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Tales of Edna
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First for this game's combat sucks and lmao autoplay
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here's the future of tales bro
>half of the combat is aerial combo
>bosses have permanent iron-stance
>bosses can't be juggled
>even when they're "staggered", they stay on the ground
>you won't even have a chance to use aerial artes unless it's giant bosses
>gameplay is reduced to roll+reigning slash
did you like it?

>inb4 muh diminishing returns
sweaty play the game
https://files.catbox.moe/9hikxm.mp4

>inb4 y-you're playing the gaem wrong!!1
sweaty here's your combogod rolling around like a retard spamming eagle dive and his dlc arte
https://youtu.be/4VwpGzi-VS0

>inb4 r-reigning slash suck
ok but sweaty here's a no hit run where he still rolls around like a retard and spams a different sequence
https://youtu.be/xG6vmKJ-z-o
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neat
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>go to the training grounds
>I'm sorry goy you are 10 levels toe early for even the novice challenge, do you want some dlc maybe?
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>>570931270
I apologize to berseria and zestiria, arise is irredeemable trash.
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>>570932429
nobody fucking likes zestiria.
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Is swinging pickaxe pointlessly only way to generate the energy? it doesn't even feel like they gather any resources.
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Edna makes my pants Arise.
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>>570932429
How does it feel to be a contrarian?
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TALES OF DESTINY CHAD

WE WON
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This is my first Tales of game
Wish me luck /v/!
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remember when tales actually played like tales instead of dark souls?
https://youtu.be/p7SpOoYfYoo
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>>570933375
sorry to hear that
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>>570932938
>it doesn't even feel like they gather any resources
They don't, a late game sidequest points out that Calaglia has zero goods to export.
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look at her go!
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what am i in for?
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>>570933492
assuming you're playing on hard a mechanically easy fight that punishes you heavily if you fuck up and then also a great deal of panic during one of his phase 2 moves
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>>570933407
Remember when tales had more than 4 enemies?
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>>570933641
arise just came out tho?
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The balance of this game feels so fucking weird depending on how much DLC you have.
I pirated all of it but turned off the artifacts and have been having a decent time on the Moderate difficulty level. But they still give you a shit load of free SP which feels weird.
Are most of the people that are having issues with bosses playing the game without any DLC whatsoever? Did they purposefully balance the game around people getting DLC?
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>>570933717
I play on hard but the game seems balanced for it without any dlc, unless you consider having to be thrifty with gald and not being able to buy everything immediately with SP to be a bad thing.
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>>570933641
no?
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If you're letting the AI die you're doing it wrong.
webm is fast forwarded because of the shitty 3MB limit
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>Law is only 2 years older than Rinwell
Just beat Fourth Lord and they seem to be pushing these 2 pretty hard
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>>570933835
that's not fun so i'm not going to do that
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>>570933717
I haven't used any of the DLC and have had no issues so far on hard mode, I've only died like 4 times in my playthrough, and I just beat the 5th lord.
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>>570933882
The game has default pairings
Alphen and shionne
Law and rinwell
Kisara and nigger
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>>570933835
>play an action game to spend most of his time on the menus and not doing any action
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>>570933991
>action game

It's a JRPG with action combat.
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>yfw this scene
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>>570933717
Maybe they balanced harder difficulties around NG+? I assume that feature's still in.
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>>570934023
so an action game? you don't actually think that jrpgs can't be action games right?
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>>570934084
No, it's perfectly balanced for ng. Hard is the hardest difficulty so if you carry over levels (max 100) you'll just steamroll everything on ng+. It's dumb but I guess you get to keep costumes and stuff and you don't have to carry over levels.
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>>570934236
I know I'll get some heat for this, but I'll say it anyway: New difficulty modes as DLC.
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>>570933835
You can kill them without all this bullshit, with just 3 orange gels. The helganquil are one of the easier bosses. The double lion boss outside volhran's castle was harder than them.
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has anyone had music suddenly cut out during cutscenes where it really feels like it should still be going?
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>>570934436
>you can kill them by spamming items

Come the fuck on. You can kill everything in every Tales of game by cheesing with items.
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>>570934236
Chaos is the hardest difficulty, and even that's been easy so far in my NG+ playthrough.
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>>570934025
Any other tales games that do this? I love when strong male ryona ing a girl.
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>>570934457
No but I've had some instances where music was entirely too loud compared to dialogue and then in the same cutscenes have dialogue like "tch" and "sighs" be entirely too loud.
Not sure how every game releases nowadays happens to be so poorly fucking mixed.
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this was pretty kino, along with the opening. very nice
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>>570934025
Amazing how best bird solo'd that dude without even breaking a sweat.
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>>570934548
why the fuck would i not use items that there are in the game. You can kill them without dying too, but i unlocked alphen's skill to do more damage at the cost of more HP so i kinda need to keep healing him.
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>>570931270
Do oldfags stop coping yet?
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>>570934730
You do you
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How do I set Law as the character I control at the start of battle?
I tried changing party leader but it just replaces who I control in the field.
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>>570932419
i beat the novice arena under levelled, you're not a shitter are you anon?
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Does Shionne ever become not insufferable? Why do people still like the fucking Tsundere archetype. My GOD she is annoying and in general just a huge bitch. I just finished the second area and the only time they try to force her into being cute is "hurr durr her tummy grumbles because she likes food!". Otherwise I just want her to shut the fuck up
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>>570933641
not really no, i remember the 7 bird recolors in every game, arise just following tradition except this time the enemies look less shitty
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>>570934025
It was pretty crazy when it happened, but I felt like they retroactively fucked it up.
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>>570935020
yeah but her ass looks amazing in the swimsuit outfit so it's all good
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>>570934928
R1 or was it L1 to edit party
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>>570934928
Press R1 in the pause menu to go into the Party Edit menu. That's where you change the Battle Leader.
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God I want to cum inside Hootle
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what the fuck WHY IS THIS GAME SO DAMN HARD?
I'm at the beginning of and I can't even pass through South Tower because I had to go back to camp to heal up.
Enemies deal fuck ton of damage, very quick and have crazy iron stance, I can't interrupt enemy attack, but even a flick of enemy attack WILL interrupt any of my attack. I can't combo because all 3-5 enemies WILL target me and WILL interrupt my attack. All I can do is just roll roll roll demon fang while watching my party DPS the enemies until they're staggered then I come in to use quick heavy damage artes like reigning slash or fire blade.
I'm playing on Normal difficulty for fucks sake, why is it so fucking hard!??? the other Tales games weren't nearly as hard.
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Shionne and Rinwell are both insufferable, I can't believe I like the dudes more than the girls in this game
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>>570933407
so arise ? long combos are easier than ever now
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>>570935192
Other than Tear, Tales dudes are always better than the females of their games.
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>>570935186
uninstall
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>>570935243
holy coperoni
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In the 4th area and I STILL don't know how the boss fight is supposed to work

Every fight is just me repeatedly spamming recovery items while the boss deal 1000+ damage every hits and killed all of my teams in two hits.
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>>570933607
shionne ended up one of the most fun characters for me she's great
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>>570935140
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>>570935020
She lightens up right after that in the third region.
Then near the beginning of the fourth region, she's fully on board with the nakama.
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>>570935290
>fight 4th lord
>run out of consumables halfway through the fight keeping team alive
>equip the 3 AI with 50% reduced wind damage accessories
>use 2 life bottles during the entire battle
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So I've read the field guide entry but I still don't understand.

