of simmer. Everyone loves jets. Yay jets!
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made this from a thread on /o/
though yall would enjoy it
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>>321257736
Huh? You act like the ww2 content is even close to complete. It's 1/4 baked at best. A couple (redundant) maps and a few incongruous planes... You pretty much got a 'complete' ED version of korea with the sabre and the mig15... As about as good as they're capable of.
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>>321266078
This.
Such a fucking mess of planes with zero direction towards providing a particular era of simulation. Right now the scope of planes ranges from WW2 to gen 3 fighters, it's like a scattered assortment of planes all packed into a game with dry boring content. The only hope for a good jet sim at this point is something from 1C. Or someone make a new game entirely, because nobody can questions decisions made about dcs without getting a 20% forum warning.
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>>321273181
Maybe the new microprose? We can hope I guess.
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>>321260353
When I talked to Jason at FSExpo in Vegas in 2018, he said they wanted to do Korea, but had to get carrier stuff done right.
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>>321278552
mfw
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>>321278552
I forgot to clarify, Jason also said that the map size would be an issue, since all the US bases are far into the South, but most of the fighting occurred in the North.

I doubt it's currently in development, but he definitely -wants- to do Korea.
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>>320459808
boerse.to

but you need a non-amerilard IP to access the site. If you don't have a VPN a slow as fuck free one will work too.
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>>321279210
boerse.to and also rutracker.org. rutracker actually seems to be the source for many addons posted to boerse as of late, in their "Help find an addon" thread.

https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5479964&start=2910
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How do you find what active runway an airport is using?
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>>321282468
It's usually safe to assume it's the runway that faces into the wind, like if the winds were out of 270, and the airport had a runway 24 and runway 6, it'd be 24.

You can also check the ATIS if the airfield/airport has one, as it'll often say which is the active.
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>>321278552
fuck off, stop giving us hope
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/kznxkj/update_checking_interest_on_dcs_iads_integrated/
Thoughts?
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>>321288579
ED should be doing it and it should be free. Did they forget what they market digital combat simulator as?
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>>321288579
Absolute fucking kikery charging for this shit. Also wish they wouldn't even bother with EW because it'll just be sheer fantasy
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>>321288928
Since everyone just calls it DCS they've convinced themselves that its actually Digital Cockpit Simulator.
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>>321288928
Maybe they don't want another dev to get arrested for violating ITAR
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The discord talks about cum so much they're probably all actually gay trannies
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>>321294620
didn't ask
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>>321294620
Ignore drama posters
Ignore drama post
Ignore drama
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>>321297217
Man I like harmonising my guns fairly close - 200m - but holy shit I open fire way too close.
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>>321297531
For me it's 350m and I usually open fire at around 450-250. It screws me over when I get too close but I'm pretty good at deflection shots
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It truly is fucking rough out here, comrades
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>>321288579
>should be included in the core game
>should be free
>the article they linked explaining the "complexity" of IADS could be summarized in 2 sentences

