>manages to combine D2's gritty atmosphere with D3's superior gameplay, itemization, and storytelling>tfw when it's the best game in the series already
shill thread. jannies do your job for free now. this site is for fans of vidya not corporate mouth pieces.
>>631341847>fans of D4 not allowed
>>631341635>D3's superior gameplay, itemization, and storytelling>itemization, and storytelling
>battlepasses>premium battlepasses>seasons>70$no thanks
>>631341635>manages to combine D2's gritty atmosphere with D3's superior gameplay, itemization, and storytellingrofl
>>631342803tell me you are poor without telling me you are poor
>>631343032imagine giving money to a company that hates you
>>631341635Yea I played a bit further and it’s fun.I kneel. Turns out the barbarian sucks balls. The sorcerer is based af.
Diablo 1 and 2 or gtfo
>>631343165you think cashiers and hookers love you?
>>631343457only the ones that make eye contact with me and smile
*slop* *slop* *slop* i don't like the taste*slop* *slop* *slop* but consuming fills my belly nicely*slop* *slop* *slop*
>>631343032>implying a rich person who isn't a streamer is gonna waste time and money on a hack n slash
>>631341847>Don't talk about video games on video game boardGo back then KYS
>>631341635Ignoring the hype, this game is a very generous 6/10 at best. Have the standards of gaming really degenerated to this point that people consider this amazing? I've seen a lot of positive feedback about it outside of 4chan and I'm at a loss. I think it's real boring.
What are the best ARPG to play that aren't Diablo?People say Grim Dawn, but it looks dead / filled with expensive DLC expansions.
Anyone done the expansion boss, Ashava or whatever? I've got a HC sorc almost level 25 and I'm not wanting to get bodied.
>>631348157>People say Grim Dawn, but it looks deadEh, It's a single player game that's old at this point. Is it really that expensive? I think I bought everything for 15 dollars on discount. You could wait for a sale. It's good fun.
>>631348336It's on sale atm, but it's 30 dollars
>>631348157its a single player game, you can buy all the expansions and base game for like 20 bucks right now on steam
>>631347649>Have the standards of gaming really degenerated to this point that people consider this amazinglolpeople are ok with mtx in full price games.of course gaming is full of shitters with no standards now.
make a Holy Knight Paladin class so I can make one with a white male and I'll buy your game.pass it along shills
>>631341635>no monk>no paladinNo buy
>>631348578>>631348759Astonishing choice to not have at least one holy character desu
>>631341847Sorry your discord raids keep failing~
>>631342342You have to be retarded to be a fan of a game that has not reached open beta yet. We also don't know jack shit about itemization, which makes or breaks a diablo game. If uniques and sets are going to be just rare items with bigger numbers and a different color, like they did on d3, the game is going to be dead within the first season.
>>631348157Grim Dawn is trash.Path of Exile is the best ARPG after Diablo 2.
>>631349110>Path of ExileSorry, I don't play F2P games.
>>631349139everything that's bad about F2P is in D4 though...
>>631348759Those will come with paid DLCs, duh. $50 each + premium battle pass + battle pass + tip + tax. $10 for being able to play them 2 days earlier too.
>here are your dungeons bro
No really, I'm just annoyed at the whole advertisement. It's like Blizzard hasn't learned yet that the majority of people playing this series are white male teens from the early 2000's. Now probably wageslaves and salarymen trying to have some fun with limited time. The whole advertisement for this game was once again a complete joke except for the first trailer / gameplay. Hope they don't come with more little "politics" to ruin the last blizzard franchise. At least they put a damn fine white demon-woman as the main character.
>>631348968a white paladin would be racist
>>631349346that's really bad lmao
>>631349578No one tell him about the crusader
>>631349572>At least they put a damn fine white demon-woman as the main character.Guess you haven't seen her "daughter" yet?
>>631349756No, how is she?Oh for fuck's sake, dont tell me..
>>631349842There was a Big Black Demon involved at some point it seems.
>>631341635>short bait>same picIt's a paid post.
>>631349756lmaodoes it have frizzy hair or cornrows?
>>631349572This brings me back. How is 'wow addict'=guy doing nowadays?https://youtu.be/K8hfK3RQs2g
>>631341635>D3>superior gameplay, itemization and storytellinganother retarded take
>>631341635>D3's superior gameplay, itemization, and storytellingthe hell you smokin
>>631341635D4 is D3 but with less content, every single level looks like some level out of D3, but it has snow.It's shit.But remember to buy the battlebass goy.
>>631349231I literally asked for games that aren't Diablo you obsessed retarded faggot
>>631345298>woke with awful writing Not my games
>>631343032I am not poor but that doesn't mean I just throw money at shit that I think is a bad purchase. You clearly are poor and have the poor man's "I'd buy everything if I were rich" naive attitude. Let me know when McDonald's finally gives you that promotion buddy :)
How is it?
>>631348968They're obviously going all in on the holy = bad storyline this time, no pally/crusader/cleric/fucking anything
>>631350928Solid 6/10 game. Only get it if it's on a sale, or pirate.
>>631350842The same point can be made about every game though you narrow sighted fucking kike.
>>631350816You know this is just the beta, right?
>>631350928it's pretty mindlesslooks very "warhammery" tho if you are into that
>>631350928I liked it, but near the end it go really monotonous.
>>631348157Grim Dawn starts slow but is very fun and has a nice ambiance/world. PoE was good but they genuinely think letting players have fun will make them stop playing so they nerf anything that gets popular and tune the game around streamers who play 60 hours a week, so you HAVE to follow a guide and farm for trade currency to buy the BiS item for the 2-4 usable builds every season. The actual game is also locked behind a 10 act story that's not very good.
>>631350816>D4 is D3 but with less contentD4 is literally D3 but with MORE content. There's 10x more content in D4 compared to D3. What the fuck are you on about?
>>631351046Do you honestly think all these fucking changes are going to be fixed within a 3 month span looking a the modern game dev trends? Are you really this stupid, nigger?
>>631350928It's fun for one playthrough, but if you are the type of ARPG fan that builds a sorc just to item grind for other characters for hours to minmax it's not for you
So, how comes that dev diary looks absolutely different from what was shown before?Why did they tweak the colour palette?
>>631350939That's crazy, they'll have one of those classes in an expansion. Anyway there are fallen Templar, crusaders and paladin.
>>631341635Why do they try to make Diablo into something that's not fucking Diablo.It's an mmo imitating Diablo, PoE with $70 pricetag
>>631341635My biggest issue is tiny inventory for no reasonand retarded choice to mark items for destroy but not lock. Complete mess Otherwise characters are also stupid>head of church>black woman in dirty potato bag instead of real clothes>no shoes>snow regionThey couldnt make it dumber if they tried
>>631351338It was the console version, which needs to support 4-player couch co-op AND be able to run on shit like PS4 and Switch.
>>631351440I somewhat doubt that's really the reason. I've seen comparison of console versions and they look almost the same between each platform.Kinda doubt they'd make an entirely different 'grim' looking pc build
>>631351438californians have no idea what snow is cmon bro
>>631351338I have no idea. It made me shit myself pre-beta.
can i increase the fovcan i make it WASD controls
>>631348546Chaosbane slayer edition is like $7 on g2a, cheap enough to give it a try
You put your faith in a company ran by Californians. What more do you expect? It will be shit and filled with sjw woke shit. The game will fail like all Blizzard games do because they are made by Californians.
>>631352001>can i increase the fovOnly during world bosses.>can i make it WASD controlsNo, but you can use a controller.
>>631351438The Zakarum religion started in the “not Africa” part of Sanctuary, thats why a lot of the priests/paladins/whatever else are black and were in older games
>>631352075The game really needs to be zoomed out more. The default FoV is so shit
>>631352064>The game will fail like all Blizzard games doBlizzard games always sell like 5-10 million copies and make them +500 million dollars. What are you talking about?
>>631352152Yes but I don't like black people so why should I look at them when I am playing a video game?
>>631352206People have no money this time around due to inflation. It will flop.
>>631352064It'll sell 30 million in the first year. 95% of people will play for a week and quit because it's a mediocre, boring pile of crap
>>631352263This is cope
>>631352152pooiont is black people are even less tolerant to cold, she would need even not run arround naked. And its stupid that the leader is worse than the guards. It literally looks like a potato sack what shes wearing.
>>631352154it's partially a balance thing so i get it.WASD controls would make me actually use kbm for this. i used controller all beta and there are some disadvantages. certain skills id like to aim rather than analog direction + soft lock algorithm doing the work for me. to the games credit an incorrect softlock target was extremely rare on controller.
>>631352418>she would need even not run around naked even more clothes not run around naked
>Gritty atmosphereOk, cool, but this is not really relevant. It's just set dressing.>D3's gameplay, itemization, and storytellingYou mean the game everyone stopped playing because it fucking sucked huge dick, and the entire long-term play was just about collecting the same items from the same equipment set to boost your classe's main skill 10,000% so you could then do the same time-trials for the same random zones every season? Well shit, I guess D4 is going to die in a week too.>No crafting (no, guys, rolling random pre-set items, or moving one "legendary" mod to another item isn't crafting)>No build advancement or variation>No multiple skill choices per-class>No multiple build/play options per-skill>Static MMO "open world" map>"Random" dungeons all have the same layout.>Still fucking using gold as a game currency for some fucking reason>No player trading>Most items untradeable>The game is so fucking easy that enemies just drop health pickups mid-fight like a fucking mobile game.It's like a meme made by people who don't know what video games are.
the combat isn't nearly as good as lost ark
>>631341635>>631348578>>631348759The 6th and 7th classes will be a crypto-Islamic Paladin called a "Djinnter", i.e. a playable Act 2 mercenary, and one of Lilith's drag demon crotch spawns who gained autonomy and revolted, aptly called a "Spawn".
>>631341635It's funny to me that blizzard has the money and manpower to shill their shit on this board but not to actually produce good games.