What is the difference between Manual and Semi-Auto? To me it just feels like Manual doesn't auto face enemies during attacks. So I just got Law and on Manual he ends up combining air if the enemy moves but when in Semi-Auto, it's easier to stay locked on. Is that the main difference or am I missing something? Semi-Auto seems like the best way to play
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>>570935282
these are called facts anon i know its hard to handle those, we had a 300 hit combo in the demo which had limited artes, cope
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>>570935290
and that's normal difficulty
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>>570935140
>>570935341
>japanese dub calls him Hululu
>english subs calls him Hootle

Why are they like this?
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>>570935020
she's autistic, goal oriented and honest, these are all based traits and you got filtered
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>>570935416
semi auto is strictly worse if you have a good understanding of range/distance/orientation

Semi-Auto will automatically try to run you close to an enemy if you use an attack/arte while out of range (and/or turn to face them as well). Manual just gives you full control.
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>>570935418
now post 300 hit combo on a boss, seethe
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>>570935498
Because the english dub calls him Hootle?
??? hello?
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>>570935186
if you cant break before they attack, dodge the fuck outta there.
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>>570935549
post a 300 hit combo on a boss in any worthwile action game, now seethe.
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>>570935549
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>>570935416
semi auto will automatically move your character to the target even if you just press attack or arte
i don't know if it works the same way in this game because I didn't even bother but if it does then it will ignore every other enemy and chase your target regardless of distance
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>>570935680
holy btfo
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>>570935680
HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
holy fuck that poser must be so embarrassed now. Based actually-playing-the-game-anon
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>>570935416
>Manual
Control is entirely in your hands, you gotta move yourself where you need/want to be for your attacks to connect.
Attacks will only partially course correct if you're holding the stick in the direction of an enemy.
But it will more effectively automatically aim in the direction of the enemy if you leave the stick neutral. This is important for characters with ranged attacks.
>Semi-Auto
Your character will run towards the enemy automatically until they're close enough for the attack to reach.
For a bunch of moves, this is actually sub-optimal since the game doesn't really space you ideally.
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is this game fun and or good?
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>>570935680
>can't even follow a conversation
watch this again >>570933407
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>>570935680
Fucking bootiful.
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>>570935837
holy mother of cope, last i checked 679 is higher than 300
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>>570935830
theres a demo, make your own mind retard
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>>570935837
You can juggle monsters like that in Arise too.
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>>570935519
>>570935774
>>570935823
So reading this it sounds like I'd want to do Manual for people like Alphen so I could possible hit multiple targets with his sword hitbox. But for Law I guess I'd have to get use Semi-Auto...I want to be on their ass anyway and was fucking around a bit with manual yesterday with mixed results.
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>>570935680
That's A LOT of damage
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>>570933407
>dark souls

Does Dark Souls have you control 3 other characters? Last I played it there's only one autonomous NPC and maybe another player-controlled character.
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>>570935997
whats a demo
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>>570936047
law is possibly the worst character to use semi-auto since you want to be able to do stuff like double jump > dive kick as a movement option and use some of his attacks to move you away from the enemy if an attack comes your way mid combo.
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What the FUCK is the riddle shit thingy? I'm literally trying eveywhere one of those stupid clues vaguely ressembles
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>>570936047
the only character i use semi auto on is dohalim because his melee moves have such wonky hitboxes
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>>570936163
All i know is one of the items is in the furthest north part of Iglia Wastes
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gay
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>>570935498
That's what bothers you? Not how they changed several characters' names including a party member?
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>>570936280
>takes your score
>takes your consumables
>doesnt even give you xp
>leaves
what a chad
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>>570936210
Dohalim is fun once you get all of his shit but goddamn Alphen is just way stronger.
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>>570935680
Any tips bro?
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>>570936280
>SP, 7 trillion per character
assuming you're not a filthy dlc cheater, spend your fucking sp
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>>570936280
Holy based.
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>>570936326
this except replace dohalim with alphen and replace alphen with law
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>>570935680
Rita who? Philia who? Malik who? Rinwell is now the best mage in the series.
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>>570936286
I'm not very far in, but I noticed a lot of added nonsense in character's responses too.
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>>570936370
replace Law with Zephyr
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>>570936327
30% penetration buff is nothing to scoff at.
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>>570933607
Why is everyone else just standing there?
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>>570936560
Do nothing strategy.
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>>570936480
Oh, yeah. The translation is bottom of the barrel tier and gets worse as you progress. In the second half of the game most NPC names are pronounced differently than what the subs say.
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>>570936560
theyre trying to catch glimpses of shionnes panties
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>>570935498
The localization makes some of the characters completely different at times, sometimes understandable considering the different culturual manneurisms but sometimes it gets really jarring
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>>570936606
It's not a translation, stop calling it one.
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>>570936606
The subs are pretty bad and full of grammar errors so I wouldn't trust them to be a fair comparison.
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Story is normal
Normal is Hard
Moderate is Hard
Hard is Chaos
Chaos is Chaos
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>>570936664
What do you call it then? I changed to Japanese text like 5 hours in
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>>570936697
Brain is dead
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>>570936728
A fucking rewrite.
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>>570936163
its in some pile of shit behind a set of bees.
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>arena
>novice
>suggested level 25
>my parties level 28
>wiped out every single time
h-haha who cares about arena, the rewards sucks anyway r-rite
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>>570936740
human is turtle
turtle is human
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>>570936548
Apparently penetration raises your crit chance is this true? i know it helps break armor easier but crit chance sounds really important especially for alphen who CHUNKS people with his crit buffs
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>>570936728
Extreme artistic liberties
So much dialogue is fluffed up with quips and completely different lines that even I who knows jack shit about Japanese can hear that they're not saying anything close to the same thing in each language.
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>>570936480
I am a JOP so I played in all moon.
I wonder if the complaints I heard about Rinwell being a bitch to Law has anything to do with the localisation.
Cause in Japanese it sounds like inoffensive friendly banters.
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>>570936832
the team one isnt that hard. The alphen solo on the other hand is what pisses me off. This nigger loses health everytime i accidentally hold a arte button too long. I managed to clear the ultimate trial after 18 failed attempts and level 63.
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>>570936893
it does penetration helps crits
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>set up healing arte usage to only after party loses 50% hp
>still runs out before even a single run of a new area finishes
also hate the "pls spend CP to do area thing" shit. god knows how much money's been thrown at orange gels and its not getting any better
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>>570936993
She's turboracist in Japanese too, it's not just banter.
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>>570937002
I really wish Alphen's shit worked with a modifier button or something. Like let me hold RB and then use the art button to charge it. So many instances of me holding a button for a little bit too long only to start draining his fucking health. It's annoying
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>beat a boss
>try again to see if I get better
This is Tales of DMC.
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>>570937079
He didn't even say anything about her racism. Besides, FUCK RENANS
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what a beautiful view.
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>>570937087
Why, the more health drained, the stronger.

Learn skill that fastens the drain and more damages.
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>>570937029
Money becomes a non issue after the third area. Just chain battle, get a shitload of crafting mats, then sell them in bulk for like 30k gald.
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>>570937029
save your orange gels for bosses anon just go back to camp, renew your food boost, ugprade your weapons with your new mats and raise your partys affection. only in the late game dungeons you should really use gels for exploration
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That's what I get for trusting Kisara.
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>>570937029
dont not try to do a full area in one go, especially the final dungeon, that shit is floors upon floors of enemies and two teleports in the entire dungeon, one in the middle and one right before the boss. By that point i was just resting back at the inn, and escaping fights i've already completed.
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>>570937136
Why don't they make Rinwell the secret boss?

She's fucking evil.
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>>570937029
>>570937167
How are people having issues with money? You literally start the game with 300k
I haven't spend like any of it yet
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>>570937178
cant knockdown overlimited enemies anon the kisara boost does give you a defense buff so you would have taken more damage than if you didnt do it though, not like it matters
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>>570937163
I didnt even realize i had unlocked this skill until i held the arte button for longer than i usually do during the volhran boss fight and alphen's health dropped to 1 HP.
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>>570937257
>using the DLC
enjoy your ruined game anon
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>>570937257
spotted the DLC fag. Early game you'll be lucky if you have 6k in every town. late game showers you with fucking money when you absolutely dont need it anymore.
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Rank the characters
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>>570937315
Jesus fuck, it's literally his 2nd skill set.
In fact, focus on that, that's main Alphen's mechanic, high risk high damage.
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>>570937029
I've never spent gald on anything but weapons, armors, and accessories after the 2nd realm on hard mode.
Heck the only time I use consumables is when I get the popup that I have max quantity because everything after that is piss easy.
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>pirated the DLC costumes
>comes with thousands of fucking SP
How much total SP do you get from all the DLC? I want to avoid using that much as I feel like it'll fuck up the balance of the game
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>>570937451
Dante-san?
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>>570937481
you get a ton, and yes the dlc really ruins the game, the costumes even come with titles that have really good skills and artes included so you should use it later imo
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>>570937409
Tbh reigning slash does more damage when it crits so i have no reason to use blazing sword anymore. the only reason to use blazing sword is to close distances using the pheonix air move.
>In fact, focus on that
I did early game. Im done with the game now.
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>>570937401
Shit >>>>>> Everyone else.
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>>570937576
Well, OK? I don't think Reigning slash will ever come close to Inferno Torrent, and Inferno Torrent can even stagger boss at part.
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>>570937576
blazing sword crits shit on reigning slash crits anon, since every single hit in the arte will crit. dont use it in the arena obviously but draining your hp to 1 to explode your enemy is pretty fun
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>>570937401
>Likeability
Rinwell > Alphen > Law > Kisara > Dohalim > Shionne
>Who I want to Fuck
Rinwell > Kisara > Law > Dohalim > Alphen > Shionne
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>>570933407
Remember when Talesof was actually good?
Me neither.
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Is there a list of Rinwell's combined spells?
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>>570937723
Rinwell is a racist Dahnigger.
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>>570937723
>wanting to fuck law over dohalim
what the fuck anon
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>>570937481
the costume packs give 2.1k total sp
which is absolutely nothing
this is only for the costume packs, not the other dlc packs
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>>570937782
It's the hip window of his default outfit. I just want to grab on them from behind
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>>570937723
YOU FUCK YOUNG BOYS, ANON?
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>>570932938
I think they said they burn the fuel for additional astral energy.
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>>570937481
I think you get like 1000 SP from the dlc and a SP boost during battles. its better not to claim them atleast until endgame.
>>570937709
Yeah keeping myself at 1 HP for the buff is what pisses me off especially when dungeons are fucking long. It was fun to use that until I reached Rena.
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>>570937723
Where did Shionne touch you, anon?
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>>570937842
true thats a pretty slutty outfit
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>>570937894
Not only is she one of the worst girls in any Tales game but she literally will kill you if you touch her. Sounds like a bad lay unless you are literally Alphen
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>>570937723
I must be the only one who hates Rinwell because the bitch seems sneaky.
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>>570937401
Coom
Kisara>Shionne in DLC costume>Rinwell

