How was the Nintendo Switch able to outsell the PS4 with three years less on the market, no CoD, no GTAV and very few media functions?
better games
>>631340258kids
>>631340258The entire lack of games worth playing means that it is kids selling it. No adult would buy a console with at best 10 games to play after near 7 years.
>>631340414But enough about CoD and GTA.
Nintendo Switch 2023 so farJanuary:>Fire Emblem EngageFebruary:>Metroid Prime Remastered >Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Expansion Pass Wave 3>Kirby’s Return to Dream Land DeluxeMarch:>Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon>You Are Already Thin! Fitness Boxing Fist of the North StarApril:>Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot CampMay:>The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the KingdomJune:>Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODEJuly:>Pikmin 4>Disney Illusion IslandAnnounced for 2023:>Baten Kaitos I & II HD Remaster>FANTASY LIFE i: The Girl Who Steals Time>Fashion Dreamer>Front Mission 2: Remake>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass [Wave 4]>Natsu-Mon! 20th Century Summer Vacation>Rune Factory 3 Special>Samba de Amigo: Party Central>Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass Wave 1Beyond:>Front Mission 3: Remake>Metroid Prime 4>Professor Layton and The New World of Steam>Resident Evil Outrage aka Revelations 3
>>631340467huh? Switch is literally the only console with a hefty amount of exclusives. I literally wish there were less games, my backlog is killing mesee>>631340590
>>631340590>same Pokemon gens in different tiersexplain, how is Shield in shit tier but Sword in low? both suck ass
>>631340869it's a bait imagewhy else would "god tier" be entirely wii U ports and ringfit lmao
>>631340467>nooo there's no games worth playing!g r a p e s
>>631340967>he's not a RingFitChadngmi
>>631340258it has games
>>631340258Software sells hardware. Same season Apple is on top. Iwata looked up to Jobs.
>>631340590>Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost DemonRecently bought a Switch but I've never played Bayonetta games before, should I get this game?
>>631341093Apple is on top because you look like a virgin pulling our your Android.
Doesn't even re4 or elden ring
pokemon and zelda, npcs love that trash
>>631340258>How was the Nintendo Switch able to outsell the PS4 with three years less on the market, no CoD, no GTAV and very few media functions?Because the PS4 is just a box that plays most of the same games that MicroSofts box plays and any half decent PC for that matter. The Switch is a handheld with an HDMI Dock and Nintendo handhelds always sell somewhere between 70-150 million units.
>>631341484>t. NPC talking point
>>631340590>>Rune Factory 3 SpecialNOT EXCLUSIVE, that's coming to PC in September>>Front Mission 2: RemakeThat's coming in June
There's nothing on switch worth playing, parents get it for their kids cause it's a gameboy tablet that says Nintendo on it.
Nintendo bothered to advertise it, for one. The form factor also manages to avoid direct competition with both wired consoles and smartphones, the latter point being a key contribution to the 3DS selling half the DS' numbers.
>>631340467>No adult would buy a console with at best 10 games to play after near 7 years.but adults went out and bought a PS4 anon
>>631340258>large catalog of games of various genres that cater to different audiences>massive 3rd-party support alongside of solid first-party releases>hybrid form factor that allows handheld and TV sessions however the user wantsIt's also pretty much the sole certified console for japanese vidya.If anyone told me 5 years ago that a Nintendo console would be the go-to system for things like Atelier, Persona, EDF, Disgaea, Nier, Vanillaware and visual novels, I would have thought as nothing more than shitposting.
>>631340258It's the only handheld console on the market + Nintendo doesn't have to split their development teams between home and portable anymore, so it ended up getting twice as many games as usual + Unlike the 3DS, the hardware wasn't complete dogshit at launch + Great gimmick + Great marketing.
>>631341258Do you like levels that are literal mazes, metroidvania like progression and a battle system in which you play two seperate characters at the same time?
>>631340590SMT x FE was good.
>>631341279Go play Code Vein>>631342201>>631341258Go play Darksiders 3 and Bloodranye after Bayo
>>631341951>There's nothing on switch worth playingWhat games do you play?