>D3's superior gameplay, itemization, and storytelling
>>631352567>the game everyone stopped playinglollmao eventhis nigga still living in 2014
>>631341635Probably because it's a beta but I'm not feeling the skill system and the loototherwise, it looks pretty good. best-looking ARPG but that's not what makes a good ARPG.
>>631348546>Van HelsingMeh, first one was good but 2 and 3 are meh>ChaosbanePretty repetitive and the skill system sucks>Victor VranNot so good, Motörhead DLC was good tho>Torchlight III Complete and utter rape of the franchise. >Grim DawnGreat game, Expansions are also very niceAny other games? Currently playing Last Epoch, Wolcen, Chaosbane(trying to get in again) and Vikings
>>631352584blizzard core approach was always dumb down gameplay so noobs can play it without getting filtered.la koreans is
>>631352832Also, the cutscenes are well-directed and the writing seems competent for a modern blizzard game. but then again, this doesn't make a good ARPG
>>631341635Lost Ark 2.0
>>631342342If the game was released and you had already beaten it, then it would be reasonable to call yourself a fan. Of course, I say "You" in the general sense, not (You) specifically, because you're nothing but a worthless shill. You don't play games, you only get paid to market them.
>>631352789Yeah D3 leaderboards are literally riddled with bots.It always has at best 20k people playing it
>>631352972There is no such a thing as a good ARPG because the whole genre is just lootslop cookie clicker
>>631352567Your entire post is literally just you being a retarded contrarian who read someone else's objectively wrong opinion, and now you are parroting it to attempt to fit in. You literally have no clue about anything.
I'm gonna replay Diablo 3 after Diablo 4 beta. First, a playthrough of Chaosbane.All 3 are great games.
haven't been following the threads, what is it that's living in /v/'s head rent free with this one
>>631351179>D4 is literally D3 but with MORE content. There's 10x more content in D4 compared to D3. What the fuck are you on about?What? No there isn't lol. Name something then that isn't a copy of another thing.Like a "dungeon" that might as well be any other dungeon.D3 has WAY more actual things you want to do, other than busy work MMO shit that D4 put in.
>>631353106>lootslop cookie clickeryeah but some "lootslop cookie clicker" are better than other lootslop cookie clicker
>>631353132im sorry for insulting your mobile game
>>631353190Yes but a piece of shit is still just a piece of shit. Even if you cover it with sauce.
>i totally don't follow the threads, so that's why I post 3rd time pretending to be a new person
>>631352832>best-looking ARPG but that's not what makes a good ARPG.I watched a good chunk of streams playing it. Yes, the environments look pretty, they clearly put a lot of effort into the background graphics. But that's like people showing off still images of matte paintings or backgrounds from an animated movie. Yes, they're nice and they look pretty and I'm sure someone put a ton of time and skill into making them, but they're literally the least important part of the whole, because if the animation or story or art that goes on top of them is boring, ugly, stupid, or nonsense then it doesn't matter how nice the backgrounds look. And unfortunately, the gameplay just looks flat garbage. It's a bunch of people who never played Diablo 2 outside of the design document given to them, and are trying to recreate something that looks like it on the surface but plays like a 2020s mobile game, because the people making it have no concept of what made the original games fun, or where their limitations were and what should have been updated for modern players.This game 100% is not for people looking for an advancement in the ARPG genre. It's for people who probably played a little bit of D2 Remaster, or a large amount of D3, and just want exactly the same but with the option to pay more money to Blizzard to get more stuff.
How is Marytr?
>>631353132Anon, you literally play a character on 4chan where you pretend to worship Blizzard. I don't take the things you say seriously, so I don't know why you continue to say them.
>>631341635The skill tree being reminiscent of D2 is what sold it for me. In D3 if two characters of the same class met in the end game the only difference was gear, everything played exactly the same. Unfortunately the beta was an absolute clusterfuck of server issues, but that was fully expected. I also got to play without pre-ordering the game, so I lost nothing but time.
>>631353372Explain how diablo 2 gameplay is good.
>>631353614>everyone will go the meta setup anyway so everyone will have the same tree
>>631348157>it looks deadDude fuck off
>>631353374Janky but fun, for a while. It gets repetitive very fast because your skills are tied completely to your weapon so, more or less, the way your build plays at lvl 10 will be the same way it plays at lvl 90, only with bigger numbers.
>>631343268Barb can be really good if you chain certain abilities. Lunging Strike can be used as a smaller dodge if you target a mob that's at midrange because he'll lunge towards them, I used it to avoid AOEs a lot and keep my regular dodge ready for when I really needed it. Hammer of the Ancients and Upheaval are great for crowds, especially Upheaval.All that being said, the rogue was fucking fun as shit
>>631353705Not him but addictive loot progression and hand crafted dungeon environments that feel truly unique. Compare the den of evil with the durance of hate. They feel so radically different compared to any two dungeons from Diablo 4.
>>631353705click click numbers go upbrain get numbpain go away
>>631341635I think the games sound and music needs more polishing.>Forgettable music>I can't even remember a single sound the monsters made>Only played rogue but weapon noises were fairly forgettable tooMeanwhile I still remember noises of monsters from d1 and d2, still remember the sound of thwacking things with a wooden club in d2. Can still remember music from d1 and d2Also I remember the actually tree design of the skill tree from the previews, what happened to that? Rogue skill tree is ugly as fuck, and it goes down instead of up.Game is fun enough, but I just dont get how it's not better when they already have the framework of d1 and d2 to work with.
>>631349346Notice how none of the Blizzardtroons pretending this game is good responded to this
>>631354120The thread is filled with people asking how Diablo 2 is good which tells me that none of them have a fucking clue what made it so influential.
>>631353705As far as what? Diablo 2 was great for the time, but I don't think it's particularly great these days outside of people who just really, really enjoy the slow, methodical, and sometimes clunky ARPG movement/combat. It has its' points, but I think D2 fans are the same people who prefer Grim Dawn.I have no problem with D2, what I have a problem with is someone essentially making a game just as slow, just as cumbersome, and based on all of the exact same old-ass design principals, but refusing to expand on any of them. We already have PoE and we've seen what PoE can push ARPG gameplay to be. Do you have to be as fast, or have as many enemies on-screen as PoE? No, of course not. But when you're building a new, better, modern game, it should at least start from a baseline where the crafting, freedom, character customization, build diversity, and amount of things to do and engage with that PoE has set. Otherwise, if your goal of making a "modern" game is just to go reset back to D2 and then just add in all of the monetization features from D3/Immortal, and none of the actual gameplay advancements the genre has seen, well then why the fuck would anyone be buying that (other than brainless, thoughtless normalfags and Blizzard simps)?
The main complaint from long time diablo fans that I have been seeing is "This doesn't feel like a Diablo game, It's like I'm just playing WoW doing daily quests, this is shit">T-THEY WENT BACK TO THEIR ROOTS>THEY PUT THE WAR BACK IN WARC.. oh wait.. uhh THEY PUT THE DARKNESS BACK IN DIABLOOOO OoOoOoOo!This tired song and dance...
>>631354046Idk if this me having a Mandela Effect, but I'm pretty sure all dungeons and maps in D2 have an element of procedural generation to them. I get this feeling, because I played through Act 1 of D2 a lot of times and I don't remember the Den of Evil having the same layout every time.
>>631354230They're zooms who never actually played Diablo 2. They probably think 3 was amazing.
>>631353186>D3 has WAY more actual things you want to doD3 literally has nothing to do, you fucking retard. You level, then get the seasonal gift for 5 minutes, then farm a few rounds of bounties which takes 1 hour total, then farm rifts for keys so you can spam GRs. That's it.Meanwhile in D4 you have campaign, tons of side quests, world events, local events, world bosses, cellars, normal dungeons, nightmare dungeons, dungeon events, renown, strongholds, Helltides, target farming for uniques, PvP zones with Seeds of Hatred + Red Dust farming, Whispers of the Dead, mount trophies, and all of this is not even counting the seasonal shit that they are going to do every 3 months.You're just a moron, get the fuck out of here.
>>631354046>hand crafted dungeon environments that feel truly unique. Compare the den of evil with the durance of hate. They feel so radically different compared to any two dungeons from Diablo 4.Couldn't agree more. Everything is cookie cutter in D4 and for people saying it's just act 1, so 15-20 Dungeons aren't enough of a sample size? They were ALL the same, and on top of that, there's level scaling in effect so the mobs always take the same damage and time to kill.
My only question is: Is it classic Blizzard quality, or NuBlizzard quality?
>>631354375They do. Even dungeons in D1 were procedurally generated up to a point.
>>631341635>D3's superior gameplay, itemization, and storytelling
>>631354456>Meanwhile in D4 you have campaign, tons of side quests, world events, local events, world bosses, cellars, normal dungeons, nightmare dungeons, dungeon events, renown, strongholds, Helltides, target farming for uniques, PvP zones with Seeds of Hatred + Red Dust farming, Whispers of the Dead, mount trophies,Oh, you have all these things, do you? You have them to play, and they exist somewhere outside of a design doc or a marketing interview?
>>631354456>Meanwhile in D4 you have [Wowshit waste of time busy work pretending to be meaningful content]YAWWWWWWWWWWWWNTroon shill
I like it. It has some problems sure, but its worlds better then launch D3 for sure. Main complaints are UI, character creator is shit, and the maps are pretty basic.
>>631354602>You have them to play, and they exist somewhere outside of a design doc or a marketing interview?Yes, they are literally all in the game at launch, you fucking mongoloid. This just goes to show how fucking braindead you are. You are hating on a game that you literally have zero clue about.
Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 were both great and fun games, simple as, and Diablo 4 will probably be fun cope and seethe I enjoy video games
>>631354513It's weirdly in between. Certainly better than d3
>>631352584This guy sums it up pretty well with actual examples.There is some hidden global cooldown on specific abilities that makes the game feel clunky and unresponsive.https://youtu.be/eXi3slqni5o?t=228
>>631354678>BRO BRO PLEASE BELIEVE ME BRO THEY'RE TOTALLY THERE BRO JUST TRUST IN BLIZZARD BROTroon
For a $90 game, it's trash.
