PC cucks absolutely seething yet again for not getting their own way

>>638468267
What's with emulators getting steam releases, anyway? Is anyone actually using them this way?

Maybe you shouldnt try to put emulators on Steam. What a stupid fucking move. You're basically daring the companies to put even more effort into stopping piracy. Is it really that hard for you to visit a website and download a file if its not on steam?

>>638468267
>I NEED AN EMULATOR ON STEAM, I NEED EVERYTHING ON STEAM AHHHHH
You're a faggot

>>638468402
I think it's a way of donating to the devs? I think Krita or Gimp or something cost money on the Windows store but was free everywhere else.

>>638468402
>>638468502
Oh yeah? Well I bet GabeN will step in and tell Nintendo to fuck off. They already showed emulators in their Deck videos.

>>638468267
Why are they getting too big for their britches by putting it on Steam? They have a perfectly fine website already. If this is the catalyst to a DMCA on the actual dolphin site too then these are actually the most fucking retarded devs in existence.

>>638468643
>>638468402
Steam deck support

>B-B-BUT EMULATION IS LEGAL THO!!!!!
I told you retards multiple times when the dolphin steam threads first started showing up that Nintendo was going to have a shitfit about it, but you didnt listen.
Legality doesnt matter when you have millions of dollars and dozens of lawyers to stall for as long as you want.

>>638468402
It's not for money, it's to allow users to use the steam cloud to sync saves and settings across devices easily.

>>638468267
is nintendo actually retarded?

>>638468714
It's not like Valve is hurting for money either. But mostly I think Nintendo is hoping a small push will cause them to shut it down on account of not giving a shit and not wanting the hassle.

>>638468708
You can already emulate on the deck. Needing an official way to do it is for tech illiterate mouthbreathers.

>>638468267
Who cares?

>>638468375
https://dolphin-emu.org/
damn that was hard

>>638468708
Not an argument
Dolphin already works fine on the steam deck, and emudeck exists for people too dumb to set it up for themselves

>>638468267
Piratefags BTFO

>>638468802
>It's not like Valve is hurting for money either
Valve isn't going to bat for these guys.

wait arent emulators completely 100% legal?
seems like an unwinnable lawsuit

>>638468267
did they also DMCA the dolphin retroarch core and every other core that emulates one of their consoles? if not, that's just dumb

>>638468267
Whats the diff between downloading this from its official page and from steam?

>>638468714
You overestimate how big Nintendo is as a company. They're carried by their IPs and brand recognition, not their money. Valve is far more stacked.

>>638468808
>>638468880
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT TO USE

No matter how many times Nintendo whines the Bleem! case will never be overturned and emulation will never be illegal

there are basically just 2 reasons to use dolphin on steam
>convenience
>steam cloud
you can still use dolphin on your computer right now

>>638468792
This. You can also get cool features like native SteamInput support, Remote Play Together works well too, and generally just a more streamlined experience (at least that's the goal ultimately)

>>638468808
>>638468880
The appeal would be cloud saving, I guess.

>>638469028
convenience means nothing if it isn't practical, much less when it gets your shit taken down, retard

>>638469028
Not an argument

>>638468714
someone sending a misinformed DMCA is illegal
shut the fuck up didnt even read your post

>>638468267
>DMCA
On what grounds?

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>>638468267
>YOU STOLE ONE OF MY ONLY GAMES
>NOW I'M GONNA GO BANKRUPT

>>638468267
if you expected emulators to stay up on steam, you are retarded anyway. why are you even using such a cucked platform where you don't even own your games, if you're such a le free thinking pirate anyway?

Who cares?
A better update for Dolphin any emulator would be a verification check to make sure you own a legal copy first to prevent people from breaking the law

>>638468267
You could always just use Dolphin WITHOUT getting the emulator from Steam like everyone else does.

>>638469028
Clearly not if shitendo is going after them

>>638468267
>I hate tendies so much, it's unreal.
That's nice. We don't think of you at all.

>>638469249
they're under no legal or moral obligation to do so

>>638469007
maybe it would've made playing online easier? like you could just invite your steam friend to a melee lobby

>>638468502
This. They just dont know the basic rule of it: Shut the fuck up.

>>638469224
And yet Nintendo has done this repeatedly in the past and got away with it.
>shut the fuck up didnt even read your post
I wont and you already did.

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>>638469306
>We
And now we...are me.

>>638469291
>it a company did something then thry must be right and can never be wrong
keep sucking that dick

were they going to charge for it on the steam page? if so no fucking wonder they got dmca'd

>>638469385
>and gotten away with it
name a single fucking time they've gotten away with false dmca'ing emulators

>>638469018
You overestimate Valve and underestimate Nintendo. Nintendo is definitely by far a bigger company. That being said, that anon is retarded, Valve isn't so small that it can get bullied by court fees but Valve also has no reason to go to bat for emulators.

I don't know why you'd need an emulator on steam but Nintendo doesn't have a leg to stand thanks to the bleem case.

>>638469467
they can charge whatever they want for their shit if they want to
what are you even implying

>>638469234
Piracy is a crime, as is drug use.

>>638468267
wait did they really try to release an emulator on steam? (other than retroarch)
wow good job retards

>>638469573
whenever someone starts charging money for an emulator, roms, or a fangame, it get's whacked immediately

>>638468375
Bro I'm running Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door on my PC as I'm typing this. What the fuck are you on?

>>638469467
https://steamdb.info/app/1941680/history/
doesn't look like it.

>Dolphin Emulator is free and open source software, licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2 or newer. Newo Zero and Newo Escape are developed by Owen, with contributions from KenneyNL, Mr. Reaper, jtsknight92, and Julian Mathonet. Used with permission. This software is built to run legally acquired games. Dolphin Emulator does not come with games. We do not condone piracy in any shape or form.

>>638468714
Yeah but valve has BILLIONS of dollars so Nintendo has no chance

>>638469721
anon, stop replying to bait while you're playing video games...

>>638468267
Emulators are totally legal.

>>638468267
>I hate tendies so much
rent free

>>638469714
>emulator
not true
illegal dmca

>>638469495
Heres one from just the beginning of this month
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/05/nintendo-files-dmca-takedowns-on-switch-emulation-tools-just-before-tears-debut/

>>638469523
Valve would have so much to gain from emulation. Imagine Mario on the front page of steam without paying a dime

ok, i'll just go to the website and download it like any normal person would

>>638469028
If anything, it'd be less convenient to use it through Steam

Now, if you all will excuse me, I have to go play THE ENTIRE FUCKING NINTENDO LIBRARY on my Steamdeck...

