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how bad the game is

every single thing I've seen from this game has sucked hard, the UI, the art direction, the design of the armors, the MMO aspect, the microtransactions bs, not a single good thing about this pile of shit
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>>631333686
Sorry, not interested in your butthurt party. I don't discuss games I don't like.
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>>631333686
Diablo was never good. Farming Chaos Sanctuary for rune words is not gameplay. Its just a clicking simulator
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reminder of how the game looks at level 10
lmao
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>UI is shit
>dungeons are repetitive in tileset
>low monster density
>dungeons force you to do a lot of backtracking with retarded missions, should be just to find and kill the boss

dungeons being this SHIT is a huge red flag since they're supposed to be the main endgame activity
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I was watching an OG blizzard developer, he was telling about how the blizzard we knew is dead. The people and culture that created the classics are just no longer there we should let it rest in peace and stop expecting anything with soul out of blizzard. its just mobile style shitty games and hearthstone packs from now on
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>>631333973
Still hanging on to the theory they've done diablo immortal but for pc
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>>631334010
>they've done diablo immortal but for pc
pretty much the consensus so far
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>>631333996
I am waiting for new arpg from Morhime/Metzen company
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>>631334010
it's more like DI for consoles released on PC.
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>so many leggos have "+% basic attack dmg"
why
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>>631333970
What is the difficulty? The first difficulty option is tutorial level
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>>631333686
its good
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Path of Exile has such a dark tone to it. Fighting Dominus was amazing. especially when he came out the ground as this abomination. I expected that turns to 11 seeing as this was the Satanic of Satanic games.

There is absolutely no love in this game. The bosses are spongey with no mechanics are engagment. I can see clearly this was made for money and nothing else because they have done nothing to actually make it feel like a game. Its just a treadmill you're on rails for with random shit thrown in to make you feel like you some level of choice or variety
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>>631334318
Please give me your 1st 10 lines of code.
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Was this just an unrelated game that was rebranded to Diablo for the name recognition?
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>>631333686
Character creator is pretty robust.
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>>631333728
>+1 Rank of All Brawling Skills

Nice English
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>>631334278
torment(highest difficulty)
you can tell by the V in top right of screen
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>>631334393
I'll only be able to say it after I see my necromancer wife.
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>>631334379
I don't think so. They probably wanted to make scuffed Lost Ark in Diablo Immortal skin at best.
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I freaking love it!
It's a breath of fresh air while also reminding me of Diablo 2.
I'm starting to burn out on Diablo Immortal, so the June release is right up my alley.
Do we know if the battlepass comes out during early access?
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>>631333728
>long internal cooldowns on items
It's lovely how they carried the un-funness of WoW to all the rest of their games
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>>631334461
Huh. I thought they said there was some endgame boss you had to beat to unlock the 5th difficulty.
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>>631333686
>not a single good thing about this pile of shit
You are wrong. The game will sell 20-30 million copies and you will still be here crying.
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>>631334538
that screenshot was from the closed endgame beta test from awhile back
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>>631333973
>low monster density
Great way to expose that you only played the game for 2 hours.
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>>631334538
are you dumb? that webm is from the full endgame beta a couple of months ago
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>>631334561
>it will sell millions because its BIG BRAND from BIG COMPANY because normies don't know any better

Yeah. We know.
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>>631333686
Calm down poetard
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>>631333686
It’s a great game. v is just full of contrarians who only pretend to play shit games like PoE.
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>>631334561
so a good thing about this game is that it will sell a lot?
Can you respond with your 1st 10 lines of code?
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game feels super unfinished
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>>631333686
Don't even care to discuss it desu.
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>Play an early, unfinished version of the game
>Only access to act 1, the tip of the iceberg
>LE WHOLE GAME BAD
It's like calling Breaking Bad for a bad show 5 minutes into episode 1.
Grow the fuck up!
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>>631334687
I could mention a bunch of good things about this game, but you people aren't even interested in actual discussions of the game. You're just looking to hate on a game.
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>>631334794
The game is 3 months away you turbo retard. What you're seeing in the beta is what you're going to get.
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>>631334650
There isn’t any better. Blizzard games are unironically still peak vidya. Most criticism I read on this board is just nonsense or extreme nitpicking.
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>>631333686
>still needs online for muh single player treadmill grinding simulator
lol no
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>>631334810
Fix your bot retards.
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>>631334794
Just imagine playing half of Act 1 in Diablo 2 and then claiming that the entire game is garbage. That's what these "people" are unironically doing.
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>>631334497
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>>631334794
>i-i-it's only a beta!
we've never heard that one before, blizzdrone
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>>631334837
>Max level is 25 out of 100
>Act 1 of 4 acts
>In a genre where the fun is at end-game
>Access to only a few of the 150 dungeons
>No paragon boards
>No sigils
>No battlepass yet
>Quarter of a year until release
>B-bro its finished.......
Shut up already
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>>631333686
I can't stay on the main menu or my GPU overheats lol, I have buttery smooth performance during all gameplay (with like 10-20% usage max on both GPU and CPU and accompanying near-silent fans) but the menu must have uncapped FPS or something because my fans sound like they're trying to break away from Earth's gravitational pull if I sit on the menu for more than 10 seconds.
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>>631334872
>bot
>bot
>bot
You're a retarded schizo. Let me guess, you also frequent /x/ and /pol/.
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I'm looking forward to the cope when the game actually releases. Enjoy buying the "fixed" version next year, just like you did for Diablo 3.
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>>631334794
Do you really think the core gameplay is gonna change?
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>>631334885
In diablo 2 you have access to a third of the skills during act 1. In Diablo 4 we've access to literally all active skills in the game. We also got access to dungeons, world events, and world bosses which is confirmed to be the end game of Diablo 4.
Keep shitposting and defending your piss.
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>i-it's just act 1

Act 1 is the best and most memorable part of D2. Not an excuse.
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>>631335005
i literally have no memorable scene in my head after finishing the beta
not a single

>come stay a while
is so memorable
but i have not seen a single one in this game
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I can’t wait to buy the battle pass to show /v/ and watch the imminent meltdown
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>>631334794
Barely anything changes with these previews. What we see is set in stone and nothing will change because blizzard knows it will sell anyway

>>631334869
>Activision """"""blizzard""""""
>peak vidya

Shut the fuck up. Blizzard doesn't exist. You're just fed a shitty corporate product from people that have barely anything to do with Blizzard or Diablo at this point.
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>>631334917
>Access to only a few of the 150 dungeons
This one always cracks me up especially if you've done dungeons in the beta because you know they're half-assed copy pasted.
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>>631334926
Set the background FPS cap to whatever you want and then alt+tab out of the game.
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>>631334742
This, I don't have access because I don't pre-order anything anymore, but watched some streams, already bored of watching it.
Doesn't seem to be doing any innovating, just more of the same.
People are praising the visuals, but they seems pretty bland too. The aethetics don't remind me much of Diablo at all, unless you have a very basic understanding of those games and just think turned down saturation = diablo, D2 was quite flamboyant and colorful at times.

I think the game looks more like the Witcher 3 than Diablo 2, in terms of visuals.
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>>631334951
Don't you have to do any damage control on:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/
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I'm about to play this for the first time, what am I in for?
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>>631335056
>I can't wait to consume product to piss off a bunch of anonymous letters on my screen who forget my existence the moment I stop posting

Retard
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>>631334965
>In Diablo 4 we've access to literally all active skills in the game
Except that you haven't seen any uniques or ancestral items. You know, the items that will be build defining and are basically like the skill runes in D3.
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>>631334794
this is blizzard we are talking about so yeah le whole game bad
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>>631335005
You don't have to make up shit to make D4 look bad. There are plently of other things. D2 Act1 was weak as fuck.
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>>631334501
immune bubble is pretty busted + imagine x4 of that effect in any party.
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>>631335130
Its okay if you just beat Normal and shelve it. The loot and rng autism is too cringe on Hell difficulty
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>>631335130
play sorc or summoning necro or you're gonna have a bad time
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>>631335170
That doesn't disprove what I just wrote. Items in the game like uniques alter skills however we've LITERALLY used all the active skills in the beta.
Just because there's a rune that permanently changes something like call of the ancients for barbarian to be up 100% doesn't mean it's a new skill.
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>>631335170
>ancestral

