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>people shit on diablo immortal because of muh mtx
>don't say shit about genshin, one of the most scummy gachas with awful rates
I fucking don't get it
so tell me /v/, why diablo immortal get roasted by all ecelebs while genshin gets a free pass making a shit ton of cash?
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Cute girls.
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>>603486746
Both are trash.
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My wife Amber
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>>603486746
the monetization in Diablo Immortal is far more predatory than Genshin Impact
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Because genshin impact isn't pay to win an doesn't look like shit
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The rates aren't that bad as far as gacha games go desu. Diablo immortal is far worse.
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>>603486931
>Cute girls
its the same answer i get everytime, but I am not sure that's the only thing
>>603487038
I am aware both are trash
but I just can't see how genshin is "forgiven" for being a piece of trash while diablo is demonized as hell. It even has a 60 in metacritics and 0.3/10
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I can fap to genshin
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>>603486746
Retards expected better from Blizzard. Anime fans are used to this bullshit.
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>>603486746
Genshin is already iffy. That Diablo Immortal is somehow a hundred times worse is saying a lot.
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>>603487236
1. It's done by Blizzard.
2. It has no cute girls.
3. Monetization in DI is insane even for a gacha game.
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>>603486746
A few reasons:

>Diablo tried to hide shit. (Put three crests in and all of a sudden you can toss in seven more)
>Diablo has PvP, so the P2W is that much worse
>Diablo is a beloved franchise that was genuinely tarnished by Diablo Immortal's bullshit


As for what Genshin does diffrently:

>We knew i was going to be a gacha from the beginning
>It's a gacha that you can genuinely play as a F2P and experience everything
>Waifus
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>>603486746
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If you play Genshin like a MMO with a monthly fee, it's not really that bad. Just do use the weapon banner no matter what.
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>>603486746
Genshin's marketing campaign is bigger than CoD's
Plus some do it for free
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>genshin impact
has klee
>diablo immortal
does not have klee
simple as
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>>603487562
I pulled on the weapon banner a bit. It's how I got my aquila favonia. Shit's perfect for a ton of characters. Currently have it on Jean.
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>>603486746
15k dollars for a 5 star gem. Has like 20+ systems you need to pay to get maximum out of this trash game. Fuck off retard.
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>>603486746
Diablo Immortal is made by Blizzard and we know the company is known for taking other games’ ideas and perfecting them for the relative masses.

In this case they took gacha to a whole new level of aggressive MTX
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>>603486746
>blizzard game
it's shit
simple as
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>>603487876
what can you buy with 15k in genshin?
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>>603486746
50 pulls (Roughly $100) will give me a five star character.
It then takes a week (Sometimes less) for me to max that character out if I don't spend any money on resin.

To max out your character in Diablo Immortal, it could legitimately cost you more than $100,000
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>>603488072
Just about everything you want assuming you somehow have access to every single character and weapon banner at the same time. Genshin really isn't that bad.
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>>603486746
Diablo Immortal is unironically the most scummy p2w in history. Genshin impact can be played for free.
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As a Genshin player, I consider Diablo Immortal players human garbage
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I've been shitting on them both and both deserve it. "Knowing its going to be gatcha" or "cute girls" or whatever the fuck else is not an excuse.
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yeah, both are chink garbage actually
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Anime girls are worth the money
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>>603486746
>genshin impact
always a gacha for mobile games.
>Diablo
literally been shitted on for being put on mobile since day one.
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>>603488072
Pretty much everything.
Assuming you're not going after a C6 five star character, you'd space out your pulls with that $15k throughout the year and get whatever characters you want.

If my math is right, there are (15?) banners each year, with a few of those being re-runs of old characters. If we assume you lose every single 50/50, you'd need to spend a max of $180 per banner to get the character advertised for that banner.
Assuming you were pulling on every banner, that's $2,700 per year.

From there, we can also say that you want every five star weapon to match those characters, so we max out the weapon banners as well. Same math, so you just double the cost to $5,400 per year.