>>631354375Some do but there are a lot of areas like the durance of hate level 3, travincal, chaos sanctuary, etc that never change.
if seasons yes then me not buysimple asI want to buy a game and not game as a service
>>631354706So might be worth checking out on sale?
>>631354724>no retortGood to see you accept your defeat. There's tons of valid things you can complain about with D4, but a lack of content is definitely not one of them.
>>631354851>no retortWhat retort? You made a claim without evidence, I'm dismissing it without evidence, you fat fucking loser.
>>631354456>in D4 you have campaignIn D3>tons of side questsMMO fetch quests, also in D3 though>world eventsIt's sharded so you might as well be solo, bosses are also in D3>local eventsLiterally taken from D3>world bossesWell, bosses, like D3>cellarsLiterally in and taken from D3>normal dungeons, nightmare dungeons, dungeon eventsThese are all the same>renownMMO shit>strongholdsEh? It's just a spot you kill monsters atAnyway, D3 isn't great, but if you want to pretend that D4 is different you need so name something different, which you haven't
>>631341635>D3's superior itemizationMade me reply
>>631354630character creator is great - what other arpg has something like this with your character in-game cutscenes? I can think of baldurs gate 3 and dragon age inquisition (but those aren't even arpgs)
>>631354513It's not even NuBlizzard, which is a term we sort of started using around WoW Cataclysm. This is more like NuNuBlizzard.D4 is a game that is made by a lot of people, but not a lot of people who are making a game. Rather it's made by a lot of people (diversity hires and normies) working under middle managers all working on one little aspect of a project they don't know about or care about, and then all of those aspects are being brought together in a whole that is likely not really overseen or tested by anyone. There is no central designer or person or team guiding the actual whole game's direction. There is no "Classic Blizzard", those teams and that company hasn't existed for more than a decade.
>>631341635>D3's itemizationnot even, it's a sort of mix of the two which is even better>+ to X skill>+ to all type of skill>direct elemental resistancesremember when trannies were hung up on "muh ATTACK/DEFENSE are the only stats!"? /v/ is always wrong.
Story feels fucking disjointed, like I don't know if this is supposed to be the beginning or middle. Feels like an MMO now
I remember looking into last epoch a while ago as I was looking for a new diablolike to play and everyone was saying it was medioce to bad.Now I hear people saying it's good,what changed?
>>631354997>retarded word saladAbout all I can expect from a brainrotted doomer boomer. Geriatric old fuck. Fuck I hate old people
>>631341635>beta testing>you have to pay for ittop kek
>>631354905>I'm dismissing it without evidenceI have literally seen it in closed beta, but go ahead and keep being a schizo retard. Like I said before, there's so many things you can complain about with D4 are that 100% valid, but a lack of content is definitely not one.
>>631351179>hasn't seen shit>I swear it's there !!!!
>>631354806I loved d1 and d2. Bought d3 CE and got to experience the launch of that game. Even though the expansion did a lot of good for it, it still feels so...idk I'll use the fun word, but soulless. D4 absolutely feels like a step in the right direction, and it's not doing retarded shit like D3 did such as hitting a piece of the environment will do more damage to your weapon than the highest gold said object will drop so destroying things is a net negative. It still does silly shit like equipping two swords lets you throw unlimited daggers, but whatever, I'm just a grog who doesn't mind keeping up with arrows/knives in the inventory. I think the UI is kind of fucking ugly, but you can tell it's certainly made with console kiddies in mind.Idk, so far it's a solid 7/10 ARPG. If you like those kinds of games you'll prolly enjoy pouring some hours into it.
>>631355113>I have literally seen it in closed betaSource: It was revealed to me in a dream.
>>631355113>Bro LITERALLY I have LITERALLY seen it in the LITERAL closed beta bro, like LITERALLY just TRUST me, bro LITERALLY>still no evidenceYou're starting to bore me. Step it up, pup.
>>631354928>I am being a dishonest contrarian retard: the postI am not even going to engage with you other than this post, because you're a dishonest weasel cocksucker and your parents must be deeply ashamed of having you as a son.
>>631355078they're filling in some backstory and what sanctuary was supposed to be for and why the relationship between Lilith and inarius has caused so much bullshit.
>>631341635I love D2 NecromancerIn any game like this that ive played theres no real summoner class, including mobas, sylvanas on HOTS was like that but they reworked her and took out the skill that did thatI just want to have fun summoning an army of dumb minions and D2 Necromancer is incredible for that, the best Necromancer/Summoner that ive seenI havent played too much of D3 but i remember not liking the Necromancer skills at all in that game. I just want to know if D4 Necromancer is like D2, i would be so happyor even if the other similar ARPGs have a fun summoning class like Grim Dawn or Torchlight or else because i never played any of themD2R is the perfect game i dont think blizzard can surpass that game but i have hope
>>631355090It is good, but janky. Animations are stiff as fuck, graphics kind of suck, but its fun to play.It also recently got multiplayer
>>631343032it's not about being rich or poor it's about being scammed. If someone wanted to sell you a pile of shit for $70 would you say "hehe you must be poor if you don't want to buy it!".
>>631355219>>631355240>retards who didn't play the beta think they know more than someone who played the betaIs it autism?
>>631355078>Feels like an MMO nowYeah, even if they made the dungeons feel more meaningful and fixed the loot (they won't), the MMO crap kills the game for me. Diablo is supposed to be a single player dungeon crawl with optional multiplayer. Even Diablo 3's always online crap let you create a single player game.
super funny to me that /v/ brainwashed themselves into pre ordering the deluxe hogwarts legacy game while simultaneously being so butt blasted about blizzard they shitpost about d4 constantly
>>631341847Shill thread > coom thread > /pol/ thread
>>631341635Based take.Started on D2 and it is my favourite but people can't look beyond its shadow. D3 was also a great addition but it had its flaws. Over time it became a great game, fixing a lot of wrongs but ofc no one will accept that.D4 literally is a Nephalem of the series and it shows. The beta was an excellent showcase of that. People crying about early access and MTX for literal cosmetics are boomers who can't ignore the literal optional thing.Also if you're taking time out of your day to go out of your way to shitpost your hate for game you supposidly don't care about (rent free kek) you need to go touch grass.
>>631355314sounds like poorfag cope
>>631355219>>631355240You "people" are pathetic losers. Blizzard is living so rent free in your heads that you have turned schizophrenic and you're fully convinced that they have talked about systems that won't be in the game at launch, despite them being in the closed beta and despite Blizzard having talked about them in interviews.
>>631355260>if D4 Necromancer is like D2, i would be so happythat's what it's looking like.also last Epoch has a similar feel. Can either have an army of bone boys/archers/mages or a smaller group of beefier bone daddies.But D4 also looks closer to D2's Necro than D3's
>>631354521>>631354762So why does that faggot claim dungeons are handcrafted when they clearly use procedural generation?
>>631355426>People crying about early access and MTX for literal cosmetics are boomers who can't ignore the literal optional thing.
>>631355453>STILL no evidence other than "BRO I TOTALLY SAW IT PLEASE BELIEVE ME"Are you going to stop being boring?
Is it worth trying Lost Ark if I never played it past level 15? D4 just reminds me of LA and I feel like it'll just be better to play the OG than the Chinese Ripoff known as D4.Feels like the "only level to 25" beta is just them hiding all the hideous grind shit.
>>631341635>tfw when it's the best game in the series alreadyyeah it's very goodt. knower
>>631348546>Victor VranComfy arpg, don't buy dlc they spam an enemy with frontal immunity that spins on a dime
>>631355563>Are you going to stop being boring?Right after you stop being a pathetic loser that's a gigantic disappointment to his parents in every way they could ever imagine.
>>631355515Because a lot of them are, you dumb ass. Play the fucking game. Even the ones that have generation are mostly just arranged in a different way. The Kurast bazaar will always have the two temples and sewer.
>>631355572I didn't get very far but I want to say "Hideous grind shit" describes LA very very well.
>>631355714>seething ad hominem in place of evidence for his claimsGood to see you finally admit that you're just talking out of your ass and can't actually prove anything you're saying.
>>631355572Lost Ark is over and done at this point. 70% of the playerbase are bots and the other 30% are retards who participate in pay2win.
>>631355758Yeah but it doesn't try to hide it? I guess?
>>631355807Just wait for the release and you'll see that I was right. In fact, please scroll up and screenshot my post and keep it on your desktop for the release date of D4, so you can feel really fucking stupid when you realize that I was 100% correct.
>>631355807These are the same people that said Blizzard will not sell D4 expansions to be pro-consumer
>>631355246I kind of already know that stuff what I want to know is since when did Inarius have a church and since when was he chillin on Sanctuary bossing people around? I don't remember that shit in Diablo 2 or 3 so did I miss a book or a comic or something?
sorry, busy enjoying korean cunny
>>631355974>J-JUST WAIT BRO Y-YOU'LL SEEI accept your concession.
>>631355856I mean it seems like 90% of gaming is getting to be grind shit nowadays. I would say just play something else but there's a pretty solid chance that "something else" also has a battle pass and time windows.
>>631355985>These are the same people that said Blizzard will not sell D4 expansions to be pro-consumerLiterally no one has ever claimed that. Everyone knows that the first expansion will include the first holy archetype. Why exactly are you retarded haters always being dishonest and making up shit?
>>631356080>H-HATER!Lmao, pathetic drone shill troony.
>>631356035I removed that when they started giving people Steam bans.
>>631356164>make up lie>get called out for it>WOOOOOOOOW THESE SHILLS HERE ARE CRAAAAAZY"People" like you are the reason why /v/ is so fucking garbage these days.
