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105 M3 when?
>>301612019BEADY EYESANGLO LIES
How am I supposed to fight anybody with the Me410? the Fw190 is better in all aspects
>>301611504I'm always on your teamyou should thank me for keeping the skies clear of the big bad thunderbolts that make you cry and piss and shit
L7 M3 when?
>>301612942What would I lose of my ally gets a go cart with APDS and HEATFS?
>12K RP till F-84G>still will not have the SL for it, to crew it and buy the F-84BWhy do things that make SL cost so much SL? are normal bombers (B-17’s) better then the panthers HVAR’s for SL? how about the panthers(-5’s) 6 500lb bombs VS 6 HVARs for SL? Is base breaking with the P-47 better then the panther airfield runs for SL? I have tanks that could get SL but they’re tedious to play and I often get )))) in them
What are the differences between the shitfire Mk.Ia and Mk.IIa?
>>301613702Stats wise or the actual construction?
>>301613574my dude the rocket grinding is a function of how many hits you get, that's why the planes with +100 mighty mouses do it. HVARs blow at it. if you can't carry more than 60 rockets just use the bombsand if you're grinding Sim for SL focus on shooting down planes, even if they're the shitty airfield CAP. The commies on Vietnam and Afghanistan are usually glitched and will sit on the runway or slowly drive off the front. swoop in and strafe them for fat stacks; that's how I spaded my panthers and cougar
>>301614101I’ll try strafing bots on viet and Afghanistan in my jets
>last enemy is a 264>just me and a friendly Stirling>he asks if I can put off killing the bomber so he can bomb the enemy base>dude has fucking 200 score, 1 ground kill>just dive on the 264 and saw his wing off>"go fuck yourself eh">tell him to stop playing bombersanyone else dab on bomberniggers recently?
>>301614138Mk II has a better engine, but worse WEP than the Mk IDoesn't sound great but early spits tend to cook off pretty easily
>>301614450historically I think it had a new propeller too but I have no idea if anton)))) modeled it
>shits on your teamatesItaly will always be the best nation
>>301614101Sorry if I’m late to ask but do you have any tips for bot spawns? Do they respawn at the Asami AF or is it random?
>>301615465>hits you once>bankrupts your sl balance
>the T-62 and T-64A had APFSDS before the T-54 even had APDS
Why does the F4U-4B cost 50K SL in Sin?
>>301615470the CAP spawns on the airfield it's supposed to cover. it takes off and circles up to 3500m and stays there until it crashes or is shot down. after some amount of time it respawns on the runway and repeats.also, leave the surveillance bot planes alone; they scout bases and then when they're finished a group of bombers will spawn and attack that base. be careful not to ram the bombers, they're deceptively slow.if you win the air capture point event, a ground battle at that sector will occur with your team attacking; if you lose the enemy will be attacking. sometimes a group of attackers will come in, but to my knowledge/experience it's inconsistent. sometimes neither team has attackers come to the battle, other times both teams will have attackers fighting over the same shit
What the fuck is wrong with germ players at 5.7?They have some amazing planes yet the teams are absolute dogshit.
>faster enemy that also turns better than me on my 6wat do
>>301616083Ju 288C bites them just like everyone else’s bombers. Only it’s harder as it’s a fast premium bomber that people like to deny kills with
>>301616176Accept death.Or try to be as annoying as possible and waste his time as much as possible and hope a teammate helps.
>>301615739Because there was no need for a mostly outdated tank to have that.
>>301616176take him down to the deck to bleed his energy and crash to deny him the killother than that try taking him to a teammate and pray it isn't a typical braindead retard
>>301616205GOD I CAN'T STAND AA NIGGERS THAT CAN SHOOT OFF THE GUNS OF A HEAVY TANK WITHIN 1 MILLISECOND
>>301616176Crash into the ground to deny the kill.
>>301616331>>301616297I was more looking along the lines of maneuvers
>>301616176Attempt to force an overshoot and disengage once he disengages after overshooting. If he accelerates better than you enough to catch up with you after bleeding speed in the disengage and you have no where to run(like the air field) you're just gonna have to go for the reversal and not disengage after forcing an overshoot. Its hard to say without saying both planes in his scenario as acceleration, roll rate, energy retention and energy bleed make up a big part of what i decide to do against an enemy
>>301616342based schizo poster
>>301616439He's faster and turns better, no maneuver is going to save you.
>>301616439if you can out-roll him you can scissor and hope he fucks up, I guess
>>301616439If you know how, stall him with rolling scissorsIf he's faster, he'll overshoot and you can reverse himEven if you can't pull one it buys time for a team mate to come save you
>>301616313It shouldve had APDS before it was outdated. 20 years before it was outdated
>>301616569i've been fucked up the ass by some level 100 dudes in heavy fighters while I was in a fighter because they knew how to fly
>>301616667Sorry, probably meT. Loves heavy fighters, especially the jap ones and american ones
is there anything more boring than camping airspawn?
>>301616667No, you got fucked in the ass because you didn't know how to fly. 90% you were just being impatient.
>>301616816overshoot -> deflection shot demolishes if you have 8xcannons
>>301616727the worst part is that you fuckers will bait people in thinking you're an easy kill so I won't care im making mistakes until its too late
>>301616754Playing prop air realistic battles
>>301617231>side climb for 10 minutes>either your team has won or they got raped so you cant even recover
>>301617231>>301617429stay salty fags
>>301616754clicking on arkaden kids with the third person camera while being literally out of sight behind a hill in the Brummbar.
>>3016169101) don't miss your gun runif you fuck that up2) don't go in too fast and overshootif you have enough of a speed advantage3) zoom awayif you don't 4) assess what his weakness is and play to thatbasically every heavy fighter sucks cock at rolling, so juke him with a (rolling) scissor
>tfw a pz4 gun will bounce a Sherman hull if angled or on a slope
>>301617779oh no how terrible
>>301617779all m4s to 10.7 when?
>>301617779If it's not a jumbo, then you should have shot the turret.
>>301617824the sherman can point n click your turret
Is anyone else planning to use their AU-1's for this event?>three individually launched tiny tims>six 500lb bombs dropped in pairsI can't wait.
>>301616754driving a slow tank on CC only to get insta-gibbed by a bomber
>try to help someone>game crash
>>301617913my word, how awful
>>301618000AU-1 in French tech tree when?
>>301618126This image is the perfect summation of the vodkanigger's condition
>>301618173baguettes have a better one
>>301618234t. jose johnson rodriguez
>>301618234holy mother of cope
>>301616625It was a 1945 design with a new turret that was accepted into service in 1948. It was replaced by T-62 in 1962.It got an APDS round in 1966.Soviets didn't have an APDS round in 1946.
>>301618360I'm saying they should've made one then as everyone else was doing
>>301618561The states didn't start using L7 till the M60 in 1959.Soviets had a smoothbore dart launcher in service in 1959. In production by 1961.You're failing to realize that people relied on chemical rounds in the 60s, not darts or slugs. Which is why T-64 was designed to protect against 105mm HEAT-FS rounds first, and APDS second.
air rb is really fucking boringjust making sure nobody forgets it
Pitch ideas for how to fix naval1) raise the camera height for all ships so that it doesnt look like youre using a submarine periscope2) make it so destroyers past ~10km cant be automatically detected and targeted 3) more maps with visual cover so that you dont get deleted in your spawn by a Graf Spee 15km away
>>301618864>spawn>die to a Hellcat or R3 who rushed your spawn>spawn again>make it a few hundred meters>die from a bushcamper>spawn again>finally make it to within a few hundred feet of the point>die to someone camping a corner
>there are people ITT who care more about winning than having fun
>>301619031winning = more rp and slmore rp and sl = fun
>>301619031If you're not curbstomping seals at reserves - are you REALLY having fun?
>>301618810The T42 and M47 fired a 90mm APDS. M41 as well. And a gun in 1961 doesnt change not having APDS in the 50s or late 40s
>>301619031What if I find winning fun?
D-Dardo is gonna be in the next patch for sure right? R-right guys?
>>301619146>>301619097>>301619086Me sitting inside a bush killing numb niggers isn't fun. WR is just cope
>leave game because team is getting spawn camped and I don't want to be a pinata>VERY VERY BAD GOY, 7 MINUTE CREW LOCK FOR YOU
>enough people have joined to a sim match that there are no more named bots>told people that I only kill named bots so that they wouldn’t hunt me downWhat do I do?
>>301619114>The T42 and M47 fired a 90mm APDS.The T23 APDS didn't go into production.>M41 as well.Not till later in production.
>>301618946Based on what?
>>301619883do you think you're funny?
What am I in for?I’ll get the SL very soon
>>301620413The best F-84.The problem is - it's still an F-84.
>>301620478>The problem is - it's still an F-84.t. germshit
>>301619847>didn't go into production.And so what it had an APDS, several actually including T32 series ammo and T38. Having ammo ready when needed is having that ammo available. Not having it at all is not having it at all>Not till later in production.is early 50s really later production for you? What does that prove?
