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Leaked banner images in the previous thread:>>314159886>>314162664>>314252897
>>314262864i wish pascal would suck on my banana
Bamco will surely release a Destiny DC & 2, Legendia, and Rebirth combo pack, right?
>>314263675You can always dream, anon.
>>314263675no because they are fools
>>314263770>Reid's portrait puts his head higher than Ras'Ras looks like a sinister manlet trying to compensate with this stupid hat.
Finally got my last Anise. Now my dirt team will suck slightly less.
Mating with Mikleo!
Reminder that Tales games are on sale on Steam and free to pirates so few of you have an excuse to not have played Symphonia, Vesperia, Zestiria, and Berseria.
>>314270551Having played Zestiria, I think I'd excuse people for skipping it.
>>314271826Do you think it's detrimental to the Berseria experience to not play Zestiria first?
>>314272134its detrimental to the experience to play zest at all
>>314272134Each game's enjoyment is enhanced by playing the other first. If you had to choose, I'd play Zestiria first just because it came out first.
>>314272134Yes, because my Berseria experience was enhanced by playing Z first. They're made as a pair.Even if you can't make it through Z, atleast try to get a good summary of it and the lore so you can catch all the "nods" in B
>>314275543>Even if you can't make it through ZI feel like every Talesfag should be able to make it through Zestiria. It's extremely mediocre, but it's not unbearable for at least a single playthrough.
>>314275771Z was my first Tales of and it was just OK. I think it's usually Tales veterans that dislike it enough to drop, atleast from my experience. People who have no reference of the series are able to digest it easier
>>314275771For all the shit Zesteria gets, I was at least able to finish it and its DLC. I couldn't even bother finishing Vesperia and dropped it after Alexei.
>>314272134Play Zesty and try to stomach as much as you can before going into Berseria. As shit as Zesty is, it made Berseria so much better
>>314276142It feels like nobody talks about how much it feels like nothing ever happens in Vesperia, it made my first play very awkward
>>314276142I've also finished Zestiria (twice), but have never completely finished Vesperia. I'm going to force myself to Vesperia's end finally as part of the Tales marathon I'm doing this year.
>>314276664b/c vesp is what people claim ff7 to be
>>314278748>b/c vesp is what people claim ff7 to beCan you explain this to someone who isn't into FF?
>>314278923Just overhyped. I don't think Vesp is bad especially seeing as it has a shallow cast like Zestiria but makes them work. It's easily the Tales title I see/have seen people shill the most outside of here despite Abyss easily being better.
>>314276664I actually kinda like meandering RPG plots, over jumping straight into the "here's how we gotta save the world" part.
>>314272134No that's like saying you can't play Symphonia without Phantasia and vice versa because they're related
>>314281571Z and B are significantly more entwined than P and S, aren't they?
I want to give her a huge huge and blow raspberries on her tummy AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CUNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>314283635How the fuck is she more dressed in a swimsuit than in her normal wear.
>>314285853No idea. I would've expected something closer to a normal bikini. She's still a cutie no matter what she wears though!
>>314285853What is Zaveid?
Did that anon ever find out who Alisha has critical HP trigger with?
>>314294478Oh boy, spend 7.5k gleams to pull 9x R/1x SR three times, and get a fourth 9x R/1x SR for free!
>>314294478>Bait for Christmas ArchePass
>>314272134>Play Zest>Hated it so much I completely ignored Bers when it came out>All my friends tell me it's good>Still too salty (and lazy) to this very dayI'll play it soon. Probably
>>314300701You have been saying this to me for over a year.
>>314301751Assuming you are who I think I'll hold you to replaying Zest with me.
>>314283156They are. I don't say people who play Symphonia to play Phantasia first, but in this case definitely play Zestiria first. I did it Edna helped and it definitely enhances your play of Berseria.
>>314263079>5 SSR>including especially Arche and SophieNow I'm not sure if I'm going to spend my gems just for this.They're so adorable.
>>314294478>baiting for summonings like this just to get people cucked with no SSRsI'll pass, Scamco.>"what does it really mean to bear one's sin"Family drama here we go.
>>314304320I've had this one in the folder for ages and I just now noticed it's about shipping and I don't really care for ships with Edna. Eh, I guess the Edna's still cute.
>>314283156Just don’t listen to anyone who tells you the shitty loli helps make Zestiria better. She’s pretty annoying and basically one of the reason the cast skits are so bad
Bros... please tell me this game will last for at least a year from now, i want to use THAT for Alisha and soon Christmas Milla
>>314312756Nothing will cure your shit taste so whale away
>>314312756Just quit the game like everyone else that doesn’t get what they want - why even bother
>>314312756Costumed units get added to the regular permanent pool. The game doesn't have to last another year technically.
>>314307890Edna isn't that bad. I'll admit that I didn't really care for her the first time I played through, but after a second playthrough I found that not just thinking of her as a token "smug loli" and instead viewing her in the light of a womanchild who has willfully kept herself in stasis for thousands of years, unable to process her brother's loss because she doesn't see anything else worth living for, makes her more enjoyable. Her moments of adult-like behavior and the tiny bit of growth that Zestiria gives her are easier to appreciate that way.
>>314319538I mean that’s what she always been, but what you described isn’t particularly dynamic. Edna doesn’t change at all - she just gets forced to accept reality really.
where's the fucking skip quest bamco?stop lying
>>314319850>what you described isn’t particularly dynamic>Edna doesn’t change at allNot him, but can't this be applied to basically almost all of the characters in Zestiria anyway? This isn't just an Edna problem, I remember it being one of the sources of my biggest frustrations with the game along with the combat system. I really liked the game for the first hours and though the cast was funny, but later on you're left with the impression that nothing really went anywhere it could have had and that just leaves a bitter feeling. I think at least Edna is helped by how much you see Eizen caring about her in Berseria, I've read people getting to like her more because of association which was a bit of my case too. And it isn't because there wasn't potential, because we see traces of what's beyond Edna just being the game's loli and the needed for plot purposes earth seraph enough times. Underneath there's always the grief, loneliness and hatred of humans often reflected in other games and spin-offs or even in her own game briefly during the (frankly also poorly written, moreso by how important it was considering it's why she joins in the first place) Eizen sidequest. She has the potential, just like most if not all the main cast. We saw how much that kind of grief can affect and change a person later on with Velvet, it's the game that just never goes there. We don't even get to see how she's doing after everything. Did she finally move on successfully? Has this altered her looks somehow? Hell if we know, because we can only speculate it happened as so, just as if you want to see any kind of pre-Zestiria actual interactions you got at best few seconds long mute flashbacks in The X. >comment too longWhatever. At this point I've accepted I'll never get another game that excels in almost every department in the way Abyss did. And this isn't just a Tales problem: a lot of old franchises have been suffering in similar ways for the past years.
I love Magilou!
I hadn't noticed this. It affects their skit portraits too.
>>314328874>Not him, but can't this be applied to basically almost all of the characters in Zestiria anyway?Of course, but the topic was just Edna. I didn't mean to imply it was just her though.Also >tldrI get what you're saying though, she had potential blabla typical words for defending a Z character because it all applies the same. I did grow to tolerate her in association with Eizen, but outside of that she is easily nonexistent and the fact that Eizen is also in the same departure of being stagnant yet still manages to have a compelling narrative surrounding his fate just makes me disappointed even more in Edna.It's all spilled milk though, like you said. While Berseria was a step in the right direction for 1/2 the cast, it still didn't manage to develop the cast in the way Abyss did and I think it's really sad that jrpgs are basically just saying "fuck it". But again, I can only blame Zestiria's cast for this too. Mikleo, Edna, Alisha becoming so popular was probably a sign to Bamco that all a character needs is a good design, overdone gimmick and "wasted potential" to sway the masses
>>314328874>can't this be applied to basically almost all of the characters in Zestiria anyway?Yes, the entire main cast is extremely static. Most of them have a singular notable struggle (Edna with Eizen's death, Mikleo with being a burden, Lailah with her past failings, etc) and they deal with it in a way that ultimately has little to no impact on their character.
>>314294660Did NOBODY roll Alisha? This shit takes exactly 1 second with a couple Z characters, cmon.
wholesome five minute sidestory, also aegis is a snifffag
>>314332340Aegis really takes a lot of abuse. Let him have a humble sniff.
>>314332340These dumb kids are surprisingly cute together. I'm eager to see how their relationship develops as Misella is disillusioned by Kanata's behavior.
>>314332340Kanata deserved a better heroine
>>314336058What's your problem with Misella?
>>314336058Nah Misella is cute, you just have a shit taste
>>314336058I agree>>314336254>>314336459nah she's ugly and flat and irritating.Yuna would be way better.
>>314336459>>314336254She's ugly, possessive and mentally ill. Also keeps on a rape dress for a living.>>314336816Wrong, I rolled two and sharded that stupid bitch.
Misella is the ugliest heroineUglier than Farah and her JUST haircutAll other heroine in Tales are way more attractive than those two though I guess you you could make an argument for Rutee as well
>>314337484>flat Opinion discarded. A man of good taste can appreciate any bust size.
misella looks cute in her pirate costume
>>314338036nah flat is ugly
>>314331294Fair. I also got the impression of them deciding it's enough to sell whatever will catch the eye of the audience without the need of making an actually compelling product, because for many people it was, and zestiriafags always get weirdly defensive "JUST LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS11!1". Unfortunately not the only franchise suffering from this, but I don't come to /tog/ to talk about other J-RPGs. It probably is also the reason we've gotten so much gachashit instead of proper crossover games like we used to: as long as people accept it and keep paying, this is just how it'll go. This is more or less the kind of situation I expected we'd get into eventually more than a decade ago when there was this shift to pay special attention to churn out the best graphics/visuals possible and leave the rest to take a backseat from a certain popular franchise. As you said Berseria was an upgrade, but even so, it's still not comparable to older entries and it still gets frustrating. I mentioned Velvet along with Edna as they face a similar struggle, with the difference that one of them is way more explored on it than the other, but even her character being so centered in Laphicet and Artorius makes her have not much else if you take them out of the equation. An upgrade, but not enough, and her case is specially alarming because she's not just part of the main cast, she's the protagonist. I wish at least Arise weren't lost in production hell, because it doesn't make me harbor much hopes.
>>314338028Your taste sickens me.
I miss the daily free summons even if I have shitty luck it gave me something to look forward to while still saving gleams
>>314341867dont think i could resist the urge to grope that, even if it cost my life
>>314341919I feel you. It was nice to have a chance at something good and go through the motions of summoning every day, even if 99% of the summons were just silver shards.
>>314338028ugliest adultI have to admit there are uglier children, like Chat
>>314342614Misella is only 14.
>>314343047eh, maybe that's why she's so ugly
>>314262864How do I get gud at Graces F combat? It feels like so far I'm having to mentally calculate super fast to know what routes I should go to mid combo, and if I can even afford them. Other than that it's really fun, at least Asbel and Sophie is so far.
