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ATTENTION DUNWALL CITIZENS:
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what now
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>>625400345
lol'd
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is 2 any okay if I ignore DotO
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Should we gather for whiskey and cigars tonight?
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Yes, of course
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>>625400607
D2, despite being more polished, with better level design, better gameplay and a semi-decent story, turned out to be unbelievably boring.
I finished the original game in a single weekend. The sequel took me over a month because I had to force myself to come back to it.
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>>625401093
What do you think made the difference?
I finished 1 recently and didn't think it was a particularly interesting game to begin with. Too easy to Blink your way past most things
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>>625401358
>What do you think made the difference?
I have no idea. It's just boring. Everything is predictable and exploration isn't fun - you used to find all sorts of interesting shit and sidequests, now it's just bloodfly nests all over the place. The only mission I liked is the one with a time travel device.
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>>625400980
Never doubt it
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>>625401586
I'm not really seeing much difference. The first game I also found to be pretty predictable. Even the sidequests I remember -stuff like being sent to duel the one guy or using the heretic's brand on the high inquisitor dude- just didn't have good payoffs. Maybe my expectations are just too high, but Dishonored is the kind of game that gets compared with stuff like Deus Ex
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so mind-broken people glorify mediocre games now
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>>625402543
theyre all immersive sims
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>>625400607
DoTo is like a bite-sized version of the base game, more simple powers, made away with mana potions in favor of a charge system that fills automatically as long as you don't use it.
rapes the lore a wee bit and does a couple of cool things.
2 is great, no idea what people are smoking
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>>625402673
Must suck to grow old and bitter
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>>625401586
Not OP but having played it I can agree here, so many of the missions just felt like retreads of the original games
>first level you're escaping as a fugitive
>asylum lady felt too much like that Knife of Dunwall mission at the whaling plant ("look at all the sinister mistreatment from a darker aspect of human society!"), I did like the twist though
>Jindosh just felt like Sokolov again
>Paolo was just Slackjaw with a pinch of Daud
>return to Dunwall was basically Flooded District 2

I did like the time flip level though, haven't had that much fun with that concept since Titanfall 2.
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>>625403354
Damn, you nailed it. That's why it was boring. Essentially a rehash of levels.
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>>625402543
Personally I love both of those side missions just for the personal satisfaction I get, especially when I win the duel without using any powers.
The Brand is more for elaborate revenge, I love flipping the script after Corvo got tortured (I kill the torturer guy too for this reason) plus Campbell ends up as a weeper in the Flooded District.
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>>625402746
They literally are not.
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>>625404272
But they are by any definition, retard.
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>>625404165
>plus Campbell ends up as a weeper in the Flooded District.
he does? I don't recall seeing him there. If he is there, that changes my outlook drastically, that's pretty damn cool. Do you see any of your other marks again after non-lethally dealing with them?
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>>625400980
Piss off, choffer
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>>625403681
I mean I get what they were going for thematically
>Emily gets to experience the same events of the first game but from a different perspective, in this case a new city
>Corvo's more expert mode for the players who turn off features for added difficulty, most who picked Corvo on launch probably started on Hard or higher. He also appeals to the "this game is great I just want more missions" crowd, like the NuHitman fanbase
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>>625404612
Yeah when you go get your stuff after Daud tosses it down into that pit, there's a weeper standing right next to your stuff; if Campbell was Branded this weeper is him
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>>625404573
It's an FPS with meaningless stealth and and an upgrade tree, you might as well call Dead Island an immersive sim.
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>>625405356
I wish the average FPS had detailed level design and alternate paths and solutions like Dishonored does
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>>625405228
That explains it. I never actually found my stuff somehow and just kept going on without it. Kinda shitty that the game never gives you another crossbow. There were a few points I feel like I needed one afterwards
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>>625405489
>detailed
>dishonored
It's levels are extremely straightforward.
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>>625404612
I think Campbell is the only one you actually see, but the Pendletons get it pretty bad too in the deeper lore
>Slackjaw had them kidnapped, cut off their tongues, shaved them bald and committed them to eventual death working one of their very own Pendleton mines that earned them such wicked reputations
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>>625405778
Can you try coming up with a better argument than lazy reductionism?
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>>625405778
more like extremely skippable
I almost felt bad for the level designers who put so much work into modelling Sokolov's big mansion and designing guard routines only for me to blink onto the roof and skip 70% of it
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>>625405356
How is Deus Ex any different by your standards?
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>>625403354
>>625403681
>Jindosh with his revolving mansion is just Sokolov again
What the fuck are you smoking?
Yeah, he's the big scientist guy in the story, but beyond that there are no other similarities.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn7mq0_7-pk
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>>625401586
Same. I can't articulate why but D2 just didn't hit the way D1 did. The mansion and time warp levels are cool and every other level was fine but in the end I just feel completely neutral about the game.