Literally just the same items with better stats
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>>631335115
wtffff
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>>631335130
censored character models
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>>631335170
>ancestral items.
these are just items with higher item level
lmao
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>>631334726
yes and that's only act 1, now imagine how little work they have done beyond that
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>>631333686
The skills don't feel balanced. Why would I ever choose lightning spear over hydra? Or other defensive skills when ice armor offers temp immunity + mana regen?
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>play beta, designed to be incredibly captivating so people buy the game
>not too engaged
>"WOW YOU ONLY PLAYED 2 HOURS, IMAGINE IF YOU PLAYED D2 ACT 1 AND QUIT THERE THEN CALLED THE GAME BAD, PLUS IT'S JUST A BETA"
>act 1 of D2, also known as the most famous starting zone released in that era
>captivating enough that it convinced millions to keep playing the game for 20+ years
>meanwhile D4 will release in a few months, and nothing will change outside of performance and stat values

i realize now that most people talking here haven't played D2 on release day, so they simply don't know what they're missing out on
it's disappointing.
anyway old blizzard is done and i will not buy this game
do not bother replying to my post
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OBJECTIVE REALITY

The good:
>combat is improved version of d3, which has the best combat in the genre
>art style is good, combination of d1,d2 and realism

The bad:
>UI: Horrific UI design, from art style to button placements, almost everything is bad
>lack of options: little to no personalization of UI, basic control schemes are not present (move+interact button) etc.
>Talents: it seems to be a slightly better d2 in terms of talents, which means there are less options than d3
>Systems: from what we know and from the leaked footage, systems seem to boil down to exactly what d3 is with slightly more variety in terms of bounties(aka events)
>Numbers: Stupidly inflated numbers right off the start.
>You have 100k gold when you get to level 20. You're doing 1k per hit around level 20, which means we'll be hitting at minimum hundreds of thousands at max level, millions more likely.
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>>631335170
fair point on uniques but ancestral items are just legendaries with ilvl 70+
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>Play Diablo 1
>It's fun right from the start

>Play Diablo 4
>It's shit
>>631334794
>>631334917
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>>631335223
you mean the game is unbeatable on higher difficulties unless you farm specific OP gear from certain bosses?
>>631335243
are they the most fun classes or just the most OP? I was gonna play Paladin
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I just can't deal with the insane battle pass shit. Just because of that I'm never touching D4.
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>>631335395
The cutscenese are mostly cringeworthy
Theyre trying to hard to incorporate ingame cinematics with their cinematic style
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>>631334794
>just like d3 where the gameplay from A1 was totally different than what you saw in A2-A4
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>>631335281
>however we've LITERALLY used all the active skills in the beta.
No, you haven't.
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>>631335145
>confirming that it will upset you
Lol!
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>>631335296
It's just like my hecking Diablo 1!
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>>631334794
Dishonest take. 1 act = 1 episode
First episode of Breaking Bad was great.
Go fuck yourself.
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>>631333728
healthysisters..
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>>631335419
characters that require you to have a strong weapon isnt very fun to play. also hitting and chasing down each enemy one by one with your sword while you're missing half of your attacks is not as fun as spells that target several enemies and dont have a miss chance.

you can also play trap assassin or elemental druid
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>>631333970
that will be 90$+40$ yearly
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>>631335424
>I just can't deal with the insane battle pass shit
What insane battle pass shit? You can just ignore the premium battle pass entirely.
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>>631335296
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>>631335514
yes we did, you unlock everything up to ultimates when reaching 23 skill point cap
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>diablo 4 endgame
>run the same 150 random dungeons on higher difficulties
>run the same world events as you're doing in the beta
>run helltide which are just world events with more difficult monsters
>loot your world tree cache
>run your weekly world boss
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>>631335594
intriguing, I'll check out elemental druid, might end up playing Necromancer. I did a summoning build in Grim Dawn and it was pretty fun
Thanks anon
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anyone ITT who played the close alpha and can tell us a bit more about endgame?
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>>631334794
barely over 2 months until release. That's enough time to add one button somewhere and fix some of the network issues
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>>631334096
>tranime
opinion discarted
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>>631333686
Better than 3, worse than 2. But like 3 I can play local co op with my wife. It just needs an offline option since I don't ever play with randoms and I don't feel like waiting 20 fucking minutes to play a local game. D2R had that option, so why is this bullshit online only?
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>>631335397
uniques are also just legendaries with higher stats unless I'm missing something on these item descriptions?? how is this not simply a legendary item?
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>>631335773
Network issues in a game that shouldn't be always online................................
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>>631335802
>come to anime forum
>complain about anime
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>>631334615
Name one place with acceptable density
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>>631335419
Don't listen to the other guy, Paladin is a great starting class.
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>>631335859
>with my wife
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>>631334501
I dunno but it sure helped me kill the ice stronghold dude. Too bad restoring the shrine or whatever kicked me out of the game, which was the last thing I wanted to do. Fuck it I'm going to bed it's almost 8am.
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>>631333970
Blizzbros, there are no valid responses.
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>>631335901
The reason its always online is to verify the game files against the server, including your saves.
It's to stop people from cheating in items/cosmetics and making them pay out the ass for it instead.
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>>631335419
>you mean the game is unbeatable on higher difficulties unless you farm specific OP gear from certain bosses?
Depends on your build. There’s enemies that are immune to to certain things. You’ll probably have to gear a merc if you’re soloing
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>>631335879
That's from pre-alpha. Look in the bottom right.
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>>631335879
Man that left one looks like the worst dogshit I've ever seen.
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>>631335324
good thing you can switch to the classic graphics on a whim and see the original character models in all their pixelated glory
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>>631335030
this is the only thing I can think of really and its not even that great
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>>631335879
You can't extract their power, also the affixes aren't random rolls (Mad Wolf's Glee will always have strength, max life, dodge and reduction)
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>>631335879
Unique stat can only be found on that unique. Like "poison is no longer DoT" you can get only from Kilt of the Plaguebringer.
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>>631335859
Also I was a Barbarian and she was the Rogue and I died more than her even though I'm supposed to be a "tank." The Rogue (Demonhunter) is overpowered to hell. It's basically just a full auto rifle and land mine class. Like holy hell if Diablo had to follow the Geneva Convention, the fucking Rogue would be breaking all of them. Barbarian needs to be buffed and Rogue needs to be nerfed. Shit was ridiculous.
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Overall, I really like it. I have some complaints, but I enjoy it a lot more then I did 3 so far. Going back to a darker tone, with the D1/D2 classes feels much better. The music and art are fantastic so far.

My big gripes are the UI is shit, the font doesn't match the game at all, and the dungeons are repetitive. The boss fights are good and I am glad they reset hp when you die so you actually have to beat them instead of just taking 100 portals like you did in D2, but they repeat so often and the dungeons seem to only have two conditions of like find key, or kill all mobs.

The talent trees are a mixed bag. I am glad I feel a bit more "locked into" my spec, im not changing it every time I find gear to just use what that gear boosted, like in D3. There doesn't feel like there are too many options though.

The world boss was cool. Was decently challenging, even when we did down it we were very close on the timer. Id rather it have some set items it can drop that are unique to it, rather then just shitting out 10 legendaries though.

Overall I am pretty excited to play it, and if endgame gets boring I can just go back to PoE and play D4 when it gets new seasons.
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>>631336058
yeah but why would you buy the remake if the new graphics are censored and you have to switch to the old ones?
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>>631335928
Every dungeon I ran at 25 had pretty good mob density, to the point that sometimes I was even able to gather 3-4 elites + 50 mobs and blast them all at once.
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>>631335395
>>Talents: it seems to be a slightly better d2 in terms of talents,
show me your D4 werebear sorceress or shut the fuck up

retards who say d2 has shallow build diversity are the people to kill baal in normal and retire the game at level 30, you have no concept of what you're trying to preach
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>>631336156
Werebear sorceress comes mostly from items though and not the tree
We still have uniques from 25-100 to uncover and experiment with.
That combined with the skill tree + paragon board + sigils will lead to more build diversity than d2
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>>631335913
Video game website.
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>>631336145
I like the new updated graphics, the model changes are inconsequntial to me as the characters just looked like a jumble of pixels in the original anyway
I'm playing Diablo to click on monsters and collect loot, not oogle the character models
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>>631333686
I put on some terribly made diablo 2 blood moor youtube video with bad sound, and just closed my eyes and listened to the total superiority of the sound design. These games have bad fundamentals (because they were from a year when quake 1 was the cutting edge of 3d graphics), but d1 and d2 made every mindless little action supremely satisfying and totally enveloped you in the dark hellish atmosphere. But we're not in 1996 anymore, and there are no technical limitations, the game should be so much more than borderline mindless clicking, and this time they didn't even get the sound design right (it's way too tinny and the music is lame and gay)
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>>631334794
the game is out in 3 months and the current beta is basically exactly the same as the first alpha was, apart from the cutscenes being finished. There will be no significant changes before release.
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>>631336403
>There will be no significant changes before release
tell that to blizzdrones shilling this game
saying "oh but its a beta theyll fix" it over and over
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I don't get it, how do you even get the beta? Is it a streamer thing only right now? I actually wanted to try it to have an opinion on the gameplay
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>>631336448
You order a Double Down sandwich from your KFC
No, I'm not shitting you
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>>631336271
i understand but that doesn't excuse them making it look like shit on purpose
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>>631336368
>and this time they didn't even get the sound design right (it's way too tinny and the music is lame and gay)
Not sure what's wrong with your ears and/or setup, but playing a Barbarian makes everything have a HUGE amount of bass and general "oomph". I haven't had any hint of anything that sounds remotely "tinny".
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>>631333686
>man gets seduced by a succubus and flayed alive by her, when his wife discovers she stabs him in the chest and spits on his corpse
>man gets bribed and gets iron maiden'ed into a battle armor to bleed to death
>Inarius is impulsive, stupid and narrow minded
>Lorath is portrayed as an asshole with a past full of sins, will most likely die during the campaign.
>male church officials are portrayed as retarded, fanatical and insane