>>631342201Yes
>>631340258I've been playing nintendo hardware since GBAbut the switch is a cheap piece of Chinese shit.My GBA still works, my switch had problems almost immediately like drift, and then it started having more problems that made it fucking unusable.I am really disappointed in shittendo.I am a PC chad, but I have always enjoyed their hardware all my life and I'm very disappointed in how they have become and how they treat their fans and people that love their products.
>>631342587Then buy it. It's great, the story is cute and has a gorgeous artstyle
About to mod my Wii U and which would be better to load games off of external hard drive or sd card?
>>631342817Eric, you're so obvious.
>>631340258>How>GTAshit>CODshit>FIFAshitThats how.
>>631342101>large catalog of games of various genres that cater to different audiencesThis is a big reason why the Switch outsold the PS4. Sony's exclusives all cater to the same audience. Hype beasts will buy anything that's marketed properly, but the core demographic of gamers won't be easily swayed by Horizon and TLOU graphics. Nintendo realizes this which us why they keep stuff like Xenoblade, FE, and Metroid around. It's why they throw money at games like Bayonetta and Astral Chain. Do they sell 10 million copies? No, but they build a loyal audience. The type of audience that will go to message boards and social media to talk about your game and system. Furthermore, Sony doesn't make any long lasting multiplayer games. Nintendo does. Sony doesn't make pick-up and play games as even Spider-Man and GoW feature tons of cutscenes that may deter people from replaying your game. And if they aren't replaying your game, then they aren't talking about it. With the exception of their RPGs, most of Nintendo's games don't have filler amd jump straight to gameplay.The big one is that Nintendo just makes more games that covers more genres. People like to blame Jim Ryan, but the real culprit behind the current state of Sony is Shawn Layden. It was his idea to release less games, but these few games would be AAA titles which would require massive development cycles and budgets in lieu of Nintendo's/old-Sony's approach of releasing several lower budget games in the middle of big releases. That was such a successful approach. Shawn Layden should be fucking smacked for trying to change a winning formula. That approach got Nintendo through the 90s, and even Ken Kutaragi respected Nintendo's approach and decided to copy some of their strategies during the PS1 era because it worked. When Nintendo's game output slowed down during the N64 era, they got sacked by the PS1.Playstation didn't become successful because of AAA games. It became successful because it had a lot of games.
>>631343169>noooo you can't just have a critical opinion of the company you loveshut the fuck you retard drone dick rider
>>631343201I remember reading old forum posts speculating the cause of the Dreamcast's failiure, and one common point was "EA stopped releasing sports games on it." Funny how EA had enough influence kill a console, but the abscence of any of thay shit couldn't put a dent on the Switch's momentum.
>>631343383>Playstation didn't become successful because of AAA games. It became successful because it had a lot of games.That was the main reason why I was into Playstation in the first place. It covered different kind of games, most of them niche.Also, I use the Switch primarily as a handheld but it's sometimes great as a home console, with dedicated controllers for certain titles. Such as the drum for Taiko Tatsujin or the brake controller for Densha de Go.
Who gives a shit how much a handheld sells, it has no third party support and most it's games were on Wii U already, it was a shitty console and I'm glad it's over, maybe now they can make games
>>631340258It's cheap af and kids love pokemon, Mario and zelda. I bought for my nephew.
>>631342484Not him, but for people who don't like JRPGs he's right, there's not much worth playing in terms of exclusives.I don't own a Switch, but I gave Yuzu a try after I upgraded my CPU. I played a grand total of four games (Mario Odyssey, Luigi's Mansion 3, Metroid Dread, Link's Awakening)... and that's it, I ran out of stuff to play.What makes the Switch so cool is the fact it's a handheld console powerful enough to get a shitload of ports: old games, new games, indies. But for people who don't care about portability (or JRPGs, there are so many JRPGs)... it's pretty meh.
>>631344434How are the train games on Switch? I like trains but I'm not a super nerd about them so I don't know how complex they are to play.
>>631340258Modern advertising, distribution and manufacturing methods. You're a retard if you think they're on the same playing field
>>631345198This honestly. Tendies keep boosting about how many games the switch has and it's selling because of them but even here you will be lucky to find any threads about any switch game that isn't pokemon, Mario, zelda or splatoon.For a console with this many games you would think half of /v/ threads would be all switch games.
>>631345663I see more threads complaining about sony than threads discussing Nintendo games.