>>314275771Beseria was the one I forced myself to beat, not that I'm saying Zesty was great either, as far as I'm concerned their both handily the worst games in the series and the fact that they're both the last two recent ones in a row is moret han a little concerning.
Is it shit taste to think Graces F is cheesy as fuck but love it for precisely that? the post battle victory quotes fail to land but I seet he soulful attempt and still appreciate them (well, more than Symphonia's any day).
>>314300701There are people who unironically think it's the best Tales game, I may disagree with people who like it but come on.
>>314345830It's okay to like things that are cheesy. If you're playing Graces with the dub, a big part of the reason that the victory quotes don't land is that the voice direction for that game is terrible.
>>314346119Richard's VA is the worst VAing I've heard in a while
>>314346119Richard, Hubert, and Malik's English VAs sounded fine to me
Saving for characters that were datamined but that you don't know if they'll make it before global dies sure is suffering.
>>314346259I'm ready for Julius to come home.
>>314346561Richard's VA does a terrible job getting the inflection right on most of his lines.
Anyone here played Ys IX? I'm looking at gameplay for it and it looks like a Tales game, any good?
>>314347737Would that have anything to do with not knowing how things sound/play out in JP? He felt more than fine to my EOP ass, as I have no idea how he's like in JP
>>314348080You can tell that he does a shit job even without having heard the lines in JP. There's something wrong with your ears and/or reading comprehension if you can't tell how unnatural he sounds in conversation.
>>314346259If there's no SSR art, he's probably just going to show up in the story soon like Eizen/Sophie/Alisha.
>>314347737He can't seem to pull of the more serious or maniacal lines, but he can do the comedy shit during the Future arc just fine.
>>314348335Maybe it's because I'm ETL, and I replayed Graces f last year too>>314348519I should go back to listen to M!Grima and compare again
>>314348519I can recall a comedic skit in the f arc where he still fucks up. Maybe it "works" because it's supposed to be funny, but he obviously gets the tone wrong.
>grown up Hubertwtf he looks like a lesbian
>>314350946I hope that someday a girl gets his outfit as a cameo costume. It would probably look good on Chloe or Raine.
>>314350946It's the hooker boots
I just rolled Summer Yuri and Vicious SSR, my luck in this game has been pretty insane since I started, now I am only missing Rita for full Vesperia. Anyway, how are the characters I just rolled for? I wish there was a good archive of units analysis.
>>314358547Summer Yuri is mehVicious is a great hitcount character
>leakers still won’t post all the xmas images>nobody has rolled alisha so a simple question hasn’t been answered>anniversary stream still datelessdead
>>314358547Vicious is the best single-target hitgen unit. Summer Yuri is a very meh tanky dark unit who isn't bad but doesn't excel at anything.
>>314359404It seems that Alisha doesn't have a critical HP line with anyone currently in the game. Hasn't that answer already been given?
What should i play next Tales of Eternia or Xillia?
Another unusual quotes.This time facing giant enemies.
>>314346119>It's okay to like things that are cheesy.Isn't Graces the cheesiest, most 'power of friendship' Tales in the franchise?
>>314360062They're both good. Perhaps Xilla first, so you can play Eternia between Xillia and Xillia 2. It's good to have a gap between the two Xillias.
>>314358547Give Genis to Vicious and make him into your new hitslut.
>>314360101the doujins write themselves
>>314360101>there are also quotes related to big bosses nowGod damn it Bamco, just throw at us some indications.
>>314360146I think Legendia is. Legendia is very "shonen" about it, with everyone making big *power of friendship" declarations at the climactic moments.
>>314360917god i want to fuck arche
>>314360917The illustrations for these are so pretty.
>>314360917>thigh highs with shorts Absolutely blessed. It's also precious as fuck that she's wearing Rhea's ribbon.
>>314361018Get in line, preferably after I'm done.
>>314361370Sophie is so dang cute. I'm looking forward to rolling for Christmas girls.
>Summer Rutee's boardWhat is this shit
>>314361584we going to fight
>>314361830I haven't seen it. Post a screenshot.
I hope the male Christmas banner comes before the female one.
>>314359951Well nobody has actually even said they were trying to find it.>>314360101Why the fuck won't they just list them all at this point...
>>314361161>that Sorey in the backBamco really knows their audience
>>314363691Don't worry, it likely will be because I can imagine they're saving a scumming 3 way rateup as the "big bang gacha" of the year
>>314360101>tfw no cute nerdy princess gf
>>314364462It would be pretty sad if they didn't know Mikleo is only popular because he's Sorey's cocksleeve.
>>314365340>Mikleo is only popular because he's Sorey's cocksleeve.Not entirely true, based on my experience between nip and WW fandom. Being a super pretty ikemen was always going to make him popular - nips always talk about how beautiful he is. Being tsundere childhood friend (waifu) is another big factor. Not everyone ships Sorey/Mikleo but it's very much the most popular ship in Z by a large margin, and it did contribute to his popularity.I think Mikleo is overrated and I say this as a fujo, but I don't think his popularity is solely associated with Sorey. You have the 10 or so Mikleo x Edna or Alisha shippers out there too, or even the yumes who want to date him themselves.
>>314366304He wouldn't be half as popular without Sorey/Mikleofags though.
>>314366610That's true, because I don't think Mikleo/Edna or Mikleo/Alisha shippers make up enough of the difference to keep pushing him to #1. I'd still argue he'd be in the Top 10 simply for his looks alone. The Talesfes polls are usually comprised of protagonists or good looking ikemen or both - I think looks is a huge factor, as expected.
>no one reposted the best part of the datameme
>>314369235if you can't trade normal ones in for the big ones to save space they're worthless
>>314369514>having adorn stones in storage, everI wish this was my problem.
>>314369656do you not have like 150 defense stones in your bags? What are you adorning to get rid of all of them?
>>314368882>coming up with reasons to keep people logging inThank you homo
>>314369798I have no Defense or any other stones left. I adorn the good free stones, the Raid SSRs that I'm using, select gacha SRs and SSRs that I'm building up, and some Karenfag stones. I have plenty of things to use them on.
Cheria is the mosy fun I've had with a healer since Kohaku
>>314370013>half anniversaryMy fucking sides
>>314370540If only she weren't so ugly.
>>314370667It's weird, it's like she's goth..but colorful? Unless that's a known style with its own name I don't know about.
>>314370664Why is that funny? It's not unusual for a gacha game.
>>314370013I've done that + some other stones I don't even use (Beryl for example) and I'm still drowning in defense stones. I haven't even bought any adorn stones from this event yet because I don't know what to put them on. I need attack stones a lot though, Spada ate a ton of them and I have a new Richter to feed.
>>314370667Doesn't Asbel have sex with her?
>>314370881Yes, they canonically get together and have kids.
>>314370540We'll never get healer with the kind of sick fiery aerial juggles Kohaku could throw out in between the aerial chases and ending on her Mystic. God I miss Tales of Hearts R. One the one hand if it got a HD re-release on console I'd be all for it, on the other hand I really do think it being Vita exclusive is one of the best things that console can claim to have,
>>314371073The Vita is dead. It doesn't need exclusives anymore.
>>314371345True and even then, no reason I couldn't still enjoy that version anyway. I think the only shot we got of this being released on console is by way of a collection, the same way that Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep hopped from Vita to PS3/4. In fact, in that context, in the event we ever got a collection, I'm actually quite optimistic that could happen.
I've been doubtful every time someone brings up a Tempest remake, but suddenly the evidence that there's a CHANCE feels like it's piling up. It's just really interesting how Tempest has suddenly been welcomed back into the family after it was disowned. Maybe it's just because of the big series' anniversary.
>>314372782Innocence too, please.
>>314373506Innocence was already remade.
>>314262864GOD I WANT TO FUCK EDNAIMAGINE MANHANDLE HER CUNNY HEBE BODYI WANT TO PUT MY 6+ INCH COCK TO HER SMALL MOUTH AND MAKE HER CHOKE WITH ITI WANT TO PENETRATE EDNA'S 1000+ YEARS OLD VIRGIN PUSSYFUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKCUNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>314374589I was missing that post. Good that were still around.
How IS Innocence anyway? Worth crying about? Is it a bad gameplay/good story/characters Tales or the opposite?
>>314374589I just want Summer Edna in crestoria So people can use that model for Porn
>>314375075Innocence DS has fun combat, decent main cast, and dumb story that feels too short. It's also ugly as hell like most 3D DS games, and the minimal amount of voice over is unfortunate.I'll be playing R later on and we'll see how that goes. An anon in the previous thread just finished the DS version himself and posted some impressions.
>>314375532I was saying the same a few threads ago but I hadn't thought about that part
>>314374589Ah, the ritual.Kill yourself Ednanigger
>>314336816>MisellaletDON'T REMIND ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>314336816yeah i still dont have and i okay with that
NA NA NANANANA NA NA NA NA
>>314379234worst OP tbqh
>>314379395Hearts 3DCG ver. is the worst OP.
>>314379395It's great with lyrics. We just never got the lyrical version in global release.
>>314379556no I think the lyrical version is worse, that singing sounds terriblethe localizers did us a favor in cutting that outgraces f > vesperia > berseria > symphonia for OP's for me.
>>314379752>not liking karmaAnon, come on.
I want to fuck edna
Zestiria's OP didn't need to go so hard, but I'm glad it does. I'm probably as biased as a lot of people but Ring a Bell really does tick all the right boxes for me. Though I love Graces F's too.
>>314379971yeah I have to give bonuses to graces f and vesperia for being able to use bilingual singers
>>314380183I am surprised Xillia's isn't higher on my list considered it had a huge jpop legend singing for it
>>314379752>vesperia above anythingwtf
Cutting cast times with various mechanics is such a sick idea, feels so good to do a 2 hit combo then almost insta-cast an otherwise slow spell
>>314380330It wasn't that memorable aside from that scene where Jude, a nerd manlet, is keeping up with a king of a nation wielding a huge ass sword with his fucking fist. What a fucking chad
>>314380462>Not liking 'I WISH YOU COULD HEAR ME SAY THAT I MISS YOU'
>>314380547Xillia is still my favourite combat in the series, I'veb een postponing Xillia 2 precisely because I want to have something to look forward to. I got a taste of Jude's Snap Pivot and been chasing that high ever since, it helped that I like literally every other part of how Xillia's combat works.
You Graces-loving BoAfags had better like Last Cradle's OP.
>>314379752Which Symphonia OP though.
>>314380881I don't play Rays but I love that OPBeen listening to the full ver since it released
>>314381108Not him but I vastly prefer Starry Heavens. I don't speak or unerstand Japanese but the way the lyrics flow is excellent.
>>314380651>>314380462that's how big of an impact actually being able to understand the song has anon.. even if the lyrics are "Heads or tails, you and I, light and dark, UPS AND DOWNS" It's still better than gibberish.
>>314380881BoA never disappoints.
>>314381108I liked both, I suppose I like the PS2 one slightly better.But not the Localized one mind you.