>>301618126>90% of the shit is just based on looks/opinions
>>301620607>And so what it had an APDSDeveloped. Not used. Having ammo ready is having that type of round at a warehouse. Not hand-made for trials.
what's the difference between mutt mains and people who watch tranny porn?trick question
Wait, why the fuck is the kikka with boosters 6.7 while the earliest german tree 262 with 30mm's 7.0? And the 262 with rocket boosters 8.0?
>>301621109>kikka with boostersyou mean RATO bottles?and you do realize that the kikka is REALLY slow right?
>>301620924It was fucking trialed thats how you test and develop shells you mongoloid.
>>301620959Rude, I don’t play mutts
the AI AAA is so fucking loud!
>>301621342If we go by that logic - soviets had ERA by 1964.
>>301620924>spends the cost of baseless bullshit deflecting for no reason
Why are there slaves in NA severs?
>>301622101Why are there mutts in EU servers?
>>301622101Ivan is working on his teleportation machine
>feel like flying some planes for once but don't wanna put myself through the tedium torture that is air rb>put a plane in my ground rb lineup for once>guy camping above air spawnteaches me to try to be a casnigger
>23k rp to get usable ATGMs on the shiturn>28 if you get FPE first>92k to thermals
>jag tiger gets to be top dog >teammates don’t know how to deal with him>he just rolls one side till he is spawn campingso many morons
What exactly is going on in this pic?That's not a drop tank right?
>>301623221That’s a drop tank, with bombs and HVARs with a night fighter next to it
>>301623175>handheld nazinigger shit>it's the enemies fault that they can't be penned
>>301622610Why would you need to put out fires on something like a shturm
>Venture I has a 7k repair cost at 2.7
>>301623478planes sometimes ignite you but don't kill
>>301623293My team are the morons and the jagdtiger can be fucked by the anything with 90mm APCR and the M41A1 just fine
>completely open vehicle has a longer reload then a older gun in a turret))))
>>301619927Just camp the airfields and kill humans landing/taking offthe seethe is a good bonus
>>301623643It’s true. I didn’t have those tanks in my lineup so i could only flank
Is there any actual official word on why they won't fix spawn camping? Are they legit subhuman enough that they think it's okay?
So are these summer grinds usually accompanied by premium time discounts? I was thinking of giving gaijin some shekels but I obviously don't wanna shell out if there's some offer coming up.
>>301623930Yes, in fact they love to spawn camp on OF dev streams
>>301623965No sale until november comrade )))
>>301622598>guy camping above air spawnThey deserve rope
>>301623930Imagine letting people camp your spawn
>>301623175>Cocky Tortoise/T95/Maus/Object/Jagdtiger appears bouncing every nigga on the team>bounce his shot in my T-54 and then 1 shot them through the front with heat-fs>crashes his plane when revenge bombing without killing me - thereby wasting all his SPTopkek, never gets old
>>301624082>"Wah! Waaah! I should be allowed to get FREE revenge CAS kills! Don't stop me hitting space bar! This is UNFAIR! Only I should be allowed to kill people who can't fight back!"CASniggers aren't "people" are they?
>>301624058it's boring shit when it's your team spawn camping tooonce a team gets to the point of getting spawncamped the game should be OVER. instead you get a stupid arbitrary timer you have to wait out which also allows retarded developments like turnarounds AFTER that when people doing the spawncamping die and quitif a team gets completely pushed back off every objective and off the map the game should just end right there. i don't know how you would implement this gameplay-wise but it should be the case
>>301624219>bouncing an OBJECT’s shell in a T-54Hmm
>>301624319I’m talking about the object on the is3 hull. It’s the 268 right?
>>301624285Except the spawn campers also kill fighters :^)
>wanted to grind today>just fapped to gay furry porn all day instead fuck
>>301624575Those fighters shoulda done evasive maneuvers or spawned in a plane earlier, get fucked. Let's not pretend like you're not here to CAS you CAScunt. 90% of fighters drop their bombs then fly in circles strafing tanks.
>>301624647>every fighter is a terrible player like me!
>>301624438That and the T-54 are on the same side stupid
>>301624647Good luck winning a fight against a level 100 Bf109nigger at 3000m In your P-51 that spawns at 1000m 300km\h hi
>>301624816sometimes GFRB has mixed battles, I also sometimes play arcade when I get tired of GFRB bush/hill/corner camp high tier meta
>>301624438Object 268 is using a T-10 chassis.
>>301624980even more sad I can rekt him frontally with my medium tank
>>301625124By using HEAT-FS, yes.
>wait to get to the german bmp, the leos, the gepard, the begleitpanzer>have to play through a bunch of slow ass fuck target practice tanks firstman who the fuck enjoys playing these snail ass immobile tanks? FUCK the tiger IIwhenever i have to alternate moving forward and turning to get my tank to turn its fat hull within the century it makes me want to fucking kill myself
>>301625181>germutts crying about the tiger 2
>>301625258dont get me wrong, its a very good and effective tankbut i find it hell to play, along with all other slow-moving pieces of shit
>>301625258>it's good because it has a single zone where I can't pen it and I am too dumb to aim anywhere else but the UFPallied nigger really gotten used to clicking in the general direction of german tanks and scoring an ammo rack
>>301625441Oh it's you again
>>301618864It's okay with jets.
>queue with 8.3 as to plane>8.0 plane has no SP cost Gamer time
>can't use my br 7.7 lorraine 40t to research a br 8.0 AMX-10RC because it's two ranks above>but i can use a br 7.0 light tank to research the 9.7 amx-40why the fuck are ranks like this? or even a thing at all? isnt the battle rating enough?
>>301626873you think they would just scrap the whole rank requirement RP system so more people would shell out premiums.
give 1945 shells to T-34-85 or drop its BR by 1.0, no reason to take it over a T-34-57
>forget to raise gear >it rips off>can’t belly land with a jet26 minutes of AF strafeing
>>301627959It does have it's 1945 shells.BR-367 is post-war.
>>301628074then drop it by a whole bracket
>>301621342in that case panther with stab and turbine when
>never had a wing over load before>2 in the same bot killing gameHmm20 minutes of fuel it is
>>301618000why would I use my 70 snailcoin plane to get a 30 snailcoin plane
>>301624082>be you>be madWhat gives, bro
>>301628074T-34/85 doesn't get BR-367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GsQSJzmd1Ahow it feels to play any of the zeroes at low tier
how it feels to camp the airspawn and slit japshitter throats with a 12 round burst at low tier
>>301628779Yes. T-44 does.
>3 hits by arty in 2 sec
>M551, M3 Bradley, T95E1, M901, M163, M60A2, F3H-2, B-57BAlthough it's definitely not brimming with power, american 8.0 has a really solid line up in my opinion.
>>301618126cope, seethe, dilate.
>>301628808https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRh109LUFswHow it feels to play zeroes at high tier
>>301628563>wing overload with minimum fuel at 700km/hwhat am I doing wrong? I’ve never had these problems before
Today I shall remind them.
>T-44-122 has 10mm less armor on the turret>15mm less armor on the UFP>still 800kg heavierThere's like a ton of difference in the gun weight.
>>301630120>F-35now compare J-20 with the F-22, Eurofighter, Rafale or Gripenspecially against Rafale and Gripen.
>>301630330>they keep falling for chang bait
>>301630330And yet, F35 is the one all the countries that use those have been memed into buying.
planes were a mistake
>>301630453>CARRO AMERICANO>literally a crusader
>>301630430>t the german horde trying to push A on fire arc that I killed 4 of by sniping their engine decks with my yak 9t.
>>301630530>AMERICAN TANK>ENGLISH CREW>DESTROYED IN ITALY (probably italian shell)
>>301630530American TankBritish EquipmentItalian "Pill"
>>301630587Based af.Both you for translating and Italian chads who painted it.
>>301630587jfc my italian (>>301630620) fucking sucks.
>>301630635>italian>chads>couldn't even conquer greece>relied on rommel throughout the entire african campaign >never developed a modern tank
>76 non pen a flat KT side ))))
>mfw gassing any kiketank
>>301630706Shut your mouth, Italy was the most powerful nation in world war 2, they would have won too, easily it was not for g*rmany and shitler holding them back.R O M A I N V I C T A
the AD-4 needs an air spawn in sim with the 4k load out
>category 5 shitalian chimpout
>can't replicate wing over load in test drive))))))))))
does wing over load only happen in sim?
>>301632687were you trying to replicate it in realistic test drive? wing overload should still happen in sim test drive
Spading the italian vampire has been a pretty easy task once I figured out the best method for the BR.>book it to our base>kill at least two a2d that are bombingAnd then get TK'd by the 50IQ g*rm pilot when he heads on a dead a2d that you just killed and are regaining speed and sends 50 shells into you.
What sort of matchmaking does 8.7 axis get? Heaps of full uptiers to face lightnings or downtiers for days? I can't imagine it's anything else besides those two.
>>301632792sim test drive got me nothingtrying RB test drive with sim controls rn
best i've done in a long while, pretty proud of myself.
found wing over load limit and how to do it.its 12 G's for the F2H-2 and needs ~800km/h speed to pull a turn, dap some stamina back and pull up.>>301633229neat, RB or Sim?
