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>you have to commit almost a full work day at the start of each league to reach the atlas, which is the actual meat of the game
>PER CHARACTER
People defend this.
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>>551152834
The game lost all its soul a long time ago. Only addicts defend this online casino coated as an aRPG.
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Leagues last 3 months. If your time is so precious, use it wisely rather than trying to keep up with people whose job it is to play for 30 hour stretches.
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>New season
>They last half a year
>I eat through them in two weeks
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>>551152834
>you have to commit almost a full work day at the start of each league to reach the atlas
Why does it have to be done so fast? Leagues last 3 to 4 months.
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>almost a full work day
holy shit how fucking horrible at the game are you lmao. lemme guess, you're a shitcrow and play trade too.
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>>551152834
And then when you get there it's just even more work. This game fucking blows now.
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>>551152961
yea we're better off waiting for diablo 4, I'm sure blizzard knows what they're doing this time
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Seasons are lazy and have ruined Arpgs as most developers see it as a must.
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just dont be a wageslave and commit
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never ever gived a fuck about builds or seasons
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i wish they add death physics into this game. everything just feel so floaty.
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>>551154224
My money is with last epoch. D4 might be fun though. I just hope they don't oversimplify the game, like they did with 3. It's too normified and a fucking snoozer.
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It should take like 5-10 hours depending on how slow you are. Anything more than that and you're playing in an insanely slow and inefficient way. The league lasts 3 months though so take your time. I swear most of the playerbase would enjoy themselves more if they stopped trying to play like streamers who obsessively play the game 16+ hours a day. The last 3 leagues, I've had multiple headhunters and finally gave T18 delirious maps a try on a cold BV build and it wasn't enjoyable at all so I won't be doing it this league despite how profitable they can be. Do the shit you want to do and play how you want to play.
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>>551153803
Not wanting to be offensive here, but hc and ssf players are getting cucked out of content on every aspect of the game. Can't run certain map mods without loosing their characters, can't fight bosses they haven't seen on youtube prior, can't run far into delve, can't run any syndicate, can't do unique maps, certainly no hard content. It's the least hardcore or bull thing you could do in this game. All I see from them here is the occasional, "I could literally beat the game within 2 days if it was sc!" but no proof ever. All they do is watch a successful build on youtube and claim that their limp dicked character could totally do this too, but it stays theoretical all the time.
Combine this with their constant state of being triggered, copes and their outbursts here to validate their shit decisions of picking a shit league option. I'd say they certainly are the cucks of video games. Their total population correlates to people being actual cucks in real life too. Again, no offence bra.
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it takes like 4hrs to get to maps faggot
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>>551154483
the only people defending last epoch are retards who think the harvest changes are going to kill the game
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ngl if a bypass/boost-to-atlas was 5 bucks a pop i wouldn't mind
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>>551154619
you spent more time posting this copypasta than you did putting defense on your build. brevity is the soul of wit shitcrow. resurrect in town, try again.
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>>551152834
then don't rush the fucking atlas, also get good you can reach it in 3/4 hours
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>>551154523
I think it is a combination of having to run the acts over and over again, having to set up the atlas, an unnecessarily stretched out marathon to face atlas boss I forgot the name of, and currency being too sparse for casuals or semi-casuals to ever use it for crafting.
In my opinion, their currency system is a failed system, as you will barely ever use it for serious crafting. You are always better off buying from the market and only crafting easy items, but never a chest or weapon. Shit is retarded on so many accounts and Chris vision is a faggot vision. The game is fucked and will never change to a better until Chris is dead or his chinese overlords take completely over.
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>>551152834
>per character
what?
your access to the atlas is the same for all characters on the same league
You can have one character build that works well with shit gear to push the atlas in order to flying-goose your twinked gear characters you use for bossing and whatever straight to endgame
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>>551154721
Lmao, guess you are one of these faggots who got suckered into PoE and can't let go their multiple supporter packs and 40/40 league rewards. The pixels you earned through slave labour are going to digital nirvana one day. lmao @ you cuck!
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>>551152834
>NOOOO WTF I CAN'T JUST BUY MY WAY TO ENDGAME LIKE WOW TFFFFF WTFFF
fuck you
>>551152961
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE GRINDING IN AN ARPG WTF THATS NOT FAAAAAIR
>>551153867
>NOOOOO WTF WHY AM I NOT HAVING FUN THIS IS THE GAMES FAULT NOT A PERSONAL PROBLEM!!!!
>>551154725
>I WISH IT WAS LIKE BASED BLIZZARD AND I COULD JUST PAY TO WIN THATS SO AWESOME I LOVE PAYING MONEY TO NOT PLAY
>>551154852
>WTF WHY DO I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME WHY CAN'T I JUST SKIP IT

every single one of you are the cancer killing video games and should fuck right off. chris wilson is right to shit on absolute retards like you at every turn.
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>>551154725
I would have last year but progressing the atlas is such cancer now that I wouldn't do it even for free.
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>>551155014
You are on full meltdown
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>>551155118
says the whiny faggot crying about playing a free game because its too hard. piss off retard
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>>551155013
le is a shitty boring amateur game that excels at nothing and runs on unity, see you in ultimatum
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>>551155159
pick that transmutation orb up.
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>>551155181
>he picks up transmutes
ok so you are retarded lmao
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I had fun during harvest and ritual. But no fun allowed.
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>>551155159
No-one said it's too hard you illiterate retard.
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>>551155159
This is probably the most faggot fangirl reply I've seen today.
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>>551155014
S N E E D
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ah, of course the thread fills with shitcrows seething they have to play the game. be utterly filtered, smooth brains. go back to d3 where you belong.
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>poe player feels threatened when it is revealed to him that no-one values the time he put in, not even himself
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>>551155360
it doesnt take time if you know what you're doing, why not read a guide champ?
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>>551152834
>People defend this.
what, you want to just do a handful of challenges in 20min and get your endgame set fed to you like diablo?
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>>551155434
If 4-5 hours is a negligible amount of time for you, I already know what kind of life you lead.
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>>551154852
>currency being too sparse for casuals or semi-casuals to ever use it for crafting.
This one just isn't true. The game absolutely shits out currency these days if you just play, plus you can just farm valdo's rest with the harbinger atlas passive and easily fund whatever build you want to play. You don't even need to bother killing Maven or any end game boss really because there's so many different ways to very easily make currency. The problem is that casual players spend more time dicking around than they do playing. Casual players on reddit start a build, then abandon it because they see a youtube guide that kills things on a "budget" so they re-roll then complain when they can't kill all end game content after a day like streamers do. If people focused on building up 1 character from start to finish, they would not only learn more about the game and be faster next time but they would enjoy their time more too.
>You are always better off buying from the market and only crafting easy items
This is really the games biggest problem right now. 99.9% of drops are totally worthless. I think the last good drop I id'd myself was a double stat precision watchers eye that sold for 75ex like 5 leagues ago and T1 health, T1 triple res, 35% ms boots which was easily over 2 years ago. Making a half decent physical weapon yourself isn't that bad but people focus too hard on trying to get a monster 700+ dps 1 hander when they don't need anything remotely close to that to clear all the content.
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>>551155497
you're on 4chan, we are of the same ilk, don't pretend
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>>551155497
nice shit peasant lifestyle if you cant even spend 4 hours on a game you actual slave cog
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>>551154619
>watch short clip of a streamer being asked why he only plays softcore
>says he'll play hardcore for a bit (on his sc acc)
>enters a map boss arena
>"Shit they have [mod]" macro quit alt+f4
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>>551155434
and what about the rest of the three months you waste on this trash every league
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poe is completely bloated garbage and the reliance on trade is absolute shit
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>>551155627
They deliberately design encounters around alt+F4, look at the people defending the game and tell me anyone involve with it in any capacity is sane of mind.
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>>551152834
Oh shit.... i cant
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>>551152834
This idea that you have to get to the endgame to start playing the game is what really ruined this game, same as how it ruins mmos.
The game itself was fun before, not a grind, but they butchered it, powercreeped it, made it so you zoomies can zoomzoom and clear entire screens with one move so you can get there fast fast fast, faster and faster, and now here we are, the game is hollowed out so you can get to the big endgame grind faster.
And even you cunts aren't happy with it.

Fuck you.
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>>551154852
>In my opinion, their currency system is a failed system, as you will barely ever use it for serious crafting.
That's just trade league for you. It's all about chaos per hour, and unless you're good at making top tier items, it's always better for you to buy items with currency instead of crafting them yourself. Try playing SSF, I think it has slowly become the superior game mode for this game even if build possibilities are much more limited.

