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UDYR REWORK
https://youtu.be/kfyDoF658HA
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>>608106206
I love china so much bros
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LAAAATTA BITCH
OPEN D GATEZ
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He looks like fat sylas without the pelt. The fuck were they thinking

Praying they never touch chogath
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Don't be hypocritical, you fucking faggots
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>>608107149
At least Udyr isn't fat
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>>608106206
League sux but the card game is ok
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looks really fucking disappointing
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Such an uninspired design that caters to Americans.
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Soulless

I prefer his current look where the hide on his head changes to match the animal of the stance he's in rather than just change the colour of his arms like they've done in the rework. Isn't he supposed to be a monk? Why is everyone inspired to make masculine warrior characters look like fat Thor from marvelshit?
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I love Sona's huge breasts
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>>608106206
Not really a rework, his skills are pretty much the same
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>>608107881
Just use the ultimate skin then
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>>608107853
I wouldn't mind designs like of LoL before they went all in with China pandering, my problem is they're now making pozzed shit now.
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No dodge runes
no buy
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>>608106206
>auto attacks you to death
jk jk i haven't played in 6 years, i don't know whats going on
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>>608107964
So essentially Fiddlesticks? Unless you're trying to tell me the Rework just changes his model, animations, voice, etc and all they really did was tweak the damage?
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>rework gameplay trailer
>literally a mashup of 3 second clips of udyr right clicking champions with sub 300 hp
>zero clips of him running fast
What the fuck were they thinking
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>>608106206
they gut him lol

im glad i dont play this crap anymore
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Riot is so fucking retarded it hurts.
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>>608108085
They added a puddle to Phoenix, maybe it's an ultimate now?
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>>608106206
fat rob zombie
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>>608108085
Yea pretty much, he still just charges stances and auto attacks.
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SOULLESS
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>>608106206
Fuck Riot for supporting fags and trannies.
Fuck Tencent and their mass surveillance commie bullshit.
And fuck you niggers for still playing this game in the year of our lord 2022, how pathetic are you?
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>corny
- Dota 2 Enjoyer
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>>608107945
Based.
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>>608108160
The abilities are out. He can still level phoenix whenever (aka it's not his ult).

His actual "ult" is that he can re-cast his currently active stance while it's on cooldown to super-charge it. Q normally I think is still single target max hp shred (not dots though), so it just shreds harder. W shields harder. E gives him an unstoppable effect for like 1.5s with a bigger movespeed buff. R apparently the AOE storm moves independently from Udyr, I guess like Viktor ult? The CD on supercharge is apparently 40s flat, and decreases by I think they said 5% every time Udyr stance switches and lands 2 autos (think Lee Sin passive - you use a move, your next two autos are faster and do more damage)

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wh6o9i/udyr_reveal_trick2g/ij3wi5p/
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>>608106206
>still kinda looks like old udyr
>abilities still resemble old udyr

Riot is a bunch of fags and all, but this rework doesn't seem as soul destroying as the others.
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>>608106206
why is he from freljord instead of ionia now?
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>>608108225
Take the ARAM pill
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>>608107945
>>608108485
Sona is(not) for you
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>>608108567
What's the worse rework in LoL that ruined everything people liked about the champ?
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>>608109042
Nunu
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>>608108638
Idk, Mordekaiser isn't from the Shadow Isles apparently. Be glad it's actually a white guy, someone from the Freljord, and isn't another female or Ionian.
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>>608108942
>Sona is(not) for you
then what kind of men is she exclusively for?
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>>608106206
so they just got the themes from voli, anivia, ornn and the fucking sej pig and called it a day
cool
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>>608108550
>https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wh6o9i/udyr_reveal_trick2g/ij3wi5p/
It looks like the anivia ult part of phoenix detaches when you awaken it
Also this trailer is way worse than I thought since almost none of these effects are represented well visually besides the cc immunity eating an ashe ult
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>>608106206
>fat for no reason
>cryophoenix instead of regular phoenix
>bear isn't stun anymore
Soulless. Also he's apparently Sejuani's dad now? The fuck happened to the lore?
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>>608109536
>he's apparently Sejuani's dad now
Wait wat
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>>608106206
cool, when are they reworking the game into not being a piece of shit?
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>>608109228
You know who they are they can speak for themselves
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>>608106206
Hes still an auto god
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>>608109042
Urgot
I'm still seething
Special mention to ap Sion getting deleted
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>>608109042
Galio, Aatrox, and Swain are probably the worst offenders since they didn't do anything to just fix what didnt work with the champ gameplaywise and basically made new characters entirely for them
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>>608106206
Same energy.
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>We haven't had a new Freljord champ since 2017
>Only 2 Freljord champs to get reworks to my knowledge is Volibear and Udyr
>Viking theme is extremely popular atm in entertainment
Why don't they make a new Freljord champ? Unless devs count reworks as a whole new character?
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>>608110234
the reworks are decided by the "community", and as far as new champs go they are literally all over the place
also i think feljord just isnt that popular especially since it doesnt really fit in the adhd multiple dashes on each champ meta they have with the new champions now
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>>608106206
So glad I got permabanned
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>>608110234
>devs count reworks as a whole new character
iiirc champ updates are more work than making a new champ
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>>608106206
>just some obese hunchbacked retard with zero body hair awkwardly punching things now
I'm not always firmly in the camp of old good, new bad, but this is just awful. Haven't really played since s4 anyway, so whatever.
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>>608110683
they are, because you have to rework every single skin for them, especially the old ones with multiples. This is why udyr took nearly 2 years to rework, he had an obscene amount of skins to redo (each skin had 4 formes to model)
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>>608109042
nunu and swain for me
Nunu new look is awful
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>>608106206
Amazing it's garbage! Zero soul compared to the original udyr.
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>>608109042
Karma and Aatrox were brutal. They took all of the magic Karma had and refocused it into being a champ that normies can play too.
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Why did they change his spirit animals?
You’d think because it’s a fictional world, they’d be fine with bending reality a bit, but this seems like they tried to make it animals that’d be more likely to live in their snow reigon.
Like why not just make up an arctic snow turtle, rather than make the phoenix ice themed and change everything else.
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>>608109042
Swain was a straight downgrade, absolutely noone liked it.
Aatrox got literally removed from the game, one of their worst blunders and theyre scared to do that ever again.
Besides that every one was decent to very good. I don't understand people who say Nunu or Udyr was ruined, anyone who ever touched the game knew both those champs were cancerous garbage that ruined every game they were in. The reworks actually make them somewhat interesting for once instead of superfast melee creeps statchecking you to death.
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>>608109536
>cryophoenix instead of regular phoenix
>bear isn't stun anymore
They made his stances the Freljord gods now instead.
Volibear, Ornn, some boar nigga, and Anivia
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>>608111334
since hes freljordian, it makes sense he channels the powers of the freljord gods (he already had a bear and phoenix, so it would make sense to match his other two to ornn and sejuani)
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>>608106206
They made Udyr look like a fag. Also he was better when his skin was brown.
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i'm glad they gave him a neon feather for his hair to keep him from looking too masculine :^)
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>>608106206
>YOU SHOULD REWORK YOURSELF
>NOW!
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>>608111470
It's literally sejuani's pig
Which doesn't make sense since sej doesn't have any shields in her kit
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>>608111779
>Sejuani's pig
Based Bristle
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>>608111779
No, it's a fourth god they put in lore
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>>608111881
Sejuani's pig IS the embodiment of the fourth god, like how Sejuani is the descendant of Lissandra's sisters
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>>608111546
I just like how universally understood the old animals were for indicating what his abilities did.
This one feels like they’re desperately trying to make him now have connections to other characters, like he can’t just have his own identity now.
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>>608107612
*vores you*
Those k/da cards need to be restricted.
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>>608112192
Fug forgot pic related
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>>608112192
Why? Go Hard and Feel The Rush are balanced. The rest are kinda shitty.
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>>608109536
>>608109590
He's not actually her dad, he's just a father figure if I remember correctly.
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>>608106206
>anivia ult
>voli passive
>ornn unstoppable stun on auto
PURE SOUL, anyone being angry at this is just a retard
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>>608112149
>This one
They did that a long time ago by making him one of Lee Sin tutors and tied that lore to his ultimate skin
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>beating up my wife
In the name of Demacia, I will decapitate you, worthless hobo
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>>608108753
Based. All I play is ARAM.
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>>608106206
Anyone else notice he doesn't have the chesthair or the tattoo's on his model anymore? T-Thanks Tencent I guess..
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>>608109042
urgot. went from ugly ad xerath with the ole lickaroo ult to EBIC FRIUCKEN BANE SPIIIDERRRR WOW SO MUSCLE DARIUS 2
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>>608112568
Since when were skins canon to lore?
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>>608109228
>>608109684
Her cowtits are for BBC