>>301633375RBground targets were mostly trains carrying jewsplanes were a =TORP= squadron of bombers who had all rearmed and were climbing towards to our airbase
>Conquest mode>Battle mode>shit side of the map>Mozdok>Abondoned fagtory>Advance to the Rhine>Alaska>Mutt desert>Ardennes>Berlin>Cargo pork>Crapathians>port novopig>east europe>poopooean poovince>fields of pooland>finland>frozen ass>fulda>korea>kuban>kursk>sand of tunisia>Stalingrad>Sweden>Tunisia>Nguyen hill>White cock fortressI can't thank you /wtg/ enough
>>301633616Is there a map you even play on?
>>301633616broseph? is that you?
>>301633673very few, depends on the side, I play ass river only if I get the bottom (or right) spawn
The P-63 is the best plane in the game and I don't give a fuck what you think
What does the F3H-2’s radar supposed to do? If something is within 3km of your nose, you can probably see it
>>301633973Best plane at what?
>centauro camping spawn cleans out my teamputting spawns in wide open areas flanked by forest is very Epic, thanks gaijin
>>301634203Not at altitude lol
>>301634203Laughs in 109 G2
>>301633991It's a gunsight radar, so the sight in the cockpit automatically gets fed the ranging data for whatever you are shooting at.
it takes five bulldogs to sink a destroyer in air RB, its not worth it.
>>301634643Is that the B or the C model?
>>301634643bullpups I mean.
>>301634643>missile not designed to destroy ships is bad at destroying ships
>>301634637And how can i use this data? Does it give me a lead indicator?
>>301575109were we able to mount 1 on bomb and the heat rockets that come on the fw190F8 instead of EITHER 1ton bomb + 4x50kg OR the 24 or so rockets it could be a bit better.But yeah, and they complain about the likes of 410 219 262s..
>>301634990Still waiting on gaijin go add the rotating nose mounted nebelwerfer on the Me410
>>301634834This should help.https://youtu.be/0AbkWMi0ZJ4
pls gib shekel
>>301635157Poor fag kekImagine having under 8 million SL at any time
>>301635230I play sim EC. It's hella fun and grinds RP like a motherfucker, but SL gain is painfully slow.I wish I could go back in time and tell RB me not to waste millions of shekels on crew training.
>>301575109you only need one bomb to revenge kill the nigger who dared to penetrate your krupp steel
let's be honest, mutt cold war tanks are greatly inferior to their russian counterparts. coming from a german main
fucking christ air 7.0 is a fucking queue simulator
>>301618953>spawning after you've been killed at the very beginning>this applies especially if you've been uptieredI'd better have a good reason 150% RP/SL boost for that, bonus points if I'm downtiered
>>301634861The B model has a 500 pound warhead where the C has a 1000 pound one, though looking at the stat cards both seem to have massively low balled, TNT equivalents for their respective weights of 63.5 kg and 136.5 kg
>>301635620Nobody plays 7.0 because it's a constant uptier espeacilly for Me262 and he162
>>301635550You only say that as you get 3 side grade mutt tanks vs the handheld BMP-1
>>301635771The B has a warhead weight of 250 pounds not 500.
>>301635860>bmp1 handheld Stop bringing heavies up to 7.3 mutt
it was a mistake crewing the F3D
>>301635978My heavy tank only exists at 7.3. what do I do now smarty pants? Roll over and die?
>>301636079stop using them.
>>301635991Don’t look at its sim repair cost or the arcade cost
>>301636079If you see 7,3 tanks just don't play your fucking heavy retard
>>301636139>skiping 2-3 tanks because of 1 opposing light tankyeah, why do you guys skip the KT’s cause of the bulldogs’ APDS?>>301636214This is stupid logic, you ARE the 7.3 tank and other people like you(heavy tank users) will be in every game
>>301636471I'll break it down for your retarded self Have a 7.3 lineup go into game Check your team unless your in a downtier and your the only 7.3 don't play your heavy play your medium
why are naziniggers so afraid of T-44
>>301636925I'm not Turret is weak as fuck and it's not that fast off road
>it's another match where it's endless waves of panther after panther after pantherFuck this shit is boring
why did they make choppers much stronger to structural damage than bombers
>>301637471Because premium helis exist and they want them to be bought when we get supersonic bombers they will get buffed
>>301636925I don't, if not for the ASU-85 I'd consider it the worst 6.3 Russian vehicle. And definitely one of my least favourite 6.3 tanks to play
>>301638146T44 is fun to play and the asu only downside is bad speed for a russian spg
What shell type hasn’t been over buffed/nerfed to hell? HEATFS used to make less post pen then HEAT, AP spall is useable, HESH once had a minimum pen value and APDS has got post pen buffed too. Is it APCR, that has been changed the least?
>>301637471h*linigger whining is even stronger than whinewaffeI'm sure the only reason the took a step back is that they saw less and less players putting up with their bullshit as a threat to their premium h*li income
>>301638354recoiless HESH is absolutely magic
>>301638316It would be fun if not for the fact that whenever I choose to spawn in it I get insta penned in the turret, which, as hull down as you may be, is what you'll stick out to shoot. Also the 85mm sucks at 5.3 already, much more a whole BR up
>>301638316>for a russian spgit's speed is bad by every metric
>>301638580It's not fucking unusable on long range maps it fucking dominates with its 300mm pen and 250mm pen
>>301638710so like one match out of every ten
>>301638842It's also good on mid range maps since you don't need to drive far and you can just camp
>>301633779Based on what?
>>301639085My dick in your ass, sissyboi
>>301640658Awake more like dead
M26A1 for USA when?
So are these all the differences between sim ground and ground RB or am I missing something?- no teammates in map, death notices, active scouting,etc- camera position- maps available- spawn system
>>301641886You forgot awful unrealistic gun sight placements
since when is the 76mm gun on T34s so useless
>>301642017It's not unrealistic, you are just bad.
What are good planes/BRs and ways to non cancerously make SL in Sim
>>301642182sure thing gaijin.
>>301616727>not the sexiest thicc girl in the skies
>>301642379To make SL from sim, you need 2 things, mass rockets and bomb tonnage. US fighters are better for the grind but German/Slav bombers have higher tnt per pound %. you’ll go for bases and AI sorties because you need to RTB for max SLYou’ll need over 70 RKTs to make money by airfield spamming. this is only doable with US made jets/ the MiG 21SMT and keep up speed so you don’t die to AA
I don't want to go throught summer again but that tiger hnnnng
>>301644216It’s a big cat, yes but it’s no tiger
>>301644216air is pretty easy if you do it in GF
Is the puma so fucking bad that everyone of it variant must be sub 3.7?????
>paypig animals in every ground matchis this game just dead now 100%? just waiting for the next power creep gokart to be patched in so they can sell more dogshit packs?
>>3016221015 minute search queues.
I’m not even going to bother with an image. Should I crew the D2?
>60k online>can't even fill a 8.7 tank lobby
>>301645787It's cheap as fuck, why not?
>>30164586559k out of 60k are arcade animals
>>301645930You're probably right, also it's 70k, not even 60.I just want the devs to add in what jets i want now, i have lost any hope for ground forces>inb4 jets are dead tooAt least they look cool
>>301646054Jetfags and other retards are the reason the game is so broken.
>>301646256Late jet fags who only play 10.7 The rest are fine maybe 9.7 jet fags for making the game unplayable tho
>>301645930It explains why the only time i've tried sim battles i couldn't find any in 30 minutes.
Composite is a sin.Thermals are a sin.FCS is a sin.Stabilizers are a sin.Missiles are a sin.Afterburners are a sin.Darts are a sin.Reject modernity.Embrace tradition.
>>301646324>goyjin pls add %gen2_jet%>added>powercreep>goyjin pls add %gen3_jet%>added>powercreepRinse and repeat.
>>301646592>higher tier jets being added are the reason the game and tanks is such dogshit
>>301646465>Stabilizers are a sin.Kys
>>301646465>stabilizers are a sin>embrace tradition pick one you grape fruit
>>301646679>other retards>goyjin pls add %gen2_mbt%>added>powecreep>goyjin pls add %gen3_mbt%>added>powercreep>goyjin muh mbt play like ww2 tank???>goyjin thermal???????>added>powercreep>goyjin fcs when????Top tiers getting expanded was a mistake. You reap what you sow.
>>301645468>all german tanks are undertieredand water is wet
>Autist chimpoutTop tier is cancer, but that's because gaijin can't into gamedesign, not because later tanks are bad.I bet you fags stay at the same place for 80% of the match.
>>301647030All seeds hits are under tiered by 2.0
>>301645563>could dislodge Tiger 2 turret with a shot to the front>doesnt do shit to the front of the tiger 2 turretwhen will kinetic force of the round be calculated into damage?
>>301646465>stab>rank 6 tanks>jets>HEATFS>ATGM>AA missles>round pen calculator>thermals/nv>helicopters>machine gun buff>HE nerf>wheeled vehiclesand many more shit additions
>>301646718>>301646816t. stabilized sinners
>>301647456t. camping autist
>>301647227Infinite +1 calculations is impossible )
>>301647227>when will kinetic force be calculated Can't wait to literally rip turrets off t54 with my maus
>>301647120Later tanks are bad for the game as a whole. No matter how fun they are. They do nothing but lead to powercreep and featurecreep.