GGG should be focusing more on SSF because I don't see a way to fix trade in this game, at least for softcore. In hardcore trade works just fine, but the game runs like dog shit so not that many are playing HC anymore.
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>Start league in /vg/ chat
>It's just filled with attention seeking trannies spamming the same unfunny jokes over and over
Should've known better than to go into a /vg/ chat but fucking hell
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>>551155448
They unironically do. This is the sort of cretin gamer that is shitting up every type of video game, and they will stomp and moan and bitch and cry and based chris still tells them nah fuck you. Poe is one of the last big old school gaming experiences left.
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>>551155737
>tfw used to play semi-ssf because my potato took forever to load into their hideouts
It was fun until all of a sudden it started taking so long for regular load screens that I'd time out which reset my progress.
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>>551155949
>mtx-ridden shitshow
>"old school gaming experience"
Delusional cultist.
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>>551155949
POE has already catered plenty to this kind of gamer, it's nothing like it used to be.
It's why they feel so welcome and think all their needs should be met and catered to, because they already have been to some extent.
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>>551152834
it's a game for autists by autists
>>551155014
based
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>>551156265
POE was always funded by mtx, but the gameplay and other elements are by no means "oldschool gaming experience" or as purist as he seems to think they are.
In other words I agree with you, but I think your argument for why he's delusional is shit.
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>>551155875
/vg/ is completely overtaken by closet homos, tranny advocates, streamer attention whoring zoomers, ggg simps, metafags and other mentally ill. There is barely anyone with two braincells left, let alone anyone creating cc for this site.
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>>551156265
>WTF they cant just make money selling mtx that you are in no way forced to use!
Fuck off retard. Oh and inb4
>NOOOO you NEED the stash tabs!
If you're too retarded to know how to make progress ssf then thats your problem, not the games.
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>>551155949
How deep is Chris' cock in your arse, lol. Here's your gamble box reward bro.
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>>551155949
>have no fucking storage at all (unless you shell out for MTX)
He's not wrong, it's pretty oldschool, the only difference is these guys aren't trying to store your stash on 64kb.
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>>551155014
Insanely based. Hit it right on the head.
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>>551156418
>ssf
Mentally ill. You could have said it directly, and we all would have saved time.
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>>551156496
Yup thats what I thought retard. Back to d3 you go. Where you belong.
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>>551152834
>noooo I want my games to not have content
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>>551156559
>noooo i have to trade!!!! I'm too retarded to make progress myself I NEED help!!! I'm not mentally disabled you are!!!
The absolute state of tradecucks
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>>551156584
>Zoom zzzom zzooooom! Diablo3!!111
Lmao kid, you fag probably joined the game two years ago, thinking that you are some tough guy. But actually, you are a disease ridden trannoid, coping with the fact that you slaved away 4k hours to get some shiny pixels.
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>>551152834
>make the most complex arpg of all time
>offer it for free
>update it with new mechanics and expansions every 3 months
>have a trade site linked to the game to make it easy
>have an oceans worth of shit to do in the game
>have an almost infinite amount of viable builds
>still somehow incels find things to cry about
God I hate fucking gamers and what gaming has turned into.
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>ssf
Imagine locking yourself up with the online casino
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>>551156817
Projecting I see. Go on. Back to d3. Bet you'll play shitcore there too. Have fun retard.
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Let this thread be a dire warning of what happens to your brain on PoE.
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>I'm playing PoE, I'm so above anyone else and a big brain. The game is so complex and you should feel ashamed for asking for quality of life features such as vacuuming currency from the ground. It's a tactical decision whether or not you pick up that scrap!!! CHRIS NEVER WRONG HE IS BASED AND MY SURROGATE DADDY! CHRIS!!111
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>Friends insist everyday that I should play PoE
>He's a huge Warframe addict, if that wasn't already giving away anything.
>Try it
>No punch when I'm hitting stuff
>The tree is cool, but is passive only
>"Each season is so different bro!"
>There's just minor changes there and there

I'm convinced people that play that game are under some severe form of the Stockholm Syndrome.
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If you told me back in 2014 "people" would be begging for ggg to turn into d3 I'd have thought you were insane. But look, a whole thread full of them. Disgusting honestly
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>>551157113
Spot on. Couple that with the time they invested to grind for their league rewards, league after league. Then the obscene money they threw on the game to buy their shiny armour for real money. If the game dies, they die with it. They can't let that happen and scream and shout whenever anyone criticises it. The game is filled to the brim with battered wives.
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>>551157113
It's called the passive tree for a reason. All the active changes are on uniques and gems
Each expansion tends to change endgame a good deal, those come once a year. The leagues don't change much usually
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>>551152834
ALT + F4
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>chinese client already has pets that pick up currency for you
>system is literally already built into the game
>won't add it because "muh integrity"
leave it up to the d2jsp retard running the company to keep making these dumbfuck decisions
game still runs like dogshit even on the latest PCs and is optimized like garbage with constant crashes because of their untested new mechanics
instead of fixing issues or adding QOL changes that are badly needed they just slap another useless mechanic that nobody asked for onto the already bloated pile
Heist League was just old haku missions reskinned made into a league and that was somehow acceptable
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Magic Legends was a fresh take on ARPGs. if only it didn't suck shit.
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>>551152834
yes, its fun... nex thread!
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>>551157701
Apparently the pet is shit at looting, but China has a bunch of other shit like that to make the game easier
Even though I liked Ritual league a lot, I was getting double digit numbers of crashes every day for the first week, it was nearly unplayable until they fixed it. Trade API was also down for days at a time so everyone was playing SSF for a while.
Most people don't like Heist so I don't know where you're getting this acceptable thing from.
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>>551157418
>All the active changes are on uniques and gems
Ascending too and there's a handful of major build changes on the passive tree (like CI).
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>>551158015
>Apparently the pet is shit at looting
It is. If you're playing at a normal speed, the pet has to literally run over currency to pick it up. Otherwise you're standing still as it slowly goes from item to item. It also can't pick up all item types.
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>>551152834
i hate the grind in this game. i want to play solo and fucking find stuff i can use and make me hard. instead you grind fucking XYZ currency and buy your gear from other player. and people complained about D3 auction house. fuck this game
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>>551152834
PoE is a job for NEETs.
I prefer playing ARPG games.
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>>551152834
>PER CHARACTER
I mean, this is the only bad part.
>you have to commit almost a full work day at the start of each league to reach the atlas, which is the actual meat of the game
This is exactly what keeps a new league fresh, even if the mechanic itself sucks. The race. The rush. You need to work for your fun! And the faster you are, the bigger rewards you can reap by manipulating the fresh economy. Most people don't even reach the endgame in 8 hours.

Literally all PoE needs, is to make the campaign shit account+league specific. It's completely pointless filler after your first run in the current league.
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>Fun gameplay
>Fun loot hunt
>Cool world
Why doesn't game exist bros...
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>>551160048
>i want to play solo and fucking find stuff i can use and make me hard
So play SSF then? People crush the game in a week on SSF.
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>>551152961
This, the games a bloated mess that only its autistic die hard fan base still give a shit about.
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>>551160174
Any recommendations which strip away the bullshit PoE has? I'm toying with Killsquad, but it's in early access and nobody here plays or buys games.
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>>551155014
>>NOOOO WTF I CAN'T JUST BUY MY WAY TO ENDGAME LIKE WOW TFFFFF WTFFF
>he doesnt know about Chris' RMT shops where you can buy headhunter for few bucks
hello newfag
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What do you expect from the most overrated genre
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>>551152961
Now it's just a ching chong gacha game where you cum over the whole screen and everything dies
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there are plenty of baby arpgs for you on the market
you don't get to show up in this one and demand stuff
fuck right off
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>>551152961
this
the game blows
its janky, buggy, runs like shit, multiplayer sucks unless you get proper mates and even then it sucks because the loot is shared, drop in drop out type gameplay gets you nowhere cause this game is riddled with bloat and everything takes forever so you must play it like it is your job, the forced campaign sucks, shitty forced hub areas that lag because all the mtx paypigs camp there, economy sucks because its riddled with flippers and manipulators and botters and forces you to use 3rd party tools to make trades efficiently

then last but not least there's the issue of fake possibility in variation.
people say this game is some hyper advanced 300IQ build maker simulator
but in reality you link damage boosters with you main dps skill gem and pick the health+ and dmage+ nodes from the skill tree.
its quite literally the same as diablo 3 paragon skill window its just disguised well to look like its something else

these games cause stockholm syndrome within its players and POE has got it the worst
these idiots will defend it cause they wasted so much time on their gambling simulator and hate to see their time being devaluated so.
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>reddit spacing
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>>551162792
nu-fag

>>551162078
Spot on, and hyper spastics will kick and scream when this gets pointed out.
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DO NOT PLAY THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME
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>>551152834
maybe if u're bad, and I'm not even that fast
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>>551152961
This. One of my friends does nothing but play this game 24/7. He has like 8,000 fucking hours in the game.
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>>551162792
>cope seethe etc
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>>551163015
seething redditors lmao
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the guy seething over grim dawn and other arpgs is ashur, The only game he plays is poe and he is unironically 1 hour a week tier. He is very antagonistic to other games in the genre because he is scared of losing the one game he plays.
ashur might actually be the biggest faggot i've ever seen in this game, he surpasses most redditoids in sheer retardation and pretentious narcissism. he doesn't even have opinions other than
>durrr no 1 posting webms or memes reeeee
reminder
>he ripped 18 uber elder portals in a row
>he linked ed to gmp
>he plays softcore trade
>he lists items for 1 regret orb
>he has NEVER posted a pob itt
>he has sexual fantasies about sirus
>he is reviled in multiple games forums for being a faggot
>he has his profile private because he's a coward
>he refuses to trip but still id's himself for attention anyways
>he has intense paranoia and assumes everyone is a russian or a bot
>he only started playing in delirium at the earliest and has never made it to maps in HC
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>>551162078
post a build you've made
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>>551157113
The fun part is making your own builds and tweeking them.
Sane people play like 1 character per league and take the entire league to enjoy it.
Then there is the people who have left all sanity behind and grind multiple characters per league over and over again
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>>551163202
>spamming this every thread, even /v/
imagine being so mentally ill and obsessed with a literal nobody lol
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Lads trying to get into Grim Dawn but I keep just getting bored and rolling alts. Didn't even have this problem with base Titan Quest, the skills in GD just have no impact