Big Bull Cock
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>>608112776
And his giant bull ass is made for BBC (barbed cat cock)
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>>608109042
Anyone who's giving you any answer but "Mordekaiser" is wrong. Old Morde and New Morde are completely separate champs and the replacement is fucking boring. Morde traded stealing the enemy adc and taking lanes with the dragon for I-walk-at-you-and-deal-damage. Only "audience" new morde has are fucking idiots too dumb to play anything else. Even the design got worse, which even the bad reworks manage to not fuck up.
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>>608113028
WHY THE FUCK IS KARMA IS SO HIGH? THIS GREEN BITCH IS LITERALLY USELESS AFTER 15 MINUTES. ENJOY WATCHING THE WHOLE TEAM GOING IN WITHOUT YOU PROVIDING ANY MEANINGFUL UTILITY. UGHHH. I FUCKING HATE HER SO MUCH.
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>>608113028
>Annie in A+
>Zoe in F
lol noob
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>>608112940
Hate bara with a passion but this gets a pass for that dumb Gundam pose.
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>>608112776
>>608112940
stop this
she isn't built for that....
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He looks so fucking stupid. Why do they turn animations slow as fuck, soulless and lacking in impact compared to the original. They could have left his theme in tact and just built upon the pre-existing stances while making the animations cool. Now he looks like a fat cunt with bad animations with zero impact behind them.
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yo I liked playing udyr back when I played league
t. quit when akali came out
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>>608107881
more appealing to chinese kids and their (parents) wallets
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>>608109042
Probably Nu-Swain, I really like his new visuals and he's pretty fun but it shouldn't have come at the cost of his old kit
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>>608106206
Genuinely a downgrade, they played too much into the samey shit Freljord aesthetic and less into him being a martial arts god
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>>608113028
i have a feeling this tier list isnt about how good the champ is in the game
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>>608107853
>caters to americans
nigga they are <10% of the playerbase
china has held the reins since 2017
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>>608113838
>Hokds the rein
>Recently started to become fully pozzed in the western release of the game
If only China can step in and say no.
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>>608109042
Malzahar. They went in on the voidling gimmick even though add gimmicks in LoL are terrible. Gimped his AP ratios in the process too. Personally liked him more when he was a slow, vulnerable but big dick damage through some basic but unique spells. Should've reworked his passive and nerfed his ultimate and left it at that.
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>>608114163
>>Hokds
Holds*
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>>608113028
>No Illaoi
Choose your next words very carefully on why so.
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>>608106206
Why change his animals?
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>>608114163
the US hasn't had any influence on the game for a long time. Ask yourself, when was the last christmas event?
How many Lunar events have there been?
American influence on the game
>maybe high noon event
>um uh um uhhhh Legends of Runeterra card deck cover as a reference to fan autism that isn't even official
Chinese influence on the game
>Bel'Veth,Renata Glasc,Zeri,Gwen,Viego,Seraphine,KDA everything, Samira,Yone,Lillia,Sett,Aphelios,Yuumi,Neeko,Kai'Sa,Zoe
>almost every single skin
>League of Legends - Star Guardian 2022
>Anima Squad 2022 - League of Legends
>League of Legends - Lunar Revel 2022
>League of Legends - Debonair 2021
>prestige skins
>night and dawn
>every non high noon event
>literally everything since 2017
https://youtu.be/NZteyvVxzwI?t=153
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His playstyle before was fun, haven't played in years but being a speedy split push guy aggressively walking at people cycling stances was cool
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>>608115039
Is this from some reddit poll with a small sample size? Because I guarantee you there are way more waifufags in NA.
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>>608115220
iirc, he doesn't state the source
but he did(does?) work for riot, and hes a data scientist, so he should be very aware of sampling bias and thus avoid it as well as, have had access to good 1st party data
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>>608115358
Sounds like bullshit to me.
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>>608115039
you also need to mention on them chopping the xmas and halloween events and doubling down on chink events
america lost
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>>608115390
,':^/
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>>608113028
>dussy that low
coward
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>>608115436
chinks REALLY like their anime and free to plays
and theres literally over a billion of them
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>>608115039
>Akali and Kai'sa are lesbians in the SG VN apparently
>Leona and Diana are lesbians
>Twisted Fate and Graves are now gay
>Zeri's "We all belong here" line reference
There is definitely American influence.
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>>608115538
Also forgot:
>Censoring Caitlyn by getting rid of her giant rack and dress
I can only imagine how long til Ahri and Miss Fortune get the same treatment.
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>>608114671
The unironic only good post in this thread. Cute pacific islander wife.
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>>608115538
>absolutely none of it is official and is only implied
but regardless, even if it WAS official, one time lines and character romances that have 0 actual bearing on the bulk of the game do not compare to every single champion and skin since 2017
>>608115625
nigga there are SO many waifus in this game, yet you are focusing on a single champion changed so they don't look like retarded whores in Riot's massive vanity project?
Yeah that was probably american/french influence since bugmen have a high tolerance for anime at the expense of cohesive design, but its a drop in the bucket compared to literally every other design choice
besides, since 2017 there have been 12 new waifu bait anime champions (with only 9, who merely don't fit the "Waifu" part)
you can coom to a smorgasbord of droll/banal designs or whatever it is insectoid pheromones attract
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>>608116158
So you would defend if Miss Fortune and Ahri got their tits removed as well as making characters gay.
Got it.
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>>608109042
I miss old Pantheon...
He's better now in the support role goddammit. How did we get to that?
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>>608113092
Dragon Morde IS the rework, retardo.
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>>608116870
Somehow in high ranks panth is also decent in top and jungle though. Now that i think about it he is one of the more versatile champs in the whole roaster.
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They should have kept the antlers, he has no character going for him, he literally looks like a guy/npc
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>>608116613
no, actually, I wouldn't
I also hate the fact that they keep making characters gay because homos are disgusting. And because I'm tired of it. I think there are now more gay champion relationships than there are same sex friendships amongst the champions
I want more GOOD champion diversity
I want to see another Aurelion, Yorick, Tahm, Illaoi, Rek'Sai, etc
ANYTHING besides YET ANOTHER boring anime/waifu character
When they made Seraphine I knew it was over, the game I loved as a child because "bro its like DoTA but better!" was dead.
And all the data points to it being dead because of the Chinese
Waifu anime bait? Chinese love it
Literal color palette swap to a "rich" aesthetic? Chinese love it because its ""prestige"".
Every skin being either anime themed, Asian themed, or just a literal fucking fancy suit? Chinese love it
The chinese have zero taste, because they're third worlders with 0 access to women due to retarded CCP policies absolutely obliterating their demographics. And absolutely no history of consuming anything original because all their country can do is copy.
I miss when Riot could be bold with champions, now all they can make are whatever sells to the bug hive net-cafe
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>>608106206
>Multi billion company
>cheap ass animation
Always.
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>>608117394
I'm tired of the anime girl stuff to but it's unironically far better than the devs trying to make the game pozzed as shit with censoring the girls and making everyone gay.
Sona had her entire tits removed in her SG skin which resulted in China screeching to update her chest size in that skin.
Funny enough, only female champ I use is Lissandra.
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>>608109042
Galio 100%.

killed personality
killed satisfying playstyle
killed chad gargoyle theme
New ult sucks terribly
kit doesn't mesh particuarly well
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>>608117772
>would unironically prefer copy pasted designs based on an AI's response to "generic anime girl" than the occasional brown person amongst actual variety and daring design
I hate people like you so much its unreal
however, Lissandra is one of the few female champions that I actually find compelling. So maybe you aren't all bad
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>>608118017
The next champion is apparently a shirtless black man top tank from Shurima.
Shurima used to be based off of Ancient Egypt and only recently did they start turning it into Wakanda.
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>>608118243
>sett but black
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when the fuck is it coming to game pass? I want all champions so I can play this shitty game again

also primal udyr > all other udyr skins
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>>608118539
>Primal is best
Don't look at its rework then it's a fucking travesty.
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>>608109042
Skarner, I'm still seething
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>>608109042
katarina rework butchered all old katarina mains.
who care about reworks tho with retarded shit like yone and yuumi releasing on the monthly.
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>>608106206
I thought about returning to the League, but then I remembered that every rework nerfed into oblivion after 2 weeks because Riot doesn't want that old champions compete with the new ones. So no thanks.
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>>608109042
Akali's rework managed to make her 100x more annoying to play against but I guess she's more fun to play.

Urgot and Swain being stripped of what made them unique and turned into generic champions sucks. I only ever see them played by people when they're broken unlike before where they had dedicated players.
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Gonna miss this nigga like you wouldn't believe.
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Anything substantial for Soraka/Nami since season 5?
Last time I had fun with Soraka and Warmog
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>>608113092
bot Morde was always retarded and giving him shitty ad scaling so he could just go tri-sterak like every cucked toplaner was miserable
The month or so before that shit rework when they just made his w speed him up was actually decent, numorde is just ap darius and still far better than his first rework
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>>608119195
Soraka can get Warmog as a 2nd item now and have the passive be online.
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>>608106707
STOP THE PORTS
Is trick2g actually still making money off of league, I haven't looked him up in like 7 years
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>>608116098
>cute
you like men
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>>608119976
More like you cannot handle muscular women. Just say you're weak.
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so glad I'm not playing this garbage anymore
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>>608120260
same brother
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>>608106206
>No more turtle
Soulless
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>>608106206
why does this game look worse visually than it did a decade ago?
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>>608109042
Aatrox was reworked not because he was bad, but because Riot decided that they didn't want his playstyle in the game anymore.

Fuck e'm
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>>608106206
This looks unfathomably bad.
This also looks almost nothing like what they've been showing all this time.