CoD and GTAV are kids games, but kids these days spend more time on their phones than they do playing games. The Switch caters to people who grew up before everyone had a smart phone, and has a massive library of games for just about everyone. That's why the Switch userbase is typically in their 30's. The formfactor is also a huge selling point (yes, regardless of exclusives); there are no other current handhelds that do what the Switch does. The Deck tried, but missed everything that made the Switch so beloved.
>>631340258The perfect storm that was animal crossing and covid
>>631340258It has a lot of games. A regular stream of exclusives and decent support of online-focused games that have been released with free content on top of that.
>>631340258Bought it for animal crossing when I was 22 then I realized I was a grown ass 6'2" man and gave it to my niece.
>>631341258Absolutely. It's a real gem.
>>631340414Arent kids flocking around fortnite?
Just bought the Mario edition Switch that lets you choose one Mario game. I’m going to select Mario Kart.In addition to that I’m thinking of getting:>Splatoon 3>Switch Sports>Super Mario 3D World> Pro controller How’s this list? Keep in mind I’m more of a casual gamer and have a wife and kids who might also play.
>>631340258Because it's cheap and comfy though i dunno if people are OK with spending $70 on games for it lmao. Within 3 games you're basically able to buy another switch! hahaha
>>631340467Switch has more (and better) games than the PS4 and PS5. You don't need to run fast to win a race, just faster than your competition.
>>631345545I only know Densha de Go on Switch, which is relatively simple to understand & play even if you don't know much of moonrunes (for example, orange bars/warnings mean a speed limit, while the blue ones are the recommended speed). Save for certain mission levels that require specific actions/objectives but there is a guide in english somewhere that can help you in any case.I had relatives & friends playing the game with the brake controller and we had fun with it.
Muh mascotsAnd Zelda is for normies who are too shit for Souls
>>631350937>People who are too shit for Dark SoulsFromsoft is catering to those people now too with Elden Ring.
>>631340258Switch became the Pokemon machine. That is the only reason.
>>631340258Better games and ton of Fan service games that Snoy and Microshit banned.
>>631351019>Elden Ring The game is still too hard for them even with the bell man
>>631351206Elden Ring is played by the same hype chasing normies that play Zelda man. Women play and beat Elden Ring regularly.
>>631340590>Resident Evil OutrageDoesn't exist LMFAO>Metroid Prime 4According to Retro's LinkedIn page they're still hiring people to work on it. We wont be seeing that until 2026.
>>631350694My Japanese is pretty good, I'm more just ignorant to how trains work but it seems manageable. Thanks.
What are some good styluses for the Switch?
It was out by itself with no competition. Now that it has actual competition it's losing hard.
>>631340258Tendies own like 3 switches each
>>631351941Now that you mention it, it looks even better for Nintendo that they won without a pro model specifically designed for double dipping like the PS4.
>>631351941i have 2 switches. 2 Ps4. 2 PS5. 3.PS3. 5 GC. 3 PS2. 1 Wii U.
>>631340258Pandemic animal crossing
>>631341258There's a demo.
>>631340258you can play it on the go
>>631351941For me, 1 retail, 1 used low serial# for homebrew.For all they know, I only have 1 and I don't cheat in online games.
Lots of quality games.
>>631343160External hard drive with USB Y cable or power supply for Wii U games and injects; SD card is needed to install software, for CFW, emulators, GameCube games and VWii.
>>631341003You know both Yuzu and Ryujinx can play anything on PC and, either way, most people can drop 250 bucks on this shit and then resell it, right? It's not prohibitively expensive like my RTX PC which runs MK8 Deluxe at 4K 120fps.
>>631351901cool pic but Playstation games aren't selling there in Japan so it's a moot point. If you care for japanese console vidya, you get a Switch. Even PC gaming has been gaining traction in the country of the rising sun.
>>631349304Switch Sports is apparently shit.
>>631355721Nope.
>>631340258>kids toyWork it out genius.
>>631348871It's a kids toy you understand kids don't play with their toys for long right?Parents buy it and it collects dust on a shelf.
>>631357265that explains why ps5 software is in the gutter
>>631340258Better games
>>631340258It keeps children quiet in the back seats of cars and they can't get groomed on discord with it.
