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Thanquol Edition

>FAQs and General Info
https://pastebin.com/2x2ru0pC
https://pastebin.com/uGj4AUHR
https://www.totalwar.com/blog

>Roll Charts
https://imgur.com/a/Wf0l2Dp

>Three Kingdoms
OST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEyWuefdc6E&list=PLh4Eme5gACZGj_hRQITJy5_-IHH9OFmGL
New Mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQBoSPYr2jA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0QydMRocjg
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-three-kingdoms-steam-achievements/
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/three-kingdoms-tech-effects-and-system-specs/
new beta patch to nerf Yuan Shao vassal madness
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-three-kingdoms-update-2-beta/
https://3kcomic.totalwar.com/

>Warhammer 2 Info
Amethyst update patch notes
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/the-amethyst-update/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/965220/Total_War_WARHAMMER_II__The_Prophet__The_Warlock/

Screenshots and campaign posting are encouraged.
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Now that the dust has settled, which faction is the funnest to play in 3K in each of the categories
>Coalition
>Governors
>Bandits
>Commies
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Rats > Insects
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Imagine Grace licking your hairy incel balls!
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Anyone want to play multiplayer game with me? wondering how it is like
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post your Legendary 5!
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Reminder that you must ally with elves
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I have never played a Warhammer game, have no intention of playing Warhammer but do pay mind to literally any other fantasy series.
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>>256234283
Its 130 turns in, and I have given up on this campaign. Endless stacks across the river isn't fun to fight against, since it turns into 6+ battles a turn with endless reinforcing stacks (hey look at this dude on the other side of the mountain, hes reinforcing but you cant see in fog!) and the fact that you can't tell how much movement the enemy will have, not that it matters since they will never be out of position for you to engage.

Whats someone with a lot of variety like Cao Cao?
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Imagine
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>>256236597
Setting is shit and the actual games are typically rushed out trash that. You've mad a good choice.
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I love the 3K setting but I hate TW games. I'll stick to Dynasty Warriors and the tv series
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"Reduced Yuan Shao’s desire to vassalise every faction under the sun."
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>>256236708
Liu Biao and Yuan Shu are both in fairly central locations. Yuan Shu is harder since he's an autist with no famous characters and everyone hates him but gets a nice income bonus and legitimacy lets you rush to the endgame faster, Liu Biao has a stronger start but can end up at war with Sun Jian early on.
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>>256236996
As Yuan Shu can i also vassalise that much crap?
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>>256236818
So why the fuck are you even in this thread?
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>>256237258
because it's the 3K general, boy
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>>256237026
Not like I got any rate Pokemon as Cap Cao, I got none of his famous generals. Which one has the most balanced and interesting much of units, me hanics, buildings, and characters?
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>>256236996
That's still less than 10.
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>tfw cao cao'd so well I hit emperor before anyone else reached duke
>other two new empires are scripted to hate me but realistically will abdicate pretty quickly
>the rest of the factions suck my dick because of prior cao cao'ing
>tfw the campaign has become too easy to actually finish
Time for bandit queen or a yellow peasant. I'll flip a coin.
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>>256237330
Sir off-topic posting is against the rules, please leave and kindly take the furries with you.
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>>256237208
You can vassalize that many factions as anyone. Yuan Shao is just one of the few that can do it from the start of the campaign.
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>>256237506
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>>256237352
Sun Jian. Mercenaries actually act different from other units on the campaign map since they're recruited instantly at full strength like mercs in older games, and cover axemen, archers, and cavalry, so you can give any general regardless of type a balanced force. They're also pretty reliable.
He also gets four unique characters-himself, Sun Ce, Sun Quan, and Sun Ren. All of those should be able to last you to the endgame. The only weakness is his start is pretty boring, but you move north and attack other warlords right away if you want.
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It is now June. Saemrath, the time of Zenith, subsumes the glades, and all through the forest are found to be in its febrile grip. The Avatar of Kurnous courses eastward this year. Orion's riders range far afield, the latent wanderlust of the Asrai finding expression in the Wild Hunt.

The wonders of the Old World give way to the industrial horrors of the darklands; a fell land of unremitting toil and deficiencies of height. A world apart, the Asrai press on beyond the wearying vale at some ineffable impulse of Orion's Avatar. Even those of Godly mien can err- the odyssey to the East is rewarded with poor game indeed; vermin monstrous in their mundanity, each alike to the other from within and without. Base creatures whose treachery and upjumped ambition is overawed only by their cowardice, the inhabitants of the chittering lands are forever locked in grasping and petty struggles. Though scores upon scores are ridden down, the ardor of the hunt is dimmed. Orion falters in his purpose, impossibly far from home.

As ever, this and more is divined by Naieth, the chief Soothsayer of the Asrai. Drawn reluctantly from her indulgent observations of the young Prince-and-Emperor, the Prophetess is compelled to answer the forest's need. For there are portents, and there are prophecies.

Lord Packs Soon.
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>>256237330
>>256237671
So you aren't actually interested in Total War: Three Kingdoms at all. You just want to post about other completely off-topic Three Kingdoms games?

...and you don't think that is weird? It would be the equivalent of frequenting the Red Dead Redemption General just to talk about the Alamo over and over again. You're aware that this is a bannable offense on /vg/ right?
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>>256237330
not trying to be rude but can you fuck off? create /eagg/ again if you want to only talk about 3K
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is there a config file where i can change variables? I want to bump up the rng on recruitment events to make them a sure thing. Don't want to go through a liu bie playthrough without zhao yun
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WH3 announcement will be great for driving away the chinks but horrible for bringing back the rats. Med3 when fellow vnderstanders?
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How to get lu bu with bandit queen starting
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>>256238410
rats have never been away, what are you talking about?
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>>256238312
I believe there is already a mod that guarantees the recruitment events to occur on that disgusting hellhole of a site they call Reddit.

I won't sully this general by linking directly to it.
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>>256238410
SEETHING
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>>256238286
>>256237979
seething warhammerfags
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>>256238481
Well they're definitely getting bullied by the chinks hard. The only positive thing about this invasion.
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>>256238481
Rats are here, sure, but not in numbers comparable to the bugs.
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I want to get an SSD on my pc so I can go back to playing WH2
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>>256238536
There is, but it like makes all of the characters you can get appear around the same early turns.

So you get Sima Yi on Wei super early and won't have a high enough court position unlocked to make him happy, so he leaves the next turn
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>>256238598
the chinks were begging yesterday for the ratposting to stop, we control this general from our secret burrows, we are not going anywhere
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>new update
>portrait mod breaks
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>>256238746
Cringe.
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>>256236802
>setting is shit
false
>the actual game are typically rushed out trash
true

>>256236597
I have never played generic weebshit, have no intention of playing generic weebshit but do pay mind to literally any other generic shit.

>inb4 seething
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>>256238410
This is /eagg/ now, get over it.
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>>256238410
It definitely seems like /twg/ has been moving A LOT slower since 3K's launch. I think we lost a sizeable portion of our regular browsers because they didn't want to deal with all the Chink and /eagg/ shit. I know I took a break from /twg/ for a week and felt markedly better for it.

Worst part about it is even after all the Chinks eventually die out (and it does seem like a lot of them have left already after only 2 weeks of incessant shitposting), I'm not sure we'll ever return to what we had until either Warhammer 3 or the next installment of Medieval/Empire.
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ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
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why can't we just play the total war game were prefer and be happy
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>>256238676
It doesn't really help with the turn times
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>>256238538
>>256238552
>>256238843
Please discuss Total War games or create your own general in which you may discuss whatever video game you'd like.

Off-topic posts will be reported.
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The US-Austrian war has reached a turning point as US forces haves landed in Spain and Serbia but the territories can’t be returned as the Austrians still hold France and Belgium with large armies still patrol the countryside. A ceasefire was declared but for how long?
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>>256238818
>Orcs that talk cockney and are actually just spores
>"Lets make this as edgy as possible" unanimously agreed by the writing team.
>Dwarves are literally giants.
>Magic system and lore is complete ass
>Chaos gods are kinda neat but the best you get out of none edgy god figures is "The sun god"

Its a shit setting, man.
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>>256238868
Same, I went away a week before 3chinks launch and only came back two days ago. The pace is definitely lower than what I was used to, even during content draught. Don't mind the chinks much myself (as long as they don't post shitty waifus) but it seems they drove away plenty of old regulars.
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>mad warhammer boomers
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>>256238746
Thank you for your service, ratbro. Whenever people get you down, just look in the mirror and remember that at least you aren't a Chink.
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>>256239006
the absolute state of this general
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>>256239068
I mean, we went from "Warhammer is a cool setting if edgy as hell" to "LITERAL SHIT SETTING EVEN GOT IS BETTER"
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>>256238868
im barely posting because im busy playing a game without 10 minute turn timers
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>>256238970
reddtiors get bored of discussing games so they liek to turn everything into an us vs them tribalism shit hole
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>>256239062
>Orcs are actually spores
thats 40K lore not fantasy
>"Lets make this as edgy as possible" unanimously agreed by the writing team.
fantasy was never edgy retard, not even grimdark, thats 40K
>Dwarves are literally giants.
???
>Magic system and lore is complete ass
opinion
>Chaos gods are kinda neat but the best you get out of none edgy god figures is "The sun god"
the fuck does this mean
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What is /twg/'s opinion on princesses?
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>all this slut art
>but dunno how to rip it out of games
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>>256239208
Cool. I'm barely posting because I hate what this general has become and the people who now frequent it. :)
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lu lingqi mod WHEN
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>>256238428
pls help. Do I go get Chang'An?
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>get hyped for 3K because everyone here says its the best total war game since forever
>play it
>its shit

did I get memed
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>>256239283
They are simply thots to be patrolled
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had my fill of 3k for now, what's the consensus on all the wh2 DLC post-tomb kangz?
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>>256239210
It's painfully apparently that a lot of the new /twg/ browsers came from r/TotalWar.
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>>256238818
lol seething
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>>256239460
do you like vampires? Y/N?
>>256239461
most 3K players are unironic redditors, they link reddit trash here all the time its getting annoying
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>more time to load battles than TWW

Thanks CA, at least those guys do banter and shit before battles though right?

>>256236449
>>256232920
CA will add korea to get those guys to play their game too
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Are schools worthless?
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>>256239460
I really enjoyed the Vampire Coast because I really felt like WH2 needed a more gunpowder-heavy faction. Their infamy mechanic and their final campaign battle are actually pretty fun as well.

The downsides are that a lot of their units are brokenly OP (see: Necrofex Colossus) and Aranessa Saltspine or whatever the fuck her name is was done very lazily. She doesn't feel like she belongs in the faction at all and her roster seems crazy out of place.
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post carpets
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Where is the best place to buy three chinkdoms right now? SCDkey has it for ~$48 but it doesn't list the US as one of the regions, so I'm not sure if that key will activate on steam. Should I just shell out the shekels for full price?
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>>256239391
>everyone here says its the best total war game since forever
Refer to >>256239461
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>>256239718
soulless, shogun 2 carpets still the best
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>>256239247
>fantasy was never edgy retard, not even grimdark, thats 40K
my dude i like fantasy but they had a species that propagated solely by rape at one point

fantasy was nobledark but it still was very very edgy
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>"there are too many different unit rosters" is a criticism of warhammer by historyfags

How can people unironically prefer spearmanii? Is it just being total shit at strategy and tactics that leads them to prefer saminess that they know how to counter?

>>256239626
VP is great and only that one faggot hates it
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Why aren’t you allied with elves
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>>256239391
It certainly seems that way. I'm burning out 3K far faster than I ever did for other Total War games.

Once you realize how half-assed the endgame and certain sub-factions like Han Governors are, it makes you not want to play again. The overwhelming majority of your unique characters will be dead by mid/endgame at which point every single faction is basically identical aside from the Yellow Turbans. The only Yellow Turban who even survives to mid/endgame is Gong Du and he is never a threat, just exists to get steamrolled or be used as a buffer between another kingdom.
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does the new godzilla movie actually focus on godzilla this time instead of dumb army dudes. you saw godzilla fighting for like 5 minutes in the last one
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>>256239752
you asked this last thread and you got answers why are you asking again?
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>>256239283
Shit in battle but great in the campaign due to their skill tree
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>>256239460
Badly until we get ARABY

Ikit is pretty cool though, haven't played lizards because I'm busy playing 3K
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I just killed mannfred immedietly and the rest of his army still survived and fought until they had no hp, I thought the rest of the army died when you killed the lord in vampire counts, I just started playing so can anyone explain the crumble mechanic?
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>>256239783
Dark Elves > High Elves > a massive steaming pile of shit > Wood Elves
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>>256239880
oh sorry, wrong thread
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>>256239934
they're stuck at crumbling which makes their stats pitiful and they begin to take a shitload of hp damage but they don't die instantly
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>>256239880
wrong board?
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>>256240074
Well they didn't take any damage, they just fought with full stats for full 10 minutes
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How come when I select a unit my cursor disappears for a moment when I target an enemy unit?

It's very annoying, and makes it hard to quickly give orders to separate units.
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Reminder that they have to pay Grace to go to Reddit but she lurks here for free
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>>256239934
Literally read the tooltip in-game
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>>256239854
>like Han Governors are
Ma Teng and Ma Chao share the same exact voice actor/lines. Han Governors don't even get a unique victory screen for fuck's sake! They get a recolor of Liu Bei's victory screen. You can't even re-establish the Emperor's rule even if you save him from Chang'an as a Han Governor. CA didn't give a flying fuck about putting in any sort of effort to differentiate them.
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>>256238996

Dunno about that but the load times when you go between campaign and battles is absolutely brutal on my pc for some reason. Can take 5+ minutes.
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>>256239460
Well there was technically only the vamp coast DLC. As for Skaven, all that shit should've been in the game from the very start. But yea, what can I say some people got bored of Ikit but I enjoyed his campaign immensely probably because I almost never played Skaven before his release. The underempire mechanic where you can literally blow up settlements or make serious cash by infesting them is great in terms of map action and choosing which faction is safest to prey.