Gameplay
Alphen > Shionne > Dohalim > Rinwell > Law > Kisara
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>>570937401
>Bro tier
Dohalim

>Great once you get to know them tier
Rinwell, Kisara

>Generic trope-ish main characters tier
Alphen, Shione

>Utter shit tier
Law
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I ran out of money...
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>>570938027
Sell your body.
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>>570936893
Wait until you get the accessory that gives you +80% penetration but also -80% resistance and you're gonna see some wild shit
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>>570938025
>Utter shit tier
>Law
The dude's dad died man...cut him some slack...
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>>570937278
>cant knockdown overlimited enemies
I already know I'm retarded, but that actually never registered in my mind when trying to use her boost to block attacks.
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>>570938108
Oh shit.

DMD mode.
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>>570938027
Sell Shionne's body
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I'm doing fine on Hard, but I hate all the DLC shit, it's difficult to gauge how exactly they intended to balance it. I feel like money would be pretty scarce at points. I got the deluxe edition but the only advantage I claimed were the 100k and items (which I didn't use)
I've tried staying above 100k because that's basically my cheat fund, but it really feels like the game is ungenerous/grindy so people actually buy the DLC, levels/SP however are pretty trivial to grind once you get the chain system

All that being said I don't understand why Japanese developers include this shit, same with DMC5 having buyable red orbs, it's trivial to cheat numbers based stuff like this on PC, surely there aren't tards falling for it .. r-right?
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>>570938210
>>570938064
What about Kisara's body?
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>>570938108
There's also the joke weapons that give you high penetration but with barely any attack stats. I haven't bothered trying those but they're probably nuts together.
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>>570938027
Protip:
Equip the drop rate + accessories on everyone you can. Then eat for more drops. Combine with chain battles you get mountains of materials to sell.

Early game, turn off Shione's res arte and use life bottles. 1000 gald for a res is cheap compared to if you run out of CP and have to use orange gels. Save your CP for healing plus field actions.
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>>570938276
I think they actually try to balance it around the Deluxe editions as long as you deactivate the Artifacts.

The biggest problem is money, but it can be solved via grinding.
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>>570938276
the modern japanese gamer would rather spend his money than play the game
same reason they love gacha
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>>570938276
Yeah it just creates two entirely different experiences for players which is an odd choice. I pirated all the DLC for the costumes but they get bundled with all the artifacts, skill trees, and a bunch of money / SP.
I turned off the artifacts at the start, but you're still left with a huge advantage on top of having access to skills other people don't. It makes me feel the game wasn't intended for you to use those DLC skills but then why offer them up so I might as well use them...I dunno.
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>>570938420
This kind of shit came from western games you retard, the Japanese devs are just taking advantage of it because it's literally free money.
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>>570938484
>gacha
>came from west
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>>570938552
Where's the gacha in this game?
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>>570938484
retard
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the games telling me to steer clear of this zuegle, but i think i can take it
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>>570938617
You can, these bosses aren't hard as the mantis.

Do it, and get the CP boost.
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>zuegle
Wish they would've asked literally anyone on the planet if this is what they should've gone with. The name is just so dumb it makes me laugh every time someone says it with any amount of seriousness
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>>570938617
Yes, unlike the level 40 mantis in the fucking starting area this guy is no big deal.
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>>570938617
ALSO NIGGER YOU HAVEN'T UPGRADED YOUR SWORD YET WTF NIGGER?
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>>570938748
He may just like the aesthetic of the rusty sword and is using it for his outfit.
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>>570938617
is zephyr with you at this point you can scum it and make him do everything
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>>570938781
Ah, I forgot that, shit, that can be confusing.
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>>570938617
>game tells me mantis is too hard, I should avoid it
>haha silly game, you can't tell me what to do
>lvl 43
>game tells me octopus squid plant thing is too hard
>well, shit. Mantis was fucking impossible. Better stay clear now.
>lvl 16
I have no idea what kind of teachable moment devs were going for here.
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>>570934635
>cringe
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>>570938712
I have no idea why they would put an endgame boss in the starting area, and then give you a quest to take it out as soon as you reach the first town.

Every other boss so far is reasonably leveled for when you first reach them.
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>>570938880
Actually, the characters do say if you can take on them or not.
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>>570938880
>>570938931

Yeah...I wanted to avoid a game over after the mantis so I skipped the pig in Balsephs area as well as the plant as both times my party said "we can't do this" when I passed them.
I just assumed after the mantis that a red enemy would be a "post game" thing I'd have to do later after the mantis. Kind of retarded if they mix in ones you can actually fight around the area level.
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>>570938926
It's probably for the DLC cheat fags, you can take it easy at level 50.
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>>570938926
I liked it, I went and challenged the mantis and got rolled. Few dozen hours later I take my revenge.
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can anyone spoonfeed me good Kisara artes? So many of them are very slight variations of each other but it's hard to tell what's actually good on her.
>just try them out
I am and i really can't tell which ones are solid, compared to Alphen and Law where it's very easy to see that Double Demon Fang is a great spammable ranged option or Divine Demon Fist is a great high risk high reward move for Law.
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>>570938973
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>>570938748
rusted sword looks like it has blood on it, which is cool
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>>570939032
SHI SHI SEN KOU
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>>570939069
i don't play with gook language
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>>570939124
Then kill yourself nigger
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>>570939170
no
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>>570938123
>I don't care if I had to protect a villain who just killed thousands and could kill another thousand innocents
>Sorry pop for putting you in chopping block, but rest easy I've avenged you, I had my revenge but I won't let others to do the same
>Revenge bad
>But not when it's mine
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>>570939221
It's a girl so it doesn't count.
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>>570938926
That's a simple way of showing you that there are things worth coming back for, even late in game
Also the pleasure of being able to finally beat the fucker
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>>570939069
Based, i mained her immediately as soon as she acquired it and i still do, hands down the best arte in the series.
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>>570939221
Yeah honestly that felt so jarring, the game didn't have a problem with portraying revenge as okay in chapter 2, then turn around and go le revenge bad in chapter 4, when the personal situation is basically identical (Rinwell even sat on it longer) and Almedreia is arguably even more evil/dangerous
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I'm really struggling with the fact that I can't dodge out of attack animations.
I'm really struggling with the fact that some enemies (looking at you, you fucking soldier knight dudes) need forever to get staggered.
There's some unholy synergy going on in this game's combat.
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How do I activate Rim overlimit skill? It says to hold 2 buttons after I cast a spell but it never works.
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just got the redheaded pajeet, am i halfway through the game yet? also when is the best time to do arena battles?
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>>570939507
I wanted to main her because she's the hottest piece of ass, but not being able to dodge and her somewhat clunky artes/short range basic attacks (and basically no Aerial Artes to start with) made her kinda boring, what artes do you need for her to be fun?
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>>570939585
Treat Alphen's Boost attack (guaranteed knockdown) and your character's boost attack as cancels and things flow a lot better.