Why are tendies acting like the Wii U wasn't the PS4s counterpart that sold worst than the Dreamcast?Switch is against the PS5, PS4 already won its gen meaning Sony have won 3/4 of their completed generations (dominantly too. PS1 mogged 64, PS2 mogged Gamecube, PS4 mogged Wii U)
>>631340258What exclusives does the switch have?
kek the angry resident snoy has entered the thread
>>631357265Why do childless people always say this? Kids play with both plastic toys like action figures and video game consoles just as much as they always have. They even like to be read to or read books on their own. They’re not constantly glued to YouTube or TikTok all day unless they have really bad parents.
>>631340258Library of strong exclusive IPs (even if the games themselves varied wildly in quality) and appealing to a portable-loving market. That being said they're clearly starting to huff their own farts at this point, charging $70 for TotK is batshit crazy. Kind of amazing how the company that's doing the best consistently fucks themselves over after a few years, like clockwork.
>>631350937The entire popularity of Dark Souls comes from normalfags being shit at video games. Did you forget the time where all of its marketing was "HAHA PREPARE TO DIE, HARDEST VIDEO GAME SERIES IN THE WORLD >:))))"
>>631358472>exclusive IPslollmao even
>>631358568Emulation doesn't really apply in this conversation, if you're tech savvy enough to emulate then you're probably not gonna own the console in the first place, so you wouldn't really give a shit about its sales. While you're discussing consoles, for all intents and purposes the IPs are exclusive to Nintendo hardware.
>Switch and Switch games dominating sales>Switch games so plentiful and good that PC fats had to invent a emulator to get and play them then snoys think this is some kind of epic gotcha moment >Still can easily talk about Switch games while snoys drop their game and pretend to ever like it once it goes multiplatform
>>631358836I don't give a fuck why or where it comes from BOTW is free on PC so its not exclusive to the switch.
>>631355560You know that the vast vast vast majority of the people in the gaming community don't emulate or pirate right? Remember that you need to stop treating the shit you see on /v/ as the normal. Also no one is buying and reselling Switches when they're easily available and thus people won't buy a marked up console. The only situation where this might happen is if you're reselling a V1 Switch for someone that wants to hack it. You're a fucking brainlet.
>>631340258Literally games.
>>631359010If you're talking about sales it is, unless you're implying every single person who emulated BotW bought a copy. Discussing emulation is pointless in a sales thread, especially if we're talking about how well the console and its games have sold. Clearly emulation hasn't put a dent in these numbers.
Is there any website with switch games library? that we can sort by genres etc
>>631359259Why would anyone but nintendo suits care about sales? I just want to play games. Are you personally invested in the particulars of nintendo's profits?
>>631359751>Why would anyone but nintendo suits care about sales?That's what the thread is literally about, anon. Did you even read the OP?
>>631359751>Why would anyone but nintendo suits care about sales?I somewhat care about sales of japanese third-party titles, that have been selling primarily on the Switch while Playstation is horribly lagging behind. This means that jap publishers are more likely to focus on the Switch for future projects.
It has games.Another day, another case of Switch's success mindbreaking /v/...
Which console would be ideal for me?>i hate nintendo>I hate Mario bros>I hate zelda>I hate Pokemon>console where it is impossible to play Nintendo video games>console with anti-Nintendo design> console with anti-nintendo controller
>>631364015Steam Deck, it’s perfect for placing your dick on it.
>>631364382I hate steam and i hate gabe newell
>>631364457XBox? It looks like a fridge.
>>631364015>i hate nintendo>I hate Mario bros>I hate zelda>I hate PokemonEasy.>console where it is impossible to play Nintendo video gamesActually impossible unless you forget emulation exists.>console with anti-Nintendo design>console with anti-nintendo controllerConsidering every modern analog controller is this frankenstein abomination of innovations created and incestuously shared by every hardware developer throughout history, also impossible. PC isn't a console, so keyboard and mouse are out. Looks you're stuck exclusively with touch screens, which means your only option is to lobotomize yourself and buy an iPhone (which is coincidentally a prerequisite for owning one, congrats).
>>631364564You can play Nintendo games on Xbox. >>631364015Playstation is the only option, specifically PS5 because PS4 has been hacked so you can run emulators on it.
omg you're telling me that the switch which is literally a consolidation of nintendos handheld and console platforms sold a lot of units.... omg I am so le SHOCKED :O
>>631365029>lego back