The Skaven workshop makes already ridiculous units even more OP and the Nuke is just cherry on top. I once deleted 7 whole units in 1 battle when they were grouped up. All in all I enjoyed Ikit more but I was fed up with vamp coast at that point. So if you haven't tried the vampirites you definitely want them first imo.
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>>256239765
>soulless
Those banners sticking in the ground are fucking lit. Get some taste fag
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Who is the weirdest faction you've seen claim an emperor seat in your games?
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>>256239854
use the AI executing less mod
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>>256239934
Crumbling is just morale with a tiny alteration in that units lose hp at various rates instead of routing on low leadership.
Killing the enemy general does give a significant hit to leadership, but if the rest of the army is strong (few losses) and the enemy units had strong leadership to start with, and especially if you are playing on a higher difficulty, the hit is not enough to make them crumble.
Mouse over an enemy unit's leadership after you've killed the general or done something else to see what's affecting it.
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>>256238683
There's one that guarantees you get them but at correct years. Like Sima Yi is supposed to come in between turn 75 and 100 or some shit, all it does is crank up the chance to 100% at turn 75.
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>>256240354
I dont like the banners standing, they should drop to the floor when a unit loses all of its models, would give a more realistic feeling
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>tab out
>game crashes with no message
>browse /twg/ for 5 minutes without realising

Anyone else experience this in 3K?
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>>256240296
Yeah, get a damn SSD, having one should be standard in 2019
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>>256240412
Oh, let me look for that one. Is it in that compilation thread I've seen linked before?
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>>256240296
That will help
But the turn times will always be shit
I can't imagine how long it will take when the three games are combined
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>>256240393
It probably because I recently upped the difficulty to very hard, every other time killing the lord has made the army crumble and die in under a minute,
plus if the lord dies everyone dies in the tabletop so I assumed it's the same here
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>>256240382
In my Liu Bei campaign a random yellow turban rebellion stack took Cao Cao's capital and for some reason it stayed that way until I eventually took it. He simply couldn't be arsed to take it back even though he had armies sitting in close proximity.
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>>256240459
welcome to the total war experience
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>>256240296
Yeah, that's pretty fucking bad. I don't think my load times ever go past 60 seconds with an SSD.

>>256240534
ME in WH3 will be completely unplayable if CA doesn't figure something out.
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>>256239894
I-I wasnt in last thread, what was the answer?...
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>>256240224
Of course, I'll just load it up in the tool tip browser in the main menu
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>>256240734
pirate it you retard and stop buying videogames
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>>256240498
Yea. It's honestly a must have IMO because it sucks to miss legendary generals completely just because of RNG, but it can also fuck with the balance. Like Cao Cao ends up with 5 total legendary generals by turn 6.
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>>256240907
that doesn't seem right

All of his generals (except sima yi I guess) have a chance of appearing that soon, so the mods gives him them that early?
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reminder that LU LINGQI'S MODEL WILL NEVER BE MODDED INTO 3KINGDOMS. Requires a ton of work, new rigging, uvmaps, and a shitload of other things.
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new to three kingdoms

cheap units or good units?
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>>256241139
you can win the game with trash tier units, it doesnt matter, just hammer and anvil
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>>256239391
Total war games are especially rough on release; usually takes awhile for CA to polish everything up which is especially an issue with 3k since they havent released mod tools for it which is what gives them a lot of replayability in the 1st place
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>>256240854
I dont like pirating though
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Be honest with me, are jezzails going to get nerfed again because of Lotus?
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>>256241309
2game with "SmartDonkey" coupon code
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waifu portrait mods when? I can't stand to look at another 18 year old who looks like a grandma or a tweaker
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>>256241139
Cheap units. Every time.

The only reason to get the more expensive units is for flavor purposes if you want a certain general to have a certain entourage that you think looks cool. Otherwise the basic militia units are so fucking strong they will easily hold their own, especially as you rank them up.
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>>256241126
meh, who cares, let's see the Modding Tools first.

also, her model is secondary, her 2D Profile is more important
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What difficulty does twg play in Total warhammer2?
I always try to play highest difficulty but I feel like the computer cheats too much
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>>256241139
Usually any of the dragons you get on the reform trees. But it is often dependent on what buffs your heros have for their retinues as a high level van guard with just peasant raiders can delete units in a single charge
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This is $1 in china, what the flying fuck??
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>>256241458
I could see the Skaven eating another nerf just because of how much people incessantly bitch about MP balance on the CA forums. I really hope they leave Jezzails alone though.

Also, buff rat ogres. They are trash atm.
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>set up ambush 10 feet away from the enemy
>they obviously see it
>they fall for it
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>>256241676
battles on normal or hard, campaign on easy
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>>256241707
100% agree, rat ogres should not be glass cannons damnit they are line breakers they should not die to 1 volley of arrows and have problems killing basic spearmanii
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>>256241676
I usually play on hard for a middle-ground because I completely agree that legendary difficult is just endless amounts of bullshit cheating from the AI.

They'll have like one city left with barely any income but still manage to throw 4 full stacks at me.
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>>256241791
ambushes are broken. i've seen ai cav stand around and do nothing, while my archers won't fire to save their goddamn lives
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where does lu bu usually go after dong zhou? Want to marry him
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>>256239601
Wish they woud buff your research rate for reforms otherwise it feels like i am wasting a build slot
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>>256241139
Some mid tier units are good for formations (mainly infantry), but otherwise cheap is where at. Unit balance is fucked in this game, and it makes an already small roster feel much smaller
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>>256239996
What about Hylians
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>>256241931
your archers probably aren't firing because all your other units are too close
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>>256241961
in my game as bandit queen, he stuck around in the dong successor faction
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>Tactical master making BIG BRAINS moves when it comes to the battle map
>Drooling retard on the campaign map that can't stop over expanding, wasting resources and getting into 8 v 1 wars

SEND HELP
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>>256235629
Are we gonna get hyped about the greyest of seers just to get shoot down by CA again? It's becoming almost comical.
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Does anyone else have an extremely difficult time getting ships to land in Rome II?
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>>256241707
no jezzails need to have their defensive stats nerfed, too much armor, silver shields, and 30 mdef on something that can be easily protected by trash
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>>256241576
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>>256242245
Yeah it's fucked m8
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>>256239996
High Elves > Wood Elves > Dark Elves

>>256242040
sheikah > Hylians > High Elves > Wood Elves > Dark Elves
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>>256240593
it varies, but you also have to kill heroes too, since im pretty sure that vampire heroes have encourage
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nerf towers
nerf cav
buff formations
buff commanders with formations and trebs

play records
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>>256241060
There's him, Xiaohu Dun, Xiaohu Yuan starts in his recruitment pool, Dian Wei and Xu Chu both have a change to appear from turn 3 or 4.
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>>256242205
Is going to be a good day when Thanquol gets released, my #1 pick for a lord pack but CA hates him for some reason.
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>>256241458
Yes-Yes...
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>>256242316
are you going to link it or just leave me hanging, buddy? all the files I've found are busted archives, is that a chink thing?
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>>256242317
It's a shame because the rest of the game is pretty good.
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>>256242335
Aren’t Sheikah just warrior elves
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>>256242448
nerf trebs
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>>256241676
Legendary. I know people meme about the cheats(and yes the AI does cheat) but the game is just too easy even of VH. They're pretty much the same but on legendary everyone has a hard-on for trying to kill you.
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>>256242495
>that pic
my sides fuck you lotus
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>2 Warhammer Games
>0 LoTR mods
>0 TES mods
>0 WC mods
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>>256242501
I'll link it if you prostrate yourself before your chink overlords and declare that you swear your loyalty to the 3kangz and denounce wamham
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>>256241676
Legendary, but mainly because I've gotten to go at it to play anything else. Playing 3 kings on Hard atm because I'm still learning it
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>>256242501
Skaven would be destroyed by Khajiits
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>>256242287
the armor is fine and there is nothing wrong with silver shields, being protected by trash is literally how all skaven machinery work, if you reallly are complaining about that lets nerf all skaven ranged units then
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>>256242842
>eat rat
>die of ultra mega pox

amazing
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>>256237330
then fuck off i'm a DW nigger too but i'm here cause i enjoy total war if you just want to talk about 3K then make eagg again
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>>256242842
Considering how much of a bunch of junkies Khajiits are, in all due likely they'll end up snorting warpstone and becoming buddies with the Skaven.
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>>256243169
based integrator
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>>256243113
Khajiit literally eat crack so I’m pretty sure their immune system is not really gonna care
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>>256239283
>using heroes
>not playing as dwarfs and using nothing but siege weapons
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>>256242786
i can't denounce my dreadfu tho...
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Defenders of Earth absolutely rape lower tier infantry. I corner camped and none of the enemy reached melee range with any of my units even though they were all in loose formation.
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>>256235629
Guys I can't find info on this anywhere. My friend just bought the game so we could coop but it just won't download. It stops at 200 mb everytime when he tries to install. Does anyone know what's up, he has more than twice enough enough space on his ssd.
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>>256242467
They are probably saving him for something else, not that the rivalries CA implements ever make any sence so it's anyone's guess really, him being in Lustria would have made sence since he has a whole novel set up around Lustria, but still then again CA's rivalries make 0 sence whatsobloodyever
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>11th rematch
How to successfully cheese city seige? I need this win. No firearrows. Have trebuchet but their trebuchet kills mine. Mine is level 1. Army is severely outnumber
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>>256243271
Why would the Khajiit do that? Don’t they hate rats in game like actual cats do
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>>256243795
Reinstall steam
Delete steam folder etc
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>>256243770
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>>256244124
split your army up around the city, make sure your treb is near a corner. When the battle starts, determine where the treb is, then move your army else where. It's got a narrow field of fire and you can safety ignore it
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>>256244469
my new strat is run around wasting those trebuchet ammo
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>>256242316
>Ancilliary: Titjob Specialist
>"to be good at some things means you have to be bad."
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Just won my first campaign as Cao Cao. Took me 43 hours and was a lot of fun.
Where do I go from here? Kinda want to play as the Bandit Queen or maybe Kong Ron. What's a good start to turtle and build a strong economy without expanding much?
Also, is there any way to speed up reforms?
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>>256244269
He already went through all that, other games install fine.
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>>256241458
You can always go to the forum and argue with the faggot about it. It's the only way to deal with this shit really
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>>256244882
Yuan Shao

His Captain mechanic is a lot of fun
be sure to install a 15TPY mod or he'll die of old age before you have conquered the North
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>>256244236
Khajiits mostly hate the Dunmer for enslaving them and to some degree the Argonians because fantastic racism and whathaveyou, I don't remember ever being a ratfolk race in the elder scrolls, there's the Akaviri serpent people and the rest are all elfs and humans. On the other side of the coin basically everyone hates the Khajiits because they have a tendendency to consume moonsugar, skooma and steal stuff, for example in some places they can't even set foot inside cities.
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>Heroic Siege Defense
never got this screen before, pretty neat.
Why are the illustrations so much cooler than the actual models, I wish my troops had armour as nice as this
I hope they bring back armour smi
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>>256244347
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why is the river in the middle of the map to the north so yellow? the one in the south is blue, is it just my monitor?
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When are we getting feet reloading animations for crossbowmen?
>As a result of the increasing effectiveness of iron weapons and armour, shields and axes became less common. The efficiency of crossbows, however, outpaced any progress in defensive armour. It was considered a common occurrence in ancient China for commoners or peasants to kill a lord with a well aimed crossbow bolt, regardless of whatever armour he might have been wearing at the time.
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>>256245164
>I hope they bring back armour smi
OH NO SOMEONE KILLED THE COMMANDER
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>>256239601
Yes because it'll make your weaker generals stronger, but then they'll be dis satisfied with their position in court.

I also wish schools boosted reform rate. Since Reforma seem pretty slow.
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>>256241480
Thanks senpai
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>>256245181
>why is the river in the middle of the map to the north so yellow?
no idea, not like it's called the Yellow River or anything
>the one in the south is blue
because of the Soil, Yellow River flows through the sandy north close to the Gobi desert, and the soil in northern China is also very yellow-ish and sandy, meanwhile the South has less sand and clay in it's soil and more actual rock, so the river stays clearer.
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>>256245181
>why is the yellow river yellow ?
beats me
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>>256239765
>soulless
Well, it is China
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>>256245492
>the water is actually yellow!
are you guys trying to pull a fast one on me
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>>256245317
>>256245164
I meant to post
"I hope they bring back armour smithies visually upgrading your troops" but the auto post cut me off
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>>256241593
Militia don't get formations, so checkmate for fun. But yeah militia are too effective for their cost.
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>>256245552
are you a dunce?
there are yellow rivers all over the world, especially in deserty- and sandstony regions
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>>256244004
yeah they are probably saving him for something else, one of the reasons I think Thanquol is not in the game yet is because he as a lord pack doesn't bring units like Ikit or Throt but he is too important and unique to be included as FLC, he is in limbo basically.

and yes CA rivalries don't make sense, they just use that as an excuse for some reason.
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>>256242985
70 armor is 50% damage reduction, with 55% block rating, meaning that theyll only 30% damage from small arms fired, and also considering that its easy for skaven to deny charge bonus, with 30 mdef and any cav that isnt chaos knight tier has ~30 matk or lower, which means that theyll only take 15% melee damage, these are damage defensive values for a unit that is essentially an artillery piece, that you can then defend with more chaff units. so this unit can only be countered by something fast, high matk, and ap damage, which are heavy cav, which are units you should be shooting at with jezzails, and since they have shield breaker they can take out any heavy cav fairly quickly
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and the Yangtze is not entirely blue, it is actually mostly green
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>>256245552
holy shit, the water is actually yellow
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>>256245348
>I also wish schools boosted reform rate.

This so much.
Also trade shouldn't become so useless in late game. I could only do 4/8 trade routes since there were so few factions left and even fewer I wasn't at war with.
Maybe allow trade outside the map or between your own cities or something.