Meanwhile

>woman performs illegal exorcisms instead of burning possessed people, gets possessed herself after making the MC lie to the church, gets a slap in the wrist (because the man you deceived is too much of a coward to turn her in)
>new main story mary sue literally performs necromancy on the corpse of her mother and literally nothing goes wrong
>Lilith is portrayed as intelligent, cunning, always one step ahead of everyone, a loving mother, etc
>women of the church are portrayed as pious, faithful, powerful and intelligent
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Day 1 patch will fix everything just pre-order
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>>631336448
Next weekend is open beta. You can try it then.
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>>631336156
>d2 grandpa can't read
it's okay grandpa, it's time for a nap now
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>>631334337
People shit on the PoE story/lore but i always thought it was great
>postapocalyptic rome/australia invaded by maoris with an even older apocalyptic aztec civilization
It's good and comfy
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>>631336472
is that really how they're distributing keys? I thought it was just a one time local promotion
also, I'm a veggie kek
>>631336567
ah neat, thanks anon
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>>631336539
shut the fuck up
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>>631335130
It's a great game if you've got some time on your hands. If you follow builds I doubt you'll have a good experience
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how pozzed is it?
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>>631336652
no
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>>631336492
I didn't play it yet, it's what i hear in videos. But then shitty windowsmoviemaker diablo 2 videos still sound amazing even when the audio is lamer than a niggers baby
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>>631336480
it certainly doesn't, but I don't think it's fair to brush off the entire game just because of one mistake on the developers part that is pretty much inconsequntial to the gameplay itself
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>>631336448
Preorder or KFC, next weekend is open beta. This weekend also only has Rogue Sorc and Barb, next weekend adds druid and necro.
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>>631336740
see
>>631336539
Also all male rogue presets look like trannies
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>>631336740
>>631336539
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>>631336816
>Also all male rogue presets look like trannies
post some
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>>631336740
Doesn't seem particularly pozzed so far, aside from one of main priests in the act1 storyline is black, bald and female. On the other hand, nipples and cocks of tortured victims are on display, pic related.
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>>631336804
can you pre DL it, anon?
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>>631334794
>It's like calling Breaking Bad for a bad show 5 minutes into episode 1
Except 5 minutes into Breaking Bad its already a great show
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>>631336740
if you avoid character select screen garbage, not so much, for now
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>>631336861
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Diablo 4 may be better than Diablo 3 include: a darker and more mature art style, the return of skill trees for more customized character builds, an open-world design that allows for exploration, improved storytelling, and a return to the series' roots with a slower and more methodical pace. However, opinions on game quality can be subjective, and individual preferences and gameplay experiences will ultimately determine whether one game is better than the other.
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>>631336947
Not sure, I know the preorder one had a pre download on Wednesday, you could check on battlenet. Just go to D4 and there is a drop down menu near purchase that should have beta. If not, I imagine it will come out mid week again.
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>>631337163
What the actual fuck?? Why do dthey look so bad
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>>631334794
except if breaking bad was filmed on an 80s handheld camera, constantly out of focus, and you could almost never hear the dialogue
>dOn'T jUdGe A bOoK bY iT's CoVeR
it's pure slop of the goy variety
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>>631334481
made for mascara-running facefucks
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>>631337163
it seems that all males look like shit for some reason; barbarians are comical
women actually look pretty decent
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>>631337308
>for some reason
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>>631337163
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>>631337308
EVERY male character looks like a tranny
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>>631337308
The character creator in general is pretty shitty. For a feature they showed off quite a lot, and early, I was expecting something much better.
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>Day 2 lvl 25 characters have full legendaries
GG
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>>631337167
Thank you AI-chan
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>>631337445
100% its the same creator from immortal
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>>631337510
Legendaries now are just fodder items to have their powers extracted
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>>631337167
tell me a joke about women
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>>631337510
gotta keep the normies on an endorphin drip somehow
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>>631337406
holy shit that's literally the gamestop ma'am
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>>631337580
>Legendaries now are just fodder
GG
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>>631337163
Looks like Raid Shadow Legends characters lmfao. It's fucking WILD that people will defend this shit.
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>>631337351
well yea, usually you expect them to turn women into disgusting dykes of la creatura, but not the case this time, seems to be the other way around
which is a better outcome desu
>>631337445
not to excuse them for lackluster amount of options, but it's still best in the genre lmao
arpgs are so dogshit
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>>631337510
Common -> Magic -> Rare -> Legendary -> Unique -> Ancestral.

Not sure why they did it this way though, seems a bit weird.
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>muh endgame
If only they had the courage to make the highly controversial design choice of making their game an actual full-fledged game right from level 1, instead of making the player sleepwalk through hours and hours of tutorial and garbage-tier lore until they're allowed to have fun.
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>>631337687
>Unique
Remember only 1 unique item per character so it's not a "real" rarity
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>>631334561
you know what else sold 20-30 million copies?
mein kampf.
bet you feel silly right now.
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>>631337406
>EVERY male character looks like a tranny
Yeah, i'd say only about 20% of the character options will allow you to make a non pozzed character. This game was in development when making ugly characters was at its peak.
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>>631337762
hopes...
restored
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>>631337580
so why call them legendary?
there's nothing legendary about that
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>>631337818
ima play a female char
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only trannies play female characters
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>>631337849
Because they have legendary affixes that you can extract and put them on good rare items? It was literally the reason why they changed their names from Unique
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>>631333686
From what I've played of the beta I liked it. Question though am I going to have to log in every time I play or was that just for the beta?
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>>631334869
>There isn’t any better. Blizzard games are unironically still peak vidya
yeah peak clown shit,peak fall from grace.
there is not a single company in the history of companies to have such a huge shift in the quality of both the products and the workers as blizzard had.
someone should just put that company down out of mercy already because it hurts me to see it right now as a former fan.
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It genuinely upsets me that Blizzard can be this shit and yet people keep buying their bullshit. Its a watered down ARPG given the price tag and expectations of this being the fourth game in a series. Not to mention in a genre that is largely solo always online, cash shops, mounts and a fucking battle pass.
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>>631337890
>>631337163
>he'd rather play as a tranny than a woman
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>select screen
>everyone is a nigger
>randomly check intro because i'm ignoring it
>its a nigger
fuck you too blizzard
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>>631337752
Also they look like rare items with 1 line of text that would have been a passive node in Last Epoch
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>>631337994
wait until you see the russians, asians, and the one trans guy
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Elden ring is more like diablo 4 than this game
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>>631334794
Unironically this. Which is why Im not deciding wether or not I want to buy the game until the first season comes out.
This also makes me not have to deal with the faggotry of people paying 20$ to get a 4 day headstart
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>>631337994
wait until you realize all men are useless/greedy/retarded/evil and all women are intelligent/strong/courageous/good, even the main villain who is literally slaughtering everyone (mostly males)
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>>631338017
saw someone that looked like an arab
also
>i'm corrupted?
i dont know how i manage to always find the most retarded shit while ignoring 90% of blizzard texts
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>>631338024
>fromshitter feels the need to bring up his Fromslop in a thread that doesn't concern Fromsoft games
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>>631337923
Why not call them something like affex items and let legenderies be more, you know, legendary?
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>>631338093
>b-but it's just a beta
>b-but it's just the first season
>b-but it's just vanilla
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It's good.
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>>631333686
Is it still a consolized and gamepad'fied non-Diablo game?
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>>631338147
Blizzard, are, shit, devs.

