>>638393176
better game (zelda) came out at the same time

>>638393176
limbros won

>>638393276
no they didnt

It didn't

>>638393176
Because gamers are racist against china

>>638395294
it did.
no one, not even mihoyo fans care bout the game anymore
it is supposed to be the next genshin

>>638393176
A smaller team is in charge of Star Rail, anon. Even we are not goong to have another planet to visit until mext year at least.

>>638395662
>small team
100m budget.

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>>638393176
Flailing reminder

>>638395662
>smaller team
supposed to be the main focus of mihoyo so false

>>638395879
based

>>638393176
I like it, easier to get good shit as a free to play player then genshin, and I find the turn based combat fun.

It's a good in-between to play on my phone on lunch breaks or whatever.

>>638397260
you can emulate actual jrpgs on your phone you know

>>638393176
honky has no content

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>>638395364
>Genshin made 250 million in its first month
>Honkai 100
>It's the next big thing!!!
lmao

>>638397841
what in the ESL

>>638395662
So much for the supposed passion project, I guess.

>>638397841
it's supposed to be a passion project where mihoyo will spend all their money on dumbass

>>638395364
>more than 100 million is a flop
you retards are getting desperate

>>638397743
Seething gachanigger

>>638398248
>he didn't check the OP pic

>>638393176
I think the racoon is very cute

Only heard about this game because of all the furfags fapping to the mascot character. Other than that i’ve heard literally nothing else.

>>638397743
I look like this and I say this

>>638393176
cmon, tendie, its getting boring already

>>638398341
>guy who joins threads about things he hates for years on ends to post the same image that nobody cares about
>accusing others of seething
Obsessed

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>>638398145
>>638397986
>passion project
Only delusional honkeks say this. I've yet to see a single Star Rail screenshot, how does the game even looks? Are all the soulful environment design artists and composers on it or do they keep them in Genshin?

>>638398412
rent
free

>>638398514
Genshin unironically looks worse. Especially in terms of character models.

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>>638399059
>30 seconds cinematic animation
>0.0001 damage
summarizes shit rail pretty well

>>638397630
I've already played all the classics, and I find phone emulation tedious.

>>638393176
>haha yoiur AAA game that made 100s of millions of dollars has a lower user score than the indie FOTM!11

wow they must be seething (they aren't)

>>638399564
all the classics?are you sure?

>>638399892
I really, really don't understand why someone is trying to force a beef between these two completely unrelated games.
I enjoy both for different reasons.

>>638399892
>barely made back its budget
>scores lower than some random indie game
yeah it flopped

i don't know a single character from this, but i know about sexo goat girl from genshin. never played any gacha games by the way

>>638399892
>passion project that's supposed to be remembered for years
>forgotten in a month by non chinks
yeah

>>638395707
How the fuck did this thing have a 100 million budget when it looks like some PS3 era JRPG with half the content.

>>638400756
bureaucracy and corruption.

Shiet why not just play a regular JRPG there's a shitload of them out there. I even understand playing Genshit before this

>>638400942
hoyodrones are the zoomer version of tendies with their unending brand loyalty

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>>638399059
I don't really have a problem when the animations are wayyy too long but there's not punch when it hits and the numbers are barely noticeable (size, color, effects), SMTIV have literal jpgs as characters but goddamn it feels/looks good to play. Genshin TCG unironically has better hit feedback for a card minigame, but I understand why they designed HSR like that, people have to buy the girls and their animations and it's not like they catered to the jrpg fans who hate everything not-japan.

Shitcord troons are still at it, I see

>>638398514
Dont ask Honcuckolds something. They deluded themselves that everything with "Honkai" in its name is a passion project, despite the writing in Honkai 3rd, Genshin and Star Rail being almost the same (extremly long, kind of lacking character and constantly referencing spiritual/scientific real world concepts but in a wrong manner(in order to seem smart I suppose)). The only exception being Star Rail, with the main character constantly breaking the 4th wall (ecks dee this is a game haha so whacky! Reddit gold, here I come~!), probably to tap into the success of genshins forced Emergency food meme.

I played all 3, and while Genshin is objectively the better game, its still gacha trash so cant recommend it

>>638400942
its not even hoyodrones; Star Rail players WILL downtalk anything in Genshin, simply because it doesnt have Honkai in its name.