Would also be cool if you could broker deals between vassals so they trade territories so the map looks less patchy in the end.
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>>256245552
>>256245893
China is magical place
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>>256245348
By the late game you should be running the final piety assignment mixed with food production boosts so it's not much a problem.
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>>256246053
that's fake fuck you chigga fool me twice nuh uh fuck off
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>>256245492
The magic of industrial polution!
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>>256246316
that picture definitely has some contrast fuckery going on, but they're real
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>>256246496
That looks manmade, the lines are way too perfect.
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>>256245992
More reason to keep vassals then, would be nice to be able to create vassals out of admins to fight corruption and generate a trade partner.
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>>256246594
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_China
its fucking real, what the fuck
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>>256245992
>Maybe allow trade outside the map
would be neat, like trade points we had in empire-shogun, but alas without boats that is not possible

they could do a similar thing but instead of sea routes you gwt Border Checkpoints which you can garrison with an army, and depending on it's size you get more trade income from controlling that point, perhaps add a little building chain to the point.
Xiognu give Horse bonus
Koreans give Iron
Nanyue give spices and rice
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FUCK YOU CAO CAO FUCK YOU AND YOUR ANTI PLAYER BIAS
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>>256246609
your administrators ask for independence at times and they become vassals
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who is the most insignificant little shit i can play as in Three Kingdoms
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>>256246962
Bandit Queen
Kong Rong
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>>256246962
Liu Biao
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>Lategame hits
>Don't have a coalition, but the other ones are already at war with each other
This is going to be a blood bath, playing as Cao Cao.
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>>256245148
There was a Canine race. But they are supposedly extinct. Also the Akaviri are still around they’re also human ones running around with them
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>>256244124
>no superiority in firepower
>no superiority in numbers
>no superiority in quality
>attack a city

I'm not sure you deserve that win. What the fuck are you even doing?
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>>256244124
Sun Tzu says attacking walled cities is for fucking retards
yet here you are
Sun Tzu says attacking a foe you do not outnumber 3 to 1 is for retards
yet here you are
That being said, keep your trebs out of range, shrek hid treb with archers, then move your trebs forward to create an opening
also you should bring shield guards with turtle formation as they can take the breach
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>Sun Jian mission and story dilemma lead you towards the worst way of playing him
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>>256247181
Thought I can win by cheesing it. Saw a streamer did a cheese strat. I can't cheese it though. Too many Calvary. end up loading an old file and going to level up till I get fire arrow
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>want to set up an epic siege defense
>entire enemy army is destroyed by wall defenses while I have all my units set up in the city

The enemy had 18,000 units at the start. I just quite out of boredom.
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>>256242786
>>256242501
Fuck off, dumb cunts. Wasting everyone's time instead of doing something productive. It's a shitty, incomplete mod anyway, all the portraits mods so far are incomplete and half baked.

bbs.3dmgame dot cum /forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5894587

>h-how do I download???

Just click the link you stupid fuck. You don't need to do anything fancy.
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>>256247583
get the tower nerf mod, it changed my game completely
they go from being the deciding force of any siege battle to minor nuisances(as 4-5 archers in a tower should be)
also doesn't turn every defense in an EZ win
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>>256247610
>tfw no big titted han dynasty wife
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>>256247781
The problem with nerfing towers is that sieges sort of become irrelevant. Garrison and walls aren't enough a defence vs a fulls stack, because CA sucks at designing sieges. The towers are a crutch, but they're the only reason sieges actually favour the defender
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what reform path is most important to go for first on cao cao
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>>256247610
>implying your time is worth jack shit
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>>256248213
>Garrison and walls aren't enough a defence vs a fulls stack
they can put up quite a fight with admin garrison, and clutch victories are still possible, but not as simple as holding the attackers infront of the towers anymore
the map geometry still favours the defender, and chokepoints can fuck you up with how effective even Ji Militia is at holding ground, but you're not guaranteed to lose 60% of your force to tower fire anymore
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>>256248526
Without towers though, we return to sieges were, once again, its better to abandon the walls and turtle in the streets, which is ridiculous. Towers at least give me incentive to hold the walls
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Towers are fine
They give you an actual advantage as defender and make it harder as the attacker
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>>256248213
Towers can be made less effective without making them useless
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>>256242043
I'm pretty sure archers are bugged in ambushes. They need to be manually ordered to fire every target
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>>256248718
why would you abandon the walls? you are actually encouraged to hold the walls when the towers are weaker because the interior towers won't do anywhere enough damage to advancing troops

And if your enemies catches one of your towns without a peoper garrison in it, should you really be allowed to keep ir just by cheesing his full stack with OP towers?
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>>256247583
What battle difficulty?

I've had the AI burn down towers that were in their way.
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why are skaven so cute? is it the way they talk? or because they are rats?
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>>256249123
it's due to your mental illness
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>>256248920
Just tested it out. Seems you're correct. My bad anon.
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>Darren wrote a positive review for Three Kingdoms Total Wart
What the fuck?! How did they buy off Darren?
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>>256248928
Because being able to narrow down what units can fight you via chokepoints is stupidly powerful, way more powerful then towers unless they are OP mg42 towers. So long as infantry can auto climb walls, there's no point to holding them because your troops will be completely overwhelmed by the sheer number of troops that can scale walls
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>>256247583
How is there 4 Zhuge Liangs in this battle?! Is this a trick of Sima Yi?!
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>>256249384
>Three Kingdoms Total Wart

disgusting
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I'm playing Chow Chow
Do I go North and Kill off Liu Bei and Kong Rong
Far North and kill off Yuan Shao
Go south and start cleaning up the Han territory before Sun Jian
Or East and Kill Liu Bei and Yuan Shu

Also unrelated, does anyone have a link for an article or youtube video with all the trailers/announcements from E3?

I missed it and R E D D I T doesn't have one as far as I can tell
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>Defenders of Earth burning down all my towers

Good thing they absolutely annihilated everything.
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>>256248842
They need to feel more threatening visually. A small cloud of arrows instead of sniper shots.
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>>256249401
Yea I don't like that at all. They should get some kind of penalty for that like making them tired or something. Do they get any penalty for climbing the walls like that?
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>>256249573
Go south and take the Chen farmland, then go east and take the walled settlment, then beat up Tao fuckers as part of the story. Then focus on going south while being friends with Lie Bei, otherwise Sun Jian will eat everything. Proxy War Yuan Shao against some big, like Yuan Shu or Lie Bei to hold him up for a while. Make friends with Sun Jian, then go north
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>>256249573
Go north and take Pencheng first, then kill Tao Qian
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I'm sorry, but what the FUCK is on his head?
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>>256249587
I think exhaustion penalties but that's it. Shogun 2 did it alright, where the unit would take casualties as it climbed, but its still a shitty system
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>>256249479
It's custom battle.
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I can marry and divorce and remarry right? Like I marry Zhang Fei, take him, then divorce him and find Lu Bu. They won't leave my faction right?
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>>256247096
Happens to me everytime I try Cao Cao, which turns mid/late game into a slog. Liu Bei also turns into carnercerous tumour that gets rid of all independent lords of the realm though he won't declare war on you.
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>>256235629
Does anyone still remember?
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>>256249575
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>Everyone who likes total war has left
>3chinks is boring as shit
>there are only chinamen here
>and ratfags
>after Thrones flopping and the fantasy games selling record amounts there is no hope for a new history game this decade
I just want Attila 2.0 in a different time period.
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>>256251184
>there is no hope for a new history game this decade
Yes, weeb nigger bastard, they probably won't release another historical TW in the next 6 months.
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>>256251184
fuck history
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>>256247116
The Lilimoth? Yeah they were in Black marsh, but I think either the Argonians or the marshes claimed them, they were some kind of fox people. The giant rats of TES live mostly in sewers and since Elswyr is mostly arid deserts and jungles I don't think the Khajiit have much interactions with rodents.
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>>256251184
>attila 2.0
The fuck do you think 3 kings is? Just play records if you don't like fantasy shit
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>>256249123
Their ratty appereance and comical disposition makes them likeable despite the fact in reality they are cruel and scheming creatures.
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I don't get where I am supposed to do as my starting moves as Yuan Shu, I feel like I sit around waiting too much in the early game as legendary. His capital seems highly vulnerable, should I just be rushing Tier 4 and trading for the two food? or do I head east to for Chen to cover the food and get a trade deal with the Cao Cao while rushing t4 settlement and then doing the Liu Bao storyline to expand south?
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In a sea of drab/mediocre armor, the Youxia have top tier armor. Armor in robes will always be sexy as fuck. Now if only they robes were in colors outside piss yellow. And for most infantry to have this armor.
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>>256246835
Mine never do as I select them based on how big of cucks they are.
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Help me find good art to make a portrait mod, anons. I'd like to use something like Romance of the three kingdoms xii portraits for guys but have a few slutty ones.
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>>256246642
have you literally never read a book about geology in your life?
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he has no self awareness
>drawkiting=fun gameplay
>using a one-dimensional gimmick character that is really blatant at what it's going to do and can be dodged due to how slow he is and his long spell ramp=toxic
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>>256252537
Ah shit forgot my pic.
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>>256241706
like hell!
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>>256251586
It plays nothing like it you squinty eyed fuck, go back to posting your shitty CG waifus.
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>>256251184
At least we might have Wh3 by this time next year...
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>>256249587
They do get exhaustion, the problem is walls are retarded to hold because your units eventually get surrounded. You also can't get use archers very well because they get one, maybe two volleys off before they're at the walls.
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>>256252686
>a ten million year windup spell with a massive blindingly obvious indicator is somehow undodgeable cancer that MUST be nerfed
>drawkiting is perfectly fine though gaise
FUCK mp and FUCK elfniggers
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>>256252802
That's not history lad. Warhams 3 could be good as it has Orges and Chorfs but I want a good history game. Chances are they'll see 3chinks success and give the future game the same weightlessness to combat.
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>army gets fucked by towers during a siege
>quit
>fags think this is better than memehammer

But hey it's more than one wall right?
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>>256252661
why the fuck would anyone believe in vertical striations
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>>256252686
Seriously, how the fuck is Kroak an issue?
He can get sniped by range and spells because of his slow speed and limited cast range and his spells take forever to go off along with being really apparent with what you're doing and can just dodge the infantry lines because lizardmen are a slow faction
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>>256253006
Warhammer has really fun battles sometimes, but the campaign is so mind-numbingly boring it's a drain to play.
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>>256252903
What about fucking elves?
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What's an end game stack for Rome in Rome 2 look like? To be honest I can't find much reason to use anything other than praetorians/eagle cohort, and maybe a few cav/artillery.
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>>256252854
You should be able to put archers inside the towers like in Age of Empires
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>>256249936
looks like a lunch box
very practical
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>>256236597
Warhammer (not Age of Smegmar) is the best generic fantasy (elves, dwarves, magic n shit) setting.
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>>256253250
basically, heavy infantry spam and a few cav to mop up. It's pretty braindead because roman troops are so good
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>>256253043
I kinda understand the one wall memery, but at the same time, it's not like it's that common that you attack more than one wall anyway. GCCM proves that what warhammer desperately needs is better and unique siege maps, because just that small sprinkling of variety massively improves things
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Liu Bei was nothing if not determined. He was a man who never let loss keep him down. He found and exploited opportunities and never let a chance slip through his fingers. He was a man of very strong character, who inspired people to follow him through thick and thin. He had many followers who stuck with him after countless losses, and this ability to cultivate loyalty was truly remarkable. On his determination and charisma alone, he managed to survive the chaos that claimed far more talented men and became one of the last men standing.

But that’s about all the good to say about him. As a commander, he was sub-par. While he experienced success against minor foes early in his life, Liu Bei was defeated time and time again by uncounted generals. He was knocked back and forth all across China, usually with no more effort than swatting a fly. Though he held significant territory for a few months in 215, he was reduced to only a handful of commanderies just eight years later. His only significant military victories were the work of Pang Tong and Fa Zheng, and without them he was nothing.

Liu Bei was also a man with absolutely no morals whatsoever. He betrayed his superiors and allies time and time again. He defected from Gongsun Zan to Tao Qian (194), then betrayed his alliance with Lü Bu (198), revolted against Cao Cao (199), abandoned Yuan Shao (200), turned on Liu Zhang (212-214), and violated Sun Quan’s trust many times. He abandoned his family to his enemies on four separate occasions (196, 198, 200, and 208), even leaving his infant son to the mercy of his worst enemy. He plundered Chengdu, he allowed his followers to kill, rape, and steal as they wished, and he murdered his own adopted son because he found him inconvenient. He was a man with no loyalty to anyone but himself. He was greedy, treacherous, selfish, and quite simply evil.