That leaves you with $9,600 to do whatever you want with. You could legitimately max out almost every character in the game with that.
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>>603486746
Why the fuck would you watch someone play Diablo Immortal? The game is so piss easy that it literally plays for you. Whenever you click on the mission tab, the game goes to the trouble of searching the monsters for you on the map.
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Genshin relies entirely on (You) being retarded enough to give them money, there's zero actual need for it since the gameplay itself is so piss easy. Also most of the new characters released are very bad like my promiscuous wife Kuki Shinobu.
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>>603488754
same goes with genshin
whythe fuck would you watch someone playing genshin when there is only daily missions and a bunch of domain runs to burn your limited resin?
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this qt wife of mines
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>>603488481
>1. pay gorillions for a piece of gear that'll be outdated soon anyway
>2. pay nothing by playing smart and receive an anime girl that you can coom to and who will stay relevant
I mean, I'd rather not choose at all, but I'd go with 2 if I had to.
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>>603486746
That's because Diablo Immortal is new you fag and Genshit is old just like your waifu.
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>>603486746
Fuck you op for half a second I tought epic game was giving away diablo 2 remastered for free and I was happy
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>>603488981
You pay gorillions FOR the best gear, which is 5-starred gems. Doesn't make it any less retarded. To even maximize a single 5 star gem to max you're looking at spending hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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>>603488931
High level Abyss is the most popular stream content right now. Solo domains and boss runs are second.
The rest are pulling streams.
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>>603486746
Genchink is a good game
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>>603486746
>I fucking don't get it

you can beat every bit of content with the free characters they give you
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>>603489239
nice "game" genshits
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>>603488692
That's way too cheap for a gacha. I don't believe you.
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>>603489443
Skill issue
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>>603488898
>99% uptime off-field electro application while providing healing
>very bad
the only bad thing is that there aren't any weapons that support her stats
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>>603486746
Mihoyo is a company no one besides gacha fags ever heard about
Blizzard is one of the biggest western videogame companies which ruined its reputation shortly before Immortal came out
Genshin is a Gacha
The Gacha genre is literally centered around paying for units
besides that Genshin actually delivers a pretty high quality open world and fun combat system despite being gacha trash
while diablo immortal looks like actual mobile trash (cant speak for the gameplay as i have no intention of playing it)

in the end i would defend neither but it's pretty understandable why one gets a pass and the other doesn't
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>>603489443
>it's the games fault I'm a retard
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>>603489443
>Using a hydro character to fight a hydro & cryo abyss mage combo

All you have to do if pop a shield on yourself and use pyro.
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>>603489508
bro ur 3* dark iron sword?
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Western devs should know better
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>>603487236
Hello, newfag. Please search the archives (Yes, we have that!) to the time period genshin came out. Lurk more, you piece of shit.
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>it's ok for a game to have gambling in it if it has waifus
how did things get so bad, /v/?
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>>603489587
shut the fuck up chuuni bitch
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in genshin there is no pvp, every event is easy and I could complete the endgame content with f2p units after having played for only 4 months, in return they provide impeccable areas to explore with great visuals and music every 3 months
in diablo immortal you can spend 15k dollars for one piece of gear, get fucked by whales in pvp, and all the content is recycled from diablo 3
and that's before getting into how genshin is far from the "scummiest" gachas out there
in fact I'm surprised they make so much given how fucking lax it is
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>>603489765
>bow user
>runs straight into a crowd of enemies
???
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>>603486746
>one of the most scummy gachas with awful rates
You haven't played Genshin
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>>603486746
>I've touched myself and fapped to Genshin hundreds of times despite never playing it
>I have never seen a single diablo immortal porn in my life
>Only two good diablo porn images I've ever seen over 20 years
This is why I don't care about either game
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Serious question: is genshin worth getting into? If yes, on which platform is best to play on? Is the Chinese malware still a thing?
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>>603490239
Yes. PC. No.
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Genshin can be 100% without spending a dime, you can't experience half of Immortal since you need to be in a top guild full of paypigs.
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Should I pick Diablo II Resurrected? I never played the original
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>>603490239
Sure if you like tepid fomo gameplay optimized for women and children and don't mind having missed a shitton of one-time events, many story relevant and some of the worst writing this side of the Great Wall
>Chinese malware
You should be more afraid of your own government
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>>603490240
>Level 34
>Pyro
>On clearly frozen water
>Does fuck-all damage
>Charges in
>Slams fire onto the frozen water
>Surprised when it melts and sends him swimming.
>Gets wet
>Cryo slime freezes