HAHAHAHAHA YOU'VE WAITED YEARS FOR THIS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU IF YOU'RE STILL PLAYING THIS PIECE OF SHIT YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE YOU JUNKY HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>608116953
This, only good morde is OG morde. Where you'd lost most 1v1s, but the moment the jungle showed up to gank you'd get a free double kill because people underestimated how much more shield he got from having 2 enemy champions.
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>>608122423
he also had a pickrate so low you couldn't even measure it by a tenth of a percent
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I'm still butthurt at Chronoshift flaunting how "exclusive" they were with letting people play Season 1 LoL and then getting DMCA'd and not releasing anything publicly.

Fucking attention trannies
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>1 less champ left to guard my nigga Malphite
>But also 1 more champ that got their graphics upgrade before my other niggas Lulu and Veigar
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>>cold fury of the Phoenix
>>phoenix
>>cold
>>Phoenix
>>Mythical bird of fire that burns up and us reborn from its ashes

They can't do anything right.
Do they think they're clever or something?
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>>608115538
Imagine having full of most sexualized ladies and trying to make them dyke, because male gazing League is lost cause.

You even got TF and Graves cringe, these retards are just hire to ruin the whole story and characters.
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>>608123059
He has the powers of the ice demigods, Anivia is the "cryophoenix"
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>>608123059
it's based on anivia retard kun
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>>608109042
Art & Lore - Trundle. For context when Riot was lore updating Freljord it had only a couple champs so they started throwing in others for no fucking reason. Part of this was ruining Trundle who was a really cool and unique champ, and also throwing Gragas there because he wanted cold beer or some shit.

Gameplay - Swain. They took a really cool DoT/Drain mage champ who would win wars of attrition and turned him into a piece of shit burst mage (all frontloaded in R) with a bunch of awkward skill shots (rework means removing as many point and click skills as possible).

Basically the type of champion he was, Riot did not want to exist in modern League where everything is about being instantly burst down and not having any meaningful resource restrictions like "mana costs" or "cool downs".

Special mention - Skarner. There was a gamemode that was so unpopular Riot removed it from the game, and basically placed it in Skarners kit for no coherent reason. Essentially they removed his passive, except on specific territories of the map which let the enemy team know where Skarner whenever he captures one.
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>>608123059
>Volibear
>Anivia
>Ornn
>The boar that never will be champion, because he's male and beast.
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>>608112770
Some skins are considered to be canon, but the list is not disclosed and you have to see through the lore.
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>>608115039
>China
>11/16 are cute humanoid girls

>Ameritroons
>Only 4/16 are humanoid girls
>Everything else is pricks and furshit
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>>608106206
>abilities are just holograms of animals

this is so fucking lazy omg

Pantheon was the last rework with actual effort put into it
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>>608124054
He thinks canon in league has any value anymore
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>>608124250
Just pointed things out to that guy, I have lived through 10 years of league just to see it get destroyed, idc at this point.
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>>608106206
>cold fury of the phoenix?
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another rework?
why?
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>>608122686
And? Ivern is low picked as fuck and they haven't done an emergency rework for him yet. Pickrate is the smoothbrain answer they give when they realize making the champion better makes their brain hurt and not make whatever cringe skin instead.
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NEW BAD
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>>608124353
Every character has to be connected to every other character now. So instead of Anivia being a unique Ice phoenix, she's the only phoenix so Udyr now gets his powers from Anivia directly.
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>>608124363
Literally everything released before like Zed is queued for a rework
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>>608124505
>all the champions ive ever liked are due to be gutted
not that i ever would want to get back into league but thanks for the reminder why
is fiddlesticks fucked yet?
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>Watch LoR cinematics
>Someone says Leona and Diana were lesbians
>Someone questions that weren't they sisters
>Guy who says they're lesbians says they were always lesbians, they were just censored, but now they were restored by the original creators
>Watch some LoR interactions
>Someone says Vi needs a model rework like Caitlyn
>That makes no sense because she's already covered up to begin with
>They start complaining about coomers and some other shit
Who the absolute fuck are these people? These Twitter users? Do most LoL fans even give a shit about this type of stuff?
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>>608124454
>OLD GOOD
>NEW BAD
CORRECTAMUNDO
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>>608124446
Aatrox was a garbage champion akin to old Yorick, nobody played him until the last minute when they gave him massive buffs and then everyone pretended to like him all along
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>>608124590
my brother in christ everything that isnt straight up league is its own bastardized thing at this point. and riot is being mentally retarded (as usual) stretching themselves so thin on 200 different projects that nothing with the actual league game itself is getting done
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>>608124590
to be fair vi's current design does look like overdesigned shit now
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>gets nerfed to the ground because of literally one streamer
WOOOOOOOW
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>>Perfect champ design
>>Has a personality that knows it
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lol
lmao
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>>608124750
The nerfs did nothing, and that's not the first time they had to nerf "inting sion"
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>>608115220
>I believe thing
>Evidence presented that contradicts belief
>Evidence must be wrong
>I have no proof it is wrong but I still will not change my belief

Many such cases.
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>>608124804
based gangplank
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>>608124660
Here's a question, what the made him garbage when his numbers ended up being no different than current top laners?
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>>608124804
>gangplank is healthy game design
>being able to one shot you 50 miles away is good balance
>having a karthus ult (but better) that can be used anywhere is balanced
>having a self heal that is also a cleanse is balanced
kill GP again please
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>Star Guardian VN is so awful that even Reddit just skipped the whole thing
How do you manage this?
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>>608125278
just hit his barrels
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>>608123812
Is the boar not Sej's Bristle?
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>>608106206
>LoL reworks
F for actual LoLfags.
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What's the last rework that people actually liked?
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>>608109042
Fiddlesticks. Oh boy, they obliterated the little guy.
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>>608125538
Warwick
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>>608109785
The recent changes to swain make him a lot closer to old swain at least.
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>>608125482
Iron Boar is the god of the Tryndamere's extribe.
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>>608113028
>Samira, Vi, Riven and Sejuani that low
SHIT list.
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>>608109042
Akali.
Not saying the new Akali isn't very well designed, but deleting a character never sits well with me.
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>>608124590
Basically it went
>League launches with a lot of hot babe champs
Everything was fine, anyone who cried was rightfully considered a bitch.
>designer called Iron Stylus gets pissy about hot babes existing and creates Leona and Diana who were less sexed up armored ladies
These designs were solid but then he also made Quinn who was dull as shit and censored Sejuani because "it didn't make sense she would wear a fur bikini in the cold" (ignoring Trynd and Olaf who were exposed viking dudes). This is what starts the "Leona and Diana were secretly always lesbians" idea because Iron Stylus would absolutely be that obnoxious.
>League eventually starts catering to chigger money so now champs and skins becomes ultra coomer again, 100x more than ever before as monster champs are only allowed once every 5 years and every guy champ has to be super model attractive too (but it's the East Asian ideal of what their hottest, most masculine men look like so still very low T and feminine)
Fucking Thresh gets turned into a bishi because they're afraid of skeletons.

Anyway Iron Stylus is forever a clown and it's the usual song and dance, hot outfits and busty women are a sexism issue when the West does it but all those morals and principles go out the window when their bread starts getting buttered across the globe.
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Who is the best designed new champ? Renata?
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>>608125904
Samira hands down
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>>608125904
There's no such thing, it's all gimmicky overbloated crap with zero balance.
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>>608125881
To be fair, the Tresh one is a skin and he still has his original look in the game. But Viego not having his armor is a fucking crime, it's much cooler than shirtless Spanish supermodel.
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>>608125881
Iron Stylus honestly ended up being the same kind of clown like Morello to me in hindsight. They were actually correct about their complaints but they were way too early and off the mark as to why at the time.
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>>608125904
the newest well designed champ was Nami. Haven't had a good one since.
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>>608106206
THIS IS THE FUCKING UDYR REWORK?

I don't play anymore but holy shit I'm mad.
Used to play Udyr in the good old S1 days and I can't fucking believe they rework him and STILL have him walk and autoattack you to death, but hey! Now with extra terrible autoattack animations.