It is simply amazing that a man like Liu Bei became the hero of the story because by all rights, he should be the villain.
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>>256253750
Braindead it might be, but I'll admit I have a lot of fun slow marching 3,000 praetorian guard across the map to butcher some barbarians.
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>>256251184
Fuck off. Have sex.
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>>256252691
Looks like shit. Heavy Ji and heavy crossbowmen have the coolest armor.
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>>256253909
Cao Cao was right.
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>>256252686
>Kroak again
This dude sure hates Kroak, didn't they nerf him twice already?
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>>256251184
lol I hope history dies so fags like you stop shitting up this franchise any more than it deserves to be
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>>256254260
Get fucked

>>256251184
I'm playing rome 2 my dude.
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>tfw killing unbreakable units down to the last man
It's always sort of sad watching units form a circle and then slowly watch the circle get smaller and smaller as everyone dies.
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>>256254260
Rich coming from a chink.
>>256254509
>Rome 2
Not really my jam, I keep coming back to playing desert kingdoms in Attila.
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>>256250579
They'll stay in your faction as long as their satisfaction doesn't drop too low.
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>>256254649
Fair. Attila is good mechanically but I'm not much of a fan of the time period. Medieval or mongol invasion era with attila mechanics would be great.
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>>256253268
That would solve the tower issue easily. No archers garrisoned there? No tower shots. The archers in the tower would give them a more universal firing arc and additional protection. Towers overlooking ladders = Murder spree
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>>256254509
God this game is hideous. How the fuck did CA manage to follow up something as beautiful as Shogun 2 with this grotesque mess.
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>>256254819
Attila isn't even mechanically that good. The game suffers from a lot of deterministic systems. Corruption was absolutely dreadful before it got nerfed, but it also has the sanitation on top of climate system alongside public order and spreading your religion. Too much going on in the campaign map, on top of things like the enemy retreating three turns away from you, or the fact that hun horse archers outranged other archers.
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Playing as Naggarond on vanilla what is going on
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>Playing as Liu Biao
>Go the happy merchant route and focus on Yuan Shu and Cao Cao early on
>Everyone on the south that was left allied with Sun Jian and declared war on me
>Take advantage of them being at war with Yuan Shao and form a coalition with him, had to give him Nanyang a level 4 city on the early game though
>Keep trading and giving free stuff to Dong Zhuo while protecting half Han Lands from Sun Jian military expansion
>Keep Yuan Shao Vassals really poor with trade deals
>Killed Sun Jian and won the defensive war against him and the minors faction that were near me
>Make pace with Sun Ce and managed to become best friends trough marriage and randoms deals with people that he liked

Finally have Peace, i just need to buy one city from Liu Bei and I'll hold all the defensive chokes/roads against Sun Ce Yuan Shao got Kong Rong and Liu Bei as vassals and has the two chokes and roads to the north.
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Fuck history shit (especially chingchong wannabe-history), it kills factions variety.
Next Total War after WH3 should be 40k.
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Is everyone in 3K schizophrenic or is my campaign fucked?
They keep vassalizing/liberating each other in turns like it's a fucking game of musical chairs.
Ignore me and don't want anything to do with me.
Declaring war on each other while each side has half the map vassalized, then swap vassals and making peace without much territories being traded around.
Liu Bei has vassalized Cao Cao, Kong Rong and Sun Jian, only to liberate them, go to war with them then vassalize them again and repeat the process.
This is utter madness as I watch from the side and build up my forces.
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>>256255362
game broke
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>>256251184
The next total war probably will be a setting where CA can keep shoving warrior womances & waifoos down our throats.
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>>256255626
Bitch no, it's going to be LOTR or dragon age. Hell, imagine what a MINECRAFT TOTAL WAR might end up like...
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>>256255672
You know it was called a period of Chaos for a reason, right anon?
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>>256255626
It most likely wouldn't work with the total war formula as units in 40k operate in loose formations instead of blobs or perfect square formations of infantry at squad sized units instead of large formations. Still the sheer variety of units would make for such scummy DLC policies that the final game would end up around 1500 CAD, you could make 1 DLC just with the varieties of Leman Russ tanks.

And yeah fuck history shit.
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Darren is a fucking pathetic cunt who sold his souls to CA. I was expecting an honest review. He was payed for a positive impression
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>>256255786
You are delusional, what we need is total war: bionicle.
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>>256253159
dont forget he dies in melee combat really easily and unbreakable is a detriment if youre not paying attention to him
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Prehistoric Total War when?
Grugs vs Neanderthals vs animals vs Proto-Jews Lizardmen vs Aliens who crash landed on Earth
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>Thought 3K would bring history and fantasy together
>Instead everyone's a fag instead and the threads degenerate into even more shitflinging
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>>256251184
imagine being such a cuck you would willingly pay money for boring """""men"""""" hitting eachother with simple swords

PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAthetic
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>>256257240
It's just a few dedicated shitposters. We go through cycles of threads with little shitposting to threads filled with shitposting.
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>>256254415
yes but he saw a image of kroak fucking his elf waifu so now he won't let it rest
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>>256257240
Both fanbases are simply incompatible, and people that like both prefer to avoid the thread for the state it is in.
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If you play the campaign map very well

Consider yourself a Statesman.

If you play the battlefield well

consider yourself a muscleheaded retard.

1 Great Statesmen is worth 100 generals.
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>>256258649
shut the fuck up kongming you choose a retard as your successor
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>>256258348
Why? I've enjoyed WH1/2 for years and now I'm enjoying 3K. Don't understand why people formed cliques that started to shit on each other.
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>>256257240
>3k is takes the worst of history and fantasy
>this will surely build bridges between both groups
Also most people here (before the chink invasion) play both history and fantasy.
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>>256258649
You say that but Alexander the great was very much a good general and a bad statesman.
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>>256241139

>Defenders of Earf or guardians of heaven, the ones with the bows firing oil bombs, are insanely powerful. But not able to replace regular archers given their range is 100. Take 1-2.
>Heavy Crossbows are worth the upgrade. Archers over Archer militia is eh.
>Spear guards are fine, no obligation to take heavy spears
>Always felt like all ji are glass cannons so I'd never really want to field anything short of heavy ji.
>No reason to use anything past sword militia cav
>Sword infantry feel like a good idea to upgrade if you can afford it.
>Lancers feel as fragile as regular lancers, so no reason to upgrade them.

>>256243770
Ostensibly balanced by their range but they rape any infantry I find. That aoe damage just massacres units.

>>256245595
It's bland but I still wish every unit had the standard
Militia/unarmored
armored
heavily armored

Hierarchy that Ji have.
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>>256254963
The same way they managed to follow Warhammer's clean and intuitive UI with this art deco abomination in 3K
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how to figure out why a general is not happy with the other general?
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>100 hours into the game
>Just realized there are "sets" that give extra bonuses if all equipped
>Just realized what each stat actually gives you inside and outside of combat
>Been playing Legendary the entire time.
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>>256257240
Warhammer does better job at bringing fantasy and history together with human factions' aesthetics.
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TOTAL WAR: HORUS HERESY
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>>256260494
I just figured out what the Threat icon meant, and how to handle it. My life just got a lot easier.
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>>256261309
I don't see how that'd work but Istvaan III would be the shit if they could pull it off.
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He's vassalised half the map, and now he wants his money. It's time to...
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Did Big K really had a blood-raging boner for Valkia? He saved and favored her overall in so many occasions.
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I've never had Dian Wi spawn for me, is there a prerequisite to recruiting him as Cao Cao?
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>>256262167
fucking kek
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Are there good mods for 3K yet?
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>>256260494
Why was Zhuge allowed to be so beautiful?
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Where is my zhenji anon poster waifu?
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Why aren't there any generic female Vanguards or Champions?

I need more wives for all of my sons goddammit.
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>>256262276
she beheaded a daemon prince of slaanesh and then precedes to go all the way to the entrance to the realm of chaos and give khorne its head, where she died
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>>256261639

Explain
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=502375278
Stop viewing pornographic content.
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>>256264403
There’s a little green triangle in the diplomacy screen for the AI. It’s colour ranges from green to orange, red when a war. It shows you how much of a threat they currently are towards you. If it’s orange they’re probably going to declare war on their turn. Let’s you know who’s going to try and fuck you. More important, if you bring the colour down, to yellow or green, they won’t declare on you. As Sun Jian, I’ve been Cao Cao little gifts every turn or two to bring him from orange back down to green so I don’t have to fight him (yet). Saved me from having him bring 3 coalition allies to come fuck me up. Anyway, pay attention to it every turn and diplomacy becomes a lot easier.
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Someone give me a save with lots of female commanders so I can test my waifu mod
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How do you defend against civil war in Rome 2? Or is it just something that's supposed to happen every 60 turns or so? As far as I could tell I was doing great, public order was maxed out all over, and I had high approval ratings.
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>>256265326
You share power to reduce the likelihood of it happening, but you ultimately just have to deal it with happening, from memory anyway
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OH NO NO NO CAO CAOLETS
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Oh no no no chinabros we got too cocky...
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>>256266404
>not even a month after release and its already fucking dead
chinabros how did this happen to us
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>>256266498
>38,000 is dead
What?
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>>256266848
>losing 160 thousand players in a couple of weeks is normal
okay chang
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did they give up updating this game because it got decent reviews?
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>>256266890
the 24 hour peack is still 81k from 191k after 3 weeks. Which is a retention rate 3 times better than tw warhammer...
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>>256267165
DELETE THIS
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>>256267165
except it keeps going down by tens of thousands every single day, not to mention Warhammer is a shit game too
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>>256267165
why are people jizzing over play numbers?

Only games with truly high long-term play numbers are inherently online in nature
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Just reinstalled Attila
what should I do
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In 3K is it supposed to be impossible to catch an army that is running around raiding in my territory? I never have enough movement to catch them after they retreat. What am I missing?
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>players will stop playing before the mod tools are even released
>mod potential of the game is ruined
Bravo, CA.
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>>256267406
Uninstall and play Shogun 2
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>>256267353
because it's a zero effort way to gain (you)s and no matter what gives you chances to shitpost
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>>256241707
And buff cold one knights.
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>>256267460
>what am I missing
Nothing. It’s fucked. we all use the backspace exploit to deal with it. Just before your army makes contact with the enemy and initiates battle, hit back space to cancel movement. This let’s you stop inside their zone of control. On their turn they’ll be inside your zone of control and can’t move without attacking you. On your next turn you can attack them, and if they retreat you’ll have all your movement to catch them. It’s fucked.
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>>256267837
That is not an exploit though
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How do I not get my shit pushed in as Huang Shao?
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>>256267460
Literally use ambush. Jesus fucking christ this is how you always catch force marching armies, even in Warhammer 2 where the AI will always try to out distance you.
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>>256267563
See a therapist before your black pill kills you.
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should I run sentinel vs Champ and Vanguard vs Commander? third slot is reserved for strategist
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>>256238868
>It definitely seems like /twg/ has been moving A LOT slower since 3K's launch
I'm pretty most people moved back to /v/. E3 literally just ended you know.
Also, with the rampant state of shitposting in this thread, I'd rather discuss and ask shit on the TW forums. You'll get no meaningful answers in this place since half the people here don't even play 3K or let alone TW in general.
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>>256267837
Oh ok thanks for the tip. It's pretty strange how CA could fuck up something that basic.
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>>256269069
You're supposed to ambush them.
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>>256268184
I've never had that problem in total war games.
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>>256255672
is probably Cao Cao or Yuan Shu pulling the strings, those scheming cunts love chaos
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>>256269202
You also have to take into account some mind games. Simply chasing the AI on the campaign with the intent to attack it will be fruitless since it will always know how much movement points you have.
However, baiting it to move somewhere you want by pretending to disengage almost always works i.e. purposely leaving an undefended settlement nearby while you wait in ambush.
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>>256267837
ty anon, have a putin
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>>256268576
>half the people here don't even play 3K or let alone TW in general
Nah. It's just that Warhammer is much more liked here than 3chinks. Everyone was saying it early on and prior to 3K's release that they didn't agree that CA pours resources into a game like this instead of hastening Warhammer TW 3
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whats the best way to use the polybolos in rome 2? Seems like it would be good for anti cav, I'm guessing.
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>>256257240
No rest for the ratfags, no retreat for the /eagg/
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>>256267941
I reckon it is, but even if it isn’t it’s counter-intuitive as fuck. You can’t move inside an enemy’s zone of control unless you click to attack them. If you sit on the edge of their’s, they’ll be on the edge of yours and they’ll still be able to move. So the only way you end up in the situation I mentioned is if you click to attack them then slam backspace in the narrow between entering the ZoC and initiating battle. Hardly something obvious and easy to figure out.
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>people complaining about catching forced marching armies being hard
>not having 1 or 2 additional armies on stand by
Let me guess, you're also the same fags saying that capturing Lahmia as Khalida is fucking hard because you all force yourselves to besiege it with only one army, despite the fact that you can already raise 1 additional tomb king during that time.
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>>256267460
After a few turns they start taking attrition, and if you have built your settlements well enough you can just let them slowly die as they don't have an army to siege you.
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>>256265752
>Cao Ahman! Show yourself!
>but I'm right here..
>Cao Ahman! You spineless coward, step forward and fight me!
>but I'm right here you you double Xiognu!
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>>256265752
>this guy keeps appearing in my court with new shit he pillaged from other lords
>hire him, take his shit and fire him as I've done a hundred times already
>he's in his fifties and he's still hoping
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>>256269918
>1 or 2 extra stacks defending
>at the start of the game where you can barely afford one
Yeah, we get that you love the game. But you don’t need to defend every single aspect of it. Being able to retreat in forced march is completely shite and slows the game down to a crawl.
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>>256270285
Anon, you do realize you can split away your retinue from your main army right? That's the entire purpose of retinues in the first place. It's a bandaid to people complaining since Rome 2 that you can't split your armies.
If you're find it so hard to catch an enemy, simply detach a vanguard retinue with lots of cav since they more movement points. Use the other slower army to bait the AI into wasting his movement points, then use the vanguard to initiate the battle, with your main army nearby reinforcing them.
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>>256270285
Also, I'm saying this for Total War as a whole. It's so fucking mind boggling how people here keep bitching about the AI force marching away from your army for fucking years, and then it turns out they're just mindlessly chasing the AI with ONE army. I've seen it before with Attila, I've seen it before with Warhammer, and now I'm seeing it again with 3K and people still can't adapt to basic cat and mouse
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>>256270285
I agree, retreat on marching stance should be impossible
I would go even further and add a 30% chance to ambush on Marching Stance
not only that, but in difficult terrain forced march should also cause attrition

Sun Tzu even says that if you force march your army through uncertain ground you should expect 1 out of 3 to be lost to various causes.
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>>256245210
Seems odd that the West and East had such different approaches, the Greeks had heavy crossbows for sieges but just made armour and shields heavier in response whilst they seem to have been abandoned to a degree in the East.
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So lemme get this straight

Lu Bu
>'muh waifu' and a compulsive liar

Liu Bei
>'good guy' that does a bunch of evil shit

Yuan Shao
>'good guy' that is actually really imcompetent

Cao Cao
>schemer that keeps getting away with it

Sun Jian
>the actual best bro of the romance that gets murdered early on
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>>256270508
>>256270724
>>256270285
THIS. honestly having to chase after them with a superior army is annoying as fuck, but it's a strategy game for fuck's sake, you have to outmaneuver them
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>>256248920
I think they auto fire during ambushes only when they are in the open. As soon as they are hidden they don't fire at will even if battle is already going.