>>314382916Everyone looks really good in this OP for some reason. My favorite never gets spotlight in these crossover OPs.
>>314370013>Half anniversary>When the game is not even a year old
>>314383715spill your fav
>>314383715>My favorite never gets spotlightI will never forget how Twin Brave opens up with a shot of every hero's face, except Senel, who gets a back-of-the-head shot.
>>314384541__Emil__>>314384548At least he got more than one scene in the OP.
>>314384475Kek. I guess I'm not the only one bad at math in /tog/ and that will write shit like "4rd".
>>314384475>/tog/ - Math General
>>314385108Dirty escort hero.
I want to fuck her mouth
>>314384475its okay buddy you'll get it next time
>>314386342I want to fuck YOUR mouth, open wide
>>314386704I want to be Edna
I think Graces food system is going to beeven more busted than Xillia's.
>39 IPsAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DEAD GAME AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>31438795438I don't even play Crestoria anymore
DEAD GAMEDEAD GENERALDEAD PROTAGONISTDEAD FRANCHISE
>>314388796>DEAD FRANCHISEThanks, Berseria.
>>314387784Time to move Slayers up my anime backlog.
>>314388781Miachads rise up
>>314387954>>314389327Dark Gun SSR Mia when?
>>314389782Not like there's a lot of BB smut.[Nakamura Regura] BloBo Ero Manga (Bloodborne)
Martel does a great job making sure that any shred of doubt or humanity left in Mithos at this point is crushed.
>>314366995His VA is pretty popular too, so when you add everything together Mikleo is basically just fanservice the character (Male Edition).
>>314392487I think I would have liked Mikleo significantly more if he'd had a better dub VA.
>>314392847His English VA does bring him down by a lot, it makes him sound way too childish and misses the point of his character in that despite him seeming mature he's the most inexperienced Seraph on your team.
>>314392487You basically just described Alisha too
>>314393693Except Alisha isn't cute.
>>314394126You're right, my bad
>>314394126>>314394186Imagine having such a shit taste
>>314395761Damn, Cress is so cute. He's an underrated hero, despite being the series' first.
>>314294478How far in advance is it usually announced before a new story chapter is added? It feels like it's been ages since we got one.
new story Nov 26
>>314398018Thank you, noble leakanon. Too bad the engineer is Rita instead of Pascal or someone else.
>>314398018>The engineer is RitaCutes smelly autist!
Let's start some conversationList your favorite character (uno) from every Tales you've played.
I don't think I'm gonna make it through the arena this week lads. Might not even make it through today.
>>314400607These things rarely generate conversation, but alright. It's hard to choose singular favorites when there are so many characters I like. >Phantasia - Cress>Destiny - Stahn>Eternia - Farah>Symphonia - Zelos >Rebirth - Claire >Legendia - Moses >Abyss - Jade>Innocence - Ange>Vesperia - ?>Hearts - Kunzite>Graces - Sophie>Xillia - Rowen>Xillia 2 - Julius>Zestiria - Sorey>Berseria - Eizen>Tempest - Forest>Crestoria - Vicious
>>314380829ToX2 keeps the core mechanics but rebalances a lot of the broken or frustrating mechanics. Some skills have been nerfed, like the one that lets you revive with max HP and TP, and the addition of weakness combos give you a way to continue a combo without being fucked by random superarmor. Ludger's also an absolute god in combat. The only complaint you can have with him is that he makes most other party members irrelevant.
>>314400607chesterphiliameredylonizelosveiguenormanataliaspada (?, it's been forever since i played his game)estellehisuisophieleiamuzetzaveid (?)makinai see a clear pattern with the guys but i'm not sure what my favorite girls have in common (other than "they cute")
>>314402147Incredibly good taste in girls.
>>314402870Are you going to start another Tales game?
>>314403226Started Abyss awhile ago and more or less dropped it at this point
>>314403643Did you have any specific issues with it?
>>314403714no issues reallyits more of me thing i assume just gotta smack myself into it
>>314387784>Got all of their mirrors and 5* except Gourry 5* from doing only the 5-step and the free 10 rollsStill need more of their 3* and 4* though.
>>314400607>Phantasia - Chester>Destiny - Garr>Eternia - Max>Destiny 2 - Loni>Symphonia - Zelos>Rebirth - Veigue>Legendia - Senel>Abyss - Guy>Vesperia - Raven>Graces - Malik>Xillia - Agria>Xillia 2 - Julius>Zestiria - Symonne>Berseria - Magilou>Tales of the World: RM 1-3 - Pasca Kanonno>Crestoria - Vicious
>>314400607>Suzu>Philia>Reid>Zelos>Senny>Jade>Ange>Yuri>Chalcedony>Hubert>Jude>Ludger>Edna>AegisSeems like my faves are either good boys, good girls, bully bait, or shitposters
>>314400607Presea AniseRitaSophieElizeEdnaI just love Little Girls
>>314387784>tfw finally come back to rays for new slayers collab>tfw end up blowing all my gems on eternia banner instead bc forgot to get on to snag raz and max/fogI got Raz at least and still really want Max but help me if I'm not able to get Xellos Reid in the end. I still love Rays but the continual saving lots of gems and not getting what I saved for in banners burnt me out from playing.
>>314400607Phantasia: ArcheSymphonia: LloydAbyss: GuyVesperia: YuriSymphonia 2: MartaZestiria: EdnaBerseria: VelvetI'm still kinda holding out for eventual ports of Graces f, and Xillias to PC, since I don't really want to buy an old console and frankly hate sony.But.. I should get around to Emulating Destiny and Destiny2/Eternia sometime I guess.
>>314416364oh and.. I guess Crestoria: Yuna
oh the pyro raid is up, no wonder people aren't hosting normal raids
>>314417096It'll probably die down a bit by tomorrow. The ascension raids are more of a distraction now, since people are likely stocked on materials. Or more likely, they farm crystals faster than they can spend them because they deplete Perma Raid mats so fast. The Pyrowurm is a fucking joke anyway, now that players are all beefed up. My Annie-enabled Norma starts each turn with full HP, so I'm sure everyone will get tired of it pretty quick. They got all those Lizard VH orbs to burn through, too, so we got that to look forward to this week.
Who is strongest protagonist in series?
>>314418872Bad end Ludger
>>314400607>Phantasia: Klaus>Destiny: Philia>Eternia: Keele>Symphonia: Raine>Legendia: Will>Abyss: Luke>Vesperia: Raven>Innocence: Luca>Graces: Sophie>Zestiria: Mikleo>Berseria: Velvet>Rays: Mileena>Crestoria: Orwin
>>314398018Thank you, leakerbro. >Rita as the engineerI don't think I ever considered it could be her.
>>314369235I wish adorn stones aren't that too expensive.
>>314398018Finally some love for Rita.Why she's so underrated?
>>314360917>>314361161>>314361370Must not roll.Must not roll.Must not roll.
>>314422269Bro, she's the only non-heroine girl that has 2 SSRs.
>>314424589Alisha also has 2 SSRs, at least according to the datamine
I'm saving gleamstones for _____
>>314426530Nothing. I dropped this kusoge weeks ago.
Edna's ass fit for 3 dicks simultaneously
>>314418872Ludger, Cress, Lloyd
I want to rape Edna
>>314429868>>314429737>>314428012Why is she so perfect bros
>arcobaleno hacking hoursat least there are a lot of pyro raids active so the chances of running into him are low...
>>314431901>He still play crestoriaYikes...
>>314427115Then why are you still lurking these threads? It's 90% Crestoria talk and 10% waifu/husbando talk. Not trying you should leave or anything, just legit curious.
>>314433130now you're just projecting
>>314433295now you're just deluding
>>314400607>Vesperia :Yuri>Symphonia: errrrr Lloyd>Abyss: Jade by miles>Hearts: Beryl>Xillia: Mommy Mawell>Zestiria: Mikleo>Berseria: Eizen
Am I overthinking the Dualizing feature of Graces? I feel like it's a similar situation to Berseria where I wasn ever wearing optimal gear because I was wearing gear I wanted to level up instead.
>>314414552>Chal coasterNeat. One Mofumofu english muffin and every dessert, please.
>>314426530Christmas gals and Julius.
The contrast between Edna and Eizen's rings is very cute when they're stacked. >>314433746You're over thinking it unless you're playing on the hardest difficulty.
>>314414552Don't accidently order cheese soup as a drink.
>>314436318That's one pretty hand.
>>314437494or tea instead of a chocolate milkshake
>>314437494The cookie with the Symphonia coffee is supposed to be shaped like angel wings, right?
>>314437494Oh, so the coffee really is hot.
>>314433746The gems you can get out of it are nice, but the skills you get on them are less important that the actual dualizing process. You ideally want to aim for ACC and EVA bonuses as much as possible. Certain quality fusions give you +10 on the stats, but unless you're playing on Chaos, you don't have to mixmax the boosts.
>First try at playing HubertWhat the FUCK this guy is absolutely ridiculous.
>>314448141The double-bladed gunstaff lesbian is pretty fun to play.
>>314400607>Phantasia - Archie>Destiny - Stahn>Eternia - Reid>Symphonia - Sheena >Rebirth - Tytree >Legendia - Moses >Abyss - Luke>Vesperia - I hate most of them but Flynn or Patty>Hearts - Beryl>Graces - I hate most of them but Pascal>Xillia - Milla>Xillia 2 - Julius>Zestiria - Lailah>Berseria - Eizen>Crestoria - Misella
>>314449425Anon of fine taste.
>>314449425Good taste except for Sheena.
>>314450170Not that anon, but I wasn't much of fan of Sheena until I replayed Symphonia with JP voices. Her tomboyish Japanese voice sells her character way better.
>"Hubert gave a Present? To a Girl?"LOL what are you trying to say Asbel?
>>314418872That's tough. Reid becomes like a god in his game, Lugar is tough, Luke when he masters 2nd order hyperresonance, and maybe Velvet at the end.
lina is pretty cute, i should watch her show one of these days
>>314457498Why does she wear a tube top over a shirt?
>>31445804590s anime.What bothers me is how saturated her model's colors are compared to Reid's and Farah's while her talking portrait has a less eye-straining palette.
>>314457498>Collab gacha ends on December 10>Event ends on November 30What do they mean by this?
>>314464620They will gladly give you extra time to spend your money.
>>314464620The event is in 2 parts. The fact we haven't gotten the Tales character gacha yet should have clued you in that there's still more.
I want to fuck Raven, Julius, Malik, Will, Alvin and Orwin.
>>314468256But Orwin has barely shown up in Crestoria yet. What if he's a shit?
>>314429847Lloyd actually gets weaker at the end of the game since he ditches his exsphere, but I guess he's pretty damn strong while he still has it.
>>314468630Would be hot.
>>314472361can't wait for kanata to join the siscon squad
>>314472604What's a Tales without a little dosage of brocon/siscon thrown in?