How many instances of evidence do you need?
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>>631338207
think diablo immortal but a bit more polished
and i mean that unironically
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>>631333686
I didn't expect to like it so much
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>>631338108
inb4 the main char this time isn't corrupted
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d2 acts tier list
I > III (you didn't get filtered by great marsh did you) > II > V > IV
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>>631338174
Bro I dont care if it turns out shit. Im just saying I want to see the full game before I decide.
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uhh bros?
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>damage over time
>core skills
>overpower damage bonus
>critical damage bonus
>crowcontrol damage bonus
>upgrading a shitty rare costs a metric fuck ton
I have no fucking idea what any of this shit means on the items and what to keep
im tired
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>>631338129
>dark fantasy ARPG where you run around killing monsters in an open world
It's the same concept except diablo 4 is a utterly shameless skinner box with bad combat.
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>>631338415
My names earl
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>>631338321
What makes it like immortal? Gameplay wise?
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>>631338129
>I have a small white penis
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>>631338207
I don't need any, I'm not playing this shitty genre. I just like to point and laugh at stupidity.
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>>631338421
>gets filtered by a level 25 beta
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>>631338489
ui, gameplay, animations
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>>631338108
this wouldn't be bad thing if you get a harem of women as a male character
and also fuck the female main villain into submission
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>>631334885
Act 1 of diablo 2 is what convinced millions of players to keep playing, meanwhile from the first minutes this game is Diablo Immoral 2
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>>631333686
Besides looking like shit and having crappy loot they also ruined the really good smooth gameplay of diablo 3.
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>>631337163
>switch to lowest setting
>put on gayest looking customization
>farm (you)s
You literally beat me to it
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>>631338321
Health globes were obvioulsy invented for Diablo 3 because of gamepads. Also, are there any spells that require fast targeting on the ground? Because we all know analog sticks can't do that. If such spells are absent then it's naturally gamepad'ified.
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>takes forever to kill anything that isn't trash
dead on arrival
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>all those cutscenes
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>>631338594
dillate
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>>631338516
yeah the same shitty dungeons dont help me prOOOOOOgress either
lvl25 barb
im tired
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>>631338746
>wait while i talk bullshit you don't care
>so you can finish/start the quest
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>>631333686
>Discuss
Game is focused/developed for consoles first = game is trash.
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>>631338757
lmao thanks retard
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>>631338358
Cohh carnage said D4 is amazing.
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Is Diablo a sexy girl demon now?
Asking for a friend
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>>631338746
theyre trying really hard
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>>631338932
who
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>>631338932
hey brotherman
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>>631338945
yes, and guess what? CORRUPTION!
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>>631338945
Diablo is not there at all so its fine I guess but hey, at least you have cheap, uninspired replacement in form of Lilith with (gender neutral body?) that is 70$ + tip.
Diablo will come in paid dlc for 50$
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This beta test is better than the entirety of pre RoS D3.
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>>631339140
anything is better than the whole d3 crap
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every german Diablo player right now listens to satanic rap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL7XqkW68Q0
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>nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger
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There'll be no expansions for this game. Each seasonal battle pass will come with a new region/area, like a mini-expansion. You can either pay to have access to it immediately, or grind your way through the free pass to unlock the new area.
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>>631339269
>a literal negromancer
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I'm fine with the art and gameplay. It's the story that just seems ass.
They needed to hire some demented fucks, possibly some heavy metal music video director or lyricist or something like that. Instead they probably have a team of video game writers.
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>>631339269
>>631339364
wakanda forever lmao
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>>631339269
nigarian
negromancer
nigzard/sorcneger
nogue
drunig
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>>631339312
>pro consumer move from blizz
lol no
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>>631339312
Sounds pretty based if true
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>>631338358
A2 is the comfiest

>>631339269
WE
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>>631338746
Can you at least skip them?
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>>631339106
>in the end it turns out the plan she had all along was to teach hummies about tolerance and inclusivity and how to not misgender trans people.
Lets be honest its modern California, just like in Marvel movies a female character cannot be beaten by white male player, xe'll turn out to be a good after all and people will love it.
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>>631339443
if its like d3 . even the skip option is shit
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>>631339443
yes, but currently there is a bug that prevents you from skipping anything. randomly activates idk, it's not always present
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>>631339269
there's no way this is real. this is what the select screen looks like if you create 5 nigger characters, right
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>>631333686
Game is amazing so far, I absolutely love the combat and running dungeons or doing open world events. At the current level they're actually challenging at times, especially when not running a sorc.

I just wish it had more skills for every character. It's kinda limited rn.
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>>631338746
I heard one guy shill
>It's an open world and you can traverse everything without loading screens
....
me seconds later in game
>enter dungeon
>get loading screen
ooook
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>>631336539
>new main story mary sue literally performs necromancy on the corpse of her mother and literally nothing goes wrong
Dont forget she learned how from a book 5 minutes prior
Also main church head is noggtress
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>>631339542
how the fuck did i create a negromancer?
anyway this is my only character . and i made it after that screenshot
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>>631339606
ok tranny
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>>631334396
Sir...
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>>631339651
>making a sorcesses
>male
fuck off retarded shill
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>>631333728
>307 item power
????????????????
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>>631339407
>Here is your *dark* medieval high fantasy game bro
>what? Gameplay is as bright and colorful as Diablo 3? Well, we just took diablo 3 and reshaded it that is 70$+ tip, don't forget to visit cash shop
>btw, by grim dark we meant more black people included in game, you know, someone has to clean up after these white devils messed up,
>x0x0 love you acti dev team, #blacklivesmatter <3
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>>631339542
It loads random each time with Whites and chinks as well. It's not like the game forces you to play as a nog. This is how you know the game is going to be good. People can only complain about the font and nogs on the character creation.
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>>631339723
>we heard you liked gearscore (the worst adition to wow ever)
>so we added it to diablo :)
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>>631334726
Yeah I get that impression, too. The open world feels so shitty and repetitive. I really wanted to like this game, too, and I was pretty hyped because I'm a dumbass.
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>>631338358
3 only gets good in lower kurast
there's a reason why everyone buys a teleport staff to skip the jungle shit
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>>631339784
they hyped up traveling the world so much in the trailers
and now its just the same immortal style tileset bullshit
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>>631333686
Holy FUCK the PoE trannies are having a meltdown, you love to see it. D4 is the best ARPG on the market atm, tranny, cope, seethe and dilate. No amount of same fagging on 4chan and impotent cuck rage will change that.
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>>631339723
its like a summary of how good the total item is roughyl
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>>631339542
there is a certain % chance that a character on select screen is a nigger
if "stars allign" all of them will roll the nigger variant, and that's how you end up with that screen
but I wouldn't be surprised if the chance for full nigteam is higher

also surprise, little to no asians, their arguably biggest demographic, funny, really.
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>>631339770
D2 had way brighter and colorful maps than what we've seen of D4 so far.
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>>631339828
>if you dont like this shit you must like this other shit
hello fellow shill
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>>631339870
>biggest demographic
Blizzard china is no more ano
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>>631339606
Did you intentionally make a shitty looking character or do you just have taste that bad?
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>>631339774
>It loads random each time
so soulless. They're supposed to be real characters. Let people customize if they want, but they should've created 5 defaults that become part of the canon. very gay.
>This is how you know the game is going to be good.
depends how much online shit is forced and how good the story is. also if the music is good or cinematic forgettable shit
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>>631339723
item's total stats power summed up via number
it's for campaign andys that play through it once or twice and quit
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>>631339998
>how good the story is
anon I have bad news
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People keep saying it looks good (and I somewhat agree), but from what I can tell from the videos/screenshots, its just darker looking diablo 3? All of the items look the same, the UI buttons look the same, damage numbers, health-bars, lifeorbs etc look the same.
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>>631339916
they are working on getting back into the china with another partner
also:
>what is korea, vietnam, taiwan, malasia etc.
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Quin is the only person I know that has a two digit IQ with a comma dividing them.
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>>631339870
Asians, North American Indians, asian Indians, Arabs, Africans are not diverse enough. Only American nigger matters, oh and white people have to be humiliated by being trans or effeminated. I love modern racist actiblizz
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>>631339935
i love that type of hair
anyway it looked better with that shit on her eyes than without it
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>>631338358
Its actually I = V > IV > Beginning of Act II > End of Act III > End of Act II > Beginning of Act III
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>>631340163
who
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>>631339897
but we have a day/night cycle
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>>631340116
they don't look the same, they are just the same thing
its more realistic, coupled with grittyness of d1 and d2
I wish UI buttons looked half as good as d3, they are garbage in d4
health bars are also very different, just positioned the same, why would you complain about this
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>>631339897
That is what diverse environments are supposed to be, in D4 they just took D3 (or more likely diablo Immortal) turned brightness to 0 and called it a day.
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>>631340384
why is it so fucking desaturated
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>>631339870
>also surprise, little to no asians, their arguably biggest demographic
Asians don't fit the modern agenda because they are fucking successful and not white.
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>>631336058
>he doesnt know
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>>631340384
fellow qwer enjoyer
my pot is on 2 tho, easier to reach with middle finger than move ring finger sideways to 1
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>>631340384
>thats supposed to be day
why is so fucking...dusty?
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>>631340482
So is it too bright or too dark? It seems to change based on the argument. We've only played this one area.