Skill issue
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>>603490451
It's made by actual competent devs so the only downside is you'd be paying nuBlizzard
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>>603490239
yea, it's fun if you just explore and play the main quest. i haven't played in months but i will play again when they add another country or some kind of huge expansion. i don't log in daily and do chores, that's for cucks
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>>603486746
You never played either
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>>603486746
Genshin is a Chinese propaganda tool so criticising it lowers your social credit score.
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>>603486746
Why do you dumb fuck zoomers use twitch viewership as the metric for success? Is that the only lens you have to view these things?
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>>603490802
If you go by playercount or total revenue Genshit wins even harder, so that's a dumb thing to complain about.
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>>603488898
Sex with Kuki
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>>603490239
Eh it has a lot of SP content now so I guess
PC, obviously
You are likely using Windows that is directly sending info to CIA while posting on their honeypot
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>>603488981

I assume you can pay nothing for Diablo Immortal too, if you're okay with lower tiered stuff or free draws or whatever right? Not that that's okay either, but its not good in Genshin. Not to mention that outside of hardcore PVPers, a 5 star gem isn't that much more desirable than a 4 star one, but if you want an entire stable of cute anime girls and their weapons/gear etc.. you're more likely to end up paying.

I guess that's part of the threat of it. Neither are good, but the amount of people who will spend a fortune for a 5-star gem or whatever is going to be very, very small. Now I don't know how Immortal goes about other encouragement to spend money, but Genshin really takes the cake here. Oh, you want the particular character and they're only here for a little while, or they'll become much harder to get, or you won't be able to level them up, or you won't get their signature gear/abilities, or you won't get the other special cosmetic etc. I know people who consider themselves casual on Genshin and within months have spent hundreds because it was a deal/promo/banner or any of the other shady things gatchas do. Now, I don't know how likely it is you can get all the characters, cosmetics, or equip just by playing and doing free draws (I'm told its not very likely especially when you are trying to get 4 or 5 star stuff etc); you may get one randomly or rarely, but there's a lot of obfuscation to make it easy to spend money and seem necessary.
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>>603486746
Mostly because it's popular to shit on Blizzard. Genshin was a surprising level of quality for a mobile, people expected Diablo Immortal to be like other Diablo games and are too fucking dumb to understand how mobile gaming works.

Genshin is overwhelming for a mobile game, Diablo feels like a micro version and doesn't look good when compared to other entries.