>>638395364
Genshinfag hands typed this

>>638399059
>This webm is the entire character
>This is it, this is all she does, right here in this 11 second clip
This is why Star Rail failed.

>>638399059
I hate JRPGs so much.

>>638401968
CRPG*

>>638393176
It's boring.
>>638393276
Nope, it's unironically fucking over.

>>638393176
I’m just over gacha shit. I’d rather just pay $70 or less for a game, then unlock everything naturally.

Plenty of anime games already do this.

>>638401804
isn't her a completely randomized character with randomized stats and skills based on mahjong ?

>look mom I made the thread again!

>>638393176
>reddit tower
kys and your indieslop game

>>638398514
Genshin has great environmental visuals and exploring with puzzles is pretty fun, but writing is absolutely atrocious, it legit physically hurts me
Star rail has less exploration, easier grind, better music, MUCH better writing and overall visual style is more appealing
You can compare them and prefer one to another, but those are two very different games and good/bad in their own way
And everyone knows their passion project is Zzz

There is nothing wrong with gacha, Master Duel and Limbus is a living fact that /v/ agreed gacha is good.

>>638403287
She has two abilities: draw mahjong piece and throw mahjong piece.
When you press draw mahjong piece, there is a chance you will get the pieces that give her an AoE effect and more damage on throw mahjong piece. There are no other effects.
And then her ultimate hits all enemies and gives you a guaranteed AoE effect on your next throw.
That's the entire character.

>>638404561
wow.

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>>638393176
It didn't.

>>638404873
>chink exposed himself
kek

>>638404561
I wouldn't mind simplistic character kits if the game let you use more than 4 characters in combat. Either 6-8 active at all times or 4 active characters and a pool of reserve characters you can spend a turn to bring to the front line instead of another active characters, like how you can switch your demons mid combat in SMT. That way the game could have a lot more tactical depth.
As it stands, SR's gameplay is more basic and boring than in decade old, below average JRPGs.

>>638406153
Valkyrie Profile is the most simplest turn based JRPG you can almost considered an auto-battle for its time and still fun to play.
The battle it far more simple than SR.

>>638398368
>giving a fuck about ratings
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.

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>Honkai game
Will forever be a BOOTLEG

>>638407182
>giving a fuck about revenue
you must be at least 18 to post here

>>638393176
>Why did it flop?
I didn't like it. Genshin copy paste.

>>638409201
lier

>>638393176
>make it easy
>make it play itself (autocombat)
>content wise way smaller than genshin
i assume they made it for weaker phones as otherwise i dont see the point of its design
they literally went back to honkai impact corridor open world restrictions from genshins open world

>>638410571
Genshin's open world is only so fun once you're on the daily grind. Star Rail's design is much better for a long time game for logging in once a day for an hour max

>>638411389
What exactly is good about having to run arround in fixed corridors? It saves devs time and cost but i dont see any player benefit.

>>638412765
For me Star Rail is a phone game, and I'm not really looking for a big world to run around in. At some point both of them boil down to the same maintenance stuff so it doesn't really matter how big the world is when you just teleport around anyway, and the main thing is that you fight things

Objectively worse gameplay than shit from 1989

>>638395662
Just because 1.1 doesnt have a new planet or main story doesnt mean we wont have shit to do by August.

this game is so fucking dull, who can even enjoy this chink slop? serious question. it's not even fun to run around in the world because everything is on rails and you're churned into the next cutscene you can't skip. degenerate gachaniggers

>>638416769
Have you never played a final fantasy game

>>638416860
not an argument when genshit exists. it's 2023. not 1987

>>638417091
Genshin is basically the same thing, endless linear cutscenes

>>638417376
and an open world you spend 99% of your time in, i don't even remember cutscenes more than I remember collecting shit and farming enemies/bosses for materials.

star rail I'm forced to sit through some bullshit story that nobody cares about. maybe I'm just not far in, but it's not gotten better when genshit was decent immediately.