Modern Nintendo is unironically worse than EA.

>>638468375
/thread

>>638470001
That sounds like it will take a long time. Are you only going for first party games?

>>638469914
that's not a fucking emulator and the court case for that is building retard
god you're fucking stupid

>>638468714
Don’t care, anything that makes Nintendo look bad and lose money is a good thing. Modern Nintendo is a Satanic organization

>>638468267
Steam: You will own nothing and you will be happy.

>>638468714
I hope it goes to court and Nintendo losess again.

>>638468267
this was going to be the obvious response when they announced it and said it was "coming soon"
why not just release it instantly? what is the point of waiting for nintendo to realize and threaten valve?

>>638470335
go outside

>>638470305
>moving the goalposts
Not an argument

>>638470290
I was just joking. What I've actually been enjoying on my Steam Deck lately is a lot of retro RPGs. I've went back and played the entire Dragon Quest series, Phantasy Star, and the Final Fantasy series. I'm just going back to anything that seems interesting, starting with the late 80s and moving forward.

>>638468267
It's just an emulator. How is this expected to hold up in court?

>>638470627
Has nobody seen the video with the guy saying to shut the fuck up if your shit isn't being released immediately?

I wonder why would anyone want to have a fucking emulator on steam of all places, but I can't expect better from retards that need steam in the first place.

Anyone remember they had the mario cap on the steam page for a while. They are really asking for it

>>638470638
Nice, I hope you have fun. How are the phantasy star games, I've yet to give them a go.

does nintendo pay you, mister shill?
you seem awfully invested in defending nintendo's illegal actions and spreading misinformation about emulators
just kidding, we all know you're a fat nigger retard that does it for free

>>638470704
>How is this expected to hold up in court?
It's called the turtle defense. Nintendo is going to hide behind court delays and fees in the hopes that the defendants will eventually buckle under paying so many court fees and be forced to abandon the case.

Many such cases

>>638470704
It 100% is not going to hold up. Nintendo's legal department sends a cease and desist every time the wind blows. Have you noticed that they've never acted upon any of the CnDs?

Emulation is not only legal, it's morally sound. Nintendo doesn't realize that when they take these actions THEY end up looking like the bad guy.

>>638470972
They were really good, but the later ones like Phantasy Star Online and the PSP games were significantly more fun. The early games required a thorough guide to even understand where I was supposed to go or what I was supposed to do at some points.

>>638468402
I thought Dolphin on Steam was an April Fool's joke, this is first I'm seeing it was real

>>638471051
Until it does.
Legal theory is not that simple, and the DMCA has specific rules about circumventing DRM.

i mean yeah. this is was probably gonna happen

>>638469242
This so much
Valvefags are not so far removed from the foaming at the mouth TOtK masses in their fanaticism

Dont give a shit about steam release, just give me retroachievement support already

>>638471317
and exceptions
making personal copies of physical media you own is one of them
and making tools that facilites that is also legal

do they even have legal grounds to do this? emulators are not illegal.

>>638468267
>Steam has no games
>Has to rely on emulators so the steam deck has some value

>>638468267
AAAA FUCK NINTENDO GAMES THEY ARE FOR BABIES ARE ARE DUMB! WHICH IS WHY I WILL PLAY THEM ON MY PC VIA EMULATION!

Its like that gay macho jock who says he isnt gay or bi, yet he keeps sucking cock.

>>638468375
I can run it on my PC it's easy to install just not on the Steam store. Also I can use Steam ROM Manager program if i really wanted to run games through emulation on Steam anyways.

>>638471510
absolutely none

>>638468267
This is what happens when you idiots spoon-feed and brag instead of gatekeeping.

>>638471615
who are you quoting

>>638468502
This is true. I use the Emulators as a non game Steam add on even my games I bought off site like Rance. It's really not hard.

>>638468267
Nintendo niggers are something else,
first them releasing a "stability" update for their dead ass 3ds and now this. the sheer cuckoldry these tendies will do for papa Nintendo is pathetic as fuck

It'll probably be up later
Nintendo actually can't do anything about dolphin, and if they could it would have happened way earlier than the steam release.

I like Valve more than I like Nintendo.

I still want to play games from both, but one company provides a product that allows me to enjoy both.

>>638468267
>all that unironic nintendo dick riding
Jesus Christ.

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>>638471851

They should do the bleed thing

>>638471947
That has nothing to do with what he said, you braindead troll.

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>>638469018
>>638469761
Nintendo is worth about $50 billion, Valve isn't even worth $10 billion

>>638471947
Liking something doesn't automatically make it infallible. You need to spend some time away from your phone and computer.

What kind of fucking turbofaggot needs Dolphin on Steam when it's been available for like a decade?

>>638471138
Not that Anon but I wonder if it's possible to play on Ephinea on the Deck

>>638471510
They didn't have legal grounds to DMCA hundreds of nonprofit fangames either, but they still did it.
Or the reverse engineered PC decomps
Or YouTube videos that even breathed the phrase Nintendo emulation

>>638472093
This is actually what I'm trying to figure out. Like, it takes less than 5 minutes for me to set it up and transfer all my roms onto my Steam Deck. Who needs it on the Steam store?
Also, aren't there a ton of other emulators on there already?

>>638471510
DMCAs were designed for enabling corporate bullying without legal grounding.

>>638471715
That's just the way people are now. They even have Twitter accounts and other social media promoting emulators and their ROMs of ALL of the companies. It's absolutely asinine how people now don't know how to shut the fuck up or learn to use a search engine.

Lmao, Valve has x100 the money that Shitendo has, this shit is going nowhere

>>638472206
I just looked it up, apparently yes! It looks like it takes a couple extra steps, but I'd wager you could have it set up in less than 30 minutes.

>>638472350
imagine just...ignoring the DMCAs?

>>638472483
ignoring DMCAs is illegal
they have to be listened to and challenged in court for their validity

that's the entire point idiot
nintendo thinks they can throw their weight around and just eat the punishment for the bad filings

>>638472483
Didn't people get sued for ignoring dmcas?

>>638472093
Nobody. It's fake Twitter outrage.

>>638468631
They actually took those videos down and reuploaded them with the emulator icons blurred out.

>>638472407
Nintendo has about 5x the money Valve has

>>638470434
>again
When? The one who sued emulator were Sony and Sega. In fact, they don't try it yet.