Are there any actual fun builds/skills in this game?
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>ashur_hawke
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551155014
stfu ashur
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>>551163534
>making up fake screenshots to ruin a literal whos reputation on 4chan
>spamming it in every path of exile thread
meds
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seethe
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>>551163757
what's the matter did he deny your faggot love or something?
Why are you acting like a bitch obsessed with her ex?
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>what's the matter did he deny your faggot love or something?
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>>551152834
yeah ok but listen i don't want ot play poe
i want to play poe 2 whens it come out
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>>551163527
no, its called grim yawn for a reason
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>>551163875
>>551163704
>>551163460
hi ashur
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>>>/wsg/3865127
meds schizo
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>>551164163
hi nigger
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>>551163527
Don't bother, Grim Dawn is pure dogshit
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>>551154224
d4 has a better chance of being good than poe ever does again
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>>551164163
>everybody is him
hahah obsessed
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This game is still alive? Shouldn't they make PoE 2 or something already?
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seethe ashur you little bitch
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>>551164163
does anyone have pics of ashurs penis?
>>551164385
its delayed until 2022 unironically
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Ashur there are anime posts in /poeg/ go report them lmao oh and they're talking about streamers btw
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>>551164385
still growing
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>>551152834
>Oh noe 8 hours of gameplay
?????
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I hate when I have to play the game
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>>551164163
who is ashur
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>>551164163
>>551164414
>>551164483
you're obsessed with my cock, faggot
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>>551164524
guy who's been spamming webms on /poeg/ and /v/ since delirium
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>>551152834
>per character

False, that time investment is only for the first character of the league, every other character after that can hit endgame in a few hours.
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>>551152834
I uninstalled the game after losing 3 hours of progress to a one shot during a stutter. I played the game for many years, but i realized i was over it. I'll come back for PoE 2, since mtx transfers.
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>>551163186
Why do summer folk get this mad when outed.
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>>551152834
>you have to commit almost a full work day at the start of each league to reach the atlas, which is the actual meat of the game

mate you know you can just stop playing right? you don't have to play continuously
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>>551155434
>you're a chump if you don't let others dictate your experience
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>>551164796
keep seething redditor
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Pre atlas is the best part of the game though? Mapping is boring as fuck unless you're a turbo autist.
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>>551164796
projection!
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>>551163202
the guy strawmanning over ashur is a delusional grim dawn spammer who spams the same posts every day, often samefagging and pretending to be other people who took his recommendation to play the game. He is very antagonistic to other games in the genre because he is scared of losing the one game he plays.
he might actually be the biggest faggot i've ever seen on 4chan, he surpasses most redditoids in sheer retardation and obnoxious autism, he doesnt even have opnions other than
>durrrr grim yawn d2 mod good
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>>551164921
based
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>>551164881
This. Actually progressing the atlas is a chore, unique maps hardly ever drop, and map mechanics you do want take forever to appear. Looking at you, delirium.
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>>551164959
>ants post
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>>551164921
My fucking sides dude. I'm the gd spammer, but I don't know who ashur is or care about him. Making me into a legend feels good in a way.
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>>551165060
im the gd spammer and ashur
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>>551152834
That is actually the reason I don't play anymore: it's the one game that I really hate the leveling in.
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>>551165060
>literally mentions grim dawn specifically in the post
no one cares about that game except for you lmao
stupid fuck
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>Have to press 1-5 every 5 seconds entire time you're playing this game
Honestly fuck flasks holy shit
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>>551152834
I won't because I recognize that not everyone is as autistic as me.
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>>551165196
use macro
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>>551164921
Grim dawn was absolutely easy as shit and the game was pretty on rails in terms of build as all you really needed were stats boosts

I played the van hellsing guy with gun+lightning and just rolled through the entire game

I was barely engaged the whole way through
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>Gets bought out by tencent
>loses all its soul
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>>551165245
What did you just say? That's it another melee unfriendly league.
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reminder that its the russians from 2ch who post lily and ashur shit
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>>551165330
examples?
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>>551152834
>New to Diablo like games
>Try this
>Enjoy it
>Now have to look up builds so I don't keep dying
>Hate it
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>>551165421
>Pick nodes that give life
>Get a few that give damage
Congratulations
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>>551165349
melee is busted op currently
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>>551165542
I haven't actually played in years
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>>551165323
Vanilla is pretty boring. Try some mods, specifically the diablo 2 remaster mod. It's significantly harder.
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>blade vortex
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>>551165504
post the build
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PoE is just tedious
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play last epoch
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For me? None other than frostbolt ice nova.
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>>551165705
I will as soon as they add multiplayer.
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>>551152834
What are you fucking casual? Have to work? To bad, pleb. Unlike you, successful streamer such as myself has no problem playing this game 48h in row on league start. Its not a promotion of harmful life style in any way. Dont like being fucked fucked in the ass go play baby games like D3 and grim dawn. Dont forget to sub, nord vpn code raizqt.
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>>551165913
good man
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>>551165705
Grim dawn's diablo 2 remaster mod is ten times better than any other arpg on the market right now. Don't take my word for it. JUST TRY IT OUT.
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>grim yawn
>haha im so funny hahah haa
>I have no idea how the mod plays, btw. I'm just parroting what kripp said 7 years ago
The absolute state of poecels.
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>>551155210
need them scrolls
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Last Epoch
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>>551152834
tranny game
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Diablo 2 sucks dick. Such a boring fucking dated game.
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>>551155735
the screen has to explode in a second or you would realize how bad the core gameplay actually is
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>>551154725
If you're willing to pay to not play the game, reconsider how you spend your time.
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>>551168825
theres only one, every single grim dawn post you see is by him
hes completely obsessed
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>>551169002
its ashur look
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Lmao get banned Ashur, now go back to /poeg/ and cry about jannies.
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>>551166964
Can you play that online?
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yep he's mad
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>>551169378
so this confirms that the anti grim dawn poster is not ashur?
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>>551169378
i m the tft mod and you still haven't doxxed me yet
lmao
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>>551169548
It doesn't matter cause Hobbits Linkedin and Facebook got leaked.
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>>551169532
it confirms that ashur is samefagging
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>>551163106
>arc miner bragging about run time
you do realize ggg deliberately puts in blatantly superior shit like that just so retards like you can think they're good right?
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>u mad
9gag tier banter
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>>551169532
He could be you, he could be me, he could even be-
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>>551169767
all me
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I played arpgs for 15k+ hours. I've played everything. From diablo 2, diablo 3 to torchlight 2, grim dawn, poe etc.
I played poe for 5k+hours. Out of all the games I listed, poe is the only game that leaves me a sour taste when I'm done playing a league / whatever because I'm reminded how utterly imbalanced and how fucked up the progression is. I always remember fondly of diablo 2 because it was such a simple, yet complex and fun game. Same goes with torchlight 2, despite its flaws it was a fun pickup. Grim dawn is not bad either and the possibilities are endless with the mods. Path of exile? I'm gonna admit delirium league was fun, but it was the biggest mistake that ever happened because it highlighted how imbalanced the ascendancies/builds/skill gems truly are. I only enjoyed that league because I rmt-ed and made a lot of money, because I was playing on like 2-5 fps in delirious maps (and still do) and even if I managed to level up in those maps, literal 3 second freezes from explodey chest would kill me. Why are some skill gems so bad? And more importantly, why are some retarded faggots here ok with that? Saying that not all skill gems should be as powerful. Why? It's not even about fun because some bad skill gems are ass to play with and/or feel clumsy as fuck. Why is this game still balanced around logout macro? That's one of the worst game philosophies I have heard in my entire life. Why don't they get rid of the instant logout and balance the game properly? Hell, 5 seconds is enough. Diablo 3 had an entire minute between getting disconnected and your character logging out. I died twice on hardcore back in vanilla, but I still had fun.
And there's those autists. Those unfuckable virgins whose lives revolve around this game and it became like a cult to them to the point that they can't see any flaw in the game. They're the hamsters. The whales. The gold mine Chris got rich off.
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>everything must be oneshot or you get oneshot
>the 'if you're not clearing maps in 40 seconds your build is SHIT' attitude still pervades
>terrible balance between literally every comparable thing
>old content still left in the dust
>nothing will be fixed next league
Don't forget to buy another small indie supporter pack while you're waiting for PoE2.
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>>551169837
nice copypasta ashur
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>>551169532
Ashur is a made up character by schizo or someone falseflagging as him, he needs to go back to his roots and fuck with those 1488 redditors
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>not a single interesting boss until you've cleared all 16 map tiers

This is the dumb part. I just have no motivation to map for a thousand hours to see anything interesting.
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>>551169887
>Don't forget to buy another small indie supporter pack while you're waiting for PoE2.
Daily reminder that poe 2 will fix absolutely nothing and will probably release in such a buggy state that the backlash will be so huge it will literally bankrupt ggg.
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>>551170010
>reddit spacing
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>>551170056
Doesn't matter, it's already made its money back and it's not even been released yet.
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>>551152834
I tried it about 2-3 weeks for the first time ever. Really fun at first. Then you realize, Wow none of this loot is remotely useful. Then you realize the optimization is fucking ASS and the frame rate issues get worse every act. Then you realize what OP is talking about and you grind this shit out, repeating the same quests, same dialogue, same maps, every season.
Don't get me wrong, I still think it's "fun" making the builds and the sheer autism that went into the skill trees and figruing it all out. Clearly there's depth to some of the game mechanics, but overall this game reminds me of the manipulative and addictive nature of early MMOs.
>>551152961
Everyone in global bantz seemed like a hardcore game addict to me. It reminded me of the Warrens filled with teenagers in WoW years ago.
>>551153034
Pretty much how I chose to play. I like the game, but its deeply deeply flawed and the engine is absolute DOG SHIT for an 8 year old game.
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>>551169975
hi ashur
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this dude is a reminder that schizo is powerless
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>>551170279
give me a quick rundown
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>>551170279
schizobros it's over, he won
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>>551169837
Galaxy brain