Maybe it needed some more spice.
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>>625403354
2's story didn't have any surprises like the Loyalists betraying Corvo, your goal stays the same from beginning to end making it feel predictable and formulaic. They could have done some interesting things with the Crown Killer and time travel but they were both limited to only one mission. The hub and supporting cast were also much worse.
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>>625403048
2 is only carried by the art style and the Clockwork Mansion and Time Travel Mansion. It was when Arkane became extremely pozzed though which resulted in original devs leaving to make their own studio.
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>>625405953
>>625406085
>>625406224
The tower and the prison are one of the most boring openings to a game I have ever played. I was so bored by the end of the High Overseer mission that I dropped the game.

There is no challenege and no point to all your "route choices" since you can just skip everything with your starting powers. The stealth is meaningless because you can either just blink out of range or just kill everything with your starting gear and powers. The setup of the assassination being blamed on you and everyone just buying it and the city just turning into a police state overnight is dull, simple, and retarded. I have zero interest or motivation to rescue this random child I just met and I don't care about any of these resistance characters I also just met.
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>>625407931
Sounds like a problem with your autism
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>>625407685
>2's story didn't have any surprises like the Loyalists betraying Corvo
You were surprised by that? The only thing mildly surprising about it was that 3 of them betrayed him instead of just one
That the game didnt do more with the Outsider also felt like a letdown. That was kind of what I was counting on to make the story interesting, but he was just Greek chorus nonsense
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>>625407931
Dishonored gets so far, but falls on it's face in balance so hard it kills the entire experience.
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Dishonored is unironically a better series than Deus Ex.
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>Rescue Emily
>Put her in the most rickety piece of shit building on the entire coast
What were they thinking?
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PENISES
THAT IS ALL
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>>625408335
simply not true
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>>625408162
It wasn't the greatest twist in the world, but it did shake up the story and it was built up to well if you pay attention to the Loyalists' dialogue and notes over the course of the game.
Personally I like The Outsider better when he's kept distant and mysterious, everything 2 and especially Death of the Outsider did to try explaining and humanizing him was a mistake.
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>>625408335
Maybe if only the first game and Daud's DLCs existed
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>>625399510
>THE JEWS WANT TO TAKE YOU WHALE OIL
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>>625408335
Deus ex was never a series in the first place
it was only 2 games
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>>625407931
Thief was literally the same, you could go through the entire game and just bonk everyone.
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>>625399510
covor needs your help to defeat gigagas
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>>625408684
*3 games, Invisible War is noncanon
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>>625408489
It is, Deus Ex is basically an adventure game/RPG shooter hybrid with little to no simulation.

>>625408651
2 has much better AI than 1 and it being a rehash story wise doesn't make the level design any worse.
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>>625408651
>forgetting that infinite war exists
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>>625408651
Nothing in Dishonored compares to the joy of hacking into security systems using the GEP gun
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>>625408787
Any small gameplay improvements 2 made weren't enough to redeem its problems
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>>625408756
>the game made by the same people isn't canon
lmao
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>>625399510
>ATTENTION DUNWALL CITIZENS: Y.W.N.B.A.W.
https://youtu.be/-Mc3SA9sKGU
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>>625408820
I remember it exists, I put it on the same level as Death of the Outsider(both were directed by the same hack Harvey Smith funnily enough).
Human Revolution and Mankind Divided were definitely better than Dishonored 2.
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>>625399510
Ayo
*Smack lips*
So u iz da outsida?
*steals your wallet*
Yooo I been lookin for you. I must kill you for racism an sheit
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>>625408209
The story's opening and setup is also so bland and forced that I had and have zero expectation for it to get better.