>>301647227No please, I like bouncing shots from retarded panthers in my M4A3
back in my day the leopard 1 was nigger powercreep
>>301647456Naw buddy, I think you just need to sit still while the vertically stabilized, heavy metal hero’s roll forward
>>301647549guns of that caliber should hullbreak anything depending on where its shot
>>301647675They can be balanced in a way that people don't autistically camp and shoot eachother light years away and in that case they'd be infinitely more fun than slow WWII garbage.
>>301647797Remember when top tier was Maus v is4m v m103 v conqueror And T54 v leopard v m48 v centurion Instead of this modern bullshit
>>301647912>t. moderncuckGo play armored warfare.
>>301647964I started playing literally the patch the maus was added
>>301647872the FV4005 should realistically hullbreak anything it hits
>>301647964IS-4 vs Maus couldnt penetrate each other it was painful to watch
>>301647964>he wasn't around for the Tiger II 105 vs IS-4M>he wasn't around for the Panther II vs T-54-3>he wasn't around for the broken HE that ignored all armor and made T-60 the most OP tank in the game for a few days
>want to play minor nation>get fucked by planes>check planes>I have to fly low tier bombers to progress >stop playing minor nation
>>301648225Yeah, no tree should force you to play b*mbers to progress
>>301647993Go play panzer corps. Unironically.
>>301648359>arcadefaggot mad at people wanting a better game instead of WoT 2.0
>>301647964Friendly reminder that the leo is more modern than the t62.
>>301648431There is no non-arcade mod in WT GF, even sim battles are arcade.
>>301646034they are good, but really limited in range.
Why fighting soviets biplanes is so fair, balanced and fun?
No one is flying the MiG21F-12, is it because of the bad missles and 1 autocannon which has 60 rounds? i feel like i should just skip it and get the SMT.
Daily reminder: the entire soviet tech tree has been powercrept into being utter trash for years.
>>301648172I wish, you don't see many per match, it has little armour and being able to click some dude every 40s seems balanced
>>301648803This, i should've grinded the Germans or the US.
>>301649040>trying to spade the T-54-2>13 hp/t>7.2 degrees/s turret rotation>3.1 d/s elevation speed>9.8 reload>can barely reach 30 km/h off-road>extremely bouncy stock shell that doesn't always pen the M60>APDS as a tier 4 mod>completely irrelevant armor
>>301648803Soviets still have the best 220.127.116.11.38.3
>>301648485T-62 is absolutely basedWestern tanks were absolutely incompetent until the 80s
>>301649517Shoulda stuck to 6.3 till the 54-51
>>301648746>60 booletsit's not fun unless you're some kind of god tier player who never missand i'm pretty sure the SMT is even worse because it's a 23mmjust stick to the -19PT and oneshot everything
>>301649554>8.3 lineup when you are top tier = fun>8.3 lineup when atleast 0.3 br higher = helicancer and g91 spam
>>301649868The smt has 200 rounds of good 23mm belts
>>301649868>ever firing the dogshit guns on the SMT4 missiles should be 4 kills if you know what you're doing/get lucky
>>301649554>2.7Since when? Any armor they had was never that good and was only made redundant by sw*des.>3.72 T-34s and 1 KV?KV-1 turns into a rolling RP lootbox when facing sw*des or german guns.>4.3Welcome to the 5.3 black hole.Oh and "german" 4.0 exists.>6.3IS-2 is garbage. T-44 is powercrept. None of their SPGs were ever good.>8.39.3 black hole.
>>301649554I find the T-28E, Zis-30, SU-76 and BT-5 the most fun u can have with the soviet tree
>>301649945That's for every nation anon
Is it mean or in poor taste to put bushes on your reserve tanks? I got a arm full of palm leaves and a bunch of fir branches
>>301649720I don't need to stick till anything.
>>301650148>2.7T50 and T126 are light heavy tanks that bounce alot with good guns swedes can't kill more than one crew anyway >3.7T34 are fast and you don't need a railgun to play them kv1 can bounce germans and swedes easily unless your a retard who can't angle >4.3T34-57 is a 5.7 tank at 4.3 and kv1 in a downtier is unkillable you can also thrown the premium 57 in aswell as ASU 57 for camping >6.3 is2 can one shot anything it sees just stay hull down T44 is in no way power crept your just bad >no spg goodAre you stupidASU 85 is arguable since its slow but has the best gun at 6.3 Su100p is the best spg at 6.3 Su100 is also good>8.3 whaahh blackhole At worst your fighting m48 super which is shit
>>301650914Oh, it's you again.Bait someone else.
Didn’t the French use a early spitfire that could be better placed in rank 2 ?
>>301651208Just fuck off and take your copypaste somewhere else.
>>301651280>waaah all copy and paste bad waaaahDo you have a better idea for a French tier 2 plane that isn’t a bomber ?
>>301649675T-62 was just a stop gap solution, merely a gun carrier for the 115mm molot. It's the T-64 That was the truly revolutionary soviet tank, first autoloader, production variant with the first modern 120mm soviet gun (i know first variants had the older weapon), ultra porcelain composite armor etc.T-62 was never good.
>>301651451Nothing. Get fucked, froggie.
>>301651445Oh that retard yeah I'm not him just cause somebody misspelt you're with your doesn't automatically mean somebody is him
>>301651485>It's the T-64 That was the truly revolutionary soviet tank, first autoloader, production variant with the first modern 120mm soviet gunThat's the T-64A. T-64 had a 115 and a different hull.>ultra porcelain composite armor etcNot a thing till the T-64B.
>>301651485T-62 raped Chieftains in Iran-Iraq war tho, i mean thats not much we're talking Chieftains here but I refuse to believe they were bad for their time period
>>301651702>same way of typing>same "arguments"At least put some effort in.
Anyone who claims the ASU-85 is good without immediately posting their stats in it can be safely ignored.
>100mm APCR has 15mm less pen than 100mm APHE
>>301652010>same Arguements Doesn't he talk about german suffering though like his abhorrent posts 6 threads ago and hin saying the Ztz96 is a t72 that was a kek >>301652186I said it was arguebly good since it has an amazing gun still worse than the su100p in every other way though
how can I tell the difference between t64 t72 and t80?
>>301651208France should get 2 or 3 spits and a p47.
>>301652282The more people point this out, the more likely it becomes every day that BR-412P becomes a required module to research before you can get the good shells.>>301652429Shoot them in the driver's port.
>>301652429you don't really need to tell the difference
Is this lineup worth it for France 6.7, or is it better to stop playing them here?
>>301652429Is this bait?
>>301652429T-64/80 is much smaller
>>301652525I am honestly not sure what the point of the AMX M4 is when the Char 25t is superior in every way that counts.
>>301652525I decided to stay at 6.3 having the chance of 5.3 games is nice
>>301652558arr rook the same
>>301652429Learn your tanks faggot
>>301652882>clearly differentTracks with holes, luna on the left side of the gun - T-64.Luna on the right side of the gun - T-72.Three driver's viewports - T-80.
>>301652907i already kow about this, is there a way to guess from the front?
Lorraine 37L “ Chasseur de Chars Lorraine” when?
>>301652882I haven't quite broken into that tier with soviet tanks yet, but I bet they're great if you bush them up enough that the opponent can't see you're slightly angled
>want to play soviet 9.3>no thermal-capable MBT>no mobile MBT>4 km/h reverse>no usable SPAA
>rake an A-26's top from tail to nose>hit>zoom away>he pilot snipes me from 1km through all my armour after having turned to evade
>>301653469>angling>at top tierRetard alert.
Just got thermals on my T80B and dear lord are they rough. probably gonna be great on night maps and some cities but LOW RES
>>301653716No, you're the retard here. If the opponent doesn't know the side pen is available, they're going for the driver's port. Which isn't going to be where they expect it to be.
I still don’t get how the M163 is better then the ZSU-23-4. Is a search radar, 3rd person tracker, massive radar range and useable stock belts not worth anything?
>>301653787Most tank thermals are low res.
Why is this 9.7 isn't it a leo2A4 hull with a good turret
>>301653628>why is the fast attacker not made of paper? >why do 4 fittys hit hard and in a wide area?
>>301653973The damage output of the Shilka is absolutely fucking pathetic.
>>301653560>>4 km/h reverserevers for natofags
THESE FUCKING SWEDISH TURBOLASER PHASED ARRAYSWHY DO THEY DO SO MUCH DAMAGE
>>301653560>no usable SPAAshturm :^)
>>301652429>IR light positioning>roadwheelsize>tracks>smokelauncher positioningdoesnt matter anyway, unless its a t72a or t64a, just shoot the drivers weakspot
>>301653716>>301653828you both missed the point here, I think he wanted to say 'hull down' position
>>301649675only about equal to M60A1, that came out same year. Both tanks fixed biggest issues on respective sides: lacking long-range firepower for Soviets, and horrible fuel efficiency for Americans.>>301651968>charging dug-in tanks, with Saggers securing their flanks>without sufficient numbers>without artillery support to suppress defenses>without infantry to flush out enemy AT on flanks>get shot to hell by tanks>get ATGM'd by Saggers>when retreating get repeatedly flanked by mech infantry with Saggers>there's no bridge to retreat through, because crossing wasn't defendedwhat were they even thinking?
