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Sells millions all the while using a PS2 graphics engine all these years. How do they do it bros?
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>>570933461
the music
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>>570933461
Charging AAA prices for games that look like PSP games.
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>>570935574
The music is just generic J-Rock. Ys 1 and 2 were the only Falcom games with good music.

>>570935958
This.
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can we get a new popful mail
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>>570933461
>Sells millions
More like thousands
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>>570935574
The music is garbage
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>>570933461
>Sells millions all the while using a PS2 graphics engine all these years. How do they do it bros?
Graphics fidelity fags like you can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that a game doesn't need to be state of the art to look decent. Also, some people value immersion, gameplay, and music over having the highest fidelity experience.
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>>570933461

They make games with a lot of content instead of playing the graphics race. Unsurprisingly there is an audience of people who want new games with content.
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Sounds pretty soulful
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>>570938178
So you're saying the Trails games are the only good games from them? Because Ys games take at least 6 hours tops to finish.
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Can Falcom music really be considered "generic" if they invented archetypical JRPG music? It would be like calling the Beatles generic because of everything that came after.

>>570938702
Content =/= length
Ys games are filled to the brim with content despite averaging at between 5-15 hours. You're thinking of padding.
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>>570938702
You finished Ys VIII in 6 hours? I'm like 35hours in just defeated oceanos
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>>570938859
>Can Falcom music really be considered "generic" if they invented archetypical JRPG music?
How much influence did they have over the genre vs Uematsu? Or whoever the DQ composer was?
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>>570933461
It's more like PS3 engine, and so what? graphics are not the most important aspect of a video game
(and by the way, I only played 2 of their games)
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>>570938938
>over Uematsu and DQ's composer
A shit ton, actually. Falcom didn't start to fall off in popularity until the 1990s because PC gaming was dying in Japan and consoles were booming.
Even before the PC-Engine version of Ys (with CD soundtracks), the 8-bit Ys soundtracks were still considered ahead of their time.

In fact, Falcom's emphasis on music (often more than half of the budget of their games in the 1980s and 1990s went towards OST, and then arranges and bonus music, etc) is what pushed other JRPGs to start spending more on music.
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>>570939101
>(and by the way, I only played 2 of their games)
The Trails in the Sky Trilogy is a little overrated but still good. Recommended.

Trailsfags rave about Crossbell. Ignore them. It's bad.

The first 2 Cold Steel games are great. If you really want more than I suppose you can play 3 and 4 but just know that there is a huge drop in the writing quality.
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>>570937914
>Also, some people value immersion, gameplay, and music over having the highest fidelity experience.
And Trails is mediocre in every category.
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>>570938938
Early Ys music and Legend of Heroes music is worshiped in Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EceIW-yUiiY
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>>570933461
I recently finished YS 8 on the Switch, and it felt like a AAA PS2 title
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>>570939168
>recommending trails
absolute garbage fire of a series with a mega gary stu only Ys is good from falcom
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>>570939128
Sad that the music of Falcom has become such generic crap since they went 3D. If you'd tell me that a recurrent neural network composed music for the new Falcom games, I would 100% believe you.
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>>570939261
And Ys IX is very reminiscent of The Last Story on the Wii in its setting.
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Falcom was pretty good until Ys 7. Their 3D went full trash after that game.
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>>570939168
Maybe someday I'll get those, first I'll get Ys IX
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How come Falcom as a company attracts the absolute most contrarian, nostalgia obsessed, jaded, bitter, afraid of change losers in the entire video game industry?
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>>570939602
Seriously compare Oath of Falghana to their later Ys games.