>>551169910
pea brain
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>>551154483
Hey, I've been thinking about Last Epoch. Can you recommend it or offer any insight that isn't some huehuehue review that I see on Steam like "New Diablo looks awesome."
I keep thinking about picking it up and see it mentioned a lot on here. Plus the idea of playing something NEW versus PoE where it's jaded people from the last several years who play more out of addiction and sunk cost fallacy. I really liked PoE the past 2-3 weeks I've been playing it, but the game runs like absolute trash on my laptop.
Appreciate whatever ya have to share on LE.
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>>551165384
League of legends
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at this point I can't wait to try Diablo Immortal just for the memes
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>>551170318
>schizo makes a collage of redditors crying about harvest manifesto
>finds out one guy is a botter
>calls him out on reddit
>he deletes his bot related accounts and posts
>he requests account name change from GGG cause he kept getting harassed
>1 month later
>still not banned
this is the guy who defeated schizo
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>>551170412
Haven't bought it myself yet, but it looks like it has the soul of early PoE. People describe it as slower, but that's honestly a massive plus in my book. Going to buy it sooner or later anyway.
Other titles on my list are Killsquad and Hammerwatch.
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>>551170785
He also deleted all of his reddit comments
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>>551152834
No wonder everyone who plays this is a neet.
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>>551170785
>>551170867
autism
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>>551152834
Unballanced meta-ridden feature-bloated pig carcass.
Pic related.
/thread
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This isn't a game anymore. It's not ever meant to reach an ideal state. It's now nothing more than a constant stream of revenue.
I always had this idea in my head there was some kind of endpoint they're trying to balance towards. I always had this thought in my mind like 'hey this one thing is pretty shit and this new skill is kinda OP, but they're constantly updating the game so they'll patch it'.
Looking back, I was completely wrong. There is no finish line. Just like WoW, this fucking game is and always will be in a perpetual state of reshuffling.
They will never try to address any of its issues again.
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>>551170867
Based phelon, I hope that he will leak the schizo's dox soon.
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>>551153691
>Why does it have to be done so fast?
Some people do racing. Others try to gain economic advantage and a few days later to crash the whole trade economy to hell.
And then there is RNG in challenges that unless you have bots and minions (irl minions), you have no chance of ever completing in 3 months.

PoE is a gambling game that is rigged against you and unless you engage in your own rigging (bots and minions), you are sooooooo shit out of luck (and enjoyment).
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>>551171160
DixuMixu is not the schizo
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>>551170823
Slower isn't a detractor for me. I feel like the people who play PoE with the map overlaid at light speed are barely even playing the game or taking the time to look at anything or enjoy anything. I think playing games at that speed is borderline autistic. Sometimes I like to just stop and look at the world. I do it all the time in Demon Souls and Nu-Lara games.
I'll check out the others you mentioned. Here let me share some of my own I'm watching too with you:
>Book of Travels, seems comfy and laid back, kind of like Journey
>War Mongrels, the people who made the HATRED edgy meme game, but have finally grown up
>Zenith The Last City, I mostly just follow this to see what VR is bringing to multiplayer type games
Also, have you played Grim Dawn? Is that worth trying out if I like PoE? I heard I need all the expansions to play online, otherwise it will be near impossible to find someone playing on just the base game.
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>>551152834
then go play babby shitter diablo 3. personally I love the fresh league start and it's fun to go through the acts again. you get a little taste of SSF, it's a nice change of pace.
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>>551171483
based
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>>551154523
>It should take like 5-10 hours
>Anything more than that and you're playing in an insanely slow and inefficient way
>anything more and its slow and inefficient
>slow and inefficient
>inefficient
Thats how i know the game is a stale garbage.
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Every single person I know who plays poe nolifes it for 2-3 days straight at the start of each league, drops it, then says the gimmick mechanic was shit
This seems to be the intended way to enjoy the game
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>>551170412
Setting is cool, itemization is fun, crafting is not annoying. The skills are cool and each skill having their own talent tree is great. The enemies and bosses are all fun to fight except for the ones with leap slam cause they have iframes. The defence systems (ward in particular) all manage to feel both interesting and useful. Also I've grown fond of playing it as a roguelite on hardcore masochist mode
However, the game still lacks in content. While 90% of the skills each class can choose from are quite versatile, they still have few skills in comparison to PoE - particularly the Rogue. The endgame is also kinda barebones, consisting only of simple mapping and endless arena waves. It's really just lacking things to play, things to fight and things to work towards
Having said that I do think it's fat enough to already be worth the money, I've gotten my playtime's worth out of it personally. However I'm also looking forward to seeing where it goes in future
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>>551164050
>>551164284
Aw man
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You nerds may have min / maxed your gay characters, but I min / maxed my superior taste.
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>>551153171
>three months is half a year
Are you OK anon
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>game is literally all about minmaxing, grinding, and minmaxing your grinding
>oh don't worry honey you have 3 months so take it slow
>don't worry about being efficient baby it's fine
No
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>>551171456
>Also, have you played Grim Dawn? Is that worth trying out if I like PoE? I heard I need all the expansions to play online, otherwise it will be near impossible to find someone playing on just the base game.
I've been playing gd for a year now. Vanilla is fun, but endgame is not great and itemization is pretty bland. There are some great mods out there that definitely make gd a much better game. I've been playing the d2 remaster mod and it's perfect for my taste.
It's definitely not an online oriented game, but there are discords where you can trade / find people, even for that mod. It's worth trying out if you like any arpg, but it's slower, similar to diablo 2. Not terribly slow like some people make it to be (vanilla is slower than the mod).
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>>551171897
I think you've convinced me to check it out. I kinda figured end game content would be bare bones since its still early access and there's no multiplayer yet. Still, I've heard nothing but positive things about the game and I'm really looking for something **new** to get into. I find myself wanting to play online games, then I look into the majority of what's out there, with a solid player base and a lot of the shit is super old. I've got some Steam Credit on my account for refunding Valheim, I'll check it out.
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>>551172007
>not even a single good game in that 3x3
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>>551172007
>Geometry Wars
Holy Mother of Based. I used to play this game for hours into the night and then by the time I was done I could see the shapes like burned into my eyes. I'd look at the walls, ceiling... I'd close my eyes and nothing but shapes. Fucking loved this game.
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@551172007
nice bait
you didnt get any yous in the faggot 3x3 threads?
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>>551169887
>>everything must be oneshot or you get oneshot
is there any ARPG that doesn't end in this state? feels like every single one will get there if you keep progressing through the difficulty tiers.
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>>551172810
grim yawn and last sleepoch
fighting tanky trash mobs get boring very fast
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>>551172810
In PoE it's just because healing and leech varies massively between builds, so oneshots are the only way to achieve consistent difficulty. Easy enough to imagine an arpg where healing and leech is strictly controlled.
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>>551172921
is it, though? iirc in grim dawn the enemies do get beefier, but you'd still get oneshot.
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>>551172921
>T. Path of Exile Zoomer Streamer who needs it now now now now now fast fast fast FAST FAST
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>>551172235
I dunno how big the playerbase is, but there's usually people mouthing off in global chat when I'm playing so it feels alive. I hope you have fun with it lad
My favourite build I've played so far is Smite + holy Abyssal Echoes Paladin, but Rip Blood + Marrow Shards + Reaper Form on Lich is a solid, easy combo to play with when you're starting out
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>>551169837
Is Torchlight 3 better than 2?
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>>551152834
>>551155014
Based. There are very few games that filter and punish shitters on 4chan as much as PoE, and I couldn't be happier about it.
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>>551173460
at least multiplayer works in 3 unlike in 2 where it desyncs out the ass
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>>551172367
Thats fucking nothing.
>be in 2016
>be playing PoE pretty much every day
>commute to work
>fall asleep and dream of dropping Kaom's Heart or Mirror
>work
>think about playing PoE and making builds
>commute back
>fall asleep
>dream that i 6L a neat 2H for my champ
>wake up
>missed my stop
Those were the days.
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>>551169701
>"if you play a bad skill, you progress through the game slower"
>"eheh checkmate"
?
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>>551163106
>not two bandit passives
ngmi
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>>551174072
>game boils down to picking good skill
>man my effort to get good at this game has really paid off, none of these shitters can compete
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I'm going to play GC mines this league and no one can stop me, not even Chris Wilson!
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>>551174494
basado
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>>551174494
blastchain mine support and high impact mine support have been disabled
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>>551174439
you'll get filtered even with the best skill, shitter
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uh oh, i see hearing the truth has struck a nerve
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>>551168235
stop trying to police how others spend their money fag
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>>551174997
based
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>>551157113
>No punch when I'm hitting stuff
oh please. you never even tried tec slam with fist of war support did you.
miss me with that 30 mins played negative review on steam faglord
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>>551172810
>feels like every single one will get there if you keep progressing through the difficulty tiers.
they need to copy what risk of rain 2 does. every run ends up in that state eventually and enough whining was done.
so they added in 'one shot protection' which still has some caveats to it.
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>>551152834
>starts league
>have fun
>no lag
>second day
>player base peak
>200-5000 average ping
>can only play after midnight
No thank you
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>>551175384
works on my machine
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>>551152961
fpbp, i stopped playing in like 2014 and never looked back
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>>551175384
????
Its typically shit the first few hours of the league and smooth sailing by day 2.
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>>551157113
You're not wrong. I'm gonna finish the acts on my first playthrough and probably not go back. People in global chat have all the classic symptoms of sunk cost fallacy. They hate the game but still play it. If it didn't run like absolute dog shit for an 8 year old game, I'd play it, but there's just more optimized stuff out there that doesnt drop to 5 FPS. This is the common complaint of everyone that the game just cannot run itself.
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>>551176443
This is the most infuriating part of the game to me. It just runs like complete fucking garbage and also looks like garbage the whole time. And the devs either can't fix it, or just cover their eyes and ears and pretend it's fine while everyone bitches about it every single league.
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What's the thinking mans league starter?
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>>551177785
Just copy what the top ssfhc racers start with
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>>551177785
The one you want to play
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>>551152834
It's honestly why I dropped it. And the reason for that to exist is to facilitate the stone age trade system, which is still the "meet me at the tree and exchange items manually" system, in 2021.
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>>551152961
Still the best one out there
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>>551152834
They defend it because they're addicted.
Path of Exile is Cookie Clicker with the Diablo art style.