>>301654886>what were they even thinking?Do Arabs, ever think?
>>301652282you're talking about 50's APHE, BR-412D?
>>301654886>what were they even thinking?Allah wills it
>>301654789I'm the guy who got called a retard, but yes, terrain is obviously going to be a useful tool as well. My point is really just that the high-tier T-xxes seem to be tanks that would benefit a lot from bushes in comparison to tanks where they really just hide your profile.
>>301655058Iranians are not Arabswhich brings another question: how do you lose so badly to Arabs?
>>301655182>the high-tier T-xxes seem to be tanks that would benefit a lot from bushesnot really, thermals will reveal your autistic hideout
>>301655423They liked to dig in. A lot.Just look at the Siege of Basra
but I personally don't use thermals in top tier
>lose sight of enemy because shitty camera in plane is anchored to the ground instead of the plane
These are the people you play with.These are the people that keep crying for germutt buffs.
>>301656016>Some guy says the Panther is fine at 5.3>View his profile>He has a 1:2 K/D in itShit no fucking wonder you think it's underpowered or balanced buddy, ya fuckin' suck.
>>301656016>only 2 air killsShameful
>>301656016>paypig newfag spends money on premium ranks they never played before instead of grinding every rank slowly to learn how to playGaijin is the one to blame here desu
>>301655182>My point is really just that the high-tier T-xxes seem to be tanks that would benefit a lot from bushes in comparison to tanks where they really just hide your profile.lol
>>301656287>to learn how to playlel
>>301656287>0.38 k/d in the tiger>0.45 in the T-34-57Yeah the top tier premium ain't a problem.
>>301656415you should play rank 4 at least to get a general idea of how the game works
>Have a really good win rate and a 4:1 K/D in the T25>Game forces me to lose 7 times in a fucking row>Team gets absolutely butchered every single time while I top the scoreboardIt's a bit on the fucking nose, isn't it?
>french capped AP shatters more often then 105/120mm darts
>>301656875balanced teams by player skill )))
>*clubs your team of reserves*
>>301654886>fixed fuel efficency>abrams comes alonguhh, how worse could it possibly be before it
>In real life the mantlet of the Panther was a shot trap>Such a serious issue that they fixed it by putting a huge chunk of armour on the mantlet on the Panther G and removed the issue on the schmalturm>In game, shooting the shot trap causes the shell to just disappear into an endless voidWhy is this? Why can I shot trap with AFPSDS on NATO main battle tanks, but not the Panther?
>suddenly spark on AI plane that I just killed 3 of before with a single click and have put around a hundred 20mm into it to down it
>>301657265works on my machine
>>301656875i have 13kpd in my B1 Ter and 11 in B1 Bis and 34% win ratio
>>301657265they fixed the probability of shot traps cause whinemacht and jumbo players
>>301657065>*vaporizes your crew with 100mm pen Heat*Nothin personal
air rb 10.0 got me paranoid, i panic and constantly check my six for mirages and phantoms even though there's only 1 guy on the enemy team left.
>fuel amount still resets after unlocking performance modsWHO THE FUCK?! WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!?
>>301658029??? I don’t understand
>>301658210Performance mods decrease the minimum fuel timeBuying one automatically sets you to min fuel
>>301657983Su-7B at 10.0 has me upset. does fine in GRB though. Who thought a jet that has no guided missiles should be that high just because its fairly fast while 9.7 has stronger aircraft? I mean seriously
>>301658490yes, yes it is.its especially blows when you forget about it and the game gives you 9 minutes of fuel on a plane with afterburner.
>>301658454i've seen some pilots actually dog fight with it with rocket pods, just need pin point accuracy with the guns. preferably slow and near stalled ones.
>>301658454>who thought a jet that has no guided missiles should be 10.0 because it's fast Try playing the Mig19S literally unplayable considering it can't reach mach 1 on the deck aswell should really be 9.7
>>301649675Based on what?
>>301659064The actual newfag
>>301657265the same reason the panther is at 5.3, gaijin are both disgustingly incompetent and actively malicious
>>301657443how is that monster at 2.3? tiger I should be 4.3 then
>>301659363monkeys who can’t play it probably drag down the stats
>>301659363no, it's german, they should suffer
>>301659164So only absolute morons use the term. Cool.
>>301657065>jeanne d'arcGod I hate the french TT and France
>>301659504>being a libtard
>>301657265>__ _________ ___>___ ___ ________
>>301657258actually Abrams had similar road range as M60. AGT1500 obviously used more fuel than supercharged diesel, but it was balanced by larger fuel capacityM1A1: 460 km rangeM60A1: 500 km range>uhh, how worse could it possibly be before itM103: 130 km rangeM48: 110 km rangeM47: 130 km rangeImmediately after M60 entered service, above tanks were refitted to use M60 engine, resulting in M47M, M48A3 and M103A2, which all had 450km+ range, a tribute to how damn good tank engine Continental AVDS-1790 was. It was also used in modernized Centurions and in Merkava.
I refuse to believe that HEAT rounds, especially modern ones, do not have a fuse capable of going through bushes and trees, and only detonating on a tank or other hard surface
>>301659504ok basedboystill being salty about trump winning?
>>301660015wtf, why is it basedboy instead of basedboy
>>301660187It’s been spammed you tard
>>301659636>>301660015The fuck does political orientation have to do with crackhead niggerspeak?
>>301660187s o y b o y
>>301659579t. kraut gunlet keep shooting, maybe the 300th shell will go through
>>301660471>he only plays low tier to club on first time playing newbiesthe fr*nchmen are real cucks
>>301657065Does the turret take priority over the hull gun for gunners? Most guns can pretty easily go through the cupola’s front
What round do I want to prioritize in my 50cal belts? AP-I or API-T?
>>301660338We(the site) used itThey only look at one part of the side and see based under things they find “awful” and unbased under things they see as “good”
>>301660471the stock pz.II pens it frontally thoughand with how RNG based the game is, shooting more is actually increasing your chances to pen.
>>301660658Depends on what .50s, if you mean the American ones then go for the highest amount of AP/AP-I
>>301660658Depends on how well you can aimIf you’re good with stealth you’re set because robots don’t react until you actually shoot at them
>>301660628>first time playing newbiesliterally impossible
>>301660819>>301660851Yeah talking about ma deuce>>301660886im pretty shit at aiming, especially on deflection shots, seems like I always undershoot.
>>301660658>stealth If you can aim use stealth the bots that play this game don't react to stealth>tracer Scares the shit out of people and makes them panic but could blind you so you can't see where you're shooting
>>301660628Sorry for interrupting your Pz.II stat padding session, Helmutt.
WHERE ARE THE SIM SLAVES???
>>301661302how do you feel when you get shat on by F2? we are even here, or not.. enjoy your only palyable tank in the TT until 10.7
Still fucking waiting for recon planes, having airborne spotters would be epic
>>301661678The Frenchmen stole all of them
post songs you listen to while completely RAPING the enemyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS_eHdqcrM8inb4 dad rockit's a good song, leave me alone
>>301618126>someone made a slavnig versionOh no no no.
>>301661678good idea but the spawn cost should be high, or at least the spotting interval should be around 45s
>>301661896one of the most underrated guitar solos ever at 1:50 btw
>>301661906How did you know?
>>301662182I have the samefag intuition buff.
>>301661971i imagine they could do some kind of system like they have for air-2-air missiles, you would need to press a hotkey to "begin scouting" then maybe hover your aim over an enemy for however many seconds, then as you said have long cooldown
naval forces was DOA cause u start from boats
>>301662438>change to realistic>put the plane into a stable circle over the battlefield>scout with no drawback
>>301648485didn't leo1s had systems that aimed at the target for you though? Like, just point here and you'll hit the target kind of aiming computers? shit's not even on modern tanks in wt
>>301662924Enemy could always come and shoot you downthey’re too busy revenge bombing to do that though
>wing over load crash >Didnt get G indications like blacknout>ME 262 can turn harder tho
>>301660659I always found it incredibly low brow. Basically just another catchphrase for the short attention span low IQ lazy urbanites of today. Whoever uses it is basically subhuman in my eyes.
I am quite enjoying the F-80, is it because its good or because I fight nothing but 262s? dunno but dont care
>>301662838my personal preference is rip & tear but excellent nonetheless
>>301662438>give scouting to plane>make useless from the startyou would make a good gayjew developer
>>301662924i mean they already have helis that can shoot you from a million miles away so a plane that can scout is a lot less cancer then that
>>301663078How does that equal to wing shenanigans?
>>301663069>lose dogfight to 262lmao
>>301663078Disregard >>>>>301663371I wasn’t paying attention
>>301663081it is because both the F80 is superior to the 262 *and* most 262 players are dogshitt. Germutt who loves the 262
>>301663348Well, at low tier you have literally no counter to planes over ~1km from you besides hopping into plane yourself.Not saying that scout planes shouldn't be a thing, but with this current small map circle in a dirt gameplay it's pointless and would either be cancer or shit.