Obviously works worse if you actually play as Alphen though.
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>>570939221
>Hey all these people who were hyped as shit about burning that bitch alive just turned into goo
>You probably shouldn't be hyped as shit about trying to kill the bad lady, chill out a bit first, just saying
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>>570939585
I think the combat would be perfect if you could dodge cancel out of attack animations but if I say that I know people will come out of the woodwork to shout "BUT RISK REWARD COMBAT HURR DURR YOU HAVE TO PLAN ATTACKS". Whatever man, I just want it to be fun.
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>>570939585
there's also moments where ive seen the CPU literally stand beside me doing absolutely nothing when it was actually important to keep the combo going
the design choices for this tales of are hurting my head
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When does the Shionne fashion critic quest advance?
The guy said he's going to find some clothes but I'm now in the second area and he still didn't.
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Now which of these girls like darker complexion gentlemen?
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>>570939221
>>570939525
>>570939723
I mean maybe Law is speaking from experience that revenge doesn't get you anything as it didn't help him at all deal with his trauma.
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>>570939124
>Plays with the godatrocious dub
OH to the NO to the NO NO
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>>570939729
It'll be quite a while, you can only complete that quest after you defeat the 5 lords
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>>570939729
When you're done with the 5th area
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>>570939779
Dohalim is quite popular among menancia ladies
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>>570939729
After you finish the 5th kingdom
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>>570939525
This. Some of the cutscenes were the biggest cringe I have experienced in a long time. That Kisara scream cutscene was just painful.
Someone's father dies? that's ok
Mass genocide turning people into metal goo? that's ok
One of the lords said he was "selfish" because he killed his friend and didn't want anyone to suffer? 2 minutes of insane jap bitch screaming and destroying your ear drums
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>>570939723
But that was because they were already prepped with this stupid fruit (such a weird plotpoint honestly)
>>570939792
This one at least makes sense as a counter argument
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>>570939814
>>570939818
>>570939858
What in the goddamn?
Why are they doing this?
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>>570939903
Same reason they give you a quest for a level 40+ mantis in the first area.
Their design for side quests is garbage and shit.
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>>570932160
>>570933607
......why is everyone just standing still...?
What the fuck did they do to the tales combat
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>>570939903
More than half the side quests you accept cant be done until later in the game because of level requirements.
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>unbreakable
>have to rely on fucking boost strikes in which Alphen's and Law's are the only ones that stun
>Rinwell's boost strike is only useful for when he casts something
>49k hp
>you deal about 20 per hit
>Indignation HP check
>attacks can't be reliably telegraphed because Shionne and Rinwell are spamming shit
>clones are are also bullshit

Literally how do I beat this bullshit? Just fucking bring back Power Charge.
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>>570939903
Why not?

Call you back to beat the mantis.
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>>570939961
Law's Boost strike breaks his shield and stuns him, as well as Alphen.

Combo him hard, get Law and Alphen's Boost strike up.
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So Mantis is obviously not ideal to fight when you first encounter him.
Is there a list of Gigant enemies that I can actually engage when I first see them? People seeing not every one is complete bullshit like the Mantis and it makes me wonder why the fuck they start with that one only to give you other ones that are more possible to defeat when you first encounter them
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>>570939958
Impeccable bait
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>>570939958
They are put on Do Nothing mode, retard.
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>>570939951
>>570939963
At least with the mantis quest you know when to return, but "wait until thing happens" is vague and makes you check back once in a while.
Fucking dumb.
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>>570939878
Yeah couldn't connect to that either, so far the only writing I like in the game is banter between Alphen and Shionne/Law, worldbuilding is okay, but with some of the elements not fitting together super well yet, I'm expecting some major twists that might make it retarded or work better
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>>570940049
up to the 5th area and Mantis is the only one you shouldn't fight immediately
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>>570939961
Put on defense against light, munch those jellies and take it like a champ.
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>>570940049
Everything not Mantis so far, the strategy should be after you beat the region boss, go back and beat the Gigant.
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>>570939726
Artes with long animation like Dragon Swarm and Sword Rain should've been able to get canceled with arte mastery. Aside from Hearts R you can't do that but Arise is supposed to shift the core gameplay anyway, might as well go all the way.
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>>570939961
Equip everyone with Alexandrites. Problem solved.
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>>570940049
You can fight everything as soon as you encounter them besides the Mantis and the 4 optional bosses near the end of the game.
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>>570939961
>attacks can't be reliably telegraphed because Shionne and Rinwell are spamming shit
I wholeheartedly agree with this...is this what I'm going to have to deal with in this game or is there a setting I can fuck with to turn this shit down?
Literally couldn't see shit during half the fight because of all the spell effect spam from party members.

Also...is there a way to turn down the character voice audio but only in combat? I don't want to turn down voices in cutscenes, I just don't want to hear everyone fucking screaming out their attacks as it becomes a jumbled mess.
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>>570939961
keep rolling and spam your highest dealing move, probably reigning slash if you're playing it without the dlc cheats
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>>570937401
Dohalim > Kisara > Law > Alphen > Shionne > Rinwell
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>Light weak enemy
>Store shooting star, cast the next one
>Use Alphen boost strike for down state and hold giganto in place
>Double shooting star land
>97k in 3 seconds for all of that
Rinwell is so goddamn overpowered, I fucking love it.
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>>570940101
>>570940129
>>570940169
God that's such a retarded design decision to introduce you to Gigants with the Mantis. Makes you feel like you can't do any Gigants...guess I'll go back to the past few ones and fight them.
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>>570940171
Play on japanese, you won't notice the screams.
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>>570939959
>cant be done
The only sidequest I waited to do was the Mantis. which I did around level 20-25. The 3 lights are more than manageable underleveled, they just take a bit of work. Sidequest placement is still retarded, though.
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>>570939961
Do the same thing in here >>570933835
It's not the same boss but I'm not gonna restart the game just to fight him again.
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So your party members have access to all artes when they are AI controlled, but when you take control you can only access the ones you've slotted?
Did I get this right?
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Why does this game tell me to mix up my attacks when spamming the same elemental move on enemies with an elemental weakness seems to be the most efficient way to fight?
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>>570940343
What difficulty are you playing on? because on hard I could take on the mantis at 28 and survive. I came back at 39 to kill him.
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>>570940452
yes please understand only 3 artes
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>>570940452
Yep...technically you have access to all artes as you can pause the game and swap out artes in combat. But that's obviously less than ideal and pretty retarded.
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>>570940501
>>570940343
Couldn't
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>>570940238
Rinwell is broken and stunlocks the fuck out of bosses too. Made the game easy mode desu, wouldn't reccommend.
Shooting star absolutely melts giant bosses.
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>>570940550
Fucking hell my keyboard has enough buttons, just let me slot them all.
That would make playing as shionne and rinwell way more fun.
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>>570940661
>keyboard

Um...but what about people playing with a controller? That doesn't seem very fair, anon.
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>>570940706
>but what about people playing with a controller
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>>570940501
Hard for most of the game, switched to Chaos as soon as it opened.
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Will protag ever get access to fire artes that don't kill him?
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>>570940615
Yeah, if she's not outright killing shit after 2-3 casts, they're getting stunlocked until they're dead. She does make the game ez mode, but I still enjoy the mages playstyle in some of the last few Tales games to still roll with it, and Rinwell is no exception.
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>>570941064
>second area makes it clear that I have to use fire artes
>literally have zero that don't drain HP

Fuck you too devs.
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>>570940489
Spamming the same move reduces your effective Penetration stat in the combo, which means far weaker Break output AND far less likely Critical Hits.
Crits have a bigger damage multiplier than Elemental Weakness, and Crits refill your AP (once you've unlocked those Skills), meaning you can combo more which ensures triggering Boost Attacks more frequently in rapid succession against enemies at higher thresholds of health.
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>HP
>AP
>SP
>CP
Jesus christ this game is confusing
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How's the dub?
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>>570941731
It's fine. It's more the script that is the issue. Lots of teen angst "woe is me" type anime tropes. But the performances are decent.
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>>570933835
>>570939961
Literally Tales of Attrition.
Bring back fucking Power Charge with bloated boss hp and just have the boss one hit your ass so there's at least a modicum of skill involved.
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>>570941731
>>570941924
>playing ANY jrpg with english dub