Also you can say that the good parts of Genshin are easily available while in Diablo you are constantly blocked by asshole designs, forced multiplayer and other crap. Both have very good core gameplay.
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>>603487180
>The rates aren't that bad as far as gacha games go desu
genshin literally has the lowest rates you retarded cocksucker
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>>603490240
I miss multiplayer events
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>>603491226
>Now, I don't know how likely it is you can get
So shut the fuck up and stop typing essays about stuff you don't know anything about.
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Blizzard gamers are boomers that have a lot of money they're willing to dump on the company, but aren't interested in modern monetization.
Hots had people who'd happily spend $20 on a skin and when they said you can't buy skins anymore, buy some loot boxes instead nobody did.(Cardstone got away with it because mtg grandfathered that as normal way back in the 90s)
People rejected when diablo 3 wanted a cut of chinese goldsellers and got back on board when they said they're removing it, give us money for an expansion. And same with immortal, they're not looking for the gacha experience.
Blizzard won't play to it's base. Genshin's base is zoomlenials and that's normal to them.
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>>603486746
>I fucking don't get it
When will you learn? "It's okay when Asia does it." This is /v/'s golden rule. Censorship, plagiarism, wokeshit, exploitative whale-hunting mtx- all acceptable if it was made by a slanteye.
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>>603491140
Oh cool, we have actual Wumao shills posting on /v/. Neat.
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>>603490239
How do you feel about carrot on a stick approach for 40 hours but the carrot is just gacha currency? Somehow despite making a "open world" game genshit ended up being one of the most restrictive gacha around, putting hard limits on how much you can actually play the game and raise your characters. Sure you can run around fighting 3 copied nigger goblin camps but you wont get anything for it
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>>603486746
Genshin has a solid gameplay loop and gives you something pretty to look at. Diablo Immortal is the same shit as 3, but worse and you can't ever get what you want unless you pay extra.
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>>603486746
Genshin can be easily enjoyed without spending a single dollar.
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>>603492093
>putting hard limits on how much you can actually play the game and raise your characters
Wow is it 2020? Everyone already built all their characters and spent 2000 hours in the artifact mines. All thats left is waiting for the sparse shitty content so we can spend 50 minutes actually using the characters we spend months building.
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>>603489443
>walk into the fuckpit
>get fucked
nobody just walks into the fuckpit on accident, anon
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>>603491372
lmao no
The base rate is pretty low but the pity system more than makes up for it. Look at shit like FGO where you could spend literal thousands without getting what you wanted if you want actually scummy gacha.
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>>603486746
>one of the most scummy gachas with awful rates
No, DI is way, WAY scammier than GI and you know, your dumb baiter.
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>>603492538
Update your copypasta, FGO has a pity system now. Also you specifically said RATES dipshit, its still 0.6% for genshin
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>>603492424
If its someone new to the game asking that he'll have to go through all that from scratch, fun isnt it?
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>>603492734
>use Noelle
>don't shield up

every webm you post is someone playing like a complete retard
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>>603492876
The pity system that takes OVER 300 fucking rolls to hit pity? That doesn't even carry over between banners?
>b-bu t the rate-
Nobody fucking cares. You get the characters you want in Genshin by saving primos for a month, and you get to play a real game with them.
You don't get shit in FGO without opening your wallet, and the game is an autobattler without an auto function.
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>>603493000
>be new to the game
>get 5* off current banner
>they will be stuck at Lv40 until you catch up with the content
Imagine being a new player
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>>603492876
0.6%?
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Diablo Immortal is using a once beloved IP and is from a once beloved company which we never thought would go full monetization, not only did they but they ended up being worse than the most predatory gacha games that people don't mind because they openly market them as such. If your lovely wife of 25 years suddenly started doing meth behind your back and cheating on you, only to gaslight you when you say something's ng about it you would care about that a lot more than if some hot asian college girl coming up and asking you for coke.
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>>603493441
>Nobody fucking cares
You mentioned the rates first though? Did you hit your head or something?
>and the game is an autobattler without an auto function.
yeah thats how majority of people feel about domains at this point too
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>>603489508
Iron Sting? Freedom Sworn? Favonius Sword?
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That Amber photo was pohotoshoped, right?
I play Genshin inpact and her thighs arent that thick.
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>>603486746
Genshin doesn't cash in on pre-established company and IP trust unlike Diablo Immortal. Simple as.
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>>603490239
Yes, and PC
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I have never seen Genshin put the pay now button into my face.
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>>603486746
lurk moar
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>>603493000
far more areas with chests/puzzles/sakura trees for loot and currency now for people starting
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>>603486746
>Play Genshin f2p
>Enjoy all the content since it's not balanced around spending, there are no leaderboards, and what little PVP exists is in the form of Hide & Seek so spending literally does nothing
>Also many whales infamously quit the game because spending tens of thousands of dollars was "pointless" because no super hard content was locked behind doing so