I expected a lot more, ever since Volibear took his place as "I walk really fast and you can't stop nor kill me as I dive your asshole" Udyr felt so weak in comparison, also Trinity sucking ass doesn't help either.
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>>608124590
>>Someone says Leona and Diana were lesbians
>>Someone questions that weren't they sisters
What is this? Did they drop the sisters thing to make them lesbians or what? Because as far as I know, incestuous topics are still no no in large media? And why? Sisters of different and opposing faiths are much more interesting, than basically a 1000th rendition of romeo and juliet.
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>>608125881
>Iron Stylus
Is that the guy who got fired back in 2017/2018 because at PAX, he didn't let any white people in some big LoL showing to play the game?
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>>608126324
>Did they drop the sisters thing to make them lesbians or what?
Yes, last year, they had some LGBT mini event in June that have you 2 emotes to Diana and Leona together to celebrate them being lesbians.
They did the same this year too but now Twisted Fate and Graves are a gay couple.
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>>608126324
Because Riot became a woke campany, now even Twisted Fate and Graves are gays.
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>>608126480
Being gay is just cowboy tradition.
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>>608126480
And ofcourse none of that ever made it to china
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>>608126480
>have you
Gave you*
Also, that SG VN was about Kai'sa and Akali BFFs, (No self insert, you play as Kai'sa), that slowly drifted away. Now it's apparently becoming some yuri shit with a page of Akali running away crying saying, "You're so stubborn! I wished you understood my feelings that I... I..."
Funny enough, the VN is apparently Borderlands 3 tier that all of Reddit is just skipping the VN portion just to get the rewards, and the fact Wild Rift has the better story and characters.
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>>608106206
So is it true that they are making Udyr gay too?
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>>608126480
>Twisted Fate and Graves are a gay couple
Why would they butcher brothers in crime like that?
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>>608126637
>"You're so stubborn! I wished you understood my feelings that I... I..."
>running away crying
>Akali
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>>608126794
W-What
Ninja types with yakuza tattoos have feelings too you sexist pig! What do you mean she guts people with her kamas while performing superhuman acrobatics??! She too needs some muffdiving every now and then!
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>>608126637
>>608126794
>>608126907
Actually, I only saw an image of that moment on LOLG, I truly hope that was related to something else and I'm hoping to be proven wrong and that the devs actually kept a friendship to remain a friendship.
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>>608126671
They been to a prison. That how it goes.
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>>608126794
Even going by what I understood from her trailer, she is an anxious person, that will confront her issues head on when the time comes. She would be closer to pic rel in her reaction, especially with the whole "corruption from burning out" thing going on. And I'm sick of this childhood friend turned lovers shit, I want friendships remain friendships dammit
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>>608106206
>another shirtless dude super buff guy, yet new female heroes literally never show of cleavage or side boob and old female heroes also all get their cleavage and breast size censored
man modern video games really are super sexist towards man
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>>608127218
Wait, does it actually remain a friendship at the end or did they make them lesbians?
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>>608119458
He still streams.
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>>608127247
So why does Tencent not make Riot stop with all the pozzed shit? Think they'll remove the Vi and Cait lesbian shit in Season 2 of Arcane?
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>>608113092
That mini rework for morde was so fun. The three hit auto attack q was hilarious and making a dragon ghost was fun. He also gave an alternate playstyle for non adc players who got forced into the bot lane. tfw ywn play that version of morde ever again...
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>>608127384
Because Riot isn't on Chinese soil.
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>>608127247
>super buff guy
I wouldn't call him super buff, he has more of a typical plant worker build with super jacked arms and fat belly+man tits. Nevertheless, still sexist.
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>>608127465
Never forget what riot took from you. RIP Morde.
https://youtu.be/0deA1JUUZFQ
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>>608109042
Evelynn's rework was 3 years in the making and it was still so bad that she remained a troll pick afterwards.
>Nerf numerically, completely because retards can't deal with invisible characters
>Every other invisible or stealth character stays, or got buffed
>Don't touch her until you make her stealth auto-break if she gets close tot he enemy as a melee hero, and only hits at level 6
>Call it a rework because she now has melee-range skillshots
Still upset.

But Trundle still got it worse. That's how bad Trundle got it.
Fuck, I haven't played the game in over a decade and I'm still upset.
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>>608125691
my nigga
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>>608126671
bromance is dead.
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>>608106206
>abilities are basically the same
>model is a bit better, but still pretty shitty
What was the point?
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>>608126394
That's ZenonTheStoic, a german literal cuckold
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People that complain about Sion or Urgot reworks didn't played those champions. They translated pretty well the mess of an identity and gameplay they had before.
Maybe numbers aren't correctly adjusted, but they are just that numbers, I focus on the rework itself.

Cases like Pantheon could be fixed by having a classic skin and letting players play with the old based designs. There are more stupid and low quality skins in the game so it shouldn't be an issue.

Shit like aatrox or Mordekaiser is what you should be focusing on. Heck, they even made a poll about which ability to keep for Mordekaiser, community said ultimate, then they gutted it anyways.
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>>608128495
Seeing Udyr rework I still have no idea why they couldn't keep his AA design
>Sion complains
Do they really exist?
Very few people as today actually played a lot of old Sion and the new one (both in design and kit) it's pretty good
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>>608106707
D-CANNEEEEEE
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>>608128495
>community said ultimate, then they gutted it anyways
That was in season 9, can you imagine morde going around with a ghost of a fucking elder dragon? Or all the bullshit champs that came out since then? This is instawin, and that's baaaaad
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>>608128495
sion was a shit champion, urgot was cool as hell. Seeing the enemy run away from you while you are shooting heat-seeking missiles at him was the most based thing in the game.
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>>608128802
>Sion complains
I've seen some of those. I don't understand them.
The only thing old Sion had was the explosive shield, which current Sion has, it had a crappy point and click stun which now is so much better and still easy to hit if you aren't mentally retarded; his ultimate was just a stat buff, those are just numbers and that's it.
You can still use basic attacks Sion and you can still deal tons of damage while being super tanky; his current passive reflects on quick attack speed Sion.

I don't know why people complain about that one; it was a good rework.
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>>608126520
Anon, they were always gay. Even the person who made the two said this, it just never came to light since the same people INTJ staring breastfeeding women in the Blizzard's pregnancy rooms also defacto'd to Riot
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>>608113028
>Yordles aren't alone in S+++ tier
Literally homosexual
You do not appreciate the TIGHTNESS
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>>608128914
What grinded my gears is that they removed the ghost because they say it caused too many problems and bugs and then they do Sylas and Viego. And they still release bullshit like Askhan so the "it's broken" excuse doesn't work
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>>608127003
You mean this?
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>>608129137
This doesn't correlate to them two being canonically lesbo's in the LoL universe, only in that skinline universe. Apparently Ezreal and Ekko are a thing in the Pulsefire universe which everyone seems to have memoryholed
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>>608128959
That still happens. I'm an Urgot main and 95% of the cases enemy is running from me like a pussy. Maybe you don't have the Cassiopeia missiles now but they still shit their pants with your ult, and trying to dodge while they are low.
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I don't get why his model is so simplistic and lacks any detail. LoL hasn't worked on toasters in years so that's not an excuse anymore. The client with all these events and flashy animations is a huge performance hog meanwhile the game looks no different
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>>608128914
>can you imagine morde going around with a ghost of a fucking elder dragon?
first: yes, I can. Getting the elder is a game ender, that's just somee xtra damage on top
second: you can always "nerf" the dragon ghost if it's too strong
>>608129042
He is different enough but....old design was so confused.
New one is pretty soulful, somehow
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>>608129274
>I don't get why his model is so simplistic and lacks any detail
Udyr has ultimate skin that's why. If base model is good, there is no point in spending 3200 RP.
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>>608109042
Taric, maybe the new kit is far more interesting to play, but to me, its overdesigned trash, back then he had a simple yet effective with his 1:1 ap stun of 2 secs at level 5, just a perfect kit, but then Morello and his braindead logic that "healing in a MOBA is bad" killed him.
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>>608129397
At least new taric lets me be a complete chad top lane.
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>>608126079
I'm pretty sure that's now canon Thresh. And isn't it his default look on Wild Rift? Riot might start using it on their other projects, as it seems like he's been scheming something (Lore wise).
+ The Japanese Demon skin is also "Hot Dude" Thresh
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>>608129573
why would you play solo nu-Taric ?
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>>608129689
He stole some of Viego's power before he got sealed, pretty much reincarnating him while maintaining his spectral powers I believe and now he's allowed to leave the Shadow Isles whenever he wants to wherever
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>>608129137
Wait, did they make SG Kai'sa and Akali actually lesbians?
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>>608129901
He can legitimately outtrade a few duelists and is an annoying lane against tank top laners.
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>>608129901
Because AA resets in early/mid game is completely broken in solo fights and in the JG, this cunt has them on all of his abilities. Shield, CC and his heal CD is pretty much reset if he AA's anything once used
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>>608106707
LATER BIIIIITCH
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>>608106206
>they changed his animals
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>>608129990
Anon, it's 2022, everything in US is gay.
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>>608129996
>>608130050
fair, i can see the potential with his passive, the heal burns all your mana if you abuse it though.
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>>608129990
So it seems. A friendship of a street rat delinquent and a role model perfect student, ruined because yuri.
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>>608130226
Just buy mana and spam stuns then.
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>>608106206
God nu-league is ugly. It's ironic that it actually became more ugly by removing all the "ugly" things from it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nu-league's aesthetic is pandering to the Asian market. Asians absolutely hate any and all soulful character design, like actually ugly monsters (old Sion / Trundle). Everything must be "sleek" and "cool" to fit the Asian market.
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That rework is terrible, last post you can end the thread tnx
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Changing the animals to fit some gay ass lore they didn’t care about 10 years ago is blizzard tier writing. Tiger and bear stance are so much fucking cooler. They could of made spirit guard the default skin and it would have looked miles better than this bullshit.
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>>608130226
Tear solves that, but the item rework kinda fucked his ability to like 'efficiently' build solo in my opinion.
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>>608130375
Tiger and turtle*
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>>608129137
So what's the actual context of this scene here?
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>>608130375
>They could of made spirit guard the default skin
But how would they sell an ultimate skin for the freshly reworked champion then?
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For someone that hasnt played since 2013:
Did they ever come up with a solution to the stealth problem?
How is hiemerdinger these days?
Any good new titty monsters?
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>>608107149
>Hypocritical
God of Onions: Ebin Norse edition sucks colossal dick, don't pretend everyone is willing to slurp up Santa Monica stolen idea garbage
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>>608130456
Just rework the ultimate skin it would have been less work
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>>608130502
>Did they ever come up with a solution to the stealth problem?
No, in fact, they made a champ with almost perma stealth that isn't evelynn. Also, there is an item that grants you stealth on kills.
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>>608128495
>People that complain about Sion or Urgot reworks didn't played those champions.
Piss of dude.
Just because champs have a low pickrate, that doesn't mean they are shit or need to be remade.