>>301663423I was chasing him and was on the inside but I’m just that bad and have my shit ripp off while I’m lining up a shot
>want to play a quick 5-10 minute match in American 3.7>Faginot Line>quit to menuI will happily take this crew lock and go take a shit while I wait instead
>>301663624>most player who use a plane that only has straight line speed as an advantage over planes in a full downtier and constantly faces planes it shouldn't even come close to in an uptier are badlmao
well, gave that stealth belt a try, hoooboy do I need to learn how to aim.
>he doesn't main the BMP line
>>301661896>flying trusty 190 while listening to TAMUSIChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOYm9ixcyug>2:25 as I dive for a killtiming couldn't be better
>>301664107>be badJust practice, You’ll get better
>>301664154There is only one actually good BMP.
>>301664358BMP 1 through 3 are all great, especially in the current SB lineup.
>>301653787be glad that gaijin has not emulated refresh rates yet(((
>>301664435>gaijin begin implementing non-stabilized gunsights imagine the nausea
>>301664354weirdly enough I do better in GFRB
>>301664435What were they like on early thermals?
>>301664420>SBYeah okay maybe there, but the BMP-1 is the only good BMP for RB.>BMP-1Fast for its tier, good armament that can kill everything it faces.>BMP-2Hypothetically more mobile than what it faces, in practice slower than everything it faces. Inconsistent at best armament.>BMP-3Basically a BMP-2 with thermals and a worse armament.>BMP-2MGimmicky at best.The global performance stats back this up, as well as the fact that the Germans have only got the BMP-1 and not the BMP-2, which they also used. If the BMP-2 were good, the Germans would have it.
>>301664681Most of the air combat in gfrb is slow and on the deck, pretty easy situation
>>301663962I do pretty well k/d wise but my win rate is shit because my teammates get bopped instantly because they go head on against A2Ds or try to turn fight at 300kph
>>301653787>but LOW RESIRL Agava wouldn't even detect unobscured tank-sized object at more than 1500m, which is exactly why Russians bought their thermals from France. Thermals on M60A3 would detect vehicles up to 5km, and up to 3km image would be clear enough to identify them.
>>301665034262s are right after the 109 line, not surprised
>>301664706DDR vehicles should have never been given to germany
>>301664706Personally the BMP-2 is my favourite vehicle in the game. I guess it just suits my playstyle. I'd like to try the BMP-2M but I'm not a clan faggot.
>make maps for you ungrateful fucks>see anime faggot make video about how to play map>now WTOC has a map guide spoopy
>>301664940true enough but I do still enjoy them more since there are not nametags and distances arent displayed.
anyone here speak favela monkey? need pic related translated.I don't recognize the name, I'm assuming it's from >>301663916 and he's just calling me gay or something
>German teams>Chat is active and players giving infos to each others>mutt teams>not a single Attention to the map for the entire gameI feel blessed for maining germany, and despite being my favourite tank, I will give up the abrams and go for the russian TT now
>>301665960I struggle to see what the value of the BMP-2 is over the Object 906, honestly.
>>301664697The earliest military imager took around 1 hour to produce an image which is useless for a tank. Information on the refresh rate of specific tank thermal cameras seem to be sparse, but i would guess they worked on it and got it to 10hz to 21hz before putting in a tank for serious use.Current ones can do 60hz to 180hz.
>>301666672I've found that American teams are usually totally silent. every other nation has at least a few people communicating about enemy locations, what they're doing, etc. in the chatmeanwhile i will be typing all caps "HES RIGHT FUCKING BEHIND YOU IN A HELP ME" while some stuart shoots away my gun and tracks and some teammate is 20 feet away completely fucking oblivious
>https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/494442-leopard-c2a1-should-be-in-the-british-tech-tree/8 hours ago, 9 pages
>ctrl+f trax>zero hitswhat the hell dudes? POST EMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pm_KoguqPM
>>301666805puma* not stuart, sorrybut I guess copypaste Stuarts apply too
>>301666672Try arb, actual robotsMost activity is bomberniggers pinging bases that they’ll never make it to
>>301667134>Most activity is bomberniggers pinging bases that they’ll never make it tofucking kek, it's so true
>>301666232map guides existed for years anon, we've even done indepth analysis of peoples replays.
>found the old screenshot folder>the game used to look betterThe fuck
>>301667517this is a filter
>>301665551cause germany has enough of its own trash to fill the gaps
>>301667134>>301667210>faggot A: "going left">faggot A: ATTENTION TO MAP>faggot B: "going left">faggot B: ATTENTION TO MAP>faggot A: FUCK U I CALLED FIRSTS!!>faggot B: first come first serve :)>faggot A critical hit faggot B>faggot B shot down faggot A>faggot C: wtf???
>>301667579No. I never used filters and I also never used any post-effect settings.This is a stock screenshot from 2014.
>>301666875and give Britain the Leo 2A4 and 2A6 that Canada hasand Australia's M1A1'sand India's T-72's and T-90's
>>301667619Don’t forget faggot d complaining about getting ganked with no cover
>>301667517why dont I remember pooland looking like this...>2014>almost over six yearsfuck...
>>301667517>October 9, 2014that was around the time I went on the first date with my ex
>>301667619LMAO, I screencapped this for future use
Hey remember when overturned tanks STAYED ON THEIR TURRETS WITHOUT CLIPPING INTO THE GROUND?
>>301668073that was even older, february of that year iirc. I want to go back bros>>301667619fuck me this is great
>>301668073Remember Crimea?red on red wwm scenario when
C L O U D S
how many oldfags here?
>>301668232>woke up>went to ruskie LJ community about WT as usual >instead of usual posts about game there is videos with helicopters crossing the strait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PgFkX6i2Gc those ones. Without crappy music of course.
Stupid Slave babays who can’t handle jets and good maps
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>>301668593November 2012 here.>looking at the old earnings screenshots>way better than what they are now
>>301666713Not too sure myself either. I just regularly find myself on the enemy flank where the APDS is more than enough to rape through their crew before they even know whats shooting them.
>>301668914more likeblurp blurp blurp blurp blurp bluuuRRRPP
>>301668957I started playing in january, how/what do you feel when you browse old screenshots?
IMO poland looks pretty much the same, the aerial view just sorta fucks with your perspective https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13S1c8DGAAII know, cuckleaf>>301668213>that was even older, february of that year iirc. I want to go back brosif you have any older images please post, I lost most of my 2013 pics a long time ago.>pic related is my oldest, god knows from what year>>3016685932013 here, tank CBT was fun since the top vehicles were the Tiger 1 and IS-2(I think?)
here's one with the old fire effects shot December sixth, 2013
>>301669156Nostalgic. Not just about the game, but about life as a whole.
>>301669250>top vehicles were the Tiger 1born too late
>SU-122-54 cost 380k RP on release
>>301666313There are nametags on your team. Which is still shit.
>>301669275beautiful, I will start taking some screeshots maybe
>the old mud
>>301669912>there will be a time where we reminisce about the game in its current stateI’m scared bros
>>301670062 >entire tank gradually gets cleaned from wading
Hey I actually remember doing this
>>301667517It literally didn't, the colors were all kinds of fucked up before the PBR update and while the clouds did look good upclose, they looked way worse from a distance.
>>301667619You forgot faggot C. The silent wind that dives down to get speed and get there first.Me
>the P-63A-10 used to be 5.3
>>301669475There also was prototype T-34, gifted for pre order. It was terrible balanced and just rape enemy teams, 10+ frags minimum. Tank respawn used to be fucked up - you could respawn on top of other guy, or just upside down. Around that time they added towing function i think. Also, maybe i mistaken and other oldfucks will correct me, but i think crew replenish wasn't a thing and OHK with killing all crew was lot more common. It was changed because of WoT-babies in hope of score more playerbase (didn't help that much). Oh, and i think online was 100k+ for a few weeks, before dropping back.
>>301668768rich times on /k/, since Russians used their Tier 1 on Crimea, so there was plenty of photos. Following slavgear festival in Eastern Ukraine was great too>first tank-on-tank battles since Desert Storm>modernized T-64s on Ukie side>then brand-new T-72B3s on Russian side>local Russians pulling IS-3 out of museum and trying to use it in combat (broke down before getting to frontline, as expected)>Russian recon troops, providing world with first purchasable Vintorez rifles after they got themself surrounded and killed/captured>Grads hammering Ukrainians across the border>entire platoons of "captured" Msta-S howitzers
>>301670491lrn2read lolfaggot D
>>301669258those flames look 2D. Still, ArmA 2 had 2D flames, and they looked better than 3D flames that came later on.
>>301670639>Faggot E: gl&hf
>>301670396what do you mean by "a distance" >all my screenshots have fucked sharpness because that used to give a huge advantage >>301670765 yeah, iirc they didn't look great when you saw them move either.
>>301670528>wasn't there to get my slav T4 P-63 to grind entire Russian tree withstill hurts
>>301670767>faggot F: Negative!
