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>https://www.gog.com/game/the_legend_of_heroes_trails_of_cold_steel_iv
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1198090/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_of_Cold_Steel_IV/
>https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iv-switch/
Tomorrow™ is our day Hahachads.
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Where can I get pic related in 7XL?
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>>551144469
I don't think that's going to look as good in 7XL anon. Fucking lol, develop anorexia fatass.
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>>551144410
I'll be 100% honest, it'll be a shitshow. NISA is famous for low prints, even for PS4 in 2019-2021, so you'll most likely see this sold out everywhere before the complaints come rolling in.
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>>551145436
Way to not get the joke at all.
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weebshit
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>>551144410
>Tomorrow
Are you third-world?
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TRAILS OF HAHA
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Just out of curiosity, are the original 3 Cold Steel games available for Switch? I think I'd be pretty pissed if I didn't get to carry my waifu-choice over from 1-2 and 3-4.
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>>551149570
Scandi.
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>>551150406
Nope

In English only 3 and (soon to be) 4 are out

1 + 2 will come out on the Switch in like China or Korea or something, 3 + 4 are already out in Japan

Zero is out in JP on Switch, Ao to come soon

> I think I'd be pretty pissed if I didn't get to carry my waifu-choice over from 1-2 and 3-4.

Don't think anything carries over from 2 > 3 anyway be pissed regardless lol
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Looks gay.
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>>551151270
So, yes, then.
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>>551150406
There's no carry over and your level starts from 1.
This is despite the story not making sense if you start from 3.
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looks gay
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>>551153023
That's the irony, it kinda is.
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Nice, cant wait to finally play this to release around 70gbs from the HDD of pure unfiltered Haha
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Post Altina.
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>>551144410
>Hahachads
>chad
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S E X
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>>551144410
posting link to store.. stop shilling you nigger faggot ... also i buy one of your copy
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>PC
>Switch
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My wife Altina is so cute!
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>>551144410
As much as I want to meet my boob party again, I'm currently playing 2 other games.
Am I limited to new Class 7 at the start like in Cold Steel 3?
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>>551161323
>game gets second life because of pc release
yea I wonder
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>cold steel
Fuck what a name to go with.
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>>551146171
>NISA is famous for low prints
That's why I preordered the switch version, Gamestop told me that they only have 4 in stock for tomorrow.
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>>551163486
>not keeping your steel in the fridge
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>>551144410
This is a legitimate question; what's the appeal of this series? I see a lot of mixed opinions, but people seem to either passionately love this series or find it boring. Is the story interesting enough to get invested in, or is this a series like Dragon Quest where people like it for being 200 hour traditional RPG's?
I've been eying this for a while
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>>551144410
demo when
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>>551160213
help yourself
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>recommend Trails to my brother
>tell him he should play Sky 1 first
>he starts playing CS1 instead of Sky 1
>complains about not knowing who the red-haired bracer is in CS3
>whining about not understanding what the characters referring to Liberl are talking about
Recommending him this series was a mistake on my part.
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>>551165221
Just tell him to pay no mind, it's barely relevant anyway.
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>>551165221
In fairness to him, expecting any regular person to go back 20+ fucking years in terms of gameplay and sit through 3 (minimum) 80ish hour JRPGs just to be "caught up" is asking a fucking lot. And that's not including the Zero/Azure saga, or the mangas or the games that just aren't translated officially or unofficially.
Not to mention that it's debated if the pre-Trails games (Legend of Heroes) is canonically the middle/dark ages of the continent so there's potentially even more lore to go on there.

You have to have some ruinous autism if you're -actually- going to maintain and keep up a 100% "scope" on this universe.

>>551144410
Why not just play it on PS4 if you're so desperate?
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>>551165221
Tell him to watch the cutscenes on youtube.
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>>551165492
>giving money to sony
I'll double dip on PC&Switch
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>>551144410
Reminder that hahaposting is for yoshichads only, trailsfags fuck off
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>>551165610
This.
>fucking giving money to Snoy in any form
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I'm gonna spend an hour just ogling Elie's tits.
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>>551165492
>sit through 3 (minimum) 80ish hour JRPGs just to be "caught up" is asking a fucking lot
That is, essentially, the barrier of entry, yes. Cold Steel 3 showed Lloyd, KeA and even the Divind Blade of Wind and doesn't give a nanoshit about whether you know who they are or not.

Based on the fact that Calvard has been announced, it's only going to get harder to keep all this shit straight so you might as well find a way back on the wagon now before it gets harder. A couple of games into Calvard and you KNOW they're going to start dropping references to CS1-4.
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I hope PC bros can quickly get onto getting some good panty shots.
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I really hope they abandon the harem shit for the Calvard arc
pls no harem shit
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>>551167085
She's so lovely.
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>>551164161
The appeal is getting to play 10 jrpgs in the same setting, kind of like FFX and X-2 but it's 10 games. Protags from previous games return and team up with the new current protags to fight the bad guys. There are a lot of returning NPCs too.
I wouldn't describe Trails story as interesting. The plot is formulaic and predictable in all the games. It's more like a world you can get lost and invested in. But it does have plenty of kino and emotional moments.
If i had to describe the themes of the plot: the first arc in the series is about having faith in the good of humanity despite all the evil we do, the second is about overcoming obstacles no matter how impossible it may seem, and the third is about how friendship can change people for the better and how it can be used to fight evil. It never tries to be too smart for its own good and I for one appreciate the series for that.
Some people find it boring because the pacing is slow and there's a lot of filler content which is true. A lot of negative opinions come from fans themselves who couldn't handle the twists and how the plot unfolded in the series so they become mindbroken like the KHfags or mmofags and it becomes a sunken cost series for them.
It's all about whether you like the world itself and the characters enough to get invested. It also has one of my favourite turn based combat systems and it's the one thing usually people don't criticize it for, it's fun and can be made brutally challenging with higher difficulty settings and mods. Even in Cold Steel where the games become too easy you can have a lot of fun in figuring out how to break the games in a bunch of different ways because there's a lot of gear and materia customization.
The music is awesome in all the games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azjB3lsUTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i2doN33__8
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>>551164161
Its like getting to enjoy a JRPG WITHOUT having to turn my brain off. For Sky at least, I'm not a fan of Coldsteel and I haven't played Ao and Zero yet.

Mind you this isn't me saying this franchise is "cerebral" or anything but everything just feels well fleshed out and deliberate. The plot can be predictable but the storybeats still hit hard because they're set up on such an incredibly solid foundation. When something in the world happens it actually carries weight because you're so invested.
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>>551168123
>Not Mishy panties.
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I want to see Elie's panties.
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>>551168637
she probably would be reluctant to wear them because she wants to be seen as an adult
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>They're trying to push the 'play the inferior older games that barely have anything to do with the superior game' meme again
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>>551168815
>L-loydo-san...I-IM NOT JUST A GIRL NOW OKAY?? IM ALREADY SIXTEEN
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>>551164161
It's a shounen in JRPG format that spans 10+ games, if that doesn't sound like the coolest shit then get out of here.
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How can you people still stomach playing the same game time and again?
3rd was the last one for me.
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>>551168990
Or, you can watch the cutscenes on youtube with japanese VA.
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>>551169374
Kevin is still my favorite JRPG protagonist
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>>551170009
Stand aside for best girl and actual best protag
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>>551168460
>>551168623
Huh, sounds interesting, but I know myself well enough that I wouldn't be able to get invested for more than 1-2 games if it's a matter of being well-made but cliche. I appreciate how well you guys answered the question, maybe I'll check out the games one day, but I don't have it in me to dive into something like this. Thanks!
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>>551169907
Hot as fuck. Lloyd still hasn't fucked her.
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How can I play these games without playing the old ones?. Don't really have time for 6x80 hours of games I don't really like just to play my persona rip off
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>>551170897
you don't
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>>551170897
Then start with Cold Steel 1.
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>>551170897
Watch yt recaps
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Is this viable?
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Haha, guess it's time to not hold back
>orphaned and adopted into a Noble family
>final student of a legendary swordsman
>secret son of the mysterious big bad who's actually good
>such a chad that he not only adds every woman to his ever-expanding harem but also the men
>his sister and her friend (who is the royal princess)'s vaginas becomes waterfalls at the sheer mention of his name
>chosen to pilot an ancient super mecha
>masters and can fully control his *psh nothin personell kid" demonic powers
>wields a tachi and can teleport behind you
>beats one of the most powerful swordsmen in history that's hyped up in Trails in the Sky
>grows up to become a teacher, can romance his underage students
>just saying "haha" makes everybody drop their pants for him
>uses the power of friendship to defeat the true antagonist interdimensional hatred curse that appears at the last second
>is technically royalty, his biological father is the reincarnation of an ancient Emperor
>breaks up budding romances between other characters that were developing in the third game because everybody sucks his dick in the fourth game
>even the protagonists of previous games hype him up
>kills himself in a noble self sacrifice with his fujobait boyfriend to break a curse but not really because the even bigger bigger villains rewrite the timeline to get the true ending
>becomes one of the strongest characters on the continent
>has the option to cuck Estelle away from Joshua, Tita away from Agate, Tio away from Lloyd, etc.
>now a version of himself from an alternate timeline is trying to kill him because he's too chad
>awakens a new inner power to combat this alternate self, giving him heterochromia in the process
>tops Japanese official popularity polls, brought his franchise to the spotlight,
>made it so that the majority of the franchise's games are about him
>is the writer's favorite character, writer goes on to call the previous protagonists embarrassing
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>>551166648
you and every sane (in other words not japanese) person
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>>551171243
It perfectly is....however you will be missing out on a lot of stuff that while not story critical, its pretty neat to see worldbuilding wise
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>>551166648
>Rean topping in popularity and Cold Steel was the most profitable game

yeah... haha....