There's so much legendary loot around that you start to wonder how the regular NPCs couldn't handle the situation by themselves
D4 is literally Lost Ark but with a diablo immortal skin
>>631356269>L-LE TWITTER CALL-OUTLmfao. Fucking shill bitch
>>631356269the shill is backtracking
>>631353080>>631349030>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
>>631349030>>631353080By this logic, making any thread at all about an unreleased game makes someone a shill. You're pathetic.
>>631356003They retconned a lot a shit post D2. The entire Lilith/Inarius narrative is pure D3+ crap, along with the nephalem nonsense etc.The original backstory of Inarius from the D1 game guide, was he was tricked and betrayed by Mephisto, then trapped to basically be used as a bargaining chip, anything beyond that is nublizz fanfiction.
>>631351819anon, don't give them excuses. They no just fine, they're just retarded
>>631355807>>631355563>>631355240>>631354724>>631354602What the fuck are these posts? What kind of retarded cope is this?Everything the one anon said is true, all of that stuff is in the game not only has blizz talked about them, shown a lot of it off in videos, but almost all of it is in the fucking beta you can play right now. It's literally right there in your face, 100% factual evidence you can see and experience yourself.Yet for some reason this retard is just pretending none of it is real and it's all made up? This schizo needs pills IMMEDIATELY.
Sorc is gonna be OP af
>>631348157>but it looks dead / filled with expensive DLC expansionsits literally the highest value arpg
>>631356428making a thread saying "this is the best game ever made" about an unreleased game is shilling, yes
>>631356417I don't know who the fuck wrote that, but it has been known since day 1 that there would be expansions. The part about buying access to new areas is also completely false, so I'm guessing it's a false flag post. Did you write that yourself or something?
>>631356417Now he'll go with the "N-NOT MY POST" cope.
>>631356575Didn't see these in closed beta endgame leaks
>>631356575D4 has mindbroken them and it isn't even out yet. It's unreal
>>631356575>so mad he had to respond pretending to be someone else>STILL has no evidence
>>631356789I didn't make that post and I'm still not mad.
>>631356602Nobody in this thread has said that, you fat fucking ugly piece of shit.
>>631341635played though grim dawn and all expansions on veteran/normal, thought i had a decent build until elite first miniboss fucked me up. stopped there. also hate how obscure some quests are in that unless you pay really close attention.
>>631356846>did EXACTLY this >>631356640>in TWO posts LMAO
If you're going to make leveling gear worthless stop giving your games a high level cap.
>>631356886LITERALLY THE OP
>>631354928>tons of side quests>MMO fetch quests, also in D3 thoughD3 doesn't have MMO fetch side quests.>world events>It's sharded so you might as well be solo, bosses are also in D3D3 doesn't have world events.>world bosses>Well, bosses, like D3D3 doesn't have world bosses.>normal dungeons, nightmare dungeons, dungeon events>These are all the sameNo they're not, just like dungeons and rifts are different in D3.>renown>MMO shitLiterally no argument, i'll just take that as a concession. >strongholds>Eh? It's just a spot you kill monsters atLiterally no argument, i'll just take that as a concession. Weird shitpost full of wrong information. Would be nice if you would fuck off now.
>>631352669Sounds retarded.French/English/Spanish-inspired paladin is one of the most popular, if not *the* most popular fantasy class aesthetic. People talk up wizards and warriors, but in every game with a paladin available, even if the class is shit people play it for the aesthetic alone.Imagine giving up on that huge, intrinsic appeal in a game about literally killing demons, just to own the chuds. Blizzard has been so fucking stupid this last decade, man. I knew when they prioritized monks and even that retarded fucking witch doctor guy in D3, that something was seriously wrong with their internal culture. It's hard to think of a class aesthetic that's LESS popular than the fucking monk. They're not cool. I don't know why they push it so hard. And the witch doctor is just bizarre.There's so much free money just laying on the ground for them to bend over and shovel into their embrace here, and they choose not to do it for no discernable reason. It's inexplicable.
>>631357053>best game in the seriesShow me where it says "best game ever made", you illiterate third-world streetshitter.
>>631357053>best game ever made>best game in the seriesntg but these things are not the same. are you getting so emotional you can no longer read words and just make them up in your head? weird
>>631357164>>631357197JUST FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES ALREADY I FUCKING HATE YOU RETARDED SHILLS
>>631357256>JUST FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES ALREADY I FUCKING HATE YOU RETARDED SHILLSyou need a rest m8
>>631354928NIGGER! KIKE! CHINK! BEANER!>>631355242>>631357095based
You faggot shills tricked me into playing Diablo 3 at launch a decade ago you aren’t getting me again dammit. Diablo 3 gameplay was garbage, are they pulling opposing drop tables again too? Fuck modern blizzard haven’t made a good game since they cut North.
>>631357095Wow, making D3 sound a lot better in one couter-argument. Well done.
>>631357138How can you be this dense in the current year.This game has only to exist for normies to buy it, as they already did it -- and streamers/influencer helping it hype it up -- and the rest only serve as means to more profit and to promote woke agenda.Kys, retarded negro.
>>631357478Cope harder. D3 is right there if you want to keep farming the same gear every season, go ahead buddy.
To anyone wanting a refund, it's difficult to find on their website. You have to go to support and then search for the Diablo 4 refund. I heard that it's instant for a lot of people.
>>631357607So far every legendary I've seen just copies D3's stuff, so sure buddy farm that new "gear"
>>631356992Are you stupid? I said I didn't make this post >>631356575
>>631357809>NOOOOOOOOO NOT MECope.
>>631357983The only one coping here is you. D4 will sell 30 million copies and give Blizzard like several billion dollars throughout its lifespan.
>>631357769Yeah and i've gotten multiple legendaries myself that are completely new with new effects, so your point means nothing. Great job!Also bringing back similar effects or items from previous games is kind of a thing diablo does, stuff like stone of jordan for example.You're really not cut out for arguing about video games, just take a fucking hike, kid.
>>631358087>n-no u>admits to being a consumerist droneConcession accepted.
Considering Blizzdrones ate up Immortal and it made big money besides being a cashgrab..How are the chances the game is gonna get reviewed really well without the cast shop. And once it goes live its some ubisoft tier shit like better gear rolls and upgrade material?
>>631358270oh my god, my wallet is so fucking ready.LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>>631356371>D4 is literally Lost Ark but with a diablo immortal skinWhat sounds like something that can become the biggest thing ever
>>631358270>better gear rolls and upgrade material?They have specifically said a dozen times in a dozen different ways in a dozen interviews that you can't buy any kind of power/advantages/ingame progression with money.There's no reason for them to even attempt that when they will sell so fucking many battle passes, cosmetics, expansions, etc.
>>631358270Chances are high that it gets 9s and 10s across the board. It really is a mediocre game, though. It doesn't deserve anything higher than a 5/10 but the cinematics and voice acting are obviously AAA which will wow the reviewers.
>>631358519>Blizzard never liesYou're fucked kid.
>>631354624I don’t understand what you people want, honestly. Diablo is a busy work game. All I want in a good Diablo game is interesting busy work and meaningful differences between my builds, D4 seems to achieve this better than D2 or D3, and we only have access to a third of the overall at-launch content. I’m sure that in a couple years, it’ll be filled with things to do. Maybe those things won’t be extremely riveting or special, but that’s never been true of any Diablo game. The whole franchise is built to be played when you’re drunk or high and want something to mildly stimulate your brain while you disassociate. It isn’t exactly high art.
bros wtf you said free honkong....
>>631358653>better than D2You've never even played D2 you fucking zoomer.
>>631358653Not him but the issue is that it's boring as shit and they turned my favorite single player dungeon crawler into a MMO. If they called the game World of Diablo instead of Diablo 4, I'd feel a lot less salty about it. If the game is good in 6 years, I'll pick it up then like I did with D3 but as it stands now, it sucks ass.
Remember: nu blizzard cannot make games.
>>631358653I want to plan builds and waste time farming for rune words, not spend money in Blizzards soon to be Microbucks store for pay to win bullshit.
>>631358610No, you're fucked. Fucked in the head to be specific. Of course blizzard lies but clearly you're not that familiar with blizzard since you have no idea what they lie about and what they don't.Blizzard isn't lying about the battle pass being cosmetic, that would be beyond retarded. They don't like about things like this.Blizzard lies about content updates and balance, they lie about time tables, difficulties of things, whether things will be grindy or not, etc.They don't fucking lie by saying the next expansion is water themed and then throw a fire themed expansion at you.
>>631358871>but as it stands now, it sucks assYou likely haven't even played it, and even if you actually have played it, you have only played like 10% of the game.
>>631355260>I just want to know if D4 Necromancer is like D2xhe doesn't know...
>dataminers have discovered strings of code leftover from the full game indicating level boost/potions are coming with release
>>631359050>You likely haven't even played it,
>>631359083NO WAY HAHAHAHAHAHgive source please
i bought the ultimate edition
>>631357095>D3 doesn't have MMO fetch side quests.True, it has better quests>D3 doesn't have world events.What is a world event? Seems like you go to a spot and then fight a boss, D3 has that>D3 doesn't have world bosses.Again, seems like it does>No they're not, just like dungeons and rifts are different in D3.Yep, they sure are. Dungeons are the same in D4, same layout and objectives etc.
>>631359164soure: his ass
>>631358742I did. There are numerous ways to play the original release, and then there’s the remake. Everybody who’s ever had Diablo gate kept has long had the opportunity to play D2. You can stop pretending that it’s 2010 and that a bunch of starry eyed faggots who’ve never heard of Diablo just bought D3 and think it’s the best thing ever made. D2 isn’t an underground niche game that you get to feel good about liking, you virgin paint thinner sniffing retard. That doesn’t matter because though because for some reason you retards use the fact that you’ve played D2 as some kinda get out of jail free card for having to acknowledge that other people are capable of forming disagreeing with you while also being informed. You’d rather pretend that everyone is retarded except you. Ironic but sad and funny so feel free to keep it up.