I remember barely seeing any Urgot players in ranked back in the day, but if there was one, he usually fucked.
Sion's design might have been terrible, especially AD, but AP as fun build was totally viable and liked by a lot of people.

I mean holy fuck it's not any better nowadays, look at how people used to play Sion a few patches back, just rush Hullbreaker and run it down top all game long.
Same for Urgot really, tanky ranged champ on top lane that you can't get close to once you are behind cuz he can just press W and walk you dead.
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>>608130502
>Any good new titty monsters?
They've stopped doing that. Caitlyn got a new model and they got rid of her dress and tits so she's fully clothed now. Doesn't look like they'll try to do that again, especially with Star Guardian Sona being flat caused all of China to be outraged that they gave her chest back.
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>>608130502
Pink wards are replaced by control wards that reveal and block all other wards and reveal stealth except special stealth.
Also stealth has been powercrept to the point of no one caring.
Tons of coomer characters but none of them as hot as Ahri Sona
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Warwick is still the best rework they've ever made
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>>608130649
Don't forget they turned Cait into a chingchong
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>>608130708
Wait what? I don't see that.
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>>608130673
But even then I still do miss the old one
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>>608130502
If you look up the video there's some lunatic in Master's playing Heimerdinger JG with no flash soloing Baron at 20mins
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>>608129947
>referencing the absolute abomination that is the ruination event
Riot LITERALLY apologized for it
10 years of waiting, for THAT
God I hate the chinese
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>>608109042
Aatrox easily and it's not close

The others you can make an argument for in SOME case like Sion being disjointed and degenerate as fuck or Poppy being busted or Yorick being LITERALLY busted but Aatrox got it the absolute worst, not only did they remove the entire playstyle of the original champ but they then proceeded to slowly strip away the few things remaining that made him resemble old Aatrox at all, including his revive. The worst part was that old Aatrox actually became good and playable RIGHT before they butchered the fuck out of him and they didn't stop to delay or anything, they just fucked him up all the same

Any other champion is COPE, there is a fucking reason they call it getting "Aatrox'd"
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>>608129061
Didn't twisted fate tap evelynn. How's that gay.
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>>608126671
>characters of the same gender are friends
>THEY MUST BE FUCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
greetings from Kazakhstan
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>coomer game
>becomes popular
most effective catching net
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>>608109042
Master Yi
I loved playing AP yi
>wait until halfway through the teamfight to engage
>Q one low HP, kills them
>Q resets
>Q one low HP, kills them
>Q resets
>Q one low HP, kills them
>Q resets
>Q one low HP, kills them
>Q resets
>Q one low HP, kills them
>Q resets
>PENTAKILL
that was the time I enjoyed playing LoL the most
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>>608130321
wabi sabi - it just is

the more you take away from natural beauty, the more lifeless and horrible it looks
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You still play this? Have you no shame?
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>>608130620
What the fuck did you liked about old Sion and old Urgot that the currents ones can't do? They were a mess of a design dude. Sion still has the shield, stuns and basic attacks, Urgot has auto aim, his ult is now his e and still has the thematic of being "ranged but with less range than an adc". Your current Urgot ult works with the "I kill you from far away" without being bullshit and still giving the feeling of "unavoidable death".

What the fuck did you liked about the old ones?
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>>608106707
trick2g is so based
me and my wife still watch him daily because of how unhinged he is
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>>608131020
he still kinda works that way. but i think you build him AD now with that knife that makes you invisible after a kill.
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>>608131232
how is your wife's son?
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>>608109042
Tahm Kench mini-rework, turned him from a fat greedy bastard that just FUCKING EATS PEOPLE ALL THE TIME to some generic fat frog engager support.
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>>608131184
the game used to be fun man...
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>>608131298
pretty good, he also watches him
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>>608131298
Rekt 'em
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>>608107149
unironically i like how thor looks in this and i never understood why v hated it
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>>608130887
>The worst part was that old Aatrox actually became good and playable RIGHT before they butchered the fuck out of him and they didn't stop to delay or anything, they just fucked him up all the same
This was probably the biggest gripe I've had with his rework, next to Karma's. His kit needed some tuning with numbers and ratios if I remember correctly before we got a decent ad melee carry, and they proceed to remove him and THEN fucking changed/added items, stats, and runes that would've made him fucking great in modern league. Like what the fuck was the point then? I haven't been this fucking mad since Karma but she didn't get aatrox'd. They went "Q is nuke, W is tether, and E shields so she's still Karma :) "
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>>608131329
Classic league projects are killed by Riot all the time
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How was old karma? I see lots of people bitching about her?
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>>608130891
Fuck that was so fucking awful holy shit
Literally the only good thing about it was its backgrounds, which were more like paintings than anything else. Fuck is it overrated and astroturfed ridiculously hard by trannies.
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>>608131251
his Q deals way less damage now
with rabadon I could deal 500+ magic damage to everyone in the group on each Q hit
good times
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>>608109042
All of them lol. Maybe WarWick gets a pass but all of them are unnecessary and the fact Riot believes they are ‘required’ proves they fucked the game with unfitting updates & new champs who also never fit the game.

Instead of fixing that (that’d require admitting they’re wrong - which their ego won’t get them do, even though ‘we don’t think our champs have overloaded kits OVERALL’ accidentally admits some of them do lmao) they just drag the old champs into the new cancerous design style & ‘omg everyone MUST be EXTREMELY unique no MATTER the cost’ thought process.

They are now ‘this seems cool in theory, let’s immediately force add that’ > ‘this doesn’t work / isn’t fun in reality like we thought, skip that actually’.
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>>608126637
>>608126794
>>608126907
>>608129206
>>608129990
>>608130130
>>608130229
They're not lesbians, people were taking scenes out of context on purpose to make everyone believe they were.
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>>608106206
Udyr was already dead with the previous visual rework.
>>608125881
>Champs and skins become ultra coomer again
>Champs
Lol they've only added one coomer champ every three years after 2013, all league is pumping out is woke nonsense and barabait.
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>>608131610
What's the context then?
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>>608131610
Gurgling cum is not a personality trait, tourist. They ABSOLUTELY pushed the dyke angle in their trannime fanfic. But, """""""""''conveniently"""""""", you forgot to mass reply to that posts that proves it in particular. Dial 8 and die at 23.
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>>608109042
No one because people bitching just used boring to play or op champs. The reworks are miles better and more fun to play. They cant adapt.
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China and Korea good
USA bad
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>>608130891
>liked Cait and Vi as a duo from different backgrounds working together
>imagined them as cute girls doing cool things like from You're Under Arrest or Gunsmith Cats
>years of gay fan art were justified in Arcane
I hate it.
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>>608131194
I already stated that old Sion sucked mostly, but for example his shield is a complete joke now and neither shields nor deals dmg worth mentioning.
And his Q is by no means a stun you can easily hit with all the mobility in the game.

AP Sion was just fun in the simpler days okay? When your shield exploded near 3 people with its iconic explosion sound and everyone ate tons of dmg.

And Urgot was dumbed down and his cool old ult was replaced with retarded execute shit.
Old Urgot ult? could be used for epic outplays and actually change a team fight, new ult? I only see it used to steal kills from team mates 9 out of 10 times.
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what is with all these fucking losers who have not played the game for over 5 years still pretending they have any ownership over the game
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When was the last time Riot released a champion that didn't have any of the following:
>% max health damage
>DASHES
>completely aids mechanic like akshan/renata revives
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>>608125881
IronStylus had the most thinly veiled fetish for heavily armored chicks I've ever seen. Nobody presses that hard on something unless they're getting off on it. Dude had a type of woman and was trying to turn every female champ in the game into that.
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>>608131658
>What an anon on lolg says:
She's implying that Akali is struggling to fight the corruption and losing, and Kai'sa can't see it. But actually its all an act to get her to THINK she's corrupted, and she double-crosses Morgana at the end of act 3. Even claims she thought the crying and running is where she'd blow the act.
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>>608131818
It's literally impossible for libshits and women in general to comprehend platonic friendships and camaraderie. Especially so between men. Even more especially so if the fanbase is comprised primarily of terminally online goyim.
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>>608131912
Sett iirc
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>>608109042
Xerath
From a mage who just wants ultimate power to 'HAHA I AM A JAFAR WANNABE'
And his old kit was fun blasting bitches from miles away
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>>608131932
and that is based
Finally a chance to post this pic
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more cute girls a game has, the better
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>>608131932
Jup. I'm thinking sex with the purpose of impregnation.
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>>608131853
The new ulti is better to kill Tanks or Oftanks.
Just build around killing shit with big hp, then in a teamfight use the Ultimate on his face and focus. Since it executes at certain % that guy is dead. Use the fear you get to stun more.
It works better if Trundle and you focus the same guy, in 5 seconds is dead.
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>>608131853
>I already stated that old Sion sucked mostly, but for example his shield is a complete joke now and neither shields nor deals dmg worth mentioning.
>And his Q is by no means a stun you can easily hit with all the mobility in the game.
>
>AP Sion was just fun in the simpler days okay? When your shield exploded near 3 people with its iconic explosion sound and everyone ate tons of dmg.
But this is more of riots being fucking useless with balance and numbers and powercreep with other champions than Sion itself.