at least it's getting interested with the whole alternative worlds shit and isekai Rean, because the ending for CSIV, *an ancient evil was behind everything* was the most boring shit ever
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>>551169907
>Weed bikini
DUDE
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>>551171243
sure, but everyone will laugh at you for being a casual who go memed into playing it and starting at the worst arc
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already platinumed it but good for the pcfriends
might grab it when its on sale just to add it to my collection since i have every game on steam already
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>>551171243
1-2 are mostly independent, 3-4 is where cold steel becomes Avengers and assumes you watched all the superhero movies before it. If you get that far you'll know if you want to go back or not anyway.
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>you will outlive Haha threads
Feels based bros.
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hajimari WHEN
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>>551171546
The whole idea of ancient curse was retarded.
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>>551171546
Except you already knew about the spoiler at the end of the first play through of cold steel 2 while the NG+ scene just confirms it.
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>all the whining faggots ITT complaining about having to beat 9 JRPGs that are 100+ hours each
I've nightmared every game (Sky 2 was a bitch, fuck Kurt) and enjoyed the everloving fuck out of it. Even spent 150 hours getting 100% in Cold Steel 3. That shit is dope.

>>551144410
I will be double-dipping for Switch and PC too, meaning I now own 3 copies of this game. Something about Trails just makes me go full conzoomer-mode.
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>>551174140
>i've nightmared every game
that just makes you an autist tho
t. has played every game up to zero no kiseki
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Is the switch version gonna have a physical version
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>>551174140
>conzoomer-mode
Honestly doesn't sound like a full on retard consumer. If you're getting 150+ hours of enjoyment out of these games I'd argue that's money pretty well spent.

I live in the middle of god damn nowhere and my internet can often go down weeks at a time, so having these really long really involving JRPGs is perfect for those times. I played Sky 1 about 3 times (I can't remember if I beat it that last time) for the 100% but yeah it's definitely fun trying. I discover some new little NPC side-story or some fun easter egg every time. If nothing else I know how you feel putting so many hours into these games.
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Any discounts on PC?
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>>551174634
Oh it is no doubt rabid autism.

>>551174776
Good on you Anon, keep having fun.
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>>551144410
Geofront needs to hurry up and release the Azure patch so I can continue my Trails playthrough. I don't want to skip games. And no I will not use the currently available translation because I talk to all NPCs and heard that secondary dialogue is MTL-tier on it.
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>>551169374
>if that doesn't sound like the coolest shit then get out of here.
That really is the coolest thing about this entire series for me. I'm still slowly going through TiTS 1 though.
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>>551174140
All these games to enjoy and they want to skip the best parts, really jogs the noggin.
Nice to see another kiseki autist who loves this series as much as I do.
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>>551175346
Agree, Tits is really charming in its own way and not to mention great characters
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>>551175346
I don't even get it
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO PLAY THROUGH 10 AWESOME VIDEO GAMES TO FULLY LEARN THE STORY?
>I ONLY WANNA PLAY THE NEWEST! I DON'T HAVE TIME TO PLAY THAT MANY GAMES!
Are you dying soon? Even if it takes you 5 years to play through the saga, then that just means you will perpetually be playing or will be looking forward to playing a great video game. I just don't get the obsession with wanting to immediately jump to the latest game.
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>>551175886
As someone who had doubts about jumping into the first games, one of the main reasons is the fact the game looks heavily outdated, not to mention you dpnt even know if the first games are actually good
but if someone else has this doubts i can safely say, play the games, they wont dissapoint
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>>551171292
cool it with the racism
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>>551175346
>Best parts
They're fucking boring and you know it. Stop trying to shovel shit down everyone's throats.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZJLqTHci98
How does it feel to not know soul Hahafags?
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>>551177252
will silver will ever be toped vros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8x6NUuZR5I
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>>551171546
Wait. I haven’t been keeping up. What’s this about alternate worlds and isekai shit?
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>>551177252
Sounds boring and low energy.
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>>551176423
Νο
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Aurelia a best.
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>>551144410
I just bought Trails of Cold Steel 1-3 on amazon.
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Alisa is still Rean's canon pairing.
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>>551179202
*Fie is still Rean's canon pairing*
Fixed if for you.
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No Aurelia No buy.
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>>551179419
why is rean a manlet in this image
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>>551179202
Good
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>>551178323
the only isekai is mcburn/spoiler] and hes not from the real world its implied that he is from nayuta no kiseki world
the evil rean in hajimari isn't isekai'd from another timeline, hes a reconstruction by a supercomputer who simulated all possible timelines and produced an error when it simulated the normal ending of cold steel 4, the supercomputer is like an ai that spawned from the orbal net and combined with the spirit veins to give it superpowers or some retarded shit
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the switch port demo of III seems like it kinda sucks performance wise. will IV perform the same way?
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>>551180660
is there a single port that doesn't run like shit on the switch?
i dont know why youd give a fuck about playing cold steel portably anyway
accidentally posted in the wrong thread lol
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>>551180925
plenty of switch ports are fantastic and playing jrpgs portably is the best way ever to play them
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I miss my junieposter wife...
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>>551181059
>dark room
>bottles for piss
>no one to bother you for weeks
Ahhh... truely isekai'd to another world
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>>551181385
>Ahhh... truely kisekai'd to another world
fixed
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>>551180925
Trails games would actually be great on Switch. It's a shame XSeed are retarded and will just ignore the Sky games and CS1/2 since they're probably still butthurt about losing Falcom to NISA.
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>>551181385
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>>551165221
Your brother has better taste than you.
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>>551179419
Wrong, Fie is for me!
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>>551180660
Yes from footage on Youtube. And It'll probably crash all the time like CS3 does.
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>>551165221
Man even if you skip sky how can you not go back to zero after CS2? Not even a little bit curious about Lloyd and Crossbell?
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>>551171243
Just play 1 and 2 then get spoiled to hell and back on the events of the past games to catch up.
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>>551144410
If you didn't play it on PS4 back in November, you aren't a real Kisekichad
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>>551182229
i cant imagine playing cs2 without having played zero. i'm lucky i got into the series when everything up until cs3 was out and playable in english in some form and having that little epilogue where you play as lloyd after not seeing him for 2 games and you fucking fight rean as a boss fight who you had just been controlling for 120 or so hours was kino as fuck and it was great to finally get the info about what happened to crossbell after azures abrupt ending
i think that would be lost on someone who didnt play zero/ao and its those little moments that make playing all the games so rewarding for me
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>>551175886
I've already played them but I had a similar problem with the Atelier games in that I play so many different kind of games and I get through them so slowly that I literally couldn't keep up with them releasing new games and only caught up after 7 years of playing the games gradually. Shit's an investment.
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>>551181385
I wish. Wife and kids never leave me the fuck alone. Always needing shit.
I might rent a hotel room for a week and start a piss bottle collection there.
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>>551174140
based
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>>551185037
Imagine the smell
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>>551185037
Lloyd is great but damm he is an idiot
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>>551163486
Would you have liked Trails of the flash of a reflection of light on a tachi better?
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>>551185037
Need more.
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>>551186186
Best hope pcbros can help out.
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I stopped playing it right before the final dungeon. The fact that with all the crazy shit happening the game still wanted me to do side quests like playing fucking cards killed it for me. I'm gonna go back to it, but I still don't feel like it.
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>>551174140
>it gets good 700 hours in, bro!
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>>551188210
Can you not read?
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>>551170248
If you only want to try 2 games then I highly recommend trying Zero no Kiseki and Ao no Kiseki. They need fan translations but they're a perfect middle ground between the older and newer games and it's generally liked by most fans. It also has the most balanced combat and difficulty I think.
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>>551178978
So?
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>>551188489
Estelle-sama...
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>>551188356
Is Crossbell the only part of the series that isn't really disliked by anybody who likes the games? Some CSfags don't like Sky and a lot of Skyfags don't like CS but I've never really seen any overly negative opinions about Crossbell.
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>>551144410
Finally freedom tomorrow...
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>>551170897
you play the game in order if you're not a retard
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>>551188532
Lloyd is a pretty boring dude but the Crossbell games get some good hype moments.
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>>551188907
Not sure how you can say that when 3 exists. I found 4's pacing to actually be pretty decent once you stop expecting it to go full climax in every scene and treat it like just another kiseki game with mild and leisurely pacing. Found that helped a lot with my 2nd playthrough and I ended up enjoying it a lot more than my first.
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>>551189118
Ain't that the truth?
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>>551189286
>Not sure how you can say that when 3 exists.
W-wait I thought 2 was the worst one, are you really gonna tell me it gets even worse?
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btw how was the PS4 english version of the game? did it had any issues? i heard Durante did some fixed for this PC port
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>>551189404
No, 2's the worst and 3 is really good, easily one of the best games in the series. It's just not very well paced with some of it's acts long overstaying their welcome.
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>>551189286
3 was fine because West Erebonia was new and I liked the shadow school/trainbase setup.