They seriously catch the PSP weebshit experience.
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>>570939602
Because they have genuinely never made a good game outside of a few Ys titles.
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>>570939602
>How come Falcom as a company attracts the absolute most contrarian, nostalgia obsessed, jaded, bitter, afraid of change losers in the entire video game industry?
Ys had no fandom in the West. It was those Trails cultists who were left on the several year long cliffhanger waiting for the release of SC that built up their Geotranny discord who screwed everything.
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>>570939602
I'm not contrarian, nostalgia obsessed,jaded,bitter, or afraid of change and I like Ys.
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>>570939602
bad games
they were the original compile heart but because of "muh legacy" they get a pass
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Why does Kuro no Kiseki still look like crap on the PS4?
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>>570933461
because that's just how good xanadu NEXT was that they decided to keep using its engine
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>>570939687
This, nobody plays or have played Trails until lately and Falcom is known for making Ys which are just simple arcade games with no depth
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>>570939602
party ys is shit
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>>570938238
you still never answered me on why you didnt support the psp or the vita
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>>570936853
>The music is just generic J-Rock. Ys 1 and 2 were the only Falcom games with good music.

kill yourself contrarian faggot
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>>570939939
I was playing other games on PSP

I never bought a Vita games I hardly even play it. I like it but never use it
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>>570933461
doing good soul games and creating good characters.
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>>570933461
How badly will Kuro on Kiseki bomb?
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>>570940096
>How badly will Kuro on Kiseki bomb?
It won't bomb. It will do okay.
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Call me when Falcom can make an ARPG with actual gameplay that doesn't run out of ideas in the first 10 hours.
For now I'll stick with the best RPG series ever created.
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>>570940096
Trails games cater to a small niche (in japan) that will stick with the games no matter what. It'll sell the small, hefty amount as expected of it.
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>>570939968
The reason why Falcom nearly fell apart and because there's so much good and memorable JRPGs in the 1990s was because of an exodus of Falcom staff who joined Square and a bunch of other big JRPG developers.
You can even still feel the influence of that exodus today in studios like Monolith Soft, who's president started at Falcom.
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>>570940349
Monolith Soft runs into the ground with Nintendo.

Really bad Bamco failed to keep them.
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>>570940430
Takahashi from Monolith Soft says he has more freedom to do whatever he wants now than he did with Square or Bamco, actually. The reason why Xenogears and Xenosaga were so good was because of his wife, who isn't involved with any of the Xenoblades, and with Square and Bamco breathing down his neck and not letting him do whatever he wants. He unfortunately claims that Xenoblade 2 was everything he's ever wanted to write, but couldn't, over the last 2 decades.

Takahashi himself is to blame, not Nintendo.
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>>570933461
Games with good gameplay and characters. Their games aren't anything miraculous, they just have relatively consistent quality even if the newer stuff isn't as great. I have never played a 10/10 falcom game, but I've never played a "bad" one, either.
>>570935574
and most importantly, this. Some of the best in the industry
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>>570940589
Seriously mech games on weak hardware is the worst fate.

The other failure is that From gave up on their mech games, really wish Another Century's Episode comes back.
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>>570940589
>He unfortunately claims that Xenoblade 2 was everything he's ever wanted to write, but couldn't, over the last 2 decades.
Damn.
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>>570940430
>Nintendo consider Monolith one of their most important studios
>has a 138% profit
>devs have artistic freedom to write the stuff they want.
>run into the ground
retard
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>>570940303
I'm fucking ready for kamen kiseki
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>>570933461
Just make 20 mediocre anime games and it will be millions sales.
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>>570940886
https://youtu.be/33Jk01H10Jw?t=83

Kino
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>>570939721
pls show black hand.

also, hated hummel's flat top and flared bottom redditor design.

sahad spilling dandruff everywhere and farting at inopportune moments is great.

dana is deeply sympathetic.

good game in retrospect.
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>>570939968
"ys" 3 happened, which originally wasn't going to be an ys game, but kato being a genius forced it to be at the last minute and in the process pissed off the guy who made the game which caused him to leave to form quintet and a bunch of people followed him out, that's why they had to outsource the development of both versions of ys4
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>>570940589
>Xenoblade 2 was everything he's ever wanted to write, but couldn't, over the last 2 decades
>A massive JRPG where you collect waifus

Absolutely based
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>>570940704
I was really let down reading some recent interviews and he genuinely sounds prouder now in any of his old interviews for Xenogears or Saga. Shame.