>send the single imperial bodyguard to random shitholes to ask for help and updates on a plague outbreak
>send him alone
>he must do it personally for some reason
>he gets back early
>assassination plan kicks off
>a whole gang of assassins with blades and guns jump and teleport across rooftops
>not a single marksman
>the bodyguard (player) wipes them out with ease
>but one of them that turns up late and bothers to use magic to defeat the bodyguard (cutscene)
>empress killed
>heir kidnapped
>assholes that planned the assassination turn up and blame the bodyguard
>all the other guards that know the bodyguard and know that he has a close relationship with the empress and heir decide he must have been lying for the past 10-15 years and secretly wanted to kill them for no reason and decided randomly that now was the time
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>>625409053
HR was good but flawed, MD was dogshit
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>>625400980
Indeed, i believe so.
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>>625399510
Please disregard any posters claim to be the late Empress Jessamine Kalwins “feet pics” these are nothing more than lies by seditious traitors! Also if you see anyone claiming to be selling the the empress’s bath water we ask you report them to the guard immediately
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>>625409014
It had a different director and writers and it shows in how shit of a game it is
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>>625409053
Both those games are not very good and employ a check-list design of combat rooms with chest high walls or vent passageways for sneaking.
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>>625409189
MD has the best gameplay in the series Prague is a masterpiece of level design
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>>625409247
Harvey Smith did a massive amount of work on the Original Deus Ex and is one of the few reasons the project didn't fall apart despite Warren Spector's retarded new-age management bullshit like splitting the team in two and having them compete against eachother.
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>>625400345
kek
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>>625409259
I disagree
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>>625407931
Yeah autism
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>>625409218
>That one dude in Draper's Ward that was absolutely jacking off with the bit of Emily's hair he had
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>>625408162
Really? I thought Meagan being Billie Lurke was supposed to be the surprise or it would have been if I didn’t see it coming the second I met her
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>>625403048
>rapes the lore
It's not
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>>625409189
as a deus ex game MD is better

HR is a bit limited

MD has a truly staggering amount of exploration and hidden lore built into it
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WELCOME TO
THE ARENA!
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>>625409371
And that doesn't matter when he's proven to be a terrible director by himself
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>>625401093
I never even finished it.
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>>625401586
I think even if there are just some sparks of social justice/diversity/feminist agenda it subconsciously kills the entire game.

The setting isn't believable anymore, then the characters aren't believable anymore.

Also why is Sokolov suddenly a good warm hearty guy? He literally did human experiments in the first game without consideration for them.
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>>625409550
Yeah the riveting exploration that involves finding praxis kits and items for crafting. Game was awful and I'm glad the Jensen era is dead.
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>>625409506
It takes a giant shit on the characters of Daud and The Outsider and ruins the universe by destroying the source of all magic
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>>625409259
so what? its a video game, the levels dont have to be realistic. If anything, even the unimportant rooms you dont have to sneak around in are full of clutter and random unnecessary boxes, so the levels being the way they are makes sense

