Is completing games to 100% fun? At what point does it start feeling like work and chores?
depends on the game. It comes down to how tedious collecting things is.
when there are achievements like "do x 10,000" times, but you can finish everything in the game and only have 1,500/10,000, then I just don't bother because the devs are lazy assholes
Only if it's something like Spelunky achievements that depend on player skill and not kill 10000 of this and find 100 of that
>>619194771Playing the game already is a chore, i'd rather just watch my favorite youtuber play it.
If it's fun, I'll 100% complete it. If it's not fun, I won't. Simple as.
I have never played more of a video game than I wanted to. This includes genshin impact or stuff like that when I just turn it off without completing dailies or whatever.it becomes work the moment you don't want to be playing anymore. is that not inherently obvious?why would you ever 100% a game, with effort? what does it bring you? what did you accomplish? something that, literally, a monkey could be trained to do with no concept of the game, just pushing buttons until he memorized what the researcher wants.go outside.
>>619194771Depends on game and I think achievements are in a lot of cases separate thing from completing game 100% since you can often do every thing in game and still not unlock all achievements
>>619194771playing games for achievements is THE fucking choreTry playing video games because you're in the mood instead
>>619194771Some games are, some games are not.Usually, if I love the game - i will 100% it. But some of the games are really tiresome to do this. For example - i still can't do DOS2 100% because i just don't want to make another run to get Archdemon ending, and i deleted all my saves. And i have to finish this Honor run, but i just don't want to play it anymore.
It depends on the gameSome of them? Good fun to check off everything and finally "finish" it. Other ones? The developers clearly weren't trying and knew nobody wanted to play it so they had shit to bloat average playtime for obsessives.Shit like Jump On This Bridge 2022 Times On Tuesdays
>>619194771Kind of depends on the game but generally no. It's mostly just slogging through low-effort filler content that was lazily added to pad the game out. Skip it unless you really enjoy the game.
>>619195113Also some games are legitimately not designed to be run like hundreds of times to get every single possible piece of content in the game, and the existence of little niche things are pretty obviously there so different people get different things out of games.
>>619194880imagine being such a mental midget you get filtered by having to go off-route for more than a few minutes at a time
>>619195642>Some games require get x of something>playing through the game twice with trying to get the chevo only just gets you itSome games take it too far, anon
>>619195642>I'M ACTUALLY WAY COOLER THAN YOU BECAUSE I PLAYED THE SHITEATER ROUTE JEALOUS? I BET YOU ARE, NOT EVERYONE IS THE CALIBUR OF GAMER AS I AM TO SIT IN THE STARTING ROOM AND EAT MY OWN SHIT FOR 47 STRAIGHT HOURS TO UNLOCK THE SHIT EATER ENDINGOk
>>619195642>kill 10000 enemies>in a slow jrpg where you wont even kill 1/10th of that in a 100% playthrough>has to be all on the same save file
>>619196001>yet you did iti'm 40 and i have stenosis in my neck. you will actually regret this stuff. trust me.
>>619196068I used an auto clicker and taped down my analog stick while I was at work
>>619194771>Is completing games to 100% fun?Completing fun games to 100% is fun. If I like the game and want to play more but finished everything already, the trophies are there to give me a side objective while replaying. I don't even care if the trophies are retarded as long as it's a reason for me to play the game again. I don't have a lot of plats but those that I have are games that I actually like like dragon's dogma.
Sony movie games usually have ok achievements, in ghost of Tsushima and death stranding i had 90% complete in first playthrough.
>>619194771depends on the game. some games i 100% a handful of times, other games are miserable to do it even once in.Like I'm playing Ys VIII right now and i'm really enjoying it. It's a great game. But i failed one easy quest early on in the game and if i want to 100% it, i'd have to replay an entire JRPG start to finish again and redo every quest + that one easy one i missed on my first go.This could've been prevented and made easy if i used a guide, but that's not how i play games on a first run.Other games are miserable even with guides, like FFIX. FFIX is also a great game but it's absolutely not worth 100%ing.
>>619196217nigga said plats lol...just casually dropped itI don't have a lot plats but uhh...*wink* *Finger guns*
>>619194771Gives you a virtual trophy if you need validation in life
>>619194771it's fun if you care about that sort of thing. if you don't want to do it then don't
>>619194771I only try and do them if they're not too time consuming and doable in a single playthrough, anything that requires multiple playthrough is a no go for me.