>>631340651
This is the snowy mountain area.
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>>631333970
why did arpgs turn from dungeon crawlers to zoom zoom
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>>631340651
look in the top right corner. the area is called Dust Valley
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>>631340501
asians prefer white characters though
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>>631340974
why does everything need an explanation? You don't need text to explain what horse armor is
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>>631333686
UI at least on console is pretty dumb and the fonts are atrocious, but the 3D part is kino. I'm only level 10 right now but I'm excited to see where the potion crafting system goes.
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>>631340651
>So is it too bright or too dark?
The argument has always been that the artstyle sucks. Act 2 in D2 isn't dark when you're outside at daytime and why should it be?
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>>631334794
>Game comes out on X date!
>But if you pay more you get to play early!

The game is out anon. I'm sick of retards who don't understand this, though these people are probably shills.
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>>631339454
this is what I'm most curious about the story
how do rabid atheist progressives create a coherent story that's based on Christian/Catholic themes (Angels & Demons) without siding with demons?
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>>631340974
Everytime I hear horse armor I'm getting oblivion flash backs
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>nailed it with D2R other than some of the character models
>everyone thought maybe they would learn a few lessons from remastering it
>instead we get d3.5 and lost arks child
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>>631341405
d2r was not made by blizzard
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>>631341405
lost ark western launch was one of the reasons why d4 was delayed and reworked, they wanted to see how people react to open world arpg
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>>631341465
>d2r was not made by blizzard
That's why it didn't suck
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>drops are fixed on the class you're playing
but why, this shit was bad already in d3
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>>631335913
based
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>>631341534
because there is no trading. little timmy wont want to get a sorceress drop on his necromancer. however if trading was in the game you could trade a sorceress the item for a necro item. which is odd because they went the psuedo mmo route but dont put in a feature like trading
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A lot of people seem to really love this game but I find it dreadfully boring. I was hyped for it, too. Am I just mindbroken by D2 and have shit taste or is everyone just caught up in the hype? Reddit and Blizz forums are like 99% positive which is rare as fuck for them.
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>>631341689
what are you talking about? I saw a trade chat in the beta footage I saw
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>>631341534
>>631341689
it's 90/10 and it's good
trade fags need to go away and play their web browser game
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>>631341527
>>631341465

But it could be better if not activision quality control of product.
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>>631341768
trade chat is literally just their name for general chat. there is no trading gear.
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>>631341768
People just used that to complain about the game. No one traded at all
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>>631341836
that can't be real. that's fucking retarded.
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>>631341689
>No trading in an ARPG
Why do they force that shit down your throat. It literally ruins the game. Im fine with everything else but no trading makes me not want to play it
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>>631333728
>4.0%
>2.0%
>4.0%
>90 seconds cooldown
HOLY SHIT THAT'S THE GOOD STUFF BRO.
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>>631341725
not true, just looking at reddit now and 4 out of 10 top posts are pure negative feedback
2 are asking for options, 4 are s0i bois positivity "omg so good im level 10 btw"
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>>631341882
i imagine it works like d3 did in that you CAN trade with people who were in your party at the time the item dropped, but other than that no trading just between everyone. as to why they decided to have a trade chat when there is no free trade i have no idea
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Playing Grim Dawn for the first time since some anon rec'd it for someone with little experience in the genre. I'm liking it so far as a casual time killer. Are any of the DLC worth it? Or does it turn into super tryhard stuff.
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>>631333728
Wtf is item power
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Just do everybody and yourself a favor and dont buy the game on release. Dont let FOMO get to you.
Wait to see how the full game is and what people think of it, then you can always start when season 1 starts. Dont let them walk away with your $70 for a shitty product.
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>>631342109
Goodness
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>>631342092
ashes of malmouth and forgotten gods expansions are good
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>>631342092
Some are really huge and add a ton of playtime to the game. It took me around 50 hours just to finish the campaign once with them all installed and I was playing steady
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>>631338147

Who the fuck cares? You are grasping at straws for things to be mad about
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>>631333970
Even Immortal has a better UI.
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>>631341778
I'm not a tradecuck, but I do have issues with class fixed drops, if I'm struggling with one class because I got unlucky with good drops but I got good drops for other classes instead, it gives me an incentive to start a different class and push further and maybe get drops for my main class which can improve on my build more.
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>>631333802
Diablo 3 was unironically the most fun Diablo game for me late game because of the set variety.
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>>631340936
Too many games out there.
People just wanna move from one game to the next, and you can't do that with a detailed in-depth system.
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Trade?? If you could trade you'd have no incentive to run dungeons all day to see numbers go up. Trade bad!
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>>631342259
>tradecuck
What the fuck is this supposed to mean lmao. Nobody can possibly think that trading makes an online rpg worse
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>>631335894
>only 25+32+13 minion
lmao https://youtu.be/wzegU2UCpyk?t=60
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>>631342259
anon, it would feel 100 times worse to get half the drops that are not for you
why would I want sorc items when I dont plan to play it, ever.
there is a way to gear up alts easily, just like in d3
crafting and currency is account wide
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>>631342382
>temporary minions
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Only slightly related but you should know they literally made OW 2 a worse version of OW 1 and made it so you cannot play OW 1(A game people paid for) again.
I guarantee you this will happen to this game in a year or two.
Do not support these kikes
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>>631342358
I'm just saying that I'm not against trading, because I play mostly ssf.
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>>631337818
We are still at the peak, anon. It will never stop, it will only accelerate.
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>i preordered to try beta
>i regret it deeply
whats blizzards refund policy? am i fucked? did i just get scammed out of 75 dollars?
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>>631342358
yes it does, because you cucks play web browser trading game instead of playing the actual game
how deluded do you have to be to think spending time outside the game browsing a fucking auction house is better than just playing the game some more

and then you d2/poe andys have the gall to mock d4's mmo elements while screaming about more mmo elements (trading)
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>>631342145
>>631342182
Cool thank you, i'll probably pick them up them.
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>>631336539
Is it really this pozzed?
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>>631342584
LOL
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>>631341889
Its because people are fucking morons, especially people who fell for D4 scam scheme. Imagine losing a good paypig who paid 100$ for the game, 97$ for collectors edition, 10$ for battle pass and bought some cosmetics in cash shop because some *loser* tricked him and traded something useless for his precious item. Blizzard can't let it happen, that is why we have smart individual loot, limited trading and shared world in the first place.
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>>631336539
>man bad
>woman strong and good!

i HATE this recurring theme,that shit is sexist
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>>631342584
>sorry tehee you got loot in other games so we cant refund tehee
in reality if there is a big enough shitstorm they will allow refunds no questions asked, just like for wc3r

either way ask for it, I might ask for it myself, since game is not ready for release
I would much rather pay 30$ for it half a year later after its (hopefully) fixed
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>>631341239
They use your religion as a skinsuit and will make sure you accept they propaganda.
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>>631336539
Tell me this is not real.
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i will now buy your game
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>>631342340
Still it was fun to see Asmongold sad he can't exploit his zombies because of no trade.
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>>631342584
Some people were able to get a refund. It wouldn't hurt to try
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>Every single dungeon i played in the beta is the same exact thing
>go through hallway until you reach a locked door
>go down both the forking paths and collect 2 keys
>kill boss
>people saying its the exact same at endgame
this shit is gonna be bad
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>>631342618
>YoU dOnT pLaY tHe GaMe If YoU tRaDe
Economy has been part of every single online rpg/mmo since forever. Youre not adding value to the game by removing it, you're just removing a gameplay element
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>>631342942
The end game is bad which is why I didn't preorder and probably won't buy. They changed literally nothing for the open beta besides giving the NPCs actual voices.
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>>631343035
>gameplay element
>done outside of the game via website, by not playing the game
tradecucks LMAO
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>>631342584
depends where you live, in europe they have to refund a pre-order if you ask for it.
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>>631340936
Because d2 released and got supper popular.
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>>631342858
>they start sell increasingly more coomer transmogs in the battlepass in their desperate attempts
fuck it might actually work
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A game so shit even the devs don't believe in its success without resorting to subterfuge.