>>631358934>I want to plan buildsYou can do this.>waste time farming for rune words,You can farm for uniques, and there will be rune words later, along with set items.>pay to win bullshitThere's literally no kind of pay to win in D4 in any aspect.
>>631359191>underboobyea im going to buy it too now
>>631358519Like Diablo Immortal wasn't pay 2 win and totally balanced around free2play?They'll find a way. They always do.
>Planning on playing rogue last but first at release>Barb feels great>Decided to give Sorceress a go>It's utterly phenomenalgod guys if druid and necro end up cool i won't be able to pick a main.
>>631359247>I didBullshit.>BUT ABLOOBLOOBLOOBe quiet.
>>631359191based and underboob pilled
>>631343032being smart with your money does not mean you're poor, dumbshit zoomer shill>holy shit dis nibba so poor he won't pay five dollars to be served dog shit for dinner, what an idiot no cap
>>631359253>There's literally no kind of pay to win in D4 in any aspect.The game isn't even fucking out you babbling consumer drone. If you seriously think Blizzard won't introduce microtransaction P2W garbage you are a hilariously naive piece of fuck.
A good sequel is supposed to iterate and improve on the previous entries in a franchise. Diablo I was released in 1996, Diablo II in 2000. These games DEFINED the ARPG. 23 years later, what has Blizzard brought to the table with Diablo IV? How are they evolving the genre?All they have done is incorporated uninspired, time-wasting systems from MMOs and mobile games to keep people playing with busy work that only exists to boost cash shop sales.Please set some standards for yourselves.
>>631359224>seems like it doesWell when you're a retard with a low IQ like yourself i'd imagine a lot of things "seem" the same. I'm sure you would have a hard time figuring out the difference between a cake of coke or a can of sprite.Like D3 literally does not have world bosses. I don't know what else to tell you. They literally don't exist, period. This is reality. Only your head fantasy would be different.
>stop liking what I dislike!>stop disliking what I like!Why can't you just all be little more tolerant, bros?
>>631341635>D3's superiorbots aren't even trying
>>631359526besides immortal (not made by blizzard) name another blizz game that is p2w
>>631349346what am i looking at here
>>631359083>>631359164They have OPENLY talked about that in regards to the battle passes where they said that there will be something like a +% XP level boost potion in the FREE battle pass near the end, so that people can level up an alt easier every season.
>>631341635>D3's superior gameplay, itemization,
>>631359526>If you seriously think Blizzard won't introduce microtransaction P2W garbage you are a hilariously naive piece of fuck.If you seriously think Blizzard will introduce microtransactions P2W garbage you are a hilarious schizo piece of fuck. They will make billions from cosmetics, battle passes and expansions.
>>631359294do they buff classes to sorc level? nerf them to barbtard level? some in between? it'll be interesting to see. personally i like the sorc difficulty, if they want more difficult stuff they have 3 other difficulty settings to put it in for endgame
>>631359551Tell us what a world boss is
>>631359554I can't find any decent place to discuss my numerous issues with this game without either 12 year olds spamming shitposts are fanboys burying me in downvotes. I really don't want the game to fail. I really want a good Diablo game to grind.
>>631359294>>Barb feels greatI guess you haven't met the Den Mother yet.
>>631359783its called PoE you fucking idiot
>>631359736I mean I think balance overall is fine. My sorc started to slow down at 25. Barb felt fine it just felt like you need 1 more skills slot.Neyrelle's mom is a fucking annoying fight as barbarian tho.
>>631359438>”I like D4 as much as D2 so far”>you never played D2>”I did because the game is playable on everything even switch”>no you didn’tIs there a point or does your worldview just require that D2 is the best one? This is like arguing with Melee fags. They only had natural dopamine release pre-2006, therefore every game that comes later is inferior in every way to a game that was rushed out, filled with bugs, and light on content.
>>631359902PoE is shit. Fuck off.
>>631343032This faggot probably gave Paradox 300 dollars for CK2 and all the DLC lol
>>631359607Seterell see, seterell vee
>>631359610you know you can BUY tiers right?
>>631343032This mentality is why you will remain poor forever.
>>631360093You can only buy tiers for the premium pass, which only has cosmetics. For the free one you have to play to unlock everything.
People wanted Diablo 3 but darker, more mature and grittier. And they delivered just that, nothing more. To me it's not worth 70$.
>>631359941Nah if you didn’t play Diablo II before the expansion pass on dial up and a big warm CRT you might as well have never played it before.
>>631359934there's a slot for weapon mastery right? i can't remember but i think it was outside the beta zone so no-one can access it? sorc felt like it got a huge boost with 1st enchantment slot unlock and like you i felt her slow down a bit at 25. iron maelstrom or whatever ultimate was deleting pretty much every elite and doing huge damage to dungeon bosses once i got to 25 on barb but the other skills still feel underwhelming compared to the clear of sorceror skills
>>631360240People is retarded. Blizzard is retarded. This genre has no salvation.
>>631359738Why the fuck do i have to explain to you what a world boss is? You're posting on /v/ for fucks sake are you not familiar with video games at all? Have you ever played a single MMO?Literally just youtube a video of the world boss in D4 or any of the world bosses in diablo immortal.Like there is literally videos to show you what they are go fucking look. They're just big bosses that require a large amount of players to whittle down and they spawn at set or random times with long timers in open world zones, generally with a good reward for killing them.Should i explain to you what a durability system is next? How about an upgrading system? What about 'elite' enemies? Maybe you even need me to hold your hand and explain even the most basic shit like what leveling up is?
>>631360219In the interview they said you can pay for tiers with premium currency on both
>>631360240Diablo 3's main problem is that people talked too much
>>631360390I'm not sure if you have a low IQ or something, but that guy was clearly asking "what is a world boss" as a rhetorical question, because you said D3 has them, while they clearly don't.
>>631360390So just a boss then, got it.Also, I watched someone solo that "world boss" yesterday when the rest of the party died. So yeah, sorry buddy, but you are getting tricked by the MMO aspects.
>>631360408No, they did not. They specifically said that you can only pay for tiers on the premium one. If you think otherwise, I encourage you to go ahead and post timestamp to a video.
>>631360479>Diablo 3's main problem is that people talked too muchThat was the main problem for the campaign. The campaign was a pile of dogshit, yes. But no one plays Diablo for the fucking campaign.
>>631360493So i'm arguing with a genuine retard who suddenly is only "pretending" to be retarded in his last post, and i'm low IQ for not noticing?Riiiiiiight
>>631360687Yes, you are socially retarded, because he was obviously being facetious when he asked you to define what a world boss was, yet you took it literally.
>>631360559........There is more than single party of people you fucking retard
>>631360651the gameplay of D3 far supercedes its previous iterations. the fact that you have to actually move is notable. bounties are just MF/countess/hole runs
>>631360240I certainly didn't want diablo 3 again
>>631360319My issue with Barb is I felt like I needed more abilities than i had slots for. I had no space for an ultimate abilities.I had frenzy/dual swing, then i felt like HAD to have war cry and warstomp, and then you need leap or charge for mobility, and then deathblow for easy berserking.
>>631354481>there's level scaling in effect so the mobs always take the same damage and time to kill.objectively wrong, your power creep outpaces scaling if you are constantly getting better gear be it by farming a specific spot or purchasing/crafting.
>>631350904You are both faggots
>>631360756So Mr. Omniscient, is he still being facetious or is he actually so retarded he doesn't understand how open world work? >>631360559
>>631360581https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23816415/diablo-iv-quarterly-update-august-2022#Passthey only said that you won't be able to use boost if you buy tiers which sounds fine
>>631360861deathblow was fucking kino even if it means killing mobs pretty much 1 at a time. a seventh skill would be good on all the classes imo but what can you do? consolefags ruin everything
>>631360764>........There is more than single party of people you fucking retardLiterally doesn't matter. 12, 8, 1 people. There's nothing special, it's just a boss dude, this time it's outside woah!!!!
>>631361040AND IT'S TIMED DOODJUST LIKE MY MMOS
https://dimi777.github.io/diablo-rift-simulator/ Quick /v/ roll a 5 star gem in diablo immortal
>>631360261Then you’re exactly the type of retard that I’m used to seeing on here. I was alive when D2 released, and I’d still rather play on my Sony Bravia 4k TV with HDR than a CRT. Cope, seethe, dilate, whatever you need. Just know that nobody is impressed with your retro obsession, and maybe you’d be a bit more capable of enjoying things released today if you weren’t a social pariah stuck in the 90s gushing from every orifice about the things you were doing instead of going outside when you were a kid.
>>631360920>objectively wrong, your power creep outpaces scaling if you are constantly getting better gear be it by farming a specific spot or purchasing/crafting.Faming gear means killing monsters which means getting levels which means the monsters do too. It's clearly possible to play the game still, that is the point, but it's just a really stupid system for an ARPG
>>631361112we are gonna make it bros...
>>631356886The first fucking post itt you drooling cock sucking faggot nigger kike
>>631341635>no game in collector's game edition 97$>70$ standard, 90$ p2w option, 100$ accelerated battle pass>battle pass 10$>every dlc 50$ and new character 15$ (D3 prices, these will be higher for D4) >forever online mode (banned for misgendering? Money stolen!) 15$/month for console users>premium currency & cash shop transmog, mounts (now), wings, auras, emotes, poses, dances (implemented over time) >mmo part (idea stolen from Lost Ark) of game exists only for whales to show their superiority over poor retards>already 5 difficulties (hello torment XXVI i missed you) >no trade (white trash only) >no sets (they'll add it with loot boxes patch) >smart loot with legendary showers (just as promised) >2 stats + dps on weapon is all you need (+30 other stats nobody cares about, just like D3) until you reach max level then game turns into Pokemon Go where you have to collect them unique affixes and powers for meta build from internets>horse is now your companion>ol' good rifts are also there this time called nightmare dungeons>copy pasted (handcrafted) dungeons>mobile to console then to pc port>plays like oversimplified version of already simple D3, uses same skills animations, graphics are also from D3, damage numbers are also straight from D3(that is 70$+ tip) >Be whoever you want to be, ugly asian, trans mayo, female SJW or American black the choice is your, save the Sanctuary today (70$ + tip) >black and female characters are smart, brave and powerful and whites are greedy, dumb and useless(proved by every trailer, gameplay video and game itself) >story is as good as any Rings of Power tier story can be. >the company openly hates you (the fan) >Game made in Asia, edited in California by twitter activists and raging homosexuals>no diablo in diablo gameI must admit, OP is right this time. Diablo 4 is kino we deserve can't wait to see what actiblizz prepared for me in their cash shop attached to D3 gameplay.