This is the least videogamey videogame I've played in my life, I've never seen a game ENTIRELY BUILT around getting the player fucked over like this (until Gachas existed recently)
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>>551152961
fpbp.
When the main game designer himself writes he wants the game to be based on gambling addiction rather than finding/crafting gear, there is no turning back.
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>>551170262
>Everyone in global bantz seemed like a hardcore game addict to me.
Yep.
Global 1 is /v/-lite, filled with jaded gamers who put hundreds of hours into PoE.
I have to give them credit, I don't think anyone on /v/ right now has put 100 hours into anything.
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>>551178919
There is no best out there. You can shit on all of them for various reasons.

>>551179063
The biggest problem with this site. People don't play video games and if at all, they stick to the same shit and don't try out anything else.
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>>551179063
>I have to give them credit, I don't think anyone on /v/ right now has put 100 hours into anything.
A mighty brave statement.
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>>551179291
outside of this thread of battered ex-PoE players, yeah
lol
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>>551152834
diablo clone but 10 times more grindy
never liked that shit
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>Leave for 4 hours
>Come back and seethe thread is still up
So many posts from people that can't kill Awakener about how shitty the passive tree is and how every build is the same
Don't you people get bored?
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>>551180519
I just like to fight with blizzbabbies, bro
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>>551155014
Extremely based and yellow pilled
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>>551154483
How will last epoch ever in their lifetime come close to the amount of content PoE has?
Newfags are eternally btfoed due to the sheer bloat after every league.
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>>551169701
If you arent playing 36 hours on release you can buy insane leveling uniques for 1c which would push any shit build into 3h a1-a8 timeframe which takes you 12h to complete.
Gitgud.
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>>551170412
I played it, lvl 97 character and one lvl 81 started playing start of March. It’s good, but lacks the depth after lvl 85 I think when you are at the lvl 95 x 3 crucibles. At that point it starts getting repetitive because your build and gear is done and you’re just fishing for that RNG based T6-T7 mods that are drop only.
I’ve found making an off perfect item in LE to be highly RNG based even though their mid to late crafting is ezmode.
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>>551152834
I can't.
I was always of the opinion that you should only be forced to do acts once per league.
Having to do acts again actively made me quit the league instead of trying new characters.
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>>551178919
More like the only one there.
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Haha, thank you kind white knight. You showed these arpg babbis. Thank you for shielding this online cas- I mean cool and dandy video game. You certainly are my chosen piglet. The big brain among walking wallets. Be my thrall, join the others and write everywhere how much you love me and the game. I'm infallible, and this game is the best video game in your misse- great life. Have one phantasy point as thank you. Buy a loot box and keep on the fight! Grind on!
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>>551181721
Press M to show your support!
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reminder that PoE shits out so much worthless loot that it causes noticeable drops in FPS
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>>551155014
Based except the buy to endgame part. I’ve encountered plenty of RMT buyers day 1 those who can’t come to your hideout because they haven’t unlocked hideouts but miraculously have 10+ exalts to buy your inpulsa and shit day 1.
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>>551181870
only during loot explosions like at the end of blight maps
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>>551181693
Yup it has the network effect I think. I don’t think any arpg can catch up with the amount of content poe has, ever.
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>>551152834
The trick is to not give a shit about endgame and enjoy each character as fresh experience. I haven't once ever looked up a build to follow because it's more fun for me to figure it out on my own. With the amount of options the game has this makes it fun everytime because there are still unknowns for me.
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>>551181721
What's your next move, are you gonna tell me how good d3 is?
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>>551152834
I liked the game, but it has way to much bloat these days.
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>>551181936
Theres difference between rmt being sold by third party and rmt being sold by a very company making the game.
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How to enjoy PoE
>start on league start day, this is essential
>get to maps
>do some maps
>quit the league after a week when economy stabilizes and prices drop
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>>551182197
What if the company supports the third party?
I don't have the Lightning Coil compilation anymore, someone here has to have it
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>>551153034
this. every single complaint i see about PoE sounds like it comes from someone who absolutely MUST top the leaderboards constantly
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>>551154483
Activision will not let them release anything but the most accessible money earner they can
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>>551182291
How to enjoy PoE
>Play a fun build
>Quit when you run out of builds that catch your interest
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>>551182197
I know about the Chris and aiziri foible drama lad, I never said anything about the sellers, just buyers.
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>>551182291
me but i only make it to maps 7/10 times
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>>551181827
Lmao
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>>551177785
some boring cyclone to stop at reds and farm chaos for a real build, idk
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>>551182598
. Chris and aiziri foible drama
tell me more
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>>551154483
last epoch is really bad, it's a grim dawn sidegrade. the story and setting is horrendous, but you can mostly ignore that. the problem is the way they set up the characters and how you build them, everything is inefficient or works poorly together outside of a few abuseable things that will probably get patched out.
nothing feels fun to build, it feels unbalanced in a bad way, like why are skills 8 points for +4% dmg each instead of 5 or 10 when the tree moves in 5 point increments? if you want to use a skill to do something it should probably do, chances are it doesn't do that. want to convert to poison or necrotic? fuck you, 70% of what makes sense to do this with doesn't do it, and the rest does it suboptimally.

it's obviously missing content but what's already there is enough to conclude it's not going to be very good when it's finished either. gearing is also a nightmare, it's like playing ssf and having mandatory uniques for your build, the crafting is annoying, the whole thing just feels like a shittier version of grim dawn.
3/10 do not recommend, not a poe replacement, not the saviour of the arpg genre we need.
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>>551180698
They are the same people, zero game knowledge retards which always follow meta and never think for themselves and then complain how everyone plays same build.
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>>551182783
I don’t have the image archives saved. There was Lightning coil and atziri foible etc drama. Where the devs just spawned the atziri items and sold it before the first confirmed kill by alkaizer in a league.
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>>551183071
Isnt both a random drop and can also be acquired from cards? Or is it drama from early days where drops were different?
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>>551182993
>game knowledge
>duuur I put points in life
>duuuur sometimes I don't put points in life and put them in energy shield instead
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hey gamblers, gook lover here, here's info from chink's ass ascendant got nerfed, patfinder asc only gives 1 flask charge now and you lost chance to not consume charges, added some increased charge gain, jugg got 2 new aspcendancy notables, one is after the can't be slowed shit that gives damage based on debuffs on you (ailments too?) and one after the armor doubling one has something to do with guard skills, also I think they removed one of the endurance charge notables . inquisitor has some change tool of zeal duration is 10 seconds now with nerfed stats.
patfinder nerfed now only gives 2 charges chance to not consume charges changed to not sonsume charges if you haven't used a flask recently.
lots of shit to do with cooldowns and triggers. apparently they standarize how effects that can trigger many times a secodn work, shit like belt charge on crit mod not being cd based but capped with gain up to 10 charges per sec. cwdt has charges that scales with levels and is shared (some shit about metagems), shockwave, boom nova and co gets hereditary effects, a lot of effects get capped, block life gain is 2 a second for rare Decay Ward and bone offring is 5 life gain on hit capped at 10 etc some shit about coc and cwc semantic change making precise attackspeed less autistic
the trailer is basically them jerking off about ground effects becoming core, shit like flowing river beign a ground effect you go trough and get slowed and moved that also affect enemies, thedemo is going up a zig zag river bank that has corpses flowing and getting beached, dynamic ground effect? if you collide with cropse it latches on to yuo, any hit destroys the cropses, boss is some hillok looking furry jumps around the river and throws corpses at you. after boss flood gate opens and isntead of water it's flood of corpses, you walk up corpse hill perma having corpse reattach to you. piety? nah she's a poo with smaller tits but the dick helmet is pretty neat
yeah more aerial ground effects
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>>551183378
They know nothing of the game outside of following build guides thus they spew nonsense like every build is the same while in reality top end players respec and swap gear for every deep delve biome, fuck off.
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4.5 hours
How shit is it going to be?
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>>551152834
I still hate the currency bloat and the fact they said they designed bosses to where alt-f4ing was a valid tactic
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>>551183832
Most certainly a hyper lacklustre league. They already said a month or so ago that this is going to be a micro league. Expect a new mob or alike in maps and that's about it. Some shitty league rewards which hyper addicts will cream their pants about and the shit cycle repeats again.
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>>551183412
>nothing about poison sextant
fake news
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>>551184370
Sucks. I missed ritual because I had no time to play, but it seemed actually fun.
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>>551184505
Ritual league itself is mediocre, but the Maven expansion content is great and made mapping much more enjoyable
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>>551152834
They killed PoE when they killed harvest. Now you either play a boring cheap build or you trade for 100 hours so you can actually make something fun. Fuck GGG
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>>551184668
>made mapping much more enjoyable
How so?
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>>551184505
I've played it for a while. It was alright, but nothing special to be honest. The Maven fights were fun, but the atlas is pure cancer to set up each and every league again. I won't be returning for a while I guess, but will look over it on what it's going to be about tomorrow. Can't stand their shite video reveals where they simply waste anyone's time again by stretching things out.
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>>551184835
Each area has passives that can significantly change what is in the maps
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>>551183342
Yeah its an early days drama
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>>551184740
This is true, PoE was unplayable before Harvest league