You are literally animals.
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>>570942002
I do it because my GF likes watching me play games and she is more engaged if they are speaking english instead of japanese. If it's agame I know she won't enjoy (like Fire Emblem), I'll go with the japanese dub. However if it's a story game like this, I'll always opt for english.
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>>570941662
What's so hard to remember?
Homo Power
Action Penis
Sexy Potential
Cheese Pizza
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Are there mods for arise?
I fucking hate the main girl, she's such a cunt.
I'd rather her be anybody else, even if it makes the mc gay or just swap her model with mc.
Anybody else is fine.
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>>570942002
there are occasionally good ones like resonance of fate
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>beat ganabelt because zephyr is kill
>gets pissed he can't do anything about all the deaths that's eventually gonna happen
>shionne bitch slaps his dumbass and drops the truth bomb about war and death
>alphen is pissed because shionne told him off and that "bickering among each other gets us nowhere"

I haven't seen these level of retard from Tales since Luke.
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>>570942275
There are none, this is just a cope
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>>570942002
I don't speak Moon so I can't tell if they're good, their pronounciation might be completely off and I'd have no clue
Also the subtitles in this game are atrocious, whoever did them should be fired.
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>>570942312
Nah, he accepts later that she kind of had a point.
They just clash a lot because Shionne's pragmatism is pretty extreme.
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Why the fuck does Alphen do literally nothing when i set battle to auto? The only skills he uses are demon fang, double demon fang, and howling azure storm.
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this fucker is stronk
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>>570942508
punishment for being a dlc cheater
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>>570941572
Why are you so scared of drain HP?
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>>570942249
It's the Unreal Engine, so model replacement should be very easy. Gamebanana already has a few texture replacers, but nothing else yet.
I'd want a mod that replaces one of Alphen's swords with this generic greatsword that shows up everywhere. It looks nicer.
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>>570942508
Friendly melee AI is fucking dogshit, they don't even know how to doge and always tank hits all day
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>>570942540
It can't do shit if you stay behind it.
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wow these glasses go really good with rinwell
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>>570934025
kek isn't she like 15 or something
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Ever since Dohalim unlocked his newest skill all i hear, the entire battle, non-stop is:
>Scream, bathed in blood
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>>570942661
i do but the AI keeps rushin in front
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So what's the deal with shining enemies? they're not stronger than the normal ones, they don't drop anything special either
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>>570942745
>no option to turn off battle banter
Not sure why JRPGs continue to release games without this fucking option.
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>>570942774
they increase battle score and do have more hp
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>>570941662
Don't forget "score". What the fuck does that one do? Is there a grade shop in NG+ like in the previous game or what?
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>>570942960
score is for a combat point meter you get after finishing the 2nd area
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>>570942753
Then switch to them for a few seconds.
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>>570942869
That's it? I thought they're gonna drop some rare material or something
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>>570942960
they removed grade according to another anon in the other thread
everything is free in the ng+ shop
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>>570942632
I have a terrible eye for noticing my party performance. So by your logic, for optimal combat my party members should be the casters (Shionne, Rinwell, Dohalim)?
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>>570943006
Duh. You get score after combat encounters, and they're points. I'm asking what does it do? What's it for? What can I spend it on?
>>570943051
So, is there any incentive to play on harder difficulties then? Are there bonus exp or sp multipliers?
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>>570932429
lol ok anon
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>>570943069
Yes and you should go after enemies that are aggroing on them.
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>>570942960
It's just a "did you die five hundred times and spammed life bottles to beat this" indicator.
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lemme stagger bosses too you shitty stagger mod
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>>570943198
Use a cheat engine table and enable infinite boost gauge.
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>>570942960
Score contributes towards your arte proficency, the amount of exp and sp you earn in battle as well.
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>>570943129
score is literally only for combat point meter, and there is a multiplier for sp and score if you play on harder difficulties
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>>570943293
I see, so it's like an overall multiplier.
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>>570943019
They do so indirectly since a shiny enemy will shoot your Chain Battle thing to its max in a single fight where it would otherwise take five or so fights in a row to do the same. Makes it more likely to get higher rarity stuff in the next fight.
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>>570934025
spit my fucking drink out when it happened. was not expecting the little girl character to get her face bounced off the cement like a Worldstar video
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>>570943129
>So, is there any incentive to play on harder difficulties then? Are there bonus exp or sp multipliers?
doesn't seem like it, there's a score multiplier and sp multiplier but it's pretty useless if retards can just finish it on easy and get all ng+ perks >>570911828
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>>570932160
>Enemies actually attack every now and again instead of spending the whole fight being juggled/combo'd like a sandbag.
Slightly better than expected from a Tales game
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>>570934025
please tell me something like this happens to Shionne as well I hate her
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>>570943494
Hm. Should I leave post-game for NG+ then? It doesn't scale with NG+ cycle like in Dark Souls, does it?
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>>570943524
Enemies attacking would be fine if you could actually see them/know when they were about to stagger. Or if you could dodge cancel.
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>>570934717

zero fear, chad owl
stares down the main villain like he's a colossal virgin loser
nothing but respect for that damn bird
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>>570943019
There's no such thing as rare material. Materials have limited use in this game, you can pretty much get all the materials needed for crafting weapons by grinding a little, the leftover ones you can sold for some money, that's about it
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>>570943549
She already gets thoroughly BTFO'd by Dohalim in their first encounter.
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>Can't rewatch cutscene
What is this bullshit? It's 2021 for fuck's sake
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>>570943568
not sure, i don't think anybody has tried it yet
maybe not
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>>570943613
>grinding a little

I always get more than enough materials for everyone just by killing everything.
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>>570943636
Dude, the skit/cutscene archive is one of the first things the game teaches you/ Reminisce at a campfire.
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>>570935273
Velvet is my wife you cocksucker.
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>>570943587
The way that should be handled is to make them attack more often instead of spending 70% of the fight just standing there, and make the animation recovery time long enough to properly punish, so that you know you can safely attack during their recovery and are never in a situation where you're just sitting there waiting for a boss to do something because attacking him when he isn't doing anything is unsafe.
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How big is Alphen's dick?
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>>570935680
BLAH BLAH BLAH
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favourite artes for each character?
favourite artes for ai party members?
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>>570943936
big enough for rinny to go bright eyed.
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>>570943808
Not that dude.
Skit is skit, cutscene is only Anime only
The 3D one doesn't exist
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>>570944080
Well, I guess I was wrong then. I haven't actually used that feature, I just know it's there.
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What are Dohalim's bonus when he cooks? I don't if it's my pc or the stupid localization but the text just stops when it's about to tell me what it does
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>>570936832
Literally all of them are pretty easy, except Alphens. He really needs a self heal with how his flaming sword worksm
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playing Vesperia ng+, should I go through necropolis and get the weapons in there or the ex dungeon for levels first?
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Did the game’s story ever explain how all of the cast are able to use elemental artes, if supposedly just a Renan and Dahnan mage thing?
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>>570944146
Yeah, the english text just cuts off. I think it strengthens the food effect when it's about to run out, or something.
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>>570943780
I always fell short of some materials even though I always make sure to cook meal that increase drop rate before I kill everything
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>>570944181
Yes keep playing
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>>570944181
There's a difference between
>element coded attack
and
>actual magic
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>>570938276
This has been a thing since literally vesperia. The game is not as hard as people make it out to be. Money is a pain to get, until you realize you can sell monster parts. Then you can just chain a field and have 20k in sellable bits in 30 minutes.
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Are you actually supposed to be able to see in combat? Or is everyone just spamming their strongest ability and spamming dodge?

How the fuck are you supposed to see telegraphed attacks from enemies with the amount of spell effects that are going on? It literally sometimes feels like I'm blind.
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>Their yours
Woooow
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>>570944212
You also need to keep your combat points / scores high for better drop rates
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Anyone else not actually miss the old Skit system any more because the new one actually reflects your costume choices for outfits?
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>>570938617
Every one of these is doable upon encountering them, except the mantis.

Though I did leave and come back to the dragon In the third area too to be fair.
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>>570944309
You are blind and you can just pause the game.
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>>570944317
>you don't even know English
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Cross blade when? I'm happy to finally have a fire spell, but damn.