4 is literally exploring West Erebonia another three times, once using spirit veins (same shit as CS2) once using a Merkabah (same shit as Ao) and finally using the Courageous (same as CS2, again)
You're just going around the same areas again and again and again while almost nothing happens.
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>>551189347
I meant to reply to the post bellow yours, my bad
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>>551188356
>Zero no Kiseki and Ao no Kiseki
Cool, I see they're for the PSP as well which is what I was hoping because I wanted to play them on a portable console. Just making sure, is there a specific fan translation I should get, or just the one I see when I google it?
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>>551188572
Yeah Crossbell gets discussed the least due to lack of shitflinging. Most Sky fans say that it's flawed but good. Only a small number of dedicated autists shit on it.
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>>551189106
My girl of choice.
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>>551189593
It was okay, the amount of frame drops weren't that bad at all but there were a few typos
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>>551189745
Crossbell's strength comes from being hyperfocused on a single city, instead of a whole country. If you care about the individual NPCs and how they struggle over multiple games, it's great.
It's the same reason people give a shit about Anton, it's familiarity.
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>>551189648
Yeah it certainly retreads it's steps a bit too much but I think at that point I was already invested enough in the characters to just enjoy their interactions for their own sake. I know CS's cast isn't particularly well liked here but I've got to admit 3 made them grow on me which helped me enjoy 4 a lot more than I would have otherwise. I also think that unlike 3, 4 moves about quick enough that at the very least you don't grow tired of being in the same place for too long.
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>>551144410
>gog
kys
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>>551190012
I guess my biggest disappointment with 4 is that the only new places are tiny villages out in the hills. You don't go anywhere interesting or exciting at all, I'd hoped for shit to pop off a bit more and maybe get to visit somewhere like North Ambria, but shit out of luck on that front.
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>>551189741
There's an mtl tier one and a polished one with meme tier dialogue so take your pick. I always opt for more literal translations but thats just me.
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>>551189106
If we ever get to see her again I hope her tits will be super massive.
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>>551190254
Yeah, this comes from the issue of 3 and 4 originally being conceived as a single game. Though it didn't really bother me too much since 4 doesn't really introduce anything all that new which would require you to go to knew places. Also I really like the dungeon you rescue Rean from. Easily one of the best parts of the game.
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>>551190389
Based literal TL bro.
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>>551190389
Based, fuck meme "localisations".
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>>551190550
I agree, I like it when they force split your party, otherwise I just use the same people forever.
I wish the final dungeon had split up class 7 too like send a group to each sub boss instead of just taking them all one by one.
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>>551190389
Crossbell really is a city.
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I want some Trails merchandise what is a place to get some?
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>>551189741
what he said >>551190389 but the PSP versions only have the mtl translations and yeah, the first one that pops up. If that's a dealbreaker for you then Sky 1-2 is localized on the PSP.
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>>551190879
I bought a Rean shirt ironically unironically from NISA store.
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>>551190852
I also like how 4 has guest characters have set loadouts so you don't have to deck out every single character in those moments. 3's final dungeon was insufferable for that making it easily the worst of the 4.
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>>551191117
I hated the thought of having to micromanage a bunch of characters I didn't care for but the final dungeon of 3 gave me no trouble at all, I found it really enjoyable
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>>551191117
>he can't deck out 20 party members in 5 minutes
You still have a lot to learn.
>>551191348
Damn when did you take this screenshot? 4 years ago?
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>>551191604
Something like that
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>>551191604
>You still have a lot to learn.
The biggest problem was because I felt it fitting I literally never used any character that wasn't Rean or new class VII unless I had to so suddenly having so many to deck left me overwhelmed when I never even cared about using them in the first place.
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for me, it's Emma.
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>>551191572
wew lad
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>>551190389
Geofront's Randy is in line with NISA's Randy. Sorry but this is official.
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>>551164391
It plays literally exactly the same as 3
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Have the disk for Hajimari, but the translation program overlay thing is really janky. It puts me off playing it. I love the series, but man we got to find away in to the ps4 so people can do a proper translation patch.
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>>551192639
Don't have to, PC port is coming this summer. I'm sure someone will make a patch.
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>>551192731
I hope so, but my problems with the overlay may be my own fault and it may work fine for other people.
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>>551168460
kudos for being the first ever honest trails fan Ive ever seen
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>>551190879
Most of my kiseki merch is from yahoo auctions, but im sure if you look hard enough you can find some elsewhere. I've bought some things from amiami and cdjapan.
Still waiting on this scroll I bought, the fucking coof delayed it into next decade.
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>>551174140
Who's that girl in your picture? Is she in this series? Might have to play it.
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>>551194112
Fie Claussel. She's in Cold Steel.
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>>551194112
That's Fie, Anon. And yes, she's in the entire Cold Steel series.
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>>551194964
How it should be.
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Can't wait to be raped by Laura
Can't wait to be stepped on by the cake squad
And most of all can't wait to haha
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>>551194964
Can't wait for more Tio
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Prepare for 150 hours.
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>Tio will forever look cute and funny
Based
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>>551188572
skyfags are people who want everything to have a forced romance with two of the most retarded characters right up in your face.
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>>551196109
as it should be
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>>551191572
Sorry Estelle
I dont want to but any niggers
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I want to breed Laura and watch as her belly grows with my child.
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Estelle is pure trash. I'm glad i never wasted money on her games.
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Estelle? More like retard.
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Tio's stocking design is a right turn on.
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>>551196394
>>551196571
>>551196834
>>551196934
Where did you come from?
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>>551196989
Shut up Estelle simp
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>>551196989
>He thinks people like NotAsuna
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>>551197130
I'm a CSfag, I just don't appreciate your false flagging.