What really sucks about ambushes is that the enemy force will not simply match through to the end it you don't engage. I ambushed a vastly superior force (my ambush was more of an attempt to hide my army that was out of position) and thought I'd let half their army pass through before engaging. They had lots of cavalry in the front and many weakened infantry and only one hero in the back.
Turns out if you don't engage, the enemy army will march for a bit and then just stop and form up a bit, facing the forrests.
I won anyway because my trebs got insanely lucky and instagibbed their vanguard and champion in the first shot, leaving me to deal with only a strategist and a shakened force.

It makes sense from a realistic pov that an army won't just march through and then not return if parts of it are attacked. But it should be an option. Kinda like they're saving their own skin and leaving a few men behind to cover the retreat or whatever.
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>>256270882
you forgot
Cao Cao
>did nothing wrong
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>>256245210
>>256270875
western civilization just seems to have steel/iron/bronze quality surpassing anyone else.

Late medieval crossbow needed a windlass to properly cock and it was barely enough.
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>>256270882
>Sun Jian
>bro
Sun Jian singlehandedly crashed the Coalition by running off with the Imperial Seal, his treason and vain ambition killed him.
>Cao Cao
one of the few people who could see through the chaos of the dissolving Han Dynasy and with cold calculation was able to come out on top
>Yuan Shao
A noble who thought he could just take over the Han Empire wholesale with his Name alone
>Liu Bei
a bonafide Usurper who was able to fool a lot of people with talk alone
his actions speak for themself
>Lu Bu
a naive wannabe hero who found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time, not as much a traitor as everyone continuously tried to get rid of him
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>>256270508
Honestly, I take engaging the AI on the campaign map with the same approach to chess. It's simply not about attacking and defending. You have to figure out ways where you can trap or put the AI's army into in disadvantageous position. If the AI has 3 doomstacks coming for you. Try to use a decoy army that could split them up so that your main force could engage one army at a time, especially if certain mechanics like lightning strike or night battles are unavailable.
Also, there is no dishonor in ambushes.
If the enemy is hard to catch, try other means of trapping him, even if it means endangering one of your settlements.
That said, yeah forced march retreat should be disabled.
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>>256271198
It was simply adaptation to what kind of armies they fought at the time.
The chinese needed a superior alternative to the bow but not something that was hard to crank and reload, because their steppe enemies were very agile but lightly armored.
Meanwhile in the west, most armies where heavily armored but moved in dense formations. There was no need for a mobile weapon.
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>forced march
>ok guys we're gonna march really hard and fast k
>srs guys, no stopping or taking a shit
>sir there is an enemy army approaching
>just march away lmao

I don't see the issue with retreating from forced march. The army is already at full speed, why should it not get away from an army in regular configuration?
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>>256271287
>Sun Jian singlehandedly crashed the Coalition by running off with the Imperial Seal, his treason and vain ambition killed him.

Yuan Shao crashed his own coalition by having Liu Baio attack Sun Jian over piece of rock. thus emboldening the Dong

Besides that didn't really happen at all.
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>>256271198
that's because european crossbows were built to a different design philosophy, the cross-bow was strong but short, so it had to be cocked by windlass, especially the later arbalest with a metal bar.
But the Chinese Crossbow was more like an actual Cross-Bow, as it was basically a recurve bow mounted on a wooden frame that allowed the string to be locked in place, and as such the chinese crossbow was actually just a very powerful recurve bow firing actual arrows.
Just as English Longbows outranged French crossbows, Han Crossbows were so powerful they outranged the Xiognu Recurve Bows, because in the end they are just bows so strong noone but a master archer could fire them effectively
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>>256271673
Supplies should affect speed and with low supplies you shouldn't be able to retreat from a forced march.
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3K create-a-faction feature when?
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who is the most fun yellow turban?
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>>256235846
Yuan Shu
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>>256271751
>Yuan Shao crashed his own coalition by having Liu Baio attack Sun Jian over piece of rock
the imperial regalia was more important than the Emperor himself, Sun Jian trying to steal it was worse treason than Dong Zhuo had committed.
if you read the book you would see that Sun Jian took the seal with the absolute intention to start his own Dynasty.
Yuan Shao gave Sun Jian the opportunity to relinquish the Seal, only after Sun Jian had made clear he would keep it was Liu Biao ordered to take action.
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>>256272024
What made Yuan Shao more deserving?
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>>256271898
I want the option to rename my faction
at least give me an event with 3 naming options available when I reach Duchy, Kingdom and Emperor respectively
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Another 3K annoyance, why can they force me to fight on the siege map? I have a settlement besieged, the garrison attacks me, ok so they should be leaving the settlement then. Nope they are just forcing me to try and take the town when I wanted to starve them out. Wtf is this?
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>>256271862
>the chinese mastered the art of crossbow spam
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>>256272024
Sun Jian actually gave him the seal in real life, right? I thought that was how Yuan Shao proclaimed himself emperor before being taken down by Cao Cao and Liu Bei
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What if there was a supply unit, kinda like the FOB or supply trucks in Wargame?
The unit would not be able to fight but would allow ranged units to resupply their ammo during a battle. It could take two unit slots or slow down the army for balance. In battle it would be really slow, like a ram, and easy to set on fire. In an area around it, troops could resupply their ammo.
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>>256272125
Yuan Shao didn't want it for himself(presumably), he wanted it for the Coalition, with the Seal in hand they could have requested more official support and retaken Changan.
The likes of Ma Teng and Liu Yan would have been called into action and threatened Changan from the vulnerable rear
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>>256272154
Just fall back to the corner of the map away from the towers, they have to attack you if they initiated, even on the siege map.
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>>256272220
Sun Jian gave Yuan Shu the seal because he was an officer under Yuan Shu's command, yeah.
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>>256272154
What?
The attacking garrison always fights me on a field. Post screenshots.
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>>256271673
I feel like retreating in forced march should cost you a huge amount of military resources. Like, your eating attention next turn unless you have an ungodly amount of supplies.
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>>256272220
Yuan Shao never got the Seal, Sun Ce brought the seal to Yuan Shu, so Yuan Shu would help him against Liu Biao.
Yuan Shu then proclaimed himself Emperor with the Seal.

Note that the Seal was the essence of Emperorship, it predated the Han Empire and was the physical manifestation of the Mandate of Heaven.
The piece of Jade it was carved from was considered holy before it even became the seal
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>>256272261
That doesn't sound fun at all and tw battles are too fast to need resupply
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>>256272472
military supplies in general should be easier to lose, or at least scale with how many troops you have in your army. It would give you a reason to try to go for smaller, more elite forces, or at least build those military supply buildings.
||Multiple armies should also eat into supplies faster so stack spam actually has a consequence.||
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>>256272439
I don't have any but I'll try to remember next time.
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>>256272635
I just hate to have my trebs run out of ammo and then the guys are just sitting there. I know it's a balance thing but why not have a way around it at the cost of having even fewer fighting men?
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>>256267307
Hi Med 2 faggot cut your throat you Turkish roach.
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>>256272642
>>256272261
Rotk 11 had a mechanic where you could send Officers out on the map with a supply train and use it to resupply your armies in the field
would be a neat ability to resupply besieging armies
though I guess the field battles are not grand enough to warrant FOBs
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>>256271673
It makes sense but it can lead to gimmicky AI bullshit where they are able to constantly outrun you. The worst thing is that if you box them in with other armies they can still retreat through those armies. Zones of control (city or enemy army) should halt a retreat and require the retreat to go around it.

>>256270724
I've boxed them in, they are allowed to pass through one of your army's area of control when fleeing.

>>256248920
Are you making sure you enable fire at will? Because in an ambush they turn off fire at will for every unit. You have to re-enable it.
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>>256272642
I don't know about you but military supplies are already pretty brutal
>-30 supplies per turn on hostile environment
>-90+ supplies upon using forced march
There's also shit like hazardous terrain like winter, mountains and valleys that makes movement really slow and you'll be suffering attrition in less than 4 turns.
This reminds me of trying to invade Nehekara and you're forced to encamp every turn because you can't move an inch without suffering attrition.
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>>256271945
What the fuck? is that really Yuan Shu's victory campaign screen? He has the same exact palette swap as all the Han Governors?

How fucking lazy is CA seriously, it can't be that expensive to request 3-4 extra drawings from your resident artist.
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>>256273073
Shit really? I guess autistically building garrisons in all my border territories and getting a massive food surplus pays off.
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>>256273020
When I chase them into a corner, I usually just set up an ambush. Since ai can't into ambush they walk in every time.

Maybe there should be a way to stop them from retreating by using spies.
Also what the fuck is up with spies, why can't I recall them? I had one infiltrate an army and when I eventually met the army in the field, the spy was killed in battle. Imo he should immediately rout or stay in the enemy army but have a button to betray them and join your force during rts battles.
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>>256273073
difficult terrain should give you attrition on forced march anyway.
Pressing your troops through snowy mountains and forests is bound to see some men fall by the wayside.
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>>256273264
You probably don't notice it because you're always fighting on your own turf. But try going on an immigration campaign to the south. Shit is fucking brutal because even if you start settling some of the ruins there, there, you won't have buildings that have enough food reserves so you will still see some supply drain even in your own territories. The mountain passes between Cao Cao and Sun Jian especially can result in some pretty brutal border skirmishes because it's incredibly hard to navigate and there are only mines in there, so not a lot of farming.
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>late game
>clearly remember going through my list of officers and not seeing anyone super special
>few turns later
>Xiahou Yuan, Zhou Yu, and Xu Chu joined my army without me noticing

it probably got covered in all the notifications I get but it would been nice to know earlier instead of a generic recruit message.
too bad they're all old as shit and are underleveled so they'll die soon anyway
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>>256273752
That's actually pretty cool.
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>>256270508
>>256270995
>>256271409
These are fair points. I still don't think they should be able to outrun you in your own territory forever, but you guys are right it's a strategy game.
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>>256271198
The western crossbows had the limitation of powerstroke and shooting smaller bolts (less stable in long flight).:
https://youtu.be/3D64oZCHAns
That's not the case with chinese crossbows that were literally bows mounted on a stock.
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>If you're find it so hard to catch an enemy, simply detach a vanguard retinue with lots of cav since they more movement points.
fuck I feel so retarded for never thinking of this
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How long till people procreate?
I married Cao Pi to the bandit lady and Cao Ang to Cao Rens widow. Some other Cao Shit married some Kong Ron woman but neither of them produced any offspring in 20 or so turns.
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>>256251184
I'm still playing Medieval 2, now there's mod that turn it into M&B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh81otImjvk
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>>256257240
There are racists "warhammer fans" here literally and unironically self-identified as "homosexual rats" while keep insulting, dehumanizing Chinese and any other people who dislike them, and spamming those disgusting ratporns sometime like no tomorrow. You can't possibly so naive to expect (((them))) would have changed here, 4chan is renown as cesspool weebsite for a good reason.
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>>256274281
You're comparing them purely to Medieval crossbows, which, given how everyone and their mum had a castle, were naturally optimised for sieges, hence the short prods to allow use in arrow slits and on densely packed walls.

Earlier European crossbows like the Roman or Greek ones, had both a long draw length and composite prods, just like the Chinese ones did.

I highly doubt the Chinese lack of interest in shields or heavy armour (if true) was caused simply by crossbow technology, the Greek gastraphetes was extremely powerful for it's time, it was cocked with the operator's bodyweight.
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>Yuan Shao’s unique ability gives every unit in a massive area 50 morale passively, making almost any unit unbreakable.
So have you guys taken the Yuanpill yet?
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>>256257240
3K has one major issue - it's about chinks.
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>>256274938
Which is why (You) are the issue, not the game.
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>>256275002
The game could be really good, if not for chinks. I hope CA make a game with similar mechanics but in a proper setting.
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What if CA does elder scrolls Total War
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>>256274806
I have a grudge against him since he broke the nap, declared war and send a guerilla army into my back line while my main force was busy dealing with his stacks.
My trusted vassal Kong Zhuo saved me by reinforcing my garrisons and killing the invading army and then aided me in the conquest of Yuan Shaos entire territory, despite having only one county.
I rewarded him with protection and guaranteed him autonomy, and the tiny nation of Kong Zhuo prospered for many years deep in the heart of my empire.
Until he died of old age and his daughter broke our trade agreement, dishonoring not only me but also her father's legacy. Annexation came swift and without warning and thus the end of their faction.
But at least they survived Yuan Shao the traitor by many years. I will kill that dog where ever I find him.
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>>256275208
Fuck off, Todd.
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>>256275203
i concur. in an ancient greek setting, perhaps slightly mythical, the game would actually be playable. achilles dueling hector, etc
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Never making the mistake of letting Wu do it's own thing again. 20-30 turns, I finally start gaining ground against them after clearing out their fuckton of deathstacks, holy shit.
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>>256275279
You know you Romans with Magic
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>>256274764
>Earlier European crossbows like the Roman or Greek ones
but romans and greeks had shite bows to begin with since they didn't have much of a bowman culture
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>>256274938
the one major issue is your pathological fear of Chyna
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>>256274806
yuans biggest strength is his Captain mechanic that allows you to recruit full stacks for a fraction of the regular price
a full retinue costs just 1000 coins, when a single sword militia would cost you 400+
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>>256275359
just keep his armies busy and the Yellow Turbans will start eating his settlements
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>yuanigger destroying your campaign every time
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>>256272262

Ma Teng was part of the coalition in the books, which you are referencing specifically.
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>>256275461
They both used auxillaries from cultures that did. Scythians were amongst the first people to use composite bows and the Greeks had regular contact with them via the Black Sea.
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>>256275759
Ma Teng was part of the Coalition, but he didn't actually do shit and mainly bided his time
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>>256274806
In my first campaign I played Gongsun Zan and bitch slapped three of his full stacks with one army in two turns, captured him, then executed him. He's a punk.
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>>256275461
It's not like the Chinese had anymore of a "bowman culture", they used crossbows precisely because of this, they can be handed to a peasant with no military training. Mechanically there's no real difference between Roman and Chinese crossbows in the 2nd century, just minor differences in design aesthetic.