The real problem with them is that you are incentivized to play in stupid ways. I should not miss out on experience because I found a computer password instead of hacking. I should not miss out on experience because I decided to leave the enemies unscathed instead of going around and doing nonlethal takedowns on all of them; if anything I should earn more points for that
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>>625409701
It feels like Sokolov's role in 2 was written for Piero but they couldn't get Brad Dourif back for whatever reason
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>>625399510
KILLING BAD
KARMA GOOD
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>>625406962
the setting of D2 is shit and inconsistent with the tone and lore of the first game and even itself
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>>625409795
There are other videogames like the one this thread is about that don't have to do that shit because they're not designed by retarded french canadians that never played Deus Ex.
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>>625409730
Way to confirm yourself as a brainlet that missed a lot of important details
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>>625409910
That sounds believable
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>>625407685
>'allies' are all voiced by asshole sounding VAs
>the main guy looks like generic final boss design b
>frequently catch them spying on girls in the bathtub and plotting betrayals
>they betray you
>surprised
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>>625400607
Yes, but you HAVE to play as Emily. Playstyle doesn't matter, just play Emily.
Corvo (in addition to being so narratively irrelevant he might as well be a NG+ reward) has powers that were and are game-breakingly broken. When you play Corvo, you have noclip, and when you have noclip, all that's left is for you to lament the inferior level design.
Emily's powers are fun as fuck especially her dogshit suicidal slingshot that replaces Blink. It never does what you want, it's not instant so can't be used to get past people in stealth, is incredibly finicky in close quarters, has little synergy with the rest of her powers, and results in lots of fall damage all the time, but it's so goddamn fun. Far Reach makes the entire fucking game
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>>625409956
It's more like killing is okay, but only in moderation
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>>625399510
BLOCK MISCOUNT DETECTED. ANTICITIZEN CONFIRMED IN SECTOR C 2. OVERWATCH CODE: INCISE, STABILIZE, CAUTERIZE
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I thought somebody in a previous thread had a really cool idea
You could set it during really any past or future time period as long as you ignore "the Abbey is kill and no Outsider" developments
Is there a punchier term than "Excommunicated" that would be equivalent to "Dishonored" as a title?
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I beat both games nonlethal no powers, ask me nothing.
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>>625410267
What do you mean with no clip?
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>>625410235
See >>625408553
>>frequently catch them spying on girls in the bathtub
Piero never betrays you
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>>625410235
>frequently catch them spying on girls in the bathtub
That only happened once and that guy didn't even betray you.
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>>625410380
Heretic? That's already taken though, it could still work as a subtitle
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>>625409910
I thought Piero was supposed to be that Dunwall Courier Printer at first before finding out that Piero apparently passed away between the events of 1 and 2. The printer guy does resemble him though. Maybe he was supposed to be Piero's brother in earlier drafts of the game?
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>>625410489
Ehhhh, you only CATCH him once
Piero's still a bro though
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>>625410179
They give me the same vibe you guys are telling me about Dishonored 2.
The level design in NuDX is more consistently good than the original game (I recall some levels in the original more or less forcing gunfights) and your abilities are overall more balanced (nonlethal isnt a total joke) but it lacks any of the wacky charm of the original and has a retarded incentive structure that feels like its just hopping on the dumbass nonlethal stealth game bandwagon that a lot of games in the late 2000s were doing. Theyre good games but definitely do give off more of that soulless corporate product feel than the original
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>>625409701
By Tyvian standards he's a saint
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>>625410380
I'm glad that my greentext was worthy of being saved
Maybe I should try writing a fanfic
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>>625410197
Yeah I missed the fact that the game is lacking details because it was easier to add chest high walls you can press up again and epic animations for breaking through walls and beating up NPCs.
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>>625410696
Piero dying offscreen felt very random, Sokolov was way older than him was but he's still kicking somehow.
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>>625411174
I see you're just a pedantic autist
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>>625408213
IMAGINE THE SMELL
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>2 sets up murder mystery
>you solve it in the first mission
Man... I really enjoyed DH1 and went straight into 2 riding that high immediately after. What a fucking disappointment. Especially since everything in the original stands alone so well. They didn't want to do the rat thing again so all the rat motifs in the first game (constant backstabbing, dogs look like giant rats, humans are cartoonishly proportioned to resemble rats) were completely dropped. The graphics are objectively better but the art style took a hit and so does the framerate. The world no longer looks like one of Sokolovs paintings. Completely unnecessary sequel.
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>>625407912
I hope Colantonio goes back to making normal immersive sims again. Other indie devs are proving that you don't need a huge AAA budget to make one.
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>>625411563
The Crown Killer was such a waste of potential she could have been a cool rival character that randomly ambushes you during levels.
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>>625411348
Yeah, going in blind I expected to run into Piero somewhere during the game, only to have Corvo narrate that Piero died a few years before the game took place from an illness.
Felt like that came out of nowhere, I expected that Samuel would have passed away, but Piero was blatantly written off.
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>>625411846
>she could have been a cool rival character that randomly ambushes you during levels.
I guarantee this complaint lead to that Deathloop bitch
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>>625412536
Ideally there wouldn't have been any forced multiplayer shit. It's a cool idea but I don't think Arkane has the talent to do it well, at least not anymore.
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I'm kinda glad Prey didn't do well enough to warrant a bastardized sequel that continues or understands none of the themes
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>>625413520
>I'm kinda glad Prey didn't do well enough
Prey was fucking amazing, how dare you.
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>>625413520
As long as Colantonio directed a sequel instead of Harvey or Dingus it would have been good
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>>625413845
I do too. I'd rather time see it stand alone on its merits as it deserves to without any secondary lesser appendages leeching the lime light.
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>>625410267
You are retarded. Emily's powers are not only overpowered but also boring as fuck.
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>>625414173
>I do too.
Oops. I misread your post as my immediate reaction to it. I meant to say I love Prey.
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What do apricots taste like?
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>>625400607
its good, I need to do a no powers run as Emily
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>>625409956
If you're not a psycho retard, yes
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>>625409109
Can someone give me a QRD on Death of the Outsider? I played Dishonored 1 but probably will never play Dishonored 2, at least not its DLC.
In Dishonored 1 the Outsider was pretty much a God, how is he killed and why? How does he react to it? His existence or motives are never really explained in the first game, and I liked his enigmatic presence. I was surprised the devs would kill him off
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>>625401586
>I have no idea. It's just boring.
This sounds like a massive copout. The worst part though is that you are completely right. I marathoned Dishonored in under a week in the middle of a busy work week, squeezing it in where ever I could. Dishonored 2 I still haven't finished. I couldn't even get past the first real mission because I keep losing interest. I don't get it. You have so many more options now, yet I just can't get into it. I have no idea how to articulate why I dislike it or what's boring about it.
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>>625418148
>His existence or motives are never really explained in the first game, and I liked his enigmatic presence
They completely screwed this vibe in 2. He's a quipping bitch with an entirely different voice actor with shitty post processing over his voice. I hate how they brought him into and grounded him in the world. In the first game he came off so detached that he could also be a god in a completely different story or setting at the same time. Like he was casually breaking the fourth wall into this story specifically because it amused him. From his perspective he can see all the different Corvos and what actions they took simultaneously. A truly godlike entity.
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>>625399510
Is this fallout 3? Such a good game
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>>625418148
>In Dishonored 1 the Outsider was pretty much a God, how is he killed and why?
Thousands of years prior to the events of the second game, a civilization on the island of Serkonos discovered a dead god buried in the heart of a mountain.