Also those 6 spell slots are getting crammed.
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>>570944317
There are tons of mistakes like this in the dialogue of this game, indie games and romhacks have less typos and grammar errors than this shit.
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>>570944317
They also like to use "of" when it should have been "off"
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>>570944391
Yeah the new skit is nice
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>>570944393
I was 8 levels behind and on hard with barely no items, no way I was doing the dragon.
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>>570943936
Ask Shionne
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Is there a need to edit the default tactics setting? Seems like it keeps me alive and I'm not having trouble killing shit.

I'm a brainlet and the menu seemed pretty daunting, is there anything I should change or any recommended tactics settings I should add?
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Playable Zephyr is soon right?
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I don’t know why but boomers like this game more than milleniaşs and zoomers.
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>>570944391
no, i don't wear costumes
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This Aggro modifier is excellent.
Rarely does anything aim at Shionne.
Meanwhile I gave Kisara Increased Aggro L and everything swarms her most of the time. With everything almost always clustered together, Rinwell and Shionne get to AOE nuke all enemies at once with ease.
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>>570944556
Dragon is easy as hell. 3 of your boost strikes can knock it down and all of its attacks are telegraphed to hell and back. Hardest part of the fight is dealing with the boars.
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>>570944657
33 year old boomer here, can confirm.
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I like the gameplay and character designs but my god the story and setting is so generic are the other tales games like this?
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>>570944746
>33 year old
>boomer
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Shionne has a surprisingly cute butt in her swimsuit outfit.
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>>570944786
Yes, really yes.
This game is a lot like older tales too.
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>>570944786
>are the other tales games like this?
Yes.
Every single Tales game is like a "B-tier" movie but in anime form. People won't admit it, but anyone who enjoys a Tales story is doing so from a "guilty pleasure" standpoint. No one actually enjoys the stories in these games unironically.
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Why won't this game let me to switch between main parties and reserves in combat
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>>570944657
Exhibiti a>>570944786
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>>570944657
25 here and i like Arise.
Am i a Zoom zoom or a boomer?
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>>570944885
It does.
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>>570943524
based retard that never played a single Tales game.
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>>570944904
Post top 10 games
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>>570944714
>4 Skills
WHAT THE FUCK HOW
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>>570944601
Easier to Break/Stagger
Higher Crit Chance
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>>570938707
EYY BUDDY IM ZOOGLIN HERE
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>finally discover a spell combination from 2 different elements for rinwell
>30 minutes later it becomes an equippable arte of its own no need to mix it
>find another one
>same thing happens
>then she unlocks one I didn't even discover
Is there more than these three or is that it? I dont even know what to put into my artes list anymore there's not enough room for all this shit
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>>570944786
most of them but there are some which doesn't have a generic setting
xillia's protagonist is a student doctor (masseur) who fights like law and is also the healer of the group in early game
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>>570944916
How? I don't mean boost attacks from reserve members, but actually switching your main and reserves during combat
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>>570945084
Did you miss the big edit icon in the battle menu?
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>>570945084
its the Edit function in the battle pause menu
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>>570944786
Legendia has a unique setting but generic story, Vesperia has a generic setting but last I remember the story was alright.
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>>570945145
>>570945147
Oh shit I'm blind, thanks
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>>570944978
There are tier 4 and tier 5 ores that allow more substats.
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>>570944978
Just get some Rank 4 Ore, bro
Rank 5 comes later, with five skills per accessory and Skill Customization
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>reach second intro
>"here's some spoilers to keep you engaged, dear player!"
fucking why?
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>>570945145
>>570945147
is there no quicker option without going to the menu or is that the only way during combat
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>>570945348
Why not i like it
The music is kino as fuck too
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>>570945348
I swear Japanese intros almost always spoil shit, its just that theres no context. The second op does seem a bit on the nose though.
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>twitter crying about how tales handles racism wrong because the people being oppressed aren't black
lmao
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does anyone NOT like alphens +1 normal ground attack because of how it lightly launches enemies or is it better to just normal jump after that slash
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>>570945424
As far as I know, no.
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>>570940615
when do you learn shooting star?
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So i just spam Spells when playing Dohalim right?
Seem like his melee artes doesn't do much damages
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>>570945424
I thought there was a way to swap members when holding the change target button...but maybe that's just swapping party leader and not reserves
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>>570943968
TIDALWAVE
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>>570945668
I basically stopped using normal attacks once I got some extra AG
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>>570945424
that's all we got until modders pick up the slack I guess
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they shouldve fucked
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>>570945668
it seems like most characters basic attacks fit their arte kits very poorly because they have awkward startup that drops combos or move enemies too far or high for some artes to make contact after. My eyes rolled so hard when I saw the startup of Dohalims air basic attack.
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Does Shionne have any skills that put her into the air? Literally every member of my party seems to have atleast one skill that does that orher than her.
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>>570946352
Nah, they're fine as platonic friends. Alphen and Shionne being the main couple with Law and Rinwell being the secondary budding relationship was fine. No need to pair off everyone.
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>>570946352
you think an arab ruler keeps a female guard around and DOESN'T fuck her constantly?
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>>570946352
No Kisara is for me
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>>570946352
Kisara thinks of herself as his mother.
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>>570946592
Yes since they have unlimited access to prime cunny
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>>570932160
This does not matter. Tales was always style over substance and in no way deep or complex. Literally all that matters is whether the combat feels satisfying and how good the encounter design is and judging by how universally well received Arise is it looks like that's the case.
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>>570944476
A little after the 5th Lord. My guess is they didn't wanna give people easy early Maelstroms.
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>>570946538
why do the men have pubes but not the women
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>>570932160
Party based action JRPGs are a mistakes, either the party members are:

>too strong, so the games is too easy
>or too weak, so they're a liability

There is no inbetween, nobody has ever done this right, either make it turn based with party members or make it single player action game.

You cannot argument against facts.
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>barely defeated Volrun after using most of my healing items
>sigh of relief
>ENTER PHASE 2
MOTHAFUCKA
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>>570946352
They kind of imply they will once Kisara starts calling him Do and inviting him to visit her
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>>570946784
Arise did it right, Trials of Mana remake tried do it but failed.
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>>570946784
Star Ocean Till the End of Time.
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>>570945424
Yes
Hold L2+Dpad, then hold Dpad to swap those two on the fly without needing to pause.
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>>570946875
Thank god the 2nd phase is far easier since he stays still a lot to cast easy-to-dodge ice spells.
The phase 1 is crazy hard, he keeps moving around, he fucking cheated when he only had 50% HP with permanent overlimit and 0 damage INVINCIBILITY FRAME (it's actually visible).
Fuck this guy.

Also,
>2nd opening kicks in
HOLY MOTHER OF KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>570945069
I think it's just Maelstrom, Shooting Star, and Meteor Storm.
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>>570947019
im still learning new tech 30 hours in
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>>570946784
They're not a mistake outside of being garbage to play because you can't control multiple party members in an action game.
On the other hand, another mistake they made with this game is not letting you legit solo, on one hand because they once again don't give you the option to have a single party member like a lot of Tales of, on the other because the game is so dependant on its gimmick boost arte mechanic you'll be constantly summoning other characters to boost break enemies.
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>Star Ocean: Tales of Ys Souls
you rike?
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Still trying to beat my previous Ganabelt record, I'm getting better.
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>>570946719
That just makes it hotter.
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>>570947080
Just spam Life Bottle brah
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>dark bottle effect in this game is a result of Alphen burning chicken
very nice
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>>570947174
There is nothing Souls in this game.

It's more like Tales of DMC.
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>>570947183
Now that's just autism.
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I wish the AoT shitposter’s predictions ended up being right, at least there would be an epic meltdown with that
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>>570947316
Why not? I just want to use less life bottles.
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Why is the blonde knight's ass so fat? I can't even concentrate on anything else.
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Sekiro perfected the action game style, why not just make every game like sekiro now?
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>>570947362
There is already many epic meltdown on some the trolls here, they can barely type intelligible words.
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>>570947362
alphen literally got cucked tho
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>>570947362
What predictions
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>>570947273
>There is nothing Souls in this game.
There's a dodge button and your attack is by default on the right bumper / r1 button. That sounds pretty "soulslike" to me.
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>>570947362
Well they're not totally wrong since Naori fucked somebody else than Alphen so he copes by fucking her conveniently identical descendant.
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>>570947532
Then I guess DMC is the original Souls, or Ninja Gaiden.
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>>570947532
ignore the dmc nigger
reminder that the DMC nigger has never played DMC nor tales of arise
>claims that DMC has toggle lock on
>claims that you can boost strike bosses through combos
just ignore the SEAnigger
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does this mean anything
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For me, It's Midnight Battle Garb
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~70IQ: *spam artes that look cool*
100 IQ: *try to build up effective combo with 12 different artes*
130+ IQ: REIGNING SLASH REIGNING SLASH REIGNING SLASH
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how did shionne steal the fire core from the fire lord?

they never explained it
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>>570947273
>There is nothing Souls in this game.
Oh it's the DMC schizo again, maybe if you played videogames instead of shitposting you'd have seen the literal Asylum Demons in Arise.
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>>570947624
You can fuck him now.
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>>570947616
Uh, you can literally Boost strikes through boss, I'm doing it right now with Ganabelt.