>>638469224
>misinformed DMCA
I'm glad Anon the lawyer has analyzed the DMCA and knows better than Nintendo's lawyers.

>>638472293
They threatened all those people, but they never actually did anything in 99% of those cases.
>Threatened Earthbound Fangame project, they just continued with a different name
>Threatened Pokemon Uranium, They took their website down, but then reuploaded two weeks later
>CnD to Pokemon Essentials, they immediately went back up and then spawned multiple Pokemon game editors that were even better
>They realized how the report button worked on Youtube and started reporting anyone playing their games, Youtube gradually lets all those videos back online after they realize how retarded that is.

Nintendo is just out of touch and retarded. They know that as soon as it gets taken to any sort of legal debate, they'll immediately get assfucked out of court for being money-hungry cockbags.

>>638472483
>>638472650
>>638471510
Are they DMCAing the Dolphin team or Valve? Cause Valve definitely has enough weight to fight it if they want to.

>>638472861
a dead corpse knows better than nintendo lawyers

>>638468402
Cloud save support on Retroarch is cool, not much other than that.

>>638469926
You mean imagine something that would get Valve fucked in the ass in court? Dumping your own roms is one thing but they can't sell pirated games.

>>638469926
That would open up a whole other can of worms not related to emulation at all. Using other companies intellectual property to sell your own stuff without it being a parody or without paying for licensing would give Nintendo or any company a slam dunk of a lawsuit against Valve and the emulator developers. Emulation is perfectly legal, but promoting products and services using someone else's IP without thier consent outside of parody isn't.

Generally speaking, Valve doesn't have anything to gain by having or letting emulators on steam. They can't/ won't make money off it and can't distribute rom files. Some people may argue its for people who have Steam Decks but wrong go out of thier way and install Dolphin or any other emulator which works just fine on it unless it's on the steam store. The small quality of life assistance for the very few tech-illiterate Steam Deck owners isn't worth damaging their relationship with another major industry player as well as thier overall reputation. Valve put out the Portal games on Switch and could easily make some extra quick cash with other ports of games life Half Life 2 if they wanted to. Letting Dolphin on would easily lead to Playstation emulator on Steam which would upset Sony who puts thier PC ports on Steam, they could easily get mad enough to tell Valve to fuck off and put thier stuff on EGS as exclusives, and I'm sure Little Timmy would love to get something like Spiderman 2, Horizon Forbidden Tranny or God if War Ragnarok as an EGS exclusive on pc for a discount due to Sony having beef with Valve.

>>638468267
But Nintendo doesn’t own Dolphin.

Is this legal? Dolphin itself is neither illegal nor is it Nintendo's property, how can they prevent its release on a game store that itself is also not Nintendo's property?

>>638473097
Dolphin circumvents GC/Wii protections and includes crypto keys. Nintendo could go after their github repo if they wanted, too.

>>638473197
lol

>>638472881
They DMCA'd dolphin's Steam page, so it's not even the software just the steam page itself.

Why? No clue

>>638469238
Needs a Mario hat and mustache

>>638473197
>Dolphin circumvents GC/Wii protections and includes crypto keys
?

>>638473187
Dolphin is in the right, no matter what nintrannies tell you.

>>638472878
What will happen is:
>Nintendo threatens to sue Valve and Dolphin
>Dolphin's Steam store page will go down for six months
>Suddenly Dolphin will come back with a different name
>"Project Emuverse" or some shit like that
>More accessibility, more settings, more options, and more compatibility than ever
>They literally just added a webapps feature that integrates all of your TV and Phone apps like Netflix, Hulu, Crunchyroll, etc... (That was highly supported by those companies, mind you.)

>>638469551
>but Nintendo doesn't have a leg to stand thanks to the bleem case.
Do you people not realize how loudly money talks, no matter what happens in a court of law? Nintendo can keep taking shit to court over and over and over and over and over until the defense has no money or patience to fight anymore.

>>638473187
It is more complicated than that, basically they threat them to remove shit or else they can't taste any cakes from Nintendo consoles anymore. It isn't worth the dime to pursue shit, because even if they don't really see cakes from them interesting, but they might be in the future. It is also a fuck you statement to Sony, and they will choose EGS over Steam because chances that any PS emulators can be released in Steam too like this anon said >>638473072

>>638473197
>Dolphin circumvents GC/Wii protections and includes crypto key
"A-archeologists circumvent the ancient egyptian's tombs by entering the ruins of the pyramids"
Nintendo doesn't make money off of the Gamecube or the Wii, so what the flying fuck does it matter?

>>638468267
>NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOW I CAN'T GET STEAM ACHIEVEMENTS ON MY PIRATED COPY OF BING BING WAHOO

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>>638468267
They cant really stop it, because people will install the shit anyways, it just wont be in an officially supported way.

>>638469587
emulation isn't piracy. and some drug use IS legal. speaking of which, go get your meds, faggot.

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>>638473470
cause it just fucking does because it does
t. retarded tendoid

>>638473456
How would money talk in this instance? In fact, money speaks a little to loudly in this situation. A judge could see how fucking greedy Nintendo is and say "Yeah, no. Fuck that. Valve is within their right to release it." In fact, that's happened in the past multiple times to them.

>>638468714
Valve controls a significant part of the pc gaming market. They aren’t a small company. They have their own army of lawyers, but it wouldn’t make much sense for them to fight against Nintendo unless it meant massive profits.

>>638473187
>>638473242
>>638473323
It embeds Nintendo's property in itself.
https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/blob/86d760b8143989627bdff1be4474ce2fe59db8e9/Source/Core/Core/IOS/IOSC.cpp#L575

Plus they admitted to using leaked trade secrets in the past.
https://emucross.com/dolphin-developer-resurrects-incomplete-wii-ios-feature/
Follow the links and look through the repo he links
>These coded instructions, statements, and computer programs contain unpublished proprietary information of BroadOn Communications Corp., and are protected by Federal copyright law.
BroadOn is the company that did the backend stuff for the Wii.

>>638471317
Nop. Sony tried that and got blasted the fuck really fucking hard. Emulation is legal because it works to preserve the archethecture of the machine, with Reverse architecture

>>638468267
isnt dolphin on retroarch?

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Call the cops, I don't give a fuck.

It was obvious it was going to happen

>>638473662
Now, I want it to happen.
Because Valve has been backed down as well before. They mistakenly put Yuzu in their Deck ads, and in the end, they replaced it.