>>619196143i did this on 3x speed while watching like 5 moviesi did use some turbo autoclicker for Dragon Ball FigtherZ though whenever i was sleeping because the money grind in that game is equally as bad if not worse
>>619194771If the game is fun, I'll probably treat the achievements as extra challenges to clear before saying I'm done with the gameIf the game is Celeste, I'm just rushing the main story to the end so I can remove it from my backlog
>>619196406Celeste literally doesn't get good until you start going for speedruns or golden berries.
Depends on the game. Usually I try and see as much content as I can but when 100% gets to challenge run territory 1cc/no hit the entire game/speedruns, or the content's just blatant filler like the Riddler trophies I start checking out.
>>619194771Its fun if its games like IsaacX
>>619194771Why do steam achievements feel so soulless compared to console?
>>619196143why? people who give a shit about achievements are mentally ill
>>619196509>easily hackable without getting banned>no satisfying popup sound effect>no special trophy or point system just raw number of achievements>no good UI to look at them and displaying them on your profile costs points/money
>>619194771>At what point does it start feeling like work and chores?When you're playing the game specifically to drive up those numbers, especially if it's one of those "play for 1 min to nab 100 achievements".
I usually play a game normally, then use 100% as an excuse to come back to it years later.
>>619194771>Is it funIs it's fun it is, yes.What a retarded question.
>>619196509Because PC games and gamers generally didn't adopt achievements as part of the game because MOD CONTENT, and even up into the late 2010s giving you actual in game stuff for doing shit in game hadn't been killed as a practice yet, so people didn't care.Like some of the biggest fucking pc games there are today outside of esports garbage meant to watch not playTF2Binding of IsaacSpelunkyThose games give you shit for doing stuff. Even if it's just like, making your lobby area cooler.
>>619196509>uhh these achievements are soulless compared to these other achievementstop zoomerpost ever on /v/
>>619196264I've got a steam account too but I feel like it's pretty much useless compared to PS trophies considering you always see your trophy count when looking at you PS account while I don't even have any idea how to see my total achievement count on steam.
>>619196804>I've got a steam account too but I feel like it's pretty much useless compared to PS trophies#2 zoomerpost ever on /v/bro...your achievements are all uselesshave you guys ever touched wood? like a board of lumber. honest question
>>619194771"Completing" games is a meme from back when games were mechanical challenges.In modern games the world is complex enough that just fucking around is satisfying. Really most modern games should be called virtual environment simulators or something so we can detach from the "games need to have rules" crowd.
>>619196845>he says while spending his time on useless shit like playing videogames and posting on 4channeldimwit
>>619196845I'm touching my wood right now.
>triggered by wood questionlmao its just a board bro its like just a 2x4 dont be scared man
They're fun unless you get obsessive about them which is easy to do. Obsessive as in looking at the % list to see if you can get 100% to boost your game completion rating, only buying games with achievements, avoiding games with tacked on multiplayer achievements, buying very easy nothing games just to boost your numbers (never did this thankfully). I stopped when the new year started and removed my achievement showcase. The only game I 100%'d this year was Signalis because I liked the game enough to do so. I got really into achievements when I saw the numbers go up, especially the game completion rating on steam. It was as low as 15% almost 10 years ago back when I didn't care about achievements.Basically play the game because you want to play and not with achievements in mind and yes it's fun. Like unlock all endings because you want to see the endings, not because you want the achievements for unlocking those endings, etc.
>still posting on 4channelgo back to being a lumberjack you larping tranny
>>619194771I do it to avoid my backlog/excuse to keep playing a game
>>619194771I like to fill checklists since I was a child so I find fun in getting those little achievements, even if they are worthless.
>>619194771depending on the games, yes. Nier is a nice one to do without cheating by buying themI've wanted to clear catherine but one of the achievements makes you play 64+ levels of a side game
Everyone's definition of 100% is different.
>>619194771Seeing an unfilled bar makes my anxious so I want to 100% a game to fill the bar.
>>619197125>unless you get obsessive about them which is easy to doNo, no it's not. Don't chalk up your failures as a person to things being "easy to do". you are afraid of life and experiences so you insulate yourself into these controllable worlds that you dominate. This is an issue that is detrimental to your experiences as a personyou will probably respond angrily, as zoomers are more and more prone to do. but don't. just stop getting achievements.
Oh shit, the 4chan psychologist is here
>>619194771Really depends on the amount of collectiblesGTA 3 and VC are really fun to 100% while SA and IV are a chore because of the 12512987 pigeons/horseshoes/clams/tags you need to find on a bigger map
>>619197125I won't buy a game if it has tacked on multiplayer achievements. Darkest Dungeon is the worst culprit in this regard. I don't think any of the multiplayer achievements are above 10% with most in the 1% range. It's part of why I'm skipping DD2. It shows a clear lack of understanding from devs.