>>638417675
I think they're both very similar, the difference is just that Genshin has a bigger world as you said. But once you've seen it, you'll just teleport from point to point to do whatever thing you're doing. The farming stuff is the same in both

>>638417675
>open world
Barren sandbox where the only thing you can do is hit hilichurls, repeat the same puzzles for 2 primogems each and look for oculi

>>638417976
>they're both very similar
one has a garbage final fantasy-style RPG overlaid which explains the reduction in open world mobility. genshin is fun to run around in, star rail is not.
>teleport from point to point
yeah both games have this but it's still fun to explore genshit's world. star rail is a massive step back and I have no idea why they spent time developing a shit pile like this.
>>638418005
that's more than you can do in star rail kek

>>638418531
>but it's still fun to explore genshit's world
I've been kinda tired of it lately, as the other guy mentioned it's always just the same stuff. Haven't really touched the couple new areas yet. The scenery is nice though. Star Rail has felt a bit new to me, and it feels more convenient to do the leveling up stuff and all that. Of course if you specifically want an open world game then there's no point playing Star Rail

>>638419087
Well you in for a ride because they didn't add anything new main story wise in 1.1 for another 40 days.

The current main story ends suddenly at a weird spot and I imagine it took a lot of people by surprise when it did.
There's no word on when it will continue and there's not really much to actually do to pass the time.

>>638419267
That's alright, I've been taking it slow since it's just a side thing I play on my phone. I'm perfectly fine with just doing dailies for a while once I've finished the current arc, I have a lot of games to play. Maybe that's why I'm alright with Star Rail, since I'm not really looking for it to be a big main game that I play constantly. Genshin is or was enough of that already

>>638393176
turn based combat

>>638419649
Just hope most of the player are like you.
if they do this for all future content I doubt it make the player stay for long, two weeks is alright but 40 days of just two minutes daily will surely hurt the player base.

>>638393176
>not open world like genshin
>not hack and slash gameplay like genshin

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>>638420037
I play and I'm disappointed at the lack of content but on the other hand I like that I can do daily shit in a few minutes and be done.

>>638400156
It’s a live service game and it made 111m in its first month on IOS. That wasn’t including android or pc sales.

>>638419267
you speak as if every genshit update was full of "content"

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>>638420037
Sure bud.
We got 12 days until 1.1 goes live and after doing a meager event that easily cleared in just less than one hour after waiting 5 days because of the time game we got nothing but daily for 40 days straight.
Here hoping they finally add story content back in 1.2.

>genshin gacha first timers newfags zoomers don’t like a traditional (and objectively better) gacha
good. women, trannies and literal children can stay in the genshin containment zone. maybe star rail will actually improve with time instead of deteriorating like genshit

>>638393176
Its going to make more money than totk though

>>638420165
>but i like that i dont have to play the game
huh?

>>638420365
Their 1.1 literally cleared the Liyue Archon mainquest, you got huge fight between a flying fortress vs sea monster.
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Version/1.1

>>638420662
Daily tasks are not "playing the game" in my view, it's a checklist to get jades. The faster the better.

>>638420530
>time game
time gate*

>>638420710
shit dailies=shit content=shit game

>>638420704
which was a boring snorefest where you face off waves of generic npcs. cocolia fight with the kino dmc 2000s edgefest boomer rock song was way better than mond and liyue combined

>>638420662
Because dailies are not content. Story quests and so on are content and currently people are done with what's available. Dailies and so on are just for farming shit while waiting for next patches. Genshin is far worse with how much of a chore in between shit is because in the end it all boils down to just farming gems and mats.

>>638419267
>>638420365
Fontaine releases in late August. The whole summer of Genshin is dry filler patches. The next patch doesn't even have a single new character for the first time in the games history.

Kafka when?

>>638420656
it's not.

>>638420957
and last characters were all homos and faggots
lmao at genkeks

>>638393176
I hate it too, but did it actually flop? I was under the impression it had 100m downloads or something, I keep getting ads for it

>>638420940
a game that focuses on loglivity and implements means to prolong its life via shit dailies is a bad game
take any mmo and the dailies are bread and butter of progression, if they are bad, the whole game can be gutted, mobile games are not exception. You are saying the bread and butter is shit so the game must be shit

>>638420704
>literally cleared the Liyue Archon mainquest
which was about 3-4 quests of glorified Liyue field tour with Zhongli, a bossfight that got dumbed down 2 days later and shitty cinematic segment during which the only thing you do is hit some random fatui spawns. It wasn't until around 2.0 that the sea monster was an actual fight, and only for the event duration
>>638420957
>Fontaine releases in late August
oh wow, more copy pasted puzzles, more chores, more shitty story and horrible dialogue, more grind for brand new materials, fucking amazing

>>638421182
Old MMO got no daily it just pure grind fest
Unless you counting world boss spawn time as daily/weekly.