>Play Diablo Immoral f2p
>Your gear, abilities, stats, cosmetics, ability to progress the story, leaderboard ranking, pvp ranking, challenge rift progress, pvp ranking progress, and everything else is locked behind spending
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>>603493496
you can get to inazuma with level 40 characters
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>>603493801
Funny enough they go out of their way to hide the shop from new players. The interface in general is very clean even after they open up the shop
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>>603491629
>This is /v/'s golden rule. Censorship, plagiarism, wokeshit, exploitative whale-hunting mtx- all acceptable if it was made by a slanteye.
you know genshin is in europe and america as well, right?
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>>603493907
>exists is in the form of Hide & Seek so spending literally does nothing
WAS in the form of Hide & Seek, because everything that is even remotely fun has to be removed to exploit fomo. Imagine defending a game where you cant even take a break without missing out on a lot of things
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>>603494067
Yeah that's bad
Modern gaming in general is bad, but Genshin is less bad than Diablo. A Chinese mobile game is better than a product released by Blizzard Entertainment.
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>>603486746
>People don't say
People did say about Genshit. But people bought it anyway. Also this site and board often moderates criticism of Genshit
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>>603489479
The catch is that Genshin is very stingy on free currency for wishes. The game is designed to push you to put a little money into it bit by bit over time rather than trying to fuck you in the ass and steal your entire wallet. Evidently it works considering how much money it makes every year.
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>>603492424
I started in late 2021 and I already have 2 competitive teams for abyss as a f2p only bought genesis for Keq skin tho
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>>603494067
On the bright side you get to bully latelets over all the stuff they missed
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>>603486746
no one plays genchink shillpact, only coom to the chars
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>>603494067
>to exploit fomo.

without rewards no one is going to play and it would just be taking up precious space they need because mobile faggots are already crying at the size
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>>603494163
>A Chinese mobile game is better than a product released by Blizzard Entertainment.
Talk about being biased, you are aware immortal was shat out by a chink company, right?
>>603494220
And then theres this faggot that unironically defends this
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>>603494462
Do you have autism? That post is highlighting just how far Blizz has fallen by comparing them to chinks
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>>603494608
>comparing chinese-made game to chinese-made game
Bias and denial? Or simply lack of reading comprehension? Can never be certain with those kekhoyo drones
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>>603494462
>unironically defends this

Not trying to actively defend the whole FOMO aspect but I think it's also to combat install sizes from ballooning like crazy.
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>>603494884
Autism confirmed
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>>603486746
>chongching vs. chingchong
when are you fucks gonna learn there's no difference
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>>603489727
>waifus
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>>603486746
Would you rather get shat on and milked for money like a fucking cow
Or
Would you rather get shat on and milked for money like a fucking cow, but with cute loli cunny?
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>>603490239
>get caught putting literal spyware in their game
>oh gweilo sorry sorry we remove spyware big misundestanding
>oh it's all okay now guys they removed it how nice of those chinks :)
you're a retard if you believe they removed the spyware and didnt just obfuscate it
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>>603494938
If you are saying "On the bright side" then at least on first glance it certainly looks like you are defending it, especially when you reasoning is as stupid as making fun of people who arent addicted to the game and keeping up with it 24/7 since 2020
>to combat install sizes from ballooning like crazy.
I have to wonder how much space does windtrace or tower defense actually take up, cant be so much that you cant turn them into semi-regular modes, say, rotating every two weeks along with Abyss. But we know the solution to this, ditch mobile version, but that will never happen since they care more about profits from children playing on their tablets than actually making a halfway decent game
>>603495061
Shill confirmed
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>>603495327
All this whining about Genshin and nobody really gets to the actual problems like cunny drought
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>>603493907
>Also many whales infamously quit the game because spending tens of thousands of dollars was "pointless" because no super hard content was locked behind doing so
Whales should quit life
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>>603493815
all that would be solved with a marketplace in the teapot
at least I would have an excuse to visit other people's teapot
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>>603495564
>ditch half their market

oh you're a retard
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Blizz is an easy punching bag for contrarians and weebs are insufferable addicts who will dump mney into anything weeby
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>>603495628
Genshin is a hebe game
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>>603495747
What, you dont want a better game thats not held back by phone memory/space limitations and control scheme? The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>603495564
Not the same anon.
Windtrace and tower defense have both popped up multiple times now, they would be dead modes if they were added regularly, or they would have to tie more rewards to them.

I was mainly talking about the voiced parts that included cutscenes, it being mobile as well has nothing to do with this.
The game already sits at 49GB and it'll only increase with time.