>wasted my SR tickets>3rd one became SSR RitaI'm a lucky bastard
>>314474812>wasted How does using them qualify as wasting them?
what if in a future tales game the traitor is the protagonist ?
>>314477321TOX2 Julius End.
>>314477321I'm sure the next time Destiny is remade, Leon will be the protagonist.
>>314479996Given how popular he is, I can see it
>>314479996you're 12 years late, anon
Zestiria has the best soundtrack by a mile.prove me wrong
>>314468690I'm pretty sure he still has it by dotnw just like everyone else. Plus, it is now a cruxis crystal if i'm not wrong
This raid is so free, think I'm going in deep here since double Kannono + S Rutee + Norma busts through this so quickly and consistently
>50 IPs with possibility of dynamic IPs changeDead GameDead FranchiseDead ThreadDEAD
>>314486447He says in a skit that he ditched it for a while but went back to gather the Cores in dotnw, and he plans to ditch it again when things cool down again.
>>314495578nigga 4chan tells you how many IPs are in a thread
>>314496414Constantly checking and doomposting about it makes you an autistic faggot, I know it works
A slow general with fewer people has less cancer than a fast one full of shitposting. I'm glad that the general is here while I play Tales games and await the livestream.
>>314493681My water team is shit and this ascension raid still feels exceptionally easy. There seem to be a lot fewer incomplete raids with low timers populating the Aid list too; that's because there's no poison, huh? I hope Klab realizes soon that "Ultra-Tough" raids aren't hard anymore.
When will Nan be summonable in Cresty? Her boomerang blade is cool
>>314498808the dark one was pretty rough though, they just need to up the difficulty on pyro a bit.honestly I hope we don't get raids where you need 10+ people to beat it soon because it'll just be full of speedhackers and nobody playing fair will ever get anything from them. Fix the fps thing first, then release harder content.
>>314499170How soon did she get into Rays?As far as minor antagonists go, I'd like to see Agria added to Crestoria.
>>314499170I rape her a lot when her blade is stuck on the ground
>>314499732No clue. I imagine it won't be until year 2 at least. They have to exhaust all of their Sorey and Mikleo alts first. I'd like Gauche and Droite too
>>314501892I'll coom if Gauche and Droite comes to Crestoria
>>314504167I see their panties everytime in coliseum battle.
>>314505638Is it time to post panty shots?
>>314505638for me it's Droite
I want sex with Sorey.
>>314506952You can't. Sorey is pure.
>>314501892I was hoping for them at first, but I kinda lost that hope after seeing how many of the memoria we were getting were non-character ones. And then more so after we got the model leaks.But it'd be nice if they made it in. Or if they got into Rays, I'd probably start on Rays for that.
>>314507389I'm surprised to hear that they're not in Rays yet.
>>314507087Pure people have the greatest sexual fetishes
Can't you homofags talk about some other homo pairing for once?
>>314510102Why don't you? For the record, there isn't a single other homopair on the same level Sorey/Mikleo is in the Tales franchise.
>>314510661That's just the coomer pairing, everyone knows that Noishe x Dirk is the true love homoship of the tales series.
>>314510918All fujos are coomers, Sorey and Mikleo are for love
Reminder that Mikleo is not invited to TalesFes.
I love Sheena bros
>>314505638>>314505773Model download when
>>314511514>Elle gets invited>Jude isn't there alongside his wifeWhat the fuck
>>314512252Why wouldn't Elle be there? She's a main heroine.
>>314511514Good, there's no need to keep shafing Rose from her sidekick spot in 2020. Mikleo is just a wife, he isn't more relevant than Rose to Z.
>PS4 controller was working fine with Vesperia yesterday>today it won't work on the main menu>load save and use keyboard to select the controller for player 1>everything's fine>except the button to enter towns won't work nowGoddamn this bullshit is annoying.
>>314441624no it's DOTNW coffee so it tastes like shit
>>314512252Idk how he's been lately but I know his VA developed health issues that interfered with his voice work so who knows.
>>314513173the dotnw drink is in the bottom right
>>314512416This. It's like saying Cheria's more important than Sophie. She's just there to spread her legs for Asbel, Mikleo is the same
>>314513210I think I remember that. I hope he gets better soon. I don't want to lose another Tales VA.
>>314400607>Phantasia: Klarth>Destiny: Stahn/Johnny>Symphonia: Colette>Abyss: Luke>Graces: Asbel>Xillia: Alvin>Xillia 2: Julius>Zestiria: Edna>Rays: Karia>Crestoria: MisellaHaven't played Destiny 2 yet but Harold is for sure my fave there and I know Raven and Judith will be favs for sure whenever I get to Vesperia.Find it a little strange how I still look to Luke and Asbel as my favs in their respective games when I liked others in the cast a lot too but that's just how it is in the end.
Also glad there's a lot of Julius bros here, best nii-san.
>>314512416He actually is since his family literally started the entire plot and he was used to cursed Hedalf.
>>314514758In that sense he is a plot device, yes, but not a co-protag like Rose. He is not essential to moving Sorey's journey along, he is essential to his dreams.
>>314511514shing rocks the generic brunet shonen protagonist look better than sorey and the link guy
>>314513173Well, the dotnw is milk tea, so if you order it and get coffee, there's probably a few problems.
>>314514614Best nii-san will be in Crestoria soon.
>>314515296>Link guyAllen is so generic that "Link guy" fits even if you know his name.
>>314514758He is not his family. You could write Mikleo out of the story with minimal effort.
>>314513620Who else did we lose besides Dhaos, Hugo, Nanaly, and Eugene? Rutee's at least was someone who retired.
>>314516430>He is not his family.? Not that anon but he's Michael's nephew
>>314513210>>314513620Yonaga's character in Vanguard started talking again recently after a long time being written off, so I think he's doing voice work again.
>>314516850>>314516873That sucks to hear. Didn't hear the original one so I had no clue.
>>314516991I don't want to hold it against the new actress, but her previous voice was so much better. Feels bad.
>>314517260That's how I feel about Dhaos' lost voice. No hate for Toshiyuki, just disappointed that the new direction was to make his voice so deep. It was probably to reference Yggdrasil.
>>314400607Phantasia: ArcheSymphonia: RaineAbyss: TearVesperia: RavenXillia 1/2: Gaius
>>314517430I like Toshiyuki's work in the OVA. There's certainly a strong appeal to Shiozawa's more youthful and organic-sounding Dhaos though.
>>314520309I completely agree with you. Whenever Japanese twitter talk about Shiozawa I get emotional all over again at the potential lost. The topic kicked back up again when that Rays TV ad came out.
https://twitter.com/toas_promo/status/1330043292617236482Short preview of Asteria's new theme song (starts 25 sec in)
>Shiozawa died young >part of his short Wikipedia article is a quote from Midorikawa (Leon) that Shiozawa was his hero
>>314522860We're gonna meditate this pain away, Anon.
>>314522821The sample sounds good. What else is currently known about the next chapter of Asteria?
>>314516704Oh that's good to hear. I like him in other series too but I hope he's not pushing himself too hard.
>>314523120Just that Ludger is the main character.
>>314523685Oh, that's right. Isn't he singing the OP?
Just spent about $350+45k gleams saved and no Alisha, well at least i help the server to stay up for another year so she can have another rateup banner, there's also her bride alt coming. It hurts so much but well that's gacha for you
>>314526374should have just quit after the saved gleams. sorry but it's foolish to spend real money on a game that isn't just flopping in the global server but in the home server too. i wsih you good luck on her future rateups, at the very least.
>>314515296Sorey and Shing are both good boys and I want to be spitroasted by them.
Lloyd and Magilou play Berseriahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUq3VWXDbk
>>314527034Yeah i was thinking i should've just let it go after the saved gleams but suddenly i went full retard and say to myself 'hey you've got nothing else you want anyway so just spend your money on her'.
ded franchiseded general
What are you guys getting with these?
>>314536314I'm never farming water because Patty sucks so I got water items to upgrade my Nono
>>314536314Just level 1 mats. The prices on the shards and "crystal" items are absurd and don't match the drop/usage rate. In fact, the drop rate in raids between the three seem negligible. After farming 6 Richter stones, I had at least 130 Cantarella, but only 160 Obsidian. Yet, you typically use 2x as many Obsidian over Cantarellas when Ascending characters and their grids. The price simply does not match the usage rate, so it's far more practical to line your inventory with all the heavily used mats, even if they're supposed to be more "common".
>>314526374That sucks man. I spent 90K gleamstones for Barbatos only to get the 0.1 percent Dhaos instead. This shit really sucks without a real pity system. Hopefully you can bag her off of a selected summons in the future
>two and a half weeks after I've quit the game>a month and a half after I've told Namco about my Weekly's bug>they reply with "Sucks to be you, I guess"
>>314537195>90kDamn, I thought I had it bad. Did you quit too?
>>314544102Man, they're really doing not even the bare minimum to keep their userbase. I remember seeing your posts on here, anon. I'm sorry.
>>314536314I spent them all the low level dark and wind mats.
>>314547216He's so darn cute.
>>314516430He was literally the baby who caused Hedalf to become a hellion to begin with, and he is the reason why Sorey became interested in becoming a shepherd. You're confusing a irrelevance with a character who doesn't actually do much in the game. Mikleo is relevant (more so than Rose) but he doesn't do anything in the story.
>>314515223>He is not essential to moving Sorey's journey along, he is essential to his dreams.Rose isn't really essential for either of those things while Mikleo acts as a reasoning for why the story even occurs to begin with. Heck they've pretty much already retold Zestiria with just Sorey, Mikleo and Lailah.
Say Happy Birthday to your favorite sociopath.
>>314557456Happy Birthday Musee!
>>314557762She's not a sociopath, she's just a retarded spirit.
>>314529398Lloyd's exaggerated "BEINFU?!" at the start sounded a lot like "BL?!"
>>314558101Hot enough for me either way.
>>314558387Well, yes, she certainly is hot.
>>314557456this ssr better come sooner rather than later, i need a indignation bot
>>314547216god, he's such a moron. I wanna ride his dick so bad
>>314565464Sorey is hardly a moron, coombrain. If you want to fuck a really stupid boy, go for Lloyd or Veigue. You're guaranteed to have retarded children.
>>314426530Mikleo! And nii-san
>>314565891tell me more about retarded boys
>>314510102Whenever I say Ludger did the bad end just to get fucked by Julius the rest of their days people just agree with me, nothing to talk about.
>>314568593>Whenever I say Ludger did the bad end just to get fucked by Julius the rest of their days people just agree with meNice.
when the fuck are they gonna port Xilias/Grace to either pc or switch?
>>314569516Never, because I'm sure dipshit nips have filled out that survey asking for more Symphonia and Abyss ports.
>>314569516after they release English version of Destiny Director Cut and actual Destiny 2.
>>314569731>neverSo, also after the English Rebirth release.