The Outsider was brought into the Void through the eye of this god and used as a human sacrifice. By doing so they actually turned him into a demi-god of sorts, able to control the void and grant special powers to individuals he thought were "interesting", branding them with his name (the sigil on the hand of the protagonist in the first game).

The Outsider's goals are to die, basically. That's why he's picky about who he blesses with powers; literally everything he has done is so that someone can find him and stab him in the heart.
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>>625418148
In part 1 he had this eldritch element that made him mysterious and cool. In part 2 they made him much more human and boring.

Also, they explained how he became like this (was a normal guy until a cult made some ritual with him if I remember correctly - didn't rly care anymore) which takes a lot of the mysterious/unknown feeling from him.

So yeah, they fucked the most interesting character up
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>>625400607
Yes, just ignore the story
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>>625420170
see I don't really have a problem with making the story about him since the rest of the story really wasn't too interesting
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>>625418148
Well, Dishonored 2 drops lore that the Outsider was originally a human that was ritually sacrificed and bound to the the Void, having his name stripped from living memory in the process
In Death of the Outsider you're able to recover the knife that did the deed and enter the Void, finding the Outsider's body. Either you kill him permanently, or convince the recently deceased Daud to speak the Outsider's lost name (his Mark is actually a representation of that name in a form that only the dead can speak) and free him from the Void (he becomes a mortal in the real world again somehow)
Apparently he was not the first god of the Void, and it seems that without one it has started breaking through to destabilize and consume the material universe. Or something. That stuff's all in more books
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>>625400345
>The Loyalist Conspiracy is dissolved
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>>625411846
>>625411563
Dishonored 2 has many faults but the mishandling of the Crown Killer might be the most baffling part. They hype them up considerably in the first level and it's solved immediately. The game is laughably easy and a rival character could have been exactly what the game needed.