Xeno will never be good again unless his wife is directly involved with the story like in Gears and Saga, she actually writes the characters and most of the story while Takahashi's just the grandiose idea guy with a boner for hamfisting nonsensical philosophy

Trails of Cold Steel is unironically closer to being a Xeno game than any of the Xenoblades.
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>>570941038
Xenoblades have amazing world design and good central story, but everything else is just bland or mediocre. They really need someone new to direct/write side content
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>>570941038
she did such a good job with episode I.

I actually rewatch all of the cutscenes from time to time.
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>>570941117
If by world design you mean aesthetics, yeah, because from the gameplay standpoint locations in Xenoblade games suck a wall of dicks.
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Is this another thread where we complain about modern Ys games while furiously masturbating to Oath and Oath alone?
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>>570941372
Because Oath plays well.

If the series want to go 3D, it needs to full 3D.
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>>570941372
I liked Ys 8. What is wrong with that besides how long it is?
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>>570941301
Yeah, i meant aesthetics. Traversing them can really be a pain, especially in xenoblade 2. Fuck whoever made the map for gormott
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>>570941428
So 8 and 9?
>>570941462
You should probably re-read my post.
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>>570940589
>wife stops getting involved with Xeno series
>the games are no longer fucking AIDS to play
>in fact they actually become quite fun
fuck no, dont ever let her near the series again. we don't need anymore Babel Towers
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>>570940670
Xenoblade X is peak kino, though
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>>570938238

Why are you black?
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>>570933461
>Sells millions
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>>570933461
Because they are one of the extremely few studios that still makes consistent kino
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>>570942291
Its pretty sad that the whole cs saga sold only about 6 million copies total. Though given their barebone budget that goes into these games, theyre probably really happy with the sales
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>>570939949
>contrarian faggot
I think I am actually not quite contrarian with that opinion. I've seen similar sentiments thrown around a few times.
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I will never understand why Kiseki became so popular. Absolutely unoriginal bland games. Every dialogue was boring. At least gameplay not bad but this is not why people praise this series.
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>>570940430
Aren't Monolith doing better than they did under Bamco? Harada can't even get a Xenosaga remaster greenlit.
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>>570942613
ah yes, xanadu next really has that generic j-pop aesthetic
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>>570940975
Why is it that Falcom's character designs are so fucking generic anime trope archetypes? Even Bamco can manage to get out better character designs than Falcom.

Is it a budget thing? Or is it because Falcom wants every retard to understand who the characters are and what they're going to behave like just by looking at them?
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>>570942919
No, Xanadu Next was based and consequently was turned into not-persona with Tokyo Xanadu.
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>>570942997
im still mad about tokyo xanadu

yeah yeah I know trails is super successful and all but that doesn't mean you have to make all of your games more and more like it falcom, for fucks sake
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>>570943083
The crappy thing is, if the rumors are true, that Falcom want to continue with the whole not-persona focus with the next Xanadu games. So we won't see another based Xanadu game or even a Brandish game...
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>>570943285
Brandish VT was fucking kino, man.
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>>570939773
The only thing Compile Heart inherited from Compile was the Madou Monogatari name and theme (before Compile Heart came along, Compile's homepage had to do Madou Monogatari with brand new characters in a webcomic); all of the characters and Puyo Puyo went to Sega. Falcom's president has managed to persistently clung onto his IP to this day while Compile's president is still trying to restart things properly with Compilezero.
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Well, at least Falcom have now discovered motion capturing. So their animations won't be total shit going forward.
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I like Falcom, mostly for Ys. I can’t really put my finger on it, but I think Falcom makes games that are ambitious on a limited scope, but are grounded on a bedrock of old technology and convention. They never really stray far from the formula. I can respect that. Keep making games that scratch the itch, Mr. Kondo.
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I loved Ys VIII and I'm really enjoying IX right now even though Oath and Origin are better. A bit of jank in the movement but zipping around, running up walls and gliding is really fun and kinda novel.
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>>570939602
Just look at one rean thread and you'll see.
They're so miserable they spam threads of any other jrpg
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>>570940096
It will definitely flop



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