He can be stunlock to kingdom come if you can get Law to fuck him up.
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>>570947531
Alphen genocides 80% Rena.
Shionne decapitates him and kisses his head.
Alphen’s final moments are an incel rant about Shionne finding other men.
Years later, Shionne fucks another man and brings him and the baby to Alphen’s gravestone.
Rehna bombs Dahna in retaliation for Alphen’s genocide a century later.
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>>570947428
Press parry to win is perfected?
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>>570947663
Please post it?

And even then, it doesn't play anything like Souls.
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>>570947624
Dohalim will now die for you
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Should've went with Nier Automata plot
>the renans are already extinct and the renans on dahna are robots (spirits) with fake memories
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>>570947640
Best players don't do reigning slash, weird.
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This is probably the first Tales game in a long time where femc is best gril. Dohalim is still the best though. I really wish they didn't cheap out on the usual Tales character stuff, the later skits do have some of them like Alphen getting mad at a tiny pebble inside his boot.
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>>570947756
I stopped following Attack on Titan after the first season, what the fuck happened in that show?
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>>570947756
But thats just the AoT ending
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>>570947980
>femc is best gril
Shionne literally has zero redeeming qualities. Can you please try to convince me why you think she is the best in any conceivable way?
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>>570947640
150+ IQ: BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE
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>>570948003
NOOOO I DON'T WANT THAT! SHIONNE FINDING ANOTHER MAN? EVEN AFTER I DIE, I WANT HER TO REMEMBER ME! 10 YEARS AT LEAST!
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why did he do it bros? is he a good guy? seems like hes doing a service by killing those filthy zoogulls
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>>570948003
That's the legit ending of the manga. Just replace Alphen with Eren and Shionne with Mikasa.
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>>570948121
She's rational and cute?
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>>570948081
AoTfaggot spammed a pasta about this game ending the same as AoT because the director praised Life is Strange like Isayama did
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>>570948121
Shes caring, pragmatic and extremely driven. All excellent qualities in a woman.
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>>570948141
>villain is bad because... he's le bad!
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>>570948168
>shionne
>rational
What game have you been playing?
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>>570948201
The same AoTfaggot still posts here, he just replaces the pasta with Tales of Souls.
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>>570947756
That's just Shingeki no Autism
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>>570948141
He's literally fucked in the head like some of the people here in /v/.
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>>570948206
>Shes caring
I just finished the second area and she has been a complete and utter bitch for the 10 or so hours I've played.
Am I playing a different game or something?
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>>570948246
Tales of Arise?

Tell me when is she not rational?

I swear some of the fags don't seem to play the game.
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I'm getting towards the end of the game and the rose-colored glasses came off like 10 hours ago.
Dungeons feel the samey. I think elevators are just a meme now. No seriously, there have never been this many dungeons where it's "Hey. Get this elevator to work. Now do it again." I stopped caring about the story after the big twist near the end and I'm pretty much skipping most cutscenes now.

What went wrong?
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>>570947756
god am i glad i thought aot retarded shit and dropped it after like 15ch back in the day. if thats accurate the chan-wide seething over it was actually quite tame.
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>>570947980
Rin is cuter, flatter and isn't a tsundere bitch
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>>570948336
Did she kill and rape your family?
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Kisara>Rinwell>Shionne
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>>570948351
Your entire life went wrong.
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>>570948351
>What went wrong?
Giving Tales of to the God Eater devs.
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>>570948378
>Rinwell
>not a bitch
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>>570948351
You lack attention span?
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How far can Rinwell break this game?
>>570948121
I don't know, I didn't really like her very much in the beginning but a lot of the little things added up and ended up liking her after everything was done.
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>>570948492
Racist girls are the best
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>>570948489
Some Tales devs make Scarlet Nexus and you still say it's God Eater devs anyway.

Oh well, it's /v/, everyone is God Eater devs.
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>>570948492
She's merely racist, like all the best Tales girls
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Talesfags like the most annoying bitches it seems, first Luke now Rinwell.
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>>570948351
dungeon design has been really bad for a decade now, removing the overworld was the biggest mistake
i wouldn't have expected anything in arise but tomizawa is a lying faggot who had ro get my hopes up
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>>570931270
for some reason my PC version, when using a controller, keeps pointing the camera up on its' own and i dunno how to fix this. Anyone have a clue?
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>>570948140
LMAO
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>>570947756
I was there when it happen
One of the best train wreck in the anime industry i tell you
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>>570948683
t. glownigger
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>>570948714
At least he fixes the combat.
I hope the next Tales goes open world or bring back the overworld.
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>>570948121
She lust for Alphen's cock
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>>570947980
Something must have gotten massively fucked up during development, the huge amount of skits that open after you enter the final dungeon were definitely meant to be spread throughout the game.
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>>570948336
Shes cold initially due to her condition, but she obviously cares and is just putting up a facade. By the 4th area shes basically the most loving member of the cast, if not for Kisara being pure mommy mode all the time.
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>>570946538
wait did someone go out of their way to make the pubes? i cant even...
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>>570948782
>At least he fixes the combat
if throwing the entire thing and putting a different one means fixing to you then yes
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>>570948782
>At least he fixes the combat.
He didn't fix anything about the combat.
They added back some things like normal attacks and aerial attacks and at the same time they went backwards on so many other things none of the mechanics they brought back matter.
If anything the series keeps moving away from what Tales should be even with Arise.
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>tier 1 dodgers
Shionne, Law
>PROTECT THE CASTERS/ANOTHER ARTE INTERRUPTED tier
D'OHalim, Rinworse
>I'm going to eat attacks with my face and get away with it because of my pocket healer tier
Alphen
>just don't bother putting her in the party unless you're gonna manually control her tier
Kisara
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>>570948534
Give me tips on playing rimwell. Outside of just spamming her air spells I dont really get her.
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>>570948923
Tales hasn't had good combat since it leaves the 2D stage until Arise comes around and embrace the 3D environment.
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>>570948714
How I wish we'd get an overworld map again.
>>570948876
Yeah, and the party just stays static althroughout the first part and then it just dumps them all in the short second part. I think they also tried to humanize the lords too, and I wish they actually did that while they were actually still alive.
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>>570948782
>At least he fixes the combat.
lmao
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>>570948936
I leave Kisara out of the party unless I specifically need her for a fight. But I do make her the leader on the overworld just so I can stare at her gigantic ass all day.
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>>570948931
Can you tell me what Tales should be? TP or CC? 3D or 2D?

And yes, he objectively fixes the combat for a 3D game.
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Almost at the final boss now but the best Acc i can craft is 3, did i do something wrong?
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>>570949095
Why don't you play the games instead of shitposting about them?
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>Downloaded this last night
>Takes awhile to get used to the new combat system compared to the older games
Can you even block in this game and when do you get a second skill set?
Having only 3 artes is fucking dogshit
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>>570949137
Why don't you?

Do you even play Tales?
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>>570948990
yeah yeah and you haven't played all of the 3d games and you got filtered by free run and lmbs and think that kh is the epitome of 3d combat i've already heard it
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>>570949079
>so I can stare at her gigantic ass all day.
Based, She really does have one of the best rumps I've ever seen in a Tales game
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>>570949135
Lmao wha,t I got level 4 drops in the second area even before the second lord.
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>>570948936
Disable Alphen's long artes like Dragon Swarm and Explosive Ring and he'll dodge as well as Law. The CPU is good at dodging shit as long as they're doing nothing, but they have no logic about when it's a bad idea to use a move that lasts 35 seconds.
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>>570949161
I assure you I play Tales and other videogames much more than you.
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>>570949162
So I need to play all the 3D games, despite the fact Abyss, Vesperia, Xillia and Xillia 2 use the same TP system?