>>551197183
I mean I don't really like her either, anon's just being excessive.
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>>551196989
Usual shill thread tactic, bump the thread with incendiary comments just to stir discussion.
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>>551197278
I got one for you, Rean is a top 10 protagonist.
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>>551196989
estelle is the kind of woman who gets abused by her bf and then develops a 180 meek personality
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>>551197252
Excessive isn't enough for Estelle.
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>>551197278
Take your meds.
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>>551197278
Retard
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>>551192357
"right in the feels" is a long way from "bruh moment:"
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Which girl did/will you partner with Rean?
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>>551197857
Sara. In every game.
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>>551197857
Sara.
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>>551197924
Sara is the only one with enough balls to go for full on hugs and kisses.
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>>551197857
Lovely Princess Alfin.
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>>551196541
I find it amusing that this new girl is the same age as them
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>>551144410
>only played the first game
>didn't even got halfway into the 2nd game
>never played the 3rd game
>didn't played any of the other games
This series is one of the most frustrating things to get into because I need to play a million other games to stay up to date with the latest one. I do not have the energy to invest that much time in all of the games.
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>>551144410
Which Trails series has the best dating elements? I don't care about plot nor worldbuilding.
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Word of warning for people going for the 100% the last part of the game really has an exhaustive list of monsters that need to be scanned. partys are split, and each party fights different monsters.
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>>551198187
>because I need to play a million other games to stay up to date with the latest one
I literally don't see the issue considering the franchise arguably already peaked in the earlier titles. Oh no, I got to slog through the GOOD games first because I can play the mediocre modern ones...
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>>551197857
His cute&canon love interest of course
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>>551198257
cold steel 4 is the only game i ever did all the scanning for and got the platinum for
i dont think ill ever do it again
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>>551197857
Alisa the canon girlfriend.
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>>551198332
*before I can play the mediocre modern ones
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>>551197857
Musse the canon girlfriend
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>>551198187
You can just do cold steel 1-2 or cold steel 3-4.
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>>551198343
I does take the piss out of you. But autism compels.
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>>551198187
Don't marathon them then. Finish a game and then take a month off. I'm doing my Trails playthrough over the course of a year. I started last November and finished Zero 2 weeks ago. I'm currently taking a break while waiting Geofront's Azure patch.
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>>551198187
Then don't? People act like theres a gun to their head to play this series. OH NO I MIGHT MISS OUT ON THE WEEK 1 DISCUSSION OF THIS SERIES. Who gives a shit? We played these games because we thought they were good not because we wanted to play the latest entry only. If you don't want to do that then don't bother and play another series where every game is self-contained because theres about a million of those.
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>>551197857
Going with musse.
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>>551198332
Can tell that you're a massive retard but I don't have several hundreds of hours to throw at the whole series regardless if I touch the cold steel one. It would take me months if not a whole year to get from point A to B being CS4. I have MH and a bunch of other games in my plate to boot. I started way too late into the series
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why so many anons force themselves to play series they don't like? I marathoned the entire series back to back from sky to cs2 in about 2-3 months time.
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>>551198575
It does puzzle me that a series that it is common knowledge that it has a rolling story, still has people want to jump in on the 7th game and have a clue to what is going on.
Admittedly the game does give a at least a small primer.
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>>551198771
>they don't like
Literally nobody said this.
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>>551197857
Emma
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>>551198708
Anon are YOU retarded? Did you even read what I say? There IS NO RUSH to get to coldsteel because they're the worse half of the franchise anyways. You're literally complaining you "have to" play the better entries in the franchise to get to the mediocre ones. It makes no sense. And its perfectly viable to just stop after Sky or Zero/Ao.
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>>551198708
Why is taking a year to catch up a negative thing? Literally the only negative I see is that "I can't participate in muh ebin /v/ threads", but even so I highly doubt Kiseki threads will be gone a year from now. Hell, if you get cracking right now you'll probably be able to participate in the Hajimari localization hype.
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>>551198771
I dunno man. I played FC > CS3 including crossbell over the space of 3 months back to back because i thought the games were awesome, not to force myself to because of a meme or sense of obligation. People are so jaded and bitter about this series and I mean I do kind of get why but its also taken too far.
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>>551198957
I dont know anon, it sounds to me like lots of anons just want participation award so they skip to last games.
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>>551196541
Little girls thighs...
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>>551199129
>they're the worse half of the franchise anyways.
Ok what e celeb told you that?
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>>551199129
Cold Steel is better than crossbell dude
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>>551198771
They dont. People say YOU GOTTA PLAY SKY 1-3, AO, AND ZERO! YOU MUST! and you have others who say just play cold steel and play the rest if you really want to. The characters in cold steel 3 and 4 only appear for plot points that are relevant to those games.
Because when you get down to it, cold steel has the best story, characters, and game play in the series.
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>>551198157
calvard girls grow fast
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ironic reanposting and cs praising was a mistake
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>another trails threads full of ADHD retards
>DUDE I CAN'T PLAY THE WHOLE SERIES LIKE IM SOOOOOOOOOO BUSY *play league for 15 hours with his braindead friends*
Then fucking don't you bunch of retarded niggers
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>>551199129
Cold Steel is the peak nigger. Don't take your nostalgia blinded opinion as fact.
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Ottie!
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Damn it I just want friends to talk about game series
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REAN-SAMA PLEASE FUCK ESTELLE UUUOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>551199535
It's extremely ironic that they're crying about how busy they are while posting on /v/. Probably the same people making "tired gamer threads"
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>>551199516
it definitely was, this is the future you chose though
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>binge watching zoomers culture
I can't wait a week for an episode bro I have to watch them all at once and consume the next product right away arrrrrrghhhhh 10 games?!?!?!?!?!?!? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo let me just play CS4 and thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>551199835
Anon are you fucking retarded? You're contradicting yourself here.
>I can't wait a week for an episode bro I have to watch them all at once and consume the next product right away
Is literally the exact opposite of
>arrrrrrghhhhh 10 games?!?!?!?!?!?!? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo let me just play CS4 and thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do they want to binge or do they not want to binge, which is it?
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>>551199556
Which entry? 1 was barely passable and the half of 2 that I played was fucking garbo
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>>551199535
I don't care that people don't want to play 9 50+ hour long games thats fine its a big investment and some people dont care enough or are too busy or whatever. I care that they somehow act like its unfair or that they're entitled to experience everything with just one game or that they're somehow being forced against their will by someone or something into playing the games. You don't want to play it then don't it's that simple.
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the curse was a mistake
fakeout deaths are fucking gay
now we have this robot shit
"a robot did it" is going to be the new "the curse made him do it"
"a robot died" will be the new fakeout death
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AAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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>>551199654
>collegues at my jobs only know about nintendo games and moba shit
haha yeah bros pokemon is fun im a big fan
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>>551200079
We have to keep up the gatekeeping. If anything Trails gatekeeping is lacking. Fuck the people who "have no time". Fuck them in to the ground. The moment you relax is the moment the games are overrun with faggotry.
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Rixia Mao.
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>>551200067
3 and 4 are the most I've enjoyed the series.
CS4>>CS3>>Ao>3rd>CS1>SC>Zero>FC>CS2
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>>551200431
anyone who puts fc that low is a fucking pleb
fc stands for filtering cretins it seems
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>>551200056
>all trails games are massively long
>100h+ if you're a completionist except for FC maybe
Thats not binge. Binge for them would be to watch a 5 minutes recap youtube video of each games
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>>551200431
Sure hope so, I still intend to play them obviously but I'm just so tired of hearing "waaah why do I have to play these good games :("
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>>551144410
Bros, is it worth continuing this game? Ended up falling off this game months ago back on the PS4, right after mounting the rescue at the enemy base. I just got this ugly feeling that we're gonna go right back to old shit with everyone sucking ashen cock and the game showing him as practically fucking infallible. Does it get better? Just the rescue itself put me off considering you barely even did any rescuing because Devil Trigger Boy saved himself with the power of edge. And I say this as a fan of the series.
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>>551200394
But Kondo and Falcom need money
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>>551200546
FC is only good when juxtaposed against SC and 3rd. It's painfully lacking as a self contained product and I have to judge it as such.
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>>551200636
i dont understand these posts
if you got far enough that you made it to the fourth rean steel game you already have no standards so you might aswell just enjoy it for what it is or you never would have finished the first game
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>>551200630
How would you rate your enjoyment of the games so far? I think I'll be able to tell if you'll like them based on your preference for the previous games.
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I will not play Cold Steel until Hajimari get a confirmed release date in the west
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>>551200546
>muh comfy adventure
Fuck off. You're the same kind of faggot that would complain about nothing happening in CS1 and 2 and probably even Zero.
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>>551200931
What's the consensus on a potential western Hajimari release anyway? This year? Next? Heard there's a new Ys localisation coming or something that might push Hajimari back.
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>>551200840
Thing is I played through Sky and started Coldsteel before Zero and Ao had playable translations, so my list basically goes
3rd>SC>FC>CS1>CS2 (which I've only played halfway because I wanna play zero and ao now)

Don't think there's much insight in that
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>>551167285
This was cut from the fourth game?
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>>551200727
FC and SC was actually 1 game that they had to cut in half because engine limitations, the written script was so fuckhuge it couldnt fit.
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>>551201073
Ys10 was just hinted by Kondo no official confirmation yet I doubt it will come before Hajimari.

My guess would be Q1 2022
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>>551167595
>Rixia
Jesus fuckin' Christ and I thought Elie was big in the new engine.
>>551201269
Huh, cool.
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>>551201038
If you can't appreciate the low stakes adventure of FC then you are exactly the type of pleb who Cold Steel caters to who ruined the series. The "nothing happens" of FC is infinitely more interesting than the "nothing happens" of CS1 and FLYING AROUND of CS2 because the characters are actually good.
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Kiseki is a franchise that appreciate its loli characters and know how important they are. I invite all cunnyseurs to join us.
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>>551201080
Might change depending on how you like Crossbell games but I'd say you'd put 3 somewhere near FC and 4 could be anywhere from right at the bottom or near the top, it's such a polarising game that the only two opinions I've seen of it are people absolutely loving it or despising it as the cancer that killed the series.
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Which Trails of games should I start first?
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This series is shit now but I'm too much invested.
Maybe Calvard will be better.
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>>551201582
As long as Totally Not Young Victor Guy is not some sorta chosen one or in-born powerhouse, I'm happy.
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>>551201265
Well sure if I'm going to judge them as a single product I'd put it either at the same level or just above CS1 but CS1 and 2 were supposed to be a single game too so if I'm judging one as a single experience then I'd have to judge the other as a single experience and I hate CS2 and don't want it tainting CS1(which I actually like a lot more than it's place on the list would suggest since it was my first game) so I won't.
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>>551201492
Import Hajimari
CS3
Sky SC
Ao
CS1
Sky 3rd
CS4
Sky FC
CS2
and finish with Zero