Gentle reminder that 4chan D4 shills have confirmed their existence, see >>631302495
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>>631343150
why would it have to be outside the game?
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>>631342858
The same screenshot over and over again, body type B sorcerer is the only character with body which resembles female body also face is covered cause every face for sorcerer is a tranny face. Anyway, they will remove this costume from game due to activists outrage or something
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>>631333728
>cooldowns
LMAO
they never learn
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Reddit is filled with people saying "omg omg omg it's just like D2 omg!" Are they lobotomized? This feels like open world Diablo 3 with worse combat.
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>>631336539
I noticed these too. The storyline is terrible with unforgettable characters. Reminds me of WoW from recent expansions.

The player character dialogue in cutscenes is dumb as well.
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>>631334726
>game that isnt out for another couple months is unfinished
woah really?????????
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>>631333686
Does mana seriously regenerates this time around?
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>>631343492
Diablo subreddits are obviously going to look at it with blinders, go look at /r/games and you'll see them shitting on it.
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>>631343561
You have skills that regen your mana like in D3
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>>631343492
yeah they are generally retarded over there, more so than retards here. they love aaa slop
>>631343580
they like it too
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>>631343561
there are no mana pots so it damn well better
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>>631343492
they think that dark atmosphere = d2 and cant see all the terrible systems ripped from diablo3/immortal and lost ark
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>>631336073
>Muh Religion and Church BAD!
Ugh, no wonder there are no paladin or monk classes, doesn't fit their current year anti religion narrative.
Odd because the whole fantasy of Diablo is being a righteous crusader of all that is good and sacred, cleansing the world of sin and pure evil who want to subjugate humanity.
But if the developers are malformed sinful creatures themselves who want to bend others to their beliefs, can see why they want to portray the demons as morally gray, sympathetic and righteous in their cause.
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>>631343580
Even the diablo ones are shitting on the dungeons, lmao.
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>>631342858
>actually went back to the sexy d2 outfit
not gonna lie, very based
I hope they give her the hairstyle and face type to recreate the D2 sorceress in full though
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>>631339723
mobile stat for battlepass niggers, the higher your gear score the better your gear overall
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>>631343561
only sorc uses mana and yes it regens
although most of your mana comes from resource generating skills
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You have two ways of making this game. You either go all in or not at all. You either make the big instanced MMO with players running around, trading, co-op, etc.
Or you do none of that and focus on single-player and making the story as good and as atmospheric as it can be.
This is almost like a mix where they're too afraid to go one way or the other
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>>631333970
>level 10
>24,000,000 damage
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>ice blade enhancement
this seems broken. I basically have no cooldowns on anything and they just just autoattack the boss to death.
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>>631343447
so you're asking for auction house ingame
which is still the same thing, you're scrolling through the menus instead of playing the game
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>>631343721
100
not tha 24million damage isnt dumb either way and they could have easily knocked 3 digits off that
my 25 barb crits for about 10k thouh
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Boycott all american products
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>>631343492
No, unlike 4chan plebbit is filled with actual paid shills, mouthbreathing balding retards and zoomers addicted to tiktok... Okay its like 4chan but with*negative comments* being banned, so its safer working environment for shills and better echo chamber for *normies*?
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>>631342621
>>631342824
you will find out next week and remember this post
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>>631333996
>The people and culture that created the classics are just no longer there we should let it rest in peace and stop expecting anything with soul
Thats CAPCOM. They suck so hard now.
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>>631333686
its fun, looks nice, feels good. simple as
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>>631336076
>You can't extract their power
yet
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>>631336740
I like the game actually had tons of fun but got mad at the character screen because everyone was a nigger except one which was a woman
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>>631334794
For the last decade games only got worse after the beta
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>>631333728
>Blocks damage for very short period time for very long cooldown.
Useless amulet. At least PoE's Ward items have 4 second cooldown.
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>>631343867
>Balding this, balding that
aren't you balding yourself anon? tell me your secret
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>>631343809
Oh. That post said level 10.
Yeah, the issue was 24,000,000.
>>631343820
I'm just boycotting AAA and AA 'games'. My life is measurably improved.
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>>631342858
not very cute
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>>631343885
>Thats CAPCOM.
It's all of them anon. All of them.
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>>631343751
You know the only reason they exclude trading is because they dont want to spend money on combatting bots and RMTers right? You dumb fuck. You're basically defending them cheaping out on the game by removing a core gameplay element of online rpgs
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>>631343660
>Odd because the whole fantasy of Diablo is being a righteous crusader of all that is good and sacred, cleansing the world of sin and pure evil who want to subjugate humanity.
Diablo 1 was orchestrated by an archbishop
Mephisto controlled the church
Also the angels are canonically giant fucking dicks who would rather humanity be purged because they can potentially be used against them. The worldstone was created as a compromise as it limited humanities power but its been gone since the end of D2.
Current church in D4 doesnt even worship the light itself, they just dickride Inarius whos is banished from heaven.(which is actually just the remains of god after he split himself in two and fought himself to the death)
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>>631341689
Games revolving around trading are absolute garbage, but "smart" loot should still not be a thing.
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>>631344035
Nah, I'm good, thanks for asking though
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>>631344223
>canonically giant fucking dicks who would rather humanity be purged
Yeah makes sense humanity are angel/demon hybrids
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so is there going to be a crusader or paladin class?
because I might buy this if I can play as a white paladin
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not buying games from companies who endorse trannies and niggers
not paying $70 for pixels on a screen

shrimple as
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>>631344207
>cheapening the game
>by not allowing bots to ruin the economy like in every single other game
this is the brain of a tradecuck
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>>631342109
I heard you niggers liked gearscore
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>>631344390
no. wait 2 years for the 70$ expansion pack.
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>>631343523
>unforgettable character
nice
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Does anyone here remeber why they made, in Diablo 3, for health orbs to drop instead of potions?

Of course, the real reason is to cater to casuals, I know, but I'd like to know their official reasoning.
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>>631342340
>playing game BAD
>crunching excel spreadsheets GOOD!!!!
why are PoEfags like this???
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>>631344390
>white paladin
get fucked
I fucking hate nuBlizzard
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Diablo 4
>70 dollar buy to play
>battle passes
>cash shop
>paid expansions
Why are you idiots letting them milk you like this? The game isnt even fucking good.
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>>631342584
You're a fucking retard who paid 20 dollars extra to play a beta 4 days early.
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>>631336539
Game is woke BS just like all garl powah from modern blizzard, also where the fuck are the overpowered dudes from the third game?
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>>631344534
why have all the players running around shit then?
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>>631342710
Balancing around trading is fucking retarded though
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>>631344423
>Removing a core element because game devs dont have the skill/time/money to deal with cheaters is LE GOOD
You're embarrassing yourself now
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>>631344561
why do poe andys separate battle pass and cosmetics when it's the same thing? battle pass has cosmetics in it, and every game that has battle pass also sells cosmetics on the side for people who dont want to grind

meanwhile /v/ is full of xiv trannies that defend b2p+xpcs+p2p+cosmetics
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>>631344630
>good morning sirs yes I do speaking the English very goodly
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>>631344385
inarius atleast had good tastes
I dont like how D4 is retconning it so Lillith was just manipulating Inarius though
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this is so embarrassing. is this from some accessibility option for retards who only have a 5 second memory?
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>>631334917
>In a genre where the fun is at end-game
>>No battlepass yet
Oh god lmao
So this is the broken wow buck
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>>631344693
there is an ingame shop with cosmetics and premium currency aswell anon
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>>631344680
>core element
says who? most of the people played arpgs fully solo
tradecucks are on another level of retardness
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>>631344693
>whataboutism
who gives a shit about these other games
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>>631344701
what part of that was poor english, retard?
here, i'll put quotes in it since you're mentally handicapped
why have all the "players running around" shit, then?
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>>631344680
>a core element
found the shitcrow
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>>631333970
I dont understand, you litterally do this in D2 when you are farming for loot. So its okay when D2 does it? Did any of you actually play D2?
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>>631344693
poe is f2p, and actually have large updates every 3/4 months. but keep letting blizzard milk you faggot
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>>631344772
yes that's what I said
>>631344797
>whataboutism
>completely ignores the point made beforehand
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>>631341165
>unable to see shit = shit
>weather specific zones = shit
>too dark = shit
>too bright = shit
>bloom = shit
you start to get it
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>>631344815
>Please sir DO NOT redeem the 5 link!!!
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>>631343809
D4 seems to have insane number bloat straight away. They couldn't start with anything just being single digits, everything has to start at triple digits.
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>>631344735
everything has to be explained. you don't want timmy to stop playing the game, do you?
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>>631344223
Makes no sense at all angels being against humans as humans took down big evils by themselves and the fact you know...angels are supposed to be virtuous creatures (poorly written gnosticism).
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>>631344826
>games shouldnt evolve in 20 years
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Hey this is a long shot but yesterday an Anon gave me some advice to push rifts a bit better in d3. I'm no pro or anything and these are still rookie numbers but you helped me get to 90 from 60.
Thank you for the tips.
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>>631344852
yea it's f2p and unless you pay you look like absolute dogshit peasant, is janky and until a couple years ago was unplayable half the time due to desync issues