>>638472881
You send a DMCA notice to the service provider. It's no different than Nintendo sending a notice to Youtube about a video using their copyrighted material. When's the last time you saw Youtube fighting a rights owner in court? The idea that Valve would in any way give a shit about this is comical. They're not involved beyond being the party Nintendo had to send the DMCA notice to. It's now up to the Dolphin team to contest it and potentially fight it in court if Nintendo decide to sue. Valve aren't involved at all at this point.

>>638473187
Try actually reading the takedown notice. There's plenty in the DMCA that covers cicumvention of copy protection.
>Section 103 (17 U.S.C Sec. 1201(a)(1)) of the DMCA bluntly states: “No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.”
Nintendo cited that clause and their argument is that Dolphin uses Nintendo's cryptographic keys to do just that. They would have a decent chance of winning a case on that argument in a US court too.

>>638473758
Sony only tried with regards to marketing it as compatible with the PS1 and using screenshots. Educate yourself, retard.

>>638473740
>blablabla
Don't care, emulation is still legal.

>>638473735
There's literally 0 potential profits for Valve here, they would be distributing a free program. Anyone surprised by this is really stupid.

>>638468402
There is stuff like steam rom manager that let's you add roms as steam games and launch them from steam. It's pretty convenient.

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>>638470773
a fact of life people need to understand is that 95% of emulator developers, modders, romhackers, and fangame developers are doing it TO GET KNOWN
they want to bring attention to themselves
this is why they are so public instead of working on their fangame or whatever in silence and then dropping it
they use an existing popular franchise with rabid fans (example: sonic), make the minimum effort "game" (single level shitty tech demo for "how sonic shud b in 3d") and then do jackshit and maybe hope they get dmca'd so they can look like the victim and gain even more internet popularity for their real project or to get hired by a company
they know full well that their own original and completely legal stuff would never get them nowhere near the same level of recognition
simply put, they don't do it "for the love" or whatever, they are really leeching off the popularity of a big franchise and using it as free advertising to themselves

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kill all tendies lol

>>638473072
>Generally speaking, Valve doesn't have anything to gain by having or letting emulators on steam
I disagree, it massively simplifies Emulator installation for retarded people. Which means the barrier of entry for emulation gets lower.
Obviously this is "threatening" for old companies who want to gatekeep decade+ old single player games that only they can normally rerelease, because once you know how to install the emulator finding guides that tell you where to get games is the next step and is much easier.
or tl;dr Nintendo are just being greedy retards again and are mad that Valve can circumvent their greed to make their platform more attractive through completely legal means, so they're doing corporate bullying to try and get their way

>>638473919
And in the same lawsuit it was determinated to be legal. What is your point anyways?

>>638474023
>Valve doesn't have anything to gain
>I disagree
>[posts irrelevant points and nothing about Valve gaining anything]
uh-huh

>>638474023
But Valve doesnt gain anything from it directly. They can't monetize the emulator and any time spent in the emulator playing games is time they aren't spending playing and buying Steam games.

>>638474128
The lawsuit had nothing to do with emulation.

>>638468267
RetroArch has been on steam for over a decade, why are they lashing out on Dolphin now?

>>638474023
Yeah, then losing Sony and Xbox as their customers? Fucking retard

>>638474023
>it massively simplifies Emulator installation for retarded people. Which means the barrier of entry for emulation gets lower
You forgot to write the part where explain why Valve would give a shit about that. They don't make any money if you download Dolphin from Steam. They don't make any money from you downloading games to run on it either. Valve have literally zero stake in this, unless you're genuinely delusional enough to believe that Steam needs the publicity or something.

>>638468375
It seems as though you are the one that is angry, friend.

>>638468375
Nintentards raging over PC gamers enjoying Nintendo games on superior PC.

FYI, emulators are legal.

>>638473740
If that is true Nintendo would have taken them down years ago
You are retarded

>>638474234
100% they put any game screenshots in their page.

>>638474234
Because they got cucked on totk and are flailing around in blind rage about it.

>>638474187
>>638474190
>>638474235
>>638474281
this sure pissed off the tendies

>638468375
They're not DMCA'ing the emulator, but the Steam release.
Anyone can download the standalone version from Dolphin's official website rigth now.
Retard.

>>638474340
But enough about yourself.

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>>638468267
>Block your path.

>>638469587
>Piracy is a crime
Emulation isn't Piracy, and the term "piracy" doesn't even reflect what actually happens when someone downloads a rom off the internet. It's shit that some manipulative, limp-wristed twats came up with a long time ago to give it some sting to people that don't know any better.

Piracy would be if you took something by force. It would only be stealing if the person no longer had the thing themselves. But in fact, roms come from a person that bought the product themselves, then shared it on the internet. If you had a tape recorder, and you recorded a song that was being played in the background, it's the same thing, (Which most retards will say, "That's wrong too!") But the only people that get hurt by piracy are the people that create, market, and sell the games themselves. People who we have said time and time again don't know how to do their jobs properly. When a game is actually good and worthwhile, I'll purchase it.

Companies themselves use underhanded tactics to wring every dollar they can out of people and willingly manipulate them into purchasing subpar products, and yet nobody is seriously taking legal action against the entire game industry. They literally have teams of scientists and researchers and sociologists and Machiavellian advertising people all monitoring your every move to see if they can trick you or deceive you into spending as much money as possible on their products... You can choose not to purchase them, for sure. But what if you could choose to enjoy them without falling for their shit?

>>638473967
Yeah that’s why they aren’t and won’t fight it. They aren’t a charity for emulator enjoyers.

>>638474340
Their policy has been "as long as you aren't retarded, then you are fine." Before, they were not retarded, but by putting it on Steam, they are retarded. Let's see how it will play out.

>>638474407
Why don't you go host a rom download site from your own pocket? You believe you get money for simply making other people download roms. Put your personal info on the site too. Do it and see how much money you get. I encourage you.

>>638474570
What's different between putting something on Git and Steam? Publicity? I can't think of anything else.

>>638473967
They have, for promoting Deck. We know Nintendo are in panic with the success of Deck. I can even play ToTK flawlessly with Deck.

>>638474229
Mega retard
> Sony sued Connectix for copyright and patent infringement. Sony argued that because its emulator allowed PlayStation games to be played on PCs, it was harmful to game publishers, developers, creators and ultimately consumers.
Sony was suing a company that dedicated on making PS1 emulator on PC. It was later declared to be free use. It ended with sony buying conectix

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Go ahead, Gordon. Slot the Dolphin into the Steam port.