In that order
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>>551201354
Estelle is a boring character in the world Rean at least has something special about him.
She was not really all that interesting on her own. All she has is important characters who know her.
She only gets to be a Bracer because her dad put in a good word and he is a big shot. So nepotisim is her first crime.
Next is the " i am unsure about my feelings" bullshit we have seen so many fucking times it is has transcended tropes in to lazy writing.
So yes Sky is quite boring. Cold Steal has characters that are actually important to the world.
Estelle is the "my dad works at nintendo" protagonist.
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>>551201492
The answer will always be Trails in the Sky
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>>551201354
Imagine if CS1-4 were condensed into 2 games like all the previous ones. Then you can still have Hajimari like the 3rd, but just think of all the pointless bullshit that could've been cut out, like the entirety of CS2.
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>>551201928
>something special
You mean fucking EVERYTHING special. It's such a shit way of writing a character. Basically some 12 year old's kid OC.
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>>551201354
I actually think CS1 actually does the low stakes adventure better than FC does honestly since in CS1 you constantly get little bits of build up to the coming events and it's full of bits of foreshadowing and building up the threat don't care if CS2 shits the bed, the set up is good at least where as FC is literally nothing happens in favour of building up the characters, which honestly aren't good enough to take up that much attention until it throws a curve ball in your face right at the end without warning.
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>>551202180
So why would you be interested in a character that has 0 relevance to the story at all? Reans specal status is quite warranted considering the story and how it played out. The ogre power was Ishmelga that was inside him because his father put it inside him. Totally justified.
Do you know why people hated Vann in FF12? He had 0 to do with the damn plot. Like Estelle.
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>>551202335
I'm pretty sure CS is just Kondo remaking TiTs the way he originally wanted to, it always felt like that to me anyway, I remember noticing a lot of parallels when playing through CS.
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>Ao
This game is non-stop hype once it gets over the slow start. Ending is a little bit fumbled and it ends abruptly but this is easily the best ride from beginning to end in the entire series. Peak Kiseki.
>Zero, FC, SC, 3rd
Great adventures and represent a lot of the best parts of the series. Definitely a lot of issues with pacing (though thats common in pretty much every game) but these are the games that made a lot of us fall in love with the series. Characters were all on point and a lot of the series most memorable moments happened in this games.
>CS3
The best of the Cold Steel saga. Fixed a lot of the issues that plagued Cold Steel but retained many others. Still an enjoyable game with a lot to like.
>CS4 and Hajimari.
Fun games, but the stories are utterly braindead retarded. CS4 is supposed to be an epic conclusion to 8 games worth of buildup but nothing really happens for most of the game. Hajimari's plot is so utterly stupid it feels like fanfiction. The gameplay in these games are what save them from being irredeemable.
>CS1
It's such a terrible introduction to the series. None of the characters are remotely interesting at all in this game and the first couple hours leave such a bad taste in your mouth that If i hadn't played Sky and Crossbell beforehand and started with this I doubt I would have played it longer than 3 hours. The plot has some things that might be interesting but the School setting just completely squanders all the potential Erebonia had. Orbment system was just boiled down to a stat stacking apparatus.
>Nayuta, CS2
Nayuta just sucks. It's just a bland janky beta of an Ys game. Only thing that is noteworthy is that it might potentially be related to the mainline series but its not confirmed yet. Cold Steel 2 is easily the low point of Kiseki. The civil war plot is painfully bland and barren and full of holes. There are vast strecthes where you really feel the padding the most painfully out of any game in the series.
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>>551201492
CS4
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>>551202180
>Rean
>Special
The only thing special about him is how he is a giga chad who didn't go on an insanity induced murder spree thanks to being surrounded by the most retarded people ever.
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>ITS OKAY WHEN SKY DOES IT YOU DAMN HAHAFAG AAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>551202429
Since when did the series ever was about muh super special protag. it was always about regular people surrounded by extraordinary people but still managing to be helpful because of their qualities. See Estelle and Lloyd.
Then you have Rean who is so fucking special and unique and badass, nobody else matters, really.
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>>551144410
>crossover shit

Cold steel ended at 2 while it was good
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>It is going to be funny when Kuro comes out and the shit posters have to admit CS4 was not that bad to hate on the newest game.
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>>551202335
CS1 builds up the characters, plot, and world way better than any other game.
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>>551202983
0/10
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>>551202429
I actually very much agree with what you say in the first half, people over state how much shit Rean gets given to him when they're pretty much all linked up and are part of the same thing. Rean wouldn't be an awakener if not for his connection to Ishmelga or his father. I think the only gimmick of Reans that wasn't handed to him on a silver plater by big daddy Dreichels in the name of destiny is his sword style which also plays into Rean's character of why he's so attached to it. But I disagree about Estelle though, it's a different kind of set up not inherently inferior. Even then I've got to dock points to Rean due to how poorly he's executed a lot of the time so I'd say they aren't too different in quality.
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>>551202987
tfw kuro will be hated a CS1-4 will be considered kino classics
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>>551202978
Ao/Zeo also had a special protag.
If you want to tempt the wrath of the AO fags most of the shit you say about Rean also apply's to Lloyd. Just face it, Sky was the building block, but not how the series was going to be built.
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>>551199535
Hey, I have adhd and just finished sc, I just get distracted easily. I really enjoyed them.
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>>551201492
if you start with CS1 you're going to miss a lot of lore behind certain parts of cold steel
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>>551202997
>builds character
lol Class vii never even fucking interact with each other.
Class VII and it's billion characters is the biggest mistake the series ever made and it affected all the games that followed.
Even they knew they fucked up, since they did CS3 with like 1/10th of the cast. Should've done that from the start.
That's why Ao/Zero were fucking perfect, a close group of 4 people who you get to know and acre occasionally joined by others.
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>>551203259
Stop masturbating
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Playing through 3rd, on chapter 3. Just finished Orbal Gear Project Part 2. I get the sinking feeling that the fanbase is not fond of Erika. If so, let me just say in advance, that y'all have shit taste and you need to back the fuck up. Erika is fucking hilarious, and has yet to actually do or say anything wrong. I love her.
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>>551202978
Anon, you might be retarded. Can you really not understand that each arc is trying to be thematically different? You're grossly oversimplifying the similarities from Sky to Crossbell too. Crossbell is just as much alike to Cold Steel. I swear it's legit not even shitposting that Skyfags want literally every game to just be Sky again. Let Sky be Sky and let the other games do their thing.
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>>551189106
the angel of the erebonian empire....
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>>551203402
Why would you hate Erika? She's a very entertaining side character and her clashes with Agate are enjoyable.
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>>551203402
Agate is our cunnyseur and this hoe is trying to stop our boy from getting prime cunny
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>>551203384
Nah, I was too busy playing xbc1 and 2, and playing twewy currently
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>>551203215
Oh yeah when did Lloyd had a super dark secret super saiyan power inside of him and could pilot a robot because he was the chosen one and also his dad was the president of the world.
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>>551203574
>>551203139
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>>551202813
A giga chad who has to get bailed out multiple times against villains who are merely holding back.
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>>551203438
>muh sky
Shut the fuck up, retard. it's literally the only thing you can ever say, conveniently ignoring Crossbell, which was the best of the series doing the same thing because it's not part of your shitposting ritual.
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>>551203487
Dunno, something about her makes me think whiny morons or shippers hate her for the oh so terrible crime of being concerned that some asshole might be trying to get fresh with her daughter.
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>>551203139
Estelle. She is a low rank bracer, but somehow she gets in to all the important meetings with important people. She is a nobody who has had everything given to her from her connected father.
Most Rean's adoptive noble father does for him was tell him he loved him as his true born son.
All his power came from training or battle experience. Nobody gave him shit.
>>551203574
All that wanking off about Guy flew over your head right. Lloyd was handed shit only because of his brother.
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>>551203673
Can you not read? What part of my statement of Crossbell being just as similar to Cold Steel as it is to Sky did you not understand? Stop trying to make the divide of Sky and Crossbell to Cold Steel you disingenuous nigger.
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>>551203139
One of the reasons Rean is such shit is because of class vii.
They can't actually show Rean doing something because he has to hold back, so they keep hammering you with those retards circlejerking over Rean for the entirety of the games for no fucking reason other than him being the designated anime protagonist.
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I like all the games.
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>>551203668
Well that's just how amazing the villains are. MCBURN and whats her face will never get a turn and they'll still manage to dish out an overwhelming and decisive victory.
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If sky was such a good game then why was Joshua a literal linkin park meme?