I would happily pay box price to not deal with this trash and actually look decent without spending 20-30$ per cosmetic set
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Well I've been playing the early access this weekend and overall the game just isn't that fun but there isn't anything else to play.
I believe D4 will do well simply because all other developers are staying away from it's launch window to maximize their own profits and in doing so they create a empty game period that actually boosts D4's mild success.
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>>631344870
>>completely ignores the point made beforehand
It was about diablo 4.
You bring up random other games because you have no defense.
Whataboutism at its finest.
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>>631333728
I fucking love this item.

Also, got lvl 20. Sveeeeeeet. I get the doggy.
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>>631344892
oh, so you're actually mentally ill. My bad.
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>>631344980
>yea it's f2p and unless you pay you look like absolute dogshit peasant,
why are you playing these games to play a dress up sim fag?
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>>631333970
Isn't that the blast shrines effect he has running? The one that pretty much one hits everything on normal? How did he manage to get that into the boss arena?
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>>631344980
>Oh no the jank THE JANK
And D2 still has desync issues, and that is 20 years old game. PoE at least has had the lockstep or whatever for years and years now.
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>>631344786
>>631344823

You fags are clearly d3 simps. Every other online RPG has trading. You are somehow gaslighted into thinking that Blizzards decision to remove a core gameplay element of online RPGs to save money is a good thing. People like you are the reason Blizzard will never change their ways, because you keep eating up their goyslop
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>>631340936
Path of Exile popularized the zoom zoom shit
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>>631344940
>i want bloat HP to waste time
you should try wow
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>>631344980
>is janky and until a couple years ago was unplayable half the time due to desync issues
This shit got fixed over five years ago. Stop talking out your ass, shill.
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>>631344523
It's basically the same in D4. Potions are just reskinned health orbs
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god i wish i wasnt a goyslop consooming faggot bros...i cant believe i caved and gave blizzard another 100
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I'm gonna regret not preordering if they release a Angel class later and I miss getting those preorder wings that would go with it.
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>>631344931
Nephalem are a wildcard and a liability that many of the angels don't want existing since they can change the balance of the eternal conflict depending on which side they join. If they join hell it's over for them.
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>>631345141
Tell me you didn't play D2 with everyone zooming around with Enigma
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>people want to move slow and kill shit slow
have you guys tried resident evil?
silent hill? or something more slow-pace for your 80 years old reflexes?
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>>631345010
>again ignores the point made beforehand so he can scream "whataboutism" like a good mr redditor
okay dude
>>631345059
why are you playing a game that survives on dress up business model, fag?
>>631345089
d2 is also shit for todays standards, your point?
>>631345115
sure thing tradecuck, have fun farming vs bots and having all your work invalidated
>>631345169
>game was riddled with desync until 2018
hilarious
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>>631344786
>most of the people played arpgs fully solo
talk about you friendless shill
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>>631340936
>>631345141
>>631345219
POE in the first 20 levels is slow as fuck, so is D2. Not defending D4 at all but you cant say shit about the pacing of the game in the first 20 levels because its always slow as fuck in every ARPG
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please stop greentexting incorrectly
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>>631345385
Oh you get paid for this.
Never mind then.
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>>631336910
>Girl still on underwear
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>>631345204
>if humans join the literal demons who torture and eat them for fun it will be over for us
>so let's antagonize them too
???
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>>631345387
you're either a delusional retard or a console couch co op fag
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>>631345434
d4 level 3 sorceress clears 2 screens at a time, its not slow at all.
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>>631345141
Poe just released a new game mode specifically for you. No movement skills, everything takes 2 hours to kill. Go play it. Have fun.
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Why are the colors so washed out? It's like there's a gray sandstorm active all the time. Why do so many modern games have this washed out filter?
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>>631345196
Are you at least having fun? I think it's boring and I'm both a D2 and D3 fan. The game feels uninspired and unfinished.
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This is the official MY review of DIABLO 4. The only review that MATTERS.

Good
>Dungeons
>Level design
>Writing
>Gameplay
>World boss was cool
>Side missions
>Talent trees
>Combat
>Sex appeal
>Aesthetics
>Locations
Bad
>Runs like an American instead of a Kenyan (vram issue)
>California tier bugs (you WILL eat ze bugs b4 launch)
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>>631345385
>have fun farming vs bots and having all your work invalidated

Sure, I cant hold the game developers responsible for not being able to deal with cheaters, Its my own fault for playing a game that has trading.
You have severe brainrot and are succesfully gaslighted into not holding developers responsible for their fuckups.
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>>631333686
only when i personally play it i will have a veredict, all of you retards have terrible meme tier opinions, they told me d3 was shit yet it was and still is the arpg with the best gameplay loop and combat
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>>631345385
You're a retard with blizzard cock in your mouth
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>>631345519
Ripped chicks are so fucking hot
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>>631345519
This is my review of your post
It's shit
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>>631345519
>Good
>>Dungeons
AHAHAHA. you cant be serious
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>>631345519
what's also bad is that barb is fucking dogshit once again and sorc is by far the best
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>>631333802
In 2001, it was fucking great. In 2023, not so much. There's better games out now, but back then, it was shooting shit with friends and farman.
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>>631345519
>Writing
>Aesthetics
kys
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>>631345519
>writing
Lmao
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>>631345497
Because they got traumatized by people calling d3 too bright and cartoony, so overcorrected. The ironic thing is, most of the cartoony d3 shit is still there.
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>>631345601
>>631345602
>>631345612
>>631345615
>>631345642
>>631345649
As much as I LUUUUUUUURV your replies, they're just... hahahahaha... how do I say this... SHIT! They do not change anything, and were a waste of data on 4channel! The game is great, I love it and I just bought the DELUX edition!
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>>631345649
Well, it's writing is better than 3, so that's a win in everyone's book, even if it's not saying much.
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>>631345524
Diablo3 is hot garbage
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>>631333686
Who gives a fuck if this is good or not?
I bought it because I work for a living and have disposable income. No matter how shit it turns out I will still get the same ARPG experience like from any other game of that genre (run, click, loot, repeat) and I will have something to play with my bros for one weekend. People who claim that these games are anything more than glorified cookieclickers are delusional.
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>>631345451
You can't even imply in video game that some woman got raped on the other hand its a game where genders do not exist so what the fuck?
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>>631334094
Doesn't Metzen work for Blizzard again now?
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>>631345739
you see what i mean, instant npc retard reply
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>>631345814
NPCs like Diablo3
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>>631345761
This gender shit really is getting out of control, it's fucking retarded.
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>>631345450
>s-shill! p-paid shill on my mongolian throat singing, basket weaving forum!
sure thing tradecuck
>>631345523
>spends hours scrolling through the menus to find item he wants instead of playing the game
sounds to me like you're the one with the brainrot
>>631345546
cry more faggot, you got curb stomped
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>>631345475
There have already been a number of nephalem that have chosen to side with demons without angels pushing them to it, and not all demons are antagonistic towards humans. Imperious and the others weren't exactly wrong in wanting to wipe them out, but it's too late for that now that the worldstone is destroyed.
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where's my nibba Imperius?
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>>631345837
>the internet told me!
kill yourself bot
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>>631335075
Elden Ring won goty so people dont care about that
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>>631341890
you do realize you have a lot of fucking item slots right retard bro?
If it were 20% you'd instead be bitching "HURR DURR 300% DAMAGE REDUCTION FUCKING DUMB"
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>>631345808
>Is his name on products?
Yes.
>Is he doing something?
No.
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>>631345451
yeah wtf is that shit
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>>631345069
no thats from the level 100 endgame beta test
he has no shrine but has an elixir then pops wrath of the berserker and deathblow X2
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>>631342584
subscribe to blacked while you're at it
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no one has said what the point is of players running around in your world if you can't trade with them. Can you do anything with them?
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>>631345451
She doesn't. Zoom in, it's just convenient bloodstains
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>>631345952
>worldstone is destroyed
Wait aren't newborn humans now supposed to be giga powerful nephalem?
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>>631346040
>trannoid up the amazon
>still kept this soul
what the fuck happened with d2r? did blizz interfere right at the end of development and forced to change the models?
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>>631345519
holy fucking redditor
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>>631336539
I wonder who wrote the plot of this game
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>>631345519
>every single dungeon is go to 2 side areas to get stone/box to unlock boss room
I don't mind the beta but the dungeon is one of the worst gameplay features so far
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>>631346137
Its called quality control and yes blizzard is responsible for trannyzons
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>>631346040
Stuff like this is why Diablo 1 and 2 are fucking great. 3 and 4 feel so censored, especially when it's a game about slaughtering demons.
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>>631344390
this
letting gamers go full Deus Vult is the only thing that'll save this game.
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>>631346132
Yes, or at least they have the potential to be again. The worldstone was suppressing their power level.
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>>631346027
Oh no, someone focusing on cooldown reductions managed to get more than 20% CD reduction?! What the fuck DO WE DO OUR GAME NOOOO AIIEEEE THE STATS THEY ACTUALLY DO NOTHING
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>>631346118
you can trade rares and shit like elixirs/gems
Which as of the moment the best gear is good rare items with imprinted legendary effects on them
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>>631336080
>poison is no longer DoT
I will now buy your game.
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>>631344390
You know they're coming back with the battle passes.
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This guy was so fucking zased
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>>631346326
Where are all these giga powerful beings then?
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>>631346178
>like 1/4th of the dungeon bosses are blood bishop
>another handful are a giant goatman with a poisoned coomer arm
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>>631344539
you know the paladin was black in d2? and the crusader was white in d3 right
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>>631346118
You can invite them to your party
In the end game beta, there is a zone with rare crafting materials that is a designated PvP zone. 99% of people just ignore you and farm though
They help during world boss events