And no, I don't want to play Xillia.
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>>570949150
>when do you get a second skill set?
>Having only 3 artes is fucking dogshit
Oh anon...please understand 3 artes is all you need
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>>570949135
even without the rare ore meal I was getting 4s and 5s by atleast the 5th realm, are you just ignoring all the big ore deposits or something?
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>>570949229
Proof?
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>>570949150
You will get another set, but you can these 3 artes together.
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>>570949135
eat your veg cooked by law. i had a few 4s around 3d realm and a fuckton by 4th. still no fives in 5th, but i only got to the castle and cant subject myself to the tedium of combat for now.
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>>570949242
>despite the fact Abyss, Vesperia, Xillia and Xillia 2 use the same TP system?
Xillia/Xillia2 use a hybrid CC/TP system, they're nothing like Abyss or Vesperia, you'd know that if you actually played any of those games, DMC schizo.
The most laughable thing of all is that you seriously think TP means anything by itself when it's about literally everything else, Graces and Destiny DC both use CC but they play nothing alike.
But oh well, for you it's just another day of shitposting about games you never played and defending the embarassing shitshow that is Arise, even though you didn't even play that.
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>>570941971
This, who's fucking idea was it to have your only way to avoid damage be a specifically timed dodge in a game where you can't fucking see anything?
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>there will be trolls trashing Arise combat for years to come, until the next Tales come out
Oh well, maybe not years, there's the mobile game.
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>>570949269
I'm too used to having 8+ skills man
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>>570948950
She has an internal "arte tree" per se, the more you chain artes the faster she casts spells. You eventually get to instant cast every spell.
Your early bottle neck is AG, but you can work around this by using boosts while also getting the get more boosts during 10 hit combos for other chars. If you run out of boosts, you can hop to start your AG regen while still keeping your instant casts.
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>>570949269
Well, some characters like Dohalim have basically no artes so it's kind of correct, as sad as it sounds.
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>>570942312
At least in Abyss Luke had some sort of excuse and was rightly weirded out about how jaded (lol) Jade was about taking a life, which worked later for character bonding moments when Jade admits he's kinda lost touch of his humanity.
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>>570949451
>The most laughable thing of all is that you seriously think TP means anything by itself when it's about literally everything else, Graces and Destiny DC both use CC but they play nothing alike.
So do you play want TP or CC?

Because Abyss and Vesperia use TP and I don't like how they play compared to Destiny CC.
In fact, Destiny DC is closer to this game since it doesn't limit your movement.
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>>570949484
Isn't this the cycle for every new Tales game?
They bash it saying the combat is shit and just say the older tales were better. Then a new one comes out, and the cycle starts all over again. I swear I've seen people saying Berseria is fantastic even though all I saw on release was it getting shit on.
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>>570947624
When you reach max friendship and become fuckbuddies, he gets his 2nd mystic arte
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>>570949451
just ignore the retard, he's fucking clueless and he keeps being loud
he's a walking dunning kruger
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>>570949664
Berseria has legit bad combat tho, it was saved by its cast.

Oh well, wait for another year I guess.
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>>570949664
pretty sure everyone still thinks berseria combat is trash
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>>570949674
I love these trolls, they have no idea what they are talking about yet they continue to yap.
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Accessory system is a bit of a let down. Still waiting on a gear upgrading system as autistic as Graces F that I can just spend tens of hours on upgrading an absurd weapon
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>>570945726
I just get my ass kicked and spend the whole time reviving everyone who dies in 2 hits even with -50% damage earth damage accessories and wind up with -.88 score.
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>>570949632
The nigger troll is gonna answer it seems, it can't even determine if it likes TP vs CC.

Because both are fundamental different.
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Why isn't there a ton of "Tales of" remasters releasing on shit like the Switch? Wouldn't these games sell like hotcakes? I thought Vesperia did pretty well, why not do more? Are the other releases too niche?
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>>570949632
>Because Abyss and Vesperia use TP and I don't like how they play compared to Destiny CC.
Well yeah, because they use the Symphonia team's arte ladder system instead of the free arte chains of Destiny games, which has literally nothing to do with TP or CC.
Games like Xillia/Xillia 2 or Hearts R have TP and yet the arte chaining is freeform like the CC games, because TP and CC are just resources that can work either way, they mean nothing when it comes to how the game actually plays, especially the post merger games which have always mixed mechanics from the two teams.
>In fact, Destiny DC is closer to this game since it doesn't limit your movement.
Destiny DC has literally nothing in common with Arise outside of AG being a butchered CC system, and Destiny DC is a two axis game too so your movement is even more limited than the 3D games.
Again, with every post you make you show how you talk about games you didn't even see a youtube video of, and for what? Defending this shit game you also didn't play, lmao
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>year of our lord 2000+20+1 and mystic artes still eat any magic you were casting at the time
come on I shouldn't have to disable AI mystic artes in every tales game, we have the technology now dont tell me my rig cant handle retaining the game state at time of MA cast
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>>570950115
>law has used more mystic artes so far than i have as alphen
>ruins some of my flaming edges but my hp stays drained
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>>570950115
It's worse in Arise because they not only are hi-ougi instead of blast calibers, everything is reset to neutral after a hi-ougi, that means if somebody else than you pulls a hi-ougi mid combo you lose all your combo progress.
There's also some cross artes that fuck you over like Alphen+Dohalim because any enemy that survives that is launched up in the air for some reason so you have to wait for them to come down, though I suspect this is completely unintended and the game just respawns all actors in the field with the enemies respawning higher on the Y axis for some reason, because this doesn't happen fo any of the other cross artes, only for Alphen+Dohalim.
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>>570950086
>Well yeah, because they use the Symphonia team's arte ladder system instead of the free arte chains of Destiny games, which has literally nothing to do with TP or CC.
All the 3D games use games which limit your mobility greatly and make you feel like you play a 2D game in a 3D environment.
>Games like Xillia/Xillia 2 or Hearts R have TP and yet the arte chaining is freeform like the CC games, because TP and CC are just resources that can work either way, they mean nothing when it comes to how the game actually plays, especially the post merger games which have always mixed mechanics from the two teams.
I play Berseria and you still need TP in order for the arc to work, it's not like CC.
>Destiny DC has literally nothing in common with Arise outside of AG being a butchered CC system, and Destiny DC is a two axis game too so your movement is even more limited than the 3D games.
So it's literally the CC system since it refills itself, also Destiny DC doesn't feel as limited because it's actually a 2D game, hence like Arise giving 3D movement.
>Again, with every post you make you show how you talk about games you didn't even see a youtube video of, and for what? Defending this shit game you also didn't play, lmao
The more you discuss, the more it shows you have no idea what you are talking about, and why people say Tales has shit combat since it's gone 3D, until Arise comes out.
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The whole scene with Kisara's brother dying was really fucking stupid
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>>570950630
Why?
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>berseria TP
>arise is CC
this fucking faggot doesn't even realize that the AG in arise is a direct copy of berseria's butchered CC
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>>570950675
unga bunga
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>>570950685
I just recheck, you are right.
Berseria indeed uses CC, my mistake.
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>>570950548
I was willing to accept the "sacrifice my life to open the eyes of our Renan lord" melodrama but Kisara flipping her tits because Dohalim wasn't doing it out of kindness but because he didn't wanna hear people screaming and crying was just fucking silly.
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>>570950675
play it to find out schizo
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>>570950791
Nah.
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>>570950870
good i'm still having fun laughing at your cluelessness
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>>570950630
for me it's the 2nd up normal attack with hammer
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>>570948950
early game is all about charge artes holy lance or cross blade
mid game is spamming 2 ag artes and equipping the elemental book to increase damage for said element. air thrust is the best spam because it target locks
end game is spamming divine saber for mobs, shooting star for giants or maelstrom
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Fuck training area and fuck dlcs.
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Graces f remake when?
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>>570950965
Who cares, mistakes are made but I stand by my opinion.

You can always play the mobile games.
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>>570950970
for me it's FREEZING ERUPTION.
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>>570951136
>mistakes where made but i'm pretty sure i'm right
lmao
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>>570950685
This monkey just posts shit about games he didn't even see a youtube video of, just ignore him, he's a literal mental case, he doesn't even play this fucking game
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>>570951256
>pc3 freezing eruption into dash forward jump falling snow into freestyle
take me back
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>>570951317
I do play this game though, along with other Tales games such as Eternia, Abyss, Vesperia and Berseria, and series like DMC, hence the comparison.



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