Actual bow cultures didn't use crossbows at all, they used bows.
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Historical title soon
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>>256275730
Yuannigger can't destroy your campaign if you are the Yuannigger
>>256275978
but Scythians didn't build crossbows, and the roman reliance on auxilliaries for specialized troops meant they never really branched out to create either quality ranged or cavalry units
>>256276095
>It's not like the Chinese had anymore of a "bowman culture"
archery was certainly more prevalent in China than in Greece, it just got replaced almost entirely by Crossbows during the Han Dynasty.
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Despite being the most successful TW yet, 3K has about as much hype and excitement surrounding it as a wet fart.

Surprised what took them so long. Gameplay is identical to any other nu-TW title
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>>256276115
>austria is surrounded by weirdos
no wonder they wanna learn to swordfight
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>>256275395
Sounds like shit.
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>>256276260
I'm surprised anyone buys video games anymore, they're all just frameworks made for endless dlc milking. I bought 3K because I love total war and Dynasty warriors, but I've spent more time playing the older titles since I bought it. It's pretty underwhelming.
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>>256275534
It more like disgust.
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>>256276260
3K perfectly represents imo the franchise well commercial wise. Total War is one of those games that no one else really talks about in the same capacity as other more popular genres like action games or RPGs, but for some reason sells a truckload because most of its fans simply play it in silence in the comfort of their homes.
Warhammer is the opposite. It had blockbuster tier marketing and direction, rivaling that of some console titles, so more people are talking about it. For example, the Curse of the Vampire Coast alone has 1.4million views on youtube.
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>>256276454
you sound like a faggot
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>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. An Elder Scrolls mod for any Total War title is a technical infringement of the EULA (that you can read on the steam store page for the game).

I would highly recommend that you do not invest your time into creating such a mod because we will be legally obliged to take it down from the Steam Workshop.
What did they mean by this
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>>256276552
you sound like a chink
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>>256276195
>archery was certainly more prevalent in China than in Greece
Not really. Certain Greek cultures like Crete had great respect for archery and various Greek settlements around the Black Sea were in routine competition with steppe nomads in the same way China's northern states were.

And one of the chief enemies of the Greeks, the Persians, made extensive use of both archers and horse archers in their armies.

So you can't say the Chinese (and this is before the Han by the way) focused more of crossbows to the detriment of heavy armour and shields simply because there were more archers about. There wasn't, the bow was ubiquitous in both the East and West.
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>>256276195
>>256275461
>what is Crete
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>>256276260
how does hype even matter if it sold well

Hype is an irrelevant non issue because being hyped up by a few dozen /v/edditors doesn't mean it will be a commercial success.
Maybe this is a wake up call that your little bubble does not represent general sentiment
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>>256276421
>>256276260
>41k left playing
>only 3 weeks in
Total War 3K is definitely going to go down having one of quickest burnout rate for TW gamers in the franchise. I won't be surprised if CA abandons it next year if they see that only a few thousand people are left playing like they did with Attila.
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>>256276676
People still like talking about games after they release. Nobody really seems to care about 3K though, aside from Dynasty Warrior fans
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>>256276686
i dont care enough about 3k but why are you shit posting, its currently the off hours for normal people and itll go back up ~100k for about an hour before dropping back down again
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>>256276660
one tiny island with less than half a million inhabitants
also being famous archers in a culture that has almost no archers is nothing too impressive
Egyptian and Scythian Archers would dab on Cretans hard
>>256276629
Crossbows were already wife spread halfway through the Warring States period, they just became prevalent during the Han Dynasty
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>>256276827
again, just because they don't discuss it in your bubble doesn't mean it isn't discussed anywhere at all
and your DW narrative is also bullshit because people are discussing it all day every day around here, and on youtube too.
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>>256276827
Again, what does it matter if the game sold ridiculously well? Besides, it's not like people will be talking about Warhammer 5 years from now just like barely anyone talks about Med 2, Rome 1 or Shogun 2 aside from some passing mentions whenever people make comparisons
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>>256276686

the 24 hour peack is still 81k from 191k after 3 weeks. Which is a retention rate 3 times better than tw warhammer.
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>>256276851
I'm just saying the truth. Even Warhammer 2 retained at least 75% of its playerbase months after release.
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>>256276716
Calm down, Todd.
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>>256246594
That is how fucking strata works dipshit, this type of formation exists in N. America and EU as well.
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>>256277102
>Even Warhammer 2 retained at least 75%
why do you lie? 3K has higher retention rates than warhams
WH2 died massively after launch until ME was released, and again died down until DLC were released
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>>256276972
You keep talking about bubbles. No one cares.

>>256277027
>Why does it matter
It doesn't, I just find it funny that the most successful game in the franchise and no one gives a fuck about it.
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>>256277232
and you keep talking about a lack of hype, when that is obviously an issue of your observation rather than a lacking reception of the game
if you go around saying "hurr nobody talks about this game, game sucks" ypu should expect to be called a retard
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>>256277232
> I just find it funny that the most successful game in the franchise
It's not that uncommon at all. For example, Sekiro is the highest selling Fromsoft game believe it or not, but it has absolutely zero discussion in the internet compared to Dark Souls. Sales aren't just the result of internet hype. There are many factors on why a game sold well, which in this case, the vast majority of people who bought 3K are chinese people who don't really talk much about video games on the internet.
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>>256277425
There's also the fact that this general is actually pretty bad for discussing total war games.
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>>256277502
Reminder CA made this smug motherfucker OP purely because of his name and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>256277232
>and no one gives a fuck about it.

>82k players yesterday
>30k people watching it on twitch yesterday
>1,3 million youtube views in the last week
I think you are just an idiot with confirmation bias, seeing and hearing what you want to see and hear.
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I wish eagg was still around or we could talk about 3k in the gsg (It's a deeper gsg than Imperator, hilariously). I'm tired of this shit-poster.
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>>256273130
I believe thats supposed to be the emperor given that the goal of the governors is to preserve the han empire.
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>>256277112
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>>256277717
You just need to ignore them and keep to actual discussion, they inevitably get bored when people don't feed them.
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>>256277717
/eagg/ shunned 3K when it had the chance
now it is dead because of it
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>>256277635
How the fuck do you calculate youtube views?
>X amount of players
Are you legit retarded? I just pointed out how it's the most successful game yet. Don't literally make my arguments for me, you dingus
>>256277402
I never stated anything about the actual game itself, stop projecting you insecure sperg
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>>256277909
This. I tried to bring up 3K back when /eagg/ was alive, because it was the only RoTK game that could possibly revitalize discussion, but they scoffed and laughed because it was a western product.
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>>256240854
but it's not cracked :(
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>>256277997
>but they scoffed and laughed because it was a western product
Wait, what?
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>>256277997
To be fair, we scoffed and laughed at 3 Kangz on /twg/ too. Everywhere really. Most people expected another Rome 2 disaster.
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>>256278016
I've come to find that games that go uncracked are the ones no one gives a remote fuck about
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>>256277980
>How the fuck do you calculate youtube views?
Steam Spy does it for me
>I just pointed out how it's the most successful game yet
and yet you claimed noone gives a fuck about it, when that is evidently not true
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>>256278078
Chinaboos are genuinely deluded and have no taste. These people play gacha games.
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>>256278078
It was a mix of a lack of familiarity with CA as well as some of the pre-release stuff looking bad, along with genuine autism about a new series.
>>256278081
In fact, you have some people who are still really set on pushing it as another Rome 2 somehow.
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>>256277717
I wish you fucked off to /eagg/ as well. I feel like both sides would be happier with that arrangement.

You're more than welcome to discuss Total War: Three Kingdoms in the Total War General though, just make sure you stay on topic. The people who are explicitly saying shit like >>256236818
have absolutely no place here.
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>>256278078
/eagg/ was of the opinion that only Koei could do the setting justice, despite Koei being probably the one who did the most damage to it by turning it into slapstick anime shit
RotK13 was A-OK, but DW9 was a pathetic disaster and frankly a straight up insult.

Around the time DW9 was looking to be absolute shit, 3K was announced and most of /eagg/ immediately chose to shit on it, also defending against a real or imagined /twg/ invasion taking place, hilariously at the same time /twg/ was complaining about an /eagg/ invasion
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>>256278183
Anon, I don't know what to say. You're fucking mongoloid. I have never argued against the game being popular. Final (you)
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>>256278078
It's a general dedicated to a japanese game series. Obviously, people will be biased towards a western company trying to adapt a setting that's mostly done by asians.
Especially since the prerelease for 3K was really bad and nobody everywhere was hyped for the game at all.
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Lmaoing at the basedboys getting btfo by 3 Kangdoms and now can't stop seething over it.
They were so eager to be vindicated by another hilarious CA blunder. Calling it'll flop for months on end and look what happened hahahaha
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>>256278320
then why do you complain about your subjective lack of hype?
You started this entire non-issue based on an opinion you couldn't back up with anything else than your feelings
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>Around the time DW9 was looking to be absolute shit, 3K was announced and most of /eagg/ immediately chose to shit on it, also defending against a real or imagined /twg/ invasion taking place, hilariously at the same time /twg/ was complaining about an /eagg/ invasion

it seems like we're all so alike
do they also exalt their earlier games and shit on new ones?
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>>256278380
Gonna break my own rule after 1 minute

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests
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>>256278386
Unironically yes.
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>>256278380
Hey there, bud. I couldn't help but notice you seem a little upset. Don't stress about the little things so much, arguing with anonymous posters on the internet and getting frustrated doesn't seem like a fun way to go through life.

Consider taking a breather and playing some Total War in the mean time. :)
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>>256278386
of course, DW3 and 4 are the Gold Standard, much like Rome and Med 2, the earlier games like DW2 are playable but really an acquired taste, you'll still find tryhard autists who claim those earliest titles are the TRUE golden age, like Shogun 1 and Med 1.

I think the main issue is that DW didn't get a really good instalment for 10 years while Total War had Attila and Warhams to keep the general going.
And while DW9 was a complete disaster that killed the fanbase, 3K turned out pretty alright
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Shogun 2 has unironically the best carpets and best aesthetics, prove me wrong.

Protip: you can't
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>>256278386
Yes, it became a meme for a while that everyone complaining about DW9 would start with
>as someone who has been playing since DW3/4...
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I think the only reason posting has slowed down is because more people are actually playing the new game
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Daily reminder that you are arguing with a mentally ill person that spams shit like >>256278429 every day and falseflags just for attention.
Stop giving actual replies to people like him that are blatant bait.
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>>256278658
Yeah, that must be why the player counts are dropping like rocks in water...
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>>256278386
>do they also exalt their earlier games and shit on new ones?
Pretty much. Someone from tumblr convinced /eagg/ that DW9 was the best thing since he somehow got the game two weeks early. Boy the fucking backlash that caused.
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>>256278671
Stop entertaining shitposters and go prop up your rapidly dying game, anon. If you're waiting for your turn though, then that's understandable
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>>256278676
>the player counts reflect people who post on /twg/
don't be fucking retarded
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>>256278658
You say that, but when every previous TW title launched the general saw a massive uptick in posts even on the off-hours.
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>>256278658
Nah, people simply moved on.
I myself am not going to play until they release the blood dlc
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>>256278604
>doesn't post a carpet to prove it
Fix immediately
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>>256278658
I'm waiting for WH2 stuff.
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>>256278728
>>256278386
>>256278303
Hey there buddy. It seems like you might be lost, but to discuss DW you have to be posting in the right thread, and you're in /twg/ right now, so we'd all appreciate it if you could go back to your thread or start actually discussing Total War. Thanks, take care.
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>>256278671
Whatever happened to the SEETHING/Honkey Chink shitposter?

Did he finally get banned? Are the jannies finally doing their fucking jobs? It was absolutely insane to me how much time that guy spent daily in this thread responding to every single post he could.
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>>256278783
We've had rapidfire threads when it came out though? We've just discussed everything to discuss about this game and since there's nothing to talk about and since E3 just came out and there are lots of shit to talk about, some people are instead there on /v/.
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>>256278831
don't reply to me ever again you disgusting retard
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>>256278776
Oh okay, we'll just go by your proof then, which are your feelings and thoughts not backed up by anything. That sounds more reasonable.
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>>256278843
SEETHING honkey anti-3K shill :)
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Woah... so this... is the power... of chinkmanii...
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>>256278854
>We've had rapidfire threads when it came out though?
Right, but that happens after every single new TW title launch. What I'm saying seems to be a more unique phenomenon surrounding the 3K launch is that the posts have died off so quickly. It's been around 2-3 weeks since launch and the general is moving slower than it has in over a year.

This didn't seem to be the case with Attila or the Warhammer games. This is more like when Thrones of Britannia came out.
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>>256278783
Most of the posts when a new release hits is shitposting, discussion about the game happens anyway, like it happened this time, but now that it has been discussed we need new content. That's part of the reason why /wgg/ and /rtsg/ died in the first place. We have games that allow basically endless replayability, but after a while you don't have anything new to discuss that you haven't discussed several times in the past already.

In the general there's people playing the games, old and new, but they don't post anymore because what's there to show? Unless it's some remarkable shit that clicked together to be really interesting like a diplomatic fuck up, it's all stuff that we've seen or played a thousand times.
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>>256279003
> the general is moving slower than it has in over a year.
Maybe because some people fucked off? Why the hell would I post here when the last dozen threads were just autistic race baiting and /int/shit?
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Is this true?
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>>256278926
Where is the actual guy though? I can tell you're just pretending because he had such a unique brand of autism.