>>638474234
They are probably grasping at straws for some retarded shit, like the Steam Achivements aprils fools pick that included Link.

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>>638474148
>That's like asking why doesn't Nintendo legitimize piracy. It doesn't make any business sense. It's that simple and not open to debate.

>>638474702
>We know Nintendo are in panic with the success of Deck
I guess I'm the only non-delusional owner of a Deck. Deck owners will really say retarded shit like this.

>>638474702
Why would they fight a very costly and potentially lengthy legal battle to promote a product that they have already cornered the market with. Doesn’t make sense.

>>638474440
Cope retard

>>638474570
What? They aren't like that at all. Nintendo is extremely protective of its intellectual property, they've taken down a shit ton of fan games.

>>638474702
Yeah, I don't know how this is so hard to understand. People merely using Steam is a good thing for Valve cause it gets people into their ecosystem.

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>>638468267
Based. Gaben Fats in literal tears.

This just proves to me that the deck makes nintendo and tendies seethe, which makes me all the more happy i bought it.

>>638468267
Oh no, I gotta google dolphin emulator now instead of using steam… fuck Nintendo either way right? I mean right? Let’s just steal and promote stealing. What are we niggers

>>638474813
No, it just means you are retarded and get trolled way too easily to the point of responding to those posts. People just like to troll people who like Nintendo.

>>638468267
people need to stop treating nintendo like they're anything other than trash. absolutely terrible company, the games are cool sometimes tho.

>>638474784
>"It's not open to debate!"

>>638474850
TOTK being playable on PC and Deck weeks before the Switch retail version has utterly mind broken Tendies to a level I've never seen before.

Only for the game to sell ridiculous numbers, like wow who could have seen that coming.

why would anyone try to release an emulator on steam. this is retarded.

>>638474680
Reachability and trust certified.
Your average joe will trust anyshit in Steam than Git.

>>638474023
>No way to monetize it
>Costs them a tiny bit of money to have it on the store and service downloads
>Damages thier relationship with another company they've worked with in the past
>Sends a bad message to Sony and to a much lesser extent Microsoft, potentially causing them to put thier PC ports elsewhere even for a limited time.
>All to help people too retarded to download emulators but not retarded enough to know what they are and how to look stuff up on Steam.


They really don't have anything to gain, but they do have money to lose. Hell, the only person who gains from it is Tim Sweney.

>>638474934
Sure bro, you were only pretending to be retarded.

>>638475028
>why would anyone try to release an emulator on steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118310/RetroArch/

>>638469523
Nintendo can't even do anything since emulators are not illegal.

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>>638469234
It's baseless. It's just to deter Valve from releasing it. Would work as I imagine they're afraid to go to court over something so small.

>>638474850
Other away around famm, it's the steam deck trannies who can't stop thinking about Nintendo. You can't even have a steam deck general on /v/ hit post limit unless the thread is about Nintendo.
>>638475013
>Only for the game to sell ridiculous numbers
This is probably the biggest ass fucking this board has ever gotten.

>>638475074
If they want to compete Nintendo, then sure why not do that tho.
Deck has been proven once and once again that it is more superior to Switch. I bet even Switch 2 will be even less better than Deck.

>>638475013
yeah exactly. Steamies get their emulated game running at a decent playability, tendies still get their slop fed to them and it shatters records everywhere. Everyone wins. I dont see the issue. Except Nintendo fucking seething about it lmao

>>638475341
>You can't even have a steam deck general on /v/ hit post limit unless the thread is about Nintendo.
It's almost like Nintendies get mad when they're compared to anything else.

>>638472878
>Threatened Earthbound Fangame project, they just continued with a different name
for the record they never actually did get a DMCA for mother 4, they preemptively changed it because they *were scared of* getting one, and the depth of the changes they'd already committed proved that AM2R and pokemon uranium getting DMCAs were a convenient bandwagon for them to justify the changes

oddity is still no closer to release than it was before lol

>>638468267
This isn't legally valid complaint, wtf?

>>638472034
Do you have a single fact to back that up, considering Valve isn't a publicly traded company?

>>638473740
>I am retard

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can you niggers shut up about dunking on tendies for five minutes

you are exhausting to read through and you pop up like roaches, scuttle under the fucking fridge when i turn the lights on like a roach at least

>>638475417
You don't actually need any cause or legal grounding to fire off a DMCA. Copyright law is intensely in favor of the IP holder courtesy of Disney.

>>638474680
Yes, essentially. Putting it on Steam lowers the barrier to entry and puts more eyes on it. Normies generally only ever interact with emulation through official means (like the mini consoles). It's also the reason there are fucking Fitgirl repacks of Switch games bundled with a pre-configured emulator included. Most people see it as too much hassle or too complicated to set it all up themselves.

>>638474827
Because taking down fan games is easy. They have them bang to rights using Nintendo's IP, which would be trivial to sue someone for. Arguing against the legality of emulation itself would/will be a MUCH harder, longer and more expensive legal battle, and one with the potential to backfire on them if they don't win. Everybody's aware of the Bleem/VGS cases, but there's also tons of legal ground to argue beyond the scope of what was covered there. Up until this point companies like Nintendo have been content enough to let sleeping dogs lie and tolerate emulation as the still relatively niche thing it's been. Clearly it being advertised on a (rival) service as huge as Steam, in a manner which also lowers the bar to entry, is where the line is drawn for them.

>>638472759
>>638468631
it's wat you do till legal battle ends else you get charged more.

>>638475513
he does not, valve has so much fuck-you money from essentially being the entire PC games publishing industry that they can do whatever they feel like until the end of time

>>638468558
you are a worthless retard

>>638469028
the easier it is for the normalfag to access it. the eagerly the companies are to hunt them down.

>>638475541
>waaaaaah waaaaaaaah
no

>>638475778
>waaaaaah waaaaaaaah tendies
jej

>>638475586
>Clearly it being advertised on a (rival) service as huge as Steam, in a manner which also lowers the bar to entry, is where the line is drawn for them.
Retroarch is already on steam and it emulates nintendo games.

>>638474298
>FYI, emulators are legal
They're not legal when you don't have a legit copy of the game you're emulating, why you retards always use that argument
I'm emulating psp right now and it's basically pirating because I don't even have the games I'm emulating to begin with

>>638475541
Mute the thread Tendie.

>>638475641
Valve has probably made more from TF2 hats and CS gambling than all their high profile Switch releases combined, in the last two years that is

>>638475874
>Cars aren't legal when you kill people with them!