Incredibly easy enemies suck too. Everything you do instakills them or puts them in a state to be instakilled. Somehow Deathloop got even easier.
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>>625420569
>and it seems that without one it has started breaking through to destabilize and consume the material universe
I haven't touched any of the Dishonored books yet but I'm almost positive the lack of an Outsider is what leads to the time anomaly in Deathloop.
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I thought D1 was amazing.
But I like many others didn't click with D2, it was a good game but it was just meh.
D2 actually made me not play Deathloop until just very recently and it's pretty good desu and feels more memorable than D2.
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>>625423402
Interesting if true.
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Probably rats
Get into everything
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It's not surprising he got his own squad after what happened last night. Think about it logically.
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>>625409701
>BAWWWWWWWWWWWW
lol
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>>625399510
What a cool world that will never ever be revisited.
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>>625429110
May all bespoke works of art never have to be qualified with ", but the sequels..."
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>have fun tools
>but using them earns you a bad ending
wow
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>>625429545
this is tired bait, anon
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>>625429679
>bait
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>>625429783
>game can be played in more than one way and accounts for this, thus leaning into the strengths of it being a game and not a movie or book
>this is bad
yes. bait.
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>>625429545
Evil emily is the kino path any way.
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>>625430049
>Evil
It's only prudent to wipe out those backstabbers, but yes I agree
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>>625410170
this

Dunwall was so much better
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>>625407931
good thing you proved my original post that it is indeed an immersive sim franchise
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>>625430049
This
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>>625430467
What does the Low picture look like?
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>>625430659
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the only thing i remember about this game is creeping on that lady in the bathroom through the keyhole
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>>625431019
how dishonorable
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How the fuck does ANYONE say the levels in Dishonored 2 are worse than 1? They're bigger, more complex, more nonlinear, and fewer of them are chopped up into separate pieces like D1's levels often were. I remember Knife of Dunwall and Brigmore Witches having bigger maps, are people comparing to those? I really don't get it.
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>>625431019
Fun fact she was voiced by the chick that plays Cersei in Game of Thrones
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>>625431352
Bigger =/= better most of the levels focused on gimmicks that hurt their replayability
The best levels that felt the most like classic Dishonored were the Dust District and Grand Palace
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>>625431352
If dishonored 2 were not named dishonored and not connected to dishonored in any way I would agree. Dishonored 1 is just such a tight singular package in it's themes, visual design, and gameplay that associating with it diminishes it
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>>625431715
I think Addermire Institute is a great level with its "one big building" style, accessible from rooftops to basement, and that was a style I felt was sorely lacking in Dishonored 1. D1's interiors are all disappointingly small IMO, Dunwall Tower is probably the best but they had to chop it up between the inside and outside.
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>>625431357
"Piero was spying on your beautiful, perky norks, just a heads up"
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>>625432584
See I like Addermire's level design but it annoys me with how it won't let me kill Hypatia normally and forces me to do the little quest to find the key and go to the abandoned area every time. The way they handled the Crown Killer was disappointing in general.
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>>625432989
Huh? I coulda sworn you can kill her as soon as you meet her
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>>625401093

They're both boring, just like every Arkane game.
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>>625431019
>not hopping in the tub with her
ngmi
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>>625430796
is Corvo actually Emily's father or do they never say?
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>>625433917
2 states as such
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>>625433917
They say it in 2. I just figured she saw and looked up to him as a father figure in 1.
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>>625434127
Yeah, now that I know he actually is it just makes me ask why he never married the empress
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>>625434257
Scandalous maybe. The Empress getting with her most loyal right hand man. I prefer not knowing tho
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>>625400345
How do I stop doing this in every stealth game I play?
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>>625434394
play stealth games that dont meaningfully penalize you for getting caught?
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>>625430467
oh hey, you saved my screenshot
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>>625434394
G
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Honestly I thought 1 really shot itself in the foot with the ending where the game basically retcons itself regarding the plague. All throughout the game all this lore is dumped implying the Rats and the disease are literally an ancient supernatural curse. You literally get the ability to cast Rat magic, Killing Rats refills your magic, and on and on. Then at the end of the game it's just "Jk lol it's just regular rats and a regular disease". Way to completely deflate everything.
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>>625436684
Not if you equate rats to behavior. The game invites you to interpret it on a symbolic level.
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>>625423402
More than that I think its causing the world to end which is why they went to the island in the first place.
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>>625436684
Rats might be associated with the Void (The Abbey literally believes eating them will curse you to eternity within it), but people are figuring out that the plague is largely engineered by human hands as soon as the first real level with Galvani's research
Also the plague rats came from Pandyssia so they probably are legitimately cursed
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>>625436684