>I CANT STAY WITH YOU BECUASE I DONTVWANT TO LOSE YOU

Yikes. So this is what is considered good, non animu writing? Its linkin park so it's good? Holy fuck skyfags are a joke I'll stick to Ys.
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>>551203936
Fuck off dipshit, you're the one who brings you shitposting into everything. All I'm doing is stating facts and you're instantly deflecting to skyfags because it's all you know.
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>>551204109
/slitwrist
Joshua was not a good character either. And the only reason he gets protected is because of the crossdressing scene.
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>>551204017
Faggot
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same shitposts and baits every thread...
which you people would just go back to /fg/ with this shit so we could discuss these games honestly
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>>551204109
Because drama. Meanwhile, there's a autistic maid who sticks with her employer despite being part of the snek cult who wants to destroy the world.
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>>551203969
I see posts like this a lot and it really gives the feeling that you've only actually played 1 and 2 or at the very least you've let the negative bias sink in so deep that you can't see how blatantly toned down the wanking is in CS3 and 4. Heck even Estelle and Lloyd get bigged up more than CS3 and 4 Rean does. CS3 and 4 Rean is everyone's emotional punching bag and everyone can't stop reminding him how much of a wishy washy faggot he is.
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>>551203757
Are you ignoring the point on purpose?
If Rean only was Osborne's son and was treated differently because of that then it would've been a fair comparison.
But not only he's the son of the most important person in the world, he's also infused with a super secret op dark power and is better than everyone because of that. That's the biggest difference.
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>>551204184
You still haven't addressed it though so stop deflecting with the "y-you're just shitposting" shit.
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>>551204232
Yes, we need to post the same 20 Altima images again /v/ros
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>>551204017
I genuinely enjoy all of them.
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>>551204449
This but with Tio instead
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>>551204380
Not really no.
How is that any different from say Goku?
He had a super power within him. Nobody says shit about him, Well really you don't fucking dare too because the black weebs would kill you.
Estelle is the nepotism protagonist. I prefer Rean over nepotism.
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shes so cute bros why did they have to ruin her by making her go back to the snakejews
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>>551204581
when did estelle get anything just for being cassius brights daughter
sure it gets brought up in conversation a lot but estelle gets the respect she gets because of her actions not her bloodline and she doesnt get super special powers that make her stronger than everyone else that she holds back until someone gives her a pep talk
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>>551204380
>But not only he's the son of the most important person in the world, he's also infused with a super secret op dark power and is better than everyone because of that.
>Father puts a part of a literal deity into sons chest to save him turning him into a monster making him live most of his adolescent life in fear of hurting those he loves completely shaping his personality to become detached and full of self loathing
>BUT HE GETS SUPER COOL ANIME POWERS
Come on dude, can you not see you're being a bit shallow with your take here?
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>>551204652
Sitill so angry she only gets friend zoned.
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>>551204652
Shes too pure for snek and that's why she defected in CS4. I cant believe they made her go back
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>>551204652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlnVwr3oRdw
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>>551204812
Why do you fucks always hamper on about all the benefits his powers bring yet never even once acknowledge that it's single handily what sets off the entire conflict of CS4. It's hardly a good thing.
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>>551204380
>>551204812
Lets boil it down to what your really nutty about.
You are mad as fuck that Estelle is not the OP protagonist. She was a nobody from the start, it is time you deal with it.
>when did estelle get anything just for being cassius brights daughter
Entry in to the bracers, meetings with the queen, the princess. Meeting the antagonists at all was because of her father. Heck even getting Joshua was because of General Bright.
She was handed everything. Never worked a day in her life.
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>>551204993
Lloyd's a lucky guy.
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>>551204334
Yes they toned down the wanking in CS3
Nigger literally the first part of the game is you assaulting the fortress and the characters stop halfway during all the shit that's going on so they can circlejerk about how fucking great Rean is.
It was reduced because even they knew they fucked up and basically soft reset the school, setting with only 3 students, but the damage was already done long ago and they are stuck with all those useless class vii shits they have no idea what to do with.
Rean is still the center of everything in relation to class vii, to the point that they don't even exist when not observed by Rean.
Remember that shitty reunion scene of everybody standing in a line waiting for Rean to show up only to then proceed and hug everybody and say hello to each other, despite already being there for minutes.
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>>551204581
Goku isn't really any stronger than the average saiyan, he just brings out more strength than others do because he's become oriented towards helping his loved ones instead of fighting for the thrill of battle. It's the purpose that gives him more strength than someone like Vegeta who only fights for himself. Besides that he doesn't have any particularly special talents.

Obviously he shits on humans though.
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>>551204993
I thought she was Lloyd's mom at first
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>>551204652
>Only joined Ouroboros because of her Master and didn't even really give a shit about them
>When she found out about what Ouroboros' real goal was she flipped out and betrayed them and also betrayed her master the only person in the world she looked up to
>her master dies just as she was about to leave ouroboros as her reason for joining was fulfilled and duvalie is present for this revelation
>her master is killed by a man working with ouroboros
and after all this shit she just goes back because ?????????? why? it completely goes against her entire arc in 4 and it just seems like falcom wants to rehash her so they dont have to design another character or something
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>>551205064
nobody wants Estelle to be OP you're retarded, skyfags just want comfy adventures about normal people helping others without super special one wankery
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>>551205064
>You are mad as fuck that Estelle is not the OP protagonist.
Damn, that's so intense projection.
You also lack the agility to read, apparently.
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>>551205187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcWM_1hBu_c
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>>551205103
What? There's plenty of interactions between the other characters in 3 and 4. Outside of the super important story sections they seem to go about their business with each other even more than they interact with Rean. 4 especially has some great moments with class VII new and old interacting on their own, they're some of the funniest and most interesting moments in the game.
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>>551205270
anon, people like estelle because shes a charisma character, she's the shining sun, the glue that pulls the group in sky together. why are you projecting so hard? are you literally brain damaged monkey?
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>>551205256
It is not projection if it is true. I already know exactly what you think you fucking sky parasites.
>>551205403
>anon, people like estelle because shes a charisma character,
We call that Mary Sue with everything handed to her by her daddy.
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>>551204380
>better than everyone
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>>551205187
>and then there's Kevin
Checkmate Skyfag
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>>551205181
>wait do you mean a secret society that tries to fuck over the world is EVIL holy shit how did I not see it before
She is really fucking dumb
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>>551205493
well you got me there anon, this series is evolving, but I was focusing on estelles games and what the appeal is
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>>551205484
>not even all of me
Rean can't compete. McKino alone sets CS above the other two to me. I love him.
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>>551205403
>Estelle
>Charisma
My fucking sides
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>>551205636
>but I was focusing on estelles games and what the appeal is
Nepotism and mary sues?
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>>551205396
Like I said, they are improving, but it's too fucking late.
We spent two fucking games where nobody in class vii interacted with each other, especially girls with other guys, because hurr duur can't take away a potential fake romance interest from Rean.
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>>551205636
I was just shitposting and wanted to bring up my guy Kevin. Ignore the other nigger. I think he's out of his mind.
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I don't hate cold steel. i hate cold steel 1 and 2. 3 and 4 are just 1 and 2 but actually good.
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>>551205480
>>551205708
so you prefer gary stue? got it
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>>551205760
>NOOOOOO YOOIOU CANNNNNN ONT LIKKE CSSSSSSS IT IS BASSFOMMMYYY
Fuck off sky fags it is time we gas you out of the fandom.
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>>551205480
Stop pretending you even played past the prologue, retard.
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>>551205740
Fair enough. I might be biased because I played 1 and 2 first then went back to play every game in the series before finishing 3 and 4 recently so the problems of those games aren't as fresh in my mind.
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Played sky before cold steel and still prefer cold steel.
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>>551155509

Haha, way to play yourself. Queer.
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>>551205187
This I want Joshua to stop being a faggot
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>>551205904
It's ok to have shit taste.
Now go play Crossbell, nigger.
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>>551205860
Oh i sat throug all of the boring shit in FC. At the end i felt that daddys princess need to fuck off back to her room and let the real important characters take over fighting. oh and the "clif hanger" was so fucking forced i thought i was in SAO.
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>>551144410