>>314570703that's just Stahn, huh
>>314547602Nope. I just became numb to it. There are other characters I'd want who more than likely will be EXs too in the future
>>314571842I wonder how long it'll be before we know the next EX character. We knew Barbie so far in advance.
>>314526374the fate of an Alishafag
>>314572539unless julius is in the next story update, then it's julius because his MA cut in was in the leaks
>>314572539i think we know its julius because of datamines. i wish the anon who leaked everything up to just before now would come back.
>>314573438>>314573428Julius has had an MA cut-in and an SR character image datamined. Isn't that consistent with a story appearance like Eizen or Sophie? He would have an SSR artwork if he were going to be an EX summon.
>>314557434>Rose isn't really essential for either of those thingsYes, she is. The shin no nakama subplot stresses the importance of Sorey having a human partner that can see and feel what he does and share his burden on his journey. Rose is essential for that, Mikleo cannot be a substitute and is even the one actively stressing that >Mikleo acts as a reasoning for why the story even occurs to begin withAgain, this is just a plot device. None of this actually affects his characterization throughout the game
>>314574019I don't remember Eizen having a MA cut-in.
>>314569516Happy to see more Xillia love on here, it may have one of the worst casts in the series, awful towns and not an amazing story but it is damn good to play
>>314576073>it may have one of the worst casts in the seriesIrredeemable taste. Dare I ask which casts you think are the best?
>>314576335Berseria's probably. It may not save me but I wasn't counting Maxwell and Jude
>>314576428Also Vesperia, because I liked seeing Yuri lift Karol up despite him being older, and Rita slowly becoming less of a cunt and really good friends with Estelle. I'm sure this is the answer you were waiting for to blast me, right?
>>314574019laphicet and kyle both had their stones datamined since launch and theyre literally just tower stones. also odds are we wont get a ex summon til past new years since the game is setting up 2 christmases and new years luke/cheria back to back to back in that same datamine
>>314575790Enemy Eizen didn't have a MA
>>314576781>>314576428>Berseria and Vesperia are the best castsI could hardly find you more wrong. It takes all kinds, I suppose.
>>314577332They're usually up there when people rate casts though right? I'm not trying to say it legitimises my opinion, but I'm clearly not alone. Interested in what you find so good about Xillia's too? For my part, they didn't have a really fun dynamic.
>>314578007You don't need to save gleams for an SR.
>>314577942I love the whole cast of Xillia/2. Both games have a ton of great skits and post-battle quotes thanks to the individuals and group dynamic, imo. Everyone settles into such a comfortable bond with each other, despite their wildly different circumstances and ages. I like the way Xillia handles its former enemies in particular too.https://youtu.be/HsQxCPTow-A?t=189https://youtu.be/pJNph3KwVX4?t=315https://youtu.be/pJNph3KwVX4?t=603
>>314577942Lots of people praise the Berseria cast, but I wasn't especially fond of it. I do feel that I need to replay Berseria before I finalize my opinion, but from my first playthrough, I rather disliked Laphicet and was indifferent to Rokurou. I didn't feel like there was anything particularly moving about the group dynamic. I don't feel like I've seen Vesperia's cast get praised much outside of Yurifags, Yurifagging.
Just realised Graces has no stupid gay little mascot, why did they start adding those in again? The games without them are just so much better for their absence.
>>314579837Sophie is the mascot.
>>314579837Teepo, Zapie, the Scallops, and Rollo are all mascots I wouldn't want to be without.
>>314580646I like that you couldn't bring yourself to say Bien-Fu
>>314580748I would never say Bienfu. He sucks.
Was there an error in the definitive edition that switched hisca and chastel's names? Chastel had the bigger chest in the movie but she's flatter in the game
Why is dhaos so pretty?
>>314593106Suffering is beautiful.
>>314593106cause he's a pretty boy with a manly voice
What is the mechanic of changing character models/skins called in TOX/Z/B?
>Rose armatizes right away because XDThe fuck is this
>>314575504>Yes, she is. The shin no nakama subplot stresses the importance of Sorey having a human partner that can see and feel what he does and share his burden on his journey.But that just means that his partner can be anyone with a high enough resonance not Rose specifically. Heck that plot line ended up not being important anyway and got dropped. Since Rose isn't even the one closest to Sorey. If anything the plot line was a false one. >Again, this is just a plot device. None of this actually affects his characterization throughout the gameNeither does Rose, literally the only reason why she is in the team is because she has high resonance, her personality doesn't matter and doesn't do anything to alter the story.
I want to be one with Edna
I really hope tales don't die. They make high quality boys compared to some other franchises.
>>314605339I feel like Arise must have been scrapped and remade so many times by now
>>314605339There's no good reason to worry about the series dying right now. Crestoria has problems and Arise is in limbo, but the series is still way more alive than a lot of other series are. Tales has three fucking gacha games going including one that's like six years old and shows no signs of death, Tales is still having its yearly fan festival despite this year's plague-postponement, Tales-related merch events are still happening, the Koto Tales of Shops are still busy and being redecorated on the regular with new goods, Scamco still churns out VA-related content on the regular... The series isn't in any danger of suddenly croaking.
>>314605147Edna a cute, A CUTE!
>>314605901Zestira and Berseria being the two back to back and two most recent game that were both trash is definitely cause for concern with Arise imo. As if the lack of gameplay footage still alreay isn't.
>>314605339I don't think it will any time soon, even if we're definitely not at a good point.
>>314606075Zestiria and Berseria aren't widely considered to be trash, despite Zestiria's controversy.
>>314606786Meh, even if you liked them I can't see why you'd put either above any Tales game of at least post-Symphonia times.
>>314605339>Look at me ! Im a faggot !! Wow
>>314607075Neither your opinion nor mine matter to this line of discussion.
>>314607075Tempest is a post-Symphonia game, you know.
>>314605147>ywn armatize with Edna
>>314536314All on water mats, especially need them to board up my Nonno. Bacturnian man is one of the longest raids too and wind is shit
>>314607868>t. VelvetletWho will be the next high attack Wind unit?
>>314606075The general opinion of Berseria is positive, what are you on >>314606786The general opinion of Zestiria is negative, what are you on. Even the staunch Zestiria defenders have complained extensively about the terrible AI, the boring weapon grid and the horrible battle camera, to name some.
>>314605012>not Rose specifically.Almost like... Rose is the only one presented in the story with those requirements and nobody else...?>Since Rose isn't even the one closest to Sorey. It was never about that so way to miss the point. It was about her being similar to him, as a human with high resonance. That's it, that's all.> literally the only reason why she is in the team is because she has high resonanceI don't disagree, but that still makes her more relevant to Sorey's journey as a SHEPHERD than Mikleo, who could easily be substituted by another water seraph (Uno) in terms of his role as sublord.Mikleo is relevant as a plot device and as a catalyst/aid to Sorey's DREAM. He has no more or less of a role than say, Edna or Zaveid, to Sorey's progression as a shepherd. He is the filler waterboy and remains that for the entire game.Rose's special circumstances put her above nearly every human in Glenwood, enabling her to be the only human companion to help Sorey progress as a shepherd.
>>314608230There's so much of Zestiria's DNA in Berseria, I dunno' how people can pretend it's a significant improvement. It's even worse in some aspects for me, the weapon fusion was worse and Armatization was a better OP win button than Velvet's dull demon arm.
>>314606075As much as people meme Zestiria, nearly half of their cast are comprised of the most popular characters in the franchise & are some of the few cashcow characters left for this franchise to milk. It's impossible for everyone to hate Z if that's the case.
>>314609362>Almost like... Rose is the only one presented in the story with those requirements and nobody else...?So how is that different from Mikleo.>It was never about that so way to miss the point. It was about her being similar to him, as a human with high resonance. That's it, that's all.Actually it was about that, as the seraph felt that they as seraph couldn't be as close to Sorey or understand him as well as another human could. It's literally a part of Mikleo's description in the anniversary guidebook. It was meant to be Mikleo's character arc that's why they kept hinting that if Sorey went off the deep end it would be Mikleo who brought him back, not Rose or anyone else. Rose's actual reasoning for being in the group is that she can challenge Sorey's beliefs as his foil.>but that still makes her more relevant to Sorey's journey as a SHEPHERD than Mikleo, who could easily be substituted by another water seraph (Uno) in terms of his role as sublord.Uno is not Sorey's best friend, but this is further proving my point. Mikleo's position in the party isn't based on him being a water seraph but rather his relationship to Sorey and his relevance to the plot. Like I said they literally retold Zestiria while only keeping around Sorey, Mikleo and Lailah and the Sorey was the same as in the original game.
>>314610742>So how is that different from Mikleo.Because Mikleo can be replaced as a sublord, just as any other seraph. Rose can't be replaced as a squire, as we see with Alisha, Sergei and every other human - they do not have the resonance she does.>as the seraph felt that they as seraph couldn't be as close to Sorey or understand him as well as another human could. And that was just Mikleo's insecurities talking. It's never actually "proven" by the narrative to be true, because the game is bad and drops subplots like a hot potato.>Mikleo's position in the party isn't based on him being a water seraph but rather his relationship to Sorey This is true, Mikleo is Sorey's "one and only" - nobody can fill the position of their relationship and I'm not arguing that.>and his relevance to the plot.As a plot device that moves absolutely nothing about the story on his own? I guess. >they literally retold Zestiria while only keeping around Sorey, Mikleo and Lailah and the Sorey was the same as in the original game.Context?
>>314609589At least on the fujo camp (remeber, half the audience, half the gacha whales and the biggest merch buyers by far), the general opinion is that Zestiria is a bad game where the good boys just happen to be. I don't know what the Edna and Alisha coomers think about the game, broadly, but somehow I doubt it's all that different.>>314609515It's only just different enough to feel like a different flavor, particularly since it goes back to the party actually being 4 characters instead of effectively 2 + 2 supports, one of the biggest complains about Zestiria gameplay I've seen.
>>314611578>the general opinion is that Zestiria is a bad game where the good boys just happen to be.More or less. I like Zestiria and it has a certain place by being my first Tales of, but the more I played others, the more I realized how basic it was. It has alot of untapped potential everywhere but for me, the cute (not homos) are the only thing I come back to. I think the majority of (western) fujos basically echoe this sentiment, but there are a subset of nip fujos that really do love Zestiria. Flaws and all. Every character. And try to pull some depth of it. It's really amusing reading their tweets.
>>314611497>Because Mikleo can be replaced as a sublord, just as any other seraphBut they aren't because unlike Rose what makes them relevant is their relation to the plot. While Rose herself has no relevance to the plot but is a party member solely because she's the only human who can be one. >And that was just Mikleo's insecurities talkingWell that's the whole point of the "True companion" subplot. It's meant to be Mikleo being insecure. That's why the one who brings it up is Mikleo and the seraph from Elysia.>As a plot device that moves absolutely nothing about the story on his own? I guess.Isn't that true for Sorey as well? Mikleo's story is also Sorey's and Sorey's story is also Mikleo. They were literally created to be a set. We're not meant to look at them as separate characters but rather just as one character.>Context?Tales of Asteria, Light of the Guidance and the Crystal was a half retelling of Zestiria but with Vaan as the main villain.