>>619197343Well for one I'm in my mid 30s, so I'm not a zoomer. I'm also disabled with a lot of free time on my hands (military benefits so I don't have to work anymore), so for me it was easy to do, and it still applies to a lot of people and that doesn't maek them failures. And yes I stopped at the beginning of the year and I'm enjoying my hobby again.
>>619194771Does 100%ing improve the experience or adds something to the story? Then yes. If it is only collectibles, then no. I liked games like Chrono Trigger because completing the game 100% did actually reward you with side stories and another ending.
>speedtranny achievement>achievement locked behind multiple runs of the game>achievement behind irl events i give a game just a second try at best if it was fun but most of the time i don't give a fuck when it's an achievement locked behind a challenge (play the game with x condition) rather than a part of the main game (ex: secret optional bosses)
If I like a game, think it's fun and think the achievements left over after beating the game is doable then I go for it. I think Halo 4, especially the beat Spartan Ops on legendary/solo was one of the most unfun achievements I have ever done and upon perfecting Halo 4 I uninstalled that individual game leaving the other ones up knowing full well I will never replay it ever again in any form. I think Assassin's Creed Odyssey was the most boring game to play, like it literally felt like doing a job that game is padded to fuck with boring shit. I guess achievements did help me be more selective with games. If a game is shit and I have a feeling I will drop it before even beating it I simply won't play it at all and play something else which is much more fun.
>>619196845What happens if you touch wood? Do you complete life? Does that suddenly make me a real human bean?
>>619194919in such situations I would just either SAM or cheats to make stuff faster.I don't feel regret cheating to unlock achievements that require time wasting instead of skill
>>619194973Basically this. I can replay a game for hundreds of hours if I find it fun but I have never really tried to 100% anything
>>619197480I avoided games with tacked on multiplayer too. Back when I didn't care about achievements I had a lot of co-op games I played with friends and a lot of them I only earned like 1-10 achievements and there was no way I was going to replay those again since they're dead now (the games not the friends).
>Get to Number 1 on the Global Leaderboards
>>619194771>hated collecting all the flags in AC1>loved 100%ing it including collecting all the flagsfun is subjective but there is an obvious sense of satisfaction for actual 100%s though i loathe when a game has 100% complete yet i find new content that isnt some 70 step super obscured easter egg never intended for regular humans to experience
>>619194771Games that I 100%>I love them a lot to do everything>not tedious to 100%Games that I don't do 100%>difficult games like souls games>games that tell me to do hundreds of challenges and activities >multiplayer only games
Never gave a shit about achievements, for me a game is done when credits roll or when i feel i got me moneys worth.
>>619197886>Tfw getting to top 7 on a leader board after all the obviously cheated times
>>619196524I got all the other achievements by natural play and my autistic lizard brain wanted to see a full bar
>>619194771I 100% Lego City Undercover and all I got was this stupid giant mode that still locks me to small mode physics
>>619194771>Is completing games to 100% fun?It unironically depends on what constitutes 100%.
>>619194771It's fun if I love the game and if doing it feels like a fun use of my time. There are games I love where I have gone full completionist and there are games I love where I never even glanced at the achievements to see what I could unlock. I love Red Dead 2, I have over 300 hours played but I have never tried getting 100% in it, it just wouldn't feel organic at all to the way I play and interact with that game.
i cuck myself with games like kenshi or rimworld because i always have the same few 'story nodes' i have to run through from last playthrough to make a 'complete' run narratively speaking.its autism.
>>619194771Imagine actually going out of your way to earn achievements, zoomers are ADHD dopamine addicted retards.
>>619194771i am pretty sure i have 0 games at 100% on steam and ive been playing pc games for over 20 years as my main hobbyi just literally dont give a fuck about fake dopamine extrensic video game value shit they feed to zoomers, it's not just achievements that i don't care about, it's literally ALL of the stupid shit like skins, in game currency, prestige, all the vanity shit that has nothing to do with the core gameplay of the game is valueless to me
https://github.com/gibbed/SteamAchievementManagerFree yourselves from the yoke of goyslop skinnerboxes.Return to gaem.
The only 100% games I have on steam are Batman Arkham Asylum, Deus Ex Human Revolution and Elden Ring.
I don't think I've ever stopped playing a game after getting all achievements. if that happened, seems like a pretty good indicator that it wasn't worth it and I forced myself to do it.Got all achievements for Bloodborne in 2015, last time I played it was 3 days ago.
>>619194771It is not. You're not playing the game, you make the game your job. You have to play a very specific way to get rarest achievements and usually going 100% means you will never open the game again. Achievements kill the illusion of freedom and set hard goals for the game. Fuck that, I tend to ignore them or just use SAM and unlock them all from the get go.