>Old urgot ult made outplays.
It was a point and click ult with shit range that took too long to execute and that just changed positions with extra stuff.

You are a ranged champ but you swap yourself with the enemy? Doesn't make sense. Only worked if the enemy was fucking retarded and didn't know how to position or keep distances.

Also I use Urgot Ult practically always with good success rate; after playing some games you get used to the ult and learn where to land. It's pretty cool to drag people backing out of towers or hitting people in bushes or jungle. It's very easy to hit now since they increased the range.

You need to understand that the old"auto aiming hit" was transformed now into w+ult. Old urgot is still there.
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>>608131489
She was "bad" because no one knew how to play with her and the game systems at the time didn't really help her out. She was my biggest lesson to complaining about reworking/overhauling.
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>>608131938
I hate this. You can't have friendship relationships in media because at the first moment they show any kind of partnership it's "OMG THEY ARE GAY!!!"
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What the FUCK is this?
Why in the absolute fuck did they just not give him the redesign they already gave him in the card game art?

This looks so stupidly goofy in every way
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>>608130894
Used to be canon in the old lore that you'd get updates with in the client, that got retconned out when Eve got updated. She now has her demonic orgy clique if you keep up to date with Legends of Runeterra
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>>608131976
He has true damage his ult scales with opponents bonus health too
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>>608132229
That just the normal skin, im sure the legendary looks amazing.
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>Dont worry the card game will save Ud-ACK!
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>>608130502
>Did they ever come up with a solution to the stealth problem?
Yes, they added so many other problems it doesn't really look like a problem anymore
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League has like 2 trillion players so
you lost /v/
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>>608106206
why does he look so fucking dumb
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>>608131976
Sett is a few years old at this point so that's pretty bad, though I always hated laning against him because he was manaless, had tons of true damage, worked really well with a lot of runes and his passive health regen is literally higher than Garen's passive at lower levels but it's active at all times.
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>>608132247
Eh, haven't played since season 7, I thought he was just a wrestler dude who punched hard.
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>>608106206
>they got rid of Tiger and Turtle
nu league of legends is so fucking soulless
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>>608132113
>It was a point and click ult with shit range that took too long to execute and that just changed positions with extra stuff.
>You are a ranged champ but you swap yourself with the enemy? Doesn't make sense.
It gave you like 150 armor / mr for 5 sec at some point iirc, which back then made you fucking invincible.
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>>608131329
>stomping people was so fun!
yeah, I can see that.
Sadly today you are forced to match against people around your skill level so you can't do that anymore
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>>608109042
Zac. My favourite champion and the new ult they gave him completely ruined the champs ability to play solo Q. Eventually they have him back his old ult and realised they fucked up. Still ruined my main champ for like 2 years the cunts.
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>>608130891
Why at times in Arcane, the girls look pretty but at other times, they look ugly as shit?
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>>608132281
They want the walmart audience
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>>608132415
New ult?
Like they removed the bouncing thing? what did they even replace that with?
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>>608132113
>Wahhhh, why do I have to be creative with my spells instead of oogabooga-ing and hitting my epic skillshot tm.
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No way....
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>>608131912
dunno why you would complain about a totally fine mechanic like %health damage
They just need to tune it, but it's something the game need, you can't just pretend everyone should force a Blade of ruined king
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>>608132446
Zac becomes a big puddle then bubble bounces enemies caught in him to whatever direction he wants. Think taliyah W. It was kinda fun as a skill.
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Now he turns into
Ice Penis Anivia
Thundercunt Volibear
Black Smith Ornn
and
Beerseeker Olaf
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Reminder that champion design peaked at Zed
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>>608115220
You greatly underestimate the prevalence of coomers in Asia my friend
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>>608132541
>but it's something the game need, you can't just pretend everyone should force a Blade of ruined king
There is runes for that.
There is also LDR.
There could also be a new version of DFG.

But no, they decide everyone should just deal extra dmg vs tanks for some reason.
Fucking retard.
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>>608132590
*Yasuo
fixed
:'^)
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stop playing this guys, play some singleplayer games instead
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>>608132702
SP games are for losers tho
Show me your singleplayer diamond rank
can't? thought so
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>>608106206
Looks garbage, I'm still not coming back.
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>>608132702
I did for a year but I feel empty as hell now
The mind focused on League makes the demons go away
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>>608115039
Ricecels... its over
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>>608132541
There's no defense against %true damage, it melts everyone, it melts tanks, you can't really itemize against it, there's no counterplay, you just get fucking destroyed if you're in even a second of CC. Playing low mobility champions feels awful.
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>>608109042
Galio's current iteration is terrible. He feels like shit to play in lane, his passive and Q feel meaningless, his taunt is easily telegraphed and is ult is so fucking slow. Previously his slowing Q/speed up E felt great to use in team fights, now you're just a tauntbot
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Every single time they touch Morgana she gets uglier and with the dumb sprint animation you can't convince me the designer isn't a troon.
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>>608132541
>%health damage
having this in your game forces defensive items to be even stronger, which in return forces the damage numbers to be bigger.
Eventually you end up with LoL of Legends where heroes die in 1 second in teamfights, or 3 seconds if they've specced into full tank.
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>>608132546
It was a cool skill but it made him extremely team reliant. The fun thing about Zac is that he’s a tank that can do quite a lot of damage and win games solo
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WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET
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>>608132590
Jhin*
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>>608132590
>faggot tryhard the character
It was at Ezreal.
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>>608133230
>Shurima started off being based off Ancient Egypt
>Even the girls like Sivir have the right skin tone
>Because of Black Panther, now they're turning Shurima into Wakanda
I'm really fucking tired of these devs
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>>608133364
>based off Ancient Egypt
You are aware that egypt is in africa and that both arabs and black people live there right?
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I think Targon is OP lore wise
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>>608133443
Sub-saharans (blacks) were nothing but slaves for the Arabs.
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>>608131020
>back when you could Q out of snares
Good times.
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>>608133443
You also do realize Pharaohs were found out to have European DNA in their system, yes? And what you're thinking are Nubians.
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>SG Kai'sa has interactions with Dark Star skins
Is this supposed to hint to a new Dark Star event?
Because Odyssey Rhaast had a voice line to a SG skin and a year later, SG 2019 happened.
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>>608134026
And European DNA is just African DNA, cradle of every human in the west, cope and seethe
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>>608108753
Aram balance is in the gutter right now after gw nerf and durability patch. That + new influx of CC. Some champs are just incredibly broken like Ashe, Senna, Kassadin.

t. 5k games ARAM main
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>>608106206
What was wrong with the original lmao. Laughing at anyone who still plays League of Trannies post season 3
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>>608109042
Fiora and Poppy
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>>608133230
>negroes and self hating mayo cockroaches pushed we wuz meme so hard they started to believe it
fucking lmaooo
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>>608134865
Disproven, they found far older skeletons in the greek regions.
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make a lol cassic server and bring back all dead champs
huge never ever but that's the only way for me to give this game a quarter of a thought
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>>608135292
Nope, cry about it all you want, you come from Africa and so does your entire bloodline. No amount of daily mail research will change that fact.
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>>608135386
Yeah it was supposed to mock nigs not to meme it into some fucking weird reality lmfaoo. Every egyptian setting is now full of nigs. I wonder how actual egyptians feel about that shits hilarious as fuck.
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>>608135304
Chronoshift almost became nostalrius but then Riot came and bullied them into shutting it down and giving their source code to them. The Riot representative who did it was such a power tripping faggot too
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>>608134103
Dark Star skinline Champs are the cosmic threats the star guardians fight against, the two skins weren't always interlinked but since the SG event with the special game mode (I'm still mad we'll never get another odyssey-esque event because Riot actively hate fun things in LoL)
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>>608135036
Didn't pander to chinks and gooks
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>>608135515
Wrong tho.
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>>608135796
That's okay, live in your imaginary world if it makes you feel better!
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>>608130091
it's lata newfag
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I mean GenG is good but LPL is so stacked they are probably the only korean team in the top 5.
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>>608135954
Rejecting the current state of archeological findings just makes you look like a retard. It's fine tho, you can be retarded as much as you want.
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>>608113838
more like 1-2%
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>>608106206
Another champion replaced with a new one that shares a name.
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>>608106206
rip tigerdyr
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>>608106206
Reminder we could be playing old league right now if this anon had bothered to upload the stuff from his USB
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>>608109042
shaco
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>>608109042
I hate how they made Akali a disciplined girl ninja into a muh strong woman gook bait with shitty tattoos. Will never play LoL again.
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>>608136526
Nothing wrong with him. He's either 100-0ing anyone he blinks on, tank/bruiser build 2v1ing cancer champs or baiting retards into his full AP boxes/clones littered around
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>>608131402
They wanted a pretty boy to fap to like in marvel
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>>608109042
All of them
>>608136461
If only.
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>>608136664
yes he has a lot of problems. they shifted his power spike from early-mid to mid-late. he was never good as an assassin. even non assasin champs like tris have a reset on her ability after she killed one. the passive change hurt him the most.
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>>608135292
Do you have a source? I'd love to read about it. I searched for it and found stories from 2019 detailing a skull fragment in southern Greece that is the oldest skeletal remains they've found outside Africa and will likely reshape theories on how humans moved into Europe, but it still reinforces that Homo sapiens evolved much earlier in Africa and then spread to other parts of the world.
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>>608132698
Yasuo is literally the start of the downfall.
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>>608106206
>ASSFAGGOTS
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>>608106628
I do too, most of the stuff I buy comes from there
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>>608136994
Yeah, the multiple much older bone fragments you probably found already but chose to ignore - in bulgaria and greece that indicate humans spread to africa at a later point. Just because the african countries allowed for a larger population doesn't mean they were the first. You're falling for the same pseudoscience as the people arguing about gorillas evolving near the same time period. Sorry to inform you that your 2000 school biology class knowledge isn't up to date.
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Stop fucking erasing everyone I used to play, Riot.
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>>608107881
Udyr was supposed to be a shaman.
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>>608109042
Can't pick between Urgot, Mordekaiser, or Swain. At least Sion sort of had commonality with his AD build.
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>>608122679
You only lost 1v1s until you got DFG.