Oh boy, this bit gives me Phantasia vibes. I'm glad that Rays convinced me to move Slayers to the top of my watch list.
>>314612319Oh absolutely there's western fans that defend Zestiria to the death and eveyone saying anything negative about their game is a toxic idiot that doesn't understand the deep Arthurian references and whatnot, they've died down but back when they were all still on Tumblr the essays were hilarious.
>>314613857Calling it Arthurian is an insult to all the britfags.
>>314613857Zestiria has a lot of problems it's biggest being that it's hack of a writer didn't understand that he needed to make it character driven.
>>314612989>what makes them relevant is their relation to the plot.>Edna has absolutely no relation to the plot whatsoever, she is token dirt seraph>Zaveid's weapon is more relevant to the plot than Zaveid is>Dezel is a temp substitute wind seraph>Lailah is the only one who literally cannot be removed, as she is the prime lord who makes Sorey the ShepherdBesides Lailah, I'm not seeing the relevance they have over Rose, who is still the only one capable of being Sorey's squire and thus >Isn't that true for Sorey as well? Mikleo's story is also Sorey's and Sorey's story is also Mikleo. That's the intention, but the execution leaves much to be desired. Because if that was the case, Mikleo would've grew alongside Sorey, but he does not. Instead, he remains stagnant at his side, supporting Sorey while he has to face the reality of mercy killing. Even them killing Gramps at the end is Mikleo supporting Sorey so HE does not have to be alone in killing him, and less because he has his own epiphany or development about mercy killing.>Tales of Asteria, Light of the Guidance and the Crystal was a half retelling of Zestiria but with Vaan as the main villainNever read it, but I'll take your word for it
>>314615809>>Edna has absolutely no relation to the plot whatsoever, she is token dirt seraphEdna is the younger sister to Eizen who is the first dragon we see and was the sublord for the shepherd that failed his mission resulting in Mao losing his influence over Glenwood. Her story was meant to show that dragons couldn't be saved, and learning about what happened to her brother.>Zaveid's weapon is more relevant to the plot than Zaveid isZaveid was likely with the shepherd when it happened, he implies that he's been a sublord before. >Dezel is a temp substitute wind seraphTrue, but then again he was the only seraph that had the same issue as Eizen.Mikleo is the reason why the plot is even happening at all. Like i said all of the seraph have a connection to the plot and/or lore which is why they are in the team only Dezel you can say is replaceable.>That's the intention, but the execution leaves much to be desired. Because if that was the case, Mikleo would've grew alongside Sorey, but he does not.But that's because Mikleo literally got his character arc gutted but then again so did most of the Zestiria characters.>Never read it, but I'll take your word for it has two parts the first one with Sorey and the second with Velvet.
>>314617883>her story was meant to show that dragons couldn't be saved, and learning about what happened to her brother.And that's entirely shoved into a subquest at the end of the game, never so much as developed further in the story. Edna is comedy relief filler.>Zaveid was likely with the shepherd when it happened, he implies that he's been a sublord before.Ok? Nothing about that affects Sorey's journey but the gun. We're talking about how important the character roles are to Sorey's endgame and the only character who is 10000% essential is Lailah, in my opinion.>But that's because Mikleo literally got his character arc gutted but then again so did most of the Zestiria characters.Agreed.
>>314617883>Mao losing his influence over Glenwood.
Edna is the Magilou of Zestiria
>>314619336What is that supposed to mean? That they're both flat?
>>314619458Smug comedic character with questionable age.The only difference is Edna is a loli while Magilou is flattie
Can this thread do something else other than have the same walls of text arguments about Zesty every single thread? Like do you not get tired of repeating yourself? It's literally every thread sometimes multiple times in the same thread depending on how long it lasts
>>314619789Zestiria is the most accessible game besides Symphonia. Bamco needs to port more Tales games on PC.
>>314620249>Zestiria is on PS3, PS4, and Steam>Vesperia is on 360, PS3, PS4, Switch, and Steam
>>314620459>>314619789I recently finished Vesperia and while I was playing it I talked about it.but now that I'm done with it... not much to go into it anymore.except fuck that fucking snowboarding minigame, last thing I'd really need to complete aside from the speed run and low level challenge achievements but since I hate that snowboarding game so much I'm not even gonna bother.
Maybe if you guys played Rays, you would have different things to talk about
>>314620459Vesperia is Grind : The Game
>>314620775There's a snowboarding minigame? Is it something exclusive to PS3/DE?
I'm sorry I can't compete with the Edna autists though
>>314620937yesit's repede snowboarding time trials for the christmas costume titles they added.
>>314620867I don't play Rays, but I love following JP Rays players on Twitter. My favorite is a housewife who adores Legendia.
>>314621213SOMEONE PLEASE COMMISSION SOMEONE TO MAKE NORMA BLENDER PORN AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>314621485You should commission it.
What is /tog/'s opinion on Phantasia? Just finished and I have to say I'm impressed, was not expecting this level of charm from such an old game. Suzu aside I really liked the cast and thought they all had great individual moments across the game, might just be up there among my favorite casts.
>>314621703I love Phantasia. I just replayed it recently. It's got a solid cast and nostalgic soundtrack for me. I think it's incredible how poignant the hardships of the characters are, despite the limitations of the voice acting and visuals. Cress and Mint make one of my favorite hero+heroine duos.
>>314619336More like Magilou is the Edna of B. Same "shoved character depth to sidequests" deal too. Of the two, I prefer Hagilou because she got a memorable emotional scene in the main story, Edna didn't.
>>314621703don't think it's all that greati like all the other pre-team merge mothership games better than phantasia, except maybe for destiny 2
>>314622982My dick prefer Edna though
>>314621703One of my favorite 16 bit games
>>314598776Oh good, someone found my pic useful.[/spoilerModel swapping. How well it works depends on the game, and I imagine it also depends on whether or not the characters share the same skeleton and how animation data is stored. At the very least, G, X, Z, and B let any party member use another party member's model with practically no issues.
>>314623268How do you unlock it? When I google "model swapping" I get unofficial mods and shit.
>>314623507It's not an official feature, if that's what you're thinking. You can use save edits or Cheat Engine for swapping playable character models, but swapping to NPC models requires Cheat Engine. Xillia 2 does officialy have it as rewards in the post-game dungeon, but it doesn't let you swap to party member models. Graces f also has something similar, but that's less of a swap and more a full character change. Asbel swapping to Richard isn't Richard using Asbel artes, but a Richard using Richard artes.
>>314624186>Xillia 2 does officialy have it as rewards in the post-game dungeonThis is what was tripping me up. I knew it was legit in X2, so I figured it was for Z and B as well. Thanks for clearing it up.
>>314618352>Ok? Nothing about that affects Sorey's journey but the gun. We'reAnon is the reason why Sorey has to go on a journey to begin with. In not talking about their importance to Sorey I'm talking about their importance to the game's plot.
>>314621012How the fuck does anyone like Zagi.
Characters you never get the appeal of I'll start. Never found Yuri interesting at all.
>>314625425Yuri for me as well. Literally everyone else in his party is more interesting than him.
>>314625425Mikleo. I tried really hard to like him too, but he just doesn't do it for me.
>>314626642Elaborate on this one a little for a curious EOP. Does she seem popular among nips? Is there something in particular you dislike about her?
>>314623132God i want to fuck her so bad
>>314625049never said I liked him, was just a funny screenshot of him
>>314626836>Does she seem popular among nips?judging by how frequently i see people using her MAs and titles in rays, yesbesides, she was first place in that one girls only poll that always gets posted here>Is there something in particular you dislike about her?kinda, reala is cute and i liked it whenever she slapped kyle's shit, but she's also extremely bland and lacking in personalityi'll never understand why she's so popular
>>314626759Take that back, I understand each of these characters appeals but I consider their popularity to be pretty much meme tier (based on coom or in Alishafag case, longterm cope)
>>314625425Kind of a hard question since on some level I can get why someone would like a character, but as far as popular characters probably Asbel.>all these YurisVesperia's lack of teeth when exploring gray morality really dulled him, despite him being one of my favorite protags.
>>314625049I love Zagi, he's an unrepentant retard and every time he showed up to fuck shit up he lifted my spirits. There's nothing to him, he's a one trick pony but his one joke always landed with me.
>>314619789Zestiria is full of easy to poke at holes, and berzestiria are the newest games so the rage is fresh one everyone's mind.
>>314613195Slayers is a great series and though I wasn't expecting a collab with it I'm glad it happened. Slayers and Phantasia did come out around the same time after all.
>>314627429That poll was just for a wallpaper and it didn't include girls that already got one.
>>314627741How do you feel about this unrepentant retard?
>>314625425literally everyone in Berseria
>>314629041You don't like Eizen at all?
>>314629119I don't hate the guy, but I don't get the hype. He's a lot more popular than I would personally rank him.
>>314628786>girls that already got one.such as?
>>314621703SOULBut honestly speaking it's still one of my favorite Tales, if not my top favorite in the series. I really need to replay it to see if it actually ranks 1st for me, especially since it was the first game I played in the series. I kind of doubt it though and even if I reply and realize I like another Tales game more that still won't change that its the game my overall best boy/fav character comes from.
>>314628963I like him, but he had more going on to him than Zagi and they sideline him too much, I want an Ivar one volume manga or something, tell me about his life. Him not liking Jude wasn't a particularly good joke after maybe half the game, Jude has done nothing but help Milla, it just doesn't make sense. But also, brown skin and white hair is perfect design so I have an extra layer of bias.
I wish more people would give the Super Nintendo version of Phantasia a chance. The translation is trash but it's a beautiful game and the SNES sound is worth experiencing.
>>314625425Magilou. I understand her appeal to an extent but personally so far I just don't feel anything for her.
>>314630053Magilou was my least favorite Berseria. It was discussed earlier, but she's like Edna where you either find her "jokes" entertaining, you coom to her or you don't give a fuck because alot of her character is locked behind sidequests and guidebook lore
>>314629759>it just doesn't make sense.Ivar spent his whole life being Milla's number one companion and caretaker aside from The Four, and Milla never really bonded with him. Jude shows up and instantly takes his place and gets more of Milla's attention and affection. Jude and Ivar both love her too. Ivar's frustration with Jude should make sense even if it's irrational.
>>314630005I prefer the SNES soundtrack for sure, but the visuals and skits of the PSX version make it the superior experience for me. I didn't really love Phantasia until I played it with a proper translation and saw the skits.
>>314629216The prettiest girls in the series: Mikleo and Sorey.
>>314630206Makes sense, though ironically Edna's one of the few things I liked in Zestiria. She still wouldn't rank that highly for me when compared with all the other characters from the series though, especially when her home game left too much to be desired for.