If you despise the game that's on you, I would let go of that grudge and play/discuss whatever things you do like.
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>>603495859
>the current level of production every 6 week s will continue with half the revenue gone
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>>603488135
It's also worth noting that if Genshin's pity system was like diablos, their guaranteed 5 star would have fine print saying they meant X/5 stars. Diablo is a special kind of scummy
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>>603495804
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Guess how much I've spent :)
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A welkinchad
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>>603496242
thats a biiiig babala
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>>603487453
>>Diablo has PvP, so the P2W is that much worse
Maybe im too autist for this os just too old for this shit, but P2W was allways tied to PvP, since there is no "winning" in a mmo besides clearing things sooner than people who dont pay
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>>603491568

I know how fucking gatchas work and their monetization strategy, the only thing in question was how much it deviates from the (shitty) norm. Oh yeah, I'm sure it made an absolute fuckload of money as a gatcha by being massively accessible and everyone just gave it to them without having to grind or pay to get what they want at all. I'm sure all those "casual" players who spent hundreds of dollars within a couple of months simply didn't know all they had to do was play an extra 15 minutes a day and they could unlock every 5 star item and character in a way that respects their time, without spending a cent. The entire genre is designed for bullshit and the fact that one decided to duplicate BOTW instead of just putting anime tiddies on cards makes the sycophants come out of the woodwork.
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>>603496047
>they would be dead modes if they were added regularly, or they would have to tie more rewards to them.
Hence why I said to rotate them every two weeks, you dont even have to put primogems there, just talent or weapon materials, which would also help alleviate the resin issue
>I would let go of that grudge and play/discuss whatever things you do like.
Letting go of a grudge doesnt mean I should let go of my opnion on the game though
>>603496085
do you actually have something to say about the game or its quality or are you just here to shill? You are only concerned with profits, not the quality(or to be clear, lack of quality) of the game
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>>603490240
Diluc_gaming
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>>603496047
the problem is not mobile in a whole but fucking iphones with low space in their storage.
Even in mid-range android phones, you can expand the storage up to 512GB to 1TB while iphones are too limited and the more space you want, the more you have to pay and there is no other option to get more storage space.
Chinkhoyo knows this and that's why they can't use external storage like SD cards.
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>>603487453
>>Diablo tried to hide shit. (Put three crests in and all of a sudden you can toss in seven more)
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>>603486746
Don't forget people glossed over lost ark
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>>603496242
My cute hebe wife
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>>603486746
Genshit is a PlayStation exclusive so whatever it does is ok and the best and everyone should copy it...but only as exclusive on PlaStation
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People expect it from gatchas because it is wildly known that weebs have some of the lowest standards and poorest money skills around.
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>>603496594
Nobody wants to clunk up their Playstation with a 150gb+ as well.
PC isn't big enough as an audience.
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>>603496692
It will be on Switch too.
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>>603496692
It was announced for Switch. Is it really not out yet? lmao
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>>603486746
Genshit doesn't actively butcher loved games by existing, for all its bullshit, it is a game that has come from nothing and has some really impressive visuals for a mobile game, putting 99% of Switch games to shame
However, I do agree that gachaniggers are subhumans and should be lynched
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>>603496667
when you are using legendary crests, you can only see 3 slots in the screen, but once you put 3 crests, a big button appears with the "ADD 7 MORE CRESTS" option.
There is no fucking way to tell there is an option to add more crests from the start.
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>>603496309
That could be easyly done while spending nothing, I have nearly the same shit as you (3* Mona, zongli and tartaglia, and no Keq/ganyu/venti/qiqi
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>>603486746
anime girls can make people's brains stop functioning
Japan has built an entire industry off of it
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>>603486746
genshin isnt a bastardized version of a classic IP
people were up in arms when dungeon keeper got mobilized too
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>>603486746
Gacha games suck ass, but at least Genshin looks pretty and everybody can jerk off to the characters without actually playing it.
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>>603486746
You can do every piece of content in Genshin with the most dogshit team you can assemble. The only thing you’ll be missing out on is not staring at your Waifu’s ass while gliding. Also assuming you don’t roll on every banner you can easily save up enough wishes to pull whoever you want through just dailies + events/quest rewards not even including the Welkin pass. Meanwhile Diablo has players getting absolutely raped by people spending thousands on gear and gems.
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>>603496879
And what are those crest for?
Do you have to pay for them or something?
What benefit could get blizzard by "hiding" those 7 extra crest?
I didn´t bother to play the game yet (more interesting things on my backlog) and due to massive shitposting didnt pay atention to it
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>>603486746
i have been shitting on genshit since it came out
literally the worst gacha ever
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>>603487098
Amber on front page
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>>603497660
y
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>>603486746
Genshin
>big open world with constant events and updates (most are shit but eh)
>amazing music
>amazing visuals
>gives an ok amount of free rolls (if you ignore weapon banners)
>rates clearly displayed with a pity system that can carry over between banners and if you lose the 50/50 you then get the featured guaranteed
>characters are a mix of cool and coom which appeals to everyone