RIP DFG, too good for this world.
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>>608131020
To be honest back when I played I was so glad they reworked that shit out of existence. It was the noobiest shit that plagued the game, you really couldn't lose with an AP Yi on the team unless he was somehow super bad.
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>>608109042
>Used to have a fun group of 15 people i played
>Left with singed and .Blitzcrank (who they also changed for the worse)
and my friends wonder why i stopped playing
Shen and Yorick were probably for the best even if i miss them
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>>608137340
I'm literally asking for a source so I can read about them. Are you going to provide it or not? I just got done reading about how Alzheimer's research was basically derailed for the past 16 years because of manipulated images in a landmark paper.
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>>608129061
stop spreading your half knowledge. The guy who had the task of rewriting them some years ago had the idea of making them fags, not the original creator/writer
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>>608113028
What do you call this terrible artstyle? I swear all of them look like they're out of some pulp comic with the most generic overshading.
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>>608128495
I DID play Urgot and Sion and neither of the reworks kept anything I liked about them, go fuck yourself. It was bad enough that Riot kept fucking old Urgot in the ass and ruining his Q because of whiners, but erasing him entirely because oh no the counterplay is dodging the E while putting in more shit that doesn't fucking have any at all was always complete bullshit.
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>>608112583
no it's fine she is a mage
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>TFW you're old enough to remember vanilla Udyr and then Udyr's REWORK

So now he's getting ANOTHER rework? What's funny is eventually League will have so many champions and each one will need a rework and then another rework to keep them from getting stale/outdated.
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>>608132415
>>608132546
I think Zac is the proof people won't accept thing that change too much a champ even when it's something really cool.
Zac old ult work fine but it's a bit boring. New one was indeed super team reliant but also very fun.
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>>608132652
>everyone should just deal extra dmg vs tanks
Generally speaking, it's fine on champ that should deal with tanks, like fighters,battle mages and adc. I kinda agree, assassin with %hp damage is not good, at all.
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>>608106206
>white guy with dreads
wtf based?
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>>608133014
% hp damage are litterally there for a reason, they allow to make champs that can fight tanks fine but also not burst squishy as fast as assassin.
After that, it's about balance and numbers
Sure, not everyone should have them, but it's fair design.
Another thing is that many champs don't actually get free % but the % scale with some stat, meaning it does scale like normal skills and that's a good thing.

>>608132829
%true damage is a whole different can of worm. it can exist, but should be very very small.
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>>608133780
>league lore
>league lore taken from the card game
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>>608133230
NOOOOOOOO NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE IN MY RACIST GAME
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>>608132247
Hit ult makes sense as you're supposed to be slamming someone big on someone small.
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>>608138726
this, it's not "this attack does %hp because...because they need it, ok????"
It's litterally just a way to put into gameplay the idea that "the bigger you are, the harder you will hit your allies"
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>>608106206
literal garbage
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>>608138609
He has got a point though, tanks basically exist to be unburstable, but even building BotRK basically destroys a tank in a lane scenario.

Tanks are in a weird binary in LoL where they either die to burst instantly or never die, doesn't help tanks exist almost entirely in top lane, jungle or as an offtank support with zero overlap between support tanks and normal tanks.
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>>608137340
>>608137837
Look, I even did more looking and found the actual article on Apidima 1 from Nature and it even says that Homo sapiens still dispersed from Africa:
>If this interpretation is correct, it documents—to our knowledge—the earliest known presence of Homo sapiens in Eurasia, which indicates that early modern humans dispersed out of Africa starting much earlier, and reaching much further, than previously thought.
>From "Apidima Cave fossils provide earliest evidence of Homo sapiens in Eurasia"

Feels weird that you're citing a recent controversial upending of established theory as evidence in favor of your claims, but calling its actual conclusions pseudoscience from a 2000 high school biology class.
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>>608136461
>season 1 server installer
I call bullcorn unless he actually were to upload it.
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>>608135515
Technically I have Indonesian blood in me despite looking white and not Asian at all but you do you.
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>>608109042
Galio. I don't hate his new kit, but he's a completely different champion and old Galio's design was much more unique and cool.
His new R is so impossible to balance so he's going to be forever gimped, I think they should give him old Galio's W and R, but they won't.
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>>608138894
>Apidima
Great but not what was discussed earlier. Go look up the 7 million year old jaw or the ancient footprints that alone date every fossil found in africa by a million years.
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>>608112706
I quit playing when they massacred my boy for some shotgun knee memes.
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>>608124569
rework changed his crow E into a scythe swipe, still silences. if he attacks you from out of sight you get feared. His wards are scarecrows which can detect wards and imitate his idle animation and either run away/flash away or pretend to ult at you. And he got a visual update. Pretty good champion update in my opinion
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>>608138825
Sett is actually a really well designs champion save for his Q.

>Q has % damage just so he can out-trade punching with tanks - bad design
>W has true damage so it punishes anyone who thinks then can facetank the impact, forcing people to avoid it by sidestepping and rewards sett who aims
>E is a great thematic skill
>R is one of the best designed ults in the game, fair and thematic.
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>>608135601
Wait? SG and Odyssey are set in the same exact universe? Wouldn't that mean there's 2 Jinxe's and Sona's?
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>>608138887
>tanks basically exist to be unburstable
Then they should have no damage and be cc bots.
No one want that, they got good damage, so they aren't actually unburstable
Using MMORPG design for a moba never end well.

The perfect point for tank is "decent damage, very tanky vs some classes but can still go down vs other, lot (LOT) of CC"
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>>608138609
>%true damage is a whole different can of worm. it can exist, but should be very very small.
12% on Vayne's W has always been cancer and it's only gotten once when they powercreep shit like Lethal Tempo and guinsoos, Vayne could kill a 8k hp Sion/Cho'gath in a single condemn
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>>608139006
you can see how little people care about galio by that.
It was a very disruptive change in design, but no one care about him anough to pull an aatrox
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>>608106206
>his abilities is based on freljordian gods
based
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>>608139081
>Q has % damage just so he can out-trade punching with tanks - bad design
I mean, I don't think "trying to let him be a toplaner" is a bad design.
But maybe you prefer him as a support or jungler
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>>608139443
Yeah, and vayne isn't exactly a new champ.
Fiora too.
the closest we got is Gwen
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>>608139471
So, when are we getting the Boar champion?
Never, because it's not a sexy boy/girl
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>>608139012
>Kelley questioned the significance of the fused premolar root. Some of the earliest hominins didn’t have these fused tooth roots, whereas some of the later hominins did, he said. Given this discrepancy, it's a feature “that may have evolved independently in several different lineages,” he said.
>“I really appreciate having a detailed analysis of the Graecopithecus jaw — the only fossil of its genus so far,” said Richard Potts, a paleoanthropologist who directs the Smithsonian Institution’s Human Origins Program. “But I think the principal claim of the main paper goes well beyond the evidence in hand.”
>“The evidence that canine root reduction indicates the hominin status of Graeco is also not very convincing,” Potts said. Only one canine root was studied. Plus, he said, there's no way to consider the root in the context of the entire tooth — the canine crown had snapped off. “So there’s little basis for accepting the exceptional claim that a 7.2 million year old fossil from Greece is the oldest known human ancestor!”
>“I'm the first to admit that what we have is less than ideal,” Begun said. “We need better-preserved jaws, and some limb bones to tell us if it was bipedal.” The site in urban Athens where the jaw was discovered is now too developed to hunt for fossils. But where the lone tooth was found in the Balkans, to the north across the Aegean Sea from Athens, ancient rocky outcrops remain.