>>314625425Mikleo and Sorey, must be a Fujo thing>>314625707>>314626067>>314626256He's fun to play and he's a change from the standard white knight JRPG protagonist.He's also got a sword style that involves a lot of unorthodox punches and kicks, which looks cool and there's actually a skit where Flynn calls him out on throwing in unnecessary punches and kicks into imperial knight combat moves like Dragon Swarm and Tiger Blade.IDK, I just think it's cool to have a batman or robin hood protagonist sometimes.
>>314630005I loved the SNES translation, I need to actually play through the game on PSX, but I hear the translation isn't as campy
>>314631074>I loved the SNES fanfiction*If you want a "campy translation", the Phantasian Productions patch aimed to provide that with a style similar to the official loalizations. The Absolute Zero/Gemini translation is the one most faithful to the JP script.
>>314631074It's pretty bad I just went over it again. They've renamed towns, npcs and shops into very weird things. They've also added lines and lore that never existed too. PSX version's camp is condensed into Chester and I think they did a pretty good job.>>314630520The only sprite work I personally find bad is the main party sprites. Also Mint's voice is horrible.
>>314631339well I mean official translations would have Arche drinking "milk" instead of ale, and I think in the GBA instead of being drunk and passing out and dreaming about fucking Cress, she was complaining about her stomach hurting from drinking too much milk. That shit is just stupid.
>>314631503That doesn't have anything to do with the PSX versions. I haven't played the Phantasian Productions patch, but one of their sample images is of a Gnomelette talking with the same speech patterns as the Gnomelettes in localized Symphonia.
>>314631503Not familiar with the GBA script, but the original intent of the scene is a subtle peak into a girl's crush kind of scene where she murmurs "Oh we shouldn't..." Klarth's comments is along the lines of a more politely worded "Mint is the girl you marry, Arche is the fun one you goof off with."
>>314631339>>314631503That and.. I'm less concerned about it being faithful to a JP script than I am it just being entertaining. I don't play tales games BECAUSE they're Japanese I play them DESPITE them being Japanese.But I do hate censorship that often goes into localization.
>>314631684I appreciate good localization myself. I don't care for shit like DeJap's work on Phantasia.
>>314631684I can agree to that, I find literal translations truly boring. I think I played the Absolute Zero version because it was a little boring, but it is nice to have a serious version of the script available.
>>314631642tbqh I think I prefer lewd Arche better.That's a big part of why I like Arche, was because she was lewd, making suggestions of having a sailor take her below deck and tying her up, and being afraid to be used to meet the unicorn because she's not a virgin, and FUCKS LIKE A TIGER.
>>314631893She is lewd, it's just not in the way DeJap did it.
>>314631837yeah, I suppose it is nice to know the original intent sometimes, but honestly, to know that Arche being lewd was just Dejap fucking around and wasn't really part of her character is pretty disappointing.
>>314631893The real Arche is still a bit lewd and can't face the unicorn because she's thinks she's not pure. You can like DeJap Arche if you want, but you're basically liking a fanfic where she's made into a whore.
>>314631992sometimes I like english localizations rather than literal translations because they can go more off the deep end with a concept where the Japanese often tone it down.I recently watched Highschool DxD and I compared the dub to the sub... the sub, it's just oppai oppai oppai oppai, never use a word for tits other than oppai, and never refer to anything sexual other than touching oppai.The Dub.. they call them tits, jugs, melons, sweaterstuffers, etcetc, they vary it up and the boys talk more like high school perverts in a locker room, talking about getting poon, not just looking at boobs.makes me wonder how are Japanese the kinds of pervs that make rape hentai when their "locker room language" is so plain and uninspired.
also speaking of DxD.. Edna was basically Koneko, wasn't she
>>314632331The two cases aren't the same. Localizations are supposed to impart the intent of the original work to a new audience. People who speak a different language and are familiar with different cultural nuances are supposed to get as close to the same effect/experience from the work as the original audience did with their own language/culture. What you find "plain and uninspired" may be what JP audiences find relatable or enjoyable.With ToP, the JP script wasn't written for players to take away that Arche is some kind of sex fiend. It wasn't a matter of trying to tone anything down.
>>314629216Assume that any main heroine not on the poll results already got one.
>>314632937I don't care about Japan or Japanese people very much. I'll watch anime or play japanese games but not because they're Japanese. I couldn't care less about where it's from or what cultural nuances are there.To me, it's just an RPG game, to others, they see it as some sort of window into Japanese culture that appeals to them.But considering that Phantasia, along with a LOT of other Japanese media, is really more Japan's fascination with western culture and mythology rather than a game exploring actual Japanese culture, I don't think it's a good window into Japanese culture in the first place.At best it's a Japanese lens viewing western folklore and mythology..
>>314633668A person does not need to care about the country of any media's origin in order to value good localization.It sounds like your opinion is, "I don't care about the intent or quality of the original work, so long as I enjoy the version of it I get". You are not concerned with experiencing media in a way that the creator intended or with having a similar experience with that media as the original audience did. That's alright. You don't need an understanding of localization to feel that way.
>>314635426that's why I read fanfiction about Yuri fucking every girl in Vesperia
>>314633540>Assume that girls like Rubia and Iria won out before Tear, Sophie, Milla and Velvet.This is the stupidest assumption I've seen all thread.
>>314635601Post the poll. I would have sworn that Sophie, Milla, and Velvet were all missing from it.
I thought everyone likes Yuri.Why is he unappealing?
>>314635938Reala looks the most like a generic japanese girl. Prime self insert bait.
>>314635938Some maniac must have botted.>>314635957He's boring.
>>314635957His only interesting parts are his hair and grey morality. Other than that, he's one of the flattest characters in the series, and it doesn't help that he's never really challenged, only ever facing absolute black or white, not another grey. He undoubtedly makes a cool impression, but it never goes anywhere after that. Also his Savage Wolf Fury is the epitome of everything wrong with Team Symphonia mystic artes.
>>314636595>Savage Wolf Fury is the epitome of everything wrong with Team Symphonia mystic artesDo you hate the high hit count, shitty animation, or what?
>>314636727No, those are fine-ish. It's just dragged out for way too long and lacks any oomph. Artorius's version compacts it while keeping the same idea intact, and Asbel's Lunar Requiem is pretty much a straight upgrade.
Sunday! Reminders! You know the deal by now I'm sure>Do your arena matches, closes early so don't forget about it>Weekly quests>Cap your medals
>>314637243I've never paid that much attention to MAs in any game, so I'm always a little surprised that there are people who remember them so well and they show up as a bullet point on surveys for things people like. Which MAs are your favorite, MAnon?
>>314637302>tfw I got to spend my gold medals this week so it will be several weeks before I get to spend them againMedal cap increase, please
Please kill Melanbro1cf48f53
>>314635957I just find him too boring to like.
>>314637619I've got ya.
>>314635957Honestly, you could remove Yuri out of the story and nothing would've changed.
>>314635957He's different from the usual JRPG MC mold but that's about it. His characterization is already done when Vesperia started. (Most of his characterization was at first strike) so his post-development was wasted potential.
>>314637951>Estelle runs off to find Flynn>get kidnapped and used by banditsnoo....
>>314637369Those that are short and to the point. Not necessarily my top 3, but these might give you an idea of the kind of MAs I like.>Zestiria's Zero Dissolver>Absolute Fist>Instant Valse
I like my MAs to take a long ass time so Crestoria OC's are consistently good.
What are the chances that NONE of the xmas units are Dirt... haha....
>>314638574Sorey will be earth and he'll be actually good DPS so all the esportstards will have to roll him.
>>314638335>Absolute FistThis one is pretty great.
>>314638635That would be hilarious
>>314639192Oh fuck, they're all so cute.
>>314639192Looks like Milla will be a healer.
>>314639192This is the moment when Crestoria Officially dead. No one will get what they want.
>>314639594Don't say that, I most certainly will 3 way banner fags will get BTFO'd though
Post Tales character who's O F F I C I A L L Y isnt a virgin.I only knew Rutee and Raine.
>we can get everything leaked but the elementsThat is just very weird
>>314639737Gall and Will. Cheria canonically has sex post-Graces.
>>314639192Can Mikleo be even more of a homosexual? Get a character beyond Sorey's onahole.
>>314639725>3 way banner fags will get BTFO'd thoughI want all three, but I'll be fine if I only get one or two.
>>314640040Atleast they included Edna and Lailah in there to make it less blatantly gay and more wholesome
>>314639192>Santa Sorey gets a Sleigh>the cute accessories with MeeboFinally, how adorable.Thank god this was the only seasonal units they were datamined to have so I have no regrets. It's all or nothing and I'm out of here.
>>314639192>Arche and SophieDamn those are cute. I really don't want to be playing Crestoria next month though.
Finally did my guaranteed 3 SSR pull and got dupe Yuna (used it to awaken her), Sorey (nice!) and Jude. My wind and light teams are looking busted. That's nice. Now I am saving all gems for Orwin, unless something unexpected like Julius comes first. Orwin should be Earth, so that's great for me.
>>314640564faggotry is mental illness
>>314639192Bros I'm not prepared for the timeline where I fail to get Arche
>>314640895It's a good thing that what Sorey and Mikleo have is not faggotry, but pure unconditional love that transcends time and space
>>314641125Pure love is NOT the same as STD ridden faggotry. I won't take this slander.Sorey and Mikleo is untouched by mortal qualms like sexual and carnal lust
>>314639192These are all good! What the fuck! Why is this game such a fucking failure with good graphics?
>>314641536>all these wasted models of old Tales charactersI'd be so offended if I were an oldfag. They should've just put these in Rays
>>314641720I'm that offended oldfag
>>314641720Since both are using Unity engine. Its possible for bamco to put this up on Rays once Crestoria reaches its inevitable end.
>>314642154>once Crestoria reaches its inevitable end.Something tells me Bamco will just drag its corpse, I don't see its termination happening unless you mean Global.
>>314639192Healer Milla will be interesting, bit disappointed that I probably will never use her if I pull her since I don't use healers very often. Her outfit is so nice though
>>314641785>tfw literally meLuckily I've already used up all my gleams when quitting.Unless it turns out Arche is good, then I'll just reinstall and pay up a few hundred bucks to get her... as if.
>>314642290Yeah, most people have weened off of healers at this point, and even if you needed heals, J. Zelos, M. Kohaku and Norma provide more than enough while offering high-end support. Hopefully one of her artes is at least a hitgen or buff, or maybe there are buffs attached to her MA. And that she's Water element, too, since Water has no healers/support.
>>314642917I don't even use artes these days, at least not outside of pvp. Auto with artes off actually gives me better results in raids. Hitgen or big damage MAs are all I care about now since raids die too fast.
>>314642292You can always reroll for whatever you want most.
How much apologems we got if they ever fixed the world chat room
>>31464386750 GleamiesDon't spend it all in one place!
>>314630290You're right, it's been a while. I think it was just the PHONEY thing that became repetitive, something else about him felt stagnated but I'm not quite sure if they had ignored something they had hinted at or I was just expecting too much out of a background character.