diablo immortal
>diablo game but everything takes longer to do
>20+ currencies (genshin has 3)
>can only build 1 character per slot and they all need to have things bought separately (purchases are character based not account based so already worse than genshin where an account can have craploads of units)
>shitty 5 minute chore required for every 10-pull you do
>said shitty 5min chore opens a loophole so blizz can pretend they aren't a gacha game so lol hidden rates which are already lower than any gacha in existence
>don't even roll for anything cool. Just orange rocks that give a stat buff

Just a case of a western company going too far again. You can do gachas well. Look at arknights/guardian tales/priconne. You can also do gachas bad. Genshin, dblegends, fgo for example.
But absolutely none of them even come close to how ridiculously stingy and scummy immortal is.
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>>603497937
>Zongli with less than 40k HP
Fags....
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>>603497660
>literally the worst gacha ever
So you have played every gacha but still hate the most popular one. Literally a retarded contrarian, average 4channer I guess.
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>>603486746
people are so caught up in nostalgia that they mistakenly still hold Blizzard to a higher standard
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>>603498180
i played gacha in the past, dont play anymore dont care
genshin is the most jewest gacha ever
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One game has Mona in it and the other one doesn't
simple as
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Based China turning weebs into gambling addicts. You love to see justice in this world.
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>>603493549
Not him but, I have 11 5stars characters up to now, and I haven't payed a single cent. Also I dont play nearly enought. Maybe I have good luck.
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what is funny is blizzard made diablo immortal aimed to the chink market only to be banned two days before it was released in china.

Karmic Justice
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I really love Diablo Immortal alot. I'm still unclear on why it's so hated. People go on and on about gem %s or some shit. Of course it'll take you tons if cash to get the best gear if you just money dump the store and don't play the game, but who the fuck does that? It's not "expected" that you have 5 star gems to enjoy the game, the same as it's not "expected" that you have C6 Genshin characters.

Like, I get it, it's a phone game, it's pay to win, most are, but why does this one in particular make people seethe to this level?

People make it sound like I raped a baby or something just by doing a couple vault runs with my guild? I'm not the worst person ever because I play this chink p2w MMO over another.
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>>603499468
>The Chinese government is ba-
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>Diablo fans consist of mostly veterans who enjoy playing games with good or at least fun gameplay loops and have a high standard of which content they consume
>Genshin impact fans are braindead neckbeard coomers who would gladly pay thousands of dollars to get the right loli waifu skin which is also one of the only aspects the game capitalizes on

Wow I wonder what the difference is.
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>>603499771
Do you even know whaty Diablo Immortal is?
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>>603499771
I've played Diablo since the 90s. I think D3 is shit and D1 is the best of the three games. Also I enjoy Genshin Impact as a free player.
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>>603486746
I'm not pedophile and I'm not addicted to gambling therefore I've nothing to say about genshit and Pablo immoral
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>>603486746
I played Genshin for free when it came out and didn't feel the need to buy anything at any point.
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>>603486746
>one of the most scummy gachas with awful rates
if anything it's least sucmmy because it has a safe net, diablo on the other hand...
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>>603499771
>diablo
>good or at least fun gameplay loops and have a high standard of which content
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>>603487236
>Blizzard
>small indie devs
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>my gacha is better than yours
This thread is fucking pathetic and I hope you understand how pathetic you are
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genshin may be a gachashit, but goddamn it doesn't throw special offers on my face everytime i complete a dungeon.
I haven't played genshin for a year, but as far as i remember, I didn't even find out about the store till 2 weeks later.
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>>603492876
How many pulls per month do you get? Diablo gives you, what, two?
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>>603497537
Crests are effectively gacha pulls for gems. You will not realistically see a 5 star gem, or really any gem, without using one.
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>>603486746
Genshin's gacha system is actually pretty lenient compared to other gacha games. Whereas Diablo Immortal is not only extremely predatory they hide a lot of mechanics to make it so that you cant play for free either.