>>638421285
Aw man so I missed actually fighting the sea monster? That sounds retarded, why wouldn't it be a permanent addition?

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>>638393176
nice reviews shitskin

>>638420885
I can't think of any good dailies in anything

>>638421285
I mean you asking if Genshin got no content ,I just compare both 1.1 between both games.
How you like them are not part of the argument.
>oh wow, more copy pasted puzzles, more chores, more shitty story and horrible dialogue
You talking as if SR won't got this way too, both made by the same company.
Event in major patch in the future 1.1 we just got a another time limited event instead of actual content story progress.

>>638421182
Not really the case for Star Rail. It is very clearly designed to be like a JRPG where the content is following the story, which right now is unfinished. The side content like calynxes are really just battles. Its so basic that I refuse to call it content.
By comparison Genshin is an open world and the whole point is exploring it. Doing the story is only secondary and you can ignore parts of it.

>>638399059
honestly as a mahjongtard i started playing this game solely because of her and was quite disappointed when i realised how finicky her mechanic is in comparison to most other characters

>>638421395
>why wouldn't it be a permanent addition?
because like most of the "content" in genshit, its event-only stuff, the whole thing was hilariously convoluted for the sake of shilling Shenhe anyway
>OMG! The water serpent is back!?
>Lol no, it his wife, and Ninguang knew all along that she'd be coming
>Wow Ning is so cool and smart!
>Shenhe instantly freezes the serpent because spending 10 minutes around Traveller was enough to make her kokoro go doki doki
>Wow Shenhe is so cool and strong, what a coincidence, her banner is going on right now!
>>638421620
The only content in 1.1 was childe boss fight, anything else you want to call content is pure cope
>You talking as if SR won't got this way too
Oh I know it will, both games are shit

>>638421848
>anything else you want to call content is pure cope
So you saying 1.1. Genshin got content while SR 1.1. got nothing?
Glad we agreed on something.

>>638421648
>and the whole point is exploring it
well congratulations then because exploration in genshin is the biggest waste of time imaginable, the only thing you get out of it is primogems and you can't even explore things freely because everything is locked behind 5+ hours of quests that have to trigger a flag or give you an item that actually lets you progress

>>638421117
It didn't, but Honkai was always more niche.

>>638421848
I do think Ning is cool an wish I could get her but she's buried in the standard banner so my odds are probably less than zero.

>>638421932
>So you saying 1.1. Genshin got content while SR 1.1. got nothing?
Duh, Shithoyo struggles to put out any content, regardless of the game

>>638421342
yeah i guess you could say its a daily but i mean as overall a rewarding experience that gives you some kind of progression because the endgame is all about progression these days and if its shit why even bother
if it would be a singleplayer game with i dont know, some kind of point or rating system where you have to beat a daily challange but said daily were shit for that day i could understand that but saying everything is bad like why are you even playing at this point
i play eso and dailies are things i do anyway but with more rewards which is fun thats why i have hard time understanding the sentence i replied to first sorry
>>638421591
i partially agree, if its shit you do anyway, more rewards are always welcome but if its just some stupid checklist for stuff you hate why even bother, in eso i do dungeon dailies and stay away from crafting because its gay, if you dont have that option it seems just plain bad to a point why even bother you know?
>>638421648
i only played a little of genshin so i have no clue how it is at the end but it had a fair amount of content from what i could tell to a point where dailies would be hundrets of hours away from my current progression which is great because then there can be no shit dailies and adter 100+ hours im burned out anyway and just move on, maybe you reached a point where you burned out? idk

>>638422098
>struggles
I just think they're lazy.
Why would they bother putting in effort when they can cook up a cute character in 5 minutes and have their drooling marks throw money at them?