I’ve only beat the first one and almost done with the second. What happened to Millium?
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>>551206065
Nothing, nobody ever dies anymore.
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>>551205708
Remember, its okay if females are actual mary sues. If a m*le character has anything remotely special about him, accomplishes goals, gets stronger, etc is the biggest sue ever and must be called out.
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>>551206065
she died except not really but she became a ghost that lives in a sword except not really because the bad guy was secretly actually good and he prepared a replacement body to transfer her soul into at the last second just in case the good guys won
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Crossbell > Sky >>>>>>>>>>>>> Harem trash steel
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>>551206065
slipped on a banana peel and cracked her neck
I'm not even joking
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>>551206065
Shes fucking D E A D
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>>551206164
>the audience for trails is women
Wow you figured it out retard.
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Ok I legit can't tell who's who anymore. I think this thread has just gone critical mass and is no longer salvageable. Abandon ship lads.
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>>551200394
Honestly based
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>>551206164
It is true, women get protected so fucking hard. She never trained at all. She never lost fuck all other than her retard love interest.
It is like i stumbled in to the My Immortal of JRPGS when it comes to FC.
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>>551206164
Keep trying, assblasted retard. Not even trying to make it less obvious.
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>>551206164
yes and that's unironically okay
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NISA shills hard at work.
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>>551206318
Not anymore.
Rean is literally every teenager's boy wet dream.
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>>551206386
What? He is opnly applying the stands set against Male character to Estelle. I thought women where equal?
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>>551206362
its just /fg/ faggots shitposting and baiting for yous, don't bother
every time they find a thread it sucks ass
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>>551206164
women can’t pull off chuuni well. Estelle is trash. coomerniggers stay assblasted
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>>551206534
I think it might actually just be the same person false flagging as both sides.
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>>551206505
This but I'm 25 and I already hate myself (just like rean)
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>>551206530
>he
You mean (You).
Like I said, stop trying, retard.
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>>551206009
>SAO
Funny thing is more and more people are now comparing sky to SAO and its hilarious because it is fucking true.
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>>551206664
Nope wrong person retard.
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>>551206628
Take your meds
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>>551164161
Its incredibly shit for Cold Steel at least.
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>>551206683
It is SAO has the same level of writing and character development to Sky.
Everything bad about Kirito apply's to Estelle.
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>>551205103
>Yes they toned down the wanking in CS3
I agree, anon, but they went right back up again in 4, it's like you said, it's too late. Better to hope for better in the new arc I guess.
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>>551206683
We cant let Asun-... I mean Estelle stay with us becuase we are Solo lone wolf bad boi and she might die...
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>>551206935
Joshua even looks like Kirito. Holy shit sky fags on suicide watch. You have to admit to liking SAO to like Sky now hahahahahha
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>>551206825
>>551206683
>>551206935
>>551207067
>SAO
I will fucking remind them.
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>>551206825
Joshua is Kirito you idort stop blindly going along with shit and figure out the connections yourself.
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>estelle is literally naruto with tits
>joshua is sasuke
>ouroboros are just akatsuki
woah... nice game skyfags...
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>>551201889
>start here
Made me chuckle
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>>551206530
You can have a special thing about a protagonist, but the problem is that EVRYTHING is special about Rean, just when you think you've done with one thing, they just keep piling more and more special on him to the point where it becomes way too forced.
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>>551171263
This sounds like a case of "just combine every shounen protag and call it good."
Sounds retarded honestly.
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>trying to bait with SAO
lmao zoomies really are desperate.
You weren't even born when Sky first came out.
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>>551207281
reanposting used to mock what a shitty retarded protagonist rean is
now you have retards who saw the memes and didnt understand they were ironic parroting them
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>>551207240
>You can have a special thing about a protagonist
Where? I all i see is skyfags throwing out shit about Rean that he dares to be more important to the world than Estelle was.
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>>551189648
doesn't help that the areas are village - city - green field - roads with green shit
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>>551201492
Anybody who suggests other than trails in the sky or CS is wrong
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>bracers are just another name for hunters from HxH
Oh no no no no....
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>>551203309
is there an official localization for those games between sky and cold steel?
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>>551205484
>Thread gets OC
Nice
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>>551207421
No we just got sick of you posting them and now have turned it on you. So now Rean is god and you must fuck off skyfags.
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>>551207438
>doesn't help that the areas are village - city - green field - roads with green shit
thats like every single kiseki game except cs2 had one snow area
finally with kiseki 11 we get a desert
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>>551207510
no. Probably never will be
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>>551207510
There isn't, only fan translations. pic related.
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>>551207281
Shut up skyfag you are just upset.
It's good writing and way more interesting that way.
Want to see my Sonic OC?
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>>551207510
No. There are fan translations of varying quality and that's it. The series is too niche for them to localize Zero and Azure because only the diehards would buy it but any modern jrpg loving weeb fag will buy a cold steel game.
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>>551205760
It's cool anon, I can't tell who is genuine or not anymore. At least we both know Kevin is best protag.
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>>551207430
Read the fucking thread
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>>551207878
The thread full of Sky faggots crying about how the truth of the matter is that Estelle is a mary sue protagonist that gets everything handed to her.
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People liked Kevin because he was a compelling character and nobody cared that he had superpowers or not. Rean is a meme because he is a cardboard cutout made from the blended materials of 20 different anime/ln protagonists with nothing really compelling or interesting about his journey.
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Can't wait for the meltdown Reanfags will have when the wave of new Blackfags secondaries arrive and start shilling their own protag.
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>>551208000
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>>551208031
Didn't I already told you to stop trying this hard?
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>>551208097
You got that wrong, the skyfags will have to reverse course and prop up Rean to hate on the new character because
>New=bad
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>>551208148
why are people trying to spread the meme that hes gay
hes obviously the 3rd attempt at a randy rehash after crow and ash
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>>551208196
>NOOOOOOOOO DOONNNT SAAYYYY THJATTTTTTTTT ABOUTT EEEESTTLEE BUUUULLYYY
How about go kill yourself skyfag
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>>551208097
This looks generic as fuck too, but honestly he looks way cooler than Rean without even trying.
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>>551207538
Sounds like you need to take some meds, anon.
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>>551208097
Crossdressing doesn't mean you're gay
https://www.falcom.co.jp/kuro/character/aaron.html
But it's there.
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>>551208320
>not even denying it's (You) again
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>>551208382
What? All we did was make the meme our own. Don't like it. Go to the sky corner with the rest of the cucks.
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>>551208462
No, seriously. Take some meds.
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>>551208440
fuck meant to quote >>551208236
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>>551208440
those animations look so stiff and janky
falcom has made like 100 arpgs so why is the ys the only one that manages to actually be smooth how are they this incompetent
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>>551208518
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONNNTTTTT CAlLL USSS OUTTTT
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>>551208209
Not really.
Nothing and I mean nothing can be worse than CS at this point.
Kuro already has the upper hand simply by it not being high school shit from the start.
If only CS had more of that instead. I mean the chapter in CS3 where you finally leave your shitty students and go do adult shit in the town was the best part of the series till that point.
I just want more of THAT and less of doing slave labor for the school on my free days.
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>>551208728
You do not speak for /fg/. /fg/ backs Rean in the new fight against the new game. Words of god. Keep in line or else. /fg/ have given you a warning.
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>>551208440
i dont see any crossdressing there
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>>551208886
Go back to your containment board, or I'll call you mom to come and get you.
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>>551208910
気まぐれに東方華劇で“女形”の剣舞を演じたり
>女形
google it
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>>551208613
haha... they'll fix it in kuro no kiseki III
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>>551209013
/fg/ considers your threat not an issue.
/fg/ have backed Rean on this issue of new protagonists. We are word of god, follow it or else.
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/fg/? what's that stand for? fucking gay?
go back to your circlejerk you queers
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>>551209152
They'll fix it after they fix the entirely of Japan's outdated, archaic mindset.
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>>551144410
Why can't Falcom just focus on making a single good FF competitor type title and destroy Square instead of making a million low budget games with shart assets expanded over 60 hours of repetitive storyline
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>>551209802
>putting all your eggs in the same basket and kill yourself with a blunder
You'd do well at SEGA
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>>551209802
They are a low budget company nowhere near the level of SE.
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>>551209996
Too bad every Falcom game is 7/10 middling to mediocre garbage, they'd do better if they actually focused on one title every few years
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>>551209802
Dunno, as long as i like the characters i really dont mind tho
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>>551209802
Nu-FF is fucking garbage anything after 9 suck 500 dicks at once
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>>551209802
Falcom cant afford to spend 8 years making a game like Square does. If they dont put something out yearly they probably go under. If they spent even like 4 years making a game and it bombed that would be it for them.
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>There once was a farmer man in war torn country
>He was not important at all
>One day a man kills him
>The end
There you go i made a protagonist without anything special about him.
He died because any power i give him would be considered sue territory. It makes for very boring stories really when you think about it.
No epic fights, nothing worth paying for.
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>>551208619
I don't see you taking your meds, schio-kun.
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So what do you think, anons? Is the new dude using a gunblade? Will we see some Kilika? Is the old party member gonna be Ka Fai?
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>>551210440