>>301670873>what do you mean by "a distance"From at least a few kilometres away, at a distance where the current clouds don't have noticeable pixelation. The current clouds could actually look fairly good if they just increased their maximum render resolution/quality.And sharpening has nothing to do with colors, they simply used to be very unnatural before in general, though I can't quite put my finger on exactly why. The current ones are much better either way, especially with a bit of color correction.
>>301672203that cloud looks like a 'roo
>>301671772>>301672052Doing it for the 90% 5 match booster the decal sucks.
>>301667768>>301666875>teebs asking for MORE handholdingit never ends.
Can Germutts be more Shit . Just had a G 91 R3 miss all 4 Nord Runs
The SLAV(e) FEARS the F-5
>>301672052Yeah, I am retarded.
>Activate a 150% booster>Take out the vehicle I really wanna spade>Die without getting a single kill>Respawn in a spaded vehicle>Get an aceFUCK.
>>301673902and that's why they're adding the other Tiger
>>301673902F-5 looks like a twink that gets bullied daily by the chad F-4
The Maxim Gorky is just superior to the Kirov in the tree. Why is Naval like this? Premium/event vehicles aren't sidegrades or unique, they're always just better flat-out.
>>301675082The F-4 is the typical no longer relevant obese amerimutt while the F-5 is still out there dabbing on turd world slav shit.
>>301675804still look like a twink tho
>>301675804>F-5s with Aggressor paint jobsWould’ve been kino
>>301675804>still out there dabbing on turd world slav shit>posts a swiss one of all things that absolutely will never see combatGathering dust in a hangar is gathering dust in a hangar whether or not its still "in service"
>>301675804>F-4 is no longer relevant>Nip F-4s>Turk F-4s>Iranian F-4s>Israeli F-4s>Korean F-4stake your meds schizo
HOLY SHITT28E is fun!
>>301673507guy probably didn't get the memo of guided missiles getting unguided rocket dispersion on launch
>>301676542>200 phantoms in service at best as of 2019 out of a production run of like 5000>little less than 500 F-5's still in service>still 400 T-38's>out of a production run of maybe 3000 between the two>only reason didn't see further service is because of presidents fucking around with export regulationsseethe more fatty
>>301677346>T-38swe all know trainers serve way longer than their combat counterparts. intense cope from the average Tiger II fan.
>>301677346>uses derogatory language for mutts while jerking off a mutt aircraftWhat did he mean by this?
>>301661896quintessential mutt and slave slaying 軍歌https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrLvoyFpLGc
>The F11F's career lasted only four years because its performance was inferior to the Vought F-8 Crusader so...uhh...crusader next patch?Americano-Franco double release like with the Franco-Germano Rolands?
>>301678117>4 Magics on the frog crusaderoh god
>>301678024>Gundam ThunderboltAh fuck, you magnificent sunofabitch
>>301676542>>301675804F-4 is fast and has massive payload, so it makes excellent fast bomberF-5 is agile and easy to fly, so it's great for dogfight training, teaching pilots how to survive against far more maneuverable enemythen there are non-1st world countries, that simply have to make do with what they got back when these planes were relevant as fighters.
>>301677640>2000 F-5's produced if you subtract Talons>500 in service>5100 F-5's produced>less than 200 in service>Japanese F-4's supposed to be phased out last year which is 1/3 of the ones still in serviceinteresting cope I guess
>>301678367would you, could you, imagine the screeching from the US mains if they got the early versions of the F8, while the frogs got the last versions, with Magics?
Imagine the mutt tiers of an tech tree axis P-47 with bombs.
Do you guys think we will ever see something like the Gnat?
>>301679238based seething ESL g*rmutt chimp
>>301654128Its a 2A1 hull you spong it has even less armour in both hull and turret
>>301679424>bongs get anything nice
>>301678943>different country gets better version of US gear, and/or earlier than USwouldn't be the first time: F-84, post-war F4U, AD-4, T48 GMC (SU-57), SP TOW carrier M113, M8 Greyhound, just to name some
>>301679591No, I play the superior Italian tree, not g*rmany. I just want a fair and balanced treatment from gaijin, they copy past america into every ground tree, so I fail to see why they can't do the same when the Italian air forced received 75 P-47, as well used ordnance on them.
>>301679424ONE DAY DEAR ANON!THE PATCH "Light Heavy Strikers" WILL COME!WITH IT! US THE PATRICIANS OF TASTE SHALL RISE!
>>301680059Forwarded to anton as a premium ))))Thank you for your suggestion )
>>301680075alpha jet chads, RISE UP!
when will they calculate 20mm pen. 20mm guns cant do 64mm pen
>US- Joe>Germany- Hans>Soviets- ???>UK- ???>France- ???
>>301678583unironically this. I just wanted to make a counterpoint to >>301675804 given that the F-5 is short range light fighter, and the F-4 is actually significantly more capable than the F-5 in modern Air to Air combat given it's BVR ability. The F-5 is like, the west's equivalent of the MiG-21. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but the jets serve in two fundamentally different roles. It just happens that the West's lack of interest in a fighter like the F-5 hasn't made a replacement for it while plenty of jets have come along to fill the F-4's shoes.
>>301680523Yes they canhttp://www.tankarchives.ca/2015/10/ptrs-penetration.html
>>301680523>20mm guns cant do 64mm penyes they can. easily. especially with modern ammunition. even with 70s and 80s ammunition.
>>301681318nowadays, or WW2?>US - Tommy>Germany - Fritz>Soviets - Ivan>UK - Johnny>France - no idea, "Frenchman" was insult enough
>>301681718same way we use zhang for ch*nks
>>301681318>Soviets - Ivan>UK - Nigel>Frogs - Pierre>Japan - Tojo>China - Chang>Italy - Mario
>>301681718Pierre or Jacques for France.
>>301673507give the guy time, I've score 3 to 4 kills with my g91, love that plane
>>301680523The finnish lahti l-39 could do 30mm at 100m using the same cartridge as the flak 30 but sporting only a 2.2m barrel instead of a 4m one
>>301681461that's 14.5mm KPV, purpose-build armor-piercing cartridge.
>>301679238>same br as others p47 even the russian one> a bit cheaper on the GE cost justifies the lack of bombsWould've bought already otherwise
>>301682485Actually thats wrong, the l-39 and flak 30 both 1.3m barrels.
>night map while playing slav 9.3 with no thermalsyep thats a return to hangar
>>301682573Point was if a 14.5mm AP can do 50 at close range flat angles then 20mm AP can do 64
>>301682905what a kikey nose
>>301682896you don't know much about ballistics, don't you? Caliber is actually detrimental to penetration, ideal penetrator is tiny and fast. Reason why calibers kept increasing is because past some point only practical way to get more energy is by making caliber larger.This is how purpose-built anti-tank cartridges come to play: to have as much muzzle energy as possible at smallest possible caliber. Perfect example is 57mm ZiS-2 AT gun, despite small caliber it was best performing Soviet AT gun until 100mm BS-3
>>301682905pointy long nose
>>301673507>mfw i get more ground kills in r1 with mighty mouses than most r3 retards
>>301683795see >>301612019>REMEMBER: Don't be a retard.
>>301683896oh my god this shit makes me seethe. they are NOT FFARs. FFARs are different rockets from WAFAR, which are what they are. WAFARs are the the rockets put in Hydra-70 rocket pods. Gaijin fucking renamed them because theyre retarded.
>>301652429>64tiny roadwheels>80it can reverse>72 it's the only one left
>>301684516funny how you're a seething third world retardcope& dilate
>>301683795remember: if brute force isn't working, you arent using enough of it>16 and 18 inch naval guns>upwards of 500-600+mm of penetration>shells also weigh multiple tonsI'm not trying to disprove you or anything I'm not really an expert I just know if the guns get big enough your gun's caliber does have a big effect on penetration
>muttchimpout gaining traction...
>>301683896>being part of the SNEB club
>>301684782Okay literal crackhead nigger.
>>301684920yes, the g*rmutt is upset
>>301683795more boolet > more propellant> more energy > marginally increased energy dispersion
>>301685774I agree with this video on all physical and meta-physical levels.
>>301686128>800mm railway gun>ridiculous minimum range>sitting way outside the map so it can only be killed by CAS>has it's own AA party surrounding it>can only fire once per game>shell takes at least 10-15 seconds to hit the map>but it obliterates literally everything it hits and only leaves behind a crater
>>301686385>functional levolution mechanics>hits the dam on korea
>>301681718>>US - Tommy>>UK - Johnnybut tommy is the name of the british squaddieI have never heard johnny as a nickname for a brit
>russian teams in low br are brain dead retards>switch to mid br krauts>get raped by russians
>>301683795barrel length in relation to bore is more important than making it only wider. A 150 L/55 will do better than a 120 L/55, but if the barrel of the 150 was only as long as the 120 then you would lose the advantage and just have a bigger shell as you say. And also scale of the charges matter too ofc. Also making a longer barrel for the smaller gun will get the power of the bigger gun but the barrel will be ridiculous. See 75mm L/100
>>301686970I don’t see any orange dots on it
>>301686385>ridiculous minimum rangeL/40 gun, 39 kilometers.M109, L/39 gun, 22 kilometers (30 with RAP, the gun charges are not scaled the same as the gustav, if so it would also be around 39 kilometers)
Why is the AMX M4 at 9k repair cost when spaded ?It's not that great to begin with
>>301688063Selection bias and the ability to absolutely ruin a team from the side like other tanks can't.>Good players use a niche vehicle, do well in it>Niche vehicle increases in BR/repair cost>Only good players keep using the niche vehicleAd infinitum. Also the autoloader means that, under the right circumstances, the M4 can be an absolute rape machine.