>>631361170Blizzard hasn’t made a good game since Blizzard North shut its doors. I’m perfectly capable of enjoying modern games but as much as I’ve tried I haven’t been able to acquire a taste for modern Blizzard diarrhea.
>mfw retards get bamboozled into buying yet another Blizzard game
Show me this but in Diablo 4 and I will buy
>>631357769Thats because legendaries are "trash" items, the ones that really have a massive effect are called Uniques and Ancients and those unlock after a certain world tier.
>>631341847I agree with you.
Will we have a repeat of this happening in 2 months
Right off the bat I think making their first zone this claustrophobic series of trails with very few monsters was a mistake. Where are the big open killing fields of D2?
>>631343032If i keep my money i get richer.I am going to do that.Thank you for the advice.FAGGOT.
>>631354806Definitely worth getting on sale. Free weekend next weekend so check it out then (wait until Saturday desu) but it's fun.
>>631361908Whatever you do, don't think about diablo 2 when playing this gameit will only leave you disappointed and frustrated
>>631361889Honestly I hope so, it will be hilarious and will be precisely what blizzdrones deserve
>631361439troons gotta learn brevity
I have never played diablo or poe but this looks pretty fun to me. Gonna wait for reviews but might pick it up.
>>631341635Shits fun, and leagues better than D3, its not even a comparison. Gives me old school D1/D2 vibes with a mix of expansive map like Grim Dawn. Not counting disconnects and some performance issues which will get smoothed out, I'd say so far my experience is a 9/10.
>>631362228this anon makes me smile
>>631362228what vibesit's like 90% diablo 3
>>631362010given the recent level of marketing that dragonflight had, i imagine this could actually be a real life shill
stupid casuals and radicalized chuds are unironically going to ruin this game. this game should have the greater rift function and an auction house. everything else is just bait for casuals and retards. ARPG is a solved product, just remake diablo 3 better content. literally all you have to do. diablo 3 is unironically a pretty good game. throw in all the stupid shit you want but just know that this game will FAIL without a greater rift and auction house. serious players don't care about the story, they don't care about skin color, they don't care about how big the numbers get or if they can play with their girlfriend. the casuals will quit after 3 months regardless of how hard you cater to them. whether the game lives or dies depends on the hardcore players, and we want deep itemization and customization with straight-to-dungeon play and an auction house. this is digital stamp collection with an asteroids minigame, you the company knows it and all the serious players do too. put in the important features and go from there, stop putting the concerns of actual retards who think that big numbers and selling items are bad and want to relive their shitty childhood where diablo 2 substituted for their absent fathers.
>>631362309it's a copypasta from previous threads
>>631341635Why isn't this a F2P?
>>631343268I thought Barb was ass until I got death blow. That and upheaval alone output insane damage
>>631361512b-but they said it was going to be different THIS time!
>>631362228Good for you, anon. It's a fun game. Don't let an autist tell you otherwise. I hope you are not really black though. In that case the game is shit and you should kys.
>>631362309>diablo fans just want a mix of D2 and D3>get exactly that>WTF NOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY IT MUH MUH MUH D3 ASPECTSThe sweet salty tears of /v/ shitposters is going to be so delicious when the full game releases.
>>631362654this also reads like someone who's trying to emulate early 2010s era 4chani'll rescind my remark if you type the word 'nigger'
It's fucking boring. I'm not a massive fan of this genre but the class building seems SUPER limited. In PoE I was covering the screen in insane retarded bullshit in no time, D4 just seems dull by comparison.
Sitting at 15 hours and I can safely say this is the ARPG the market has been waiting for. This is the best thing released since Diablo 2. The polish the gameplay the passion. It is clear that Blizzard is back and has their best developing the game. I highly recommend you get ahead of the curve in this beta because soon this game will be king of the market redefining the genre as we know it.
Fuck all of you I liked it.
This is actually one of the times where /v/ and reddit have 50/50 opinions on the game.Uncanny
>>631362970trying to poll an anonymous community is a worthless endeavor. it does sound like something a marketer would try to do though
D2fags are such fucking posers. Yeah the game was amazing when your were 8 and MMOs didn't exist yet. You'd think these fags were propping up Ultima online or something actually sensational.
>>631362010I'm sorry but the list gets longer with each bullshit related to actiblizz and their diablo clone. Ask your employer if he could stop shitting on their own product for a brief moment, could you do that for me?
>>631341635just refunded this piece of shit last night
>>631363069ur a schizo lol
>>631362815>It is clear that Blizzard is back and has their best developing the gameHoly Shit, I am actually offended by this. Nothing is fucking back. Blizzard has been dead for many many years now. All of the talent that made blizzard great left long ago. And this game is literally just a clone of a gook mmo with all the shitty game design and modern game bullshit included.Actually kill yourself, not joking.
>>631362818thats because youre gay
>>631362818>Abby in D4 Is it canon that D4 takes place in the last of us?
>>631341635I watched a stream and it looked like the most boring shit I have ever seen. Just a totally soulless corporate product, no inspiration or joy of creation at all.
Is it true a majority of the maps aren't dynamically made? Might bot on it
>>631363182thats not how that goes. try again
>>631363265>looks like chinaftfy
>>631341635>poetards seething>v hates it>slutmog>even barb woman is hotI will now play your game
>>631363265maybe that's a (You) thing because i had the opposite experience. really, genuinely love it
>>631363105I don't even want to be a d2fag but literally no other game has managed to succeed it
Just wait some years of patches and expansions
>>631363358Nice try Rajeesh
>>631363326>try againur a schizo lol
>>631363358>slutmogskeep posting that one underboob and disregard that male sorc has bigger cleavege than fem sorc
So to recap: blizzard is dead, but the game is still pretty good?
>>631363358>sees large piece of fresh dogshit in front of him>people angry because they stepped into it>people disgusted by it>Scatological tendencies awaken within him>If people don't like this piece of turd then it must be good>drops to his knees and eats it
>>631357138honestly i would rather have a witch doctor than niggerfied barbarian
>>631341635>anything blizzshitehard no thanks
>>631363412>but literally no other game has managed to succeed itSoon... hopefully
is this good map design?
>>631362818>>631363483>literally the troon from TLOU2Homosexual men are not allowed on this board
>>631359112did you get that survey about cash shop prices and layout? lmfao
>>631363689So that's what they meant when they say it feels like Diablo 2....
>>631363689it wins by default as it is actually randomly generated
>>631363631No, blizzard is dead and this is a souless corporate product aimed only to make money off the diablo brand. All the talent left long ago, what do you fucking think?
Its D3 with gritty art style and the writing is just as shitty.>oh wee I am dying>look at the light>ohh the light And that chink cunt is fucking annoying, fucking hell.
On the mission where you're performing the exorcism, in their prayer they say ""father"". Who's this again?? Did they slip away from a real lore standpoint?
>>631363579>Slutmog for woman(good)>Slutmog for men(bad)I don't have a problem with it, but I dont see what kind of audience they try to target with it. Selfinserts wont use it, dressupplayers will only create female characters, same goes for women
>>631363917>>631364312>>631364341>>631364346Why do you so thoroughly enjoy draining men's penises with your throat?
>>631363632Poetards are not really people
>>631341635Shits fun, and leagues better than D3 and PoE, its not even a comparison. Gives me old school D1/D2 vibes with a mix of expansive map like Grim Dawn. Not counting disconnects and some performance issues which will get smoothed out, I'd say so far my experience is a 9/10.
>>631341635>D3's superior gameplay, itemization, and storytelling>superiorJust how delusional are people nowadays?
>>631363713You lost the cultural war. Now shut the fuck up, get down on your knees and suck my dick, you little bitch.
>>631364442Please enlighten me what is wrong with optional cosmetics on male characters
i saw you can choose the sisterhood of the sightless eyes are your faction as a rogue. i think i know the answer already, but can you dress like a d1/d2 rogue at all
>>631364552>He then proceeds to act out his fag fantasieslol
>>631362815>polish>at least 5 different fonts being used in their shitty UI at any given time>screen filled with shit>MMO bullshit time wasting "quests">useless "lore" that is never referenced or touched on again>mobile game UI styling and fontsblizzard is dead and but a mere shadow of their former selvesthis game is fucking shit, no matter how you want to try and cut it
>>631364346Should have seen it. Feels wrong though. Inarius guide me!
>>631364474>some performance issuesYes thats a very gentle way to call a game that voraciously devours vram and murders people's graphics cards
>>631364686>at least 5 different fonts being used in their shitty UI at any given timekek, it's true. What a missmanaged game.
>>631364570Not that exposing, there is a similar armor with long sleeves and long pants
>>631364640It was indeed intended to give you a chuckle, but I don't understand why you felt the need to explain the point, that kinda ruins it.
>>631364556There is nothing wrong but if the cosmetics for males have more sexappeal than cosmetics for females it's clearly a fag game.
>>631364686>cherry-picked console screenshotopinion discarded
>>631359594Sure, WoW. Buy token, buy boosts, win.
>>631365117>inb4 you are not winning anything cope
>>631343032So this is why most americans live paycheck to paycheck, pay rent and have no savings
>>631364989it's not cherry picked you stupid dickwad, it literally happened numerous times while playing the gamebut you keep defending this shitty corporation and the literal faggots who took a beloved franchise and twisted it into this mobile/MMO/gay shit that it is nowenjoy your battlepass, you fucking sheep
>>631352019It's $2.50 usd on green man gaming as well.