Fuck off, you don't need mirror-tier gear to do everything. Harvest was broken.
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>>551184740
I WISH they killed harvest.
I want them to fucking delete it from the game. It's still way too powerful, and every league is going to feel like Harvest-lite from now on because it's so central to gearing.
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>>551185495
You don't understand, sitting in TFT for hours and trying to not get scammed is very fun
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>>551185495
it's funny, people were bitching about how OP harvest was prior to the nerfs, now they're all crying about how crafting is impossible without it. PoE has one of the whiniest fanbases in gaming.

that being said, I agree with you. I'd rather see Harvest get hit hard. I actually think it would be better for the game in the long run.
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>>551185146
Faggots like you have no idea what you are even talking about. Show your mirror tier items you crafted with harvest. If it's that easy, you must have a gorillion in your stash. Oh there is none? Hey wait, come back! Don't run away! Faggots.
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>>551152834
I love poe but I moved to diablo 3 until poe2 is out.
Too much time spent trading. I hate trading.
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>>551185146
Yes, yes it was. It was just a trading simulator and now we're back to that. And it's even worse now thanks to maven. Have fun spending 99% of your play time on trading.
>>551185495
Crafting SHOULD be good instead of being gambling with a 99.9999% chance of running your item and a 0.00001% chance of giving you something you could've bought for cheaper anyway. The one and only way to get gear being trading is beyond retarded.
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>>551185842
How is sitting in TFT buying/selling crafts not a trading simulator? Except it's easier to get scammed so you have to sit there waiting for a brighter green name to pop up with what you want.
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idk bros i've been playing this diablo 2 mod for grim dawn to kill the time, and it's pretty good. might just skip this league to grind this
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Youtube recommended me poe videos from 2011. I kinda miss how the game was then. Just clean up the jank and it'd be decent.
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>>551185735
Sure, you need to start posting yours too though.
Making items like this is tedious as fuck, not hard.
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>>551185842
>Crafting SHOULD be good instead of being gambling with a 99.9999% chance of running your item and a 0.00001% chance of giving you something you could've bought for cheaper anyway.
You do aware that by doing so item values would be driven into the ground and people would quit league day 3 in full mirror gear?
>The one and only way to get gear being trading is beyond retarded.
Wonder how people play ssf then.
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>play for weeks on end, only get like 100c
>autists on vg chat showing their 5k C and 100 exalts
How
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>>551186781
>You do aware that by doing so item values would be driven into the ground and people would quit league day 3 in full mirror gear?
Who gives a shit about the economy?
If those players only played to get themselves geared up instead of you know, playing for the sake of playing the game then there is an issue with the game itself.
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>>551152834
>which is the actual meat of the game
For you maybe, I enjoy leveling.
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>>551186938
Gearing is the game, why else would you play?
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I've been playing Last Epoch lately (which is great by the way), and any time someone even mentions PoE the entire chat goes into a 20 minute rage timer and I swear it's like the funniest shit every time
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>>551152834
If games feel like work to you maybe you should find something else to do.
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>>551187035
Challenges, experimenting with builds...
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>>551185735
Wait a minute, you couldn't have just been a poser talking out his ass, right? People wouldn't lie on /v/ about being better at something than they actually are, right?
I quit before fixing the life
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>>551186092
1. TFT is far less mandatory. Even solo, harvest will give you 10000x better shit than normal "crafting"
2. It's way quicker (no you being a jew and waiting for an underpriced craft doesn't count)
3. You need to do it far less often
I'd much rather spend 5% of my play time in TFT than spend 99% of it on trading.
>>551186781
>noo muh economy
Ah yes the classic tradefag "argument". I don't give a shit about that
>and people would quit league day 3 in full mirror gear?
No they wouldn't. Stop lying through your teeth. Harvest doesn't have this catastrophic impact on retention you pretend it does. Hell it even makes retention better. Making mirror tier items still takes a fuckton of time and effort, with harvest it's "only" dozens or hundreds of exalts instead of dozens of thousands. That's still out of reach for the vast majority of players.
>Wonder how people play ssf then.
By playing the same shitty generic EQ glad for the 1879543095th time in a row. That's not fun.
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bros is the new league going to be good or not? not sure if i feel like playing
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>>551187163
Which you dont need gear for.
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>>551186767
>tedious
This is exactly why anyone shouldn't get mad at harvest crafts. They are fucking cumbersome to execute. People should get mad that harvest crafts are in maps, it slows down your own mapping and party play.
Again, your items must have taken ages to create and are not even mirror tier. So why are you getting mad at harvest crafting producing 'mirror tier items' on a large scale and that it should be deleted. Retarded thinking skills.

I can't show you mine, as I would have to download the patch and I can't be bothered to boot the game at all. Last time playing was ages ago. My crafts were purely to generate chaos orbs, in order to buy items of the market afterwards. I could sell some good cluster jewels for 20 to 50 chaos each. The latter obviously rarer.
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>>551187382
>No they wouldn't.
L M A O
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>Per charachter
>he doesn't make 3 mirros in 3 days and then plays whatever the fuck build he wants