>>301688063>be french>be poorFairly accurate
>>301669250>if you have any older images please post, I lost most of my 2013 pics a long time ago.sadly I lost any screenshots from early WT a long time ago. sorry anon
>>301688573Somewhere on my PC I have screenshots from the tank CBT. I could probably find them.
>>301685626bigger bullet surface = need to push more armor out of way = need more energy to achieve same resulteventually you will hit limit of pressure the gun can handle, and won't be able to squeze more energy. This is when you go higher caliber.which is kinda irrelevant to original topic, because Kraut 20 mm was NOT purpose-build anti-tank caliber like 14.5, but all-purpose autocannon capable of using HE rounds as well as able to defeat light armor targets.
>fields of normandy>conquest>immediately leave
>>301686909You have to know when diminishing returns make it no longer worth it. 120mm L55 gives only 5% more velocity than 120mm L44, despite being 25% longer. I suppose further increase of length would make velocity gains even more marginal.
>kill a few jets>see a jet on my tail with airbrake extended>no teammates around>instead of performing pointless evasive maneuvers, nose dive into ground to deny killgg
>>301688701I remember fucking around in custom battles with my friends in late 2012. we'd split up into two teams, Chaikas and PBYs, and see which group survived. lots of fun times.
>>kill a few jets>>see a jet on my tail with airbrake extended>>no teammates around>>instead of performing pointless evasive maneuvers, nose dive into ground to deny kill>gg
is everyone in low-tier Nazinigger now just running the 28mm armored car?
Does the rank here mean my vehicles? or the enemy vehicles that i have to destroy? does it count kills from rank 2 vehicles in a rank 3 lineup?>inb4 arkaden.Yeah i know but the other task was to get 1 kill in three different type of vehicles and win the mission times 6. So yeah, fuck that
>>301692904Rank of your vehicles.
>>301692904>player’s vehicle>vs>target’s vehicleTake a guess
>>301688257wasn't lorraine 40t like 6.3. ah the good ol days of frog introduction
>>301694932Me on the right.
>>301688063paying for l*rryniggery
>>301694932the autoloader took 10s to reload back then
Sweden is for niggers
>>301696441So is your anus, so what's your point?
>>301696526>Sweden mentioned>Topic changed to anusesHmmm
>>301696668I'm not the one putting out for blacks, fagboi. Change your life style choices if you don't want people talking shit.
>>301696817Negroes are the actual topic for the whole world, can't say the same about other people anuses, right?
>>301696995>Negroes are the actual topic for the whole worldSo is that's why you let them pound your boipussy? Show some self respect.
>>301696526I prefer bright colored dildos but niggers will do too as for the difference, I like one and think the other is a silly faction and a stupid map
>>301697120You like men, eh?
While we're on the topic of gay interracial anal sex, how's the Italian navy? inb4 >sh*ps, I just want to know
>>301697445It's not good. It has the only ship to ship missiles in the game but besides that, not anything special or even usable.
>>301697180>no uI'm sorry, did I hit a sore spot? I'm sorry I called out your vice of getting your colon prolapsed by dark men. You should really stop that, it's gross and unhealthy.
>Shoot a Leopard A1A1 in the back of the turret with an 85mm APHE>Somehow it only kills his loaderI am genuinely unsure how this occurred. Still killed him because his response to being shot in the back was to expose his side to me but what an odd thing to happen.
One day I'll use it. One day.
>>301698274If your plane crew is already level 61 and you don't play other modes then those points are basically worthless.
>>301698274why not use it now you monkey?
>>301698274you could max out your naval crew skills with that
>>301698274what the fuck
Did we ever find out who drew the monsters for op summer?
>>301698378I mostly play planes which is why I have so many points there, but I do dabble in all other modes.>>301698383I dunno what to blow it on.
Slaves top tier status: dabbed on
>>301699280The issue with having a crew that is super good in planes is that if you put those points into tanks, you won't be able to use that crew for CAS or air superiority in GFRB.
>>301699280G-tolerance and vitality
>>301699457His plane crew is already Level 61. I doubt he doesn't have max skills for his pilot already, and gunner skills besides Vitality are fucking worthless.
>>301699280If you maxed out pilot skills there's a few essential ground ones to pickStuff like leadership, targeting and reload speed
>>301699457I already have pilot skills maxed out along with vitality/g-tolerance for gunners, along with maxed out logistical services.>>301699617I've put some points into those but I'll just go and max them out, thanks.
>>301699774You wanna max out all the "unique" skills first. Targeting is a huge fucking boon, but all the unique skills (besides artillery) are pretty high priority. Once you have the unique skills done, I'd say vitality and Field Repair are next, and Agility is kind of the least of your concerns.
this is a level 100 GF main in 1.7 ARB
>>301701617What are you doing in a 1.7 game?
>>301701716playing French planes which I haven't bothered to ever touch
>be me>be frustrated with L3/33s tankette gun performance>"I bet it could pen more than in game calculations!">Look it up>MFW 18mm of pen at 300m. >in game pen of 27mm at 500mHoly shit the Italy was below Japan tier in WWII tanks memes are real, they really sucked, damn! Still want that P40 tho.
>>301701897They can be pretty fun at low tiers. Everything is really, except Italian and French tanks that aren't the B1.
>50 kills >no RB/SB multiplier What the fuck gaijew
>>301703102>Reward is a fucking reskin and a fat LeopardGrind up, goy.
>>301702752Stick to the mediums, they're decent unlike most of the casemate TDs
>>301702938I agree. low tier is really kino. lots of fun. i think the fast reloads for tanks, and the high maneuverability of the planes, is what does it. makes it seem exciting
>>301703102They have the statistics
>>301703529>5 kills per gameI honestly cannot believe this. Your average player struggles to get 1-2 kills per game.
>>301703529>the average playerso what about those 5 killed? theyre not getting 5 kills a match buddy. 1/5 is not "average"
>Two fucking German vehicles>One of the fucking German vehicles is at a tier where Germany doesn't need more shit>A Swedish reskinI mean sure the Jet and the Float are fine but fucking hell why?
>>301703689A racist like you should keep your mouth shut when you don't even have any Russian sources to substantiate your claims.
Why does the SAu 40 have a 7 second reload? The ammo is so tiny
>>301704213I actually do have Russian sources: Thunderskill.>>301704212The boats are also nothing interesting. The Italian boat is really generic and the Maxim Gorky is just a Kirov with 20mm of extra belt armour and 3 extra 45mm AA guns, which don't even have HE-VT so they're actually useless for AA more or less unless you somehow get a direct hit. This may actually be flat out the worst Summer event ever.>>301704369Cramped))))
>>301703529>5 kills per gameAbsolute horseshit. At this point I hate slavs as much as I hate jews and these gopnik slav(e)s are acting like both.
New bread when?
>>301703529theres like going to be 1 or 2 people a game out of like total 16 players that get like 3 kills. thats not average at all
>>301704434>>301703529>>301704173He's not wrong with his statement that in the time it takes for your average player to get 14 won matches, they'll get the 50 kills. Your average player struggles to maintain a 50% winrate, meaning they'll have to play roughly 28-30+ matches to get those 14 wins. I think that it's reasonable to assume the average player will be able to get 1.8 kills per match over 30 matches.
>>301704721thats five hours of playing minimum
>>301704434>>301703689>>301704173Honestly I've been baffled. If I give him the benefit of the doubt, which he likely doesn't deserve, the only rational explanation that I can think of is that when he says "average player" he means "the subset of players who successfully grind out the top tier reward."
>>301705016also taking up the rest of the time needed for the other tasks
>>301705016Five hours over two days isn't that unreasonable for people without jobs. People who have jobs can just shell out GE. It's kind of intended for players to get a few stars and buy the rest out of frustration.>>301705034He could have also just fucked up and meant that your average player can, over the course of 14 wins, get one match where they get 5+ kills? It's baffling, yeah. The most reasonable explanation is that he really did mean the average player who can accomplish the grind, which is a weird and obvious statement to make.
Bake new bread
Anybody excited about Star Wars Squadrons?I ask because LucasArts used to produce a lot of WWII air plane combat sims back in the 80s and 90s, and that influenced games like X-wing and Tie Fighter. The new game looks super arcadey, but I've heard it harkens back to those old LucasArts titles. Just asking.
>>301702752it's a literal anti tank rifle, what did you expect
>>301706139It looks like something that could have had potential before they pozzed it up and limited it to 5v5 wannabe esports shit.
>>301706139fucked over just like cyberpunk
>excited for EAshit
>>301706285thisso long as EA keeps forcing DICE to make garbage, Star Wars games will be deadbring back the LucasArts golden age
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