They took D3, made the atmosphere darker and grittier more in line with D2, then they infused it with shitty MMO and mobile gaming mechanics, battle pass and cash shop included. In no way can this game be considered an evolution of the ARPG, or even the basic Diablo formula. It brings nothing new to the table, just systems that have existed in the shittiest types of games for years. The game is a complete and utter failure.
>>631351046>is just the betaBINGO!
Ok so I just hit lvl 20. Love it. love it. love it.This is easily the best Diablo game in the franchise. Music is on point, audio in general is CRISP. Story is great so far. Loving the gameplay but I've only tried sorc. Itemization and build variety is the best in the series. They stole the graphics from PoE but they should have. PoE shamed D3 in the gfx department. Cannot await for launch.I do hope they change the skill tree though. My eyes can't seem to adjust well to it. It sucks. Straight up, it's awful.
>>631364570i saw some streamer go around pants less on rogue via some cosmetic feature.
>>631365159nah the blizzdrone argument is usually "you are not competing against anyone" which they copied from gacha.
>>631341635>70$ base game>probably have to pay out of the ass for micro-DLC zones and extra classesno, thanks
>>631349346Jesus fucking Christ Blizzard
>>631365713>This is easily the best Diablo game in the franchise>t. zoomer who only played diablo 3 and diablo 2Renjoy battlepass, faggot
>>631365905Diablo 3 shill
Diablo 4? More like Sorc 4
>>631352972The writing is awful, I don't even understand the main character's motivation for being in the situation. There's no backstory like the first three Diablo games, it makes no sense. It's just not as blatantly cartoonish as D3.
>>631365690Nice ideas but the visuals and progression feel cheap. Also I don't get the time-travel gimmick, what is the point?
>>631352567Setting aside that the entire post is schizo rambling, what is even the issue with gold being a game currency? Like, can you find a more irrelevant shit to complain about for the sake of complaining? Holy shit.
>>631365885You unbathed parrtoniggier. Permavirgin bloatgoblin. I've been playing Diablo games since before you were born. Call me uncle from now on, in fact, lardblob.It's one of my favorite series and I figured it was dead after that abortion call D3. Immortal was just D3: AIDS Edition. I bet you didn't even play the beta. D4 is official.
>>631366193Nigga no one is gonna believe you when you say itemization and build variety is the best in the series.>hmm should I play with skill a or skill b hmm so much variety it's better than fucking D3 but not best in the series
>>631365713>and build varietyWhat build variety? Every skill has 2 upgrade choices that are mainly just "numbers go up by 25%". Where's the variety?
>>631349346Wow, just wow. D2 had procedurally generation dungeons. The best patterns we could come up with was "go clockwise [or counter-clockwise] from the entrance to get to the exit the quickest."Here we are, over 20 years later, on the cusp of a major AI revolution. An AI that can generate essays, scripts, dialogues, technical writing, art, music, etc. And this is the best the D4 devs could come up with. The most basic of "building blocks" to procedurally generate the most bland, samey, dungeons I've ever seen in a video game. Oh how Blizzard has fallen.
>>631361889I can guarantee you that it %100 won't.
>>631364686>multiple fontsAnd? Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Why?>screen filled with shit...You mean one pop up because you clicked on a letter?>mobile game UIThat's a phone picture of a console game lmao. UI on PC looks pretty standard, same as it was in D2 and D3.
>>631366193then if you're an oldfag like me then you are delusional as fuck if you think this game is any good, or anywhere near D1/D2I did play the beta, and cancelled my preorder after getting to 25. It's official, yes. Official SHIT
>>631366427>had procedurally generation dungeonsthe procedural generation was extremely limited and easily cheesed because of it. take that relic of its pedestal and be honest.
>>631365160It's because america is the only developed country having kids and will be the only developed country to survive boomers retiring
>>631366427diablo 2 has those too. just not as many 'rooms' and more 'tunnels'
>>631366435Wha? Who is talking? Hello?Shut the fuck up.
>>631366554You're absolutely right, it was. But that was in 2000. And this is objectively worse. Look at the screenshot.
>>631366332>>hmm should I play with skill a or skill b hmm so much variety nigga. Tell me you didn't play shit without telling me you didn't play shit.So you have 6 skills you can keep with hotkeys and idk how many more you can keep without hotkeys but they're still there. but the time I reached level 20 with sorc, this was a versatile crowd controller, modified by legendaries which would completely change the playstyle depending on the modifiers on those legendaries. If you're going to be a hater, whatever. I can't fuck w you. If you actually played the game though, prove it.
>>631366652Fair enough. It's not a huge detractor for me, but you're right. They could put in the effort to make dungeon generation more varied and intricate or at least appear like it.
>>631366747cooldown, cooldown, cooldown, cooldown, generator, spenderbrilliant
>>631366452It is so far beyond D1/2. I can give reasons on reasons as to why it's better and all these reasons are demonstrably sound. Tell me why you think it's worse.
>>631361889it has a battlepass so yes
>>631348157>loot grinding clicking simulators: the genreWhy are ARPGs the most braindead of all game genres? There’s literally no skill involved in a single one of these games. Just click and lootgrind bro.
>>631361439>>black and female characters are smart, brave and powerful and whites are greedy, dumb and uselessDefault nigress Sorceress is an absolute stunner.
>>631349346You missed one pattern being repeated 3 times.
>>6313657131 classic kfc crispy chicken sandwich has been added to your battle.net wallet
>>631348546replace torchlight 3 with 2, for your own good
>>631341635>soulless chink gacha shitFuck off greedy marketer.
Tell me one NEW thing this game offers. Not systems that have been borrowed from mobile gaming or MMOs, something new that evolves ARPGs or the Diablo formula. There is nothing there. No substance whatsoever.
>>631362814> In PoE I was covering the screen in insane retarded bullshit in no timeZoom zoom adhd
>>631366850>cooldownCooldown?? Something THIS good is ruined by cooldown that lasts what.... 5 seconds, tops? It's not like it's universal. It's per-skill. How can you not adapt to efficiency within minutes if you have a male mind, tranny?
Can't wait to play Druid in bear for-right forgot
>>631366427>>631349346Not to defend nublizzard, but I think it's far too easy to nondevs to conflate simple dungeons with bad design. This is simply not the case. It's pretty common these days to not waste the players time, which is why so many games have relatively linear levels, it maintains a sense of flow and progression. You've got to realize that zoomies need a constant loud blaring noise in front of their face every 4 seconds to secure their attention span. And if we are being honest, Diablo hasn't been about REAL dungeon crawling since the original. The genre has shifted toward mowing down a billion monsters with as little friction as possible. Vampire Survivors' success is evidence of this fact even PoE has simple map design.Additionally, its also easy to think that AI is a one click solution to all your problems, but overwhelmingly it's not very practical or viable in most scenarios, and implementation of it is far more complicated that most people realize.I guess what I'm saying is, cut them some slack and criticize the things that legitimately matter. I suspect their itemization will be utter shit, and builds will be a bore. If you want a genuine dungeon crawling experience, Diablo is not the franchise to be fixated on.
>>631367003Give 2 pl0x.
>>631367051I feel like that's pretty much the point of what they're doing. Nothing here is innovative. They just took their own tried and true formula and applied a coat of pretty paint on it and that's it. And I suspect this will be more than enough for a lot of people.
>>631367112cooldowns sucks, simple aseven the roll has a cooldown
>the absolute state of poetrannys
>>631367180But they still waste your time imo.Strongholds are much better and faster.This shit is your endgame, i got bored of running dungeons after 1 hour
>>631367397At least with sorc, you don't use it so much. When you do need to use it, it's surprising how frequently you can use it. It almost seems broken.
>>631343032I talked a friend into buying Deep Rock Galactic for $10. We already have 20 hours played. No gamepass, no $70. Just rock and stone for a reasonable price.
>>631366923post your 150 GR
>>631366452nah it's officially good and you're seethingabsolute mindbreaklmao
even reddit doesn't seethe that hard at negativity holy shittime to unironically go back
>>631355260I put about 15hrs into the D4 beta and basically did all I could on a barb ( meaning I finished the story and did everything )I only choose the barb because necro wasn't an option. I play every if not every other season of D2 and always main the necro, its a playstyle I just love and no other game has done a similar playstyle since. PoE pets are up a limited time or need to be activated and D3 is pretty much the same, you have to activate the pet powers otherwise they auto-attack and do no damage and this to me doesn't feel like a real pet class after what we got in D2. Sadly with that said the barb is a copy/paste of the D3 barb which leads me to believe that the necro will be as well, not a single thing felt new, all the legendaries I got felt like copies of one another one was whirlwild spawns tornados, another was double slash spawns tornados, groundstomp spawns earthquake, leap spawns earthquake, ect, ect. I got prob 15? Legendaries in my time playing and I can't even name one of them here and now because none of them are worth remembering. The game feels like they grabbed 50% of Diablo immortal and 50% of Diablo 3 and put them in a blender and this is what came out.
>>631366856nigger just read any of the other hundreds of posts in this thread saying why this game is shit
>>631367180>>631367270Thanks for the actual thoughtful replies. I guess I'm just barking up the wrong tree if I wanted something more. This game is definitely not for me. I don't want a "forever game" that is filled with busy work that doesn't actually keep me engaged.I would've been ok if they evolved on rifts or PoE's maps and scrapped the rest of the MMO stuff. I would've been fine if seasons brought me back for 2-4 weeks, then I stopped playing until the next season. But no, they're going for that "gotta keep you hooked 24/7" MMO stuff that completely turns me off.
>>631367467Bold of you to asume they've not sniffed the last drop of it by now and OD hard with >its le bad!!!! threads
>>631367627I wish that game had crossplay so I could play it with my brother. No one else wants to play it with me.