You would know if he was present in this thread because every single post that didn't praise 3K or talked about a non-3K game would've been responded to. He also uses the same couple of images over and over again. For example, he posts an image of Chinese actors/sports players/models compared next to the Terracota Warriors a lot.
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>>256279003
>This didn't seem to be the case with Attil
attila was dead on arrival, three weeks after launch it had like 2k people playing

Warhams drew the /tg/ crowd, so it had more crossposting
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>>256279101
It's a shame we lost out on a fair amount of /twg/ regulars because of Chinkshit. Hopefully they come back eventually once the /eagg/fags either integrate or move on.
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>>256278843
No, it's just another sock puppet personality the schizophrenic in these threads uses to argue with himself
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>>256278604
>best aesthetics
Only if you are a weeb.
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>>256279101
this, quality discussion is really rare in /twg/ and this weeks ratraid really drove a lot of peole off

now you're back to the core posters of /twg/
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>>256279106
I always thought the guy you're talking about and this guy >>256278987 >>256279102 were the same person.
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How to prevent boredom after turn 50 or so when the game becomes a map painting simulator?
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>>256279230
Start a new one.
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>>256279090
>In the general there's people playing the games, old and new, but they don't post anymore because what's there to show?
We've managed to keep this general alive for years, so clearly people used to be more than willing to re-discuss topics that have already been addressed.

Warhammer specifically has a CRAZY amount of repeatedly discussed topics, but it keeps the general alive and it's fun to talk about so people did it.

People seem to have already gotten over their honeymoon phase with 3K and aren't putting in the same level of discussion. I'm mostly chalking it up to cultural barriers in that most westerners haven't read the Romance, but it only takes an hour or so to read up on the Warhammer wiki.
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>>256279230
Shitpost in the thread and bait chinks/histfags/fantasoys. Bonus points if you make your own OC.
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>>256279216
This general is no longer fun anyway. It's all just shitty autistic nit picking every time and discussing 3K so far has been a complete bore. I figure other people simply went back home to their other main generals where it's more lively.
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>>256279275
Early game TW is best game.
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It's about time you idiots realized 3k is shit and that there is nothing about it to discuss. There's only a few chingoloids remaining in the thread and soon they will be gone too.
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>>256279216
>this weeks ratraid really drove a lot of people off
Okay, bud.

So it wasn't the two weeks of non-stop Chink shitposting...
>LOL IT'S OUR GENERAL NOW HONKEY
>*proceeds to post anime girls and other unrelated shit*
>*removes Warhammer from the OP and tries to rename the general*
The ratfags have been here since WH2 launch if not before, Skaven have always been a popular race in the Warhammer world because they are one of the only actual unique ones.

Go peddle your disingenuous bullshit elsewhere.
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>>256279314
there's really nothing else to talk about 3K at this point anyway. People have already seen and discovered what was there to do and what could happen in the first week.
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Looks like the 3K honeymoon phase is over, folks.
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>>256279257
Total War: Lens Flare
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>>256279409
>So it wasn't the two weeks of non-stop Chink shitposting...
How is that different from the non-stop shitposting about chinks? Remember everytime someone would bring up 3K and the general would devolve into an incoherent mess about Tiananmen square until jannies made it bannable on sight?
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>3k player numbers in the gutter
>no updates
>chinks slowly realize the game is barebones and that CA doesn't give a fuck about them
>discussion dies down because its china where everyone looks the same, behaves the same and is soulless
>not even a month after release chinks are already wavering and leaving en masse
kek, I can't even respect you. Even Warhammerniggers put up more of a fight.
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>same voice acting as atilla and obvious
>blurry image and game has trouble focusing
>background of battle always enveloped in fog or obscured in some other way
>crappy antialiasing with jagged edges everywhere
>shitty lod
>sky is static and clouds also
>awful pixelization and noise in the image, especially noticeable in the sky and trees
>can't build watchtowers
>can't build forts
>supply/food system doesn't apply to AI
>fire effects look like shit
>fighting animations look floaty and unimpactful, even in realism mode
>units glide and surf on the terrain while walking
>too many generals clutter the battle screen
>too many banners - can't see the fighting
>grass clipping and flickering with dead bodies/equipment
>soulless UI - just black boxes and generic text everywhere
>no point in doing battles, can just autoresolve every time
>one of the worst battles in the entire series
>towers are insanely OP, to the point of people being unable to manually siege settlements and having to rely on autoresolve
>AI resorts to just camping their settlement and waiting for the player to move out
>the AI can see all of the player's armies through the fog of war making it impossible to catch enemy armies off guard
>AI is dumb even on the harder difficulties
>no naval battles
>hero units are OP and ordering ordinary units to attack them just looks wrong and really shows the worst sides of the duel battle system
>no agent cinematics
>absolutely no unit variety, the units you have at the beginning are the same units you use in late game
>soldiers spiderman over your walls in 3 seconds
>"hero duels" are in the game even in records mode
>in both modes you can just spam hero units, charge the enemy generals, kill them and automatically win

>B-BUT IT SOLD OVER 1 MILLION COPIES IN CHINA THAT MEANS IT'S G-GOOD!
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>>256279495
If you see a shitpost and respond with more shitposting, you are making the situation worse not better. Full stop. Don't try and justify it, don't pull some "but mom he did it first!" shit, just ignore it and move the fuck on like a goddamn adult.

Three Kingdoms and Warhammer could've easily co-existed but a select few autists on both sides decided they would incessantly shitpost about it until it devolves into a flame war. This entire thing could've been avoided if they were ignored.

Also, it's 4chan. Expecting people not to mention the Tienanmen Square Massacre on the anniversary of the Tienanmen Square Massacre in any thread discussing anything even remotely Chinese in topic or origin is just naive.
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>>256279314
What allows discussion is getting new people through sales of old games and releases of new games, they will inevitably ask questions and those spark discussion. In this general though there's this fucked up mentality where games in the series are like soccer teams and some think you're only allowed to like one. Shitposting scares away the new players that will either play and don't post or fuck off completely.

Seriously, this is one of the weirdest communities I have seen. There are people that hate more games in the series than they like, some that actively despise everything, others that don't allow mod discussion because of the cheat meme, then there's the enmity between MP and SP...we're fucked up.
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>>256279483
Fucking finally. It was fucking cringy putting up with these insects.
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>>256279409
it was two weeks of shitposting from all sides, but during E3 there was a literal organised shitposting raid by ratfags posting TW unrelated gayshit with unrelated rat pictures
the usual shitposting could be easily ignored, but a concentrated discord tranny raid shutting down all discussion due to Vermintide 2 DLC announcement had nothing to do with "muh skaven discussion"

and the fact that you try to paint racebaiting falseflagging as something that wasn't done by a select few people strawmanning both sides is a good sign you are a literal retard
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>>256279101
>>256279216
Plus there's not much to talk about, as the hype of 3K is winding down, we are still waiting on DLCs for 3K or any significant mod, as well as lord packs for WH2.

>>256278843
He probably got relocated to another place by his superior or got frustrated over the amount of ratposting, 50 cent party bois are like that. Not that anything short of a range ban would affect him since he would have been using a VPN to post from mainland china anyways. I'm sure we will miss him.
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>>256279698
>Also, it's 4chan.
Even then there's still limits. Just like how mentioning trannies, SJWs, and ugly women in western gaming is enough to destroy entire threads. Just look at /v/. Dozens of games are literally rendered impossible to talk about because of some vague connection to politics.
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Hmmm, the dying down of chink posting strangely coincided with the Honk Kong protests and the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen square massacre that resulted in China pushing harder towards internet censorship and restricting access to western media.

Really makes you think.
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>the thread is moving slow on a thursday morning that means the hype is dead
why are mutts so braindead
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>>256279483
It will b over when we have some Total War related STUFF
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>>256263478
I want Tienanmen square mod.
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>>256279738
>Vermintide 2 DLC announcement had nothing
Actually yeah, it had, the raid originated from /v/, ratposters jumped on it and the original target was to be /vtg/ but since it died they came here.
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>>256279809
Nope. Your chink gayme is dead gayboi.
We're finally going back to Warhammer bros.
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>>256279802
>What is context?
This wasn't the case with previous launches, I don't know how many times this needs to be reiterated. The general was still quite lively in the off-hours after Warhammer launched.
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>>256279856
>back to Warhammer bros.
Not on my watch, fatass fantanigger.
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>>256279884
4chan wasn't as shit when Warhams launched
it wasn't 90% shitposting
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>>256279394
>chinese zoo
>Japanese on signboard
COPE
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>>256279903
Post historical games instead of shitting on people playing games you don't like
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>>256279948
This. Warhammer came out way before the election. Now compare that to WH2 where 90% of the posts were MORTAL EMPIRES WHEN and the 10% were asking for DLC because people were already bored with the vortex campaign
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>>256279903
I miss the days when these threads were filled to the brim with Romeaboos. I miss the Antiochus III "Seleucid bully not so tough after getting raped" memes.
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>>256280000
>this is the power of chinese intellectuals
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>>256280003
Lol shut the fuck up you stupid fat bitch
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I appreciate the historical accuracy crowd but sometimes they take it too far. I've tried mods before where they've limited tech trees only because that faction didn't have those technologies. I get the devotion to history but let's not take the fun out of it. If I wanted it to play out exactly like history then I'd go read a textbook.
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>>256280037
>I CAN'T BELIEVE A CHINESE SETTING GAME IS DOING BETTER THAN MY WESTERN ONE
Just like Shogun all over again
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>>256280203
Shogun was actually good unlike 3shitdoms
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>>256280131
I feel like people have a very selective sense of what is historically accurate as well. I mean the first Rome Total War game had fucking Roman Ninja Assassins for fuck's sake. This series hasn't ever been historically accurate, they just shoot for a general representation of a specific time period.
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>>256280203
Shogun 2. Good memes, made competitive battles a thing and most importantly: People actually gave a shit about it when it released
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BANNELORD IS IN BETA
I REPEAT, BANNERLORD IS IN BETA.
WE CAN FINALLY DITCH THIS BORING CHINKSHIT AND PLAY A FUCKING REAL GAME NOW.
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>>256280318
this meme again
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>>256280360
Translate this you nigger
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TOTAL WAR: COMMAND&CONQUER
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>>256280315
I remember those guys, good times.
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>>256280362
t. chinkcel who came here 2 months ago
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>>256280425
More like 2 weeks ago
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>>256280362
Sorry Chang, but unlike you my interest in Total War goes a bit beyond when this game was announced.

no1curr
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>>256280362
>3 weeks in
>barely anyone talking about the game at all
oh no no no no no no no
chinkcels btfo
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>>256280360
good, now get out of /twg/ you disgusting immigrant
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>>256280410
I would be down for a 4chan: Total War but they'd have to make the world map interesting
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>>256280476
>>256280425
i have been here since before rome 2 launched, meanwhile you are redditors who came riding in on the 2016 wave and now try to play the oldfags
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>hoinky chinkshits absolutely seething that no one actually gives a damn about their shitty fanfiction

DED GAME
>DED GAME
DED GAME
>DED GAME
DED GAME
>DED GAME
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>>256280410
I'd like to see a Total War: Age of Mythology game personally. I think there is a lot they could do there, although I suppose some cultures would be a little harder to do than others (i.e. obviously no Middle East faction with Muhammad or something).
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>>256280557
>I-I've been here since R-Rome 2!
cope, you seething insect
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>loved TW Rome as a teenager
>played a bit of medieval and empire too
>have to stay at home for 2 weeks because surgery on my nose
>decide to buy 3 kangz because really good reviews and interesting mechanics
>play the shit out of it all week, love it
>new mechanics are fun
>battles are fun
>China turns out to actually be interesting and I remember some characters from dynasty warriors
>decide to check out /twg/ to get some good discussion
>'the game is shit and you are shit and everything is shit'
>'guys why is there no discussion in /twg/ anymore?'

It's because everyone who likes the game gets told how shit it is and stops coming here to not have their experience ruined by bitter pseudo racist transgender needs.
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>>256276260
When I posted this, I didn't actually expect the entire fucking general to be swarmed with shitposters who don't even care for the game. 3K is obviously a smash hit in China and that it was clearly worth it, but Jesus Christ, the state of western TW fans
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>noone cares about ur gaem
true, in this game noone seems to give a shit about any total war game since for the past two hours there hasn't been any discussion for any TW at all, it is just circular shitposting
this general is dying, and good riddance
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>>256280609
Cope harder CCCP fucker. If Stalin were alive, you'd be sent to siberia already
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>>256280587
ARABY WHEN
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>>256280665
thank you for contributing to shitposting and triggering a raid of discordniggers to swarm the general like they always do when an opportunity presents itself
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>>256280703
in this general*
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>>256280704
You do know that USSR and China were on the brink of war during most of the Cold War, right?
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>>256280609
>Chinks shitposting non-stop for weeks, ruining any semblance of discussion that can be found
>People eventually leave
>Discussion dies down
>"WELL MAYBE IF /twg/ WASN'T SO RACIST THE GENERAL WOULD STILL BE ALIVE!"
Okay, bud.
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How historically accurate is it that chinks would use a form of testudo during this period? I'm very knowledgable on the period but I've never heard about such a technique being used at the time.
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>>256280590
Sounds cool but they've already covered the Greeks and all of those cultures pretty heavily. I think the problem is the farther back in time you go, the less unit variety you can have since there is less technology. I think they need to remake Empire. With mods that fix most of the glitching, it's a really awesome experience. With the line infantry you feel more in control of your army, since they aren't running around and getting out of formation. If they made a playable and expanded version, with naval combat included, then it could be amazing.
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>>256280763
Are you really blaming me for this pathetic house of cards you faggots made? Cope.
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>>256280785
COPE
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>>256280785
China might not be a nuclear power today if the Russians weren't so fucking retardedly incompetent at everything they do.
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>>256280838
I'd like to add that setting up your line with barricades and cannons, then watching 5000 indians get demolished as they run toward you is really fun.
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>>256280831
>3K
>Historically accurate
These are things that just don't go together. Chinese history is about as fan fiction as you get.
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>>256280887
Knowing history is cope? What?
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>>256280829
This is like the self-fulfilling prophecy of "fantasy will destroy the general" all over again. People started shitposting against the boogeyman well before it arrived.
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>>256280906
Honky chinkshills are deluded like that.
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>>256280609
People are enjoying the game are playing the game instead of replying to shit posters.
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>>256280903
>China might not be a nuclear power today
How does that contradict anything I said?
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>>256280971
I wonder how many times people are going to have to repeat this same talking point over and over before they themselves actually believe it.