>>619197757i am curious anon, what is your opinion of achievements that dont match the genre or gameplay of a specific game?the example i have in mind is stardew valley. all the achievements are based on game knowledge or grinding, with the exception of two. to beat an arcade game and to do it without taking damage. its kind of like a binding of isaac mini game sort of. the game play is absolutely nothing like anything else in stardew valley and they're the only achievements i dont have because i am tragically bad at games like that.
>>619199036the only thing more autistic than achievement hunting is using an external program to unlock them
I beat the game when I decide that I did.It might be only after I saw the credits with a pirated release with no achievements at all, or hundred of hours after I got all the achievements on a legit copy, it doesn't matter.For a few rare games I did want to get them all but it's rare, not to mention I rarely use Steam.I do use Retroachivement, but just show the consolecucks that you can beat games using emulation.
i have freed myself from the burden
>At what point does it start feeling like work and chores?when you finish it and still need to go back to search "what i'm missing?"
>>619194771Platinum trophy hunters concern me. Dudes love posting their platinum screenshots into gaming subreddits
>>619194880Honestly thisIf me completing a game requires I collect 10,000 dolphin butts and 4 other things as much, fuck it. If the game is actually fun and the achievements gameplay oriented instead of some grindfest bullshit then I don't mind doing achievement hunting
>>619196509No bleep bloop, same reason trophies suck
>>619197732>LASO achievements I respect you but holy fuck I do not have the patience or time for that horseshit
>>619201972Trophies are for fags anyway
>>619194771I don't see the point.If it's not something that would add to my enjoyment of the game, why bother?The only game I've ever 100% is elden ring. And that was just because I noticed I was only missing one after doing my second playthrough and all I had to do was collect a single item.I never actively go out of my way to complete any.
turns people into weirdos that buy the absolute worst games made so they can get another completion. and then theres the whole boosting thing and people buying multiple consoles.
Depends on the gameIf it's something i'm already playing for fun and i have a bunch of optional challenges left out, why not?Also often achievements are a good way of exploring content, i didn't enjoy much Doom (2016) on the first run, but then i went back in because i wanted to complete the upgrade all weapons challenge, and i had a blast trying different playstyles. I ended up playing it 3 more times
>>619203031that also helpswhen you only need a small shit to 100% you may aswell check if its fast and do it
>>619194771One of my friends has platinumed several Dynasty Warriors Xtreme gamesThat means unlocking all weapons and beating all stages with all characters on the hardest difficulty I watched him stream some of that and just watching it felt like a chore
>>619194771anything over 70% is mental illness territory
>>619194771No. At that point its just for bragging rights
Depends on a game.Neon White was fun and rewarding to 100%.Doom had multiplayer achievements and I just don't like to multiplayer.And then there are those games which are just "do this boring thing 1000 times" achis...
If I enjoy a game I try to 100% it because I want to play more of the game. But if 100% turns into something that I don't enjoy then I stop.Only exception is La Mulana which I love but some of those achievements are retarded and I don't recommend anyone do those.
>>619203310>That means unlocking all weapons and beating all stages with all characters on the hardest difficultyi remember doing something like that on ninity-whatever was called for 360 on my achievement whore daysnever again
Furi and Dishonored games were insanely fun to 100%.I'm thinking about going back to Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts and cleaning up what's left - 4 cheevos, I think.
>>619203786>Dishonoredthe DLC optional challenges can get fucked
>>619203876Yes, they were a pain in the ass.Anything that requires you to buy the DLC to 100% and / or multiplayer shit is fucking miserable.But it was good 5 years ago and I was too retarded and too stubborn to give up.
>>619194771Really depends on the game.Some achievements can be a stupid, mindless grind.Some achievements are awarded for actually being good at the game (i.e.: no deaths or similar). Those can be worth going after for added challenge.
>>619203876considering playing this next time i use gamepass but dont know what to expect (i ran out of gamess there to play so only have like 3 now)
>>619194771I only do it if I really like the game.
>>619204348Not-so-hard stealth / action hybrid.I advise going ghost + lethal.
>>619204348I liked it enough to finish it with every playstyle, it has a ton of replayability because if for example you do a no blink run the maps change vastly
>>619196001Grim Dawn is the most grievous example of this.The last killing monsters achievement says kill 250,000 monsters in a single save file, but playing through the whole game on all 3 difficulties and doing 100% all quests/sidequests only gets you 59,000 kills.
>>619194771Depends on how much I like the game and how annoying the trophies are. Dark Cloud 2 has some bullshit trophies, but since it's one of my all time favorite games, I had a fun time getting the platinum.