>>631367783Do me a solid because I played the game for myself and also because I'm lazy. Post one that you believe illustrates some kind of truth as to why D4 sucks.I'll save you the time, with your lies and indignance. You won't and you can't. D4 is legitimately dope. The kind of game that gives you chills.
>>631366134>what is even the issue with gold being a game currencyBecause in a singleplayer game, it makes no sense. It's an infinite, endless stacking resource that you gain passively, and the only purpose it has is to make it feel like there's something you're gaining that then has to be sunk out of the game via increasingly inflated gold-sink vendors and nonsense mechanics. Literally the fucking reason why the Auction House in D3 made no sense. It's an abstract resource that has no place in a game where you're engaging with other players because that just means everything will have to constantly inflate over time since the amount of gold in the game's economy (both single and multiplayer) will never decrease.The ONLY logical system for a game that you are meant to play/farm endlessly is a barter or utilitarian currency system like PoE where when certain orbs become too plentiful, they devalue and are replaced by something more rare as the standard unit.
>>631368141>The kind of game that gives you chills.lmao
>>631368179>Because in a singleplayer game, it makes no sense. It's an infinite, endless stacking resource that you gain passively, and the only purpose it has is to make it feel like there's something you're gaining that then has to be sunk out of the game via increasingly inflated gold-sink vendors and nonsense mechanics. compare this to what you feel is a better kind of currency if you would kindly.
>>631368309Anon did you literally stop reading the post in order to reply?
Diablo 4 has already been confirmed as having 50 million preorders. It will be the highest earning ARPG of all time.
>>631368385oh, I read it. It can't possibly be what was requested though, considering it's the same thing. I'll continue to wait.
World boss was fun to fight.Exploring the zones was fun.Story weas better than most triple AAA trash we are getting. VIGO's moment is KINO as fuck.Blizzard are jews and $70 games are bullshit, but I'm having fun and will get my 70 hours of playtime required to feel good about myself.
>>631367149? druid has bear form
>>631368528I enjoyed sorc so much in the beta I don't know if I will follow my plan of being a necro after all. Shit was cash
>>631341635>superior itemizationIt's dogshit WoW ilvl items.
>>631368464...what. So you didn't read it, at all. Or if you did, English isn't a language you understand well enough to comprehend.Bad:>Gold is an infinite, endless resource that is constantly trending up and has no way to be sunk out of the economy except maybe by locking important gameplay features behind arbitrarily (and necessarily scaling) gold costs in order to wage a futile war against inflation that you created to begin with.Good:>Currency is utilitarian, meaning that it necessarily has an in-game utility that players need to use in order to accomplish things, thus ensuring that it maintains trade value and also and inherently sinks itself out of the economy to keep it from inflating.Do you just not understand what these words mean?
>>631368528LOL!>pick up orange item>put on orange itemThe itemization in this game is straight trash
>>631349139You can do all the endgame pinnacle stuff without spending a cent.
>>631368748no it doesn't. It literally has been itemization at level 20 than PoE has for the first 10 acts>t. still like PoE betternigger ass liars
>>631368528>all legendary alreadywtf is that shit
>>631368679in gameplays I only see bear form during the attackno fucking choice to transform into bear instead of werewolf
>>631368773Yellows are better than orange. More affixes, and you can put a legendary affix on it
>>631366747Can you turn off the control prompts?
>>631368837you can make/craft them to keep the effects going. Easy to cap in this limited beta where you stop at 25. During gameplay I think you can afford to keep 1-2 effects up to date
>>631352325>People will quit after a weekThe original team at blizzard carefully designed the first 2 games. What we have here in diablo 4 is a fucked up mess, These hacks made something more akin to a knockoff from thq.
>>631368528Diablo's gearing system is just so fucking boring.>Legendary item best.>Just kill <Boss> until legendary item drop>Then use Legendary item with best DPS number and bonus to your favorite skill>Congrats, this is a "build".It's just so fucking underwhelming and uninteresting. It's actually only slightly more in-depth than like, Assassin's Creed (or other Ubisoft clone games) where you just wear whatever gear has the biggest number on it in a mockery of RPG mechanics.
>>631368769I interpreted this to mean that gold is a worthless trade resource because it is an infinitely gathered passive resource, while other trade resources that are infinite and passively gained are superior. I apologize for my glib interpretation but what is it that you were trying to insist?
>>631368835>It literally has been itemization at level 20 than PoE has for the first 10 actsBro what? What choice did you make on any single item?Did you pick the ring with the +2 dex and the 1.5% extra crit damage or the ring with +2 strength and the 1% max health?
>>631343032>being smug about buying a 70 USD gamea bit bizarre
>>631368773You can do lots of customization and it's actually more optimal to remove the powers from orange items you get and put them onto rares that have better stats.>>631368837I put in some hours, but the world boss dropped like 4 legendaries. TBF you can only claim it once a weekAlso there is some RNG merchant who has like a 1 in 5 to give you a legendary that uses some special quest currency.
>>631369134>You can do lots of customization and it's actually more optimal to remove the powers from orange items you get and put them onto rares that have better stats.Totally, that is why everyone has a full character full of orange items. Cool story bro
>>631368937>>631369134So legendaries mean shit in this gamealright
>>631369024I'm saying the fact that gold exists in Diablo, and the game devs insist on using it as an in-game currency, is retarded design and makes no sense, and the only reason they're doing it is because it was how games in 2000 were made and they're incapable of creating anything new that actually works because no one developing this game actually sat down to think about it at all. Gold makes no sense in Diablo, that's a given. But the fact that not only do no devs realize this, but none of the people defending the game care about this, is the whole point. No thoughts are happening, just mindless drooling.
>>631369058bro what choice did you make in PoE? Did you get resists, or the life? Maybe you got bothWOOOOAAA SHITWhat's that? You didn't get one? Well go craft it on there with the bench because it doesn't fucking matter before mapsNot even going to bother listing out the D4 gear traits because you'll just go >d..d.d.d.d.doesn't..c.c.ount.....retard
>>631369315>So legendaries mean shit in this gameYes. That's what uniques are for.
>>631350464>then: addiction (only because mummy keeps paying the bill)>now: streamer man career make millionsDon't know what happened to that kid but missed out on the streamer bucks obviously.
>>631369306>I am retarded and can't use my two braincells to see that 5 things are better than 4I am sorry about your mom and the lead
>>631352492I was wondering how this would work as I've only ever used keyboard and mouse. Might have to try controller if it means I can be even lazier
>>631369134>You can do lots of customizationOh yeah? Are we talking like, full Crit builds? Max Block/Armor tank builds? Scaling the number of minions you can summon to absurd levels? Self-Damage Trigger builds? Max attack radius builds? What kind of customization are we talking here?
>>631369346>they're incapable of creating anything new that actually worksand we're back here again. Fix the issue.
>Thorn and Bleed Barb>Walk into a room>everything dies just for being aware of my existenceI bet this won't be viable late but i feel like god.
>>631369570>Are we talking like, full Crit builds? Max Block/Armor tank builds? Scaling the number of minions you can summon to absurd levels? Self-Damage Trigger builds? Max attack radius builds? Not the guy you're replying to but yeah. All that. And more.
>>6313674672 will fix the game.
>>631369680>but yeah. All that. And more.We do a little shitposting
>>631368835ESL poster who's also retarded stop using google translate.
>>631369680>yeah. All that. And more.That's odd because not a single person at Blizzard, or any of the shills, ever once mentioned the word "build" during the entire decade this game has been in development. They haven't shown off any different variations or builds of any of the skills, and we already know for a fact that classes have a small selection of core skills, so there's inherently limited choices to start.How exactly are we going to end up with all these builds you claim exist?
>>631369578I bet you it will. Crusader in D3 had a set built around thorns and they KNOW it's a thing people want, which is why gems have it as a stat.
>>631369884>garbled nonsense poster accusing others of being an ESL Nice try, but I won't let it pass that you have zero rebuttal.
>>631369938the next beta is free for everyone. Play it.
>>631369948>Crusader in D3 had a set built around thorns and they KNOW it's a thing people want, which is why gems have it as a stat.You forget that the only point of Thorns in D3, on that particular build, is to scale Bombardment with a huge ass multiplier. The thorns by themselves don't do shit.
>>631370106>JUST PAY $200 WHAT ARE YOU POOR LOL
>>631370190>the next beta is free for everyone.>is free>free>FREE>>JUST PAY $200 WHAT ARE YOU POOR LOLWAT
>>631369938Bet you feel stupid now huh
>>631369356I didn't mention anything about PoE at all, nice try though.The items in D4 could not be more boring
>>631370390Wrecked, I tell you. Devastated. I think, honestly I have no idea what this image is meant to mean other than the dude has 10 of the same "random" item.
>>631370070What is garbled nonsense about saying D4 itemization is an exact copy of modern WoW? How is this an improvement over D2?
So far the only thing I thought was bad about this game was how dungeons feel repetitive and have unfun missions that require pointless backtracking. Shit like this >>631349346 is inexcusable.As per everything else though, the systems implemented are pretty much better than any other competitor.>Better than D2Lacks stupid potion spam, immunities and overpowered runewords that make drops pointless. Skill tree is fixed synergies. >Better than D3Looks much better, the potion system is better than potions with cooldown. No set bullshit. Transfering legendary affixes > Kanai's cube. Much better affixes for items. >Better than PoENo flask piano bullshit. Basic skill tree is easy enough to use while there being room for experimentation with the paragon trees. Not nearly as many autistic systems to experiment, but I guess there are people who are into this shit.>Better than Last EpochHonestly, I take that back, they are sort of even and frankly are very similar. The potion system is nearly identical. LE has better crafting and the skill tree is like D4 but permits much more customization without falling into the depths of PoE's autism. On the other hand, D4 has better combat and overall moment-to-moment gameplay. Numbers may need tweaking, but that's not the same thing as the principles, which are fundamentally solid.