The next time you feel like shitting on Crestoria or Rays, remember that you would have creamed your pants off if they had released ten years ago. They are pretty much superior versions of the World games, at least Rays. Be grateful for what you have.
>>314646916If they had released ten years ago, they wouldn't be on this kind of technology let alone model quality.
>>314647016Exactly, that's one of the points I was trying to make.
Bazonguys has 5 more spots open again, if anyone is looking for an active guild to join. Keep in mind our members need to donate the max amount of gald + items daily. Respond with your ID so we can invite you.
>>314648613>5 spotsgoddamnit, the game is dead.
>>314649617Stay positive bro, it also means 25 daily actives.
>>314640220>No ZaveidThis is kinda sad
>>314650696I don't know anon, I'm one of these 25 and the only thing I've been doing recently is log in to donate and auto arena. I'm not even bothering doing dailies because they're a pain.
Is that Rutee anon from /v/ still around?
>>314648613Starting to get to the point where we should just shitcan talesgen and join bazonguys if you have that kind of space. We're still a few too many but after the incoming christmas massacre then maybe we can make it work without leaving anybody behind...
I'm about 6 hours into Berseria and still don't understand the combat. I'm playing as velvet and she doesnt seem to do much when I press buttons but then I just press RT and she does a load of flashy shit I don't understand, big combos, moves I've never seen before and then the enemy dies. Is that how this game works? I am even playing on hard and it seems hilariously easy, just press RT and everything dies, and you are also invincible.
>>314652405It would make sense to have everyone from /tog/ in one guild, so yes I'm up for it.
>>314653024We're down to 8 actives now apparently so maybe we can merge quicker than expected. I'll stay in the guild until we can fully dissolve it without leaving anyone behind but any talesgen member who'd like to switch early can leave whenever they feel like it
>>314578098I can hold onto the hope that she will get an SSR before they nuke the servers.
Happy Birthday Jade
>>314652959Play as anyone BUT velvet if you wish for some sort of variety or fun. She is brain dead
sex with sorey...
>>314655847Is there a big list anywhere of all the known birthdates in the series?
>>314650995Maybe someone still thought it would be spoilery if Zavied was there instead of Dezel.
>>314655624Are you a real fan of Innocence R, or a secondary?
>>314638635would be mad, not for esports but because i hate earth and hope hes light/water/literally anything but fire and earth
>>314666472Wouldn't you hate Earth less if it didn't suck?
>>314666570i would hate earth less if i wasnt aware somehow by schizophrenic power that new years luke will somehow be earth and still suck like veigue and whoever else is in that element besides cress. i miss the earth barbatos rumor, i think
>>314666771I wish there were reliable element leaks to save you from yourself, schizoanon.
>>314667257thanks anon. i hope you get your christmas unit you want
>>314667257We'd know elements right away if we got more skill/artes leaks, since they always list the correct element. We knew Velvet/Zelos alts quite a bit before their banner, because their skills directly said Fire and Dark units, and skills have yet to be misleading unlike elemental icons. This was even when Zelos had that "Baki the Grappler" placeholder, but his JP leak still had the correct skill text. All we do know right now is that at least two of them have to match the remaining event elements: Water, Earth and Dark. And I dunno if Dark is a safe bet, since it's not very Christmas-y, but who knows with these devs.
>>314668126>"Baki the Grappler" placeholderKek. I'm glad that the shitty placeholders have immortalized "Conway" in my heart.
>>314668126>at least two of them have to match the remaining event elements: Water, Earth and DarkWe don't have info on the Christmas events yet, as far as I've seen. If you've got secret club stuff, share it with the class. If you're following a supposed pattern, remember that there is no pattern.
How do you guys know this Milla will be a healer? Her lack of a proper weapon?
>>314668126theres at least 2 christmas events in the files, so dark might be a option. i dont know if events rotate though>>314668686i dont think shes attacking anyone directly in her mystic arte
>>314668686Her MA looks like a healing MA.
>>314668684oh i see what he means actually i had to look it up thoughthe ssr and sr stones in events correlate to the banner elements - we knew this already when zelos and sophie leaked. however the sr and the ssr stone are on different "rotations" in that the sr stone can be what the previous ssr stone was (summer treasure hunt's ssr is water, late summer sunflowers sr being water) so theres really no rhyme or reason to the whole thing
>>314668684There's a pretty strong pattern for events, where the first 6 were all different elements, and the SSR stone always matched a banner character. We're on the second cycle, and the pattern is even further enforced by the materials and VH orbs matching the elements. It would be really odd to double up on the elements now, especially when they try to balance everything accordingly. Even the characters themselves are balanced around elemental spread, and we are long overdue for a water element unit. Nothing is certain, but the pattern is highly noticable.
>>314669580The Meakyu pouch is a NY thing, not Xmas
>>314671923so switch the food and the meakyu pouch in your head anon
>>314668686no enemy in the animation
>>314672037I looks like each event will have three currency.
>>314673226Seems likely. Dual currency + pop item is working pretty well, and it's kind of unfair when an event doesn't have it, since it cuts the raid mat loot pool in half. Plus, 3 extra SR tickets, so I'd much prefer dual currency to stay. Only question is the date of events. We might get something weird like Halloween, where the character banner was early October, and the event was mid-October. So, maybe Sorey/Mikleo banner won't be attached to the Christmas event. Possibly for the girls as well.
>>314673226why would they switch to having 3 currencies when>theres no other event currencies datamined>theres 3 events coming up for 3 holiday banners>every other event has 2>this is a granblue clone and granblue uses 2 currencies
>>314674563wait disregard me i am a retard its the raid open mat
>>314674563>theres 3 events coming up for 3 holiday bannersFriendly reminder that Halloween Estelle and Asbel did not have a Halloween event.
AHHH JUST LEAK THE JULIUS BANNER ALREADY YOU FUCKERS
>>314674826Oh, I forgot about the other set of Christmas currency.
>>314653469>only 8I didn't realize it was that bad. I guess I should join bazonguys.
>>314681686You'll notice the difference in Guild Point acquisition if you join Bazonguys.
>>314681826Speaking of donating how many people do the bare minimum compared to donating above 3k in Bazonguys? We had a decent amount of people who did it in Talesgen so our exp gain was decent despite our lack of members
>>314682585We're all donating the full amount in bazonguys
>>314683086Everyone donates 3400+gald? Didn't expect everyone to know about the trick which is why I asked.
>>314683562Not sure about the others but I've been donating Dragonblood + small exp potions + princessia since forever
>>314683740Yeah that's the easy way to do it, I don't think anyone has mentioned it in a while so it's fully possible people don't know about it. Just wanted to bring it up again just in case.
Ah... imagine getting mating pressed by Sorey (physically 17, biologically 717)
>>314685316>biologically 717I too enjoy being mating pressed by a dusty corpses.
>>314689612His body never aged in his slumber, he's very fresh and his dick probably didn't even need washing
Three weeks left of the Extreme Difficulty Transcendent Battle. I hope it gets immediately replaced with a new one.
So I only just now got my second and third Judas, if I want to start building a grid is it better to ascend the first or get them all to lv40 first?
>>314694542Ascend first. A grid full of level 40s is worthless. You can use them as part of makeshift grid with other stones if you ascend first.
is Radiant Mythology 1 worth playing?
>>314694920Cool. Time to grind forever then.
>>314695612Sure, if you're interested in the skits mostly, or just want to experience a RM game. It's not especially fun outside of seeing familiar characters, imo. PSP games are easy to emulate, so you can give a try risk free.
>>314692048>still haven't beaten lvl2+Fuck this Judas2win game, I'm quitting after xmas anyway
>>314696956Quit now, you insufferable whiner.
>>314697508Nah, I have too many gleams left for Milla and ArcheAlso>defending a shit gameSounds nice
>>314698064>implying All I did was tell you to quit, retard.
>>314698325Well I'm not, but the game is still shit.
Will Crestoria get Link characters?
Anyone got monthly revenue stats?
where should i start? and are these games for me if i dont reallyt like action rpgs> vesperia looks kewl
>>314699830Start with Phantasia or Destiny
>>314700509i only play games on steam
http://game-i.daa.jp/Estimated ~113 million so far this month, down 100 ranks from last. Sasuga Raven and Alisha
>>314701478nah mate im a working dude i dont want to play them all, i should have ratehr asked the essential games i suppose
>>314700989Nips in the comments saying they doubt they'll even make 180 by the end of the month, let alone 200 mil
>>314700989Rays is officially beating Crestoria as of this month, congrats
>>314700989look at that drop after the banner
>>314703103The absolute state of Cucktoria
>>314698881Probably not any time soon. Rays got Link characters before it got all mainline playable characters though.
>>314612319>the more I played others, the more I realized how basic it was....I think that's slowly happening to me with Vesperia it's really hard to just deny that Vesperia's combat getting fun 80 hours in is defendable in any way. But playing Xillia and Graces and Hearts (especially the latter which is basically Vesperia's combat style.) which were fun to play out of the first cutscene makes you realize how bad it is.
>Graces Ice Mountain Bull>Kills everyone with charge because AI won't move>Solo it easy with AsbelAbsolute trash design.
>>314706261Yeah, I dropped Vesperia for several months because of the gameplay. It has a weird difficulty curve right out the gate too. I had to play as Repede to get through most shit
>>314706840Yeah, Gattsuo the infamous noobgate. Mae easier by levelling Rita's Fire as much as possible asap and spamming it. Great system.
>>314706261I always thought it was bizarre that so many people praised Vesperia for the combat, but now it occurs to me that most of them probably only played the game once and their impression of the combat is what they had at endgame.
>>314709456And people posting those extremely disingenuous combo vids of Judith air styling or some shit. Fact is for me, even endgame Vesperia combat is nowhere near as fun as even early game Hearts combat, so it doesn't even matter anymore to me which part of Vesperia we use to discuss its combat.
>>314709775>combo vids of Judith air styling or some shitThe worst part is that the game discourages you from even getting to that point. She melts through her TP so fucking fast which discourages arte usage, but you need to grind arte usage to even enable some of her aerial combos.
how playable is RM3 with the menu patch?
>>314685316This but unironically
>>314713421Go to sleep, Mikleo
I love the victory quote where Mikleo tries to shit stir between Edna and Rose and they both turn on him
>>314653469>>314681686Oof it really came down to that huh? We had a good run TG. Guess I'll start to keep an eye out for BG recruit, though I've been less active the past month myself>>314683740I've moved on from Princessias to lv3 rainbow skill books since I keep getting them from affinity
>>314398018Is this going to be announced tomorrow?
>>314700989>Ossan will carry the banner guys!lmao pathetic, it's obvious the game is beyond saving when even Colette/Mikleo banner flopped
>>314721968The real question was what was in August that made people whale so much? Was it just the newness of the game? I think it was Summer Yuri
New bread >>314725468
>>314721968Not their fault that ossanfags aren't lucklets