Eh they're still pseudo eldritch creatures from Pandyssia aren't they?
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>>625434257
>>625434307
He's not a fucking nobleman, that shit don't fly.
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>>625399510
you made me wanna replay it after I just did last year, fuck you OP
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>>625437193
Agreed. I wouldn't like thinking my divinely appointed Empress bloodline was being polluted by random tools. Kinda shakes my faith in the divinely appointed thing
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>>625436684
They are cursed rats, the manmade aspect was just that they imported them from another continent and it backfired because they couldn't control them like they could control regular rats
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>>625437193
>>625437365
Even worse, he was a commoner from another country. He's not even native to Gristol.
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>>625437465
1000 squats a day and you too can pull this off
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>>625408756
IW wasn't that bad.
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>>625431357
Most of the characters are actors that you would know but don't realise whole you're playing.

>lena headey - callista
>susan sarandon - granny rags
>brad dourif - piero
>michael madsen - daud
>rosario dawson - billy lurk
>john slattery (from mad men) - havelock
>chloe grace moretz- emily

Same thing with the second game
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>>625437579
fucking oof. PR nightmare. shut it down. pin the blame of the pregnancy on... on...
>people catch on
>assassination perpetrated by the people who are newly disillusioned
kino
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>>625436684
They are supernatural they're from pandyssia
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>>625399510
Tell it to me straight. Should I play these next, or will I get bored because they are super dull """stealth""" games that basically means "Walk. Stop. Walk. Stop. Walk. Stop."
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>>625437193
I think its part of anti-emily propaganda in 2 so yeah there's a reason they kept it secret
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>>625429797
out skilled
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>>625437939
Do you like exploring every nook and cranny of a level?
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>>625437939
Refund 2.
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>>625437939
You CAN just kill everything in sight if you hate stealth.
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>>625409331
>Prague is a masterpiece of level design
This. It's the best hub that's been done in a very long time.
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>>625438079
Yes
>>625438123
Too late
>>625438207
I will be too tempted to do this
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>>625438613
It's a valid way to play the games. There are different endings for high and low chaos.
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>>625438675
there is also a distinction between high chaos and "I am trying to max out the chaos meter"
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>>625438613
Youll probably like them. Also because of your mobility you can still be stealthy without just waiting for enemies to be alone
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>>625438613
Don't worry about going non-lethal the first time through; it's very limiting.
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>>625410267
Seconding that the grab is stupid fun
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Damn it bros I'm already replaying all the dude sexes I don't have time to replay dishonored too
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>>625439875
the games just keep on giving bruh dkwts
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>>625439024
Personally I think starting with Low is better
It really puts things in perspective when you go in sword and gun blazing and clear a segment in seconds that might've taken ten minutes before
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It's funny that till I saw this thread I completely forgot this franchise existed despite playing it at least 3 times from beginning to end. I have absolutely zero motivation to play dishonored 2 or the DLC for 1.
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>>625440127
I barely missed a low chaos ending on my first game. The way I see it, a good man hellbent on restoring the monarchy would try not to kill, but if a few mooks got in his way it would be a small price to pay. Playing a game with an ending in mind is a delusion.
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this and Bioshocks are pretty mediocre. Why do people keep praising it?
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>>625440249
Ah, well I suppose when I say low chaos I really imagine more the challenge of essentially trying for Ghost the entire game, and knocking out all the guards
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>>625440761
I no longer know how to relate to the filtered anymore. I guess, from your perspective, plebians are simply attracted to things that aren't GOAT for unfathomable reasons and are perhaps attracted to things that superficially resemble the cream of the crop but aren't. Of course these delusions of self importance fall apart once you actually experience the thing but since you will never actually do so it would better serve you to think everyone else but you is an idiot
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>>625418148
>I was surprised the devs would kill him off
Outsider's VA XBL gamertag was "trannydestroyer"
if a trannoid grabbed a gun it would kill itself instead, so they settled for damnatio memoriae.
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>>625400607
I liked it more than D1 due to personal reasons.
South climate of Karnaca and Italian-like architecture feels somewhat cozier to me than gloomy, Victorian Dunwall.



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