Who are you trying to convince here, Chang?
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>>256280829
>Chinks shitposting non-stop for weeks, ruining any semblance of discussion that can be found
You mean don't posting rat cocks? Just shut the fuck up faggot
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>>256280971
>playing the game
>when player count is down to the tens of thousands
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
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>>256281032
It doesn't. I just felt like taking the opportunity to vent my frustrations.

I'm not even the guy you were initially talking to. I'm just some guy who will forever be annoyed at the Russian dipshits who shredded secret documents instead of burning them like they were ordered.
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>>256281048
Learn to speak proper English first, Chang. Then we can try and have a discussion about this.
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>>256280906

I'm just curious to know if the formation has any historical basis or if they just put it in the game for functionality. China was the most technologically advanced civilization at the time, but I don't believe their military techniques and strategies were even close to the Roman Empire's.
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>>256281050
It must be fun, complaining and being angry all the time not being able to accept that people can enjoy things that you cannot and that the world doesn't revolve around you. Knock yourself out I guess.
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>>256281048
>rat cocks
wait, you fags got raided by /trash/ of all places? Brilliant
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>>256280831
holding a shield infront of yourself while the next one holds it above is bot exactly rocket science, the only requirement for it to become a turtle is the shape of the shield, which the Chinese had at the time.
And seeing how they were pretty big on formations and drill at the time I would say a testudo type is not far fetched, though 100% missile resistance is obviously bullshit
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>>256281196
Will do. Hope you enjoy your evening too, bro.
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>>256280757
Thankfully never.
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>>256281050
>>256280887
>>256280587
>spamming pepe like pure autism
>g-guys look I'm cool
go home newfag
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>>256280609
>loved TW Rome as a teenager
>played a bit of medieval and empire too
>decide to buy 3 kangz
So you skipped all the good Total Wars that came in between? Try Attila and Warhammer then.
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>>256280028
4u
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>>256281196
>enjoying literal shit
Man, you chinks have such low standards.
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>>256281310
My friend, you sound upset. Might I recommend taking a short break from the discussion to cool off with a fun game of Total War? :)
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Romancefags can't meme, that much is evident
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>>256281332
>If we wanted a failed state, we'd go to Carthage.
Still cracks me up.
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>>256281310
>says the guy posting pepe
Pot calling the kettle black aren't we, Mr. Chong?
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>>256281180
>lEArN tO sPEak PRopEr ENgliSH
Learn first german, french or any second language oh wait you don't
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wow, all this quality Total War discussion, truly chinkshit is at fault that all of you niggers have to act like literal double niggers.
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>>256281484
>comes to an English speaking image-board
>demands everyone else learn his language
Yeah... how about no?
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>>256281535
Give it a few weeks for the last of the /eagg/fags to either integrate or fuck off and things should go back to some semblance of normalcy.

Once people stop getting triggered by the trolls, they'll lose interest. They always do.
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>>256281330
He's baiting. It's obvious a lot of newfriends came here with 3 zhangdoms.
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new WH2 update?
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>>256281484
>tYpInG lIkE tHiS
You have to go back.
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3k is popular outside of chi-
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>>256281609
SEETHING

ARE OKAY
ARE OKAY
ARE OKAY CHINKIE
ARE OKAY
ARE OKAY
ARE OKAY CHINKIE
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>>256281540
>Demands on a international japanese board proper english
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>>256281624
inb4 more random nerfs because of MPfags
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>>256281723
Please link me to the board on 4chan that speaks Japanese primarily.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
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>>256281684
>LEGENDARY DONG RUN
Mastah Singu doing gods work
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>>256281684
Most of those runes look like korean
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>>256281609
or option 2 and /twg/ just dies
there's not much else going on, look at the thread, 3kfags talk about 3k a little, and the anti 3k crowd incessantly shitposts about chinks, in between there is nothing left, so chances are everyone will simply get tired and fuck off, while some up and coming general bumps this husk of a thread to page 10.
I've seen it before, happens all the time. Generals aren't as sturdy as some people may think.
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>>256281684
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
B-BUT /twg/ SAID 3K WAS A SMASHING SUCCESS IN THE WEST
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>>256281684
Wow... 3 kingdoms is truly more popular than lotr...
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>>256281684
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The absolute state of bugmen.
Daily reminder that 3shills has 80% of its reviews in chink while only a tiny minority of it are from westerners. That should give you an idea how much people actually care about this disaster.
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BAOOOOO!
The fantasyfags have retreated into their hopes of DLC and a third game!
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>>256281825
Same thing
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so this is the power... of western Total War games.. woah
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>>256281684
>7 Korean
>4 English
>3 Chink
>1 Thai
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>>256281806
The site was created as a fucking anime board in japan with english as communication, most people don't speak here proper english.

How many language can you speak besides english? Go a head I will also wait
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>still not even a patch or workshop released for 3K
Fun
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>>256282079
>chink spammer is a g*rman
OH NO NO NO NO
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What's the point in razing cities? Will they become deserted?
Can I play as the Bandit Queen and just raze everything in my way?
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>>256282142
Österreicher
and I am not spamming shit, just taking a piss at you
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>>256282139
You shouldn't lie on the internet anon.
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>>256282135
How butthurt and insecure do you have to be to try and dick-measure on the internet? Get lost and cope harder bitchboi Chang, nobody gives a shit about mandarine
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>>256282182
>we did these balance changes
>balance still the same
Nice "Patch" faggot
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>>256282181
everyone is now a chinks
>>256282128
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>>256282162
only Tyrant can raze.
others can only sack
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>>256282135
>absolute seething
Go kys chink
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>>256282239
Nice goalpost moving retard, you don't look stupid at all.
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>>256281825
It's even worse.
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>>256282135
This site was created by Moot and it's hosting servers have never existed in Japan, the servers have always been in America. English has always been the only form of communication used on this site and most people take the time to actually learn the language before posting.

You seem like a teenager so I'll cut you a break, but you really should brush up on your English. Specifically your grammar, it's pretty god damn atrocious and it makes it abundantly apparent you don't have a good grasp on the language.
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>>256282128
more Gooks than Chinks have access to 3K and Twitch, since SK has more citizen than Taiwan
3K is also probably more popular with Gooks than Taiwanese since they are closer to the action both geographically and historically
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>>256282274
Yes you win, you get a garbage patch that doesnt fix anything. Well done you absolute sperg. Now fuck off with your autism.
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>>256282162
Dong Zhuo is the only one who can and it's pretty useless. You get intimidation out of it, which you will probably have hard time keeping up anyway unless on legendary. There are probably some ways to exploit it with rebels but the bonuses aren't all that amazing. You're gonna have to research and build around the intimidation penalties anyway.
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>>256282337
Thanks, have fun waiting on rat dlc or whatever it is you do.
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>>256282204
>butthurt and insecure
>talks shit because no proper english
>ends up with this
I hit a nerve, right?
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>>256282389
Nigga seriously, why the fuck are you so bootyblasted right now?
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>>256282383
Have fun waiting for a workshop that wont happen and a patch that wont fix anything.
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I miss the old /twg/.
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>CA hypes up how 3K is going to be a hit because RoTK is so popular you guys
>ends up with the west not giving a flying fuck about it
>the majority who bought it are using currency that that isn't even worth anything
>most streamers already went back to Warhammer
Imagine being a retarded chink lmao
Nobody gives a fuck about your shit """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""history""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>256282492
I miss my youth.
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>>256282439
why would the workshop not happen? are you a retard? There isn't even any license to worry about like there was with Warhams and we still got the Workshop despite idiotic alarmists claiming it won't come.
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>>256282542
>why would the workshop not happen?
Because CA is abandoning the game. It's only been 3 weeks and only 40k players left lol. This is the largest drop of players in TW history for the last 20 years.
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>>256282432
Me? You started that shit and faggots like >>256282516
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>>256281048
>>256281484
>>256281723
>>256282135
German kids are up there with Russians and Brazilians as some of the most obnoxious little faggots to ever roam this Earth, huh?
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Stop replying to obvious bait.
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>>256282631
If things are really upsetting you this much that you feel the need to respond so defensively again and again...
Take a deep breath, and walk away. It really is that simple, Hans.
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>>256277502
he man?
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>>256282631
>b-b-b-b-but that other guy too
You sure are buttfrustrated there chong
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His true self appears.
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Ok so what's the point in sacking cities? I only ever occupy them or MAYBE loot if I need money badly enough.
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Who would you guys recommend for a Han Governor campaign?

I'm leaning towards Ma Teng because of his starting location but Kong Rong has a fun campaign mechanic with a pretty OP unique crossbow unit and he also gets Taishi Ci. Any thoughts?

Also...
Zhang Yan or Zheng Jiang for most fun Bandit campaign?
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>>256282904
When you're having massive food issues but still want to conquer land I guess
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>>256282963
3K is just FotS all over again
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>>256282992
Ma Chao is an absolute beast.
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>>256282992
Nobody gives a shit, chang.
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>>256283061
Doesn't he hate Ma Teng though? I'd like to keep them both for as long as possible since he doesn't really get any other unique characters aside from the ones you can potentially capture.

Is his "forage for food" mechanic actually useful or is it more just a neat little extra thing you try once and never again?
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>>256282992
Ma Chad and his no fatigue cav is probably the most fun. Kong Rong is basically playing monopoly, Quite fun.
Bandit queen.
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>>256283143
Forage is meh, but your cav is pretty much free and don't tire and you're drowning in silk money.
I put away Ma Teng when Ma Chao came of age, and you can capture Dong Zhuo's generals. You also have Pang De.
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>>256281624
Probably the latest batch of nerfs by Lotus & Co.
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>>256283061
>>256283174
>>256283230
Alright, thanks guys. I'm going to go with Ma Teng I think and then maybe consider a Zheng Jiang playthrough once I'm done.

Enjoy your morning/afternoon/evening/night.
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>>256282963
Why not just all trebs?
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>>256283357
Remember to get Lu Bu and use full vanguard armies.
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>mfw entire army has gorilla deployment

Every battle is an ambush!
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>>256282661
you forgot everyone else below north america
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>>256282584
oh I am laffing, unfathomable delusion
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>Faction Destroyed: Yuan Shao
Best feeling.
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>>256282516
>most streamers already went back to Warhammer
yes, and all of 62 people are giving a fuck
>>256282079
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>>256283124
why are you cucks so vocal about your insecurities?
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>>256282584
>being this biased
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>Liu Bei becomes emperor
>one turn later he dies of """"""""""""old age""""""""""""""""""
really makes you think
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>>256284660
They really should have made it 12 turns = 1 year or something, the map is way too big for the current turn/year ratio. As it is it can take a decade for an army just to cross China even without fighting.
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>tfw can only win unfavor fights by cheesing it
how to git gud? also Lu Bu is pretty op
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>>256284660
Go to Settings to activate Windows
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>>256284764
that's why you dismiss the army and redeploy them close to the target, you retard.
Game is fine like this, I cleared Legendary in 120 fucking turns and none of the big 3 were dead.
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Poor little Zang li. He has only 1 army and 3 commaderies to protect with it.
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>>256284896
>you dismiss the army and redeploy them
Yes, I know that but it's still dumb that it takes that long in terms of the character's lifespan to simply walk across China. I'm not asking for movement speed to be increased am I, I'm saying character lifespans should be increased so that the majority of the named characters aren't dead by the time the first Emperor is declared.

As a side note; calm down princess, you're not the smartest person in a room full of retards, you just don't actually read posts properly or consider opinions other than your own. Pump the brakes a bit, you might avoid a heart attack at thirty.
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>>256284896
>disband this army and teleport the generals across the country
10/10 immersive game design
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SOr ry I have shit to deal with but I'm getting the translatitions done for
https://imgur.com/a/CHZj9Th
Comments says what it's a part of
I think it's like
>Cao Cao vs Sun Ren

>Hero, BANDIt(?), Turban apartments - having good or not so-o good times
>the Zheng Jiang person captured vs reality

Like I coul d post the hangul somewhere but the sort of accursed slang/abbreveiaitations would not work so just
anyway
the Empire sort of sucked I tried just sacking every city I could find but turns out if you don't wait before you attack former ceasfeire dudes people and eeven the dwarves tget upset so I wish someone taought me that in school but like
chaos what's the strategy so chaos invades at some point was I supposed to just venture south or, because they come from north I think? I didn't see the uh greeen skins in one run I think they just attacked the French
uhhh
the thread's dying but so am I can you just link my post in the new thread because I want to play empire finish it so I can play as gobblers because only the f first game
I love
all of you
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June 2019............ I am forgotten
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Chinese sure do say "tian xia" a lot.
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beGONE PEASANT
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Can any of you Dynasty Warriors fans tell me why there are 5 different dudes in this game called Lu Be
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>>256286770
there is not a single person in this game called Lu Be
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God dammit why does nobody ever want to duel Sun Jian. Are they too scared of the tiger of jiandong to even show up to a fight?
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How do you even prevent this
Spying is so shit
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>>256240456
they only stand up if the model stabs them into the ground, otherwise they fall onto the ground.
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just woke up, what did I miss
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>>256286846
you think Sun Jian has it bad?
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>>256235629
New
>>256287380
>>256287380
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>>256287321
Just a few autistis duking it out with American/Canadian chinks

Same shit as always
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>>256286893
Seems like it happens with spies who have shit happiness and maybe grudges against you or friends in the other faction?
I think spying is pretty fun but I have yet to catch a spy or notice being spied on myself.
There should be a way to recall them tho aside from tasking them to steal something and gtfo.

And I suggested last thread that when you have a spy in an army and go to rts battle, there should be a button revealing the spies true allegiance and giving you control over him and, depending on level or how long the spy has been with the army, a few units of his retinue.
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>>256282584

the 24 hour peak is still 81k from 191k after 3 weeks. Which is a retention rate 3 times better than tw warhammer.
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Why am i chasing you inside my town, why don't you fight?!
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>>256251184
Good. I'm tired of historical titles and honestly would want them to go on to LotR or 40k. They can't really do history anymore after ToB and 3K is just kind of 'meh.'



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