of course the simdads are slurping it up
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>>321297531
As you should, point blank or nothing
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>tfw there are people who think the Tomcat is hard to land
Imagine having all the lift, all the control surfaces and all the engine power in the world and not knowing what to do with it.
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>>321278552
>but had to get carrier stuff done right.
Hope that means we're going to see hellcats and corsairs.
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>>321309748
Imagine them trying to land something like an me109 or a spitfire.
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>>321309748
It's not hard to land I just can't be arsed doing the full autism case pattern and I don't give a shit which wire I catch.
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>>321288579
>Thoughts?
ie) ED can't program AI for shit, needs modders to make a paid module for them.
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>>321310651
So far my nightmare plane is the Fishbed, you have to put the landing speed between the 'bout 50km/h narrow range of where you stall and fall out of the sky and where your tires burst on touchdown.
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>>321282468
Which game?
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>>321309748
Typical of jetfags. Why understand aerodynamics and principles of flight when the engine does all the thinking for you?
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Okay, this is def scary.
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>>321318202
Night flying at sea is pretty aesthetic when you forget about how you have almost zero point of reference and if you forget about your instruments you could either get lost or plant yourself into the sea.
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>>321204645
>prominently featured in every trailer for the last 2 years
>some poor guy on hoggit always gets hyped
>talked down by another user that was baited last time
kek
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>>321318202
>>321318332
upvoted
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>>321319281
You are a dumb nigger. You are the blackest retard gorilla nigger I have ever seen.
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I'm starting to get kills regularly in the P-51 in Il-2's Combat Box server. Before I got VR, my KDR was probably 2:53. Now it's a little under 1:1. Need to figure out how to fight these boom and zoom 109s.
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>>321328101
jUsT eNeRGy tRaP
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>>321328101
Me and my wingman always go I16, youd be suprised how powerful 2 i16s are when 109s miss their first pass, we where 2 vs 4 once and dabbed hard on them, if you have a wingman or two i suggest you try a air superiority sortie in i16s, i promise you its fun as shit and you can always see some will get frustrated dogfighting the little fuckers and make mistakes.
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I have a question about dcs SRS, do i understand correctly that radio channel switching inside the cockpit correlates to changing channels on SRS and i only need to bind the channel speak buttons and just use UFC console to change channels?
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>>321336028
Yes, if it is a full fidelity module all radio manipulation is done in the cockpit and SRS will reflect whatever you have set
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>>321336028
correct,
it's VOIP tied as much as possible to the in-game radios.
you set frequencies with the radio
you set volume with the radio
you select and (in some aircraft) transmit with the HOTAS PTT
you will not hear comms on frequencies you have not tuned
you will not hear comms if terrain blocks reception or excess distance
you will not hear comms if they are encrypted (I've never tried this).

you gotta make sure that SRS is connected properly to the game and the specific server, but other than that it's designed to be completely seamless
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>>321337042
Nice.
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>actually got multiple BTR kills with a CBU-87
okay I like them now
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>wags uploading new vids showing fancy EW/data link stuff
>all the normies are cumming over the fucking clouds

reminder modern gaming is shit because devs are catering to these retards
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>>321342094
This is the average DCS/modern flight sim player.

>here's a bland, basic picture of something other people created, i feel pride for taking it, isn't it pretty? i spent 2 hours taking screenshots in various liveries and in external views, pls like this
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>>321342864
LOL I WAS THINKING OF POSTING THAT
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we're not any better with our "OMG GUYS if you fly at night over water and you don't look at the cockpit you'll cwwash sO sCaReY"
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ALL HAIL GODS PLANE
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>>321344898
Civboomer hands typed this.
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>>321347918
>imagine being this angry at a post
>imagine being this angry at someone having fun with the challenge of combat in night IFR conditions
Damn sourpuss, how long till you actually kill yourself? A year? Get help.
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>>321348732
bodied
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Any practical way of keeping track of BRA/bullseye calls? Should I just have a map with a clear plastic overlay and draw the contacts in with a marker?
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>>321350847
Realistically simulated Russo-Soviet QC.
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>>321351164
you could do pen and paper.... just need something ballpark
in the Hornet and Hog you can set bullseye waypoints, and will give position on the TAD/HSI of the cursor vs bulls.
should be coming to the Viper at some point
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Jesus I watch these and realize I was pretty decent with jets. Now I feel like a monkey trying to fuck a football.
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>>321351330
DCS apologist told me "it was the sun"
I shit you not
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I've heard there's a trick to preload stuff in DCS, so you don't lag the fuck out when merging with a plane you haven't yet seen before that session. Anyone know?
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>>321352158
it's called installing on a SDD and having 16GB or more of RAM
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>>321352782
Already there, still keeps happening.
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NEW BREAD
>>321353851
>>321353851
>>321353851
>>321353851
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>>321262106
I did, very much. Thanks.



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