fucking plebs.
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path of exile is a pretty good game
post demigods
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>>551187382
It takes many crafts to get t1 or t2 on a lot of affixes, which you aren't going to get from SSF Harvest usually.
People with more vouches tend to be more expensive. Finding people with brighter green names is all about not getting scammed off a 2ex trade for a 100+ex item.
Crafting some of my items took me 8+ hours of just staring at a Discord screen for 95% of the time. If I wanted to buy something similar on trade I would be done in like thirty seconds.
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>>551187628
Keep lying faggot
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>>551152834
Your 2nd+ character should be able to reach maps in like 3-5 hours depending. Buy a fucking tabula and some leveling uniques, they're dirt cheap.
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>>551152834
this is not the problem, the problem is the front-loaded rush to maps that fucks the whole economy evolve around the unemployed.
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>>551187887
You don't need everything to be tier 1/2 dude what the fuck. And it would take literally trillions to do that with normal crafting. Or hundreds of ex to buy that which would again take hundreds of hours of flipping or playing a boring leaguestarter build.
>Crafting some of my items took me 8+ hours of just staring at a Discord screen for 95% of the time
That's on you for being a jew and only trying to snipe cheap crafts. You could've done it in 2 hours tops of you were willing to buy for normal prices.
>If I wanted to buy something similar on trade I would be done in like thirty seconds.
*not counting the hundreds of hours of flipping or grinding on a boring cheapo build so you can actually have the currency to buy it
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>>551182447
the what? what on earth are you talking about anon, poe's employees don't spawn items and rmt them, they're not integrated with the rmt community at all.
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>>551187527
>Again, your items must have taken ages to create and are not even mirror tier. So why are you getting mad at harvest crafting producing 'mirror tier items' on a large scale and that it should be deleted.
Because Harvest makes creating items way too easy, tedium is not the same as difficulty, and are too strong for the game as it stands.
>not even mirror tier
The helmet is the best Slayer ignite discharge helmet in the game, at least up until a couple of months ago when I quit. I have more mirror tier gear on but I don't see the point in posting it all at this point.
If Harvest wasn't reliant on TFT I wouldn't have as big of a problem with it, but having to use some shitty third party server to buy crafts from RMTers is awful. But if the crafts were orbable and sellable via the trade site they would still get hammered anyway because more people would see how broken the system is.
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>>551183071
slightly misleading here, atziri's foible is just a shitty mana neck
you're referring to atziri's acuity, an extremely busted pair of gloves from back when vaal pact was the meta and when they were inexplicably available for rmt before the first uber atziri had been killed in the league.
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>>551188610
>tedium is not the same as difficulty
Dude what? Old crating is 100 times more tedious that harvest
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>>551187950
What it supposed to prove? Its ftp game with 99.9% playerbase being irrelevant normie faggots like yourself which do not understand simple concepts of item value.
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>>551188610
What the hell is your point then? You seem to not be able to articulate why harvest should be deleted. Or at least I can't make any sense out of you.
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>>551188335
If I didn't want t1/2 I would just buy some shitter item off trade.
>You could've done it in 2 hours tops of you were willing to buy for normal prices.
Yeah, if I wanted to risk getting my items yoinked or fucked up by 0 vouch people with 3 day old Discord accounts. I overpaid for almost all of my crafts by going with high vouch people only because I know people that have gotten scammed in that server.
>*not counting the hundreds of hours of flipping or grinding on a boring cheapo build so you can actually have the currency to buy it
You mean... actually playing the game? Shit.
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>>551189271
That "people would quit league day 3 in full mirror gear" is pure bullshit.
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>>551189372
Harvest should be nerfed because it floods the game with overpowered items and lets RMT faggots print money even easier than they were before. I wouldn't be surprised if Beastcrafting gets hit too.
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i have literally given up on zoomers ever understanding this genre of game. YOU have to THINK for YOURSELF. never ever gonna be appreciated by zoomers. d2r will be shilled as this shittiest game ever as every1 pics sorc and quits after normal diff.
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>>551189447
There are plenty of people with high vouches selling shit when you're not trying to jew people out
>overpaid
Compared to whom? Mr scammer selling augs for 40c? lol
>actually playing the game
Flipping isn't playing the game. And your only other alternative is grinding with a boring leaguestart build for hundreds of hours. I don't know about you, but I don't find the prospect of being forced to play a shit boring build for hundreds of hours so I can play something actually fun after very appealing. Not to mention harvest isn't stopping you from doing that. All it does is add an extra (far less awful) alternative for getting your gear and makes fun builds playable far sooner.
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>>551189856
But from your other post, you traded for crafts to create 'mirror tier' items. That's way beyond the average faggot does let alone gets out of these crafts. You base your idea about the system from an absolute extreme.
No average faggot will ever bother enough to create anything worth talking about. Harvest is a none issue and overblown by autists who drop the game after their 200 hour league marathon, thinking that casuals would do the same.
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>>551189740
It was an answer to hypothetical scenario of making good crafts possible and wildly available.
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>>551190109
>d2r will be shilled as this shittiest game ever
Its (re)made by activision blizzard lol, ofc its gonna be full shit
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>>551190383
No it wasn't. The convo was talking about harvest. And if harvest doesn't fit this supposed hypothetical then why are you crying so hard about it and trying to use that hypothetical as an argument to something that's completely different.
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>>551190307
Shit gets sold immediately, especially if they're high vouch people. I was paying .5-1 ex over the going rate for r/a life to finish my belt because there were multiple other people sniping the cheaper trades no matter what time I tried buying.
I can count the number of times I've flipped on one hand, and the items I was crafting were for my fourth character that league.
>All it does is add an extra (far less awful) alternative
It provides an easy way to get items that break the game.
>>551190347
The average player doesn't even get to maps, certainly not high enough where having anything beyond decent uniques and crappy 4 mod rares means anything. They're not really worth bringing up in this situation.
Harvest was by far the best way to get gear and the reward was too high. Again, the method of acquiring the crafts from a Discord server was a huge problem, and will still stay a problem since it is still possible to deterministically craft some mods still.
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>>551190887
Go back and read post you used meme arrow on again
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>>551189856
Beastcrafting will not get hit at all. It's such a fucking nieche crafting mechanic that like 5% of players utilize. It's fine as it is.
I hope they add more fossils though, I like fossil crafting
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>>551177750
It's hard to care about everyone's complaints when these fools just keep pumping money into microtransactions. People are bitching about the game, while taking out their wallet to buy the GAYEST - I swear, the GAYEST - pixelated armor I have ever seen. I thought the loot from Act 1 looked better than half of the Destiny-looking microtransaction armor I saw. Don't even get me started on the pet bengal tigers and peacocks... People who play this game are like addicts in that they wish they could quit, they have a lot of negative shit to say about it, then they tell you "Well, really you should buy stash tabs.... its on sale a lot in the MTX shop"
>MFW
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>>551177785
>>551177785
Spark Inquisitor on a Templar. I'm having a blast for a first timer.
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>>551184740
every 3 leagues they enable a craft league just wait for your turn craftag
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>>551190347
It does affect average players, though. I remember like 2-3 weeks into last league I went looking for a new physical claw on the trade site. Just out of curiosity I ramped the filter up to 500+ physical dps. To my surprise, the whole screen was flooded with countless results, all sold by the same people who were apparently just pumping them out and selling them as fast as possible. We're talking weapons which would have been considered mirror-worthy, now being mass-produced via harvest crafting, most of them only costing between 25ex-50ex. So yeah, average players probably won't put in the time to learn how to abuse it, but the godlike items that do get created by top 1% autists trickle down to everyone else as they become more and more common.
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>>551195040
That doesn't sound negativ at all
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>>551177785
templar spell totems idk what's good now since I haven't played in like 6 months
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>>551195430
I mean, if making the game easier is your goal, then yeah I guess flooding the game with inexpensive mirror-worthy weapons would be a good thing for you.
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Sad how you can't have any good PoE threads because 99% of the fags in them are always tradecucks.
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>>551195867
25 exalts isn't something you come by in an instant. So harvest is a non issue
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>>551196517
SSF brainlets disgust me.
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>>551192952
>nieche crafting mechanic that like 5% of players utilize
The same argument is said about high-end Harvest, "oh, only the 5% do the crazy things with it, it shouldn't hurt anyone to NERF it". And this is not to say GGG nerfs by any objective metric of player usage. They nerf because they perceive it deserves a nerf, not for any good reason. Your reason why Beastcrafting won't be touched will not protect Harvest and wasn't a justification to protect any other skills: Icestorm/Firestorm ate nerfs despite nobody playing them, Sweep got an AOE nerf despite nobody playing it, Phantasmal Haste, two-handed weapons, you name it.
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>>551196753
>>551196753
T. Tradecuck
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>>551197329
No, my reason that Beast won't be touched is that it isn't gamebreaking in anyway, and certainly not even comparable to Harvest.
Personally I'm fucking happy Harvest got nuked, I like fossil crafting a lot more
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>>551197410
Obviously, you retard.
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>>551155014
>NOOOO WTF I CAN'T JUST BUY MY WAY TO ENDGAME LIKE WOW TFFFFF WTFFF
except people do this every league, pretty much all of the richest players RWT to get a fast headhunter or start their mirror services early
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>SSF/HKEK
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i wish i knew enough casual arpg autists to buy a private league so we could play like a group-ssf.
the lightygaming private league was fun because everyone had knowledge, most of them had SSF experience and some even had HC experience. it was a juicy 200 player private league where you could always ask the other for help.
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>>551196602
if you extrapolate, it also means the ~150c items are worth 20c, the 50c items are worth 1c, and the 10ex items are about 1.5ex.
it just power creeps everyone, so yes, it is an issue.
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This new league better have some more vaal tiddies for me to stare at. It's been like a decade since atziri. I need more red skinned quadra boob dammit
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>>551198970
I can't for the best of all see the issue here. Chris is inflating the monsters damage numbers, autists are handing out items to combat these bullshit numbers for a reasonable price, so you don't need to grind your life away.
Anyone who isn't on the percent is benefiting from good mas produced crafts, unless someone corners the market. Are you one of these fags who want to stretch out the grind for items ad infinitum so nobody except no lifers can have good items at the end of league? If you aren't already playing all by yourself, you definitely would then. It's not like there is much skill involved in this numbers game anyway.
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>>551196602
>25 exalts isn't something you come by in an instant. So harvest is a non issue
25 exalts is a lot more obtainable than 600 (or whatever mirrors are worth). Does it not cross your mind that the game isn't balanced around having a new mirror-tier item every 25 exalts? It's clearly too powerful, and my example shows how it DOES trickle down to the average player, because while 25 exalts probably does take a while for an average player to farm, it's not even close to being unobtainable.
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>>551197575
>Calls someone a retard
>Has 100s of hours in PoE
I think we both know who the retard is here.
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>>551199304
Time to fire up Subverse again.
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>>551196753
Go read a guide and buy some 99th percentile gear for a chaos orb while the SSFchads actually play the game, tradelet.
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>>551199559
subverse has quadra boob?
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>>551199447
So your characters all have 5+ mirror tier items?
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>>551199365
So your whole argument is that the game is too hard anyway, so harvest being overpowered balances it out? Sounds like you're just bitter about the enormous monster damage/HP numbers being inflated, which to be honest, I'm salty about as well. But that's a different argument
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>>551199664
If my character got even ONE mirror-tier item for 25ex, doesn't that prove my point? Also, didn't somebody in this thread already post their godlike harvest items to btfo you the first time? >>551187173 >>551186767
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>>551199850
That hasn't ever been the point at all and never the starter of the discussion why faggots are butt mad about harvest crafts. I don't get it why faggots wet their pants about harvest craft, when it is literally a non issue.
The goal post has been moved so many times that I don't see a point in talking about it any more.
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>>551199467
Thousands, actually
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>>551200078
So you want the carrot on a stick until you die. This game is already cock tease:the game, which never delivers. And you want it to get even worse. What the hell honestly. Do you have an unfulfilled life which you need a fulltime grinding experience distraction from?
Casuals will barely ever get anything worth speaking of from harvest crafts. And only because one faggot creating good crafts, won't make harvest crafts strong. The 'one is all' thinking is retardation of the highest level.
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>>551200126
>I don't get it why faggots wet their pants about harvest craft, when it is literally a non issue.
if you were literate and actually read the posts directed at you then you would understand just fine though

>the game isn't balanced around having a new mirror-tier item every 25 exalts
respond to this without shifting goalposts
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>>551155689
do they still balance the market/loot around niggas whispering you "Hi, I'd like to purchase your gay shit from storage 5, slot 1"
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>>551200475
as stated, you can get one for 25ex, actually. also your argument has shifted from harvest being fine to "well ok, maybe it is overpowered but the game is too grindy anyway". fuck off.
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>>551200475
>>551200631
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>>551200482
>Starting post Harvest must be deleted because of all the mirror tier items flooding the market!
>Show your masses of items.
>Two items from one guy who is well above the average faggots, trading for his crafts and putting a tremendous time into most likely
Ok until here, but then it shifted to
>One autist can mass produce items, therefore everyone has these items!!
Which isn't true
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>>551200420
Damn it Ricky....
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I'm glad Chris Wilsonfromgrindinggeargames is a HCSSFchad so the masses of tradeshitters aren't able to ruin the game for the real players.
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>>551200737
Here you go:
>the game isn't balanced around having a new mirror-tier item every 25 exalts
That is my ONLY argument, and has been the ENTIRE time. Respond to it.
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>>551200723
Delete this!!