>>638474358
They're all homebrew
https://steamdb.info/app/1941680/history/

>>638475874
They use that argument because that's how it legally works, the program itself is completely legal to own and distribute because the logic goes that you are entitled to a backup digital copy of your video game and a program that runs that backup copy is not a violation of IP laws. Obviously you're pirating with it, but that's the worst-kept secret of all time that emulators are used for piracy.

>>638475874
Emulators are legal.
Downloading ROMS off the internet and/or distributing them is illegal.
Ripping copies of games you legally own and making backups of them, and even playing them in emulators is completely legal.

>>638474358
Did the dolphin store page use any copyrighted game screenshots?

>>638475665
And you're a fucking retard that's asking for the corpo to dick you in the ass for not figuring out how to go to a different website to download the emulator you blind tranny.

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Lol the seething is happening so fast, people haven’t realized that the Dolphin devs fucked up by including the Wii’s copywrited encryption key in the Dolphin Emulator instead of it being separate that the user needs to provide like in Retroarch or other emulators. AKA Nintendo does have factual legal grounds for the case against Dolphin and could cause serious damage to the emulation community now.

Download Dolphin before its too late /v/bros

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>Steam heavily promotes shit like playing Windows games on Linux
>people are surprised people think Steam will also back playing Nintendog games on a PC OS

>>638475874
>They're not legal
No, they're still legal, but the pirated game (or BIOS as the case may be) in question is not legal. That's like saying owning a hammer is illegal because you could smash someone's head with it. There is nothing illegal about the tool, there are only illegal applications of the tool.

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pirates be like:
>yo here are 10000 free movies
pirates also be like:
pic related

>>638475665
If you need Steam to install software, you're a fucking idiot who should sell their "gayming PC" and buy a Speak & Spell, because that's more your level, at this point.

>>638475997
>>638476050
nta but the part commonly omitted is that while backup copies are legal, the process to rip/dump them is usually not and requires circumventing security to reach that point.

>>638475874
you are the stupidest mother fucker
>your gun isnt legal becsuse you can kill someone with it

>>638468981
Look at this idiot who thinks the law actually matters to the rich

>>638476168
damn nigger you'll actually vouch for secuROM-riddled installers just to get one over on le steamies

>>638476084
You don't need to provide any encryption keys for Retroarch
Certain cores need a BIOS but not even all of them do
This sounds tendie bullshit

>>638469757
*wink wink nudge nudge*

>>638476172
that circumvention IS legal though

>>638475874
The emulation is legal, using the emulator to play rooms is not. Emulation is legal by basis of
A. Free use
B. Reverse enginering
C. Saving the "code" of consoles

>>638468375
I'm playing TOTK in 4K60fps while you're stuck playing it at 720p20.
Keep seething nintendie.

>>638476293
I said USUALLY not, as opposed your blanket statement. But go argue in the court of law.

>>638476323
Wrong emulator, wrong console generation, wrong thread. Retard.

>>638476294
>using the emulator to play roms is not.
dude you are fucking delusional

>>638475901
Nah. Pokemon completly BTFO TF2 and CSGO "not gambling" just by the sheer amount of merchandising

>>638476369
>I said USUALLY not
and i corrected your false statement
it always is

>>638468631
valve won't do shit because there's nothing for them to gain there
the emulator is free for on steam so valve is getting nothing from that and it's not like you can purchase ROMs

>>638468375
fpbp, came here to post this. steamcucks seething over not being able to steal, lmao

>>638475028
Because it's strictly legal.
Sony and its army of lawyers lost, yet you expect Nintendo to do better?

dolphin is older than the wii
why do they care now

>>638476459
It always is... not. There's always a million asterisks attached then it happens.

>>638476172
Im almost positive there was a landmark courtcase that set the precedent that doing that WAS legal. How can you say
>Making backups is legal
>Actually performing the action of making backups is actually illegal though

at the same time
Its like saying working on your car is legal but if you pop the hood cops can arrest you

>>638476489
>valve is getting nothing
they're also doing shit like Proton despite the Linux userbase of Steam being infinitely smaller than the Windows one.
Valve does a lot while getting nothing, probably cause they can afford it, private company yo

>>638476370
>tendie malding over truth
bing bing wahoos truly are subhuman garbage

>>638476592
alguem br?

>>638474702
>We know Nintendo are in panic with the success of Deck.

Define success. Steam Deck has sold just over 3 million units which isn't a ton, but since it's a niche piece of hardware and not a true platform it's doing OK as long as they don't sell the hardware at a loss. Nintendo is currently selling around 10 Switch systems for every Steam Deck sold, and that's with the Switch being really old.


https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/report-steam-deck-to-pass-3-million-sales-during-2023/

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/omdia-steam-decks-total-console-sales-count-to-hit-3m-units-in-2023

>>638475342
Deck and Switch are two totally different pieces of hardware in different markets.
Steam Deck competes more with "gaming" laptops and other portable PCs more than out does the Switch. It'll never be able to be a huge thing in the industry unless Valve is able to produce, market and sell enough of them to compete with a more traditional console, which does not seem to be what Valve wants or is capable of doing. The Deck generally appeals to enthusiasts who want to play thier Steam games on the go as opposed to thier PC. A Switch 2 and Steam Deck wouldn't really effect each other, and if they did it would only be in positive ways.

>Nintendo would be pressured to put out stronger hardware
>Indie and third-party developers would be pressured into having thier games be able to run on Switch 2 since it'll be more capable which means better optimization for low spec hardware which means better overall optimization and more compatible games for Steam Deck
>Valve, if they wanted to compete directly, would be pressured into putting out an improved or cheaper Deck, this fueling more games to be compatible with it due to it having a larger user base.

>>638476515
If anything sony would do it worse, I don't know what makes you think the opposite

WHERE ARE ALL OF YOU FUCKING CONSOLE WARRIORS COMING FROM

HURR TENDIES
HURR STEAM DECK, TENDIES AFRAID
HURR STEAM NINTENDO RIVALRY

WHY DID YOUR MOTHERS DRINK WHILE THEY WERE PREGNANT

>>638476617
good post

>>638476547
I didn't say the action, I said getting to that point.
Pardon my School of Wikipedia, but:
>Thus, if there is some "technological measure that effectively controls access to a work", it is illegal to circumvent that measure. However, Section 1201 creates several exceptions to this rule, and the Library of Congress is empowered to create additional exceptions.
Now before you say
>LOOK, EXEMPTIONS!
Exactly. Exemptions. It has to be challenged every time a new exemption is needed.