Not to mention the devs behind Genshin is using the gacha money for a good cause like feeding the poor, building schools, researching fusion reactors and new technologies as well as developing new games instead of lining a jew's pockets like with Diablo immortal.
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>>603503162
>Not to mention the devs behind Genshin is using the gacha money for a good cause like feeding the poor, building schools, researching fusion reactors and new technologies as well as developing new games instead of lining a jew's pockets like with Diablo immortal.
so now giving money to commies, enemies of capitalism is a good thing, you mao cocksucker
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>>603503813
>company takes money from nerds to make the world a better place
versus
>company takes money from nerds to make jews richer

I'd side with the ones who are altruistic all the way.
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Immortal's pvp is actually kinda fun but the p2w shit ruins it
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Why do chinks not like earning things in games by playing said games?
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>>603493943
Meanwhile, in immortal there are more than 1 daily progression system who's UI is literally in the shop and sat right next to a full line of "Look at all the stuff you're currently not getting lmao"
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>>603491558
classic alpedo move
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>>603487180
dont cocksuck mhy. We had better rates on honkai impact. They marketed genshit to normalfags and they made the rates lower.
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>>603495628
True, Cute Force needs more members
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1.75 years later and you're still seething.
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>>603498024
Fujos (male) dont spend money on gacha to pull for homo staff
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>>603486746
Downloading Diablo Immortal for PC right now gonna see what all this p2w nonsense is about.
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>>603486746
>Diablo immortal
I want the death of Blizzard and their workers to die of hunger, thats all I ask about those 2
>Genshin
Some random chink game with cunny and waifus that weebs love
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>>603491372
You literally know nothing of gacha
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>>603487638
soul
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>so tell me /v/, why diablo immortal get roasted by all ecelebs while genshin gets a free pass making a shit ton of cash?
Hmmm... I don't know
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>>603503813
>doing the world a favor is commie bs
gfg, people like you believe economics originated in the 17th century or that free market is equal to capitalism, fuck off
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>>603505526
i didnt see this pride shit i think im going to cancel install now
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>>603486746
diablo started life as the best action rpgs of the era, the first 2 games are played regularly to this day. diablo immortal is the biggest stain on an IP already tarnished by diablo 3

genshin was built from the ground up as scummy chink shit so nobody cares
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>>603487638
>>603505408
I wanna impregnate her so fucking bad its unreal
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>>603486746
Genshin is really bad if you are a minmaxfag and want BiS + constellations.
However it's a PvE game so if you only care about the characters that tingle your dick then it's not too bad with the soft pity system.

Now look at Immortal which was already panned upon announcement and is jewish as all hell after you clear the free content. Nothing going for it.
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>>603486746
You don't have to pull in Genshin to tackle the end-game. They also semi-frequently give away decent f2p weapons.
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>>603505668
Everyone has seen this shit by now. Also wasn't Immortal developed by a chink studio?
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>>603506079
It was developed by NetEase, and their games, developed or published are generally good.

About to fire this boy up.
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>>603486746
Most of the people complaining about Diablo are Blizzard fags who just found out mobile games are monetized to hell and back and now totally think this is going to influence future games because its still 2004 and Blizzard is still relevant. It's also more aggressive with its monetization and Meanwhile, Genshin is easy and all the story content can be done as a F2P player. There is only one mode where Whaling has some benefit. Guarenteed banner characters that carry over also helps.
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>>603503813
a prime example of american education everyone
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Henry
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>>603486746
simple:
SOUL - SOULLESS
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>>603486746
Genshin is good. Diablo is not.



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