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>>638421998
And that is why I prefer Honkai more because it cuts to the chase. At the end of the day you are collecting characters because this a gacha. In genshin you have to scale mountains and run through vast fields, just to collect shit that may reward you with gems. In honkai you just do short quests and bam gems.
Also I am playing star rail for the sick cutscenes and music. Genshin has little of that.
https://youtu.be/SWMEoctw9I8

They got 100 millions of revenue in just one month after the game goes live.
Having no story progress content for 40 days straight is purely embarrassing.
we literally got nothing to do for the next 12 days right now and it will continue on for another 40 days.

>>638397841
ONLY $100 million. Wow, blunder of the century. Imagine only making $100 million in a single month.

>>638408075
You said the game is a flop. $100 million is not a flop, but I wouldn't expect an underage dumb fuck like you to understand.

They should have at least completed the 2nd planet before releasing it, they obviously have all hands on deck for fontaine.

>>638422527
Yeah it ended suddenly and just felt deflating rather than making you excited for the next content update.

>>638422350
Music in hsr is some of the most dry, boring shit I have heard, you think they could go all out once they are no longer restrained by generic fantasy setting, yet most of the ost sounds like ambient music. Producer was supposedly "inspired" by trails series but didnt think to have a single track on par with the series
https://youtu.be/s358AQzHMCU

The loudest group of haters being Genshin players is still incredibly weird to me.

>>638422847
hoyocucks just want to fight each other for the privelage of drinking from a toilet bowl covered in shit, come back next year when tardzzz join the circus

>>638393176
Can someone explain to me why anyone would like this game? I tried it out for a few days and I can't think of a single selling point.

>>638422847
>Haters
Why retards always think people who play their game are no allowed to be criticize to their own game?

>>638393176
>Make a 4-niggas-in-a-row style JRPG combat
>But everyone only has basic attack, one gimmick ability and their super attack

It is beyond boring, why didn't they give each character more sauce?

>>638422847
anything affecting or "competing" with their safe space of discord degenerates and streamers will naturally make them squeal
as for hsr the game is fine enough, just not enough to do- the writing is much better than genshins at least

>>638423173
>turn based with cute girls in cel shaded anime style
Already a better selling point than most aaa games in recent years.

>>638423173
Its turn based "JRPG" where I can pick up and drop anytime instead of being forced to have a 100h investment. I still havent finished Persona 5 to this day because the game simply ran out of steam by the time I reached Haru. The first 20 hours were pretty damn rad though and the music is baller.

>>638422847
Why? It makes sense Genshin players resent Mihiyo wasting effort on an inferior game that could've been spent on Genshin

>>638422847
Tendies are mentally ill

>>638423269
Because its, brace yourself, a mobile game! An autobattler with the most generic combat system known to mobile games

>>638423453
I tought the cope was that its a whole separate team doing HSR, did the narrative change recently?

>>638423576
Granblue Fantasy characters all have several different abilities.

>>638423453
Genshitter detected.

>>638422978
>>638422847
Its less that and more on how you need to be familiar with /vg/ politics. See /vg/ is full of gacha ware and everyone competing to be the top gacha general. It used to be FGO but since then Genshin has overtaken it. Nikke came close. As such gacha players are extremely rabid against other games and being made by the same devs is no exception. Genshin players see Star Rail as competition and this is why both generals have shit flinging non stop.

>>638423671
yeah GBF is a few steps above this shit, look at epic7, artery gear, or the newly released outerplane, its all the same shit

Are we going to get a repeat of this when ZZZ drops and HSR players get mad about resources going to it?

>Play said game
>Eagerly waiting for live stream
>See the lack luster of future update
>Discuss and complained about it
>"YOU FUCKING HATERS MUST BE X PEOPLE"
It's so tiring.

>>638423714
Also you have to consider that /vg/ is FILLED with mentally ill schizos, trannies, and all around madmen. Those same people frequently leak over here.

>>638423671
gbf is also a second job while hsr is casual. perfect for a gacha

>>638423563
where do tendies come into it

>>638424234
Pst, you need to fit in to post in this place.
So pretend to be retarded.

>>638423837
I seriously doubt x game is hogging resources from y game anyway. At this Hoyo is a big enough studio to work on multiple games. The money comes from selling a character every three weeks anyway, so I don't know why they'd even want to spend more money on developing the games anyway, since it won't yield any returns. Having multiple games going makes total sense for them, that way they can sell more characters at once

>election tourists resent /vg/ for ignoring their mentally ill bullshit to actually talk about videogames on the board for videogames
lol

>>638424234
stop taking the bait

>going to roll silver wolf
>hear shes nerfed like 10 times in beta
I'm still rolling, but fuck please don't make her useless.