>>638476526
that's what the fucking exception is for dumbass
it ALWAYS is legal to make a personal backup of the physical media you own and circumvent copy protection to do so
copy protection is only a physical deterrent for law abiding citizen's and a base for a legal claim against ACTUAL piracy, ie people breaking copy protection to actually commit piracy and spread copies

>>638476589
proton is just a wine fork it costs them virtually nothing even if they had several full time devs on it and only works because of dxvk and vkd3d which is not by valve but some dudes

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>>638468267
Nintensisters how can we stop them?

>>638476489
>What is Steam Deck

>>638476374
Nigger google "is emulation legal" and you will find 99% of the time something along the lines of "emulating is legal, dowloading ROMS and using the emulator to run them is not"

even snoys have no issue with pc ports but nintendo manchildren are mad in rage when people play emulated games instead of paying jewtendo $60 for a ROM
why are nintendo fans like this? what causes it? low T?

>>638476725
making lawful personal backups is not a new exemption, it's been there
how long are you going to keep this up

Armchair lawyer thread

>>638476253
Your delusion doesn’t change the facts lol Dolphin’s program includes Nintendo’s copywrited material with the key being embedded into the program to authorize and decrypt roms, which is what they DCMA’d Dolphin for. None of the other emulators have these keys built into these programs which is where Dolphin fucked up. Putting the program in that state on a storefront just gave the emulator Nintendo’s attention to strike it off the internet, so I’m serious if you like to emulate download it now while it’s still up

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>activision goes on C&D spree
>nintendo fucking around again
>all the fun shit being taken away so people will HAVE TO CONSUME switch online and COD:MW2 for lil timmies

>>638468267
>>638468714
>>638475665
What is the advantage of running free (and sometimes even open source) software through a closed platform like Steam besides "owning the tendies"?

>>638476841
How long are you going to ignore what I originally said? I never said personal backups were illegal. I said the steps to make them USUALLY (NOT always) are.

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>>638476695
This is just what happens when the "PC can do anything lol" fanbase has to share a room with the "Nintendo can do no wrong" fanbase

>>638476051
I rechecked an archived copy, screenshots mostly seemed to be homebrew, only one image had the wii pointer cursor, but everything else seems clean

>>638476913
there isnt. its technically worst if anything

>>638476834
downloading roms illegally, is illegal
playing your roms on an emulator is not illegal

>>638469338
>Shut the fuck up.
Pirates will never, NEVER do this. They will pay for every game they ever pirated before they shut up about pirating. It is quite literally the one and only thing they are incapable of.

>>638468267
but it was already on steam via retroarch.

>>638468375
"getting their way"? Who cares? Why would you care about people playing old games on PC? Nintendo is not even losing money and even if they did, again, who cares? They are a multi billion dollar company. They don't give a fuck about you, and you shouldn't give a fuck either.

>>638475843
RetroArch itself is a further layer of abstraction from just being an emulator, more difficult to use than standalone emulators anyway thanks to its fucking retarded UI and also not directly focused on emulating Nintendo games either. Not to mention that the Steam version has a limited selection of cores, with the only Nintendo ones being for older or handheld systems. Dolphin is a single-purpose piece of software focused on Nintendo and much easier to use. It's not hard to see why one is more likely to attract attention than the other. Doing this is also probably designed to scare off projects like Cemu, Ryujinx or Yuzu from ever attempting to launch on Steam. I have no doubt that Nintendo seethes much more about the latter two especially than anything else.

>>638469926
>Imagine Mario on the front page of steam without paying a dime
That would be stupider than simply allowing emulation and covering your eyes.

>>638476913
cloud saves and steam input for native controller support on basically everything under the sun

>>638476857
Yeah sure, keep up with your schizo ramblings
I'm sure they just remembered that after Dolphin existed for 19 years and it ill go down tomorrow lmao

>>638476942
never are
you're just incorrect on that

>>638476913
Same reason why the Linuxcucks use the Snap Store.
It's convenient.

>>638477083
We're free to disagree.

>>638468375
>>638476504
Quit samefagging you tranny.

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>>638468375
>just beat Breath of the Wild 2
>now playing through Twilight Princess
The only seething is coming from bootlickers that screaming for Nintendo jannies to take down completely legal software.

>>638476084
>copywrite
retard. you can't copyright a key, it's not a creative work. the DMCA applies because using someone's key without permission is circumvention. however, this alone does not constitute a violation if it was done for the purpose of interoperability, which is the case for an emulator. if there is no other way to enable software to run in an emulator, then circumvention is necessary to achieve that function.

none of this really matters though, because nintendo would issue a takedown regardless of whether they had a legitimate case to do so, and specifically they want to pressure valve into banning emulators outright so they don't need to present a legitimate argument in court.

>>638477049
The Dolphin core isn't available for RA on Steam. You have to sideload it.

>>638477125
Wannabe FOSS-lords just do not understand the convenience aspect of being on Steam, their whole argument is that Steam is inherently the devil and they won't use it under any circumstances. Like good for them but unless you pirate everything you're going to be using Steam for some stuff eventually.

>>638476736
It costs them virtually nothing cause Valve makes a lot of money, but they have 100+ developers working on that shit.
https://archive.is/rLP9b

>>638477170
>bootlickers that screaming for Nintendo jannies to take down completely legal software.
are these bootlickers in the room with us right now?

>>638476996
You know what i am refering to

>>638477061
>n-no that doesn't count because I say so
Nice mental gymnastics, but your logic is still retarded

>>638477152
no you're free to be wrong
a disagreement implies some opinion is involved
law isnt an opinion

>>638477337
And your interpretation of the law is an opinion. Bye.

>>638475874
>>638475997
I pirated my games for my Wii and 3DS all the time, so it's not really any different whether I use an emulator or a real system; shit's free.

>>638477294
no i dont because you're speaking fucking nonsense

>>638474023
>Which means the barrier of entry for emulation gets lower.
this is not a good thing, at all.

>>638477215
yeah but it was still available and the community hub had a guide on how to do it.
thats public enough.
besides. there is legal and technological presedent for emulators being legal.
im not just talking about the bleem court case with sony but a lot of companies rely on emulation in modern hardware. the realtek sound chip on pretty much every motherboard emulats a few old yamaha chips to get the sound right.
its foolish on nintendos part to dmca. they should have privately contacted valve and asked them to take it down isntead of going to war. chances are valve would have done it just to be nice.