That's about it
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>>631346436
(You)
>>631346420
This cunt.
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>>631346324
Making the crusader white was about the last thing I ever expected to see from nu blizz. That said, where THE FUCK is my holy class? Paladin, crusader, priest, battle cleric?
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>>631333686
If it was coming out 4-6 years after 3 I think it would be okay. It removes about of what made D3 so terrible but after over 10 years I was expecting something more substantial than this. Looking at games like Last Epoch,Grim Dawn,PoE and even games like Wolcen. Those pushed the ARPG genre forward in some aspect or did something unique. D4 isn't terrible but it's hard to accept that what should be the biggest release from this genre in almost 20 years should be more than just okay.
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>>631346436
they are (you)
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>>631333996
Don't need an OG dev's words to know that. nu-Blizzard is literally just WoW trannies who wants to "work in the games industry at their favorite company".
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why do the fucking armors look like some shit youd find on a fucking .png based paper doll in some shit from like 2002.
what the fuck is this cheapy shit
lookin like fucking Rage of Mages 2: HD
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>>631342824
He's correct about all of that.
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>>631346436
Literally you.
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Guys, I just... hahahahahaha... no, I can't ask that... Okay, I'm doing it...

What are your favourite heckin' APRG?

Don't say Lost Ark or PoE. I want the other ones.
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>>631345434
>POE in the first 20 levels is slow as fuck
not even those levels are slow anymore if you use the flat damage to spells on wands/sceptres recipe
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>>631346606
Take meds
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>>631342858
Why is under-boob so much hotter than cleavage?
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>>631346606
Diablo 2, Grim Dawn, Last Epoch
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>>631335419
>you mean the game is unbeatable on higher difficulties unless you farm specific OP gear from certain bosses?
Oh yeah, for sure. The last time I played a Sorc (on the original D2 not remake) I got stonewalled in Hell difficulty because it was a Fire sorc and a huge number of mobs were fire immune. But this is to be expected, some mobs would be immune to physical or cold or poisons so someone was gonna get fucked no matter what.
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>>631346584
So the worldstone barely had to suppress anything 99.99% of people would never have any power anyways?
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Made it to level 25 as sorceress

Good:
- combat is fun
- skill tree works well enough
- environments are for the most part well designed
- monster design is solid

Bad:
- itemization and inventory management. How hard is it to just repurpose d2s system? At least that made comparing items easy
- vendors: cant we simplify some of this shit? I spend half my time running around in the towns trying to get the right upgrades for my gear, which then becomes obsolete in the next ten minutes when i get a random drop.. makes upgrades and gold sinks feel pointless
- backtracking. Apparently we can use the emote wheel to exit dungeons.. wish i had received the memo on that about 10 hours ago
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>>631346606
Diablo 1 - 2, Grim Dawn, Nox, and uh...divine divinity I guess? I'm not that big of a fan of the genre now that I think about it. Also, I enjoyed D3 to some extent. I don't like most of them especially MMO shit like Lost Ark and PoE.
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>>631346718
in d2r they give ways to break immunities now that dont cost 2 ber runes
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>>631344523
The real reason they did that shit was for console players. Look at Diablo 2's potion management on console, it's fucking shit.
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>>631345436
no
>shill
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Diablo 3 had a lot of issues at launch but they made it into a fun game after a few years. Is this one any better?
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>>631342109
A trap to trick idiots into picking the item with the higher number instead of comparing what stats are actually on the item to see if its better or not.
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>>631346868
>Diablo 3 had a lot of issues at launch but they made it into a fun game after a few years. Is this one any better?
Cringe take, Diablo 3 was the most fun at the start, they turned it into goyslop.
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>>631346606
Torchlight got me into the genre.
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>>631346934
well it matters more than anything else when it comes to weapons at least
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>>631347005
I like Torchlight 2. How was 3 and uh, 4?
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>>631344390
doubt they'll release a holy knight class
it'll trigger the devs too much when everyone makes a white male paladin
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>>631339312
>There'll be no expansions for this game
Kill yourself
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>>631346934
It's ingenious, though. Makes the retards keep playing the game so they make more money. If there's one thing Blizzard knows how to do right, it's scam their fucking retarded audience.
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>>631347035
Personally never played them since they had different devs and mixed reviews
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>>631347091
>Source: Monotone youtube NPC
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the waiting around for NPCs to slowly waddle to the next story part is so annoying
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>>631346736
the original nephalem were near deity level like Rathma and Bul Kathos and were also immortal.
During the Sin war nephalem powers had to be awoken but were dormant in all people IIRC. Also the MC of sin wars trilogy got retard strong aswell.
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Expansion pre-alpha tester here.

The 6th and 7th classes will be a crypto-Islamic Paladin called a "Djinnter", i.e. a playable Act 2 mercenary, and one of Lilith's drag demon crotch spawns who gained autonomy and revolted, aptly called a "Spawn".
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>>631347183
Lel
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>>631347183
>in an interview with the developers
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>>631347030
A weapon with higher weapon damage is going to have a higher item power usually so its true but I still wouldn't give up a legendary effect or a large stat bonus for just anything it would have to be a big upgrade.
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>>631347321
>anchored around optional cosmetic items
FUCK
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>>631347306
i beleive it
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>>631347306
Thanks insider
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>>631347306
white sharia now
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>>631347353
pretty sure you can just transfer those legendary effects.

and stats are complete shit since you dont need them as item requirements. you would need hundreds on a single item to notice any difference. even more to compensate for having less power overall
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>>631346736
The worldstone has only been destroyed for like forty years by the time of D4.
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Someone make a new thread so I can ask about alternate ARPGs
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>556 replies
Fuckin hell.
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>>631347553
Just play Grim Dawn like the rest of us.
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>>631347526
I can make a poor man's legendary using the powers I get from dungeons, but what about a legendary that dropped at like level 15 and now youre 25? Is there a way to use that?
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>>631347773
trash
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>>631347773
What expansion are worth?
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>>631347839
no.

this is why the retarded scaling loot is trash. D2 had it perfect close to a century ago now and devs still feel like trying to reinvent the wheel again and again
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>>631347927
ashes of malmouth and forgotten gods
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>>631347682
>learning now about shilling
blizzard doesn't pay enough for the 50 extra threads like crapcum
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>>631346752
>backtracking. Apparently we can use the emote wheel to exit dungeons.. wish i had received the memo on that about 10 hours ago
KEK fucking RETARD me too
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>>631347773
I absolutely hate the on hit rainbow bonanza it turns into lategame, even minion builds are just vessels for a vomit of obnoxious constellation on hit effects.
I did enjoy my grenado + canister bomb build for one playthrough but it's hardly viable endgame.
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>>631346451
learn to read



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