Bud, the scientist who has spearheaded the idea that the African ape and human clade arose in Europe and that gorillas, chimps and humans arose from an early European member of this group that migrated into Africa, that's Begun, admits it's not really conclusive and he needs much more evidence. Not to mention that it doesn't actually contradict any established theories about ape diversity in Eurasia between 12 and 10 million years ago, before hominins appeared.

You bandying this about as the new accepted model is off base.
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>>608113028
You list, behold the superior waifu chart
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>>608139512
I think his Q should just hit harder, making his low level 1v1 actually stronger to compensate. It would also buff Sett in fighting non-tanks so that twitch just going out of stealth in his face needs to actually fear the auto into Q combo more than he does now.

Sett is supposed to be a Juggernaut not a straight tank, so he should actually make people be afraid of his damage beyond tanks.
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>>608109042
Shen's rework really ruined him for me
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>>608137936
Sion still has basic attacks, the shield, the stun and the undead thematic.

Urgot still has that crappy skillshot, an auto aim, a exchange position ability and tanqiness.
Are you one of those that cries because champion isn't 100% exactly the same while saying the kit is crap and that they are underwhelming?.

I can understand people complaining about galio and Swain, but fucking Sion and urgot man... They weren't even champions before.

They are good reworks, fuck off
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>>608139810
>pantheon
>excellent taste
are you gay?
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>>608106206
wasn't this game supposed to have simple kits, what happened
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>>608139810
I swear excluding the gross tier this one seem done with a randomizer
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>>608137936
Seriously, what did you liked about those old two champions? Are you being contrarian?
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>>608131932
and he was extremely based for it. I also love armored women and his desings definitively slap
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>>608139919
>they are good reworks
Hi riot Zed
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>>608139979
Must have flashy plays so flashy streamers can make flashy highlights and yell "HOLY FAWK DEWD I'M CRRRRACKED"
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>>608139873
>I think his Q should just hit harder
I don't think him one tapping non-tank just to deal with them is good design
That's the whole point of %damage, they hit tank good without bursting hard squishy

>Sett is supposed to be a Juggernaut not a straight tank, so he should actually make people be afraid of his damage beyond tanks.
That's why he also got a lot of damage and the pure damage isn't scaling on other health, while dealing damage to enemy backline scaling with their tank health.
It work, it's the proof you can get a good design even with those scary %damage value and true damage
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>>608140157
This issue LoL always has had is that mobility and damage are never balanced correctly.

Sett hits hard, or he should hit hard, because he has one of the most immosible kits in the game, in fact, his one mobility too is a targeted ult on a close range target. Sett hitting harder would actually benefit the game.

The issue is you have shit like Akali, who is an "Assassin" but her kit allows her to evade damage so well she basically can tank as long as Sett can.
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https://youtu.be/qVdjQ9y4ybk?t=258
>nobody posted the video from THE DYR with actual gameplay
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>>608139947
Anon...that's Kayle
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>>608139985
>Seraphine and Katarina in garbage tier
Seems pretty reasonable to me
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>>608140284
Akali rework was really "good", because they preserved the design space of an assassin that can actually outduel even fighter while being a better fighter while only losing a bit on the assassin part
....
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>>608140521
>seraphine
even a broken clock is right 2 time each days
>Katarina
Not saying it should be higher then decent taste, but for sure not lower then just ok.
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>>608140607
Akali rework was trash, she was absolutely busted after the rework and her kit is still cancer to this today.
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>>608106707
What happened to Trick?
Why did his stream just fucking die?
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>>608140064
Kill yourself, just look at this and dare to tell me that this is even mediocre.
https://youtu.be/1bQtJZW1x08
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>>608140693
Yeah, that's my point anon.
She kept the problem she had, up to 11
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All right I can understand not liking some of the reworks, but did anyone actually dislike Volibear's rework? I thought that was one of the better ones.
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>>608140963
yeah some schizo on /lollg/ posts non-stop about it.
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>>608140963
Retards here hate any change, even if it's better for the champion and design wise.

Old volly ult was totally underwhelming and everyone agreed on that, but hey, don't dare to touch that shit of an ult or we riot.
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>>608139131
Someone answer me?
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How would you rework this fucker? His kit outdated and he's been hit pretty hard with all the rune and item reworks unlike other bruisers.
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>>608140963
You'll find people hating on their favourite character getting a slight switch in damage, surely you'll find people hating on Voli too.
Personally, I was a bit sad about losing the overhead flipping, but it's a very good rework anyway
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>>608140391
>STATCHECK GOOD
>POINT AND CLICK CC BAD
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>>608141145
Imagine caring about skins lore.
Riot already changes the main lore whether they want to catter towards faggots trannies and marvel basedfans.

You are better of just reading fanfics at this point, is basically better.
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>>608141185
He's perfect the way he is
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>>608106206
>cold phoenix
what
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>>608141185
His q no longer gives movement speed.
His ult now is actually a tank killer and is balanced around that, and not a point and click skill that removes 2/3 of any champion, tank or not.
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>>608141258
He is dogshit in higher elo and has next to no skill expression, he pretty much just suffers through bad matchups with the hopes that you will be left alone to splitpush later on.
>>608141383
But the ult does 150/300/450 base, it's pretty much the worst execute skill in the game with the exception of Urgot. Should Pyke, Darius and Cho'gath also have their ults axed?
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>>608141145
There is no "true" answer, riot have no idea what to do with the real lore, can't expect to do well skin lore.
Dark star monster where used for the Starguardian event, so it was too assume some relation.
But then odissey second match happened and Kayn trasform into dark star, and Start guardian now got the real enemies with fiddlestick.
Basically, no, different universe exactly because they got the same champs.
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Seraqueen!
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>>608141473
Maybe, but to work in high elo he need to become a different champ
Just play a different champ there, really.
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>>608141620
>Maybe, but to work in high elo he need to become a different champ
That's why I'm asking for a rework
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>>608141353
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/champions/anivia/
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>>608141185
change his passive to enrage (stacking damage buff when damaged)
add point and click charge to his q (gets the speed buff after he charged)
turn his W into a mix of enraged regeneration and shield wall (consumes enrage)
make him unccable while he's spinning like bladestorm
add heroic leap to his ult and change the damage to aoe
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>>608142265
she doesn't rise from ashes, she comes from an egg
fucking retarded chink nigger
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>>608125372
Doesn't work because he shots his first barrel before placing the one that will one shot you.
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>>608109042
I miss old Vlad. That rework+nerfed spell vamp ruined the character.
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>>608142378
Sounds a lot better but it's almost a whole new champ at this point, he's desperately needs an overhaul though because he's just been powergapped by everything in recent years while he used to be a respectable stat stick in early seasons where a short movespeed boost and no mana/high regen was considered an oppressive kit
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>>608141185
>he doesn't know
https://youtu.be/X5W1X_vGpHQ
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>>608107149
There's a big differnece between Udyr being an established mountain man and slab of meat, and Thor who's suppossed to be the God of Thunder being a fatass who looks nothing like how he's commonly depicted. And not the Disney shit either, his actual carvings and descriptions
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>>608143171
I've seen the video and it's retarded how you have to build him like a glasscannon assassin because his bruiser playstyle is so fucking bad. At this point just play Qiyana or something.
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>>608141185
Fucker has an almost 54% WR in high elo, he is more than fine.
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>>608136271
>Current state of archeological findings.
It's 2022 you really think I would trust sjw media fuck off N worder, it wouldn't take this long for some findings of N worders.

and I can't say stupid N word becasuse you shit would just report to jannies, I hate you people.
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>>608132428
almost like real women, huh?
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>>608141617
When game becomes success we can afford to start hiring pieces of shit garbage.

If I ever have successful company I will never hire a single SJW.
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>>608109042
all of them
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>>608141185
Introduce dash items back into the game.
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>>608145403
If you introduce broken items into the game then the only thing that's going to result is in already broken champions abusing them, like non-tanks going tank builds, assassins building bruiser items etc. If a champion's kit is bad then the kit needs to be fixed, if you just introduce better items/runes then champions with good kits are just going to be powercrept even more.
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turtle bros...
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>>608140894
*cough cough* Taric Urgot bot *WHOOP COUGH* You started post season 7 *WHEEZE WHOOP*
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>multimillion company
>this in 2022
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>>608148214
>soon all remains of old league will be scraped out
Only a few champs left, and the icons if they haven't gotten to them yet.
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>>608113028
where dragon
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>>608148385
someone will make underground private servers with old patches
I'm sure
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>>608148596
they tried...they got chrono BUCK broken by riot BVLLS
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>install league back
>icons and avatars are all chinky
wtf? is there any way to revert this? fucking sovless
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>>608131932
The guy has his fetish but he's also brainwashed, either by his wife or someone else, so he feels shame and tries to reason his fetish into being the correct option while saying other censorship is fine.
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>Best lore in LoL is by far the Darkin
>ONLY 3 OF THEM IN-GAME
>REFUSE TO MAKE A NEW DARKIN
WHY
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>>608115039
based Jarvan enjoyers.
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>>608107149
Blame the retarded cauldrons that make Thor look fat.
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>tfw no perfectionist grumpy granny camille to teach me stuff while being stern and unimpressed.
why even fucking live, just go next ff15



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