>>638477316
I accept your concession.

>>638477425
trying to gatekeep emulation makes you one of the highest tiers of cocksucker in the solar system

>>638476736
Valve has been paying "those dudes" and CodeWeavers, the Wine maintaners, for ages for their work on Proton and DXVK. They've also been putting a lot of staff on it and merging their code back upstream to Wine, a lot of the improvements in Wine and new features like HDR support came from Valve's work on Proton.

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>>638469145
hot take but if this is the goal - to use an emulator to hijack the same "experience" from a Nintendo service - then I think Nintendo is fully justified to do what they're doing.

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>>638477254
A bootlicker, and a retard, yes. Also, make sure to turn on the Hyrule Field FPS patch if you're on Dolphin 5.0.0+

>>638477425
for big corporations hoarding their old games like dragons, yes

>>638476913
Generally speaking, there isn't, you'll get an on-par experience at best, and likely a worse one over time depending on how updates are handled. Dolphin is so stable and solved now that it wouldn't be THAT worse in most cases. The only benefit is that it'll be "easier and more accessible" to people who have enough tech-literacy to play games on PC via Steam but not enough to download and run emulators that have been around for 15 or so years.

"Owning the 'tendies" by helping retards is really the only real reason.

>law says you can do x
>"hey did you know the law says you can do x"

>that's just you opinion man
lol
what a dumbfuck
glad to know you never had an argument to begin with and were just another tendie shill troll faggot

>>638477473
retarded normalfags do not deserve anything good.
>>638477508
the old games are already up on the internet. it is literally not my fault that computer illiterate normalfags cannot seek it out for themselves.

Nintendo did the right thing, Dolphin in stealing all the potential sales from Nintendo's Wii and GC games on Switch. All 5 of them.

>>638477593
Too scared to quote reply?

>>638477636
being a frickin' based-ment dweller actually does not make you smarter

>>638477493
If Nintendo wants people to play on their shit system they can start by making it an attractive service

>>638477449
Nice cope

>>638477684
feel free to have any compelling arguments at any time anon, your ad-hominem is laughable

>>638477178
It may be necessary, but it’s still nintendo’s property when their employees they paid created that encryption key and someone else using it “just because it’s necessary for the emulator to work!” Isn’t going to change that someone else is using Nintendo’s property without their permission and that isn’t permissible in a court of law lmfao

>>638477421
You know i specified DOWNLOAD ROMS RIGTH???

I swear emulator trannies are like the vegans of vidya, always telling people they're trannies who emulate games just like vegans always tell everyone they're vegans.

>>638477448
They haven't "gone to war". Filing a DMCA complaint is the correct, legal way to go about this. I'm really not sure why some of you seem to think this is Valve vs Nintendo in any way. Nintendo aren't attacking Valve. They're asking them to process a standard request. It would have been much WORSE for Valve to simply quietly take down Dolphin, as then they'd be the ones catching shit for it. As it is, they're not involved at all. They have zero choice about whether to comply with a DMCA request, and if anyone complains they can direct them to Ninetendo, because they filed it. Valve has no skin in the game at this point. The Dolphin team will either fight it or not and the world will keep turning.

>>638477473
if emulation didn't have some amount of gatekeeping there would be a much larger effort from game companies to end it

>>638476084
Ah shoot, it is a reasonable argument. So, putting it on Steam just made them known by Nintendo.

>>638477751
"ad hominem" from somebody that complains about normalfags is hysterical

>>638477694
See: >>638477449

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>>638477792
>go into a thread about emulation
>get mad

If I focus on specific applications of a law I can ignore the rest! I am smart.

You can’t DMCA an emulator faggots. You lost this case in the 90’s. You really want to fuck with a company with a jewish leader that is 20 times your worth?

>>638477781
The court of law as already ruled that as fair use in the past in the Sega v. Accolade suit and recently in the Apple v. Corellium. That type of bypassing can be considered "fair use".

So how long is it gonna be until companies try to get any form of emulation rebranded as illegal and which company is gonna get the ball rolling first?

Now I want to see PCSX2 announce a Steam launch.
Sony couldn't be that stupid, right?

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>>638477898
you're still not disputing any of my claims, homie. normalfags do not deserve to be pandered to by the emulation scene at all. either they get smart enough to seek out the stuff on their own or they remain chained to shitass companies like nintendo hoping and praying they'll be merciful enough to throw a chewed up bone with the marrow sucked out to them.

>>638477853
you're like 30 years too late for this

>>638477903
See >>638477694

>>638478050
They've already tried (and failed) and they will probably keep failing.

>>638478097
what claims, you're a mouthbreather that can't stand being insulted while mouthing off about normies, you don't deserve an argument or a milk-crate to stand on while delivering them

>>638478050
There's already a legal precedent that makes emulation legal. They aren't going to do shit

>>638478182
>what claims
the one that says normalfags do not deserve to be pandered to.
>you don't deserve an argument or a milk-crate to stand on while delivering them
i emulated a milk crate to stand on, so eat shit.

>>638478097
>>638477751
I fucking hate this psuedo-intellectual angle from /v/irgins that want to come across as smart for being disdainful of the world outside the shed they live in on their mother's property

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>>638468267
>Hate Nintendo
>But also hate Valve
Hopefully they'll kill each other.

>>638478050
To outlaw emulation you'd basically have to also outlaw Virtualization, Compatibility Layers and pretty much every kind of software interoptability imaginable. No goverments is crazy enough to do that and big tech would fight to keep it.

Even in the console space you'd kill any kind of game collections that don't match the console vendor, like Megaman games on PS5 and Xbox. They'd rather just be passive aggressive about it.

>>638477842
falsly issueing a dmca claim is not the corret way to go about it.
this was also solved a few years ago where nintendo was in a similar courtcase where a precedent was set that as long as nintendo is not actually selling games on pc any software that emulates their systems and does not contain copyrighted material by nintendo is fair game. that was a huge blow to nintendo and im surprised you dismissed or maybe didnt know about it cause it was all over /v/ for weeks.

the anti-emualtor sentiment by nintendo fans started shortly after. might be a coincidence... or not.

>>638469587
Both should be legal and encouraged. I'm tired of big corporation getting in their way

>>638478013
>You can’t DMCA an emulator faggots.
That's technically not what they're doing. They're DMCA'ing the store page for the emulator.
Dolphin will continue to exist and function as it has been for years now, it just may or may not be available on and integrated with steam.