Come on anon, being good at something, even farming, is not the same as having in-born anime powers.
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>>551209105
>desert area
Pure kino. Can't wait.
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>>551210512
Which new dude?
new MC is like a stun blade
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>just fought Duvalie and Blueblanc in the Infernal Palace
I'm almost done with CS2, finally!
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>>551210647
Why do people harper on his demon powers so much? He never really uses them and when he does it never even really seems to make a difference.
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>>551210647
>ITS NOT THE SAMEEEEEEE
Yes it is. Any sort of power i give this man needs to be justified remember. I have to establish he follows a known combat art with other adherents in the world(Remind you of 8 leaves?).
He is a boring shell without any connection or special powers or any reason to exist.
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>>551210440
Ebin meme retard, can't even do it right.
If said farmer decided to train in his free time, got involved in world affairs and still managed to pull through despite not having anything special about this then it will be interesting.
You are the problem if you think a super special ability is in any way a substitute for good writing.
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>>551210512
I just want some Richard desu
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>>551210916
NO ONE TELL HIM
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>>551210948
But that's exactly the point. He can't use them because he's just too strong, which is why the holding back meme is literally everywhere. By having super secret powers and then NOT using them because it would make the story boring if he just one shot everything is one of the things that are negative about CS.
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>>551209802
>Wanting cinematic garbage
No thanks. I prefer my visual novels.
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>>551211012
But Rean has all what you said. You see him multiple time train with a sword, be trained by master swordsmen, be in battle against more powerful swordsmen. He earned every drop of his power.
I fucking love you debunking your own arguments against Rean for me ahhaha
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>>551210916
>Just finished saving whats her name at the dragon bridge
Please tell me i'm close to beating cold steel 2. I want to see instructor rean.
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>>551205497
Because they aren't trying to fuck over the world? They're dicks, but they aren't trying to fuck over the world.
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>>551205497
We live in a (secret) society
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>>551211259
Are you hearing yourself? He trained yes, but none of it really mattered because he had this super secret OP power ingrained into him anyway lmao. If they just stopped at the training it would've been fine.
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>>551211227
The only reason Rean doesn't use his powers is because he can't control them and when he does gain control there is lasting consequences of over using it. It's not that he doesn't want to use it, he can't and when he gets to the point where he can use it without too much concern, his enemies are strong enough that it he can't easily win even with them so again, it's a non issue that people unfairly harp on. The holding back meme comes from the villains, not Rean. Rean holds back like twice in all 4 of his games.
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>>551209996
Holy shit that is adorable.
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>>551211408
>send multiple counties into complete chaos
>not fucking it up
Grandmaster, please.
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>>551211589
>NOOOOOO YOU ARE NOTT ALWOED TO GET MORE POWERFUL THAN YOUR BASE LINE
I don not think Shonen anime is for you pal. Shit if you saw DBZ you would foam at the mouth.
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>>551211589
Have you ever seen Rean win a single, A SINGLE fucking fight because of his powers. Cause I can't remember one.
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>>551211697
There are other games for that.
The whole point of trails was that it had non of that shit until it got tainted with your typical 2010+ high school anime bullshit.
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>>551211769
He will have to invent one. Not one time did he ever use ogre power to win a fight. All it did was allow a draw at most.
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>>551211851
>The whole point of trails was that it had non of that shit
The first 2 games are fucking SAO you retard. It was there all along.
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>>551211623
you mean cute and canon!
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>>551211854
And there would literally be now difference if he didn't have the power and still drew.
They are artificially holding back his development because they have a set number of games to go through.
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>>551210882
Yeah, new MC man, his sword got a trigger on it, just got me wondering is all.
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>>551211034
Based
by far one of the best characters in the trails series
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>>551211034
If hes not in i will riot
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>551211961
Fuck off retard, your bait is not even worth a (You).
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>>551211769
He used them to get past whats her name and blueblank and he beat back crow with it before it fizzled out.
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>>551210962
If you wanna say farmers are demons, you do you anon. Bit capitalist of you, but still.
>>551211618
Wait, doesn't Rean become a Divine Blade? Pretty sure he's a power creeper even without Devil Trigger mode, it's pretty weird.
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>>551211851
>it got tainted with your typical 2010+ high school anime bullshit.
Remember that time when Estelle and Joshua did a play at the behest of the student body president.
>Not anime shit he says
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>>551212154
He also beat Aurelia
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>>551211851
This is exactly what people keep saying. You literally don't like it because it's different. You genuinely do want for them to keep doing the exact same thing for literal decades. That's not how shit works. They needed to change up the formula and you either adapt to it and learn to love them both new and old for their own merits or you fuck off and keep the fond memories of Sky and Crossbell that you have and don't come complaining in every thread.
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>>551212195
None sequitur about capitalism but okay whatever.
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>>551212206
Was the game based around the academy? No.
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>>551212312
It's like you don't respect the soil, anon, leave the poor farmers alone, they've been through enough. Two wars at this point, if we count the current Erebonian farmers. What you got against the little man?
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>>551212276
No, they need to keep doing good games which at this point, they don't.
We already saw enough game franchises "change the formula" into absolute trash.
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>>551212340
Still counts mother fucker. You cannot pick and choose here. Sky was just as anime as CS. You just don'tr want to admit it.
Also remember the time when they visited a hot spring and had anime tropes then?
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>>551212154
Ok yeah that's like literally the only moment where it's treated like something cool and that's only because it's the start of where he tries to stop being afraid of his powers and learn to both accept them as a part of him and control them and the moment is much more about his self discipline than it is the powers themselves. It's part of his character arc. I actually kind of like how they tie Rean's demon form with his insecurities where his control of them grows with his confidence. They're a literal manifestation of his inner demons.
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>>551212503
Yes, it's 90-00s anime, not 2010 anime.
Guess which is better.
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The anime better do the big titty girls justice.
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>>551212604
Get fucked. You lose. hahahaa
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>>551212652
>no argument
I accept your concession.
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>>551212195
>Wait, doesn't Rean become a Divine Blade? Pretty sure he's a power creeper even without Devil Trigger mode, it's pretty weird.
Divine Blade is a weird title where it's kind of vague what it even means and isn't really singularly about personal strength. Rean grows stronger through the games sure but he's still only really about as strong or maybe just a little bit stronger than say Laura without his powers. It's not like he's at the peak just yet.
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>>551212582
lmao that damage control
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>>551212825
Doesn't change the point though but sure, have your "gottem".
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>>551212709
Not really
You just conceded the point that sky was anime. So i am just happy with a win here.
Debating over generational differences in anime is irrelevant to the topic and a defection for a lost argument.
So get fucked.
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>>551212804
I suppose that makes sense. Wonder if Ka Fai has rusted with age, jrpg rules would say no.
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>>551212889
No I just found it extremely hilarious how you tried to spin some sort of deep story and meaning into this.
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I EXIST
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>>551213027
It's literally his whole character arc dumbass. Not my fault you don't know how to pay attention to shit blatantly shoved in your face.
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>>551213108
Yes, we all know what this extremely generic thing is and have seen it a billion times before that.
You make the impression like you haven't.
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>>551213242
> we all know what this extremely generic thing is and have seen it a billion times before that.
But you want more Estelle?
I hgave seen that exact female character 10000000000000000s of times. We are only up to 100 of Rean's. So in the interest of fairness, he gets a pass.
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>>551213242
Retard that probably hasn't actually finished the game. It's the first time Rean shows some sign of genuine confidence and poise which makes it all the more effective when he gets completely emotionally annihilated at the end of the game and loses all his confidence and control of his powers all building to the pure kino that is the CS3 ending.
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>>551213242
No he just had to explain it because the posters in this thread don't seem to understand it.
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>>551213482
I feel like you might possible be shitposting but you're actually right, Rean is probably the most original protagonist if you don't count Kevin.
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>>551213594
Original how?
Hidden OP power is literally the most common anime trope there is.
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>>551213242
>here's the reason why this moment actually works well and isn't as bad as how you make it out to be
>huh you're just pretending it's deep
>no it's literal surface level shit that isn't that hard to pick up on
>w-well it's not original I've seen it a million times before
Is this damage control I see?
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>>551212946
All i know is that his letter to Rean was a bit ominous.
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>>551159864
UUOOOGGGHHHH
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>>551213798
Do you not know the meaning of the word "character"? What does his power have to do with his personality?
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>>551213907
What personality?
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Rean is literally the voice of the post-post-modernist male generation. You faggots unironically do not understand him.
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>>551214010
>Rean isn't a loud obnoxious mouth breather like Estelle so that means he has no personality
Rean's stoic and reserved, doesn't mean he doesn't have personality.
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>>551214173
Real is a literal fucking doormat who will bend himself for everyone else's sake and has absolutely 0 motivations that are his own other than muh Crow muh precious gems.
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>>551214173
Rean being stoic and reserved is one of the reasons why i appreciate Towa.
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>>551214501
Towa is shit though.
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>>551214381
Again you don't seem to know what character or even personality means. What the ever loving fuck does his motivation have to do with his personality? Stop moving the goal posts and answer me or admit that I'm right.

>>551214501
Based, I love how Towa is one of the few people who coddles Rean when he tries to act like the more responsible one when he interacts with other people.

>>551214551
Fuck you



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