>>638424769
oh its the Dehya cope again, love to see it

If you could rail and impregnate Pompom, I assure you the profits and score would skyrocket.

>>638425018
Pompom is a boy

>>638397743
kek

>>638393176
>>638393241
>Bee AAA phone fag chink. Company
>Release turn based game
>Release a single corridor
>Milk people
Fuck turned based games

>>638393176
No enough pits and hags

>>638424769
>caring about combat performance
Bro your Herta?

>>638426171
Nah

>>638423176
Right, because all the rabid "games a flop" "genshins sloppy seconds" "dead game" is coming from it's own players. Fuck off, retard.

>>638430436
Retards exist everywhere, but does that mean I'm not allowed to say bad things game that I even play every fucking day?
Not even once I said anything that you mention in your post.

>>638428548
Sexo

The Dagasi set is out lads

>>638428548
Levelled to 20 for the warp ticket then BETRAYED and TRAPPED in the character menu to never be used.

>>638423668
It is. Mihoyo has multiple in house teams. They have like 3000 employees. You don’t think all of them are working on the same things right?

>>638424769
Her numbers got nerfed a bit but she is still far and away the best support. She has defense shred and element resist shred along with slowly enemy speed / atk. Also CN add element weaknesses to enemies. If you see anyone saying she’s bad, then they are a total moron.

>>638434790
Hebe wolf is sexy as shit

Level 70 is fucking harsh with trace cost. Leveling Seele and Bronya nuked my 1 million credits and I still haven’t maxed their skills yet.

>>638436197
Don't level traces after the level 60 threshold
Farming artifacts for main stats and 1-2 substats is better at that point

>>638437213
Relics aren’t that cheap either.

>>638437213
Is it better to level them to 70 or farm relics

>>638437847
a level 15 relic can give a 43% attack up or like 30% damage increase for a specific element, traces tend to be a 10% (of stat) increase per level + extra ability effects so I'd focus on relics and only take utility traces.

then again my only other gacha is limbus which has no relics so i could be full of shit

>>638397743
Its hilarious that this took more time to make than just shit editing the original anyways lmao.

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>>638393176
>Why did it flop?
Uhhhhh sisters?!??

>>638438291
I mean should I focus on xp books to take my team from 60-70 or in farming relics?

>>638393176
I am playing it but I'm gonna be real with you, this is a game I can easily see myself dropping. Asides from the marketing and flirting with hags, there's nothing really impressing me about this so far.

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>>638393176
>Turn based

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>>638422847
It's quite the opposite actually. In every single Genshin thread there's always some desperate Honkai fan claiming the usual headcanon that its game it's the real passion project, before with 3rd, and now with Star Rail. I mean, i get that it's the only way to give the game some attention (especially in 3rd case), but it's still obnoxious.

>>638443436
Noticed this too.

>>638443436
nice leis

Even genshin has been dying off. Look at most of the content creators.

People still watch plenty of Counterstrike but don't play, and that proves demand.

If people aren't watching genshin content, the masses are moving on. Finally, nature is healing.

>>638393176
they didn't do right by honkai fans and we ditched the series

>>638447414
mihoyo themselves proved how pathetic the engagement is with content, they had to start promising that 10 random people will get 100 primogems for watching the official stream to get any sort of traction. star rail had to do twitch drops for the same

>>638447790
Yeah sure, and I'm Albert Einstein

>>638393176
>makes 100M in a single month
Did it?

>>638449372
you can see the numbers genshin gets on twitch no? You can also scroll through their twitter and see they started these bullshit giveaways 2-3 patches ago

>>638449602
>using twitch as a metric to determine if a game is dying
I knew you were braindead but not that much

>>638450054
both me and the other guy were talking about engagement with genshin content though, you got some reading issues?

>>638450447
>Even genshin has been dying off
You got amnesia too?

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>>638393176
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>chinese shit

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>>638451349
gold standard now

>>638393176
No Playstation version doesn't help

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>>638452765
Going to get announced in about 7 hours

>>638454868
What