>>551200631
Your opinion is gay, choke on it.
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>>551200723
Lolled out loud.
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if your ARPG isn't balanced around SSF then its fucking garbage
there, i said it
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>>551156889
does ssf at least boost curreny drops?
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>>551201067
The game isn't balanced around currency
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>>551172007
>Taboo
holyshit my dude
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>>551201397
>the game isn't balanced around acquiring powerful items
....what? are you an actual retard?
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>>551201337
you can opt out at any time, so of course not
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>>551201337
nope. drops are just as shit as normal.
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POE is in such a weird spot right now. Ritual was legit a great league but bringing Harvest back at full strength and effectively taking it away is putting the game at such a crossroads. I honestly can't say how I personally feel about that whole thing even, game is being pulled in two different directions and I don't think either side is wrong.
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>people are upset that you need to play for 100000 hours
>in an ARPG games
>from GRINDING Gears Game
>a game DESIGNED for the grind
you are literally playing this to grind, what the fuck do you want?
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>>551202028
both sides are wrong, they should never have done harvest in the first place. even when they were developing it they knew it was a bad idea, they just don't care.

the correct solution is to ignore harvest entirely, just play the game as if it didn't exist, enjoy the fact that all these powerful rare items are cheaper and more accessible and pretend they're not being printed by some broken obligatory bullshit that the 1%ers are abusing the shit out of.
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>>551202082
>people play for the grind
>not to find obscure combinations of meme skills and uniques that send your DPS to shapers per second
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>>551152834
Any sory of mult9iplayer RPG sans Souls-games turns into a skinner box.
MMOrpgs and this sort of aRPG is exactly the same thing. It's garbage, grindy, RNG bullshit for idiots with poor self-control. The entire genres should be regulated out of existence.
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>>551202082
The game isn't sticking to its principles from back then any more. And partially also eradicated or made it worse to play in groups. This shit game turned into a solo hamster wheel online casino over time. It barely resembles what it used to be. So I can understand why people are aggressive over it, or have conflicting ideas on what it should be, when the game used to look and play entirely different back then.
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>>551202295
>>not to find obscure combinations of meme skills and uniques that send your DPS to shapers per second
that's pob
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path of SEXile
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>ITT: Slavs absolutely anally devastated they got banned for RMT
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Closed beta player here, played every league:
Clearspeed meta is too much
Too much shit on screen
Performance is shit
Too much league bloat
Too much micromanaging (has gotten better)
Maven is kinda bullshit
Loot is almost always worse than just buying
Too much junk loot
Leveling sucks
Too much powercreep
I hate flask reliance
BUT
Still best and most exciting arpg out there
I have zero hope in d4
They are going to soft-reset/fix most mechanics with poe "2"
That said, new mechanics may suck
People who complain about time investment need to stop comparing themselves to 0.1%. OR just play standard and be one league behind and enjoy yourself.
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>>551204087
I like how every fucking patch the performance of the game gets arguably worse
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>d2r is amazing
clocks ticking poecucks
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>>551204317
thats because Christ is making us mine ethereum is pretty obv
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>>551204317
I recently got a new pc and I'm actually shocked that my screen doesn't freeze when I encounter a pack of Harbinger or Perandus mob. I have never seen such performance before. What kind of fucking pc do the dev have man. I've played this game since closed beta like the poster above and it's the first time that I can actually play it properly (well, just wait till next league where we'll get some random crash/texture bugs and whatnot).
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>>551204549
The best time I ever got was when my drivers crashed and rebooted and all the games textures were sent to the shitty inspection-playdough textures, and all the MTX shit was turned off
never have I had a smoother experience playing PoE, no freezing on huge pack spawns, or on special effects
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>>551204401
How many years now have you been telling PoE players that the clock is ticking? Cause it's certainly been at least 3.
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>>551203947
RMTers never get banned tho
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>>551204401
wait, really? All I saw was some shit 'new look'. I still play D2 now and then and love the old look. What's actually good about the remake, better online support I presume?
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So it the new shit revealed yet?
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>>551178919
Grim Dawn is better
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>>551204317
Ritual was arguably their worst launch yet and contains frame dips that straight up crash people's games (Valdo's harbingers mainly)
It's still fun at least but holy fuck the technical side of this game is a mess
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>>551209173
15 minutes until the stream starts
Hopefully more than two new skills holy shit Chris
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So how bad PoE2 going to flop?
Any news about it anyway?
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>>551209706
Can't flop if it never releases.
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>>551209706
We're getting news about PoE2 with the announcement of the new league. In 11 minutes.
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Oh wow spears
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Ultimatum league next Friday. I'm glad they're doing shorter hype seasons now, fuck waiting 2-3 weeks.
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Imagine performance of PoE2 with grass and such graphics LMAO
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>flast system is still in PoE2
FUCKING NIGGERS
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>>551155014
>sunken cost pleb defending a cookie clicker game
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This PoE2 gameplay looks good. If it not turns into ADHD shit fest like PoE in endgame
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Hope we can turn off
>ARMOR PIERCING BOLT
>INCENDIARY BOLT
spam
Holy fuck I'm already annoyed by it
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>entire thing is chris just saying look how pretty our game is now
KEK
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>>551211705
just take the flaskmacro pill
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Based. We're metroidvania now.
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I'm not even watching.
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>javazon added to poe
holy fuckingbased been waiting years to play some updated lightning fury
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>still "spam one skill"
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>no PoE2 this year
OH NO NO NO
>ultimate PoE
the fuck?
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>dps so low basically healing the boss
great new game
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>everything reworked
the fuck is this
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Wait, did anything other than gems change? That's the only difference I noticed (and it's a fantastic one).
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When will ARPGS evolve to better combat? It just gets old after a while zooming around the map pressing your 1 skill. I do like the slower pace of PoE2 but the combat looks kinda boring.
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>>551154224
why not diablo 2 remastered instead?
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>HH now droppable in base game
What the actual fuck
>Reliquaries again
Oh shit
>THEY CAN DROP ETERNAL ORBS
FUCK
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>>551214197
>I do like the slower pace of PoE2 but the combat looks kinda boring.
With so many 6L I'm sure it will be fun.
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>>551214345
Don't forget they're still violently raping Harvest crafting.
>No Remove X add X crafts at all
>Can't use most crafts on Influenced bases
>All plants have a chance to not give a craft
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>>551214376
Don't forget, you'll still have to actually 6L your Gems using (whatever the fuck the new currency is).
It'll be easier to 6L a Gem than it is to get a 6L Body/weapon currently, but you'll also be expected to have quite a few 6L in PoE2, not just 1-2.
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Where were you when GOD Wilson killed D2R in the womb? New league looks amazing, they're reoworking every old league and the new league looks good too
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OH NO NO NO DELVEKEKS
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>Fluidity of animations
my fucking dick
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>>551214613
just buy influence beasts, retard
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Cringe if it's not last league.
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league looks like boring shit, but if the reward rework turns out ok nobody ought to care. doesnt look like trash loot is stopping tho.
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>>551213990
basically everything got its rewards improved. Base drops, league content, and stuff like Temple and lab.
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So PoE is fucked until they drop PoE2.
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>>551216197
I mean Poe2
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PoE 2 and Ultimatum look awesome
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>>551163139
Mad because he's found something he enjoys while you run around shoveling shit into your mouth seeking your next high.
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>>551216263
oh right. yeah active gems are basically socketed into your gear, then supports are socketed into the active skill gem. I think their idea is that you'll have a few clear skills and a few single target skills and then stuff for mobility and auras and stuff

they mostly showcased the new weapon types (crossbows and spears)
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I enjoy the game's economy every league. I probably wouldn't play without that
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FUCK YOU
>PoE2 will be officially fast as PoE
FUCK YOU
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>>551216938
stay mad, learn2zoom
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>>551216938
>10 active skill slots
>with 5 support each
we're going to zoom at a speed not seen before.
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>WEIGHT
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>nerfing talismans back down
Did they really become strong after the random annoint and better rolls?
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>>551222268
They were pretty fucking good.
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>>551222268
>>551222903
They were good at a medium level. At super high levels +gem level amulets will always be better
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>>551222268
For basic stuff they were good, it was pretty easy to buy a decent one with life, resists and a good expensive anoint for like 2c to last until you get your endgame one since they mostly rotted in dump tabs since nobody traded for them.
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>globe girls are gone again
It's shit
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>>551222268
>Roll a talisman
>T1 Life, T1 Res and some decent stats
>Shit passive
>nvm i can reroll the passive with tainted oil and now i have a GG talisman

that's why, i guess.
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>>551209706
who is this semeness?
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>>551225343
That's a good point, if they wanted to make the anoint rollable i guess they had to tone them down
Still feels weird.
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The real indefensible shit is the game has a damn console port but the PC version doesn't have gamepad support. plz Chris my wrists
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>>551225592
talismans were amazing in ssf as well if you had enough stats for your build. which is funny because ppl usually gets their stat requirements from amulets and rings if they're too high.
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>>551164334
imagine being this retarded piece of shit
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>>551164334
>d4 has a better chance of being good than poe ever does again
I wish this was true
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>>551167528
what for fucking retard lmao, just do the unid chaos recipe
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I'd play POE if Duelist and his ascendancies werent fucking bottom tier every league
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>Spears
>Crossbows
>On top of the Shapeshifting we've seen
I am ready for 2025
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>>551216938
Real cool to waste 30 minutes of my time with gameplay that isnt how the game actually will play



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